Thread 725497564

Kirby Air Riders thread! How'd you guys enjoy the Global Test Ride this past weekend? The next one will be this Saturday. Post your mains/vehicle combos.

I really don't like the racing

>>725497564 (OP)
meta knight is my favorite so far. i like how his stats are balanced, top speed is the only weakness but flight speed makes up for it
also fun special
i am already suffering from withdrawal and wishing i could play more

>>725498220
Metal knight bro here too

Am i right in thinking this is more of a vehicle combat game than a straight forward racer? Either way im really liking it, but i wish you could only swap machines by hitting forward and Y so theres no overlap between it and using a special.

Will next weekend just be city trial again ?

>>725497564 (OP)
The closest I got to winning City Trial was with Scarfy on the battle chariot.
I think I will main Marx when the game comes out for real.

>>725498386
probably, but it might have different variants for the minigames or something

>>725497564 (OP)
>loved susie's stat spread
>hated her special
Really hope they improve it for the next test or before it releases, or maybe I'm just using it wrong. inb4 cock sucking jokes

>>725498363
combat is kinda pointless in air ride / top ride because there's no health bar in those, their only consistent purpose is building up special

>>725498557
there can be health if you set the option for it

>>725498557
I think its a setting you can turn on, i hope its turn on online because that makes it more tense and violent.

>>725498220
I don't get why they didn't add Galacta or Morpho given it would be easy asset reuse and just overall pretty cool

>>725498686
Especially for dark meta knight, hes literally already modeled just give him different stats and super. Still holding out for morpho in the main game though.

>>725498653
>>725498661
well yeah but it's not the default, and most likely won't be the case for ranked online play

>>725498686
too similar to meta knight probably

>>725498786
>No murder in the ranked sweat mode
I'd be pissed, at least you can do it in city trial.

>>725498885
allowing murder opens up too many problems
the roads are too narrow to reasonably avoid projectiles and specials, which means you're inevitably gonna get smacked around
this would make low health characters a complete non-option compared to heavyweights or midweights

>>725499012
I think theres already a problem with character and kart combos in regular air ride mode anyway with or without health, like whats knuckle joe supposed to do in a game without health bars?

>>725499149
yes some characters are definitely balanced with city trial in mind, chef kawasaki has no reason to be used, there is no food in air ride nor is there a reason to be hitting people with his special

>>725499149
Yeah I really couldn’t think of any reason not to pick a character whose special gives some kind of ground or air speed boost.

>>725499453
>tfw both your most anticipated characters throw shit instead of simply going faster

>>725499635
Taranza’s special seemed like a pretty decent one for racing in the direct but can’t really judge until I play him.
Ones like Kawasaki and Waddle Doo are just cucked.

Respect Susie players!

>>725499635
Taranza's ability actually looked like the most interesting to me. Whether or not it'll actually be good is another story though.

>>725499816
the good thing about those is that they last freaking forever, might be good to screw people up in a section with a lot of turns

>>725499816
I haven't played any of the throw shit characters in the demo but i hope these are at least good for killing things
>>725499865
If it has some niche that it can go crazy it ill be happy because i can tunnel vision going for it like a dumbass.

Is regular racing going to be dead? I'm as hyped for city trials like everyone else, but I hope the other racing modes can be alive too.

>>725500103
It'll be City trial only just like the orginal

>>725500103
Air Ride will be probably be a comfort zone for players who can't get used to the chaos of City Trial. Top Ride might not survive though.

>>725500103
depends on how balanced it is probably

>>725500103
Unless there's a hard mode that makes the game faster, or some of the currently locked characters have some cool tech, I can't imagine race being very popular.
It's pretty barebones compared to Mario, Crash, and Sonic.
Air Riders' appeal is being one of the few kart racers with an actually good battle mode, so that's the main reason to play it.

Big fan of the Doo.
His special fucking annihilates the pillar and wheelie events. Never got a chance to try it on Kracko.
Also Magolor's special is quite fun on the portal rush event. Lots of random pings on people also flying through behind me. And flying in a straight line through a bunch of portals and blasting people without mercy seems very in character.

>>725500709
This is the impression I get.
Hate to say it but the race mode seems kinda boring desu.

>>725500781
My impressions of Air Ride was that it was a strange mix of being hectic and slow. There's a lot going on and the handling can be demanding, but it never felt that fast. Like racing actual bumper cars. It didn't help that the AI was functionally retarded and I couldn't tell how chaotic races could be, nor how badly I sucked because the other riders were always worse.

I didn't care for MK World and was hoping for an alternative. Hopefully there's more in the full game.

>>725497564 (OP)
God I'm having withdrawal already. Can't wait to play as this little shit once the full game releases

>>725501852
part of what will make air ride is all kf the contestants being neck and neck
draft doesn't really work with how the demo had it, because cpus sucked such ass

>>725498220
>added way too many fucking powerups
>a million stat boosts everywhere so they aren't meaningful to grab and they definitely decreased their potency
probably my biggest fear about this game. Seems like a clusterfuck. Don't own a Switch 2 so didn't play the demo

>>725503515
nope they're definitely plenty potent still, past 10-13 top speed i can barely control my vehicle
also that's a rare exception, on the average game you get like 60-90 powerups total

Late to this, but whoever made >>725440484, you're great.

>>725499847
Shut up and suck my dick

>>725499847
susie mains owe me sex

>>725500292
I haven’t gotten to play the new game yet but in the original Top Ride was secretly the best mode

Susie's body would look like this IRL and you find her hot?
What the fuck is wrong with you?

What are some "meta" events that will happen in city trial? My thinking is like in gta, people will do car meets, players will go to the underground areas to do some tokyo drift shit and show off rides. I personally did something like that in the original game with my friends.

>>725497564 (OP)
It started out slow and made me reconsider my preorder but then when I started learning the game more and playing more matches it became better with me keeping the pre order if only for Sakurai and his passion project. I'm now slightly at the stage where I am excited for what will be in the main game but nervous about how the online will be within the following weeks. Don't have a main vehicle but my mains right now is in this order: GyroidCappy, Rick and Metaknight so far.

>>725504243
>pick this up with rick’s special
>able to go from one end of the map to the other in less than a second
Fucking love this rodent, you have no idea

What was his fucking problem?

>>725506691
Either a hologram / simulation inside Nova or Zero's core holding on to what little power it has left after being stranded for 25 years after K64.

Call it.

>>725506331
If I ever buy a pet it'll be a hamster and I'll call him Rick.

>>725506890
Calling hologram, since you can hear beeping noises in the direct

We accept Rick as our new God.

>>725502810
I felt that way and I hope you're right. Of lvl3 reflects the other difficulties, the CPU needs some serious rubber-banding to make drafting and using hazards/powers feasible, otherwise it's like doing a time trial at 50cc.

Maybe whatever story mode is going to be will scratch that itch, at least.

>>725506691
He's like a Zero that has ascended past a Zero. Or, you could just call him a Zero 2.

>working on checklists for the original air ride
>get everything of immediate importance unlocked
>all colors, all machines, legendaries in CT free run, etc, even CT's ending
>didn't even use purple checks
>in essence get to the point at which i envied my other classmates for getting to when i was younger
it doesn't feel as special as it should

>>725503515
I feel they set the game tempo a bit too high in fear of boring players if it was less quick paced.

In the original Air Ride, you can break a Blue box and there are decent odds you only find 1 power up or just negative ones inside. In Air Riders its like a constant fucking stream of power ups and you rarely ever see negative boosts now.

>>725509068
I kinda wonder if they cranked it up for the demo weekend

>>725498885
I wish I could just be a waddle dee. I don't want to play as bandana dee.

>>725503903
suck your own goddamn dick

>>725509068
I felt similarly at first, but after getting used to it, I really like the faster pace. Sometimes there would be rounds in the original where the events were inconsequential and you didn’t interact much with anyone. This errs in the other direction, but too much chaos is still fun to try to ride out. And I think as more people get used to the game, it’ll be more controlled chaos. Towards the end, I felt like I was being a real opportunist about events and headhunting and such. Was very satisfying

is this gonna be one of those where i don't pick it up at release it's dead in the water by the time I get into it 3 months down the line

also how is my boy waddle doo

>>725508297
he gained a couple of polygons, so what?

Anyone get higher than this for stats?

>>725510523
Hehehe... just wait!

>>725510441
He's mostly just okay, but his special DESTROYS bosses/pillars/anything that can't move away

>>725510441
It’s my ideal online game
>5 minute match time
>16 player FFA is just right
>fast and fun
>enough skill needed to feel yourself improve
>enough luck needed to keep things interesting
These threads have enough traction to make me think I’m not the only autist who’s playing this a lot

>>725510441
I’m sure the game will do fine retaining players with its niche but down the line I can see it falling off, especially given there won’t be any updates to keep people around. Probably won’t have to worry about it dying for at least a year or two

I kinda see why Sakurai said the ranking system in this game is weird. I mean, it is theoretically possible to rank up purely based on TOTAL VICTORIES if you have insane luck + insane foresight. Just seems like a fun game for everyone to fuck around in while also rewarding vehicle mastery. For city trial, anyway. Air Ride and Top Ride will be skillful, I think.

>>725511434
*purely skillful, I mean. City Trial has skill too though it's more wacky. Air Ride mode even looks like a front-running racer.

Don't listen to anyone ITT who says Air Ride mode is boring/slow: they're just bad at the game. The skill-ceiling is higher than you'd think, and your ability to reach it depends on how well you are at accumulating speed boosts from attacking enemies/rivals, utilizing the unique machine mechanics, performing perfect landings, and optimizing your lines. If you think the racing is "slow," it's because you're not doing enough to make it seem fast: the game gives back what you put into it.

>>725510619
lmao

>>725510619
kek

>>725511048
He’s great at Kirby Melee too

>>725511603
It is boring and slow against the CPUs. I hope they add air ride online to the next test drive.

Were there any other random elements in the city trial map aside from the floating island?

>>725510619
fucking kek

>>725512514
ufo

>>725497564 (OP)
It was good but I wish the game had normal controls, where every action is mapped to a different button. Especially the attack button. It feels so bad to flick it instead of just pressing a button with a two second cooldown.

Why is this game not resonating much with gen Z / gen alpha gamers? I would've thought such a fast-paced game would appeal to their sensibilities but most of the enthusiasm seems to be coming from older fans.

>>725510441
People are still playing Kid Icarus Uprising online. This game will sell way better and it's on a system that will have an even higher install base by the end (likely).

>>725512956
Honestly the Kirby brand might not be doing it favors in that regard.

>>725512956
I actually see a lot of gen z adopting this. The most vocal criticisms are coming from millennials who missed the first one in their youth.

>>725512956
zoomer here. in short, the dopamine that zoomers need comes from abilities or events that come in bursts. this creates a receding tide and then a crashing wave in the game flow so to speak. Sounds abstract but I am not joking when I say that overwatch Fortnite marvel rivals etc all these big fast paced games, are successful because they understand the incredibly hard tightrope you have to walk
Air riders has a good idea with specials however most characters they are speed or utility , if you dont get a big KO reward then theres no friction to pull back from

>>725513201
you'd think people would be down for a non "baby game" kirby game

>>725512956
Gen Z are very strongly influenced by pressure. Fortnite made Epic billions because it tapped into playground bullying and shame culture, which is genius and disgusting in equal measure.
Kirby isn't in and it's seen as kiddie shit, and it is, so yeah.

>>725512956
>why is a sequel to a niche gamecube title resonating to people who grew up playing the gamecube
real fuckin tough question there. kids have miku in sonic and fortnite to be playing.

>>725512956
i'm a zoomzoom and I love this game though. So far It's been fatass redditors complaining cuz they can't accept they can't git gud at the game

>>725510669
a friend of mine

>>725514473
Sorry, can't stop playing Susie.
Having good top speed and battle stats while also not sacrificing gliding just seems too good to me.

Which characters were total duds and why was it Bandana Waddle Dee and Knuckle Joe?

>>725514473
I play Scarfy and been pulling consistent wins on Battle Chariot or Rex Wheelie that lil dude is a fucking monster im glad nobody plays him more

>>725516073
I didn't use them during the test. What's wrong with them?

>>725516073
bandana dee isn't that bad, he's your standard "smack stuff in front of me" type that focuses on boost / charge
and i dunno what you're smoking, knuckle joe is incredible, his high offense stat and devastating autoattack makes bullying people easy

>>725516242
whats his trait again? he speeds up when he gets hit?

>>725516742
yeah and upon hit he turns into his monster form and does more damage

>>725516356
Knuckle joe’s special is slow and isn’t good at KOing. He’a outclassed by metaknight in effective KO power because of it

>>725517104
you get like 1 special per 1-2 minutes why tf are you factoring it into overall kill power

>>725517076
that sounds pretty damn strong
>hit something
>speed up
>get hit
>speed up
scarfyfags hiding their power level?

>>725517163
Because you’ll get one during a Derby stadium and net a disproportionate amount of kills when used properly, which is when they matter

Why was the Sonic crossworlds thread deleted?

>>725517471
>>725511412

>>725517465
meta knight's special lasts about 15 seconds and is melee range, the odds of that getting a significant number of kills is slim. even in situations where i've had insane stats and 3 people in close range it gets 1 kill on a good day. it's no better than joe's as far as kill power is concerned, all melee-range specials are inconsistent at best for killing

>>725516073
but Knuckle Joe is great

>>725517654
Skill issue, drive better

>>725517867
your opponents are the ones with a skill issue if you're getting kills with that shit, literally just drive away and he can't catch you

>>725517928
It’s a derby, where are they going to run? Use your brain and cut them off when they hit a the edge of the map after .2 seconds of driving

talk about a game growing on me, a couple days ago i didnt like the racing or city trial now i like both, didnt understand you need to kinda chain enemies during a race for the speed boosts and city trial just got addicting

does anyone know if online has 2P splitscreen in the full game? I swear I feel like I saw a picture of it in directs but idk, I'm really hoping its there.

>>725518148
it's not like you can trap them in a corner, the maps are a fucking circle, there's always somewhere they can go

Kirby games are fun but they have NEVER been worth the full game price tag they often have nowadays.

>>725518649
You don’t need to trap them in a corner, you force them to have to change direction because they are hitting a wall, and then you travel to where they will be. I really can’t dumb it down any more than that, it’s incredibly self evident

>>725519050
your opponents are driving into the fucking wall and I'M the dumb one here?

>>725519115
“Hitting” as in coming up to a wall. It’s hard to understand how dense you are. How you can’t intercept people when they’re confined to a small circle is crazy. His speed and maneuverability is far more than sufficient

>>725498557
Combat speeds you up.

>>725519384
right and i'm sure you have some clips of this majestic wall herding technique you've apparently mastered, yes? you wouldn't just be talking out of your ass about hypothetical maneuvers?
also i don't know why you're acting like his special as a 1 shot kill, it usually takes 2-3 hits to kill one person with it

>>725519574
No, I don’t tend to record my gameplay to later explain rudimentary concepts to morons. I didn’t, multiple hits aren’t hard to get. Why are you acting as though this whole thing is a 1v1 duel where your opponent sees you use your special and goes into evasion mode? Everyone is trying to kill everyone. They’ll break apart and cluster and damage each other, and you can get multiple kills by timing an approach when they’re weakened and clumped together. It’s like you’ve never played the fucking game, I swear

>>725519886
>it's easy to get kills with, all you need to do is predict their movement, hope they're too distracted to avoid you, and somehow repeat this process 1-2 more times without them taking notice of your existence! also i have no evidence to substantiate my claims of how easy this all is oopsies
okay then
>timing an approach when they’re weakened
if they're already weakened any special in the game is going to finish them off just fine, retard

>>725498386
I'm betting on everything being the same, but would be neat if they had a different selection of characters/machines available this time around

>Playing Yellow Kirby/Keeby
>Hope for Kirby Melee
>Throw Special (Crash) in the middle of the stage
It's that easy

>>725520178
>”knuckle joe’s auto attack is devastating and makes bullying people easy”
>b-but auto attacks are actually impossible to use cause driving into someone is unfathomable, even when there are 7 other people driving in a small arena!
you’re so fucking retarded it’s crazy lmao

>>725520570
>gives up on his inane claims and digs further back in the conversation for some semblance of a foothold
lmao
the difference is that knuckle joe's autoattack isn't limited to a 15 second window where people can easily see they should avoid you

>>725520564
Crash being a projectile is wild, I did not expect it the first time I used it, but I was quite pleased.

>>725520726
Metaknight has an autoattck the whole time too, retard. And supposedly it’s incredibly easy to avoid auto attacks and everyone will focus on doing it, yet will ignore joe’s and willingly be hit? And bo, most other specials don’t do a big enough chunk in one go or have much more precise aim, so you won’t get the kill on a weakened opponent before someone else does in the chaos. I just went back to point out your own retarded contradiction cause I know you’ll never stop crying about needing video evidence of something obvious from a game that is currently unplayable, as of it’s a gotcha, you transparently desperate idiot lol

>>725517471
maybe because you guys can't stop talking about Miku instead of the game.

>>725521140
>Metaknight has an autoattck the whole time too, retard
and half the offense stat
>supposedly it’s incredibly easy to avoid auto attacks and everyone will focus on doing it
they can't avoid melee contact for the entire match unless they plan to get 0 kills
>most other specials don’t do a big enough chunk in one go or have much more precise aim
sounds like a skill issue on your part
>nooo stop expecting people to substantiate their claims
no

Kirby Chads win again

Was it just me or do copy ability not feels has good to use?

you lads going physical or digital? think it's the latter for me since im gonna be playing online all the time, ]and next month mp4 is coming out too so yeah

>>725521835
just you, i enjoyed all of them except maybe freeze / spike, their ranges felt neutered

>>725521392
>guy who finds it impossible to intercept anyone over the course of 15 seconds is claiming I have the skill issue
lmao, cope however you like I guess. Pretending smaller hitboxes or lower damage specials are superior is an odd way to do it, but be my guest. Ans while you’re at it, show me a clip of your incompetence at using the metaknoght special in a derby to substantiate your claims of it being impossible to hit people, since you obviously must have it at the ready!

>>725521835
Which in particular? They all felt good to me, with fire and wheelie feeling a lot better in this game

>>725522564
my god you really are retarded, this is like claiming pigs can fly and telling your opposition "show me video evidence that they cannot fly!"
then when they show the video you just claim it's a problem of their pigs being inferior
speaking of which, your pig of a mother should have swallowed

>>725521949
I've heavily moved to digital these days with some exceptions, but considering Sakurai said "Make sure to download the day 1 update to get a lot of the things talked about in todays Direct", physical copy sounding pretty useless

>>725521835
Half the Copy Abilities were mostly useless in Air Ride too. Plasma was the only one that returned and got nerfed hard, and it was also the best one back then for killing people.

Fire and Wheel are way better in this game.

Disappointed they got rid of Tornado though (while keeping both Needle and Freeze), and Sword no longer does auto-attacks during Quick Spin. Also I kinda hate the visual for Needle, now its just these astral projections of energy needles, or something, instead of actually extending the needles from the hat

>>725522628
I like how now when you spin with the fire ability you do the fire dash attack that boosts you forward

>>725521949
I just go digital for the convenience of not having to swap carts around, with Smash Bros as my only physical game in the system.

Having a box would be nice I guess, but not worth the other inconveniences.

>>725521949
Physical, I like the little box they come with. Wish games still had manuals

>>725522736
>tying your shoes is impossible
>okay, show me a video of you failing to do it
>REEEEEEE
This was all so worth it for this little meltdown over the suggestion that you show your dogshit gameplay lmao

>>725522998
one cannot prove a negative, the burden of proof is on you for making ridiculous claims about meta knight's apparent killing machine capabilities
also idk what meltdown you're projecting onto me, i'm chillin, playing two games and listening to a podcast

>>725512956
i'm sure with the buffoonery in the city along with the dicking around in the paddock that this game is very highly likely to find its marks

>>725522787
>its just these astral projections of energy needles, or something, instead of actually extending the needles from the hat
i think its a kind of happy medium between needle in the mainline and how it was portrayed as a ranged ability in the anime
besides, animating only like 12 or so needles extending from the hat on EVERY CHARACTER would be a bit too much to swing

I wanna play again so bad

>>725497564 (OP)
>>725498220
why do shitch 2 games look so washed out?

>>725526028
we all do anon, we all do
5 more days until we're back with funny hats

>>725527332
We get the hats next round?

>>725527432

people who digitally preordered will get a hat during the next playtest

it wasnt in the last one before nintendo only actually charges for eshop preorders 1 week in advance.

>>725523160
Holy fuck, I think this guy you're replying to is the Meta Knightfag from a thread ago claiming he was "umm acksually not bad if you farm crystals and boxes with his auto".

This game really showed the true colors of Meta Knight mains. Even in the face of overwhelming odds they will still die on their hill. It's fascinating to watch.

No in so not playing.

>>725532269
ok nigger

>>725521949
Physical, I always go physical unless it's a digital only game or I'm getting it well after release on steep discount.

>>725512956
Maybe because it's on a brand new ultra expensive portable, and is also really expensive itself. Hopefully it has a long sale window and good word of mouth, I doubt it does more than a million copies this year.

>>725510619
i cant breathe

>>725532269
What we saw in the last direct isn't the final roster right? the wording used made me think he's saving the rest for "surprise", could be wrong though

>>725517471
They keep making them back to back instead of saving threads for festivals so mods are starting to send them to /vg/

>>725500103
I'm worried about Top Ride. They made the maps like four times the original size. It's supposed to be compact and messy
The direct opposite to what they did with city trial.
Being able to use normal machines is cool but this will make it even more competetive.
At least it should be a viable stadium now

>>725510441
not dead, just loaded with metafags, so yes. Happened to F-zero 99

>>725497564 (OP)
None of the characters have voices, huh?

Fuck it I preordered it digital

>>725535115
>Happened to F-zero 99
If only metafags are playing it, then why is it easier to get wins than it is with full rooms?

>>725521949
Is it a key card game? If not, I’m getting physical

>>725538980
no nintendo ip games are key cards

>>725521949
Physical always. World I'll get secondhand at some point.

I play as Susie because I love sucking cock

>>725538832
A lot of the actual players fucked off to private lobbies and 9:59 lobbies, the reason you are winning is because you are going against mostly bots.

>>725540249
I want Susie to laugh at mine

>there's already tournaments out before the game's release
https://youtu.be/ootQzBB1K28?si=wZJ0UBNnr2Cz0Qkd

>>725512956
Zoomers are getting old, they settle for turn based gacha now

>>725538832
at this point not even metafags are playing it anymore. It was like 2-3 weeks after release when try hard managed to play the game near optimal. You can find youtube videos about it

>>725541283
>Smash india

Will this game have local split-screen multiplayer?
I don't play online.

>>725542691
Of course

>>725542817
Good, was that confirmed in the directs?
You'd be amazed how many racing games don't have split-screen.

>>725542881
It was. For local two player matches, you get the choice of horizontal or vertical screens.

>>725542993
Sounds great, thanks for the help anon.

And here I am waiting for any confirmation of online co-op