Thread 725508485

Had potential
Ruined by a fucking gimmick meta story

mantis OP

>>725508485 (OP)
once the graphics changed i uninstalled

>start to get into it
>game changes
I don't remember if I played past that point. I think I looked up lets players and they too gave up at the same point.

It was probably not going to be very good if it continued. The game wasn't exactly challenging as the point was it's a story the dev wanted you (or an absent minded streamer/reviewer) to get through.

>1k players right now and has been since release
wtf, how? Do some people just die in front of their PCs and no-one notices? There is no reason to pick this up after release.

>>725510115
they added a mod that expands on the good part of the game

>>725508485 (OP)
i actually very much liked a CCG setup of act 2, since there are gorillions of deckbuilders already
but even then it's potential squandered, there are like 8 screens, and like 2 optional things

>okay but what if hitler!!!
I don't know how you shit the bed that hard but they managed

>>725510115
After you beat the game in full, you get a Roguelike mode version of the part everyone likes.

>>725508485 (OP)
How much harder would it have been to add maybe 1 or 2 more escape room segments instead of wasting resources on the 16bit segments and arg?

>game shifts gears right around the point you've figured out how to completely bend the mechanics into pretzels
>does it again
Act 3 is a little dull but I'll defend Act 2. I honestly just wish there was more of it.

Is pony island 2 gonna be any good? At first from the trailer I thought it was going to be a first person puzzle game and was getting hyped. Then the arcade machine. Then the youtuber. Pretty skeptical.

>get famous making a game that seems normal then becomes weird meta horror shit about playing a video game inside the game
>make a second game that does the same thing
>make a third game that does the same thing
>people get shocked at the exact same plot twist you've already done twice

>>725513905
The first 2 games were forgettable/weak without the twist. Arguments can be made about the Hex overall, but I don't really care at the moment.
Inscryption, or more specifically Sacrifices Must be Made, got people's attention real fast and stood strong on its own as a Roguelite Deckbuilder with a strict theoretical endpoint, cause it's narrative driven rather than RNG driven.
So people expected him to do something different.
Overall, I still think Inscryption is good, it just could've been way, way better.

>>725513905
I'm serious, the meta story is fucking hitler.
That hitler.

I like all the other chapters more than the first one. There I said it.
I want 8bit roguelike fuck you.

>>725513905
I sometimes wonder if it's just new blood coming in that doesn't know about the old stuff
And youtubers obviously can't pretend they have an opinion beyond reacting

>>725508963
Being able to give cards specific abilities is OP as hell. Mantis + strengthening skills is OP, putting perma-sacrifice on Weasel is OP, basically any 2/3 blood creature that you can drop early and evolve is OP

I never understood people's problems with Act 3 because I guess i had perfect rng on my first time through and never hit any retarded board setups or gotten bad cards. Second time i went through, i got stuck on the bridge battle for an hour because of those exact reasons with no leeway, and finally got why everyone talks so much shit.

I'm still astounded I beat Leshy calling in the moon because I had that one instant kill card on the table and thought it was a joke boss because it died in one hit and his reaction was priceless.

>>725513312
Yeah, Act 2 is too damn short for the potential it has. Magic deck sucked total ass in that format though. Sucked dick as a starter.

Leshy had the best game and it's not even close

>>725519156
For a unity asset flip act 1 was engrossing as fuck.

>>725519156
To be fair, none of the others got to realize their potential over literal decades of refinement like he did.
And Stoat could never because he never intended to.

>>725516109
It's cards that were in his pocket actually.

>>725520638
I'm just tired of everything being fucking hitler.
Literally the satan of an atheist society.

>>725519156
You work so hard to ruin him only to realize he was right all along, the original game sucks and the ones from the other scrybes were even worse. Leshy just wanted YOU to have a good time, and he wasn't actually trapping players in cards or anything, that was all just flavor in the game he made up.

>>725520835
The fuck was the wall of photos and the camera then?

>>725520780
Yeah, it's a liberal shock value thing, it could have been Otto Rahn or Karl Wiligut to actually connect to the world of occult weirdos in the Nazi regime.

I love META stories. Even Pony Island was also good, which is why I played this when I heard the game was by the same developers.

>>725520982
Flavor. He wasn't trapping anyone (other than the other intelligent AIs in the game) because you clearly see Carder is fine and just keeps coming back to play the game again. Kaycee acknowledged his work as quality, too.

>>725520997
>Thule society? What?
>No, hitler did everything!
Popular understanding of history is depressing and I blame schools

>>725521345
WW2 is the foundation myth of the modern world order, which does effectively make hitler the devil, but occult shit and the party higher ups are not really relevant to get a grasp, such details for nerds and commies and nazis to get into
italian irredentism on the other hand...

>>725510115
Act 2 is the most challenging the game gets

>>725513905
I didn't know that it was a game from the Pony Island guy. Still, I love meta bullshit and games changing genres, so I was quite happy with Inscryption.

I want to talk about Kaycee's mod.

I can only reliably (25%) beat max-challenges with Goat-Mole-Moose. Basically get rid of the mole and guarantee the goat on the draw and stack power on the moose or any other 3-blood card and get scissors or knife to get past the first boss of Grizzlies and then it's a cakewalk.

I don't understand how people say Mantis God is the best. If you fail to campfire a ringworm you are fucked and then you're still stuck with a rather shitty Mantis that in some cases can't beat most basic fights. I get it, once you nail all the RNG bullshit you can have an unstoppable Mantis God but it never happens.

And fuck the other setups I have no idea how the fuck you're expected to beat Grizzlies with any of them.

>>725508485 (OP)
retarded meta ARG storylines have no place in video games

>>725512573
>>725516109
>>725525372
>muh meta ARG
that stuff is a completely optional intentionally obscure ARG that has nothing to do with the understanding of the game's themes or the game itself
the only way you personally know this is even a thing is because you looked it up
as >>725519156 >>725520835 explain, inscryption the real life game, is partly a meta commentary on TCGs like MTG, using an in-universe game (inscryption) to tell its story. part of that story being competitive players ruin it for everyone

>>725525408
>the only way you personally know this is even a thing is because you looked it up
I know it was a thing because the game would cut to fucking live action meta segments about the game being some mystery ARG shit

>play demo
>literally NOTHING in the store page, trailer, or screenshots to suggest it would change
>buy game expecting more of the demo
>game turns into a shitty topdown pokemon pixel art game
>leave negative review
>"UMMM YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU BOUGHT THE DEVS OTHER SHITTY GAMES!"

I feel the same about Who's Lila. So much potential intrigue and mystery thrown away for a cheap metaphor.

>>725525408
>does not mention the youtuber segments

>>725525830
>Who's Lila?
>"ermm Lila exists because you wonder who Lila is"
>"oh shes a thoughtform, so if i magine her as a giant breasted Toriel she'll change?"
>uhh no
she's shit then, also weird tranny themes

>>725525562
>>725525978
you did NOT follow all the codes and shit and learn anything about hitler because of the video clips you saw in the game. as presented theyre just a framing device for the finding of the game inscryption and its story and why it changes from act to act
the thing with the code and the playing cards is all shit you have to delve like 50 layers deep to actually glean anything from and again, you dont need any of that to actually deal with the themes of the game
its just a little easter egg
your moron ass did not sit down and scrub morse code audio files to find an encrypted file referencing a reddit post with another fake tcg the developer planted 4 years prior to the making of the game
you only know any of that exists because you saw some fucking youtube slop videos covering it, the existence did not "ruin" the game itself

>>725526402
>you do not comprehend how truly asinine that shit gets
what does that prove exactly?
i'll be clear in case you want to be such a pedantic faggot: live action segments about a youtuber discovering a shelved game is literally creepypasta garbage, and i did not like it
even fucking pony island had a better framing device, since IT PRETENDS LIKE (YOU) WERE THE ONE TO DISCOVER THE SPOOKY GAME AND NOT ANOTHER FICTIONAL CHARACTER

>>725526402
that sounds incredibly pretentious and insecure, like the developer is incapable of being satisfied with making something simple and straight forward that stands on its own

>>725508485 (OP)
Fuck ARGs

>developer realizes he literally bait and switch scammed everyone purposefully
>"UHH NO... KAYCEE'S MOD COMING SOON..."

>have mildly intriguing meta-narrative, with a competent actor playing a believable söyboy youtuber
>ruin the tension with the worst actress you could find

>>725508485 (OP)
Dev has a record of this, but at least the blowback was enough for them to add an endless mode to the section people liked.

Some indie should just clone the game without the ARG bullshit and different acts.

The card game wasn't that good and wouldn't stand on its own without the greater narrative. I really don't get this meme.
Anyway, Pony Island 2