Thread 725533763

Uh gamers?

women are not gamers

I pirate games, i dont buy them

>>725533763 (OP)
There's nothing new worth playing.

The last game I bought was about 5 years ago in a steam sale.
It was Worms Armageddon.

Okay, and?

>>725533763 (OP)
And yet everyone wants to sell games for $70

>>725533763 (OP)
What do you think ? Cost of living is getting more and more expensive but the price of games is keep getting up and their quality is fucking worse despite better technology than 2-3 decades ago.

>>725533763 (OP)
>>725533806
>>725533823
>>725533841
>>725533868
>>725533893
>>725533926

Those numbers are based on PS5 users.

No-one has needed to buy a game since Dota 2 stopped needing keys to get in.

>>725533935
doubt

>>725533763 (OP)
i have the money the problem is there isnt anything good to buy, so i just blow it all gambling

>>725533763 (OP)
You play a game on mobile. You are a gamer!
Whoever is doing these statistic gathering is fucking hopeless. I really should have pursued a job in that field of marketing just literally make shit up after being lazy all day. Probably don't even have to do scatter plots or justify standard deviations.

This seems impossibly low.

>>725533763 (OP)
Games are expensive and the games I like I usually play for extended amounts of times, years more often than not.
Why spend 80 bucks on a modern turd 7 times a year when I can just play stuff I like and make it last?

>>725533763 (OP)
By "gamers" they include grandmas that play nothing but Candy Crush on their phones.

>>725533763 (OP)
Yeah?
There's nothing worth buying.
What the fuck do you want me to do about it? Just make good games if you want sales.

>>725533763 (OP)
>PS5 has no games
>XBox One has no games (real)
>Switch 2 just came out, so it has no games
>Switch 1 is old and busted, and even first party games have trouble running decently
The only demographic I can see that has any reason to buy games right now is PC gamers.

>>725534201
Are you drunk or living in fantasy land? Xbox and .PlayStation get the majority of games that matter and even popular indie/aa games. Sure it doesn’t get every small title but they get pretty much every major one.

Is it really a surprise with GamePass and PS+ people just play what’s in the rotation over buying new titles at msrp? Just wait for a sale

I just bought a warehouse clearance lot of 50 Xbox 360 and PS4 games. Can't wait to dive in. Never played The Division 2 always liked the first games winter atmosphere might start with that.

Meme purchases aside, how does anybody really do 2 games per year? I mean one Gamestop buy 2 get 1 knocks that out.

>>725534453
Nah if you really tried to subsist in the modern Xboned ecosystem you'd constantly be running into shit you just can't play. Either "never ever" or "a year or three out maybe**". I remember it took Xbox is just now getting Silent Hill 2 remake and still doesn't have Stellar Blade off the top of my head. I guess Gaystation 5 users can't play Mecha Break so you can lord that over them.

Xbox 360 is peak forever however.

>>725533763 (OP)
>Uh gamers?
Yeah, what? Most everything's shit, I'm not gonna buy crap I don't want
What do you want from me

>>725534453
Yes, but since they are all multiplatform and there are those services, what incentive they have to actually buy games?
If there were more exclusives then maybe, but as it is you are better off playing the game on rotation and, if you want to actually keep it long term, buy it on a platform that isn't going to get discountinued and has their online service (including the shop) close in the next five years.
Basically, console games are the epitome of disposable, and even the general public has realized that.

>>725533935
Kek

>>725533763 (OP)
Wasn't that the hole point of seasons and all this new business practices for user retention tho?

Todd has sold Skyrim about 4 times now and claims that Hammerfell which was announced like 8 years ago still isn't anywhere near release. Is it really the GAMERS' fault that the AAA industry is slow bloated, slow and lazy it takes them 10-15 years to make a game nowadays?

>>725533823
I pirate AAA games and games from shitty devs. Paradox is a good example.

>>725533806
they're barely even people to be honest

>>725533763 (OP)
oversaturated market

>>725533763 (OP)
>games costing more and more
>while getting worse and worse
It's a mystery.

>>725533763 (OP)
I keep playing Heroes of the Storm for free
or emulators
or pirated games

I still buy at least 6 games a year but I've been pirating most of my games in recent times.

>>725533763 (OP)
Oblivion, Expedition 33, Silksong, and I am going to buy Metroid Prime 4 on release

>>725533763 (OP)
60% of how many surveyed?

>>725537197
They asked 100 people at an inner city bus stop over the course of a week on their way to work.

>>725536160
Most people only have one console and no gaming PC. Exclusivity means nothing to them.

>>725537225
>inner city
>work
It must have been difficult to find these people.

>>725533763 (OP)
In the last 30 days I've bought 3 games. Two of those are small new(ish) indie games on Steam and one is an old game on GoG

>>725533823
Put the camera down and help the poor creature.

>>725537272
This. Literally all my family and friends except one own a Switch and nothing else. If a game isn't on Switch, it might as well not exist. Even if it runs at only 15fps and 480p, they'll still buy all multiplat games for Switch.

>>725534042
Why'd you make a scatter plot of player numbers? What are you trying to find out?

>>725533763 (OP)
Because most games aren't worth playing, much less buying
If modern gaming wasn't about muh grafix and storytime, and focused more on gameplay, and had unique styles instead of boring ass realism, I might feel inclined to buy a current gen system and partake
If games went back to 720 w/o all the visual gimmicks, decreasing development time and overall cost, that would certainly help in that endeavor, but normies are too spoiled, and since normies are the only audience aimed towards, that'll never happen
I suspect gta6 will get away with it's $100 tag, and a considerable amount of the industry will follow suit because share holders are such retards for making EVEN. MORE. despite already having plenty, but because most every other game isn't normie darling gta, more games will flop, and gaming may finally die.
A man can dream....

>>725533763 (OP)
Because I pirate most slop to laugh at it.

>>725537467
My brother owns a PS5 and Switch, I have no idea if he even plays games these days.

>>725533763 (OP)
>US game players
Was this written by a retarded AI?

>>725537559
Why not just watch comedies? Go to Open mic -night?

>>725537346
>muh burgeristan socioeconomic factors!

It's almost as if $70 is a lot of fucking money in the modern shitshow economics.

>>725537487
This. I miss when games weren't about the graphics. We need to go back to Xbox 360 levels of graphics and gameplay.

>>725537487
Panel manufacturers and the resolution race ruined graphics improvements.

>>725537637
Because amateurs pretending to be artiists has more unintended comedic value than professional comedy could hope ot achieve.

Quite based. Master your games instead of rushing them and falling for FOTM games.

>>725533763 (OP)
Games keep getting shittier and prices keep getting higher so no shit. Last game I bought was E33 and there hasn't been anything that interested me since then.

>>725533763 (OP)
They're counting people who aren't gamers. They're "game players" i.e. people who play once in a while or just waste time on Candy Crush or whatever.
With that said, a lot of new games are really shit and more and more people are just playing older ones, and/or pirating.

>>725537791
But open mic is full of amateurs? That's the point?

>>725537831
>no TRUE gamer -fallacy
>but the article is also right because I steal games
lmao

>>725537719
SOVL

>>725533763 (OP)
I used to spend all my free money on gaming shit and would buy one every week or two, now I buy 1 or 2 games per year, this seems pretty accurate.

The average gamer is now 45 years old. They don't buy games anymore, they just buy merchandise related to games they liked as kids and try 10 minutes of whatever AAAslop is on Game Pass for free.

>>725533935
That's their hubris. They counted people buying games instead of movies.

>>725537852
>unintended
That's the important part, not 'professional'

>>725533763 (OP)
>game players
>survey
into the trash it goes

>>725533763 (OP)
"2 games or fewer per year."
Just write "1 to 2 games per year."
“Fewer than 2” means only 1.
What an absolute moron.

Besides that, there are hardly any games worth buying this year.

>>725537924
>"everything is a fallacy" fallacy
It's not a fallacy to acknowledge that normies playing Candy Crush aren't gamers
>but the article is also right
The article is misleading and dishonest, but there are still reasons why actual gamers wouldn't be buying many new games
>because I steal games
I didn't say I do, faggot. I play older games almost exclusively but I still buy 5-10 a year

>>725538304
>“Fewer than 2” means only 1.
it also means zero you retard

>>725533763 (OP)
Kind of hard to buy games when the economy is in the shitter after Biden flooded the country with browns and Trump curb stomped what was left of the market with tariffs.

>>725533763 (OP)
I just bought 20 so far in this year. Though overall i think paid less than 30 dollars.

>>725534073
>This seems impossibly low.
I'm a NEET who spends basically all of my free time sitting at my computer playing games and shitposting and I haven't bought a game since Todd scammed me into buying Starfield in 2023.

Modern games are dogshit.

>>725533823
based

>>725537442
he can do it on his own

>>725533763 (OP)
Can't help it. No money. Spent it all on the PC to play games that I have to pirate now.

>>725538587
You wouldn’t say “I buy 0 games per year.”

But even if we take your logic.
The title still sound like some retard wrote it.
It should be:
“More than 60% of US gamers buy no more than two games per year.” which include not buying games at all.
Not buying 0 games.

It doesn't count subscriptions or MtX, I bet. I spend something like $50/month on FFXIV. $35 for one account, $15 for my 2nd account. That's equivalent to 1 game per month alone. I will generally waste another $30-50 on gacha shit each month.

But technically I haven't bought a base game in like 2 years.

>>725538046
I can only imagine the headaches from sitting in a room like that. Reminds me of a goon cave in a way, I think it's the overstimulation.

>>725537690
That's not really the issue for me (and I imagine a lot of people). The problem is that $70 is a lot of money FOR A DIGITAL GOOD. You don't get anything tangible for it. I have no problem blowing $150 a month on books, but spending even $30 on a videogame immediately gets me thinking if it's even worth it. Most of the time I just give up on the purchase and do something else with the money

>>725538046
I love how in addition to the fuck tons of rgb lights cycling, he's got a streamer playing games on the TV instead of playing them himself and then he still goes right to doomscrolling on his phone instead of watching. Zoomers are something else.

>>725533763 (OP)
discovering that raising the price of 'AAA' games when the price of everything else including food is also rising is a not a winner. Which is more important: gaming or eating? Most people are choosing to eat and replay older games.

The situation is not helped by modern game development being the domain of lunatics pushing bizarre ideologies and lazy writers and developers who seem to care little about quality.

maybe stop making shitty, broken games that cost $100 and people will buy more than two a year.

>>725539662
>Most people are choosing to eat and replay older games.
I don't play older games as a cost saving measure, I play them because they're better

>>725539786
Over 6.5 billion people have smartphones. That's more than every single console ever sold, combined.
It's the biggest gaming platform in the world.

>>725538046
pokemon is a mental disease and this is worse than a gooncave

>>725533763 (OP)
guess they shouldn't have told us we weren't needed and to go away. no woke go broke

>>725533763 (OP)
only shitty games out no surprise

>>725535997
Final Fantasy 16,Death Stranding 1 and Helldivers 2 all came to Xbox and the FF7 remake is arriving soon too. Playstation really doesn't have shit for actual exclusives anymore and if you're someone like me who only really games in Xbox you know everything will show up eventually if you are patient enough.

Game development is too costly to only tie software to a single platform anymore and most companies will try to port their games to everything to get that extra bit of revenue

Duh, don't most people play F2P?

>>725533763 (OP)
>60% of gamers only buy two games a year!
Oh that's terrible, truly...How many games are released each year that are truly worth buying?
>Two per year!
I see...I wonder how these correlate.

>>725533823
KURWA BOBR

>>725533763 (OP)
I've only bought two games this year and the second was actually a gift from a friend.

>>725539860
>It's the biggest gaming platform in the world
Doesn't matter when it's just casuals playing some f2p shit and don't buy games.

>>725533763 (OP)
Why would they? They did maximum damages to make sure it would happen.
Game companies turned their back from thier core audience, butchering in game women with the zealot help of troons and faggots hired specifically to do just THAT.

>>725540197
Those f2p games make more money than any $70 AAA title ever will. They bring in billions of dollars every month in perpetuity thanks to mtx.

>>725539521
>balding
>zoomer
Also, the guy is clearly taking pictures and posting them.

>>725540479
That wasn't even the point of my post. The article states BUYING GAMES, not spending on mtx.
So it's a bullshit article.

>>725540534
Buying games is OVER.

>>725536404
>they're barely even people to be honest
Not that people aren't overrated to begin with.

>>725533763 (OP)
So I wanted to find out what this study considers a "gamer" to arrive at this conclusion.

Turns out, you're not allowed to fucking read the study.
EVERY article about it is citing Mat Piscatella's Bluesky post, which only shows a graph from the study and nothing else.
There is no link to the study, because in order to access it you have to go to Circana's website and sign up.
But to sign up, you have to list the company you work for. Will this limit what I can see to my relevant industry? Is there some kind of verification process? Do I need to be an analyst myself? Fuck if I know and I'm not bothering to find out.

Unless someone ITT happens to have access and can just post the study, it's IMPOSSIBLE to look at the work they've done to verify its integrity.

For all we know, this study considers you a "game player" if you're the guy who only owns an Xbox so you can play Madden or FIFA, or my mom playing a match-3 mobile game for 7 hours a day.

>>725533935
so? >>725533806 still stands then

>>725533763 (OP)
im still busy playing the games i bought on sale 3 years ago + my forever game isnt going anywhere.

Woman gamer? I think 0 games bought is a correct assumption.

>>725540467
I have to add. It's clear they had to destroy gaming: Young people have to go back getting exploited for profits in factories and die in corporate wars.
That's who benefits from gaming decline.

>>725533763 (OP)
Yeah, that's me. There's hardly anything released these days that interest me.

I bought two newly released games last year, and one of them was a remake of an older game.

I actually bought four new games this year, but one is a remake and the other a remaster.

>>725538046
I've seen this so many times and only now noticed that there are, for some reason, TWO PS5s

>>725538046
>1/5 of the shelves littered with funko pops still in the boxes
>Fake plants
>Miasma of RGB lighting to destroy circadian rhythm
>Watercooled PC

>>725537442
it's his cross to bear

>>725533935
So 0 games?

>>725533763 (OP)
I buy a lot more than two but most of them cost under five dollars. I'll go up to 20 if it's a AAA game that is said to be good but I'll wait for 10 to 15 a lot too.

>be 29 old gen z or millennial depending on your arbitrary scales
>just find myself really playing xbox360 / PS3 generation games
>dare check out new games
>play LITERALLY the same as 360 era games, except now you can play at 30fps/1080 and LOOKIT DE REFLECSHUNS on a window you’d otherwise never glance at
>other than that it’s RTS, extraction shooters which dont interest me outside of maybe helldivers 2, racing games with get more and more features removed every year, and souls-like games…
>dont get me started on ubishit openworldslop. am i playing assassins creed 3 or 8? i legit cant tell
yeah
nah
gonna blow up some civilians in arma 3 (2013) then if i wanna cool off i’ll play GTA 4 (2009) or GTA 5 (2013) and cruise around.

>>725537272
>>725537467
Sure, but how many of them only play the popular new thing and/or the live service/multyplayer game where all their friends are?
As I said, for people like them there is no reason to buy new games, cause they have PS+ and Gamepass that, from their perspective, basically have no downside.

>>725541341
>other than that it’s RTS
What new RTS games are out? AoE 2 and Starcraft are still the only RTS games that get any sort of playerbase and they're both nearly 30 years old.

do you guys buy any merchandise from games? I buy soundtrack CDs to rip and upload and some art books.

>>725541440
Your post is bait. Sins of a Solar Empire 1-2 has a player base and is an RTS.

>>725541543
>has a player base
Yeah, right.

>>725541598
Nobody plays on Steam.

>>725541097
If it's still in the box it's appreciating tho

>>725541703
Yep, just like my father's beanie babies! He might not've been able to retire on them, but I will!

>>725541703
funkos are in the dumbs and the company might actually go under, would be nice to see. only obscure shit will appreciate
>t. sold a personal 5 6xLP for over $2000USD

>>725533763 (OP)
Buy our games as a service, we'll keep them updated so there's always new stuff!
What do you mean people aren't buying our new games?

>>725541862
Bet the shareholders didn't see that coming.

>>725541598
>he doesn't know what a player base is
Put effort into your shitposts. Also, >>725541698 is correct as it came out months earlier on Epic.

>>725542116
Do you actually think people play games on EGS besides Fortnite?

>>725542116
A player base is those actively playing the game. Why would I pick up an RTS that nobody plays when I can play one where they do?

>>725541862
heh
>congrats, all the kids saw you turn every game into fortnite or roblox or minecraft, so they stick with those now
>now what

>>725542231
>game developer
>he thinks this one dev speaks for all of the players
Yesm some do.
>>725542285
>nobody is anything not in the tens of thousands
I see that you are moving goalposts here. The claim was that only those two have a player base, when his claim was incorrect. I won't doubt that those two old game have a much larger player count, but that wasn't the claim.

The question is how big of a base are you talking about when you talk about the genre being dead, and does it have to have the longevity of some others?

>>725533935
Two games too many for PS5 users

>>725533763 (OP)
The only game i bought this year was BG3 on sale.

>>725539860
The people playing them still aren't gamers however.

>>725537442
bobr kurwa

>>725533763 (OP)
>industry: takes way longer to release new games
>gamers: have less games to buy every year
>industry: suprised pikachu.jpeg

>>725533763 (OP)
I believe it. Make better games or get fucked