Thread 725553952

Why do modern developers develop their game worlds to be theme parks rather than cohesive and well realized living places?

because games are supposed to be fun.

>>725553952 (OP)
It's also funny when you ride around Stormveil and you get greeted by this view instead:

videogames are not supposed to be simulators

Dark Souls 2 paper tree forest.

>>725554114
>>725554285

>>725553952 (OP)
nug

>>725553952 (OP)
What are some games with "cohesive and well realized living places"?

>>725554986
Hollow Knight, but only the first one

>>725554986
Rain World
Gothic I/II
Metroid Prime
Morrowind
Hollow Knight
Fallout 1/2
Dark Souls
Thief I/II
Outer Wilds

>>725553952 (OP)
>>725554986
KCD I-II

>>725553952 (OP)
I agree, and elden ring, is a patchwork hellhole. i saw it a mile off from day 1. people try to tell me otherwise.

>>725556290
Sovl

>>725554986
well, most games struggle, even WoW with its MMO-esque seperation feels more realised than eldenring

GTA's

I dont play many games but yeah, i just know, elden ring was made by a blind man with a lobotomy.

>>725553952 (OP)
Oh gee I don't know, it couldn't possibly be that World of Warcraft, a theme park mmoRPG, has printed billions of dollars for Blizzard/Activision-Blizzard?

It's the same way every FPS game emulates Call of Duty's hyper fast explosions every 2 seconds style gameplay. Very few outlying niche titles do anything different.

>>725556837
How did From go from DeS to ER in the span of just 13 years? ER almost feels like a parody.

>>725555191
that's literally a theme park

>>725553952 (OP)
Problem with ER is the world feels completely empty and dead despite supposedly being civilizational drama. It can feel like a gmod map sometimes.

You meet about 3 actual NPCs in the world, what does the ending you choose even matter in that case.

>>725553952 (OP)
I get your point but honestly I can give ER a pass
because it's supposed to be this grand decaying world that's hostile to you

but they still could've added real settlements and a town

I was kind of hoping taht elden ring would have factions vying for the land and all that good stuff, like the ballas and grove street in san andreas, but nope, it was just a big flat dark souls level. They even removed covenants so it felt emptier than ever.

>>725553952 (OP)
Becuase it's hard and it clashes with other parts of game development that modern players care about more. Like Action combat, enemy design/placement, encounter zones/level scaling.

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>>725557567
>Action combat, enemy design/placement, encounter zones/level scaling.
None of these are incompatible with making a cohesive world though. Many games manage to have all of those along with well realized worlds.

>>725557320
same, initially thought this was why they got fat Tolkien involved

>>725557730
And if you name them you'll name games that are almost decades apart and are considered GOATs. My point is it's something that's difficult to pull off, and in some cases it's done by accident seeing as how it's never repeated in the sequels (Hollow Knight/Dark Souls 1 for example)

Even Sekiro felt more like a lived in world than Elden Ring ever did.

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>>725557567
They could have had more NPCs, more interactive quest lines, better voice lines for existing enemies. All would make the world appear more occupied and improve the game.

>>725553952 (OP)
Because realism is boring and tedious.
It's what killed RDR2 for me. It's just a sim for larping autists. I dont want to waste 20 seconds having to grab my shotgun and rifle from my ball shrinking horse every time I get off.

>>725558801
No one said anything about realism.

>>725553952 (OP)
because if the adhd retards have to run between events for more than 30 seconds they complain about the "empty open world"

>>725554375
You're a pathetic person.

>>725553952 (OP)
So, you're really not gonna like the answer, but it all went wrong with this game here. This was the start of the decline.

>>725559349
>If you don't like goylsop, you're pathetic!

>>725553952 (OP)
Anon thats a ps4 game with ps4 limitations. What were you expecting? A masterpiece? Gotta make it for the PC first.

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>>725556132
Morrowind is a theme park.
Hollow Knight is a theme park.
Gothic's entire world is the size of a city park.

>>725557182
They decided to make games that are fun and not just material for retards with British accents to make video essays about.
An average enemy encounter in Elden Ring is more fun than the best boss fight in Demon's Souls.

Demon's Souls doesn't even have a coherent world design because you literally teleport from place to place.

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>>725559693
>>725562207
Based