Thread 725593740

>don't play Raging Loop, anon!!! The ending is utterly fucking retarded!!!
>after years of having it on my backlog I finally play it and realize that the ending is no stranger than something you'd get from an Agatha Christie novel
Why did 2017-/v/ react so badly to this game's ending?
I feel like the ending would be way better received in our current post-Danganronpa V3 and Zero Time Dilemma /v/.
Those games marked a paradigm shift in what is considered a REAL shitty ending.
Can't wait for Depth Loop next year, hope we get an english translation on release

That bitch got "popeye arms" calves

>>725593894
And they're beautiful

Eh I thought it was kinda lame too, but the revelations mode really evelated it for me to 10/10 from like an 8/10 honestly I don't remember why I disliked it though.

>>725593894
Good thing I have a specific fetish for /fit/ girls with thicker legs and defined chiselled calves

>>725593740 (OP)
>the motives were too complex for him
lmao

>>725593740 (OP)
People who got filtered by the ending are just brainlets.

>>725597790
I liked ZTD
Dicking around and typing Delta during the crossbow section more than made up for the alien technology fuckery and complex motives.
I'm easy to please

>>725593740 (OP)
>Depth Loop
So this is the sequel that was supposedly being made?

How was he so powerful?

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>>725598115
Yes.
Also we're getting D.M.L.C. translated in February (same universe and scenario writer as Raging Loop)

>>725598213
He went for the same build as the protagonist only he minmaxed better.

>>725598471
Haruaki put too many points in schizophrenia

>>725593740 (OP)
I got to the first ending where everyone died and the credits rolled but I wasn't too big a fan of the characters or the art style

Should I give the game another try or is it not for me

>>725599094
If you like multi-mystery route and sci-adv novels you probably should. The first ending barely counts as a prologue as you don't even get to see the protagonist in action.

>>725593740 (OP)
The problem with RL's endings comes down to two layers
>One of course is explaining the mystery and mysticism aspects as all just smoke and mirrors, no matter how absurd or improbable it would be. Sometimes the better writing is just saying "Shit's magic, yo".
>The other comes from the fact that mysticism DOES exist, with the protagonist having the explicit power to make the magic mundane. Their attempts to connect it to Death Match Love Comedy does feel incredibly shoehorned and compromises what made Raging Loop unique and magical. And...you know...not having DMLC for that full context of Super Special Abilities.

The "Agatha Christie" view is something I haven't considered and KINDA makes me appreciate the ending diatribe a bit more, but it doesn't help the secret notes' content. It really is the cherry on top to a very weak moment.

>>725599652
Second greentext was also supposed to be spoilered. Oops.
>>725599094
Yeah, excuse RL's slow start. It is actually trying to set things up and works better as the answer to the obvious: "What if I just don't play the murder game! HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!?". It really is just the prologue, though the game's title should really have clued you in on the LOOPING aspect here...

>>725599652
Oh yeah... What you said in your second greentext line made me curious. I guess Meiko is from DMLC?
I just went on VNDB and saw what character she is from that novel, hope I didn't spoil myself too badly, tho I guess I could infer that character is her based on hair and eye color.

>>725599652
I like that aspect of it though, not to mention it wasn't ALL like that, there's no way you can smoke and mirrors time looping. I thought it was a cool mix and it was interesting what was real magic and what wasn't. Though I gotta admit regarding the rabid dogs and especially the old man being the giant wolf that kills them if they stay alive long enough came out as pretty shaky explanation

I disliked the secret notes for that too though. It really kinda ruined it. It's basically the very last thing in the game though. I mentally ignore

>>725601067
>old man being the giant wolf that kills them if they stay alive long enough
Yeah, I really can't buy it that during the hundreds of loops that Haruaki and Chiemi went through trying crazy shit they didn't get to beat the old man even once, the guy is 95 years old for fucks sake.

>>725598213
Because he'd covered wars, you know?

>レイジングループ
>Raging Loop
>Raging Loup
>Razing Group
>Leijing Lubu
>Raising Loop
>麗人
I hate katakana

>>725593740 (OP)
>Raging Loop thread on the day that DMLC's translation gets announced
Huh. Anyway, people have gone over a lot of what I hated about it, but one thing I didn't understand and still don't is why did spider chick have to wait in the village for a year before the next game was hosted when the entire game wasn't supernatural in the slightest and she had the clan under her thumb so she could've just forced them to host it? I don't know if this is something that was lost in translation or if I missed something but it's still a total mystery to me.

>>725606390
The game itself might not be supernatural but the circumstances that allow it to occur without issues are.
She really doesn't have that much power. Certainly not enough to force them to start it outside of the "natural" circumstances.

>>725598115
These character designs are nowhere near as memorable as Raging Loop's. Why didn't they bring the same artist back? Were they afraid young newcomers wouldn't be interested in the old art style?

>>725593740 (OP)
The ending is fucking retarded but the game is still worth playing.
Funny you mention V3 because V3's ending, while still being shit, is miles above Raging Loop's.

Revelations Rikako is retard-moe
I love her

>>725608416
In what world is the le epic meta ending that shits on you for engaging with the series not worse? Definitely not this one.

>>725608848
>shits on you for engaging with the series
another retard who didn't get it award

>>725607149
I'm aware that there was tons of supernatural stuff going on, but I'm talking about how the werewolf game itself was entirely manmade and no aspect of it required supernatural elements or even a specific time.
>She really doesn't have that much power
Really? I thought she talked about having them under her thumb or something like that, but I beat it 5 or so years ago so maybe I'm misremembering.
>Certainly not enough to force them to start it outside of the "natural" circumstances.
Speaking of, was there ever a proper reason given as to why it was held this time? I vaguely recall the previous head wondering why the hell the current head was doing that and I don't remember any reason being given.

>>725607515
They don't have the original artist or the original writer. I don't know if anyone from DMLC or Raging Loop's teams are working on this, making me wonder why it's even a sequel in the first place.

>>725608915
Pot calling the kettle nigger.

>>725608915
>>725608848
>>725608416
Even ignoring V3's shitty meta commentary, its ending remains far more dissonant with the rest of the game and the story hints you've followed up to that point than Raging Loop's is. I thought people hated Raging Loop precisely because its ending diverged so wildly from the rest of the game. It makes no sense for you to praise V3 for pulling that same stunt while shitting on Raging Loop's.

>>725609538
People don't hate Raging Loop though. It's only a small contingent of people who either didn't get it or think it's too ass pulley. I for one am completely on board with the protagonist turning out to be a high functioning sociopath with reality bending powers

>>725610158
Honestly I still think RL's ending is miles ahead of V3's solely because RL doesn't feel like the author being mad that he can't break cliches then keeps making the same cliches anyways before and after the game.

>>725610158
>reality bending powers

Well you don't seem to get it either, because that bit was entirely conjecture from characters in universe rather any actual proven thing.

>>725609538
>It makes no sense for you to praise V3 for pulling that same stunt while shitting on Raging Loop's.
Considering you can't even read a post, because I specifically called V3's ending shit, yeah I can see why you wouldn't understand them. Maybe VNs aren't for you?

>>725610158
and the protagonist knowing the solution all along and just pretending he doesn't know and this being kept from player?
and every character mentally kneeling to hassan upon first meeting him for no reason?
surely you like those parts too?

>>725610735
>that bit was entirely conjecture
I honestly feel bad for you. It's framed as being pretty blatantly the case but you're too autistic to accept it because it's not 100% stated.

Best twist in the game. Brilliantly executed. They dropped hints everywhere, yet it still caught me completely off guard

Playing the post game revelations mode now. This is a 10/10 comedy.

>>725611180
>hurr durr my interpretation of this piece of media is 100% correct!!!
I don't feel bad for you, because being a hardheaded asshole is a conscious choice you're making. If you believe it then you're more than welcome to, and if you don't then that's fine too but I don't think you should say that either interpretation is objectively correct.
And for the record I don't really care if it's true or not because the end result is the exact same. What if the weatherman that you see on TV is actually a druid that's making it rain tomorrow instead of predicting it? Does it matter if it just means that it's going to rain either way?
>>725611557
This honestly is one of my favorite twists in any VN, it's small but great.
>>725612262
It's a shame that Haru's ending wasn't nearly as good, but you've gotta take what you can get.

I feel sorry for people who hated the ending... They were expecting something like Ever17/999 twists mixed with the werewolf genre, but at its core, Raging Loop really is a dating game about choosing between Chiemi, Rikako, or Haru, with Chiemi canonically winning, so people who prefer the other girls lose badly.

>>725612603
the badger is the best girl tho.

>>725612584
What was his fucking problem? No, really. What was his deal?
I don't remember it being explained why he's as schizo as fucking Grimm and other schizo alliance characters

>>725612603
On one hand I'm upset that Rikako didn't win, on the other hand I'm happy that Nosato got his waifu, but on the other other hand I'm sad that Nosato had to find out that his waifu was a total fucking bitch and he deserves better than her.
>>725612659
You're absolutely right but you know that she's a package deal.
>>725612692
He's just an honest to god sociopath who has no issue with making inhumane decisions that are perfectly logical for their horrible situation. That's it, it isn't anything special.

>>725612692
It's a perfectly reasonable suggestion in the circumstances.
There is no why. He's just a high functioning sociopath.

>>725612387
>because being a hardheaded asshole is a conscious choice
The ironing is palpable.

>>725611557
what is this twist again? i dont get it
i beat the whole game 5 years ago and i dont remember much of it.

>>725613721
Near the ending when Rikako reveals she's the big bad trying to summon the monster to crush Japan, she reminds Haruaki that in one of the loops he made a promise to her, saying that she could ask "Haruaki Fusaishi" whatever she wanted and in turn he could do the same for "Rikako Uematsu". The twist is that Haruaki isn't even his name and he's been lying about it all along. We never get to know what his actual name is. Also there were hints all over the story that Haruaki wasn't even his name, when he introduced himself he did the whole "Etoo... Ummm..." thing he does whenever he's about to tell a lie.

>is a gigachad
>uses boku
I don't get it

>>725613124
>I'm going to show false pity for you while making an assumption on your point of view and when I'm confronted over it I'm just going to say "no u" without any attempt at a discussion or making a worthwhile post
You get a pity reply to help bump the thread. Please try to be a better poster in the future.

>>725595636
>revelations mode

I started reading it, but I had already invested so much time into just finishing the story. Is there really that much going on?

>>725615128
I just finished it in like 2 hours (I read only the RL text and skipped the normal story, I'm not reading the same 20-hour VN twice in a row, no matter how good it is) and it was like 20% lore dumps about Yasumizu and its culture, 10% insights into what characters are thinking and then 70% gags related to the 3 heroines being wet as fuck and fighting over Haruaki
It was ok, but if you're not into that I would just go for the alternate endings.

test

>the migurumas having to explain the wolf stuff to reiko
funniest shit in that VN

>>725615562
Sounds like I'm not missing out then. I lost my file when I moved computers so I'm not going to go that far out of my way.

i thought 999's end was trash and it tanked the game for me, would the same happen here?

>>725615728
For me it the revelation that this sketchy guy from Fujiyoshi wasn't trying to send Haruaki to his death in the ritual, he wasn't even aware of what was going on, he was just a good-natured clueless guy hoping to improve Yasumizu's situation even just a little by sending ''suicidal'' Haruaki to live there.

>>725616128
Probably.
What are your thoughts on VLR and ZTD's endings?

>>725614493
hes the authors self-insert and the author is around college age

>>725616281
That means the author is a 35 to 40 year old boomer just like me since the novel is 10 years old by now
That's cool

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>mogs Toujirou Mitake
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>mogs Apollo Justice
>mogs Sissel
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>mogs Atsuki Akutoki
>mogs Lyle

>mogs your favorite VN protag

PROSTRATE before your GOD Haruaki Fusaishi (???)

>>725616634
Fat guy mogs him

>>725616634
(woah... he's so cool...)

>>725616634
He reminds me of this guy, both are based and into underage girls.

>>725599094
Bro you didn't get 'the first ending' you finished the prologue

>>725616925
Haruaki would best Q-taro

>>725616219
i never played them because they were connected to 999 lol

>>725593740 (OP)
Raging Loop's ending is fine, it's just that fine is such a step down from the midgame highs.

Probably would've been better if it the plan wasn't so slapped together. After hundreds of loops, fair amount just spent fucking around, you'd think the lead dude would know that dumb village inside and out and wouldn't have to gamble on timing at all.

>>725618020
The hundreds of loops were mostly wasted garbage loops he was did just to please Chiemi though. He didn't actually have much preparation to dig the ins-and-outs of the village, for instance he never even bothered checking the cameras or electronic doors in any of the loops because.... reasons I guess, I guess he was just so sure his plan would work that he didn't even bother

>>725608848
>ending that shits on you for engaging with the series
Anon, your waifu was always fictional, and being metafictional as well doesn't make that any more or less true.

>depth loop isn't being written by the same author as raging loop
Disappointed but willing to give it a chance

someone please post the ryuukishi07 style agatha christie sprite

>>725608915
Retarded nigger. No amount of denial from Kodaka (who regularly lies btw) can change the ending

The art style doesn't look as nice, but I think the designs are fine. They're simple and convey personality. I'm guessing there's a story reason why most of them are wearing white coats. I'll take anything that isn't horribly overdesigned and unpleasant to look at (like Rain Code or Hundred Line's characters)

>>725619795
meant for >>725607515

>>725619795
They look better than in raging loop lol

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