Thread 725657314

8GB VRAM
FUCKING 8

>>725657314 (OP)
You don't really need more than 8GB of VRAM doe

>>725657487
>being a ramlet instead of rammaxxing

>>725657314 (OP)
Dead on arrival

>>725657487
this. it's maxed out for years

it's crazy to realize that half of steam has shittier specs than a base ps5, according to hardware survey

of course, the frame is barely over 1080p per eye lol

>>725657487
cope. even red dead 2 needs more than that.

I was stuck with 2gb of ram between 2011 and 2024 and it was hell. Gotta love that Win7 resource priority setting though.
Idle used 17% ram and as Rimworld ramps up it would squeeze that 17% down to about 3% lol, everything but the game running very slowly.

>>725657487
This SHOULD be true.

>>725658002
nah i've 6gb vram and every game works

>>725657487
>>725657314 (OP)
Because consoles have unified memory developers can decide how much they want to be for the graphics side of things. The PS5 has 16GB of RAM to a PC redditer sounds like "oh it has 8GB of system ram and 8GB of VRAM!" when in reality it can have as much VRAM as a developer wants or vice versa.

If you're trying to play it safe matching it plus half would be a reasonable way to slide under the radar, 12GB of VRAM. Obviously your PC is way more bloated than a console so you still need at least 16GB of system RAM, preferably more.

>>725657793
>card that was infamously shit on for have 8gb vram in 2025

>>725658251
didnt stop them from releasing it anyway.

>>725657314 (OP)
So it's a repeat of Steam Machines.

>>725658187
At medium settings and/or 1080p.
>t. 2060

>>725657613
>>725658002
>final fantasy xvi
>rdr2
So shit games? Thanks for proving my point

>>725657487
my RX 570 was struggling with some games at 1080p Ultra in 2019. I can't imagine how shit your games will look and run today with 8gb

>>725658713
have you considered that it's weak ass card and the vram has not much to do with it? it's just temporary memory. not the actual part that does the performance.

>>725657314 (OP)
You don't get it. 8GB VRAM is a spot where it is enough for gaming, but not enough for AI. That keeps prices down for you, gamer, because even lower end 16 gig cards all get bought out and resold for double the price to 1girl appreciators. The best you can do on a 8 gig card AI-wise is old 1.5 Stable Diffusion models and they kinda suck compared to modern stuff. Text and video, forget it. If they don't sell 8 gig cards, most people won't be able to afford the scalper prices.

lmao

>>725657487
>xyz doe o algo or something
shartyfags should be banned on site

you aren't wrong though

VRAM chips are so fucking cheap though.

>>725657314 (OP)
if a game lists 'VRAM' in the minimum requirements, it's not worth playing, it's that simple

>>725659929
>He doesn't know

>>725657314 (OP)
keep in mind the software is so well optimized, it's like you have a 5090

>>725659498
This. Nvidia understands how well they've captured the 1girl market and will continue to jew us on VRAM until new games simply don't run properly on 8GB.

>>725657803
Hardware on pc runs more efficiently than on console you can't compare

>>725658002
Rdr 2 released on xbox one, a device with 8gb shared ram. It doesn't need 8gb of vram.

>>725660475
Incorrect

>>725660140
>the software is so well optimized
So it just magically fixes bloated games?

>>725659498
>The best you can do on a 8 gig card AI-wise is old 1.5 Stable Diffusion models and they kinda suck compared to modern stuff.
I'm on 6GB and I'm running SDXL fine. RAM only becomes an issue when it comes to training loras or video gen.

>>725660291
Again, it's not just them jewing us out of vram (though that too). 8 gig cards are a niche BECAUSE they can't 1girl. If you are just a gamer and you want a budget (-ish) new GPU that doesn't get swept off the shelves immediately, you get an 8 gig. If they only sold cards with 16 gigs or more, you'd just have a market where everything is scalped and all GPUs are too expensive, but for now the 8 gig cards are undesirable for the main consumer of GPUs, yet good enough for the gaming niche, so people can actually kinda afford them.

>>725657314 (OP)
I only have 2 and I can't play a ton of new games because of it.

>>725657314 (OP)
Based

NVIDIA HATERS LITERALLY IN SHAMBLES

>>725660846
I had trouble on a 1070 and had to upgrade because the VRAM bottleneck was becoming too much even on 1.5. Upgrading to a 3060 (the last low end card Nvidia released with more than 8GB) made Pony and Illustrious perfectly usable.

>>725657314 (OP)
Is that a quote from Apple?

>>725657613
the ps5 version uses 16gb ram (shared btw)
why are devs so shit with pc ports

>>725657803
And that's why I was baffled when Capcom targeted higher than PS5 specs for Wilds.

>>725657314 (OP)
I feel like this mass hysteria about VRAM was artificially manufactured to get people to spend more than they need to because I cannot fucking imagine what issues people are running into to where their games are straight up unplayable at any level.

>>725657314 (OP)
The human eye can't see more than 8 GB of memory per frame.

>>725657314 (OP)
8GB VRAM should be sufficient desu, games now dont really look much better than a few years ago

>>725657487
How's Gabe's anus taste fag?

>>725661370
Forge with --always-offload-from-vram --always-no-vram flags forces it to use a low amount of vram to avoid out-of-memory issues. The second flag's speed penalty is pretty big but the first flag only adds a couple seconds between gens.

With first flag it maxes out at 6gb and with both it maxes out at 4,5gb. 3060 too, makes it usable for playing modern games while genning.

you're genuinely retarded if you think valve hasn't accounted for this

Name one game that won't run on less than 16GB VRAM

>>725662634
games from a few years ago were more demanding than 8GB

>>725662957
which ones

>muh vram!
It's a computer for playing videogames, not churning out AI slop.

>>725660291
guh moar

>>725663075
there's an example with the third reply in this thread

>>725658406
Kind of, but there's just one this time.

>>725657487
I wish this was true

>>725662702
The VRAM fixes were how I managed with 1.5 but the speed wasn't where I wanted it to be. I barely play games on my PC now so I run at full VRAM. It could be better but I'm not willing to pay a premium for speed improvements. Function improvements would get me to upgrade. Local video gens getting really good might push me over.
>>725663371

>>725660138
The AI doesn't need particularly fast VRAM.
There's that one AI focused machine that should be on par with something like 4070 ti, but in CP77 it can do only 1080p 60-ish fps on medium settings without ray tracing

>singlehandedly saved my 5070 8gb vram laptop purchase for years to come
Thanks Valve

>>725663331
True that thing is so weak it wouldn't even be able to run games that need more than 8GB VRAM.

>>725657487
You can't play Stellar Blade nor Dragon's Dogma 2 with only 8GB of VRAM. It will run incredibly shitty, damn unplayable for anyone who seriously wants to enjoy their time.

>>725657314 (OP)
Let me guess, you need more?

>>725657613
Ran on my 2060 just fine

Ultra settings are for futureproofing, you're supposed to play on high or medium depending on the age of your card. Anything higher than an x070 is a meme.

>>725667375
>Anything higher than an x070 is a meme.
for future proofing

>>725657314 (OP)
>Linux ZRAM is a powerful tool for optimizing memory usage and improving system performance. By compressing inactive memory pages and storing them in a virtual block device in RAM, ZRAM allows you to make the most of your available physical RAM. In this blog post, we have covered the fundamental concepts of ZRAM, discussed its usage methods, explored common practices, and provided best practices to help you effectively use ZRAM on your Linux system.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Zram

You won't even notice the buttery smooth 20fps dips

>>725667884
That's for main system RAM, not VRAM.

>>725666932
Oh no not Dragons Dogshit 2! What ever will we do?

More than enough for most Steam users.

>>725668273
Valve has to make the Source engine into an Unreal competitor so we are saved from Tim Sweeney and it's Unreal retarded engine.

>>725668987
Okay but how does that necessitate a purchase for them?

>>725670092
I don't see a market either, but I suppose Valve could eventually build up a following for their Steam hardware products. Might take a decade or more, but Steam didn't start off big either. Either way, I don't see the Steam Machine selling more than 10M units in 5 years. It'll be worse than the Wii U, but if all this is just the first phase of a 20 year plan to get into the hardware business, it's fine.

>>725668987
>premium games
do normalfags really

I have a 4gb card that runs everything on high at 1080p at stable 60 fps so I don't see the problem