Thread 725670602

If:
<$400
Instant success with everyone buying it and selling millions
>$400
Meh, not that great of a deal
>$700
Lol

Why would I buy this if I already own a Steam Deck?

>>725670602 (OP)
It's gonna be $2k

Does it emulate switch 2

>>725670732
its gonna cost less than the ps5 trvst the plqn

>>725670602 (OP)
If there's a skin that lets you make it look like a Companion Cube, I'll take two

>>725670776
its running linux and has a desktop mode so yes you can emulate

>>725670602 (OP)
if it's cheap I'll buy it for going away somewhere for a few nights. It will be closer to a grand though so fuck that

>>725670602 (OP)
It will cost the same as a ps5.

>>725670602 (OP)
They are going to sell it at a loss. The real deal is the x86 translation layer. Valve gonna go all in on ARM and they want to beat microsoft using ARM. Arm is the future and they know it. But most are stuck on x86, and they have to lead the way.

>>725670776
Did a quick Google, the Steam Deck is 1.6 tflops, while the Switch 2 is 3.2 tflops. Doing the math, the Gabecube being six times stronger than the Deck means that it's at least 9.6 tflops. Not only could it emulate Switch 2, but it's nearing the PS5 in terms of power. It's as strong as a three- or four-year-old gaming laptop.

>>725670776
switch 2 has no games

I'd get one if i could

>>725670776
There is no switch 2 emulator.

>>725670982
The cube doesn't use an arm CPU anon, you're thinking of the VR headset

>>725670675
6x more powerful

If it's reasonably priced I may buy one to connect to my TV to use my steam library on a big screen.

>>725670602 (OP)
Exactly what I was thinking. The specs are weak but if they can make it cheap as shit it wouldn't be that bad

>>725670982
this isn't ARM64 retard-kun, valve is not going all in on arm.

this is an amd x64 cpu. the vr headset is the ARM device.

>>725670602 (OP)
Who is this for? If you already have a PC you don't need it. If you already have a steam deck you don't need it. If you already have VR you don't need it.

>>725671974
i have a pc and its a potato. i'll probably sell my recently highly inflated cs2 skins and buy a steam machine for myself lol

>>725670602 (OP)
can't wait to slap a handle on the back and paint it purple, then emulate nothing but gamecube games on it.

>>725671974
Dumbass here. What if I only have a PC and don't care much about the deck? How does the headset and VR shit rate?

>>725672107
You're just switching our your potato pc (that can be upgraded) for a potato that can't be upgraded

>>725670602 (OP)
Damn they beat Microsoft going all in on PC. Hopefully the next Xbox is worth a damn because that shit is collecting dust

>>725671974
My guess is that it's for normies that only use phones / consoles and never went into PC gaming because it's "too nerdy" or they are scared of building a PC.
Basically an attempt by valve to make cheap ass console like machine that is actually a PC, to spread their steam library to new customers.

>>725670602 (OP)
700$ is ps5 pro digital. What u smoking

>>725670602 (OP)
<400
delulu
keep in mind that a ps5+controller+internet loicense+tax+tip+tariff+kickstand is around 700$
it just has to be cheaper than that

>>725672256
trust me bro the steam machine is leagues better than the rock i'm currently using

also it's small enough for me to bring it with me when i travel... it's perfect, really

>>725670982
Mandatory Jim Crow IQ tests in the Captcha coming when?

>>725671974
lightweight easy to set up console that has all of your games. it's for people who want to game in other rooms or travel a lot and don't want to deal with all the bullshit of owning a locked down box sold by the big 3.

Its 100% going to be at least 800 Euro in Europe. But it will probably be much cheaper in America.

>>725671974
I basically just want a cheap pc I can hook up to my big tv in the living room that also acts as somewhat of a media station that I can watch streams, movies, etc. I don't give a shit about the handheld aspect of the deck and this is reasonably more powerful.

>>725670602 (OP)
$799
The price of NAND and DRAM are way too fucking high for them to make any money at less than $600.

>>725671974
People who bought a deck without a pc and now want a prebuilt pc.

>>725670602 (OP)
no chance in hell it's under 500

>>725670602 (OP)
if its less than $500 ill buy one and set it up in my mums kitchen for her to stream netflix and browse internet on.
i've been hunting for a laptop for her but for some reason the cheapest ones i can find that aren't bound for the trash after a year are all over $1000.
the gabecube is 100% just a litte nuc

>>725671974
>If you already have a rajeeshsoft 11 spyware machine you don't need it.

>>725671974
I can bring it into my office if I want.
Look very portable.
I can also use it to do work on my desks.
Use case is there.
The only downside is 0 upgradability.
But be honest 90% of PC gamers rarely upgrade and just buy new after 6 or 8 years.

>>725670602 (OP)
>Dogshit specs leaks were all final
>Only cope now is the pricing
Steam makes billions of dollars every fucking year, that retard Gaben should foot the cost so he can sell the 512GB base model at $299 with a controller included and the 2TB model at $450 for this shit hardware he's selling. Anything above that is a fucking scam.

>>725671974
I use my Steam Deck for this purpose already, but I bring it when I visit my siblings so we can play vidya. The Gabecube will be small enough to serve this purpose and be far more capable

5 or 6 bills, I'll grab one. Anything higher, I'll pass.

>>725671974
Me. I've built PCs before but these days I'd rather just pay a bit more for something that just works. Had a bad run of luck with a motherboard that fried all the ports and I just can't be arsed these days.

>>725672721
i mean do we have any sales numbers on the ally? did it outsell the deck?

>>725672883
I forgot my caveat being that it comes with a controller.

>>725671974
Have a PC but hate playing most games on my computer.

The option to
>play steam library
>with mods
>plus emulation
>and pirated games
on my TV with no hassle, just plugging in and playing it, is very attractive to me. It's all I've ever wanted for years desu

>>725671974
Assembling a desktop is too hard for zoomers.

If you can upgrade the GPU without needing to buy a new one, then it's an instant buy from me. Probably gonna buy it regardless since my current computer's a potato meant for work anyway.

People bought the Switch 2 at $500, Valve can probably get away with up to $700. That puts it up against the PS5 Pro which wasn't enough of an upgrade to warrant the price. This is probably worth the price.
If Valve eats the cost and sells it for $600 it's gonna do very well.

>>725672721
I think it might just be a play by valve. They have an infinite money printing machine with steam and monopoly over PC games with zero effort on their side. They could easily sell these subes at ultra low prices below production cost just to sell them to millions to normies and cash up on normies buying games from steam library.
Will it be the actual play? No idea.

>>725671974
me:
a console gamer who hates snoy hates microshit and doesn't want to pay the tendietax

>>725673110
it's soldered in, but if you're comfortable with that it should be totally feasible

>>725673110
Pre-review on gamer nexus with valve's engineer confirmed that they went with everything soldered into the motherboard instead of modular parts to save on size/cooling.

So is this finally a PC for a tv or what? That's all I care about, getting to play steam on my tv.
Always been a console guy, hate pcs. Dudes sitting in chairs looking at a small screen has to be the gayest and most uncomfortable thing ever made "normal". Couch and tv will always be superior and I will get this if that's what it is.

>>725670602 (OP)
><$400
>Instant success with everyone buying it and selling millions
lol steamies are truly delusional

Can't run FIFA/NBA2k/Madden
Can't run Battlefield
Can't run Call of Duty
Can't run Fortnite
Can't even buy games on launch because you don't know if it will be compatible with Steam meme OS
512 GB on base model. Next model is 2 TB which will be a costly upgrade
No disc reader, so competing with PS5 Digital
Weak specs

This is a niche product for Valve fanboys that want something to hook on the TV to play indie slop, just like the Deck. Just like the Deck, very few people will buy it, and it won't be a success.

It has the same flaws as the Deck, it's the same product with a different form factor.

>b-b-but you can install Windows!
Normies aren't going to do that.

>>725673116
Nigger this is weaker than a base PS5 significantly

>>725671974
This is for me and me exclusively. For years now I've wanted a mini-pc that easy to plug into my tv and play games/watch movies etc.

If this does everything I hope it does and it's practical, I might sell my PS5 and just have this + a switch from now on.
Also very excited to downgrade my gaming pc to a purely working pc that's smaller and portable.

why the fuck is the captcha asking my about circles wtf thappened

>>725673394
It is a very weak budget PC for the TV. I'd skip this and get the next Xbox which will be a more expensive but also much more capable PC for the TV.

>>725673394
It's basically a PC in a small cube, and with all hardware parts smoldered into the motherboard like on consoles. It has all the functionalities of a PC, all the ports, comes with Valve's Linux skin as the operating system, but isn't locked and you can install windows if you want to.

>>725673092
You're not special for being a basedllennial and the average white Gen Zyklon is 20 IQ points higher than yours.

>>725673171
why would they sell a high cost/ high specs machine when other companies have shown they're willing to do that?
>>725673394
>a PC for a tv
if you don't care about ue5 games steam deck already does that

>>725673583
Lel kid you sound upset, also zoomoids are literally the dumbest and gayest generation yet

>>725670602 (OP)
>he thinks you can get a modern mitx build for $400
lol the motherboard alone will be $350 dumbass

I hope Valve sees all this negative reaction and prices it so low that nobody complains. What a disappointment all around, not even the fag that kept an eye on the Deckard for years was happy with the final specs of the Steam Frame.

>RDNA 3
>8GB
It's DOA

>>725673760
Most of phone/consoles producers, if not all sell their hardware at net loss. The real money is made on apps/games/subscriptions, like Apple does with app store. Valve might also sell these cubes at a loss, but people will buy games on steam where they take 30% cut so they will make money back.

>>725673583
Just plug the wire into the matching hole, kiddo.

>>725673963
Pcbros already sucking it off in multiple threads

>>725672405
>it's for normies that only use phones / consoles and never went into PC gaming because it's "too nerdy" or they are scared of building a PC.

Steam releasing a cube wont change their minds because its not a playstation
Those people dont buy things that arent a playstation. Or sometimes an xbox

>>725670602 (OP)
Considering how the Steam Deck is the cheapest in its class of devices, I expect the GabeCube to be very competitively priced.
Valve are not retards, they know they're trying to entice the traditionally console crowd, and I think they can eat a decent chunk of the console market share.
PSN/GamePass are not cheap any more, Steam has over 150 million active users, a ton of people have a Steam backlog already.

>>725671974
I'm very tempted.
I was planning to spend 500 EUR to upgrade my GPU (from 5700 XT to 9060 XT) and CPU (R5 3600 to R7 5700X), I might not bother now.

>>725674193
Those aren't even pcbros if they can't comprehend why something using last gens architecture and 8GB of RAM is fucking DOA, especially if it runs linux and pays the 10%-20% performance proton tax

>>725671974
I game on a 5-year-old laptop with integrated graphics.

>>725673757
Average faggot born between 1980 and 2000:
Insufferable white whating negro lovers who support tranny rights and millions of doctors and engineers coming to Europe.

>>725674274
Hi shill, why would anyone buy this when it's weaker than a base PS5 instead of just buying a PS5?

>>725674027
>Valve might also sell these cubes at a loss
Yeah they fucking better, Valve profit margin is like 1 billion a year. Literally no execuse to not sell these at a massive loss and make up the rest with Steam sales anyway.

>>725674027
i just doubt it's worth valve's time to take the hit. phone companies literally lock you into a contract that guarantees them profitable revenue. sony and microsoft don't contractually lock you in like, that, but practically speaking they do since what the fuck are you going to play without paying for their online services. revenue streams also get less jagged the more individual sources you have, so it's easier to do the loss leader strategy if you know you're going to sell in the tens of millions rather than, like, maybe 5 million if the steam machine performs well

>>725674328
This is exactly why it's "outdated". Valve looked at all those hardware surveys and said damn these fuckers are all running on potatoes.

>>725670602 (OP)
><$400
lol in what universe your phone is 3 time that price pancho

>>725670602 (OP)
I don't need one. But I hope it sells fine by Valve's standards and the developers/publishers selling unoptimized, bloated shit start to panic even more. The graphicsfag humbling has been a long time coming

>>725674274
this. I see no reason for them to not sell this at a loss, especially if they really want to get in the console market. Sell it at a loss and get more people on Steam, which is where the real margins are.

>>725674357
>Gen Z starts at 1996 but he actually draws the line at 2000
Holy shit you must be a literal child. This is an 18+ website, sonny.

>>725674520
>I see no reason for them to not sell this at a loss
the law.

>>725671974
I'm more hyped about the controller and vr as I have three high end pcs and a gaming laptop but I might buy the gabe cube as a portable console setup, or just to have like I did with the steamdeck and gdp win. Also don't get a gdp win the novelty wears off fast.

>>725670602 (OP)
More like nobody cares about the price the average consumer has no fucking idea what this is.
They dont know if its a pc or a console, if it can run halo or forthnite, if it can run roblox or outlook.
Steam caters to steam users, steam users already have PCs that are atleast as strong as this shitbox thats pretty much just a steamdeck.

>>725674274
>I was planning to spend 500 EUR to upgrade my GPU (from 5700 XT to 9060 XT) and CPU (R5 3600 to R7 5700X), I might not bother now.
You are delusional for not upgrading to a far superior and future proof equipment so you can buy a fucking gimped machine. Pcbros are something else.

>Valve made the Gamecube 2
weird timeline

>>725674520
the reason not to sell at a loss, is that you lose money. it is, inherently, not something a company wants to do. it has to pretty directly lead to more money in other ways to be justifiable

>>725674645
>steam users already have PCs
>he hasnt seen the hardware survery data

>>725672256
Yeah all you just need to do is replace the GPU, CPU, RAM, motherboard, PSU, and case.

>>725674794
Nigga the people running shitboxes are from regions this thing wont even sell at

>>725670602 (OP)
this is going to cost like 800 with the current ram prices

Valve doesn't even oficially sell hardware in third world countries which could be the market that wants last gen's hardware.

>>725670982
I'm amazed at how often you retards say something completely wrong with such confidence.

>>725674904
Valve has been selling hardware in the USA for years.

>>725674771
They sold the Steam Deck at a loss. Valve is not a company beholden to retarded shareholders.

>>725674645
>They dont know if its a pc or a console, if it can run halo or forthnite, if it can run roblox or outlook.
The answer is yes.

>>725675021
we do not know if they sold the deck at a loss. we know that gaben described getting the price point down to one that would work for the handheld market as "painful", but that's it

>selling hardware when everyone is moving to digital only
Bad move. Nowadays is all about that sweet cloud gaming and streaming. Nobody cares about plastic anymore.

>>725674816
So what pc gamers have been doing since the very beginning? This gabecube is permanently crippled with shit parts.

>>725674874
>current ram prices
If Volvo has any sense they would have locked in supplier contract long before the price hikes.

Tranny device

>>725674996
valve is an american company and you have given them hundreds if not thousands

>>725674645
It's 2025 and this releases in 2026. The modern day consumer understands computers much better than you give them credit

>>725670602 (OP)
>8gb VRAM
yikes but also cringe
>>725671000
>measuring emulation capability in tflops
stay retarded
>it's nearing the PS5 in terms of power
incel cope

>>725674771
didn't every console this gen start selling or is selling at a loss? and the same goes for generations prior?

consoles are sold at a loss. the money is made from the games. Sony sold the PS4 at a loss at the start and by the end they had cornered the market.
I'm not introducing a new concept here, this isn't rocket science, it's just how the business is run

>>725675395
>The modern day consumer understands computers much better than you give them credit
So they wont buy it because its outdated hardware sold at a premium with an OS you can download right now?

>>725674548
anon... kids from 2007 are 18 now. and next year it'll be 2008. you know what else is that old? the fucking ps3

>>725673613
along with hating pc, I'm not really one for handhelds either. Own a switch and psvita (both with docks for tv), but rarely pick either up to play. Is there a dock for steamdeck that's just plug in and play?

>>725674382
Compare the games you can play on the gamecube to the games you can play on PS5. I won't suggest a ratio, due to the obvious problem.

>>725675132
>we do not know if they sold the deck at a loss
>gaben described getting the price point down to one that would work for the handheld market as "painful"
You have autism.

>>725670602 (OP)
If its 500 bucks, I’ll pick one up. If its fucking 2k, there’s no fucking point. You can just buy a alienware and install linux on that shit and it would have significantly better specs.

>>725670602 (OP)
It's going to use a (probably custom) rx 7400 as the GPU so it's not going to have strong performance. Wouldn't be surprised if it launched at $499 with Valve making almost no profit from the sales

>>725675490
nintendo literally never sells at a loss, they refuse to

>>725670776
Nothing can, there aren't any emulators

>steam machine
>doesnt produce steam

>>725670776
In seriousness it probably won't:
A lot of Switch 2 games will use proprietary nvidia stuff, like DLSS and RT, which may require some serious hacky solutions.

>>725675547
there are multiple ways to get your price point down and all of them are painful

>>725675638
anime sucks cope and sneed

>>725674382
My PC is also weaker than a base PS5 (which I also own), but I still play most games on it.


>>725674646
If Valve can sell me a whole PC for the price of a mid-range GPU I'll go with that, call me a shill if you want.
The 9060XT would have been 200-250 EUR in saner times, it still has an 8GB SKU and uses a 128-bit memory bus ffs.
My GeForce 5900 XT (don't laugh I was an Nvidia fanboy) in 2004 had a 256-bit memory bus, my GeForce 760 from 2013 had a 256-bit bus for under 200 EUR.

>>725675564
>500 bucks
I would not even buy this dogshit device for 500 bucks. It even uses a 2230 SSD, so the maximum storage for this thing is 2TB MAX. Valve will release this at 400 bucks for me to give a shit.

What the hell is this. Some plug and play console but PC?

steam frame will be $1,500

>>725671974
I bet it's aiming at poor people and third world countries where they are using some 10 year old shitbox that barely plays anything

>>725675564
>If its 500 bucks, I’ll pick one up.
Are you fucking stupid anon? Why would you pick up a $500 device in 2026 that is significantly weaker than a base PS5 which was released in 2020 and cost $400 THEN for the digital edition?

>>725675756
yea

>>725675517
i mean you just put it in the dock and play, i don't understand how it could be more plug & play than that

>>725670602 (OP)
>Comes with VR.
>Is slightly above mid range.
Yeah, its going to be overpriced shit.

>>725675748
what do you need more than 2tb for? is your kiddie porn folder really larger than that? or are you, allah forbid, playing modern AAA games?

>>725673171
Valve can't risk with the idea of selling at lost because thare are a chance of his playerbase of pirating everything
>>725673417
Yeah, these normies games are gonna be a very big obstacle, but l believe valve can take the xbox place if they don't mess around the price.

>>725675748
The SSD is easily swapped and has space for the longer SSDs

>>725675838
It doesnt come with VR, VR headsaet is a separate thing with its own dongle and everything

>>725675810
Docking on steam deck is shit, you usually have to restart the game because the aspect ratio is different and the steamos compositor can't handle that without restarting the game. On switch everything just gets immediately automatically adjusted to docked mode, including the resolution and the game switches to higher graphics setting.

>>725673417
Yeah this shit sounds completely retarded. If the GPU was 2x better it would maybe make sense.

>>725675748
>It even uses a 2230 SSD
It supports 2280 retard

>>725673417
Almost like if Valve been developing Proton specifically for this

>>725670602 (OP)
This has to just be cheaper than the PS5 and Xbox One Juan X and it will sell.

It's for normgroid tards.

>>725675918
yeah the killer app for this thing is game storage and local game transfer for the Deck. Just buy a larger SSD for the Machine and download all your games to it and you can use it for local transfer whenever you want to put a game on the Deck. Auto preload any preordered games, etc. pretty smart

>>725675810
docking is terrible, it takes an extra wire, the resolution is shitty, everything looks weird so you have to readjust it. If it was as seemless as it is with the Switch then it would be worth it

>>725671974
>Who is this for?
Me, everything Valve make is specifically for me.
>handheld that let me play HoMM in a train without turning into micro-sun
>wireless VR set with out of the box linux support
>controller that is like deck but without the screen
>funbox PC for the living room in the same price bracket as the Deck
Wait for them to disclosure their robot line which will be just little robot girls driving roombas around the house.

>>725676173
i do genuinely enjoy being the target consumer when it happens

>>725673417
>No disc reader, so competing with PS5 Digital
I don't think you understand Steam's raison d'être...

>>725676161
Killer app is something that everyone wants, not something that nobody wants

>>725673092
true that unc

I think people underestimate just how much Valve can tank on these cubes to make it work. They have basically a complete monopoly over PC games, with 30% cut from each sale + their steam services/market. Infinite money printer.

so this device is for all those people who want to play those junk low effort steam games such as "Laser Star Fighter" and "Haunted House simulator" ?

>>725676406
People can only buy games this shit can run.
That means 1 dollar shovelware

>>725673417
>Can't run FIFA/NBA2k/Madden
>Can't run Battlefield
>Can't run Call of Duty
>Can't run Fortnite
Aren't all these games on PC? Why wouldn't it run them?
>Can't even buy games on launch because you don't know if it will be compatible with Steam meme OS
There's a massive list of games that work on SteamOS thanks to the Deck
>512 GB on base model. Next model is 2 TB which will be a costly upgrade
You can just buy a 8TB SSD and swap it in if you want
>No disc reader, so competing with PS5 Digital
I haven't used a disc in over a decade, when even is the last time a PC game was sold on a disc?
>Weak specs
The only true part of your post

I was really hoping it would be PS5 Pro level for the same price as a PS5 Pro but be a PC
Instead it's some shitbox for Brazilians

>>725670982
What does ARM have that x86-64-v4 doesn't?

>>725671315
I'll take that as a "no"

>>725670675
It's designed (like Steam Deck) to act as a price anchor so prebuilt companies can't rip people off as hard

>>725676406
yes but people are also underestimating how hard consoles are shitting the bed with their pricing right now. sneedbox doesn't even need to be that cheap to be competitive

>>725676562
>Aren't all these games on PC? Why wouldn't it run them?
They don't run on SteamOS, idiot. And if you install Windows on this shitbox, you lose the seamless console experience and will have to hook up a keyboard and mouse which completely defeats the purpose.

>>725676538
Where do yall get it from? Isnt it roughly on the same level as the ps5? If its gonna be cheaper than one two, theres literally zero reason for PS and Xbox to exist

>>725670602 (OP)
>buying a PC with 8GB of VRAM in 2025
it's a scam at any price tho

>>725676538
You think a 4060 can only run shovelware? Are you retarded by chance?

>>725671758
Can’t you use steam link?

>>725672721

$300 is never gonna happen everybody who posts this is deluded, it's switch 2/ps5/xbox series x pricing at minimum, but better in that it has no monthly.

This things gonna be $599, maybe $499, headsets gonna at least be that, I expect maybe $999/$1199 for everything in a bundle, headset, console, controller.

Console 500
Headset 700
Controller 100

Some wiggle room, perhaps the headset will suprise and drop at 600

>>725676740
Watch the DF video. It's quite a bit weaker than the base PS5.

Regardless, Microsoft must be shitting their pants

dont worry guys. the steam machine, too, is an xbox :)

So is this a steam deck in a box or more powerful?

>>725676702
>They don't run on SteamOS
For now, Proton exists, and been in active development for years now, they definetly prepare some massive updates to that to go with the box

>>725676765
>>725676740
There are already videos about its performance plus for anything non linux native its running through proton or whatever.
Its SHIT.

>>725676797
Switch 2 pricing is the only way this thing will succeed in a substantial way

>>725676846
Between steam deck and base PS5

>>725675698
>RT is proprietary
This is your brain on novideo

>>725672721
the funniest part here is shilling this piece of shit as if they were actually PC players. imagine someone playing on PC and shilling a platform that you can't actually upgrade

>Weaker than PS5
>Also can't play anti-cheat games so stuff like Battlefield 6 and Arc Raiders is out of the question

I'm a leaf and PS5s are $580 here. If it's anything more than $500 it's fucking dead. This is clearly marketed towards poorfag normies who don't know how to build PCs and also can't afford pre-builts, but if it's weaker than the current console generation then there's no reason for them to switch. And we're also halfway through this console gen so the cube will be even more outdated in a few years.

Buying it just to grow old and play ranked AoE2:DE in the living room with a comfy fire going.

>>725676924
It is in Indiana Jones and Doom Dark Ages

>>725673883

I'm happy, it's an upgrade from my index without being Facebook.

>>725676872
You really don't get it retard, these online games have Windows specific kernel level anticheat, it will never work with nigtron

>>725676797
>This things gonna be $599, maybe $499, headsets gonna at least be that, I expect maybe $999/$1199 for everything in a bundle, headset, console, controller.
>Console 500
>Headset 700
>Controller 100
Thanks for basically saying this is DOA. Literally no excuse for Valve to price these at way lower prices since they make billions of dollars in revenue every damn year. Gaben should sink in his shitty fucking yacht for being a greedy kike.

>>725676875
So you don't know what shovelware is. Alright, retarded. Got it

>>725673070
>the idea of doing something that is already possible is very attractive to me
kek

>>725676924
i mean he's kinda right if the emulation for the switch 2 needs it + dlss rt is still better

>>725676979
That is not remotely true in any way

>>725676702
>do a quick google
>these games don't work because they want full control of your computer in the name of anti-cheat
>games still infested with cheaters
lol, not even worth playing so Steam is doing a favor to you by not wasting your money on shit games

>>725677034
You just described valve drones

>>725677065
Oh I read mandatory
Might as well be propriety too how much AMD shit sucks at it

>>725670602 (OP)
An e-celeb tech tuber claimed that when he asked the Valve employees they said it would cost as much as "an entry level PC"

>>725676807
But how bespoke is it?

>>725677034
how do i do it then

>>725674794
this is mildly better than the average PC on the hardware survey AND it can't be upgraded. what is even the point?

>>725673963

The steam deck has 4gb vram basically, this isn't designed to compete with a fucking 5080 for 1k, it's designed to compete with a base ps5 xbox series x but have no online costs.

Game pass ultimate costs like $350 a year now, this thing at 500-600 is a game changer.

You want cyberpunk at 1440p high (no rt) using fsr this will do it.

>>725676126
>webm
KEK

>>725677157
easy $4k

>>725677209
It's literally just for millennial valve drones who want a secondary PC for "le comfy sofa experience"

>>725677209
>what is even the point?
It's probably going to be really cheap

>>725676807
>Watch the DF video
those niggers are sony shills tho (yes even the gay dude that calls himself a PCMR). their opinion is invalid

>>725674874

Doesn't understand they probably fabbed like half a million of these already.

It's gonna be 500-600 and it's worth it, I'm pre ordering just like the steamdeck

>>725677258
>this thing at 500-600 is a game changer.
Is it really though? The PS5 is still stronger and can actually play online competitive games.

>>725670602 (OP)
is it better than this shit I made like 2 years ago?

>>725677196
just plug your PC on the tv and boot steam. it's quite literally what this machine will do

>>725670602 (OP)
I am interested in what kind of copium people are huffing to think this can be produced under 400 bucks in this economy. Look at current PC prices (especially RAM and SSD) and tell me how it can be done.

>>725677393
Kekmao, every butthurt faggot that tries to defend shit hardware says stupid shit like this without backing it up with anything. You're just like switch toddlers. DF always bases everything on data and facts. Cry more valve nigger.

>>725676807
Zen 4 is massively faster than Zen 2, the GPU is still a lot faster than what most people are using according to the Steam Hardware Survey results - the 3060 is the most popular GPU, lots of people run laptop 4050/4060-s, even the RX480/580 is still kicking and about 3% suffer with a 1650.
Complaining about the specs at this point is retarded, if the console is cheap like the steam deck you'll be getting a lot for your money, if it's expensive then we can all laugh at Valve then cry at the state of PC gaming and the insane prices for components.

I hope it's like $399 so I can watch the haters mald while trying to come up with a reason why it's bad

This things a Series S competitor so it can’t be too much. It’s aiming at the low cost of entry to get people into the ecosystem if they are smart. Obviously no reason to get one if you already game on pc this should be aimed to pull those in limbo from Xbox and PlayStation.

I can't wait for the poverty mentality people to come into stuff I enjoy and insert their poverty opinions because "I dont have time to game I have a job"

>>725677471
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY A PS5!!!!!
Eat shit

I don't like it solely because it reminds me of the Ouya

>>725676979
>Indiana Jones and Doom Dark Ages
Oh so in straight trash. Got it.

>>725677454
>online competitive games.
>on consoles
Sorry, but CoD and Battlefield are not competetive games, and Fortnite literally runs on phones

>>725677151
The only RT game I've played is quake 2 rtx and it worked fine on Vega 56 let alone a card with hw rt

>>725670602 (OP)
>less VRAM than the Shitch 2
lmao

>>725676807
in raw power it's between series S and PS5 but PC games are not optimized like console games so performance should be a lot worse

>>725677463
Nope. It's much weaker, lol.

>>725677381
my dude, for the specs unless it's $200 they're ripping you off. you're much better off getting a regular PC that you can increment over time rather than being caged in that ecosystem. not only that but the specs are subpart for 2025

>>725670602 (OP)
ooofff
how is artifactfag taking this?

>>725670776
on the switch 2 emulation front, they're yet to figure out how to dump games...

>>725670602 (OP)
hehe jewcube

>>725677513
Most people already have a PC at least this performance and/or a PS5, that's why it's bad.

>>725672405
Building a PC is too damn expensive for a system that will get ports made by jeets and with Denuvo.

I'm really liking this trend of mass produced pre-built PCs by giants of the industry, Valve is already in the race and I hope the next Xhoc is like this too. Best of both worlds, freedom of PC and optimization and comfort of a console.

If the price is around an "entry level PC" as they say, it is a dead console.

>>725677463
no

>>725677702
the cpu and gpu alone are worth over $200, USED

>>725677504
GPU is like 100, CPU is around the same. 512gb ssd is like what, 50 at most? Ram even at double prices would be like 50. At $400 they would probably be breaking even which might be all they need

>>725671974
console fags, they have to be tard wrangled into the right direction so that sony, microsoft and nintendo can finally stop acting like controlling pyschos

It's going to be $199 and everyone is getting one. Can't wait.

>>725677657
I was implying anti-cheat games actually. If you want the normie audience you need to give them an option to play Fortnite/CoD/Arc Raiders.

>>725670602 (OP)
I wish PC engine and turbografix made a comeback instead

>>725670602 (OP)
There is no way in hell its gonna be cheaper than $800 + tax + tariff+ tip.

>>725677865
Wrong. Its going to cost the last 3 digits of my post.

>>725678012
nice

>>725673417
If Xbox is pulling out of the console business why wouldn't they make sure CoD works on the cube? If they take too long, why wouldn't EA want to tap into a market that Microsoft is overlooking by making sure their products work on steamdeck and therefore steambox?

>Cant run fortnite
Fortnite will never come to steam, but fortnite is also losing it's cultural relevance. Roblox would be a bigger draw, and they already don't support linux natively. But they also don't NEED steam, so thats a nonstarter as well.

>>725677761
This is for the poorfags who can't afford a good PC. Comparing it to a PS5 makes no sense since the pool of games is FAR superior on PC, it's like saying the Switch is going to flop because it loses to a PS5 in performance

>>725677831
GPU is a downgraded 7600 which would definitely costs more than 100.
That ram is around 100, it's honestly cute that you think ram can be still acquired around those prices.
There is also the mobo which is at least 100
There is also psu+cooling+case
It's IMPOSSIBLE to cram it under 400, or even 500

>>725676572
good thermals.
that alone will cause the laptop and server market to transition to arm

>>725677891
make sure to schedule your prostate check

>>725677506
a small reminder that they basically defended the shit show that is pic related

But can it run fitgurl repacks? There's the million dollar question. DOA if the answer is no.

>>725678085
You think the majority of gamers care about the thousands of trash indies that crop up? Or want to play decade old games.

>>725678172
Reminder that businesses, especially at the scale of valve don't buy PC parts at retail prices but at way cheaper B2B long term contracts.

>>725677584
>you don't need to buy a shitty PC to plug on your tv, you can do that to any PC
>S-SHUT UP SONY SHILL
keep rimming Gabe then you retard

>>725678172
>There is also the mobo which is at least 100
Ok mobo is probably some heavily customized crap where they cut everything unnecessary out so it might cost somewhat below 100.
But I stand by what I said otherwise.

>>725678187
Would you kindly show me the numbers?

I doubt the difference in thermals is that huge between one and the other

>>725678172
What you are missing is that Valve doesn't pay consumer prices for these parts

>>725677801
>>725677678
Damn people are really getting slop machines then it should be cheap at least.

>>725678172
and there is RND, dev support, refund budget,delivery etc etc

>>725678293
>>725678347
It's like say %20 deal if you agree to buy a lot in bulk, it's there to help margins, it won't change the pricing too drastically.

>>725678330
Don't you have a phone? Those fuckers are ARM and don't need active cooling despite running some games that have fairly good graphics

>>725678012
LETS FUCKING GO

>>725677803
but the point is that they're shitty specs. you shouldn't but shitty specs for more than $200

>>725670675
'ock on 'box

>>725678191
just got a clean bill :)

>>725670602 (OP)
Entry level PCs are like $800. If it's anything under $700 it'll sell like hotcakes, if it's really 4060 tier.

>>725678489
20% is enough to push it under 400. Valve also doesn't have to give anyone else a cut of the sale because they sell it directly to customers unlike almost everyone else selling hardware

>>725678330
too lazy for numbers but just look at apple's arm cpus. it's fucking magic

>>725677702
Can I buy some components from your alternative reality because over here a mid range GPU is over 300 EUR and RAM doubled in price recently?

>>725678358
even if it's cheap the specs are pretty abysmal for 2025 (let alone 2026 when it actually comes out). at any price you're getting ripped off

>>725670776
Emulation isn't happening until it's hacked. And definitively powerful enough once it's out.

>>725677891
I played wow on linux 7 years ago, before proton was a thing, and that was on an underpowered craptop too. Pretty sure modern machines and software can handle it fine.

>>725678643
It's rx 7400 tier, uses the same architecture and same amount of CUs

>>725670602 (OP)
>$400
Retarded take.
Truth is if its $700 its a console killer.

If its $1000 it will slowly gain traction but wont be able to run consoles out.

>FSR 3
lmao

>>725676979
RT is not the same as RTX. And you can even run Indiana Jones on cards that doesn't support RT at all under Linux.

>>725678774
>Emulation isn't happening until it's hacked.
Where does this come from? Its a PC, all you need to do is install windows on it, same way it is done on Deck

>>725678774
I doubt it can even emulate the Switch all that well

>>725671974
its about making people's steam libraries useful and accessible in different contexts. i use my deck as a games console with my tv but it's underpowered; this may be a better solution.

>>725678835
2060 Super isn't bad either depending on the price. But reviewers are saying it's 4060 tier so maybe there's some secret sauce there.

>>725678721
yeah dude go buy the pre built PC using an extremely low amount of VRAM and 2020 technology. also that on top of that can't be upgraded. good luck having to buy an entire PC again in two years. you're better off getting an actual PC even if you pay $400 more now

>>725677471
what if my pc is a huge ugly box and it's rooms away from my tv? let me guess, one big cable?

>>725678916
Switch 2 getting hacked, retard.

>>725678925
Are you retarded? Even phones can emulate Switch well nowadays.

Just buy the retroid pocket 6

>>725678994
>maybe there's some secret sauce there
Yeah, it's called Linux

>>725673092
incel lego

>>725671974
People that want to play the PC games on living room tv but don't want a big PC there.
People that don't won a PC gamer yet or have a weaker PC.

In the IGN interview with Valve's engineers they said they aimed for the cube to be able to play any game at 4k 60fps, but with upscaling from 1080p. IGN also showed some cyberpunk gameplay footage from the cube, and it looked totally playable.

I'm gonna buy one and use it as my router

>>725671974
I might get one. My PC is getting old and I refuse to upgrade to W11, so getting this and just using it as my new PC seems like a good idea. I just need to find out if it can run Photoshop CS6 and 3DSMax 2020

>>725679140
Nah, even AMD under Linux is only around ~10% best case scenario. Maybe they are using some pseudo RDNA3+ or something like that.

I hope consolrfags try this thing out and get whitepilled on good customer service and having a device that isn't locked down by greedy scam artists.

>>725679202
>looked totally playable.

>>725670776
switch 1 can emulate switch 2

if this is cheap i'll buy it just to play mid tier games on my 65" oled

If this has first party exclusives than Xbox and PlayStation are cooked frfr. They would win so hard if they launched with HL3, TF3, Portal 3, and Ricochet 2

>>725679072
KVM via ethernet, something like a Steam Link or just Sunshine+Moonlight

>>725679280
They could be giving it more power and running higher clocks

>>725670602 (OP)
This is essentially another console but much weaker than the PS5 and has no exclusives lke the Switch does. Who is this for? PCfags will reject it because you can't upgrade it and consolefags will reject it because they are already heavily invested in Playstation's/Xbox's/Nintendo's ecosystems.

>>725670602 (OP)
Where do you put the games in? Does it use DVDs or cartridges?

>>725679412
It already has exclusives, every game that released only on PC

>>725679072
>is a huge ugly box
I'd recommend stop being gay and simply putting it where you want to play. imagine being such a faggot that you care if something like this looks "ugly"

>>725679439
How exactly are consolefags "heavily invested" in any ecosystem? They are buying same games every year anyway, what difference does it make if you do this on a dofferent machine enxt year?

>>725679483
lmao

>>725679439
>Who is this for?
Gullible freetards.

>>725679483
lol

>>725679439
>weaker than PS5
not if it's actually 4060 tier
and anyone who wants a console that can play PC e-sports/MMORPGs + PS5 + Xbox + older games

>>725679483
It uses magic, you buy a game from steam and it just works

>>725679043
So not only are components reasonably priced, but Zen 4 and RDNA 3 released in 2020 where you live, I'm jealous!

I'm super hyped for this thing, been wanting a small desktop PC that I can plug into my tv for a while.
If it's more than 600 buck tho I ain't buying it, Fuck that.

Tbh it seems a bit underpowered for the price.

>>725678868
lol
lmao even

>>725679439
>consolefags will reject it because they are already heavily invested in Playstation's/Xbox's/Nintendo's ecosystems
How so? They have to buy everything all over again every generation. Meanwhile on Steam you can have games from all platforms but Nintendo, from all generations at any time.

>>725679582
nah anon is right. PCs are hideous to have in a living room. you clearly don't have sex.

>>725679439
It's 4060 tier. It's stronger than the PS5. I don't care what DF shills say about PS5 power. It's not 4060 tier.

>>725679732
>Meanwhile on Steam you can have games from all platforms but Nintendo
And if you emulate you get all games from Nintendo up to the Switch

I heard that Gabe had 2 trannies showcase this thing, is that true?

>>725679640
enjoy eating the scraps from gaben's asshole. I hope he shits a little more so you won't go hungry

>>725679801
Havent seen any tranies, there were jeets tho

>>725679801
@grok is this tru

>>725679801
I heard you had sex with 2 trannies, is that true?

>>725679801
>>725677585

>>725679746
just stop being a faggot and this "problem" magically disappears

>>725676572
not being a duopoly sounds like a pretty good.
Also much better power efficiency

>>725679589
Backwards compatibility and libaries. Same reason steamfags stick with steam because no one wants to rebuy all their games on another platform

>>725679589
unfortunately, one's snoy/xbot/N game libraries aren't accessible through steam

>>725679629
>>725679759
imagine actually believing anything IGN says

>>725677702
>the 7500f and 4060 aren't good in 2025
You are psychotic

>>725679759
Do they? I'm pretty sure they settled on 2070 tier. The Pro one is between 4060-4070

>>725679923
She's wearing a ring, not a trannie most probably.
Just on the uglier side and bad camera angle.

>>725678798
>7 years ago
the apes working at blizzard absolutely fucked the engine which doubled the system requirements despite everything still looking like dogshit

> just get a PS5 bro
You guys will never get it.

>>725679801
>>725665349
yes

>>725670602 (OP)
I'm actually kinda hyped for this. I wonder how much it'll cost.

>>725677702
$200 won't buy you 16GB of RAM today, fucktard

>>725680097
enjoy 8gb of VRAM and RDNA 3 in 2025

>>725680253
>AI slop search
Why are Valve cultists like this?

>>725671974
I don't have a PC but I have a PS5, a Switch 2 and a Steam Deck. I'll be buying it as a Halo machine and for emulation on my 4K TV.
My Deck will go upstairs to play in bed. Hopefully it supports streaming like it currently does with PC.

Sir, how can I build a PC with the lowest power consumption that can run on a 450-watt powerline and have a low-profile modern eGPU that draws 35 watts post pcpartpicker

>>725679801
It's on the store page
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steammachine

>>725680021
The PS4 and Switch had zero backwards compatibility yet still sold great. Most buyers really don't give much of a shit about it.

>>725679801
These 2? Just a couple of lesbian fellows.

>>725680295
>>725680337

>>725680025
Again, since when do consolefags care? You get new generation of consoles, you need to buy your fifas and call of dutys which is what 99% of console users play exclusively all over again anyway, in addition to paying for the ability to connect to wi-fi

I WILL be buying the Steam controller, Steam Machine, and Steam Frame all in one bundle the moment it's released and NOBODY CAN STOP ME!

These days a midrange pc needs 2k at a minimum.
/v/ros I am not ready, the prices are gonna increase more.

>>725670602 (OP)
So, is this thing like a PC, but a console?. Also has VR?. Playing Rogue Squadron in first person VR sounds like fun, but not enough when i already have a PC.

>>725680417
Thanks, my current GPU is 6GB and it's fine for 1080p under Linux.

>>725670602 (OP)
why did they model it after the muslim kaaba?

>>725680543
It’s just a Linux pc, the vr headset is a different product

Am I reading this right, the VR headset can be used for non VR games?
That would be fucking amazing, wanna replay FEAR and other old kino games that way.

Day 1, what about you guys?

>>725680543
VR is a separate product, it has its own hardware, but you are supposed to plug a wireless dongle into a PC for the VR thing

>>725680543
It's a console that PCs. VR is the Steam Frame thing.

>>725671974
Me. I’m poor.

>>725680395
PS4 was the era when digital purchases became way more common. Nowadays, you have normfags with almost a hundred or more games since 2013 so needless to say they don't want to throw all that away. Also, the Switch had a ton of games like Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild which were system sellers.

>>725680628
LMAO

>>725680713
Who else would you expect to play a 2d platformer?

>>725680809
;^)

>>725680713
>page full of troons and nogs
>page unironically uses y'all
i might just pass on it from these alone

>>725672538
They don't need to make money on console sales when they own the digital store. It's the reason Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and even Sega sold consoles at a loss because they more than made up for that in software sales.

>>725680713
who else would you expect to have boughted a steam deck?

>>725670602 (OP)
>casual family member gets PS5
>has to buy games one by one for it
>casual family member gets steam cube
>can family share a colossal steam library to it

>>725670602 (OP)
>SIXTEEN TIMES THE DETAIL.
>SIXTEEN TIMES THE RETAIL PRICE.
I'm buying one next year while I visit the cum zone for the soccer championship.

>>725677504
The Japan-exclusive PS5 that was just released is selling for the equivalent of $355, tax included.
I don't think it's too far out there. Valve also don't have shareholders bitching in their ears and are more than wealthy enough to sell the Steam Machine as a loss leader.

>>725680823
the people valve is advertising to I guess

>>725680340
Do you dispute the points in question?

There is no way in hell it will cost $400, RETARDS. It's going to be $600-$800 minimum. Valve is just losing money if it's anything less than $600, possibly $500 and that is a stretch. They're not going to offer PC gaming like that for $300, and certainly not $500.

>people buy steam machine
>steam os usage increases
>devs are encouraged to support linux
>microsofts hold on the pc market weakens
based

>>725671747
>6x more powerful
are you fucking retarded

>>725680713
2 beautiful roses.

>>725672190
The steam frame is flawed for PCVR and price (unless they surprise us with it being $500 VERY UNLIKELY, this is probably $1k based on the specs since it is a very good upgrade compared to the index if it was wired).
I would highly suggest a Pimax crystal light if you care about Price and PCVR (goes up to 120hz because it has a direct displayport connection to your GPU). And the Crystal Super if you really want the best resolution and you have a lot of money (needs a 5090 for the best experience).
If you want fully body VRchat, I would suggest going with the original index or if you have a lot of money, get the bigscreen beyond 2 + the required index controller + base stations, and note the eye tracking (note that I think you could get full body tracking with a webcam, but I don't own a vr headset or play vrchat so I dunno). eyetracking also needs to be considered (but this goes outside the $1k budget).
If you want wireless (and the limitations for PCVR quality) + cheap and you don't mind signing in with facebook, I would suggest the occulus quest 3s (you might as well call it the quest 2, the quest 3 is a direct upgrade).
This compares the headsets.
https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=dC53TrTC0&h2=w8xCM-oPA&h3=6nd6PhR_A&h4=0jLuwg808-j&h5=HYDBLMvbu

>>725670602 (OP)
That's pretty much the deal with all the steam hardware.
>controller
Cool but it's only real adv over 3rd party $40 controllers is the trackpad.
Max $50
>machine
It's just a microATX PC with an integrated GPU you can buy from any 3rd party OEM and install steamOS on it yourself
Max $350
>frame
Still no VR gaems lmao, may be cool if cheap though.
Max $400

>>725680996
>$800 minimum
More.

>>725679280
>Nah, even AMD under Linux is only around ~10% best case scenario.
Best case is like 20% but that requires an optimized native app which almost don't exist and on regular desktops with random linux setups inevitably has weird issues.

>>725670602 (OP)
insider here: its $649 for the base model

>>725680919
Sony is obviously selling the japanese PS5 at a loss because they want to recoup the market they lost to Nintendo.
And besides, the 55k yen price is already more than the original price they put when it was released (50k)

>>725681134
inside of what

>>725681210
Your mother

>>725681057
>frame
the best part about it so far seems to be in-built camera tracking without need to play with these fucking poles at the corners of the room to track you.
Also, Frame is basically a phone, it has built in snapdragon and you can load android apps on it.
+ it has built in eye tracking on lenses

>>725680885
You can game share on PS5 and you can borrow disks, get smart.

>>725680713
Would it kill you people to not freak out over the mere presence of a trans person? That just gives them power over you, you know.

>>725681275
AAAAIIIIEEEEEE

If I don't care about graphics, why wouldn't someone get the gabecube?
If they do care about graphics, why wouldn't they get a real PC?

The age of the console is over. It just doesn't make any sense in a post-exclusive world.

>>725676950
arc raiders has worked on proton since day one

a rx9070XT still costs $400 in my country and that alone would probably be comparable to the steam machines performance just for a GPU if what valve showed it playing is true.
anything up to $800 would be a pretty good deal imo, provided you can use it freely as just a bog standard linux pc to.

>>725681438
if you care about performance you should care about specs

>>725680862
It's not a closed system. Console manufacturers can sell at a loss because people will have to buy games from them, meanwhile someone who buys a steam box can pirate or use alternate stores or even not use it for gaming at all because it's a pc. Selling at a loss isn't viable.

Its competing with Steam Deck and Deck is a more complete package, even if its more powerful.

>>725681404
>they can... gameshare someone's extensive PS5 library... one game at a time
>they can.... fucking walk a disk over one game at a time...
What fucking century do you live in? If someone in my family gets a steamcube they get access to every game I've bought on steam over the past 18 years.

>>725681610
how is it competing with the steam deck

>>725681438
If you don't care about graphics you're playing on mobile or already have machine that run what you want.

>>725681057
The frame will be 800-1000

>>725670602 (OP)
Will this be a good Xbox replacement?

If it's cheap enough and can be more of a PC than a console (go on youtube with some form of adblocker), I'd be half tempted to get one just for the convenience of having a nice media player/emulator box for my tv.

>>725678696
>Introduced 1985; 40 years ago
wtf
what were they waiting for if it's so good?

>>725680996
>Valve is just losing money
That's fine, they make so much fucking money from lootboxes anyway. They can afford it or else they're cheap kikes.

>>725681729
probably depends on what you use your xbox for

>>725681576
>if you care about performance
Graphics.
>you should care about specs
Which means buying a real PC and not a console.
>>725681709
>or already have machine that run what you want
The point of this is to be the new machine for that purpose

>>725681590
>It's not a closed system.
hardware wise it is

>>725681785
>these people are very good at making money, and for that reason i believe they will choose to lose money

>>725681590
It is viable when the vast majority of people who play on PC won't touch a game if it's not on Steam. You can get a game on sale MUCH cheaper at somewhere like Epic Game Store or whatever thing EA used to run, but people won't touch that and would rather pay extra to get their game on Steam.
Yes you can have other game stores on SteamOS, but it's a pain in the arse to do and most regular people won't go through that.

>>725671974
I've had this same shitbox for 15 years, I was already planning to replace this whole damn thing so unless there's better options, I'll look into this Valveshitbox.

>"Semi-custom" AMD parts include an RDNA 3 GPU that appears to be a cut-down version of the RX 7600.
Lmao a cut-down version of a $250 mid-tier 1080p gpu.

>>725681056
>Steam frame is flawed
>I recommend the Pimax
I hope you're getting paid to look retarded.

>>725678330
You shouldn't need numbers to tell you that a reduced instruction set CPU will have much better thermals than an extended instruction set CPU.
The relevant numbers are in the performance, which these days with massive, highly multi-cored chips are pretty competitive.

>>725681667
Google is free.
"a user can access their entire digital library with game sharing on a PS5, including all downloaded games and PlayStation Plus benefits, by enabling "Console Sharing and Offline Play" on their friend's PS5. This allows the friend to access and download the games from the account holder's library, and both users can play simultaneously from their own accounts."

>>725670675

It's like Steam Deck... but for your TV/ TV adjacent monitor of choice. Steam Deck HD. I mean, it's OK for a Zen 4 Ryzen with six cores and twelve threads, it clocks up to 4.8GHz, RDNA 3 8GB DDR6 (what?! is it not GDDR6?) unit, 16GB DDR5 that will be up-gradable. You could put Windows 11 on it? I mean, not a bad proposition. It may as well be a micro PC with SteamOS pre-installed on the hard drive.

gonna buy it cause im not a poorfag

>>725675710
You’re a big guy

>>725670602 (OP)
Should've gone with Nvidia like Nintendo did. All because of Linux.

>>725671974
My steamdeck is docked to my living room TV 99% of the time.
Im going to sell my steamdeck soon and buy the SteamMachine on release.

>>725670602 (OP)
If it's cheap enough I'll probably buy one to act as a media center and retro-emulator to plug into my TV.

But that's ONLY if it's cheap enough. If it's more than 400 bucks then there are better options for my use case that cost less.

>>725681995
for Hugh

>>725681967
>You could put Windows 11 on it?
You can eat shit, but I have no idea why you would want to.

>>725681576
>Care about having super high performance => you buy an expensive pc
>Want to just play games and fine with mid graphic settings => you are better with steamcube
>You would buy a console because ???

But i must admit im biased, im a european zoomer, only place where i've seen people unironically own a console past xbox360 generation are hookah bars where they run fifas and cods all day

>>725681957
Last I checked you have to log into the owner's account to download games rather than getting download access like with steam.
This also doesn't change the PS5 having a tiny pitiful library that nobody on earth has a meaningful collection of games on.

>>725681804
performance and graphics are not the same thing

>>725679428
all a hassle, not just plugging and playing

>>725679582
>immediately gets triggered
sorry man, a big pc tower in the middle of the living room is fine. It's fine to just unplug it and take it from where I work to where I play and then back every day. It's as practical as just plugging a console and playing it on my tv.

>>725670602 (OP)
>8gb vram rdna3
You'll have to use FSR in 1080p with mid to low settings, I just don't see the point.

>>725681729
I believe that most xbros will just move over to the gabecube.

>valve literally just makes a micro ATX
>retards will buy it

>>725681873
If Valve are serious in making a difference in Linux marketshare just like what they did with the Steam Deck, then they'll have to sell this at a massive loss. They can make up for it with Steam game sales and lootboxes. If Gabe is pricing at higher than $399, then it's DOA, it's that simple. No one is gonna buy a gimped PC console where you can't even upgrade the fucking GPU.

>>725682081
One can be exchanged for the other freely.
The only reason any modern game doesn't run at thousands of FPS is the graphics.

>>725670602 (OP)
I bought my oled steamdeck for 700 dollars. I'll buy a steambox for 700

>>725682149
Things are so fucking dire in the PC gaming world, people are buying prebuilts looking for a deal.

If this thing is priced halfway decent, itll sell.
Its going for the midrange gaming market

>>725670602 (OP)
Nah, I'm good.

>>725682110
>FSR
FSR 4 would've been good, but it's stuck with FSR 3.1, which looks like shit.

>>725682084
>triggered
calling you a faggots means I'm triggered? holy kek we might have an actual homo here

>>725682149
blame AI for fucking the market

>>725681039
Valve official statement

>>725682174
You really do not understand the usecase or marketshare for this thing at all.
Nobody that isn't already buying a PC cares about being able to swap out the GPU.

>>725682110
I only play indie games

>>725682149
Isn't it Nano-STX at the size it is?

>>725682284
>people can't even use non-gay spectrums of color these days without chuds sperging out
I will never comprehend how people became this mindbroken

>>725680713
Can Americanons explain what the fuck is going on over there? I thought people would get bored of that stuff eventually.

>>725670802
you can 3D print a detachable faceplate :)

>>725670982
Ain't happening bro, the translation sucks for anything intensive.

>>725676572
You can license and customize it, that's all.

>>725678187
Nope, servers use ARM because they can just license the architecture and design their own multithreading behemoths. Laptops manufactures would love ARM since they wouldn't be stuck with Intel or AMD anymore, but Windows on ARM sucks because translating native x86 is slow as fuck.

>>725678330
>>725678696
That has nothing to do with the architecture, ifag. Apple is simply 2 nodes ahead the entire industry since they keep buying all the TSMC output. Every time AMD catches up with them they put out more mobile chips that are more efficient.

how will it be different from the time they tried to do the exact same thing a few years ago? There'll be no demand and they'll just silently can it...

>>725681932
What are your problems with it?
I heard about some manufacturing defects, but I don't believe it's for the Pimax Crystal, I think the defect news was more prevalent for the previous generations, unlike I am wrong?

>>725670602 (OP)
>The Media is already using this as an excuse to complain about Xbox
hardly suprised, they are always Pro-Sony millennials, if MS somehow stopped releasing consoles theyd move to shitting on Valve

>>725682063
>with mid graphic settings
anon the point here is that the valve shit cube will barely play things on minimum. just cash out a few more hundred dollars and get a proper PC

>>725672617
Just get her an M1

Okay, someone tell me if I'm wrong, but isn't this literally just a pre-built miniPC like this fucking thing that already exists, but with Valve branding slapped on and SteamOS pre-installed?

>>725682284
IS THAT BLUE, WHITE, YELLOW AND RED?! AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>725682505
that was 8 years ago

>>725682149
To be honest, prices are so fucked right now on the PC parts side, that if valve makes the cube cheap af people will buy it only to install windows and use it as a pc.

>>725672256

Are you neglecting the part where you can probably buy it with fake Steam funny money?

That's a reason alone to buy it, you could just sell it on if needed.

>>725682284
buck broken

>>725682192
You would think that wouldn't you? Meanwhile we have indie games that look like pixelshit and require hardware that AAA games used a few years ago.

>>725682435
For a single reason.

>>725682605
The average person (I.E. The market driving force) are subhuman, and need the machine to perform its task out of the box with 0 (ZERO) setup otherwise they get irrationally angry and start breaking things and shitting like lesser apes.

>>725682613
That was 15 years ago anon

>>725682192
not really. it doesn't matter how good the game looks but how well optimized the code is. if you have weak specs you can't get good performance no matter what if the game is not optimized

>>725682502
>he translation sucks for anything intensive.
Nigger you haven't used it
>You can license and customize it, that's all.
ARM having drastically lower power draw on equivalent tasks is not some myth you fucking retard
>That has nothing to do with the architecture
Nigger there is a smaller instruction set meaning less transistors required for a given operation meaning less power loss to heat. This is not some deep electronic wizardry it's just basic electronics. It has always been the entire purpose of ARM.

>>725682084
My TV has an Nvidia Shield connected by Ethernet. Bought it this year despite it already being a 6 year old product and I am so happy.
I have a controller connected to it, plus a wireless keyboard with a built-in track pad just in case I need it. But usually I only navigate with the controller.
I simply launch the Moonlight app, select Steam, it connects to my PC (wakes it from sleep if needed) and launches Big Picture mode. Works just like the PC was in the living room to begin with.

>>725682084
Steam Link is literally plug and play, so is Moonlight + Sunshine is also just install and play if your TV supports it. Anyway, you if you have a PC you don't care about plug and play shit, otherwise you'd have bought a console. You want to buy it for other reasons and that's ok, just don't cope.

>>725682308
Yeah, the whole thing is garbage. Only positive I could see is more work being done on linux and companies reverting their stances regarding anti cheat rootkits which don't even work on windows.
>inb4 I don't play these games
Me neither but they are the ones that sell the most.
>>725682368
If you only play indie games your toaster laptop should already run them and you can plug it into your TV via hdmi

>>725670602 (OP)
I'd bump that up to 600.

Anything over 600 is DOA.

>>725682579
The next Xbox is literally this with a different shape and more expensive.
PS6 will still be a closed platform.

>>725682725
>the reason is one or two spergs on twitter you've become obsessed with the ragebait of
beyond pathetic

>>725682354
>You really do not understand the usecase or marketshare for this thing at all.
You obviously don't, either. Why the fuck would anyone buy this when they can buy a base PS5 , a console from 5 years that is somehow still better than the Steam Machine? If this somehow costs the same or even more than the digital PS5 version, then Valve is not serious and are full of retarded leaders that don't know what the fuck they're doing.
>Nobody that isn't already buying a PC cares about being able to swap out the GPU.
Then they better make the price extremely competitive just like the Steam Deck.

>>725682873
Its not a "Closed platform" if you dont have exclusives to keep people in it

>>725673417
you are actually correct for once Pajeet, Normalfags really just want an easy way to play Sportsball,Fortnite,and Call of Duty, PCdeathfats literally don't understand this and just get mad when they buy a PlayStation or Xbox, the fact that it is using SteamOS is a death sentence, Normalfags dont want to worry about installing Windows, they just want something that works out of the box

>>725682605
It has a custom built GPU, with the steamOS software being optimized for it.
Yes its essentially a miniPC, but in theory itll have a lot more GPU headroom for the price than any other prebuilt or minipc in its price point.

If you havent been paying attention, the price of even midrange GPUs have made decently priced midrange PCs unobtainable.

That whole premise is how the steamdeck sold like hotcakes in the first place, at its release it was just powerful enough and the market was terrible

>>725682986
>Then they better make the price extremely competitive just like the Steam Deck.
and why wouldnt they be able to do this?
>If this somehow costs the same or even more than the digital PS5 version
Where the fuck do youpeople get all this information, we dont know the price yet

Any news about AMD Redstone?

>>725682740
Trust me I know, I worked at a PC repairs place for a little while, we raked in a ridiculous amount of money purely just doing OS installs/re-installs for people.

People really will just shell out 100 bucks to have you hit like one button and wait for half an hour.

>>725683039
sportsball plays fine on steamOS

>>725682986
>You obviously don't, either. Why the fuck would anyone buy this when they can buy a base PS5
Games. I know you're a diehard consolenigger so you don't get it, but most people buy hardware to play games. Not being a locked down retard cuckbox has value even to the most clueless normie, even if they don't understand the reason.
>Then they better make the price extremely competitive just like the Steam Deck.
That doesn't mean making it fucking $400 you delusional retard.

>>725670602 (OP)
>Instant success
So ~5 million sold lifetime? That's what Gabe calls a success. See steam deck.

>>725683289
that would be pretty good, yeah

>>725683082
I am aware yeah, fucking shit-ass AI datacenters have caused GPU prices to balloon completely out of control.

I do worry though that the 8gb VRAM isn't enough and will become an immediate issue in terms of running newer games.
I'm surprised there isn't a 12 or 16gb premium model. I guess they're trying to target a low-price point market and don't have much faith in sales for a more expensive version.

PS5 specs 5 years after the PS5 release this shit is dead on arrival 8gb cards struggle at 1080p with many games now.

>>725682715
UE5 is a distaster but you know full well that game is an outlier due to what it's doing with its voxels.
>>725682764
>it doesn't matter how good the game looks but how well optimized the code is
No. Regardless of "optimization", which is not some magic black box that a game either has or doesn't have, a game can target whatever hardware it wants.

>>725683387
People don't want to play the latest and """"""greatest"""""" on this thing, that's not the audience they're going for.
You have to remember, this is Steam. People have already purchased 100+ games and have 5 that they like, and those 5 games run on potatoes.

>>725683205
anti-cheats dont and its required for most multiplayer games now, not to mention Secure Boot, thats the thing, Linux will never be relevant for multiplayer gaming and this seems to upset people for some reason whenever its pointed out, its like most of /v/ is retarded and hates being challenged on their cognitive dissonance

>>725683289
>B-B-B-B-BUT
>WHAT ABOUT THE MILLIONS OF BROWN CHILDREN?
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN ONLY WHITES HAVE BOUGHT THIS THING????
okay retard

>>725683125
>Anon can't follow the reply chain properly
The average IQ on /v/ is lower than I thought now.
>>725683213
>Games. I know you're a diehard consolenigger so you don't get it, but most people buy hardware to play games.
Yes, and most of the turbo normalfag games are unplayable on a Linux hardware because of anticheat you moron, not to mention most of them are unoptimized garbage that play like shit. The average normalfag will not know how to use FSR4 on a RDNA 3 GPU you retarded nigger.
>That doesn't mean making it fucking $400 you delusional retard.
Then it's DOA. Every console manufacturer sell their console at a loss now.

>>725670982
>they have to lead the way.
Apple is already well ahead of them in that arena

>>725682772
>Nigger you haven't used it
I have. It fucking sucks. That's why every ARM Laptop flops.
>ARM having drastically lower power draw on equivalent tasks is not some myth you fucking retard
It is. You are just tech illiterate and fell for the meme.
>Nigger there is a smaller instruction set meaning less transistors required for a given operation meaning less power loss to heat. This is not some deep electronic wizardry it's just basic electronics. It has always been the entire purpose of ARM.
Nah, the size of the instruction set doesn't really dictate how many transistors are needed or how much power gets lost as heat, not anymore at least. That might've been true back in the early RISC vs CISC days of the 80s, but modern CPUs don't work like that. x86 chips don't literally have a transistor for every instruction. They all get broken down into smaller micro-ops internally, and those run on the same kinds of execution units you'd find in an ARM CPU. So both end up looking very similar under the hood, a bunch of RISC-like units fed by a complex front end. The transistor count difference today mostly comes from cache size, branch predictors, and integrated GPUs, not from the instruction set itself. Power efficiency now depends way more on process node, clock speeds, and architectural choices, not whether the chip speaks "RISC" or "CISC"
So yeah, ARM being "simpler" doesn't automatically make it more efficient. Apple's M chips feels """magic""" because they are on TSMC's newest node (they are currently on 3nm, while the rest of the industry is on 5nm and 7nm), not because ARM has fewer opcodes.

>>725683553
Online multiplayer games are for spics anyway.

>>725683546
Honestly good point. If I bought something like this I'd use it to emulate games for the GC/PS2 so rather than play modern games so I guess you got me on that one.

>>725682995
Steam doesn't make games and they're doing just fine.

Valvetards running defense for a multi billion dollar corporation that barely makes games anymore is fucking embarrassing. 2nd worst morons after Nintendohomos.

>>725683784
Steam also has ALL the games (except nintendos)

>>725671974
I actually wanted to build a sff for the same use case and Valve made it

>>725683610
>steam
>whites
Good one

>>725670602 (OP)
I don't get it, where's the valve on that machine and why would I want a box that shoots out steam?

>>725683693
and thats why it wont sell on the level of PlayStation or Xbox, /v/ legit gets angry when its pointed out they are a minority market-wise compared to the browns

>>725670602 (OP)
why should i buy this if i already have a good pc

>>725671974
It's primarily to compete with Microsoft (their next Xbox is basically just a prebuilt PC)

>>725683691
>That's why every ARM Laptop flops.
There isn't an ARM laptop set up to use this particular translation layer, which has seen a significant amount of work.
>I know the jargon so listing a bunch off is the same as an argument
No. It is as fundamental as RISC vs CISC, and that's why contemporary RISC architectures on the same process nodes consistently gives better thermals than x86.

>>725670602 (OP)
>sub 400
retardedly wishful thinking. Try to make anything decent with that price and then make a profit from it.
With the specs it might be 600 which is a highly competitive price. For 400 you barely get a mainboard ram and psu these days

>>725670982
I refuse to believe that braindead opinion is even bait.

>>725680713
If it's $600 or less, day one.

>>725683974
Chinese aren't the ones buying the steam deck, my brown friend.
They're also still better than your kind.

>>725683387
>>725683546
You fags will shit a brick when you find out the Series S has 10GB TOTAL memory, with 8GB being normal GDDR6 on a 128bit bus and the last 2GB being on a 32bit bus at 56GB/s. If anything can run on that piece of shit, it can run on the Steam Machine.

Still think the Steam Deck should have been called the Steam Locomotive.
On top of that, Rebrand Source 2 to "The Steam Engine"

>>725673092
>Zotac
Thanks anon I just cringed somewhere I didn't know existed

Hey PC nerds, is it worth it? Don't know jack shit about specs.

>>725680709
No, there is a piece of software that is able to convert games to VR (at least for unreal games I think?), but otherwise it's not VR.
The game needs to be VR for it to be VR. Unless you are OK with playing the game on a flat virtual screen in VR.

>>725673428
PS5 has no games, doe.

>>725671974
I'll get it, so I can play denuvo games.

>>725684116
Do you run away when people ask you to post your hand?

>>725684228
Ask next year.

>>725682149
>3.5L
>micro atx
This thing is smaller than the smallest mini-ITC case.

>>725684228
Nobody actually knows because it's not out yet.
Deck's value proposition standalone wasn't amazing if you didn't already have a huge steam library that you also wanted to play in bed or in a hotel room, it's possible this will be similar.

>>725680709
Yes-ish.
Depends on the game. Some of the games can be depth-mapped so it'll look like a giant floating 3D movie screen.

>>725684228
Wait for the price i guess

>>725684017
>Try to make anything decent with that price and then make a profit from it.
Wow, this was so hard. Let's just ignore that console manufacturers are selling all their consoles at a loss and rely on Software, the multibillion dollar corporation with a limited amount of devices somehow can't do this!
>>725684228
If the base model is priced at $399, sure. Otherwise, it's dogshit. It doesn't even cover a niche interest like the Steam Deck.

>>725684140
If the Steam Deck was called the Steam Train, they could've called the machine the Steam Boat.

>>725670675
SD card slot you can stick the card from your 'eck into

>>725684342
Yes, because taking a photo and scrubbing the exif data is more effort than I have for a shitpost

>>725675506
Grim

>>725683928
Except the easiest to emulate? I don't think so.

>>725684509
4chan scrubs exif for you because people kept doxxing themselves way back when

>>725670602 (OP)
>6x more powerful than the deck
>deck pretty much plays everything I want because I'm not into modern triple AAA UE5 slop
Yep, I think the GabeCube was built for me.

>>725684008
>There isn't an ARM laptop set up to use this particular translation layer, which has seen a significant amount of work.
Which one, retard? Snapdragon just shat out their X2 Elite after hyping it for ages and it was just crap.
>No. It is as fundamental as RISC vs CISC, and that's why contemporary RISC architectures on the same process nodes consistently gives better thermals than x86.
*yadda yadda I'll just ignore you because my tech illiterate brain can't handle the facts*
Grow up. x86 is literally RISC. You are just an ifag pretending to know anything about tech.

>>725684460
The loss console manufacturers are taking isn't even close to the loss this thing would be at $400.
I think you don't realize how expensive shit is these days, even on the OEM side.

>>725670602 (OP)
Why are the prices still hidden? So they can generate engagement twice when they do the price reveal around christmas for the preorders?

>>725684598
See I don't know that because I'm not in the habit of posting photos to fucking 4chan because that's gay and retarded

>>725684228
No, it's outdated garbage.

>>725684509
Thought so brownoid

>>725684625
>Which one, retard?
FEX

>>725670602 (OP)
If it's less than $1000, maybe and only if people were going to get a PC anyway.

>>725684810
If an old core 2 duo with 256MB of RAM can good games, then this thing can :)

>>725670602 (OP)
Anybody who unironically thinks this shit will be $400 or less are legitimately retarded in the unironic sense. Even the Deck comes to around $650-700 for the best model.
This 16GB ram piece of shit is going to be $800 bare minimum with the 2TB model being $1200 because hardware devs like to fuck you in the ass for storage space for some reason. Literally DOA.
screencap this post

>>725684920
Imagine buying something this shit that you also won't be able to upgrade ever. Building a PC is worth it BECAUSE you can upgrade it over time.

>>725670602 (OP)
>No deck 2

>>725684673
>The loss console manufacturers are taking isn't even close to the loss this thing would be at $400.
How is that even possible when the PS5 and Xbox Series X, two consoles from 5 years ago, are more powerful than the Steam Machine and they released around that price tag? Even the digital edition of the PS5 launched around $399. Are Valve just retarded then?

>>725684228
It seems to be made for people who own a steam deck but don't have a PC?

Seems very niche, but It will depend on price. It needs to be quite a bit cheaper compared to a PS5, which is quite a lot more powerful.

>>725685071
>Anybody who unironically thinks this shit will be $400 or less are legitimately retarded in the unironic sense. Even the Deck comes to around $650-700 for the best model.
I don't need to screencap your post because if they can't launch around that pricetag then it's fucking DOA.

>>725684460
>all
go to bed grandpa. Only a few consoles ever did this and people forget that this is only true at release, they can produce the consoles cheaper over time.
Console manufacturing can make contracts to buy parts in millions, allowing them to make extremely beneficial hardware deals on top of having a single platform forcing devs to optimize their shit. Consoles aren't as powerful as you think.

If Valve sells the Steam machine at a loss than people will buy them en masse and exploit the cheap hardware for other stuff. It's not an enclosed system, you can turn it into a cheap cluster.

>>725673583
you live under a rock? Z can't even pirate games because they don't know what a .exe is.

>>725685248
>It seems to be made for people who own a steam deck but don't have a PC?
Wrong

It's made for people who want to have their first PC with Steam seal of Quality™, or are looking to upgrade their laptop to a miniPC(me)

>>725685248
Zen 2 at 3.5 GHz is not more powerful than Zen 4 at 4.8 GHz.

>>725681039
If we're talking teraflops, 6 times more powerful than a Deck would make it equal to or slightly less powerful than a PS5.
So it should be possible in current year/next year to do that and have it be priced in or a little under console territory

>>725685118
Because they aren't actually more powerful, and newer hardware inherently has significant benefits beyond the performance you've imagined in your head.
Steam deck is already not massively far behind a PS5 and the gabecube is supposedly 6x more powerful.

>>725685118
>How is that even possible when the PS5 and Xbox Series X, two consoles from 5 years ago, are more powerful than the Steam Machine and they released around that price tag? Even the digital edition of the PS5 launched around $399. Are Valve just retarded then?

Are you perhaps unaware that Sony and Microsoft are expected to sell hundreds of million of units consoles?

Sony and Microsoft get MUCH MUCH MUCH better deals than Valve

>>725685313
>If Valve sells the Steam machine at a loss than people will buy them en masse and exploit the cheap hardware for other stuff
Okay? How is this my problem or even your problem? Why the fuck do you care that they shouldn't sell at a loss? That's how they did it with the Steam Deck but we have revisionists here saying it's "painful" and not actually selling at a loss, Steam makes billions of dollars anyway. Most people will only buy these devices through Steam's system of 1 machine per user, so the scalping thing shouldn't matter. Anyone that defends this is unironically an idiot.

>>725685248
Its for people who want a box in their room to run VR games on

I can't wait to see the eventual game comparisons and see how a PS5/XBX version of the game is somehow better than the Steam Machine. God, Valve fucked up so hard here lmao.

>>725686001
If it has proper FSR 4 support, which is better upscaling than what any existing console can do, then games would be able to run at somewhat lower settings than PS5 or Series X but still have better image quality than them

>>725686249
>RDNA 3
>proper FSR 4 support
lol

$400 for a cuckbox lol. lmao even.

>>725685561
> equal to or slightly less powerful than a PS5.
>valve is selling literal ewaste
>steamdrones will defend this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RRXB5oMmSk
grim