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Anonymous No.725695730 [Report] >>725696113 >>725696678 >>725696705 >>725696935 >>725698218 >>725698818 >>725699184 >>725699371 >>725699586 >>725699653 >>725701198 >>725701290 >>725709049
So it's the best choice right?
Anonymous No.725696113 [Report] >>725702192
>>725695730 (OP)
Yeah, it's tough to beat the extra MP. Although the shield for early skills like second chance is a good choice too.
Anonymous No.725696539 [Report] >>725696765 >>725707614 >>725710529
Nah the sword is the best cuz magic is for fags lole
Anonymous No.725696678 [Report] >>725702115 >>725711257
>>725695730 (OP)
>doesn't affect what you get, only the order you get it
right?
is this a dumb system or what?
Anonymous No.725696705 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
Shield is. An extra megalixer is worth more than a single extra bar of magic
Anonymous No.725696765 [Report]
>>725696539
Based STRchad.
Anonymous No.725696873 [Report] >>725697425
Which one gives you block earliest? That's what you should pick.
Anonymous No.725696914 [Report]
On 1FM proud, +shield -sword always felt like the best choice. The survivability and abilities you get from that outweighs everything else by a country mile.
Anonymous No.725696935 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
the based choice is pick staff drop sword
Anonymous No.725697425 [Report] >>725698181
>>725696873
Just swing you pussy
Anonymous No.725698181 [Report]
>>725697425
Fine, the put Faggot.
Anonymous No.725698218 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
I think it is but I'll never pick it
Sword only for me
Anonymous No.725698438 [Report]
>pick sword
>drop shield
Yep... It's show time!
Anonymous No.725698586 [Report] >>725699097 >>725699101 >>725699145 >>725700269 >>725705721
I only ever played the ps2 version
What changes in the remakes?
Anonymous No.725698818 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
Yeah
But no cause that shit's gay as fuck bro that thing's for a little girl dawg
Anonymous No.725699097 [Report] >>725699709 >>725699896 >>725710336
>>725698586
Can't look up Kairi's skirt anymore, there's probably other stuff but that's the most important
Anonymous No.725699101 [Report]
>>725698586
A lot of stuff. The most important inclusions are the new difficulties, a new superboss, new weapons that act as alternatives to Ultima Weapon, and new cutscenes. Proud mode is harder than expert mode in the original, and you're rewarded for playing on it by getting access to the new secret cutscene by just beating the game instead of doing basically everything.
Anonymous No.725699145 [Report]
>>725698586
The important stuff is that there's a bunch of new bosses and you can skip cutscenes.
But there's also a bunch of quirky stuff like shops having different stock and the synthesis process maybe not sucking as much?
Anonymous No.725699184 [Report] >>725699594
>>725695730 (OP)
It's fucked up that you can't get the Dream Weapons back. I want to beat the fuck out of guys with the Dream Shield, Goofy shouldn't be able to take that from me.
Dream Sword too, obviously, but that's just a given considering the other assholes get theirs.
Anonymous No.725699371 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
Best as in most optimal for damage and endgame strength, but the shield is the best choice if you just want an easier time overall (aka scrub mode).
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.725699586 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
Yes.

You can't earn the MP from it in any other way and item slots are 100% pointless in KH1 due to MP Rage + MP Gift from Goofy and just how much MP you actually have. What you have by default is more than enough for anything even on Proud even if you're fighting Sephiroth or Xemnas.
The extra MP means you will cross the damage threshold faster. In KH1 you deal chip damage until you pass certain points in your STR and MP amounts pre and post Hollow Bastion. This isn't as prevalent prior to Hollow Bastion since they have such small HP bars so it's not really perceivable, but after you reach Hollow Bastion you can see this happen in realtime just by swapping Keyblades that buff STR/MP when you're near the threshold where you stop dealing chip damage and start dealing chunks of damage. I think for STR it was around 45-50 and for MP it was 8 bars?
The extra MP means early game will be easier due to Blizzard and Fire spam in addition to Cure being more readily available. It also means Hollow Bastion will be way easier because you can Gravity the Wyverns and Guardians.
Anonymous No.725699594 [Report] >>725699762
>>725699184
Technically the dream sword is in ultima weapon, kinda
Anonymous No.725699653 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
for 100% yes
Anonymous No.725699709 [Report] >>725699939 >>725700686
>>725699097
Wasn't she always wearing shorts? You're thinking about Selphie.
Anonymous No.725699762 [Report] >>725700265 >>725700269 >>725702318
>>725699594
What's a good alternative for Ultima? Dont wanna grind for it tb h
Anonymous No.725699896 [Report]
>>725699097
Literally unplayable
Anonymous No.725699939 [Report]
>>725699709
Well he said remakes so I thought he meant the series in general unless the first one got multiple remakes which I guess it did sort of, but yes you also can't look up Selphie's skirt
Anonymous No.725700265 [Report] >>725700385 >>725701006
>>725699762
Strictly speaking there isn't, that's the point.
But uh
>Divine Rose has the damage and crit chance but is short as fuck
>Lady Luck is like the best spellcaster keyblade and has the same +2 MP bonus without having
>Lionheart has a comparable strength bonus and +1 MP but marginally worse crit chance than Oathkeeper
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.725700269 [Report] >>725700641
>>725698586
They're not remakes, 1.5, 2.5, and 2.8 are just remasters with BBSFM and DDD being ports. DDD had some minor changes to make it what is basically DDDFM, but it's still essentially a port, not a remake.

When it comes to an overall thing:
>Game balance is changed across the board.
>There's new difficulties like Proud in KH1 and Critical in KH2.
>There's new superbosses with 2FM having all the Organization battles.
>There's new Keyblades.
>There's new craftable items.
>There's new Heartless and the FMs completely reskinned the Heartless.
>There's new locations for either boss fights or outright new areas like the areas leading up to the data battles in 2FM.
>There's new cutscenes, especially in 2FM.
>There's new challenges and minigames to play.

>>725699762
1's was Oathkeeper or Divine Rose if I remember right but you really should get Ultima Weapon.
2 is Decisive Pumpkin. Decisive Pumpkin is the actual Ultima Weapon of 2FM, Ultima Weapon is a downgrade from DP.
Anonymous No.725700385 [Report] >>725700617
>>725700265
>Lady Luck is like the best spellcaster keyblade and has the same +2 MP bonus without having
Without having a huge strength penalty like Spellbinder, that was clipped off my post
Anonymous No.725700617 [Report] >>725700797 >>725701203
>>725700385
Yeah but Spellbinder looks way cooler and aesthetics matter.
Anonymous No.725700641 [Report] >>725700761
>>725700269
I remember in 2 if you used Fenrir and stacked Negative Combo, you could just do combo finshers and it made everything that wasn't a boss get stunlocked. Also made some mini-games way easier, but yeah the Pumpkin is the best.
Anonymous No.725700686 [Report]
>>725699709
he was thinking of kh2 kairi panties
Anonymous No.725700761 [Report]
>>725700641
you can stunlock lingering will with jump attacks using that setup actually
Anonymous No.725700797 [Report]
>>725700617
Oh dude you don't have to tell me, I love Spellbinder too. Lady Luck's card theme wins more, sorry
Anonymous No.725701006 [Report] >>725701116
>>725700265
diamond dust is strictly superior if i recall, if you really like magic. divine rose, like you said, is technically the best physical keyblade if you can deal with the trash range.
my interpretation of ultima is that you don't have to compromise on anything, it's not the best if you want ultra specialization, but it's second or third best in virtually everything.
Anonymous No.725701116 [Report]
>>725701006
Diamond dust has a big fat strength deficit and the +1 MP doesn't actually translate to that much more damage when casting spellz
Anonymous No.725701198 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
sword is better then staff in final mix because getting all the combo modifiers early makes the early game (hardest part of the game) way smoother and more fun, endgame having 2 more MP sounds impressive till you remember you can just get a ton of accessories that give +2/+3 mp to hit the same stat breakpoints and goofy means you have unlimited MP for actual casting
Anonymous No.725701201 [Report]
Everything becomes trivial well before discrepancies in keyblade abilities matter.

The only hard bosses are the first few before you get scan or cure.
Anonymous No.725701203 [Report] >>725701359 >>725701648
>>725700617
>aesthetics matter.
This bothers me. Any Keyblade that isn't OG is going to look stupid.
Anonymous No.725701290 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
Sword because Donald is the wand, and goofy is the shield
Anonymous No.725701359 [Report]
>>725701203
Wrong
Anonymous No.725701648 [Report]
>>725701203
Oblivion is the best looking Keyblade
Anonymous No.725702115 [Report] >>725702207 >>725702606
>>725696678
In KH1 taking/sacrificing the rod translates into gaining/losing a point of MP. MP is also what scales the damage/duration of your spells, and has a lower achievable max that scales more than strength and defense can. Strength/Defense can also be boosted as much as you want through crafting stat boosters, while MP will only ever vary based on your starting choice and current equipment.
Strictly speaking you don't need to go all in on magicmaxxing, and taking sword or shields ability lists have more early game benefits, but sacrificing the rod is a fairly bad idea that will make some things more annoying like having a shorter stop duration for the Phantom fight or farming Pink Agaricus for crafting materials.
Anonymous No.725702192 [Report]
>>725696113
Second Chance in final mix isnt really that worth it over Leaf Bracer, how many times are you seriously getting hit with big dick damage that cant be prevented/recovered from by just casting cure? Feel like if you really dont want the rod you should take the sword for sliding dash and slapshot earlier
Anonymous No.725702207 [Report] >>725702262 >>725702376 >>725702438
>>725702115
Is there a reason for the jumping?
Anonymous No.725702262 [Report]
>>725702207
Faster casting
Anonymous No.725702318 [Report]
>>725699762
Diamond Dust is the only keyblade that gives +3 mp, not even Ultima weapon gives more than +2
Anonymous No.725702376 [Report]
>>725702207
It interrupts the usual delay between casting multiple spells
Anonymous No.725702438 [Report]
>>725702207
landing interrupts the animation/delay
Anonymous No.725702475 [Report] >>725702590 >>725702647
Is there any reason to use this?
Anonymous No.725702590 [Report]
>>725702475
it look cool
Anonymous No.725702606 [Report]
>>725702115
>using magic in kingdom hears
Ngmi
Anonymous No.725702647 [Report] >>725703932 >>725704685
>>725702475
I dont know why people praise KH2's keyblade system so much, I can count all of the ones worth using as primaries on one hand so all it does is doom some keyblades to never being used as opposed to being used for a little bit each at least
Anonymous No.725702678 [Report] >>725702764 >>725703060
Which game has the best magic?
Anonymous No.725702764 [Report]
>>725702678
1, because the spells are practical and unique
Anonymous No.725703060 [Report]
>>725702678
1's magic makes you feel like Gandalf
2's magic makes you feel like Anime
Anonymous No.725703121 [Report] >>725703332 >>725703347 >>725703519 >>725707578
Is it possible to do a magic only run in 1, no regular attacks?
Anonymous No.725703332 [Report]
>>725703121
regular attacks is the primary means of regaining mp
Anonymous No.725703347 [Report]
>>725703121
Surely you have to fight something before you get the first spell and there's probably a boss who is immune to magic
Anonymous No.725703519 [Report]
>>725703121
Maybe if you're playing on beginner/normal? The issue is the only way to regain mp without basic attacks when you run out of items for 80% of the game is getting hit (if mp rage is equipped) or from mp bubble drops, but both of them are kinda ass. You'd probably also have to allow munny grinding before you get the first spell to upkeep that ether addiction. This is especially bad if you disallow summons too because that locks out Bambi
Anonymous No.725703932 [Report] >>725704131
>>725702647
Because in an ideal world every Keyblade's ability has a niche use in some strategy somewhere.
And to be fair, there are a good few niche, dedicated strategies that use specific blades to capitalize on a weakness (like Vexen) or just for utility (the Orb Mushroom), but yeah I do agree that they screwed the pooch with Decisive Pumpkin getting out with the best ability. I'm fine with there being a "best ability" but it should be on Ultima or Kingdom Key.
Anonymous No.725704131 [Report] >>725704378
>>725703932
They shouldntve been so afraid of the keyblades having bigger stat gaps, you start with a 4 stat keyblade and the highest it goes iirc is 9, couldve had stronger keyblades with weaker abilities too to make something like Hidden Dragon actually worth a damn
Anonymous No.725704378 [Report] >>725704607
>>725704131
Honestly if Fire wasn't such a dog shit spell, hidden dragon would be pretty okay.
Anonymous No.725704485 [Report] >>725705326 >>725710976
reminder to play jacks game if you haven't, it feels more like a kh game then kh3 does
Anonymous No.725704607 [Report] >>725704694 >>725704820
>>725704378
Fire's good if only because of how the drive forms treat it, its Blizzard that's the worst, especially when getting it to max level requires doing Atlantica. The people who think KH1's fire is a bad spell havent seen how much worse it can be
Anonymous No.725704685 [Report]
>>725702647
Almost all of the Keyblades in 2 are good. It's true that Hero's Crest, Rumbling Rose, and Decisive Pumpkin rule most battles but none of them are really bad... except Gull Wing and Sweet Memories which have other intentions for their use
Anonymous No.725704694 [Report]
>>725704607
>people who think KH1's fire is a bad spell
People think KH1 fire is bad?
Anonymous No.725704820 [Report]
>>725704607
KH2 fire buddy.
KH1 fire fucks, especially if you slap on exp zero.
You can nuke the fucking sniper wilds with it.
Anonymous No.725705284 [Report] >>725705487 >>725706647 >>725708396
>weapon has a negative effect to try and balance it out
>the negative effect is actually beneficial
good thing the game is effectively over when you get it because the oversights on this one is hilarious
Anonymous No.725705326 [Report] >>725709140
>>725704485
I bounced off of Jack's game like thrice. I really gotta buckle down and just play it at some point, I know the gear system sorts itself out eventually.
Anonymous No.725705487 [Report] >>725705671 >>725705827 >>725706335
>>725705284
What's it do?
Anonymous No.725705671 [Report]
>>725705487
Fat damage, reduces all combos by 1. It allows for stunlock loops, notoriously on Lingering Will
Anonymous No.725705721 [Report]
>>725698586
Camera controls that dont suck ass
Anonymous No.725705827 [Report]
>>725705487
It has Negative Combo. If you use it, equip your ability list version of it, and unequip all copies of Combo Plus, it makes it so all your attacks are finishers.
Anonymous No.725706335 [Report] >>725707158 >>725709057
>>725705487
LET ME POST FUCK
I NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT COMBO MINUS ISN'T A DOWNSIDE IN KH2 BECAUSE BOSSES HAVE TO BE HIT WITH FINISHERS TO COUNT AND THE MATH IS OUT ON THE BENEFITS OF COMBO BOOST SINCE YOU CAN JUST WAIL ON SHIT WITH FINISHERS
Anonymous No.725706647 [Report]
>>725705284
>anon thinks negative combo was intended to be a downside
they knew exactly what they were doing.
Anonymous No.725707158 [Report] >>725707296 >>725707531 >>725707746 >>725708212 >>725709512
>>725706335
>me with all Combo Pluses equipped at 13 years old and not understanding why Xaldin has been at 1HP for the last 5 minutes but won't die
Anonymous No.725707276 [Report]
Anyone mess with the GameShark codes on ps2 to allow things like anti drive wielding a keyblade? That stuff used to be coolest shit on youtube.
Anonymous No.725707296 [Report]
>>725707158
For me, it's Berserk
Anonymous No.725707531 [Report] >>725707651
>>725707158
Same. Did the game ever explain this anywhere?
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.725707578 [Report]
>>725703121
I think it would be possible, yeah, but there'd be a lot of Munny grinding and the challenge can't start until you finish Traverse Town since that's when you first unlock Fire. If you use cheat codes to grant yourself Fire on Destiny Islands I don't think you'd ever be able to get past the Darkside since you'd have what, eight casts of it with the MP you'd have at that point? The only item on the islands are a Protect Chain. If you're doing a challenge run it would also make sense to completely disable Goofy and Donald via mods because otherwise you can tediously dodge attacks until they kill everything and then later on Goofy just MP Gifts you infinitely.

Thinking about it your run would go something like
>Pick Proud because it's a challenge run.
>Pick +Staff -Sword.
>Stats don't matter because magic damage is based on total MP bars.
Technically you could do an EXP Zero run to make this also a level 1 run for no reason to buff damage heavily as the only thing you'd be gaining is HP and defense, but if you can deal with that there's that to consider.
>Go through the game until clearing Traverse Town ignoring every non-mandatory fight or enemy to retain the purity of the run.
>Do a 180 and go back to Traverse Town and tediously grind Munny via save point recoveries and Shadows to afford an entire inventory and change of Ethers.
>You'd initially go to Wonderland to get Blizzard and Lady Luck ASAP.
>Then you'd go to Olympus Coliseum to get Thunder.
>You'd finally finish Deep Jungle for Cure.
>Clear Agrabah to get Blizzara.
>Then just play the game like normal making sure you grind materials for the MP accessories.
Once you get past Agrabah I don't see it being that difficult unless you disable both Donald and Goofy at which point I'm not sure if you can make it past the End of the World's waves even with the Ethers just due to the Invisibles and Angel Stars + not having access to Bambi due to no party members. You could Gravira/ga them I guess.
Anonymous No.725707614 [Report] >>725708517
>>725696539
Ur right
>Freezes time
Magic is
>Takes out massive dong
for
>Pulls ur pants down
FAAAAAGS
>thrusts cock in ur asshole
Anonymous No.725707651 [Report]
>>725707531
Nope.
Anonymous No.725707746 [Report] >>725707892 >>725708052 >>725708114
>>725707158
>use the skill that gives you infinite combo while out of MP
>can't kill bosses anymore.
what were they thinking?
Anonymous No.725707762 [Report]
I prefer to mash the X button actually
Anonymous No.725707873 [Report]
I'm tired of you people not respecting Guardian Soul, it's definitely up there
Anonymous No.725707892 [Report] >>725708043
>>725707746
Probably the same kind of retardation that made them think the MP Charge system isn't objectively dogshit.
Anonymous No.725708043 [Report] >>725708429
>>725707892
pretty sure "objectively dogshit" was the general theme they were going for with 2 in general.
Anonymous No.725708052 [Report]
>>725707746
You still can if you use the square attacks. It's a very needlessly confusing system.
Anonymous No.725708114 [Report]
>>725707746
They were thinking of Horizontal Slash spam, which is so fun that it's worth equipping for that alone.
Anonymous No.725708142 [Report]
I chose the sword because Sora wields a sword.
Anonymous No.725708212 [Report]
>>725707158
>me being the retard I was when I was a kid and equipping all the combo plusses AND negative combo abilities (and using Fenrir)
Anonymous No.725708396 [Report]
>>725705284
I use this as a joke to fight Lingering Will. Imagine my shock I one combo him. Sad I wasn't the first to figure it out.
Anonymous No.725708429 [Report]
>>725708043
Eh, I think KH2 is worse than KH1, and its impact on the rest of the series is probably bad.
But I wouldn't say the entire theme of KH2 was "objectively dogshit".
Anonymous No.725708517 [Report] >>725716320
>>725707614
>mage chooses to have sex with men they instant the opportunity appears
Not surprised
Anonymous No.725708630 [Report] >>725708830 >>725713162
You DO go to Olympus before Wonderland, right?
Anonymous No.725708830 [Report]
>>725708630
No because I lost to Cloud as a kid so I have ingrained that he's a hard fight that requires some levels to beat instead of accepting I was just a dumb kid
Anonymous No.725708904 [Report]
I didn't use any cheap tricks like nega combo fenrir or final form firaga to beat Lingering Will on crit. Nope, I just grinded to lv 99 and packed 'lixirs and ungabunga'd with ultima and desperately spammed limit form to ungabunga sonic rave, the HONEST way to beat him.
Anonymous No.725709049 [Report]
>>725695730 (OP)
From a min-maxing "highest stats possible at level 99" perspective, yes.
If you just want to finish the game as fast as possible then picking sword and unga bungaing through everything is faster.
Anonymous No.725709057 [Report]
>>725706335
I remember fighting Sephiroth in KH2 for the first time, I was still low level and was sorting my limited number of ability points to try to improve my survivability after a couple deaths. I turned off a few Combo Plus and Air Combo Plus just to lock in other things, and inadvertently found myself in an ideal looping state.
While high up in the air, Sephiroth would break out of my air combo after the same number of hits each time, then instantly teleport to slash me, but my specific limited air combo would have me throw out the next attack at the perfect time to clash, allowing me to follow up with an attack and combo him again. I just mashed attack for a few minutes and whittled his health down to nothing, he was caught in a loop and unable to do anything else.
Anonymous No.725709140 [Report]
>>725705326
just press the optimal gear button until you hit chaos mode/the post game, which itself gives you some really good gear to carry you for a long time thru the dlc
Anonymous No.725709351 [Report] >>725709535
Did you know that you can block a Red Nocturne's fireball to open Merlin's door?
Anonymous No.725709512 [Report]
>>725707158
>hate the feature when I was a kid
>realize I can just cast thunder to end the fight
Anonymous No.725709535 [Report]
>>725709351
Why did this post play the puzzle completion sound in my head
Anonymous No.725710336 [Report]
>>725699097
Anonymous No.725710529 [Report] >>725710580
>>725696539
HOLY BASED
Anonymous No.725710580 [Report]
>>725710529
poohbear got the GYATT
Anonymous No.725710976 [Report] >>725711162
>>725704485
I want Jack in KH4.
Anonymous No.725711162 [Report] >>725711371
>>725710976
>all those convoluted villain diatribes for Jack to stonewall with BULLSHIT
excellent idea
Anonymous No.725711257 [Report]
>>725696678
Anonymous No.725711371 [Report] >>725712642
>>725711162
You can even tie him with Darkness pretty easily, he's a very natural fit to the KH universe outside of the swearing. But Sora would notice one or two things and realize he's a good dude deep down.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.725712642 [Report]
>>725711371
>Jack assumes the form of Garland.
>Sora can see that he's not really a bad dude despite all the darkness.
>Says he reminds him of this guy named "Terra".
>You fight and defeat Aced because that would make the most sense out of the five Foretellers to go up against Jack.
>After you finish the world the Keyblade you gain has the four fiends on the hilt and Garland's sword.
Anonymous No.725713162 [Report]
>>725708630
When I was a kid I literally didn't know you had to attempt to push the block to start the level so I beat the entire game without ever maxing out thunder and then went back and figured it out. I steamrolled the arena shit in one go when I got to it.
Anonymous No.725716320 [Report]
>>725708517
Yup…
>paralyzes you with magic and rapes u savagely forty times