Thread 725697062

This thing is gonna sell like hotcakes if priced right. Decent PC specs, Steam branding, console-like experience with PC capabilities, will be able to emulate just about any console...
Yeah, I think Valve won the 9th generation of consoles, bros.

>hw from 5 years ago
it will be cheep as fack

>>725697062 (OP)
>This thing is gonna sell like hotcakes if priced right
>Decent PC specs
Nice bait.

>>725697210
And that's good. High-end PCs will always be on top, but not everyone cares or can buy them, there's a market for mid-range or entry-level gameboxes.

>>725697062 (OP)
I don't think so. It can't do half of the things a real PC can and it can't play normie slop like Fortnite. I'm predicting a flop

>>725697062 (OP)
>console-like experience with PC capabilities

Every modern console is basically an AMD PC

>PS5
8-core AMD Zen 2
>Xbox
8-core AMD Zen 2
>Steam
8-core AMD Zen 4

Lisa won

>>725697405
>It can't do half of the things a real PC can
Like what?

>>725697062 (OP)
>if priced right
Where is the price then? It's like the only important metric for gaybecube

>>725697467
Can you turn your PS5 into a desktop and install an office suite program to write on? Can you use non-approved emulators on a PS5 without hacking the system?

No?

Then Steam Machine is on top.

>>725697472
Photoshop, Office, stuff like that.

>>725697062 (OP)
>Price
They said the price is in the level of an entry level PC, so it is gonna cost at least 700 dollars

>>725697620
>Photoshop
GIMP
>Office
LibreOffice or OnlyOffice.

Done.

>>725697731
Lol, nobody will bother with off brand slop when they can just get a cheap laptop for the real stuff. The PC factor of the steam machine won't matter it will need to be carried by the console aspect but it can't even play fortnite

>>725697947
You know you could just install Windows on the Steam Machine if you wanted to, right? LIke nobody is stopping you from plugging a USB with Windows in it and installing it.

Regardless, there are quite a few people that use the fucking DECK as a scuffed PC, I think an actual decent PC box will be very popular as a gaming workstation.

god, when are they going to show the price? I want to know already

>>725697062 (OP)
Oh no it's only going to run 99.5% games in existence+ emulation

>>725697062 (OP)
Ah, my new Plex Server. Good night Shield TV Pro.

troondeck

>>725697210
2 years ago, homie.

>>725698201
Anon I think you should re-read the post. I'm Pro-Steam Machine.

659.99$ 512TB model
699.99$ 2TB Model

>>725697062 (OP)
>valve like nintendo never takes a loss
$799

>>725697062 (OP)
Why do you think they're not showing the price? The hype would be gone in a second the moment they do. Valve was never targeting poorfags like Sony or Nintendo.

>>725698608
>why
Probably because they haven't nailed the release date yet, and showing the price too early would make them vulnerable to economic shocks that would force the price up or down and it would be really bad PR if they had to change the pricepoint after announcing it.

Can this thing emulate Xbox 360? I'm hearing it can emulate PS3 and probably some PS4.

more slop to consoom

>>725698846
Would you settle for none of them?

>>725698608
Because it isnt coming out until next year.

>>725698551
700 seems like a decent deal for a mid range PC (with extra support for newer games)
Unless you only ever play latest ue 5 slop

>>725697062 (OP)
I just don't think Valve can price it low enough to make it a success. They can't afford to take a loss per unit sale the same way consoles can.
>no paid online
>can play non-steam games
>doesn't even have a niche like steam deck does
If it's still successful somehow that's just a sign of how stupid the PC market has gotten.

>>725698846
PS4 Emu is still in its infancy so it's hard to judge it. But yeah it could probably easily handle Switch, PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii U.

>>725698846
PS3 may be at 30 fps
PS4 - LOL NO, 9800X3D shits the bed with it

will it be able to play nintendo 2 games?

>>725698978
The specs the Steam console has are not midrange for PC standards.

>>725698983
> They can't afford to take a loss per unit sale the same way consoles can.
ah yes, they "cant afford" to take a loss with their monopoly store front.
get real.

>>725698983
>no paid online
Why would they need it? Steam prints money for them already. You boot up the Steam Machine and unless you configure it to be Desktop it boots you into Steam immediately.

The purposes of the Steam Deck and Steam Machine isn't to make money on the hardware, but to incentivize as many people as possible to spend money on the store.

>>725698846
And if it can Stream to Steam Deck, can we get WiiU style DS and 3DS emulation?

>>725699017
>PS3 may be at 30 fps
The 'eck emulates PS3 at 60 fps no problem, and this is supposed to be 6x stronger

>>725698978
>costs as much as a ps6
>as powerful as a ps5

Best deal on gaming !

>>725699290
at what resolution? and what games?
Try Gow3 on your SteamCock

>>725699336
>He thinks the PS6 is gonna be 700$
Lol
Lmao

>>725699264
>And if it can Stream to Steam Deck
You can already do this with your regular PC
>can we get WiiU style DS and 3DS emulation?
Not while streaming, but if you have a USB-C to HDMI cable, you can connect the deck to a monitor and play DS/3DS/Wii U games like that, I've done it with MH3U on Cemu

It's gonna be $600 MINIMUM for the 256gb, probably 800 for the 2tb

>>725699123
monopolies don't like losing money

>>725699437
valve aint your run of the mill company.

>>725699391
>thinks a mainstream subsidized console is going to be $1k

>>725699556
broher it's gonna be like 800 or 900$ on launch.

>>725699336
It's going to run 99.7% games in existence + emulation + any normal pc functions.

Sounds like a good thing to me

>>725697062 (OP)
No one with a brain wants a console experience like this.

You get locked into steam (so valve wins)
You get a controller for pc games not designed around it, aim assist if you are lucky, and pc multiplayer lobbies which means you are going to get rocked since none of them support input based limits.
You get game ui’s designed around small pc 4k screens, so when you hook up to your 65 inch screen ui elements and text are tiny as fuck and terrible because 99% of games do not have the proper scaling settings to account for it.
Not to mention any multiplayer games now also put you into the normal pc cheater pool.


Only /r/pcmasterrace would jerk off over this. Anyone with a brain sees it as a gimmick.

as a gaming pc owner the only interesting thing here is if steam OS is going to be available for everyone to just run on anything.
the fact that they didn't announce the price means it's probably going to be higher than anyone wants.

>>725698101
these people are retarded theres no point trying to convince them. they just default back to "but doing [literally anything] is too complicated!"

>/v/ defends prebuilts now
It's actually a fucking cult...

What the fuck is that controller tho

>>725699123
>anon expects Valve to price their custom PC reasonably because they can afford to waste money wantonly
>>725699132
>You boot up the Steam Machine and unless you configure it to be Desktop it boots you into Steam immediately.
To boot one up you have to buy it first and if it costs too much it won't sell many units.

>>725699720
mostly valvefans that want to justify a htpc

>>725697062 (OP)
If its around 350 I'm down. Perfect for the kids.

>>725699732
I feel like the launch of these devices brings steamos 3 finally.

>>725699720
>You get locked into steam
No you don't
>You get a controller for pc games not designed around it
You can just plug in a mouse and keyboard and it'll work 10x better than doing the same on a console
>You get game ui’s designed around small pc 4k screens
No you don't
>Not to mention any multiplayer games now also put you into the normal pc cheater pool.
The amount of multiplayer games that block Linux are very few compared to the majority.

>>725697062 (OP)
I'm sure the target audience will buy the troon cube OP

>>725699732
deck2 based on arm

>>725699756
not only is it a prebuilt its a prebuilt with an established ecosystem. something no console can tout since probably the Gamecube. Its not cultlike because its still a relatively open platform. youre not installing Monster Hunter 4u on an iphone with no additional purchase just because you bought it on Mac- which you didnt anyway because it wasnt available there either

>>725697620
>pretends that normalfags use such software
"Rough estimate: between 0.1% and 0.3% of “normal desktop users” (non-business, non-professional) actively use Photoshop."
you Microslop jeets need to stop lying and spreading propaganda

>>725697062 (OP)
if it emulates everything well i might get one

>>725699931
Doubt.

>>725697731
Ill give you gimp, but libre office is dogshit my dude.

>>725699871
Not to mention, SteamOS basically just runs Linux under the hood, you can install whatever the hell you want on it. People act like it's some walled garden when it's literally the opposite. It's as open as you make it. The only “lock-in” is convenience, and even that can be bypassed with 5 minutes in the desktop mode. These dudes get mad at an open PC that boots Steam instead of a console that boots ads.

>>725699972
only makes sense seeing what effort they put into the frame

>>725699771
mousepads aswell as analog sticks. it looks stupid as fuck but having mouse control was one of the limiting factors of ease of use for PC games on console. now you have TWO FUCKING MOUSEPADS on EACH THUMB. which makes snappy menu navigation actually viable. you can even set one of them as a dial of quick commands.

>>725697620
webapps

>>725699854
>This anon thinks it is going to cost less than the Steam Deck

>>725700030
Does amd have any arm chips set to hit the market ?

>>725700000
CHECKED

>>725700000
Quints of truth

>>725698551
That would be dumb as fuck. Why would they even bother manufacturing a 512gb model if there's only a $40 difference between it and the 2tb model for a ~$700 product

>>725697731
GIMP Is fucking dogshit are you serious?

>>725700000
kek based

>>725700205
> amd
> arm
what

>>725700000
MEDIOCRE

>>725700000
Digits confirm

>>725700000
I use Libreoffice (only Writer really) pretty regularly and it's fine for what it is, never felt the impulse of 'oh I wish I had Microsoft Office right now!'

>>725700349
Exactly.

>it's $650
>I can spend that upgrading to an RTX 5070 and have leftover money for heroin

Prophecy has been fulfilled
The GabeCube is now real

>>725697620
Are you fucking retarded? It's literally a PC. You can install Windows 11 if you have some sort of humiliation fetish.

>>725697731
>>725700000
fuck you and your quints

gimp is a disaster, it's 3 decades behind the competition and still somehow losing ground. it's the epitome of everything wrong with FOSS

they recently added a text outline tool, which i was very excited about (anyone who has used gimp in the past knows the painful doing it manually is), but it literally works backwards. it doesn't draw an outline around text, it draws a line within the actual letters. looks absolutely terrible and you'd never use it under any circumstances. shit like that is what happens when your project is ran by retarded programmers who don't employ designers or even use their own software to begin with

>>725701009
Sounds more like a management/direction decision rather than a FOSS decision.

Photoshop is equally terrible, just in its own unique Adobe ways.

>>725697731
>>725700000
>>725700297
How come no one ever talks about photopea? Its literally photoshop in your browser that you dont even have to sign up for to use or import/export. I made an entire tabletop game in photopea.

If it's more than $500 it won't move at all. The normalfags they're trying to capture WILL NOT abandon their libraries without a reason to do so. I think if they did something like the complete valve pack with every purchase of the 2tb model they might get some but no. I just don't think it has any place to succeed. Like the deck it will do enough though.

>>725701009
if you're a professional designer or slop editor then get a laptop for work and stop bitching about open source software

>>725701164
Free version is very limitred
also slow and laggy Js garbage

>>725699720
>No one with a brain wants a console experience
I will only game on PC because of the freedom and because I fucking hate Sony and Nintendo. But I will admit it's a fucking pain in the ass and I want the console experience. Case in point:
>Have gaymer pc hooked up to Samsung OLED tv
>"Oh boy it's Halloween. I should play some spooky games."
>Boot up evil within
>Steam says it's loading but nothing comes up until it eventually prompts me to click play again
>"What the fuck?"
>Open game folder and configure compatibility settings
>Game launches, but after the splash screens the fucking monitor goes to sleep
>"What the fuck?"
>Look into this and apparently it's a known issue. Workaround is to grab a keyboard and hit Ctrl+l to lock your computer and then sign in
>Do this and game is finally working. But the game does not take up the entire window and is shrunk despite being full screen
>"What the fuck?"
>Change resolution but now there's no fucking audio
>"What the fuck?"
>Turns out there's some fuck ass issue with Nvidia cards that cause issues with HDMI audio through earc, despite having a cable that should support this bandwidth
>Spend loads of time troubleshooting and finally got it working
>Later, decide to play it on my steam deck
>It just fucking works

I like pc gaming. I like being able to pirate games, emulate games, mod games, to share games with my steam family/friends, to have a library that doesn't go away after a console generation, to be able to open up cheat engine or wemod and skip grindy sections of games, I like not having to pay a monthly subscription to play online. But what I don't like is the random dumb fuck issues that occur randomly and ruin a good time.

>>725701287
just stay on windows, pajeet.

>>725700645
20 years late and only hyped by diehard superfans. Modern Valve has to be one of the worst fall-offs of any company, I legit think only Bioware is worse.

>>725701423
I'm white and you're retarded. Do the world a favor and rope yourself.

>>725697062 (OP)
They have created the ultimate gaming here. Common complaints about modern systems are that they're too fucking big. A PC that you can throw in your bag and easily hook up at your mates house without a dock sounds like an easy sell.

>>725701287
>filename
>gaming on tv
you should go back

lol

if it's priced right

all the steam machines will end up into ai or crypto farms

like say if valve charges $500 for it. it's absolutely over. Every chink in America will be smuggling them into China. it'll be hard to get ahold of one. The PC hardware market is just so fucked right now that any good deals are immediately taken advantage of by bad actors. literally, it'll end up with a situation that these things will be taken and repurposed for some grift instead of being used by gamers

>>725699720
>You get locked into steam (so valve wins)
I can't tell if you're intentionally lying through your teeth or just confidently proclaiming your ignorance and retardation on a subject you know nothing about. This thing is just the stationary version of steam deck. Not only can you run competing storefronts on you, you can run whatever operating system you want on it.

>>725701287
im going to assume that this is purely a linux problem.

>>725697062 (OP)
Gotta be honest, even though it's just a cube, it aesthetically mogs every other system from this gen.
That little glowing line near the bottom, i like that. Reminds me a bit of the PS2.

>>725702256
The fact you can customize the panels is a good detail.

>>725702191
i hate that you're right.
the sooner the AI fad can pass the better.

>>725697062 (OP)
the fact that if my PC goes tits up I'll probably end up getting one of these is peak comedy to me

I am not paying 500 dollars for RAM and 1500 for a decent GPU.

>>725702191
Just extra-judicially drone strike them like those Caribbean boats.
Problem solved and an actual well deserved target

Valve can't price them lower than cost. If they did, it's not like consoles where the people that buy them are trapped on the ecosystem. If these things are good deals many customers will buy them and install windows on them to sell as budget desktops, or install linux on them to sell to data farms. Like if someone buys a Switch 2, one way or another, that Switch 2 is going to be used to play licensed Nintendo games..At least one in 99% of cases.

But with a Steam Machine, how many are just going to end up wiped for some other purpose, and Steam is never even used on them? The number is greater than 0. 20%? 30%? 50%? 80%? It depends on how much of a deal it is and whether people that aren't Steam customers can easily get ahold of them.

>>725702867
>If these things are good deals many customers will buy them and install windows on them to sell as budget desktops, or install linux on them to sell to data farms
and if you buy one from a scalper you deserve to pay the retard task
Scalping faggots should not ever be part of a product design decision

>>725697731
your boomer is showing, retard. normies don't even use photoshop or office any more, they just use google docs or photopea, which are all browser based. the age of pirating industry standards is long over for the normies

>>725702960
It's the reality of the desktop hardware right now. Imagine if Valve was taking a 50% loss on the Steam Machine and these being a desktop for crazy low prices. It would end very badly for them

>>725697620
Who the fuck buys a console to use Photoshop or Office?

>>725703120
Yeah and then lose all of their shit when the sites go down or can't work when the internet is out.

No thanks, fag, I'm gonna keep writing locally.

>>725702191
Yep

AMD RDNA 3 is an AI chip. Scalpers will be on it like vultures.

>>725702191
Surely Valve wouldn't price this the same as an Xbox. When it's literally half the size of an Xbox.

>>725703196
The selling point of the steam machine is being a PC console hybrid

if it isn't 299$ then it is completely dead as fuck on arrival. They NEED to sell this at a loss to see mass adoption, especially right now with PC building being fucked by AI pricing out everyone.

>>725702191
>>725702867
>Custom Ryzen parts
>Drivers order the system to self destruct if it detects if it's in a data center

>>725703639
if Valve sells it at a loss it will be even worse of a disaster than the PSP

>>725703639
>They NEED to sell this at a loss to see mass adoption
whatever gave you the impression that is their goal? they seem to be fine with the deck selling a few million
its a niche product

>>725703719
and the PSP failed financially because it was so easily modded with custom firmware. All you needed to do it was a SD card.

With a Steam Machine, there wouldn't be any basic security to lock the system down to Steam OS.Anyone will just be able to install another OS on it a very short time. Including large scale batch flashing of it and a lot of them would end up not even being used to play games at all much less on Steam

>>725704034
oh no, god forbid you actually own the things you buy

>>725704216
then you support 90% of them ending up in AI farms because "they own the things they buy". That's who will buy it, and that's who will pay the most money for them.

>>725703660
datacenters are not facing a CPU shortage
the memory is too slow for datacenter usage and IGPU's are fuckin worthless for mining crypto.

>>725698254
I look like this and I play games exclusively on SteamOS (Arch based).

>>725704489
they can pop more memory in it. Even if the memory is soldered down they can be unsoldered. If it's a good enough deal they'll be worth it for resellers and middlemen to do conversions on them for data centre usage

>>725704317
you sound like a neoliberal who supports endless western immigration because we need to heckin' compete with Chinese slave labor

>>725704659
it's not a good deal for servers.
you're being retarded.
these things only have fucking 6 cores.
it would take like fucking 5 of these to match an ancient threadripper.

I have the Ryzen 5800G APU in my PC. I wonder how this new chip in the Steam Machine compares to it.

>>725704317
First off, for any kinds of farms people use ASICs and more obscure, specialized hardware. They're not looking for general purpose. In the case of AI, it's primarily nvidia GPUs for their tensors.

Second, it's not really possible to buy everything up because valve does direct to consumer and they can just look at your steam account history to see if you're a sock puppet or an actual consumer who really wants the thing. It's what they did for the steam deck and it successfully minimized scalping.

>>725704920
China, because of the chip embargo are piecing together anything they can get their hands on. Comparing it to the practice of priority western customers for chip like Microsoft isn't comparable.

>>725697062 (OP)
>This thing is gonna sell like hotcakes if priced right
Steam hardware is only sold on the steam storefront.
99.9% of people buying these things are present PC gamers who find utility in owning useless shit that does the same thing their PC does.
I know I will be buying one, but this is an incredibly niche market, on the level of VR kits not sold for under $500 by facebook.

Nobody will be buying this over a PS5/6, a new Xbox, or a Nintendo Switch 2. That was never in the cards and will never be in the cards. For that to even start being in the cards, Valve would need to start selling it on other storefronts and mass produce it, which will never happen. They're probably only making about 500K of these for the launch.

>>725703196
nobody. there's a microsoft/adobe shill in every thread that covers any alternative that they can't control.

>>725703639
$299 in this economy? no way. i looked at prices of budget PCs with similar specs without an OS and they're all about $700

>>725698983
Iirc the base model lowest storage steam deck was sold at a loss, i could see the same thing happening here. Especially if they can get the price down to $300-400ish

>pre-built with linux (so you know half the software you want won't be able to run on it)
people are gonna fall for this

>>725701164
>in your browser
I want you to do me a favor, take your finger and stick it way way up your ass

>>725697620
Just install Windows and it'll do those.

>>725706749
>winjeet spreading fud

>>725697210
My pc from 2015 has 32gb

>>725705258
There are a lot of current Steam users who have lower spec machines running end of life operating systems. About a third of Valve's user base may be in the market for a new machine in the near future.

>They're probably only making about 500K of these for the launch.
That would be massive. Steam Deck's first batch was only around 10k. It took them quite a while to even hit 50k a week.

>>725707185
Valvejeet shilling trannyware

>>725706749
>average IQ in india is 70
i think most people can read and see this machine as a gaming platform, not a platform to run your microjeet and adobe slop

Lifelong xbox player here. I'll be throwing my series x in the trash and getting the cube. Steam knows that xbox is dying and wants to put the final nail in the coffin. The cube feels like it is made for me.

>>725707636
SeX is stronger

It looks like Hatty Hattington

shit will sell well in 3rd world

>>725697062 (OP)
I don't like Steam or paying for games. Having a PC and not some weird little cuckbox console allows me, as a gamer, to live that dream.

>>725707573
>>725707185
https://youtu.be/OmKrKTwtukE?t=184
>3:04
>run whatever software you want
so they are already false advertising

I'm so afraid of the fucking price.
I don't need a shit machine, but I WANT IT. Honestly I'd buy it even for 1k, but I hope it sits at ~500. And I need (want) the vr goon glasses... pls don't let it be over 1k....
/v/ros, can you give me an accurate price for both???

>>725708216
you can run it on the steam machine IF YOU WANT you retarded jeet, its just optimized for gaming and you can install windows if its that important

>>725708460
659.99$ for 512gb model, 759.99$ for 2tb model.

>>725698254
no... NO.....!
im uninstalling steam right now fuck this im moving to epic

>>725697062 (OP)
>if priced right
buddy why do you think they never showed any of the prices? These will flop just like the last steam machines.

>>725708460
probably $900 for the machine, vr, and controller but no one knows

>>725708613
>These will flop just like the last steam machines.
But why? Valve has come a long way since then and the Steam Deck proved they can make a successful hardware product.

>>725697574
>Can you turn your PS5 into a desktop and install an office suite program to write on?
I have my laptop for this shit

>>725697062 (OP)
its not going to be console price, they've already said entry level pc price, so it'll be over $800

>>725708537
that's a lot of mental gymnastics to say you're buying a pre-built with a barely working OS

>>725708686
Steam Deck is uniquely useful hardware.
Steam machines are just a prebuilt PC, being sold on a storefront where everyone who sees it will already own a PC of some kind.

>>725708551
You know what, I believe that, but only because the price is oddly specific, well done.
>>725708617
>probably $900 for the machine
WTF I can get a fucking used full AMD pc and install bazzite on it. But I want to CONSOOM valve shit.

>>725708686
The steam deck was a novel product, they are releasing a not so novel product into an extremely competitive market.

>>725708838
>you can only play 99.5% of all videogames ever released instaed of 99.9

>>725697062 (OP)
I have it on the "might be cool" list. But yes, it's definitely all about price. This thing is a gimped entry level PC. But as long as its price reflects that, I have no issues with it at all. Hell, I might even pick one up for casual gaming.

>>725708805
Yes, but valve sits in the same boat as nintendont and gaystation, they can sell hardware at a loss, because they earn thru gaymes.
>But now that I think about it... valves boot loader isn't locked and people can install windoze, heck not even that, you can get alternative stores on SteamOS or pirate... I bet they know this and don't sell at a loss... anons... I don't know what to think...

>>725708805
>Steam machines are just a prebuilt PC
Yes, but marketed as a console. I believe its audience is PC players who want a couch co-op machine/travel desktop, and console players who haven't transitioned to PC yet who could use this as their stepping stone.
>everyone who sees it will already own a PC of some kind
You're right about this, though. The biggest hurdle is this only being sold on Steam.
I wonder if the Steam Machine will be the first Valve hardware to be brought to an actual retailer like Amazon.

>>725708987
>I bet they know this and don't sell at a loss
Anon they literally advertise on the Steam Machine page that you can just install whatever operating system you want on it and that they don't police what you download because it's your PC.

>>725697062 (OP)
It basically has to be less than $500 (leaf bucks) or else it's in the same price range as the PS5, which is vastly superior. If it get be priced at $350 like the steam deck, I can see it selling hotcakes and killing Microsoft at least.

>>725708987
Listen, the reason why Nintendo and Sony do that is BECAUSE their games only make MONEY if people have the HARDWARE.
Valve's hardware exists as an ancillary piece to existing hardware the consumer already has. Valve is not trying to compete with Nintendo or Sony either, because you can buy a Switch 2 on Amazon. You cannot buy a Steam ANYTHING on amazon.
>>725709040
Those aren't hurdles, Valve isn't targeting a console user demographic. If they were, this wouldn't be announced through Steam.

>>725709040
>only being sold on Steam.
And no ADs irl or on normie tv
DOA

>>725698846
Deck can emulate PS3 and X360 with mixed results. this thing surely can do it.

>>725700000
Based post and get. I used libre office for a year before I figured out how to pirate Office 365 and it was garbage. It's good for basic text editing, but once you do advanced report formating or macros, it just completely falls apart.

>>725709153
Nope. PS3 and 360 emulation is still in their infancy and probably won't get much better due to the architecture. Even my 5070 PC doesn't have anywhere near acceptable 360 emulation.

>>725709132
Do they not do tv ads for the steamdeck?

>>725709216
A good 70% of PS3 games are playable though, and it's only getting better.

>>725699290
bullshit

>>725709058
>Anon they literally advertise on the Steam Machine page that you can just install whatever operating system you want on it and that they don't police what you download because it's your PC.
Yep and because of that open sauce cuck mentality, they CAN'T sell at a loss, serious companies get even with 1 launch title. Okay it's over some faggot could just install Windows 10 LTSC on it and just use Blizzard and Epic Games, without giving Steam their shitty 30% on ANY game. Yep... it's over they just sell hardware with an OS preinstalled. wtf

>>725709216
>360 emulation is still in their infancy
fixed it for you

>>725697405
It's a console peripheral for people who play most of their games on Steam. Why the fuck would it do the things a PC can do? Retard.

>>725700885
What are the chances that retards try to download stuff or customize it to where it just bricks or becomes inoperable??? Will Steam get sued?

>>725709431
The vast majority of people won't install windows on their steam machine though. Why? Because windows fucking sucks on these devices. Hell, these steam devices are pretty much marketed at people sick of Windows bullshit.

>>725709431
Anon I don't know how to tell you that they really ,really don't give a shit.

>install Windows 10
You don't even ahve to do that to get Blizzard store or Epic Games store or any other launcher on Linux lmao

>>725709549
What? The dude just told you. It's a PC? How does one "brick" a PC? You'd have to almost trying to do it on purpose to even get close.

>>725709595
To be fair windows just sucks regardless of device

>>725697062 (OP)
any one that want a console wants a switch or ps5 no one outside of review channels will get one

>>725709549
you have phone brain.
you can't brick computer hardware by installing a different operating system on it.

>>725697620
>steam machine can't run Catia
Lmao dead on arrival, wtf was Gabe thinking

>>725708752
valve has actually invested a lot of time into making linux usable for gaming.
of course, the moment valve loses interest in the dead end OS and makes their own all of that compatibility falls apart.

>>725709692
Fair point

>>725697062 (OP)
>8gb ram

>>725709158
If you do "advanced report formatting or macros" it sounds like you need to switch to a real job.

>>725709845
*8gb VRAM, 16GB RAM.

>>725702243
What? I'm having this issues on Windows. I'm saying that on my steam deck it runs with no problems

>>725710013
works on my machine.

>>725708752
i am buying it and i already use linux because i don't need your jeetOS. cry about it

>>725709640
>Anon I don't know how to tell you that they really ,really don't give a shit.
Why? Okay let's ASSUME, just in theory. If people would buy valve hardware and don't interact with anything steam related and just go for 3rd party launchers.
Sorry... I'm just adhd confused, my point is just: this is an indicator for me, that valve hardware isn't subsidised. Or are they aware that gaymers will go to the steam store no matter what? Sorry I can't think rn... ESLing hard.

Lets say a Ps5 is like the steam machine with an unlocked bootloader. And you could install windows or linux on it, wouldn't it be dumb for sony to sell it at a loss?

Because of this I just think that the steam machine has normal pricing and not "here is your super cheap console"

>>725697062 (OP)
Everyone who's into PC gaming already has a PC, most likely with as-good or greater specs.
Who does this appeal to? Consolefags too scared to touch a desktop?

>>725701927
My bad. I want to relax on a recliner while I play my games instead of hunched over a monitor playing League or whatever the fuck you play

>>725697731
At least recommend Krita and not trash like GIMP

>>725708805
It's a console with your PC library on it, which is something no other console has. Its a tighter niche than the deck and frame but it still makes sense to include.

>>725710121
>If people would buy valve hardware and don't interact with anything steam related and just go for 3rd party launchers.

Then they've still sold hardware, they've pushed the branding, people talk about the Steam Machine and might reccomend it to their friends.

Marketing and profit is more complicated than just the manufacturing costs.

>>725710135
Yep, even my older build is better, but I'm a fag and will buy anything from daddy gaben. And because it's loonix

>>725710121
Thats the same reason why the next xbox will cost above 1k, xbox just knows that people will ignore their store and buy cheap games keys for steam and epic. So I assume that the steam machine will have a high price.

Can the steam machine run EU5 well with its specs? Games like that are the only reason I'd buy it.

>>725710061
That's great. I'm arguing that PC gaming is a fucking pain in the ass because for some people a game can run flawlessly but for some the game can be a complete shitshow.

Having something like the steam deck or steam machine that streamlines everything and makes troubleshooting easy. All without having to sacrifice any freedoms that comes with pc gaming.

it's going to be $1,200 and no one is going to buy it

>>725709431
It's obviously not a direct competitor in the console market, it doesn't even come with a controller. Valve isn't releasing a system, it's 4 different products intended to be used in conjunction with your PC and/or each other.
Think about it for a second, how the fuck would they compete with these multimedia companies when they're entirely gaming-focused? It would be retarded and you're retarded for thinking it.

>>725710234
I don't like that answer, but yea it makes sense.

>>725710374
>EU5
>Running well
>Ever
Good joke

>>725710418
>it doesn't even come with a controller.
Omfg, is that true? Anons? Sauce?

>>725701287
I think you're full of shit anon.

>>725710065
>jeet jeet jeet

>>725710389
and you'll still run into problems exclusive to you because you'll mess with settings that 99.999% of people wont since you're autistic
there is no hope for us, anon.

they could sell it at a loss if they wanted to because you can only fucking buy the thing on THE STEAM STORE and if you have it installed already it's likely you buy 99% of your games on steam.
they don't care if you "go elsewhere" because you aren't going to.

muslims will pray to this box

>>725697062 (OP)
VALVe does what Ninten-dont!

Never got a VR headset before. How are the specs on the Steam VR headset? I just wanna play some vidya and blast some porn with it.

>>725709123
>Valve isn't targeting a console user demographic
I think the PC audience for this is small, though.
The Steam Deck did things that no one's gaming PC already did. You can't just pick up your whole battlestation and carry it into the next room with you or easily travel with it.
But the Steam Machine is just... a small desktop PC. The only audience in the PC market will be PC players who want a second PC for like, their living room or something. Or a PC small enough to be travel-ready, but stronger than the Steam Deck.
I can't imagine that being a very large market, though. Especially because the Steam Deck's docking capabilities mean it can already fill both of those functions by itself, so the only market for the Steam Machine are people who want that functionality AND need even more power for the games they want to play in their living room/while traveling/etc.

>>725710687
>they don't care if you "go elsewhere" because you aren't going to.
trvke

>>725710774
linus racemixxing tips did a video on it

>>725710205
As a ps5 only player I like it, I don’t have a Steam account but I dig how this could shake things up. They felt it had a market so I’m hopeful it meets their expectations. They said roughly 20% of deck users were playing docked so that was enough to push this initiative and I’m interested in how this plays out.

>>725710813
you talk like a redditor and your shits all retarded

>>725710845
I don't watch youtubers except for watching documentaries, bat/bee/monkey videos, music, and ball joint doll tutorials. give me the run down

I think the audience for this is going to be people slowly moving off of Windows. A prebuilt Linux PC with easy setup and a brand name will do a lot for general audiences. I think sometimes people forget that even most PC gamers know shit all about computers. They just see Windows becoming worse and Linux as something mystifying to install themselves.

>>725710932
i didnt watch it

>>725699017
What. PS4 emulation does not need a cpu that strong.

New gamepad looks great. It basically the ultimate gamepad for PC.

>>725711041
SteamOS is pretty easy to use, if it's in a console I can see Xbox types moving over now that Gamepass shit the bed.

>>725698208
This is a good idea. I hate my shield pro.

>>725710710
underrated post

>>725711041
trvke#2
>I think sometimes people forget that even most PC gamers know shit all about computers.
This, even most of /g/ and /v/ is retarded. My "Frens" are PC Gaymers and basically don't know anything, most of people don't even know how to look for answers and ask LLM's obscure questions and give up when the LLM delivers outdated information or hallucinations, because they think LLM's can't be wrong.

>>725710687
Also, they undoubtedly struck a deal with AMD. So it's not like they are paying retail prices for the CPU/ GPU/ whatever.

Shame it can't run shit like Clip Paint Studio or Photoshop out of box.

>>725697062 (OP)
>tranny colors

>>725697062 (OP)
It would need to be like $600, if it were released today.

>>725711404
Good point, there might be hope

>>725697062 (OP)
the sweet spot is the 400-450 bux mark, Valve can afford to recoup those losses

>>725711461
>neurotic fixation, don't troon out, anon. seek help.

Honestly this thing is gonna be a fuckin monster for an emulation box. And I know arcades that do emulator box stuff can go for way cheaper, but some enthusiast could pretty much put any collection onto something like this as well as some modern options. The Deck was already good enough for it, this would be absurd.
I don't think it's gonna be playing the latest and "greatest" games without compromises, but it seems to be punching above its weight more than expected.

>Decent PC specs
Why not just get a decent PC

>>725710630
microsoft's ceo is indian ya pinhead

>>725711471
Valve can afford to sell it at a loss, so perhaps $400-$500. They know pricing at $600 would kill it before arrival.

>>725711041
as a deck owner, the black magic that Steam OS uses especially with Protonup-QT is one those 'have to see it for yourself'

>>725711618
Unfortunately some people (mainly console babies) are that dumb. Nonetheless this is a great entry point for them without bothering someone else to install all the required shit on their PC.

>>725711238
Gamepass users still believe $30 a month give them the best deal in gaming. They ain't moving.

the people doubting this being cheap are forgetting valves probable strategy here being the exact same one they ran with when they first made the steam-deck
sell em at a slight loss using their absolute money pit of steam profits as a fusion until they can streamline parts to make em all around cheaper to produce then make up via sheer number sold
problem is, i'm not sure it'll have as much of a compelling market as the deck or even the frame does right now
because most people with a sizable steam library may already have a decent enough PC, meanwhile the people who are mostly gaming on their couch already have a console they're committed to

>>725711404
not to mention they aren't selling it at retail so they don't have to pay walmart to stock it on a shelf.

libreoffice is better than ms office because you can actually open libreoffice files on your phone

>>725711952
I mean a 1TB OLED Steam Deck is $650 USD right now. Something that's way stronger but not quite mid-range PC spec intended for 1440p native and up would have to be at a minimum of $800-900. Shit I'm trying to think up a budget computer that would be stronger than this thing and it's creeping past that, partly due to RAM shithole AI hell. If they sell at a loss, that's a hefty loss.

>>725697620
You can run photoshop in linux using compatibility tools if youre willing to follow a tutorial and pirate ps (which you should because adobe is a company that steals from its own customers)

>>725711772
This is mainly for deck players with no pc or those in the Steam hardware surveys running really low end pc’s. This isn’t going to attract many away from ps5/6 or switch. The xbox is in a unique spot with play anywhere so many players will already have a pc so this won’t be all that great to them unless it’s a budget laptop.

>>725711605
i never understood the "emulation box" people.
can't you just do that on your already existing gaming PC?
if you want another setup in your living room or something you probably have an old PC that you still have after you upgraded at some point in your life and those things can emulate old games extremely easily. you can already buy used/old mini PC's that can emulate games.

>>725711672
How? If the fucking steam deck sit's at $600???

>>725711952
They can afford to make these things cheaper because they don't have to pay any middleman.
No retailer like BestBuy or online shop platform like Amazon taking out a cut.
Everything goes through them in their own ecosystem inhouse.

>>725711070
looks bloated and uncomfortable as fuck

>>725712203
and also yeah gimp is dogshit and krita is better than gimp but still trash, it's sad that the best photomanipulation program is owned by a dogshit company

>>725712187
>>725712278
the deck comes with a very expensive to manufacture screen.
hell, screens are like 90% of the cost of smartphones.

>>725712275
Not everyone's setup is normal, and some people love doing weird shit or all-in-one solutions. I want my aunt to get to play SSX Tricky again but I don't have an easy setup for it from my desktop.

>>725711998
True that as well

>>725712278
The Deck is a handheld, parts for handhelds are way more expensive, and that's besides all the R&D costs.

>>725712373
I hope this is true

>>725712245
Docked Deck can already deliver similar experience and performance, it's a solid 1080p device and you can even push for 4k 30 fps with native FSR or the Deck's built in FSR. Most of the time Deck owners already own a gaming PC already, Deck is an enthusiast's device.
The GabeCube is for console babies or people who want to get into PC gaming but don't want to pay the retarded price for modern PC hardware or dealing with wangblow. They want a cheap prebuilt with plug and play software, which is why Valve released the GabeCube as the solution.

It's good prebuilt poorfag solution PC for $500-600. And I do hope steam is part of the box for best deal.

>>725697062 (OP)
Bro it's a steam deck without a screen with the power of about a ps5. You can take that thing with you to anyone's place for example and have whatever game you want set up for people as long as you have the controls sorted out.

>>725712463
mobile phones have been in massive processing power stagnation for years now so the cost of the actual computing hardware that goes into a phone is fucking peanuts. the form factor just can't get better because they need to use more power for gains but they have no way to effectively get rid of the heat so they're stuck with low powered, efficient CPUs.
just look up the price of a replacement OEM screen for any flagship smart phone and then look up the price of replacement motherboards. the screens are the only way to stand out in the smart phone space and it's what all the brainless phoneoids stare at all day.

>>725712679
>with the power of a PS5

What will your faceplate be?

>>725712651
Also unlike typical prebuilt PC this one is specially designed by gigabrain valve engineers so quality will be granted.

>>725712874
A nazi flag

I'm impressed with the size not gonna lie. But I wish there was a "pro" version for 100 or 200 more USD (assuming it is cheap).

>>725712874
My cock and balls. In all seriousness A tiny display (maybe with a touchscreen) would be funny).

>>725712874
if you're a real gamer you're just going to take it off for better cooling performance.

>>725697062 (OP)
>The Gabe Cube
Probably runs better than my current PC
Anyone critical most likely doesn't realize a ton of people would see this as an upgrade to their current hardware
If it's affordable I think it could be the best selling console of all time

>>725712874
Cunny

>>725712926
>More money
>>>>(assuming it is cheap)
Just build your own mini-ITX PC at that point. I believe they will release the steamOS desktop ISO after the GabeCube release too.

>>725712860
The PS5 is weaker, shit, it can't even play pic related

I was dying for one of these a year ago, but if I’m being honest a PS5 does everything I need for AAA and living room gaming. Then when you consider next gen, it will be underpowered for my UE6 slop. I’ll still make up an excuse if they somehow manage <$400

>>725712874
Solid orange to turn it into a literal orange box

>>725713098
This.

>>725697062 (OP)
>if priced right
by this you mean if they meet an impossible expectation that would require to sell at a huge margin loss

>>725712926
True, I’d pay closer to $1000 if it’s got the price to performance ratio I expect

>>725710135
Its a couch pc and it has greater ease of use in conjunction with a desktop and other steam hardware. Its ideal for a streaming setup if you already have a pc, I could play my pc from my couch while streaming it instead of getting a console.

>>725713098
It’s said to fall between the series s and ps5, keep in mind it’ll likely be launching base model around $600-700. The ps6 and nextbox if rumors are true drop a year later and will blow this thing out of the water for a similar price. This was a good idea but not sure if the timing is right feels a bit late or way too early.

>>725712874
gonna put a big fucking image of gaben right on it so it really will be the gabecube

>>725713367
a $40 fucking android stick you plug into your TV can stream games.
>but it does it better
any cpu made in the last 8 years has had dedicated hardware decoding for the most popular video codecs. It takes absolutely FUCK ALL to process a pristine video signal, leaving the only crutch to be networking speed and latency - AKA anything with WiFi 6+ or just a gigabit ethernet port will be more than enough.

What release title will it come with? Half life 3? Kek i sure love how all the attention just disappeared for that.

>>725713540
It's success is wholly dependent if they announce Half Life 3 next week or not.

>>725712874
We should go back to the good old days of shitty wraps

I have a 4060 8gb already, I get it will be a comparable experience, I can run pretty much anything on ultra or high at 1080p

>>725713994
I want a hot rod with blue flames, then a big skull and crossbones next to it with the words “never forgive, never forget”

>but they could install windows on it
Why the fuck would someone do that retard

Welcome back, Xbox 360.

>>725714581
Now if only Xenia wasn't an absolute shitfest. XEMU's rapidly improving, if Xenia unfucks itself any time soon (or someone rises up and does it for them instead), there will genuinely be no reason to bother with the modern Xbox for back compat, its only major selling point now.

>>725699790
>a $600 PC that I can play all of my already purchased games on
they subsidized this thing for the past 23 years

>>725714305
A 4060 is ~30% faster than the GPU in this thing. It is essentially a binned RX 7600M. Worse RT and upscaling too.

>>725714551
Unfortunately some people are that retarded. Deck resellers in my country (which the Deck isn't available to buy) always offer to install wangblow on Deck for their guests, or put up wangblow installation on Deck tutorial videos right on their website.

>>725714450
That sounds so badass bro, I'm going to get one with an alien smoking a huge blunt with 'take me to your dealer' in an airbrushed font

PC gaming has gotten so expensive that the Steam Machine actually seems like good value presuming a price point of around $600-$700 for the entire package. Shocking how bad shit has gotten.

>>725713985
What’s next week? Game Awards are Dec 11th that’s all that comes to mind.

>>725697062 (OP)
>This thing is gonna sell like hotcakes
if you're trans maybe

>>725712874
I'd put him as a little sticker on the side and have a tf2 faceplate

>>725715018
Girls with short hair can look lovely, I hate those freaks for ruining it for us guys who like it.

>>725697062 (OP)
I'm betting it's priced at $700 for the 512 GB.

>>725714805
The deck run some games almost has good as Xbox Rog I don’t know how you can look at that and think
>I’m gonna install windows

>>725697062 (OP)
If you can emulate games on it like the Steam Deck then yeah I might invest in it.

Looking forward to seeing the device being turned into a miniature Macintosh with a modified OLED faceplate.

>>725715250
Unfortunately some people do live and die by windows because it's the only thing they know best and they assume Linux is the land for 200 IQ nerds only, this is especially true in 3rd world countries since the common masses barely have any exposure to other computer OSes like Mac (which only rich kids can afford).

>8gb vram
DOA
>>725698978
>mid range pc
lmfao

>>725697062 (OP)
gamecube sold like shit
gabecume will sell like shit

>>725713712
You just red pilled me. I already run Linux, I could even install bazzite and use wifi streaming for my TV or Just a very Long HDMI cable... But I want to consoom the weaker valve hardware... Is this dumb?

>>725715617
gamecube was gooooooooooooooooooooood, it had PSO and uhhhhh Gotcha Force

>>725715582
>Linux
The performance overhead is reduced by like 50%. The difference in games running on Windows vs. Linux is nutty.

>>725713016
Cachy, nobara and bazzite are a thing.

>>725712908
Yea, good ol mass produced qualitiy instead of hand picked top notch parts.. drone

>>725712874
The default one, just with case badges.

if you deliberately install windows on a handheld then you should be unironically be hanged

>>725712874
I like the wood one they showed

>>725715895
>hand picked top notch parts.
>prebuilt PC
ESL

>>725716015
But how else would I use Microsoft team…

>>725697062 (OP)
>4k 60 with fsr
>means it will struggle to hit 1440p 60 native today
>wil stop running shit in a few years
Pc consoles are a meme

>>725716191
ETD actually

>>725716213
why would you use teams
>in b4 work
unneet normalfaggot begone

just use the web version. theres also a flatpak but i dont use teams so i have no idea how good it is

>>725706749
>Saar I am Brahmin saar, only Dalits use Linux, saar

>>725697062 (OP)
Only Nintendo can make video games. Only Nintendo devices can play video games. You will never play a video game. You're not gaming with that snoy controller in your hand, you're pleasuring a nigger with your anus like the tranny that you are.

>>725697062 (OP)
>>725697210
Yeah because all hardware reveals that don't include the msrp always had great pricing follow up

>>725716608
>It's afraid!

Bottom left: H (censored) and also "Soon" right above it. Gonna get interesting

>>725712297
>looks bloated and uncomfortable as fuck
what women think when they see you

>>725716608
This is the thesis statement of /v/. This is all I've seen on this shithole since 2015 in some varying degree. I hope Nintendo is destroyed by lawfare so I can watch every namefag forum squatter who flooded this place from gaf vacate their skull on live. Get fucking destroyed.

>>725697467
>8-core
According to gamers nexus they were going to not have the chip soldered on, but they need the thermals and extra mm for height constraints.
Which sounds like bullshit to me. The ram doesn't look easily up-gradable as well, I think its under the massive heat sink.

GPUs with 5x more TDP than this thing can't play ANYTHING in 4k. Its for emulating N64 games and playing your old man backlog that's been growing since 2008. This will be the weakest, worst performing console ever. Its flatly not going to fucking work. What the fuck even is linux? There's no Nintendo sticker on this thing it can't play a video game.

>>725716596
kek, made my day saar

>>725698254
>troondeck
They are based in Seattle, please understand

>>725717519
I can't believe anon would say this...

>>725701164
Because it's in your fucking browser. Noone asked for that.

This channel made an estimate based on costs of similar hardware, and he says it might cost $425

these are the "people" shilling you linux

>>725698254
I don't even hate the idea of the steam machine etc. But it's always off-putting to stick circus freaks in your advertising.

>>725717831
Valve can also afford to sell the device at a loss so we may see $400 for the 512GB SSD version.

>>725717861
Hell of a comb over.

>>725717872
that's what normal people look like in seattle.

>>725717890
If they manage to price it at 400 it would sell like crazy...

How do you do, fellow women?

How will they compete with this?

>>725712874
we all know damn well at least half of the plates will be just tranny flags

>>725717965
Getting enough people to get hooked into steam is more profitable in the long run compared to selling expensive bricks.

>>725701164
Because browser is terrible place to run your software from

>>725717831
>>725717890
>cheaper than the cheapest PS5
>as cheap as the cheapest, weakest Xbox, but has access to the entire PC library and Xbox doesn't even have exclusives anymore
If Valve can pull off $400, they're going to fucking obliterate the console market. Nintendo might survive because they still have true exclusives, but what the fuck are Microsoft and Sony going to do?

>>725715663
no that guy is living a meme. unless you enjoy 5+ frames of lag streaming is a meme

>>725697062 (OP)
it wont, its just a fucking pre-built with apu (about as good as the low-rage rx6600/ rtx3060 at best)

it will be sold at a premium, Valve wont sell it at a loss like console vendors often do
and it wont be cheap, not with all the hardware prices going up thanks to AI scam

>>725718057
>but what the fuck are Microsoft and Sony going to do?
Putting their games to Steam?
Oh wait they already did that...

>>725717980
One on the right is just fat with a bad hair cut. One in the left is 6 foot 2 and would forget he was pretending to be a woman if you called him a tranny.

>>725718045
I might get one at 400... But 500, 600... No console is with that to me.

>>725697062 (OP)
No Multiplayer Games.
Dead on arrival

>>725718075
It's amazing how you just come in here and just put out like 4 false statements in one post

I honestly hope they have a variety of faceplates at launch like the xbox 360 had. If the HL3 rumors are real, I bet they will have a lambda varient.

>>725718179
they are all true and you have nothing to say

>>725718035
you can bet the chinese have already spun up an assembly line to make these.

>>725717229
>What the fuck even is linux?
something your indian mind can't comprehend. valve said they're working with AMD to bring FSR4 to their Steam MACHINE (not a console, you fucking retard) and the performance will only get better over time. you also don't need 32gb of ram to run games because linux barely uses 1.5gb on idle with steam open.

>>725718104
The majority of Xbox and Playstation titles are not made by Microsoft and Sony.

>>725718257
already confirmed to be a rx7600 you massive retard

>>725698208
>plex server
You know you need space to store your animays right? That thing won't have more than 2tb and no way to expand it.

>>725718057
Play pretty much the same games but better? Steam has a vast library but don’t pretend casuals care about choice. They care about what’s hot and most of all free so Warzone, gacha, Fortnite and like 2-3 games they might buy yearly like CoD and sports titles.

>>725718315
>no way to expand it
It has USB ports.
External hard drive.

>>725718362
>buy a unitasker box to use other unitasker boxes
Thanks for the chuckle I needed a good laugh.

>>725718334
>They care about what’s hot and most of all free so Warzone, gacha, Fortnite and like 2-3 games they might buy yearly like CoD and sports titles.
They could play those on the Gabecube while still paying less for the machine itself, though.

>>725717831
He is actually basically spot on.

The steam machine uses laptop parts.
The GPU keeps getting touted as a RX 7600 - no. It's a binned 7600M. That's the "semi-custom" part.

Look up a 7600M laptop with other similar specs.
Remove OEM margins - Dell/HP/Lenovo have usually 20-23% margin on their builds.
Then remove $100 for the screen, KB, and trackpad that a desktop has no use for.

You end up with $400-$450. That is what it would be if they sold at cost.

>>725718315
>>725718362
Can replace internal drive with nvme 4TB NVMe. Or NVMe to 5x SATA SSD Port.

>>725718436
>hard drive
>unitasker box
Might as well call every component of the PC a unitasker box.

>>725697731
should've said Krita instead of GIMP

Am I supposed to be happy Valve is attempting to integrate android games into their ecosystem?

Mobile gaming is the hell spawn that we want to keep away from us with a 50 foot pole, not cozy up to in the bedroom as they push unskippable adverts every 1.5 minutes in their game for maximum advert viewing.

Really nonplussed about it for this reason.

>>725703639
>if it's above my budget then it's dead on arrival, they need to subsidize my broke ass because... uhhh well they just have to!
You want one, but can't afford it, that's okay, you should know by now how to cope with it, considering the amount of things you can't afford

>>725718314
thats below rtx3060 level apu (estimated, worse in reality in most cases)
you are tech illiterate

>>725699854
Buy a bc250 ps5 apu board instead

>>725697062 (OP)
>sell like hot cakes
>still an enthusiasts device that can only be bought on Steam and not your average brick and mortar stores.

>>725718057
Sony and Nintendo have a huge shoe in the door with existing digital libraries and actual being in stores. Only being sold on the Steam store is a huge barrier to entry for anyone not already a part of it. Sure making an account isn’t hard but then you gotta wait 2-3 days for shipping when many would prefer same day pickup. This isn’t going to convince ppl to leave their existing libraries, friends and experiences at any price point.

>>725718635
>he thinks people still buy things in person
Lmao

>>725718662
They do. I'm sorry you don't go outside and just rely on your mommy for all your needs.

>>725697620
That's not a real use case and you know it.
If you use those programs for work someone's paying for them and giving you a work computer anyway.
Home users would be running something like Affinity (freeware) and OnlyOffice.
The PC use case is shitposting and watching youtube, which you could do on the Deck too.

>>725697620
>Photoshop, Office, stuff like that.
So things you do not use on a gaming device?

>>725718726
Only old people still buy things in-store. Functional adults shop online.

So serious question. How much are we actually expecting this to be?
Isn't the DRAM parts getting assfucked by pricing now?

Assume Valve goes really aggressive here and barely breaks even or even sells at a loss.

What's the ballpark? 500-700 dollars for the 512gb ssd model?

what went wrong with pc gaming?

>>725719135
>>725717831

>>725719141
>How did you know we were poly

>>725719135
$500-$700 is pretty safe bet for base model, yes.

people are expecting it to be under $400 lmao

>>725719135
Bro above 600 is impossible

Itll be 450 for the base model

>>725717006
>I think its under the massive heat sink
Anon, the whole damn machine is under it

>>725719218
7600M laptops are $650-$750.
This is a 7600M """desktop""".

It can easily be priced at $600.

base model 450
controller 70
epik gamer bundle with both 500

>>725710196
>TFW no maid/assistant bot that looks Libbie or Kiki

>>725718483
Gaming laptops are generally garbage, but how much of that is due to the form factor turning them into griddles?
How much better would the Steam Machine perform with adequate ventilation?

>>725719307
Laptops have everything else packed into it

This is 600 MAX for the 1/2TB model

>>725718543
>attempting to integrate android games into their ecosystem?
Where did you hear this?
The announcement video said that you can stream Steam games to your phone via Steam Link, but that's not the same thing.

>>725697062 (OP)
It'll sell similar numbers to steam deck

You guys are delusional
Thisll be 499 that GPU is ass

>>725719217
If it's not 300 it's doa. A cast off apu mining board would be a better value

>>725719402
Laptops have ~23% margins. Screen, KB, and trackpad are definitely not more than an extra $100 in parts to COGS.
Literally them selling it at cost to you is going to be $400 to $450.

>>725719217
with valve acting like a public company beholden to DEI investors (look at the troons on the ads) i would be shocked if it's MSRP is under 700 bucks

Regardless of cost, they need to actually make an effort to sell the machines/controllers through retailers and Amazon. If its just going to be more steam wait lists, it will end the same way the first steam machine did.

By the way Half Life 3 (60 bucks) is gonna be a bundle with this.

Don't say you heard it from me.

>>725719135
$999 for the cube, the vr, and the controller

>$799 leaked price

AHAHAHA
DEAD ON ARRIVAL

This shit is going to flop harder than the deck oled. Remember that $600 piece of shit that can't even play games at 800p60gps meanwhile the ally z1 extreme is like $320 used, has a full gamut 1080p IPS screen, 120hz, 2x faster.

No matter how much people try to convince me valve isn't scummy, they always will be.

You can't charge $600 for an pled screen. That thing was worth $400 max yet consooomer steam drones ate it up

So it's a 7600m (somewhat worse?) gpu equivalent? What is the cpu equiavlent?

Bros? Whos right? And why are there so many FOSS haters? I want this thing, but I'm not sure.

Every steam game is going to be review bombed with
>WAHHHHH THIS GAME DOESN'T RUN AT 4K 120FPS ON MY STEAMCUBE FIX IT NOW @VALVE DO SOMETHING

>>725719817
>799 leaked price
Source?

>>725719114
>he uses the credit jew rather than hard cash
ngmi

>>725719861
steam.com

>>725719817
>ally z1
Kek

>>725719135
It will be $699 usd. Lets just say I know a guy who knows a guy. Screenshot if you don't believe.

>>725719817
>leaked price
where?

>>725719829
Slightly better 7600M. It can do 1080p 60 fps high-ultra right now. It won't in a years time on new titles.

>>725719952
They are used on ebay for cheaper for the z1 extreme.

The deck LCD even when it came out was an underpowered, shit screen piece of shit.

Valve went full Jew mode with the OLED. That thing is worth $380 or $400.

Also the legion GO is cheaper now, and it has a trackpad and better features.

>>725720047
Alright, good to know. What about the cpu?

Also no fsr4 does not sound good.

What are we calling this new console? The uncbox or the slopbox?

Will Playstation keep releasing on Steam? Noe that Volvo has a "console" that "could" be competition to the ps5 and future? I heard rumors Gaystation is working on a native PC App.

>>725720242
the estrogen box

>>725720135
CPU is actually pretty good. Only 6 core / 12 threads is pretty meh for the whole "use it like a normal PC!" aspect as 8 core has become like the standard for workstation use, but for vidya a high clocked Zen 4 6c/12t chip is actually better than what is in the PS5/Xbox.

>>725697062 (OP)
This is revolutionary.
We never have to use Windows ever again.
I can't wait for this.

>>725720373
It's an emulation beast desu

>>725720242
Gabecube.

But I already have an all AMD gaming PC with a 5600X+6700XT at 1080p. We all know this thing won't run 4k and I probably won't upgrade for another 5 years until PC parts get cheaper.

I also don't need steams ecosystem.

I use heroic games launcher as it has interface controller support with artwork and use antimicroX for the odd game that has no controller support like most recently escape from duckov. All my games are pirated.

Why the fuck would I need more? Steam offers me nothing besides the few multiplayer games I have there.

Though I'm probably going to buy the new controller for the trackpad support.

Gabecube erotic

>>725697062 (OP)
be less obvious you retarded shill
>This thing is gonna sell like hotcakes
>linux
>no upgrades

>>725697620
kek
Wonderful bait

>>725720386
>We never have to use Windows ever again.
I don't see what the Steam Machine has to do with that.
You could already put Linux and Proton on your desktop if you wanted to.

>>725719852
>That response of the guy flipping out after other guy said Valve can't afford it
Yes, Valve can't afford it. This man probably wouldn't be able to differentiate the definitions of assets, equity, EBIT, net income, and revenue. Microsoft, despite having a shitload of money, still takes out loans for various ventures for example even though they're making hundreds of billions in revenue. Meanwhile, MS can internally handle marking down a product and losing billions in the process. The OG Xbox for example lost between $5-8b according to former Xbox chief Robbie Bach due to price cutting it to be competitive.
Valve does not have that luxury and even Gabe, who owns half of Valve, is worth around $11 billion. Price cuts, trickle up fast in lose revenue.

>>725720460
kys dickrider

>>725720328
you make a good point. 100% of the owners of this think are going to be transgender

>>725718178
Because I don't have room for a PC

>>725720386
>This is revolutionary.
>We never have to use Windows ever again.
>I can't wait for this.
can't wait for it to flop you retarded shill

>>725720495
You basically have a steam machine, install bazzite and be happy. For me it's just the novelty, Form factor and efficiency

>>725720617
This is the same pajeetsoft that is now increasing the price if their hardware and services

>>725718315
lol

>>725709549
>bricking a pc

>>725697062 (OP)
PS6 will be around $600-$700
The Steam Cube has to be less than $600 because otherwise it's dead. $500 sounds like a good price, otherwise people might as well just buy a PS6 instead, a Steam Cube also has the same limitations a Steam Deck has, it's just Linux, and you'll have to deal with any issues that OS have and accept that some games won't run because of kernel level anticheat.

>>725720707
Im feeling the 512gb is gonna be a painful 450 bucks
Theyre gonna push it hard to reach that prince

>>725720707
Extremely based. 1TB of Roms loaded on an SD Card, that I will never Play
T.average tinker valve hardware user

>>725720373
Nice. I know it's not productivity focused but will it still be passable for non gaming stuff? Especially since you can upgrade the ram.

Will it finally be the system to outsell the PS2? With Xbox and Sony dying I could see their combined player bases pushing it over the edge.

>>725720824
>it's just Linux
Unless you choose to install a different operating system.

>>725712874
Here's your steam machine sis

>>725720984
>JewTube meme
Kys

>>725720837
Absolutely. You could comfortably use a 4 core Zen 4 chip to do basic internet browsing and media consumption.

finally i can play on the Cleaveland SteamBox. a real turd of a system

i mean for a budget option its not bad
its gona take like $1500 to build a pc with new parts to build one worth a damn

fucking $800 doesnt get you much anyways

>>725720831
512 @ 499, 2tb @ 699

>>725720683
Nah I do everything in house I archive my own games and my own custom controller configs for antimicroX as well as a script that setups up heroic with all my games, offline artwork, all the options in .json heroic config file to make sure everything is exactly reproducable on any PC as long as you have the script and games. I basically made my own steam but open source. Its truly decentralized for personal use.

The controller profiles people make on steam usually suck and antimicroX has better mod options and trigger dampening that's more indepth. I'm pretty sure steam doesn't support trigger dampening unless its using a trackpad to aim like on the deck.

I dont like being tied to an account but I'm still buying the new steam controller.

>>725721026
I would tell you the same, but we all know you are dead inside. You have been dead inside for several years now :)

>>725721198
You are right. Thanks for being kind:)
Don't kys pls

also this thread boils down to

>OMG the steam machine cost $800
>I can build a pc for $700 that does the same thing
>now let me go back to gooning to fortnite porn on my $2000 pc I hardly play games on, and when I do its so new shitty remake I hate

niggers are just hating on spending like $100 like they dont have a $2000 pc

>>725697062 (OP)
Took only two decades two make.
>what went wrong
Outsourced tasks weren't done correctly.
Literally everytime, keke.

>>725721372
>now let me go back to gooning to fortnite porn on my $2000 pc I hardly play games on
Based.