Thread 725713443

Why are chinks so bad at making games?

They should just stick to gacha

Only Japan and USA can make a good AAA games

>>725713443 (OP)
I never even hear about these games until /v/ artificially brings them to my attention. I don't believe I'v'e wishlisted a single Chinese game that was ever shilled here.

Moar anti china jeet spam

>>725713629
>Only Japan and USA can make a good AAA games
good morning saar

>>725713443 (OP)
Let me guess. Journos hate it cause it has attractive females

>>725714882
Yeah, same reason Expedition 33 and Baldurs Gate 3 reviewed so poorly. Dumbass

Honestly, there seems to be a certain prejudice against Chinese games in western gaming media that sort of seems to reflect the prejudice against Japanese games in the early 10's.

There is zero originality in them. If you play one of them you can instantly recoqnize from what western games they just lifted game mechanics from without zero thought on how to implement them

>>725717876
Which games did Wukong lift its mechanics from? I need recommendations.

>>725718213
>chinksect trying a basic "gotcha"

Not falling for that, Li-jian wing wongdoo.

>>725717876
Name five (fünf) completely new mechanics in any game that came out in the last 10 yeara.

>>725713443 (OP)
chinese games all phone home. they should stick to making flashlights

>>725718347
>no answer

>>725713443 (OP)
Not everything can be as kino as Wuchang or Wukong buddy

>>725719187
AI limit clears both

>>725714882
They don't seem to like the game-as-a-service stuff, such as menus leading to sub menus leading to more sub menus, with menus periodically telling you you've got a new notification, so you've gotta click through a bunch of shit to find out what it is. Games such as Diablo 4 do the same thing though.

>>725713443 (OP)
better question is why they are so bad at shilling.

>>725719327
maybe if you're an anime fag

>>725719187
wuchang was trash, chink

>>725720585
>chink
Yea your opinion is biased and worthless
I'm a tested 99.6% white American and I view and I'm compelled by my autism to express things objectively and candidly, and Wuchang is good. The level design, skill tree design and boss design are excellent. It's like a quality older Fromsoft game with QOL improvements that gets dismissed because its a copycat from the rival country.
I played Wukong a couple years ago and it was also good, there are like 50 bosses and they all have unique and good movesets. I thought Wuchang was better though.

I'm looking forward to Tides of Annihilation. Hoping for the same quality as the WuGames. I don't know how the Chinese studios keep doing it on their 1st or 2nd tries. Probably it is their govt giving them shit tons of money for soft-power purposes, and having 1.4b people to source from.

Anyway fuck off with your politics. Games come first

>>725713443 (OP)
>no niggers, no troons, no feminists or stronk wymyn
yeah, it's gaming time, you stinking woke journalists

>>725713443 (OP)
Yeah it's bad.

>>725717876
Exactly what I felt about Stellar Blade

bugmen games have as much soul as their developers

>>725722349
a game can have soul just by being really high effort / quality too. Originality is important but it's not the only factor in soul

>>725721250
>It's like a quality older Fromsoft game with QOL
>It's like something that's not original
I have to but in here. Why is it always with China that they're never trying anything new? That it's X game but better? why not compete with games that don't have many competitors? then you're likely to make something original sometimes. I mean I'm generally against the competitor idea and for make your own truly original vision for you to truly stand out. But if it's going to compete with something at least make your games compete with something more niche.

>>725722349
counterargument:

>>725721919
Koreans still have a bad case of aping too much too. I liked parts of Stellar Blade, but at parts it really felt like a Automata fanfic.

Are you awake yet?

>>725724501
Lmao that's funny.
Still that UI already somehow tells me everything I need to know to avoid this game. Reeks of gacha/GaaS model, instant no thanks from me.

>>725725775
>f2p game reeks of GaaS model
who could've seen this coming

there's only cosmetic stuff in the shop anyway

>>725724128
But why is it an issue only in china? Look at Arc Raiders, the biggest fotm recently and it's just tarkov but better/more accessible. How many games that get 10/10s from journos are actually original? E33 was just a jrpg with real time parrying, something that ar tonelico 2 and paper mario already did 2 decades ago, and likewise Silksong is just a metroidvania.
/v/ overinflates originality when what matters the most is execution, especially for a AAA game.

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>>725718838

Netease slop is so fuckin tasty tho bros.

>>725728469
I mean people really enjoy marvel rivals.

>>725718213
Wukong is literally just nu God of War with offset dodge and souls shrines lol. I loved Wukong and got 100% in it(dude who designed achievement for seeds and how they spawn only during certain days IRL is a nigger faggot though) but Wukong has zero originality. Its a good game but its insanely derivative of western game design.

>>725713443 (OP)
so what is this game? an online single player game like genshin?

>>725728862
Yes over 1 million hours of content truly f2p wowie zowie i heckin love chinaaa!!

>>725728862
More like chink witcher with a lot of side activities. You can join sects/guilds and create your own martial arts. There is a bounty system where if you commit crimes you can get invaded by other players like dark souls.
Once you are done the main campaign, you can do the mmo aspect which has raids and pvp.

>>725726239
>retarded chinkshill was unable to answer the question
>so he tried to deflect to a handful of cherrypicked examples with far more original lore than anything chinks come up with
every fucking time

>>725726239
I agree with you that the whole industry is unoriginal nowadays. Gaming is dead, but that doesn't mean China revived it. They're bloodsucking mosquitos or/ parasites that want to be on top, and that's why praising them is nonsensical. It's not that I demand originality, it's only that I wish for diversity in games where non exists. They just want to be number one at the same creative bankruptcy of both the west and Japan combined.

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>>725729926
But then you also run into the issue where companies who have an entire monopoly on genres have regressed to a point that its fanbase have become captives to the companies because they have nowhere else to go to. Case in point Bethesda RPGs, Grand Strategy games by Paradox, and Total War by Creative Assembly. They are very unique and original games in their own niche but most fans of these games will not shy from telling you how much they absolutely loathe the companies handling the IP and wish some other company would make competition but when it does happen, nobody buys the competing games, which leads to other companies just making games in safer genres.

>>725729926
>lore
We are talking about gameplay though. also cherry picked? All the fotm games that come out each month are derivatives of some other game.

>>725713443 (OP)
They're too busy with becoming the most powerful nation on Earth.

>>725713443 (OP)
>umm the game is good but why is it GAAS? I hate GAAS
Every review of the game so far. Why are they reviewing a genre they don't like? This some boomer shit, they just refuse to engage with a genre they don't understand and yet they need to have an opinion on it

>>725713629
Ow'bout Europe? They made Witcher,cyberpunk and ex33. And EX33 is Japan killer.

>>725724128
>never trying anything new
Yeah what's with all these hybrid MMOs where you play SP campaign alone but then can carry your progress over online and if you do a crime online they put you in prison for days in real life and then other players can throw tomatoes at you on your walk of shame to reduce your sentence?? I mean how unoriginal can you get??

>>725714429
Black myth was ok for the spectacle but not something I'm looking to go back and play. Like everything they do, it's impressive but soulless.

>>725730951
Europe isn't a country, stop claiming glory from people whose language you don't even speak

>>725730987
Name 5 soulful games this decade

>>725731097
Nier Automata
The Witcher 3
BotW
Elden Ring
Cyberpunk after years of patching
Ori
Undertale
>T,those don't count
Sure things, squirt.

>>725713443 (OP)
I couldn't tell you, because Wuchang and AI Limit are some of the best souls game to have come out since bloodborne. Not too hard, but a lot of emphasis on combat complexity and freedom; and exploration like in demons souls respectively.

>>725730814
>still can't explain it
chinks really don't get how intelligent minds operate

>>725715314
>baldur's gate 3
>attractive females
stop

>>725731695
This decade is the one that started in 2020 dumbass. Only things you listed from THIS decade are ER and CP and if you think they're soulful, you'll love Genshin because it's the same 200 hour sloppa type game that play with a podcast on

>>725731995
nta but your question is based on a false assumption. Chinese games are the most original ones today. In fact there's nothing like WWM on the market
>but it looks like Ghost of Sashimi
Only looks like it, it's a hybrid MMO. Also Sashimi was an AssCreed clone so you should be embarrassed bringing that up

>>725713443 (OP)
>reviewing the multiplayer game with a big focus on players' interactions and drama
>servers are empty because you cancerous gamejourno filth and got access to early
>Oh no, the game is bad!
I'm not saying that the game is magically good, but any game journo is a waste of oxygen for the last ~20 years. I will see if it is good in a few days. Right now I'm concerned about the stupid stamina system and if combat is too counterattack-heavy.

And about originality: just read about this game a little. It has so many original and stupidly fun ideas I haven't seen in an MMO for fucking years. All multiplayer games are too afraid of doing anything outside of the formula, and here you have a fucking faction of murderers that REQUIRES you to kill 10 people weekly, or you will be hunted yourself.
What was the last big MMO release? New World O think? What were the original ideas in the NW? The generated sloppa-kill-5-wolves quests? The shitty combat with a few skills? And I know that it was something else in the development. Its state on release only proves my point: only the safest and most boring shit are approved in multiplayer games today.