Thread 725719284

WOW I can't wait to play those hundreds of great new VR games!

>>725719284 (OP)
Never understood VR, just sit in front of the screen, you get the same experience without paying for VR.

>>725719284 (OP)
>A more expensive rip off of the quest
No thanks.

>>725719284 (OP)
Fuck games, I want immersive gooning

>Obvious latency stress test game to let journalists try the headset's wireless out is Beat Saber
>None of them were allowed to try Beat Saber
That makes me worried about the controller's input delay if anything.

>>725719284 (OP)
Will it visualise a giant screen when playing normal games? How does it work?

>>725723046
Big screen in front of you, with optional greyscale passthrough video of your surrounding.

>>725719284 (OP)
You can play non VR games on a giant screen literally anywhere.

if it has AR and pas through it can be fun
VR is sweet but there isnt enough shit to be playing vr contently
at least buy a budget head set and try it out
it wont last long but it is fucking sweet while you ae having fun

>>725723198
literally no you cant
take your 60 inch tv back and forth between your bedroom and living room, then go take it with you to a hotel room.

>>725719348
You have to stand and move around and play something good like Superhot or Alyx to get the full VR experience, it's nothing like sitting in front of a screen at all.

>>725719284 (OP)
wow i cant wait to play that one VR multiplayer game for hundreds of hours without a shitty indian designed console that requires my facebook account

>>725723150
Genuinely curious how much Valve's saving by not bothering with a color passthrough camera. Even the most budget ass cellphones have passable camera nowadays.

>>725719284 (OP)
Cmon man there's half life alyx, bone works, hot dogs horseshoes and grenades and.... Ummmmm vr chat?

>>725722937
it wouldnt be the controller, it would be the video streaming latency, which they said at the dongle, is like 6ms+system latency. everyone so far said the controller tracking feels fine

>>725723639
I think it's more them "safety proofing" it because they probably think retards can't tell the difference between "VR reality" and actual reality unless it's obviously black and white.

>>725723656
everything but vrc is worth the $300 it takes to get into vr

vrc is nice for playing solo and walking around worlds that recreate shit
walked around halo 1 and 2 maps, cracked a smile

>>725723576
Keep in mind that despite that mockup, the headset does not support mixed reality. It's got a black and white passthrough mode only.

>>725723773
what

>the cameras included in the new steam headset are monochromatic
>you have to pay extra to install color cameras
lol

>>725723924
Colour cameras don't work with IR emitters. Trust me, you want the IR emitters working.

>>725724000
quest 3 works perfectly

bump

you know whats gay?
the quest 3 doesnt have a IR camera like the quest 2 did
cuckerburg could of sold you bootleg night vision googles and you cna do shit in the dark

I'm amblyopic. How bad would VR be for me?

>>725723656
>Tea For God
>NMS
>Walkabout Mini Golf VR (not a meme it's good)
>Into the Radius
>The Light Brigade
>Beat Saber (modded)
>HL:A
>Arizona Sunshine
>Superhot VR
>I Expect You To Die
>Budget Cuts
>Thrill of the Fight
>Tabletop Sim

>>725724047
Yeah, and it cost them having to install a fifth camera to do so with the task of strictly just being for providing colour to overlay on the information the greyscale cameras provide on the passthrough. Battery life is at a premium on these devices.

>>725724143
thats why you buy a 3rd party external battery
vr wirelessly kinda sucks, and odds are people are gona just use a wire anyway

>>725724229
>vr wirelessly kinda sucks
I cannot go back to wired after getting a solid Quest 2 wireless PCVR setup going. I do not like the weight of a cable on me or worrying about some propriety expensive cable twisting up over the months and dying on me. Haven't touched my Index in forever, I really should have just sold it months before this announcement since the value will be going down now.

>>725724397
>since the value will be going down now

Same boat. It might not crash entirely, since valve's base stations are still considered The Standard and I'm sure some people will prefer the knuckle controllers. Might be able to sell it as a set for a couple hundred for someone looking to get into outside-in VR.

>>725724528
The only thing that'll hold value are the base stations (later models, not the earlier ones that are all prone to dying) and the Knuckles, and that's solely due to Beyond 2.

>>725724397
well the video will allways have compression and there will all ways be latency,
so people just end up using a wire unless you are running things off the head set its self, but then you get phone game quality, which kinda ruins it

>>725724691
I run my Quest 2 at 150mbit w/ VD's h265 option, and I don't notice the compression unless I'm doing some stress test that intentionally fucks with video encoding, which I never see during games. Frame's foveated streaming will make it even less of a non-issue if it works as well as they claim.

>>725724094
>Arken Age
>Walking Dead
>Moss 1&2
>Windlands 1&2
>In Death

And all those ports like
>Distance
>Serious Sam up to BFE
>Thumper
>Polybius
>Tetris Effect
>Vox Machinae
>Blair Witch
>The Falconeer
>Obduction
>Myst
>Paperbeast
>Midnight Walk

>>725725281
ontop of all the mods to make non vr game vr
you got cyber punk, and other shit
and i think you can run doom and doom mods in vr

>>725724581
Yeah. I do have a BSB2 on order a few months out. I'm 75-25 on whether I'd want to cancel it at this point. The cost isn't a huge concern for me, but the convenience of an inside-out set might trump the quality improvements and I'd rather not waste money on something that'll gather dust.

Can someone tell me how the hardware for this vr headset compares to the rest of the stuff on the market? Is it good? Looking for something that's good hardware that isnt' aids softwarewise.

>>725726113
the deck 3 is the only good vr gaming headset at the moment
this new one could be better but we still need to know all the details and cost

>>725719348
what screen? you are inside the game world

>>725724229
Wrong, fake, gay
I can barely notice the latency or video encoding running on my Pico 4, i imagine the Frame with AV1 and foveation using eye tracking will be even better for maintaining perceptual image quality

That said i don't see anything good enough to make me want to upgrade
>>725719284 (OP)
There's hundreds of Alyx mods on the workshop, friend. Some of them are even not shit. (Played Post-Human last night. Good stuff.)

Do people actually still care about VR? I cannot name more than 5 games off the top of my head that are VR exclusive or designed with it in mind, and half of them aren't worth investing into.
Why does Valve keep trying to promote the technology if they cannot even be bothered to make games for it or help creators do it? Source 2 has been around almost 10 years and it hasn't seen anything worthwhile besides CS2 and Alyx (Deadlock is a pre-release still)
You think if HL3 will be announced as a VR exclusive people will go apeshit

>>725719284 (OP)
>didn't read the press release
lmao /v/ cant read but only react to shit like monkeys -oh wait

is sitting down ok? I really don't want to stand up to play vidya.

>>725720107
you have plenty of that and valve is making it way easier with better pc integration and streaming not needing to be a nerd to set it all up

>>725719348
have you tried it?
you're not in front of VR, you're inside of VR.

>>725724229
will this even have a port for cable connection?

>>725729839
USB-C for charging and data

>>725719284 (OP)
beatsaber machine

>>725723576
and that the headset resolution is only 2160x2160 so that screen taking up 1/3rd of your image is 700x700 in resolution. awesome

>>725726113
the chipset is about 2x faster than quest3, still mobile shit, but they promise win/linux apps emulation
the optics/screens are just a bit better on paper

>>725719427
>>725719284 (OP)
though I'm really considering if I should gift my quest 3 to my brother and get this one. we mostly play vtol vr and other flight sims together plus clayhunt vr and demeo. The Q3 is still a bit too cumbersome for me to use regularly and I can never make my wifi good enough to go wireless (plus fuck meta).
But its so easy to pirate quest games its not even funny and this one looks like it lacks passthrough.

>>725730412
>>725723773
yes, thats why I'm a bit surprised they dont have a microled version

>>725723773
it has cameras on the front
so maybe it does

>>725723656
>bone works
with tracking only in front of you? wont work nearly as good as how it did with outside tracking.

>>725719284 (OP)
is this designed with glassesfag in mind?

>>725730673
just get contacts you silly waffle

>>725728149
>Why does Valve keep trying to promote the technology if they cannot even be bothered to make games for it
They literally made a new Half-Life game exclusively for VR.

>>725730596
cause it would cost you 1k more while lacking brightness

>>725726305
>>725730417
thank you darlings

>>725719284 (OP)
vr is for porn

>>725730704
My eyesight keep getting shittier, i can't wear contacts

>>725730867
really? I knew the new microled headsets were super light and bright but REALLY expensive and needed lighthouses so I didnt get them, even though I really wanted for flight sims.

>>725731242
thats what they all say that oled is not as bright
do you require pass-thru for sims?

>>725719348
it's a pov porn glasses

>>725731779
its sometimes useful to answer the phone or answer something on PC half blind without messing with the clunky headset that I finally managed to make sit just right.
I assumed the lack of brightness was a problem on OLED TVs around 5 years ago with CX (which I bough for a really good discount but never managed to upgrade because a new one costs an arm and a leg) and was supposed to be solved by now?

>>725730917
how bad is it? my brother has like -6 on both eyes with stigmatata. I am lucky to have between pl/pl/-0.25/pl (repeated measurements) on both eyes but with -2 and -1 stigmata and for both of us contacts were a godsend for vr and clay shooting. Without contacts all headsets looked like there was a smudge on my left eye no matter what I do