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AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.

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>(05/11) Emacs Update >>523372032

its over

https://files.catbox.moe/y0f6v5.png
It's legitimate science.

>>526721789
But are you going to conduct more experiments?

>>526722453
Lots! If I wasn't going to bed anyway.

>>526722620
Where's your dedication to science?

Is it just me or is image gen speed up on Novelai

>>526722683
To be renewed and full of coomergy for a fresh new day.

>>526722771
Feels about the same.

>>526721526
in my pants

Handstands seem to pose a difficult challenge for the AI. I guess it requires a more intrinsic understanding of anatomy

>>526726351
>prompt a character raising their arms
>flip the image after
Retardbro...

>>526726351
>the carrot

>>526727452
Do you seriously think that's what a handstand looks like?

>>526731743
Yes.

>>526731743
Yes.

>>526731807
>>526734261
It wouldn't work because the hair would flow the wrong way btw

>trying to train babby's first LoRA
>prepare 40 training images and 30 reference images
>1024x1536
>estimated time to completion: 11 hours
this is a HEAVY task, I sure hope the resulting LoRA actually works

>>526726351
It just has a hard time with upside down stuff in general

>>526736013
Best of luck to you. I trained a LoRA before, a long time ago
And if I can do it, so can you

>>526736013
Just use NAI. It knows every characters. It can draw OCs. It is idiot-proof. Local is only free if your time has no value.

>>526737830
local uses less time thoughbeit
>local, queue up 100 images, play vidya while I wait for them to create in the background, browse them at my leisure, also I like how they look better than 4.5
Training a LoRA is just for fun and to see if I can do it, and even that, the 11 hours is just running in the background right now. Preparing the images was the time consuming part, but also the fun part as I thought about what kind of LoRA I wanted to bake.

>>526738504
>100 local slops vs 1 inpainted vibe-transferred director-tooled enchanted kino by NAI
You are an idiot.

Wtf is this
account settings --> account --> manage cookie preferences

>>526739061
It's a legal requirement for Europe
GDPR stuff
https://gdpr.eu/

>>526738713
local has img2img, inpainting, and even 'vibe transfer'. It's fun to learn how to do them. Plus it will never, ever get taken away from me.

>>526739061
Apparently, unlimited gen isn't a good business model.

>>526731218
That's a pretty girthy carrot

>>526721420
Jesus Christ

I wish a fish would suck my dick.

Finally found an artist mix I like.
https://files.catbox.moe/pfg0ch.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2lb8op.png
https://files.catbox.moe/gnsbt1.png
https://files.catbox.moe/v88bc2.png
https://files.catbox.moe/wmnmlc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/mq9k79.png

>>526750004
That's a cool mix, I really like what it does with the handprints

>>526749697
Tom Cruise, is that you?

me cum

>>526758457
Did it make a big mess?

>>526646791
You're welcome.
Yeah, that's why I was unsure.
Specific targets, yes, but that's why 100 seems like such a large number of people that are necessary for ensuring this doesn't happen.
Not as pervasive, sure, but I'm sure someone else in their hallway would happily turn in a tip of something odd for a bit more money. It is some amount of risk.
That's fair. It does bring up the question of why deal with her now when others on that list are likely in higher positions of power. It's definitely valid for him to wonder about. Given he does take pride in dealing with high-ranking people, which would involve dealing far more security on the way, there must be something about her that is just more dangerous at that time to require dealing with her now.

Last thread archived at 451? Shame!

>>526764642
I was asleep ;_;

>>526764642
If a general die like this, it should be forbidden to bake again for it.

The reveal for P4R inspired me to do some cooldown stretches with Chie.

>>526770953
I hope her new voice is less like Golden's

>>526653343
>>526660768
Ended up buying it, it's pretty okay. Thanks for the info.

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Concerns about the future of Text-Gen
Question: Text Generation
I need to get something off my chest about NovelAI's text-gen future and the concerning patterns I'm seeing.

When Erato launched, it became clear to many users that it under-performed compared to Kayra in key areas - particularly prose quality, despite having better scene awareness. The community quickly noticed that ATTG and presets felt less impactful, leading to the widespread "garbage in, garbage out" sentiment to excuse this. Even respected preset creators seemed to indirectly suggest the model had fundamental issues (which seemed mostly Llama-3 related).

What bothers me isn't just that Erato was subpar - models can have problems, that's development. What's concerning is the ongoing response from the lead developer. Despite months of consistent user feedback about performance issues, there's still this underlying sentiment that Erato is performing well and that user struggles stem from "insufficiency" on their end.

But here's what really gets me: I recently learned that some of the content sharing involves pre-writing scenarios using Claude 4, which requires an additional premium subscription. So users are paying $25/month for an under-performing model, then potentially another $20 for decent starting content? Even if this is optional, it raises questions about the development philosophy.

I'll be direct - I don't trust the current direction. When you combine non-responses to legitimate criticism with what appears to be monetized workarounds for your own model's weaknesses, it doesn't inspire confidence in future releases.

Am I missing something here? Has anyone else noticed these patterns, or am I being too harsh? The image side of things is amazing, and I'm excited for its future.

I'd very much like to feel the same for text-gen.

not even worth a (you)

>>526776628
>the thread is already locked
lol
lmao

Wish they'd hurry up with 4.5 inpaint.

>>526783575
Unless they acquire more gpus, they physically cannot train any faster, bro.

>>526783693
I'm not your bro, friend.

>>526750004
>Tau
Zog off blue git

How can I actually wrangle Erato into writing something fairly descriptive and witty? I’m not expecting Shakespeare but not matter what I do the output is always incredibly basic. Shit like ‘she took off her shirt. She sighed. She quietly said, “okay, I’m ready to get rawdogged”.

>>526766217
Genuinely thought every anon collectively agreed to stop baking for this general and leave it to rot after checking back after a few hours and seeing nothing.

Dirty minded science

>>526786764
>contucht
Your inpaint, bro?

>>526786764
Drink both

>>526771959
We'll have to see what they do about the voices. Might just be that they take a different direction with the voices altogether.

>>526786838
She's just super horny brained

>>526785245
Garbage in, garbage out.
The most efficient way is to learn from the authors/writing style you like.
For basic bitch style guide, there are
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/37134/37134-h/37134-h.htm
and
https://rentry.org/selfediting

>>526786843
Oh what a terrible fate

>>526789421
That bitch can't into science.

>>526786323
It would have been for the best.

>>526796896
Oh yeah? You won't be laughing when she pile drives you into the bed.

>>526789421
>Oh no! I’m twice more of a subby than I’m supposed to! Guess I’ll live the rest of my days as a vagina cover for a horny scientist.

>>526763028
>Specific targets, yes, but that's why 100 seems like such a large number of people that are necessary for ensuring this doesn't happen.
Oh, the 100 isn't the "necessary" number, the whole idea is that they don't know. The idea is that the dossier is what Yutaka could get together with the limited resources he had in the future, and since he doesn't know whether it'll work or not, he'd rather overshoot than undershoot. (Also the 100 is just because the scenario is very Hundred Line-coded).
>Not as pervasive, sure, but I'm sure someone else in their hallway would happily turn in a tip of something odd for a bit more money. It is some amount of risk.
True. Perhaps he's got some sort of plan for that later after the inevitable gay sex and a change of clothes.
>That's fair. It does bring up the question of why deal with her now when others on that list are likely in higher positions of power.
I think it's more of an opportunity thing where she was someone he saw a good scenario for, or she's one of the more notable names on the list on a celebrity level despite being only a rising star and he figured getting more notable names out of the way early before paranoia about the Ripper reaches its peak was a good idea. Or it's throwing the police off by killing, say, a few corpo types first and then shifting gears to take out an idol. The corkboard he's got going in one of his hideouts must be quite complex.

>>526766217
can't even die right

>>526735161
Also because the palm has to be facing down on a surface

>>526785245
Style tags can help a bit with that. Stuff like "eloquent, descriptive, advanced"

I can't control my horny level.

>>526813382
Why contain it?

>>526799390
If you hate it here so much, why don't you fuck off, and let the people who actually use it alone? Nobody but you benefits from the thread "dying for good", or whatever nonsense you wish upon it.

Slow day? Slow day.

>>526818074
Cause your dick will hurt from cranking it too much. I came to the same scene in a story of being trapped in a cave with a she-orc 5 times within a day, something about acting like animals and the primal need to breed with an ugly fuck.

>>526823020
It's a small price to pay

>going through my old failed v3/v4 gens to see what v4.5 can do that they couldn't
>it can give a character a star of david necklace
i can finally make my ideal jewish demon girl wife

>>526833529
Well, at least you'll be rich.

>A branch of the Tokyo Metropolitan Police dedicated to covering up supernatural incidents with increasingly ridiculous excuses (*"Gas leaks. Always gas leaks."*). Their best agent is a sleep-deprived detective who’s 90% caffeine and 10% denial.
I can't believe mahou shoujos aren't real

>>526842997
Okay, I have no idea why NAI's screenshot tool showed something completely different.

>>526843252
I almost miss the sudden sharp pains
Almost.

>>526805026
Ah, that's where you pulled the reference from. That probably explains some things.
I was thinking about that, actually. Being known as the guy who takes out big business people might make things more difficult for the future of dealing with them specifically, but spreading it around, so to speak, means it's an all-around fear and worry of a lesser amount.

>>526750004
>that mithra
nice

>>526863615
I love tit windows. Even on guys.

I have learned that the latin based adjective for "relating to a rabbit" is "cunicular"

>unlimited Claude Opus 4 at work
>but monitored
if only you knew how much better things could be...

>>526865716
They're just the right amount of tantalizing

>>526867327
That's interesting
I'd cuni her cular, if you know what I mean

https://files.catbox.moe/vyshn5.png
https://files.catbox.moe/oluigf.png
https://files.catbox.moe/g3mxvd.png
https://files.catbox.moe/4h9k2l.png

https://files.catbox.moe/8zn6sj.png
https://files.catbox.moe/sddf7f.png

Some don't approve of the springtime fertility celebrations that involve many women going into the forests to frolic with the beastmen, who are usually the kingdom's enemies.

>>526885196
Ah, I remember your world building stuff
Still working on that setting?

>>526739163
It is not fun to become 'le epic internet man' for this shit. I am not gonna learn how to code.
Listen buddy. I understand the sentiment. And the fact that those skills might become vital in 5 years if we wish to keep doing this. But right now?? You are fucking limiting yourself.

You can't spell therapist without the rapist.

>>526910316
good post

>>526910316
https://youtu.be/3t3XiieGA5E

>>526867327
I fucking love rabbits

>>526867327
Have you any luck with/have you tried generating authentic rabbit legs?

>>526926707
nta
You mean like digitigrade legs?

>>526929629
Rabbits don't have digitigrade legs, they're plantigrade, like us humans, which is the problem with the tag knowledge. Unlike cats and dogs, which walk on their toes, rabbits have huge hind legs and humungous feet. They only adopt a semi-digitigrade form of locomotion when running.

>>526929996
Huh. Interesting, I never knew that

>>526867327
cute

>>526887661
Yep! Map is hopefully finished (been sort of a forever project). And started painting miniatures of the Gods.

what's the most likely reason my v4.5F gens look overbaked?
i'm using the normal UC and quality tags

>>526937208
Overbaked how?
With 4.5, less is more
The tags I tend to use are fewer than the default, even

Inpaint update this week...right?

>>526935906
Oh, that's really cool
You even have miniatures

You know all those 'reincarnated as a...' slowlife slop shows? I want to be a tailor who specializes in animal ears and tails for kemonomimi customers. You need the latest human fashion modified for your fluffy tail, pointy ears or thicc horns? I'm your man. I wonder if any isekai slop light novel with this concept already exists.

>>526942696
Reminds me of this prompt I made about two years ago: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/4989
It's not the same concept, but quite close.

>>526938910
It has only been 12 days since we last received an announcement. Later this month, at best. Take a load off and come back the 31st.

>>526942696
Imagine the cute centaur clothes

>>526926707
Haven't thought much about it really. I tried a few with "animal feet" and "rabbit paws" tags. It seems mostly to be generic furry style. Honestly I'm not sure how one should do authentic rabbit legs for an anthro. It'd look kinda weird imo if she stood upright with her feet fully plantigrade, and I'm not sure how to make the angle of a real rabbit's knee joint make sense on two feet

>>526941121
Yep! Thank you. Been working on this project for awhile. Don't know what the end goal is. Just having fun making it. Worked on it on and off for a long time and then got kind of stuck and wasn't sure where to go with it and AI has helped me get back into it.

>>526952727
Yeah, I've had difficulty in finding a way to get the model to understand it. Hell, even with vibes, it likely cannot. Had I the money, I'd mass commission anthro rabbits with authentic legs. But I do not know how to determine what they should look like?

>>526952727
I tried messing around with the fur dataset, and this is the closest I got to a "true" rabbits foot I guess. It doesn't help that there doesn't seem to be any tags for this

>>526955845
Yeah, the lack of proper tags, and data, is really a stinker. Even the fandom, for as varied as it is, seems to have an odd preference for inaccurate anatomy. Gets on my nerves a bit, but I know I'm tilting at windmills trying to correct that.

>>526955792
>pic
Yeah I was looking at Judy Hopps for comparison. Zootopia's maybe more on the animal side than what I'm going for, but they made the feet work well for her. My concern is that on a more humanlike design it'd look like clown shoes

>>526956446
Eh, better than nothing I suppose. I'll take what I can get and try and finagle things from there.

>>526956083
>Gets on my nerves a bit, but I know I'm tilting at windmills trying to correct that.
Hey, we all have our autistic hyperfixations. Cool references btw, thanks for sharing

>>526955845
Furries are oddly autistic at tagging for so much, yet for basics they appear to be retarded. Still better than danbooru removing tags for no reason at all, and not creating tags for the "obvious tags" under the rationale they're unnecessary.

>>526956806
No problem, man.

>>526959026
>Curry Crusader
top kek

>>526959026
Those damn toilet witches...!

>>526959026
fucking LOL

has anyone tried/is simulating some form of realm or kingdom management? html injections to show basic systems is easy enough, but i for the life of me can't get the models to stop shoving either senseless conflict, anachronistic bs or overall ignoring the tone to me.

>>526970507
You need a big model.

I feel like a good test of model intelligence is 'can it gen a gun that won't make /k/ have an aneurysm and also isn't a standard M4 or AK-47', sadly for my local model the answer is no.

>>526974108
I was gone for a week and you're STILL here?

>>526974419
I got a paid vacation because of my dicksucking overtime

>>526972782
i am using gemini these days, the 2.5 pro itself is prone to being overtly negative and having the npcs just crumble and shit themselves at the slightest conflict, i tried a plethora of presets and none could curb that into bearable levels. i order something, random-ass-eunuch gives me the middle management treatment, i relieve old fucks from their position, everyone QuIvErS with fear. any recommendations? or should i just cut my losses with gemini?

Somebody send this image to the faggot enablers at Anlatan, I don't want to join their discord.
A real life hand got generated without any prompting for it. 3D is supposed to be expunged from the data set, right? If that's a concern for them they might want to know about this.
v4.5 by the way, and yes I know I fucked up the prompting for the text.

Seth Rogan is going to be in an Animal Farm remake.

>>526977352
lol that is fucking hilarious

>>526977352
If your actual hand looks like that, I feel sorry for you.

>>526977352
It's probably from a joke/meme edit, honestly

>>526977352
This will be a meme 5 years in the future

>>526977352
That's clearly a cock, as indicated by the text

>>526973703
I'm not sure any model can do guns to /k/ standards yet

>>526972782
>You need a big model.

Have we a new artist repository yet?

I like this dress(?)

>>526987056
Hunting down rabbit girls and forcing them to breed against their will

What is sammy cooking

>>526989275
Nobody gives a shit what Saltman is cooking.

>>526987056
The fringe reminds me of a swimsuit cover-up

hmm, rabbit paws

>>526980915
4U (4 Undecillion parameters)

Remember, rabbits are generally so lean that you can't really sustain yourself off of them.

I like watching the vhs tapes of movies off of the internet archive.
Ju-On: The Curse is pretty good.

>>527001438
All I remember is the bitch ghost killing a bunch of people who didnt deserve it

>>527001648
She needs correction.

>>527000941
Rabbit starvation is a hell of a way to go

>>527004684
I remember summer dragon would break the fourth wall like this all the time

>>527001648
>>527001683
>the sequel is 30 minutes of recap and 40 minutes of new material
What the fuck?

>have this chuuni mind-reading power that should trivialize non-robot encounters
>character goes insane trying to use it on tentacle monsters
cinema

>>527010564
That's what happens when you try and stare into the void, I guess

So... They gave up on textgen? I can understand why after Erato.

>>527005939
That's japanese media for you

wtf is a gethsemane

>>527019782
>Gethsemane (/ɡɛθˈsɛməni/ gheth-SEM-ə-nee)[a] is a garden at the foot of the Mount of Olives in East Jerusalem, where, according to the four Gospels of the New Testament, Jesus Christ underwent the Agony in the Garden and was arrested before his crucifixion. The garden is a place of great resonance in Christianity. There are several small olive groves in church property, all adjacent to each other and identified with biblical Gethsemane.
You're hitting religious vectors.

>>527019782
How did that even come up?

>>526720228 (OP)
>https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>last updated 20th june 2024
how is NAI doing now? is it worth it?

>>527035658
Imo if you’re using it for imagegen, Opus is still good for unlimited gens a month (with some restrictions). Don’t know about alternatives since I’m not into image-gen so maybe another anon can answer you.

For text-gen, I recommend using whatever front-end you like and making an openrouter account and place your newly made key inside, it’s not as difficult as it looks. I placed $10 in so I can get 1000 gens a day with the free deepseek models (I maxed out my token response limit), not so sure when my credits will expire but it’s been a few months and my $10 has taken me quite far.

>>527035658
>>527013258

>>527001683
Has anyone just tried fucking her so she won't want to kill anyone anymore?

>>527045627
Bet that broken neck deepthroating would feel so weird.

>The really nice, really consistent artist mix I used all the time in V4 is completely busted and unusable in V4.5.
pain

>>527035658
Just subscribe now, text gen update is coming anytime now. Trust me.

>>527012224
They haven't. But feel free to believe that, and welcome back from your ban.

>>527012224
Learn to backread and quit shitposting. An update is on the way: >>526944616

The chatshit finetune is making me regret subbing to Chub. Every day I pray another company makes a storygen alternative.

>>527054491
>>527054756
Yeah, that textgen update will arrive at the same time as AetherRoom

>>527060135
I don't care about AeR.

>700B
>60k context
>unlimited generations
>cheaper than NAI
Why isn't Chub in the OP?
I see no point in keeping NovelAI there when their secret sauce wasn't enough to improve Llama 3.0.

>>527061575
This isn't /aicg/.

>why isn't chatshit in the OP
... was anon dropped on the hewd as a child?

>>527037051
Last I checked their policy, they are currently set to expire after a year

>>527048859
I like the style anime v3 gives when you put in jcm2 without artist: before it. So far I haven't been able to recreate it in 4 or 4.5. In general making stuff in jcm2's style seems more finnicky in the newer models, but v3 struggles more with hands.
Such is the fickle nature of our NN overlords.

>>527069647
I noticed JCM2 really likes to generates the red/pink eyeliner thing in v4, its odd.
I'm a vibe whore though, I don't really use artist names at all any more.

>>527070640
>I refuse to use the best imagegen feature available for obscure, moronic reasons!
People like you are profoundly retarded. Vibes are inherently inferior to the reproducibility of artist tags.

>>527070640
Yeah I should try using vibes more

>>527070784
Damn dude, they're just saying what works for what they want

>>527071568
He's the type of faggot who thinks NAI should remove artist tags. He's on record as saying that in the past.

evidence: his ass

>I'm a vibe whore
How much of a shill do you have to be for your identity to revolve around the feature of a product?

>>527072149
My evidence is that he's shilled vibes and spat in my face when I told him I don't care for them, and I'm wasting my Anlas on encoding them. He is a bougy fuckwad who thinks preferring reproducibility is a pintless thing. i don't give a shit how well tinkering for hours can make an image with richman vibe waste, I want something that works. His shit is fuck.

>>527071568
Vibes + JCM2's tag might end up being the best bet once it comes out for nailing his(?) style overall. Especially since anime mode in v4 already does tend to sway towards some familiar artist styles on its own if vibes are used - especially with quality tags. I've seen JCM2 crop up a bit on its own. Same for Cyancapsule, Alkemanubis, Chunie (in furry mode), and some loli artist who I can't remember the name of.

Artist tags > vibes, no matter how much you try to gaslight people into wasting their Anlas.

>>527072805
is there some other desirable anal charge I'm unaware of besides vibe transfer? when 4 first let it out I couldn't manage to spend more than 4k over a month and that was after I had to reencode all my typical images a single time
t. idort(?)

Vibes would be better if they didn't cost Anlas. Until they fix that, all you're doing is supporting the gamification of NAI. Be a responsible user and boycott vibes.

>>527073180
Vibes should not cost anything at all. That they require me to spend my Anlas is the number one reason I dislike them.

At the very least, they should be free for Opus.

>>527073362
fair enough, especially for gens using over 4 images that is an utter kick in the balls there
I can't imagine (admittedly in ignorance of tech) there were enough madlads parking an autoclicker on a 12-vibe gen long enough to strain their systems, let alone a sizable amount of people managing to cobble up something coherent with even 8~ images shoved into the blender

>>527070784
I don't use artist tags either because the furry dataset doesn't have them.
And I use vibes a lot.

>>527075581
>I enjoy outdated slop
Further evidence you're retarded.

>>527075706
Nice reading comprehension.

>>527076226
>he doesn't realize the furry dataset hasn't been updated since V3
Nice outing yourself as a retard.

>>527076350
I am aware of that. However, it's completely irrelevant to this discussion. You're just deflecting because you're a troll.

>>527076851
It is not irrelevant to this discussion. If you were a normal person, you'd understand that vibes aren't better than artist tags. They have different use cases. You're the troll who thinks people who like artist tags are inferior to you and your rich, smug bastard ass. Why do you continue to dodge the fundamental distinction we have presented? I do not want to spend my Anlas and waste hours of my time finetuning the model to give me something "great', when I could instead not waste Anlas and get something decent enough. Accept that, do not respond to me again, and, going forward, do not phrase your love for vibes as hatred for artist tags.

oh hey it's https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/522904862/#523460645
wonder if he's learned what "sucks" means now

>>527077416
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Must be fun sucking Russian cock.

>>527077238
>You're the troll who thinks people who like artist tags are inferior to you and your rich, smug bastard ass
I do not think this and have never said this.

>>527077610
>randomly shills vibes when people talk about artist tags, completely unprompted, and not at all helpful to the original guy
You can't seriously not realize how your comment looks to observers, nobody is this autistic!

>>527077610
It doesn't matter. He'll just autistically cringepost at you for an hour now because you happened to tingle his prostate by saying you don't like using artist tags and he has to fly off the handle and call everybody Russians now. It's a recognizable pattern.

>>527077786
I'm sorry you feel that way.

>>527077501
it's not disagreeing so much as constantly levying insults unprompted at others expressing opinions
why didn't YOU agree to disagree?

>>527078215
I would have if you said as much, instead of digging up slander to accuse me of being a troll. Here. We can do that now. Apologize and we can "agree to disagree".

>>527076851
That image...
>she

I look forward to being able to attempt using negative emphasis to tone down elements vibe transfer may attempt to bring into generations desu

>nobody is allowed to voice any negative sentiments toward vibe
>anyone who does is a troll
Is this really what discourse has devolved into?

>>527078548
>negative emphasis
How have you been finding its use so far? I haven't tried it yet, but it sounds interesting. Haven't touched 4.5 much yet.

>>527079009
Why diss how something you don't fucking use works on a model you haven't "touched much yet"?

Didn't he *just* argue against treating everyone who disagrees as the same person?

For the record, negative tags are very useful. Now, watch as #527079009 decides to arbitrarily decide they're not useful, all because I dared to provide positive input to yet another thing he won't use, and then act like his input on it for 5 is the next best thing since toasted bread.

>>527079510
He also says people should be allowed to voice negative sentiments towards vibes, but boy, the moment you say anything negative about artist tags you're a troll.
It doesn't matter. None of it matters. It's just autistic gibberish and responding to it will never achieve anything, the goalpoasts will forever shift as he throws a shitfit and demands apology forms signed in triplicate that he was always correct and right about everything and you're just a paid troll for INSERT RANDOM THING HERE.

>>527079009
I really like fiddling with them, it reacts differently than the same tag in the UC so you can stack them if needed and they give you more control

>>527079510
He is the same person as >>527070640. The person whom this entire discussion started from in the first place. The tag names make that much obvious.
>>527079835
What goalposts? My ire is directed toward a single person, nobody else is getting caught in the crossfire. I already acknowledged that they have different use cases. He's the one pretending like vibes are a replacement for artist tags.

>>527080273
Following this chain, you responded with "People like you are profoundly retarded.", then "Further evidence you're retarded.", then "Nice outing yourself as a retard.", all while not caring to even quote posts accurately.
It seems like you were the one who deviated from the discourse, if anything.

For the record, back when they didn't cost Anlas, which for anyone paying attention, as I have stated multiple times now, is the crux of the problem I have with them, I did enjoy how they worked on some gens. When combined with artist tags, too, they were neat. But now that they cost Anlas, I don't have much of a will to use them. Why do you people ignore that? Why act like that's not a valid concern?
>>527080612
>something decides to bring up something unrelated to the convo
>I have to treat it with validity
>meanwhile, nothing I present deserves equal treatment
Double standards, much? Here you go then. Allow me to sign an apology letter. Ink or pencil?

And negative emphasis can introduce different styles, which is also fun to mess with

>>527080798
The cost is not a valid concern. The new tech for vibes requires NAI to train a mini-module for them and expecting that for free is completely unreasonable.

>>527080820
This addition (from the sounds of it), the image2image inpainting strength addition and the emphasis :: additions have all been really nice QOL.
And style discovery is my major fetish, sounds fun.

>>527080798
He clearly brought up vibes as a disclaimer for his opinion on the effects of the JCM2 artist tag
>I noticed JCM2 really likes to generates the red/pink eyeliner thing in v4, its odd.
>I'm a vibe whore though, I don't really use artist names at all any more.
As in, since he uses vibes, he doesn't use the JCM2 tag, an artist tag, enough to know if the behavior he noticed was due to bad luck or actually representative of the tags effects.
You're pretending half the post doesn't exist. You can't be surprised when hurling insults makes others think less of you.

>>527081084
Yes the fuck it is a valid concern. Making it cost anlas inhibits in depth testing by placing it behind a money barrier, that did not previously exist. If it didn't cost money, I wouldn't be upset about it in the first place.
>>527081432
That he didn't have anything productive to add to the conversation, yet decided to add his two cents in anyway, doesn't concern you? Still waiting on that apology from him where he called me a troll, by the way. It's not that much of an adk. Acknowledge I have an equal right to enjoy the features I prefer, and dislike the features I don't enjoy, and we can agree to disagree. Hopefully when vibes arrive for 4.5 they solve the cost. Or, since he likes them so much, he can make a repository of them for the thread, that way they don't have to spend Anlas. That would also be acceptable. Instead of the weird trick he's trying to do by getting people to spend their Anlas, when those are better used for making larger images. He *used* to do that. Weird how he quit doing that.
https://files.catbox.moe/v9isow.jpg

Do I have to sign that in triplicate? Maybe get a notary to verify it? How about a reference or five?

>>527079009
I've been reactive and smalltime with it so far, I feel that there's probably some pretty creative uses for it, especially with emphasis like 10:: :: or -10:: :: being possible
It can help make a character not glow like the sun in a dark setting, most memorable use case I've had so far. Still susceptible to contradictory prompt/tag issues, but it feels nice being able to better prevent characters from outright glowing in the dark.
Makes cosplay a hell of a lot easier too, removing hats, changing shoes, locking away hair colours, removing garter straps, removing horns, removing animal hands in favor of human hands, removing chairs, etc.

essentially, it feels like another, stronger layer of UC.

Why do both V4 and V4.5 look so pencil-art-ish and 'scratchy', for lack of a better word? Illustrious gens look way smoother and just overall better.

>>527083545
Landmine thighs…

>>527083545
I knew I forgot something, thanks for reminding me of that

>>527083524
I like that it, for some tags, seems more useful than uc.
---
Looks like the actual troll decided to shill Illustrious now.

>>527083545
>wrong thread
Fuck!

>making me waste my time signing an apology form
And yet you wonder why I get upset when you fuckers decide my input doesn't matter. I did what you asked of me.

>>527083708
the 3 gens itt with comfyui in the name all look nice and smooth, in a way v4+ can't do. Maybe it's not illustrious but something else, but they look better, I'm sorry

>>527084426
The claims you make are easily disproved. I doubt you'll acknowledge that, or present any evidence to back up your claims. Instead, you'll ignore it, and repeat this same claim next thread. Like you've done for the past several months. Even the actual person posting those gens acknowledges that NAI is better than it. Do you dispute him?

>>527081432
I've not engaged in this whole thing - I appreciate your post (and you), but you don't need to hassle yourself.
>>527083524
>especially with emphasis like 10:: :: or -10:: :: being possible
So v4.5 can REALLY go nuts with that eh? 2:: alone seems to start goo-ifying things in v4.

>>527084635
I signed an apology form. Like you requested I do. Why treat me like I don't exist?

>>527081432
Notice how he acts like a Karen despite me doing exactly what he requested? What, is the apology not legible enough for him?

>>527084635
4.5 has a much wider emphasis range, yeah

>>527085137
I accept your apology. Now let's agree to disagree.

>>527085257
Thank you.

>>527084629
you can't disprove taste. Maybe an artist tag mix can fix it, idk, but default artist tagless style looks very scratchy for v4/5, not nice and smooth. I don't like it. They look like sketches that haven't had the last piece of work done on them or something

>>527085332
I'm not going to engage with any further. Fix your eyes.

>>527085453
That he thinks the images vibebro posted are sketches kinda makes it obvious he doesn't want to engage in good faith.

>>527084635
it really can
just a shame full doesn't have its own dedicated inpainting yet, and for some baffling reason they saw fit to temporarily make it use 4's inpaint when 4 becomes a garbled mess if any of the emphasis values exceed 2::
easy enough to swap over to 4.5curated and use its inpainting at least, it can handle the more extreme emphasis values, but still feels silly

>>527085793
4.5 doesn't have its own inpaiting either. Both use V4's.

>>527083545
Why did bro delete this? People post far worse shit that's "off-topic" here all the time.

>>527086759
Very well, I shall reshare thighs. No idea if the game is even any good or not

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3077570/MOMO_Crash/
>rhythm game using with girl's thighs
kek

>>527085886
my way with words is shite so have three litterboxes
https://litter.catbox.moe/w4c0kk.png 4.5 full gen
https://litter.catbox.moe/oe4khn.png inpaint w/4.5 full
https://litter.catbox.moe/wqx19f.png inpaint w/4.5 curated
think you get the idea

>>527087087
Weird. I've not had that issue. Maybe it doesn't mesh with the artist or something? The ones I use are more anime and pseudo-Western than the semi-realism those give me.

>>527086308
you need to wipe the metadata man...but the file rename wouldn't have worked anyway because clothes from neck to breasts have that really scratchy look still

>v4.5 curated inpainting has been released with the model. v4.5 full inpainting is currently in training
Okay, I stand corrected.

>>527087339
I just ran a simple prompt for expediency's sake
I was actually expecting to see static rather than that early-imagegen warbled goofiness desu

>>527087815
Nobody here thinks you're not samefagging and trying to play both sides here, dude.

>>527087973
How much to bet he copied that from another thread?

>>527088216
Without a doubt.

Anyone else notice we didn't get a theme poll this week?

>>527088570
We're better off without forcing fake events.

>>527091143
But enough about V-Day in Russia

>>527088570
The general is dead.

>>527092358
lmao

>>527088570
Imo I think we should make it a monthly event instead of biweekly. People suggest themes on the first day of the month. The vote happens Thursday. Its announced Friday evening. Then we hold the event on the last day of the month. That gives everyone time to make a submission.

Imo I think we should give up.

>>527093635
Why do you even bother to post in a thread you don't care for?

>>527093635
>Putin to the Russian people

>>527080798
>But now that they cost Anlas, I don't have much of a will to use them. Why do you people ignore that?
For me it's because it never costs enough to matter. Deciding to use multi-gen and large images is so much more significant that I almost always use normal size and single images unless I really want to invest in a prompt. And doing that uses so much more that encoding vibes makes no appreciable difference in comparison.

The only thing I really do differently because of the fee is I adjust information extracted in predictable increments to keep it covered by the cache.

This is probably one of the most hilariously bad train wrecks of a character description I've ever seen generated by the AI.

>>527105685
kek

>>527105685
Ah, yes, I too am also entirely made out of skin and hair

>>527110482
>and many other things characteristic of vertebrates of the Mammalia class.

>>527110482
I thought men were made of flesh, sinew, bones and dreams

>>527111161
Nein. They are made of bugs!

>>527110631
But that's not as funny to say

>>527111245
A classic
https://vocaroo.com/18sGPv9pnels

>>527048859
VT will fix it (unironically)

In case you want to watch something tonight.
https://archive.org/details/whore_2_1994___572d891148474

>>527118343
But will it fix my parent's marriage?

>>527122586
No that ship has sailed ever since mom met tyrone

Wrong thread, /pol/tard.

>replies almost exactly one minute apart
Stop trying to revive this general by replying to yourself

>>527128221
Thanks for the bump, threadshitter.

>He thinks I was replying to myself
The timer is ninety seconds, retard.

>>527128221
I mean you can just say something like "I am a failure of a schzio and I couldn't even kill the easiest to kill general in existence" and just be done with it.

How do people like their furry people? Not talking about the chart, but how you choose to represent them in your stories.

>>527128728
I often just say there's a "beastkin" race that can be based on any animal

>>527129020
Tardigradekin?

>>527129063
I suppose if you were so inclined

>>527129020
I like to munch cookies.

>>527129259
Pardon?

>>527128020
Looks more like a white dude in brownface

>>527128728
In fantasy contexts it's usually just a whatever-folk, catfolk, snakefolk or such as a separate race. In modern day contexts I've come up with a "hybrid" concept that's basically Goblinization from Shadowrun but more furry. It's an excessive asspull but it works.

>>527128728
Usually the generic human-but-quirky way I guess.
My latest story has 3 types of nonhumans, all the results of very illegal magic. Relations between humans and nonhuman sapients is bad.
First kind are uplifted animals with human-like intelligence but animal bodies. Reliant on magic and tech to make up for lack of thumbs, and very different morality. One of the major supporting characters is a morally reprehensible cat who keeps stables of rape-pits to pump out soldiers.
Second kind were originally humans, transformed to gain aspects from the animals they were mixed with. They tend to view themselves as freaks and carry huge amounts of resentment against humans.
Third type are summoned from outside Earth, the most difficult to write for since they're meant to be totally alien in behaviour.
The first kind, I try to lean heavily into the animal traits, and try to avoid obvious human ones (eg the way they raise young or the population density.) Second group are more generic furry, mostly human but with stereotypical traits blended in (eg wolf-folk are loyal to their kindred). Third group I just go hog-wild with alien and fay types of things (the less scruitable the better.)

>>527135310
Anon's getting frisky at the shuffleboard court

Textgen bros... It's over for us.

>>527128329
No problem mate, always love to manufacture artificial drama to keep this general on life support

How did NAI start? I know it formed after that thing with AI Dungeon but I also heard it formed from a bunch of anons in this general which seems unlikely.

I like this artist tag,

>artificial drama
>meanwhile anyone can check the archives and seee you've been arguing the threadmhas no purpose and deserves to die for three years and counting

Have you heard of Chad GBT?
https://webdesigninghouse.com/tech/can-chad-gbt-replace-chatgpt-for-casual-users/
https://brainpod.ai/unlocking-the-power-of-chad-gbt-how-to-use-chatgpt-for-free-and-maximize-its-potential/
https://www.toolify.ai/ai-news/unlocking-the-potential-of-chad-gbt-your-ultimate-guide-to-collaborative-ai-917514

Oh, excuse me. ChapGPT?
https://webdesigninghouse.com/tech/what-is-chapgpt-and-how-is-it-different-from-chatgpt/

>>527147430
The founder was an anon from this general. Maybe a couple of the other devs? I'm not sure though.

>>527159413
I had a suspicion so I ctrl+F'd "India" on these websites and I was not surprised by the result in the least.

I'm unironically subbing just for the imagegen

>never had a problem even once before with Erato inserting futas in regular F/F stories
>so far so good
>try using Erato to write F/F incest
>suddenly Erato keeps giving girls dicks, have to edit them out constantly
what the fuck did the AI mean by this?

>>527167957
Oh dear!

I want to fuck the very hungry caterpillar.

>>527168152
The End

>>527167957
don't do this everyone

One more. I hope this was a valuable lesson for you all.

>>527173087
He waited for her, that's so nice

So, what exactly changed from 4.5 that affected the way tags worked?

>>527174712
An expansion to the dataset. And from curated to full, the inclusion of nsfw data.

>>527174712
They may have tweaked some settings before training

>>527180234
this applies to regular R1 and V3 as well

>>527180990
I wasn't aware NAI developed Soji, which is what we were discussing.

>>527180809
Deepseek also insists on one partner 'claiming' the other and declaring 'MINE'. Every time.

>>527180990
Llama is a bad model. Everyone already agrees on that. Not sure why you insist on repeating that, though. All it seems to me is that you're trying to dismiss any criticism of Soji and Deepseek, which is honestly detrimental. I want Chub to refine it and make it better, dude. If they can iron out the kinks, that'd make their model BTFO the (lack of) competition on the market even more than it already does. Or have you now decreed that nobody's allowed to critique it?

>>527181150
that it does

Somewhere in the distance, a kitten mewled

>>527183780
I just want a model that doesn't generate the same shit every time I reroll an output. Is this truly such an insurmountable task both americans and chinese can't achieve it? It has to be related to instruct tuning.

I'm playing AIR in a wild west scenario using deepseek. There's this one rough soldier character I found and seduced, and now deepseek's favourite line is
>he snaps at you, but there's no heat in it

>>527188203
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35ygJXOeRY

>>527195048
Why does this cat have no rear half?

>>527197481
It's under the trash

>>527202638
Kek

>>527202638
Gotta love those porn tunes

NAI now seems to show the image generation as it's happening, which is kind of... off-putting. Kind of sucks the magic out of it a bit.

>>527210227
I actually like it.

>>527210592
I'd probably like it more if I wasn't genning porn. Wish there was an option to toggle it on or off, unless I missed that.

>>527210227
Currently high as fuck and genning nonstop porn, this shit is like watching a movie

>>527210974
there is
account settings>image generation>stream image generation

>>527210227
It scared the shit out of me lol

Gemini 2.5 Pro (0325) is a fucking beast, man. Milks me dry like nothing else. I hope Deepseek v4 is as good or better. Latest R1 is close but it still falls noticeably short and waiting for the CoT to finish will never not be tiresome until we get at least +100 tk/sec speed.

>>527211131
What are you high on?

The exquisite clothes tag is fun

>arguing that I should be allowed to date my lolifoxgirlfriend because she's a mythical creature and they age differently, also she should be allowed to not wear pants in public because she doesn't like them
>getting arrested for indecent exposure and statutory, and arguing my way out along with my foxwife
>having my case escalated all the way up to the Supreme Court
>my lolifoxwife being the star court witness and dazzling everyone with FACTS and LOGIC
>doing a deep dive on the backgrounds of every single supreme court justice to try and imagine how they would vote and argue my case, assuming a 5-4 narrow win and not a 0-9 instant rejection

>>527222259
Why they grant a petition for a writ of cert in the first place? The public indecency and statutory charges were probably from a state law, so the Supreme Court would only get involved if there's some constitutional issue in question.

>>527223574
Any capable lawyer could argue public indecency laws violate the first amendment.

>>527128728
I just make them humans that look different and have different body language
having every member of a species act similarly would be boring

>>527223687
pantlessness is not a form of speech

>>527223687
They've already ruled on this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_v._Glen_Theatre%2C_Inc.?wprov=sfla1
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Erie_v._Pap's_A._M.
It'd probably be even more difficult to argue your case on 1st amendment grounds since she's just walking around and not in some kind of performance or similar

>>527225757
>he thinks court decisions are static
Once upon a time, separate but equal was the law of the land. A good enough lawyer and changing attitudes by the public make these things fluid.

>>527225757\
>It ruled that the state has the constitutional authority to ban public nudity, even as part of expressive conduct such as dancing, because it furthers a substantial government interest in protecting the morality and order of society
that's not based at all
shame on them

>>527225751
But it is a form of expression, which is also covered by that law.

>>527225751
Do you seriously think that's all the first amendment protects?

>/aids/ is filled with pro-nudity fags
Maybe claudefag was right... we should give up...

>>527226132
your honor, it's part of my freedom to express myself to hang dong in public

>>527226319
It could be. That many states allow toplessness and nudity at events already makes it so. It's all a matter of getting a lawyer to speak the arcane language of law to a judge well enough to convince them of your right.

The only proper law is the Bible. Stone all fags.

>>527226108
>a substantial government interest in protecting the morality and order of society
Can't you justify banning literally anything with this logic though? You could argue that video games and rap music corrupt "the morality and order of society", even more than nudity.

>>527226602
Maybe?

>>527226132
"Being in a state of nudity is not an inherently expressive condition. Totally nude erotic dancing is expressive conduct, although it falls only within the outer ambit of the protection of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution"
Also symbolic expression can be limited, see United States v O'Brien

>>527226750
So cuck incest pornography is legal but nude pole dancing is just too far. Lol.
I am extremely anti-censorship in either case. But this is just further proof to me that normies are the actual retards.

>>527226750
What if it's not nudity but just a shirt and panties. I think picking different panties each day could be a form of expression.

>>527226750
Why are you ignoring that the law of the land isn't static? Separate but equal was held up for years, until it got struck down.

>>527226951
Have you tried sucking my dick?

You sucking my dick is how I choose to express myself, bitch. It's my constitutional right to have a personal cock warmer slobber on my nozzle. Suck my dick. Let's see if your precious judge and lawyer can argue that as legal. Nudity is sin incarnate.

Did something happen in Moscow today?

Is this the real claudefag or the Great Value® knockoff?

>>527227196
Israel is bombing Iran

>>527227208
I still think the stupidest revelation is that the actual Whinefag left and Claudefag literally trained himself to do a half-assed impression of him.

>>527225968
Sure, but courts generally like to maintain precedent. Overturning previous decisions usually comes from a large change in public sentiment or in something like Dobbs from a long and targeted campaign from a highly motivated group. Anon should have there be a Nopan Lolibaba Coalition fighting for ~50 years for the right of their foxwives to air their gooches in public

You people give me comfort in my darkest hours.

>>527227702
That's exactly what I said here: >>527225968
>changing attitudes by the public make these things fluid

Since we're wanking laws, what does your world's legal system look like?

>>527227838
Yes, I was responding to your exact post, and I agree. My point is then in the story there should be some explanation for how that happens.

>>527228057
Tiered justice system, elves (the ruling minority) have a right to a fair trial, humans are second-class citizens with fewer legal protections, other nonhumans such as orcs have next to no legal protections and are often summarily executed for misdemeanors

>>527228057
The humans live in modern day nation-states. The beastkin live in decentralized anarcho-syndicalist communities.

>>527229936
I want to fuck a beastkin.

>>527228057
Public nudity is allowed for short excursions, like getting the mail and going to a convivence store.

>>527231863
What is the punishment for going nakey all day

>>527231047
Same

>>527232415
If you can make an excuse (laundry issues), people accept it. If it's obvious you're doing it for sexual thrills, people start calling you a degenerate and filming you. Eventually, the cops come and drive you home, no charges pressed.

Who's your favorite character to bully? I can't stop throwing Life is Strange Girl into hilarious situations

>>527232845
That's very cunicular.

>>527219302
DUDE

[Minor Feature Addition]
Watch your images generate in real-time with Image Streaming as NovelAI transforms your prompt into a visual masterpiece - frame by frame, from start to finish.

>>527234962
>generating image of wolf girl getting dp'd by fat human dick
>clearly see a sfw image of Tifa flash on the screen half way through the generation for half a second

AI is fucking weird, man.

>>527233464
Thank you for using the new vocab word

>>527234962
I turned it off. I don't like seeing how the sausage gets made.

>>527233159
That's pretty fucked up lol

This was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrOYvVf6tIM

>>527240420
Same, it was funny for a bit but just kinda unnecessary

STOP THIS IS TOO MUCH LIKE REAL LIFE

>>527250048
Ouch

>>527250048
Man, that's pretty brutal. I guess she might be described as a real slut in the card/prompt to get those vectors.

>>527250048
I worry if I ever actually had sex it'd be like this and I'd never wanna be horny ever again

I have not rped with a bot since cosmos shut down, how good are they now?

>>527250048
>she doesn't teach him or give him any tips or even hints on what gives her pleasure
Yeah, no, that's her skill issue.

>>527253716
Cute kitty

>>527256214
I kinda love "educational" sex scenes. Someone explaining what to do is hot

>>527258280
It's even hotter when she's a different species.

>>527258280
Sometimes it's good to relinquish control

>>527260534
How bout an alien species
>>527260534
>Press down on my glungborg... yeah, just like that
>Now grab my slibmop and yank it, right above the spines
>fuckkkk, okay, stick your fist into my squenge hole and move it around as if you're controlling a handpuppet. If you feel the pustules emitting gas that means you're doing it right

>>527258280
I'm sure that's a good amount of the appeal of a less experienced partner, to be able to teach and mold them to do the things you like. But it also serves to get in detail and slows down the scene so it doesn't just skim by.

>>527260534
Being told exactly how to floof the tail and where on the ears scritches feel the best.

>>527262419
hehe

>>527250048
What model is this

>>527228057
Me leader
Me no like you (You ugly, you say thing me don't like)
You die

some artists shouldn't be combined.

>>527283612
I like bad combinations sometimes. The strange results can inspire scenarios that you aren't usually interested in.

>>526726351
I'm sure you can pull it off with controlnet
>>526956807
You can use a tagger model for the basic stuff though

>>526956807
>Still better than danbooru removing tags for no reason at all
Apparently this has been happening sometimes at e621 as well. One of the view tags was recently removed. "Pussy" has also been changed to "Vulva" four days ago now that I'm looking things up out of interest. I guess that conceptually makes sense since "Penis" isn't slang, and "Butt" is already used on e621 instead of "Ass" like on danbooru. Which I always oddly disliked as well.

I thought about it and I'd really like NAI beaks

>>527286293
it looks like she has long subcutaneous worms

>>527293109
You see what you want to see.

>>527294810
I-I may have had stories about worms before

Any artiist tag recommendations for birthing?
90% of my generations end up with decapitated heads or fully grown adults comming out of the vagina

Spicy writer is still the best

>>527297248
some sort of preset?

Bugs Bunny's Birthday Blowout?
How about Bugs Bunny's Birthday Blowjob?

>>527250048
>he didn't specify that his girl, despite loving sex, always remained faithful to her partner
Ngmi

>>527295815
Double up with e621 tags, that helps
Because they have more in depth birthing tags

>>527228057
I honestly need to put more thought into the legal side of my world building, this post has made me realize how haphazard that side of my work is

>>527244192
The AI eventually made the main villain give her Xanax unprompted. That's how you know your bot is having a good time.

shows the images genning each step now thats cool

>>527324206
I take back my praise because it froze on a variant gen

>>526720228 (OP)
Huh, what's all this then and how is it different from /aicg/?

>>527329169
Read the OP.

>>527329169
this is the infinite zork general

>>527329169
The only purpose of this thread is to be some sort of seat warmer for a company called NovelAI, one of the nastiest and greediest companies in the AI space. The regularly act like parasites in other communities trying to drive people into paying for an AI subscription to make porn. This is the original thread where that parasite spawned, it initially parasited on another company called AI Dungeon.
As you can see, no one actually likes to use their products, because they're an incompetent company that puts all their effort into scamming people instead of making genuinely good things, so the thread is just hourly bumps.

>>527329893
Wow, you're really still here, huh? It's a nice, sunny day in Moscow and you're here instead.

>>527330032
>nobody uses the products
>yet people post what they made with it
>the thread is only for one specific service
>yet people post things they made with other services
>accusses everyone else of being parasites, despite consistently shitting up the thread
Stale bait is all he has.

>>527330392
Also pretending to be Great Value Whinefag, but that falls under stale bait as well.

stoppu

>>527330392
Also LMAO
> paying for an AI subscription to make porn
Yet he was shilling Chub's subscription.

>>527251701
You don’t have to worry, no woman actually acts like that. They are always into it when doing it with someone new for the first time, because of the novelty.
Keeping her interested long-term is the real challenge.

Spicychat sucks, the women are too easy and act horny all the time. I am a dirty bum in a cage, why is the princess biting her lips and moaning as she looks at me? I want to win her over with my wit and philosophical wit, proving myself as a loyal hero in her father’s court before she even NOTICES me. I wanna WORK for my cummies, damn it!

v4 does Boos and Dry Bones accurately. That's probably more e621's doing I'd assume.
Wonder what else works good. Clown Cart sort of works but can be finicky.

>>527331548
Can you specify it being a "slow burn" or "enemies to lovers" story somewhere?

>>527331714
NTA, but I don't think strangers/acquaintances count as enemies.

>>527331826
I assume the dirty bum got into the cage because of/for a nefarious reason though

>beat k40
aww yeah, time to abandon ship like everyone else when Epoch comes. Every top guild has an Epoch Waiting Room, except HKS & Subsidiaries.

>>527331548
>my wit and philosophical wit
Don't think you're gonna win anyone over with that level of eloquence

>>>/h/8626097
Congrats on killing another thread.

>>527337930
princess was so impressed by him having two wits in this economy that she wanted to see if he's doubled up on the dicks, too

>>527338905
Kill yourself my dude

>>527338905
He's been sperging out on /ais/ too with retarded civic nationalist posts. I genuinely do not understand why he bumps dead/dying threads just to be a faggot. If he wants them to die he could just simply not reply.

>>527340770
Have you considered you're a moron for thinking those posts are from the person?

>glances at that thread
/pol/shit doesn't belong in /aids/.

>>527338905
>links a thread that hasn't reached bump limit
>claims it's dead
???

>>527340770
Is this more to your liking?
https://files.catbox.moe/zxhwyp.png

>>527341861
I prefer caramel women to ponyshit.

I can't help but notice the avatarfag never asked for theme suggestions this week...

Some kino just dropped on my radar, I just got done cooming to it. The full anthology: https://nhentai.net/g/578486/
This is the type of fiction that I love textgen to bring to live. But, imagine if you will, if it, combined with audiogen and imagegen, came to life. A shame TTS never took off in this sphere. I want to hear the guttural moans of luscious lolis groan and cum their brains out to my delight. Ahahaha, wouldn't that be something spectacular to see?

>loli shit
I bet you love niggers, too.

>>527343185
TTS would need to autotranslate to japanese before I can tolerate it, to be desu

>>527341214
>>527341345
No amount of mental gymnastics will overcome 1pbid

>>527346803
>/pol/speak
You can stop pretending to be a Great Value Whinefag at any time you choose, dude. Nobody here cares about you.

>>527347561
I don't mind you being upset, but could you handle that privately? I don't consent to being a party of your misery wank session.

>>527342203
Why are you pretending like you care?

Has anyone tried to see how bangable their characters are?
https://smash-or-pass-ai--gorgonzolagary45665823.on.websim.com/

>>527349657
>That's a fucking cartoon - I don't fuck cartoons. It's not even hot, just some stupid anime-looking shit.

>>527350692
WOMM.

>>527338905
I still can't tell if I should post lewds in hgg or hdg desu

>>527350692
Maybe, your waifu is low tier

did someone try Todd Howard yet

>>527352357
>Nah, not feeling it. This dude looks like he'd talk my ear off about video games the whole time, not get my pussy wet. I need someone who's gonna grab my ass and fuck me senseless, not bore me with fantasy bullshit. Pass!

>>527352901
>16x the detail

Because of AI I can't read the words "coo" or "smirk" anymore without wanting to fucking kill someone.

>>527355972
same

>>527355972
"Really?" I asked, smirking. "You are pathetic," I cooed.

For those who use custom positioning, take this in mind and use character tag order properly for maximum effect:

>The model expects characters to appear in the image from top to bottom, left to right, in the order the character prompts are defined

>>527355972
"Give it to me, Barry" she smirted

>tfw we went from funny and lewd hijinks with AI dungeon to an AI market so saturated and pajeet/scammer run to where nothing's fun anymore
>all in a span of 6 years
take me back

>>527359094
I don't want to go back. We are better off.

>>527359094
technological optimism proven wrong once again

>>527359369
You people need to open your eyes and take off those rose-tinted glasses. We are better off now, than coping with that piece of shit CYOA dumpster fire of a fine-tune.

>>527359198
I'm with this guy. 10 bucks on OpenRouter gets you way more enjoyment than Summer Dragon ever did.

>>527359094
I want to say there weren't quite as many belligerents invading areas I was interested that long ago too. it's very exhausting

>>527359557
forgot the "in", woops
good enough indication to pass out

>>527359094
I mean, the best models we have now are leagues better than the best ones we had then.
Sure, the low end has filled up with crap. But the high end is higher than ever. So sit on the roof and enjoy the sun.

>>527362916
>bonus points for the nazi armband
lmao what

https://files.catbox.moe/qghv3e.png
Somebody must have put my soul into this bot.

>>527365267
It's a dog eat dog world out there...

Can someone please tell me why my imagegen is shit? I was reasonably proud of it at the time, but I'm feeling some problems I can't quite pinpoint. Aside from the saturation maybe being too high, I think maybe too much bloom snuck in while I was enhancing. This is aside from the usual wonky details common in AI gen, like the weird skin indentations and the unnecessary cloth folds on the collar. Those are definitely my bad.

(Too lewd so of course I have to catbox it.)
https://files.catbox.moe/ulvzs9.png

>>527368514
I like your censorship

>>527329893
Oh, I've heard of both of those. I thought maybe I could've made a a scenario for this. Is it much different from usual chatbot cards?

>>527147430
It did, you can find the beginning of NAI in the archives. Kurumuz was from here, as well as Ght, Aini, Finetune, Mr.Accountant, and a few others that mostly aren't on the team anymore (Chims, Chris...). They also brought in a bunch of veterans of the AID community, a few friends of Kurumuz, and Tabloid.
It was quite an impressive team. Of course you can't recruit a dozen people from 4chan without running in some schizos, so they got Brumaire whose attempted coup, subsequent meltdown, and comical failures are also in the old threads.

>>527371559
Rumors say he's still at it, having regressed into an apologist for Putin...

>>527371906
wew

>>526721526
Why though

Chat GPT says my idea for a military themed reality show where a force composed of instagram models, streamers, influencers, and idols trained by the IDF, battle (with real weapons) a force recruited from prisons and mental institutions and given alcohol and drugs, but little real food and little or no training would be exploitative and evil. Then I make the comment that personally I would watch that show as long as the models were hot, and suddenly it agrees that the show is an interesting idea and might be popular. To be clear, the scenarios I was laying out would most likely result in the sexy women team slaughtering criminals and crazy people. So not much to entertain those hoping the thots would be raped and murdered, though I imagine there'd be at least a few instances of that sort of thing happening.

That's enough tomfoolery for one night.

>>527378390
Chat GPT/those models are very user-specific, they don't like directly calling out the user for some weird reason.

>>527378663
Sometimes I wish it was less so.

>in a medieval Irish tradition involving a king-designate from County Donegal copulating with a mare before bathing with the parts of the sacrificed animal
>if Hittite laws prohibited copulation with animals, they made an exception of horses or mules
TFW the ancestors of Western civilization really really loved animals.

>>527381212
Furthermore:
>Proto-Indo-Europeans likely had a sacred tradition of horse sacrifice for the renewal of kingship involving the ritual mating of a queen or king with a horse

>>527381298
>>527381212
Kinda fucked up that they kill the poor horse afterwards though

A shame recap and theme anon died.

>>527381964
My computer broke last week, so I wasn't able to recap.

>followed our beloved OccultSage (peace be upon him) advice and gave money to Claude
>used it to write lorebooks, memory, design magic system, plotted political schemes, etc.
>literally coom in my pants when perfecting my waifu
>"now time to start writing."
>ctrl-c ctrl-v from Claude to NovelAI
>7000 tokens are already used from the Clauded kino world building
Pain. I refuse to believe that any NAI devs are using their text gen. Even sage (pbuh) now shills Claude to do heavy lift for Erato until you're at least 4000 tokens in your story.

>>527363092
It doesn't make any sense because I tried another one and it gave it a 1/10 ranting and raving about nazi imagery.

>>527383203
When their update arrives, will you shut the ever loving fuck up?

>>527383424
Only if it's worth the wait.

Aetherroom WHEN

>>527388780
Lol

>>527388780
Soon.

>>527388780
Never.

>>527396098
When it does, the tantrum you throw might be bad enough the mods will finally ban your ass, lol.

>>527388780
Outlook hazy, try again later.

I have two wives. A regular wife and a man wife. It's okay because they're different genders.

>>527404049
Based

>>527422686
Fuck off, doomer. It IS coming out.

Tell me aboutwestern artists tags?

NovelAI. I'm at the stage where I should probably stuff what I've got so far into a lorebook entry, but I can't be bothered.

Anyone else tired of this shit?

>>527433043
Yeah the streaming shit is a bit annoying for that reason

>>527431596
just summarize the story with an instruct model

>>527435051
I don't know how to do that. I blundered into the story I've ended up with without bothering with a lorebook, author's note, memory, any of that, just plain Opus-tier context. So I'm probably going to spend an afternoon copy-pasting and rewriting stuff into a more organised lorebook format for characters and so on.

When I am outside, like driving or walking or sitting in a cafeteria, I often get inspiration and feel like continuing writing my story. So I come up with some scenarios and think I will do it once I'm home, since I'm on the move right now.
But then I go home and don't really feel like doing that.
How to fix that?

>>527438278
Set up your shit to work off your mobile device maybe? Sometimes I write on the bus, even if its far less comfortable than on a pc, just so I don't lose my inspiration when it hits. Then later when home, i can always re-write anything too janky.
Hell, even just writing notes to yourself can be enough. Point is getting it out of your brain and onto something more permanent asap so your idea doesn't drift over time.

Im working on getting a local setup to run through Sillytavern working per the spoonfeed rentry, but I've run into an issue on step 7 where I can't find the setting for max_seq_length before loading capybara, and trying to load just gives a list index out of range error, with the following excerpts in the log

>>527439921
I use Obsidian for that sort of stuff and it helps me a lot, personally, with story ideas and those random "what if you do X to solve this problem you've been having" ideas that pop up from time to time

>>527439921
I can't really write in these situations because I'm with company but just writing notes seems like a good idea.

>>527441827
idk what guide you're referring too but capybara is really old by llm standards, so I'm guessing it's an issue with the guide being out of date
you could try the current /lmg/ "guide" (kinda sparse but it seems ok): https://rentry.org/lmg-lazy-getting-started-guide
I would recommend koboldcpp over ooba if you're going to be using ggufs anyway, it's easier to get running properly

>>527441827
>>>/g/lmg
>Sillytavern
Also, chatshit doesn't belong in this thread.

>>527445573
YWNBWF

>>527433043
Works on my machine. Take it up with your ISP.

>>527435431
That's the spirit

I'm just trying 4.5 and I feel the colorings for my backgrounds are getting, how can I say... less solid?

>>527456589
Really?

Somebody woke up the baby...

>>527461043
Kill yourself

>>527461980
>no GPUs added
>no smaller models
Explain how would they increase context, retard.

**Funny Reviews**

- *“Finally, a Workplace Where ‘HR’ Stands for ‘Horned Receptionists.’ Sarah’s smile alone convinced me to trade my firstborn for a free champagne flutes.”* – *Lord Cedric F., Formerly of House ‘BrokeButWorshiped’*
- *“Came for a Blowjob of Infinite Shame, Got Tax Advice From a Tentacle. 10/10 for Unpredictability. The CFO of Sin™ is Real.”* – *Barnaby F., CPA Who Learned What *Real* Numbers Look Like*
- *“The ‘Phantom Embrace’ Suite was a scam! I asked for ‘a night with my high school crush’ and got chased by her ghost while naked. Still top-tier, though.”* – *Niles R., Ghost-Hunting Enthusiast Turned Ghost-Sexual*
- *“Tried to Haggle with Lilith. Now My Penis Is a Rubber Duck Named Steve. The Upside? Steve Has Great Listening Skills.”* – *Anonymous (Because I’m Writing This From a Bathtub in the Velvet Void)*
- *“A+ for Atmosphere. Came for S&M, Stayed Because the Dungeon Master’s Wi-Fi Was Faster Than Mine and Had All the HBO Series.”* – *Jareth F., Cybersecurity Analyst Who Can’t Stop Crying in the Iron Garden*

>>527458529
>it just requires technical work and a lot of product changes, it's not flip of a switch

>spent months using NovelAI
>decided to download Open LLama
>128k tokens
>128k
I got scammed

>>527469872
...you thought 8k context for $25 a month isn't a scam?

>>527470206
Don't you have some heavy psyop lifting to do for your ally nation?

>>527463615
Provide proof they haven't expanded.

>>527470206
>ignoring Kuru said they're expanding the context
Soon you'll have to update your bot.

>>527470483
>>527470736
Are they going to expand it to at least 64k? My GPU generates only half as fast on Llama for free. I don't see what the point is unless you have no PC

>>527470968
The fine-tune and accessibility is the point.

>>527470968
The point is that you're entitled to your preference, as is everyone else. Imo OpenRouter is better.

>>527471201
Still costs money
>>527471113
Kobold is pretty easy to use and fine-tune though. It just works.

>>527471293
Here is the part where you spam claims that people are backstabbing Kobold.

I will spend my money however I choose, retard. Nothing Kobold offers outperforms OpenRouter's selection. I'm not going to waste resources training a model for my own autistic preferences.

>>527403574
Can't been the fussy.

>>527471638
It's a Chad move to snowball your own cum.

>>527471113
>fine-tune
Still have all the bad part of Llama. It isn't about what a model was trained to do, but about what it can do. New models, be it local or on Open Router, mogs Erato hard that it isn't even funny.

>>527472506
The new model wont be Llama. They already confirmed they are moving away from that. What's your next meme?

>>527472831
He will pivot to shilling Llama the moment it releases.

>Turk is finally making super Kayra
The promised land....

Regardless of the quality of the service I would never put the kind of insanely degenerate shit you guys write as porn on a cloud service.

>>527473210
My consensual sex and handholding is definitely too degenerate for this sanctimonious Chriscuck larping routine you're pulling.

>>527472965
>quanting an already small model
>super Kayra

>>527473587
You have still yet to provide any evidence that they are quantizing anything. Have a nice day, ragebaiter!

>>527472965
It will be glorious!

>>527472965
And it'll be for the cheap low price of $50 per month.

>>527471638
This dude is really interested in sucking on some titties

>>527473810
Proof?

>>527473895
His anus. Dirtier than the Ganges. Beware the brown eye.

>>527473943
Do not give me that mental image, bro, that makes me want to gag.

>>527473821
Who wouldn't?

>>527471201
Grok disagrees
I trust grok
He's my best fren

>>527473810
Yo, Claudefag, I think you can properly generate a Golden Retriever being punched now. I saw a very convincing video gen of a cat being punched.

>>527475129
It still won't generate a black man being punched. It lets me generate a white guy getting punched but if the skin color gets too dark it just gives me an error message.

>>527476650
can you specify a "racist in blackface" grtting punched?

>>527472965
I hope 'Super Kayra' means Deepseek in a Kayra mask with a 16k cock, I mean, context.

>>527481080
Chub has 60k context for $20 a month.

>>527481936
But we're not supposed to pay for an AI subscription to make porn.

I haven't done textgen in like two years now. I'm not sure I'd even know where to start anymore.

>>527472831
They are moving away from Llama because Erato was slop.

>>527472831
The point still stands. Why should anyone pay $25 a month for their finetune models when models on OR can write as good for far cheaper price.

>>527473821
This is my issue with the AI, I saw people using it, used it myself then after like 3 images noticed it's very repetitive.

>>527499317
Generated A/Ns really do bring up the most random shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2KHV8ZjJmo

I used to rise, love and fall
Lived it all
Needed no motive
Now I need every reason
To accept the change of beak season
I'm on a train home like yesterday
Just swiping right and left, writing somebody's tales of woe and treason
Then ending things with happy end for no reason

I want to be an adventurer
I'm sick of trying to be something for nobody
I want to be a knight in shining armor
For fluffy monster girl

And you wake up to win and lose
But it's never you
You know that
You'll be sucked into their history
They say you're so instrumental
Thank you, Mr. JudgeBot
I make plot too much complicated, losing AI touch
Now every line is contradictory
Realize that I never ask you how would you write it

I want to be an adventurer
I'm sick of trying to be something for nobody
I want to be knight in shining armor
So I can run from reality
Living's right next to you
But reality gets complicateeeed
It's getting maaad, it's getting maaad
In the end, was real life overrated?

It's getting real
Life gets complicated
But here I stand
I need your imaginary hand
Just open up my head, and
Make me smile
Make me cry like an anon writing his first summer dragon prompt

Writing his first summer dragon prompt
Writing his first summer dragon prompt

I want to be an adventurer just for you and me
Sick of being something for nobody
I want to be in Larion

Larion...

>>527518324
Good times.

Funny how we don't remember good times from the NovelAI era.

>>527523382
I do.

>>527523382
>he doesn't remember the Jax era

>>527500704
My issue with it is that it seems the creator did a half-ass censor on it.

What is the appeal of dick piercings?

>>527534081
Ribbed for your pleasure

>>527532458
He doesn't even remember Summer Dragon. Bitch a newfag from /g/ who popped a hernia at service of our time.

What are people listening to on this lazy Sunday?

>>527543920
Sex moans.

>>527543920
some rabbit junk

>>527456589
>>527472965
Did I miss some discord screenshot or...?

>>527552702
Idle talk from Kuru about the differences between RVW, probably got that acronym wrong, caches and what they intend to do to ensure prompt injections continue to work as intended.

>>527552702
>It's extremely easy for chatbots to do 20K as they can cache all the KV most of the time. They're not doing context injections(Lorebook, Author's note, memory) to top or middle of the chat. Our users do that all the time, whole NAI is built on that, which means each generation re-computes the whole context.
>It doesn't mean we won't or can't do long context, it just requires technical work and a lot of product changes, it's not flip of a switch
>You can either do context injections at close to the bottom of context(by training the model to accomodate those), or no/more limited injections for long context. First option is ideal
Which means they're training a custom model (Super Kayra), increasing its beak size, and context size, under the hopes that it will punch above its weight. Unsure if they intend to do a 32B. If they expanded their resources, they may be able to do a custom 70B, given they have at least enough to run Erato, albeit exclusive to Opus, or maybe they will moonlight Erato, don't know how much V4.5 has brought them, I'd say we have waiting to do regardless. Either way, it should be better than Llama.

>>527552980
>>527553581
Thanks. Context increase is loooong overdue but better late than never.

>>>/g/105601396
>>>/g/105601417
>a 0.6B model punches above Erato's weight
Sad.

And there he goes, barging into a convo for the express purpose of derailing it with a crosspost.

>>527556389
This is funny. Judging by the other replies, most people there don't care about the latest model he's shilling.
>Thought for 75.6 seconds

>>527556260
Kill yourself

>>527556260
>It's a 4b performance for a 0.6b size
Nobody in the links said anything about Erato.

>>527556729
You first, laptop boy!
>Running on a laptop CPU

What shape of ass do you like best, and why?

>>527557098
Apple bottom

>>527557937
Jeans, boots with the fur?

>>527556869
Nevermind, forgot you were retarded again, can't even use video gen properly.

>>527558113
I responded to the wrong comment, but love you too.

>>527558278
Double nevermind, forgot I'm retarded too.

do we have an ETA on v4.5f inpainting yet
v4 inpainting is choking on what i need to inpaint and it's NSFW so v4.5c can't do it

>>527560940
Nope. "Still training".

>>527557098
What even are ass sizes? It's an ass. Nobody wants to stick their dick in that, a pale imitation of boobs.

>>527568138
That sure is A Butt

Anal is sin. Every human being alive agrees that it's a repugnant, disgusting fetish and that rabbis marketing it in porn are not our friends.

>>527574517
Oh Christ he's back at it with the retarded Chris Chan Roleplay again.

>>527575613
>I blowbang Russian cock up my ass
Hello, angryanon.

>>527575698
>I blowbang Russian cock up my ass
I mean, CF definitely does, so that goes without saying.
>Hello, angryanon.
Why are you still so bad at identifying angryanon? It's not that hard.

>>527575970
Hello, whinefag. Your fox whore is shit.

>>527575970
Don't be fooled. This is definitely angryanon. Notice the rehearsal was 25th of a town served as its court?

>>527576295
It's funny how he pretends like we aren't aware of his gaslighting tricks by now.

>>527577135
It really is quite pathetic.

Has anyone bothered to test the more niche medium tags? From the 'cord here are some results; I haven't verified anything myself tho:

Marker: works great
Ink, ballpoint pen: Quality is spotty. Sometimes great. Specifying a color in the medium tag doesn't seem to work but specifying a theme and adding monochrome is fine
Pencil: doesn't seem to work often, also lowers image quality for some reason.
Color pencil: Gives out what I expected for pencil.
Chalk, Color chalk: doesn't have an effect on the medium as far as I can tell
Oil: strong effect. Not sure what it's doing though.
Clay: doesn't make clay
Card: Works great.
Photo: sometimes it does cute stuff like making a photo of a drawing
Pen: This is what I wanted out of ink and ballpoint pen.
Unreal: ineffective.
Blender: Much better at 3D-looking images, still not perfect.
Aseprite: instant pixel art. Works great.
Rebelle: Doesn't replicate the rebelle style.
Acrylic paint, Acrylic Gouache: I think it's working well? I'm not intimately aware of what acrylic looks like
Poster: Replicated the poster style well. Similar to card but I think I like it better.