Law'ezel Edition

Previously on Copeg : >>527134824


>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063


Darktide:
Arbites Class Coming June 23
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/arbites-class-coming-june-23/108085
Introducing: The Cyber-Mastiff - Dev Blog
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-the-cyber-mastiff-dev-blog/108442
Behind The Arbitrators - BTS Dev Blog
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/behind-the-arbitrators-bts-dev-blog/108667
Dev Blog: The Voices of the Lex
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-the-voices-of-the-lex/108785
Extended Arbites Gameplay
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/extended-arbites-gameplay/108853
Hotfix #68 (1.7.6) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-68-1-7-6-patch-notes/108282/1

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Firebreak - Jun 17th https://www.playfirebreak.com/
Wildgate - Jun 23 or something
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

>>527195649
good pupper

>>527195649
>ruh-roh

>>527195649
damn they really want people to buy the fucking skins

>>527195649
looks like a rat

I want shield weapons for other classes.
A combat shield + axe would fit veteran very well.

>>527195980
That is probably just the default skin, and the guy made the dog look like Scooby-Doo on purpose because he's a onions.

psyker force halberd when

>>527196094
*Combat shield + axe/sword would fit Zealot very well

>>527196604
It would fit veteran as well.

>>527196729
>>527196604
You're already getting a zealot vetbites soon

>>527196315
After ogryn gets a slab shield with a power maul.

Of course these faggot Swedes release the gameplay the one day I decide to sleep in. Kill all Fatsharkians.

>extra attack speed for each enemy staggered by Break the Line
>allows to charge through any and all enemies during Break the Line
>invulnerability for X seconds at the end of Break the Line
make it happen Fatshark

>>527197158
It was dogshit.

Calling it now

>Blitz
Shock Mine > Impact Grenade > Remote Detonation

>Combat Ability
Nuncia Aquila > Castigator's Stance > Break the Line

All other opinions are sub-havoc40 brained

>LET THEM BLEEED OUT
>LET THEM SUFFER
Absolute edge kino

doomfags are so insufferable. heckin doggo is cute and i WILL pet it ad nauseum aboard the mourningstar

>>527197838
>calling it now
After it has already been confirmed

>>527197860
BLEED BUILD META CONFIRMED

I decided to check the arbites post on the forums and it says this
>Muscle forwards with reinforced Assault Shields and a choice of Dominator Maul or Arbites Shotpistol - Darktide’s first defense/range combo.
This implies that we are getting 2 assault shield weapons, and one is paired with the dominator power maul, the other is the shield + pistol
But the picture related is from the gameplay video and it that is the dominator maul for the arbites but the doesn't have a shield at all. You can check the Kill Team miniature for this.
And POV we watched the video from the shield in the gameplay is seemingly paired with a shock maul? The fuck is going on?
Is fatshark messing around with melee weapons so you can decide if you want to run with the shield equipped or if you just want to use the maul only?

Are we actually getting 3 melee weapons for arbites?
>shield + power maul
>power maul only
>shield + shock maul
>shock maul only (already exists)

The devblog about these weapons can't come soon enough, hopefully it's posted on the weekend. It'd clear up the confusion.

>>527198172
I think anon meant in terms of what's strongest to weakest

>>527198103
*picks lone wolf node*
Useless mutt that takes out like three human sized enemy per minute

>>527198405
if fucking only
would be nice to have something besides infernus

>BOOM
>KER CHUNK
>The shotgunner doesn’t even stagger
It looks and sounds so good but looks weaker than the current shotguns somehow. What the fuck

jesus chrsit i hope the pistol and shield combo has a shield bash special attack ill coome

>>527198524
Dominator mauls are able to blow holes in concrete walls for breaching, this thing better fucking fucking obliterate things. But arbite shotguns are also supposed to be strong as fuck and they’ve already failed in that front

I'm gonna run a bolter on my 'beetus

>>527198912
Its basic attack is the Zarona (formerly Lawbringer) shotgun's special shot, which is garbage if you didn't run the right blessings on it, and has terrible bodyshot damage. I'd expect it to be the same; completely useless without the meta blessings.
You'd probably see more bolter or recon las users however, especially if the Arbeetus talent tree has nothing incentivizing the use for shotguns like extra damage on stagger or cleave etc.

>>527198639
What the gameplay vid made me think is that fatshark might've really hampered this class and made it underpowered as hell due to the recent bitching about OP shit in the game. (The bitching is for a good reason tbf)

So can the dog be killed or otherwise injured/disabled? Likewise what happens to the dog if the arbites dies, will he hang around with the team until the arbites is rescued? Or will he despawn and have to be rescued with the arbites?

>>527197860
Yeah I liked it too. Pretty solid.
>>527199102
Wait, is it confirmed we can dual wield a shield and other weapons besides the maul? Because I can see that being pretty damn useful

>>527199578
Dog is immortal/untargetable normally, presumably despawns if you die

>>527199341
Lawbringer is next to useless even with the right blessings and a weapon specialist build, trash clear just ain’t useful on your ranger weapon unless it’s also debuffing/softening/staggering up the elites as well (so basically just the flamer and a couple of psyker staffs). I don’t know what possessed them to make the new punchy arbite shotgun like this. And fucking shock rounds for the special ammo. It’s honestly looking worse than the slug shotty, at the very least that one is just a slow revolver with good stagger. Still not great but it’s something.

>>527199578
>So can the dog be killed or otherwise injured/disabled?
No. The devs already said that it is immune to all damage and unkillable and can't be disabled by enemies.
>Likewise what happens to the dog if the arbites dies, will he hang around with the team until the arbites is rescued? Or will he despawn and have to be rescued with the arbites?
It's likely it gets despawned because it is likely that the mastiff's existance is linked to the arbites itself.
But it'd be kinda cool if it did hang out with the other players even if the arbites player dies.

>dog gives coherency
vile pw2 shit

>tune higher difficulties to be never ending flak and carapace spam
>think it’s okay to release weapons that can’t handle that
We already know how the shield and maul is going to struggle with it, current shock maul takes forever to kill a crusher and adding a shield is going to slow it down even more. Shotgun looks like dedicated trash clear, do the fucking FORTH shotgun in the game for blasting walkers with. Because everyone loves doing that so much

>>527199675
No, Arbites just has shield + maul and shield + shotpistol as unique weapons, though it's not yet explained how this works.
I'd assume the shield is tied to the maul and will still be equipped if your ranged weapon is the shotpistol. This would mean that the shotpistol will be a standalone ranged weapon that doesn't come with a shield if you equip something else. Otherwise, if the maul and and shotpistol have their own shield and cosmetics tied to them, your shield will change models/colors every time you swap weapons if the maul and shotpistol are equipped.

>>527200098
>the dog causes coherency toughness to always be avaivable to the arbites
Watch Hank start shilling toughness regen speed on curios again.

>>527195649
He's gay

>>527200404
is it bad or something

>>527195649
>White women want one thing and it's absolutely disgusting

>>527199909
If the arbites dies he's still technically in the game so I don't see why he couldn't still hang around. He could occasionally wine or how when the arbites is dead just give the dog a bit more personality, and not just another tool.

>>527200509
Yes, think of it as the traditional regenerating shield like in gaylo, which only starts regenerating at a snail's pace after not taking damage for a period of time scaling to number of allies nearby.
In a game when you can regenerate said shield faster via melee kills or other % scaling talents.

>>527198617
Tanner already confirmed it in his discord

>>527199317
>heavily scripted cinematic gameplay made specifically to appeal to people who have never played darktide before
>likely 0 upgrades on anything, just different blitzes picked in debug for a showcase
>thinks it's the end-all-be-all somehow

>People complaining about how shit the new class is.
They are 100% going to buff it beyond recognition to make it broken, especially since it's a paid DLC class.
Moreover, they'll be added new weapons eventually, given how the arbites has an official kit

>>527201038
I just think fatshark was retarded to showcase a crowd control class with that enemy density. Notice how everyone was awed by the stun grenade 6 minutes in.

>>527200907
okay whats the opportunity cost

>>527200509
Yes.
Coherency toughness gets instantly disabled if you take any damage or if any melee enemy tries to occupy one of your "slots". Melee in DT works by a slot system where enemies try surround you by taking up these invisible "slots" and from those they start attacking you. Basically imagine it as enemies locking onto you, and them locking on and taking slot instantly causes coherency toughness from regenerating.

This is the reason why it is better to just invest other toughness sources you get from your skilltrees.

>>527201038
I'd be pissed to pay for a class in a PvE and for it to not be above average. Fagshark has a history with making OP DLC classes, don't see why they'd stop that now.

>>527201038
Should've launched with the shotgun sniper

>doubleclicks daemonhost
FIDO NO, NOOOO

>>527200791
True, but we'll see.

>>527201257
GO GET EM, CHAMP

>>527201196
Toughness regen speed takes up slot in a curio.
And curio has better perks you can choose over it. Like stamina regen, sprint efficiency, combat ability regen, gunner/sniper resistance, extra health, extra toughnes, etc.

>>527200959
>t-they just scripted the weapons to look weak as fuck

>>527201572
stamina regen, sprint efficiency, and combat ability regen aren't weaker than toughness regen?

>>527200959
>>heavily scripted cinematic gameplay made specifically to appeal to people who have never played darktide before
Yes, as you try to bring in nee customers you should make the weapons look anemic and weak as fuck. Yes, this is a good god damn idea.

>>527201038
It’ll only take them 6 months

No corgi or dachshund skin for dog, no buy

>>527201601
>scripted the weapons to look weak
Think, nigger, think. What good is your Plasma Gun without Gets Hot, Rising Heat and extra Flak/Carapace damage?

>>527201780
Nope, they are very good.
Combat ability regen lets you spam your ult more often and stuff like sprint efficiency is good because it lets you run for longer which is important in higher difficulties. And stamina regen lets you regen your stamina faster which is good because you use stamina to block and push, both are which are important in melee combat in this game.

checking the loadout of random people while on the hub is unironically blackpilling
these are the people griefing your aurics and havocs

>like coop
>want to discover new coop games
>all anyone talks about on here is Darktide
I don’t mind Darktide but god I wish this general talked about other games every once in a while.

>>527201780
>stamina regen
Helps you regen stamina faster for blocking, pushing or sprinting
>sprint efficiency
Reduces stamina use for sprinting, leaving you more stamina for blocking/pushing
>combat ability regen
Imagine spamming shout/chorus/bubble/taunt more could be worse than regenerating basic toughness slightly faster when a poxwalker isn't molesting you

>>527201975
>What good is your Plasma Gun
It punches through everything with infinite cleave.

so what should shotguns be good at anyway? only thing i can think of is crowd control vs. unyielding, flak, and carapace, and short to medium range horde clear

>>527201572
You do know that this is only for coherency toughness, right?
And that stops regenerating as soon as any enemy engages in melee combat with you, so you're only left with the toughness regen from your talents, which aren't affected by toughness regen speed.

>>527202250
I play DRG, HD2, Vermintide, Mordhau, Titanfall 2 Frontier Defense. From time to time.

>>527201886
I believe MegaCity 1 elected a Chimp that could guess Lotto numbers as mayor at one point.
Not even one of the genetically engineered intelligent apes either.

>>527202250
/coopg/ is a fucking lie, this has been /dtg/ since forever. Every other coop game has their own general anyway, even if it's on /vm/.

>>527202250
>DRG
Casual trash that is about to be replaced by Rogue Core

>Vermintide
Obsoleted by Darktide

>Helldivers
Terrible updates

Why bother with the alternatives

ogryn talents dont make any sense. why do i need a bunch of useless shit just to get things i want

>>527202304
>You do know that this is only for coherency toughness, right?
>And that stops regenerating as soon as any enemy engages in melee combat with you,
>so you're only left with the toughness regen from your talents, which aren't affected by toughness regen speed
Yes.
It's exactly why toughness regen speed is useless.

>>527201975
Still really fucking good on damnation and below?

>>527202250
so talk about them

https://www.pcgamesn.com/darktide/arbites-class-preview
They go into greater detail than PcGamer here.
Highlights:
>The Arbites Shotgun is particularly powerful - so much so that Fatshark has had to rebalance all the existing shotguns to help them match up to the newcomer's might.
To me this confirms that this Shotgun is stronger than any of the current shotguns. Although, not too huge of a bar, but the DBS is pretty good even on Havoc.
>The Voltaic Shock Mine can be thrown to lock down a zone for 15 seconds.
>Arbites can employ Castigator's Stance to become "practically immortal" for ten seconds while retaining high mobility; you can't sprint during this, but your base movement is higher and move speed penalties are ignored
>Break The Line is a forward bash that heavily staggers enemies while buffing your damage and impact temporarily.
>Nuncio-Aquila, a deployable broadcast drone that buffs all nearby allies while debuffing any enemies in proximity.

>The investigator nodes focus on the Arbites' skill as an animal handler and their ability to chase down perpetrators at speed. The space cop talents make you "relentless and brutal." The enforcer side of the tree lets you build "the tankiest human character yet."

>>527202276
Should clear unarmored/infested by the shot, can kill Flak and Maniac with the right perks. The capacity to deal with Unyielding or Carapace should depend on the special, if at all. Frankly, the gun would have been much better if its special was juiced up version of its regular shot. Think double the pellets, and double the damage. Clear out Rager rape gangs, blow holes in swarms of Moebian modifier, etc. Even if it couldn't deal with CRUSHERS that wouldn't be the end of the world since nearly everyone deals with them in melee or with Blitzes. But you're speaking generally and not the Arbites Shotgun in particular.

>>527203509
It being unable to one-shot a Poxhound on Sedition sure as hell doesn't give that impression. Unless the guy mistook their Swedish double speak of 'rebalance' as making the other shotguns more powerful, and not nerfing them like they probably did if this statement were true.

>>527203509
>>The Arbites Shotgun is particularly powerful - so much so that Fatshark has had to rebalance all the existing shotguns to help them match up to the newcomer's might.
if i'm reading this right the regular shotguns got buffs? thank fuck

>>527199869
The lawbringer has normal shots which kill can kill specials
A shotgun that only does stun and lawbringer tier damage would be shit

Copers were right. The shotguns in the video are low stats.
>buh buh it's Hank
He's still a playtester who's actually used the gun and claims that the truth is the contrary to what you (someone who hasn't used the shotgun) believes.
The pile of evidence grows against doomers. BTFO'd I say.

>>527205256
Was shilling their new class with unoptimized, weak weapons and barely showing off the class' kit part of their plan?

>>527205530
The average person that watches the showcase won't think this. Only autists like us will notice and care. They don't want every enemy to be blown away immediately on video, there's a reason you get to watch the chaos spawn actually fight the Arbiters and not immediately get melted like it normally would. It's entirely a visual showcase to make normies think the game looks pretty.

>>527205737
Wonder how many new customers it'll get them as opposed to the roughly 3-4k that are usually online concurrently

>>527205256
>Hank
Opinion ignored, not even joking. Hank could tell me the sky is blue and I'd still want to double check with someone else.

Do the space cops have a code for mutants or was that something else?

>>527205915
Last month was high 7, this month is 8. Next month could be as high as 10 due to the class. It was 5 for the last 5 months though because they kept fucking up (Mortis) and doing nothing (being Swedish).

>>527205737
i qp normal damnation and unless im playing th zealot any cs, bon, or ogryn usually kills half the party. i dont get what you people are smoking that claim you can kill monsters easily outside the dedicated monster masher

>>527205949
hes got over 2000 havoc clears. he might be bad compared to you but hes definitely better than 99.9% of the active playerbase

>>527205737
It looks boring, man. They could have just given the game to some playtesters and let them play on Heresy or Damnation. That's enough mobs so it seems intense, without being overtly too much shit on the screen that confuses people. Not to mention they showed off fuck all, and the gameplay (from the players) was abysmal.

>>527206557
uprising thru heresy accounts for something like 81% of all playtime

>>527201257
>the daemonhost aggros on fido but can't kill it

>>527201038
>they'll be added new weapons eventually
yeah...
next year

>>527202250
We want more coop games too. But they either die or blow up to the point where they need a new general.

Watched mr. e's play-by-play of the footage. Here's everything he implied while NDA is still up.
>the shield does have some big energy release fatshark never showed
>there's other ways to charge the shield than passively waiting
>arbites has lots of synergy with shocked enemies
>dog has little cooldown and can jump between enemies in less than a second even automatically
>dog should have killed that mauler faster than 10sec if it was built for it
>standard grenade explodes on impact
>shock grenade has no limit to enemies it stuns provided they're in range
>dog self-destruct grenade is electric and heavy stagger
>confirmed the player never tagged any targets for the dog
Most importantly NDA lifts on the 19th. Everyone's going to have full guides before release.

>>527207195
>>arbites has lots of synergy with shocked enemies
good, because psykers shock talents fucking SUCK

>>527207195
doomers on suicide watch

>>527207195
>arbites has lots of synergy with shocked enemies
>Arbites will directly scale with Smiggers
Just kill me now.

>>527207195
And he had nothing to say about the shotgun being portrayed as shit? Not a word? If he didn't then that just tells me Hank's being a retard again. I know people don't like Mr. E, but the guy was the first to do a recorded Ogryn only Havoc 40 clear. Sure, it took like two weeks, but they did it.

The Arbites Shotgun is particularly powerful - so much so that Fatshark has had to rebalance all the existing shotguns to help them match up to the newcomer's might.

>>527207925

if shotguns hardcountered ragers thatd be cool

>>527207195
What if the shotgun has a unique blessing that allows it to do a stupid amount of damage to shocked enemies? The shock grenade works on Crushers/Bulwarks...

>>527207825
He glossed over it but called it very powerful. The weapons didn't get much mention beyond the shield.

>>527207195
>>the shield does have some big energy release fatshark never showed
they did

>The dog can respond and stagger mutants faster than they can catch you
Holy fucking based.

>>527208920
Context:
When the guy playing goes down the female Arbites runs up to the top of the stairs then uses the shield blast to get back down.

Another thing I spotted is that it took the dog less than 2 seconds to kill a scab gunner and switch to the next gunner nearby. If they're this reliable at killing groups of chaff gunners, they're gonna be very useful for Havoc, because those guys are the real threat. I just wonder if it'll be possible to ping them for the dog and have him go to town killing them while you focus on something else.

>>527207195
The nade looks stronger than shredders for horde clear

>>527201038
No shit. Also the person playing was a literal retard who didn’t even use all of the classes moveset. It’s comical how bad they are with showcasing stuff.

ZEALOT STATUS: USELESS

Fembites ass confirmed

>>527202250
You’re free to talk about whatever you want retard. DT has a lot of discussion because it’s heads and shoulders more fun than most of the stuff in the list but if there’s something you feel deserves to be known and spoken about then speak up.

>>527209712
elf player detected

Dog jump and stagger Chaos Spawn

>>527209786

>streamers getting fucking build guides out before release
Cringe
>here is a very fun build using the new weapons (:
>and here is the actually good build with DS and bolter
I can already see it now

Shock mine

DS nerfies will be dropping with the patch im so happy what a good glorious comfy day june the 23rd will be :)

>>527210017
I still don't know how this works. Are we in agreement it's a completely different weapon? That doesn't even remotely match the 1st person model with the shield.

>>527210296
just a skin for the regular human shock maul

>>527210240
You can see playtesters on their discord talking about how they already completed H40 with Arbites' full kit.

>>527210272
According to? I want to believe, but there better be buffs for other shit.

>>527210296
Looking at it frame by frame it seems more like a different Mark of the Arbites Maul maybe its like the Ogryn ones

>>527210470
pcgamesn article confirms that they're buffing shotguns so that the new one doesn't completely outclass them, which means there'll be a balance patch
fatshark said on their forums that they want to look into the duelling sword so there's a good chance they truly did nerf it

>>527210635
>nerf duelling sword
>only replacement is Arbites
>18.99

pottery

>>527205953
What do you mean a “code”? As in how they deal with them? Because that’s just killing them

>>527210840
Every class has different "codes" for various specials and elites and such. It's the nicknames they use.

>zealot's stun grenades are even more useless now
OH NO NO ZEALOTSISSIES

>>527211220
>people are going to be yelling at the Psyker for not taking Smite

>>527210994
Oh. Then yeah we don’t know yet. I imagine they use the same phrases as Sigma Minoris shit

>adeptus arbites use a similar system as the guard but with completely different codes
>arbite and vet end up bickering over what things are called

>>527205953
Yeah one of them says
>something Minoris 77 charging in
Right as a mutant is charging in so I guess they do. More code autism, great.

>arbitrators call each other "lex-mates" instead of "officers"

>>527213272
Why don't you reLEX mate

>>527205953
Arbites would have it since mutants are common crooks in underhives or other places with shit conditions. Guardsmen normally wouldn't fight mutants unless they mainly fight Chaos, even then not all the time and they're probably lumped in with regular cultists.

>arbites synergizes with shock
>dog grenade shocks
Calling it: this grenade regens since it's not an explosive or throwable like the other 2. Every class has that 'grenade pickup agnostic' option. This lets it be meta along with the stun field (no one will take impact nades). There's a meme build based around siccing your dog on central targets to electrify hordes so you don't need the shield.

If the shotgun shock ammo fires multiple pellets then it could be funny to use in mutant waves

I hope Arbites get a grenade launcher some time down the road like 5yrs from now

>>527214205
don't be silly, they'll be too busy putting out the third DLC class by then!

>>527214509
60 dollars from me by then

>>527203509
Lmao. Doomers absolutely cock smacked

>>527214908
Trvth. There’s no helping them now. We won.

>>527207580
2025 year of smigger
Fuck yeah

>>527203509
>Arbites can employ Castigator's Stance to become "practically immortal" for ten seconds while retaining high mobility; you can't sprint during this, but your base movement is higher and move speed penalties are ignored
This is the ability your Auric arbites is running
>Nuncio-Aquila, a deployable broadcast drone that buffs all nearby allies while debuffing any enemies in proximity.
This is the ability you'll demand that same arbites equip in order to play Havoc 40.

Simple as.

>>527215180
Castrator's stance will be the clutch and revive build choice

>>527216080
Castigator, not Castrator.

>>527215180
Don't give a shit. I'm running Break the Line in my Havoc games.

>>527216605
I'm still plain ol' Kruber. I just outrank you now!

>>527216478
I know
Dumbass

i already miss my wife strawhat

So the thread just died

>>527216605
and then he becomes a grail knight and everyone is confused including him

>>527220261
Give the arbeetus the relic blade and he becomes a knight

>>527220261
It's alright he won't have to deal with it for very much longer.

>>527220364
Give balls to my aunt and she becomes my uncle.

So i played some wildgate. Not a lot to say but my entire time seemed to leave immediately. I cannot recommend even trying to attempt that game without a full team.

You fucks ever played Remnant 2?
I got a problem with how restrictive the game is, and I'm not sure if it's going to open up. I'm 15 hours in and still stuck using the same shit and I can't even try to use other stuff because it makes me feel weaker. Yeah, I can downgrade and lose half my scrap, but I don't want to unupgrade a weapon, I want to keep that weapon upgraded as well so I can swap over to it. I like to use everything the game gives me and right now it feels like I'm meant to stay with the same gear for an entire playthrough. Archetypes are boring, not enough Trait points for all the traits I get. I don't feel anything when I get a trait point. I usually forget I even have it. The fragments don't offer enough of a bonus to be worth a fuck, and the Prism thing is the same way.

I know I'm doing something wrong, so help me out here. Am I just not far enough yet?

>>527221216
Fuck off.

Im not a doomer and I look forward to arbites but I just launched the game. I didnt feel like playing havoc so I played 3 maelstrom games and they were all so fucking boring. The second theres someone running a meta havoc build fun goes out the window and you start having to compete for kills/fun it sucks. More content is exciting but it will only last for some time before it becomes old. What we need is a difficulty 6 thats not a cakewalk and one good player running meta cant just destroy the difficulty so much that everyone is left dry but at the same time it cant be so diffucult as to force a meta on to everyone. I also just cant understand what drives a lvl 600 havoc 40 to play ds shredder shout plasma in aurics man kys

Uh...

>>527221513
rude
what for?

>>527222256
don't mind him, our resident browns are hostile to any game that isn't darktide

Hello Sir, I'd like to buy the Arbites dlc, deluxe edition. Oh, and another one for my QTpie GF.

>>527222341
K. Answer his question then.

Take your time buddy.

why is the brown like this

>>527222073
I think this guy was standing behind the camera player nearly the entire time, or had his gun out.
So arbites will bear the TOOONK curse just the same as ogryn. Truly, the overlap is considerable.

>>527222073
What muscles does that train?

>>527222073
Sir...another shock maul has hit Darktide....

>>527222073
>+80% damage and rending against shocked enemies
Predicting it

>>527221513
>>527222256
>>527222341
>>527222482
>>527222927
>>527223097
Pathetic falseflag

>>527224696
Funnily enough that wouldn’t actually help the shock maul much, because it already has great armour pen values, it’s the low base damage that makes it an ordeal to fight multiple crushers.

I take it the dog can free you from pox hounds and mutants, but will he be able to free you from nets?

>shock maul and shotguns are shit weapons
>release a class themed around these weapons
they gonna buff 'em, Im a genius I know

>>527225283
We already know the shotguns are getting buffed

>>527225532
Yes, I predicted it.

>>527225662
I predicted concussion grenades before the class announcement

>>527225734
I predicted you would say that.

>>527225826
*pulls out a post-it note out of my pocket*
I wrote this 5 years ago. It has your exact post and post number on it

>>527225965
I was your father all along.
*drops milk and fly away*

>>527201257
>>527206832
Unironically, what happens? Imagine the hilarity
>fatshark actually coded the heckin wholesome doggo to attack daemonhosts
>they forgot to attribute the damage
>daemonhost can't target dog so it target switches to the nearest player instead of the owner
>you can grief with it
Shit, if damage attribution isn't properly coded, I wonder what the fuck will happen to scoreboard mods. Not that I imagine the dog to deal any relevant damage whatsoever, besides the allahu ackbar grenade option.

>name dog Muhammad
>muzzies hate dogs
>it's a suicide bomber
Too edgy? Not edgy enough?

>>527202486
Huh. I didn’t know Dredd was such a whacky setting.

>>527226745
Dredd the Apocalypse War is so goofy over the top it's fun

>>527226745
Bruh, they literally voted for an orangutan irl

>>527226745
It’s a very fun one, Dredd himself is also more interesting than the way people that haven’t read them like to portray. He’s a hard ass but he also tries to work within the law to show a bit of mercy to down and out of their crimes are petty. But he’s a complete bad ass when it comes to real criminals

>We'll have a nuclear conflict in middle east before the arbites dlc

WE WERE SO FUCKING CLOSE

>>527227452
>He’s a hard ass but he also tries to work within the law to show a bit of mercy
The arbeetuses are obviously based on dredd lore and the word "non-lethal" came up way more often thani had expected when learning arbeetus lore

>>527195520 (OP)
It's such a massive step down from Vermintide that there are no xenos companions or weapons in their 40k game. I miss being heroes on a quest instead of piss ant zombie soldier exterminators. Character Creation instead of pre-made heroes was a mistake. That's part of why Darktide only has like 5k more players at its peak than Vermintide 2 did.

>>527227637
I was going to ask how this would in any way be relevant to anyone who isn't a shitskin, but I guess many in here fit that bill

>>527227637
Nothing will happen

>>527227805
yeah enough with the US politics

>>527227789
Uh huh >>527179587

>>527228040
In my defense, I went back to sleep after posting that and the thread 404'd before I had a chance to reply to any of the replies. So I am admittedly recycling my post.

>>527228040
Yeah my previous post didn't get enough engagement and I think it's a solid point, problem?

>>527228167
It wasn't worth posting once, much less twice

>>527227637
i don't care who wins as long as Israel loses.

>>527228193
this anon isn't me, in case it wasn't obvious from the fact he didn't beat me to replying.

>>527228321
It's obvious this anon isn't me because he doesn't have a massive cock.

>>527228441
He's also being off-topic and anti-semitic

>>527228562
And he likes men.

>>527228663
Plenty of reason for that gay nazi scumbag to take a mandatory break from 4chan

huh we love israel here
what the heck

I'm afraid this will raise the kebab price.

I love this guy at this point I can't believe it's not a parody account.

>>527229917
>13 missions available for all difficulties is huge
Darktide has 20 missions. Why stop at 13? Why treat this like an incredible solution to a problem Fatshark invented for themselves?

>>527225247
Fatshark explicitly said in some forum thread that the dog cannot do this.
We don't know whether it'll have a skill tree node to allow it to do that anyway, but since they said no, I assume no

>>527229540
They raised the kebab
Arbites is now 1.5 kebab

>>527202276

okay, let's analyze this:
>what is a shotgun in video games?
Shotguns are defined by the short range, high damage/oneshot capabilities, and spread (mostly).
If I want to run a shotgun I want my weapon to oneshot motherfuckers in a short range, and I accept the trade-offs (relatively slow reload, low accuracy at longer ranges, maybe limited ammo)

>BUT THE OVERLAP rat.jpg
shotguns overlap with high damage weapons (sniper rifles, revolvers etc) and short range weapons (SMGs, pistols).
If I want to make shotguns stand out when compared to the above, I should emphasize the traits that stand out from the weapons mentioned: revolvers have high damage, bullet reload and can potentially oneshot, just like sniper rifles, and SMGs pump out damage in short ranges.
So spread, maybe? The horde clear you mentioned?

>in DT context
clearing waves with a ranged weapon is usually a bad idea: can't block, ammo economy, weaker/lack of crowd control (pushing, stagger in general).
how to avoid that? either give them infinite ammo (nonsensical), or go in the other direction entirely; make them strong, but lackluster in ammo; basically an "oh shit" weapon to pull out against a pack of ragers, with some capabilities to snipe specials in medium range.
...
So we end up with the shotguns we have now. But the Combat Shotguns suck ass vs packs of ragers. so uh,

>WORDS WORDS WORDS TLDR FAG

Literally just buff dmg vs flak/maniac on the shit we have, and increase baseline cleave.
Make the different marks strong vs different targets, via different baseline ammo: mark vs ragers (maniac/flak on special), Ogryn (unyielding/carapace on special), and generalist (unarmored + fire shot, geared towards boss damage)

>>527227805
>>527227891
This. So. Much. This!!!

>>527231438
>what are shotguns in video games
I'm tired, barely slept, fuck my poor grammar

>>527227789
>>527228167
you could have just replied to the replies if it was that important. what you said is dumb.

>>527229457
“we” don’t it’s our new tourists

>>527232048
They going full ogrynheimer on those filthy heretics

Sex with Eldar

>>527232954
Lex-With-Eldar

Why are they keeping this power maul with no shield a secret? That is very clearly the 4th weapon they were referencing in the deluxe edition, but there's no picture of it featured.

>>527233485
The shield is just more interesting

>>527234059
>heavy combo alternates swinging the mace then the shield, as if the shield was a weapon, like the arbites is a fucking retarded ogryn just flailing
I feel the opposite.

>>527225662
>>527225532
They'll still be trash

>>527234183
Now imagine how boring the maul is

Haven’t played Ogryn since before the rework, what’s the class looking like now in terms of optimal weapons, builds, etc.? Give me the full rundown on how to really make him into a beast

>>527231578
>>527227891
might want to turn on the news

>>527234794
Cope harder, doomtard

>>527234806
Those are power mauls, should be far more fun than shock weapons.

>>527234183
*drives my iron rimmed shield into your face*

>>527234823
You can play pretty much everything. The class is arguably the most viable in the game now. Give it a whirl and you’ll immediately see the difference.

>>527234914
>you're watching nothing news
>greetings, chuds. I'm your host, Chuddette. And todays news is a whole lotta nothing, just like always

>for "tougher" *snicker* targets, the arbites shotgun packs a *snort* "unique" punch with its sp-*pffft* special issue ammunition

>>527234914

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the 20 people here who still play DT regularly actually like how generic and uninspired by its own setting it is.

>>527236271
dont confuse the words "viable" with "grossly overpowered and game breaking", they mean different things

>>527236815
Ughhh do you ever stop whining?

>>527237143
I know.

>NDA drops
>youtubers all show they've been playing arbites for 200 hours already
>arbites havoc 40 true solo "erm actually I think arbites is a bit overtuned, so they'll probably have to rework this before it comes out"
>arbites releases kneecapped, with almost nothing the tubers showed making it in because it was too fun to be allowed
search your feelings, you know it to be true

>>527237853
*pisses in your gaping maw*
Oh my, this toilet is most excellent!

>>527234823
>what’s the class looking like now in terms of optimal weapons, builds, etc
Extremely versatile, still retardproof. Anything you can imagine that you might want to play, is now, at worst, probably viable.
Optimized builds are retardedly OP. Just build into all of the damage reduction you can get, bleed, and the bottom left keystone with attack speed. Weapon choice is honestly secondary. IIIb club is busted as fuck, but shield and pickaxes are just as powerful as they always were.
PBB received major nerfs (but it's still good up to aurics), but BLO received massive buffs, and shit like free Rumbler spam is actually very strong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAwKkwrxe8A
>I've played with it and it, it's... uh... it, it *sigh* it looks very powerful here doesn't it.
Dead on fucking arrival. DS4 and boltgun it is.

>>527238578
>arbeetys
it's worrying that a playtester pronounced it that way

>>527238135
Bro folded under no pressure
Bro's bait only lasted through 1 post

>>527239791
*continues urinating in your upper orifice*
Drink it all for me, my little urinal...

>>527234823
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9f246d40-dfa6-4c48-b780-2f02a627d7f3
This build is centered around the IIIb club. Unyielding kills bosses faster, carapace kills crushers faster. Skullcrusher is for more damage, thunderous is to make your bleed stronger. Yes, you technically kill armor fast enough with bonks, but you sometimes have to slap.
Achlys single stubber is purely for reliability and versatility. There are better options (I like grenade gauntlet more, but rumbler is better), however, nothing can snipe faraway specials like the single stubber, and you can never trust your retards to so much as look at snipers without getting domed. Maniacs I believe lets you body shot trappers dead, and quickly target switch to mutants if need be. Flak makes bodyshots on scab gunners relevant. You could run any other perks. I've seen damage vs specials and crit damage both do okay, but didn't feel like I needed either. Blessing are for headshots, plain and simple.
Health, health, toughness is my preferred setup because it gives a LOT of room for error. Full toughness is better if you're actually good at the game and paying attention, but I'm playing ogryn to turn my brain off. Gunner resist unfortunately stacks multiplicatively, but maxing out on it lets you be even more of a braindead button mashing ape. 1 sniper resist makes them a lot less threatening, you could even run 2. Corruption res is so you don't have to pay attention. You could just run all toughness and health, or stamina regen instead.

Taunt CDR is chosen for more braindead, and staggering trappers before they can fire. The damage amp is technically better, but harder to play, and I don't want to use my brain. The rest of the build is just max damage resist and attack speed.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/510
This mod is an auto clicker. Cycle step three, and set it to special, special, light, if you want to turn your brain off.

>>527239850
Bro struggling real bad

>>527239892
I'm all out of peepee. Thank you for holding it for me.

>>527239985
Nah nah who let bro cook?
Bro pee so hard he poop he pants

>>527238135
>>527239850
>>527239985
This anon wasn't me but this is fuckin' hilarious and I'm very amused other anon just kept shooting at silhouettes after I closed the thread for a spell. lmfao

>>527239892
Don't worry, little monster! Uncle Monger's got enough piss puree to feed you your entire life. JERRY! BRING OVER THE PISS HOSE, ASAP! THE BOY'S HUNGRY!

>>527240752
why do you identify as "the piss guy"
why does it upset you that someone else was talking about piss other than you

So anyway

Blitzes
>impact grenade
>smigger-puck
>dog detonation (almost assuredly the "no grenade cost" or "restores on elite kills" option)
Abilities
>run forward and smack (wow, never seen anything like this before, rebolutionary)
>floaty vox drone (the ability you will be obligated to take in any coordinated team setting because it's basically just bubble, shooter disable through suppression and team toughness restore in radius)
>doom guy mode (cannot sprint, actions do not slow you down, take less damage, move faster)
Weapons
>shotpistol + shield
>maul + shield
>shotgun
>maul
Is that it, then?

>>527240846
Someone posted
>*pisses in your mouth*
At him and he has been copying him ever since

>>527240846
i'm not the piss guy, and nowhere in my post did i express any negative feelings toward the anon who made all the piss jokes? on the contrary, i said i found him to be very funny.

>>527239708
You can't expect an american to speak latin without an accent.

>>527243906
Only latinos can speak latin properly

>>527244421
The hint is in the fucking name lmao

>>527244421
>>527244502
*latinx

>Law'zel is roleplaying kislevite royalty
A bit disappointing.

>>527195520 (OP)
Is arbites the most boring thing they could have possibly chosen?

>>527245248
I think hive ganger had the potential to be much worse.

>>527244980
Lol, and here we already have the concern trolls. You don't like Devora Wilde and that's okay. Most people do though.

>>527245410
>braindead coomer simping for some VA that did a character he's addicted to masturbating to
nta, but I wouldn't know who that is without the thread constantly shoving it down everyone's throats, and I don't care about laezel. The fake slav accent is cringe and what little we heard of the voice doesn't sound particularly interesting.
Edgy throat cancer retard on the other hand, is fucking hilarious.

>>527245410
It's my honest opinion that Lae'zel is nicer to listen to than Tzarina Katarin.

>>527245248
Could have been shitling, shittari, elderp etc

>>527245548
>Edgy throat cancer retard on the other hand, is fucking hilarious.
I'm tempted to use it as well. Brothers in arms with my Judge Zealot in their setting appropriate cringe kino.

>>527245712
Shut the fuck up.

Arbiter Kerillian sounds much better in the extended gameplay video than Arbiter Katarin.

>>527245840
Lex-mate

>>527245712
Machine cultist/skitarii would have been 100x more interesting, more unique, and open the avenue for way more actually different weapons.

>>527245874
He's right.

>>527245712
Exquisite bait.

>>527245874
>>527245982
>>527246193

>>527245248
>>527245347
Hive Ganger would have definitely been the worst. You just know they’d make their ability overdosing on chems or something.
>>527245548
>>527245840
Trvth.

>judge dredd pointed down at the perp's blood "littering. 6 months"
Who else getting hyped for arbeetus?

>Effectively a baton surrounded by a power field, the power maul has a hidden subtlety: the power field setting can be extensively adjusted so that its disruption effect can vary from bashing a hole through a wall, to delivering a sudden knock-out blow to an individual. This tactical depth-of-use makes it a valued tool of Imperial law enforcement. Arbites shock troops employ the weapon in combination with the suppression shield in breaking up riots.
>Where other power weapons emit a constant energy field, the thunder hammer is designed to energize the power field only upon impact, enabling it to conserve energy until it is actually needed, and allowing the weapon to deliver a particularly devastating blow. Upon impact, the thunder hammer's blue energy field explodes with a thunderous crack, more often than not smashing through armour, and leaving a smoking hole that crackles with blue sparks.
No actually it's a shock maul :)

>>527246667
getting excited to name my arbiter SesbianLexMate and my dog YouJustKnow

>>527246857
I'm gonna name mine Lex-Offender XD

>>527246405
Hive ganger would've continued the "rejects" theme, arbites is clearly breaking it. That's about all I can say about arbites that's nice. So many other things would've been better than arbites.

>>527245982
You what woulda been cool? Some kind of rogue trader entourage character with exotic weapons.

>>527245712
You can add sisters of battle to that list

>>527247291
>sisters of battle
Zealot.

>>527247339
>arbites
Veteran.

EVERYBODY GET HYPER FOR ARBITES

WE WILL, WE WILL ARBITES
*stomp clap stomp stomp clap*

WE WILL, WE WILL ARBITES
*stomp clap stomp stomp clap*

>>527238578
One thing he mentions is that he's making a skill tier list video, and that it will be very long. Which makes me wonder if the Arbites skill tree will be a fucking spiderweb like the Psyker's.

>>527247403
Veteran with a dog*

>>527247543
Zealot with power armor*

>>527247543
Veteran with pet zealot*

>>527247564
Zealot with a slop cosmetic*

>>527247631
I snackcept your chocolocession

>>527245248
i dont know anything about Warhammer, but I play any fps/tps shooter

>>527247339
Veterans of battle

>>527246857
>>527247273
shut up fag

>>527247284
True. It could have even been someone on Brahms crew, but they would have had to have been introduced from the start for that to make sense.
>inb4 they just throw in Brahms herself

COME ON EVERYBODY

WE WILL, WE WILL ARBITES
*stomp stomp clap*

Rejects are out
Professionals are in
The possibilities are endless

Op-op-op-op Oppan arbites style!

>>527248729
Literally every single piece of arbites news has been complete doomer kryptonite

>>527248916
Have you seen the "gameplay" footage?

>>527248798
It doesn't work with 3 syllables.

>>527248951
Where a bunch of shitters used shitty profane items?
Of course i did, but only a doomer retard would think that was representative of the weapon's actual strength

We already know that the shotgun is gonna be mega strong

>doomers when they see arbites news

>>527249156
>n-no it's not accurate
>they have grey weapons and no talent points!
See
>>527238578

>copesters when they watch a 7 minute long sedition mission where the person playing doesn't use their weapon's activation even once for the entire duration

>>527248667
Prepping myself for years from now when hipsters will lament the early days of Darktide when the game had so much atmosphere.

>>527249554
>autist can't process barely contained excitement
Social tip: if he says it "looks" powerful in a video where he's contractually bound not to directly confirm anything, he's saying it is powerful.

>>527249554
Playtesters have already confirmed that the shotgun is very strong, so the weakness of the weapons in the video would be explained by them being low level grays
Playtesters already said that the shotgun was stronger than any currently existing shotgun

Doomers don't read. They just gather a tiny bit of information and then jump to negative conclusions

>>527250205
>Social tip: if he says it "looks" powerful in a video where he's contractually bound not to directly confirm anything
The deliberate sigh and him saying "it LOOKS powerful, doesn't it?" confirms that it is actual dogshit as a weapon.
It's a very round about way of implying but he gets it across.

The whole thing is a fucking mess.

Ogryn's will soon have the worst shotgun in the game

>>527245248
every choice they make for this game is the most boring thing they could possibly have chosen.

>>527250418
He's sighing because he can't say anything direct, so he implies "LOOKS STRONG, DON'T IT *WINK WINK*?"
Honestly, his efforts to skirt NDA are transparent and this video would be reason enough to never invite him to a playtest again, but it's so close to out I doubt they'll care.

>>527250480
Wrong general, snowflake
May i suggest the helldivers subreddit?

>>527250943
Don't tell them about the actually fun co-op games, we can't stand to start bleeding people this close to arbites.

>>527248916
>>527249156
>>527249531
>>527250205
>>527250307
>>527250943
Good posts by the way keep it up!

>>527251071
>actually fun
if you’re 12 maybe

>>527251260
Unlike Darktide, the game for us mature gamers with a sophisticated palete. They'll never know about our enlightened enjoyment, ay?

>>527250307
Source? And not the hank one

>>527251125
Doomers are insufferable faggots. You gotta take away their talking points
>>527251447
>>527203509

>>527251606
Bro brought the receipt

doomer sisters
*cough cough*
i don't feel so good...

>the tankiest human character yet
>chorus zealot has damage resistance comparable to ogryn, with comparable health, access to health regen, invulnerability, self heal, etc.
So arbeetus are either extremely overpowered, or the person who wrote the article doesn't even play the game. I wonder which one it is hint: it's the latter

>>527251606
That’s not a play tester, it’s a journo

>>527250453
impossible kickback >> double barrel >> all other shotties, kickback is so fucking overtuned

>>527250653
>He's sighing because he can't say anything direct, so he implies "LOOKS STRONG, DON'T IT *WINK WINK*?"
Yes, and his implication is that it fucking sucks.
Note the shotgun takes 3 headshots to kill 1 scab shotgunner on Malice difficulty of all things.
Even if it was a grey weapon with no perks or blessings, it's still shit because even a grey bolter with no perks or blessings can 1 shot scab shotgunners on Malice.

>>527252142
Hank is the playtester and the journo confirmed it

>>527252205
>>527252142
Oof. The doomertard cope is getting hard to watch

>>527251606
Retard, that's a fucking journo they are all retarded. Also we already know that the arbites shotgun's special is just a fucking taser round.
Hank is a moron and knows fuck all about game balance.
And only person who seems to have any sort of fucking clue is Mister E and he very sarcastically says "it looks very powerful here, doesn't it?" which already points to the shotgun being garbage and DOA on the 23rd.
Especially considering the fact that arbites get access to the bolter and then recon lasguns, there's quite literally fuck all reason to take it ever.

Can't wait for the dlc to come out so both sides stop baiting each other for cheap bumps

>>527252374
Lol. You're actually getting upset because you were wrong?

>>527252205
He doesn't have anything negative to say about literally any other piece of the arbites kit, and yet somehow you think that one line is a condemnation of a shotgun that he repeatedly calls "sick."
What's next, will you take him literally and say by "sick" he means literally "diseased?"

Holy shit the doomers are actually unironically complete fucking idiots

If the bloomers aren't on the right side, then why is their opposition so fucking retarded?

>the shotgun couldn't even kill two shotgunners in three headshots
what three headshots?

>>527252868
He is obviously baiting
No one is really THAT retarded

DARKSHITE SHILLS IN SHAMBLE LMAO

so what's really the difference between vet and the pig?

>>527253151
Muhammad didn't fuck a vet

>>527253151
Fundamentally different passive trees that might change the way you play the class, a focus on inflicting the previously neglected shocked status, different abilities, you get a dog, class exclusive weapons, even more cringe voice acting

>>527253151
your gun that passes through and instantly deletes everything trades some range and the ability to pen bulwarks for some significant horizontal spread

>>527253151
As big a differenceas there is between the vet and zealot

>>527253151
Every comparison to vet is retarded or disingenuous. Arbites is far more comparable to ogryn. Both fill a tanky CC role.

>>527250418
>>527250653
The weapon sounds good unlike all the other weak ass fart (no reverb) shotguns so he could be refering to the only upside of the gun.

Hello, does someone have the saltzpyre reaction pic where he's depicted as a chad holstering his guns?

>>527253563
zealot's gun that passes through and instantly deletes everything trades some DPS and range for a much wider cone
truly, darktide's classes are varied

>>527253604
The arbites is the vetgryn

>>527253661
Go be a retard somewhere else

>>527253767
I'll be a retard wherever I like, and there's nothing you can do about it

>>527253661
all human classes have
>an ability that restores toughness
>an ability that makes you run faster and deal more damage
>a blitz designed for single target damage
>a blitz designed for aoe
>access to drooling sword and recon las
Obviously all the human classes are identical. Arbites is even confirmed to have access to most of the above!

>>527253851
homo erotic gif

>>527253918
He's a ratpedo

>>527253890
True, we need some ELVES to shake things up around here.

>>527253890
Now you're getting it!

>>527253918
That's a girl.

>>527254150
And what do girls kiss? That's right.

>>527254115
what gun that passes through and instantly deletes everything would an elf have?

>>527252374
>>527252205
these posts really highlight how the doomer is actually unironically some thirdie who barely speaks english and cant rotate an apple in his head

>>527253918
But it’s just a boy running?

>>527254346
>some thirdie who barely speaks english
You just described at least half of the retarded opinion havers in this general. Though it's true that coopg has been plagued by the same small handful of mentally ill thirdie retards making an active effort to shit up the thread for no reason other than mental illness. They're the loudest about shitting on havoc, too, despite obviously not even playing it.

>>527234823
Use the Karsolas pick axe and the game plays itself. Boom.

>>527254583
it’s pretty clearly one or two tards that just despite darktide in general. one of which we know is a seething hellcuck faggot and the other probably a rat tard.

>try the tacaxe in the psykhanium because someone mentionned it's good
>500 to 800 DPS on the crusher
Lmao this is dogshit

>>527254782
I remember it being pretty good against lighter targets, but ultimately demanding that you use it with the bolter because of what you described. Also,
>>500 to 800 DPS on the crusher
This isn't entirely accurate, because chances are you'll have crit chance stacked up from dodging. However, you're also not likely to hit the head anywhere near as accurately in a real combat scenario, so that kinda balances out.

I'm not a huge fan of the weapon though, maybe someone with more experience using it can give better insight.

>>527245982
Remember the whole
>good ol' plasmagun
debacle? It implies they have plans to make AdMech weapons like Radium guns available to other classes, just that their incompetence released the teaser way ahead of time.

>>527255946
I really wonder how they work, maybe there's a huge stigma about pointing out other's errors (or maybe pointing it out would mean you'd have to fix em'). This is such an avoidable fuck up if they just internally communicated

>>527255946
>Remember
I don't remember, what was that about?

>>527256147
they released a vox teaser where soldiers complain about their weapons giving them headaches and needing some tablets, hinting at radiations. The weapons which give radiations are the mechanicus ones, so much so it even erodes the skiitaris twinks. Meaning it could be a radium weapons teaser but the CM quickly debunked with the legendary "it's the good ol' plasma gun" (plasma guns never ever emitted radiation). The fuckup was probably the result of the weapon team working on some shit, giving up but not noticing the marketing department.

>>527256363
>>527256147
found the pic

So why are Darksissies so fucking butthurt each time someone points out a flaw in their perfect game or dares to criticize it? I also find it quite interesting that they were very quiet when the gameplay reveal dropped and only started seething about doomfags after few hours have passed. Were they consulting their talking points? I swear Fatshark didn't have so many retards here during Ratclick glory days.

>>527256943
esl

>>527256943
here's a (you) because I want this gen to burn

>>527256943
Intelligent people wait for the information to come out
Doomer mongoloids jump blindly and retardedly at whatever they can get and as soon as they can get it, so they can have their fun before the facts ruins it

>>527256363
>plasma guns never ever emitted radiation
They emit a whole lot of thermal radiation actually :)

>>527257203

I'm obviously gonna buy the deluxe edition but goddamn did the gameplay trailer look bad.

>>527257124
>Intelligent people wait for the information to come out
They are retards who try to cope with reality. Reality being that the arbites and his weapons fucking suck.

>>527257660
>the arbites
No way to know before the skill tree comes out.
>his weapons
His weapons fucking suck.

remember: nightreign is underhyped and will die within a couple days and arbites will suck!

>>527257660
>>527257719
The shield + melee looks like it might have potential, depending on how the moveset combos (can't tell when played by an actual drooling retard), how useful the special is (it was never shown off), what the blessings do, and how good the shock side of the skill tree actually is.
I have no hopes for the shotgun, and the pistol might be niche, but if the class has access to revolver and recon las, it's over for it. Bolter has already been confirmed, too.

Regardless of how good or bad 'beetus itself is, if the dog isn't good enough to be at least auric viable, the class is probably going to be kind of boring.

>>527251071
LOL

>>527257760
night has the Elden Ring name attached to it, it won't die

>>527195520 (OP)

>>527258270
>responding to obvious sarcasm

>>527258490
sorry I don't speak woman

>>527258434
Devora. Wilde. By the emperor, what a woman... She should step on me.

>>527258603
Please stop.

>>527258603
I like femdom stuff, but I think you're a gigantic fag and a simp for acting this way.

>>527258603
That's not a drawing of Devora Wilde that's a drawing of Lae'Zel

>>527257124
But the information DID come out, we even got an article at the same time. It doesn't look good. Are people here overcompensating for the objectively dogshit launch and the first year this game had? Now that it finally starts getting good, no one is allowed to criticize our Swedish overlords? I think people here are just lashing out due to their repressed feelings of shame after everyone rightfully made fun of them for years.

>>527258434
ISSA ZEALOT WITTA DOGGO

>>527254782
>>527254948
its carapace damage is heavily weighted into headshot crits, its the only weapon with both a finesse and crit bonus stat, so building fully into crit is the play, and finesse and crit damage bonuses do quite a bit for it. most of the really high ones are things like duellist and disrupt destiny which dont really work in the psykhanium and are huge factors for it

that being said, carapace damage is still one of its pain points, but its not as bad as people make it out to be if you play into the weapons strengths. what makes it decently good is that it has the ability to deal with everything the game can throw decently well or better, while also being safe with its mobility, stamina profile, and stagger on heavy/push attack/special. just make sure you use brutal moment for groups, because yes it can actually hit important breakpoints with headtaker

Weapon pack when?

>>527257760
>still obsessed about this

>>527258603
Please never stop.

>>527256943
>>527257050
>>527257660
>>527259582
Still too obvious. The more calm approach is admirable but you’ve said this all before.

>>527258603
you need to go back

>>527261934
>samefag samefag samefag
Only two of those posts are mine and your reaction proves what I said.

LET ME PREORDER THE GOOD GOY EDITION FATSHARK I'M READY I WANT MY CAPE

>>527245248
Could have been a fucking votann/squat

>>527262124
I never said anything about a samefag. Your reaction is very telling too.

>>527260813
next year lul

>>527263065
>responds to four posts
>says it's still too obvious and that I've said it before
>guuh but I've never said anything about a samefag?
Bait or retardation

>>527263328
WAITER WAITER MORE (YOU)S

>rolling steel on the mission board
>maybe I'll finally get this niggering penance finished
>nope, it's sub-human tourists back to back to back that need to be physically escorted forward to even consider progressing, ignore the objective, and spend most of their time hugging the floor
I fucking hate the braindead niggers playing this game. Why can't these actual mongoloids stay in fucking malice?

>>527263328
Should I have replied to each post separately or something saying the same thing? What I said remains true

They should give a 5 days early play tp the owners of the deluxe edition of the arbites dlc

>>527264778
Still too obvious. The more calm approach is admirable but you’ve said this all before.

Lex-mate

>>527224007
triceps

I have a nickname for my future arbites but I don't know if it's nice or too edgy I'd like your honest opinion about it

>>527267943
Is it Lex-Offender, with his trusty companion, Rex-Offender?

>>527267980
Fuck you ruined my joke.

Lex-Worker

>>527268316
and her dog, AnimalAbuse

Arbites name: COPeg
Mastiff: CACAdia

Insult me when you see me in game

Arbiter: LikeZoinksScoob
Mastiff: ImRaRyrorgRaggy

>>527268985

>>527268316
>>527268395
>>527268553

Proud Pittie Owner
Princess (other acceptable options include cupcake, angel, pink etc)

>>527270391
do you feed her children?

Darktide status?
>new class
confirmed shit
>new weapons
confirmed peashooters
>new abilities
weaker bootleg copies of existing ones
>new voices
overacted, underdelivered
>new music
file not found
>new maps
file not found
YEP confirmed huge L by fatshark

>not in the mood for Darktide
>just watch random shits on youtube while I kill stuff in the psykhanium

Getting shitty fps in darktide lately. what settings do you guys use

12600k
4060
32gb ram

>>527272430
play modded ratclick

>>527272471
No.

>>527195520 (OP)
Soul
>>527258434
Soulless

LEX MATE

Lexy singles near you, only a swipe away on LexMatr

>>527273346
Will anons survive for 10 more days?

>>527273346
>releasing on a fucking monday
bruh

>>527273712
I made it like a whole year without playing darktide up until now, so I'd say so, yeah.

PRE ORDERS UP! PRE ORDERS UP!

>>527274180
>actually checked
fuck you

>>527274180
...is what I would say, if preorders were up.....

why would you get excited to buy something early
they aren't gonna run out of keys lil' nigga

>>527274180
>>527274353

>>527259582
About how I feel.
We saw the shotgun in the vid and it's underwhelming as shit and the article confirmed that the arbites shotgun special is just a taser. The shield doesn't look like anything special besides applying shock to enemies.
Not like this matters because the arbites gets access to the bolter and recon las, and since the arbites gets access to the guns shared by classes, there's like 99% chance they get the dueling sword as well. And finally the dog just looks useless and ditching the dog is 100% going to be the meta for all builds.

>>527275492
The shock is important though. Two articles now have mentioned that the Arbites is built to take advantage of the shock with regards to skills, and also a very high likely that this extends to blessings. I was thinking about it the last night. The ability for the shotgun to shock targets sounds dogshit. It really does, but then if they weren't going to make a shotgun that just flat out invalidated the Agripinaa then there must be a third way. So, taser round.

Now, I think we've all been correctly doomering about how it's a side-load round with the capacity to hit one target. But what if it wasn't? No one has talked blessings, and I know that's because the people who got to write about the class are retards being paid to play. What if there was a unique blessing that turned the special into chained lightning. IF (and it is a bigger if than I can make) that turns out to be the case, then you now have a weapon that can lock up Crusher and Rager gangs on the fly without needing to Smig. And I see no reason as to why that might not be the case since the round is specifically written as being able to deal with tougher targets, so Ogryns at a minimum fall in. Couple that with shock status stacking (probably), and skills that amplify this effect, on top of the ability to do damage generally and there may very well exist a world in which the shotgun is fucking great. Of course, that's a giant if at the start. Should it have a chain lightning blessing then that could back up Hank's claim (fuck him) that the shotgun is actually really fucking strong.

>>527275492
>hurr weapons bad
yeah and they were playing on like sedition with low tier weapons with no blessings
playtester already said it hits like a brick when actually leveled
and the article about shotguns getting buffs because the new one was just that strong that it needed competition
honestly you just sound like a sweaty meta fag that wants his shit to stay at #1 and can't stand the idea of using anything but DS + Bolter

I think the old shotguns will be better than the new one just because the new one seems to have a horizontal spread

I wish that fully charged Special Attacks with the Psyker's Force Staves emitted a disruptive psychic blast, knocking back enemies, similarly to what the power mauls have, and roughly equal in impact to the Force Weapon heavy blockpush.

For the Electrokinetic Force Staff, I'd like to see a delayed hitscan lightning bolt replace the current "tiny voidstrike" bolt. So you press M1, there's a short windup/delay and a thin beam of crackling warp lightning shoots out and instantly hits the target for light damage, or medium damage if they're wearing flak or carapace. Give it a good critical bonus and a very good critical weakspot bonus for some flavor

As for the nu-Trauma, I think it should be given smaller versions of the warpshock slice special that expand in size as they travel through the air. So they'd function like some sort of weird long-ranged slicing attacks, maybe giving the projectiles some extremely intense bullet drop too so skilled gamers can mortar giant invisible psychic knives at crowds of shooters hiding behind light cover

I will not buy the DLC because the new class looks like shit. The weapons look like shit. We already had mauls, shields and shitty shotguns. All three of these suck dick.

I'd like some new Psyker staves regardless because its been 3yrs with nothing but the same 4 at this point

>>527277154
What kinda staff would you want, Anon?

>>527277205
NTA but what if Void except it was anti-grav? More heavily charged and successive detonations on the same target keeps them up longer and lifts enemies with greater mass. Up time drops off from the center. IDK, I think floating dudes who can't do shit is better than Electro/Smite. Although that just makes it into another utility staff, and I don't think Psykers want another one of those.

>>527277472
Personally, as a shameless healslut, I want a toughness regen staff.

>>527276908
The old shotguns might be better against a single target maybe. Conversely, horizontal spread has better crowd control and can pop the heads of a row of ragers and shotgunners while presumably staggering maulers. We only need to see if that's doable when fully optimized before passing judgement.

>>527277868
The horizontal spread being the default instead of a special like the Zarona or whichever is really making me hope it can hit those breakpoints. I want to put Rager spergs straight into the ground by the handful.

>>527277205
Bolt Staff, basically. Doesn't need to be 1:1. Same with Coruscation staff and maybe Beam.
IIRC there's a beam staff in the files with the charge being a mini dome

>>527278086
there is no reason that shotguns can't absolutely dominate the ranged anti-mutant role

>>527278086
I could swear I've seen circular groupings suddenly show up during arbites gameplay previews, and I'm also like 99% certain we haven't seen a single arbites hold m2 and fire even once

>>527278313
Imagine if shotguns can stagger mutants out of their charge

>>527278198
W-what?

>>527278783
You might be thinking of the reveal trailer where they only used circular groupings. I'd have to go check the gameplay footage again.

>>527278783
Circular groupings are probably from the shotpistol.

wtf is the point of tactical axes? they dont seem very good whatsoever

>>527279170
flavor

>>527278996
found it in the shorter gameplay reveal, think it's just a visual bug because I didn't notice the first time I saw it that the muzzleflash is still the flat arc

still, I don't think we've seen an arbites hold m2 with that shotgun out yet, and mr. e did explicitly refer to it as "the executioner shotgun," not "the arbites shotgun" like fatshark did

it can't be an executioner shotgun without executioner rounds

500kg should be detonated like 5ft off the ground, not when it's in the ground. Would give better LOS to enemies.

>>527277063
I will buy a 3rd deluxe edition one in your name, the 2nd is in the name of another anon from a few threads ago

>>527279261
But anon, there's no flavor WITHOUT SPORT

>>527279323
Actually, I think it is center fire. Take a look at three minutes almost on the dot in the new video. The Arbites who isn't the PoV and is on the right to the PoV guy keeps ADSing based on the way he's holding the gun.

This isn't Halo general

>>527279170
midpoint between combat axe and knife

>>527279323
Also interesting to note:
>the shells being loaded and ejected during the extended gameplay are just standard red plastic shotgun shells
>the thumbnail shows one of the solid brass rounds on the top rack missing, even though we never see that during the gameplay preview
I'd bet money the weapons activation loads an executioner shell from the top.

Devora-Wilde

>>527279626
got the keychain after 6 attempts this fuckign phrase is engrabed in my memory my friend was saying the line each attemp

>>527279323
Executioner shotgun is the Arbites sniper shotgun which isn't in the game yet

>>527280168
He is going off of what Mr. E said. He accidentally said the words "Executioner Shotgun" when talking about the weapon. Now, either that's a slip of the tongue and he wasn't supposed to say that or he is playing stupid for some reason. I mean, yeah, explicitly the shotgun in your image is the Executioner Shotgun but who the fuck knows.

Did any playtester mention Devora Wilde yet

can't wait for the Arbites/savant psyker interactions

>oh I'm a cop too I was in the enforcers you know and...
>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU MONGOLOID FRENCH WHORE YOU AND I ARE NOT THE SAME

>>527280859
Nope

maul only chud actually appears earlier in the extended gameplay preview than the end when he's swinging, just noticed

>>527280991
Yeah, near the door to the next zone.

>>527279893
They do a cut very early on in the video, and the assumption was that someone used something they didn't want to show yet.
This arbiter is missing one of their top rack shells.
I am fully fucking convinced now. My schizo theory is facts. I will lose my fucking mind and crash out if this is all coincidence.

holy fucking shit i hate playing veteran this is such an unfun shitty class

>>527281457
Filtered.

>>527281534
why the fuck do i need to sift myself through a filter just to have fun with a class you stupid skillcapped nigger holy shit dark souls was a fucking mistake and has permanently ruined gaming forever

>>527281457
What are you not enjoying about it, compared to other classes? Sounds like it might be a build issue.

>>527281684
Quit yapping, you got filtered. *bzzzz* hear that? it's my water filter, you're passing trough it and what do I find in the filter drawer? that's right ! it's you and all your dirty words!

>>527281684
sometimes you need to play something two or three times to understand the fun in it adhd zoomie

>>527281457
>voice of command
>golden toughness
>spam off cooldown
>profit
it's rly not that hard

>hire Devora Wild
>ask her to do the worst fucking slavoid accent ever
I hate that trope. Slavs are not cool.

>>527282619
We want the gopnik audience, it's the only way to make them spit 12$

I could bet that arbites won't have ANY cosmetics to buy for dockets or penance/havoc cosmetics, would fit fatsharks work ethic

>>527282795
dude, your deluxe edition?

>>527282310
Spamming VoC on CD is not fun or interesting. It's a crutch for the entire class.

>>527282884
Try stealth some time, depending on the mission. It's a little harder to keep yourself safe, but it's a huge help in some missions, especially clandestium gloriana during the second section with the annoying ass power cells you have to shove back into the machines.
Unfortunately piss toughness is always going to be the best because it helps the entire team. Vet can't permastagger shit like ogryn does, so the only other way to keep your retards safe is to kill everything super fast, which isn't all that easy to do.

>>527282619
Dude it's THE Devora Wilde. Let her cook. She's beyond capable, a real mommy.

Pissvision is a total meme. It deserves to have its instant reaload back.

>>527283715
the instant reload wouldnt even make a difference in the current meta, shit got powercreeped so hard
>wow ur bolter can shoot 30 times
yeah and shredder nades hit infinite targets with 100% armor pen and regenerate

>>527283715
I weirdly like having a pissvision vet in the team, but only if they share it. It is pretty bad, but I also think the worst part about it is the kind of player that uses it. They all just constantly eat shit because they're busy shooting and get raped by a single poxie.

>>527283878
they need to fix the magic armor pen bleed grenades, it's just silly and clearly not intended
it's actually crazy they removed ranged armor pen from zealot FotF but not shredder nades. I can only assume fatshark is totally oblivious about it.

>>527284351
different playtesters with different values. Look at how psyker and vet keep getting buffs. Vets last change to cdr was getting less cooldown on shout, making it more spammable. Zealots cdr changes have been consistently bringing it down. Same goes for Ogryn. He had his bleed talent interactions with blessings nerfed, so he cant apply skullcrusher and thunderous with bleeds anymore. Nothing ever nerfed how uncanny benefits dots tho.

>>527284650
i think uncanny + dots is fine, as long as the grenade interaction is cut.
Melting 1 enemy at a time is ok. Melting the entire screen regardless of armor type is a bit much.

>>527285078
It's not fine with perilous combustion either but otherwise thats probably right

>>527281534
>>527281860
sorry anon i calmed down im not mad anymore
>>527281795
melee talents and gun talents are mutually exclusive. you can be shitty at both or great at one. i just want to be pissvision shooter remover. what i really want is to have a nice defensive weapon like the dagger but less shit against hordes. i got a quad 80 tactical axe and im going to try it out later. i dont care about the ds im not using it. see pic related for build. i dont like any of the keystones whatsoever. theyre all equally shit and bad and gimmicky. i want talents that make me better at the way i want to play, not talents that force me to sing a song and dance
>>527281929
800.6 hrs
>>527282310
i dont want to play zealot

>>527226745
You should read Block Mania+Apocalypse War or The Cursed Earth, they're some great early Dredd kino. The Judge Death stuff in 149-151 and 224-228 is great too and is chronologically just before Block Mania.
Dredd is great because the storyline doesn't really reset or get retconned so the Apocalypse War is still reverberating through the Dredd storylines despite being released 43 years ago.

>>527227452
The Dredd comics have multiple depictions of Dredd both in art style and in the type of 'cop' he is. Outside of the 'main' comics (Origins, The Cursed Earth, The Day the Law Died, Judge Death etc) the rest is mostly wacky, out-of-this-world filler with little basis in reality and little narrative drive beyond the occasional multi-issue comic. One example is a filler comic where he had to deal with a 'bum' fashion trend (people having 'flaps' in their pants to show their bums) and he was only able to put an end to it when they did it at the front, where laws already existed to stop that. Depending on the author, he can outright ignore lots of trivial crimes, or be the most jobsworth person imaginable.

>>527213627
Most common deployments for Guardsmen are either against Orks or other humans so they probably meet mutants often enough.

>>527227694
You can't have police killing your labor force

How would a Ratling sub-class work in the game? You could theoretically be a sniper (Although a lot of the map is closed in).
However, the biggest issue would be melee, which is required by everyone, as you'll be half the height of most things and have few melee weapons to boot (If we go by the official Ratling Kill Team kit, Ratlings have only got shitty knives and are Strength 2).

I could see Militarum Tempestus, or even buffed-up servitors, but not Ratlings

>>527285515
infantry lasguns barely hit any relevant breakpoints with piss vision, pick something that shoots faster for less damage

>>527286287
introduce a new faction as well that has smaller enemies (like grots or some shit) and now its not a straight drawback anymore
also, bardin in vt2 had straight up better weps to compensate

>>527285515
>Sounds like it might be a build issue.
Yeah looks like a build issue alright.
>melee talents and gun talents are mutually exclusive.
They're not, it's just that veteran is tight on points, and you're spreading out into things that don't help you actually achieve what you want.
>what i really want is to have a nice defensive weapon
Shovel mark 1, the one with the special stab. It lets you do the bleed exploit. If it's not defensive enough for you, run a single stamina curio with any combination of block efficiency and/or stamina regen. Else power sword with power cycler and sunder (this one lets you cleave carapace). Sword is unfortunately slow as fuck, but it also hits appropriately hard.
>i dont like any of the keystones
Based. I often find myself going down the center keystone anyway, because the left and right side buffs are actually very nice, but none of the keystones are particularly amazing.

Check your curios. You definitely do not need more than 1 sniper resist. Your 5% perk should always be toughness, not health.
Try to go much more lean on nodes that don't help you much, prioritize ones that actually do. I don't see iron will or demolition stockpile, yet you choose field improv and leave no one behind (???) then complain about not having points to melee. Also not taking confirmed kill, AND going left but not for the reload speed, is extremely confusing to me.

I'd start with picrel and refine from there. Maybe consider using deadshot. Definitely consider using a better gun. Maybe genuinely use power sword for horde clear and swap to kraks if you intend on using a meme gun that can't kill bosses.

>>527286493
>bardin in vt2 had straight up better weps to compensate. Also, he is a dwarf, who while smaller than most other foes, makes up for it by being a stubborn and tanky close range fighter. Ratlings shoot and scoot.
Fantasy also didn't exist when he got weapons, so GW wasn't going to give a shit.
Ratlings now have an official kit. Going against the official kit and giving Ratlings custom stuff is going to bring down the wraith of James Workshop himself.

>>527285515
>>527286608
Adding on to this, I should note that power sword doesn't need melee talents at all, it just cuts through everything. The main downside is, again, that it's slow and has atrocious mobility, so be prepared to get stuck in, since you can't really escape. With power sword, you free up the bottom right entirely, and can put those points wherever you like.

On the other hand, piss vision lacks defensive capabilities, and I'd make a case for taking either center or right capstone, because both have toughness replenishment on them. You've built into shock trooper to save ammo on crits, but aren't even taking deadshot to actually reach relevant crit rate. You could potentially afford to drop the bottom left side entirely and instead go deeper down the other capstones. If you want to be really greedy, you can save points on piss vision sharing. You could even ditch the grenade upgrade in favor of better defenses (you could potentially grab at least 2x +25 toughness nodes in the build I posted, by dropping the grenade upgrade)

>>527286287
Tempestus are just super vets
Servitors are just lobotomized vets
Ratlings will be vets who can't fight well in melee yet also can't snipe effectively

>>527285515
>damage resistance to snipers
?!
anon, just press space bar once?! it dodges the shot...
damage resist to gunners makes sense, but it's not NEEDED, after all you can just slide and are supposed to play around cover at all times
revive speed and extra health are bad bad choices, replace those with 5% toughness, that way you get a total of 15% toughness which is equivalent to another curio
replace the sniper damage resistance with combat ability cooldown reduction
replace gunner resistance with stamina regeneration (moreso optional)

for the talent tree, you'll want to go with the right side top, it is just much more useful than the nodes to the left
the top two middle nodes are very inconsequential too, specially the 2nd
you want to choose CATCH A BREATH instead of GET BACK IN THE FIGHT, the toughness regen is much better and much more consistently useful. GBITF has a 30 second cooldown.
covering fire is REALLY bad, 5 meters is a nothing distance, your allies will have melee killed whatever you wanted to shoot. You will get no value out of this.
you need IRON WILL, it is REALLY good
you want PRECISION STRIKES, it's a huge boon in damage. Not suppression immunity. just get into cover if youre being suppressed, you should never be in a position where you can get suppressed
Do not get ENHANCED TARGET PRIORITY for Exestance, it is TERRIBLE. Get Ogryn targeting instead

>>527286729
I dunno who gives a shit about tabletop stats? Ogryn weps are on par with human weps, too. If they add a ratling they would just make his weps balanced. Ogryns also have custom shit in darktide

New talent tree blog

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825
ARBITES TALENT TREE LET THE SHITSTORM BEGIN

>>527285515
>800 hour player making builds without iron will
crazy

>>527287153
>revive speed and extra health are bad bad choices
Not him but I completely disagree on this point specifically. Depending on your source of stagger, revive speed on your curio can reach the required breakpoint to shout/grenade/chorus and revive someone before enemies are able to hit you. It buys you the necessary split second. I ALWAYS run +10% revive speed on vet and zealot for this explicit reason.
Health, and by extension (a singular) corruption resist also make the difference when playing with complete shitter retards that shoot bursters in your face. Toughness is "better" until it's not because some retard ended up griefing you.

>>527287153
>go right side on top
>pick up cdr with pissvision
absolutely horrid advice my friend, disgusting

>>527287329
Base Coherency Aura: Ruthless Efficiency
Simple, but effective: this is the initial Aura for the Arbites and it gives you and your Allies in Coherency a bonus to reload speed.

Part of the Squad
For those focusing on the Cyber Mastiff, this option makes your loyal companion count as an Ally for the purposes of Coherency. Additionally, this talent also gives every Ally in Coherency a small bonus to Toughness Damage Reduction.

Breaking Dissent
This Coherency Aura increases the damage dealt by you and Allies in Coherency against enemies that are currently Staggered.
OH NONONONONONONONONONO

>>527287329
>>527287306
>Built-in Skullcrusher
>Shotgun perks around the tree
Hmmmmm

>>527287329
>four doggos
>8 coherency
inb4 coherency toughness regen with 8 coherency actually becomes meta

>>527287329
I can already smell a fucking rework in 4 months

>>527286287
>>527287021
Skitts are just Vets with turrets...
also would be the best next class.

>>527287574
>Breaking Dissent
>This Coherency Aura increases the damage dealt by you and Allies in Coherency against enemies that are currently Staggered.

This is the meta.

>Arbites is fucking Foot Knight
I FUCKING KNEEL
I LOVE FOOT KNIGHT

>>527287879
I AM A KARKING BATTERING RAM XD

>>527287879
foot knight with le heckin pupper doggo.

>>527287574
>12$ skullcrusher aurawhore for ogryn
grim
dark even

>>527287574
1. Breaking Dissident
The serious option
2. Part of the Squad
The solo carry option

POWERGAP

3. Reload speed buff (unless it's a big number like 25% but that will never happen)

>Arbites is Aura-farming the class
lol
lmao

>>527286608

you are beyond fucking retarded, HOLY SHIT never EVER fucking speak again

>taking +dmg on nades instead of nade regen
>taking the "your useless niggerallies can see specials and elites"
>taking the suppression talent instead of literally anything else, when you're trying to score headshots yeah the enemies cowering will be super useful mmhhm yes
>taking the middle starting tree and the 1 point dip into the left one, instead of just going with the left one entirely and saving the points to, idk, maybe take a fucking keystone nigger

>NOT TAKING THE FUCKING +30% WEAKSPOT DAMAGE
>ON
>A
>FUCKING
>EXECUTIONERS STANCE BUILD

you need to be publicly beheaded in the streets by the ICE agents you seditionlet hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooly shit

genuinely surprised you felt entitled to give any advice, to anyone, on any topic. I'm not saying everyone should be running havoc 40 meta but come the FUCK on nigga

>>527288820
I'm betting it's gonna be 15%: small, but noticeable enough
so still shit lmao

>>527289218
>most of the shit you said
Idunno anon I just went with the build the other guy posted and made some changes. If you want to seethe and sperg, look at the original build.
>weakspot damage
Valid though, I forgor. I don't play piss vision or use dogshit guns that barely function without taking literally every damage node in existence.
>clapistanian immediately inserting politics
>>>/pol/

>>527287329
Literally all of these are just slightly tweaked copypasted talents from other classes. Some (like damage on reload) are even direct copies
I might not buy this dlc after all, low effort trash

Geez a +5% reload speed aura I mean oh wow oh geez

>>527287329
>>527287574
Just based on this devblog I can safely say that the meta build for arse-bites is gonna be
>nuncio aquila
>breaking dissent
>shock mine

>>527286608
here you go
last 2 talent points are basically free and the yellow are your choices
just know that infantry lasgun is a very mediocre weapon

>>527289863
Yeah the one Withering Fire is just reloaded and ready that ogryn has. And March talent is literally just Unstoppable Momentum from Ogryn.
And finally Target the Weak is just Hard Knocks, which is again just copypasted from ogryn.

Arbites as a class is genuinely just shaping up to be veteran + ogryn mixed together with an optional dog.

>>527272471
define modded... i am intrigued...

80% damage resistance btw.

>>527290318
>can't sprint but move faster
>they never specified not being able to slide
>the chorus tech of sliding sideways for mobility will likely work
>you might unironically be faster sliding sideways than walking forwards
>with 80% damage resist
kek

Imagine how much of a crutch this will be for shitters.

>>527289579
>Valid though, I forgor.
yeah I play some off-color shit myself, but this sent me over the fucking edge lmfao
>>clapistanian immediately inserting politics
>imblyign
nigga this grammar is barely passable, thanks, I guess? but then again comparing anyone to a MIGAmutt can be taken as offense in and out of itself


in your build:
drop the long shot, it's minor due to the way % increases from the same source stack
>+1 point
and drop the 'nades dmg increase, seriously
>+3 points
now you can go:
3 points into the left keystone,
2 points into the left keystone and nade regen/weakspot dmg AND the surpression immunity instead of swapping
3 points into the middle keystone (recommended, again due to the way %dmg stacks)

I need a fucking coffee I'm getting way too angry over minor shit

>>527290318
Still shit. Why reduce damage when you can sprint and dodge it?

>>527287329
>devblog about the skilltree
>doesn't even show off the skilltree for some reason, not even a screenshot

>>527287574
>damage against staggered
should be called STOP RESISTING

>>527290518
because it looks cool, nigga

>>527290518
>why reduce damage when you can sprint and dodge it
I don't know nigger, why do you ever die in this game? Because you get hit eventually, or zoned into an area where you can easily get hit. Press F and now you can just walk away from those situations.

>>527290628

>>527290868
>>527290518
or you can pick up your retard lex-brothers with it; can't do that with a sprint now can you

I will use the shitter ability because it seems the coolest and most thematic same reason I will never switch from chorus on my zealot

>>527286608
not using a shovel because improvised weapons look stupid
>that's autistic
i dont care
>power sword
i dont have *activates power sword* anything against the *activates power sword* power sword, *activates power sword* other than that *activates power sword* i use mk6 *activates power sword* with power cycler *activates power sword* and slaughterer but *activates power sword* the fact that *activates powers sword* activating it incurs *activates power sword* a speed penalty *activates power sword* and that it *activates power sword* has absolutely dogshit *activates power sword* block stats makes *activates power sword* it hard to *activates power sword* use with a *activates power sword* class thats already *activates power sword* weak in melee *activates power sword*. it's also annoying *activates power sword* as fuck. also *activates power sword* i've used it *activates power sword* for two years *activates power sword* and its boring
>you definitely do not need more than one sniper resist
id like to be able to survive one blast with low toughness. im keeping two gunners and two snipers no matter what
>dodging
i dodge a thousand times a match. im not going to land all of them, especially whenever my weapons are shit at dodging
>iron will
im hardly ever above 75% toughness. sure its good against big alpha damage but it doesnt protect against overheads (too much damage even with mig) or gunners (high dps), and im already wearing sniper resist. i think its seriously overrated unless i actually see something tangible demonstrating otherwise
>curios & utility talents
sorry i dont play with good players. i get a ton of mileage out of leave no one behind and revive speed. they regularly make the difference between getting off a contested revive or not. same is true for field improvisation. just because you dont value medkit tanking doesnt mean i dont.

(cont.)

>>527286608
>demolition stockpile
i have it talented but i picked the wrong one in gameslantern. whoops. that was a little fucky whucky on my part. also goes to show im not infallible and that i am regularly prone to being shit at times.
>weakspot toughness or reload speed
i go back and forth all the time. i wish i could just take both. i value them equally.
>confirmed kill
my headshot rate is way too low for this to be worthwhile. 30% of 10% is 13%. i dont give a fuck. at least with exhilarating takedown i can spray into a horde and get some toughness regen, though maybe i should switch to reload after all.
>deadshot
i really, really do not like the stamina drain already just because vet is already stamina starved all the time unlike ogryn or zealot (or even smigger)
>better gun
nyet lasgun is fine
>bosses
these really shouldnt ever be a veterans sole responsibility ill be honest with you imo
ill keep 21% hps and 5% toughnesses then, just for you anon. and ill try deadshot and maybe swap some of the other talents around, but i will not be dropping utility picks because i like them.

>>527286971
>power sword
*activates power sword* see earlier rant.

i see merit in the rest of what you said regarding toughness regen however. piss vision being glass cannon seems intentional but i am still allowed to bitch about it. i just dont like not being able to see shooters. i dont understand what veteran's role is if it isn't to solely handle them by himself. this program has retarded game design sometimes.

>>527291241
>>527291294
Never enter my lobbies you monkey nigger.

>>527291349
i qp normal damnation. relax you hyperaggressive fucking sperg.

>>527290868
You're not welcome in my havocs.

>>527286306
i dont actually care about the damage bonus i only use it for xray

ROBOCOP ABILITY IS BUNGA STAY OUT OF MY AUROCHS I ONLY HAVE UNGA BUILDS IN MY TRIBE!

>>527291294
>my headshot rate is way too low for this to be worthwhile.
>>527291294
>bosses
>these really shouldnt ever be a veterans sole responsibility ill be honest with you imo
>>527291241
>>iron will
>im hardly ever above 75% toughness. sure its good against big alpha damage but it doesnt protect against overheads


b e h e a d y o u r s e l f

>>527291425
>>527291349
that's not just him, tho, you ARE retarded

The worst part is, the average player is probably even worse than this. The guy that joins your Havoc rank up games probably has builds similar or likely worse.
The only reason any of the randoms you play with don't immediately fold is because of the Duelling Sword and similar crutches

>>527291425
>i qp normal damnation
Explains why you are retarded and have retarded ideas.
Don't go into aurics, you'll get instantly folded there.

>>527291294
>*activates power sword*
kek
If you don't like dueling sword, shovel, or power sword... I guess chainsword is borderline usable but not particularly defensive. Knife works well. Rashad axe is very defensively stable with its push attack, but has disappointing performance without talent support.
>>bosses
>these really shouldnt ever be a veterans sole responsibility ill be honest with you imo
Technically true, but you're contradicting yourself with
>sorry i dont play with good players.
because bad players panic and scatter when a boss shows up, since they never bring any boss damage. It's technically everyone's responsibility to be able to deal with everything, and builds that can't are worse off for it unless your team is actually good (so, only in havoc).
>i dont understand what veteran's role is if it isn't to solely handle them by himself
Veteran's role has consistently been to remove high value targets (specials) because most of the class tree and unique weapons are best at doing that. Mechanically speaking, the class is uniquely best at grenade spam bleed exploit. Generic shooters are technically everyone's job, but so is sliding under them and having a build that can survive being peppered by random trash.

Btw if you just brought a recon las with infernus dumdum, you could snipe almost as well as most of the other guns, actually leverage crit properly, and absolutely annihilate bosses. The green one works well with deadshot and target down, just bring 1-2 stamina curios.

I'd suggest looking at what >>527290104 >>527289218 >>527290510 posted.

>>527292045
right one goes hard

>>527287153
>dodging sniper diatribe
yeah whatever id rather be able to just tank a stray sniper shot occasionally than otherwise not be able to
>aura radius increase
if it works how i assume it does its a big reason to take it since the whole point of the build is shooter removal duty. i like being able to give that bonus to everyone because shooters are imo the most annoying enemies in the game bar none
>toughness regen when no one's around
im way too fucking shit at dodging for this to ever be worthwhile. i politely decline this advice
>covering fire
that was a typo when i was filling out the calculator. i have grenade regen. whoops.
>iron will
like i said in another reply to a different anon i really think this talent is super overrated. people treat it like its a permanent 50% damage reduction but i don't think it works like that.
>suppression
its pretty debilitating without it and you can still be suppressed in cover. id rather just be able to tank a couple seconds of gunner fire killing them
>ogryn over shooters
i dont discount the threat that ninja crusher overheads pose but i think its less common than getting toughness shredded by shooters

>>527292215
For half the thread we have given you dozens of explanations to why those talents suck and you still find ways to twist and create a retarded scenario about how they're "good, actually" such as the useless aura increase. Fuck off

>>527291985
ok

>>527292045
>Skril-Lex in the center

>>527287427
i dont think it's as good as people claim and its hard to get it with all the other stuff i prefer having more.
>>527287435
good post.

>>527292045
NO WOMEN? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

You don't actually want advice on how to improve, you just want to debate and try to justify you retarded picks

>>527291985
you know what's fucked up? they still end up in aurics/AM randomly, always with these shitass builds, unleveled weapons with nonsensical stats, and 0 ability to deal with any special that's not "unga me poosh explody guy bunga".
There's, like, a 30-40% that you'll get two-three of these retards in any given match, odds increase to 95% whenever there's an event with any rewards included

And you can do nothing about it.

>>527293018
just carry them or grief them before leaving

>>527289218
why are you so moronically aggressive and angry? take a fuckin chill pill dude jesus christ
>nades
theres no reason not to take both. i did in-game but had an oopsy on the calculator. my bad.
>weakspot fagging
i dont care about headshots. they dont do anything so i dont bother going for them. i do fine without them.
>team xray
yes this is a good thing to have and i like it. i personally hate shooters more than failing missions ill be real with you bro
>keystones
the keystones are good in a vacuum and by themselves, but most of the vet talents are better or cooler
>unhinged rant calling for my death because im not as good as you in a video game
based

>>527293018
>grief them before leaving
I'm done suffering for them, if I can't teach them then maybe that YON BARREL/Daemonhost can

>>527293119
>just carry them
Gay, you don't play to be the babysitter for shitters.
>grief them before leaving
This is the way, don't forget to call them tourists before leaving. Remember: racial slurs in voice chat only.

>>527293256
>>weakspot fagging
>i dont care about headshots. they dont do anything so i dont bother going for them. i do fine without them.
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UP

>because im not as good as you in a video game
because you're wrong AND arrogant about it. no-one is perfect, I know, and the game doesn't really matter here, your non-human attitude does. rope yourself nigger

>>527292890
that's how you become good. its called optimization and it doesnt happen in a vacuum. im not going to let 3 redditors, a discord mod, and a handful of aggro retards in this thread dictate my progression to me. i value people's input based on their experiences and preferences, not soulless theorycrafting

>>527293018
>odds increase to 95% whenever there's an event with any rewards included
>And you can do nothing about it.
I always run BOSS RAPER SUPREME when an event is on, because the 70 IQ droolers you mentioned will leave a boss alive for minutes on end otherwise. Piss toughness also helps them immensely, though going slow with ogryn taunt also gets the job done. All classes can utterly rape bosses if built for it. At worst, just bring a recon las.
And yes, even in events that don't spam bosses. A single boss will just kill all the other retards, meaning a single mistake to a dog or trapper (while surrounded by 30 bulwarks ofc) will just end your run.

>>527293119
Man there's been a handful of times where my retards were so fucking braindead that I just chose to stop playing near the finale just to see what happens. It always ends in a wipe. It's hilarious.

>>527293460
>input based on their experiences and preferences,
that's exactly what's happening here, we're (trying) to tell you what works under pressure and what doesnt, you attention-fagging ragebaiting shitter

here's your (You), I'm done with you.

>>527293460
You have 800 hours and you struggle with normal Damnation dude. I was reaching Havoc 30-40 by hour 150.

>>527293269
meant for
>>527293119

>BROS time to get hyped heres our arbites talents!
>check out these uhhh... 5 copypasted ogryn talents
>also 15 second smite grenade
>also a selfbuff ult
>also a circle shout type ult
>also a charge ult
very disapointed

>>527294265
Don't give a shit. I'm a battering ram

>>527291505
then you cant be surprised it feels bad and not worth it, the damage bonus and recoil redux are massive. You also picked suppression immunity despite exec stance giving that. Try testing things out instead of just blindly picking them I guess

TOO MUCH OVERLAP WITH OGRYNS BROS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

un p'tit chevauchement, chef ?

>Consoleniggers plaguing yet another mission

>>527293667
i dont get it, man. what, do you want me to take all the weakspot shit and never hit them, being weaker than i am now for some unknown quantity of time until i hit the HSR% threshold where it becomes worthwhile, or do you want me to just focus on suboptimal bodyshots and perform adequately? seems like im fucked regardless.

also if im making you like legitimately mad and the aggroposting isnt just some sort of funny bit just dont reply. i genuinely dont want you to make you upset.

this is a good general and there's lots of earnest, sincere discussion that happens here unlike a lot of others that are plagued with obnoxious cliquefaggotry and senseless waifuposting


>>527293806
i was stuck in malice for probably a good 600 hours. nowadays in normal qp damn im rarely not the 1st or 2nd in the team. though not on veteran im shit with this class and i hate it.

idk bro youre better than me i guess. i also dont go out of my way to progress. there's no reason i couldnt adopt a more competitive mindset and start optimizing and practicing skills you need to have for havoc but that gamemode is way too restrictive for me. i like flavor and i like being able to do things i want to do, not do things the systems demand from me. i will probably never be good enough to do havoc and im fine with that

what i am annoyed by is that no matter how many damnation runs i perform wonderfully in on all the other classes i am permanently bottom tier on veteran and i hate it for that reason alone. vet is supposed to be a shooting class, but i cant figure out how to make it do that

Is the zealot a normal occasion in 40k can some people just spew psyker magic without any warp issues cus they shout glory to the emperor when they do it?

>>527293256
>i dont care about headshots. they dont do anything so i dont bother going for them. i do fine without them.

>>527295004
>vet is supposed to be a shooting class, but i cant figure out how to make it do that
I mean this in the sincerest and kindest way possible.
You shoot them in the head.
That's what you do. You may not like it, you may be too bad at aiming, but that's what you're supposed to do.
In the head.

If you can't shoot them in the head, don't run the ability designed around shooting things in the head. I UNDERSTAND, even agree with making autistic decisions to not use certain weapons no matter your reasoning. Of course you should use what you like. But if you're using complete dogshit, AND can't even use it correctly, you have no right to complain about the class being bad.
If you just want bodyshots, use a fucking plasma gun or bolter, and if you find those two annoying, run both reload speed nodes.

>>527294467
piss vision and shooting is totally fine, its veteran's melee that i hate. the stamina economy just sucks but what i really miss is camouflage from the old talent system. i dont understand why there isnt a way we cant build into being able to fire away at ranged enemies with impunity

>"the stamina economy sucks"
>not running stamina regen perks on curios
>not running one +3 stamina curio

>>527295004
>do you want me to take all the weakspot shit and never hit them

...

It works in melee, too. And it's really easy to hit enemies at the head level, many of the good weapons (not necesarily the metacancer ds4/knoife/etc) can waveclear with ease thanks to the increase in weakspot damage.

Weakspot damage is also innately high; a percentage increase is more noticeable here, due to the higher base damage.
The damage in Darktide works by comparing the area you hit on an enemy with a table of damage that includes:
Body damage
Critical damage
Weakspot damage
Critical Weakspot damage.
As you can imagine, CW damage is the highest, followed (usually) by Weakspot, then crit, then body.

There's also a concept known as break points, in simple terms:
if you deal 1295 dmg to an 1300 hp enemy, you need 2 hits to kill it.
if you increase your dmg by like, 5%, you oneshot that enemy now.
so it goes from 2 hits to 1. congrats, your 5%dmg increase was actually 100% damage increase.

And it really doesn't matter if you rarely hit them; hitting weakspots consistently is like a 1/3 of what makes you better at this game, if you want to get better at the game you NEED that in some capacity

if you insist of not giving a rat's ass about headshotting the enemies like it's CoD then stil take the talent, it's stupidly good, takes like no investment to take it, and even if it procs very rarely it's still very much worth it.

>WORDS WORDS WROSOR

none of this is reddit theory soicrafting, the difference between killing something now and 1 second later is often the difference between life and death, and anyone here will tell you the same

>>527295116
No, if they did they'd be worshipped as Living Saints, but Sisters of Battle have strong enough faith to manifest as miracles.
HOWEVER, the Great Rift opening has allowed the Emperor to bless his faithful more easily so more incidences of miracles have been popping up, but nothing's really confirmed yet regarding the Rejects' plot armor.

>>527295348
>run both reload speed nodes.

father what is "reloading"?

>>527296805
>based retard anon just wants to shoot things in the chest
>implying he's going to be able to handle swapping back and forth to reload his gun
anon...

>>527296913
my bad lmao, whenever I see "plasma" and "reload" in the same sentence my inner Tranner wakes up

>>527274180
>>527279626
>>527280872
>>527281860
Lol
>>527279675
Correct
>>527282619
Some of them are. Provided they can do the accent properly.
>>527286287
It wouldn’t faggot stop asking about this

>>527281860
I refuse to believe an adult wrote that post.

>>527297560
Have you not heard of autism, anon? On 4chins, of all places?

>>527289074
you need to go back
>>527291932
thankfully im one of the good ones

>>527295670
the stamina regen delay is what feels bad specifically. ogryn can generate his own without any talent concessions and zealot feels like it starts recharging practically the instant it drains but veteran has that stupid cooldown.

an actual veteran melee build with shout is really good and i can do fine with that even with the stamina hog power sword but thats not what i think veteran should be
>>527296138
the way it was explained to me was that they never mattered what the actual fuck.

hypothetically:
>1000 damage base
>1100 damage critical weakspot
>all weakspot and critical damage bonuses only apply to the 100 bonus damage, and not the entirety of the damage

>>527296913
>i cant/dont play fpses so that means im straight up clinically retarded
now hold the fucking phone. i literally just cant aim bro. there's something biomechanically wrong with my ability to click and aim guns in shooters, for 20+ years ive never been able to figure it out. it also applies to just regular mouse cursor usage. i misclick shit all the time

Bro wtf is this Arbites class straight copy-paste from the other mid-ass classes, talents written by someone with 3 braincells max. $12 for that? Nah I’m good, imma get a kebab instead fr fr, at least that’s W food. This whole update is actual NPC behavior, no cap.

>>527297856
>>i cant/dont play fpses so that means im straight up clinically retarded
Well considering you don't have the critical thinking ability required to realize after 700 hours or whatever that whoever told you that crit thing was talking out of their ass, I have bad news for you.

Also are you sure it's not a mouse sensitivity issue? I run OBSCENELY high sensitivity in darktide because being able to turn around FAST is important, so the only reason I can hit headshots is because the head hitbox in this game is enormous. Have you tried running 80% or less sensitivity of what you're used to?

>>527297856
yeah nah, it applies to the entirety of the damage. So if you shoot the boss in the head with a 1000 dmg weapon that's like 300 additional damage per shot at least

that's why everyone here went fucking ballistic on you lmao, it's a LOT of relatively free damage, even more with crit increases (which the vet also has)

>>527297856
>the stamina regen delay is what feels bad specifically.
there are two talents that specifically reduce that: one that leads to the leftmost keystone, and one in a shittier spot on the right.
Both are very good. but in kinda meh positions

>>527298236
>talking out of their ass
they demonstrated it in-game back in november 2022. i had no reason not to disbelieve them and there was nothing i've seen since to lead to believe it otherwise. i also seen a ton of consensus regarding it to be true. that is that "weak/crit damage % = bad"

>mouse sensitivity issue
maybe? but i haven't changed my sensitivity since 2013. its been 800 dpi since. changing a 12 year old habit now feels like a terrible idea

ayo fr vruh, the overlap doe on GOD nigga? nahhhhh sybau :skull_emoji: L take NO cap fr fr

>>527298195
Please be in Phoenix I need to know a good kebab spot. Also maybe we can LAN it up in darktide with kebabs haha jk unless...?

>>527293806
So you started playing last year? Proof?

>>527298913
Overlap isn't good because it makes the class samey and boring.
Also Fatshit just recycling bunch of ideas and talent nodes from other classes just goes to reinforce that they as devs are fucked and are practically incapable of designing anything from scratch ever since the combat director fucked off and made his own studio with blackjack and hookers.

>>527299349
why do you pretend there was any coherent message regarding overlap in that post

>>527295116
>>527296653
Zealots by themselves aren’t a formally recognized position or soemthing, the closest approximation would probably be the militia made up of normal people, but we do have instances of regular people feeling so strongly about something they repel daemons and stuff with their faith in the Emperor, it’s not so much do to with Psykers, but the fact that enough people believing in something strongly enough in 40k will cause that thing to be true.

>>527298953
Bro I’m in Europe, land of kebabs with actual lore. Phoenix kebabs are probably like $15 and taste like drywall seasoned with regret. But fr if you’re down for LAN Darktide kebab sesh I might have to book a flight, imagine cleansing heresy with garlic sauce on standby. haha jk… unless?

>>527298829
>changing a 12 year old habit now feels like a terrible idea
Well whatever you're doing right now clearly isn't working out for you. Check your mouse settings in your operating system, make sure acceleration, or pointer precision, or whatever retarded term they use now, is turned OFF if it isn't already. Then consider lowering your sensitivity in game and see if that helps.
I don't know what your disposable income is, so don't take this as a serious suggestion, but you could consider using a different input device if you're not comfortable with traditional mice. Some people play FPS at a pro level using fucking trackballs. Maybe you are genuinely better off using a controller. If not a stick controller, then one with a touchpad. I can't recommend any though because I'm not much of a controller gamer.

Alternatively, if you're shameless enough to cheat, there's a mod that turns the game's native controller aim assist (and lets you tweak the values to a stupidly magnetic degree). It aims for center mass, but the aim assist may or may not help you hitting heads.
I don't think any official channels have the mod anymore, here's the last version I still have in my downloads folder: https://litter.catbox.moe/c008zpb0ysjscxqp.zip
I don't personally recommend using it, I've found it curious, but ultimately atrocious to play with, but maybe it helps you have more fun.
>inb4 le cheater spergs
Idgaf if the aimlet wants to cheat

>>527299607
>believing in something strongly enough in 40k will cause that thing to be true.
that's partially true for Orks and for noone else, the Warp reflects the emotions of sapient minds possessing souls and that's it

zealot yelling the Holy Words of the Piss of Toughness is same warpfuckery as the psyker, and that's why the psyker calls him out on it

>only 2 new weapons
>dog is retarded and worthless
>it's literally just fk kruber
LMAOOOOOOOO
12 HECKIN DOLLARINOS LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

>perhaps thou might worship me as a saint
So this isnt bragging but actual bewilderment at why nobody seems to care you are throwing out a miracle every 30 seconds

>only 12$ for a Foot Knight sir Kruber?
>by Sigmar, what a steal

>foot knight Kruber
>knight Kruber
>Kniber
>Kiber
>Kebab

My god....

how will copeg name their cyber mastiff?

>>527300791
DistractionCarnifex

>>527292045
cool

>>527300791
Fentanius
or FENT-REACTOR-ONLINE, depending on the length available

>>527300791
Don't know.
I usually just use regular sounding names for my characters.

>>527300791
Schopenhauer

Do arbiters wear power armor? I wish everyone else got armored glams like this. Talents look boring as fuck but i might buy it just to escape the endless fucking tattered rags.

>>527300791
George-Droyd

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>527300841
heh

>>527301260
nah, carapace, only Spess Mareens and SoBs wear power armor

>Carapace armour consists of large rigid plates of armaplas, ceramite or some other strong material molded to fit parts of the body. While heavy to wear and unable to cover flexible areas such as joints, it offers far better protection over lighter types of armour such as flak armour.

we're getting this, specifically

>Hydraphur-pattern Judge's Carapace

The Hydraphur-pattern Judge's carapace suit represents the manifestation of a Judge's authority under the laws of the Lex Imperialis. It is similar to the light carapace suits worn by regular Arbites, complete with distinctive matte-black and red colouring, but also incorporates a storm coat and massive golden eagle topping the helm. The helmet features a photo-visor, encrypted micro-bead and vox-amplifier, while a small light source can be attached to the shoulder pads. A small power pack similar in size and cost to a lasgun's power pack provides enough energy for a week's continuous use.[3]

>>527287329
Once more, like the gameplay reveal, I am going to assume there are actually interesting talents in this tree that inform unique builds which Fatshark has decided not to show because they're miserably retarded. The community managers teasing engagement on discord with reveals like castigators' 80% damage reduction, as if they're allowing us to open a christmas present a night early, solidifies the notion they didn't want to tell us anything good here. Why the fuck do a talent tree dev blog that doesn't even show a pic of the layout then?
>get toughness on kill
>attack faster when attacking
>shoot better when reloading
Is like anti-hype. Are they still doing these for the imaginary audience that hasn't played Darktide and would be overwhelmed with too much info but is scouring dev blogs for the latest? The only bit that caught my eye is charge having the lowest cooldown in the game: so we really are space feet knights.

>>527301927
>80% damage reduction
>on top of other sources of DR
holey moley

>Gameplay reveal
YAAAAAAAAAY!
>Filmed by Hank
Oooooooh.......

>>527302528
I swear this guy could turn Saving Private Ryan's D-Day scene into a fucking snorefest.

>>527302528
>this is the guy telling fartshart how to balance the game
fucking grim

>>527302528
>>527302712
>>527302947
Even on the official Discord everybody ignore him everytime he posts he's fucking embarassing

>>527302528
it wasnt though

>it wasnt an aoe taunt, just an aoe debuff
close enough

how do you spam ping? I've tried remapping these two to different keys. Tag doesn't work on the ground, only enemies. And the wheel thing has to be held for a second so it's not spammable.

>>527304157
kill yourself

>>527289218
Harsh but fair

>>527303056
Are you asking me to do something? Reword your post please

>>527304196
no seriously, i need it for emergencies. Just for a triple tap during Gas to make sure we're moving in the same direction.

>>527304206
fair? I literally told him to get a public execution lmao

>>527304306
Yeah save Darktide by killing yourself, Hank

>>527299918
It's warp-fuckery either way, but while Psyggers can control the warp, it's more likely that all the supernatural shit Zealots can pull comes from the Emperor.

>>527304306
he missed an "s" in "ignoreS", come on don't be autistic anon

>>527304596
>don't be autistic

>>527299607
Zealots are basically the Frateris Militia, a lynch mob of fanatical citizens who fight on the Imperial church/Ecclesiarchy's behalf, which serves as one of the ways the Ecclesiarchy loopholes their ban on having dedicated soldiers.

>>527254115
I don't understand this image, I always get disappointed when a Sienna joins my runs, the character's voice is annoying and her banter is boring. Sienna players also usually come in with a little army of annoying skeletons and go down first.

>>527305079
did you also read those really bad literal mary sue imperial guardess novels

>>527305261
I just listenned to the catachan one on audiobook, was pretty shit and basic I hope it's not the majority of warhammer... "literature"...

>>527304517
I mean these are not exclusive, everything we do is possible thanks to my Beloved anyway

but I think it's really funny how it mirrors Ubersreik Four (or Five) mocking of the Saltzpyre's Battle Priest powers

>IT IS NOT MAGIC

>>527305040

>>527300791
Testes-Remodeler

>>527299918
Not true. Orks have it the strongest because it’s their intrinsic ability, but all races with a psychic presence have the same feedback loop effect. The reason holy symbols of the Emperor have such an effect on Chaos and Daemons is because people believe they do.

When does the Psyker ever call him out for it? And regardless, that would make sense, since it’s a relatively uncommon occurrence and the only thing they can relate it to is psychic stuff

What is best combat shotgun mark? Feels like they all feel kinda meh.
Using veteran if that helps.

>>527305560
>but all races with a psychic presence have the same feedback loop effect.
all races manifest things into the Warp, and when the Warp breaches those things can come out.

It's not the same as with Orks literally imagining ammo into existence, or bending the laws of fysiks because a trukk is painted red so it's obvious that it can zoom 300 mph with no fuel in tank left

>>527305802
I like the Zarona

>>527305802

>>527304383
Spamming the ping doesn't almost ever make people who ignore pings notice them. Because if they're ignoring the first one or two, they're either indifferent to your suffering, drunk, high, actively trying to grief you, playing on console, or all of these at the same time.

>>527305474
xenos, malleus, hereticus, magos, ravenor, returned, rogue, pariah, and penitent as well as first and only, ghostmaker, necropolis, honor guard, guns of tanith, straight silver, sabbat martyr, traitor general, his last command, armour of contempt, only in death, blood pact, salvation's reach, warmaster, anarch, and vincula insurgency are all good and worth reading in that order

>>527305802
Agripinaa is the best long ranged one, with the most ammo and tightest spread but lowest damage, however it has a slug shot that can oneshot most specials/elites, and stagger ogryns.

>>527305802
the first one is a pseudo-revolver, it's decent but the left-click is really underwhelming
the last one is semi decent at cleaving, has terrible ammo economy, and the dot + crit talents+bleed on crit is decent.
On zealot.
So it's pretty shit on vet.

just use the first one, get the exec stance, marksman focus, close range talents, and go ham - discount Arbeetus, but it's really fun

>>527306037
>>527306269
the golden staple of combat shotguns, do as this anon does.

also, this combo used to (or still does) insane damage vs monstrosities, due to No Respite stacking infinitely on weakspots

>>527305261
What does that have to do with what he said

>>527306731
that was the first place ive ever seen frateris militia mentioned in any lore capacity.

>>527306536
>the golden staple of combat shotguns, do as this anon does.
an actual compliment
on 4chan

>>527307035
kill yourself you faggot worthless piece of nigger shit
do it NOW

>>527304196
>>527304453
>>527307293
commit suicide

>>527307293
TOO LATE YOU MADE A WHOLESOME COMMENT YOU HAVE MADE MY DAY

will the darktide update have a new map?

>>527307518
yeah a talent map in the class screen lmaooo

>>527307035
YOU SHOULD LOVE YOURSELF NOW

>>527307518

>>527307430
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

NO NO NO NO NO IT CANNOT BE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN AIEEEEEEEE

>>527307518
you need more??

>>527307623
I THINK WE ARE ALL BEING MEAN TO EACHOTHERS HERE BECAUSE IT'S 4CHAN BUT IN REAL LIFE WE WOULD HAVE A GOOD LAUGH AROUND GOOD KEBABS AND SOME BEERS

>>527307518

10
more
moons

>>527307518
You'll get new maps when Smegmartide releases which gets ignored by the devs for 3-4 years while Vermintide 2 and Darktide get constant updates.

>>527308380
there wont be smegmartide, anon. mark my words