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/g*g/ faggots NOT welcomed here. Go to /vst/ and stop shitting up threads with your shittery. Fuck off.

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"Behind every great man stands a smaller man with a greatsword." - Greatsword.

>decide to play stellaris for the first time in a year
>slowly learning the new mechanics in a playthrough
>going okay
>suddenly "The chosen" spawn out of a space bumhole with a 90k fleet at 2250 and wreck me
I wish paradox would stop designing their game entirely around the cock and ball torture 2230 endgame 25x crisis GA crowd.

what should i play next in my eu4 campaign ?

It's a wrap!

>>527433068
Stellaris is shit.

Now that the roots have spread, how do you feel about the Wilderness origin?

>>527438516
I feel like burning them.

>>527441457
Well that’s not very nice

>lowers all armors by 30%
>check random building armor
>50%
HUH. Sounds very strong.

>dynasty goons get grenades
WHAT?

I believe anime girls are cursed.
Previous thread had one as OP image, and that thread died...

>>527444397
Manah wasn't from an anime.

Yet again a woman somehow ended up as one of my most powerful soldiers, a Brazilian one at that. All my other powerful soldiers died though, including the Israeli/Egyptian female I had. Also before anyone asks why she is a commander, psionic, and genetically modified, I have a setting enabled that allows that to happen, but on the difficulty i'm on/settings enabled plus the fact that it's ironman balance it out.

>two demolishers can ruin any structure in seconds
What. I wonder if they count as Commandos, commandos are elites and they seem to be capped at only one, whereas lesser elite infantry don't seem to have a cap.

>big HP
>get bonus armor from Martial Plan
lol
lmao

I hope they don't die

>>527446637
Huh, so a pact is fantasy language for type 2 diabetes.
Can relate...

>>527450507
fatty

>>527449224
They didn't they were a full sect*id alien rape squad, this squad on the other hand....God help them.

Boutta promote this Aryan specimen

>>527454572
>German
>aryan
Doesn't look Asian to me.

>>527452370
The things I loved were my downfall.
Also possibly genetics.

>>527458163
hey I was just thinking of that political cartoon the other day

>>527457891
Ancient Iranians were of 100% European descent.

>>527459096
No.

Dammit there's a cap on how many techs you can research.

>>527464394
Yes though, muttification of North Africa and Western Asian only happened after The Islamic Empire forced African Wives upon the general populace, natives of Egypt, Afghanistan, Israel, Iran, etc were all 100% European outside of the occasional slave here and there or of course people who descended from Babylonians/Caananites (not many of these, we knew them nowadays as Ashkenazi Jews)

Of course if you go a bit further East to India, they weren't white during this time, their muttification occured several thousand years prior, but they used to be white too.

>>527467965
>Ashkenazi Jews
Fuck is an Ashkenazi? Does it have a link to the nazis?

>>527468048
Ashkenazi just refers to when they immigrated northward and stayed in central and eastern for awhile, so we actually refer to ancient Babylonian/Caananites as Ashkenazi now, the word "Ashkenaz" simply means "Germany" the similarity in spelling is actually just coincidental, but kind of ironic.

>each plan you have running is free gib
>EACH plan
Not any, but each plan.
I am confused.

>>527467965
>natives of Egypt, Afghanistan, Israel, Iran, etc were all 100% European
what is this /pol/tard shit lmao

>>527468630
You realize we have examined the DNA of people both ancient and modern in those areas, and the ancient ones are genetically identical to Europeans right?

We have both Modern and Ancient Examples of Muttification which can create/spawn a Mutt race.

Recent examples of this would include, African Americans, Filipinos, Mexicans/Many South Americans.

You don't honestly think that these races simply just spawned in did you? Many Modern North Africans/Middle Easterners fit this recent history muttifcation to spawn a new race, although some tribes even located in the places I mentioned, in Afghanistan, Algeria, even in some Levantine areas, you can find some untainted people, but this is very very very few and far between.

The most ancient examples of muttification of course is India, I even examined the DNA myself I think by this point, they're only like 10-20% white now. Very unfortunately, some can reach 30-40 but very rare, their muttification happened a long time ago, and we don't really know all the details of it, a lot of it does seem to be speculative of why it happened.

>>527469303
Nice reddit post.

>>527473158
Don't give him any attention.

>ultimate right tech is... a discount to MCVs
Why? By the time you unlock this, you either already won the game or are on the verge of losing, I don't get how this will help.

>>527473625
nice snipping tool usage

>>527473158
Ironic

>>527475531
thanks senpai

Meanwhile, top left tech.

>>527473483
He's right though.

>>527436940
But it's probably better than the rest of the space 4x games. Better than most, at least.

>>527491501

PLAY
TEMPEST
RISING

dead

>playing oogabooga grind as Jeets
>large map
>can't even take over my half a hemisphere size continent because unhappiness from over-extension shits it up

Oh well, it's just the last corner and I'm almost at industrial. Then it's light out for Aztecs on their little continent.

I'm really interested in WitE2.

what I'm looking for
>autistic spreadsheets
>military history
>buttons in game going clicky clacky
>dont mind investing the time
what im missing
>i come from parad*x games, and im missing achievements

I have never played a game this complex though. The manual is 520+ pages.
Other than that I play shit like gsg and factory games. The game is fucking expensive (60eur on sale here). Do you suggest I bite the bullet and try it?

>>527507575
Which one is it?

>>527507826
Gary Grigsby's War in the East 2
It's not exactly fitting for this thread, but neither here nor on vst there is a proper wargame thread

>>527508356
...sorry, no clue. At all.

>can repair neutral structure at the cost of an engineer
YES!
FUCK YOU COMMAND AND CONQUER

>>527515365
Man those infantry blobs don't look safe to operate in at all.

>>527517256
It's okay, they can go "prone", it reduces incoming damage by like 90% or so.
Too bad they only do it at death's door.

Confused how the not!Tiberium intoxication works in facts. It seems easy to avoid.

Confused too as to why my harvesters aren't harvesting.

>>527522771
Do you need to manually control them?

>>527515365
Tempest rising?

>>527522771
I don't even know what game it is

>>527494715
Oh really? Name better space 4x games.

What is it that actually decides what social class new pops becomes in Stellaris?

I've noticed a huge problem with my early game where I end up huge numbers of unemployed specialists while basic worker jobs go completely unfilled.

>>527558304
New pops spawn in at any empty job from top to bottom so empty ruler jobs get taken first and so on. If there's extra they will demote overtime but you could just resettle them or build buildings for them.
That's pre 4.0

>pirated a previous version of Rule the Waves 3
>see the most recent major updated added a dark mode to the spreadsheet simulator interface
I think I might actually buy it for real this time... I want to design more ships

>>527558304
>I've noticed a huge problem with my early game where I end up huge numbers of unemployed specialists while basic worker jobs go completely unfilled.
this is normal, pops always want to promote

>>527530740
Not that I know. Normally they send little harvesters on their own.

>>527540280
Yes.

>>527542673
Ah, that's why. I might be retarded.

>>527550135
Swords of the Stars. Polaris Sector. Gratuitous Space Battles. Sins of a Solar Empire.

say me better game than galactic civilizations 3

>>527577257
>say me better game
esls would unironically be better 4x game designers than paradogs

>Game you like is enjoyed by a tranny
Does this ever bother you?

>>527587119
No, because I'm not a pathetic loser.

>>527592943
you tell him, sis

>>527587119
No, I have theory of mind.

>brush my teeth
>spit up blood for the next 10 minutes
I need to see a dentist

>>527601730
I’ve been the same since I was 7 years old (I’m 19 now), and I haven’t been to the dentist in so long I don’t even remember

>>527604225
>(I’m 19 now)
you are a child

but seriously, take care of your teeth

>>527605005
Thanks, I wish the damn dentist was cheaper so I could go

>>527615632
I fucking hate Horatio.

Did they fuck up robot growth in 4.0? It takes a fucking eternity to get a colony rolling even with the faster assembly speed civic and trait

>>527615878

>>527622408
Fuck you!

>+50% Female Advisor Chance national idea

>start a war in stellaris with overwhelming fleet power
>suddenly lose half my fleets to... nothing, while the AI pulls endless fleets out of their ass
I don't fucking understand this game. Did my guys fucking defect or something? I had a 9k power fleet cross a few systems with 1k starbases and suddenly they're at 5k.

>>527629379
I don't think they can deflect... Did you run out of money?

>>527629416
...maybe

>>527629478
Might be that. Stellaris is so retarded that I wouldn't be surprised if a war caused +75% in upkeep for your fleet.

>>527629379
you know you can check battle results, right

>>527631623
From the sound of it, that's not what happened: half his fleet just vanished into the warp.

>>527645630
SOUL
SOUL SOUL
SOUL SOUL
SOUL
all of them are GOOD

>>527646484
What is the bottom left?

>late game stellaris
>conquer some assimilator retard
>he spammed citadels EVERYWHERE
>have 16 citadels that I'm not allowed to dismantle while the war is on destroying my economy
thanks paradox

>>527669225
More like paracuck lmao.

I don't get Tempest Rising. There are ways for the Dynasty (the Nod) to blow up enemy tanks if they have maxed out "tempest overflow", but I don't see any way to do so.

>>527645630
The only of them I don't recognise is bottom left one. Which one is it?

>Local Marauders go great Khan at 2300
>60k fleet power fleets when my highest is 15k
What do?

>>527684014
if they're close to you and it looks like the AI won't beat them up, just surrender

>>527684135
I mean sure, but then what?
I did it early so I get to keep all my shit while I watch all the AI empires get shit on. What happens when the Khan takes the whole galaxy?

>>527685513
the khan will die eventually, from space AIDS or whatever

Call to Arms: Ostfront Jubilee DLC add a boat.
Now wishing for more naval combat.

I suck at this game but damn I like it.

>>527688095
wat game

>>527681067
>finish binging AoW1 after merely scraping the surface as a baby then forgetting about it
>they announce new AoW4 shit, Archons/Highmen are back now
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/archon-prophecy-expansion-and-griffon-update-coming-on-august-12th.1784869/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtIcPa9D_8I&ab_channel=AgeofWonders4Official
>'Architect' Culture, hope they're different enough from High Culture
>two racial forms, more maps to advance the plot, four tomes
>chariot mounts, unsure if just for hero units only
>Astra are back
>also some biblically accurate angel shit
release date far enough away for me to forget about it

>>527690470
Looks like sacrifice

>>527654325
Maybe one of the divinity games?

>playing wilderness
>do bio ascension
>one of the traditions I unlock mentions being able to assimilate pops into pre-sapients
>try it out by kidnapping other people’s pops and setting their rights to assimilation
>it just turns them into biomass
Uhh..?

>>527428489 (OP)
She hot

My squad finally got an upgrade, been awhile, but got access to the cool armor finally, fully decked out with laser weaponry aswell, going in to try and capture some outsiders to take some countries back.

>>527690470
populous

>tempest rising
>matstick (basic air anti-ground unit for the Nod) throw grenades at ground targets
>when out of ammo, they return to base
>BUT they also recover ammo on their own
Huh? Why even have ammo then?

>set up repair shop
>all my tanks start having sparkles
Huh?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>repair truck becomes a salvage shop
>also target friendlies
AAAAAAAAAAAH

>tfw cheesing the space Mongols to death with space horse archers

>>527694834
I don't know, AoW4 seems to lack a proper campaign from what I read, racial units are even more subsumed by class stuff. Last one I played was 3. It was fine, pretty decent game, but desu nothing will capture the feeling of AoW1 for me. But then again, it was my childhood favorite game.
Also, they did Lizardmen dirty...

anything good on sale? i'm looking for smt to play while waiting for aoe2's dlc to go on sale

>>527741834
Sacrifice on GoG.

Fuck sake, this game is tough. The AI prioritizes taking its souls back, so it ends up being an unconclusive tug of war.

Oooh, nice.

anything good came out recently?

>>527741834
>>527758548
no

>>527741834
Shogun 2 total war.

>>527741834
Been a slow year for 4xs so look at classics on sale

>>527615632
I love that game. And Horatio.

>>527797183
I hate Horatio.

>>527731116
Nah i'm pretty sure that isn't populous.

>>527804701
It's Sacrifice, a really weird one. And potentially the worst lore I saw in a strategy game, I think.
Short of anything Warhammer 40000.

>>527805223
Didn't mandalore make a review of that game?

>roll over Easy AI
>"weird, I remember it being a lot stronger"
>move on to normal AI
>beat normal AI
>"wow, just like before-"
>get achievement for beating normal AI
Weird, why is the AI so easy now? I remember it being a lot, lot tougher, and now I steamroll it.

>>527806597
Yeah, he did. Sadly, barely touched actual mechanisms, like how melee units deal three times the damage to ranged units, or how it takes a lot more time to convert a creature who has several souls.

Then again, I dunno how many missile troopers I have, but it's probably a lot.

Any RTS with mortars?

>>527812846
yeah

Any GOOD RTS with mortars?

>>527821737
yeah

Okay I like Tempest Rising, but transport is complete and utter shit in it.
Why is Supreme Commander the only game to have the ferry beacon system? This make transportation so damn easier to deal with, compared to this shit where I have to load units on one helicopter, wait for it to be full, then click on the second copter, then the third...

Flamethrower.

One of the three specialists you can train as the Dynasty is the line officer. He can inspire nearby infantry to make them move and shoot 50% faster.
Imagine Starcraft 2's stims, but with words.
KANE LIVES!

>>527797183
Spider gonna FREAK

Power lich hours.

Miquella did nothing wrong.

We need more fantasy RTS. Science fiction is nice, but few things beat charging elven lines with a handful of berzerkers.

>>527869232
Shut up, spiderfag.

Pathfinding kinda fudged lmao

>>527880145
Make me.

One thing the GDF has over the Dynasty: it's a lot better at building fortresses.

Ecu/Hive/Machine worlds give 600 jobs per size with 20% output buff
Ring Worlds give 1000 jobs per size but size hard capped at 10
Is my math wrong or is average mid-late Ecu/Hive/Machine planet actually better than one ring segment now?

>>527431445
Landsknecht are so fucking cool, literally mogs every other unit on the battlefield.

>Want to play something new
>Go into my backlog.ods
>Run rng formula
>lands on Stellaris
Welp, the vidya gods have spoken. Time to waste another 60+ hours on a failed run...

>>527745857
Basado. I was thinking about getting back into sacrifice again.

>>527739532
I consider AoW1 the absolute greatest of the series, but I have to play/replay the other ones to see how they hold up to my manchild brain
AoW4 entertains me enough that I'll keep paying attention to it but it goes seriously left field on a lot of shit that just shows how far off from the original it has gone.
>story campaigns are now individual maps. Gone is the grand campaign of the older games where you carry shit with you between maps. There is a plot, but playing every map with the same faction will make no fucking sense
>races no longer matter, it's just a shape you can freely change between maps, give traits and modifiers that you can freely to any species. Not a big deal for me, but it makes your species choice practically meaningless now
>only your civ culture determines your starting unit roster, higher tier units are unlocked with research. Any quirky racial units like in the old games are now either gone or inserted into the greater tech tree so everyone can have them
>heroes made no fucking sense with how freeform they were at launch. Now thankfully they were updated to be more grounded with definitive classes
>NO FUCKING UNIT DESCRIPTIONS
There is plenty I like about it too but that's about all my gripes with it
Lizardmen are a funny case though. They've been gone from the series since forever right? They were in the first DLC for AoW4, they came with dragon ruler types, also came with draconian TF spells so you can bring those guys back too. Despite being DLC locked, Lizardmen turned out to be the 3rd most played racial form overall by the time the 2yr anniversary hit, so a lot of people clearly also care about lizards

>>527888530
BASED. They should be in more games.

>>527889138
It's honestly surprisingly fun, but I need to "get it". Right now, killing mages is extremely tough.

>hmm lets play a megacorp for once
>12 ai empires
>9 othe mega corps and 3 hives
How have paraniggers still not fixed this?

>>527893973
I thought it's intentional, some AI empire spawn probabilities are skewered to fuck over player build specifically.

>>527893973
I recently played a megacorp game where 3 out of my 4 neighbours were xenophiles and there were no other megacorps in the galaxy

clearly, your mileage may vary

>>527891546
>Not a big deal for me, but it makes your species choice practically meaningless now
And that's the problem. Races were a major thing for me.
>individual maps campaign
Not that you mention it, there is a sort of thing like that in AoW1. Almost all scenario maps, besides one, have time dates and I think some lore in main menu description that you can read once in the game/playing on the map (people miss that it's a thing, I think). They serve as a sort of prequel to the campaigns. Pic related is the order you should play them.
https://aow2.heavengames.com/gameinfo/story/aow1timeline/ This timeline also helps.
>no unit descriptions
That's sad too, but I think AoW2 had the same problem that Shadow Magic fixed.
>lizardmen are back
That's nice at least, but I imagine they lack flavor with how the races are now.

Also, on another note, I assume you know of heaven games website, where you can get user created map?
Just in case, here.
https://aow.heavengames.com
https://aow2.heavengames.com

>>527875036
I would love fantasy total war clones
>BUT WARHAMMER
Just not Warhammer. My dream fantasy game would have iron age or early medieval aesthetics, mostly grounded, so like Rome 2 or Atilla in looks, Bannerlord too maybe. But with some fantasy elements on top of it.

>>527903068
So kinda like Warrior King?

>>527903253
Kind of, but Warrior Kings is a kitchen sink type of setting, kind of like Warhammer, since you have Early medieval and Early modern stereotypes. I don't like kitchen sink settings, takes me out too much and it clashes aesthetically.

>>527903606
Right. Earlier than that, then. Kinda like Praetorian, but with some monsters.
It'll be a while, sadly, big-scale games are hard to make, most strategy games seem to be small scales.

>>527903817
Yeah, that and also Rome 2 total war + fantasy and monsters is just not going to get made, since people tend to want the same thing every time so either historicals or over the top fantasy, but not the blend of the two. And for fantasy they want kitchen sink, so you have Vikings fighting gunpowder Renaissance soldiers or whatever else.
I know, my tastes are autistic, but I get angry and bored at how all the games just do the same shit over and over when it comes to aesthetics. Just with better graphics sometimes.

>>527904373
Wasn't there a side game with a minotaur unit?
And I get you, closest I can think of is Age of Mythology.

>>527904495
I think Dominions games kind of come close to that (well not the total war style battles and gameplay, but setting and how monsters and magic fits in).
But with their graphics fidelity it's not only sort of pointless but also even hard to tell sometimes where they are aesthetically. But I think most factions seem to lean on antiquity and early middle ages.

>>527903068
So a Game of thrones total war game?

>>527908524
Game of Thrones is high to late medieval, they walk around in plate armor there. And it's way too low of a fantasy setting, might as well just play Mount and Blade then or CK2 mod for it.

Rome 2 (or Atilla) + magic, monsters and fantasy races would be a better description of what I want.

I thought about getting Anno 1800 but then noticed there's about 30 different DLCs. How much am i missing out on without them?

>>527903068
Bit of a tangent, why is there never any love for bronze age or even prehistoric? I rarely see fantasy stories in those periods, it's always pseudomedieval or modernish. It's been decades since Tolkien, surely people would want something different by this point.

>>527910557
Oh, I would like Bronze Age as well, maybe even Neolithic. But even Iron Age and antiquity is rare and not always well made, and Bronze Age would likely be even harder to do right.
Although, there are Bronze (or mostly Bronze) Age settings, like Dark Sun, and I think that video game Tyranny, or I was told so. But yeah, not much.

>>527910557
Because people generally know less about those periods and for all intents and purposes a you can basically swap out any pre renaissance time setting with each other for a fantasy story anyhow. Like does it really matter if it's a bronze age village where a hero gets the legendary bronze sword or a iron age village where the hero gets a legendary iron sword? Narratively these are both the same story. So why write about something you or your readers aren't really familiar with when you could instead write based on something you know.

>>527911407
>>527912616
Yeah I loved Tyranny, even if was sadly short. You're right that it would probably be harder to pull off, but I feel like the unfamiliarity is an advantage when it comes to fantasy worlds, half the appeal is discovering cool new shit. As for differences, yes a bunch of it is just flavor, but there's definitely technological differences. While narratively things probably wouldn't change too much, you could just as easily flip that around, and ask stuff like why not have people in chariots rather than horseback? It's pretty much the same thing, the intricacies of combat aren't crucial to a story. If people only consumed the familiar, we'd be reading and watching stories about office drones in their 9-5 or blue collar workers miking cement or just a neet sitting in front of a computer all day.

>>527914102
I guess. But visually there would be some differences. Since bronze was more costly we could even see more fantasy dev beloved leather armor, since it seems to have been more prominent back then. Also maybe even wood armor, but that stuff maybe have been more of a native american stone age thing, or maybe we don't have surviving material from other parts of the world.

Civ 4 is the best Civ according to the civ 3 guy. It's official.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za9gIQHQ3K8&ab_channel=Suede

>>527904976
Yeah, but Dominions is surprisingly good.

I may have found spiderfag
>rich
nevermind

>>527930098
>petit

>>527930531
Petit Incel, shack AND a nigger. Almost perfect match.

>>527931169
I thought spideyfaggy was a late millenial.

No spiderfag bullying. He's our mascot and a fren.

>>527932354
he deserves it and more

My dad keeps playing old weird RTS.
Help.

>>527931932
>you thought you were grooming him...
>...while he was grooming you

>>527932642
What's more he enjoys it.

>>527932689
Join the multiplayer lobby, son!

>>527932689
What kind of RTS

>>527932689
is he circumcised? this is important

>>527933496
>What kind of RTS
Earth 2150 currently.

>>527933325
I'm terrible at RTS and he can do 200APM or something like that. We tried with Age of Empires but he always has to carry me and we ended up bored.

>>527934452
I wish I played video games with my dad

instead all I do is disappoint him

>>527936779
Nah I'm a NEET and in my 30s. I'm plenty of disappointment too.