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>Previous>>527434024>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/
>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
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>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview
>MAJOR NEWSMay 20 Heart of Democracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmXtgHs2ODg
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA
>LATEST PATCHESMay 13 1.003.000 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
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>>527498915 (OP)game would be better if the Libpen dealt 45 damaga again
>meanwhile, in the future
>>527498925Just think it needs a second longer stun. Stagger from shit like the libconc honestly out classes it. (And feels a lot beefier.)
Or maybe just needs some more magic gun juice to feel a little better.
Something about it just doesn't tickle me right like the other guns. Maybe it could just use more stagger.
>>527498925Pacifier is bugged to deal 2x as much stun when playing as a group opposed to the intended amount when playing solo. Recently maxed it and it's lack of stagger force makes it horrible at the job it's supposed to do, pummeler or lib concussive shit all over it.
>>527499019For me it's gonna be shit like fletchette rounds, and rikochett.
Just wanna get a shotgun n slap out some beefy molton lead that rips right through enemies.
>>527498703Absolutely, before the new arc dog I was running gas dog on predators quite a bit. Seeing predators beat the shit out of each other while trying to chase me is really satisfying.
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Justice is best served cold (and soon).
Whats the verdict on the police brutality warbond?
>>527499218Shit primary, needs a drum mag
Decent GL, bugged to deal near 2x damage when playing in a group though
Fantastic backpack
niche grenade
7/10 overall
>>527498541So you want the Crescent Overseer's weapon but Helldiverified
You pretty much just described the fuel rod cannon
>>527499218Second best release warbond after the cowboy pack.
The primary is ok, and the pistol is serviceable. But for me I'd say the rest of the pack is perfect.
New grenade launcher feels on par with the autocannon.
>>527499120I'm aware. Still a cool gun. It'll be patched and a staple gun for a long time to come, at least on anything non bug. The guns you named have crippled effective range thanks to light pen and the SMG meme category that's really just ARs with more falloff.
>>527499384why do you have a stick
>>527499396I have never played a halo game, so I don't know what the fuel rod cannon is.
>>527499396Why aren't there any rapeable female overseers on the frontlines? These so-called illuminate are not nearly as enlightened as they think.
>>527499384Man, I think the best thing they did for this game was make it so all the support weapons are innefficient at killing heavies compared to rockets. But you can do it. And getting all your teammates to shoot a bile titans works great, and feels stupidly cathartic.
(I think that's what illuminate is missing for me.)
Sick webm
multiple terrible games in a row where shitters desperate to level up weapons show up in D10s, and can't handle basic chaff troops.
10+ reinforcements lost in the first three or four minutes.
This fucking sucks
>>527499548Point and laugh at the zoomer
>>527499384That fucker literally dropped in!
When did bugs get drop ships!?
>>527499670Predator Strain Pouncer Titan.
>>527499601I'm a 30 year old boomer. I never played a cawadooty game either. I was too busy playing BF2142 in high school and assorted sovlful source mods in college.
>>527499218Pacifier is great other than the damage rating, but it'll be fine after a modest buff to it, don't listen to the retards that want to slap drum mags on everything.
The new armors look great, the new perk is absolutely amazing and meta if you go into lobbies without vitality booster.
The GL is a bit weird, a lot of reload and aoe damage is merely decent, but those grenades rip apart shit on impact it's pretty insane.
I like the skins holy shit they look fantastic, the logo too.
I wouldn't waste my time with the booster or the grenades on anything but defense missions. The booster is firepods with ragdoll+stun instead of burning, the grenades don't stun heavies which they should.
Overall a 7/10. Far from perfect but worth your 1k goy slips.
>>527499709Ah, so you only played bad games.
Why does stagger just feel more satisfying than stun?
like punisher, lib conc, auto cannon, bushwacka (with all barrels).
When are we getting a support shotty.
Hell when are we getting that double barrel.
>>527499549They've all already "Embraced Democracy" if you get my meaning
Why do you think all those illumicels are so mad at us?
>>527499702Oh please, watching people howl and gnash their teeth at regular predator strains, this would have them threatening to quit.
>>527499218It's shit
the armor it the only decent thing in there
>>527499702Predator strain impaler: An impaler, but he's invisible.
>>527499818Stagger is instant and easy to spread among multiple targets while pushing them back
Stun requires build up and chews through ammo while holding them in place, if you try to stun 2 p stalkers at once, by the time you stun the second stalker the first one will already have recovered and is back in your face.
>>527499761>The booster is firepods with ragdoll+stun instead of burning, the grenades don't stun heavies which they should.Booster is solid if you stack greens and use mines. I stagger my greens on bug drops and basically have an orbital EMS bombardment. Then it kersplodes with all the mines setting off.
It's niche, but it's a fun niche booster.
Urchin stuns lesser heavies. It also stuns in an AOE. It's gonna be glued onto me for a while. I totally get people not liking it, but the versatility of stunning chaff and locking down heavies is almost always worth more to me than thermite or napalm grenades alone. I just think it's fun getting an urchin around a corner and watching the pile up of enemies. Just to finish em all off with the torcher.
I just really like shit that rewards me for planning and enables me to shoot my gun more.
>>527499840We cucked them so hard they're now reverting into their edgy ninja phase. Sad!!
>>527499709BF, CS players = strong diving instinct, grizzled sandbox veteran, sprints through hazards and solves maps
cawwadooty crowd = really good at pressing M1 and jerking it to kills after
they can synergize well but one crowd won't ever grow as aware of the dichotomy as the other
>>527499596Sorry to hear that dude.
Hope your games get better, and you find some good buddies to play with.
>>527499384being the one in the middle was cinematic as fuck, i wish i could drop a clip
>>527499218Whole kit is good, one of the bettee warbonds
>>527500030I like the idea of an invisible Predator Charger because it's funnier. Predator Impalers could be super-aggresive and stab you with their tentacles directly instead of digging them into the ground, making the forehead weakspot that much harder to attack.
>>527500037I just think there's something better about the stagger animation and sound. Like stunning a charger you hear it grunt and flinch, and each time you stagger it it slows down a little bit more before stopping.
Just feels good. Stun guns are flashy but don't got that beefy stagger feel.
>>527499218Everything good about the weapons is caused by unintentional bugs and are thus almost certainly going to be turned into the dogshit they always intended when their "fixed". And if they don't buff them when they do so, or make the bugs "features" like they did with the siege ready armor, then that's all we're going to be left with: Dogshit.
The Armor is okay I guess, even if the medium and light models should be switched.
>>527500293Yeah, hope you have a good night.
>>527499156I want stun rounds on more of my guns
>>527499218Literally dont need anything but the pacifier and shock gl to obliterate D10
>>527499702Redditors and /hdg/ would seethe for years if they did that.
>>527500227I feel like the predator strain is a lot about high alpha, and singling out players.
Think the predator impaler would probably just be a really aggressive tentacle thatd go after the player furthest from the group. Knock em down and knock em away from the rest of the team. N just keep doing that for people in the group.
>>527499384now with sound and the full glory
https://streamable.com/jldw2f
>>527500498Redditors and /hdg/ would seethe at literally anything happening
>>527499218the rifle is better against bots than any of the horde factions. medium looks like it should be a light armor because of how slim looking it was, it's still an ok warbond.
>>527499384Wow that's so epic! D10 is so intense!
>>527499590A single flamethrower can kill a by very quickly
D10 bots, because I'm tired of bugs
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D10 lobby decides.
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I think the new GL sorta nails how support weapons should feel. Rare, beefy. Long reloads. You have a time and a place for it, and your primary does the rest of the work for you.
Maybe not all support weapons should stick to this, but for me it feels satisfying having the right tool do its job at the right time. That and banking shots off walls so my team doesn't get zapped.
Oh and killing biletitans with side shots. Fuck man, I wanna use it more.
>>527500935I'll close my lobby and join yours.
E Z.
put it in the game
>faster than mechs, slower than the car
>the stratagem has a 300 sec cooldown
>drops two per call in
>minigun on one side, arm on the other to toss stratagems
The new AR feels like a pea shooter
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>>527500498Would be such a shame
>>527501249not surprising, considering it deals the least damage out of EVERY weapon
>>527501131let it carry arty crap and black boxes at the cost of the stratagem arm an i'm sold
>>527501131Stupid and op idea. You would become untouchable.
>>527501416they fly now...
>>527500568>HD1 musicbased
>flame bro is on a breach locking down a corridor
>Throw an urchin down Infront of him, shoot anything that gets behind him.
Man. This game is actually really cool when the team play comes in.
>>527501945worse gas grenade
>>527501301Not even remotely true
>>527501945Too bad team play is optional now.
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>>527498915 (OP)>new warbond >look inside>low dps dogshit and tk-tastic zappy zapp shitter magnetsITS SHIT. ITS SHIT. ITS SHIT.
ITS SHIT. ITS SHIT. ITS SHIT.
ITS SHIT. ITS SHIT. ITS SHIT.
>>527502028Gas grenades disperses enemies and makes em run towards you.
Urchin is like pissing on an electric fence. You can get stupid close to locked down enemies.
>>527502153to be exact its so impressively shit it even made the schizo sing it praise to farm (You)s.
>>527501131>helldiver strideractually surprising it hasn't made it in sooner
>two perlol no
>>527502407I think the funniest thing about the set is that the people that hate it just don't have friends. Because the weapons perform dramatically better due to the lobby glitch.
What's the fucking deal with the Urchin? Its AoE is hugging the enemy straight up, it has trouble sticking to whatever you're throwing it at, and mainly works on just one enemy.
What keeps me from using Stun Nades or Gas over the Urchin? Aside from not having the Warbonds for them.
>>527502753>it has trouble sticking to whatever you're throwing it atI knew this would happen. Same shit as with the Thermite.
>>527502541ive only ever used it in hdg lobbies and we always have multiple people using the bond. gl rng aside the ar was consistently rancid dogshit and going back to the adjudicator after it felt like a breath of fresh air.
not only do swiggers not understand how their game is played, they also think bullet damage dropoff actually matters during 90% of the average engagements.
>>527502508one for your homie
>>527502541>weapon that is outclassed by a regular GL is good, actuallyOk, retard.
>>527502834they still haven't even given us doubled up backpack stratagems like we had in game 1, and you think they're going to give us dual drop vehicles?
SEX WITH SE NAVY MEN WHEN
I think AC has it's own reload bug now, it will eat the clip you just inserted AND remaining ammo you had previously
>>527500568So this is the power of teamwork...
>>527502862But it's not. Thing does 600 damage with AP 7.
>>527497369ggz, more coming when i wake up kek
I think the eruptor got a stealth nerf last patch, it reacts WAY more to flinching and rapid fire. Out of like 5 shots before, if you were firing as rapidly as possible, maybe one or two would miss by angles of 10 degrees or so, now it's like 3 shots will miss, 2 guaranteed, and they miss by a much larger margin, hitting ground or missing very high and to the sides. Giving unflinching a try since that got buffed.
>>527502753heres how to improve it
>make it shock nearby targets with love-taps similar to a blitzer, but with like 10% of the initial damage from itthere done.
AH, wheres my job position as supreme QA playtester?
>>527503450It doesn't keep the same point when you aim. I noticed my shots were missing because normally aim would stay in one place but now it sways to the sides meaning every shot requires correction.
>>527503359the third duel was pure kino
>>527502034>Too bad team play is optional nowIt was always optional.
>>527501295>File deletedUmm... bros?
>join game
>steer hellpod down a Bile Titan hole
>spawn deep inside the hole with no way out
>>527503640if you land on the edge of it you can break it and also live to tell the tale perhaps
>>527502280>disperses enemies>>527501945>locking down a corridor??????
>>527503523Honestly just upping the radius a tiny bit or giving us 6 would be enough for me.
>>527503606Wouldn't worry about it anon
>>527503769Yeah that's how they differ. Urchins lock down shit that travels at you in a straight line. (Like 99% of the enemies).
Gas grenades disorients and disperses enemies.
>>527502923no, but they should
>>527503875you have never used gas dog and flamethrower combo
>>527503593Even less so now. It's should be a necessity on higher difficulties.
>>527504030Nigger I used that shit on release.
I don't even know what you're talking about at this point. Gas disperses enemies. That's just how it works???
>>527504160no, gas makes enemies moshpit themselves to death while they're also being burned to death by your fucking flamethrower
furthermore
>worst version of gas dog
>>527504159It really should.
People can just run off and solo shit no problem
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diff 10 bugz
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>>527501131Playing with D-Walker was so much fun, you could just drift around and shoot your way through enemies, and when you were on foot, it was fighting at your side.
game sux because i can solo shit
game sux because i cant solo shit
game sux because team-play is forced
game sux because team-play is optional
game sux.
>>527504159It was always optional.
>>527503310>600 damage with ap7>Shoot a group of devs with it>Takes at least 4 shots to start killing one of them in that group>Not playing solo either
>>527504784Might have its damage lowered each time it arcs. No clue honestly. Does shred bile titans though
So I'm curious about the de-escalator, been enjoying it a lot, but I've heard it's bugged so that it does more damage in a squad and less in solo. What I'm wondering is which one represents what it's actually supposed to perform like? Is it supposed to perform like it does in solo and the bug is playing in a squad makes it more powerful, or is it the opposite and in a squad is how it's supposed to perform and the bug is making it weaker in solo?
Like I said, enjoying it, worried that they might nerf it to being ass like how it apparently performs in solo.
>>52749921680 damage
20 round mag
heavy penetration
semi automatic
calling it
>>527504907My guess is they're sticking with team power because they balanced and tested the game in a 4 stack.
>>527504953>80 damage>heavy penetration>semi-automaticImagine your primary being objectively worse than a fucking secondary.
>>527504907Better in squad is old bug. Solo play is probably how it's suposed to be.
Aperently stun on hit weapons are also bugged in same way. Pummeled is absolutely beast thanks to that
If you don't like the game why are you playing it?
pic unrelated
>>527505079yes it's another gun two thirds of the playerbase will hate because it's not giga S++ meta balanced go figure
>>527504678game issue
skill issue
social issue(s)
swede issue
K9 sucks. Holy shit it's bad. It's only good for killing friendlies. Why not up the firerate and make it shoot like blizer?
>>527505332because sweden
enjoy your useless flame dawg next, reddit and youtube will love it
>>527505332>>527505384>pick flame/gas/electric weapon>refuse to pick flame/gas/electric resistant armor>HOLY SHIT ITS SO BAD!!! AAAAA ITS SO BAD IT ONLY KILLS ME AND MY FRIENDSMany such cases.
How am I meant to make the flamethrower + hover pack combo work? Half the time it sets me on fire and if a bile titan / charger spawns it just does cartwheels underneath me waiting for me to fall down and eat me.
>>527505518I don't even mind the friendly fire, it's just not doing a lot of dps. Inherited arc thrower's shittiness kinda.
>>527505563>How am I meant to make the flamethrower + hover pack combo work?you arent.
>>527505518Luckily gas weapons don't need 'em.
>>527505518>george droyd warbond that comes with arc dog doesnt come with arc armorgas and fire at least have those armors, except its still jewish if you buy the servants of freedumb and try to use the dickle without the fire retardation armor.
and what the fuck is a medic pistol doing in a gas-themed warbond anyway?
How do fix the defender? It feels pretty bad to use compared to the base liberator and it being one handed doesnt feel like it does enough to justify the downsides like increased sway, lower durable damage, and damage drop off.
>>527505518Issue isn't team kills. It's how badly it's performs. Firerate is shit. Accuracy is bad. Most of times it doesn't arc. Regular guard dog kills enemies way faster. Gas dog stops enemies faster and it's way better.
If it was blizer style and slightly faster. It would be good at keeping enemies from rushing you.
>>527505518>kills friendlies>ESL illeterate immediatly assumes it kills the poster>also your team should all switch to the arc armor solely because one nigger in the team decided to use one specific stratagem
>>527505606Arc thrower is more reliable. It's better to take arc thrower guard dog than k9.
>>527505754you will buy every warbond for the single viable item in it and you will be happy that each item only works when supported with an item from another bond.
>>527505754I don't question it, I'm just happy it's there because otherwise we'd be waiting years for a medic warbond with a syringe gun and nothing else of substance in it.
>>527504760Yes, and that's a problem.
>>527505915I kinda wish for team that was full arc armour and had full arc loadout. Just to see are they worth of anything.
Tesla tower is kinda neat against bugs.
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>>527505563>Hover when enemies get close>Shoot flamesAm I missing something?
>>527504159How come there is no systems in place that force team play other than bunkers.
All the objectives can be done solo.
There no enemies that force you to have friends near by.
There are no modifiers that force team play.
Only resupply and bunkers are team based
>>527506103Illuminate zombies boutta replace voteless.
>>527506012It is.
I just want to dispel with the notion that teamplay was ever required.
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>>527506103no more voteless on high diff squids!
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>>527506267it's fine you just need to kill the summoner before he summons infinite ghouls
>>527505563Leverage the actual range of the flamethrower. There's no damage bonus for shooting it up close, nor does it have THAT low range. Literally just shoot it from a further distance than you think you need to.
>d5 bug eradicate
>rando joins
>uses both mortars
>half the time I'm slowed, other half I'm getting teamkilled
>waves end, evac lands, and he goes around picking up COMMON samples
>just stare at him run about, like watching a wild animal sniff around piss
>he stops by the shuttle door and uses the rock paper scissors emote
>on reflex I blow his brains out with my talon, hop onto the evac and kick him before the mission is over
I am filled with regret and shame, but it was really funny
>>527506459>d5>surprised teammates are idiots
>>527506504he was like 30 levels higher than I am, so I presumed, yeah
Blue gold paint jobs > de-escalator > cool armors > pacifier >>>>> TK doggo > shit > power gap > multiple tier gaps > everything else > urchin
>>527506168Because a multiplayer game that makes it mandatory to have 1 more retard in your squad to do anything worthwhile, is likely gonna die out or have a tiny community that plays it.
Some people just want to play solo because of autism or to 'prove themself' AKA half of you niggers screaming about "ok now do it solo"
Some people dont have a group to play with.
Other times, you go into a public lobby, and now imagine having to tardwrangle a bunch of idiots just to get 1 mission done, because little Timmy knows only 2 things - how to shoot the eruptor, and 500kg bomb.
Now imagine if support weapons REQUIRED you to have a diver be glued to your ass, just to reload it. You're essentially determining the effectiveness of one weapon purely off the competence of whatever retard has the backpack, or the weapon.
>y-yeah but i'd make it work! /hdg/ would make it work while reddit would cry!!!And what percentage of the playerbase does /hdg/ make up in total for HD2?
Just because 30 retards are capable of cleaning entire operations with joke loadouts, doesn't mean that 100k other people are, and any game dev that wants to make money will try to make it appeal to as many people as possible.
>died inside the extraction shuttle
Fucking what?
>>527506680You're not invincible till it takes off
>>527503606it was just a red bile titan
Here's your new Automaton unit bro
>>527506579So essentially the product is watered down in the pursuit of money. A tale as old as time. Buts its annoying because even if they designated that sort of cooperation to an optional mode then people would still complain of it's difficulty. I really hate how casuals fuck over games all the time with their stupidity. The valve dev logs are a perfect example of this.
You know what happens to unspent airburst ammunition, don't you?
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>>527506937Peak, actually
>>527506459damn you're a faggot
>D5 rando needs common samplesoutrageous!!!
>>527505785Unless arrowhead adds modifiers to run speed/stamina on weapon weight it won't really shine compared to something else. With the ballistic shield it can be fun for low difficulty bots (put in on semi and tap heads while nearly invincible) but all the rocket striders and rocket devs ruin that strategy, in which case xbow+shield is better (although you're still countered by explosions and there's a lot of that on d10). For bugs it really needs supply pack, but so many other primaries paired with supply pack are great anyway.
>you're playing as a leandiver
>horny dude follows you around in FRV beeping at you to get in
What do you do? The dude is me btw
>>527506994what's your nickname I want to know so I can collar you and drag you around on a leash
>>527507192>you're playing as a leandivergo back to ship and wonder why the fuck im a troondiver and not a bronydiver. joel must be behind this
>>527506937Remember when Miyazaki was good?
>the schizo didnt get enough (You)s by fellating the slopbond and had to resort to faggotposting again
this all Your fault anon.
>>527507192Pull out my ultimatum and obliterate the FRV with the faggot inside it
>>527506987go play GTFO if you want forced teamplay
>>527506987NTA but even a little things like driving around in FRV or asking someone to reload you or be the person reloading really makes it feel like a co-op game. I would argue the game is only as co-op as you make it to be and this is fine. HD1 suffered from one big issue which was forced single perspective for entire team, it was top down shooter but the screen area was small which was infuriating. Being free from that is nice.
What HD2 needs is more variety in objectives and return of the resource train delivery. Entire team would have to take care of the train with the sheer amount of enemies HD2 throws on you.
I'm voting to send the DSS to the bot front
>>527507192I get in the car of course!
>>527507669I stopped interacting with the dss a long time ago
>>527506459You need a metric fuckton of common samples to upgrade the destroyer and you usually need them specifically because
>"people" like (You) ignore them for whatever reason>the other two sample types usually outpace the commons and hit the hard cap faster than you can collect enough commons for the next upgradeWhy do you find it so outrageous, unthinkable even that people seek them out? Or does you having a fully upgraded destroyer mean no one else in the whole wide worlds needs to "waste time" collecting them?
>can't take a screenshot while doing literally anything
Frustrating.
Is there any way to make a input count for "more" than others?
I want to be able to take screenshots while sprinting for instance.
>>527507989I don't have a fully upgraded destroyer, all the upgrades are too miniscule to really matter, I got 2 or 3 from each category and have no plans on getting anything more.
>>527507989nta, but I dont bother picking up samples because nobody asks me to. if you're picking up samples, thats fine, whatever. I just wanna shoot things.
yes, i refuse to pick up samples until im asked to do so, because i wanna force retards to communicate. dont expect everyone to do everything for you. maybe if you ask "hey guys you mind helping me with collecting samples?", that'd be a LOT better than "are you guys retarded why are you running past samples"
SURPRISINGLY, if you ask other people nicely, they're more likely to help you out.
>>527508171>10% reload speed buff to all support weapons (which take notoriously long to reload making that 10% actually tangible) is nothing>380 mm orbital barrage becoming usable is nothing>10% orbital AoE is nothing>25% strategem fire buff is nothing>mortar sentries actually becoming usable is nothingThanks for confirming you're a retarded chimp. That guy did nothing wrong.
>>527508246picking up samples is a core game mechanic and you shouldn't have to be asked to do it.
>>527508338you forgot instant support weapon launching which makes EAT and Commando far far better
>>527508389Then they shouldn't be capped so I get literally nothing for bothering to do it.
>>527508535throw them at DSS
>>527508338>I only use the EAT or Arc thrower>don't use it, wont use it>Don't use them>don't use fire>I shot the guy this entire reply chain is about because he brought mortars
>>527507669DSS on the bot front is so much better anyway
>eagle strikes aren't aiming at enemies 5 feet away from you>380 for everybody feels like it's at least somewhat useful for just chucking on fortresses, more usecases than on bugs or squids
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new squiggers when
>>527508585>the core game mechanic ends up being used for a resource sink because theres no better use for iti hope the DSS gets blown to shit sooner than later.
>>527508585As if I'm going to dump common samples on the DSS for the pleasure of having eagle storm vaporize me multiple times per mission despite there being no enemies around
>plays on d5
>Team kills randoms who are trying to collect samples
>Too stupid to see the immense benefit in level 4 and 5 modules
>Doesn't even utilize half the game's stratagems
This has got to be a troll or an absolute simpleton.
>>527508695>core game mechanic ends up being used for core game mechanicwtf???
>>527508585I haven't donated or voted for DSS even once. I had to be told that the menu exists. It's worthless.
>>527499180Definitely gonna happen. Super Earth definitely reverse engineered illuminate shit to get Scorcher and Purifier.
>>527508389>core game mechanicpfft barely. their use end game is inconsequential and the cap is so low that they have 0 impact on the game for anyone maxed out. when an incentive for resource collection becomes non-inherent then it's just forced bs
>Shitters are too lazy to pick up samples
>Shitters are too jewish to donate to DSS
>DSS liberation/defense bonuses get activated too late to matter
>MOs get lost
>"WTF I can't believe Joel would do this to me"
>527509156
>implying I care about the MO after the shit show it's all been
>he cares about the MO
>joel is actively beta testing city invasion mechanics, reworking them on a day to day basis, and he thinks any thing we do matters while he does
lol
you donate shit to the DSS for the orbital blockade, theyre gonna throw it on anything but the planet that the invasion is coming from
you donate shit to help the defense, theyre gonna send it to a planet that needs liberation
you donate shit to help the liberation, theyre gonna send it to a planet that needs to be defended
ah yes the lovely lovely illusion of choice - collect samples to waste them on fucking nothing, or dont collect samples because you're full; except shitters will now cry to you about it.
>>527508691This looks like we will get atleast 2 IFV
>>527509156How many people do you think actually open DSS page?
>>527507989my experience is that it's easier to get rares because they fucking scream at you anytime you walk past them and you only need like 2 times cap of super samples and they spawn all together in a very simple to find point of interest
>>527509156you misunderstand, I don't care
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D10, Robots.
>>527509464No, the current (for like a year now) IFV has had it's turret removed. Nothing has changed otherwise. I don't know why it was done but that turret was the last piece that wasn't completed on the IFV.
Now you can argue we'll get APC without the turret and IFV with it, but it would be the laziest shit ever since the model is the same and the guy who would otherwise operate the turret does nothing.
if I had the option to be a dissident and actively hamper MO progress I'd do it without hesitation
>>527509440The orbital blockade is useless because it doesn't stop an ongoing attack. If you put the blockade on a planet, Joel can just start an invasion on another planet when it's the most convenient for it. Really it's just only good for a free 380 barrage.
>>527509819Vera libertas comrade!
>>527509667>full in 2 mins>while other lobs never even get full in 10 minutes
>>527509819You literally can just by playing non-MO planets, kek
Such a shitty system
>>527509156>DSS liberation/defense bonuses get activated too late to matterthese might as well be on a timer for as much it seems my samples are doing
I wish it was numbers instead of percentage and I wish I could dump more than fucking 75 common samples per week
>>527510021And you still think Discord trannies are a schizo theory.
>>527509789we talk about sweden so i expect them to do the most lazy shit so giving us two would be normal for them. But i also checked the wiki for the IVFs form HD1 and both of them had turrets so giving us now one without one is kinda weird
>>527510021Maybe stop hosting bugs or squids?
>Try to see how my Punisher would look with half-choke and Iron Sights.
>Switch to pattern tab to enjoy the cool new gun
>Crash
>>527510549This has gotten me twice today. I just wanted to pimp out the Reprimand..
Just got the AT Emplacement, do I work on Experimental Infusion or the Crisper now? Leaning towards the former as it'll be useful 100% of matches rather than only with a fire build.
>>527510154Here is your one guaranteed reply for this mass reply. Don't spend it all in one place.
>>527510867>do I want a booster that makes me noided, make me sprint faster and take less damageor
>cigar lighter, some retard will try to shill you that its actually good and youre using it wrongExperimental Infusion
>>527510867>rather than only with a fire build.retarded statement
the truth is that it's just a niche tool for your sidearm slot, it's like saying the bushwacker only works on a shotgun build
>>527510549Bruh, the duck bill choke work best on the Punisher anyway
>>527511103It doesn't need inflammable either since it's a pistol so you don't need to dive for distance.
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Super Jihad lobby, don't forgot your Integrated Explosive armor!
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>>527510867meth stims hands down. paired with supply pack and you can laugh off virtually anything except insta-kills the entire mission. With those two you can run in and clear mega nests solo with no difficulty
>>527511621*forget
2/4 btw
>>527511101Crispr is based though.
>>527499396Their thighs are so thick. I want to remove his crotchplate and expose his squid cock then just place my hands on his juicy legs as it rests on my face.
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D10 whatev
>>527511621back to 3/4, anon crashed ;w;
>>527511982Because it just is? Its a hand held flamethrower. What else needs to be said?
I am so fucking tired of people loitering outside the dropship.
>>527513239you go in first then
there should be a delay between pressing M1 and firing that depends on weapon's trigger pull.
>>527499218good amount of stuff
primary is what i expect of a stun weapon, decent on stalker strain and pointless but serviceable on anything else
GL is great but bugged apparently, i hope they keep it on this level
backpack is a meme, we're like a week away from it being an auto kick
grenade is ass
armor perk is serviceable and fashion is good
7/10
>>527513136I dont think people realise the Torcher and Crisper are both identical to the strat flamer except for ammo, 130/100/30 respectively
>>527509156anything but free HSO actively makes my life worse
>>527509156>eagle storm makes the planet its used on unplayable now with a TK-fetish rivaling the original orbital barrage>orbital blockade only works if the DSS is deployed before the attack starts, and we have no reliable way of predicting when or from where attacks will come>free HSO and 380mm are nice thoughHonestly the DSS is a big boring nothingburger at best, an active liability at worst
I'm not gonna go out of my way to pick up samples just to flush them down the DSS toilet
>>527514528>they don't know
They you could probably make egoistfags pick samples by making them give you crumbs of XP. I expect this to happen sooner or later
>>527500030Predator Impaler
>quite a bit smaller, between the size of a Hive Guard and a Charger>can only make one smaller tentacle, but uses them significantly faster>also does the elite Bile Spewer mortar attack randomly for some reason>also moves faster than a Hunter>spawns as often as Pouncers
>>527515961I hate how that literally looks like a fucking valorant or apex legends skin
>>527515961nice blue stripe bitch
if you need samples you're a retard for diving d10
not only will extracting samples be considerably more work, you'll also meet lobbies full of people that haven't needed samples for anything in nearly a year
>>527500030>An impaler, but he's invisible.
>it's another "fucking morons just flagrantly kill civilians and SEAF soldiers with stratagems, causing us to lose out on requisition slips to upgrade our weapons" episode
I hate these fucking people.
>>527516418>being a city slickeryou have no-one but yourself to blame
Breaker is so much better than any AR on bugs. Even spray and pray is better than ARs.
>>527516469>Even spray and prayNo it isn't.
>>527516418>lose out on requisition slipsOh no, the resource you'll have a trillion billion of if you play any real difficulty?
>>527514112While true, I've had significantly more consistent kills with the Crisper, which makes me wonder if there's something else going on with it.
>>527516469Adjudicator does well if you have other items to magdump with
>>527516665Knowing the swiggers its because the gun is so short the physical flame stream is longer and ends up dealing more damage or some random shit like that
>>527515961it is a nice looking gun and I like your config but venus is hideous
I'll keep the theme by making it arctic or urban
>>527516617Breaker S&P with full choke, vertical grip, and short mag is quite nice desu. It honestly just needs the RPM to get cranked up a bit more, and it'd be perfect.
>>527507647>HD1 suffered from one big issue which was forced single perspective for entire teamyou wouldn't believe it but there are schizos ITT that would love the squad to be tethered within a 100m radius of the host
>>527511101>>527511982>>527514112What's wrong with a support weapon in your pocket?
I was doing a random loadout challenge and the Crisper came in clutch whenever I randomly rolled it.
Each mag is a dead hulk(given some kiting).
d10, bots
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And as for you Stalker-chan? Breeding time.
>>527517075Nothing wrong with it at all. Metafags just think that you're griefing if you don't bring the Senator or Ultimatum in every loadout.
>>527511214its' damage is dogshit enough as it is so i don't see how making fewer pellets hit the same target would be helpful in any way
>>527517075dont like the flamethrower
simple as.
not a weapon for me, so i dont use it. if it clicks for you, more power to you.
>>527517384>dont like the flamethrowerFair enough
Some people want burst damage that hits all at once like a RR
I like holding down the trigger strafing while internally screaming "Die Motherfucker Die"
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What's the single best stratagem in the game bar none, and why it's this guy?
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>>527511621ggs terrorist bros, mashallah
I'm assuming there's no work around for the render distance of the super credit arrows mod? I remember that it used to work from basically any distance away until arrowhead fucked it
>>527500568so why did they ditch the hd1 music guy to hire the nigger again?
>>527499156flechette rounds will have awful stagger, as seen in the halt flechette shots.
>>527517875Open the file "user_settings.config" in your "AppData\Roaming\Arrowhead\Helldivers2".
Line 45 - "object_lod_quality". Increasing this value increases the LOD quality and render distance.
>>527517956Does that work? Felt like snake oil to me the last time I did it, maybe I forgot to set it to read only or something
>>527517746saar, thats not the orbital precision strike, saar.
yuo are bitch bloody bastard bitch, saar
>>527517875They still do, but Arrowhead actually fixed their occlusion culling and stuff that's behind other stuff has it's LOD significantly reduced, so if the game decides there is something between you and the SC the arrows will disappear.
I doubt they'll change that, even if they introduced the occasional bug of enemies being really low quality very close to you with it. Maybe something could be done about the mod itself but I doubt anyone gives a shit enough to change the lower detail models for SC arrows or if it can even be done.
>>527517530Man when the fuck are we gonna get the ability to call in rideable domesticated bugs
While I am a coomer and would like bug woman for breeding too, I also want to be a space cowboy
>>527518021It's actually lod_selection_multiplier. Change it from 1.5 to 10.5 and it'll work like a charm.
>try to be fire/gas guy
>enemies always just power through it and whack you
>enemies ragdoll at you and set you on fire
fire simply appears at your feet and sets you on fire
the fire resist armor should honestly just be 100%
It'd be cool if you could call in a reprogrammed Hulk or something
I absolutely love how the Reprimand feel, it's like shooting a Deagle in full auto. Big bullets makes my monkey brain happy
>>527518783For me, it's the hiveguard.
>does its cute little tail-wigglesugoi!
>you get four (4) urchin grenades
what's the fucking point
>>527517530This does nothing for me.
>>527517530This does everything for me.
>>527518946I've just used it in semi and it works nice, like a DMR for close-range
>>527516839Hilarious how the camo not affecting the blue lines or magazine makes Arctic actually looks really nice on the Pacifier rather than a blinding brick of white
>>527515961whats the point of compensator and angled grip
dont they just negate each other?
>>527520415he dares to stand out (is retarded)
Why is every nigga I see using the jump pack
>needing attachments
lower the difficulty
Am I going to have to run the ultimatum permanently now as a bugged terminal fixer or is arrowhead going to fix this fucking game?
>rhetorical question
But really why are objective terminals STILL bugging and cucking mission exp??
>>527521284>why would anybody want mobility?who knows
>>527519282For me, it's the commander.
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I really like how the new armor looks.
Coupled with the parade beret helmet, it feels like I'm some kind of helldiver beat cop.
Passive is decent too.
>>527521284I think people are slowly waking up to the fact that dogs are a boring crutch, backpack support weapons are mostly pointless and having the ability to simply jump increases your mobility tenfold.
>>527518909You should be able to call in the training robot from the first game that's been in the files for awhile
>>527521284Good for running away
Good for finding a better firing angle
Good for escaping accidental dropped orbitals/airstrikes
Good for escaping friendly orbitals/airstrikes
Good for jumping over walls of outposts/bases
Good for juking entire hordes of enemies with minimal risk
Good for just moving faster around the map
It is arguably a greater survivability boost than the diaper while also having great utility.
>>527522218don't forget the kineaux feeling of joomping down a huge hill
>>527521284Ballistic Shield on every front for me
hdg is playing divegrass tonight
https://files.catbox.moe/eyr2iw.mp4
>>527522590I love killing shit mid-jump. If I was Chinese and knew how to hack I'd hack the game to give myself instant jump pack restore.
>>527522973But where will you keep your rocket-pack?
>>527523158Very brave of the team to show their faces here again after the last time.
>>527523447very brave of you to post here while not owning the game
>>527523158that team is as good at winning games as we are at winning MOs
>>527501945I've recently been using the HE airburst gun strategem and holy moly the amount of people I've saved once I learned how to not teamkill is crazy.
>>527523447last match was good telly
>>527523158I'm rooting for /bag/ in all honesty
>>527523681persona gen will humble them
>>527523358EAT is all I ever need
>>527522973does the shield protect your back against melee attacks while holstered?
I feel invincible in the new judge dredd armor
>>527524320starts in 1 hr 40 min
https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
hdg is the last team to play in 6 hrs 30 min
>>527514112I find Crisper better than Torcher and the support flamer. Better Ergo, and since direct fire damage is reduced while burn damage is increased. It's far better to puff enemies and let them burn to death.
I barely used my AT on bugs front with Crisper. Bug Breach? Just puff the breach ground now and then, watch the bugs pops instantly the moment they climb up. Titans and Charger? Just puff their belly and kite for a bit, usually they die with just 1 clip.
I fucking love my zippo lighter.
>>527524141It's been a long time since I heard that sentence
>>527524460wooo go team helldivers™!
>>527524102It protects you against attacks from behind while holstered, yes. Great tactic is to use 2 handed weapons while you retreat, your shield will protect you from any rear attacks.
The only melee you should avoid blocking are Heavies and Super heavies melees. Stalkers, Berserkers etc actually deals jackshit dura damage to the shield.
>>527524460Post roster again.
>instant death if the grenade battlement gets destroyed while using it
Swigger programming or feature. Call it.
>>527524862i dont have it
>>527517209gg, swedish gods buried me for airburst tk
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bugs on Alta
>>527524460We play on homefield this time?
>>527523173I was incredibly dissapointed that the multiple backpack glitch doesn't work with jetpacks, so it's only really useful for diaper shields and dogs.
>>527525541we are wating (You)
>>527517746step aside for a true gentleman's top tier.
>puts AT into any loadout>built for those crossmap arch shots
>>527526770no, home is next week
What's the reason for the abundance of actual squid leaks? Are they doing a closed test, I just want them already I hate the illuminate front so fucking much since they're just bugs that shoot.
>/hdg/ host once again picks an op with complex stratagem plotting and orbital fluctuations
what is it with you fags and that shitty artificial difficulty modifier? I want my fucking eagle strafe NOW not later
>>527527394i don't look at the modifiers because it hardly matters
>>527527394No one looks at the modifiers shitter
The only thing I look for is colony kino
>>527527394I always aim for gunship patrols, the only mod that not makes the game more boring.
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>>527527394you're infantry
use your fucking guns
>>527527394deal with it noob
>>527527394Perhaps a D5 lobby is more your speed?
>>527527782same, colony and making sure no blitz or erad
>>527527394I always forget to look at the modifiers
not that it matters lmao
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775240981447072/76561198086479783 D10 Lobby decides
>>527527960>>527528050>>527528301>>527527449t. people who look at annoying modifiers and go 'why tf did we pick this planet?'
>>527528601it's called helldivers not nice planet divers
do people out there really pick easy planets? do you avoid colonies and convoys botside too?
>>527527394only modifier I check for is spores and by check for I mean print screen the map before dropping in because fuck spores.
>has heavy AP
>solid damage
>can easily deal with enemy reinforcements
>has AoE CC
Let me guess, you need more heavy-pen primaries?
>>527510154You made shitters so mad they refuse to reply lest they out themselves as impotent roody-poos.
>>527529431yes I want a heavy pen marksman rifle
>>527529531eruptor is right there
>>527529564that's a grenade launcher not a marksman rifle
>>527529671it accomplishes the same thing.
Wait, normal melee attacks staggers Pred Hunters and Stalkers?
>>527527394I literally just pick operations with flag/survey/bunkers/railcannons and without blitz, don't even look at modifiers or planets
botdivas will beg and beg for AP4 primaries just to make their already easy front even easier.
"Waiter, waiter, please! We already have two secondaries that make Hulks easy to kill, grenades that do that, and several stratagems! Where is the primary aperitif?"
>>527529729NTA but the projectile moves at a glacial pace. You are nearly guaranteed to miss any moving target at >50m away unless you lead your shots excellently on top of dealing with the doodoo ergo
>>527529431No, I need less.
>>527529729you have no idea how outrageously big the effective range of marksman rifles is
>>527529836aim better.
you want a PRECISION weapon
work for it retard
>>527529431i want something like the incinerator from fallout, tho i do like the scorcher
>>527530041I VILL NOT use the crispy until I can dye it in default helldiver colors.
>I want a marksmen rifle
>No I will not lead my shots
lol
lmao
>>527530041The Crisper is the better choice than the Torcher, mainly because I can use whatever primary I want to use, instead of cucking myself to just secondaries alone.
Plus, you can hipfire...get it, hipfire? You can hipfire the Crisper while walking away from the enemy at a reasonable pace.
>>527530145>>527530295Nigger
Are you serious
Do you think designated marksmen use rocket launchers or something? I mean, it might be the case in whatever brown country you come from, but civilized people tend to use proper weapons made for this role.
>>527530575aim better.
seems like you want a laser gun.
the scythe is right there.
you seem to not understand how firearms work in reality
>>527529431I know that the support flamethrower is arguably more realistic but Torcher looks like something out of Warhammer and I like it.
>no the single shot long range weapon system is not a marksmen rifle... just because ok?
lol
lmao
>>527530575The Railgun is in the game.
it EXACTLY matches the thing you want.
>>527524862I don't have the pic of the models, but here's our roster so far.
While we're at it, I'd like to request link rel as our away goal theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn9Uo8Mswa4
>>527530809Is the RR a marksman rifle?
>>527530914is the firing tube rifled?
>>527530831goal themes don't work like that.
you can assign a goal theme for specific players and for events like 2 goals and 3 goals in a row.
>>527530831I went and dug it out of the archives myself.
You useless bastards.
>>527531040>I love Swedenwill never not be funny
>>527530575why are you trying so hard to signal how much you know about army stuff?
>>527531040>I FUCKING HATE SWEDEN
>>527530575The dcs is right there
>>527531401no no no, you dont get it, it NEEDS to be heavy pen!
why? well...because...it just has to be, ok? that will totally not make the AMR seem like a side-grade to a primary!
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>>527530675what? No they look nothing alike!
i want an ap6 laser primary with infinite ammo and 600 damage
i also want it to shoot in a 360 degree angle because everyone knows that hunters are impossible to kill otherwise and they instantly kill you 100-0.
it should also have infinite range so you can kill the annoying leviathans before they can ragdoll you.
oh yeah and it should also give you ragdoll immunity.
>>527530673Automatic, low damage, low armor pen, laser weapon. Really. *that* is your suggestion for my desire for a heavy pen marksman/sniper primary.
>you seem to not understand how firearms work in reality?????
The eruptor gyrojet moves at fucking 180m/s
an IRL 7.62 round moves at ~800m/s
The fucking DCS bullet ingame moves at 900m/s
>>527530820Brother. That is a support weapon that uses a fucking reflex sight
>>527530973Support weapon but yes, it's the closest thing to what I want.
>>527531218what
I'm answering fuckers telling me that the ERUPTOR is a substitute for a marksman/sniper rifle
what "army stuff" knowledge am I flexing, exactly?
>>527531745you don't have to play this game.
tarkov is 2 blocks down, stupid nigger
>>527531745You'll get an ap4 martini henry analog
>>527531601it really is insane how much borderline plagerism there is in this game
Laser sniper rifle, but it's med pen and takes a split second to spool up like the sickle + scythe. Thoughts
>Play a pubbie lobby for the first time in a while
>D10 megacity bugs
>There's a level 30 there
>Two other level 100s solofagging around
>The level 30 is by far more cooperative despite his lower skill
>we complete a few objectives, open a bunch of bunkers for a total of ~50SC
>he dies a few times, but less than the high level solofags that are dying constantly trying to close a couple of medium nests
>we win and extract from the mission after maybe half an hour
Man. I didn't remember it being this bad.
>>527530772>>527530973AMR is strong but it's not a marksman rifle. It has bad ergo, kicks back like crazy, it might have insane fire rate but otherwise it's the gun you ideally wanna sit or lay down to fire, undisturbed, and dish out that massive 450 damage per round rapidly at a bot base or incoming drop. DMRs are more for clearing out nasty chaff like zerkers and devs before they see/shoot you, countersniping MG nests, and spotting big targets for the AT gods to launch into space. Just google designated marksman role.
>>527529531AMR has been in the game since launch.
>>527531995copout version: primary Talon with 165 damage medium pen and no mods besides scope options
>>527531995outclassed by the Accelerator Rifle in every possible way
>>527532020You don't realize how stupid the average pubbie is until you play with them after only playing with /hdg/ for a while
>>527532218i would settle for this
>>527532225except for its godawful ammo economy
>>527532050>clearing out nasty chaff like zerkers and devs before they see/shoot you, countersniping MG nests, and spotting big targets for the AT gods to launch into spaceexactly what the AMR excels at
sounds like your little twink tranny hands can't handle an actual sniper rifle and you need a plastic-frame 5.56 peashooter (but it has to be heavy pen), that has no recoil.
>>527532218That's just sounds like a dcs with infinite ammo
>piss soldier outfit is super cool
>gas resistance is almost useless
>>527532304>have been playing the game almost always with friends or /hdg/>mfw i play with randomsSome of them are actually top tier lads. But damn, most of them are jeet tier.
>>527532510Speak for yourself I live in the brap at all times
>>527531872actually would be incredibly kino
put a scope on it and I'm sold on it as a primary
>>527531995What damage are you thinking? I figured it's got to be more than the DCS if it has to spool up. Maybe Deadeye level? 300 or so? Might still feel a bit bad though, since you'll have to constantly spool up before every shot, unlike most other laser weapons where you only spool once and keep firing.
>>527532050>it's the gun you ideally wanna sit or lay down to fire, undisturbed, and dish out that massive 450 damage per round rapidly at a bot base or incoming drop.nigger you have a lever action that does 300 damage and can do exactly what you just described.
the dcs has less damage but can do the same fucking thing
the cs has AP2 but that doesnt fucking matter when you're using a MARKSMAN rifle that DEMANDS aiming, therefore you can clearly shoot enemy weakspots
amendment can also be used to magdump shit at closer ranges
all i hear is you being a little bitch that refuses to use the AMR because "erhm it doesnt fit my autistic headcanon on what a weapon is supposed to be"
>>527532406nah mate AMR is overkill for zerkers and devs, you absolutely do not need it, those are chaff enemies that yield to even the weakest primaries if fired well
expert AMR guy removes shitloads of hulks, tanks, turrets, semi-heavy to heavy targets
the horn should be louder and the car should make louder vrooms
>Railgun still doesn't have 4x/sniper scope
>Railgun still doesn't over penetrate
>>527532708>overkilla dead enemy is a dead enemy.
>>527532684Deadeye is strong enough as it is yeah but DCS would not be terribly overpowered if it got an ap4 ammo kit
Bug niggers are gonna be forced to dive on preds
>>527532693>no reinforcements>34 min leftMan even throwing myself at mines i could not manage that
>>527532916it's also a waste if you use a gun that does 300% of the damage you needed
>>527531995Like an extremely overclocked Scythe that can overheat quickly, but has very high DPS?
>>527532898It does, but only with insignificant shit like troopers i think.
>>527532693Desu intentionally wiping out your reinforces as soon as you land then doing the rest of the mission with only one life sounds like a fun challenge
if you ping a bile titan because you brought no AT it's a insta kick
>>527533197how is it a waste?
a dead enemy is a dead enemy.
>RR is a total waste to use on hulks.>RR is a total waste to use it on chargerswhat the fuck are you talking about you nigger?
>>527532351>i would settle for thissame, enough for dev oneshotting, enough damage to be a great ammo saver for your loadout
>>527533308So it doesn't,. The Warrant does, for some reason
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>>527533524The Warrant is all sorts of fucked. It goes through hulks.
>>527532621Around about the same damage as the Deadeye, yeah.
At first I thought it should only have to warm up for the initial shot and after that you could keep firing it with no delay but I think having a windup before every shot sounds cooler and more impactful than being able to spray it.
>>527533373nta, but their point refers to the AMR itself not the RR
zerkers and devs are easy enough to kill with your primary, that you wanna reserve your AMR ammo for other targets like hulks or fortress turrets.
which doesnt fucking matter because every AMtRanny uses resupply pack anyway, due to only getting 1 magazine back from ammo boxes.
>>527533360I'm simply pinging it to raise awareness. if you would like to take it out with your AT be my guest
>berserker steps up a sheer 6ft wall to slap you
>berserker walks through a rock formation to slap you
FACT: the equipment and strategems you can get at level one (1) are literally all you need to clear any given D10 mission
>>527533373Yeah RR is a victim of its own power. It is quite often dead weight in combat. The "lesser" AT stratagems can onetap everything smaller than a factory strider. RR is built to pop annihilator turrets from a distance. For killing enemies I really recommend something lighter with lower opportunity cost. Or the ABRL, it'll take out any heavy including titans and striders while also shredding everything around them.
>>527532621>Might still feel a bit bad though, since you'll have to constantly spool up before every shot, unlike most other laser weapons where you only spool once and keep firing.could just make it like the sickle where it has a 1.5 second delay before it starts cooling where in you can fire it again without needing the spool back up
I want this, or a quad ATV, in the game. It would be great to drive around in a more nimble vehicle.
>>527533714I feel like level 1s should get the EAT from the beginning
if they can add meme shit like the car, flag, they can add a forklift.
>>527533624nta, but you don't need resupply pack if you are not a solonigger, and have normal teammates that don't call in resupplies in the most abandoned corner of the map.
1 bullet per berserker is more than worth it.
>>527534098>talk about AMR>nigrah summonedlike pottery
>>527531948shut the FUCK up they look NOTHING alike. Games Worshop has lawyers everywhere shut your FUCKING mouth
>>527534065I don't think the man responsible for the forklift jokes even works there anymore.
>>527534265He does, i still talk to him.
>>527534098>AMR>JeetpackKill yourself.
the jeep's physics make no fucking sense, everything about it is built to make it less fun.
>>527534415what does the AMR have to do with it
jump pack is one of the best backpack stratagems, one of the few that aren't just training wheels for noobniggers too
>>527534383then he's a big baby for never coming back to the maincord after leaving in a huff
>>527534415that's the standard
>bots are the thinking man's faction>man, I miss old helldivers 2>the spear was cooler when you had to learn to cast voodoo to make it work>predditor strain isn't hard it's just annoying, no I won't dive therekit
>>527534415Mad because you're too shit to use either of those.
>>527534464In classic swigger fashion instead of tweaking it a bit until it felt right they just butchered it
>Siege Ready, a primary-focused passive, gives primaries, secondaries and some support weapons extra ammo
>Gunslinger, a sidearm-focused passive, doesn't give secondaries any extra ammo
Really makes you think
>>527534998its like 90% of the weight is on the front AND on the hood
>>527534756>>527534747>>527534531>jumping around being uselessThese niggers aren't as good as they think they are
>>527508246It was a D5 match. It's assumed that anyone playing there needs samples
>>527535072They fucked up by making Siege Ready also apply to secondaries so they don't want to give that to another armor now because they're swiggers.
>>527533764I would cum buckets if we ever saw a hoverbike make it in.
I like AMR and DMRs
buff both
>>527535072Secondaries are more powerful than primaries.
>>527535072siege ready was supposed to only give primaries ammo but they fucked it up and made it give every magazine weapon extra ammo by mistake
of course fixing it would have been seen as a nerf so they had to keep it or risk another review bomb hissyfit
>>527535072>>527535319make gunslinger have you dual wield secondaries
>>527535110>having mobility that lets you get to vantage points or objectives better is uselessLemme rephrase that
>diaper shield is useless because all it does is block the shots of other people and only save me and me alone from stepping on a landmine>ballistic shield is useless because all it does is protect my bussy instead of doing anything worthwhile>all dogs are useless because they get shot by the ATF and return to my backpack>backpack of peace is useless because its only useful if i actually walk up to the enemy (yikes!)>energy shield is useless>hover jetpack is useless because youre just flying in the air>resupply backpack is useless because niggers never share ammo with me (i used my ultimatum on a hulk after my 2 thermites failed to stick)
>>527535689They obviously have the technology to count "what" gun needs reloading, if you look at how the Punisher / Slugger / Cookout reloads.
But they'll never do that, because it doesn't fit their sense of 'tactical sim-lite' bullshit.
>>527535741Dogs get shot? I've never actually noticed. I know they return to my back to reload or cool down
>>527536208You can test it yourself. The dogs fly around you pretty fast, but if you're faster than it, you can shoot it. It'll start sparking and fly back to your backpack to repair.
>>527535901Katanas are for a separate super sentai themed warbond and will have synergy with a different armor passive that's also included in said warbond
>>527532020>they still toss 500 kgs at bile titans for some reason>still treat the liberator pen like it's the only primary in the game>still folding whenever more than 2 predator stalkers are on screen at once>still running off alone to stand at a primary objective when the sub objectives haven't been done yet>still struggling with basic game mechanics like carrying the SSD to the objective>still going snail speed on blitz missions>still unable to dodge chargersWhat else do you expect from bugtards? I'm convinced at this point that the 40 minute mission timers, buffs, and shit like the grenade pistol have completely fried bugnigger brains. Arrowhead needs to force them all to one planet with randomized loadouts and 20 minute missions to unfuck them but even then they're all probably too far gone. Post birth abortions might be the only solution.
>>527535689>double redeemersPeak
>>527536647W-what's wrong with tossing 500kgs at bile titans?
>>527536763they live half the time but it looks cool enough to be worth it desu
>>527536763anon believes that the way you are playing is the wrong way, because he has a higher number on his "life wasted on a swigger game" counter than you do.
do not trust anon, he only wants to feel something by acting like hes superior to you. do not let it get to you.
it is a form of cope he's using, because he cannot let go of a video game that feels like a chore to play, instead of feeling like a video game to enjoy.
>>527536763500kg is for clearing out large amount of mediums, not for heavies
>>527536094Complex reload mechanics are lostech.
>>527536880it's funny if it's a direct hit to the skull. Same with harversters
>>527534464weird i never have problems with it. have you considered learning how to drive?
So what do you guys bet on shams and tencent doing to super credits? I have a funny feeling they're going to gut how we acquire them completely
>>527537169Brother, it's 2185, not 3031
We HAVE the technology. We have NOT nuked ourselves yet.
We also do not have the best mech to ever exist - the Hunchback
>>527536763Nothing. He's just the kind of person that misses with 500kg even after they gave it an unnecessary radius buff.
>>527536763he's just trying to pass off that he play's the game when he clearly doesn't
>>527536763You're better off with EATs if you want to kill BTs, 500kg is better for structures
It doesn't matter, 500kg is cooler
>>527537280On the contrary, they'll make super credits a bit easier to obtain but the store will entirely be a gacha store with random chance of gear appearing and the good ones have insanely low drop chance
>>527499019>pen upgrade to let your bullets pen 1 tier higher armor>or your bullets create damaging aoe that damages everythinggee wizz I dunno doc.
>>527533764ARROWHEAD
GIVE ME A LAWMASTER AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
https://youtu.be/i_Pga70f_YQ?si=unudmfnQ1qS4Vdeo
>>527537280no more credits on the map
small allowance of credits for personal and major orders which is fine
>>527537280They'll release paid DLCs like the Super Citizen one
>>527537280I think the system works just fine and they should not touch it t. paypig
>>527537926Larping as white again?
>>527537981The fuck happened
>>527537674>listening to this>ripping through bots with my heavy pen front guns at 60mph while my mate shoots his autocannon from the sidecarkino appeal
>>527538310>alright they got the bile tit- AAACKi'm still getting used to corpses being weapons
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>want to use [gun]
>[gun] is bad
>sad
>>527538476>anon torches himself and 2 others>auto-reinforce>immediate ultimatum "misclick" misadventure
who the fuck brings the spray and pray to pred bugs?
>>527538650Those mega nest fights were great.
>>527500478>A predator stalker dies to one single headshot from the talon>wat>how is that possible when even the senator doesn't do that>maybe I'm just shitSenator does kill stalkers with one headshot. You just missed.
Talon is better at headshotting stalkers because it shoots faster, has less recoil, and has zero stagger so it won't make the stalker's head flinch around.
>>527538696Pic unrelated btw
>>527538965>the less fun gun is betterevery time
>>527538859>shadowplay didn't get my stim on K3shame
>>527538696 >want to use [gun]
>[gun] takes skill
>sad
ftfy
>>527539269>the less fun gun is betterThe senator still has greater armor pen, which is significant. Just not against stalker heads.
>>527537329Shit. I have to go to sleep like 2h before the match.
>>527539281is the space garand any good?
There was a thing called Gloom
>>527539550oh u rite, i honestly thought the mag jutting out the side was a bug on the battlepass page. that looks hideous
>>527539550>sideways magazine>ITS LE WORLD WAR 2 FUNNY GUN!!!!!!! XDD LOLE
d10, jungle bots.
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>>5275395951 (one) shudders to >imagine what repulsive larva gestates in the Coom as we speak.
>>527540026>filled instantly
>>527540214Is this deca? I haven't touched BA in almost a year.
>>527539736>still seethingkekaroo autismo
How is the force of law warbond? Debating between that, steeled veterans, urban legends, or truth enforcers
>>527540425yes. full mecha /m/ autism soon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwWVgGE5b0Q
What's your most controversial take on the game?
>>527541023The difficulty is fine
>>527541292a bold claim
If I could purchase medals I would
>helldivers are air raiders(call support weapons mechs and vehicles
>seaf are rangers
where are the fencers and wing divers
>>527540740>illuminate stamp on assbased
>>527541023You've unlocked anything worthwhile and seen everything the game has to offer within 40 hours
>>527541023Bugs owe me sex
>>527541023Max difficulty should be locked to max level
is it normal to have to clear 20+ bile titans to make it through one mega-nest?
>>527541718I would agree if the max difficulty was any different from D5
>>527541023predators are very easy, you just have to shoot your gun.
>>527541775No. If this happens, it means some retard triggered the titan bug hole and left without destroying it.
>>527541775it's normal if you don't destroy the big hole in the mega nest with orbitals/airstrikes/500s/ultimatums/hellpod/reinforce
it will keep shitting out titans faster than you can take them down
>>527541023Warbonds cost too much SC for the amount of 'content' they provide.
>>527541023Scythe > Diligence
>>527541791Yes, D11 should be pre-nerf EoF D9/D10
>>527541023they should stop making warbonds for a year and work on literally anything else.
>muh difficulty
The only thing that's required is to up the maximum amount of enemies allowed in a single mission.
But the engine can't handle it, so we're fuggered.
sorry for alr-f4'ing. gf aggro
>>527542003They should make warbonds focused purely on giving you more armor, more weapons, more stratagems (yeah right) or more cosmetics.
I'd rather pay 1000 SC for a warbond that gives me 6 more guns, even if they're mediocre, instead of "uhhh heres like one primary, a secondary, a grenade and some armor i guess lol"
>>527542338Illuminate will save the game if they're at least half as hard as they are in HD1
>>527533578This game is very kino sometimes
>>527541023anything that deals with hulks/charges in one hit are crutch weapons
>>527542539>and then we all died in a nuclear explosionYes.
>>527499019>ammo drops soonSick
>energy weapons even more limp in comparison I-infinite ammo am I right guys hahaha
>>527542810You're not getting ammo customization it's the basis for them shitting out guns for warbonds
>>527542338Lol no, enemies are gigacucked
>Hunters literally have to wait to jump at you>Chargers and BTs are one-shot>Stalkers don't death combo you anymore and announce themselves before they even attack>Impalers can't even ragdoll you>Bots have shit aim>No MG troopers/Heavy Devs head shooting you>Rocket Devastators barely ragdoll you anymore>Gunships may as well not exist>Hulks can be killed with anything>Bruiser Hulks don't use turret lasers>Scorcher Hulks don't deal damage>Rocket Striders can't kill and are weak af now>Barrager "tanks" die to primaries
>>527542457> They should make warbonds focused purely on giving you more armor, more weapons, more stratagems (yeah right) or more cosmetics.I misread this and thought you had my same idea of
>armor passives that intrinsically grant stratagem to your loadout>backpacks that enhance you (give you more armor, more weapons (emotional support weapons/guarddogslol
WW3 before Illuminate cultists btw
>>527541023The game was fine on release, you just needed to lower the difficulty if you didn't like the amount of heavies
How do the megacity percentages work? What happens if you don't liberate one?
Emancipator is more than powerful on bugs TBHDESUIMO
>>527543031Guess that makes sense even if it proves we live in the worst timeline.
>in another timeline, arrowhead releases the ammo wheel>rebalances the million redundant guns into more autistically satisfying data points
>>527541023They should bite the bullet and remove all weapon variants, and instead make them part of the customization system.
>>527543113are you retarded, bad at the game, or both
>>527543059>Rocket Devastators barely ragdoll you anymoreFalse. Their ragdolling is the exact same no matter what they have said.
>Rocket Striders can't kill and are weak af nowSomewhat wrong, they are still a 1-shot on direct hit even with heavy explosive resistance. However this will only happen once every 20 games
For Hunters, at least they have removed their internal jump cooldown for the predator variant.
>>527534415That's nirah the queen of /hdg/ shut your mouth
>>527543114>Justice and bastion tank patch dropped out of nowhere>its suddenly bright as fuck outside at 3am
Remember when Nirah posted this image?
>>527543495Bad at the game but what’s wrong with my idea? More content would be great. Didn’t mean to send you into a tism spiral
>>527543059Your forgot that all of the rocket enemies whose enemy design is dependent upon suppressing us with a continuous barrage of explosives now have like ~2 shots worth of explosives and then they just stand around staring at you with their limp dicks in their hands.
Several of the bot nerfs need to be reversed. Killing a fab from any angle should return to being the spear's silver lining. Gunships should be allowed to intentionally aim at us again. Enemies should have infinite ammo like god intended.
sperg out harder crazed troonman, we'll outlast you t. the guy that out-aims you (ik that's not much to go by but still)
>>527543609>tom_and_jerry_scream.mp3
>>527540050controversial to reddit and discordniggers
The Swedes are way too fucking slow and the quality of the content they do release has reached rock bottom. Despite this, and despite their record-breaking player numbers and how many copies of the game have been sold, this also applies to the Warbonds and super store items. Pay more for fewer items of lesser quality while limiting supply (new warbonds) to make the "deal" seem more attractive
I don't like it.
>>527543629>when Nirahwhere is the core temp stuff in the top corner then?
>>527543629dont think he would post that since his name is not on the image.
>>527543908Whoever's name is not on the image it's because they're on the discord
>>527539819back to 3/4 need (You)
>>527543629Once again, I remind all anons posting lobbies to remove the third number from your links.
>gameid/lobbyid/steamidRemove your steamid and anons can still join you while data scraping discord trannies seethe.
>>527541534this
you gain medals way, way faster than you gain SC to unlock the ability to actually use them
so after a short while your progression is throttled by the abysmally slow rate at which you get super credits unless you pay real money for them
>>527539437I dunno. I'm just leveling everything to level it and space Grand-14-FG42 was the next in line.
I like how snappy it feels. Reloading from empty takes for fucking ever but the tactical reload is ok. It's very accurate and comes with the x4 scope.
D10, lobby decides
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Hive lords will be the leviathan equivalent for bugs, the ground will shake and you'll have .5 seconds to jump pack out before you get swallowed
>>527543898Damn, I just started playing. Was hoping they had turned a corner and were more interested in honest improvement and returns on their game. Hope it isn’t a typical degrading product increasing price scenario that marketing always loves.
>>527543898I'm 200% mad because the game itself is beyond amazing. The core gameplay is one of the best i've ever had. There's lots of space to make it one of the best games EVER. And they cannot help themselves but shit out broken patches and dogshit mediocre content.
>>527503450>>527503564>I think the eruptor got a stealth nerf last patch, it reacts WAY more to flinching and rapid fireI've got a schizo theory that I haven't verified. Someone in one of these threads was claiming that swedecode introduced a bug in the code where your character suffers from worse shot dispersion and extra sway when you are out of stamina. Allegedly the swedes somehow managed to tie everyone's aim to the host's stamina. So if the host if flailing around in the middle of a bug breach like a young athlete dying suddenly from his fauci ouchie, then everyone else in the squad is having their aim fucked up by the stamina sway. This is felt most by weapons like the eruptor that are heavily penalized by missing your shots.
Anecdotally aiming down sights in first person behaves as normal. It's just obnoxious when you should be able to make some textbook simple shots in third person ADS.
>>527543114nobody will actually ally with israel because of their insane, neurotic (and baseless) shitflinging btw
it's all an act not that it matters because we're gonna have a ceasefire in a week after they trade some more shots like the middle eastern children they are
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almost at 110 medals, drip paint jobs or doggo?
>>527544079maybe if you stop giving a shit about that retarded tranny, he'd kill himself already
trannies demand attention, which they never got from their parents, so by acting like a huge faggot, thats their coping mechanism to get attention.
the less power you give to them, the less you give a shit about them, the more will you piss them off.
besides, what is that axewound supposed to do with your steamid? tell others not to join your lobby because youre one of the few people who actually host lobbies?
>>527544481dog so you can bring to pubs
>>527544481dog so you can bring to lobbies
>>527544337I don't think their intention is to fuck over HD2 just because of greed. It's more likely that the dev team for HD2 is significantly reduced in size because they're starting work on another project.
>>527544481Save for the dog. I’ve been enjoying larping with the hoverpack too much to take mine out for walks, but I love seeing them spark chit up
>>527544337>Damn, I just started playing. Was hoping they had turned a corner and were more interested in honest improvement and returns on their game.This is just a problem with sweden. Every single swedish game developer has this problem. Progress is glacial because they practically have 4-6 months of government mandated vacation time.
The entire fucking office will completely shut down in the summer while everyone goes on vacation at the same time. Then the office will completely shut down in the winter due to bad weather. They'll have some mid-season breaks during the spring and fall where they either lament the end of summer or celebrate the end of winter, and then after each break they need a week or two or three to get back into the swing of things and recover from their vacations.
>>527544289failed to join
>>527543114cultists tuesday trust the plan
>>527544710Ah good for them, what is it (tentatively)?
>>527544893Tuesday will start the months-long MO before the cultist drop
stop posting shota magnets
>>527541023most of the guns throughout the history of the game's balance states have been at least fine with only 2 or 3 being truly unusablely bad at any given time
keep posting shota magnets
>stand on top of gatling sentry as it's firing
>it periodically aims upward at nothing because it's trying to teamkill me but can't
sweden...
I'm creeping up on affording my second warbond, already have Democratic Detonation. What should I get next?
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>>527545130Trvth nvke. Even during the launch days when "everything was shit", most of the "shit" weapons would have been fine if they would have just increased the ammo capacity a bit. Too bad the swedes cared more about bacon flavored ammo pouches.
>>527545130I don't think people on release realized they were never expected to solo a bug breach or bot drop as your supposed to have 3 other guys backing you up, like every other horde shooter
did they fucking nerf the RR? I havent been able to oneshot impalers since the update it now take atleast 2 rockets to kill
I think that every single one of the objectives in bug megacities should be hardened to the point where hellbombs are needed to take them out. It is pants on head retarded that one guy with an autocannon can complete all of the mission objectives in ~3 minutes.
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>>527545785youre aiming too low
>>527545346>AC sentry firing a salvo down range>turns 180 degrees when done straight into my face, even if its just a wall behind meall the sentries hate you, remember that
>>527546010Tomboys aren't real
hdg i want to fug a bug. a THICC bug. and get it pregnant.
>>527541023The autistic ass lead dev who wants to force muh milsim shit is actively holding the game back fun should be the primary focus of everything added or taken away to/from the game also armour passive swapping should have been in the game months ago
this warbond/patch was so broken because they really wanted to release *something* to ride the wave of new/coming back players from SE invasion.
>>527545785Aim for the "hairline", not the exposed fleshy bits.
>>527546189Fortnite is right there
>>527546189>wants everything that's makes the game interesting and immersive removed so it's like all the other horde slopGo play deep rock
>>527546189If its autistic milsim shit shouldn't the guns have that +1 bullet in the chamber every other shooter does these days?
i wish there were more snow planets that werent just fucking vog sojoth
not the planet itself, but what the planet looks like
the only times its ever great is on a colony map, where its flat as fuck and you get actual sightlines, or the occasional hills
instead, WOOPS ITS ALL CANYONS
>>527545874>>527546376fucking hell how the fuck have Ive been doing it wrong for so long and yet kill it? thats fucked up
>>527546189Its probably why we lost the holograms and sci-fi tech in the first game. Its beyond fucking retarded to imply the entire federation just "forgot" how to use all of it in the past 100 years. Like how we downgraded from a literal fucking miracle gun known as the Rep-80 to the stupid jank as fuck pistol.
>>527546915>buttfront gets not 1, not 2, but three (3) snow planets>bugs gets zero (0)Fucking STUPID
>>527546870it does have that. AC, AMR, GL and pretty much every other typical kinetic weapon
>>527546834nigger I play without a hud half the time for fun but we really don't need shit like "well we can't add bullets to the mag since there isn't enough physical space inside of it on the 3d model"
>>527546915There is a snowy boreal forest map icon in files, might come out a some point
>>527546969you accidentally aimed higher
>cock sucking niggers from reddit are here defending the game again
grim
Friends! Help!
I'm trying to take a screenshot of my phatt ass, but holding down W+A/D means it won't register when I hit my screenshot key!
What do?
>>527547091am I supposed to believe that's a bad thing?
>>527547234shotgun in mouth, and the trigger will take a screenshot no problem
>>527547321unfuck yourself anon we both know its retarded
>>527547346Very rood my friend. I am trying to help us all here.
>>527547389No. I think it's based I can see the amount of shells go down inside the punisher as I shoot it
>>527546138>>527545346It's obnoxious. Turrets are really strong these days but people keep placing them wrong. I've been using turrets more in mega cities due to how all of the buildings fuck with Eagles and orbitals, and it's easier than ever to put turrets in safe locations. But pubbies keep calling them down directly on their own dicks like this is team fortress 2.
Then pubbies get pissed off when you destroy their sentry after it rips R4 in half and deletes 80% of your healthbar. If you can't find a good place to put a sentry, then at least throw it 50m away from the group.
>>527546189The autistic milsim paired with tone and messaging are what make it so great thoughbiet
>t shill for schrodingers missiles/ammo/crayon flavor packs, enjoyer of super-crank and “unlimited ammo” laser pointers
>>527547610>bullets in the MAG which you cannot even physically see>retard brings up the punisherI see, so you're actually just mentally handicapped
>>527547334Finding a big titty tomboy is one thing, but getting her as your girlfriend, is another.
>>527544943I don't think we know. Could be a helldivers spinoff, could be Helldivers 3, could be Magicka 3
I want a tactical Super Scavenger gf that can operate a railgun for immersion purposes.
>>527547675that turret placement is dogshit btw
all it takes is 2 stalkers and its dead
>>527546189Fun fact, the lead QA dev is an arma fag.
I agree with you, but I think they try to balance around fun and just claim it's for realism to explain the balance to plebs
>>527547675>place your turret in a completely unsupportable position so it can die to 3 errant bugs more easilyno anon, just stop running in front of the sentries
>>527547754Not seeing something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. also besides a recent bug you could see just how many rounds were left in your mags you discarded
>>527547804I thought they don't own the rights to Magicka any more or was I Swededed by misinformation?
>>527547675>>527547831Press C. They teach you this in the tutorial.
>>527547675Yeah but who kills a mortar sentry? Special layer in super-hell reserved just for them.
>>527547804Itd be easier for them to make helldivers 3 on a new engine then it would be to fix it on this shitty engine
>>527548213>perfect height for getting shot straight in the dome
>>527547675>>527546138>>527545346Also consider the city extraction points. They are one of the most trivial places to safely place sentries around. Simply put the sentries down in the streets or on the lower platforms while the helldivers occupy the upper landing pad. It's basically impossible for the sentries to friendly fire teammates when the helldivers are on the upper platform, and all of the sentries are down below. But then some chucklefuck will place a gatling on the upper platform where it will rip someone in half the moment that it feels like spinning 180
>>527548213>Go prone when bugs can leap on you at any second.Suuuuuuuurrrrre. ( -_-)b
>>527547675Turrets work best when placed behind bugs imo.
You can have em shoot into bug weak spots or force them to turn around so you can shoot their weak points. Same goes with bots.
>>527548290Imagine being this wrong
>>527548325You know the presence of a senry doesnt make you lose control of your character, right?
>>527548458>>527548473Ah I see now, we're doing the "say obviously retarded shit" again.
>>527548598Imagine getting filtered in the tutorial turret section. Try pressing C.
>>527548685Feel free to post a webm of you crouching in front of a firing gattling sentry.
>as thoughtless and boring as orbital napalm
>free kills for 2 minutes
>while teammates have to dance around your gem's line of fire the whole time they're up
>which all either instantly kill or force a player to immediately stim the second they're hit
>easymode (which is why the game gets boring as fuck when more than one player has sentries)
Turrets are obviously a noober 'gem. Unless you're playing with bad players and you need to metaslave to get by, you should avoid the crutch picks.
>>527547831>place turret in position you can cover it, all it needs is 180 degrees of vision if you’re in an intersection, give it less directions to worry about >make sure your own back is clear, or that if there’s somewhere behind you that’s vulnerable, the turret won’t have to sweep you to shoot thereTLDR side pocket them or set and forget them in an intersection behind you as you move on to soak aggro. Shrimple as that unless you want make a dissertation on each particular map portion.
>>527548473Nigga they tell you to go prone not crouch
>>527548806whats prone for $1000 please
>>527548921>it's the reading comprehension lacking retard againWhat is C for $100?
>>527548819Man, I just like using the rocket sentry on bots because it covers me and I don't need to be worried about getting shot in the back of the head
>>527548458You just need to put them where they're not going to flag people. Only the rocket and AC sentries need any level of babysitting since they shit their pants if anything gets into melee. MG and gatling sentries will fuck shit up unless it's a charger or above. Behind the team is the worst place. Behind the enemy can work if you can put it there, but you want it to be more like behind them at the 2 o'clock or 10 o'clock positions instead of directly behind them so you're not as likely to be in the crossfire when it engages the bugs.
Turrets are ultimately disposable, so it doesn't matter if a large chunk of bugs manages to overwhelm one that was tossed off. It still accomplished its mission and kept bugs off your back by drawing aggro away from you.
>>527506987There could be ways to make game more team focused without killing solo play.
Common is to buffs when more people are together.
But we don't have buff or positive gear other than stim pistol, supplyback and forcefield. There is no radio equipment. Everyone has radar and resupply. Game isn't trying to be team based. Other than throwing so many enemies at you.
>>527507647Game can rarely deliver enough enemies. Becouse engine/PS/servers can't handle it. Most of time issues arise only when everyone has meme loadout and fucks around too much.
Just today I wranglered level 18 in d8 who just didn't use sos beacon. He died 10 times. I died 0 times. Still I managed to push him through it becouse I actually had functional layout. But if there was just 20% more enemies. Then it would be diffrent situation. You would need actual people who can fight.
>>527537280No more supercredits on the map.
You gain a small amount of supercredits for completing operations, that scales with difficulty to prevent farming.
You get 10SC per operation at D10.
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>>527548806>"Go prone in front of the sentry">Crouches>Dies>"WHUUUAAAATT??? DOOD THE GAME IS GLITCHED MAN! MY GUY WOULDNT GO DOWN! ACK ACK ACK ACK
>>527549024>he doesnt know that you can hold buttons instead of just pressing them
>>527548819>Crutch picksThe only crutch is the supply pack, but it's also mandatory for heavy armor or support weapon spam.
I wish they'd just split the backpack into a stim pack or an ammo pack. Double the effectiveness of it too. Like full resupply (everything gets filled to max) and +50% carried ammo/grenades or Stims
But you only get one or the other.
>>527548871So you know how to avoid sentries but you refuse to do it so you can bitch?
Press C, nigga. Its the same key.
>>527541023there should be more recoil
>>527549196>so low IQ he can't keep up with a simple conversation between 2 opposing argumentsBut I know I know, it's easier to just do this uno-reverse bullshit than admit you were being a massive retard.
So enjoy soothing your ego with this absolutely retarded attempt. No one but (you) is falling for it.
>>527548819>doesn’t enjoy turret defense games>doesn’t want his turrets to live full lives where they spend all their ammo (or timeout, allah forbid it)
If the team needs to hit the deck to avoid being torn in half by your poorly placed sentry, then the sentry is fair game to be killed on sight.
>>527547804They can't make either of those
>>527547804Sony is breaking bungie in two. Other studio will make destiny 3. Other helldivers 3.
AH will make their orginal game
>>527549502If you frag my tesla I frag you simple as
>>527549380C is crouch faggotron.
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yuss bratty rifle complete
arrowhead puhlease give this fucker 20-30% more damage it is so fun to use
>>527545346>throw a 120mm HE Barrage>the very first shot aims directly for me, despite being outside of its rangesasuga, sweden-sama
>>527549418>so btfo'd he doesnt even stay on topic.Im sure youll pass the tutorial someday.
>>527549740>"please arrowhead make this thing stronger than every other ar"really nigga
>>527545346>clusterbombs going off in the distance (+75m)>still hit the deck because I know it's just a coinflip each time
>>527549823At least with barrages it's depends on where the ship is flying. You can get lot of very strange hits thanks to that
>>527549705So you know what prone is but you cant stop giving blowjobs to sentries?
Skill issue, my nigga.
>>527550002What a fag
t. Cluster bombs at my feet to clear everything around me enjoyer
>>527550002this is what shitters dont get. if you see a cluster go off - you dive. everything else is russian roulette.
>>527550002>play in random d8>megacity map>some 30level uses cluster bomb once>minus 300R
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>>527547675optimal turret placement is something i've thought about for a while. you're correct in that a turret to the side is better placement than right on your location assuming it can flag you, but something a lot of people don't consider enough is elevation. as long as the turret is above you, even just a little, it'll almost never hit you.
>>527549740Death is the best CC
>>527549971right now it has 50 damage, 20% would be 60 damage, 30% would make it par with the libpen which is not a super strong gun
>throw tesla tower on edge of bug breach
>pubbie throws eagle 500 on it
the sheer number of times ive watched my tesla tower that was entirely managing a bug breach get smoked by a friendly red only for the bug breach to then spiral out of hand is infuriating
>>527541023Weapon slottage shouldn't define how powerful a gun should be, just how efficient it is. If a player takes a support weapon that kills chaff, they should have options on their primaries and secondaries that kill heavies. Just again innefficiently.
Stim economy ruined the game. There's rarely a point where a player will consider banking a stim, and the game actively punishes you for holding onto stims with limb break and insta kills from 75% health. Stims effectively let you take risky plays. They shouldn't be the main source of healing in this game.
>>527550280That's just malicious swede-code though.
i swear you fags will make up any reason inside your head to explain why others shouldnt use a thing you dont like
>actually, bringing extra firepower is le bad because it could kill me if used wrong!!!
nigger that can be said about any stratagem in this game
They should have kept the traitor shit in, and made it easier to trigger.
>>527550094Oh no, I've had plenty of times where barrages aim the first shot quite a bit outside of its normal range (even when accounting for angle), just to hit players.
>walking barrages angling the first shot to hit a player 20 meters away>airburst barrage angling a single shrapnel outside of its firing cone to kill a player
>>527550352Just throw it toward enemies little to side. So if something comes from behind. It dosent kill you.
All you have to do then is make sure enemies aren't instantly hitting it when it lands.
>>527550492Yeah, but the most of the retards that play this game cant be trusted with some weapons.
For example, Airburst Rockets.
>>527550352sentries are actually pretty accurate at long ranges when they're not shooting helldivers, i love placing them at the top of a hill near an objective and giving them full view of the area
a single gatling sentry at the high rim of a heavy nest can cover you pretty well as you run around and close holes if there's no breach to spawn chargers
>>527550361I usually have two other guns to kill with, also Pacifier kills just fine on a well aimed burst.
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>>527550560>"Make the game unplayable on cities"
>>527541023Firebomb hellpod is a good strategem if used correctly.
>>527550646I consider myself a safe FRV Driver and a decent user of most weapons but those fucking Rockets are a meme for the friendly fire happy. Still fun with friends but when a random picks them up you know what's gonna happen.
>>527550576Walking barrage fires first shoots quite bit behind gem for some reason. Whole lot of friendly fire becouse of it.
>>527550201Is cluster sharpnell explosive damage or not? Is heavy fortified effective against it
>>527550373>put tesla tower on a chokepoint, far away from anyone else>pubbie beelines to me location, just to start shooting at my tesla tower>does nothing elseWhy.
>>527550853Pray tell, how do you use it "correctly"?
>>527550820Game is easy as fuck in cities with the choke points. Half the time I'm playing city maps I forget I even have strategems because everything dies.
>>527547675This is how I place mine, so...What do you think?
>>527550853For some reason. It lowers the dircet damage.
But stun+firebomb was quite funny vs bugs. Just drop all the turrets middle of enemies and it will be fine
>>527550907Probably some sloptuber giving directions to the hivemind and convinced the retards that tesla = bad and only used for tk'ing.
>>527551058>"We should randomly die because civies/SEAF decided to walk in front of my sentry"
>>527550367>which is not a super strong gunBut it is the strongest AR.
>>527550352Yeah, in general the factors that you can use to keep helldivers safe from sentries are:
>different Z-level>placing them to the sides rather than in line with the enemy>placing them far away from the team>placing them where hard cover blocks direct LOS between the helldivers and the turretBlocking LOS entirely has a drawback in that it makes the turret more vulnerable to being overwhelmed and destroyed since helldivers can't help keep the turret clear. But this is only really a concern for the rocket/AC sentries, and the helldivers themselves are free to relocate to a position where they can cover the turret if they wish. What's important is that the turret can't vaporize a teammate while their attention is on the enemy.
>>527550853its never good.
>>527551082nta, but ditto; if you can't set them on overlooks, turrets should be nearby but between you and enemies
>>527551058I just cruise around in exosuit. It's so easy with chokepoints.
>>527550902Eh, more like
>throw walking barrage>know the exact maximum distance that it can reach for the first row>ally walks past, a few meters in front of me (still within safe distance) >very first shot hits them DIRECTLY>the other two in that row stay within a normal and consistent range
>>527551082good placement
>>527550820Stop using mines.
>>527551259I remember hearing that irl mechs would perform best in urban environments because the buildings are natural cover and open environments would just have the mech be target practice.
I guess Helldivers kinda proved it true.
>>527551236I just hate when one enemy pops up 300m behind us and the turret decides to do a 180,shoot it, and go on to make it a full 360, firing the whole time while it does that.
>>527551082its good until an enemy sneaks up behind you because everyone is focusing on the breach,
>>527551350turrets target the enemies closest to therm
>>527550954Staggering low cooldown greens on top of enemies, like drop mines then drop machine gun sentry, the explosion chain dets mines and lets the machine gun sentry finish off the chaff. The knock back lasts long enough that they can get their effect off in time typically.
I was honestly surprised to see how little damage it does to players compared to enemies. It mostly just ragdolls you.
In terms of a new play style potential it's pretty neat.
>>527551350not how the game works, retard.
>>527551363>Throw 500KG on bughole>Im a traitor because 12+ civies are all in there huddled together for some reason>I dieStop trying to make the game bad.
>>527551082it's better than the red turret, but you're just asking to get torn in half by when the gatling spins around to engage the single scavenger that spawned behind everybody.
>>527551456and yet this shit still always happens when a turret is in front of the team
>>527550902Min safe distance is roughly 40 for a walking. But if you toss it forward, wait for the first volley and move forward. It's completely safe.
>>527551456The 4 helldivers and the sentry are probably enough firepower to force the bugs back into their breach. At that point the lone scavenger behind you is the closest enemy.
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>>527551350Go prone.
Situational awareness.
>>527551391Tanks and armour sucks in hostile urban enviorment. No cover. Limited space. Limited direction where to go. Bad visuals
On otherside. Enemies can hide in any apartment or cellar. Traps snd mines everywhere. Easier to move on foot. Espesily if you have time prepare.
Then it's just about ambushing convoy.
Solution to urban warfare is just level everything. Before firepower was there. Just blast throguh everything.
>week 23985623658792675823897562983 of extractions being ghost towns
PLAYTEST YOUR FUCKING GAME, ARROWHEAD
>>527550901Honestly, they might fix the laser continuously firing between targets because how much heat it wastes.
Which would dramatically improve the annoyance factor, might even buff the DPS again.
>>527551717As you push the breach back, you'll move elsewere, and at least one diver can keep an eye out for flanks, don't get me wrong, it's not foolproof, but it's a fair and reasonable play if you've got no time for a more deliberate placement.
>>527551432Don't take gattling
>>527551908main reason why expert extraction pilot became my #1 pick
>bro what about the main 4???dont care. the game is playable without those boosters, i'd rather have the boring extraction be over now.
>>527551908stop blocking the spawns.
it is entirely your fault
>>527550352Intimate turret placement is never behind you. I don't care how elevated that shit is
>>527546162you say this, yet these threads are inundated with individuals wanting to fuck bugs, bots, and illuminate alike. Curious
>>527550901>fix laser dog never overheating>don't return the 100 DPS that got cut from to balance it never overheatingjust arrowhead things
>>527552186Optimal* holy shit what the fuck was that autocorrect
Don't fuck your turrets
>>527551908It's the maps. When extraction is at edge. Game tries to spawn enemies outside of map. And it can't.
Real issue is how they throw enemies at us from one direction only in extraction.
Why it is so hard to make them spawn in 2. 3 or all the directions.
And why is it that spawning gets tricked by player standing on extraction. Rather than calling extraction.
Even mission isn't finished. Just standing at extraction will trigger enemy patrols toward extraction.
>>527552209Homo sapiesn will, when faced with a different competing species, seek to outfuck them, this is one of the theorized methods through which the neanderthal was conquered
>>527552326Considering it was an unlisted change, I wonder if they fixed it on accident.
>>527552435Sir, this is a 4-player PvE COOP horde shooter, not a japanese kusoge.
Is it really THIS obvious and people still say the humans are the bad ones?
>>527552402>And why is it that spawning gets tricked by player standing on extraction. Rather than calling extraction. >Even mission isn't finished. Just standing at extraction will trigger enemy patrols toward extraction.enemy patrols spawn with their target being your current location upon being spawned. if you're standing at extraction when they spawn they're going to path to extraction
>>527552435That explains so much
>>527551363>Stop using minesIsildur_face.gif
>>527552580I cum on all my rounds to make sure if any of my enemies survive, they will be plump and gravid once they recover, if you cannot relate, then I have naught but pity for you.
>>527552618Super Earth made them that way.
>>527552618You gotta understand redditors (leftist) think they should lie down and die just because they're white
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>>527552402I KNOW HOW IT WORKS
EVERYONE KNOWS HOW IT WORKS
WHY THE FUCK DOESN'T ARROWHEAD KNOW HOW IT WORKS
>>527551197the turret being overwhelmed isn't really an issue so as long as it gets to use most of its ammo imo
If a turret is thrown off to the sides and gets overwhelmed, all of those enemies are being drawn away from the main team. There's no need to support the stupid turret because its expendable and their cooldowns are so low now there's very little incentive to actually keep them alive. People just need to learn to chuck turrets out with servo assisted on flanks or to where you can't see them so they can kill things and draw aggro with no risk of decapitating a teammate.
>any eagles, orbitals: win shortcuts for Lazy bad players. Gameplay stopping team killing rain dances
>sentries: noob trap literal team kill machines
>drones: babysitters for short busses
>mechs, trucks, emplacements and backpacks: crutches for cripples
Only way to win is with your rifle and MAYBE your sidearm. Even grenades are borderline behavior. No super-crystal either, or respawns (unless you swing that way).
>>527552847well then stop blocking the spawns you stupid nigger.
its your fault.
>>527552905>>sentries: noob trap literal team kill machinesGo prone
Get more situational awareness
Turn your sound on
>>527552618It's like they pulled a starship troopers, and actually proved the point of super earth.
For a major galactic empire they're doing a pretty good job controlling things.
>>527552025Tell that to the bugniggers.
>>527552780>Hey Jim>Do you really think we need to program the cyborgs to run off of human baby blood>Well unless youve got a better idea...>No I don't have an idea better than baby blood>Okay, now help me figure out human skull trophy subroutine.
>>527553024>Starship TroopersI actually read that book because I bought it years ago and finished it after starting Helldivers. The references are there but the book is just about jacking off military service. It's based but a meme. Would read again though.
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>>527501131here
https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/5769?tab=description
>>527553010you forgot:
>shoot all sentries you can see for you own safety
>>527553358FUCKING BUGS STEALING MY DROPSHIP!
>>527552618>are we the bad guys?I dont fucking care, some alien is trying to kill me, I dont have time to think about philosophical faggot shit.
>>527552618Defending yourself is le hecking fascism
>>527552656Nah. If you go to extraction. Enemies will spawn same way they spawn as during extraction has been called. Same direction. Same gongoline
And it's diffrent than standing middle of nowhere.
I'm just wondering why isn't there system where enemy spawning starts when extraction is called and where they come from and how many directions is dependand on difficulty.
D10. They come from everywhere
>wow this objective is really boring you just stand around pushing buttons for 5 minutes>wow extraction is really fucking boring, no enemies spawn at all on 99% of mapgensGentlemen I have a solution
Just make every single "stand around and wait" objective work like pic related from the moment the first terminal is activated
>>527552967i know solodiving is the hot new meme around here but most people play this game with other people and you're not going to convince 3 illiterate randoms in every single game to stand on the very tippy toe edge of extraction so that both patrols are able to spawn and the countdown timer is allowed to continue
how about instead of rabidly defending what is obviously a broken mechanic you do your part and send a report in about it so that extractions can work like they did in HD1 (FUN)
https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
>>527552618>bugs are fucked off into their own corner of the galaxy not attacking SE before SE attacks them for no reason>SE harvests e710 from bugs as well (lol)>SE brutally violent as well (lol)>blending bugs down into fuel >turning bots into weapons and the DSS>SE only made the bugs more violent/disastrous when they were keeping to themselves pre-HD1>cyborgs were literally abandoned by SE and wanted SE to fuck off after they came back like an absentee father>illuminates were surprise attacked and genocided when they'd only given super earth more technology and wanted to aid themthe evil of SE in hd1 inform the evil of our enemies in hd2
even then, SE is still genocidal as well as a state that reconstitutes human, bug, and bot bodies in order to grease the gears of war
>>527552369You heard it here first folks, optimal turret placement is in your bed.
>>527553645>hes playing with randomsAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA RETARD
>>527553663Israel has a right to defend itself
>Slugger can one tap an overseer head at point blank
>but at 25 meters it needs two taps due to the 200% drag
This was a deliberate balance decision too which is mind boggling. I get its supposed to be a close ranged weapon, but it doesn't do anything exceptional compared to other medium pen rifles. Outside of continous reload.
So whats up with ravagers and their seemingly wildly varying health? Sometimes it's an easy single EAT to the eyes to kill and sometimes it takes like 2-3 EATs to the same spot and they're still not dead. They are a less consistent kill than anything else in the game and its not even close.
>keep dropping into matches with complete retards that manage to waste 18 reinforcements before even completing a single objective
>check settings
>realize that crossplay is on because i have a new C drive
>turn it off
>retards go away and I am placed with people that have functioning braincells
>>527555095inb4 that one PS5er screeching in protest
>>527552402>Game tries to spawn enemies outside of map. And it can't.That's kind of dumb, it should let enemies spawn a little outside of map, just like 50-60 meters.
>>527554762That's like saying the perpetrator of a home invasion has a right to defend himself.
>>527537557but why do you need aoe when you can just shoot everything faster
>>527555095Why are PC players such smug cunts I can aim just fine on pad but you fucks always say "hurr console players suck" as if PC doesn't have shitters too
>>527558038I use a controller on PC, but I play with crossplay off because consoles are for low agency mouthbreathers and generally dumb niggers.
>>527524141am I the only one who can never find these?
>>527558870Just look for the park areas in cities. Do you want me to make an SC lobby to show you?
>>527558513Why you're mad? Did the unoptimized port with kernel-level anticheat crash again?
>>527552618Why is it so hard for the tribal brain to understand that all factions are morally corrupt?
Instead of peace, they all pursued war and violence, Super Earth being the one usually starting them for the sake of keeping the secret elite in power.
Obviously, as a human, I'd side with humanity to ensure my own survival, but that wouldn't mean I'd support the autoritarian and violent means Super Earth imposes, and I'd likely eventually end up labeled as a traitor and maybe caught and executed for trying to survive instead of throwing myself into the battlefield for SE.
There's also the argument that Super Earth sees everyone as expendable, and is guided by a Super AI that controls managed democracy. Meanwhile Illuminate have a clear hierarchy, so high ranking squids are extremely unlikely to ever see war and die, and automatons can back themselves up in data nodes, while soldier bugs are seen nurturing eachother even on the battlefield and all share the same mind (with the mindbug/shroom likely hidden somewhere impossible to find).
The only comfortable things SE offers for the middleman are propaganda of a comfy life (which never lasts because war is everywhere) and a fake sense of camraderie between soldiers.
Meanwhile other factions have actual perks.
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