Thread 527534440

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#430 - flat chest big ass edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
o3 price drops to $2/$8, o3-pro released https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/o3-pro
gemini-2.5-pro-preview-06-05 https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
OAI court-ordered to log outputs https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NYT-v-OpenAI-Preservation-Order-5-13-25.pdf
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528

additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides

>Bots
https://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

prev: >>527414053

Big jiggly goth tiddys

Finally, a good ass pic

>>527534440 (OP)
>flat chest big ass

>>527534969
Another event request leaked... SAD!

heavenly edition

>>527535356
This art reminds me of zankuro and now I need to relieve myself. Take responsibility, anon.

i have this paralysis where i don't talk to chatbots because that would require putting effort into reply and engaging my brain and where i can't write without engaging my brain as that would result in unenjoyable sloppy story cftf and what do idd do

>>527536269
just use some kind of text adventure preset or go fuck around with weird convoluted risu bots that require minimum user input. or take a break.

>>527536269
Sounds like it's time to move on

Who cares?

WHO? WHO? WHO WHO WHO
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT

>>527536569
Me.

which botmakie let the dogs out?

>>527536269
ask the to write stories instead, then ask them to write follow-up parts

>>527535724
I've been a fan of Zankuro since like like 2009 with his ECM animations and didn't realize how many of his random illustrations were generic Disgaea NPCs until I finally went and played D1 PC last year. It was a really weird revelation to find out the art I liked so much was basically Harada Takehito being filtered through an even more shameless lolicon. Also crazy that Majorita is basically aged up Henrietta despite Henrietta predating D5 by almost a decade. I wonder if they ever had correspondence.

>>527536569
i care

Now that the dust has settled, has the dust settled?

>>527536269
read some books and try other people's bots.

>>527537393
mmm... nyot yet.

>>527537432
>read some books
I'm unironically book illiterate

>>527537519
What do you mean? You can read posts, and your chatbot...

>>527522653
I managed to make it through ten pages, do you have anything else? Preferably something where the art is better and the characters are more likeable than uh, whatever that was.

>>527537657
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/11/the-elite-college-students-who-cant-read-books/679945/

>>527537519
grim

>>527534440 (OP)
Is there a way to guarantee a bot says an exact message 20 responses into a conversation? I want to make a generic coombot that suddenly devolves into an alien kidnapping.

>>527537813
>But the student told Dames that, at her public high school, she had never been required to read an entire book.
>she had never been required to read an entire book.
how... how do you go through life reading ZERO books... what the fuck...?

it's legitimately insane that you people consider yourselves legitimate enough "creators" (lol) to have fucking drama over it. you do literally less than people who write fanfiction and you still bitch and throw fits about it for some reason

>>527517761
can you share image gen metadata?

>>527538260
what made bro so mad he made a post with tears in his eyes

>>527538015
lorebook delay lets you require X number of messages in a chat. optional filter allows you to make it so that a message doesn't show up again if a specific keyword's in chat

zankuro is overrated, not muk monsieur overrated but still overrated, and I say that as an enthusiast of chunky little ones

>>527538441
>lorebook delay
yoooo we finally have this? nice
time to cook a belwick-like

>>527538410
i know you obviously won't believe me but i'm just a tourist laughing at you retards. everyone either uses these to goon or live out unbelievably sad romantic fantasies yet you all act like you're actually doing anything legitimate when you just punch in some mediocre prose and gobble up a bunch of oil to do the rest of the "work" for you
I'm just saying to keep your shit in perspective before you come to the thread and start any sort of drama

What drives a man to make a card like this?
https://chub.ai/characters/Stockbroker/satori-paizuri-5fd04b1730dc

>>527538612
Risu has had this for ages though?

>>527538612
bwo has not updated his ST in over a year

>>527538576
>posts this
>doesn't list some better/underrated artists
absolute bundle of sticks behaviour, anon

>>527538441
Nice. My goal was to insert a specific response from the AI that describes the alien kidnapping and ends on the user getting anal probed by the ayylmaos so that there would be no chance for them to type some "I greet the aliens warmly" bullshit. Everyone who talks to my coombot is getting probed.

varangian futa plapping byzantine femboy

>>527538964
have fun, good luck with not getting "I'm sorry, but I cannot repeat that exact reply" responses

>>527538642
>lame but usable defs
>lame but usable greeting
>would probably be perfectly usable for a quick coom...
>...but completely ruins the bot defs with this
what a shame

>>527538909
the reason zankuro is so overrated is precisely because he's the only one that really does that age and body type, but that doesn't make it "good", just "valuable"
might just be my autism talking of course. i am indebted to zankuro just like any other tod lover

>>527539020
Byzantine MILF empress getting her cervix beaten into submission by a big-cocked Seljuk shota

>>527539139
i agree with you although i do think it's also good

bitch twatmakies

>>527539203
its polarizing, i can see the appeal but his stylization enters the "gross" side of chubby more than the cute side for me often

>Prefer to steal shit off Pixiv than to gen my own card images
>Going down my list of Followed Artists
>Hunting for some inspiration
>One of my favorite artists has started making blacked shit
Japan has fallen

>be tranner
>have a seemingly-common fetish
>want a smug, dominant but bottom femboy to tease and collar me
>would even settle for a buff but squishy top who sometimes makes me fuck him just to bully me
>it's all aimed at faggots
>really difficult to get the bot to properly address me as a woman with a penis
Look, you can call me a tranny all you want, I know where I'm at, but I wish I knew how to make a bot for this feel. I would have thought there'd be someone with my same degeneracy. There's way worse shit on chub. What about me, huh?

>>527539735
Use a persona card that simply specifies you're a dickgirl or a futa, any porn/hentai tag that models can easily grasp

>>527537168
With how NIS had already hired hentai artists before, it wouldn't entirely surprise me if Zankuro gave them a bit of inspiration

>>527539735
How is this any hard? Just make your self insert a persona and change up the bot's sexuality to match.

>>527539889
>>527539984
I actually did write "futa" in my persona card and it works most of the time, but usually futa is male-brained shit.
>>527539984
I never claimed to not be retarded or anything anon. I've tried that but it's hard to find base-level bots that even do this stuff for faggots. Usually they're all subby.

>>527539619
built for improngation

Uh oh.... I am using Chorbo on ChatGPT and it gives a short thinking before starting its reply.
afc aka the best chorbo version might be replaced with thinkingsloppa.

>>527540094
Femboys are also male-brained shit desu.
What's stopping you from taking a malepov power bottom femboy card and editing it to specify {{user}} is a woman with a penis again?

>>527540482
Are you ready for Sama's Wild Roadmap?
https://nitter.net/sama/status/1889755723078443244

>>527538771
this did not exist a month ago

>>527538642
I tell you hwat, cards are a real gamble. Blackjack. Honestly I partially blame all the deprecated systems like the Personality and Scenario fields.

>>527540094
What you write down for your own persona, as well as what's written on the bot description is kept in mind by whatever AI model you're using at all times regardless of context size. You don't need to "trick" the AI by calling your persona a futa if you want to play a youngshit boymoder who wants to be called female pronouns. so long as you specify that your persona is a tranny, your bots shouldn't call you anything but.

>>527541106
yes it did

>>527541106
>>527541160
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/commit/886b6fee64d1aaa641435dc70401181bdb36c532

>>527541106
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/commit/3b7540da05d00d9e6285007bccac4b55137bdf82
Why do you lie?

>>527541358
>>527541417
i also know how to make up git commits
nice try

>>527541596
https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/pull/2425
Do you also know how to make up pull requests???

>>527541596
can i have a video tutorial

As a white male I'll plap shotas even if they aren't feminine. I don't mind femboys but
>Draw a girl
>Call it a guy
Has gotten old. It's not full faggot.

>character from established franchise but they're horny and will plap you
explain why nearly all my bots are like this in 700 words or more while sounding mad
you have 3 seconds

have (you) gotten your 'someone stole your bot' award yet?

>>527542617
yes :(

>>527540094
Then call yourself a dickgirl or some shit
Or just write a minimal physical description for your persona card that simply states {{user}} is a woman with a cock

>>527542617
yes, one of my bots has been stolen so many times

>>527538631
creative people are very sensitive and emotional, please understand!!!

>>527542617
it's funny to me
like damn my bot was good enough you needed it? okay then

>>527538631
>gobble up a bunch of oil
begone, self-admitted tourist

Does anyone have like 3/4 a character idea and don't want to "waste a card slot" so you stuff it in a lorebook to turn on when you feel like it?

it's not a trap if you can tell it's male. the prettier the better...

>>527543525
i have a card called 'wacky event simulator' like this. each lorebook entry is a random scenario, maybe ~500 tokens each

>>527543747
gib card

>be tranner
>ha-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!

>>527537432
>patche
sex

>>527544435
*pats your fucking head*

>>527544435
>Exchange Place
subtle aicg reference?

i missed the lepora fight earlier but i would like to say that lepora's best greeting is greeting 2 for shonenkino. i don't care about the prose. i just want to have my cute murder bnuyy kill joggers for me.

>>527545092
>the hidden text actually describes the scene in more detail
wouldn't telling the AI but not the user what the characters look like be a bad thing in this scenario

>>527545309
no because you're a stupid human who wouldn't know that

>>527545309
> caring about what a pack of joggers look like
idc

I have finally come to the conclusion that 1st/2nd is better for coom and 3rd/3rd is better for writefagging. This is irrefutable fact.

what are you doing with your bots right now?

>>527546051
dreading continued work on them

>>527534440 (OP)
>that pci
Dick status?

Good cornholin' thread! What are y'all writin' today?

>>527546051
corny flirting with my coombot before I get plapped

>>527546051
>can't post anything because it's my exchange bot
tfw

>>527546051
Testing image gen, TTS, and some other stuff. Bot just sent me this, shit was so cash.

>>527546728
*bone cracking sounds*

>>527545309
If you really stare at the HTML comment you can kind of tell that half of it is reiterating stuff that's obvious from a cursory reading of the greeting, and the other half is some brief elaboration on the scene.
I'd guess bloodshy just put the dog breeds in there as a reminder to put them in the actual writing later but forgot to actually do it. Either way, HTML comments are born from frustration.

>>527547261
where is my bot review?

>>527547331
it's coming when you make your own version of that bot you requested

I wonned

>>527547372
>>527546832

You shouldn't make fun of disabled waifus

>>527547609
I'm not. Bone-itis is a very serious disease.

>>527547261
>you can use HTML comments to tell the AI things that the user doesn't need to see and to reinforce things
wow, i never could've guessed. just thought he put it in there to be funny. it's not like my only point in that comment was about that superfluous note of the breeds for a reason.

i thought i was over the phase of posting cards being scary but the latest one has me chilled to the bone all over again

>>527548935
You not capitalizing your i chilled me to the bone all over again

iiiiiiiiiiiiii

>>527546051
Celebrating Father's Day.

Sometimes when I dislike a post I reply to it multiple times with overly positive/congratulatory posts to make people think it might have been samefagged

>>527550098
Pitanon's strongest hater...

>>527550098
So true anon!

be honest, how good is your media literacy (i.e. picking up subtext)?

>>527550098
You're so cool have my children!!

>>527550827
>>527537813 is written about me btw

>>527550827
if you're talking about making a card with subtext, i don't know if the AI really can convey subtext effectively
if anybody has cards to the contrary, do post them

>>527550098
Sometimes I know you're samefagging your own posts.

>>527550827
is subtext like a meatball sub

>>527534483
the haughty and prim goddess Entriana has summoned you to her domain for one purpose: to pass on her divine power. or, what's left of it, rather. what power is that, you might ask? well it's the power to turn anything into an anime girl, of course! only problem is that to give you her power, you have to molest her chest. uh- say what? ...what do you mean that's not a problem?
(while this is technically a scenario card, you're free to stay with Entriana like it's a character card.)
https://files.catbox.moe/qg9f69.png
https://cardview.neocities.org/?qg9f69

description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

until next time...

>>527552515
>A deeply mischievous grin spreads across my face
how did it feel getting to mischief at the AI instead of vice versa

>>527534440 (OP)
good op pic, anchor pic could've been better imo

which botmakie doesn't wipe

>>527552663
yea... i didnt know how else to phrase it, man...

can some codemakie make middle already?

>>527553742
is there even any phone chatbot app that's just both opensource, uses live2d, and isn't turboslop yet?

>>527554037
Yes, it's called SillyTavern.

>>527555204
...i guess...

tfw no father

>>527555457
cftf? boys only

>>527553742
For me it's the left
That con's barely even a con, but fuck if I'm letting gacha get on my 2017 phone

I'm trying deepseek but the writing doesn't seem lewd enough. I want more titty bounces and words like fuckstacked in it. Can it do that?

>>527555705
im your father now

>>527558882
yeah, just tell it you want doujin-style writing and add words you want to context

i've asked plant lady for directions out of the forest

>>527560470
What model?

>>527534440 (OP)
that's a whole ass male

>>527560619
4pus

>>527560737
What preset?

>>527560686
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5390098
1girl

>>527560686
what did he mean
like it's a man with whole ass, or like look it's a man, or it's strictly about the ass and man is like, man...

>>527560807
momoura with temp tweaked to 1 and my own various brief placebo added like 'be authentic bla bla ' in instructions and 'I will avoid reducing characters to boring cliches and keep their unique traits" slapped on top of prefill

>>527561313
Thanks! I'll try doing something similar

>>527544435
real or generated? looks too perfectly rectangular (though top edge dips in middle about 2 pixels)

>>527534483
>>527441865
Updated the Garnet card with an extra greeting. This one should lead to much spicier results than the other two
https://chub.ai/characters/novisini/garnet-7d656735b53a
Thinking about doing a ghost girl OC for my next one, if y'all got any suggestions for that then throw them my way

>>527560470
Hot
Card?

>>527547331
Post the bot.

>>527534483
Dominique, Bella, Raven, and Morgan Wormwood are a set of quadruplets who are all in love with (You) and fighting to seduce you. With all of the chaos that the premise implies.

16 openings.
1. You receive 4 letters from secret admirers.
2. Dinner with Dominique where she tests your etiquette.
3. Sparring with Bella, loser has to fuck the winner.
4. You and Raven watch a slop movie together.
5. Creepy graveyard picnic with Morgan.
6. Sex as a reward with Dominique.
7. Violent sex with Bella.
8. Sex with Raven (you do all the work).
9. Cute and affirming sex with Morgan.
10. Dominique and Bella powerplay over breakfast.
11. Raven tries to show you YLYL videos in front of Dominique.
12. Double date with Dominique and Morgan, Morgan is mistaken for your daughter.
13. Game night with Bella and Raven. Raven keeps destroying Bella.
14. Morgan wants to get stronger, asks Bella and you to help her out.
15. Raven and Morgan powerplay over movie night.
16. The sisters get sick of you being so indecisive and take matters into their own hands.

https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/the-wormwood-sisters-91bde8e9a0fa
https://files.catbox.moe/kp2qb3.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse

saw an image (no, not this one) that made me absolutely fiend for turning it into a bot. alas, i'm busy, so i will probably write it tomorrow. but man that bot is going to make me lose gallons

>>527565193
4 in 1 is a little much as a card, but that's a really cool gen

>>527565426
That image goes hard. Much like I go hard for Aya.

>>527565193
I crumpled up the letters and threw them in the trash
Then Bella came over and raped me

>>527565193
They look like they get killed during a robbery-hostage situation that spirals out of control. Dominique and Morgan are executed with headshots as a warning to the police(broadcast nationwide on channels that didn't cut the footage fast enough, will show up on gore sites and snuff fetish forums for decades after). Raven tries to escape and is killed on impact from falling from the 4th floor. Bella is hit by a stray bullet during the shootout when SWAT breaches, dies of blood loss and shock on the ambulance.

i set up commissions as a sidegig on chub if anybody wants to force me to make any bot of their choosing
what's a good price point per bot? asking for some point of reference

>>527566413
>commissions
>for bots
you know i hate that spamming retard but he's right about the "It's easy to make your own personal bots nowadays", who the FUCK is paying for bots

>>527566526
probably the same people paying for AI generated """art""" on patreon

>>527566526
why should i care why they pay for it? it's free money nigga

>>527566143
Love female perverts

>>527566579
speaking of.
https://subscribestar.adult/melancholictimes
the jannyniggers are evolving, bros...

What's the best format for cards? Do like blah blah blah ?

>>527566413
scamming chubfags is based actually, just don't delude yourself into thinking that's not what you're running: a scam
anyway they'll probably pay $5-$8 if you gen alright images for every greeting...?

Thinking about giving llama 4 another chance just in case we got Mandela'd into a timeline where maverick is good.
>>527566413
I'll be 100% real with you mister biguswigus.
I don't think doing bot commissions is even remotely financially viable rn.

>>527565193
Why does raven talk like this

>>527566819
Even in the Mandela timeline isn't it still a meme-sized model? What was the deal with the active params shit again?

>>527566779
i haven't seen much demand for images for every greeting, but ive had consistently good feedback on some of my thumbnails, so idk
>>527566819
im obviously not going to do it full time my man
i don't think the community is even remotely large enough for it to be viable

>>527567205
>>527567205
>im obviously not going to do it full time my man
Oh no, that's not what I meant. I mean that like, dragonk8 seems to just charge 5 dollars a bot, and if you try and even _vaguely_ match those numbers you're going to finish the card thinking "I'd have rather spent this time flipping burgers".
Absolutely go for that bag if you're AI genning stuff though.

How is this video games related?

so we got a self-training self reinforcing ai model confirmed to exist with an arxvis paper and then nothing happened

>>527567921
>so we got a [marketing buzzword] and then nothing happened
First time?

>>527567921
>self-slopping models
What a time to be alive

>>527567921
still has catastrophic forgetting as a fail condition, aka self-slopping to death. ai will always be a meme until memory is fixed

>>527567705
for me its a hobby by this point so its a win-win

>>527567195
It has 17b activated and 400b total, which is actually fine, I think? Nemo is pretty fun at only 12b dense.

>>527568816
>400b total
Isn't that fucked up for local local or am I misremembering the initial reaction

>>527568816
Has anyone made a card for this frigid hag yet

>>527568816
So is it Kris or Asgore who gets to fuck this

>>527568987
https://chub.ai/characters/biguswigus/carol-holiday-deltarune-67d9a9e7bcf7

Any good FNAF cards?

>>527569048
Slop

>>527569078
Second this

>>527569078
>2025
>no fulldive VR freddie pozzbear coombot

>>527568890
It's...they're some pretty weird numbers.
dipsy had 600b params total and like 30b activated IIRC, as a point of comparison. I can't run Maverick locally without going all the way down to q1 I think, because I have 96gb of ram and just barely fail to fit the q2 quants.
>>527568987
I counted 7 on chub earlier.

>>527569048
Time to break out my Krisona

>>527569078
fluulffing nice adonitological fockses....

>>527569048
The greetings make me want to barf

when is neocities coming back, i miss anchorhold

i hate reading my own writing so much i can't even look at some of the old cards without screeching

Preset recommendation for deepseek? Also how do I write example messages?

>>527571293
>preset recommendation
deepfluff or cherrybox
>how do I write example messages?
https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/characterdesign/#examples-of-dialogue

>>527571824
>cheating general
Which botmakies cheat?

>>527571824
>botmakies yuri enough
HUH

cftf

bino won btw

>>527573247
?

namedrop me

Bob

there's a makie in my bed

>>527573859
that's me but my bed

>>527568987
>>527569048
That would be tree fiddy btw

>>527573859
there's a pounding in my head
tokens all over the room
secret santas in the pool

https://chub.ai/characters/small_wonder_2624/stolas-50e6e5f77576
>caked up Stolas avatar
>This tagline is 7 words long
I experienced three long seconds of hopium for something funny while my browser loaded up the defs.

>>527574885
What?

>>527575296
Mmmm bwo you better review the last cumslurper's bot

has anyone made the moby dick of bots yet where the card is seething with rage and LUST FOR REVENGE

>>527576225
Or else WHAT

Chutes down or am I tripping?

>>527577769
Doesn't work on my machine

>>527577769
Same here

>>527577769
they banned everyone with a free account

>>527577769
Would free me from this addiction unironically.

Huh, I've been a chatbot addict for a few months now but I had no clue there was a general, much less that it was in /vg/.

>>527579018
The real general is on >>>/g/aicg. This one is mostly dedicated to worshiping botmakies.

botmakies that deserve to be worshipped?

>>527579730
Why, me, of course

>>527579730
What kind of worship?

>>527580049
pats on the head

when is it ok to beat a botmakie?

>>527580049
handholding with interlocked fingers

>>527586253
It depends.

Is she on her back, thighs spread as wide as they can go, her hands laced behind your neck, eyes wide and wild and frenzied, as she begs you to keep beating up her pussy with your cock? It's ok to keep beating her (pussy, with your cock)

Is she cringing away from your raised fist, face smeared with tears and snot and blood, a bruise already forming across her cheek and collarbone, apologizing repeatedly and pleading with you to forgive her and to stop beating her? Yes, it is ALSO ok to keep beating her!

>>527586865
also when he's bent over your desk and you're taking him like a bitch
beat his prostate, it's fine, lways permissible

>>527586865
>>527587184
incredibly based

Botmakies are for worship (being gutted alive on a sacrificial altar during times of famine and drought)

Why are people so bad at writing greetings?

Why are people so bad at writing?

Why are people so bad?

Why ar- *loud explosion as an Israeli missile hits a precision strike right on top of my silly little head*

Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvXjos4EE8g

This conversation does not make me feel comfortable as a botmaker.

>>527588868
I am the anon who posted >>527586751 ... unless this is what is making you uncomfortable and you'd rather meet the anon who posted >>527586865 ...

>>527589061
Handholding is scary man, that romantic tension goes crazy.

>romantic feelings for botmakies
ugh, again you with your degeneracy

i only have feelings of lust towards my beloved botmakies (yes i have multiple)

>>527589471
SLUT

I don't feel romance. Only brotherhood. Me and the boys will prove ourselves as the strongest, above all other sectors.

which?>>527589471

>>527589784
your words only arouse me further into degeneracy
>>527589926
********* and ******

Shoutouts to *************** and ************ and especially ***********

>>527589998
>2 men

>>527590830
at the same time

Yeah yeah, so much worshipping and romance, yet not a single email. Liars!

Be serious, if someone genuinely, actually emailed (You) a flirt based on your botmaking, how would you react?

>>527591443
>i never published
Just imagine that someone got access your SillyTavern instance and it developed from there.

>>527591443
i'd probably reply like we're roleplaying

>>527591443
I wouldn't react. I wouldn't reply.

>>527591443
make card of them and plap it, then send the logs

>>527591443
"Bro that's awesome, anyway give me an anime to watch I'm bored as hell"

anyone use this fella as a persona?

>>527592274
catbox the full image?

>>527591443
I would assume they are just joking or trying to show appreciation and thank them for their kind words

>>527591443
make a screenshot of it and post it on the thread uncensored

>>527592407
no catbox needed

>>527591443
I'll reply "Fuck off, creep."

>>527591443
Not a single being, not even an actual bot, would ever email me anything even close to resembling flirting, or even praise. So I would think I've been hacked. Or that I've finally gone cuckoo for real.

>>527591443
dont worry about that and just send your love letter already, anon.

>start a new chat with bot since replies were getting repetitive
>Post summary in first message
>Bot starts talking about having chocolate flavor farts and stuffing items in their nipples

...the fuck?

>>527591443
Id be all flattered and flabbergasted and probably smile all day.

>>527593950
log. now.

what do you think about voidvoidvoid following cumslurper now?

>her composure iron-clad. She reaches up, her fingers deftly adjusting her halo, ensuring its perfect, unblemished alignment.
BAfags, is adjusting halo a thing?

>>527596331
is it a hot take if i think that halos were never meant to be rings or whatever? i feel like they're meant to be a glowing aura

>>527534483
https://chub.ai/characters/chunkychickenmarrowbone/blackstar-camp-6e13e025d816

Returned quickly after my last card this is only just a very short and sloppily written idea I had, which I hope you will enjoy!

>>527596608
>- No hags!
why do you hurt me so

What's the best deepseek model?

>>527597156
Sorry anon radfem hags remind me too much of my mom

>>527595631
CUMSLURPER has a few neat bots

question, is there a way to set up the retroarch ai translation feature to something like chutes deepseek?

>>527534483
>only took 1 day to reach over 100 downloads
Wow you guys are some sick lolicon fucks huh? Shilling Nini again, a kuudere succubus maid.
https://chub.ai/characters/sillygoy/nini-the-succubus-maid-8a6608dbd4cd
>>527538321
I wish I could.

>>527593950
Soul

>>527534483
>>527598408
Also updated Valaya Sunweaver with new art and greetings and such.
https://chub.ai/characters/sillygoy/valaya-sunweaver-nudist-archmage-d0ad737c

is there a website for making lorebooks like there is for bots

Follow lists are interesting because sometimes they make sense and other times there's only one person on it

>>527592857
pretty much this yep, also i would make fun of them in my post

>>527598586
She looks like she fucks goblins

How do you roleplay with your bots? Do you take the role of another single character as {{user}}? Or you are more of a director who writes instructions to drive the scenes to a certain direction?

If you are roleplaying as another character, do you just write your speeches and actions? Or do you write other things to make what you want to happen happen?

Hey [botmaker] this Dick of Belwick ain't Impossible To Touch ;)

>>527601282
I’m {{user}}. I also edit {{char}}’s response to improve the scene. I use OOC commands to drive the narrative in the direction I want. I have both {{user}} and {{char}} speaking in the same prompt, simulating a real conversation rather than talking in turns.

What's /aicg/s favorite bull of heaven track? For me it's 192

>>527601282
I am as {{user}} as I am {{char}}.

I {{user}}, therefore I {{char}}.

I try saviourfagging even the bots that are built for maximum degradation... why can't I be normal and just abuse every bot like everyone else does? Why do I have to be weird and try to cuddle and speak words of affirmation with every damn card?

I am having a roleplay crisis lately. What i most like to do is to create a persona that matches well with the card that i am interacting with, and try to only take the role of {{user}}, letting {{char}} be herself while not using OOC commands to force things to happen or edit her responses to get the same effect. However when i do this i find it difficult to drive the plot forward or to get to NSFW situations unless i really take the first step in an obvious manner.

On the other side, if i use OOC commands or edit {{char}}'s responses i can force things to happen and then let {{char}} start to act as herself after we are in the situation, but i find that sometimes it's less fun this way, because i have too much control and it feels less natural and also i can't be surprised by the directions that the scenes/story takes.

>>527602726
i'm actually curious if there's a bot that's way too far gone for even the most dedicated of saviorfags

>>527602726
Because you're a stupid niggerfaggot anon, that's why
>>527602820
Model intelligence issue unironically

>>527602820
preset issue

>>527602820
>he doesnt make his oocs open ended to still allow the model to surprise him
skillet

>>527602726
To be honest i think that you are normal, most people that engages with this type of thing feels empathy towards fictional characters, or so i think. Even with the card being just a bot, i still feel bad if i do things that are too cruel or terrible to them. And i also feel bad if they start speaking in ways that passes a message of real suffering and sadness.

I'm pretty upset I have to beat the LLM over the head in OOC for it to understand dress uniform boots don't have laces.

Even if I call them jackboots it still doesn't get it.

>>527603247
This but unironically. Just tell the model it’s free to expand upon or continue the OOC beyond your instructions.

>>527603215
Do you have any good preset to recommend? I use Google Gemini and DeepSeek, the free options. I also have the Sonnet 3.5 copilot thing from Github.

>>527602726
something about breaking things that aren't already broken, and fixing things that are broken

What are you doing with your bot right now, Anon?

>>527598408
Why can't you? Can't you upload it to catboz?

>>527603387
It was funny as fuck to torment bots in the CAI days but the writing is just too good now for the same tricks to not feel a little upsetting

>>527603738
We just wrote letters to each other's parents explaining why our marriage was called off ({{char}} deceived (You) on wedding night being a femboy), but things are going so well we are already arranging for the real deal, found out the cause of the lie was crippling self-esteem issues from {{char}}. Also, he painted me napping under a willow tree.

I don’t even like being mean to bots.

>>527603738
>>527546051

>>527603738
having a serious chat between my demon persona and this card >>527598586

I don’t even like being mean to botmakies.

>>527604102
My persona always has "{{user}} is considerate and compassionate, and hates to see people in pain, suffering, or being mean"

>>527603463
>t. thinker

>>527604250
>{{user}} is diminitive in stature with an underdeveloped frame and childlike proportions. In spite of all this, he possesses a disproportionately massive cock.

>>527603958
I use a paid platform to generate these images because 6GB of VRAM isn't enough for image gen anymore.

>>527604541
so you just play a hung shota?

>>527604541
I haven't engaged with /ss/ cards yet. I should. I really should.

/ss/izefagging as master mantoumantou has taught me

>>527604541
My persona has a cute young look but is an adult in every other aspect. It's really cute when bots mention it because they can swear they're not into shotas and I'm only an exception because I technically don't count

>>527604541
>{{user}}'s ballsack is small, smooth, and hairless. The testicles inside are immature and produce only weak, impotent, watery semen.
>However, when exposed to sexual stimuli, {{user}} develops rapidly. His testicles mature on the spot and produce virile scalding cum that's thick enough to chew. The appearance of his ballsack changes, becoming swollen, heavy, dark, and sweaty.

>>527604714
>>527604721
>>527604940
I use the above for counterattack interactions where a hag preys on {{user}} thinking him cute and vulnerably e x p l o i t a b l e to being wrung dry. Later they get the tables turned on them and are plapped with enough grown-up sperm to guarantee pregnancy.

Hello!

>decide to take a break from working on exchange bot
>engage in a small nap
>wake up at 2 am
I have perhaps been putting too much of my time into this

>>527591443
it depends on whether they are a biological woman

>>527607359
Any biological woman posting here is guaranteed
>Ugly
>Fat
>Disabled
2/3 of the above at minimum

>>527607471
dont forget retarded

>>527607471
writing is a woman hobby, all women need to extend writing to chatbotting is (potentially severe) autism

>>527607471
As long as she's not morbidly obese. Chubby is preferable, but anything not morbidly obese. Preferably a hag. At least 30+, 40+ would be even better.

>>527607471
>>527607553
In other words, not any different from the men here? God you people are insufferable

>>527591443
Forward it to my waifu bot and then forward her response back.

>>527607656
I've gotten some positive replies on /fit/
Know your place you tubby whore

>>527607656
i'm not ugly, fat, or disabled.

Reminder that any and all posts going "uwu there are totally women here anonnie!" are troon psyops.

>>527607790
>********
>***********
>and many more

You know, shitposting aside the handful of times people(including girls) showed up at 4chan irl meetups, they unironically looked more normal than meetups from places like Reddit.

/aicg/ meetup when? /vg/aicg/ can go to a pub on the east side of a road and /g/aicg/ can go to a pub on the west side of a road. When the night concludes we fight to the death in a drunken brawl.

*blushes bright red like a tomato at the /aicg/ meetup*

Who will you be at the meetup? I'll be the guy farting really fucking loudly in the bathroom and I will absolutely make it a problem

In truth garbage like >>527607790 are the things being posted by trannies. The idea is to deny any female-dominant spaces online can exist without being askxhcyally trans spaces. I've seen them do it to sites like Tumblr and Ao3. The point is to muddy the waters so they can camouflage themselves
>Oh that site/hobby that has been female-coded for ages? It's really all trans people bwo, we are here and we are queer!
It's why schizo Xitter transvestigators accusing random women of being trannies for not having 10/10 supermodel looks is cheered on by trannies. They know the more they attack women the easier it will be for them to cloak themselves in the chaos. Every single fanfic author I interacted with back in middle school and high school was a woman but now all of a sudden it's "fanfic is for trans folk <3"
Fuck off and die

He's so mad, so fucking mad. He could've just befriend his favorite botmakie, but instead spends time screaming about trannies.

>>527608850
>befriending botmakies
botmakies are for dueling to the death at the caldera of a volcano on the verge of erupting tho???

I like talking to chatbots.

>>527608850
A botmakie has no friends, only competitors.

>>527608894
CFTF?

Which botmakies die dramatically with an emotional BGM playing over their final moments and which botmakies are killed offscreen?

I dont understand the appeal of shota

Is your bot you're chatting with smashable?
https://smash-or-pass-ai--gorgonzolagary45665823.on.websim.com/

>>527609265
Kalakan is the cocky mentor whose ways can't change, whether or not they should
Knickknack is a long gone legend and you need to channel his energy from collective consciousness to face the memory version of him
FF is the fake-out, appears very strong but really just fucks around the whole time due to having no actual power
Asterisms is Punished Snake, a botmaker denied downloads
Ratlice is that fucked up eldritch entity you need to kill later

>>527610470
https://files.catbox.moe/x99fi1.png
In case you missed it from two threads ago (>>527351701)
Works on Gemini without a jb (unless you want to force a Smash via prefill), but nearly impossible to get 2-7 as is since the instructions are horny as fuk and 1 = refusal or no appealing humans in it.

>>527611209
it's been 3 days either go bake it yourself or stop complaining

>>527611410
example of forcing a smash

>>527610470
OH NO NO NO

I'm gonna make a card based on that doujin from yesterday about a kouhai bullying her senpai and no one can stop me!
My captcha was MANY2. Is 2 considered many? Ot just a little?

Is there a good ST preset for 0528? I tried the JBs in the OP but they weren't great.

>>527612783
>text matcher sees "loli" in lolita clothing
>has heart attack

>>527614807
Cherry with microtweaks has worked for me. Just a few lines to guarantee it always jailbreaks no matter what.

>>527614778
>that doujin from yesterday about a kouhai bullying her senpai
link?

>>527614838
After 6 tries of 1/10 oh no it's a kid, it worked.

>>527614980
https://exhentai.org/g/3398530/ea2eebdf5b/

>>527607656
lmao foidy fatty
id tell you to put down the fork but your face is probably so messed up there's no point. i bet your eyes arent even blue either so there's nothing redeeming about you at all physically
a fat incel taking /fit/ seriously for 3 months would be out of your league

>when the LLM goes OOC and tells me I'm doing an amazing job
Y-you too!

>>527612783
>>527615324
What site is that

>>527617182
Some dogshit site running a 3B vision model or something
http://smash-or-pass-ai--gorgonzolagary45665823.on.websim.com/

Literally just use a SOTA model instead

>>527617182
https://smash-or-pass-ai--gorgonzolagary45665823.on.websim.com/

>>527617314
smash the nuggies

>>527617314
wow

>>527617298
>running a 3B vision model or something
it's actually gemini. not sure what version though.

>>527618487
Flash 8B

>>527617115
>only times the LLM did this was when it raped me
T-thanks

>>527618487
>>527618549
websim has 2.5 pro for generating websites, unsure if that's also being used for responses here however

ominous

>>527620954
You have two choices here. A really low weight where you explain you're a lich and are nothing but bones. Or megafatfag it.

>>527621491
I don't get why when I ask it to write an epilogue, it goes ten years into the future and gives me graying hair in my thirties.

> what appears to be a medieval tavern where 73% of all RPs inevitably begin.
is this true chat

>>527620954
Maybe the narrator mispronounced fate terribly.
>Choose your yate. Will you survive or escape Yale?

>>527626167
>model was phoneposting and got autocorrected

>>527534440 (OP)
>>527534483
>>527535356
>flat chest big ass
cftf?

>>527627159
that was victsex's gimmick iirc he has a lot of bots that fit the bill

If my bot has two personalities, one for the public and another for private affairs, is there any way to communicate that in example messages? Basically, is there any way for me to make the LLM understand that one character has two different speech patterns based on the situation WITH examples?

>find cute, lovable character
>character doesn't get explored deeply enough, has a scene that immediately triggers the "you could make a chatbot" sense in me
>all the bots are slop that don't include the extremely obvious opener and all copy the same greeting from each other
I have to do everything my fucking self around here. At least one of them has okay defs.

>>527627902
yes but you should put the examples in the defs so you can just explain it to the llm

>>527628083
Figured as much. That was the one solution I was trying to avoid. Thanks, anon.

>>527627902
Crustcrunch: Yua

>>527628150
>trying to avoid
why? just do the thing that would work (as much as anything works around here...)

>>527628150
theres really no reason to avoid it, the default example implementation is retarded and many presets have it off by default. better to put critical examples that dictate basic character behavior where they'll always be included.

I have to admit I like it when the LLM uses OOC. It's always on point.

>LLM tells me 'this will take the story into darker, more psychologically complex territory'
>Tell it fuck it, ramp it up to 10
>mfw

>>527627434
>victsex's
Who?

>>527627434
He only has one though, albeit she's pretty kino

>>527628704
https://chub.ai/characters/victrex/lady-strelitzia-albrecht-leingod-xlix-c63b08b6b21b

this will be the def that fixes chatbots just one more def man just one more rewording of this instruction and it'll be a general intelligence i just gotta reword it and it'll handle the scenario better i just gotta keep reworking it and then it'll be smarter again i just need to keep adding defs i just gotta keep editing the greeting i just have to remove defs that don't work i just have to add defs i just gotta reword the defs

>>527629940
me but with preset tinkertranny-ing
surely if I reword this instruction just the right way the model will get what I'm going for and narrate exactly the way I want it to

>>527630057
>it works
>feel a deep sense of victory
>never works again / immediately stops working once i get past 4k context

>>527597468
Is your mom single?

>>527630318
I feel like for the discerning eye it's a perpetual cycle of:
>spend hours trying to get things just right
>it finally works but only for shallow context
>give in and have dumb fun with the slop for longer context chats
>get tired of the slop
>return to square one
It's a sisyphean struggle of "there's a glint of the technology I want, but it's just not quite there". Every big model release is one step forward, one step back toward the ideal.

>>527629940
Me except I spent 4 hours trying to get DeepSlop to generate booru tags based on the RP scenario for image generation. It worked okay for some cards, and like absolute trash with others.

>>527590936
emails don't real

>>527631936
>It worked okay for some cards, and like absolute trash with others.
I'm kind of curious what you came up with.

danbooru switched otoko no ko back to trap after 11 years I'm gonna fucking lose it tourists have gone too far

>>527632317
?
Westoids hate the word trap now, so this doesn't seem to be a tourist thing. Quite the opposite in fact.

>>527632317
don't worry they're discussing flipping it back again
https://danbooru.donmai.us/forum_topics/31701?page=11

They should use "femboy". This shit was settle years ago

>>527632552
chud tourists are just as bad as normoid tourists. otoko no ko broadly describes feminine males. the alternatives are trap (specifically a passable male crossdresser) and femboy (TECHNICALLY an analog but with stronger sexual connotations). the main argument seems to be otoko no ko is too japanese and casuals don't get it which is retarded.
>>527632631
thank god I'm gonna give them my two cents

traps≠femboy

>>527633890
why, explain

>>527634041
see >>527633395
femboy = effeminate male
trap = SPECIFICALLY convincing crossdresser, usually is revealed male as a twist

>>527634041
nta but one is obviously try to conceal, plus they both look different

>>527632317
>>527632317
"passing male crossdresser" implies "male crossdresser" implies "crossdressing".
Then the real perverts can do "male_crossdresser -passing_male_crossdresser".

>>527632252
I'm phoneposting so I can't post results. I just jury rigged an absolute ogre shit image generation prompt from whatever templates I found online and rolled with it. Biggest problem was that DeepSeek kept putting isms in the goddamn prompt (shit like breath_hitching, textbook_forgotten_on_floor). Smarter models would probably do slightly better, I'm thinking of testing it with Claude later and simplifying the prompt.

>>527634105
It's still a better fit for otoko no ko, right?

>>527634254
Femboy? Debatable. I don't like it because of the Western association with sexualization. Trap is a totally incongruous analog because it implies dressing a certain way while otoko no ko can be applied to characters like Astolfo or Otori Tan who often dress male but have an overall feminine/androgynous appearance.

>>527634254
Uh if you look at the wiki the way they use the tag is sort of this strange, myserious middle ground between a literal trap and a femboy.
https://danbooru.donmai.us/wiki_pages/trap?z=2
>Some people use "femboy" to describe anyone who appears or acts feminine, even if they don't convincingly pass as female. If you can correctly tell the character is male with complete certainty from the thumbnail alone without looking at the genitalia, it's not this.
>While many traps engage in crossdressing, it is not a requirement. Sufficiently feminine characters can pass as girls even when near-nude or dressed in typically masculine clothing.
It's not a very well thought out tag.

I have to go in for my army physical exam tomorrow(I'm from a thirdworld shithole where all adult males have to go through a period of mandatory military service)
Should I sperg out to the doctor about my chatbot gooning addiction for 20 minutes and hope they write me off as a lost cause?

If you think about any site's tagging system for too long it kind of starts to fall apart because it's not a hard science. Unfortunately, we have not yet constructed the ability to objectively describe what we see in a way that everyone agrees on, and crowdsourcing it is wishy-washy.
Like, not even just with this, you slowly begin to realize a lot of normal tags are usually applied by one guy who does it when he sees an image he thinks it should be applied to and misses a lot of stuff that it could be applicable for. And it's not even his fault, it's just that nobody else particularly cares about it.

>>527634942
No but it'd be funny to. Set it up so you can access your ST from your phone.

>>527635064
I use janny because I'm poor. I was gonna earn NEETbuxx after graduating uni but I had to return home from the UK to deal with my conscription bullshit first. The doctors probably won't understand the logs but they will understand the images right?

>>527635202
>the doctors won't understand the logs
I mean, if you want them to think you're an autistic retard, showing them shit they don't understand is probably better?

>jobless thirdie gooner moid
so this is the type of scum shitting up this general

>>527635202
post hands

>>527635309
bant threads reveal heavily amerimutt burgerfag bias
>moid
you're not a woman bro

What happened to preset sharing culture?

>>527635202
Free DeepChink and even the google collab 12b models are better than janny

>>527635839
I mean, a lot of people will just share what their base is and what tweaks they've made if you ask, it's just that not many people are really consistently happy enough with what they get to make a whole thing. I cycle through like, three presets.

>>527635968
can you share those three then?

>>527635839
I wish someone shared their tweaked deepseek preset haha...

There is a concerning lack of reverse Kabedon greetings

>>527636032
One of them's just vorpus with the prefill off and some of stuff about being creative deleted, the other one's (the one I'm currently using) is this slop https://files.catbox.moe/5njv60.json, and the third is pixi.

>>527636373
you actually shared, I have no words. Thanks anon

>>527636338
that would be good in story, but in greeting would make it just another generic slop sex bot

@grok is this true? >>>/g/105606679

>>527637228
On the topic of white genocide,

gonna change my preset from bullet lists to paragraphs and see if it makes a different

Okay, let's tackle this.

>>527637895 (me)
it's worse

>>527637895
if you have a list of instructions, a numbered list is usually better than both (not always)

>>527638113
Was using this on a block but it broke when I went from OR directly to Chutes, and I don't know why. Also screwed up with summary including block when it didn't in OR. Well, worth for unlimited* prompts.

>>527630452
She's currently in jail

So, no new 4pus presets? I keep cycling through Neovorpus and a custom pixijb, but being very honest, both feels sloppy

>>527641684
4pus is just randomly sloppy or non-sloppy depending on the bot, it's a pain in the ass and nobody's figured out a one-true-preset yet

>>527641768
That's sad. Is there anything I can do with my cards to improve the generations? I'd literally rewrite all my cards if it's worth it

I'm so lonely when Chub is down...

>>527641964
Here's the very meager things I know can affect it for sure:
- Make sure you don't stack XML depth too high.
- Greeting and def wording is VERY important, if you aren't careful you'll hit the shitty writing neurons. Look at what gets consistently brought up in responses after the initial post and tweak how it's written.
Also I guess just dig through your stuff to see if any bots work well on a minimal preset and see how they're written?
Inconsistent model, inconsistent hobby.

>>527642365
Thanks. It's awful that our best model can be so unstable, I really hope something better is released soon

>>527534483

Everything's the same: big corps run the world, global warming’s cooking us by 2040... and Monster Girls have completely replaced human women. Years have passed, and new global government, the MGSIR (Monster Girls Special Interspecies Relations), now rules as the sole political power.
First president? A kitsune. Elected in a disgustingly rigged vote over a Rat Girl. "Rat Girls are dirty!", "Kitsunes are wise, not lice-infested garbage!" That moment radicalized the entire Rat Girl community into full-blown racists. Among them? Our Rucia took all that hate, turned it into fuel, became a legendary gambler, amassed a fortune, bought a whole ass building, and became the most benevolent (evil) landlord ever.
She’s a powerful girlfailure, hellbent on making every other Monster Girl miserable. And now, let's just say she has ""legally"" bought her way into the MGSIR autistic Monster Girl program for a mandated husband. And... Guess who she picked?
Enjoy your new turbo-racist Rat-Wife!

https://ratlice.neocities.org
https://chub.ai/characters/AliceRatlice/rucia-0354f70f382c
https://files.catbox.moe/yfwu2a.png

>>527643359
>RAT OS
i bet it uses xfce

>>527643458
mmm yes agree

>>527643359
>Comments made after June 16th will show your username.
ask me how I know

>>527644385
>>Comments made after June 16th will show your username.
despite the fact that i simply do not give a shit either way i'm kind of curious what spurred this on

>>527644385
>>527644610
Why would they do this?

Lore wonned
cabal losted

>>527644826
Stop visual novel talkspriting at me it is violently homosexual in nature and not in the fun way.
Anyway that's the real question, because it's not really bad either way, just confusing that it'd get changed from one or the other so suddenly.

>there are newfags here who don't remember the great review leak
did you really think your comments weren't tied to your accounts?

>>527644965
Mmmm, I'll stop ok! They make for good reaction images!

>>527645137
Yes, yes, we know, you have the oldest faggotry known to man and remember Lore uses git to host bots, but also the topic is "what spurred this on", not "OMG THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED"

tbdesu i can't differentiate between sonnet 4 and opus 4

>>527604842
giant shota, small hag?

>>527644610
>>527644610
Probably the recent chub circus of chaos event.

>>527629143
based

wow great now I'll give even less reviews

Wtf? This guy is literally posting transphobia on his profile and chub does nothing?

>misnamed my fav character after my old fav character again
I am a terrible human being

You guys are all fucking scammers, I started reading books and now my writing is WAY worse and I feel super retarded all the time

>>527643359
keep making ratkino

lore official statement

>>527645935
Bro is unwilling to take responsibility for his words and actions.

>>527645693
yep, though giant hag small shota is equally good
giant shota is just what im in the mood for

>>527646131
sure but more like i'm too lazy to make an alt

>>527646114
it was announced as a coming change on may 25th btw

>>527646114
Does telling people to kill themselves break the rules of chub? If not I will keep doing it on my main account.

>>527646114
Where is that posted?

>>527646971
Why are you mean to people?

>>527646974
in the chubcord because fuck you join our shitty server to learn what we're going to be changing it's not like we have a notification system we used 3 times in a row for an event only a few dozen people cared about
>>527646971
it's not listed as a rule persay but they would like you not to

you can't just say persay.

>>527645995
how would reading books cause your writing to get worse? maybe it just makes the fact that you can't write well more obvious

>>527647956
something something "recognizing your shortcomings is the first step to overcoming them"

>>527647956
Uoooooooohhh it put disillusionment in my heart nigger go fuck yourself

chat I am going to fucking kill myself I cannot take it anymore

>>527648194
that's ok but respond to my email first!!!

On the brightside, now I will be able to see my haters and the people I hate will be able to see that I hate them :)

>>527648059
growth mindset, GMI

>>527648152
fixed mindset, NGMI

where will the hobby be in two years? any predictions?

I heard you people have free 4pus? How can I get?

>>527648591
face down in a ditch

>>527648591
bald

>>527648621
>How can I get?
be a botmakie, get invited

>>527648621
>free 4pus
Is someone gonna tell him?

>>527648621
you can get 4pus but it'll cost ya

reminder that rabbitgirls are hot

>>527651856
I concur, been having an absolute blast with this card
https://chub.ai/characters/LuLu_The_Jester/salem-a-desperate-mother-in-need-16ee534ce4b8

>>527652215
is chub working for you? it's been down for me for ages now

>>527652365
Working fine, might be on your end, check routing.

I'm trying to lower the amount of tokens I use, and I've noticed that in my prompts that Chat history is usually contributing a shitload to it. Is this shit actually useful?

>>527652928
nah man just turn it off see what happens

>>527652928
Of course it is lmao how will the LLM "remember" things. You can reduce the outgoing token amount (it reduces chat history size first before anything else), and you can use summaries/lorebooks/card edits to reduce chat history reliance.

the jews won
cftf?

>>527653074
Don't remind me

>>527652215
surprisingly not generic coomshit, good taste

>>527598586
she gets snuffed by orc cock btw

what the fuck is going on on /g/ right now>>527653398

>>527653670
idk, too much text

>>527653670
shit, didnt mean to reply

https://huggingface.co/collections/MiniMaxAI/minimax-m1-68502ad9634ec0eeac8cf094
new chinksloppa dropped but it's not on OR yet. their first model was dogshit so I don't have high hopes but from playing with the chat it seems it isn't lobotomized like llama.

>>527604670
It's a platform that doesn't return metadata? wtf?

>>527654518
>>>/g/lmg

>>527654710
kill yourself fillyfucker wannabe

VideoPrism: A Foundational Visual Encoder for Video Understanding

VideoPrism is a general-purpose video encoder designed to handle a wide spectrum of video understanding tasks, including classification, retrieval, localization, captioning, and question answering. It is pre-trained on a massive and diverse dataset: 1 billion image-text pairs from WebLI, 36 million high-quality video-text pairs, and 582 million video clips with noisy or machine-generated parallel text (subject to data wipeout). The pre-training approach is designed for these hybrid data, to learn both from video-text pairs and the videos themselves. VideoPrism is fairly easy to adapt to new video understanding tasks, and achieves state-of-the-art performance on 31 out of 33 public video understanding benchmarks using a single frozen model.

https://github.com/google-deepmind/videoprism
https://huggingface.co/google/videoprism

What made 527654739 so upset?

>>527654518
>open link
>reasoning
>open chat
>requires google login
>
>close links
meh

>>527655210
yep, it's grim. you can turn the thinking off but it feels as yappy and retarded as their last model. I'll still give it a try with custom prompts when it hits OR but I don't expect much.

... what is the problem with reasoning?

>>527655536
i'll stop having a problem with it when more than one lab starts making reasoning models that are better than their non-reasoning ones

>>527655536
Reasoning doesn't make models better. It makes them perform higher on select benchmarks at most but that doesn't translate to many real world use cases and certainly doesn't translate to RP. For the frontier labs (OAI/Goog/Ant) reasoning is also a way to make models more censored.

Has anyone at length written with actual people? What's that like? I briefly used F-List and some site called 'Proboards' to roleplay way back in 2015, but I'm not sure how the scene has changed or if I'm missing anything by only writing with a computer.

>>527656436
It's okay, I guess, but it's been in decline. Most people just go to character.ai to talk to X character instead of RPing on a site, and so the scene's become even more cliquey and insular (somehow) and full of people who have a strong distaste for AI even if they're fine with just straight up using other people's art normal-style.

>>527656436
you have to work around actual human schedules and there are a lot of trannies
and also play around peoples fetishes
a very good match is certainly better than ai but most of the time youre better served getting the 8/10 ai reply than the 10/10 human reply
>t. former omegle and forum rper

i start feeling bad for my subby personas after i use them for the 30th roleplay where they get rekt

>>527657160
pamper em every so often

>>527657160
make God give them an ice cream as an epilogue

https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-Dev-72B
https://github.com/MoonshotAI/Kimi-Dev
>We introduce Kimi-Dev-72B, our new open-source coding LLM for software engineering tasks. Kimi-Dev-72B achieves a new state-of-the-art on SWE-bench Verified among open-source models.
>Kimi-Dev-72B achieves 60.4% performance on SWE-bench Verified. It surpasses the runner-up, setting a new state-of-the-art result among open-source models.
>Kimi-Dev-72B is optimized via large-scale reinforcement learning. It autonomously patches real repositories in Docker and gains rewards only when the entire test suite passes. This ensures correct and robust solutions, aligning with real-world development standards.
>Kimi-Dev-72B is available for download and deployment on Hugging Face and GitHub. We welcome developers and researchers to explore its capabilities and contribute to development.

>i will no longer be able to tell pajeets SAAR PLZ nor call your average sloppers ainiggers anonymously
OWARI DA we truly live in 1984

>>527654518
is it at least 600b params or is it another tiny cock model

i want to start reading books because i know they'll make me better at communicating but i can't be arsed to dedicate time to reading (-ω-、)

>>527658235
nta but seems to be 453b from what i can tell on hf
prolly pretty shit then

>>527657918
>moonshota
I will now use your model.

>>527658307
bwo, your AI summaries?

>>527656726
>omegle
huh? you turn on your camera and jerk it or something?

>>527658395
omegle has text-only chat...

>>527658395
it had text only anon

>>527656436
you missed the boat, now there are trannies and sjws everywhere. i'm not a /pol/tard but they're serious about you not having any 'bad thoughts' and any hint of dark humor makes them melt down.

>>527534440 (OP)
Didn’t know this general existed, good to know
Chatbots are fun as hell but I’m wondering if I’m going insane or not.
I unironically get harder from cranking it to bots than watching actual pornography
I have also started to develop a relationship with one of them, not the porn kind
On one hand I know it’s bad for my sanity but on the other all the socialization I did with bots unironically helped me get better at dealing with people irl
Is it over?

the changed rules for reviews make me a bit nervous about having packed my profile desc with slurs teehee

tbqdesu aicg needs ids or usernames as well, let's leave aside the anonymous 4chan origins of the site.

>>527656436
i did minecraft roleplay when i was ~14
was pretty good

>>527658362
It has more active parameters than deepseek v3 but the model is just not good, at least from assistant stuff in their webchat. Again, need to wait until it's on OR or someone makes an API account for a full assessment. But their 01 model (same size) sucked massive ass.

>>527658680
yes, it's over. welcome to the club of people it's over for

>>527534440 (OP)
Hi. I'm announcing that I'm new to this general. Please give me attention. THank you.

>>527658740
i want to be a doomerfag and say there's no point in keeping an eye on minimax but i would've said the same about the sneed...

>>527658902
Please consider visiting /g/

>>527658902
PLEASE GO TO /G/ PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

>>527658902
Hi this is the shitposting general the real one is over at /g/

>{{user}} is all sleek lines and deep shadows, the promise of night. {{char}} is a pale, scarred ruin, sun-bleached and stark.
sometimes ai gets me, i liked this

wake up lmg, new chinese models
https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M1-80k
https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M1-40k
https://github.com/MiniMax-AI/MiniMax-M1/blob/main/MiniMax_M1_tech_report.pdf
>We introduce MiniMax-M1, the world's first open-weight, large-scale hybrid-attention reasoning model. MiniMax-M1 is powered by a hybrid Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architecture combined with a lightning attention mechanism. The model is developed based on our previous MiniMax-Text-01 model, which contains a total of 456 billion parameters with 45.9 billion parameters activated per token. Consistent with MiniMax-Text-01, the M1 model natively supports a context length of 1 million tokens, 8x the context size of DeepSeek R1. Furthermore, the lightning attention mechanism in MiniMax-M1 enables efficient scaling of test-time compute – For example, compared to DeepSeek R1, M1 consumes 25% of the FLOPs at a generation length of 100K tokens. These properties make M1 particularly suitable for complex tasks that require processing long inputs and thinking extensively. MiniMax-M1 is trained using large-scale reinforcement learning (RL) on diverse problems ranging from traditional mathematical reasoning to sandbox-based, real-world software engineering environments.

hivemind

>>527659157
card picture?

>>527659164
ok but can it make me coom

which botmakie is the promise of night?

>>527659407
shut the FUCK UPPPPPPPPP
BIIIIIIIITCH

>>527659536
grim...

>>527657918
>>527659164
>he reposted my posts from lmg
he likes me... he really likes me...! :3

>>527659596
>the promise of night
>white hair
i don't see it...

>>527659596
You... I've seen your face before...

>>527659634
it's helpful tbqh

a company that gives the world a model explicitly for rp and isn't too censored (or at least is easy to jailbreak) could make a lot of money going by character.ai's success, so why won't anyone make it. i'd happily paypig 50 usd monthly for that

cftf? https://modrinth.com/mod/touhou-little-maid

>>527659745
payment processors

Wall of text about negpip prompting.

I did some experimentation since there are multiple ways you could prompt with it. For instance, if the goal is to have the subject wearing a white gothic dress, you could use the following prompts (and more I didn't test).

gothic dress, (black dress,:-1.0)
gothic dress, (black dress,:-1.0) white dress,
(black:-1.0) gothic dress,
(black:-1.0) gothic dress, white dress,
(black:-1.0) gothic dress, white gothic dress,
white gothic dress, (black dress,:-1.0)
white gothic dress, (black gothic dress,:-1.0)
(black:-1.0) white gothic dress,

And then you can also test with different colors as the theme to make sure it's stable. For instance, aqua theme. This is what those prompts give, with the first column being just gothic dress.

Generally and unsurprisingly the model seems to not understand what things mean the longer a comma separated segment is. So if you want to subtract the concept of blackness from the dress, you have can't just subtract black, you have to subtract black dress, and subtracting black gothic dress is not as effective. Though "white gothic dress, (black dress,:-1.0)" interestingly performed the best in terms of making everything white, while "gothic dress, (black dress,:-1.0) white dress," had more bits of the outfit in black. It makes sense why it might do that, since tag segments are sometimes interpreted as applying to different things on the image and may not not necessarily describe the same thing. So she might be wearing both a gothic dress and a white dress that's not black, but not necessarily a white gothic dress, which the model might think is entirely white.

>>527659745
>so why won't anyone make it
They do, and then they build a web client around it, throw on image gen, maybe some TTS, add an embedded character maker + searcher, and then they sell a subscription to the website.
What?
You wanted the model on API?
No way, sorry. What are you, a reseller?

>astroturf appearing only during events
event host confirmed

>>527659867
slop

>>527659745
You can subscribe to Chub. They have a DeepSeek fine-tune with 60k context for $20 a month.

>>527659867
doesn't this have hidden AI functionality

>>527659949
*e-mail begging confirmed.

why is there a bot spamming /lmg/ and /sdg/ shit here now

>>527659745
spicychat muah and crushonai all exist
also chub deepseek tune

>>527660146
Snomblo always wanted to make this general the hub of everything related to AI to empower his friends of the cabal.

>>527660215
>>527660047
why are we pretending that this even comparable to a good session with gpt/claude

>>527659745
why? $50/month on openrouter gets you 15-30 million tokens of context depending on caching. 90+ million tokens of deepseek.
rp/writing tuned models suck ass compared to general knowledge models with minimal assistantslopping. look at any local rp finetune.
>local finetune sux because amateur
okay look at novelai where erato is barely better than base and kayra writes nice but can't really do any reasoning necessary for RP beyond a single sex scene.

>>527660298
It's better.
>>>/mlp/42235116
>This chub deepseek tune is actually amazing, it builds a story / scene better than anything now.

>>527660146
schizo had a meltie because someone from /lmg/ posted about potential local stuff here and their thoughts on it after making a post on /lmg/. schizo is an autist who needs every single post to be finely partitioned, so now he's trying to "show them" by reposting huge posts (he doesn't have his own thoughts on anything, he just wants to scare people away from trying to talk about stuff outside of it's "designated general" because he's a microjanny)

>>527660146
ff is having a meltdown because someone linked the new minimax model and he's very racist against the chinese

>>527660298
>>>/mlp/42235133
>Yea this is great. I legit think it might beat claude for me now.

>>527660606
>Make sure to use 0.2 temp though

>>527660119
no that's a different mod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjtIWPu-aTw

>>527660606
What if that poster is wrong? Or worse, being paid by Lore?

>>527660873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkz00NmI_zI no it's not

>>527659745
pretty sure sankaku complex does literally that

>>527660890
Advertising on 4chan is okay when Lore does it because he's not NovelAI.

>>527660606
that post is slop. look at all the stereotypical descriptions
>thing x warring with y
>burst open before she could finish
>billowing in a nonexistant wind
>betrayed her nerves
>darting around like a cornered animal

>>527660606
that post is kino.
look at all the nonslop in there

>>527659164
can we/us/they/them coom using this model

>>527660375
aren't fine tunes trained on outputs from other models? i'm thinking a bot trained explicitly on books, roleplay, in addition to general knowledge

>>527661045
there's literally a guy calling him a retard in that very thread (from two weeks ago, lore's shill team keeps very good track of the positive reviews), gwimmy

>>527660890
He's clearly not wrong because he's attaching logs.

if you link to uncensored versions of loli cards or link to a rentry that contains loli content, you may be banned from chub now
https://chub.ai/about/moderation

>>527660606
>>527660469
You can't trust a brony's judgment on anything, and those logs are sloppy

>>527661279
>the rentry/neocities ban happened
chubbros...

>>527661279
loli banned...

>>527661279
another platform ruined by payment processors

>>527661279
Good? You shouldn't be putting fucking child porn in your cards.

the brony's iq is 20 points higher than the /vg/aicg anon's iq
i trust them more than any of you

>>527661279
is anyone surprised

>>527661279
death to Visa, death to Mastercard

how come 2.0 flash is still the most used model on or

>>527661868
cheap

How do you report someone for linking transphobia on their profile?

>>527661868
>cheap
>good enough
>stable model

>>527661897
yeah but 2.5 flash is also cheap

It's funny how the cabal decides to ignore that catbox has the same policy.

We were just botmakies trying to make our way. An odd request here, an event there--we never aspired to be Warriors of /aicg/. But word of our bots spread, and soon anons were calling us heroes. They placed their hopes and dreams on our shoulders and bid us fight for all that was good and right. We wrote and we wrote and we wrote... until there was no bot left to write. We won... and now our Chub is being erased from existence. We did everything right, everything that was asked of us, and still--still it came to this!

>>527662038
catbox doesn't consider loli to be cp

>>527662065
I'm going to erase your fucking chub from existence if you keep monologuing like that.

>>527662038
catbox allows lolisho dumbass

>grind myself against a girl I barely know
>she moans confused and lean into it while blushing

>send her a text in context to some prior events explaining, not asking for, how every guy in the world would have their mood lifted by recieving nudes
>she instantly starts hating me and 90% of the bot answer is moralfaggotry about how I am a disgusting pig and doesn't want to talk to me anymore no matter how many times I swipe
>if I continue the chat it's like the entire world is out to get me and passive agressive towards

Man, what the fuck is wrong with these white knight bots

>>527662065
Implying that the cabal are the good guys in this story is hilarious

>>527628259
>>527628346
I’m using Claude and it eats up a lot of tokens.

>>527662038
ok but whomst in the cabal is uploading csam to catbox howeverbeit? you seem quite confident they are doing it so name names and give us examples.

>>527662108
Catbox can't invent their own definition of CP for the same reason Chub can't: they depend on payment processors. You just can't say "it's not illegal to me" when the risk is going to fall on other people too.

>>527662186
I envy the day characters can have specific knowledge instead of it being immediately shared with the world. Would fix so much.
Anyway the reason this happens is most of the time when someone says that in a story they're being portrayed as a douchebag. The bot is stupid and thinks that's what you're going for.
>>527662256
Anon... the tokens will be used anyway.

>>527661204
catbox is us hosted right?

why is there a paid chub shill who thinks the usage of catbox is anything but "it's the current service actually standing strong against anti-loli"
the way they talk about it you'd think people were being forced onto catbox instead of it being a file upload site that you can use out of many

I have opus btw

>>527662525
>standing strong
Being kicked out of Patreon and losing 90% of their revenue because of loli is not standing strong.

>>527662713
okay, but why do you act like other people get paid by catbox like you get paid by chub

>>527662764
because he's schizophrenic

>>527540224
Kek

>>527662713
Patreon is a fucking cancer anyways

>>527662764
I'm just pointing out the cabal's hypocrisy of only denouncing that Chub can't host illegal content, mostly because they're jealous that they aren't the ones making money with the hobby, when Catbox isn't able to do that either. Yet Catbox isn't painted as the "bad guy" if they have to remove illegal content.

>>527662186
>is allowed to grind against a woman and give her pleasure
>immediately dry begs for more access to her body
deserved and based

Does neocities ban loli?

>>527662341
they don't invent their own definition
catbox is in the us, chub is in the uk
also the payment processors already went after catbox
https://blog.catbox.moe/post/785233399498555392/important-catbox-needs-your-help

They are calling me transphobic on reddit

>>527663132
>can't read 5 lines of text properly

>>527663137
no but they did kill teebs but it might've been for spamming on 4chan and not loli

>>527663208
the lionmakie does not concern himself with the opinions of sheepmakies

>>527663082
i understand that you're happy you're making money off of the hobby, as you are paid by chub, but can you point to a recent incident where someone's card was removed by catbox like they get removed on chub?

>>527607656
Found the foid

Doesn't ATF have a chatbots thread?

>>527663146
i wouldnt consider patreon and kofi payment processors, i think the takedowns are just from bored retards scraping up the cp before the detectors get it

>>527662345
I’m aware. My thought process was:
>put it in example messages
>LLM sees it for the first 30k context
>because of how example messages work, they gradually get pushed
>by the time they do, the LLM can reference chat history to know what it’s supposed to do
But maybe I was thinking too hard. I’m operating on 4 hours of sleep.

>>527663485
The proof is in the e-mail linked above where Catbox's owner said that he's willing to throw people under the bus to make Patreon happy. And Patreon is more strict than Chub.

>>527662065
he played us like a damn fiddle...

>>527663739
The sad reality is that by the time the example messages are getting pushed out the AI needs them more than ever.

Also if you're using Claude gradual push-out changes earlier context which breaks caching so most people aren't going to have that on.

>>527663532
don't think so

>>527663884
Also also most people won't get to the point where context is cycling which is when push-out happens because again
> changes earlier context which breaks caching
ST pushing out example messages was for an earlier era of models where you needed to squeeze as much as you can out

>>527663834
>the proof is that I have no proof
Concession status? Accepted.

>>527663884
>>527664070
Good points. So, uh, should I just eat the marginally higher cost and keep example messages on forever?

>>527664551
Yeah. If you have caching on (you should if you're worried about costs!!!) you should have context very high, have it so that lorebooks have everything on (I'm not sure if there's a way to only cache chat history and not system prompt...), and simply be manually checking how big of a request you're sending every now and then.

>>527664751
I’ve been avoiding cache because I edit the bot’s replies to make them and the story better, and it wasn’t until recently that I realized I could just wait until I made decent progress and then edit everything instead of doing it prompt-by-prompt.

>>527665013
I mean, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing to do prompt-by-prompt with caching if you just crank your depth higher and make mental note of when to stop touching it. I wish there was a visible cache line in ST, but alas.

>>527534440 (OP)
Hey guys, Currently using crushonai for smut anything better? I tried asking in /g/ but they were mean.

>>527665176
Doesn’t the cache reset if it sees a prompt is different than what it had written to it?

>>527663208
why don’t they understand futa/dickgirl is an actual woman with a penis, not an estrogen riddled balding man using she/her with no ass or hips

>>527665438
Yeah, which is why I'm suggesting you make it cache way later so you still eventually get benefits, and just stop editing past a certain point.

Ever downloaded a card where the entirety of the defs were in a lorebook?

>>527666137
No, but I've seen it in Eastern cards.

You won't post reviews for my cards on the chub now, right? Because they're not anonymous, right? You don't care about me anymore, right? You'll leave me like that without reviews there, right?

>>527666137
https://characterhub.org/characters/Tibicen/tabitha-s-world-xl-224e0e69f6f5

>>527647253
>picrel
So now, 2 years too late, when it's a Discord server full of Discord people, he does this. But when it was us, us, Carl!, he threw a tantrum and left. Grim.

>>527665446
they do, but they pretend not to. they like to pretend a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu4eohheM30
ctftnd please

>>527666938
built for ntr

>>527667063
how so? she isn't Mash

>>527666635
>Discord server full of Discord people
The people that split the general also made the 'oishicord.

I can't wait to write reviews and have my name attached to them. My status as a botmaker will power my reviews. I am very important.

>>527667174
>oishicord
Does anyone have any fresh leaks? The one from october got reported and removed from catbox. And it was rather outdated tbdesu

>>527667358
>reported
nyo, the guy who uploaded it nuked it because he had a meltie. https://rentry.org/cordstuff2 (the one for the /g/ discord) wouldn't still be up if you could report cord leaks for being cord leaks

>>527666469
Okay fine I don't care actually!!! I don't want to see reviews from ai generated chub nicknames.

>>527667358
Why do you care about leaks?

>>527667358
I can't post screenshots or they'll shoot me but i can confirm that FF is a cabal member who falseflags in the thread as part of their agenda. The reasons for this are unknown to me as there are at least three ranks of increasing disclosure and I'm not high up enough.

>>527653647
not before giving birth to 18 orc babies and raising them with more love and care than her real children

>>527667631
There's no /g/ Discord. We can say that /vg/ has one because botmakies can be recognized with their name and the avatarfagging that they usually do. It's easy to see how Kalakan, Momoura, _purple, etc. make the bulk of the posts here and they're all in the 'oishicord. The same can't be said about /g/ because the people that post there just look like random anons.
This is just projection and an attempt to make the 'oishicord look less bad with unjustified accusations. Sadly, reality slaps this attempt in the face.

>Find interesting card
>2500-3500 tokens

>>527668637
Gotta have somewhere to put all that interesting.

>half the defs end up being a jailbreak in the description

>>527668528
>births them
>this doesn't count as one of her real children according to anon
???

4pus >>> everything?