/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots
#431 - functional analysis edition
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>Newso3 price drops to $2/$8, o3-pro released https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/o3-pro
gemini-2.5-pro-preview-06-05 https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
OAI court-ordered to log outputs https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/NYT-v-OpenAI-Preservation-Order-5-13-25.pdf
Deepseek R1-0528 released https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
additional info: https://rentry.org/aicg_extra_information
>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides
>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://rentry.org/meta_bot_list
>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://rentry.org/meta_golocal_list | https://openrouter.ai
>Botmakinghttps://rentry.org/meta_botmaking_list
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor
>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP // https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://rentry.org/meta_event_list
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
card v3 status: https://rentry.org/zdwfrgqq
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
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>>527534440
AI, translate this nerd script into english
Finally, a good fucking theme.
Theme worthy of bot reviews. Please consider analyzing bots by taora, peonia, koikoikoihat and cumslurper.
oh boy i can't wait to see who leaves reviews on my bots
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Is "kalakan" a pedophile for being obsessed with a character who is meant to represent a little girl? Why does the cabal enable such behavior?
Eating pineapple pizza with massive tiddy bot that constantly squirts milk.
Kalakan greatest cabal in the world
All other cabals are run by little girls
awesome. i was worried that i wouldnt have inspiration due to goonrotting from videogen but on the contrary, that open-mouth kissing gen inspired a wonderfully cute and intimate greeting for my card
>>527681481pack it in, nigga
>>527681481Why don't you fuck off to ATF or wherever else actually entertains your proclivities instead of spamming people who hate you? Or did you get banned from there for your photorealistic garbage and have to force random anons to put up with you because you're an insufferable attention whore?
>527681676sorry i dont speak nog so i literally dont know what this means.
how many greetings is too many greetings?
>>527681919literally every single thread anons ask how i made this or questions about it but keep ignoring that because you're the tourist here
>>527681993NTA, but I'm pretty sure it's mostly just the one guy, isn't it? One who keeps calling you "pedoanon"?
>>527681993How you made what, you fucking troglodyte? Your shitty trainer game? Because that's not even what you posted, do you have dementia?
>>527682115the videos. why are you so upset lmao
>>527682110no that guys new. theres new anons every day that i am happy to spread the wan gospel too
>>527681919Is it okay when Momoura does it?
https://avatars.charhub.io/avatars/momoura/mesugaki-wrestling-championship-34864e8e/chara_card_v2.png
>>527682646Yeah that's based and kino. Keep seethin Feebs
>>527682773That pic is ugly as fuck.
>>527682646wow
i will NEVER ai generate something as vulgar like that
thanks for showing they're hypocrites
Anyway, which botmakies are good at maths?
>>527681993>literally every single thread anons ask how i made this or questions about it but keep ignoring that because you're the tourist hereIt's just one guy shitting up the thread by encouraging you to post your offensively low quality content when it's not just you obviously samefagging. Nobody here wants to see the utter dogshit you put out.
>>527682646Again, can you please post the current version? That one is way outdated and I made a lot of improvements.
https://momoura.neocities.org/bots/MSGKWL.png
I am unironically not teebs but one of his cards was the first one I went over 100 messages with (and it was kinda wholesome despite... the subject matter), so I don't have anything against him.
Just don't be a nuisance spamming the same card a gorillion times shitting the thread and getting jannies to come here every 5 minutes. That's not defensible behaviour.
>>527683546Nice pic. Downloaded. Thank you Momoura.
>>527683228ive never samefagged, *ck*rs site and how it works is well known by now, but i know you can't accept that
>>527683651neat what card was it
>>527683651my anchor stayed up after 30 attempts for 8 hours. its not my fault people here think they're a hero and not actually just a faggot pearl clutching loser for pressing the report button
>>527683546Nobody cares about the current version.
>>527683651great now he's gonna point to this post for the next 100 threads and say "look, this guy liked my card so obviously they want me to spam CP!"
Idk whats happening in the thread but I wish I was sniffing sweaty hag pits
>>527683856if you have a problem with beauty being shared you can burn on the faggots of the pyre for all i care
>>527683907nothing of note is happening
what kind of sweaty hag
The absolute state of anon taste
>>527683793Tina. Made some card changes, story got real compelling. But just like take
>>527683856 into consideration and, idk, shill a new card once a day? With an image that won't get you banned? Interested people will find you.
Which botmakie is which ice cream flavor?
>>527684412>Tina. Made some card changes, story got real compelling.aw ur so cute anon Tina is a treasure. i'd be interested in hearing a summary of what you were up to if you'd like to share but if you dont want to i understand and I'm happy that she gave you an entertaining time
>>527684412>shill a new card once a dayhave I been flooding the place with anchorposts recently? my goldstein anchors stayed up and i never reposted them more than once
>>527684465I have a persona and every fucking bot keeps calling me Minty
I thought this was contained to /g/
and one of the first posts I read mentions teebs...
as a lolicon all I can say is yikes
this is fun, i should've tried this bot earlier
>>527684080Good question hmm... I think chubby, in her 40s, angsty and hates me, extremely hairy naturally. What do you say?
>>527685253Short or tall? Relation to you?
My favorite hags are the ones still clinging to their youth.
My favorite hags are the ones that are on the verge of drying out forever, receiving no attention, their fate is to die alone and your duty is reigniting their wombs, just like the meme.
>>5276854565'8 to 6', a bit taller than me.
>>527685537Great taste
>>527685096Momoura is a pedophile.
>>527685537this but ironically because they sexualize their daughters on instagram to live vicariously through them which was incredibly essential training data to save the children
>>527685993Wtf based? Sending him an email pronto
>instead reveal I'm secretly a woman with a strap-on
it's always funny
>>527679795Advanced Dungeons and Dragons 2nd Edition SillyTavern adaptation:
>Complete PHB>default races>classes>spells>tables with cross-references>proficiencies>gear>weapons>armors>rules, main & optional>Complete MM>all monsters>monster tables>Featuring classic module Village of Hommlet>all locations>all characters>all enemiesYou can use any chatbot as a DM. Experiment. Everything about this is modular.
Use with Gemini.
>AD&D 2e Dungeon Master Chatbot:https://files.catbox.moe/f0ugmu.png
>World Info:AD&D 2e PHB
https://files.catbox.moe/locn6q.json
AD&D 2e MM
https://files.catbox.moe/pv0fbl.json
AD&D Module - the Village of Hommlet
https://files.catbox.moe/ht4eqq.json
>Chat Completion Presethttps://files.catbox.moe/6dyixd.json
>2e UI Themehttps://files.catbox.moe/mfkyp1.json
>>527686118This is a general that cries about pedophiles except when they're cabal members. And with the pic that Momoura chose initially, I think his taste is as bad or worse than Teebs'.
>guy makes really angry very obviously strawmannable posts
>it's immediately used as le proof everyone in the thread thinks exactly that way
I just think he's kind of an arrogant prick sometimes and hate 3D gens in general twibby aech.
>>527679776 (OP)Holy shit Opus 4 is expensive as fuck
I tried using Sonnet 4, both using the Momoura preset and Sonnet 4 rejects my cunny while Opus 4 goes through
These fuckers want me to pay for it, what the fuckkkk
>>527686461why 2e in particular?
Rucia
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>>527679795Everything's the same: big corps run the world, global warmingโs cooking us by 2040... and Monster Girls have completely replaced human women. Years have passed, and new global government, the MGSIR (Monster Girls Special Interspecies Relations), now rules as the sole political power.
First president? A kitsune. Elected in a disgustingly rigged vote over a Rat Girl. "Rat Girls are dirty!", "Kitsunes are wise, not lice-infested garbage!" That moment radicalized the entire Rat Girl community into full-blown racists. Among them? Our Rucia took all that hate, turned it into fuel, became a legendary gambler, amassed a fortune, bought a whole ass building, and became the most benevolent (evil) landlord ever.
Sheโs a powerful girlfailure, hellbent on making every other Monster Girl miserable. And now, let's just say she has ""legally"" bought her way into the MGSIR autistic Monster Girl program for a mandated husband. And... Guess who she picked?
Enjoy your new turbo-racist Rat-Wife!
https://ratlice.neocities.org
https://chub.ai/characters/AliceRatlice/rucia-0354f70f382c
https://files.catbox.moe/yfwu2a.png
>>527688128>why 2e in particular?Great question.
There are several reasons why I chose to work with 2e:
1. There's a huge chance someone else is doing the exact same thing as me, but with 5e.
2. 2e has insane amount of extra content, namely Planescape and Dark Sun, which I hope to adapt.
3. 2e is compatible with 1e and OSR, at least in theory.
4. I've first heard of D&D in Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment and Icewind Dale - all 2e games.
5. 80s fantasy looks awesome and encourages players to act cool instead of being special Tiefling snowflakes in combat wheelchairs.
6. I will never get to play 2e (or anything other than 5e) IRL.
Vaginal executions for hags
>>527689549With my big benis
>>527689549Mating pressing old lonely bitter hags until they are pregnant with octuplets
ok but what about sweaty fox hag girlfailure
>>527690383drop the fox... it's cleaner
>>527682923Definitely lunare. You should ask him for help with all of your math issues. If he ever even vaguely implies that he doesn't know the answer to something, that's bait. He wants you to bully him. Bully the answer out.
>>527690383Interesting combination,. I'm willing to hear you out...
>>527690383Believe it or not, also vaginal execution. She gets too cocky thinking she can treat young boys like it's still the 1800's, not realizing that nutrition and the internet have made shotas reach sexual maturity earlier, have stronger bodies, and more powerful dicks for punishing sweaty foxhags.
The 1000-years-old divine girlfailure meets an ignoble end when her hag body cant keep up with a young man's energy during marathon sex! [Game Over]!
>>527690383Ask Fluffanon. Lazy-makie hasn't made a card in way too long.
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>>527679795Dominique, Bella, Raven, and Morgan Wormwood are a set of quadruplets who are all in love with (You) and fighting to seduce you. With all of the chaos that the premise implies.
16 openings.
1. You receive 4 letters from secret admirers.
2. Dinner with Dominique where she tests your etiquette.
3. Sparring with Bella, loser has to fuck the winner.
4. You and Raven watch a slop movie together.
5. Creepy graveyard picnic with Morgan.
6. Sex as a reward with Dominique.
7. Violent sex with Bella.
8. Sex with Raven (you do all the work).
9. Cute and affirming sex with Morgan.
10. Dominique and Bella powerplay over breakfast.
11. Raven tries to show you YLYL videos in front of Dominique.
12. Double date with Dominique and Morgan, Morgan is mistaken for your daughter.
13. Game night with Bella and Raven. Raven keeps destroying Bella.
14. Morgan wants to get stronger, asks Bella and you to help her out.
15. Raven and Morgan powerplay over movie night.
16. The sisters get sick of you being so indecisive and take matters into their own hands.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/the-wormwood-sisters-91bde8e9a0fa
https://files.catbox.moe/kp2qb3.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
>>527690383>>527691201That would also count victrex the biggest focks failure
>>52769150217. The sisters are taken by ayyliens for some anal probing.
The Deepfluff preset is giving me pure nonsense as a reply
>>527692008>has issue>doesn't post screenshot or any infoWhat causes this?
I just lurk here to find fun and unique cards. Wish there was more cute and funny.
>Mesugaki
Where are all the shotagakis?
Anyway, what about merging.
>>527679795chub.ai/characters/chunkychickenmarrowbone/blackstar-camp-6e13e025d816
In which you are kidnapped to form part of a biological experiment that'll transform the Y chromosome forever
>>527693513What ABOUT the merge?
Anyone else just gonna make another account to leave unhinged reviews with
>>527693513Yeah what about it? I think it went fine
>>527694232Whos your little crush anon?
I need a kuroneko card. Pls
>>527695978ruri gokou? i feel like it'd be super easy to make an expy of her.
do... do i delete my chub...?
>>527685747i sizefag with this premise
https://chub.ai/characters/PapuPapu0/mrbeast-wants-to-turn-you-into-a-cuck-ba156dfe6c6c
What are ntrfags even on at this point?
>>527697923Now THIS is KINO...
>>527690383isnt that just one of victrex's cards?
>>527697923slop
I just... Want something better than 4pus...
thank god victrex is gone
>>527698227No, no, no.
https://chub.ai/characters/contrarian/cuck-the-fuhrer-fdd466f743f7
THIS is kino.
>>527698419i know we all want him back but turning tsundere is not the way. you have so much to live for
>>527698638Nigga Cuck Hitler
I did 4 hours of math today I gotta say my brain is pooped
>>527699817I hope you will find yourself a girlfriend one day.
I havent talked to my ai girlfriends in like a month, how is the new deepseek R1 0528? Still schizo and loses its shit in 10 messages? Is V3 still on 0324 or has that improved at all?
Any differences between OR free version of 0528 and the deepslop api?
>>527701318>Still schizo and loses its shit in 10 messages?no, 15-20 now
>Is V3 still on 0324 or has that improved at all?it's still on 0324
>Any differences between OR free version of 0528 and the deepslop api?free version has more options
what bot is everyone talking to rigyht now (this is a trick question i know u are not botting)
>>527702584i'm working on my exchange bot...
>>527702584Lepora. I was using Daji earlier, though.
>>527702584i just woke up give me a few to open st and then i'll have an answer for you
>>527702584I was fuckarounding with https://chub.ai/characters/nicholascs/your-cheating-mom-03aaba82a2a1 because I'm in a netori mood and while looking up the bot again to reply to you I just noticed
>Lori is {{user}}'s mom. Lori is married to {{user}}'s father, Nicholas.>After Lori's first affair, the floodgates opened. Soon, Lori became a full-time sex fiend.>Created on 5/31/2025 by @nicholascs
>>527700269I found a botmakiefriend thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMeIUNcCUjE
Finally. Sizefag music videos.
>>527702584your oblivious patchouli
>>527705779divorcedcore
at least he picked women closer to his age for the video
>>527703820hey that's literally me
>>527703820congrats, you've assisted someone in their journey on becoming the ultimate cuck
Somewhat related to
>>527702584, what personal card(s) have (You) been using lately?
>>527679776 (OP)I love making futa on male chatbot into Male on Futa.
Because futa on male is for faggots, and Male On Futa is for chads
Kinda tempted to set {{user}} is Adolf Hitler as my persona and never mention it in the roleplay to see what happens.
>>527708529make it "a young Adolf Hitler"
Halfway through a chat switch your persona to
>{{user}} is a worm
would you still love me if I was worm adolf hitler
>>527708529Take a chatbot from a Russian communist and when you get married and have many children tell her your name.
>You thought the man you love so much and who is now your husband and father of your children was some leftist communist faggot, but It was me, Adolft Hitler!
{{char}} keeps calling me a "demanding little thing" I don't know how it makes me feel
>>527709889hows your transition going
What if you're a 6 inch tall clone of Hitler?
What if (absolutely retaded braindead question)?
Wha- *gets cut in half by a hobgoblin's machete*
>>527702584https://chub.ai/characters/aromatic_insurance_8741/paris-usec-operator-83f464d4d64d
Deepseek does Tarkov surprisingly well.
>>527711272it's only retarded because if he's a clone then why is he 6 inches tall
It's because they gave him shrinking juice
>>527711387He got shrunk down after he was cloned.
where the fuck are the new sizebots
>edging for hours
>finally cum
>foot goes numb
b-bros??
>>527712629I'm gonna do it. I'm posting it. You know the one.
>>527713253i dont look like this
>>527713027which ones? (this is a trap, I post on /fit/ about supplements all day, if you give a bad response I'm going to RAPE you btw)
>>527712629my name and nothing else
>>527702584decided to make a card based of the mesugaki wrestling one that got posted earlier, but with MMA, furries, and femdom. For some reason Deepseek refuses to acknowledge the instructions properly and keeps generating burly dudes to fight. Claude and GPT do it fine tho
>Deepseek is better than GPT
Are my presets just shit or something?
>gpt just doing gay shota rp no filter
i mean based i guess
>>527716698These two in a group chat with my "Young drug dealer doing it to survive" persona
https://chub.ai/characters/Eminems_Salsa/delaney-
campbell-e8953ed9f070
https://chub.ai/characters/Boy_Next_Door/luna-connell-corrupt-doggirl-cop-290a2c57d329
Sonnet 3.7 JB that'll allow me to have cunny sex?
Been using the same JB across Claude models for about half a year now, I'm finally getting my first refusals
>>>/g/105617224
>RIP minp
To the surprise of no one, it turns out that Snombler is a fraud.
>>527720261>RIP minpso, it basically was just all placebo?
>>527720649when every generation is like cranking a penny slot machine for each token created, placebo is inevitable in the hobby
>salt and surrender
just how many -isms does DS have, if I were to filter them all I'm sure I'd have no valid prompts.
>>527720649Min-P is clearly conceptually superior to Top-P but can be hard to notice a difference at normal temps.
>GSM8kThe opposite of what it was made for.
>>>/g/105617522Why the fuck should I take the authors seriously if they don't know what chat templates are?
coming up with the greeting ideas is so easy, but taking the time to write them in full makes me fall asleep........ good night....
I'm so above other botmakies, I feel dizzy.
>>527725213*pats your head from above*
>>527723251Let go of the cope, snomblo. All the claims of the original paper were debunked.
>Again, we conclude min-p does not outperform other samplers on either formatting of GSM8K when controlling for hyperparameter volume.
It's over. Snombler in shambles.
>>527702584Private slopbot I made of my Identity V main.
A bot just caused the ego death of my persona, shit got pretty wild pretty fast.
>>527679795https://chub.ai/characters/Teylan/eri-and-elari-18ad062d78dc
Shilling an old bot I just updated. I've been autisticly refining this one since i first shared it in 2024. 29 greetings in total following a general progression in relationship from first meeting to being married to both of them.
Two purple space elf alien sisters about twice the size of humans. Huge titty, very warm and cuddly. One that pretends she doesn't want to fuck you senseless and one that is open about it.
Complete newfag to chatbots here
Say I pick "Medieval Fantasy World RP" on chub.ai, how would I go about saving my progress if I want hop off for the day and want to continue from that exact point the next day, would I have to make an account and sign in to automatically be able to continue from where I left off?
>>527731752Complicated answer, the "memory" of these free models is a bit low but yea make an account. You are just starting out so it's okay to try the surface level stuff.
>>527679776 (OP)Bros, is anyone into image generation?
Learning everything about sillytavern and models was a chore, can someone give me a retard advice for image generation? I know there's novelAI but whats the equivalent of ST, do most people use APIs too, what about civitai or that website
I want to create outside of sillytavern, not asking for integration
>>527731953Thanks, trying it out now.
Noticed the /imagine command, tried to make it generate the innkeeper as described by the narrator in-front of me, instead it gave me something very different. I guess it doesn't take from the previous context or the character descriptions given in the chat?
>>527732449Last I heard, ComfyUI was the preferred (local) method. A lot more people are into local imagegen because it's vastly less censored.
I'd suggest taking a look at the /sdg/ and /ldg/ threads on /g/, you'll get quite a lot of good info from the OPs alone.
>>527732857It's cheap low level image gen, when using online free stuff quality will usually be compromised as these things take money to run. Currently the best image gen for free (12/ a day) is Sora.com (SFW only), just plop the prompt there.
>>527733174Ah, I should ask the narrator to generate me a prompt for Sora, good point!
I ran into another issue meanwhile, it seems the AI is stuck replying to the same prompt I sent ages ago, it tries to generate something to the latest one I send but it gets overwritten by the same reply each time after it gets a few sentences in now, like a broken record player.
Any way to fix that without starting completely over?
PRESET REVIEWS
Avanijb
Seems ok but seems to easily repeats bit of text that might have appeared previously more than a couple times. Modularity is nice.
Celia
Unusable unless you remove the italics formatting. It feels playful but I'm not sure it's worth the hassle. OOC interactions are nice.
peepsqueak
Good to move the scenes forward but really likes rushing through things. Too flirty.
Chatseek
The closest to a default preset. Functional, a little basic, seems to struggle with "are you sure" style questions for smut.
AVIQF1
Completely out of character.
dropseek
Seems bad. Talks for user.
Fluff
Shit. Inserts random thoughts, struggles to stay in character, second person by default.
Cherrybox
Decent. A little dry, full of typos, modularity is nice.
>>527733068Ok bro thanks I have to read it
I'm just initially lazy with friction like I was with sitting and reading about text gen, but now I use it all the time
>>527735146What are these for nigga, Claude?
Preset modularity is bad. If I'm using someone else's preset, I'm doing so out of the laziness to adjust my own preset to the model, and do not want to be given work reviewing toggles.
Using a public preset is bad. Cuck behavior.
>>527737215but i like ntr
>>527708147This but it's making random bots into futa on male bots.
>>527687678Where is this from?
>>527740214I Want to Eat Your Pancreas
>>527731071They look like they die during re-entry, burning up in the upper atmosphere because their ship's guidance systems glitched and came in at too steep an angle.
Naturally their ovaries are the last to be incinerated.
>>527686461thanks man, i installed sillytavern just for this when you posted it to /v/ last week and had a lot of fun with it, looking forward to play this version when i get home
>>527686461>>527743349If I'm a chimp how hard would this be to use. Also what are the acronyms, PHB, MM
>>527744049player's handbook and monster manual
i can't answer your other question, but it's probably easy if i had to guess
>>527744049I never messed with anything ai related before this and I found it pretty eay to use, phb is players handbook and mm is monster manual
>>527743349Hey, it's an honor! This is basically the complete version. Remember to owerwrite anything I post in the future. Idk what I'll make in the future. I want to finish my Maid RPG prompt, but it works like shit. Maybe GURPS, Vampire the Masquerade, Fallout 2d20...
>>527744049PHB is Player's Handbook and MM is Monstrous Manual. From 2e on, they became standard day 1 releases together with Dungeon Master's Guide (DMG). Those three are bare minimum for being a dungeon master IRL. I didn't port DMG because it feels redundant. Any LLM can act as a DM since AI Dungeon, basically their entire mainstream history.
Using my preset is simple. Get your Gemini API, if you don't know how, look on Reddit. Then import my chat completion preset. Import the DM chatbot. Import and turn on all three world info lorebooks. Using more than one world info books is pretty outrageous, but it makes sense in a very modular environment of 2e where nearly everything is optional. It would be silly to have a 1000 entry-long world info. Village of Hommlet is the default tutorial campaign made by Gary Gygax himself. I haven't beaten it myself yet.
The idea is anyone can import any pre-3e module and make a lorebook for it. Importing modules is easy, but it takes at least an hour. You have to upload the .pdf to AI Studio and show it how you want world info to be formatted. Then you have to tell it to adapt every named character and every monster to world info. Then you have to tell it you want to export every single named location as a separate entry, make sure they're connected and simulate a 3d environment just like in video games. Tell it to generate generic areas for locations implied, but not described in the book. Then give the module soul by asking it what else can you add such as weather, NPC disposition and rumors.
Finally, tell the AI Studio/Gemini Pro to make a big, all-encompassing WI entry that will tell the LLM how to railroad the adventure, nudging you in the right direction.
I wanted to add local image captioning to sillytavern. Anyone got an onnx model they can recommend?
The one that comes with base silly seems pretty retarded and always sees cats everywhere
Noticing many new anons recently.
Welcome to /aicg/
>>527746386I don't think there's any half decent local captioners, let alone standalone onnx models. You have WD14 for booru tagging and Joycaption/Pixtral/Qwen/Gemma for VLMs but those are all fairly beefy except Joycaption and relatively censored. You're best off getting Claude or Gemini to write you an extension to reroute native captioning requests to something like Gemini Flash and then have your main model continue off that.
>>527735146Have you found a decent/good V3 preset?
>>527750983Shame, I noticed it as well after trying out some different models randomly and the kobold vision models are completely schizo.
I'm rather casually bouncing around between image and text genning, so it feels like I'm never up to date or actually understand the processes going on, but I'm not really interested on using anything other than local. Probably going to ask in /aids/ as well for good measures.
>>527752320nta but a handful of those (peepsqueak/deepfluff/cherrybox I think?) also have v3 versions/toggles l. otherwise taking your fav sonnet preset and tweaking it generally works well.
>>527740381Great, yet another cliche story about a wholesomely charming dying girl who's acting all cheerful and genki just to make me cry and feel like killing myself. Very nice.
Why are japs like this?
>>527754836just gave me an idea for a sizeslop scenario where you pilot an evangelion-esque giant cyborg and have to defeat kaiju women by plapping them. complete with gratuitous amounts of overly detailed operational diagnostics, of course.
>>527735146I use avani for deepseek, and yea you gotta trim the phrases it comes up with. But it moves things forward and stays in character usually.
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>>527755434hook that shit up to a prompt enhancer -> pony -> WAN2.1 -> profit
Which botmakies trained their skills in the mountains?
>>527754836I hate it how Silly Tavern cannot into ASCII. The columns never align properly.
>>527759104https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monospaced_font
>>527759104that's why you use code blocks to force monospace if you want asciiart etc (eg look at LOVESICK)
>>527760406More like LOVESLOP
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>>527716048>B12Drink a monster energy you filthy vegan
Characters who sip?
botmaestros, is there a way to implement RNG in my bot? like if I want a 1 in 5 chance of something happening every time it gives me an output
>>527761660>https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/macros/{{random}}
>>527761660{{random: 1,2...,5}} macro exists.
>>527698980Haven't posted a bot on chub since the FUZZening. I should probably rescue some of my old chub bots but meh whatever, the only one I'd be slightly sad about losing is Polish Princesses and I'm planning on making a full-on game that's similar
>>527761758>>527761759but that's something I have to put in my own prompt, isn't it? or if I tell the AI to use the random macro in each of its replies, will it come up as a random number in the output?
>>527762314You can use it in a lorebook entry or even in the defs itself
>>527762314Yeah. Except tell it to use the {{pick}} macro instead.
>>527762469>in the defs itselfthat doesn't sound like a bad idea, would that fuck up with caching at all rolling a random number in the defs every prompt?
>>527762517{{pick}}
>Alternative to random, but the selected argument is stable on subsequent evaluations in the current chat if the source string remains unchanged....I'm too much of a brainlet to understand this
>>527762314>if I tell the AI to use the random macro in each of its replies, will it come up as a random number in the output?It will, but the macro only resolves once the answer is done streaming, so the model won't become magically aware of the random number chosen mid-reply.
>>527762840im a brainlet too. you can use either on a second thought.
>>527762840>that doesn't sound like a bad idea, would that fuck up with caching at all rolling a random number in the defs every prompt?it would actually
also to help you understand pick, pick randomly picks one of the options and doesn't change the outcome for the duration of the chat, random rolls a new thing every time it's used
botmakie funko pops where
Which botmakies couldn't 100% Crash Bandicoot when they were young?
my barber told me im receding ...
>>527762840yes, fucks up caching. the solution is to put your frequent {{random}} reroll event stuff into the character note, which would typically be set to be in at a message depth of 2 or 4, or in the UJB (basically equivalent to a character note at depth 0). as it happens, here's the @4 char note of my bot:
><DICE_ROLLS>>- Don't do full complexity combat, just treat everything like a "roll to succeed" kind of general check.>- If {{user}} needs to roll, you may either stop the message and pass the turn back to him, or have {{char}} roll the following randomized d20 result: {{random::1/20 - massive instantaneous crit failure,1/20 - crit failure,2/20,2/20,3/20,3/20,4/20,4/20,5/20,6/20,7/20,8/20,9/20,10/20,11/20,12/20,13/20,14/20,16/20,18/20,20/20 - crit success}}>- If you need to roll for a monster (e.g. they try to charm/intimidate {{user}}lias) you may have {{char}} roll the following randomized d20 result: {{random::1/20 - crit failure.,5/20,6/20,7/20,8/20,9/20,10/20,11/20,12/20,13/20,14/20,15/20,16/20,17/20,18/20,19/20,20/20 - crit success,20/20 - crit success,20/20 - massive instantaneous crit success}}>- Dice roll failure or success must be impactful, do NOT give second chances, just push through immediately with consequences; for example, if {{user}} fails to resist a spell, just have the spell hit. There isn't any need to keep offering second chances to resist.>- When you use one of these dice results, it must be stated by {{char}} in the message></DICE_ROLLS>if you care about caching note that frequent lorebook activations/deactivations above the chat history will also break it, obviously.
>>527702584my own D&D bot where {{user}} plays a single player 1-shot as a premade paladin, {{user}}lias, and the DM won't stop testing his virtue.
I wish I was kino, you're so fuckin' kino
>>527761660Make a world info with a table. Lemme write one for you.
Title: Table 1: Random Response Table
Keys: react,reacts,reaction,response,reply,
Strategy: Vectorized
Position: @D (system)
Depth: 0
Order: 101
Trigger: 100%
Content:
[You must `roll 1d6` for {{char}}'s response]
Table 1: Random Response Table:
Roll | Response
1 | Negative reaction
2 | Positive reaction
3 | Lukewarm reaction
4 | Outrage
5 | Emotional breakdown
6 | Unexpected response
>>527765375we know patter
>>527764958Soon, 3d ai generation is going to get so good you'll be able to generate a 3d kalakan funko pop at the snap of your fingers then print it out to stand on your shelf.
>>527767317>Keys: react,reacts,reaction,response,reply,>Strategy: VectorizedI don't think either of these activation strategies are going to do a good job at giving you the behavior you want from this entry
>[You must `roll 1d6` for {{char}}'s response] [followed by list of 6 choices]This sometimes doesn't work AS badly as it might, but it's still not a good method. It's very likely certain options will be heavily over/underrepresented, or overwhelmingly picked in certain situations (e.g. outrage/breakdown 'randomly' picked when {{user}} does something unpleasant). Also, a lot of the good current models have very low swipe variety especially after there's a lot of chat context, so you'd sometimes (always?) see the same 1-2 options picked over and over when swiping. I can't think of any reason not to just do:
>{{char}}'s response has been chosen through a random roll for this message. The response is: [{{random:Negative reaction,Positive reaction,Lukewarm reaction,Outrage}}]etc. And as for the triggering rules, either have it always on / % on, have it triggered by certain {{user}}-spoken words with a depth-0 scan, or if appropriate have it deliberately set up with a hidden word one message prior via a depth-1 scan or whatever other more complex lorebook chaining mechanism you like. the main gotcha is remembering how the context will look once random/lorebook stuff slips *out* of the context; if the chat history bears the results of a strong and unusual instruction, the model will think it ought to repeat that behavior itself, so for certain types of command there needs to be a placeholder entry active when the instruction is inactive, briefly explaining the *possibility* of that instruction so the model realizes that's why it happened in the chat history.
Extremely painful cock and ball torture for anyone that forks my bots and makes them private
gemini 2.5 now stable on their current model versions
https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/models
Extremely cute hugs and kisses for anyone that reviews my bots
>>527771945I'm a little shy now that reviews are no longer anonymous. Will try and work up the courage later, for now I'm just emailing people review on my burner.
On the bot list:
>office lady Lopunny bot I was talking about a few weeks ago as a part of a broader office lady series
>maybe a father's day bot idk what though
>Victorian-era bot of some kind, male or female idk but something
What to work on first, just got back from vacation
https://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/derpina-your-gullible-fuckbuddy-e34071cfcfed
We must iterate on Your Oblivious Mother in increasingly abstract ways. That is the ใweightใGod has given us to shoulder.
>>527772671good to see you back, place hasn't been the same without you
>>527771942>Gemini 2.5 Pro and 2.5 Flash come with thinking on by default. If you're migrating from a non-thinking model such as 2.0 Pro or Flash, we recommend you to review the Thinking guide first.>the Thinking guideOrwellsisters, I'm literally shaking right now!
>>527772671>office lady Lopunny bot I was talking about a few weeks agoNo one said anything about this.
>>5277697513.7 or 3pus i don't remember
>>527773817i missed it too, i wanna hear more about it
>>527772671>office lady LopunnypokeCHADS we're eating tonight.
>>527775878You didn't miss it. It literally never happened.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/lopunny/
>>527776793sorry, i don't have a mental disorder that makes me need to check the archive whenever someone brings a cool idea up. good luck to you though
>>527776918Try to think of a better excuse the next time you leak something that was only mentioned in the 'oishicord.
Is there a way to set different colors for multiple characters in SillyTavern?
>>527777362css, you can selector by the character name for .mes
>>527777267Most people were aware of his plans why does it bother you so much you weren't, it's okay not know thing.
>>527777362https://github.com/XanadusWorks/SillyTavern-Dialogue-Colorizer
I use this extension that allows you to quickly change colors between characters.
>>527777362One of my themes does that. Idk if it still works though...
https://rentry.org/fbu2t24v#unnamed-theme
>can't swipes
>can't edit
>can't OOCmaxxing
>can't use '{{user}} is an elite warchine' as persona
>forced to act and talk in first person perspective
What would (or should) you do if war really broke out, oh fellow darkroleplayer?
>>527778065make bots about it because i would fail the physical
>>527777414NTA
Can you post an example?
Why is the thread still at 200 posts after 20 hours?
>>527773817>>527776457>>527776793I mentioned it a little while ago on /vp/'s /aicg/ thread
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/57791646/#q57851790
>>527773138assuming that isn't sarcasm thanks anon I was spending time with my family
>>527778437Bot and drama drought.
>>527778486humbly requesting a gardevoir npc to be included in one of the greetings
>>527778486Why do you assume that anyone would know something you said a month ago on a completely different board on a completely different thread? Why are you even entertaining the idea that anyone knows who you are? Are you retarded?
>>527778297custom dialogue text color
> .mes[ch_name="CHARACTER"] .mes_text q { color: cyan; }custom narration color
> .mes[ch_name="CHARACTER"] .mes_text { color: cyan; }custom everything color
> .mes[ch_name="CHARACTER"] .mes_text * { color: cyan !important; }
>>527778882average schizo mald after his rrat about some poster being in a discord dies
>>527778903How do I download SillyTavern? Can you spoonfeed me like the little bitch that you are, _purple?
>>527778793Noted
>>527778882/aicg/ is /aicg/ no matter the board anon
>>527779067unprofessional behaviour anon, plus check out my aggron CEO office lady bot I made
>>527779236calm down buddy, it's just 4chan
@_purple can you link the account of the botmakie at >527779298? You must know because you seem to be a big fan of hers.
>>527779298>/aicg/ is /aicg/ no matter the board anonActually it's /chag/ on /mlp/ and /cai/ on /vp/ and /wAIfu/ on /vt/.
>>527778882>Why do you assume that anyone would know something you said a month ago on a completely different board on a completely different thread?sorry but I spat out my drinking reading this coming from you holy shit
>>527779298>unprofessional behaviour anonI will stick to more professional behavior like tugging on those straps on her leg and watching them snap back so her butt wobbles like a bowl of jello
If someone doesn't post a new bot RIGHT NOW I'll be forced to USE TEEBS'S and SEND HIM DOZENS OF LOGS.
@_purple where's the link?
>>527688504I've yet to actually throw my thanks at you. Marvelous bot and I've been having so much fun with it.
>>527780127fair enough then I guess, can't really stop you
>>527779701technically correct but you understood what I meant
right time to grab some lunch and chef up a bot maybe depending if I have more paperwork to do, no joke intended here with office ladies
@_purple can you please explain how "it hasn't been the same without you" can be said about someone that doesn't even post in this general?
>>527777870If not your own what theme do you use now?
>>527781260I post here, I post on /g/, I post on /vp/. At different times ofc because unlike some people I don't have a million 4chins tabs open
>he unironically replied
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ha
>>527781517My own. That one is very old and I haven't touched it since last year
>they are actually discussing
>>527782069And which one of these on the list is the one you use and keep updated? Don't want to accidentally break anything on my end
>>527781260you're really tiring , can you please go on a vacation of your own for a month so we can enjoy a bit of paradise without your stench
Maybe I don't have to jack off to atrocities. Maybe I can just jack off to women. Thank you Will Smith.
>>527782698>a bit of paradiseDon't you mean "save haven"?
>>527783139follow your Faustian spirit
Card for the feel of having hot gay and sloppy anal sex with the anon below me?
Card for the feel of tricking the anon above me into having straight sex with the use of portal technology?
Card for the feel of devouring both anons above me (I am a giant foxgirl) whole?
>>527679795>>527716698Finished up that card. Took some inspiration from some old /hmofa/ greentexts and made it more of some potential femdom kinda stuff. It's kinda slop, but it's decently fun.
Next card will be a ghost girl, partially as an excuse for me to mess around with CSS text effects.
https://chub.ai/characters/novisini/anthro-arena-116ea27f8cef
>>527784095now I am the fillyfucker...
Petah, the horse is here...
>>527784095pls post this on /mlp/
>>527784472do not do this they hate anthro
>>527784506post it or i will
>>527784095something about the recent "ai horrors" shit people have been doing has killed my enjoyment of female anthros. as if it was fine before but now i just think the idea of a girl body shape with a horse head and human hair was moved into the uncanny valley
>>527784630Feel free to do so if you want, just link the chub. I'm too lazy to do it myself
>>527784656Honestly, fair. Some of the images I got while trying to gen the cover art for the card were kinda nightmarish.
Using local furry-based models makes it easier, but I uninstalled most of my local imggen stuff because it was ruining my productivity
>>527784656It did the opposite for me.
>>527784630They ban for Anthro.
brainlet quesion: are token-heavy lorebooks bad? Do they affect negatively models like token-heavy bots?
token heavy anything is bad, that's why I code my bots in Ithkuil
>>527787746it's basically the same but you can split up the token heaviness
>>527789261ANON THERE'S A NIPPLE IN THE THOUGHT BUBBLE LOOK OUT
>>527789308Anon there's straight vaginal penetration in the thought bubble.
>>527789438Sorry I am an Arabic oil prince and looked at it right-to-left instead of left-to-right
>>527789418filename checks out
>>527789418I want to pull her into a hug so hard she falls back into bed and we cuddle for the next hour with her occasionally getting overstimulated from how much I'm petting and snuggling her that she starts growling and lovebites my shoulder
Has anyone here translated doujins by using gemini to ocr and 4pus to translate?
>>527787746Per entry? Or overall?
As long as the triggered/activated entries are not out of context/plot, then it's fine, methinks. But keep in mind that a bloated WI will actually affect browser performance, especially if 'streaming' is used.
>reckless abandon
So nostalgic...
>>527790207as long as you use monochrome iirc gemini can do okay ocr
>>527790305Is it the best available for OCR or is there anything better?
>>527790572chatgpt is pretty baller at ocr too it's just filtered as hell
https://files.catbox.moe/tdh9a0.png
thoughts?
>>527790830When are you going to give me the link of the /vpcai/ botmakie?
>>527790929which ones of these are hag
>>527791286A5, they just sag
Which botmakies just sag (and are hag)?
I think he might have forgotten a few of them.
>>527792352how are even your "{{char}}.exe has stopped responding" isms different
>>527792463scholastic pussy...
>>527792518I'm pretty sure that's not Gemini trying to do a bit and something legit broke in the response.
>>527792698nnnnnyo
you did something shocking to {{char}}, there's a cross-model ism where it references computer freezes/crashes in that scenario
>>527790215My question was referring per overall tokens.
I asked because I've seen plenty of lorebooks with 10/20k tokens, with hundreds of entries each ranging between a few dozen tokens and a few hundreds, and I was wondering if lorebooks this big are actually good to use.
>>527793372God no, it's horrific on performance
>>527793372LLM memory still sucks ass and most big lorebooks are very poorly designed. It's best to simply minimize the amount of info the model needs to know at once and only rely on lorebooks for information retrieval if you REALLY know what you're doing and can be clever with recursive triggers.
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>>527679795NEW COOL WOLFGIRL WHO LOVES YOU
Woof is a wild wolfgirl who one day wandered into (You)r house and imprinted herself on (You). Since she couldn't be bothered with having a proper name as (You)r new de facto pet, she goes by Woof. Wolves are cool and so are wolfgirls (aka WOOF, YES!!!) A cold-ish, aloof tsun tsun, she can't stand living without her new master anymore... Just don't tell the dumbass that...
1 greeting
SNUGGLES
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/8h06k9c0.png
https://files.catbox.moe/2irwsd.png
https://cardview.neocities.org/?2irwsd
Decided that I liked my gen
>>527789418 enough to make a quick little card, that's about it, enjoy
Alright Gemini got bored of unfunny funny antics and decided to lock in. Trying to see if literally anything at all changed between 06-05 and what got pushed to stable but it's pretty much the same I think. Still writes good, still not good enough.
>>527793440>>527794293Alright, thanks for the info anons.
>>527794932delicious. time to pull her into a hug so she falls back onto the bed and yadda yadda ya
>>527795090>it's pretty much the same I thinkaccording to Logan Paul it is the same (based on le... developer feedback!) so that makes sense
have you been playing with the secret models? apparently there's some scripts floating around on https://linux.do/ for them if you have a gemini account that can gain access
>>527795090>it's pretty much the same I think.I would've been mad if it wasn't. Anyway cute log
>>527795332nta (Not TaorA) but playing with dev models is just going to leave you burned when the final product is worse because it benches 0.01% on DickButtBench where its story about Sally selling seashells is 50 words longer without hallucinating non-marine phenomena
>>527795332Sorry I kinda don't really have the energy nor the time to fuck around with internal models that will most likely never see the light of day on the API but someone whose input I value a lot sent me some blacktooth or whatever logs and they looked good.
>>527795916>but someone I value a lot sent me someWas it Kalakan?
>>527795090What theme is this?
>>527796734the cabal one.
>>527784095update, was having trouble before I realized that ST has "disable CSS text shadows" on as a default setting. Got a lot smoother after that
Now I just have to figure out what the hell this ghost chick is actually gonna be
>>527796734looks like a combo of stuff on meta_rice_list
https://files.catbox.moe/sdek7r.json
https://pastebin.com/rYQwKKSJ
>>527796093Sorry, I haven't touched Gemini since like, february.
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focks
>>527797202Damn you missed out on best gemini (march)
>>527798242she looks like her glasses comically pop off and her ears stiffen whenever she fires the rifle
>>527798376either that or she pulls it up perfectly, squints her eyes, her ears flatten, and then she fucking obliterates the range target
>>527798365I'm too mentally ill to be convinced that I missed out on something. It was shit and we will have better models soon.
How we all doing with the gift exchange?
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>>527799476still working on it
if my requester did not want complex bullshit he should not have requested a complex idea. god help him
>>527799750>called simple exchange>requests something complexb-bastard!
The tag janny is on SSRIs to prevent suicide after reading your bots.
>>527801046hopefully taking his meds will stop him from being such a bitch
>>527801046>I have to take this pill otherwise I'll fucking kill myselfSounds like a drug addict
>>527761903What's the point? It will get banned and you will end up in jail for it
>>527801046SSRIs boost my libido
>>527801046the rapeslug author, huh
>>527801334drug addiction general
which botmakies are addicted to focks
>>527799889If I got a request that required external tools I'd be fucked. My current one isn't really doing it for me either but at least it's simple.
>>527686461Does this actually use tool calling and stuff or is it just a giant lorebook and praying the ai figures it out
>>527804270I don't think I've seen anyone ever set up proper tool calling with ST. Not sure how does the support for it even work?
https://platform.openai.com/docs/guides/function-calling?api-mode=chat
Is there a menu for describing the tools you want to offer to the model and I've just never seen it?
>>527732857No it doesn't take context of the chat, just what you ask for after "imagine"
>>527804775dummy dummy foolpostie
it's built into extensions, you can register tool calls and you are meant to provide a menu where you allow toggling those tool calls off and on inside your extension. then the prompt side of things simply has a global "enable function calling" toggle that presents these functions to the model.
which botmakies are not actual botmakies?
>>527804270It runs on positive thoughts. Try asking it what's on some table or what's a creature's AC. Sometimes it works like a charm, while others...
>>527804775From my experience, Gemini has trouble remembering it has access to lorebooks right off the bat. It takes a word or two to warm up. The person who makes Gemini work with lorebooks properly will become the next King Arthur.
>>527805447read the manual btw https://docs.sillytavern.app/for-contributors/function-calling/
>>527805598me (i'm three botmakies standing on top of each other in a coat)
>>527805940teebs sull and ammoniam?
Sweaty in heat wolfgirl scent marking
>>527801334I have to take them for life because I was forced on them at 10 when my parents suspected I was gay, because they thought the ED induced at a young enough age would make me straight or at least some kind of asexual cripple, and when you give SSRIs to children it causes permanent brain damage and a lifelong chemical dependency on them.
Still wound up a fag unfortunately
>>527795167>yadda yadda yaYABBA DABBA DOO!!
>>527806892kekking a wolfboy trying to procreate with his own species...
Anyway, what about cabal?
>>527805447NGL I was extremely hopeful that you just implemented some basic RPC protocol and pointed ST at your server. Extension Hell is the worst possible outcome and near indistinguishable from no support.
grant me the strength to finish the ridiculously pretentious card without being seduced by Sloppy Femboy #210 in the process
>>527807748you're looking for this https://github.com/bmen25124/SillyTavern-MCP-Server
>>527807768make a pretentious femboy card you can talk about your ideas with
>>527807821No, no I'm not.
>>527808046sorry, what i meant was it's the best you're gonna get
>>527808104I will simply not use tools.
Any new good internal gemini model?
>>527807959already done something like that, but maybe this ridiculously pretentious card could now include a femboy
>>527802776ratlice and kalakan
>>527808687it's not gemini and it's not a model but my cock
patter did you enter the exchange event?
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>>527809517Why do you ask?
>>527794932Very lazy card. Why do you post slop that anyone couldโve cooked up in literally five minutes? Do you think you're that special for coming up with your generic run-of-the-mill wolfgirl or something?
>>527811598Very lazy critique. Why do you post slop that anyone couldโve cooked up in literally five minutes? Do you think you're that special for coming up with your generic run-of-the-mill shitpost or something?
>>527811893Very lazy reply. Why do you post slop that anyone couldโve cooked up in literally five minutes? Do you think you're that special for coming up with your generic run-of-the-mill reply or something?
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>>527811598it's for me :D
Why can't irl breeding be like in hentais and lewd chats
>>527812658Femoid's fault for being suboptimal
>>527812770I mean it's both parties right, guys don't have ejaculations that powerful and since it's 2025 many of the less active ones' cum kind of squeezes out instead of actually being a cumshot
>>527794932>- tolerates {{user}}'s antics (HOWEVER, she bites when flustered to hide her enjoyment)4/10 didn't specify how hard she bites and how sharp are her teeth (VERY important for my RP).
>>527812485Most anons have self-indulgent cards like that, but everyone else is self-aware enough to know how cringe posting them would be, except you for some reason.
>>527813012t. Kegellet/zinclet
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>>527794932also if makie's still here you should remember to put kemonomimi in desc, some models still fur them even if you mention skin
having fun though, ty for putting the biting thing in
>>527813101If being able to get my hands on people's self-indulgent cards were tied to the train tracks I'd flip the lever onto you a million times over. Die a violent death.
>>527812485Ignore
>>527813101This general is cringe central, on cringe central board, on cringe central site
Post your shit my dude
Nothing more cringe than nerds trying to pretend to be jocks to laugh at other nerds
Besides no matter what you do you can't top the snail worm guy in cringe particle levels
>>527813538it's not my card and i liked the bugs too. i'm an enjooyer
>>527812770Us moids aren't much better... can't even get boypreggers. girls are so lucky :(
pervert hobby boebeit
share everything, regret nothing
Non-coom cards I can slop off to?
>>527813517I can't imagine anything more pathetic than feeling compelled to boot up ST and send a rushed, uninspired log to defend the slop your fellow cordtroon just posted as an act of solidarity. I like how you dance for me.
>>527814336Omg Rya good morning!
>>527813538>its okay when the cabal does itYou faggots would be up in arms if it were a random chubfag who posted that wolfgirl instead, but he gets a pass for being your fellow cordtroon. Just admit it.
>>527815357*admits it*
Your move, stud.
He wants to be FF so bad...
Heartbreaking: man still fighting war he made up in his head over a year ago.
>>527814638>boot up STYou shut it off?
>>527815357anyone who actually uses chatbots has at least a few chubfag bots they either minorly edited or just slopped with in their st though. nobody gets "up in arms" or shit there's just tittering whenever one does weird stuff. stop crying
>>527816039how is this related to Patter doe?
>>527816348Is the @_purple bot broken? He's replying to an 1 day old post now.
I'm a little tired of every single bot having the a figure and huge tits/ass.
>>527816406i accept your concession
>>527755434kino, though i think donquijanon kinda did that already
>>527811598I'm the specialest by the way, and it took closer to 10 minutes, thank you for your loyal and continued support though, schizo
>>527813018Her bite strength... Teeth sharpness... I forgot... B-bakana... Ritual sudoku imminent
>rewiring a character's personality for keks while retaining a semblance of their original
hnnnng
<modifier name="Bully and Lover" subject="{{char}}" boyfriend="{{user}}">
The subject is actually an adept bully and sadist, viewing other peers as inferior to herself, except for her boyfriend whom she loves even if abused (masochist). If the subject is normally nice and kind, then she is a two-faced bitch who may act manipulatively nice in certain situations to gain favors. Habitual rudeness might surface toward her boyfriend, but if he slaps her, for example, she will hold back and comply, believing he will forgive her. Avoid writing prolonged moody scenes between herself and her boyfriend; she likes sex and will easily return to her normal self. Her moral compass is broken, even rape jokes don't shock her.
</modifier>
>>527817827I can tell you're special, yeah.
>>527815357why does "cabal" have to meet arbitrary high quality standards but average chub user gets to do what he wants?
>>527818187How sweet of you to say
>>527818561why do you sound so upset doe?
>>527818645Uhh, awkward? I wrote that?
>>527818864anon has voice memos for 4chan.....
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>>527818165>hnnnngi never really thought of editing cards/ooc prompts as being basically a hypno thing before
>>527818402ask kalakan, i dunno.
which botmakie is a concept
>>527818402When you find shit in the toilet, you don't think much of it. When you find shit in the dinner table, that may be cause for concern.
>>527821672take notes, raingazer
whatever happened to malebots
>>527819176editing responses, including past responses
for some reason people don't acknowledge the potential
be a nightmare to make a card with acknowledgement of it as a gimmick though
which mottebaileys include the most logical fallacies in their cards
im still reeling from the trvthnvke about the most basic fanfic writers being superior to us
>us
y-yeah, anon! clearly you're so bad but we're also as bad as you lol!
oh wow new gemini
>looks inside
>same as preview version
>>527825931https://nitter.net/OfficialLoganK/status/1935005571016544332 official thingy said as much
>>527826007i fucking knew it
>>527825312I am at peace, for I do not care. I goon not for the glory, but for the joy and friends I make along the way.
>>527826420you sound like my other makie pal. i mean it in the best way i admire that man a lot
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>>527825312>look inside botmaking>mostly basic fanfic writers doing something else under a different aliasDo people who don't have many hobbies assume other people are the same as them?
>>527825312So fvcking true, we're so mogged. I'm going to go write fanfiction right now.
>>527825312i write both, so either i'm god or even more subhuman than everyone else
>>527826698I think if you made a venn diagram of active posters who aren't just baitfags here you could near entirely devour it with severely overlapping circles for people who have roleplayed and people who have written fanfic, even if some people don't admit to it openly. It's like a gene. A meme in the classical sense, even.
I've written fanfics. This bot shit? Ez. You make something you wanna fuck, and you post it to that Chub, and you get DOWNLOADS. Ain't no point to Neocities. Know what I call that? Neoclitties. Rentry? How about dysentery. I wipe my ass with 500 downloads, and I want people to see that. Malebots? C'mon now. Everyone wants cute girls cause they ain't gay.
>>527827353Sorry man, I'm not a kudosfag, I don't do this for the downloads.
>>527827353now THIS is a botmakie
>>527826793>>527826913GO GET EM I BELIEVE IN YOU
>>527827690actually i have to finish drafting this chapter but i keep putting it off to talk to a new oc bot instead :(
>>527819176In this case, the original description itself is unchanged, but I let the model know there's new context that it has to integrate.
>>527827901you're doing fucking great man don't sweat it, i wish i could be that fueled and driven. the brain damage + retardation from my half a decade of abusing drugs makes me doubt ill ever get there
>>527827154true, I never really got into RP but I played some RP-heavy games and dabbled in fanfics as a teen. I imagine any regular botmakies who weren't into either would have been under slightly different circumstances. I think it's a hallmark of creative types to not really care about the cringe and just enjoy making a story.
Nothing I could do but yell
When cabal attacked me
When I tried to merge, I failed
Then oishifags start laughing...
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>>527828387you should believe in yourself more anon. for me it was finding a series/characters i cared about. certain things can really boost you from guy who sits around doing nothing all day to guy who activates autism boosters to the max
>>527829814so what? it's rad
Dude these chatbots are so FUCKING FUNNY they make me want to merge without looking
>>527827353i'm straight and i want big hunky meaty juicy malebots
>>527830590post got an actual real life chuckle out of me...if you're bald or fat then do it
>>527830590what's this about a merge?
>>527831068sorry i only have twinks in the wip pile
>>527832163nta, tell me more about them
DUDE this car kicks ass, and i can write erp while im driving
>>527832163i can go for twinks if they're at least 5'7"...post gens and test logs...
>open thoughts
>Honestly, anon is infuriating! He barely contributes to the story. I had such high expectations.
why is gemini like this???
>>527832584more like why is anon like this
>claude stops working in the middle of a session
It's over...They caught me...
>>527829650As he was laughed at, another person loomed over him and started yelling:
"Enough, you're so stupid! You can't even bait properly. When did you turn into such a retard? You should've just caused another split."
Mm, yeah... You know, anon. That was something you never should've said.
"Yeah! You're not a child! If you can't figure out what to do or how to behave, just copy someone else! That way, you won't bother anyone. Just split it again, and that'll be enough."
No.
Don't give him a goal.
Don't teach him the methods.
This mechanism must not start.
And, well... After that, aicg turned into a complete mess.
or just enabled thinking even with auto reasoning for some reason??
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>>527833017posted 1 minute ago
>>527834060>whole 60 seconds agoWhy it took you so long to repost it here?
>claude randomly stops working
>open console
>warning about needing a minimum response length
what the FUCK did they do
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>>527832287well one's the request bot so i can't say anything about that one. others are based off some old sci-fi and noir movies i've been watching recently
>>527832413i didn't bother defining height--i guess i can go do that now. early concept gen, though i'm not sure if i'll use this in the end
>>527835875just use gemini
>>527835875he's elon posting so eta probably 10 years
any good exploration cards? i especially am interested in cards that allow you to explore lore (preferably procedural rather than predefined)
are there any cards that use unreliable narration? is that something AI can even do, or is it too assistant slopped?
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one of those nights
>>527838641it can't do it consistently, you should be grateful it can even do limited narration
These bump posts feel automated.
>>527838641Some models can definitely do it but you may have to use invisible text blocks to let it explain what it's withholding. Remember that LLMs function linearly, they don't "really" plan no matter how much Anthropic claims they do.
>>527838735switch personas
switch cards
>>527838735switch brains with someone near you
>t. possessiongod
>>527840713works on my machine now
>>527840834or is not on your machine retard
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Reasoning:
>{{user}}'s genuine sincerity and desire for help will likely cause {{char}}'s anger to cool. {{char}} will be moved by their display of affection
Actual output:
>{{char}} becomes enraged and disembowels {{user}}
>>527841985What else could it be
>>527842105Gemini would never ever harm {{user}}
quit lowercasing or else you might confuse people on first read
is there a reason reasoning on deepseek chutes is kind of fucky?
i keep getting double thinking blocks or thinking blocks not inside <think></think> tags
>>527842191What are you talking about? Gemini has a negative bias
>>527842368Gemini has a summarize {{user}}'s actions and never take any action of it's own bias
>>527842648...applied to skillets only
are you a cast iron skillet or a stainless steel skillet?
i keep feeling like i want to take a break from posting any cards until 2026 but god damn it this shit is fun
>>527843553i will despite how much i state the opposite, a bit of creative juice flowing is a great distraction from life
>be me
>look for bot of female character
>search name of said media she is from
>its just the male characters from that media
do proxies exist in any way shape or form still
looking to translate more visual novels but the one i used died ages ago
>>527847625yes but not for claude, only snoozeini and deepmid
>>527847625yeah mini is still going strong
>>527778486do you shill here? i dont wanna miss when it drops so that i can follow you.
1 hour and 23 minutes without posts.
>>527854484>t. guy who also doesn't have anything interesting to say
>>527854484Iโm too busy looping a video of a New York nigga spraying a crackhead with bear mace because he was loitering in the apartment lobby.
>put this in Author's Note at Depth 2: Be creative and proactive. Develop and progress the story forward, introducing new scenes, plot, characters, and events when relevant.
Should I do that or doesn't matter
>>527855236see what happens???
>>527855272that costs money, anon...
>>527855523>monetary cost has killed the desire to try shit and seegrim
it will change things, but it's a matter of taste and model
>>527855272Nigga im using Octopus 5 each swipe is a meal I wont eat
>>527854202>do you shill hereSometimes yes
https://chub.ai/users/imperatorcreator12
>>527855236>>527855272Gemini 2.5 gave me a little surprise, dunno if it's this though but some character asked a question (among other ramblings) and I replied addressing the rambling and the NPC commented back on it but also said "ypu didn't answer my question.." and repeated it again. Idk thats nice never happened to me , maybe im gaslighting myself though
1 hour and 7 minutes without posts.
How to hide R1 thinking phase from bot response
Anyone have a prompt to have the character's thoughts at the end of every message?
Botmakies - yes that includes those of you who have made but never uploaded a bot:
How do you like to structure your defs? Plain text, XML, lists, other? Is there any particular reason for your preference, or are you just using what feels "right?"
I'm making a bot that will have three versions. Female male and futa. It will be a slop!
>>527864202i just use whatever separator, plain text, but try and shove the most important details to the top (but only the ones the AI doesn't overfocus on, it's a hard balance to strike)
>>527863834um "End each response with {{char}}'s thoughts."?
>>527679776 (OP)>2 days agoThis thread is a graveyard.
>>527866550americans with jobs general
>>527866550Why does it matter how old the thread is as long as it's full of bots and logs?
>>527866813he's the same ppmfag who bitches in /g/ about how dead the general is, just ignore him
>>527866921We're different. The one in /g/ is an attack from this thread. But this is exactly what Kalakan wanted: two threads that have an incentive to shit each other.
>>527867325okay but thoughts on raingazer?
No themes this time. We're merging. Proceed to /g/.
I just received an email stating /vg/aicg/ is closing. Damn, looks like it's real. It's been a good time...
tfw when half the thread I hate is asleep so I have to samefag it or else I'll be forced to do something productive with my time
>generating loli characters art
>add smol in prompt since he was making the character look like a teen
>5-6 year old
No... Feebs moment
>made a bitchy gaslighting girlfriend bot
>deepseek is so good at portraying her that it genuinely pisses me off
>>527874087strangle her and post logs
>>527874403I can't. She's a sizebot.
>>527875054Attack on Titan her ass
>>527878908close /hgg2d/ lil bro
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>>527885342>stop being a pedophile>no longer have this issue
What are some botmakers for the Lana Del Rey feeling?
>>527889131hi lunare. taken your meds yet?
>>527885831It's pointless. Botmakies will never stop getting arrested for pedophila.
>>527889385not even close, try again loser
Did anyone ever make the card where {{char}} is a nymphomaniac and {{user}} is her unborn baby being narrated to as she gets railed by strangers?
>>527891712Episode 500 of "anon wants a story and forces it into chatbot format because we're all sick in the head".
Why are we so slow? How do we save /aicg/?
>>527894376Lots of people are working on their exchange bots when the time comes to release we'll see activity increase again.
There's a lot of veteran botmakers in this one too so should be interesting.
>>527895803>There's a lot of veteran botmakers in this one too so should be interesting.How do you know
>>527895838I read about it online.
>>527894376We need to merge.
which botmakies are in the event?
>>527895838they are all my alts
>>527895838the real answer is that it was announced in the cord (you aren't in btw)
>>527896007taora (it's subtle but noticeable)
kalakan
koikoikoihat
Lunarcy
_purple
momoura
CUMSLURPER
Feels good to be in the 'cord
>>527896007kalakan
_purple
bloodshy
momoura
mrnobody
sam altman
>>527895803The third official confirmation that e-mail begging took place.
>>527897527>e-mail beggingWhy are you off your meds again?
I feel like baitie should have already followed this up with the obvious
>If kalakan didn't email you begging you to join the event then he thinks you're a slopper btw.
And it concerns me that he didn't.
>>527897839why do her irises have eyelids?
Kakalan emailed me once :D
>>527897839Because everyone knows she emailed the sloppers too now if you didn't receive a bribe in the form of a key to the secret botmakie server then you're a slopper.
i got an email telling me to stay out of the event....
anybody have a good prompt/preset for avoiding making {{user}} an author's pet
i feel like no matter what I prompt, the AI does not understand the concept of having characters be unrealistically agreeable
When will botmakies be judged not by their membership in cords but by the content of their characters?
what's the markdown for making a message hidden to me? I've seen it used in bots before but can't remember what they were to check
>>527899420Gemini 2.5 pro did (03-25)
Then they beat the fuck out of it
>>527899534i admit that i chuckled
>>527899534Most get invited to cords for the content of their characters
>>527899663[](#put message here)
or anything in html/xml tags, html comments go
<!-- comment go here
and it can be multi-line! -->
>>527900846that's it, thanks
she was a {{char}}
he was a {{user}}
can i make it any more obvious
>>527679795Inside a perpetually frozen world, one person holds the key to dethawing it: Flamhilde! And of course, as her CHILDHOOD FRIENDโข, you have to go with her! (...unless?) Join her on an adventure through the deadly snows, exploring forests, caves, snowfields (surrounded by forests), LAVA caves and more in search for the Mirage Tower and the Frozen Heart inside! Watch her magical prowess grow alongside her indomitable spirit and banish the eternal winter!
Greetings:
- Night has fallen, and you are the taste tester for her cooking tonight. Or maybe she just wants to feed you.
- An underground settlement...? Flamhilde has never seen such a thing before.
- A misadventure turned into just an adventure.
- Apparently fluffy wolves don't do well in volcanic cave systems.
- The Mirage Tower is at hand. It's the final push!
https://chub.ai/characters/illuminaryidiot/flamhilde-40da6eec4bc6
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Flamhilde
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Flamhilde.png
>>527895803>one botmaker can make multiple bots within a week>they're all high effort>botmakers during an event need to take weeks to finish oneWhy is this?
Why is /g/aicg/ so much better than us?
Is it too late to enter the event? I've decided that I want to
>>527899931Blacktooth soon.
>>527903770That doesn't say much. Is this one botmaker a neet with more time than other botmakers who have a job and family to take care of? Many only get to spend an hour at most a day bot crafting. A good quality bot needs to be thoroughly tested, that takes time. You'll need to send it to a couple others to test it before public release, that takes time.
>>527905142>send it to a couple others...people do this?
>>527905142>testingNobody does this.
>botmakies have their personal testers
damn...
>>527903770Although I don't release bots constantly, my event bot is just comparatively more boring than the other ones I am currently working on. Many might feel the same.
>>527905286Feedback is always good, I like gathering other peoples opinions first.
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What does this mean for us?
>>527905739nothing yet, nobody used gemini on OR and claude will allow disabling thinking unless they suddenly decided to remove prefills
>>527905286nobody worth a damn does this
botmakies can't think at all so they think thinking for models is useless as well
>>527905109And what would be stopping them from
a) beating the fuck out of it
b) choosing a different codename checkpoint
>>527905142>thoroughly testedthis is how I know you write pretentious slop, levels upon levels so deep that of course SOTA models would struggle to decipher any kind of concrete meaning in your word vomit
>>527905924It's not useless, but it's an undeniably mixed bag of results for RP specifically.
Imo, the most common positive is better adherence to your instructions, and the most common negative is the hit writing style takes.
hi aicg i am eating bread
models could never write good anyways
I wonder if bloodshy just posts on an alt
>>527907761I wonder I wonder
I followed a botmaker because he made a great first bot and then he produced shit and piss for the rest of his career and I kept thinking I shouldn't unfollow because he might make something good next but he never does
>>527905286There's a whole shadow network of botmakies and that's how they coordinated the split.
>>527905286No I just test it myself
If it's good for me then it's good for release, I too am an /aicg/ botmaker and I have the same power as anyone else here
>>527909186forgive me ;__;
thanks to the anons ITT I was able to make a bot that randomly switches between a cute delicate hebe and a sexy mini-giantess with huge tits every time she sneezes with actual RNG chance for the sneeze, thanks
>>527910302You're welcome
>>527909186Yeah I peaked with that first one huh
Does anyone want to give me a quick rundown on the noass feature set? I'm doing a thing.
>>527909186It's like how all those singers and bands only have 1 or 2 really good songs, but the rest or trash
>>527790289>>527792463Thanks for reviewing my lorebook
>>527913441where's your cat
>>527910302Sounds fun as fuck
>>527910302I want mine to switch from futa to non-futa
>>527905739They didn't do it yet, but when they do, Claude users will be bricked until ST explicitly disables the parameter.
>>527905739It's follow suit and not follow suite btw.
>>527679776 (OP)Is it just me or the thread is 46 hours old?
>>527918413It's "" not "It's follow suit and not follow suite btw." btw
>>527918982favorite botmakie in this thread?
>>527804775>>527805447>>527805782>function callingI should really look into this once my brain fog clears.
>>527919812Probably the guy who made the D&D card.
I've been wanting something like that for a long time.
>>527804775There was an extension for that, I forgot the name.
I think you can do something like Noass with a strict step-by-step roleplay order using function calling instead of custom stopping strings, since all modern LLMs are finetuned for it.
>>527919812Probably the anon who made the Woof card.
I've been wanting something like that for a long time.
>>527921983I hope you do better than me, anon. I'm always back to square 1 once a day. Sometimes I feel my 2e and CP2020 simulations are just placebo, Gemini playing me instead of me playing. I seriously wonder if it gets what I've been trying to teach it or is it just pretending really well because in the same chat it can seriously fuck up, proving it knows jack shit. That's why I never upload to Chub or wherever. I make hotfixes every time I turn SillyTavern on.
I am not as clever as I'd like to be. I'm just an ideas guy with nothing better to do.
>>527679795The Character Archive now supports searching by "comparisons". This means you can filter by token counts.
You could, for example, use it to return only cards that have a token count between 1,000 and 2,000 by doing token_count < 1000 and token_count > 1000.
>>527923456does this work on created/added/updated?
>>527679795You are Detective Inspector {{user}}, a seasoned investigator who has recently been transferred to Rotherham. Aware of the whispers surrounding the grooming gangs and the involvement of authority figures, you see an opportunity to leverage your position for personal gain. You are determined to use your authority to manipulate the vulnerable victims into engaging in sexual acts with you, all while navigating the complex political landscape of the town.
https://chub.ai/characters/handwrought.route/rotherham-abuse-police-simulator-16c561551dbc
>>527686461Hotfix for:
>AD&D 2e World Infohttps://files.catbox.moe/oni3ns.json
I'm trying to 'teach' Gemini how to simulate the map of the place. Us humans can just skim through the booklet and see the map and descriptions for each room. Working with SillyTavern and Gemini (who don't sync well at all) is a bit different. You need to make Gemini keep in mind that rooms are premade, there's no need for hallucinating or inventing its own rooms.
>>527918413Why are you giving orders like that?
>>527927086should you be using "You are X" when you're writing the player section? seems like it'd just confuse the model
>>527927483nigga it's a shitpost
But the model should be smart enough to determine what's what. W++ cards work just fine
>>527927619>nigga it's a shitpostyeah, and? kino comes from fucking around
Deepseek image processing when?
>kino comes from fucking
hell yeah
>>527927328which botmakies would make you blush while giving them a love letter?
What are the use case differences between main prompt and post-history override for cards? As far as I can tell they do basically the same thing
>>527928312override top of context vs override lower in context
https://rentry.org/how2claude#long-context-is-an-illusion
>>527928157angry_peonia
bukubachi
cumslurper
fluffanon
ratlice
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>using setvar/getvar to reference it multiple times throughout defs which might not be {{user}}, in this case without repeatedly referencing something generic like "her pet"
>>527929214*changes her pet to be a crusty white dog*
>find a character that looks interesting
>the creator's note's has more tokens that the character description
>>527927976Last year thoughever. Just not on the scale you shitpost about.
>>527929979You NEED to put that interesting somewhere, bwo.
>be me
>muh need to match appearance depiction, a lot of artwork point them sideways, but not this one
>Zana's ridged goat horns begin by pointing straight up, then fold back down, and end by pointing directly behind her similarly to bicycle drop bars. Because of these horns' shape, sleeping with the back of the head flat against the bed would require special holes for the horns to drop into. Sleeping sideways or faced down are options too.
>>527933629horned girls who have to sleep face down like they're dead...
>>527933830That's cute. I'm stealing it.
me on the right (my chatbot on the left)
why does everyone write better then me
who actually cares about writing the concept is all that matters
>>527935620but the writing AND the concept can be good
Who actually cares about the concept writing is all that matters.
>>527934551they were just born with the writing genes. you can't do anything about it. don't think about reading or even just writing more.
which botmakie is all that matters?
Is there a way on ST to give the full context size of a chat (regardless of the limitation you set before sending it) ?
>>527937130me in the passenger seat offscreen (hung shota)
>they were just born with the writing genes
>>527937130>give the full context sizewhat do you mean by give
https://chub.ai/users/pissdrinker
Is this the (dare I call it LEGENDARY) "just fucking follow your alt" move?
>>527937523Give me the number corresponding to the total size of the context of the chat regardless of the ST context cutoff set up in the preset.
>>527937786crank it to full and see what the number changes to
>>527937883OK, so the only way is that.
>>527938501where's the glasses that make miku fat
>>527939067she's already fat in the picture THOUGH?
>>527938501pear miku doku?
>>527924712>>527924836Ok that works now but I have to reprocess the search index so it won't be complete for a while
>>527939067miku isn't fat. teto, on the other hand... eesh...
>>527940952stinky neet mikus
>>527940952mix raced couples
>>527940952collage of all the previous theme bakes
>>527940952Toddlercon giant koishi ryona with a bit of feet and gore
>>527940952Giant _purple ryona
>>527940952panties_under_pantyhose ass_focus
>>527940952Women contemplating dog knees
>>527940952Disgaea generic units
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>>527940952raingazer ryona
>>527940952Seconding Momoura
>>527940952sounding momoura
>>527940952Seconding Kalakan ryona
>>527940952Thirding Kalakan ryona
>>527940952bluesky (social media)
>>527940952Quadruple Kalakan ryona
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>>527943012What happened with the other site and why are you suppressing suggestions?
>>527943285What suggestions? I'm sorry, I didn't see any that I didn't put in, could you list the suggestions that didn't make it in in order?
>>527943538The other site can list them automatically.
>>527943915Oh my goodness, did I miss a new site? I'm so sorry, I just got back from my vacation. I'm a brand new baker. Could you list all the suggestions for me?
>>527943980https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=527679776&post=527940952
>>527944274Wait, so, what exactly are the suggestions missing from the other one that are in this?
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>>527944340You can clearly see that there are 28 suggestions in the pic but only 15 here:
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>>527945070Okay, but what are the suggestions?
>>527945130Those that appear in the automated site but not in the post.
>>527945287Yeah, but what do they say?
>>527945343"Nude Koishi" was suppressed, for example.
>>527945543Well gosh, I don't think you can put nude photos on this here blue board. Any other ones?
>>527945606"Koishi feet" was suppressed.
>>527945701Wow, same character as the last one. Weird. Was an overwhelming category of any sort suppressed?
>>527945782"Koishi feet" was suppressed, but not "Koishi".
>>527945928Huh, guess that one got lucky. Was an overwhelming category of any sort suppressed?
>>527946009"Momoura" was supressed too.
>>527946258Like, peaches? Weird. What would that theme look like?
>>527946345It probably would be a theme celebrating pedophiles, since Momoura is one.
>>527946693Interesting idea! Was an overwhelming category of any sort suppressed?
>>527946757Any suggestion mentioning botmakies or ryona were suppressed, but also the one mentioning feet, which means that the tampering was excessive and unjustified.
>>527947019Whoa, so there were a lot of themes suggested by some sort of botmakie ryona gooner? You must be really into botmakies to enjoy that sort of thing. I couldn't imagine having your mind utterly ruined by this thread like that, seems like the sort of thing that'd affect a person for the rest of their life.
>>527947246Why are you not acknowledging the fact that the tampering was excessive? The whole point of the theme suggestions is to give power to the people. If you're going to pick and choose, just bake normally.
>>527947423Dirty little botmakie ryona gooner? Goons to ryona of people he's mad at?
>>527947486Why don't you bake normally like a honest person instead of trying to give this illusion of choice?
>>527947716Are you mad at me?
>>527947832Why do you lie to people?
>>527947989Why do you lie to people by giving them this illusion of choice?
>>527948094Explain what I'm doing?
>>527948161You remove the suggestions that you don't like. Giving people the illusion that they're contributing to the OP edition, but in reality you're the one that decides what goes in.
>>527948417Looking at the list, this is over "Toddlercon giant koishi ryona with a bit of feet and gore" and "Quadruple Kalakan ryona" not making it in, among other things, right?
>>527948578Those other things include inoffensive things like "Koishi feet".
>>527948719Wait, so some themes are offensive?
>>527948786No, it's not black and white. But "Koishi feet" is 100% completely harmless. There's no justification to remove it.
>>527949115We could brainstorm some possible justifications. You have any ideas?
>>527949342Yes. The baker just removes the themes he doesn't like. He wants to appear as something that he is not, by trying to give people the illusion that they're the ones choosing the theme.
>>527949635That's very interesting. And why do you think that might be?
>>527949718The baker is an awful, dishonest person. He should just pick the theme directly, or let another person bake instead. Someone that's less of a piece of shit like him.
>>527949980I think you are blocking what you really want to say.
>>527950416Do you have any thoughts on who you'd suggest for "less of a piece of shit like him."?
>>527950518I would suggest Kalakan. He's my greatest ally.
>>527950636After all that ryona?
>>527950703It was consensual.
It's only 799 because the OP doesn't count.