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>What... is this?
Put simply, a simulation of Pro Evolution Soccer being competed between teams which are embodiments of boards of the 4chan imageboard. The players represent facets of each board's culture. All of the matches are AI versus AI. However, humans "manage" each team, creating their tactics and giving input during games as they happen to make substitutions and tactical changes as they see fit.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ

>Where can I watch the cup?
https://isthisliv.com/4cc/stream.html

>Upcoming Cup
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2025_4chan_Summer_Cup

>Upcoming Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League_9:_Faggots_at_the_Bar
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Gens%C5%8D_Cup_2

>Ongoing Invitationals
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_24
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Friendship_Association_Games_13

>Wiki:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Sekkrit Code
37pebis

>Booru
https://isthisliv.com/booru/

>Other videos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>PES Info
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017

>VGL 24 Hype Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKX4uk6xrms [Embed]

>Previously
PES 2015 is ready
[News]
ASS
thoughts?
shitposting

>>527709106 (OP)
/assg/ will be the winner of the next VGL???

what a dogshit cloud

>>527709407
teamsisters...our response?

>>527709407
[news] for AGL

>>527709407
>post beebs

>>527709407
>sex manager looking ugly lost /2hug/
>streak post beebs league raped medals
>groups fix bitch
idk I like it

>>527709407
>Kiyose sliders
Set to 0 for hair.

>>527709407
[sad denko raped

Get Moist critical to commentate VGL 25

>>527710401
maybe a decade ago when he was likeable

>>527710467
>when he was likeable
so never?

what

so is 15 on the table or nah

>>527712381
>more ugly ass old PES versions with bad UI just so when people get to test on it they get disappointed about something else
I hope never

>>527712657
what's a good pes then? 21 so we can have meme aesthetics with bottom tier gameplay?

>>527712774
Going back to 21 would be worse desu

Pes 20 crack any day now

>>527712657
then which pes should we go to next then?

>>527714241
18 needs the reminder more than any others

>>527715131
QD DON'T LOOK

16 in betweener before 15, just one league where every team will be comptetent by default and score a lot.

>>527712774
Go back for another 4 YEARS OF PES19 BABY

In order to keep things fresh, future Babby cups will be run on a patch designed by the winner of the last Elite. Elite cups will be run on a patch designed by the spoon of the last Babby.

>>527716294
we NEED the [s4s] patch with mandatory all star anthems

>>527716294
>/mlp/ cup on the /t/ patch
Book it Sou

>>527712774
how about go back to Pes 13?

>>527718201
No, let's go further...

>>527719807
hell yeah brother, i'm in on that shit

>>527721514
He'll rig a blowout for /yourass/

GOOD MOOOOOOOORNING /4ccg/! Just wanted to remind you that we’re another day closer to /trash/ (yes, THE /trash/ from 4chan.org) getting a team in the 4cc! Make sure to save your tears for the upcoming Babby Cup when /trash/ walks into the spotlight!

>H-HAH! ADMIN IS RIGHT! /TRASH/ IS INELIGIBLE! /TRASH/KEKS FOREVER BTFO!!!! “No!”

Hate to disappoint you discord trannies, but the rules are fake and can be changed at any time! And while you continue to praise admin, need I remind you that they are nothing but discord circlejerkers that will capitulate if their audience numbers are threatened? The new /v/ offshoots not only proved that the cup is ever hungry for more teams, but also confirmed that no bar of quality is too low for admin! But feel free to continue your denial. Your tears of disappointment will be all the more sweeter!

>>527725001
many are saying this

>>527725001
How many years has it been?

>>527725001
>not even posted every thread
/trash/fags aren’t sending their best

>https://implyingrigged.info/w/index.php?title=/cookie%E2%98%86/&action=history
Why would you edit a page of a team that never played?

>>527726324
its signed up for genso 2, half never ran it, its free real estate

Alfeizar is half confirmed

>>527727580
Nice, I really like the roster and logo.
The only thing that could make the team better for me is YMN's Love Together in music.

Alfeizar is Tadokoro

>>527731386
What, no he's YJSNPI on the wiki

>>527731386
>>527731595

I'm an evil twink >:)

>>527725001
It always annoyed me that whoever wrote this extended the word MORNING instead of GOOD, which is what would actually make sense if you were reading it out.

>>527734198
Zoomer-kun...
It's a reference to a famous film...

where is my pes21

>>527737309
in the pes21 village

>>527737263
yes and in the film he goes goooood morning vietnam not good mooooorning vietnam

>no players of the week again
the cracks...

>>527709106 (OP)
Why is she doing that

>>527739850
Virtual prostitution

>>527738973
Damn you're right, I'm too old to remember correctly ;_;

>>527709106 (OP)
https://namu.wiki/w//vg/%20League/팀%20목록
Is /yourteam/ popular in Kpoopland? Popular enough to get their own Team Page?

>>527727672
>half
>*alf
At last, I truly see.

The electric cumshot

>>527726324
h*lf's legacy is finally being concreted over and built over. ngl alfeizar is based here

>>527742120
No and that's based

>9

>>527725153
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/344986269/#344987332
Four years next month

>>527755674

>>527742120
>no /akg/ page
>but uma has one
Shit taste gooks

>>527742120
What is "water ghost"? Double suicide?

>Manager proved that he is a PES2017 master by winning VGL7 in December 2016 with /ddg/ and 4chan Winter Elite Cup in January 2018 with /u/, making the opposing teams nervous. He also showed his ability in VGL23, although he failed to advance to the round of 16.
Is this true?

>>527761016
>>Manager proved that he is a PES2017 master by winning in the plumber era
:doroshit:

>image of PES 15 gets posted
>looks like total doroshit
Why should we keep going backwards hurting our aesthetics just so some mediocre managers get a fresh start?

>>527761917
Because people get bored of doing the same thing over and over, and if the managers get bored then their team stops existing. Personally though I think we could stick to 17 for one more vgl if there's a rules shakeup for it.

hey /4ccg/, post your most punchable mambo picture

thats right, the proper solutions would be pes21. it is answer to everything.

>>527763730
What do you need the corn for

Newfag here. What is the best PES and why

>>527764175
The best PES is the friends we made along the way. I have no friends btw

>>527764175
16 if you are a chad.

>>527764362
You are my friend.

>>527764175
The sad truth is PES was never good.

you don't want to hear this but for pes, aesthetics > 'gameplay'

>>527765020
Many are saying this.

>>527765020
I am many and I say this.

>>527759235
>no /akg/ page
>/gfg/ has one

>>527765906
More like, /gfg/ is the only chink gacha general who have their own page.

/ink/ vs /lcg/ is still the biggest robbery this VGL
/lcg/ should be on 0 points right now

>>527768015
Many are saying this

>>527768015
I agree

>>527768015

>>527768015
I am many and I say this.

>>527768015
I have said this in the past.

i think /lcg/ should be disqualified from the tournament. no reason really, just don't like 'em.

>>527768015
This time next week they'll be on 4 points and +3 GD

>>527771713
NTRentale will throw for the top lad points

this weekend we will witness vgl's disgrace of gijon

[Wombshit news] Mercbrush's next team will be an /svg/ revival

>>527768015
Keep saying it

>>527771614
We're over two years too late for that conversation

>>527773518
By the time next VGL starts /svg/ will be dead. Shytgames can't run games anymore.

>>527774194
wtf did concernedape do piss everyon... oh.

Daddy's home.

>>527777138
The bull is here! /esg/, you must be ready.

>>527773493
[Epic news] /alg/ and /gbpen/ have received sliders for a 0 shots draw

Which team would eat the porkchop I just dropped on my carpet

>>527778785
/pg/. It IS Porkchop General.

What's the roster gonna be?

gold [Sad News]

>>527779428
update the team wiki page, it sucks ass I have to look at that stale shit

>>527779785
silver at much

>>527779827
roster first

>>527779785
bench player at most.

>>527780228
same shit just more generalized

>>527780165
>at much
sir...

>>527779379
>not /pcrg/ (pork chop relishing general)
You had one job

>>527779428
So you don't know?

>>527779428
Cupwars remains a gold, rabi demoted to non-medal or sacked, because i don't see"breeding x" in here that often now. "My pipes are leaking" as a medal player (my model idea is an anon in a plumber suit). "The Clubhouse" as a medal player (>rape dressed as limbus Dante, maybe other attributes from other teams considered mickeys)

>>527780621
>"The Clubhouse" as a medal player (>rape dressed as limbus Dante
Do the inverse instead, clock head man in an /mlp/ kit would piss Limbab off infinitely more

>>527780621
>Rabi demoted
Abysmal dogshit, it's not just breedfags that use her, may I remind you

>>527780621
>"The Clubhouse"
It's the Mickey Mouse Wünderhouse now.

>>527780621
When the fuck did the team last play even

>>527779428
It's decently up-to-date as of the last DBC, but I'm not completely feeling it, I'd steal a few ideas though.

Firstly, the team needs to get its own page on the wiki, rather than being a subpage for Smugleaf. We can leave that one up for posterity.

A few old ones and a few new ones include

Endless Cupwars (Gold)
King of ESL (Gold)
Teams for this feel?
>Page 9
The Invasion Angle (could just be Endless Cupwars, we'll hash that out)
Rabi
KWABOTY (model can be last year's KWABOTY, in this case some /bag/ model)
Melty in the 'cord
2huminatti
I don't get it
[Sad news]
Fine speech (or some other /pw/speak I don't give a fuck)

>>527781031
DBC 5 last December

>>527780621
>demoting CHADbi
>adding shit from ASS that was only seen in 1 episode and past the Mickey Mouse fever even
>Dante
ugh

>Dante, Korea
yikes
>Dante, Japan
MY HERO

>>527779428
>>527781075
BEE

>>527780621

>>527781312
both /lcg/'s and /mlp/'s runs have been called mickey mouse, the clubhouse posting has been a thing since last vgl (with the "OH SHIT THEY'RE COMING IN"). plus a flock of mickeys is called a clubhouse

>>527781075
Ladies and gentlemen your previous roster. What do I think of it?

>>527782036
>medal desu
Melty in the 'cord
Endless Cupwars
Sou Biden

>still relevant, starting player
I don't get it
/pw/ Brainrot
Need for Breed
Grim
st/ink/
Optimize your Export Please

>a bit relevant but not as much as it used to be, maybe bench player
The Cracks are Forming
/admin/ Puppet Team
page 9
Shiddy
Breebs
Numberfags
Lost Media
Korean Invasion

>dead meme, sack
/a/utopilot league
Go Back to VTLcord
Crosspost from /d/

>awful meme, sack
This Player is Troonsoup
KWABccg

>>527781716
This is GOOD NEWS

>>527782036
Medals are fine, sack >/a/ League, sack troonsoup (don't want the /llsifg/schizo to get more attention), No need for Breebs either since we have Rabi

>>527782510
Who do you think should replace the sacked players

>>527782510
>'cord medal
Grim

>>527782036
sack /a/utopilot, KWABccg could be merged into /pw/ brainrot, so he may go as well, optimize export is going, not in the know about what vtlcord was, but it may go
Add an angry Joe as "GRRRR" (could have a changing name depending on the opponent)

>>527782797
BEE (as medal)

>>527782872
rename to just "Melty in x" or something

>>527782872
Then rename it to "uh oh melty"

>>527782036
we finally have a Rabi model, keep her as medal

>>527782639
The original idea of the troonsoup player is to accuse a well known player of the opponent's side of being Troonsoup, Hence "This player is troonsoup" Because of how much the llsifgschizo would accuse everyone including himself of being Troonsoup but I guess it didn't translate well to whoever managed them during dbc.

>>527782929
>>527782510
forgot that st/ink/ could be replaced by GRRRR

>>527783285
>dbc
as a /zzz/ fan I read that wrong at first haha

>>527783141
>melty in xitter
Grim

>>527783364
kekypow, actually laughed

>>527782872
>>527783141
Melty about the 'cord

*Gargles your balls*

>>527782510
>Crosspost from /d/

Fat bitches are still relevant. We can just rename her "Too Skinny for Streakie"

>>527765020
you ever notice how no one gives a shit about aesthetics slop anymore but everyone basedjaks over 10 cards?
gameplay > aesthetics

>>527784151
No name is necessary. Just call the player "Fatposting" or "Fatfags" or something like that.

>>527784151
BBWGladiator or >350 lbs

>>527784151
>>527784318
BBW4 anyone? Make it a fat bitch that looks like SSJ4? That was the easy peak

>>527784286
How about just fatshits?

>>527783364
many are saying this

>>527782510
>calls Go Back to VTLcord a dead meme
I wonder who is behind this post...

>>527782036
Sack:
St/ink/ if they advance
This player is troonsoup (no need for celebrity shit)
/a/utopilot league (dead league)

Newcomer
BEE (Medal)
[sad news]

>>527782036
Maybe demote /pw/ Brainrot? And Rabi to Silver too

>>527784753
I hate VTL but it's a stupid player
even VGLcord is much more prevalent

>>527785104
>Maybe demote /pw/ Brainrot?
Care to elaborate?

>>527785383
hmmmm nyo...

It seems that my superiority has led to some controversy.

>>527555609
The models are posted on a public channel, so yeah.

>>527785780
We should keep rabi as a medal since /e7g/ doesn't exist anyway and it's a good shitpost

nyo one uses rabi anymore, just sack her

Remember when we'd sing and dance after a match day?

Aoba, shut the fuck up about 15, I don't want to use it.

>>527786139
she should be a gold for one season to honor her memory and her game EOSing
like stan lee on /co/ that one cup

Rabi's game is fucking DEAD it's all Doro now eat shit rabifags

Rabi is old and washed, add Essex

>kotniggers and doroshits(heh) were pushing for Rabi demote all this time
KWAB

>>527786424 yes let's move to pes21

>>527786912
no one has said this in the history of mankind

>>527786912
PES21 will never be used again. Too boring to watch and can't be fixed.

>>527786750
"N-n-nO! Doro don't do it! DON'T DO IT OVER THE /esg/ JP servers! Rabisisters kneel! PLEASE I BEG OF YOU DORO AIEEEEEE-" :doroshit:

What did PES 2021 ever do to you? Murdered your entire family?

>>527787081
Hi, you seem to be new here! Here on 4chan we use a quotation arrow (>) at the start of a line to quote someone, you'll know you've done it right if the text turns green.
Hope this helps!

Rabi is eternal, she should be a gold forever.
>>527787256
*breeds you*

>>527787256
WHAT

>>527787307
put the fries in the bag, rabi

>>527787256
So you don't know.

>>527787256
*takes you to the rape village*

*Shits preemptively to detract anal rapists*

https://www.pesgaming.com/threads/problem-with-defense-formations.96565/
reminder that even normalfags figured out how to fix formations on 15 so this bug is no excuse for avoiding it

>>527788567
@grok is this real

>>527788567

>>527782036
I agree with >>527781716, should be a silver at minimum.

>>527788665
>while having fluid formations turned on you can set the formations for 'kick off' and 'out of possession'
>you not only can but you have to, otherwise it will be 4-4-2 by default, even if you have fluid formation turn off
I see, so that's what causes the bug. The toggle for turning fluid on and off simply doesn't work and everyone has fluid enabled at all times.

>>527792291
was fluid introduced in PES 15? Maybe konameme just fucked up the coding

Or maybe the cup used broken version.

>>527792404
Pretty sure it was, I've never looked at the tactics menu on 14 but I can't find anything online with the words PES14 and Fluid next to each other, while there's a ton of tutorials about fluid for PES15.

>>527792527
*bans PES 21*

>>527793690
WHAT

>>527779428
Melty needs to be a medal

>>527787054
What makes PES21 so shit

>>527792527
You don't need to tripfag every time you post, my man.

>>527795290
FKFG
also ref dont do any shit, barely any reds

>>527796005
>muh refs
no, players do jack shit
when did you ever see a player going after someone's shins in 21?

>>527796005
aside from 17 refs from the recent batch of PESes aren't card happy at all

>>527795290
There's plenty of issues but the ones I can name at the top of my head:
>3-4-3 is so OP that needs to be banned for other formations to have a chance
>Free kicks truly are just free goals, worse than 17 corner headers
>Wide play is non existant, if you want to score you are forced to run center play
>Spin2win city, making goal variety really scarce

>>527797314
The worst issue with PES21 is that the CBs sometimes start spinning with the ball then throw it long to the midfield.

Why did we go back to PES 2017?

I swear this isn't bait, this is an honest question. I've been out of the loop for a long time.

>>527796005
>>527797314
>3-4-3 needs to be banned
People have said it was more counterable on the early patches but the 3-4-3 teams were still the best so that's fair
>FKFG
Also true of PES19, and no they were not worse than corner headers.
>Wide play nonexistent
Also true of every PES not named 17 but it's the worst on 21 so fair
>Refs don't do shit
Also true of every PES not named 17
>Spin2win city
Every PES has it's type of goal which is scored too much. 16 throughball to the corner, 17 weak header, 19 low cross, 21 spin2win. This never should've been something to focus on patching out.

ASS rentry?

If we ever make the mistake of going back to 21 just don't use the latest patch again (Summer) it was abysmal dogshit and got used for more cups than the others, we could try autumn or spring.

>>527798693
I think 17 is the best one when you look at everything, but man does still it come with it's own crock of issues.

17 turned to shit with the memory thing that definitely changed something gameplay wise. It was fine for last VGL and Winter cup.

>>527799303
Spring didn't use the "memory thing" either.

>>527798502
There's only four PES versions that are functional with the current state of the cup (16, 17, 19, 21). 21 had its run, 19 was run to the ground after that and 16 can only be used in short doses. But 17 is starting to enter the fatigue state of 19 as well.
That's why both /admin/ and the 'co are searching for alternatives like 15, going back to 21 or biting the bullet and having to use the forbidden one.

>>527798502
4cc and VGL wanted to switch versions and the truth is there aren't many alternatives.
Anything 15 and prior is unusable.
16 causes extremely bipolar reactions.
18 is off the table because it still causes /admin/ and vglco worse PTSD than Vietnam vets for some reasons.
19 was used not too long ago.
21 is forever tainted by patch autism.
17 was by process of elimination the most suitable also because people seemingly have very good memories from it (which is funny because I remember everyone hated 2017 era cups).

>>527799195
17 absolutely still has its shit but compared to all the other options it's the most unique gameplay wise.

>>527799426
Yeah but Admin ensured that spring would get even more bad shots, because what 17 needed were strikers that shot wide.

>>527798502
Konami rebranded PES into eFootball and made it F2P and chopped it down to it's underpants. It's been.... Four years since? And we still dont have Edit file or Coach Mode in eFootball. So basically what this nigga said >>527799435 We're in the land of no new PES versions so we're stuck squeezing the blood from the stone out of the versions we can work with. We're stuck like this until either Konami shits out coach mode and an edit file for eFootball or until we finally get sick and decide to make our own PES with blackjack and hookers.

>>527797314
Isn't this all a result of patch shit?

>>527800143
21 no matter what a central play game is, and the most center formation is 3-4-3, this is always true in 21 no matter what. But yes the latest patch we used just made 361 and any other alternative useless against 343.

>>527799303
>we fixed the issue but here are some things you didn't ask for

>>527798693
>and no they were not worse than corner headers
/akg/ won a final on 21 purely from free kicks

>>527800610
It doesn't sound like it was intentional like when the italian got asked to patch something and he would path other 10 things nobody asked for. But it is true the game feels different now, I'm sure other managers have feel the same.

>>527801371
No other team on 21 before or after them did the same. Meanwhile multiple teams have had cup runs based on corner kicks in 17, if FKFG was as bad then it would be present in almost every run rather than a quirk of a single team in a single cup.

>>527798693
>>527801371
17 Corners are busted but some of them don't go in, it's like a 1 in 4 which is pretty high, but free keks in 21 the 99% of them are going in. The /akg/ situation was hilarious because they got like 3 or 4 game winning FKs in KOs

>>527799195
>>527799716
We're still using assisted sliding so I wonder if using semi-assisted sliding like how we ended 17 with would be a good twist before we move on
at the very least offense will function better

>>527801371
buddy, let me tell you about the Winter 17 final

>>527801410
Not really. I don't know if I don't have this new .exe edit but it feels same as it ever was on my machine.

>>527801748
Turning everyone's brain off on defense doesn't sound like a great idea, would be better to experiment with different medal systems (not so fast boris, 3 is a meme).

>>527798693
>People have said it was more counterable on the early patches but the 3-4-3 teams were still the best so that's fair
It wasn't 'more counterable'. People hadn't found out that it worked and optimized it. A 3-4-3 won the world cup and the best team that wasn't them was a 3-4-3 that lost to a 3-4-3 off a keeperbabbying.

rate

>>527802084
It doesn't turn their brain off. It just decreases the dirty tackles so you get less stoppages every single moment. We ran it on the last year of 17.

>>527802178
Swap melty for breed or bee

>>527802162
Yeah that's probably it. Even if it was "more counterable" anyways there wouldn't be anyone who would sit there thinking "oh huh I could run this extremely overpowered formation like everyone else OR I could be a special snowflake and run its counter which only I and no one else figured out how to run trust me bro this time it'll work"

>>527802178
rename "optimise your export please" to 0kb hair

>>527802269
Ok that doesn't sound that bad I would still try GSSBB again with bufflets.

>>527802178
For Korean Invasion be sure to have the angry email somewhere on the model.

>>527782036
My suggestions, some may be repeated
Renames:
>Melty in the 'cord -> uh oh melty
>/admin/ puppet team -> pet team
>Need for breed -> Rabibros/Rabibros keep winning
>st/ink/ -> GRRRR (model is pottis with a gun)
>Optimize your export -> 0kb hair/Bald hitler (bald shamiko model)
>Crosspost from /d/ -> Fatfags
Sack:
>Numberfags
>Korean invasion
>Go back to vtlcord
>KWABccg (way too many /pw/ names already)
>/a/utopilot league
>troonsoup
New
>ALL IN ON [abysmal dogshit] (or some other rigshop related player)
>[good news]

>>527802178
Fuck I just got to this post
Rename The Clubhouse to Der Wünderhoüse too please

>>527802178
Demote breed.

>>527802985
The wünderhoüse is a funny ASS inside meme but I think The Clubhouse is easier to understand in general.

>>527802985
>Der Wünderhoüse
Is that shit even 24 hours old yet?

It's a shame because gameplay patches could probably be used to keep gameplay "fresh" in the same sense as switching PES versions but fuckheads with agendas like marco and patchco completely ruined patching.

Why aren't we just calling it the Mickey Mouse Clubhouse?

>>527799953
FM26 will have easily moddable aesthetics and offline versus mode so we will be able to migrate there for the ultimate nuevo plumber era
source: it was revealed to me in a waking delusion

>>527803380
Many are saying this.

>>527802178
Melty Silver, Breed Gold

>>527803359
It was from last week's ASS, they played it to explain their pet team losing and Cipher (or was it Reso) played the german theme for some reason
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/526608331/#526698971

wheres the save for nightlies?
where are the streamers for week 3?

>>527802178
I like the /pw/ brainrot memes but it's probably too much to have 2 or more of them. Just pick the best one.

>>527802178
Call it "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse"
Maybe call it "Muh Proxy Teams" instead of Puppet, I've seen that used a lot more
Good otherwise, not exactly what I want but not everybody can be as correct as me

>>527802178
other than demoting the actual 'cord player, rearranging the medals (Rabi for gold along with Boris), and renaming those "muh" players, it should be good

>>527803725
For me it is KWABOTY

>>527803725
KWABOTY has ascended past the /pw/ brainrot. It's a real award now.

>>527802178
>breed as a DMF
dogshit

KWAB- as a changing player name to taunt other teams works better

KWABtp
KWABehnna
KWABnetFC

etc

>>527802178
Breed AMF, Sou biden and boris golds. melty shouldn't even be a medal.

Why is there no merc player for the team? It happened to 4ccc with the revival of teams nobody asked for and the same for the VGL

>>527803725
this, there's no need to have both fine speech and [sad news], KWABOTY is the exception because it truly transcends /pw/

>>527804568
Fuck, I tapped the C key too much, I meant 4cc

>>527804663
[Sad News] is not a /pw/ thing, it's more of an /a/ thing and in general it's just a mockery of how some japanese post their shit on boards.

/4ccg/ would be a KWABOTY contender if it didn't have a KWABOTY player desu

>>527802178
Rabi was just warming up, let her be the gold again.

>>527804836
it definitely gets spammed on /pw/ for joshi and goon threads

>>527802625
The funniest thing about it is that he's right.

>>527805627
The times on the wiki should be updated for any days that Crimson streams

>>527805197
>/pw/
>goon threads
wtf, do you guys jerk it off to Nash getting GAPED constantly?

Someone more autistic than me should compile the average match length per streamer

>>527806803
It's not fair if you have a menu autist manager on your day. Or the retard with the faulty audio export.

>>527806756
'd 'o.

>>527806756
So you don't know

>>527806994
He did say that, yes

>>527802178
do an actual poll

>>527806926
If you take an average for multiple days these outliers would disappear.

>>527807426
t. guy who didn't think about botting replies earlier (he wants to rig the poll now)

>>527807426
I don't believe in roster polls

>>527806803
The length just for each VGL day are
Day 1 Beebs: 5:48:16
Day 2 QD: 5:50:40
Day 3 Cipher: 5:58:03
Day 4 Sou: 5:40:57
Day 5 Reso: 5:46:18
Day 6 Crimson: 4:40:35
Days 1-3 having pre-match changes.

>>527808937
>Sou is the second fastest

>>527809218
Note that that is in spite of two stoppages due to fucked up music exports

>>527809218
He's gotta be fast to evade ICE

>>527808937
Even with nightlies that second week has almost the same time average

>Muh Clapped

>>527809873
more like i just clapped ur ass lmao

>>527809873
He sacrificed himself so other teams can have functional keepers again.

when does /+/ play?

>>527809873
More like plapped

>>527809218
He's actually the second slowest, since pre-match rigging adds a minimum of 3 minutes to each match, 24 per matchday.
The actual surprise is Reso being the slowest, considering that.

Thought experiment but if a streamer is too fast and reaches the final match 40 minutes before the scheduled time, and the manager was still busy at work/sleeping/masturbating, should the stream wait until the scheduled time or just fuck the manager and run it as an auto?

>>527810893
He had three red cards (even if one was from an autopilot), a really ded and the entire /u/ cabal and /2hug/ in management that day, it was bound to be a long day.

>>527811081
So did Cipher I think, without nightlies and look at how long the stream was. Just kill those managers with hammers.

>>527811009
Good question. It would be more correct for the streamer to wait, since in this case the manager's absence was caused by the streamer running the match earlier than scheduled.
It's interesting how, with matches listed as lasting 40 minutes on the wiki (5h20m per matchday), everyone except crimson managed to stay above the scheduled time, even if we take out half an hour from the week 1 streamers.

>>527798693
>>527797314
yeah worlds the first 21 was 2 4-4-2s in the finals, 3-4-3 must have been a post patch thing

>>527811009
This happened last VGL when a match was 20 minutes early or so and the manager showed up at the scheduled time. When I mentioned it on the feedback form, VGLco just kind of said "oh well too bad lol it's their problem," which is stupid.
Giving a 40 minute buffer would be retarded, but a streamer waiting 10 or even 5 minutes for a manager to show up doesn't seem too ridiculous. At the very least, they should sub for conditions for an absent manager if they're early.

>>527812742
If at any point the day is running more than 25 minutes ahead of schedule, the streamer should be required to air an entire episode of Family Guy (ideally one with a thematic connection to the next match).

>>527812895
how will the streamer know which episode to air if there isn't an official 4cc/vgl family guy tierlist?

>>527806756
so you don't know?

>>527812742
>Giving a 40 minute buffer would be retarded
Running 40 minutes early is what's retarded, a 5-10 minute buffer would make no difference if he's early as fuck.
Then again, the easy way to avoid having to wait 40 minutes would be having the streamer wait for the scheduled time every time he's more than 10 minutes early.

>>527812509
Nah [s4s] was a 3-4-3 and the 2nd best team was also a 3-4-3 (/mlp/). Autumn was the only exception to a 3-4-3 team being the best, with a 4-4-2 vs 3-6-1 finals and the other best team being 4-4-2 /vr/. But the same patch gave Winter with a 3-4-3 winner and 3-4-3 other best team (/v/). Spring the best team was /pol/, VGL18 was /akg/ and also had a full 3-4-3 top 4, and then Summer had a full 3-4-3 final day. While I do think patches made it even more untenable (Summer patch killed defense, I wonder what formation succeeds against that!) it was more a gradual process of everyone accepting that 3-4-3 was the king.

>>527813416
My memory for old matches is pretty bad so please remind me, was that summer final day boring?

>>527813614
Depends on if you think blowouts are boring or not.

The problem with 21 too is that just banning 343 wasn't enough because the the next best thing is 433 so everyone will run 433. This might be just a problem for summer patch though, but it's an example of how much you need those 3 strikers to have anything working.

>>527813924
I don't usually like them, but it doesn't sound like it was caused by everyone running 3-4-3.
What I'm mostly wondering is what would be the issue with unbanning 3-4-3 and letting everyone run it, besides muh lack of tactical variety.

>>527813954
This.
As long as you had 3 strikers you had a pretty decent chance of hitting the lotto each game and getting a goalfest blowout of your opponent.

>>527813954
4-3-3 was definitely in the process of becoming the next best formation on the Summer patch. Again, if you completely kill defense then of course 3 forwards is the way to go. Maybe the other patches would have counteracted that but we'll never know.
>>527814335
It's not just tactics but ultimately the 3-4-3s play in extremely similar ways. 16 and 19 aren't exactly varied in meta but at least (before the 6 medal summer) you could run 4-3-3/3-5-2 or 4-3-3/4-4-2 instead of just one formation.
As far as all the blowouts in that summer I think it was caused by both the patch and the near-mirror formations. They just overloaded whatever PES determines for who wins the match and it shat out "uhhhhh Team A gets to score 10 Team B gets to score 0 have fun".

What if we had a new rule where at least four strikers was en-four-ced?

>>527813171
You're right, but I know that multiple moments of sitting and doing nothing throughout the day isn't much better, especially when being that fast has only fucked over 1 person/team as far as anybody has said.

I love SAO!
https://exhentai.org/g/3401778/a359ea8d87/

The winner of /bag/ and /smtg/ makes top 4
/hgg2d/ makes top 4 assuming they don't lose to fucking /ksg/
/hanny/ makes top 4

I have spoken.

>>527815779
The King golden boot

SAO is shit, I wouldn't like it even if it was forced down my throat, I hate it so much I actually liked whenever I read NTR doujins about it despite me hating that abysmal dogshit fetish.

>>527815779
holy snoozefest

>>527815984
I'm not happy about it. I just know it's true.

I've come from the future in which the top 4 is /ink/, /gbpen/, /bag/ and /drg/
You guys have to avoid this future at all costs, this is my final message, good bye

I've come from the future to tell you that the top 4 is /mjg/, /gig/, /tf2g/, and /domg/.
Oh wait shit I'm too early. Bye.

>>527815326
There really is no telling how many fans who wanted to watch their team play live it has fucked over, unfortunately.
Even just doing things a bit more calmly instead of speedrunning through the matches would help a lot.

>>527816714
As long as /ink/ wins, I'd put up with /gbpen/ and /bag/ getting top 4

>>527813954
what matters is less "is there a best formation" (there always will be one!) and more "how much better is the best formation than everything else"
3-4-3 in 21 is unique because you basically cannot consistently beat it with anything else. nothing else is even half as good at offense and its defensive structure is pretty good for a game where going down the middle is the only real play. there's a reason we got a final day with literally nothing else being run.
the only other formation this has ever really been true of is 4-3-3 in 16 under the spring/summer 2024 rules and that's largely because that ruleset more or less completely fixed 4-3-3's biggest flaw, that being that 3-5-2 and 4-5-1 could easily bully its midfield. and even then 4-3-3 was not the entirety of an elite final day

>>527799716
wide is pretty good in 19 but yeah. longball is barely even longball in 18-onwards, wide play sucks ass in 15 and 16 for the most part, players don't really slide tackle in any other PES save for 16. 16 is maybe more unique gameplay wise entirely because neither referees nor goalkeepers are even remotely functional, which is not true of any other PES

>>527818327
>longball is barely even longball in 18-onwards
I'm fine with this, fuck longballsloppers

>>527818598
weakmind

>>527819034
I can beat teams running it it just isn't fun at all to watch

>>527818598
you're not wrong. but like just take a look at pass completion stats! it's damn near impossible to get sub-80% pass completion on PES19 but 60-70% is just another day for johnny longballteam on 17. teams play completely differently!

How do you pronounce KWABOTY?

>>527819607
qua-booty

>>527819607
kwa-booty

>>527815386
That's not LLENN.

erm akshually goals only count if they're tiki taka. longballs and setpieces don't count.

>>527819607
qua-botty

>>527820852
Fraudiola...

>>527799953
Tell admin, qd and everyone else to get over their ptsd of Spring 19 and consider 18 as "If emergency break glass" PES. You won't even need to use it for a full year just long enough for another better pes that doesn't make everyone but especially QD scream like they just witnessed a murder.

>>527802178
I feel like Muh puppet teams and Muh pet teams serve the same joke/player concept so maybe someone else to replace either.

>>527815386
t.Shadowborg

chris benoit killed his family

>>527824219
There's no evidence for this assertion.

>>527819607
Kwa-boh-tee

>>527803647
There's no need for another save for nightlies

>>527802178
Remove shiddy, save it for the /vglco/ team, add Rabi instead

>>527817685
how did that 4-4-2 come second then, it must have beaten a 3-4-3 at some point

>>527802178
we have a fat rep but not a loli rep
give us a loli rep
most of the time its that anal idol @ girl you could use her

>>527831353
What do you think >page 9 is?

>>527831551
That guy is clearly a merc and shouldn't be allowed to post on /4ccg/ since he doesn't know the culture.
/4ccg/ has a better verification system than the VGL confirmed.

>open the cytube
>racism outside of racism hours
we need a gr15 for f1 autists

>>527831163
lots of good luck. not that /b/'s tactics were horrible or anything but it was the first cup on 21 so most teams hadn't figured shit out yet and they got pretty favorable draws. they did beat two meh to bad 3-4-3s in groups and then did not play another one until the final
/u/ won autumn 2021 with a diamond for mostly the same reason, most people hadn't figured out just how good narrow 3-4-3 actually was on any version of PES21 and they avoided everyone who was ahead of the curve

4CC/VGL equivalent for this feeling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk-2_Z9bRds

>>527833380
/dbg/, /hgg2d/

>>527833634
I thought /dbg/ were the Mets of the VGL.

>>527833380
/sp/

>>527834398
nope, they're the jets, like the ones from 9/11

>>527834802
So Gogeta is the Aaron Rodgers of the VGL?

was 9/11 streak's 9/11?

>>527836505
I don't believe he's old enough to remember it, so no.

streak was actually born on 9/11

>>527742120
>read /bag/ entry
This is how I learn there will never be a Kivotos Cup 2

>>527838574
Thank god

>>527838574
It was part of the reason they got the KWABOTY award.

>see /aicg/ has a splinter thread on /vg/
i could make a team for it but it'd be cringe and the general would hate it. i'd rather reminisce and maybe write a mini history essay on it since i had been following the ai chatbot trend since like 2019 when ai dungeon threads were posted on /v/ and gpt2 and its barely coherent sentences were the epitome of ai tech, but such an essay will never be posted because it'd be too long and autistic

>>527843886
Which one of them is the corn village?

>>527844043
The one that's called ඞ

Hi
VGL24 ASS Episode 3
https://rentry.co/crippledass

>MID witches.

>>527848631
>Sans is Leomon tier
He is scoring a hat trick in the next game.

>>527848631
>Hour 1
>giant Goldenglow

>>527849389
Never ever.

>>527848740
That's not a witch, bro...

>>527855896
Doesn't matter.

>least wanted commentator who keeps commentating? we all know the answer
I do not know

>>527851570
Cute!

>9

>9

>>527839839
i think the vglco would kill you for even wanting to make that a team

>>527871927
I'd do it and let them helplessly watch and seethe as you refuse to take it down

>>527851570
Ugly dog

It's over for aesco
https://x.com/victormustar/status/1934670798179992033

>>527880163
More like aesco is gonna get even more model requests.

>>527874820
Sorry, your POI has been found invalid.

>>527880163
No matter how advanced your AIslop is, you will never take my cardheads away from me.

>>527880163
Good as it looks, still have to rig that up properly and weight paint it to not look scuffed and broken in PES.

It'll do a lot for static models though

NOMO
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING STREAMERS

Friday: Boris
Saturday: Sou
Sunday: Cipher

>>527882734
This is misinformation but I choose to believe it anyway.

>Craig will never ever commentate again

>>527882734
>Friday: Boris
Haha.

>>527848631
>absolutely fuck all nothing about /myteam/
Good thing I didn't stick around to watch. ASS seems to be getting worse and worse and mostly talking about completely off-topic stuff for hours.

>>527884091
the less they talk about /yourteam/, the better (unironically)

>>527884530
Yes, more 3 hour blocks dedicated solely to talking about /akg/, /lcg/, and /dbg/ please!

>>527839839
get some friends to talk to, please

>>527884091
The only way to get people to talk about your team is to at minimum make final day. Other than that, you're better off talking to your general about them. It'd probably be more enjoyable anyway (as long as you didn't lose horribly. You didn't lose horribly, right?)

>>527884091
Some teams and groups are just more interesting than others.

>9

>>527889583
AH MAN

>check PES 15 player stats to see if there are any skills or playstyles not in 16+
>see that players have an extra 23 stats not present in later games, including 1-on-1 ability, separate corner/free/penalty kicking ability, goalkeeper outfield skills, and scoring instinct
wew

>>527893358
Why are we not on PES 15 then

>>527894470
Because we were waiting for Foreground to fix the aesthetics.

>>527894470
because we are waiting for aoba to make red cards happen in every other match and break every tactic that worked before... I mean, we need a 4gb patch

has any team successfully run 3-6-1 on pes17
it feels like a meme

>>527895253
/fit/ in the classc plumber era period

>>527895253
/ddg/, /akg/

>>527884091
The second part is accurate. This was a very long ASS and most of it was mostly shitposting along /4ccg/ about random shit.

>>527895408
>/akg/
>1 goal in two games

>>527895408
Yes, /ddg/ rode their 3-6-1 to a second place finish in the illustrious Lads on Tour.

>>527895161
trust the bombodilo crocodilo patch

Where the fuck was I supposed to get this patch this is according to the 'ccg completely different from what 17 was before?

>>527896321
Streamers got it.

>>527895161
>aoba
it was foreground though

>>527896796
aoba handles and changes everything for vgl, even things he shouldn't, like menus however

>>527896697
Funny how both streamer teams are on track to advance including /alg/

>>527897162
rigypow

>>527884091
I searched every single team and of all 52 only /ggg/ and /tf2g/ didn't get mentioned. Sorry bro try promoting from qualies.

>>527898070
/ss13/clowns, we are so back!

>>527898070
/ggg/ got mentioned briefly when streak was dooming

>>527898070
can't believe /aa2g/ got mentioned in 2025

>>527898723
greatest team to ever play, to be honest

a month or two ago we learned that offside trap and dline changes are possible on coach mode. what other commands work in coach mode? i know you can turn on/off advanced instructions using the dpad

Offside traps are gay.

>>527900069
That's /tekgen/

>>527903372
That's not /tnm/.

>>527903852
Who.

New /smbg/ goalhorn?

https://youtu.be/uRmsjoy9Ezk?si=lN2QrvBa3qm-gJK6

>>527902965
You can change the kind of cross players make in the wing, it also works for corners.

>>527903935
Is this your channel? Why are you shilling a dogshit 100 view video

>>527906413
Yes, it's my channel, and I decided the best place to advertise it is the divegrass thread on the Mongolian basket weaving forum. You caught me.

>>527903935
This would be the least hype goal horn of all time.
Get this shit outta here.

>>527848631
>Shiddy is executed
just when I thought it couldn't get worse

[Sad News]Shiddy shot to death

>>527907878
sorry, DK has a new, better and sexier companion now

>>527908113
KWAbson...

Akko League?

>>527910337
No.

Akko Leauue

>>527910608
What's a Leauue

>>527911501
So you don't know?

>>527911725
You tell me

>still no streamers
grim

>>527914856
one might even say dire

>>527914856
Friday: Bird
Saturday: Cipher
Sunday: TBD

>>527915093
Grim

>>527915093
>TBD
It will be a surprise visit to Dtroit's nutty putty cave, I can feel it.

>>527915093
AND THAT'S BORIS WITH THE STEEL CHAIR ON SUNDAY

>>527915093
sunday is now crimson

>>527917536
Grim

>>527917589
No, Crim.

>>527917536
At least if there's playoff they will be done quickly.

>>527917536
the_grimson_day

>9

oh hitleeeer, Taba did it again, more mutes pleaaase

>>527922663
what did he do this time

>>527923017
Exist

>>527923017
vtumor talk in the 'cord

Beebs is a fucking retard by comparing him to Bowling, he is an autist that has fits sometimes, but you don't see him being an annoying nigger all the time like Taba is.

>>527923125
fucking grim

>>527923125
...and Denko was saying it improved on last vgl

lmao

Any news?

>>527923017
Exist, but unironically

>>527923395
>>527923958
actually, I just made that up not sure why you believed me

>>527924210
What the fuck are you saying, you're not (me), you didn't write that post

>>527924210
go back to the 'cord, KWABa

MUTEDba the NUISANCE is speedrunning for his 20th mute.

>>527922663
He should get kicked out during every offseason.

>>527926604
He should get banned and get the same treatment the /drg/ "caretaker" has, since he has made clear discord is not necessary for the VGL.

>>527927019
The /drg/ caretaker is larping, he is in the 'cord you wouldn't believe who he is.

>>527927295
I know, but since nomo won't fucking admit it might as well make an example of the 'cord not being necessary by banning taba and letting him manage outside of it.

>>527927295
Aname.......

>9

>>527927019
there are managers that aren't in the 'cord, it isn't essential for VGL if anything it's expendable

>>527931972
it isn't essential for management but it is essential for organization

>>527910337
>/copalib/ signed up
it's OVER for euros

>>527933695
forgot pic

>>527933240
Maybe on planet retard

>>527923391
>you don't see him being an annoying nigger all the time like Taba is
I compare managers based on management style, not circlejerk shit from the 'cord.

What the fuck does everyone hate Taba

>>527940037
Alex...

>>527940037
hi Alex, please come get your boyfriend from VGL

>>527940037
Jealousy

>>527940428
t.Taba

>>527940428
Absolutely nobody on this planet is jealous of someone who is an argie

>>527942028
'fraid so

>>527935371
t. never organized aesthetics shit with a streamer
Would would you use instead, irc?

>>527942264
Do you think the 4cc only started after discord

>>527942356
It used Skype before that but Skype was a piece of shit.

>>527942356
It used to use skype, which is now dead. I'm not the guy who said it's essential but there needs to be some chat service which allows posting images and ideally files.

>>527940428
Maybe on planet annoying retarded nigger

>>527942514
I should clarify that it's not so much discord that is essential but having a hub for organization is. And from the organization side of things discord works perfectly fine, it's only the general chat part that makes people want out or find an alternative.

Taba...
Alex...
Everyone...

I'm going to mating press the Rat and force Taba to watch on the cuck chair

Ok, nomo
But you have to choose who to defend, the annoying faggot who always goes off-topic and picks fights with everyone like a nigger or revealing that the /drg/ caretaker is in the vglcord despite his insistence on not wanting to use it.

>>527943638
Both are VTL people to no one's surprise.

>>527943458
>
nobody would put mating press and his name in the same posts but himself

>>527943848
what the fuck is this meme that only Taba does this when has he been caught doing this???

Anyone who posted on the cord is a tranny

>>527943848
Why are you talking about yourself Taba, Only Taba would point this out.

I don't even know who Taba is

Abysmal dogshit thread these last few hours, he truly goes all out whenever he gets called out, huh.

>>527945373
>>527946304
Whatever you say Taba
>>527945438
Why are you posting your ewhore here Taba

I SURE LOVE DIVEGRASS. I HOPE MY TEAM WILL WIN THIS WEEK, OR AT LEAST DRAW. I WOULD HATE IT IF WE LOST. DIVEGRASS.

VGLco didn't even have to deploy the schizo to derail the conversation because shitba does all of his defending by himself

I'm Taba, He's Taba, You're Taba, their Taba, everyone in the 'cord is Taba's alts is there anymore Tabas I need to know about

Crazy to think people thought Taba and Cipher were the same

no, not participating in your shitty deflection, just ban him, and move on and talk about divegrass, period

>>527946721
Stop talking about yourself SHITba.

>>527947290
Stop samefagging KWABa, nobody cares but you.

>>527947290
Who is this handsome fella

Newfriend here. Is this the schizo containment thread? I just want to talk about divegrass

>>527947290
I look like this

>>527947837
the new Superman

>>527948119
Were in real melty hours right now so yes

>>527948119
>I just want to talk about divegrass
Come back during Yuro hours

>>527946679
I also hope my team will win this week. However, given their track record they're probably dying this weekend, but that's just how it is sometimes.

Hmmmm yes I'm feeling this is rigged for /bag/ to win

>>527948763
You mean when the only posts are the anime girl page 9 bumps?

>>527945438
>Vwhore
disgusting

>>527949069
We're pretty well positioned, but we still have potential to die if things go horribly. Good luck to you :]

tfw no Kuomintang gf

>>527950002
cool it with the /akg/phobic remarks before vglco kills you

>>527949792
They want to have an epic redemption story from a sympathetic team that was on qualifiers that makes it all the way to the top but the 'co fails to realize that /bag/ is a heel, that kind of storyline doesn't work for them. Terrible creative department, they need to fire them.

what are some rule changes you'd like to see for /vt/ league?

hard mode: no livemanaging

>>527952052
I don't watch VTL so I don't care.

>>527952391
you cared enough to reply

>>527952434
ur so mad

>>527952551
no u

I didn't even know there was a VTL

>>527952052
chants and goalhorns and anthems and victory anthems can no longer use any vocals from the vtuber

>>527953142
I might actually watch it if they did that though.

>>527952995

>>527953189
Yeah, it was a completely genuine rule change suggestion that might entice me to watch.

>>527953142
>>527953325
Is it really that bad?

>>527953917
I don't know how enjoyable it is otherwise, because every single time I think "maybe I can give VTL a chance," I'm blasted with the most obnoxious screaming woman sounds or offkey singing I've ever heard.

>>527953917
People complain about VGL being very gacha league but genuinely every single team in the VTL is the exact same, and all of them have abysmal dogshit songs.

>>527953218
>>527954480
The entry barrier is just immeasurable if you don't care about vtubers.

>>527956498
Yeah, vgl has made me somewhat interested in some of the games I don't play, but vtl repels anyone thay doesn't eat breathe and shit vtubers.

>>527956498
I hope that we can put on a good show for anyone that likes virtual divegrass

>>527927675
My /vt/ manager

I think another aspect of VTL that makes it less approachable to people unfamiliar with the source material even moreso than VGL is how lame the rosters tends to be, especially the ones for a specific tuber where the entire team is just different variants of the same girl. Not to say this doesn't also apply to some VGL teams at times, /ddlc/ comes to mind (even if they aren't playing anymore), but even they have at least 4-5 to work with as opposed to just 1.
The only thing I will give VTL is that some of their wiki pages are shockingly high effort, I don't think any VGL or even 4cc teams go as far of some of those teams do.

>>527954480
>I'm blasted with the most obnoxious screaming woman sounds or offkey singing
This is all I fucking hear yet 7 times out of 10 when I go to listen to the offending shit my reaction is immediately "this isn't even that bad why is everyone complaining about this and making it out to be worse than it actually is?"

>>527963121
Congratulations on your higher tolerance for annoying bullshit. I'm glad you're using your powers to watch the VTL.

>>527963314
It's not like I can't point at the teams that are the worse offenders of this but it's not like those offenders are the rule as everyone acts like they are, perhaps people just have really shit timing and keep tuning in while they are playing? I don't fucking know, Maybe my concept of what I consider "woman screaming" and "off-key singing" is different than everyone elses.

>>527962462
It's a young league and all the teams take time to grow out of their really early days of bad rosters.

>>527963121
this sounds like a boris boomer take along with "all the anime teams are the same why do people hate vtubers?"

>>527963772
Not a great example of growing out of their early bad rosters.

>>527964112
it's an improvement

>>527963772
How does that team's roster look now that it has had time to grow and improve?

>>527964289
Not very impressive after 7 leagues of existing.

>>527964302
Here is their current one as of vtl8

>>527964302
old on the left, new on the right

>>527964540
Eh, it's normal, teams still use [character name] even now

>>527964619
>It's a /ddlc/ tier roster
grim

>>527964885
It's one of the "specific vtuber" teams so of course

VGLco members like this?

>>527965773
Kiyose...

>>527962462
4cc has the lowest effort rosters

Can't this template be flexible with a 100px min-width? Would eliminate the need to use multiple templates for shiddy wide team names like /fgoalter/.
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Template:Group/top

>>527966180
Huge fan of /co/ featuring 16 players that are just the character or series name.

>>527967221
They tried to fix that last cup, they just never updated the wiki.

>>527967221
id take teams with a shitty roster over half a tournament signup being TBD

>>527970861
which of the 4cc, VGL, or VTL has half their signups as TBD?

>9

Is it true that all first rosters are always terrible? Let's compare them against the current ones to find out and see how teams have evolve with time.

Are you going to post every fucking active roster
Your point has already been made

I think that you should save some time and compile multiple teams into one image. Just put some dividers in and label them.

>>527981642
I will do just the first ten in alphabetical order. Maybe some that I think are quite notorious.

>>527981849
This team is pretty new still so both rosters are the same abysmal dogshit.

And that makes ten.

>>527982105
They debuted in 18, they might be a newfag team but they aren't new

>>527982502
>/drg/ played 6 leagues before V3 came out
Obviously that's how time works, but it feels weird to me as somebody who didn't learn about VGL until recently

Karabella

>>527981010
Probably the one with the biggest glow up of the ten.

>>527983736
It's a 10 year old team, I'm actually surprised some players are still around renamed and not.

Here's a good one, from just names to actual memes.

>>527983876
I don't think anyone can seriously suggest to get rid of Nonowa. She's just too important.

And the one with twenty four appearances.

>>527984953
You also can't get rid of Chihaya. She's the most important of all.

>>527985270
Exactly. And that's why they're sitting in their respective positions.

>>527985638
You say that now, but consider what might happen if /@/ ever managed to make a final while either of them made no notable contributions to getting them there and were generally being seen as a detriment to the team

>he thinks they would get rid of them after 10 years of not doing it
never ever, /@/ would die first than letting them go

>>527985036
Ram and Rom the best

>>527985873
The sheer history of those two is enough to keep them. Both of them have been there from the start of the team and the start of iDOLM@STER as a whole. It's been nearly 20 years since iM@S first came into existence and they were both there from day 1. If nothing else, they have to continue to be on the team to represent the original group that started it all.

>>527985036
When you're in an abysmal dogshit competition, but your opponent is >>527981849

I actually think some managers are in a parasocial relationship with some of their players

>>527986324
drop names/ give examples

>>527986196
The same could be said about Sans but that didn't stop /utg/ from demoting him after last league

>he compared the 20 yo franchise to le 1 game importance and just cameos in the other one
kekypow

>>527986364
It's literally occurring in this thread right now

>>527986942
You're running on the assumption that people who post on /@/ have the same mentality as people who post on /utg/. I highly doubt that a setback would make them turn and kick out a pair that's been there forever.

If the "parasocial relationships" were real, what's stopping those managers from just putting their favorite girls as golds/silvers then?

>>527987268
/vg/ generals are all the same kind of cancer, assuming one is better than all the others is pure folly

>>527985036
tactics were BETTER back then. you just vomited out whatever random bullshit and hoped you scored a goal. now you run "known good tactics" and end up just getting owned by some dumb bullshit myuer cooked up in five minutes. game's gone

>>527987626
Sorry alex, but the merc'd team wins over frauds

>>527987507
You're right anon, it's amazing how we manage to argue when we're all the same. There isn't a single difference between the spics over at /dbg/ and the seaniggers in /bag/.

>>527987268
>>527987626
/@/ has never been in a semifinal so I don't think choking a final would make them fire a classic player. But who knows, managers always play a big role on those decisions too.

>>527987783
Yep, it's third worlders all the way down. Anyway, you can talk up your general(s) here all you want but anyone who actually goes to any given general would (or at least should) know exactly how shit it is and why. They are like countries in that way.

>>527984692
6 characters are on both rosters.

If all of this is because of Sans I think /utg/ should keep him as a medal because it's funny. You shouldn't move around medals only because of performance, some players like Rance are an example of this, no one would ever sack Rance. But that's my onion, generals can do whatever they want with their teams.

>>527988170
>onion
/hanny/'s chink(gook)...

>>527988268
newfag...

if i were /utg/ i would simply run literally anything else besides double dummy runner

>>527988442
What were they cooking

>>527988683
A pes16 export.

>>527967221
I don't understand why this is such a big deal, I remember FB tearing /m/ apart for it (and /vrpg/ until Dagoth changed names).

Ok. How you know?

>>527991034
I don't get it either, /aco/ tried changing their player names and it's not like they're any better for it

>>527991034
Wait Crimson does the same why would he tear /m/ apart for it

>>527991432
Crimson has no right saying any of this when /v/ has always and still is just [character names]

>>527991034
It makes it look like the board or general doesn't have any memes or culture of its own and they only picked 23 players that are generally popular.
I don't have a problem with it when it's just one player on a team (like Messi, everyone's favorite fictional character). But when it's the majority of a team either the person running it is lazy or that board/general has nothing that makes it unique.

Personally I wouldn't describe a third worlder's toilet as having culture unless it was of the bacterial kind, just saying

>>527991954
I agree, we should have more players named "Sex" ir "Horny", now that's epic 4chan culture

>>527982187
>grigori pic is bigger
decent joke

>>527994859
Yes sir the only alternative to [character name] is Sex.

>>527981481
>african doctors
need to return

>>527981645
An Essexless /alg/

>>527982017
Damn, i miss Tournament of Power shitposting

shiddybros.... we've been replaced

>>528000776
Shiddy was always the jannetty.

>9

/myteam/ dies tomorrow

I have no idea what needs to happen this week for /myteam/ to stay alive

So what I gather is
>bad rosters, full of character names and offsiter memes
/yourteam/
/bag/
/vg/
>good rosters, demonstrating timeless culture and beloved memes
/myteam/
/lcg/
/f/

>>528009484
Look for the team Matrix

>have roster ready
>have explanations for every player ready
>ideas for kits
>ideas for player models
>idea for logo
>literally nothing for music

>>528011127
https://suno.com/create

>>528011127
https://www.youtube.com/@CoComelon/videos

>>527998794
/zzz/ fan btw

>>528011127
Which league?

>>528011605
/jp/

>>528012061
2hu league?
You have no idea for music for a 2hu team?
Good lord.

>>528012819
There's more to /jp/ than 2hu

>>528013074
big if true

In what scenario would you use "all out defense"

>>528013221
counter long is the most common case

>>528013221
when I want to use wide and conservative

>>528013221
stopping lang ball, or maybe parking the bus

>>528013221
When you're up by a goal.

>>528013074
Yeah, JAVs.

>>528014894

>>528014894
It wasn't her.

>>528013074
Kigu rep when?

>>528015571
Is Giant Yukari no longer on the team?

'ew

>>528017095
I don't get it

>>528017152
It's a reference to the 'cord goon seshs.

>>528017095
window on the top right

>>528017297
the 'toss referenced ME!?

>>528017152
reference to the underage /hsrg/ aes guy

>>528012061
>/jp/ league exists?
true if big

>>528021653
who are you quoting?

>started doing cup stuff at 16
>lied about my age to not get b&
>now have to pretend I'm 3 years older even though I'm in my 20s

>>528023623
Who the fuck is running a bot in /4ccg/ of all places

If you see me in the cytube, say hi
But if you meet me in the 'cord, I'm a talkative guy
Maybe we'll talk over melties and Guess the Scoreline
And you know even when I'm frauding I'm a VGL guy
And a lot of Koreans post my goals in tweets
But the plumbers are all mad in /4ccg/
Yeah they don't like all the gacha and they cope and seethe
They're even worse than the riggers in the 4cc

>>528023623
This happened to me but IRL

>>528024120
Now make AI sing this shit.

>>528024120
fuck you god dammit i've been workshopping this for weeks and you beat me to it

>>528024359
>workshopping this for weeks
it takes like 20 minutes top to do one of these

27.1911°N, 78.0463°E 45.1234°S, 170.9876°E BATTERY POSITION 38.8895°N, 77.0353°W 12.8798°S, 45.3821°E 60.4720°N, 8.4689°E 33.9425°N, 118.4081°W RELOAD 25.7617°N, 80.1918°W 35.6895°N, 139.6917°E BMU HUB 48.8566°N, 2.3522°E 51.1657°N, 10.4515°E BATTERY POSITION 55.9533°N, 3.1883°W 34.0522°N, 118.2437°W 37.7749°N, 122.4194°W 40.7128°N, 74.0060°W RELOAD 19.4326°N, 99.1332°W 31.2304°N, 121.4737°E 1.3521°N, 103.8198°E 13.7563°N, 100.5018°E BATTERY POSITION 41.9028°N, 12.4964°E 59.3293°N, 18.0686°E 39.9042°N, 116.4074°E 55.7558°N, 37.6173°E BMU HUB 28.6139°N, 77.2090°E 50.8503°N, 4.3517°E 52.5200°N, 13.4050°E 35.6762°N, 139.6503°E 43.6532°N, 79.3832°W BATTERY POSITION 22.3964°N, 114.1095°E RELOAD 60.1695°N, 24.9354°E 19.0760°N, 72.8777°E 41.0082°N, 28.9784°E 45.4642°N, 9.1900°E BMU HUB 30.0444°N, 31.2357°E 52.3676°N, 4.9041°E 39.7392°N, 104.9903°W BATTERY POSITION 33.4484°N, 112.0740°W 35.2271°N, 80.8431°W 42.3601°N, 71.0589°W 25.2048°N, 55.2708°E 59.9139°N, 10.7522°E RELOAD 31.7683°N, 35.2137°E 4.7110°N, 74.0721°W 6.5244°N, 3.3792°E 40.4168°N, 3.7038°W BATTERY POSITION 50.0755°N, 14.4378°E 35.8617°N, 104.1954°E 13.0827°N, 80.2707°E BMU HUB 36.2048°N, 138.2529°E 45.8150°N, 15.9819°E 33.5138°N, 36.2765°E RELOAD 48.2082°N, 16.3738°E 55.6761°N, 12.5683°E 53.3498°N, 6.2603°W BATTERY POSITION 35.6895°N, 139.6917°E 40.8518°N, 14.2681°E 37.9838°N, 23.7275°E BMU HUB 25.276987°N, 55.296249°E 43.7696°N, 11.2558°E 22.3193°N, 114.1694°E RELOAD 44.4268°N, 26.1025°E 24.7136°N, 46.6753°E 38.7223°N, 9.1393°W BATTERY POSITION 35.6895°N, 139.6917°E 30.5928°N, 114.3055°E BMU HUB 51.0447°N, 114.0719°W 47.6062°N, 122.3321°W 32.7767°N, 96.7970°W RELOAD

>>528024635
i'm a perfectionist and i wanted to make it like the main guys on ASS were singing it

>>528024647
Is this where dtroit is trapped and betrayed?

>>528023623
what are they gonna do, ban you in the past? who care.

>>528024867
it's where he's foreverial tiedup and loving it in the cave

>>528024336
AI is for fags, /diy/ https://voca.ro/1e7ah3cjxeBD

>>528024684
well feel free to do the verses then

>>528025075
New /4ccg/ chant

>>527982346
>3 GK
Why

>>528025310
i'm disheartened and dejected i can't carry on

>Latinx modder figured out how to add custom cutscenes to 17
The great Sudaca-Aoba alliance will sustain PES for decades.

>latinx

>>528025408
That was fairly standard during the plumber apprenticeship era

>>528026236
Yeah but, why, what's the logic behind it.

>>528026478
More = better

>>528026478
Better chance of getting a high condition GK. Maybe he just thought those 3 worked better as keepers in head canon.

>>528026478
/y/ has two players for each position which leaves 1 left over. Another keeper is another chance to put a high condition player in and it keeps things symmetric.

>>528026478
IRL teams are usually required to take 3 GKs to tournaments, so its seen as the normal number of GKs for a team to have
People were probably just copying what real squads looked like. I don't really know what height rules were like back then, but maybe they were more favourable so you fit in 3 GKs without punishing yourself on other subs.
Or perhaps people weren't thinking as much about condition rolls for outfield players vs GK performance.

>>528026478
This way when your keeper gets red carded, you'll still have a backup ;)

>>528025316
No, needs to be more pro-/4ccg/
>If you see me in the cytube, say hi
>But if you meet me in the thread, I'm a talkative guy
>Maybe we'll talk over melties and Guess the Scoreline
>And you know even when I'm seething I'm a 4chan guy
>And a lot of /admin/ fucking despise me
>They'd rather go circlejerk in their discord cliques
>Hopping into first bait just to cope and seethe
>All cause of what we're saying in /4ccg/

bored at work, here are some tits

why are you like this

Disgusting.

>slop
No thanks

Kys fatfucker

Which commentator would get off to this

>>528028134
Not Freakie, not fat enough for him

>>528026478
Less second A's and people didn't want to commit 3-4 bench players to a position they might use situationally so they had extra spots on the roster and just gave it to depth for better conditions.

>>528015682
She still is.

>>528023623
People like toki/ramen and DF/rigtor got into the cup when they were underage, and nowadays they're very open about that fact and no one gives a fuck.
The point of banning underage b&s is filtering a fuckton of annoying fucks, because about 98% of them are gonna reveal themselves to be immature kids (of course, many still are even after becoming 18, but there's no helping that), so there's no point in waiting until they do.
Congrats for being part of the 2%.

>>527983876
I do miss Iori though

>>528039878
impregnate

>>528039929
she's for anal tho

>>528040017
i dont want shit on my dick bro

>>528039878
Hot penis on forehead action

>>527988442
Who the fuck is supposed to score goals with 2 dummy runners up front? The AMFs?

>>528040269
You tell me

>>528040103
faggot

>>528040269
Both DRs are supposed to turn their brains off, smash into the enemy line and hope one makes it through I suppose.

>>528040103
Idols don't poop

>>528041353
They also don't do anal.

>>528041510
Iori does

>>528041510
>he doesn't know

>>528041510

>>528040881
but enough about you

>>528041510
look at this retard

>wah wah, it doesn't matter her name is literally anal idol, she doesn't like anal, wahhhh
kekaroo

>>528042682
>literally

>>528023623
Why are you constantly posting about your age, I don't think I've ever mentioned mine

I'm 53 years old and I watch the VGL

>>528043912
Hi QD

>>528041919
No sane person wants to be sodomized

>>528044135
>women and fags
Yeah checks out

>>528044135
I am the sodomizer

>>528044135
Haha, yeah…

anyone who likes things that i don't is mentally unstable

>>528045745
This but unironically

>>528045745
Shut the fuck up schizo

>>528039929
>>528040103
Iori is for her cunny https://exhentai.org/g/2514877/d515a533a7/
>>528039878
Same but it's hard to stay relevant with so many new characters

>>528045745
KWAB

I have anal sex with myself

>>528046508
>Iori is for her cunny
Said no /@/ fan ever

>>528046508
>Iori is for her cunny
So true

>>528046835
>>528046721
There are two voices inside my head.

/@/fags have been pretty uppity for a team that lost to the Mendoza line

>>528049478
being on the Mendoza Line does mean they are capable of beating a team down a man
>beat a team with a 90+6 only after they got a red card
>play equal to a mediocre auto
>die to a competent managed team
is peak Mendoza Line. doing enough that they can't be overlooked, but not enough to actually be a good team.

>>528050858
>>die to a competent managed team
The script...

>>528050858
/skg/ is gonna beat /wtg/ and make final day.

>>528052053
Many are saying this.

>>528051283
I would be very surprised if /skg/ beats /wtg/ and I don't even think /wtg/ are particularly good.

3-6-1 with 6 hole player AMFs and 1 DR SS

>>528055414
WAIT 6 DR AMFs and 1 DR SS

>FKFG in the club world cup

>>528056705
Should've run a different PES

>>528055414
/ag/ league is right around the corner.

>>528056705
is /akg/ participating?

>>528057248
Sorry, I'll go back to my 4-3-3

>>528057386
*gets put in a tryhards group*

>>528055414
Nonmedal hole player AMF with speeding bullet and track back, kino

phew, it's getting hot!
*takes off bejita hoodie*
*reveals I <3 4 atb shirt from underneath*

>>528056705
Is that the one no one is watching?

whats the standard timer for chants in rigdio

>>528061398
30 seconds is the default limit

>>528061398
30 seconds

>>528061517
>>528061527
thanks

>test against my mom's 4-4-2 with basic bitch sliders
>consistently gets double digit shots against me
throughball sloppers will get the rope

>>528062519
Me testing against /cm/ for over 3 years

VGL Chat Colors
Red - 14
Blue - 9
Orange - 6
White - 5
Pink - 4
Yellow - 4
Green - 3
Purple - 3
Teal - 2
Black - 1
Tan - 1

>>528064289
name which teams are in which category please, sorting autist-kun

Neo plumbers absolutely mind broken by PES 17

>>528064576
Red - /ddg/, /domg/, /egg/, /fgoalter/, /fgog/, /ggg/, /hanny/, /hbr/, /hsrg/, /lcg/, /skg/, /smbg/, /tf2g/, /wtg/
Blue - /@/, /alg/, /bag/, /gbfg/, /hgg2d/, /mjg/, /omg/, /snowg/, /utg/
Orange - /aceg/, /dbg/, /ink/, /kfg/, /pcrg/, /zzz/
White - /drg/, /esg/, /nikg/, /vn/, /xivg/
Pink - /gbpen/, /llsifg/, /mggg/, /pmmm/
Yellow - /gfg/, /hdg/, /smtg/, /wowg/
Green - /2hug/, /ksg/, /mmcg/
Purple - /nepgen/, /pg/, /uma/
Teal - /psg/, /vrg/
Black - /akg/
Tan - /gig/

>>528065709
>tan
>/gig/
CHURL'D

>>528065709
alter is blue though

>>528072171
Their wiki is incorrect then

>>528072409
Karth better get ready for his time in the Spanknasium then

>>528065709
oh and /pg/ is also black

>>528072996
>Karth
What does the /zzz/ guy have to do with /alter/

>>528065709
isn't /gfg/ more orange?

>>528073156
we're talking about team colors

>>528073156
They call themselves purple so I abide by their wiki. On a color chart it is a very very dark purple.
/akg/ is a very very dark blue but they go by black so I stuck with that.

>>528073245
Nah it's a dark shade of yellow

i like to suck dicks

>>528075874
Aoba...

>>528075874
Roonsoup...

>>528034760
I miss Captain Meido's full outfit

>>528015571
ive lost gallons to shatsu royas kig of korone
hes so into it too with all the petplay and leashes

>>528081030

vtumors, everyone

>>528081762
i dont care if you judge me, shatsu royas kigurumi is sex

>>528082201
But there are men inside the kigus..

how do i counter a 4-3-3...

>>528084865
You use THAT formation. You know the one.

>>528084865
Bro? Your 4-3-3?

>>528084865
3-5-2

>>528085517
>goes wide
heh

>>528086045
>LMF LMF
>DMF
>RMF RMF
OWARI DA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDtiO29v1Ac
/o/ goalhorn when?

>>528086368
when you suck a fart out of my ass

>>528087027
present your ass then

oh boy day 1 !
>>528082298
thats the best part i did say he

>vtumor
>gay
>has an obsession with shitting on the VGL
I need more to complete my bingo card

teams for this specific feel?

>>528090827
よりもあ◦な◦た!

>>528091126
and a ching chong to you too fellow /lcg/ fan

>>528090827
/tnm/...

[unsurprising news] psg is losing

>>528090658
im not shitting on it i just want bare minimum effort
just update the page nigger all of vglco is starting to crowd like 4ccco on people not updating wiki pages but you wont even update your most important page 2 weeks fucking late

>>528084865
use 4-2-3-1, trust me bro

>>528084865
3-5-2

>>528094053
how about you do it retard

>>528093447
WHAT

>>528090827
whichever idolshit team had that tiktok meme song as a chant

>>528095228
/llsifg/

>>528091720

nyext impyortant thryead nyow

>>528093447
A MID-TABLE TEAM FROM SOUTH AMERICA???? NOOOOO GIVE ME MONACO

>>528093447
nth time saying they should've added Rabbit Hole Miku to the team

>tipping results

Wiki: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_24_Tipping_Competition#Tips

>>528093447
a cup more mickey-mousey than VGL

>>528101462
>>528101462
>>528101462

Bake a new one

>>528101830
Cry more, /lcg/ hater

>>528101529
holy cringe

I wanted to make a UEFA joke but that thread is ass. The bad kind of ass, not the good kind of ass like this thread.

I will die with this /4ccg/ thread, Sou is a nigger for replying to the shit thread btw