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Beautiful bases edition

>What is this?
A mass-multiplayer survival game, set in the Dune universe.
A mix of PvE and PvP, focusing heavily on PvP in the endgame.

>Links
https://duneawakening.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172710/Dune_Awakening/?curator_clanid=33090091

> THREAD GUILDS:
US: Dune, Solitary, Sietch Tabr
EU: Spice Rats, Solaria, Sietch Tabr
Leave your character name or funcom id to be invited.

Anyone know the DD Sectors with the titanium and strashitium islands?

>>527758506
G7 Strashitium
H8 Titanium (Not confirmed)

this game is too addicting

>decide to summon ornithopter at the jaws of the Sentinel
>fly out
>instantly out of fuel
>go to refuel
>instead get bailed out
>land, start to go back to find my thopter
>... there's no vehicle marker for it
>check event log
>Scout Ornithopter has been destroyed by Shai-Hulud
What.
WHAT.
I was nowhere near open sand! How the fuck!

Why do people get so mad about being killed in DD? When I get shot down / blown up after switching to storage I know I got caught; that was the risk being taken. Are people going into DD to solo greed spice / etc before they can piss out like 2-3 mk5 (or at least 4+ wings/thruster) ornis an hour? Is that the issue, that they're risking their vehicles before really having production online?

>>527759885
All survival games are until you hit the plateau where the game has zero endgame except awful pvp.
>>527760791
Some pve style players don't want to fight at all. But the vast majority can agree being killed by gank squads, zergs, and cheap shit is gay as fuck.
It reminds me of sea of thieves where all pvp turned into faggy boarding instead of ship battles.

>>527758506
>>527758778
is it the same for all servers?

>>527761230
>Some pve style players don't want to fight at all.
That's fine, just don't expect everyone to feel the same way.
>But the vast majority can agree being killed by gank squads, zergs, and cheap shit is gay as fuck.
I haven't seen this yet but I assume it happens on servers with bigger guilds. In my case / for most people I've seen complain they're just getting rocketed ~2v1 while also being helpless.
>It reminds me of sea of thieves where all pvp turned into faggy boarding instead of ship battles.
SoT was a real mixed bag but boarding was probably too strong. For this game I think an unguided shoulder launched rocket should be in the T5 tech tree, and a lock-on launcher in T6.

I'm trying to pick the most populated server.

Does anyone know if OP's US one is that or is it just the server he's on with 5 friends?

>>527761230
>It reminds me of sea of thieves where all pvp turned into faggy boarding instead of ship battles.
Only happened because it was essentially impossible to sink another ship if the crew did a decent job manning and repairing it, boarding bypassed that issue

>>527762050
different anon but I think so, I found titanium in h8 yesterday like the other anon said. playing in Oceania server.

Kinda dissapointed they chose Dune over Star Wars for this, you could pretty much have the same game but expanded if it was Star Wars and no one gives a single shit about it's canon so you could pretty much do whatever, make up some random reason why you are stuck in a sand planet and call it a day. Im going to be honest I don't really care much for either IP but I think Star Wars would have just given them more freedom to add content in general.
However, this would also mean having to deal with SW fans AND Disney so it would probably end up in an absolute abomination.
Just something I thought while playing since it sort of reminded me of Jedi Knight at points for some reason.

>game crashed while I was gliding down a cliff

>>527764695
It baffles me that star wars was so big but nobody has made a sci-fi setting with blasters and knock off jedi.

>>527765693
There has to be some around, surely.

I unlocked the pentashield but can't find it in the construction tool. This isn't a great system.

>>527766028
>it's pentover

do the crashed ships drop good loot? I got the doors off it but it instantly spawned a worm and I never got to loot it, I still got killed anyway

>>527766028
You seem to have pent up frustration

>NOOO SMALL GROUPS CAN'T COMPETE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpE8_5rDubI

>>527766020
Wildstar was pretty close but that's about it.

>>527767724
Wow if I get totally kitted out and get lucky I can play my game!?

>>527767724
Thopter pvp actually looks neat. PvP in general looks good. Clearly not the melee meta people thought.
But that is clearly two roughly even groups fighting.
Also that trash talk is fucking terrible
>where you going, pussy? Where you going, pussy? Where you going?
We have moved back as a society.

>>527766020
bro the game that made Funcom a real company was Anarchy Online. a complete star wars rip off mmo

>>527768508
That's a 20 year old trashy mmo.

>>527768508
AO was many things, SW ripoff was not one of them.

>>527768405
>But that is clearly two roughly even groups fighting.
The winners were outnumbered 4 to 1

>>527768405
I don't remember gankers being this pathetic before. They either zerg in or flat-out run away when the odds are against them.

>>527766028
under utility

>>527769168
Normally when people say 4 to 1 they don't mean it's 4 against 16.
>>527769225
Streamers don't really care if they win or lose as long as they get content. Back when I played ark losses meant nothing to them because they got all their stuff from massive beta squads. The problem quickly became they would keep coming over and over.

>>527769836
>Normally when people say 4 to 1 they don't mean it's 4 against 16.
It could be 8 against 32.

>>527770150
The point stands that 1 guy gets run down but in a small group vs big group scenario the big group will spend half their time shooting each other.

>>527770453
based

>the AI is smart enough not to walk through poison clouds
huh

>>527770835
The AI is surprisingly good for the most part, unless you diddle them with a sniper, in which case they can't do anything.

>>527756195 (OP)
Good job making sure the old thread didn't archive before making the new one

>>527764695
>no one gives a single shit about it's canon
What?
>mean having to deal with SW fans AND Disney
This is more or less a canon issue, Disney decanonized a lot of the Expanded Universe lore and started adding their own bullshit that split the core autistic fanbase.

Anyway, the game you're talking about was called Star Wars Galaxies.

>>527765693
Haven't been paying attention to the palworld-Pokémon situation have ya?

>die and lose my shit
>lose all desire to ever play again
games for this feel?

>>527767724
God damn t6 orni is agile; that's nuts even compared to t5.

>>527772082
>Star Wars Galaxies
no, I said I want this game but SW.
What I mean about the SW canon is that its a fucking mess since Disney fucked it all up, and the vast majority of people that DO like SW don't really know shit about it aside from space wizard with laser sword, weird aliens, robots and laser guns, I too fall in this category for the most part.

>>527774589
Did you ever play Star Wars Galaxies? I guess it had no survival mechanics to force drinking water because it didn't just revolve around Tatooine but you could build cities in a lot of the planets and decorate your homes (though the home layouts were presets).
It had a robust class system that allowed for social classes like musicians, dancers and doctors that provided buffs to the crafting and combat classes too. There's been nothing like it since.

>>527774893
It's actually a good time to get into it as SWGEMU is finally complete.

>>527771771
Make the thread yourself next time then, faggot.
I only did so because clearly no one else was going to.

>>527772550
Assuming you didn't lose literally everything (the shiny new alu buggy you just built and all your base supplies since you were moving base) you should be fine.
It's not like you're starting from literally nothing again, right anon? Right?

>>527775508
If I had been here at the time I would've. Is there only a couple anons making the new threads?

>>527774893
No I didn't, looks cool from what I just read also just saw this >>527775447 too.
However im not submitting myself to mmo click combat ever again.

>>527775646
Speaking of losing everything, does not paying your taxes cause your shield to go down? I came across this player base with his shields down and some walls crumbling and the doors opened for me even though they were at level 3. His generators were fueled too. Anyway I did help myself to some (maybe all) of his goods before someone else did the same. I feel bad but... I had to

>>527775646
had my friend eaten just outside of the new base while carrying like half of our supplies lmao

>>527776106
Grim

guys is it possible to get the opposing factions building set somehow? or am I stuck with the one I side with?

Do any of you actually use the surveyor?

>>527768405
What do you expect when every game with an online chat room would ban you for just calling people gay over the past decade?

>>527776338
You can buy the cosmetics for one faction then defect to the other side. I don't think there's a way to stay one side and buy the other.

>>527772225
What nintendo are actually suing over is gliders and balls, of all things.

>build base in the middle of a throughfare
>build base so far out into the desert that driving around it gives you wormsign
Why.

>>527776338
>>527776996
There are black market traders in Arrakeen and Harko Village selling the other faction's stuff, it just costs double.

>>527776802
I'm pretty sure this is why the global chat is so dead too. Everyone is conditioned to not talk to each other.

>>527776092
no one seems to know how taxes work. my first character has $700 to pay. the one I started a few days ago owes $3,000.I haven't paid yet on either character. deciding if I abandon the first one. I got no clue if it depends where you build or what. I've heard you have 2-3 weeks after they are due to pay before they send the taxman after you

>>527777015
The playerbase is unutterably retarded, that's why.

>>527777942
You lose your claim. Whatever that means. No npcs show up or anything, I assume it just deletes your subfief console and lets your base get vulnerable to storms if I had to guess.

>>527777175
nice, I went harko but the atreides buildings look a lot comfier and don't clash so badly against the desert

>>527778865
I'm clashing rn

Where exactly is the black market vendor in Arrakeen and Harko Villages? You're supposed to be able to buy the opposing faction's shit at 2x price.

>>527777003
Exactly, so if a game comes out with laser swords and walking dog with a crossbow, they'll likely get sued into oblivion

>>527781476
I hate the world...

>>527781476
You can have laser swords in your media you just can't call them lightsabers, actually. Otherwise World of Warcraft would've been sued for having magic light swords since Burning Crusade.

>>527779480
In Harko its all the way in the back in the slums, behind the bene gesserit trainer

>>527775646
I literally had everything on me moving base and I went to go check a crashed ship
I dont know why, I just got chased by worms so many times I got complacent

>>527778972
poor yield dew harvests upon you, classheR

>go into DD
>russians and english speakers are crashing out on each other
>free entertainment while I glide in and out to get my shit

>>527782080
>Otherwise World of Warcraft would've been sued for having magic light swords since Burning Crusade.
True, as I was typing that post out I couldn't help thinking about the good old Phantom Blade

>Atrei uh dees
Who the fuck told them to say it like that?

>>527784810
Frank Herbert

>>527784810
Literally the author of the books. He had a reading session where he laid out a lot of the "correct" pronunciations of words in the series.

I hate mining these retarded pink crystals.

I also hate how my base is ugly and I am unable to build anything but shitty box

>>527785008
>>527785157
Well he should've written it properly then. Fucking stupid

>>527787314
>Herbert
>written it properly
Not asking you to read the books but at least read any wiki entry for a major character or event in the universe and you'll understand.
I suggest the "Fish Speakers" for example.

>>527787618
I did read the first.
The second made me fall asleep

>>527787618
>Duncan Idaho
pls understand

>>527786201
Just do what I do and let it expand organically.

What do we actually lose when we die in pvp?

>>527784810

My base feels empty without a bitch.
Where can I purchase a sex slave for my box crib.

>>527764695
Nigga they say this is an alternate timeline where Paul Atreides wasn't born, what else do you need to escape every "non-canon" accusation?

>>527791971
Fuck no, half of that is just wrong.

lmao I had 25k before I even built the refinery, havent been to the deep desert yet

>>527792364
I know you're joking but comparing to Conan Exiles its kindof true, the bases need NPCs, even if they're not thralls or called slaves or whatever. Like a "hirable" mentat that organizes your fabricators or something.

>>527791971
>>527784810

>native english speakers

LMAO at your funny ways to pronounce words

LMAO

>>527762125
https://dunestatus.com/

>>527794592
yet here you are speaking english

Female paul is cute
Feyd rautha is an eboy
Overall all the characters in the story are surprisingly likeable

never thought i'd see my shitty state in a video game. The closest I thought I would ever get was Far Cry 5

>>527796114
>he doesnt know

What's the point of poise when you get staggered every time after 3 hits anyways?

>>527797835
The stagger system is generally pretty stupid and it seemed like they struggled to implement slow attacks and gave up.

>>527796114

Why do so many Dune characters have modern names? But then some of them have futuristic ones?

>>527803295
How do I get down into the rift to farm crystals?

>>527803295
Certain parts of current and past human culture survived and continue to be used, look at us using Roman letters more than 2000 years old

>>527803295
cultural differences between different peoples.

>>527804675
Board the shoelace express

sell me all of your melange spiced coffee

>>527786201
>unable to build anything but shitty box
Just build a shitty box and then add the round window wall all over it

>>527803295
because it's like the year 10,000 and human culture is all sorts of whacky

>>527791137
You drop coins and schematics, but the thing is that in DD your orni will most likely be destroyed if someone kills you and that means you will have to walk back and then the worm will eat your ass and you end up losing everything on you instead of just coins and schematics

>>527794060
Really ruins the point of building a big ass fancy base when its just you.

>>527793831
How? Are you on a dead server and farmed all the small hagga basin spots or is it looted from chests somewhere?

>>527805814
Its called shitposting.

>>527805536
Ive had several people come by my base and tell me that they think I have a cool base. Showed one guy around and he was all like Woahh aahh so cool bro.
Makes it worth it

>>527796114
based muritard

>>527805814
>looted from chests somewhere?
you can get small amounts from chests in Hagga Basin.

>>527806339
I had someone come to my base uninvited.
And I knew he looked down at me disappointingly since it was a giant ugly box base.

Apparently if the door is open you can shigawire claw through it even if outsiders aren't restricted from entering.
Little ninja fuck somehow managed to see all the ugly insides of my base.

>>527806852
I know that, but bro says he had 25k. If that is the case then there must be some kind of trick to it because accumulating 25k from tiny amounts from chests seems implausible at this point in the game

>>527805426
Land somewhere your thopter won't get thumpered, hide and wait til fags are done looting your destroyed bird, pocket the remains and suicide off a rock.
You can repair everything but the chassis.

>>527806409
watch your fucking mouth, frank was american

>>527796114
>never thought i'd see my shitty state in a video game
It's named for Duncan Idaho, the guy Jason Mamoa played in the movies. Pretty sure he's in-game somewhere.

>>527760407
Rip, should have fuelled up

>>527807845
He is at Helius Gate

>>527760791
Because its boring. Asymmetric PvP isnt challenging, its a race to the bottom.

If you were good at PvP you would play a real PvP game like LoL. If you were good at PvE you would be a raider.

it feels like totally different people wrote the introductory Find the Fremen questline and the epilogue/Assassin's Handbook campaign. the Assassin's Handbook is actually interesting, has violence and dream imagery, and includes real Dune characters instead of literal who's. even the cutscenes and camera work are better, it's really weird.

>>527808184
I do like survival game pvp in the areas it actually excels at which is raiding bases built by other people in large groups against other large groups.
In every other way it just becomes either a gear fest, a gank fest, or just duos ambushing solos.

Gonna be honest bros.
I skipped every cutscene and every piece of dialogue.

I do NOT give a single fuck about Dunes story, it looks stupid it fucking IS stupid.
And I think its fucking dumb we live in a futuristic shithole and still have issues when it comes to drinking motherfucking water.

And I think the whole worm thing is fucking dumb as shit.

>give me attention reeee please daaad come baaaack

>>527808416
Apparently that was due to conditions the devs had to follow, they weren't allowed to feature the Fremen heavily in order not to spoiler the second movie, the game was meant to release between part one and two
So we'll probably see more of them in future content

Piter's voice actor in this game is S tier. Worth being hark just to hear him

>>527808787
You sound very rapeable. It's a compliment btw

>>527809073
agreed, he's really a stand out.
>>527808938
yea that makes sense, but it feels like they put their worst foot forward in terms of the presentation.

Chances that they fix the niggercopter PVP?

>>527808743
Yeah when its designed for it, its great like Rust. But Dune is a end game mess and it isnt going to work out how the devs imagined.

>>527809683
they're working on something to fix ramming people on the ground being a primary kill method but beyond that it's anybody's guess. idk what they could even do to fix it.

>>527809136
You can rape me with your mouth on my cock, faggot.
Now get into my box base and become my base bitch.

>>527809864
I never got past the beach and children screaming friendly while running at me with spears in Rust. Except at the very, very start of early access when they had the original map.

>>527809683
>Patch copter ramming
>Try this NEW pvp META
>"Chances that they fix the nigger[insert] PVP?"
>Patch [insert]
You dont hate the meta, you hate this type of PvP and you're right to

>>527810109
not that anon but i think indoor pvp objectives could really be a nice alternative and something they could just sprinkle onto the DD map. like crashed ships basically but bigger.

>>527809891
>. idk what they could even do to fix it.
It depends what they want to do.
>stop gank squads
Force house friendly fire so at least 50% of people you come across are on your side
>equalize spice earnings
Using those house alliances rework spice harvesting so there are organized pvpve harvesters on the map where you have to defend your house harvester with other players and everyone gets a big payout in the end.
As distasteful as forcing alliances is it's the only way to clamp down on turbofaggots and even then they'll do their best to teamkill if they can.

>quest has a The Good, the Bad and the Ugly reference
Funcom upping their game.

>>527810319
Its never going to work,any change to PvP will change PvE. Plus the exact reason why people like PvP in these games is to grief, it isnt about fights its specifically about how do I get a worm to make you lose everything.

>>527810490
Why exactly do these games attract such horrible people?

>>527810559
Its a rare type of game that lets you grief, so when they get the chance they take it. Most PvP games are fair and match based and you cant achieve the same type of PvP in them because they specifically stop it. A clan cant grief people in CoD or LoL.

As to why they do it its fun. In a horrible way you can get a lot of joy knowing you ruined someones night.

What's stopping me just propelling myself in the air with grappling hook/belt when I aggro the worm?
It completely resets it

>>527794993
>actual server numbers
based

>>527811591
What's interesting is they can't even do that much damage in Dune. But it also explains why they don't camp shipwrecks where they can legit only set people back 15 minutes at most.

>>527805814
he abused the no worm bug during headstart

>>527812151
Thats a good point, the ship wrecks are barren from start to finish, at least on my server and its a highly populated one too

I can't even find the second trial, I've looked everywhere
I'm going to google everything from now on

finally got the buggy. it's a whole new world, gents

>>527812638
it's the purple cave on the map.

>>527812976
>>527812638

>>527812810
i really like how distinct the gameplay phases are between early/foot, mid/buggy, and late/thopter

>>527812810
Getting mine today once I do the crystal grind, cannot wait to stop the bike and hand spam

>>527813631
bring a trike with a storage module. the crystals are heavier than most ores. the rift doesn't have storms so you can just leave your bike parked outside without storing it safely.

>>527813901
Is the exit on either end of the rift so you just drive a direction and can escape?

>>527814179
The rift runs in a reverse-mirror L shape, follow the lights and you will get up either down south or up northwest.

>>527814179
There are exits on both ends, but also on several levels of the rift there are side paths that go up at certain places

>>527814387
>>527814308
Cool thanks anons. I really like the rift as a zone first time I went was at night and it was pitch black, didnt expect that at all.

>>527813901
The rift is where being a solo player that can't really use the buggy hit the hardest. I nearly want to move my base closer to take advantage.

>t5 buggy requires t6 parts
that's kinda shitty. guess i'm headed into the DD earlier than i thought.

>>527812976
>>527813336
damn I'm a retard

>>527814901
You can get that from testing stations in the PvE part of DD

>>527814885
i made my base down in the rift. having no day/night cycle can be kind of gloomy i guess but if you set up way on the far end close to pinnacle station, you have good access to most resources. i timed my buggy drive from pinnacle tradepost to anvil tradepost following the rift from end to end and it was ~4:45.

>>527814901
All T6 can be done without PvP, but T6 is the end of the PvE part

>>527815057
oh nice, i didn't even know there was a pve part of the DD.

>>527812810
>Character actually sits outside
>We could have had a DD with PvE where you were limited by storms and enemies attacking you and your harvesters running teams of offensive players and mining players with bases being important temporary outposts to protect you from AI and storms
>Instead we got YOLO PVP WORM GOT YA HAHAHAH
God fucking dammit Funcom you KNEW this would happen.

>>527814901
you can buy these from Eve at the Crossroads

Make thopter rockets do dogshit damage to players outside of vehicles and the pvp is fixed

do thumpers actually work for their written duration? they say 300 seconds.. so does that mean tossing one down somewhere will occupy the local worm for 300 full seconds? or will it still veer off to hunt players on the sand?

>>527816014
People gotta get over this mentality that the problem is the game, rather than the players.

If you remove copters, it just introduces new ways for me to grief you. It won't change the reality of what the DD is, either I take everything or lose everything, but I sure as hell am not fighting you on fair ground. If I can one shot you with a sniper across the map, or smash you with a car, or hit you with a thousand rockets, I will.

>>527816514
To think I had a brief hope the deep desert fantasy would be me and 3 dudes driving across on a buggy for some subsistence living.

>>527816283
The worm will eat it in like 3 seconds, and its dubious on its ability to hold the worms attention. I've seen people have 5-10 thumpers down and still get eaten first in the DD.

I think it as a tool exists more as a meme rather than a real way to distract worms.

>>527816893
Had PvP been faction v faction and gear standardized it would have been fine. You join a faction, you donate to get credits, those credits are used for gear for the DD including vehicles, fair fights and war between players in the DD.

But there are clearly people at Funcom who enjoy griefing because they keep doing this shit over and over and being told by their players to cut it out. Its been a running problem for a decade.

Its worth driving the buggy down to Sheol. I was at half radiation when I had filled the 2500 buggy storage

>>527816893
Sorry, but you get endless dunes and people camping the odd rock you'll find out there with rocket launcher and missile scout thopter going WELCOME TO THE DUNE FIELDS MOTHERFUCKER.

do you ever use the bike again once you get a thopter?

How can they deniggerify pvp?

>>527817419
Nope.

>>527817438
Remove PvP, problem fixed.

>>527817213
I think they don't even need to standardize gear. They just need to remove the loss of gear on death, even your copter should just respawn with you. And instead let kills be credit for house cosmetics or something like the reaper faction in sea of thieves. That would kill all the fun for griefers.
>keep doing this shit over and over
I think Conan was one of the first games to add raid timers.

>>527817597
>I think Conan was one of the first games to add raid timers.
Which is what Funcom does, rather than fix the issue they try to work around it and it just doesn't work. They have to get over adding PvP to everything.

>>527817242
I just made a small base next to it and built a brand new buggy exclusively for mining jasmium. Good investment.

Real life has kept me from playing hardly at all; how fucked is the DD as a solo?

Is it just squadrons of mk6 ornis scouring every grid of the DD as happens in all these games?
Shroud's stream seems to just be him and his lads killing defenseless farmers that can't even afford rockets yet

>>527818127
Pvp being a thing isn't the issue imo, pvp players deserve content just as much as anyone. I say that as someone who typically dislikes pvp. The real issue is how the pvp is implemented. Right now it is simply a free for all, gank fest, griefers paradise. That needs to change. The solution isn't necessarily to just remove all pvp. Give those players some officially sanctioned mode to have fun in, and let the pve'ers have their own fun too. Right now nobody is happy with the deep desert.

I could waffle on with potential changes I think would work but ultimately it doesn't matter. My expectations are that funcom will ignore the real issues, maybe do some bandaid tweaks here and there, but mostly just move on to future dlc with different content style than the deep desert. I hope for better from funcom, but I don't expect it.

>>527818548
Yes.
You will be content for the streamer and you will like it.

>>527818548
Play on a low pop server. I play on a medium server and when I enter DD I stick all the way to the east or west wall and follow it until I find something of interest, havent encountered any people there yet. Seems most people are in the middle

>>527818620
>pvp players deserve content just as much as anyone.
They deserve to be segregated into their own hellscape, actually

>>527818620
>The real issue is how the pvp is implemented.
I challenge you to post a survival crafter game that has successfully implemented PvPvE.

In every single case of this, its always the exact same story. The PvE community makes up the majority and they are continuously antagonized by the griefing community. And its always the exact same bullshit excuses from the griefers that you want this come join us I promise you'll survive.

Conan did this, Funcom backtracked and had to tear PvP down. V Rising did this too recently, PvP also collapsed there. Sea of Thieves is doing this by promoting more PvP and its pissing off the majority of the community. Because its not actually PvP; CSGO/LoL even WoW has real PvP, what these people want is the chance to grief others.

>>527818548
Statistically we can't tell you shit anon, maybe you go hours without seeing a soul or maybe you get downed in 1 second and eaten by a worm while people go "GET FUCKED PUSSY". The question is do you enjoy the idea of posting an image of max tier gear and yapping about how hard/easy it was to get there or not.

>>527818620
>I hope for better from funcom, but I don't expect it.
They put a lot of effort into Conan toward the end.
>Give those players some officially sanctioned mode to have fun in,
Griefers don't want an officially sanctioned mode. They want to grief people who can't fight back. The entire deep desert needs to be changed so it's no longer a grief zone. The pvpers will then call it carebear fag shit, claim funcom ruined the game, and leave. I really would like them to manage two or three person teams scouting across the desert, but it's never gonna happen.

>>527819583
>even WoW has real PvP, what these people want is the chance to grief others.
They loved corpse camping a level 20 while they are level 80 though. My best record was one hour on a private server. He just sat on me and waited.

>>527819932
I meant more modern WoW which has done away with open world grief PvP and replaced it with match made ilvl standardized PvP.

>>527820142
i don't remember if this was hearsay but I heard there was huge lashback from the pvp community when they starndardized gear in legion because they couldn't stomp players anymore.
The russians were especially known for making premade groups in full pvp gear and decimating battlegrounds.

>>527820350
Yeah there was a backlash, and those people left and everyone else was grateful for it.

>>527819583
As you mentioned at the end, games like wow or league with built in modes of pvp are what the game needs. Game-ify it however they need to, but the current free for all system isn't it, not for anyone except griefers. But again, I do not expect funcom to do anything about this because its simply unreasonable, its too much dev work.

>>527819751
>Griefers don't want an officially sanctioned mode
I understand that perfectly and I agree. But griefers don't belong in a game like this imo, and seemingly in the opinion of the majority of players what with all the whining going on. Right now the griefers can get their temporary dopamine hit but at what cost? The game will absolutely die out if griefers are allowed to thrive as they currently do. Expand the landsraad stuff to allow for more balanced pvp for the reasonable people, let the griefers quit. They aren't healthy for the game and if they were honest with themselves, they would understand that. This isn't rust and should not be like rust.

Are split pve and pvp servers a solution, sure. Funcom has been pretty adamant about not doing that however, as retarded as it is.

I wanna invite someone to my base and then lock the doors and make them unable to leave

>>527819724
So are you like new to these games or what, lil bro?
What inevitably happens is every official server gets taken over by swarms of chinese or russian players, they use hacks and cheats and shit to know exactly where everyone that isn't them is.
They then aimbot noscope kill everyone from across the map using the infinite resources they duped / exploited until the server completely dies.

I'm asking if the game is there yet, or if it's going to take another week or two

>>527820797
>Are split pve and pvp servers a solution, sure
I think the bigger problem is outside the deep desert pvp there isn't any content except a bit more farming. But forcing friendly fire to extend to houses should be super simple to implement.

>>527821331
>outside the deep desert pvp there isn't any content except a bit more farming

True but this could easily be expanded upon. Take a note from funcoms old game anarchy online with its randomized mini dungeons. Player wants X loot, go create the minidungeon and fight for that loot. Or have repeatable/randomized contracts because currently once you've done them all, you're done. Each week post coriolis storm there should be a new set of contracts. Even simple stuff like someone lost track of their stash somewhere due to the storm, go find it as buried treasure (which is already a thing, theres just no real reason to search for it afaik). Glorified fetch quest, but its at least something. There are a million ways funcom could expand the game. The foundation they've set is mostly solid, its just the deep desert that I strongly disagree with. It just feels lazy and tacked on, thankfully it is entirely optional.

>>527821296
Retard

what's with the tranime avatarfagging

>>527821331
>I think the bigger problem is outside the deep desert pvp there isn't any content except a bit more farming.
Spice farming should have been the end game PvE content. It should have been solo/groups joining together to run big operations to harvest spice at the risk of worms. Instead of the easy to use worm sign, it should have been sight based so you needed scouts, there should have been multiple roles to work the sandcrawlers to harvest efficiently, there should have been the risk of AI attacking the crawler and a reason to bring carriers not just for the sandcrawler but for ground vehicles to fight off enemies as well with air support.

It pisses me off how they just said 'Fuck it, PvP' then quit any effort.

Why is the tranny lowercase posting?
No, you don't look cute lowercase posting like a middle school teenager.

Are they going to allow server transfers at some point? Not sure I would even want to do it because good base locations would probably be taken up already, but the server I'm on has like maybe 20+ people on in Hagga Basin at any given time according to the server website. You can definitely feel the lack of people compared to the early access week. Even the Deep desert feels oddly empty. I'v been able to do multiple testing lab runs in the pvp zone of the deep desert now solo and they'v never been looted and I'v yet to be ganked. I'd also be down for a fresh server but I doubt those are happening any time soon.

>>527823706
Probably not, instead they'll probably give people a reason to start again

Restarting again is going to feel like pure fucking cancer ain't gonna lie.

>>527824751
Its not so bad, I did it myself. I spent 3 or 4 days on a server before moving to a quieter one. Being more familiar with how the game works and where things are affords you much quicker progression, if you want it.

Just got ganked by two guys in light ornis with rockets, I was in my assault with storage. Not even mad it was fun as fuck to fly around and dodge their rockets, it took then ages to kill me.
Still shaking with adrenaline lmao. Peak gaming

>>527786201
Just steal someone else's base design

What's with the tranime avatarfagging?

>>527812810
>(Poor efficiency)

>>527824994
Well I'm not autistic, so I'd really hate the thought of starting the game again.
Especially how unfun the quests are.

>>527825619
Not him but buggy just grinds up the same amount whether you some time get "good efficiency" or "poor efficiency".

>>527825969
Is there any way to get it into analysis mode?

>>527812110
or you can just outrun it with bene sprint + belt

Tried to build a ramp to my house and ended up with this monstrosity due to insufficient stability and not having enough support, even though I bought a stake, all because the other directions were too close to other bases.

>>527825619
>>527825969
Buggie harvests more, analysis mode is a gimmick. Each tool has a stat that impacts how much they harvest, all buggie tools have a higher stat than handheld ones. Additionally both the cutter and vehicle specific passives from planetologist apply so you can get a higher bonus mining with a buggie than handheld in all situations.

Tier 2 planetologist is easy to get, advancing training is in the lab to the south west of the iron zone, just find him in the hole, follow the wall right and then return with his item. He'll want you to meet him back at his original spawn point when you first trained planetologist which is just a cheap 1200 fly there and back. Tier 3 is a lot harder, need a copter if you want to do it fast.

If I wear the boots that reduce vibrations, does that apply to vehicles?

>>527827790
Anon...

>>527827913
It's a video game.

>>527827959
You're silly

>>527827790
are you fred flintstone

>>527808787
>I do NOT give a single fuck about Dunes story, it looks stupid it fucking IS stupid.
Well friend you are gay, because like 70% of modern science fiction is derived from it or flat out rips it off.
>>527808787
>And I think its fucking dumb we live in a futuristic shithole and still have issues when it comes to drinking motherfucking water.
>And I think the whole worm thing is fucking dumb as shit.
Spoilers: Arrakis used to have a ton of water, but the sandworms terraformed it to be dry as a bone because water is incredibly toxic to them.

>>527828910
>Well friend you are gay, because like 70% of modern science fiction is derived from it or flat out rips it off.
Starship Troopers is like 50% of it at least

>>527793746
>write a book
>make up words
>tell people how to pronounce the words
>60 years later some retard on an anime imageboard says you're wrong

>replying to an animetard tourist
cmon now

>>527829048
>Starship Troopers is like 50% of it at least
mostly le epic satire made by people who are propagandized up to their eyeballs and are somehow too stupid to notice while making settings about people who are propagandized up to their eyeballs

>>527829371
Starship Troopers invented exosuits and power suits which is most of scifi these days. Also the book is not satire, the author was a life time military man who genuinely felt military service should be a prerequisite before the right to vote because it gave you a respect of violence and why you should avoid using it.

It was only the movie that was satire, because the director was a retard, proven by the fact that his satire actually showed how great a unified globalistic hegemony is.

>>527827790
The other anons are implying you're stupid but its a valid question. Sometimes these things work (un)intentionally because the stats get carried over or poor coding logic.

>>527829671
Which is valid because about half the skills actually don't work at all

>>527829723
The bannerlord/cyberpunk method of skills is certainly getting more popular.

>>527829630
Yes, and if you ask anyone that's a fan of works derived from Starship Troopers you will receive the standard bullshit about how he was "fascist", as if that rhetoric in itself is not propaganda. Thanks Verhoeven.

Copying the thread I made in /v/... Can anyone give me a rundown of this game? I'm a boomer who never got into MMO's, despite long time gaming since the 90's. I love Dune, but most of the reviews of this game keep referencing other MMO's like Rust, Almost Human, etc. don't help me really understand this game. Can I play by myself? I truly don't understand.

>>527829836
Kek this gives 'if a tree falls in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?' but instead its 'if a skill does nothing but everyone thinks it does something, does it do something?'

>>527829946
>I love Dune, but most of the reviews of this game keep referencing other MMO's like Rust, Almost Human, etc
It's Conan Exiles but set in Dune. Gather resources, build a base, fabricate your gear, etc.
>Can I play by myself?
Yes but it's still online. PvP is optional as long as you avoid shipwrecks and don't go to the Deep Desert.

>>527829946
you can totally get 100 hours out of it playing solo and enjoying the dune setting, it's done very well
the bolt on "end game" live service pvp shit is completely optional

>>527829946
This is a single player game with optional coop with friends or randoms with 99% of the content being PvE. You are put in a dangerous world and have to survive by grinding copper to make copper gear then moving into a new zone to get iron and make iron gear, rinse and repeat, with overhanging tunes of Dune being the setting and influencing the words/art/design.

There is also end game PvP in one very specific zone you have to opt into going to, but its bad, you can ignore it, and its highly likely to get shit canned because no one enjoys it. Without PvP the game has at least 50 to 100 hours of content.

>>527829946
>I'm a boomer who never got into MMO's,
The first step is realizing MMO is bullshit marketing. If they tried at all, they failed horribly.
Now that that's out of the way the game is a pretty generic survival game with a dune skin. You zoom around the desert and fight enemies to get loot and take that loot back to your base to get better gear to grind better loot. You can also build but there aren't a lot of cosmetics in the game yet. There might never be, and your base never gets attacked anyway.
Next there is the deep desert which is a giant desert where you can farm more loot to grind more gear but now people will grief you in 5v1 battles.

It's crazy how different the game feels after you start act 2.

>>527830105
>anon complains about reviews only referencing other MMO's because they don't understand any other MMO's as a reference.
>Goober mongoloid that you are, references yet another MMO
As others have said the "MMO" aspect is tacked on end game shit you can absolute live out your D U N C fantasy for ~100 hours or so.

>>527830834
>live out your D U N C fantasy for
When I see npcs living in moisture sealed caves I just think to myself damn, I should be living in one of those. Then I drink the 100ml of water they have between them and go back to my solo superfort when i have 100k to make metal bars with.

What happens if I don't pay taxes?

>>527764695
Nah desu the shielded melee combat makes it, and the idea of hearing the shrill star wars blaster 'pew pew' in every fight makes me puke

I FUCKING LOVE NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE SHIT FOR AN ENTIRE DAY HELL YEAH THANKS FUNCOM

Ive only found one Ray Amplifier in the mines, are they rare or am I missing something?

>>527831691
sardakaur nuke your base from orbit

>>527831691
angry polak with a sword breaks your knees

>>527823706
>Are they going to allow server transfers at some point?
the CM said today that they are working on transfer to different seitches on the same server.

I've never seen a saurdakar, only CHOAM mercs. Do they even exist in-game as enemies or is it just expansion bait?

>>527832314
I thought the npcs that fight the other npcs at every camp I go to were saurdakar

how tf did the saudarkar wipe out the fremen when most of them are in the southern hemisphere deep desert of arrakis and untouchable

>>527832535
they wiped out dn

>>527806967
You should have built him in and forced an unstuck.

>>527832597
Huh?

Oh shi-

>>527830834
>yet another MMO
Conan Exiles isn't an MMO you retard.

>>527832535
>What is a lie

>>527832314
In-game dialogue says the Sardaukar don't really do police action. They're a deathsquad, so they put off the wrangling of escaped prisoners onto CHOAM mercenaries.
>or is it just expansion bait?
Probably.

>>527834287
>Massive
Yes
>Multiplayer
Yes
>Always Online
Yes

Its an MMO

>>527834541
Whatever you say retard.

>>527834739
>No the Universe is wrong!
Uh huh

>>527834541
Conan can be multiplayer, yes. The other two are entirely wrong. Not massive, not always online. Stop lying.

>>527834790
>Play on server with +100 people on it
>Log off
>They all just stop playing
How polite of them anon

the novels make a big deal about 'water discipline' but there's like infinite blood in the desert

it's more like 'suspensor belt durability discipline' is important for exploring, not using it wastefully

>>527834764
Why bother arguing with a retard? You might as well be claiming Helldivers 2 is an MMORPG.

>>527834883
>play offline
>wow theres nobody else but me!
>but its totally an mmo right?

Again, Conan is not always online nor is it an mmo. You can play offline, you can host your own server and play with friends if you want, with mods if you wish. Or you can play on official servers and potentially deal with other players. You have options, unlike Dune which is in fact always online and closer to mmo than Conan is. This is your last (you) from me, retard.

>>527835353
>4 man matches in a non-persistent world
Not an MMO but thanks for playing

>>527835407
>Can play private offline versions of WoW
>"This is not an MMO!"
The backtracking to save face is really funny.

>only lose loot when you die
>people still cry about PvP
back in my day, survival games were full loot and we liked it

>>527835520
You can play Conan Exiles solo local, dipshit. By your own logic connecting to their online service does not make it an MMO. Now go eat shit.

>>527835713
Stop responding to bait.

can't wait to play the well known and beloved MMO Call of Duty later

>>527834973
the novels notably lacked camps of respawning enemies

>>527835713
And you can play it on a massively multiplayer online persistent world, funny that its commonly called an "MMO"

>>527835774
You're calling it bait because you're wrong and you realise it but your ego is so fragile you don't want to admit it. Its ok I accept your concession with your endlessly namecalling to save face.

where the hell do I get more swatches

>>527835796
>No persistent world
Imagine being this stupid lol

>>527836564
At the cities, either the faction trader or the smuggler

>>527835557
No one is talking about PvP at ships. They're talking about the DD where people are purposefully making you lose everything to worms.

>>527836685
So is Valheim an MMO?

>>527829946
The game doesn't really have anything to offer once you are done advancing through the ages. Copper age, steel age, Iron age etc until plastic, spice infused.
Each tier is fairly well done as you snowball into mass production from foot to bike to buggy to copter, then partial step upgrades with higher marks of those vehicles.
You can play by yourself but depending on the server you choose, you may get locked out of your character if it is a high population server and the server is full during primetime.

Players mostly harass eachother in the dedicated shitting street portion of end game like third world nigger mogolioid rape babies as most are, but you can stick to your own area and not be bothered unless you annoy one of these cretins and draw attention to yourself and can get a month's worth of game out of a day's worth of income.

>>527837189
One more thing, the game is owned by Chinese so expect your data harvested and sold in an eventual 'hack' to their server storage down the line ala Sony every few years.

is the Landsraad weapon vendor in the cities?

>>527837131
>1-10 players
No. Conan could get to +70 at once in comparison.

>>527837426
Yeah for the side that won

>NPC killed herself with a grenade
should've stayed in the kitchen dumb cunt

>First buggy
>Just harvest Iron went from 55 from each rock to 166
God damn

Are you guys actually playing with each other on that server?

>>527841683
No.

>>527841909
really?

>>527841924
What do you think, he would just go on the internet and tell lies?

Really though, I'm also not playing with the 4chan guild. I couldn't even join that sietch, or any sietch of that server on release day. The few times I've check since then it has remained locked at all hours of the day. I'm on my own, still having fun.

>>527841924
Not that guy but I have crippling social anxiety. The only place I talk to other people is 4chan and only because of anonymity and I still get extreme anxiety just pushing the post button.

I'd never join a guild in any game.

>>527841924
Why the hell would I play with random losers

Finally finished my Base autism for now, until i can swap CHOAM for Atreides

>>527843520
2/2

>>527795013
You speak English because it's the only language you know.
I speak English because it's the only language you know.

>>527844175
Je parle francais, aussie.
Salop

>>527807961
It was at 100%, all the fuel evaporated the moment I took to the air because I was so high up

>>527844419
The one time I bailed out on accident, the thopter glided so far away. If you were even remotely near a map edge, it could have easily flown out of bounds. I'm pretty sure the worm gets everything that goes out there.

>>527843661
>The worms have hit the second tower

>>527843661
i like it. bridging the gap in the sand there was a particularly nice touch. wish there were glass floors so you could look down out of things you build above.

>>527846542
put the horizontal pentashield on the floor. Then just carefully walk along the edges

Are servers just fucked right now or is this rubber banding something on my end? I've tried about a half dozen servers, populated, and empty, and I just keep rubber banding every 10 seconds or so. Run over to a block of wreckage and whip out my cutter, it doesn't scan, I teleport 30 meters back to where I started.
Is this a feature exclusive to the noob areas or something?

>>527846743
Thats just the game being shit its not your end

are there any patch notes or something for the update

>>527846743
I have not had any issues today, nor have I ever had rubberbanding like you describe. The worst I get is when trying to climb over an edge and my character will just bounce up and down without actually vaulting over the edge, but never moving back 30m. I would say it could be just your particular server but since you've tried a bunch of different ones, its probably something on your end.

How many times can I expand my base?

>>527846675
haha it would be nice if you could just set pentashield to reject everyone and just walk down the middle. would also be nice if there were diagonal/45 degree angle pentashields to match the sloped inclines and open up prettier gate designs instead of the massive 4x4-6x6 panels we have to use now

>>527843661
>>527846525
Inshai-hulud.

>>527846981
not yet

>>527846743
the only time ive ever gotten issues like that is during periods of server instability and the ping would pop up in yellow text at the top right while it was happening. would start and clear up within ~30 seconds. been fine for me today. euros seem to be having more issues with server stability than others if that's the region you're in.

>>527847172
5 times horizontally max (largest plot size is 2x3 fief/stake units) and 5 times vertically max (it raises the height over every horizontal square simultaneously, so you only ever really need one or two unless you're building up a mountain/pillar)

Back to work wagie

>>527847078
>its probably something on your end.
You know, I was worried, tried the server listed in the OP, and I haven't noticed any rubber banding now. I guess it was temporary, but happening right when I was trying this game for the first time. Let's see how it goes.

>>527844175
English is the only language I know because there's no need for me to know any other language.

>>527826450
Just put down a foundation below the ramp

>>527849270
This. Add square foundation blocks under each ramp and conceal with wedge walls

>>527847524
>and
Rad, I was worried about my horizontals interfering with my verticals. Now I'll stop worrying about my tower of power's height, thanks anon

>>527847607
I had to do some renovating to get enough space for an Ornithopter hangar. The good news is that my living quarters look great. The bad news is that I am now a rectangle.

What are sinkcharts for?

>>527852626
In theory; you drive/fly around with a scout attachment and record the location of everything automatically, then use a sink-chart to put that information on it and sell it to someone so they know where resources are.

In reality; Absolutely sweet fuck all.

>>527852897
Jesus, that's retarded. Player driven economies almost never work. Eve managed to do it, but it took years, and far more autism than I could ever muster

And where the fuck do I get the diamond dust for the orni? I FINALLY managed to grind out the mk4 buggy cutterray, now its just one long trip to mine aluminium, and that fucking dust and carbide, which I have no idea where to get

>>527853146
>where the fuck do I get the diamond dust for the orni?

Here, just northwest of crossroads trading post. It is relatively uncommon but you should get enough in one full clear of the place.

>>527853576
ty

>>527853576
>>527853146
There's a contract at that trading post to clear the place, if its your first time that way its highly recommended to do it as it awards a pretty decent stillsuit.

>>527852626
>>527852897
sinkcharts are really just to share your uncovered map with your friends.

>>527756195 (OP)
Fuck... I didn't realize I should check here before going in, now I'm 80+ hours deep on the wrong server and don't want to join a normie guild. I'm expecting to hit a brick wall beyond T5 soon

i have a 5700xt, am i going to suffer playing this game

>>527856231
Na it has a laptop mode for you

>>527856231
To be fair, everyone suffers playing this game

>>527853146
You think thats stupid, how about this; Funcom though PvE players would grind resources for PvP players who would buy them to use them in the DD.

Clearly forgetting anyone greasy and sweaty enough to want to go into the DD would have farmed it themselves.

Raping thopter niggas with the good old lasgun glide is kino

>>527852897
>>527853146
That's just another case of "devs never played genre of game they're developing".

>>527852504
I saw this and started playing and then they changed it to 7am utc...

>>527857764
It also says Jun 13

Is the Karpov viable at all late game? I love the look of it but everyone's shielded

maintenance?

>>527858709
yes

>>527856407
...holy shit.

>>527857764
I just got through a hard fight at Mas Karet. The two minigun niggas almost rekt me.

AND THE FUCKING SERVER WENT DOWN

I'm seriously considering uninstalling. The game is still addctive, but holy FUCK there's so many stupid, infuriating fucking things about it

How come I can pick up dead bodies but I can't make slaves.
Dune world is shit.

>>527858839
bro? maintenance was announced 12 hours ago

What power generators r u guys using?

>>527858886
I wish they could put in a thrall system post-expansion so human water consumption and water discipline could become relevant in the calculus of power, like it is thematically in the books, instead of being mainly a way to refine shiny rocks

Duraluminum takes so much water to make. What’s a good water setup at this point?

>>527859194
advanced death stills

>>527859194
Advanced deathstills

>takes 1 hour to use the deathstill

>>527859117
Yeah, we need NPCs in the base, too lonely without them.

>>527859240
>>527859259
>Power Cost 500

>>527858886
There's so much this game could do right, but didn't. Melee combat is just the most egregious example. I can't get over the fact that it feels like something from 2010. There's one fucking knife stab animation, ONE. The slow shield penetration looks like a faggy poke or smth. Jesus Christ its comical just how half assed and bad it is! It's 20 fucking 25, for Gods sake, is it too much to expect fun combat mechanics from a game based on Dune? You know, the universe where everybody fights with fucking knives and swords? The whole game in general hass MAss Effect 1 vibes, especially once you get to Arrakeen and Harko. Think about it, and you won't be able to unsee it, that's 2008 design. For Christs sake, there are three types of enemies, guy with sword, guy with gun, guy with minigun, and two of those can have shields, that's it. And you seriously expect a fucking thrall mechanic? Those Funcom incompetents couldn't make it work properly in Conan for a decade now.

In short, I don't even know why this game has kept my attention for as long as it has. I guess that's why I'm so annoyed. I want to like it, but I just can't

Why can’t I use the voice to turn desert women into my live-in maids

>>527859469
Wind turbines.

>>527859469
Expand your base and build 40 regular generators and you'll never worry about power again

>>527859012
I mostly use the basic generators. As boring as it is they seem to be the most efficient. Just need enough space to spam them.

I want to fuck the smug criminal lady.

>make a character half-assedly, assuming there will be a way to change my appearance later
WELL WHY WOULD I FUCKING EXPECT THAT, HUH? WHY WOULD I EXPECT A WAY TO CHANGE MY CHARACTERS APPEARANCE, LIKE IN EVERY RPG GAME FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OR SO

>>527860072
they said they'll add it later in an update

>>527860072
didn't bg3 not have one on launch? anyway joel said they'll add it

>make my character an ugly bald fucker to live up to my idol (movie) feyd rautha
>he's a pretty good looking guy in this game
FUCK YOU

>avatarposters continue to multiply

>>527860161
>ugly bald fucker
>feyd rautha

Unironically despite it feeling so "aged" in so many ways.
I think the fact the game lacks loading screens makes this game feel so addicting.

It genuinely helps, just feels like there is no "break" in the game, its just a nonstop session, makes it hard to put down when there is no pause during anything you do.

>>527860275
>the game lacks loading screens
I assume you mean for stuff like testing stations, bases etc.

>>527860275
yeah that changes when you got a shitload of deep desert mats to ferry back to your main base which is going to be a ongoing thing that's already getting very tedious

>>527860385
he hasn't played past the midgame yet because he's too busy complain posting here so he doesn't know how much more often the game asks you to load in the late game yet.

>>527860403
does the carryall even have storage or is the assault thopter the best transport to DD?

>>527860229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDg1Wi0o3KQ

>>527860385
>>527860403
>>527860475
No one fucking cares about your shit garbage DD

You cant craft spice-infused materials?

>>527860594
all of the trainer and faction quests you pretend to be busy with require you to eat three load screens each in the late game too.

Is planetologist worth unlocking?

>>527860229
If I could take screenshots without my character in them I would.

>>527860951
Yes, unlock it first thing you do

>>527860951
100%

>>527860925
it got so bad at one point I would only go to the cities if I had 3 or more quests to hand in at the same place

>>527860951
Would you like to have significantly increased power efficiency, durability retention on all gear and vehicle parts, and higher fuel efficiency?

>>527860951
most important skill tree in the game but the most unintuitive and retarded quest line ever

>>527860998
yea i know it got crazy lol. they fooled me once or twice but after that i started completely clearing all of my quests before turning in bulk just like you.
>get quest in hagga basin to report to harko
>harko tells you to go to a new icon on the world map
>back to harko
>back to hagga basin for a total of 4 load screens for one (1) short quest

>>527860951
unlock it early and always do the his contracts so you can naturally find him in future science stations without having to google where the fuck he is all the time

Quests feel so tacked on its hard to do them.
I just finally got done with the main quest.

I'm too busy grinding materials to have the time to ever go out and do the faction quests

>>527860161
Feyd was supposed to be a handsome bastard, according to the books. And the film one still isn't ugly per se, just makes questionable fashion choices.

>>527860236
Sting is such a delectable strip of fuckmeat, no wonder his fat uncle likes having him around all the time

>>527861431
>the film one still isn't ugly per se
i'm gonna go ahead and press X to doubt

>>527861557
why the fuck does looking at him make me hear Francis E. Dec ranting about gangster frankenstein controls in my head?

>water doesn't matter in the desert, just go to the Kirab camp 7/11 that exists every 50 meters and get a refreshing pack of blood
How could they fuck this up so badly

>>527861557
speaking relatively, he is handsome

>>527861557
Meanwhile, in bizarro world

>>527861130
It only works if you do it alongside every other class and side quest simultaneously, as you encounter them. Otherwise you end up running the same testing station multiple times like I did.

>>527861235
the worst is that the overworld map feels so pointless right now it's just like a even longer interactive loading screen

>>527861557
Yeah the black and white WoD Nosferatu Harkonnens don't do it for me, probably the single shitty design decision in the movie.

It's funny too since Jews canonically only exist in Geidi Prime. So imagine all those bald black and white freaks wearing kippahs

>>527861885
Fr? I missed that part of the lore, I thought the Jews finally got what they deserved. I assumed they got genocided alongside the machines

>>527861885
>So imagine all those bald black and white freaks wearing kippahs
hardest kek of the day

>>527861696
the respawn rates of all loot is simply too high, I wish we could lower it in private servers.

>>527861874
I hate that its so zoomed in

>>527861885
>Jews canonically only exist in Geidi Prime. So imagine all those bald black and white freaks wearing kippahs
>Harkonnens are masters of...elaborate schemes, calculated betrayals, and a willingness to manipulate others

uh

>>527861696
It's just an MMO with some good worldbuilding and impressive set pieces, Anon. Mechanistically, its just an MMO. Nothing more, nothing less. What I'm most curious about is- why? Why did they choose this? They had the freedom to do something different. Was it laziness, did they figure that it was just easier to copy what was done before? Cowardice? Were they afraid that if they did not copy what was done before, they'd be taking too much risk?

Either way, that;s the end result. An MMO turd in a semi-decent wrapping.

>>527861874
>>527862285
It feels as though there was supposed to be some content there that was cut, with the fuel, water and npc ships flying around. Maybe we would have been able to intercept them and steal their resources, or even other players. There's no other reason why there would be a player queue for the world map.

>>527862051
>I thought the Jews finally got what they deserved
Dune's crazy. There's Zensunni that worship Buddhallah, which is exactly what it sounds like.

>>527862436
That happens when you switch to the passanger seat instead of the turret.

>>527862529
it's either cut or planned content, wtf even happens if you run out of fuel? I didn't want to find out myself

>>527862574
I remember that part of the lore. Funnily enough, I could even see it working, we're talking over 10 thousand years of history. Catholicism is itself an amalgam of various Zoroastrian and Pagan beliefs.

>>527862604
>switch to the passanger seat instead of the turret
i fucking hate this switching shit
we need either to be able to use cutter from driver's seat or increase cutter's range

https://duneawakening.com/news/dune-awakening-1-1-0-5-patch-notes/#11015

>>527862436
See >>527828212

>>527863001
>Players no longer receive damage when hit by vehicles.

>>527863001
>Players no longer receive damage when hit by vehicles.

>>527862436
i had that happen once or twice with the trike except i was riding it from ~15 feet in the air instead of in the ground

That's something at least.

>>527863001
I hope the vehicle damage is just a band-aid and it returns once they tweak pvp more.

>>527854967
It doesn't really matter. The best way is to get a grouo of your irl friends in a guild of like 4-8 people.

servers up

>>527819583
>>527819932
>>527819583

you know to gankers the fact that you're still butthurt 15 years later and it became a core memory about how you were raped in a video game is like ambrosia right? i'm gettin a stiffy just thinking about the anguish he caused you.

>>527863628

>>527863628
you're literally a subhuman animal, not a human being

>>527863836
That is also giving him a stiffy. Anon you must understand, those are people who are filled with rage, spite and malice at the world, but they're also too impotent to take it out on real people in the real world. Best second thing is griefing in online video games. It's a way to channel their spite and evil without taking personal risks.

The only way to deal with them is to completely ignore and avoid them. They wither and die without your salt.

I want to be Elara's kitten

>>527864427
You already are

Ari is my wife

>>527864368
>people who are filled with rage, spite and malice at the world, but they're also too impotent to take it out on real people in the real world
that's why he is a subhuman animal, he should put his hand in the box.

Do I want to play this game for 75 dollarydoos, or should I trial it via Conan Exiles for 13 dollarydoos first? I have never played any survival crafts, but the trailers for this game are very enticing.

>>527864695
This game is nothing like conan

>>527864695
Conan looks like shit. I never played it but I saw a youtube video.

>I know what I must do...but I don't know if I have the strength to do it...Chani...the Harkonnen's are gonna fuck my butt in the deep dunes, I can't go south.

>>527864504
Good

>>527864695
The trailers are all lies. The game is NOTHING like the trailers. If you're expecting some next-gen roleplaying experience, you won't get it here. It's a bog-standard MMO with some decent basebuilding, some nice environments and set pieces, and the worm is pretty cool. That's about it. There's three enemies. THREE. Guy with gun, guy with sword, guy with big gun. Two of them may or may not have shields. That's literally it.

I mean it, EVERYTHING about the trailers is a lie. We're still stuck here because we're retarded, but don't get the game for the trailers.

>>527864754
Conan is the opposite. It actually has some soul nowadays, and even some semi-decent content. It looks pretty cool when you're actually playing it

>>527864908
you forgot the sniper

>>527864967
Oh I have? Maybe because he's utterly forgettable, I apologise, game officially saved

>>527864908
Guess I'll just try Conan for now then. Thanks anon. I was just worried that if Conan is unpolished it would be a bad introduction to the genre and would turn me off other games or Dune once Dune gets more content

>>527865289
And if some half brained RETARD says something along the lines of "well its Dune, what do you expect, there are no aliens, and no native wildlife" I'm going to find you and KILL YOU IN YOUR SLEEP. The Bene Tleilax has ENDLESS varieties of monstrosities to choose from, you saw some in the films. Add to that the wyrding properties of Spice, and you pretty much can do anything the fuck you want with enemy design, you could have goddamned Dark Souls bosses if you wanted to. But nothing of the sort will be done, none of those avenues will be explored, because Funcom is a bunch of rotten money grabbing cunts, and they don't give a single shit.

Fucks sake, look, I had fun for the last three days, I really did, despite everything. But the more I think about what could've been vs what we got, the more I feel fucking insulted. It doesn't help that the game is essentially a goddamned MMO, with none of the things that make MMO's appealing. They copied the style of MMO's of the last two decades almost entirely, and I have NO idea why the fuck they did it. It blows my mind. Just why?

>>527865665
Conan is a lot better than it used to be, but I'd be lying if I said its perfect. It's fun to a certain kind of person.

>>527863468
Out of my regulars only one person was willing to join the game, the rest somehow decided to make this the release they skip on for some reason.

>>527864695
Cant believe anyone is suggesting Conan, its dogshit. Play Dune.

>>527863269
Nice, now just delete PvP.

>>527859469
The base power gens are very efficient if you're willing to do a small amount of power cell grinding which shouldnt take long with a buggy, one power cell will give at least one gens worth and thats 20 days.

>>527866072
Dune is even more dogshit than Conan, and if you disagree you're retarded and suffering from sunk cost fallacy and cognitive dissonance.

>>527865980
They saw how dogshit the combat system was, and were smart enough to extrapolate about the quality of the game from that?

>>527866072
but you can be big breasted naked lady

>>527866358
Fucking lmao no. Take your gay propaganda and stay on your general. Oh wait its dead kek thats what you get for a shit game for femboys.

>>527866392
Get laid

>>527866438
I haven't played Conan in a while. And your general will be dead and forgotten in 3 months time. There's nothing to keep people fucking playing Dune. I managed 3 days, and I'm completely out of fucking patience for the RETARDED design decisions. Not bugs, not mistakes, fucking premeditated decisions on how to structure the game loop, enemy design, and the actively hostile quality of life choices.

>>527866072
Conan has
>the same gameplay loop
>Cooler art direction due to all the ruins
>a variety of biones
>significantly more decorative options
>significantly more pve content in the form of dungeons, unlockables, and enemy variety
>More of a story told to you through the rocks you find
And although nobody really does it it has a plot you can follow. They also added companion quests in the final update a few months back. The only place Conan falls flat is the slightly worse graphics. Even the combat is close to the same except without the class skills, which you are limited to a rather pitiful number of in Dune because they clearly primed it for console release and limited the amount for controllers.

>>527866576
Yes yes you only play gay propaganda we know. Now go back to /hm/ and stay there.

>>527866608
No.

>post sent from hagga basin south, kirito atreides

>>527866576
>>527866634
Btw, I know what you are. You are a PvP goblin. You want more solo players to gank on with your faggot guild buddies. You won't fight guild to guild, that would be too competitive. You faggots run the instant the fight even hints at becoming fair. So you lie to people to rope them in, so you can crash ornithopters into them. I guess this new patch took that away from you, which is why you're so cranky. Don't worry, I'm sure you'll find new ways to grief for absolutely no gain whatsoever

>>527866608
Are the graphics worse? Dune has some good effects, the storms are great, the worms look cool af. But the building system is literally the same as Conan, and the moment to moment gameplay doesn't really look all that great.

>>527866608
To be completely honets - majority if all this were added after CE release.
Hell, we had 5 building sets on release.

>>527866803
I think PvP should be deleted from both games nice try gaylord.

>>527866851
and the first two were breakable by steel swords and no climbing and if you had a slaver rope equipped your mainhand had no swing timer so you can turbo chop people to pieces and nobody was aware, i played on the conan vg servers (3 of them) and each time the admin just busted my shit to get into my base. one of his buddies had godmode one time.

>>527866851
I remember Conan at the start, it was incredibly shit. I even remember when there were no dungeons. So, ok, MAYBE there's a chance Dune will become less shit with time, assuming Funcom sticks to it. Some things will never be fixed, for instance I doubt they'll do anything with the core combat system. We'll be stuck with one knife animation set for all eternity, I just fucking know it.

>>527867120
>one knife animation set for all eternity
minor quibble but there are three sets of animations for melee weapons: short/dagger, longsword, and rapier

>>527866891
So you're being a shitstain because you're just as frustrated with Funcoms idiotic, malicious incompetence as I am, but you're misplacing it onto me, got it

>>527867182
Dune is a fantastic game, stay mad

>>527867175
also i kinda wish players could get those kungfu moves that the maas kharet guys can pull on you.

>>527867175
I did say knife. I like knives, its my main melee weapon. I haven't tried rapier yet, desu.

Look, even KOTOR had lighstaber forms, for Gods sakes. That was what, 20 years ago? There's so many things that can be done with combat mechanics these days, so many ways to make them fun and engaging. I honestly think they made it simplistic on purpose, because they desperately want their game to be a live service MMO. Well, that and incompetence.

>>527867294
How the hell is it a fantastic game? Everything I said is true. Four enemy varieties, one moveset per weapon, bad quality of life choices, hubs that are pretty much the Citadel from ME1, complete with the vibe, I could go on. Did I tell a single fucking lie? I'm not even touching the PvP idiocy, I agree that the whole thing should just be scrapped.

>>527867312
you can

>>527867468
how!?

>>527867418
Get over yourself. Like a toddler mad that others are having fun with a good game.

>>527867504

>>527867418
I could list reasons for days on why its not a bad game and you would just ignore them because clearly you lack intelligence and have anger issues and are just saying nonsense. Your bad grammar and swearing proves that easily.

>>527867548
I'm mad that you're giving support to a company that deliberately makes shit games, because they know you'll lap it up and keep buying their dlcs.

Anyway, I really will fuck off now. I just realised what a huge waste of time this is.

>>527867576
wow right in my face in a tree that i'm using and i didn't notice lol. i guess i didn't translate strikes to mean fist strikes, but i'm not a lore buff so it was probably obvious to people that are by its name.

The fuck do you use ship manifests for?

>>527867637
Name three that I didn't name already.

>>527867669
Yes your life is a waste of time now shoo child, I accept your concession

>>527867717
Reading comprehension is not your strong suit is it

>>527867730
You write like a 12 year old, btw

>>527867810
I simply ask you to name three reasons this game is good. You don't have to spend all day doing that, it should be super simple.

i just started hitting the end of the steel age, and i'm holed up right around here.
should i start making a second base in Eifrit near the trade post or something? making the trip back and forth in a bike with an inventory seems like a quick way to get wormed / waste time.
is it worth just keeping one base and relocate it all? I cant seem to ever find iron anywhere else but vermillion

>>527867953
iron only spawns in vermillion. it's easy enough to load up one buggy-full and have enough to last you basically forever though. you probably want to be closer to aluminum/basalt or carbon/crystals. better yet, relocate to somewhere on the border of both, like near pinnacle station.

>>527867953
Base location is pretty much the most important decision you can make. I think the only reasonable place is northeast end of West Vermillion. Access to aluminium, and from there you get ornis.

And yeah, managing multiple bases is a pain in the dick.

>>527867953
>>527868105
also lol i was holed up right across from you for that entire same period of the game (green).

>>527866851
I never said otherwise. You shouldn't buy a game based on what it could be unless that game is star citizen.

>>527867953
It really isn't much of a difference either way, we're talking an extra couple minutes to go from where you base is now to be closer to other resources

>>527867912
>Why yes take my bait
Na, go shitpost somewhere else

So where do I get these rare schematics? DD?

>>527864695
i gave them my 75 dollarydoos, and it's pretty fun.

>>527868757
I'm really not happy with my base, especially considering the time I sunk into trying to make it look okay. Should I make each level higher than one tile or is there some other key mistake I'm making?

>>527865665
>>527865774
I don't think Conan is gonna work out after all. I should have prefaced my question with the fact that I'm an Ausfag.

Didn't mean to reply, apologies.

>>527869059
top is too flat, all around layout is too boxy. add (or remove) to create some asymmetry and add some variance in height somewhere on the top. a tower, a balcony, a gazebo, something.

>>527868236
what the fug bros we all watched the "set up here for easy aluminum" video

>>527869450
nah, the videos all say to set up west around the crashed ship. i just went to anvil like the quest told me and every single parcel of land on both sides of the gap were loaded with noob cubes so i walked around the corner and plopped my fief down next to a bunch of iron nodes i found.

>>527869059
>>527869234
This, and add height to it. Turn the second floor into the third floor. Long ass stairs will give a sense of gravitas and will also make the base look less scrunched in

>>527869059
For one you didn't use the roof tiles and instead just put a flat surface

>>527762050
>>527762330
It is the same for all servers I believe, after watching a few streamers from different servers.

>>527818620
Was doing a testing facility in the DD, left my assault ornith outside, slightly hidden, come back to getting shot at by 10 scouts with rockets.

>>527863269
respawn time change in pvp zones is insane, makes sense for actual pvp shit but there are also pve zones in the DD with overtuned spongebob mobs that will almost instakill you if youre downed.

>>527868757
pve zones in DD but the devs say that they are ultra rare and only certain ones spawn per DD cycle.

How often are sandstorms? Like if one happens, how long until a second comes?

>>527869927
Random in basin but I've never seen two in the span of 30 mins. In DD, sandstorm chance is increased as more players reach the DD player cap.

>>527869234
Yeah, height seems about right.
>>527869620
>Turn the second floor into the third floor
What do you mean? Add a third floor or change how much height each floor has?

>>527869827
Not sure how to use other roof tiles in a way that makes sense, I'll give it a try.

>>527870407
Alright thanks anon, trying to time when I buggie out, don't want to get caught in the middle of nowhere with it

Is there any way to get to tier 6 without venturing into PvP Deep Desert? The A plots seem empty as fuck, with the occasional PvP-flagged wreck. I fucking hate PvP in survival games.

>>527871041
Not really no. You've finished gear progression. Only easy way would be to buy the parts from the player.

our drills will pierce the heavens (this is 3 vertical staking units already, gonna see how far up I can go)

>>527871041
AH

>>527870891
Add a third floor and put the door/stairs you have on the second floor on the third instead, so there's some negative space in between your two doorway entrances

>>527871041
>>527871159
Every Mk6 item requires some platsteel dogshit thats only obtainable from PvE in the PvP DD zone, this is in addition to hauling the ore back and forth

>>527871208
thought you could only use 1 vertical upgrade

>>527871208
I believe in you anon. Make Anor Londo real

>>527871372
How feasible is it to sneak into the pve areas as a solo player? Will I just get annihilated instantly?

>>527868236
oh yeah? whats my house look like?

>>527871302
I'll experiment with a third floor. I'm struggling with making this look somewhat feasible without compromising accessibility. In reality, you never move around the same way as you do in game, so having less access isn't really an issue.

>>527871473
Farming ore is the easiest, from what I've seen, the scout ornith rockets that almost every braindead ganking group will use deal barely any damage to an ornith. so as long as you're close by you can just fly away and fuck off.

For the PvE areas however, I recommend taking only a scout, then when you get there, you store it so gankers have no idea.

Both PvE areas I went into were testing facilities with arenas inside where the door locks behind you, meaning if you die, and you're not gonna clear it, you lose whatever you brought in. NPC mob groups are usually 2-3 heavy, 5 unshielded range, and 2-4 melee. For scaling, the unshielded range usually requires at least 10+ headshots from an adept tier rifle, with all mentat headshot and rifle damage skills. Have fun, latest change means respawning isn't instant anymore.

>>527871854
Thanks fren, sounds tough but doable, at least I know what to expect/how to somewhat avoid gankers now.

>>527871854
Also items in your inventory don't have any tagging for if they will drop on death or not. Tools will not but money, (some) mats, and then fuel is what I've experienced.

>>527871854
What the actual fuck, that sound so fucking player hostile and means you should only ever enter deep desert with a squad ready and eager to grief, holy fuck that's shit design.

>>527871854
>>527871958
>>527871962
Forgot to mention, when you go into one of these lock when entered rooms, there are at least 5 waves of these groups. Not sure how many because even when I brought friends we got fucked.

Why is almost everyone on the EU servers a fucking russian/ukrainian? Does NA only have huehuehue spics too? Because these are our equivalent of them

>>527872631
not the case on my server, then again most people barely talk here

>>527756195 (OP)
what does this actually do? the numbers say it generates 50% less heat, but is that only at night as the text suggests?

>>527871962
how would you redesign it?

>>527873983
I think there should be at least a range of PvE encounters you can decide to partake in. Currently there are mini camps with barely any loot and the fucking kill room testing facilities. They should keep the kill rooms but make it so there are at least other less rewarding avenues that aren't a complete waste of time.

>>527873983
faction vs faction
spice blows can be predicted
factions make ready and you can take part as harvester or scout or guard or whatevert

>>527873983
I'm someone who doesn't love griefing-based PvP, so I would lock no main progression behind forced PvP. I'd make 50% of ship wrecks PvE, the other half PvP, clearly marked on the map as such so nobody has to do PvP other than the people looking for it. I'd make half of the deep desert PvE, the other PvP, with some PvP exclusive sidegrade gear only available in the PvP zone. These sidegrades would have some slight but clear PvP benefits, meaning sweatlords have the opportunity for their shitty arms race without breaking PvE content. There, I fixed your shit PvP system, and it took me 5 minutes of thinking.

>>527871962
Welcome to why every single forum is mad about how shit the DD is

>>527873983
Remove PvP. Replace it with the AI enemy faction using vehicles and ground troops, more land/bases for them scattered about. Put in a mercenary system that allows random players to join up and bring their gear including carriers/vehicles/sandcrawlers to team up for Spice runs with the loot shared between them. Remove worm-sign detector, you have to manually spot the worms with people acting as scouts.

But I know Funcom refuse to fix anything so instead the best we could possibly hope for is faction vs faction PvP which will stay a gank fest.

>>527873425
Vehicles 'heat' is a different thing. Boosters increase heat as you boost, if you hit the top temp of 150c it turns offline until it cools off. That basically gives you a much longer period that you can stay boosted, its good.

The rest of the text about day/night is just bullshit.

>>527874554
This would be the most logical option.
>>527874720
Even if you don't like pvp you have to admit it's more fun than fighting npcs. We just have to remove all the ways griefers can reset progression. If they know they can't ruin your day, they will move back to ark.

Where are these god damn stupid rays. Ive got 3 from four different mines.

>>527874848
>pvp you have to admit it's more fun than fighting npcs
Nope
>We just have to remove all the ways griefers can reset progression
Yeah, seen this dance for literally 2 decades. Doesn't work. PvP is only good when its balanced, fair match making. It will never ever be good in this game.

>>527874554
this
then add fremen or something as a faction so it isn't just the bigger faction shitting on the smaller one

>>527875228
Can't you think of even one survival game that had healthy pvp?

The only pvp I've experienced so far was accidentally shooting the fuck out of some poor guy who was trying to raid a wreck
I thought it was an NPC

>>527873983
Faction locked, for one fucking thing. And don't make progression locked behind PvP for fucks sake. Make it optional for retards and assholes, but focus on expanding the PvE content.

>>527875354
The only ones that I can think of are when it's consensual.

>>527875354
Rust, but its pure PvP

>inb4 Funcom makes PvE servers, but you have to start fresh on it
Would you do it?

>>527875624
Only if my current server dies

Uh...

How does this compare to Vampire Survivors?

>>527875624
They probably will. Even sea of thieves did eventually.

>>527875964
They're completely different genres?

>>527874720
The worm sign should be like that from the start, frankly. There are plenty of auditory and visual cues already, you don't need the damned squiggly line at the bottom. Removing it would make you pay attention, would force you to listen to your surroundings, introduce some tension back into crossing the desert again. As it is, it gets boring after the first couple times, because you know exactly what to do to avoid it. Also, the worm should have the chance to just explode from under you, instead of a million miles away- with sufficient auditory warning to let you get away if you're quick and prepared enough. That would take some balancing, but I bet it could be done.

Oh, here's an idea, the squiggly line should be a craftable piece of equipment. Then you can choose if you wanna use it, and it makes fucking sense too.

If I could mod the fucking game, its the first thing I'd do. But since I can't mod the game, and they'll never, EVER make the squiggly line optional since its fucking Funcom, I guess thats it.

>>527876078
It goes against survival game design philosophy to make survival actually dangerous or meaningful in any way, shape or form. I'm not even joking.

>>527874848
PvP absolutely is not more fun than fighting NPCs, unless you're a specific type of person. The type of person to enjoy ganking solo noobs. Fair fights are almost never fun in a game like this, since its not a simple shooter, its too tied to gear and triggerable skills. And always, a meta evolves, which means that one side enters with a crushing advantage anyway. The example here was death by orni snu snu, until they decided the best way to handle it was to remove collision damage completely, lmao

>>527875391
Happened to me a couple times, desu

>>527876350
Versus AI isn't the most popular mode in league of legends, you know. It's just too easy. It's the same with most RTS games.

>>527876339
I know you're not, and its fucking infuriating. Nobody even TRIED, for Christs sake, not once that I can remember

>>527876010
>Play in a world with a set number of players defined by a server admin
>Gather resources
>Build a base with production capabilities using those resources
>Avoid sunlight (this is a tongue in cheek point, I know it's not really relevant here)
>Raid others
>Defend against being raided by others
>Optimize the output of the base you've managed to build
I sincerely don't understand how you can act as if this and Vampire Survivors are different genres unless I'm woefully misunderstanding what Dune: Awakening is all about.

>>527876557
Bro you're talking about V rising.

anyone else actually take the time to listen to the radio? harkonnen radio has not-alex jones on it and it's pretty funny.

>>527874720
PvP when contesting resources makes sense, but the way the tech tree is structured and lack of any npc vehicles means that anti-vehicle weapons are purely for hitting other players thus enabling ganking culture.

>>527876557
you mean V rising you fucking retard

>>527876551
There was one brief, wondeful time when I played dayz during a time the zombies were so dangerous a lot of people were afraid to shoot each other in towns. It was awesome a few randoms and I all got stuck in a supermarket and had to fight for our life as the zombies just kept coming.

>>527876627
Oh yeah my bad, sorry bro. How does this game compare to V Rising?

>>527876527
Completely different genres. The games you listed are match-based. You go into a match, you win or you lose, you're back in the lobby, and win or lose you usually always progress in some way. Here, you might need to haul ass back to base on foot if you're not well prepared, and lose hours of grind time. Completely different fucking thing.

The only people who like the PvP as it currently is are dedicated griefers, who are the equivalent of pondscum.

>>527876698
Why did they change it? Let me guess, people moaned about the zombies being too powerful

>>527876720
The base building is way better in dune.
V Rising has infinitely better PVE content

>>527876557
Avoiding sunlight is kinda relevant in this actually, it's similar but the pvp only really happens at the end-game, I dont think you can raid bases at all

>>527876679
>you mean V rising you fucking retard
I'm tired man, but yes. Please compare if you can be bothered dealing with my tired retarded faggotry.

>>527876720
V rising has lots of bosses and unlockable abilities and Dune doesn't. In terms of pvp V rising is more toxic because you get griefed from the start.

>>527876698
I remember those times
when firing the lee enfield at all was basically a death sentence

>>527876827
You can, but even the devs say its shit, you can shoot doors out, Rust style, in the DD

and just like that, the duraluminum tier is complete.

>>527877058
It isn't

>>527877058
>1500V
This is a buggy right?
What is the farming path you take in and out of the rad zone?

>>527876847
>>527876827
>>527876785
Bro, why is nobody mentioning that Dune is basically a vampire game?

You run around avoiding the sun, and you hunt humans to drain them of their blood. My brother in Christ, you are a vampire.

And Zantara has a fucking bat as a pet. Come on.

>>527877130
it's 2500v with the mk 5 buggy storage and the route i traveled was roughly as pictured:

>>527877121
t-take it back... it has to be... i...

>>527876527
>in league of legends
yes, because in lol you gather a party and then play 5vs1
moron

>>527876785
It's a little more limited but I like the kind of castle you can make in V rising. But the perspective ruins a lot of it.
>>527876995
Yeah it's a hell of a shame that survival games always go for the griefer market and not the survival market.

is it worth upgrading to the assault ornithopter without an intent to use it in combat? does it have higher fuel consumption than the light orni?

>>527878035
It has 1000V storage, and you can have both booster and storage on it at the same time

>>527878128
didn't know about the booster and storage combo, that's pretty awesome. i was mostly interested in the storage so that i could use it for quick runs on materials i don't necessarily need a full 2500v of, like iron or corpses for the fremen stills.

How do the fuel and water deposits work on the overland map?

>>527861885
When there's a Harkonen agent in your fresh batch of recruits and you find him by checking which one is completely hairless.

Is 40 generators really all I can have?

>>527879049
probably to force you to use the larger generators and their associated annoying consumable filters instead of slapping down an endless number of small generators.

>coriolis storm deleted the annoying block of scrap metal and the granite boulder making the approach to my front door by vehicle annoying
bless shai-halud

>>527879329
The Coriolis Storm changes node locations? For all zones or just DD?

>>527879684
Hagga basin as well. At least the minerals and scrap.

>>527879684
all zones. they're still region-bound (e.g. iron is still only in vermillion) but it randomizes locations of all of the individual nodes.

what the fuck do sinkcharts do, after you've charted with them

>>527880561
You give them to guildmates or sell them on the auction house. It's made a bit useless with internet maps though.

it's just spinning in circles

I thought this was a cool base

My girl is cute

>>527878535
Dunno about water but as you travel with your thopter you use up fuel, just sit on one of the fuel nodes to regenerate it
Most of the time you won't need to

>>527880995
had to spend all my dura on buidling a new buggy because this shit bugged out and I couldn't remove it's parts

>>527872631
I wouldn't know. No one talks.

>>527884615
next time just bump it with your bike or thopter anon

>>527885012
holy shit that worked, least I hadn't bought the mining laser yet thanks

Are wind turbines worth the hassle? Seems like just making a room full of basic generators would work for anything, resources are infinite

>>527885303
I use a ton of the low tier wind turbines, takes up like 1/3 of the space of a single generator and you can just mass produce the LUBE and then use the base console to distribute

I accidentally got my bike into some quicksand. Is there no way to get it out?

>>527885441
Maikes sense, one last question. Is there a FUCKING way to move my shit from the buggy to the chests without me wanting to kill the devs? Or at leats use the damned ore straight from the buggy?

>>527885832
yup

>>527886141
Before I discovered this, I would take the back of the buggy off so the loot dropped on the floor then spacebar'd F that shit

>>527886141
Fucks sake, thank you. Nothing is explained in this game- and I'd be fine with that, I'm a long time Dwarf Fortress player, but somehow they managed to make it obtuse. While we're at it, what do all the Circuit one and Circuit 2 shit means?

>>527882054
Thanks for telling us you're a tranny

>>527886418
Left is "takes from"
Right is "sends to"

>>527886418
I spent 15 minutes in the tutorial before I checked a streamer and saw you could cut through the door.

>>527886471
Huh. That almost sounds like production chain. But can't be, there are no automated extractors.

Speaking of, where's the best spots to get fremen shit? Microfibre cloth, specifically? Caves in Vermillion only have like 3 each, takes forever to farm. Do other regions have higher drops?

>>527887245
It's basically just for organising.

>>527877058
thats the easy part nigger, now you need 10000000 gazzilion water

>>527887245
Later fremen areas drop like 5-10 at a time.
Also make sure you recycle any fremen shit you pick up as that recycles into fremen resources as well.

>>527887245
If you fill up a machines storage slots with junk or single solari stacks the machine will output to whichever chest is on the circuit. Keeps things organized.

Is there any way to fast travel with the buggy or do I have to drive it across the map when I want to farm crystals?

did the fucking DD reset or did the fucking retards delay it again

G9 in DD, has a crashed ship zone and titanium island

is there a better backup tool for the buggy?

>>527888171
Ok, farm more advanced areas, got it. I can't wait until I get the first orni, almost there

>>527888691
Are anons teaming up for the DD yet?

Ok I got the stillsuit from that place that one anon above told me about. Is there any way to repair that shit? Or is it like, once its gone its gone?

I dislike that a lot. It fucks with my autism. Gear becomes obsolete through tiers anyway.

>not even the chassis of the assault thopter fits in my hangar
fucking kill me

Are there any viable applications for the lasgun yet

>not even the chassis of the assault thopter fits in my hangar
fucking kill me

>>527891469
If you played Conan you would know funcom love fuckhuge bases.

>>527891469
Just build it outside and fly it in

>>527887726
yea you weren't kidding. i was sitting on a stockpile of 300k and thought i'd have enough.. i didn't. now i need to wait 19203819837 years for the fremen stills to process. never thought i'd miss blood bags.

...over a housand of my aluminium ore vanished. I think I know what happened. I cancelled the smelting order to get some water back, and it dumped the ore on the ground. Then I exited the game, before putting the ore back

And now its gone. Fuck Funcom. fuck those incompetent, infuriating niggers. I hate them and I hope they all die.

>>527756195 (OP)
can you not store buggys?

>>527893335
That's not really that much.

>>527891395
Tearing apart people's ornithopters after you shoot them down?

>>527893623
nope, need a garage to store it. only the trike and the scout ornithopter can be stored in the storing device.

>>527893820
that sucks, I thought i'd just found a freebie but I cba to take it all the way back to my base

>streamers starting to dunk on the deep desert
The vultures swarm the carcass.
>"Dune only has a dedicated player base now."

EMOTION CONTROL

>>527895007
there's some good music on there. I really wish they added new segments to the radio station every week or something though, it was great before i heard everything 100 times

>>527894136
it's worth it. buggy is the first massive QOL/productivity upgrade you get in the game. 1750 storage is 10x what your player character can carry

>>527896314
My buggy is rotting in my base, I have a small aluminum outpost not too far but I don't think the buggy will fit, and I don't want to drive it there. Thought about dismantling it for transport, but I really don't want to make my alumium outpost a garage.

I think I am going to move a base to either near pinnacle or anvil trade station. The solo grind is too much for trekking to the rift from the other side of the map.

>>527891469
it just barely fits but it fits lol.

How do I get the millions of spice that I need without getting blown up by gankers?

>>527902883
wake up at 8 am

is there a fast way to get all the stacks of ore or whatever out of the buggy into a box?

>>527896314
I'm just not convinced it'd make the trip, it's made up of busted scrap parts, only like 15% durability
I'd just be worm food

>>527905927
>>527886141

>>527905927
you can choose which inventory you're storing items from in the little drop-down menu above the chest you want to store shit in, choose to deposit from the buggy

>>527902883
>How do I get the millions of spice that I need without getting blown up by gankers?
The game's intended solution: get friends or compatriots with common cause you met in-game together and head out with a mixture of armed escort craft / carriers. Then you'll be less of an easy target, maybe have some aerial combat, or negotiate a truce or other agreement. Woo-hoo: emergent, player driven gameplay.

The reality: the people ganking are motivationally just griefers who want combat and / or to stomp people because that's their fun. You will always have less combat experience than them, they will always outnumber you, and you won't be able to put together an adhoc posse because other people don't want to throw away their resources and time in an unproductive way (unless the odds are overwhelmingly in their favour).

Two things game developers consistently miscalculate are people's intense willingness to avoid communicating / working with others, and the degree of motivation that causing misery provides to a subsection of their population.

>>527906981
You also forgot in a pve zone where nobody can fight each other people still won't talk to each other so will never group. It's like they're spoonfeeding people for you to play with but nobody bites.

>>527906762
>>527886141
>>527906779
awesome, thanks guys

>You can no longer take damage from vehicle collisions
This had something to do with suicide tactics, didn't it?

>mfw enjoying the game slowly each days after my shift with friends while dumb solo neet complain that they are cuckblocked from DD t6 under a week's release

You only got yourself to blame

>>527906981
More game developers should study Richard Bartle's analysis of MUD userbases, it really hasn't changed in over 30 years.

>>527890381
I have no idea, I'm still using mine and I put on shitty starter gear if I'm doing any spice or flour harvesting so the worm doesn't take my uniques.

just finished 5th class keystones
i guess i will only ever have one character because the idea of doing that again makes suicidal the real meta

>>527909430
same. we laugh at every solo player and assume he has no friends and no income. however when we see a solo player with a cube base we know hes successful and respect him

>>527909231
Yes, they are trying to clamp down on the DD before it craters the player count. The goal of the DD was clearly not to be a griefer heaven. I don't think it was even intended for you to see players very often.

>>527756195 (OP)
What faction is the Spice Rats?

>>527909231
No, it had to do with griefers using their thopters to goomba stomp people on foot to death

>>527911478
Based on a square

>>527756195 (OP)
Only a few hours in and the core gameplay loop already feels like Once Human. Except the gunplay and melee combat just doesn't feel as good. Only thing making me stay right now is the world. Somebody please tell me there's boss encounters or something tougher then these stupid raiders

>>527912642
>please tell me there's boss encounters or something tougher then these stupid raiders
The most dangerous game, your fellow man.

>>527911528
>include PvP zones on the proclaimed PvE map
>place resources that are mandatory for progression in these zones
>add dedicated PvP map
>make it the only place to get endgame resources
>claim the game es entirely 'optional PvP'
>players ape this and proclaim the game to be 95% PvE
This sentiment will hold until the majority reaches the point where they will regularly have to loot shipwrecks and get griefed by PvP retards and/or the somewhat dedicated majority reaches T5 and realizes to progress they would have to deeply engage with the social systems and PvP. There is a great foundation in this game when it comes to vibes and immersion and making the environment hostile but fair, allowing you to slowly but steadily master the desert, facing increasingly volatile dangers. Instead, they decided to go full 'make your own fun in PvP' endgame, while claiming the game was PvP optional.

>>527912642
>Somebody please tell me there's boss encounters or something tougher then these stupid raiders

>>527912571
We're atreides

Thopters should fear people on the ground with rocket launchers, not the other way around. Thopters should function like halo vehicles where a solo pilot can do a little damage but gunners riding alongside increase the effectiveness of the vehicle.

>>527909430
I've never seen a game punish hard-core players this much before.

Where the hell do I get ekyrite crystals or w/e they're called?
I looted like 500 of them from bandit camps but i need thousands

>>527914183
Big red glowing crystals deep in the trench area.

>>527914183
choam facilities down in hag rift

Let's make 5 or 6 really interesting environmental zones that people rush through or virtually skip and where no pvp takes place to vary up combat and make differing builds and tactics viable.

>>527913895
I read that there are meant to be tanks too that just didn't make it in at release. I suppose they'd be required for base raiding in the DD. What we got now doesn't really make sense, it's just everybody in scout vehicles instead of a real fighting force. Ground combat doesn't even factor into it.

>>527914779
And missile launcher turrets in bases as well at some point in development.

>>527914960
Heavily implies that base raiding either got scrapped or delayed.

>>527915493
You can raid bases

>>527912769
You don't need t6 to clear the pve contents of this game. All the muh social and muh pvp bad is just retards coping. They'll play 200 hours in 2 weeks and cry like faggots about spending 5-20 minutes in a pvp empty wreck which are not even camped. Just dont go to DD if youre such virtual pussies. Holy fuck

>>527915725
you need 20 skill points to beat the entire game, the 3 for grenade and 3 for mentat turret

you can actually beat the game naked

>>527916642
Then people here need to stop complaining about mechanics they clearly don't want to engage into to begin with. Game is fun

>>527915579
I don't think you're meant to be able to?

>>527917081
What's fun about patrolling around shooting people that can't even fight back?

>>527917081
i'm surprised people are being whiny faggots already
at least let griefing in those shitty shipwrecks happen before complaining (nobody is going to sit in those fucking things for an hour to get someone's 3 grass and iron pistol)

So does humanity go extinct in this timeline since humanity will never go down the golden path?

>>527917490
Literally social and skill issues. Just don't buy an online only game with a PvPvE selling point next time. Fucking retard I swear

>>527917490
>fun about patrolling around shooting people that can't even fight back
subhuman BR's, spics, russians, niggers, gypsies, all this garbage of humanity that would get knocked the fuck out in a fair 1v1 have to resort to this

>>527917975
Yes, your social and skill issues are why you think that's fun.

>>527917929
Presumably, unless someone like Leto II can exist later on, bookfriend.

>>527918054
Every pvp clip I've seen of this game, even the very cool best possible scenario ones, include griefers complaining their victims actually fought back. I'm talking about 5 on 1 combat where the 5 are calling the 1 a pussy for not just sitting still and dying.

>>527918398
yeah, subhumans

>>527917929
Ariste has to have babies with a Fremen quick

The deep desert is going to get worse over time as more guilds have endlessly stockpiled resources and can field mk7,8,9,10 vehicles and equipment.

>>527918161
What you said don't make any sens nor is you playing and posting about a game you "don't have fun with".

R
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>>527919095
What brown country do you hail from, traveler?

>>527909430
This thread is full of stream watching chuds trying to tear down the game. Reality check: only 10% of players have reached the DD so far. Only 20% have completed the first part of the story, only 20% have constructed an Ornithopter, and just 3.7% have finished the Swordsmaster training.

>>527919095
ok jeet

>>527919237
There's no reason to complete the story or training if you just want to gank people in the desert.

>>527919157
The one that is smart enough to know what I paid for and don't have to resort to kindergarden ad hominem if I lack talking points.

So Zimbabwe

so to those who played conan - how quick is this company to push out content updates?

>they're actually trying to fix the deep desert
Maybe there’s hope for this game after all

how often do you actually find spice in DD?

>>527920372
We won't know until they do it with Dune. Conan was not originally intended to be live service, the game simply wasn't built for it in the first place. It was shoehorned in later on once it picked up popularity and the disastrous release ironed out. Dune on the other hand is intended to be a live service game from the get go.

The funcom community guy implied (vaguely) that we will be getting the first update very soon, possibly before the end of July if all goes well. The first truly expansive dlc drop isn't expected for another year however, with the polar ice cap dlc. What they do between now and then is anyones guess.

Someone left this base unclaimed. I got 100k solari! it's also close to pinnacle station so I nearly want to claim it.

>>527919449
it's because every sietch (subserver) goes to a centralized DD map shared by the entire server, so even if you cry about low pop dead game it funnels everyone into the huge desert. everyone's there for materials, i farm in peace most of the time, and can outrun full squads in my endgame thopter. i've also been good at dogfighting playing starfox/starfox 64 and planetside reaper pilot for years. people don't even set up strafing runs they just fire off 300 rockets.

>>527922507
>Planetside
My man.

>>527920976
It would not be a crazy guess to say the pve endgame wasn't made in time for release, possibly even most of the pvp.

flying round the deep desert hurts my eyes

>>527919237
I have yet to construct an ornithopter, fucking water is bottlenecking me

why are there any light-skinned fremen?

>>527919237
Im still on steel

>upgrading bike to higher mk is utterly pointless
is this going to be a theme throughout the game?

>>527925809
deathstill.

>>527926163
it goes faster

>>527926284
im playing with my friends who can only put in 3 hours tops a week into the game, and we promised to at least do the story together, so im stuck at trial three as well

I hope this doesn't turn into a trainwreck.

>>527926430
then dew harvesting and big water tanks is your only real option
>>527926163
the bike hits a plateau at mk 2 but all the other stuff has valid or straight up necessary upgrades

>>527926430
Trials 3-7 can easily be knocked out in about an hour of biking around the map. Trial 8 is a weird solo trial that probably takes about a half hour and only one person on the entire server can do it at a time.

don't think I can play this game solo now that i'm at deep desert and I have no guild

can you really call it a dune game if it doesn't have pregnancy mechanics?

>>527929180
Join with anons. I'm at the point with the buggy and already losing interest solo. The rift is a rather cool zone but it's just so many repeat trips.

the spice harvester in this game is boring. why do I have to drive this tiny dinky piece of shit? Give me a REAL spice harvester, Funycom

>>527930614
I am extremely surprised they didn't. This is what I think of when I think endgame harvesting.

>>527919237
I don't watch any streams, I like the atmosphere a lot, but I hate how endgame is PvP. I'm currently on T5, and I've visited the deep desert once, only to realize that it is entirely PvP content, including the 'PvE' tiles. It took me around 50 hours to build my Ornithopter, and that's with me being highly inefficient and taking my time, I'm currently unlocking all advanced skills.

It was nice of the devs to include a toxic player banishment zone.

BG/Swordmaster or Mentat/Trooper for raping niggas in shipwreck pvp?

>>527930614
DD should have these as mobile bases with periodic sandworm activity so someone actually has to watch for wormsign and then get these things flown out before the sandworms chomp them.

>>527930885
Their explanation is that because the big things belong to great houses. And you're not even a shed.

>>527935232
But we do work for the great houses.

>>527929668
NTA I'd love to join but I'm on the wrong server

>>527935319
I'm not gonna give my Ferrari to my gardener.

>>527934556
You need to go melee if you want to have a chance.

>>527935232
One thing this game does right is that it places you as barely a blip on the big players' radar. They use you for their purposes, sometimes yours and their coincide, most of the time not.

>>527935558
No, but you'd hire him to guard your harvester while it works, right? Along with some actual house troops?

>>527936039
Fuck no, my gardener is paid to do garden work.

What's a good spot for a refinery base in Sheol?

How tf do I gt the third level of planetology training? I finished the niggas quest, all it says is "there's gonna be more contracts" nigga hwere?

>>527940440
have to find him out in the wild. He's in one of the imperial testing stations. Forget which one.

>>527941263
MAn there's a lot of stations out there. That said, he's probably in one of the starter ones, no?

>>527941690
At the end of the quest line, he's back where you found him at the very start.

>>527935232
>>527935319
We do work for the Great Houses, but also keep in mind that there is a Spice Mining Guild and the Imperium is an incredibly regulated place. Typically the Harvesters are crewed by Dunemen that are effectively serfs working off generational debt that will never be paid off.

We need better ranged options I don’t give a fuck if Dune is "le epic melee!!" faggotry. Devs need to learn that people want to shoot shit.

Does anyone know the actual difference between Mk1 and Mk3/4 bikes. Its tempting to make one because im at aluminum and the distance is semi-far but my bike is already doing 60-70km/h, if its just going to go up to 80 it'll be a waste of time and resources, whereas if its +100 then it would very much be worth it.

>>527944318
The fact that ranged is viable at all is a sin.

may thy butthole chip and shatter

niggawire beats the sprint talent and the grav booster and has a shorter cooldown and has a trooper only cd reduction and it stuns targets, they didn't balance this shit at all

>>527945082
I've been mostly ranged my entire playthrough and agree. It just feels wrong. Respeccing to full melee tonight.

>>527947318
I did nothing but melee and have only just started using ranged at aluminum and its so much easier its stupid. Take minigun enemies for example, its usually 3 shielded pen stabs to kill them, inbetween that you have to dodge his AoE stun at least once and also his RNG melee attacks that knock you out of everything. Or you could use a gun and stand there and while he shoots your shield, you headshot him and he dies instantly.

The only exception is melee enemies where it becomes easier to just stab them once in-between their attacks and its where the game is at its most fun, especially if there is a pack of them. But there is usually only 1 or 2 around.

Not going to stop using melee and will probably ditch the gun, it makes it too simple.

>>527945006
Just make a buggy for the harvest and inventory bonus?

>remove the protag
>turn him into a cute girl
>make (You) the protag instead
these guys are geniuses

>>527945006
putting a mk5 engine in my bike made it go from 70 to 100, like going from a pushbike to a jet engine

>>527949098
One thing that doesn't quite jive with this narrative: The Harkonnen wrangling the Sardaukar into their attack on the Atreides was illegal, but the attack was apparently carried out regardless. In fairness it's not like there's anyone with the clout or authority to punish the Emperor for doing something illegal, but it's still kinda fucky.

>>527947952
I have one, but you have to hand harvest alum before you can build the laser for it

>>527950231
Seems like it would be worth it then because I doubt ill ever stop keeping a bike on me

>>527950306
The attack never happened in this narrative.

>>527950463
mine is more of a museum piece, it's been over a week since I've used it. shame since it's the most fun vehicle to use

>>527950709
Are you sure? The way I interpreted the opening cutscene, the attack happened but was unsuccessful.

>>527951074
It's stopped by Jessica using her truthsayer abilities on Yueh before it can happen.

>>527951451
Huh, I guess that makes sense. Opening cutscene described them as having "forewarning" so they "survived" so I guess I just interpreted that wrong.

>me hearing thopter propellers outside of my hidden rift base for the first time in 100 hours

>>527951904
You'll fucking shit yourself if that ever happens in the deep desert

>>527951034
Get all the special parts for it and make it the optimal bike

>>527938909
you can't make a base in sheol because the rads will kill you. set up on the peninsula of islands that run north to south from the power generator/maas kharet region

>>527951034
i deconstructed my trike once i got the scout thopter. no point when you can only store one in the device and the thopter goes faster and can move vertically. the buggy still 100% earns its place with the mining laser and massive storage, but the trike fell off pretty hard. it should move faster, like baseline mk1 speed of 85 up through ~110-120 at mk6 so it can have the niche of conceivably going faster than a thopter on average on flat ground

>Got the Hollower Stillsuit from the first zone
>It has 100 armor and either a feature/bug is it never loses durability
>At Aluminum and its still good
Feels like this wasn't planned out well

>>527951970
it's great how easy it is to hide from other players in this. I've had full groups run right past me while i'm just couched behind a crate shitting myself

>>527951074
they attacked fremen, not atreides

>>527954324
The majority of my time progressing through the tech tiers was in the unique armored stillsuits like that. They are great.

I would like to thank my good friend Bindu for making harvesting that 700 spice so easy

>build deck with no walls, just a roof supported by corner pillars
>watersealed

where is the smuggler anyway?

>>527956653
now do that 100 more times

>>527953796
not all of sheol is irradiated silly

There are spice refineries in Sentinel City and Lab 60 where you can loot spice in Hagga Basin. Does anybody know any other spots?

>>527955075
No nameplates is kino

>get a contract from the Anvil to kill some whore in a testing facility
>ok ill do this real quick then go to bed
>the facility is fucking huge
>every time I think I'm at the end it keeps going
>took me like 30 minutes
>genuinely impressed
is this how it's gonna be from now on? I expected all these dungeons to be small copy paste jobs

>>527957407
>Be watersealed
>Still lose water
Can't do one thing right

>>527959861
I found some in one of the bases at the Rift, I think it was the Spire. Didn't have much spice in it but it triggered a quest for Smugglers. It was a huge facility though and took a long time to go down it level by level, almost missed the chest entirely.

>>527958064
Probably just going to stop playing once I get Aluminum finished desu. There is no good end game.

>At T5 gear
>Still in a sub-fief running off nothing but generators, one deathstill and a 2 floor base
Feels like 90% of the 'upgraded' stuff is just a sunk cost for nothing.

>>527959861
if I want spice in Hagga I hit up Shoel for small spice fields. not sure if people just ignore that area or they spawn more often, there's usually only 1 in the rad zone but you can get some actual spice there instead of chicken scraps

>>527961163
Generators feel like they should be the endgame energy output with how easy they are to maintain

>>527961327
On my server people are on spice fields in hagga within seconds and DD is full of orni groups with rockets. So looking for guaranteed places to loot it like refineries at the previously mentioned places

For just $800 you can buy 10 million solari, anon.