Welcome to the Sonic General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #8358 - Chunkmy Edition
==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Summer Game Fest Trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_xAuG3JfIg
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Price Breakdown:https://x.com/sonicstadium/status/1931114573177995627
>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.https://pad.riseup.net/p/qQuY_QfXPQct68PyFm-e
>New Sonic Manga announced on CoroCoro by the SXSG manga artist, Sonic and the Blade of Courage:https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/1922691331966607716?s=46
>Chao Tales Full Serieshttps://youtu.be/EENSzPFeVFQ
>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed againhttps://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/
==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 18 June 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #79 - 25 June 2025
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 16 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - August 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
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>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uk5U8jY_RPZF9m_gmPfSOfCngAOSAxy393dsQVPoOyQ/edit#gid=0
>Perfect System Collection:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NA28SqNWzuyaCmeePsdOabcemjzg3t1M/view
>Sonic comic scans:https://grabber.zone
>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ OC info:https://sthgoc.tumblr.com/archive/
>/sthg/ cytube:https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg
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>>527817289 (OP)EMI STOLED MY SANDYWITCH AND I'M DYING OF HUNGER NOW UUUUUUUUUUU
I think that's mostly the clothes folding than her being chunky but I like fatmy so is okay
There is no such thing as early baking on /sthg/ because jannies don't want to moderate this place. You can bake whenever you like here like this thread that was baked 50 posts into the current one and get away with it if you really want an OP.
I lied about spamming Tempest pics. I don't have any saved. I just wanted to be part of the conversation.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/s/neLLyHKu9X
Reddit thinks it’s real LMAO
>>527819340Shame, she's cute
Boring as a character and loved by a spamming idiot, but she's cute in fanart
>>527819845Do you have any pics?
>>527817289 (OP)How do you get red rings in Sonic Blitz? I don't see the option to buy them since i assume they are the premium currency
/sthg/ stop getting reddit's hopes up with your memes
https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHedgehog/s/4fl8BiT4RW
This meme is your fault
>>527825787Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
>3 active threadsHow does /sthg/ do it?
>>527838436Why?
>>527838469Sonic did not say that.
He could've. But he didn't.
Here is Hatsune Miku!
What do you think of her?
>>527838713Vocaloid as a brand stopped being popular back in 2017. Miku is basically a hasbeen now.
>>527838907Statistically, somebody has to.
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>>527838907you and me both anon
>>527838469So does this mean Ian ISN'T the one responsible for the constant self-referencing?
>>527838425shut the fuck up
I guess people comparing speed from the games the Super Sonic Speed is on par with the max speed cap in TSR while the slowest speed is slower than the slowest speed in TSR.
Looks like rather than pushing the speed up they just added a slower tier, likely for the future arcade port.
>>527838436>Blazefag was the one making the silver seethe threadsEvery time with the vaulted blaze cat.
>>527839367Knuckles is fucking goated
>>527838469Ian is a fucking baboon.
>>527838469That's not a real translation.
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>>527838907Keep the jerboa love goin'
>>527839367not going to lie, I like Boom Knuckles design, him being a bit bigger and buffer makes sense
>>527838874Miku is an internet and weeb culture icon, anon. Thousands of songs are made per year with her voice.
Miku is so popular she stripped "Vocaloid" of the name, even. She's not even a vocaloid anymore, but she still carries the title.
Miku will continue to make waves in the news anytime she's brought into a game. Or an anime. Or a racing circuit. Or an art collab with Nintendo.
Miku is eternal.
>>527839679Yeah I miss being young too, but that time is long over.
>>527839619I used to dislike Boom Knuckles but he grew onto me to the point that I love him in his own right. Man, I just love Knuckles in general. His design is pretty clean too.
Sonally is so kino bros...
>>527839619Knuckles being a bit bigger makes sense, but I think Boom takes it too far.
>>527839774Then be forgotten. Miku is forever.
Will Miku get us to 10 million sales?
>>527839619it suits boom knuckles but i sure was hell wouldn't like that body type for regular knuckles
>>527839791I'll bet you still think the Spice Girls were cool too.
Mike Racing featuring Sonic & Chuckles
>>527839774Look everybody! This guy thinks you have to leave the things you love behind when you get older! Point at him and laugh!
Yo yo yo, Knucklebros if you knockin', keep on knockin'! Don't let anybody put you down man!
>>527839786>His design is pretty clean too.he's a red man wearing red shoes, a design like that is easy to fuck up and come out boring (trip) but they somehow made it work
https://x.com/versadile/status/1935096572695523378?s=46
Nice lyrics Sonic babs
>>527839827>>527839902Yeah, I think it's a bit too much, maybe somewhere between. Movie Knuckles actually does a good job of making Knuckles look bigger and stronger than the others without making it exaggerated.
>>527838874Miku is beyond Vocaloid at this point, she's still relevant to this day.
Silver the Hedgehog is a twink
>>527838874>>527839774she's actually getting more exposure now than she did in the 2010s, i think the kids who grew up listening to miku are coming to the internet proper now
>>527840079>come out boring (trip)C'mon anon, Trip is kino.
>>527840645Bald Honey looks like Tiara.
>>527840410i have mixed feelings on regular trip, i prefer undercover trip with the steampunk helmet and shoes
>>527838775I love Shadally
https://x.com/Danny8bit/status/1935093961745699086
IDWbabs...
>>527840857>mixed feelings on regular tripWhy though?
>>527840941Damn that nigga needs to shut up
I just don't think Shadow would date Sally, is all
>>527841039Of course not, because she would rape him.
If you don't like Duofag and Shadally rape, you don't like Sonic.
>>527840950copypasted from the posts i made the other day
>for all intents and purposes her design only has 1 color and that makes her boring to look at>the idea of making the yellow parts a different shiny material for contrast is good but it ultimately doesn't work as intendedbasically i think she should have another color to spice up her design, she's kind of a big blob of orange
>>527840410agreed, I like trip
>>527840857I'm kinda the opposite. Her armored look (especially her helmet) looks too clunky and off putting while here regular unarmored self is cute and endearing even if he doesn't look like the species she's supposed to be.
>>527841368>I like tripWhy? She's not much of a character.
>>527841368>even if he doesn't look like the species she's supposed to beNot many Sonic characters do honestly
I am only now realizing that a windfag monthly manga inherently means IDW fans and writers getting spammed with mockery and comparisons.
It will definitely eventually affect IDW.
>>527841368>Her armored look (especially her helmet) looks too clunky and off puttingthat's the appeal for me, it sets her apart
i do agree on regular trip being cute though
>>527841480Imagine if the manga had Silver and depicted him character.
>>527838587I miss you Soneggfag, post new sonegg ai slop
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It starts with one, one thread, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how fast you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme to explain in due time
All I know, time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by to post 750 as the pendulum swings
Watch it count up to the end of the thread, the clock ticks life away
It's so unreal, didn't look out below
Watch your bake go right out the window
Tryna hold on, d-didn't even know
I wasted it all just to watch you go
I kept everything until bump limit and even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when
I tried so fast, and baked so far
But in the end, it got pruned in the matter
I had to spam to lose it all
But in the end, it got pruned in the matter
Two threads, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how fast you try
Keep that in mind, I designed this rhyme
To remind myself how I tried so fast
In spite of the way you were mockin' me
Actin' like /sthg/ was part of your property
Rememberin' all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised it got so far
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then, but it all comes back to me in the end
You posted everything before bump limit and even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when
I tried so fast, and baked so far
But in the end, it got pruned in the matter
I had to spam to lose it all
But in the end, it got pruned in the matter
I've put my trust in me
Posted as fast as I can go
For all this, there's only one thing you should know
I've put my trust in me
Posted as fast as I can go
For all this, there's only one thing you should know
I tried so fast, and baked so far
But in the end, it got pruned in the matter
I had to spam to lose it all
But in the end, it got pruned in the matter
>>527838775He loves her at any size <3
Sonic in this 1 manga chapter was more fun to follow than the Sonic from all the games since Black Knight and all of IDW.
HOLY SHIT thank you random drawfag, I really love this piece, thank you for fulfilling my Elias request, it means so much to me as an Eliasfag, we haven't had our food since FWA left. Keep drawing and improving bro
IDWfags and Primefags will not recover.
Shot AOSTH fags
Burn SATAM fags
Skin Archie fags
Throw acid at Fleetway fags
Stomp Underground fags heads
Drown Boom fags
Eviscerate Prime fags
Cut in half vertically (starting at the crotch) IDW fags
Anally impale Movie fags and let they rot
>>527839893Miku will overshadow Sonic in Crossworlds and with Cyber Space, might even replace him as the main character of this franchise.
>>527842123MovieCHADS and NickKINGS will own us all if Crossworlds is a hit. I would start kneeling.
Guys, I don't know if anyone has pointed this out before but this is amazing. This manga is the first comic that Sonic has appeared in since the original Sonic manga in 1992!
You can check yourself. Sonic doesn't appear in Archie or IDW or fleetway.
>>527842123>Shot AOSTH fags>Throw acid at Fleetway fags>Drown Boom fagsWhat's wrong with AOSTH, Fleetway and Boom fans? They are pretty chill here.
>>527842234Silver gets to be rejected by this?
>>527842404They don't like Sonic
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You can stop spamming ragebait krack.
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>>527817289 (OP)>Fatmy is thinking about what to have for her mid-second breakfast snack>She decides to have both
>>527842473The former wind...
>>527842123>Shot AOSTH fags
>>527842234silver needs to tell me the exact taste of gold's pussy
>>527817289 (OP)>Here we discuss all things Sonic!Kys westnigger
>>527841442>Why? She's not much of a character.I agree that she's not a super deep character but from the bits and pieces we do see of her throughout superstars and the supplementary material she has the appeal of a very sweet and tender person that's thrust into a situation she isn't prepared to handle and has to learn to fight for herself. I do wish she was developed more but you could say the same for a lot of sonic characters. I can see why a lot of anons don't like her and that's totally fine, but I still do regardless. I also think the dynamic with Fang could have been handled differently, part of me kinda wishes she became a member of team hooligans as a voice of morality that could play off Fang, Bean, and Bark' shenanigans. That would have been more interesting than just making her another temporary ally to team sonic only to be thrown by the wayside after the game.
Here is your workshop assistant!
Questions?
>>527842471>Literally anything made in the west is is not SonicWhatever. Weeabooism is cancer.
>>527842619Silver doesn't get to taste it. He just gets to watch confident and capable women like Blaze and Rouge taste it.
>>527842704Can I get a different one?
>>527842484Kys Duonigger west bootlicker
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No, seriously, everybody constantly going on about the new Sonic manga being "the actual Sonic is finally back", what is this all about?
>>527842781>Japan releases
>>527842704When's the expiration date?
okay krack we get it west bad japan good!
>>527842731You don't belong here
>>527842749>BlazeCapable, but not confident. Gold could probably relate to her insecurities if she ever happened to let them show.
>RougeGold would definitely have the hots for Rouge though.
>>527842781I'm assuming whatever Sonic was characterized as in the manga is something more favorable than IDW's iteration of Sonic
>>527842781Eat shit if you thought anything in IDW reflected the characters.
Actually eat shit. You're a terrible person. Sonic isn't supposed to be some member of some shitty resistance front. He's Sonic the fucking Hedgehog.
>>527841978you're welcome! it was fun, I've wanted to draw Elias for a while now
KRACK WON
KRACK WON
KRACK WON
>>527842986I think IDW is dogshit, but you're still not answering the question.
Yes I watched AoStH.
Yes I watched SaTAM.
Yes I watched Sonic Underground.
Do I love Sonic? YES.
>>527843126You don't get Sonic
>>527842404NTA, but even though they're neat, each of them miss the "vibe" that Sonic as a franchise is supposed to have. They aim to be something different, and they each have their moments, but if I had to trade them for something more "Sonic", I would.
I think someone's just taking the piss and trying to start shit.
I love the manga because it's making the non game fans look ilke absolute quivering retards
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>>527842897I thought Krack was a JPfag?
SOJ hate you western niggers.
You ruined their vision.
You ruined SEGA.
>>527842704What's her warranty looking like? I'd uh, hate to void it.
>>527843279They're making shit up.
>>527843171Stop being vague and answer the question.
>>527843379They don't know, they're just trying to look cool.
>>527842731Sonic is a weeb franchise.
>>527843259That's what I said
>>527843176>"vibe" that Sonic as a franchise is supposed to haveCan you clarify more?
>My slop is better than your slop
>>527842234>>527842749I'm so glad we're bringing back Evan's past mistake in this franchise, imagine creating an OC just to tell people that Silver is unironically to lame to get pussy, lmaoo. You can't never get enough of Evan doing numbers on Silver's character.
Okay guys hear me out....
IDW has had
>A Zombie apocalypse
>A girl traumatized by robots
>A city falling from the sky
>A race that ended with airships smashing into the earth
>An attack from a giant lizard
>Sonic battling a dark clone of himself designed to hate everything about him
And still it was less interesting and less fulfilling than a simple story about Sonic stopping a runaway speed train.
Characterization matters. Plot is just a vehicle for that.
>>527842781Sonic acts more carefree and in control of his actions. He doesn't spend that much time talking and gets to the point when he does.
If i see a kid calling him Robotnik i beat him to death.
>>527843572I thought Gold was introduced to be Silver's love interest but Sega said no so she got retooled into a lesbian
>>527843681>And still it was less interesting and less fulfilling than a simple story about Christ Thorndyke stopping a runaway speed train.ftfy
>>527842990Thanks man, you got a name here?
sorry but can I ask you for Lewd Elias x Anon request? In the future, if you were to do request again
>>527843681Let's not get ahead of ourselves, the manga only had one chapter and we don't know what else it'll have in store for Sonic and Yuta. It could even shoot itself on its feet at any moment.
>>527843680Nice, picrel is also good.
>>527843572Gold pretty much symbolizes everything terrible about the west's take on Silver. It's been interesting to learn about her character.
We can see just how badly Evan understood Silver.
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>>527843506You're not going to get stuff like the Adventure or Storybook games from Boom or AoStH, and although Fleetway has some of that edge to it that Boom or AoStH lack, it also misses the mark with how it handles Sonic specifically, and if you put Fleetwaynic in the games things would be wildly different.
That being said, I'd love to see an OC that acts like Fleetway Sonic, since I feel like he'd make for a neat story.
>>527843823>Gold pretty much symbolizes everything terrible about the west's take on Silver.Didn't read late Archie, why?
Fleetway, Archie, IDW niggers on suicide watch.
>>527843819>The giant fucking SMG
>>527843915Evan explained it herself. Gold is attracted to confident and capable people. Because of this, she isn't attracted to Silver, because he is insecure and incompetent [in the west]
Watching subbed Sonic X has been a real eye opener for me.
Krack makes these threads unusable with her spam.
>>527843759>Christ ThorndykeKek
>>527843727Gold is Evan's self insert so she was always meant to be a carpet muncher
>>527843680>Disgusting augmented creatures. Get out of my sight!
>>527843819Okay you fucking won this thread
>>527844015I posted 2 times ITT
>sonics sits on your lap
>he notices you get hard for him
How would JPNic and IDWnic response to this wacky situation?
>>527844015KYS WESTNIGGER
ADMIT YOUR VERSION OF SONIC IS INFERIOR ALREADY
>>527843814People keep comparing the manga to X, but it reminds me more of Unleashed. The manga is probably a reboot just like Unleashed with only a few blobians in the world. Unleashed only had Sonic, Tails, Amy and Chip. Not even Knuckles and Shadow appeared in it.
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>>527844004Yeah, I'm sure Evan's aversion to heterosexuality is the reason Gold isn't attracted to Silver.
>>527844112JPnic would make a dumb joke in broken engrish
IDWnic would go on a tumblr tirade about consent
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Sonic Gens is 1440p 60fps docked and 1080p 60fps portable
Shadow Gens is 1080p 30fps docked and portable or 720p 60fps docked and portable. Both modes are using FSR2 since no in house Sega engine supports DLSS.
This port is similar to Forcers where there’s headroom not being taken advantage of and it was clear they focused on getting it out fast than doing it right.
Recent threads have been pure torture.
SOJ hates you and wants you dead westfags.
>>527844240Ok but I don't play videogames
>>527843823Good. We gotta let her know that all of Silver slander of the 2020s are mostly because of her doing, every single Silver slander is on her
>>527844247god is refining your character
>>527844112JPnic: *Stares at your cock and gives out a low whistle* Happy to see me?
IDWnic: Oh...! I mean, I'm flattered, but uh...I'm not...y'know, I'm not ready for that sorta thing. *Sweatdrops*
>>527844207>"Woah! I'd ask you to take me to dinner first, but I'm not really one for dates! See ya!"
>>527844015Lettuce makes these threads unusable with his inability to understand anything about Sonic, his love for SHITTIDW and his defense of IDW Silver. :)
>>527844256Cope Seethe Mald Zone.
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>>527843768I go by Niko
I'm currently only drawing mostly SFW stuff, I'm slowly easing into lewder stuff but it's not a field I'm confident in yet
Canon Silver is confident and capable, but his flaw is that he's actually TOO confident, often being so determined that it leads to tunnel-vision. It would unironically end up being similar to how Amy adores Sonic, but still gets irritated at him at times, where Gold adores Silver, but still finds that he can be a bit fucking much.
Old /sthg/ didn't understand Sonic
New /sthg/ understands Sonic.
>>527844507Well its nice to meet you Niko
Are there any Sonic Frontiers fans ITT? I want to ask them something
>>527844585>Evan created a tenrec OC that shows just how horribly she understands Silver>Ian created a tenrec OC that shows just how horribly he understands Sonic
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>>527844743I thought Ian's Surge was the good one while Evan was the one who fucked up her direction?
>Understanding Sonic is as easy as understanding the wind
Why hasn't Robotnik won yet? He should understand by now.
>>527844681Honestly yes. Nearly all of the old namefags would be defending Ian like their lives depended on it. They would speak with authority while citing examples from Archie and IDW. The new sthg is properly strict about japan, but we still have some retarded leftovers here who shit up the threads.
COPE & CELEBRATE!
It's a beautiful world out there!
>>527844507Thank for the free art Niko
>spoilerHaha yeah I love sfw stuff too
/fast/ doesn't understand Sonic
>>527844875Understanding the wind is a meta idea. We understand that Sonic is this impossibly great figure who has flaws, but not flaws that he is meant to grow from.
Eggman cannot "learn" this because it means accepting that on some level Sonic's sheer competence matches or outclasses his mental might.
>>527844743Who's going to make a tenrec OC that shows just how horribly they understand Shadow?
>>527844875He's a comic fan.
>>527844796What do you think are Frontiers' strong points?
Why don't westfags kill themselves already?
This is a japanese website.
Robotnik is a westfag. Sonic is a jp purist
>>527844846Ian's Surge is a better character, but fails because she's built around Ian's shitty OOC version of Sonic.
Evan's Surge is a worse character because she's another redundant antagonist to ally that tosses everything about her into the garbage.
I gave Evan the benefit of the doubt at first because I thought she was restructuring Surge to fit with a more in-character Sonic, but then she just had Sonic still do that whole thing where he saves the evil villains for no reason.
They're both bad, Evans is worse, it's a shitshow.
>>527845063Nobody because Segas mandates on Shadow are almost good enough to stop him from gaining new character traits
>>527817289 (OP)Why did the OP get deleted?
>>527844693likewise ^^
>>527845028I'll try to do some requests again next week, have a lot of time off coming up
>>527844364JPnic is down to fuck with strangers?? Hells yeah you understand Sonic
>>527844392Nooo please come back here Sonic I love you man..
I'm going to post Sage.
Better not interfere...OR ELSE!
>>527845426Sage in all fields
>>527845308Good question.
>>527842781>>527843150nta but Sonic is written with his "wind" characterization like Sonic X and Sonic Channel while also being more entertaining and action oriented than the American comic has been.
>>527842704How do you fuck?
>>527845407I'd fuck JPnic
>Chris this Chris that
Yuta is literally just Wade. Wade is closer in every conceivable way
Are you still playing Superstars and Shadow Generations?
>>527845161I liked the open world and combat.
>>527845689>Wade but good
>>527842704Will fire kill you?
>>527844875Eggman doesn't fight from the heart for reasons larger than himself, he fights to slake his ego and prove himself to all the idiots in the world that fail to accept his genius.
Metal Sonic is a perfect example of Eggman's view on his rivalry with Sonic. Eggman didn't choose to counter Sonic by making something to nullify his speed, he chose to build something to challenge Sonic's strongest ability in order to prove that he could beat him at his own game. The result is a heartless machine with no purpose or dream other than to prove itself, without any real soul inside its core.
If Eggman threw away his pride and just started living a humble life just for the fun of it, he'd actually be more of a match for Sonic than he is now. But that would mean he'd have to live more like Sonic, and Eggman would NEVER accept that.
>>527845721Non wind garbage
>>527845721Superstars, Yes. Never played Shadow Gens, I refuse to pay for Ian's butchered version of Sonic Generations.
>>527845970>I refuse to pay for Ian's butchered version of Sonic Generations.Can't you buy the JP version instead?
>>527845772That's fair. There are many open world games with a focus on combat. Do you think Frontiers is better then them in those aspects?
>>527844364Honestly, I like JapNic here, but I do have taste for pushover Sonic, imagine sonic reluctantly having sex with you because I'm his biggest fan and he doesn't want me to feel bad or dissapointed.
>haha.. Yeah uhh>*reluctantly spreads his boy pussy*>umm *gulp* I guess you can help yourself buddy haha.. God, why is Sonic so damn hot, bros? I swear, I can't fucking help it, What did Sega do so right??
>>527846234I don't believe so. I genuinely do enjoy playing the game, but a big part of the appeal is Sonic. If I turn on Frontiers, it's because I'm in the mood to play a Sonic game. The combat and open world aspects are just what make Frontiers stick out in particular for me.
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>>527844240Of the launch titles I’ve tested Sonic might be the blurriest, Sega thinking FSR and AMD tech is still viable is gonna really hurt them this gen if they refuse to adapt.
>>527846665I see. So Frontiers' strong point is that it combines Sonic gameplay with an open world and a combat system, correct?
Would you have sex with Shadow if he offered
Robotniks have the family tradition of fucking Hedgehogs
>>527845889cute crack ship
>>527847489I draw the line at cuddling and forehead kisses
>>527847770marry blaze
fuck amy
kill slopurge
>>527847770marry blaze
fuck amy
kill surge
>>527847770marry blaze, fuck surge, kill amy
I'm not even a blazefag she'd just be a better wife than surge
>>527847770marry surge
marry blaze
marry amy
what would idw you be like
>>527847770Marry Blaze
Fuck Surge
Send Amy home
>>527847489I don't need his consent
>>527847924you shall not marry the animals brother mashallah
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They’re pissed there’s no rail grinding and wall riding in Crossoworld, and that Extreme Gears are apparently worse than Karts. There’s also a term being thrown around called “Sonic Believers” which is used to describe people in the general who are delusional about Sonic having a comeback both in Japan and World Wide, and “Nintendo Believers” a term being used to describe people they think are delusional enough to think Switch 2 will sell well and that Mario Kart World won’t flop.
One user mentions Sonic not being in Nintendo Directs anymore is going to significantly effect how many people even hear about the new games
People arguing about how Americans cry about prices too much
And someone suggesting Mario and Link show up as guests chasing another user to cry about that not being fair to Steam players.
Biggest difference between our generals is they don’t talk about the comics or media outside of X at all.
>>527847770marry blaze
fuck amy
kill surge
>>527848223We really are no different....
>>527848223>There’s also a term being thrown around called “Sonic Believers” which is used to describe people in the general who are delusional about Sonic having a comeback both in Japan and World WideLmao this is so funny yet 100% true
>>527848451Except they actually talk about Sonic games unlike /sthg/
>>527848751im waiting until I beat generations to give my opinion
Sonic breaking into anon's house and raping him
>>527848223>Sonic Believers>Nintendo BelieversThese guys are alright
Non white people have no souls
>>527848223The Japanese are okay with being overcharged?
>>527849252Wind wind wind the wind always wins.
>>527849442most high quality on-topic post itt
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>>527849452i remember seeing stuff like this during freakleak, they're shockingly loyal to their companies. I'm not sure if that extends to everyone or just this genre of people though
>>527849452There never been a unified pricing system in Japan
>>527849442What's with this racist ass gringxs?
>>527849817Japan is a very "follow the crowd" and "respect your superiors" type of Country.
>>527849754i like lanolin a lot
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>>527849953Settle down latinx
>>527850159you es obsesst about mi o algo *i atomic brap so hard I rocket across the border and crash into the nearest welfare office blowing it up like 9/11*
>>527849953you will never be white
>>527849442How do you apply this kind of racism to islanders? By fur color? By species? Neither, both?
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>>527850340Why are you like this?
>>527850293You ain't doing shit, Pablo
>>527845970Please man, as if the original sonic generation had a deep story, the only plus in the original is having uncensored character behavior in cutscenes like sonic pushing amy away.
>>527850723Then I can just play the Xbox 360 or Steam copies of the original Sonic Generations I already bought ages ago.
Shadow Generations alone doesn't seem worth the asking price.
>>527850723I think the 2011 version is less janky
>>527850457At least he's trying to make it on-topic.
>>527850257Cute and Canon rouge reaction
>>527847489I'd totally cuddle with him, but gay sex is weird.
>>527850257This is in-character
They've added a few new characters to Sonic Blitz, it got launched in Brazil
Imagine cuddling Shadow and sleeping with him like he's a teddy bear
>>527851925Nobody cares about Blitz besides Archiefags huffing copium.
>>527851925Why are you guys so eager to consume slop?
>cares
>not an archiefag
Now what?
>>527852327Play a better Sonic game
>>527852518Until you beat my time on Splash Canyon, I'm free to do whatever I want.
>>527852645Nta but what is your time?
>>527852705https://files.catbox.moe/7k03e1.mp4
>>527852776This was the future of Sonic in another timeline
Better translation
https://8ch*n.moe/fast/res/39549.html
This is going to sound unhinged, but I unironically think Nintendo forced Mario Kart Worlds out fast as possible in response to Sonic Crossworlds.
>everyone who plays the last two Sonic Kart games love it more than Mario Kart
>Nintendo takes the multi vehicle system from AST and TSR
>Sonic announces last year a Cross World racing game, no release date
>somewhere around April Nintendo says they're doing an open world Kart game
>everyone says the open world feels unfinished and empty
It makes me think they shit the world out as fast as possible to try to get people to buy it and stop leakage to Sonic Crossworlds. I'm not joking, I legit think they rushed a world system in response to SCW
>>527852776I know this pic is used to mock modern sega of america and idw.
But being serious for a moment i really want to know why sega of america tought it was a good idea to modify sonic (talking about america mohawk game cover) and using of all dudes, the raising guy, when even by those days standards, they were considered incredibly ugly.
>>527850293>you es obsesst about mi o algo
>>527847770Marry Amy.
Fuck Blaze.
Kill Surge.
>>527853074Mario Kart World was in development for years before Crossworlds was even a thing.
Marry anon
Fuck the ocs
Kill the namefags
>>527843572>>527843823>>527844335>>527844554Is Evan based for giving us so much Silver slander?
>want to fap
>look for a ryona vid of bark destroying sonic
>YT channel deleted
>"maybe i'll just settle for [artist]'s sfm stuff today"
>FA account deleted
what the FUCK is going on? has everybody gone coo coo?
>>527854025>ryona vid of bark destroying sonic...why?
>>527853874please don't fuck my OCs
>>527854062Do you have any art of Shadow and Maria crying together? Like at the same time?
>>527854025Drop the artist's name.
>>527854418I might, but that's an odd request, why do you want it?
>>527854545Crying together is a great way to bond.
When I read IDW:
>Hear Sonic in Roger Craig Smith's voice
When I read the manga:
>Hear Sonic in either Jun'ichi Kanemaru or Ryan Drummond's voice
>>527854156because
>>527854436don't look it up unless you like hypnosis and/or five toes
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>>527853874>Fuck the ocsWhich ones...
Sonic kissed a human woman?
>>527854657Okay
Do you have a point?
>>527854627You want one where they're both sad...?
So does Ghost Tikal just stay on Angel Island the whole time?
>Windbros being vindicated by some new manga when Sonic isn't even as popular in Japan
How did Americans miss the mark?
>>527854901Tikal moved on to the afterlife.
>>527854712Uh? Does this really make you wanna fap? I don't really get it.
Movie and IDW fags on suicide watch
>>527855062Only up until the next issue drops, which will be overflowing with LGBT subtext that makes them "win" for some reason.
>>527854951Distorted view on Sonic due to the American media never being consistent.
Like, you play the games with its SoA fanfic manuals, and then have SatAM, AoStH, and Archie that are completely different from each other and it. America never knew what Sonic was.
>>527854882Y-yeah...thanks. You didn't have to.
>>527854712why do you fap to this
>there are still people that actually think the movies will lose somehow
Literally saved Sonic and made it mainstream again.
>>527855027>>527855290the violence in sonic the fighters is more on the cartoony side but i can work with it
this franchise doesn't really have a whole lot of good ryona material
>>527855339No, that was Shadow.
>>527855062Moviebros are literally the celebrities in the franchise.
IDWbros are fucked, though. They're gonna be cancelled after a year and haven't told a single good story or had an ionic moment. It's forgettable.
>>527853927Yes indeed, she's Unironically is the driving force behind the Silver slandering, that's what happen when you try to turn a Japanese made character into Tumblr OC. I'd like to make her aware that's she fully responsible for this I want to make her feel bad about it that she can escape it, she will always be known as that one writer who made Silver lame and gay kek.
Keep posting Gold with greentext of her being disgusted by Silver
>>527855421you seriously think the book won't resume under a different publisher?
>>527855339And the Minecraft movie made infinite money despite being fucking horrible.
>>527855521This is a literal cope. Did Fleetway and Archie resume under a different publisher? No. Just accept the comic is done.
Reddit = AOSTH/SATAM/Archie/Fleetway/Underground/Boom/Prime/IDW/Movies/games post Black Knight
4chan = 90's manga/OVA/00's manga/Sonic X/game adaptations manga from Unleased to Shadow Generations/Blade of Courage/games up to Black Knight
>>527855604Things are considerably more centralized now than they were when Archie died. It wouldn't be a stretch for a new book to pick up from where IDW leaves off.
>>527855536Minecraft is more popular than Sonic.
>>527843727Gold was supposed to be Silver's alternate counterpart. It would be selfcest.
>consumes all of that
What now?
>>527855832>Silver's alternate counterpartSo if Gold is a lesbian, doesn't that mean Silver is straight?
>>527855832That's not how that works.
>>527855879Then how does it work?
>>527855767And Minecraft deserved better than that shitty fucking movie. But idiots will still defend these godawful films just because they rake in cash from retards.
Duo lost
Westniggers lost
Krack won
>>527855871No, it means Silver likes men in contrast to Gold liking women.
Do you think that the earlier pre-Reboot Archie issues (except the first slapstick ones) had a surreal, unnerving and weirdly creepy atmosphere? They feel really divergent from the games, much more than any other media. The odd art style is also pretty alienating.
>>527855930Gold looks and acts nothing like Silver. It isn't selfcest because nobody is fucking themselves.
A Gold based on Canonver wouldn't be attracted to Silver BECAUSE he's too confident and capable.
>>527856007None of that means anything.
>>527856065I had more of that vibe reading Fleetway.
>>527856110Evan said she was his counterpart. So she is him. Take it it up with Evan.
>>527856129That's actually a really neat take.
People who grew up with 90's Sonic get the rope.
>>527855834Oh, I understand now...
Saying you're an "Everythingfag" is just a less abrasive way for you to admit you are a mindless, insipid, hyperfixated consoomer that would shamelessly shill any sort of half-baked, beneath contempt, lambasted, pigshit content that sega or any 3rd party media company pulls out their convulsing, shitty rectum. The last thing this insidious and shitty fanbase needs is to force disingenuous, toxic positivity which ""everythingfags"" A.K.A, walking, biological, garbage disposals with legs want to push so badly in which is in order to be the ideal sonic fanboy is for you to love and worship all facets of the fanbase and franchise no matter how shit and contrived it is. Even ignoring the complaints leveraged by fans who refuse to associate themselves with them really shows how tasteless everythingfags are. They're only obsessed with trying to convert the whole world to their inane retarded, destructive and ultimately wrong opinions. Lobotomite furfags that calls themselves "sonic fans" often use this tactic to push other fans to like dated, westoid Sonic garbage and or often try hide behind everythingfaggotry to shill their awful ham-fisted and inept westshit fanfictions filled with incoherent drivel and nonsensical, edgy and asinine plot lines. All bottom of barrel garbage by talentless hacks that sega (and fans with adequate taste) rightfully doesn't want to associate with anymore. They can't refute or argue against any kind of sophisticated criticism thrown at them and call you a "jap purist" or "gatekeeper" because that's all their potato brained minds can equate up to. Not everyone wants to consoom your half-hearted and awful goyslop in your feeble hugbox. People can like and hate whatever part of the franchise they want.
This is and always will be true and if you disagree you can cry about it and stick a grenade up your botched neovagina for all I care.
>>527856226That's retarded. You're retarded. Why are you retarded?
>>527856398I'm retarded for repeating what Evan said about Gold?
>>527856129Gold modelled after "canon" silver would be the opposite of what she is currently. She'd be the top in the relationship.
Goddamn, EVERYONE is praising the manga. People are also unironically shitting on IDW and saying this is the first time in years Sonic has acted IC.
Shit, this is glorious.
>>527856723Because there's no sensible logic in Evan Stanley's bullshit.
>>527856667Honestly, it reveals that everyone always felt this way about IDW, but they never had anything that called it out.
>>527856843Does it?
I imagine most of the manga praise would be coming from people who have ALWAYS been critical of IDW, whereas the smoothbrains who actually like IDW just wouldn't say anything.
>>527856843>>527856895reminds me of how people praised Ian because he was a step up from Penders
>>527856357>copypastaNot an everythingfag either
>>527856648>Gold based on Canonver likes insecure dweebs who need their hands held.>Silver isn't her type because he's too bullheaded and abrasive, which ends up causing them to butt heads.Woag
>>527856895Even IDW's own fans have slipped up on occasion and admitted that comic is subpar or just not goodly written. That Clean Sweepstakes arc was really testing how much they could defend the comic. And the comic is constantly gets shit thrown at it on this site, from here, /co/, and /v/ and that's because everyone is anonymous and can be unfiltered.
>>527857187Gold would love Jewel and Belle, maybe Lanolin when she opens up more. If you want straight ships, Rough or Tumble could work.
>>527857394Gold isn't bisexual.
>>527857359>Clean SweepstakesIs that arc canon to the games? Was it referenced in Crossworlds?
>>527857187Sounds like a way more interesting than what Archie gave us thanks to Evan's misunderstanding of Silver. We really missed opportunities here.
>>527857493>Was it referenced in Crossworlds?Yes it was.
>>527857359>Clean SweepstakesIt was carried entirely by the art, and then promptly ruined by the shitty attempt to force a mystery, drama, and Mimic's godawful reveal. Terrible.
Sissyver watches Gold lick Blaze's pussy.
>>527857697It also had Belle, and Evan's gay birds.
>>527857493>>527857582Guys, that's fake. Someone made a batch of fake rival dialogue screenshots on Discord and spread them around.
>>527857771It's just a meme at this point.
>>527857771Oh is it? I knew the Amy one was fake, didn't know that one was too.
>>527857771Thank God, that isn't real!
I hope that IDW NEVER becomes canon to the games.
>>527857868honest question, how much glue do you sniff on a daily basis?
>>527857394>>527857580I'm picturing her as a sharp-eyed ice queen kind of girl, with a soft side for people who "clearly" need someone to tell them what to do, even if she hides it beneath what seems like irritation.
The kind that goes "Tsk, you really are hopeless, aren't you?" even as she gives them her hand to help drag them along.
The idea of Archie Gold and Silver, and this Gold and Silver, meeting each other, only for the Golds to immediately hone in on the other one's Silver is hilarious to me.
>>527858143Gold would literally fuck herself if that happened
>>5278555044chan ate my big ass post but the tldr was:
>Evan helped Silver slander but she is not wholly responsible for it>Silver was slandered since his debut with fag art by male fans that hate him>Uwuver is not just from Archie and IDW but from the burst of shipperfags that joined in from the Olympics games where everyone looks happy (see also a lot of Blaze fanart)>Shonen hype culture targets anyone and Silver gets the worst of it because of Frontiers, Shadow Generations, and that he has done nothing of nothing of note despite being a male hedgehog Silver suffers from a perfect storm that is kept alive by social media
>>527858246drawfags, make it happen!
That's fine, I still have the originals
>>527847770I corrected the gamma and contrast
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>>527858143>Archie Gold sees Canon Silver>"I want him to dominate me.">Canon-adjacent Gold sees Archie Silver.>"I will keep him safe and spoil him like the boywife he is."
Scourge based on Windnic and Gold based on IC Silver? Drastically improved. /sthg/ has done it again.
>>527858628Thanks, anon.
I would... kiss Amy, hug Blaze and ignore Surge,
How much do you think Amy weighs?
>Gold destroyed Silver so badly that she needs to be rewritten
Evan is better at hating Silver than actual Silver haters. Her love for him loops around to destroying him. Based.
How will Rouge tease Yuuta?
>>527859264Gold as she currently is only works with Uwuver. She becomes redundant with a Silver that's written accurately and would need to be changed to reflect him properly.
>Canon-adjacent Gold according to /sthg/
This is boring. We need more Wade content.
>>527859523I'm thinking of abstract character dynamics that could potentially lead to romance later down the line under certain scenarios potentially involving other new characters. I have no time for porn.
>>527859757>I'm thinking of abstract character dynamics that could potentially lead to romance later down the line under certain scenarios potentially involving other new characters.What do you have in mind?
>>527859757the greentexts i've seen of gold and saleta are more interesting than anything related to silver
>>527859757Romance is porn for the soul
>>527857394>Canonold x JewelI ship it.
>>527859813Let's talk about what canon-adjacent Wade Whipple would be like.
>>527857742Silver is such pussy that Gold would rather fuck a real Pussy
>>527860078I really don't see the movie characters acting different except for dynamics changing. Although, I can kinda see Game Knuckles taking on an apprentice depending on the circumstances. Game Knuckles would probably put Wade through the wringer compared to Movie Knuckles.
>>527860078Wade could be put in the games unchanged.
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>they're literally admitting it
It's over, man.
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>>527838469i can't believe ian the flynn wrote sonc hedgehog mang
>>527860278>>527860293>Wade is wind approvedBased
I hope all IDW sonic trannies kill themselves. Sonic manga won.
I miss when you could talk about characters without shipping being involved somehow.
>>527860445Despite the Sonic characters being written different, most of the movie characters have personalities that can work universally. Their relationship with the characters would change based on the continuity, but not how they act.
>>527860410>Blade of Courage made everyone realize IDW is OOC and written like shitSeriously, how can IDW recover from this?
>>527859813I was pondering the fact that despite Gold being designed around fitting a sort of Amy role for Silver, both versions of her seem specifically tailored into not being into their version of Silver.
This is leading me to think that this is either just a flaw with Gold's inherent design philosophy, or that the Gold and Silver dynamic works more as a sort of Sonic and Rouge dynamic, where their numerous similarities ends up making them as much of kindred spirits as it does "rivals".
The issue is that I'd need to brainstorm a Knuckles-esc figure to look further into this dynamic, and I don't really want to atm.
>>527838469>sonic manga if it was liquid shit (ian flynn was hired)
idw characters have been mentioned and cameod in games and videos on their social media and are playable characters in the mobile games, to say they aren’t relevant is just straight up false especially when Iizuka says he wants to add them into the games sometime in the future which is more then what any of Sonic X’s characters got lol
>>527860293>>527860445iirc it got 'leaked' (or maybe someone was pulling our leg) a while back that Wade has an internal character sheet.
>>527860410The guy is literally shitposting. He defends Flynn constantly
>>527860661Everyone knew, they just didn't have any other Sonic media that provided proof and reference.
>>527860683Rouge isn't sonic's rival what
>>527860636I hate trying to talk about Sonic, Silver, or Blaze because it always just ends with shippers ripping each other apart instead of talking about how the characters actually interact with each other.
IDW deserves this for no classic Chaotix special. The classic comics were the best part of the comic.
>>527860830She finds Sonic to be the ultimate challenge because her tricks don't work on him and he's always one step ahead, and Sonic finds Rouge intriguing because he loves trying to decipher her nonsense, and he knows there's no real risk to taking it easy around her because she's not truly heartless.
>>527860878Every character is x is ooc as shit though
I'M THE KNIGHT OF THE WIIIIINDDDDDDDD
I'M FALLING FREEEE IN THE WIND IN THE WIND
HE'S LIKE THE WIND
I HAVE NO MASTER EXCEPT THE WIND THAT BLOWS FREE
SONIC WIND
BRAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
>>527860878Not current. IDWfags only respond to things that are in the now. You could show them scene of Sonic X and they would discard and complain about Chris. And Sonic X always has allegations for not being entirely in-character and even being accused of having "worse" version of them characters. The Sonic manga is current and showed that IDW's characterizations aren't actually the standard.
Hi anyone in the mood for a short little essay on the fundamental differences between IDW And Blade of Courage?
>>527860661In all likelihood, they can't.
The next several issues are largely written in advance, and at the rate IDW's going, they can't respond to it properly by the time they run out of business.
>>527861001>Rouge is more sonic's rival than knucklesGrim for certain people
>>527860825>ignoring the guy agreeing that the manga is better written than anything in IDW
>>527861162Yes, since IDW has been put on, what the zoomers, call "fraud watch" and it's been revealed the comic has a death date.
Is this the only scan of the manga out currently? It looks like a shitty snes filter
>>527861001>>527861186Just because you try to force this narrative here doesn't make it true, stop trying.
>>527861224I am talking about the guy saying that Flynn is colonizing the series. That person is shitposting they defend Flynn constantly.
>>527861182>IDW finally realizes it's been writing the series wrong after 7-8 years.>But at the last minute just before its car rides off a cliff.LMAO
>>527861258It worked for Shadally.
>>527861408Shadally was caused by a genie rape laser.
I need Gold drawn or edited with sharper eyes instead of the uwu eyes.
>>527861405I sincerely doubt Ian Flynn would admit he fucked up.
Evan might, has before, but it wouldn't change anything.
>>527861408Right, spamming on a dying website on a general with 20 daily users on average "worked". Don't beat around the bush, you come here because outside of insular communities no one gives a shit about 90% of the shit posted here.
>>527861526>no one gives a shit about 90% of the shit posted here.Isn't that for the best?
The final nail in the coffin for IDW is Sega stating it's not canon. It's the only thing IDWfags have that makes them think their comic is worth a damn.
>>527861689>SEGA realizes that IDW is a sinking ship and will pull out of the licensing deal as soon as they can if IDW doesn't die first.
What is happening that is causing Windfags to win all of a sudden?
>>527862161Sonic's written in character for the first time since Pongraff
>inb4 japs still have to save the other charactersshush
IDW is unsettling. It released over 25 years into Sonic's life, yet treats itself like an early adaptation without much source material to go off of and uses its original awkwardly designed characters as the focus over the actual main cast, but still feels too sterile and corporate without that unique early installment weirdness.
>>527860479There is literally nothing wrong with being trans. Maybe you should take your own advice
>>527861258Sega themselves are more interested in rouge's dynamic with sonic and shadow than they are knuckles. You don't have to do anything.
>>527861246The biggest thing that hit me is how they handle Yuta vs IDW's OC parade. Yuta is written as a one-shot companion character who gets swept up in Sonic's world, learns something, and that's it. He's not trying to be the next permanent addition to the Sonic cast like every IDW character desperately wants to be. Meanwhile IDW keeps shoving Whisper, Tangle, Belle, Surge, Kit and all these other forgettable furries at us like "please care about our OCs, they're totally gonna be in the games guys!"
And holy shit, Sonic actually feels mysterious and cool again instead of this relatable therapy hedgehog bullshit. The manga treats him like this enigmatic force of nature who shows up, does weird endearing shit like randomly cleaning train windows, and inspires people just by being himself. Compare that to IDW where Sonic's biggest character moment is consoling his robot daughter or giving pep talks to his war buddies.
The story structure is pure kino too. It runs on coincidence and random encounters, which is exactly how Sonic stories should work. These characters are supposed to be free spirits having adventures, not military operatives following Restoration protocol. IDW is so obsessed with explaining why everyone is together and justifying every action through their stupid organization that it sucks all the magic out of it.
It's literally written like a Doctor Who companion introduction story and it works perfectly. Sonic shows up in someone's normal life, takes them on an adventure, changes their perspective, and moves on. That's the formula! But IDW would rather have 50 issues of setup explaining why the Restoration needs to recruit this person and how their tragic backstory connects to the larger mythology.
The manga embraces mystery while IDW tries to explain everything to death.
>>527862458Because its head writer holds the image of an early unfaithful adaptation as the true gospel.
>>527862161Quite honestly I think the wrangling of Bumblekast was an eye-opener at Sega
>>527860479>surge from sonic's DNA, yet she's a girlthis is unbelievably retarded.
>>527862508To be more explicit, the writers only know Sonic through Archie. IDW is uncanny to anyone who actually played a Sonic game.
>>527862486Mmmmhm, whatever you say. Try not to be too annoying spamming your fanfic, kay?
>>527862508>>527862714It still feels more off than Archie despite being more sane. Archie was its own thing and embraced that. IDW is forced.
>>527862830Thats because Ian and Evan want to hold onto whatever bit of Archie they can, and a setting based on the games is just not the place for that.
>>527862830Because it's set in a game adjacent world, yet is clearly trying to be something else (Archie). It's fighting against it's own nature. It doesn't want to be a game adaption and that ends up ruining the entire appeal of the comic.
>>527862714>play SA2>Wow this sonic guy is kind of a dick>Read IDW>Wow this sonic guy is pretty cool and relatableSaid nobody except Ian
>>527862807Unlike you, I hope he spams his fanfic.
>>527862976What if Shadow met Freddy Krueger?
>>527863150He'd kick his ass.
>>527862489What baffles me is that Evan Stanley watched Doctor Who so she is familiar with it but proceeds to not take any lessons from it
Ian doesn't have Sonic inspire people because Ian sees Game Sonic as a menace because he isn't a proactive hero. He literally wants Sonic to act like a superhero like how Archie had him in this world-saving organization called the Freedom Fighters.
>>527863216Just because someone watches a show does not mean that can actually explain what makes it good
>>527860479''I believe Sonic is a girl who cut her tits''
Jesus christ, this is one of the reasons I don't want Sega of Japan ever listening the input of these ''creatives''.
>>527863304He technically does....he wrote that 5 page additional comic for the anniversary.
Also debatably Belle?
>>527863198Jobdow is not getting past the power glove.
The IDWverse and Archieverse would find CoroCoro Sonic too chaotic if he was placed in their worlds.
>>527862458>>527862830I think what people tend to forget was that IDW was always a band-aid. It was/is designed to be an expanded universe for Sonic Forces specifically, and it ran its course years ago when Frontiers came out.
>>527863507It "ran its course" way before Frontiers when we realized jack shit was happening in it. The protracted length of the Metal Virus arc was a telltale sign.
>>527863507It's gonna be grim when it's probably gonna be cancelled while STILL being a Forces continuation comic. Ian was a fucking retarded comic up with that idea. He compromised the whole comic.
>>527863632I thought the Forces continuation was Sega's deal?
>>527863719Nope. It was Ian's idea because it was the current game when the comic would come out.
>>527863785Probably because it was the most Archie-like setting he could see, closest to his comfort zone.
>>527863719It was Ian's. Supposedly it was because Forces was the current thing, but I'd be willing to believe it's because Forces had that whole world at war and Resistance thing going on.
>>527863870Yeah, it was his backdoor to write an Archie-like comic. If the latest game didn't have that premise Ian likely wouldn't have the comic take place after it.
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>>527863507>you had -SIX MONTHS- of fucking lore to tell>a story where the world doesn't have its windnic>a story where Eggman essentially liquidates GUN>a story where Sonic's friends come together in a windless world>a story where hope is kept alive in trying times>set it all the fuck afterwardsIDW deserved to fail.
Sega could get the wrong message from the few posts I seen about the manga praising it for only having Sonic.
>>527864046or make every Sonic story have a human OC. imagine the shipping...
>>527864046It's just the first chapter. The other characters will probably appear. But even if they don't the praise is about Sonic being written more like himself, not about him being the only canon character in it.
You guys don't get it. The best way to use Tangle would have been to make her Sonic's companion, straight up Rose Tyler-style.
Think about it. Sonic is the Doctor. He's a weird, ancient, nomadic hero who is basically a force of nature. You can't really write him as a relatable protagonist because he doesn't change or have normal character arcs. He just shows up and makes the plot happen to other people.
That's where the companion comes in. Tangle is perfect. She's the normal person from a nowhere town who gets swept up in the adventure. She can be the audience surrogate, asking the questions we're all thinking. "What's a Chaos Emerald?" "Who's that Shadow guy?" She provides the normie perspective. She can have the character arc that Sonic can't.
It would have solved all her problems. Instead of being glued to Whisper and forced to be her therapist, she could have been off seeing the world with Sonic. She'd get to interact with the whole cast, have fun, and be the energetic adventurer she was meant to be. It would give the stories a proper anchor and let Sonic be the cool, mysterious hero without having to carry the whole narrative on his back. It's such an obvious and winning formula, but instead they stuck her in a dead-end pairing.
>>527864046Sonic was the only one that ever mattered. Not the humans. Not the shitty friends
>>527864034They also like ignoring the game cast every chance they get so most of the time we're stuck with sonic's shittier friends
>>527864169Tangle needs to go. She's unnecessary.
>>527864132Honestly it is kind of refreshing to see a story with JUST Sonic in it.
>>527864034>IDW remake set before Sonic is freed where all the OCs get Rogue-One'd
>>527864209You're probably more refreshed not seeing furry OCs all over the place trying to steal Sonic's spotlight.
>>527864183>Not the humans.Anon...
>>527864132I mean I literally saw direct praise for only having Sonic.
>>527864189>The ian cult letting someone this little in popularity live rent free in their minds and stealth tweets him to seethe kek, they are on suicide watch
>>527864169>She can be the audience surrogate, asking the questions we're all thinking. "What's a Chaos Emerald?" "Who's that Shadow guy?" She provides the normie perspective. She can have the character arc that Sonic can't.My problem with Tangle is that a lot of her character traits step on Amy's toes, but her being utterly clueless and eager would have been nice for a comic aimed at reeling in new fans.
>>527864286Silence, human fetishist. Your kind are always trying to takeover the franchise. Give you a crumb and you take the whole bakery
>>527864034Problem with that is Sonic's written out of the plot.
>they could've easily used Classic Sonic insteadTrue, but mandates are a bitch.
There is not even denial. They all fucking knew IDW was garbage with everyone written OOC, but they had nothing official to debunk it -- just "Windfags/JP Purists/Gamefags" complaining. The manga is just a humiliation ritual.
>>527864271>Crying lesbian wolf>Crying lesbian monkey>Crying Orphan Puppet>Sheep Sally>BugGee what a knockout cast. And to top it all off, they're frequently joined by silver, everyone's favorite gardener.
>>527864169>people complaining about humans in Sonic>"let's make it an obscure primate animalShe had the potential to be the best "human" OC, it's amazing how unrealized the concept was in the end.
>>527864687I like Bug. Bug is fine.
The human OCs have been knocking it out of the park with the movies and now the manga. What a turn around from the old days where humans were accused of being the "problem" with Sonic. Meanwhile, the blobian donut steels are making everyone fatigued.
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>>527864687Archie's bug was more useful
for the anon that was waiting, here it is
>>527847770Fuck Amy because her heart will always belong to Sonic.
Marry Blaze so that I can help her rule.
Kill Surge so that Kit can finally be free.
>>527864449>utterly clueless and eagerScrappy Doo syndrome has a short shelf life.
>>527864687>Every single one of them listed have been pointless besides eating up page space that could've been given to characters fans actually give a shit about.The people writing the comic clearly want to make their own series, but know they don't have a career outside of Sonic.
>>527864687The addition of Silver as one of the only relevant game characters somehow makes this already terrible cast worse. Put this comic out of its misery.
>>527864560I saw the two cakes woman even admit straight up she can see the differences in how Sonic is written
>>527864687The last time I checked into IDW they were trying to solve the mystery of silver's garden or some shit. I had originally stopped reading after sonic and Tails fought that giant cave fish
Everyone's favorite humans Jim Carrey, Gay for Jim Carrey, and Tom the Cop. Not Wade. Nobody likes Wade for stealing Knuckles' show
>>527865000It's because the comic is being written by a Silverfag even due she didn't know who the real Silver was until recently.
>>527864912Your version of clueless and eager, and my version of clueless and eager, are apparently different.
>>527865075The Wade hate is overblown, and I like him and his arc a lot. His family is obnoxious as hell, and Wade catches the flak for their bullshit.
>>527865213I care.
>>527865000 He's practically an honorary comic character since even Silverfags don't want to count 06 as an example of his gameplay and theorizing how he should play is one of his main draws
>>527838469Remember when people considered this "peak" when Sonic said it in IDW when it was in its early days?
>>527817289 (OP)>DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 18 June 2025does someone have that already?
Is it me or has this franchise resulted in more idiots coming in with post essays and video essays on what they think the franchise is and how everybody else is wrong?
I feel like nobody really likes this frachise they like arguing about it, in a way it's like politics you either are actively trying to achieve a goal or you're just here to argue and increase your personal status by arguing. basically if you were to compare fanbases Sonic's fanbase fits liberalism compared to Mario's conservatism, Nintendo releases a Mario game and tells you take it or leave it, they take it and no matter how shit Mario games get, they've been in decline since the Gamecube games, the fanbase will turn out for them and give Nintendo their money, where as the Sonic base, the liberals in this instance will almost never turn out in mass for any Sonic project because it doesn't add up to their perfect version, in short, this fanbase has too much individualism like liberals and the entire IP suffers as a result, sadly I don't know how Sega can mold their base into a more conservative style base and start making money I haven't thought that far yet.
also before anyone starts polfagging I do not mean this as a one for one of liberal vs conservative ideals and beliefs it was just an example please don't turn this already chaotic general into something even more messed up.
so let me get this straight
you complain about impulsive sonic who does stuff only because he wants to (fleetway) because it was written by the west
but you love impulsive sonic who does stuff only because he wants to (blade of courage) because it was written by the japanese?
>>527865058>not detail orientatedngl I thought he just thought all humans look the same except the egg-shaped man
>>527865314"Peak" has lost any and all meaning here, just like "we won".
>>527865326Fleetway Sonic was yet another superhero character and had a really rough attitude compared to other Sonic incarnations.
>>527865326You know what you're doing. Why?
>>527865357Where are you guys reading this?
Why can't the IDW retards understand that "two cakes" doesn't fucking work here as long as they keep peddling that the stupid comic is "canon". It's not "IDW fans get something and JP fans get something and JP fans can just ignore IDW" because we can't ignore it. The way things are going, Ian and Evan want to peddle this bullshit into the games. Into media I can't ignore. You can not say "it's just their creative vision" because they don't own these characters. If you're going to make media about GAME SONIC I should expect him and the other characters to act like they do IN THE GAMES. I would be able to accept the rhetoric of just letting IDW fans enjoy their version of Sonic the same way Archie fans did if it were not canon. But it apparently is, so the writers don't get to have an unscathed separate creative vision. Either fix it or gtfo.
>>527865328I remember when this posting was at its peak after the announcement he can no longer do Sonic questions. So many funny edits were made.
Westnic has fallen
Nipponic fucking won
>>527865476Don't invoke probability, it could just as easily come crashing down.
>not talking about games
>The only sonic media that matters
>Bitching about non canon manga and movies again
You all continue to disappointment
>>527865476And it's all IDW's fault. It converted people to the wind. Not even Archie was able to do that to people with its shitty content.
>>527865357She's not talking about the art, she's talking about IDW's fixation on explaining everything
>>527865528Did you know that you can press B to grind faster?
>>527865528I'll talk about the games when Ian stops writing them. I don't care about his obsession with making the characters "his way" and trying to shove Archieshit in them instead of writing a good story and making the characters act right. Just bring in Yuki Imada if Sega is hellbent on not bringing Maekawa back.
>>527865629>grind>faster>werehoghhhhrrrrnnnnggg
What was THAT issue that made you give up on IDW?
For me and a lot of people, it was the "Cowards run, I win!" Shadow issue. I stopped taking the comic seriously after that.
Ian and Evan created an entirely new generation of Sonic fans who like completely different versions of the character. It really is just Archie 2.0 except because they hang onto the delusion of IDW's canonicity, they think ooc versions of characters are justified instead of realizing it needs to be fixed.
>>527865683Fleetway fans eat that much Mcdonalds?
>>527865793It was boring. simple as. and the Shadow abuse pissed me off a lot
>>527865802>It really is just Archie 2.0more like diet archie or archie-lite
>>527865802They're like Archiefags who stepped into the abyss. Instead of desperately wanting to be canon, they genuinely think they're actually canon. I'm pretty sure that's the only reason they even care about the comic at this point. The moment someone at Sonic Team says the comic is it's own universe and not canon, all its remaining fans will disperse.
>>52786579350
You can tell that was the breaking point for a lot of normalfags that still had any interest in the comic because even big name sonictubers and the broader community don't even care to know what goes on in the comic anymore. The Lanolin debacle just convinced them to stay away
>>527865357"O-oh yeah! Humans! There's Professor Pickle... Eggman... Donut...Lord... and, um, Pretzel Lady..."
>>527866121.. and that rich kid... and that girl in the wheelchair... and that princess.
Whenever I see youtubers mention IDW characters these days you can tell they don't actually read the comic or know what the fuck happens in it, they only care about the designs of OCs like Surge and the idea of what she could be. I genuinely don't think many people would complain if they put the characters in the games with completely rewritten backstories. It would just be a small minority of IDWtards who will be drowned out by the usual overly positive crowd that just consumes the games. They will realize the majority of fans don't actually care about IDW.
What's the point of having "two cakes" if one of the cakes are going to be permanently out of stock in a year?
what I've learned is that sonic will only help you if you are a rich kid or have superpowers
>>527866380Its not just idwtards. Anyone that cares and values the canon of Sonic would be up in arms including myself. Its a shitty thing to do to include the characters and rewrite their backstories. You can include them without rewriting anything.
>>527865731Back from reading it. I missed him so much. I think if Sonic acted like this in the games again I would cry.
I am so autistic.
>>527866496>values the canon of SonicBut if their first appearance in a game has them with different backstories, that means they were never actually canon to begin with and you were sold a marketing lie
>>527866450Helen wasn't rich and didn't have superpowers
>>527865551I also blame Frontiers having the most divided EN/JP script yet.
No one liked that shit, we liked our shit unified, stop doing that shit.
>>527866496IDW already rewrites the characters at a whim, especially their own OCs like Surge or Lanolin.
>>527866594I don't know why everyone's always obsessed with this idea of "muh different backstories"
What about Tangle or Whisper's backstories prevent them from being plopped in a game at random? Nothing. Not even current IDW arcs, since it is always going to be lagging behind the latest game and will never be concurrent.
>>527866602being disabled is a superpower because it gives you privelege
>>527866682Character development is rewriting now?
>>527866736And there it is.
>>527866701Tangle is the only one that doesn't have baggage. It's more referring to Whisper and her baggage with Mimic and Surge/Kit having three arcs worth of backstory that comes about because of an OC character that died and bones.
>>527866736You're an IDWtard
>>527866705Then I guess you have a superpower anon!
>>527866674We had differences between english and japanese scripts before, but Frontiers is the most drastic we've had of it in a game.
>>527866941>>527866782Surge and Lanolin legitimately developed. Lanolin apologized and Surge adapted her goals. I'm not defending shitty writing of game characters. Refute the argument.
>>527866840>Whisper and her baggage>Surge and KitThis is like saying using Shadow in a modern game is a problem because of his convoluted backstory. Or that using Silver in a game is a disaster because of time travel. Or that Knuckles' backstory makes him too complex to use. ???
>>527866736It's really amazing how IDWfags have no idea what character is. They think it's just a character acting a certain way in one issue and then acting a different way in the next.
>>527866840This. Nobody how much their fans cope, their whole backstories are confined the comic and no goddamn way is Sega is going to put the budget in a game recapping or retelling it to put players who never read the comic in the loop.
>>527866840That's not an issue. Every game informs you on what you need to know.
>>527867080Shadow's backstory comes from a fucking Sonic game, retard. If you're playing a Sonic game there is a likely chance you;re familiar with him already. Whisper, Surge, and Kit are asking you to look into an entirely different medium to understand them. Nobody's going to do that shit.
>>527867012Lanolin did not develop. Her character in the urban warfare is completely different from the bitchy hardass Evan characterized her as only for her "arc" to end back at how she acted during urban warfare. She didn't go anywhere or improve as a character. Surge on the other hand just started flipping on a dime and becoming more mellow because Evan started feeding fanon Surge headcanons hence why they started showing her with her hair down more. There is no development.
>>527867176>Nobody*No matter
>>527867272>an entirely different mediumWhy do people say this like we live in a time where comics aren't accessible as fuck? It is easier to read idw comics than it is to play Shadow the fucking Hedgehog, you know that? Being a game doesn't mean dick if it's an old game they refuse to rerelease
>>527867176Does Silver explain his origin every time he appears?
>yesSo they can do it for them too since its literally a line of dialogue's worth of explaining
>noSo then it wouldn't be a problem if they don't explain the ocs
>>527867351You didnt read the comic
>>527867407>It is easier to read idw comics than it is to play Shadow the fucking HedgehogAnd yet nobody wants to do it because they know they're mid as fuck. And please consider that some people do not want to have to read external media to understand the shit in the GAMES.
>>527867351Lanolin has basically went through three different characterizations in the comic. First it was the frightened civilian, then her pragmatic portrayal in Urban Warfare, and then the uptight cunt in Clean Sweepstakes stuff. I'm not even going to get started on Surge since she flip flops every arc. This comic is a mess and I wouldn't doubt the people writing it where alongside the ones who would say Sonic is inconsistent back in the old days.
>>527867526Nobody wants to emulate Shad05 either
>>527866991I remember Colours was pretty drastic too, but the difference there mostly came down to humour, whereas Frontiers was literally the Japanese taking one look at the English script product and going "nani desu ka, is this a rough draft?" Would not be surprised if they wanted a more unified script but it was too late for the English side to take in the Japanese feedback and they all tried to save face.
>>527867523I read the comic, you are just another IDWtard that has an excuse for every shit writing decision and are allergic to critique because of insecurities of your favorite ooc depictions.
>>527867407No one is going to want to read a comic to understand the whole backstory of a character in a game. It's not even a one issue deal. IDW is so sluggish that you would have to trudge through almost the entire comic to understand the story and dynamic of the characters. Fuck that noise.
Lanolin has exactly two characterizations, frightened civilian and what we see her evolve into by the time she becomes an actual character. I don't get how you all see her in the Phantom Rider arc and expect her to act 1:1 with Urban Warfare when there's obviously way more social stress because of all the team drama. And she does develop by the end of it, you wanna complain about characters having zero development in that arc bitch about Whisper and Tangle instead who learn fuckall from it.
>>527864812Bug is a crying lesbian bitch too after her #girlboss moment pointlessly crashing the ship, then joining their crying therapy circle so Tangle and Whisper could say “it’s not your fault, Clutch MANIPULATED and GASLIGHTED and MANSPLAINED to you”
>>527867012Surge's hatred of Sonic stems from the fact that IDWnic actively lets his villains run free, and would rather attack Surge for trying to stop them than actually solve the problem himself.
Surge's hatred of Sonic's friends and followers stems from the fact that these people are aware of this, yet choose to kiss Sonic's feet instead of sensibly getting angry at him for doing the equivalent of breaking criminals out of jail.
The idea that Surge would give a single shit about the opinion of the common nobody, especially after they tried to compare her to a "hero" like Sonic, runs completely counter to her entire character.
Surge should be furious that she's being praised as a hero because she knows what passes for a hero in the eyes of Sonic's shitty friends, and the only people she'd ever give a single damn about are people like her that have a problem with the status quo and aren't afraid to get their hands dirty.
Evan's the kind of person to redeem fucking Scourge, and she's doing the exact same thing to Surge, even if she has to trash everything about her in order to make it work. There is no development because the writers can't handle writing actual character development, they just throw a nonsense retcon on the table and handwave it.
>>527867609Then they watch the cutscenes instead on youtube. A fully voice acted animated cutscene is way easier to get through than how many hours of comic reading. Or they can just play the new game Shadow Generations that recaps everything you need to know about Shadow and is accessible on every console plus PC right now. IDWtards only have false equivalences for excuses and no ability to critically think why the thing they're comparing to is not the same as what everyone else is talking about.
>>527867896>pointlessly crashing the shipyou didn't read the comic
>>527868101>"That's_all_you_can_say" Dee Dee gif.
>>527867896Notice how they don't do that with Lanolin even though in that case it'd make more sense to be like "You were #MANIPULATED into doing it" than Jewel deciding to fucking bomb the ship into HQ somehow being Clutch's fault.
>>527868101I read the comics and there is blatantly a giant fucking body of water she could have dropped her giant death bomb into. Crashing the ship wasn't pointless but doing it on her HQ was absolutely insane and irresponsible as fuck. Imagine if Sonic wasn't there, everyone working for her would all be rewarded for their loyalty for her by fucking dying.
>>527868101Pointlessly set it to self destruct then, just to look cool and like she and the npc twittertranny ocs are #helping
Do you think the manga can save Silver?
>>527868101Classic IDWtard that can't read between the lines. We read the comic, yes we know why Jewel crashed the ship. It's being exaggerated because we found the scene to be stupid. You guys really need everything explained to you in exponential detail to understand something, no wonder you bootlick idw's shit. Actual literal retard dense motherfucking babies
>>527868325It's about as likely to save him as fucking up in front of Mimic and getting sent to the loser rehab zone with Lanolin and Jewel is.
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>>527866563Always thought having Windnic eat chilidogs was weird but they even did that in a fittingly quirky way.
Look forward to the official release and future issues, anon!
I can hand it to Archie for clearly not being like Sonic. IDW, on the other hand, skinwalks as the games while being completely distorted on them and I'm supposed to take it as canon.
>>527867870Lanolin is supposed to have only one characterization, that being an altruist who wants to help the little people the heroes overlook in whatever way she can.
This same character throws away everything altruistic about herself just to endanger random civilians, put personal pride over the safety of others, and a slew of other bullshit that goes against her ENTIRE reason for stepping up to help in the first place.
In the wise words of Ian Flynn, she's wildly inconsistent.
>>527868275>a giant fucking body of water she could have dropped her giant death bomb into.???
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>>527850293ronce status: bonced
Damn, I guess the perception of IDW really soured. I never read their comics all that much, should I feel bad?
>>527868229>>527868286>>527868364How it's pointless when you don't know what Clutch wants to do with the ship and you want to destroy his business?
30 minutes should be plenty and it could have worked out if Clutch hadn't destroyed the control panel next page
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What was even the point of this?
“You’re a meanie pants chud who commited a heckin problematic business dealing, so i’m gonna blow up this entire stadium with hundreds of civilians and heroes still on and trapped inside of it. That will teach you not to underestimate me or my wholesome diverse employees!”
Like bitch usually it’s the villain trying to kill everyone to tick off someone they dislike.
>>527868823No one actually liked the comic. It's just that people agreed to disagree or stayed silent until the manga came out and showed that what IDW was putting on pages was not the model for Sonic and was just the headcanon or ego of the writers. The manga didn't sway people, it made them stand up.
>>527869156you're not beating the allegations
>THIRTY minutes to ignition
>>527868823It had potential, but potential is never enough.
>Sonic has more badass moments in one chapter of the manga than in 75 issues of IDW
FVARK. JAPAN IS THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH
>>527869290>Le POTENTIALNo wonder the comic has Silver all over it.
>>527869257Wow thank you Jewel. In return for you getting to #own the chud who misgendered you or one of your tranny oc helpers, we get a whole 30 mins to evacuate this aircraft 5000 feet in the sky and run for our lives from your lgbt insanity
>>527869257>ayo ayo dem allegations n shiiet bruhSpeak like a white guy and not like a black twitter tranny
>>527869257THAT DOESNT JUSTIFY IT YOU IDWTARD.
She shouldn't risking everyone's lives on a 30 minute gamble just to get back at Clutch in a petty way. You're all so retarded jesus christ what do you not understand about what the other 3 anons said. Missed the point over and over that the problem is her doing this at all
>>527869309IDW would rather waste issues on their lesbian OCs talking about their feelings and crying while Sonic is nowhere to be seen.
>>527869362fuck you, i wanted to discuss, not to beat your strawman autism
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>>527869441even when sonic IS seen, he doesn't have any badass moments or cool feats. I'm reminded of that time Ian said that he hates it when Knuckles shoots meteors. They just dont want the characters doing anything cool
>complain that westnic is trying too hard to be spiderman
>cum when japnic apes spiderman by stopping a train
>>527869427It's not getting back at clutch in a petty way
Clutch is already risking everyone's lives hijacking the damn ship
What was she supposed to do?
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>>527869309This page was my one complaint actually because I don't see momentum-based physics.
>>527869156That's because Jewel IS the villain, and is the absolute worst person to mentor Lanolin right now. Her tears are akin to those of a crocodile, she tricks the audience, Tangle and all her "friends". It's not a coincidence she immediately joined Lanolin on the construction thing once she heard of it, you'll all see soon.
>>527869624Western Sonic is Spider-Man using quips (even less funny ones at that).
Japanese Sonic is only "like" Spider-Man by both stopping trains. That's it. He's not trying to ape Spidey, he was just in a similar situation as him.
>>527869626Fight Clutch along with the other characters in the room? Instead of signing everyone’s death sentence for a cheap #girlboss moment to pretend like she’s important or competent for being retarded?
>>527869686Sonic the CUNNING was holding back because he wanted to push Yuta. A train is childs play for him
>>527869541knuckles shoots meteors?
>>527869156This feels like they were desperate to find a way to shoehorn Jewel onto the climax, because otherwise the huge amount of time they wasted with putting her in the spotlight this arc would've been for nothing. So instead of doing the logical thing of having Clutch blow the place up in a fit of rage, we have the batshit stupid writing plot of Jewel putting literally everyone in danger for a cheap gotcha.
>>527869825Play Sonic Battle its better than sex
>>527869754>Fight Clutch along with the other characters in the room?They already did? And they lost? Clutch tied them up shortly after?
That's not a death sentence, that would have been a leverage against Clutch if he valued his own life
>>527868823The perception isn't THAT negative outside of here, go on any other site and it's more nuanced. For fucks sake ABT reposting comic concept art on shitter got more likes today than all the big reactions to the manga there, everything's just being overblown.
How'sabout y'all miserable FUCKS make yerselves useful and fetch me some comic character concept arts to use as inspirationne
>>527869626...Get them off the ship safely at a reasonable pace without the threat of impending death? I don't think setting the ship to explode actually helped save anyone at all.
>>527869156I only read this issue one time. Jewel was the one who actually set it to self-destruction, not Clutch?
>>527869909based fellow Sonic Battle enjoyer
please bear my kids
Do women really act like this bros?
What a fucking baby. She’s literally letting Tangle carry her like a crying baby in her blankie without hesitation
Then she’s posing there like she’s pretending she fainted on a loungechair while they pepper her with compliments
“You da best, guuuuurl, you so smawt and logical”
“You dun helped erryone, you stuck it out and did yo best guuurl and didn freeze fo nuthin”
“Dis all Clutch fault fo manipulatin you, you da boss biish, you aint bad da man be bad”
I think she just wants attention and for everyone to say nice things about her
It was 100% her fault by the way, there was nothing logical or valiant about blowing the ship up for no reason, which they don’t bring up or address because hey at least she owned old white male Clutch so she’s queen
You know what, the manga is actually a perfect demonstration for how IDWtards will see things as the same scenario but are unable to tell the difference on execution.
Sonic and the train scene versus the restoration getting hijacked are similar scenarios with high stakes betting against time. Lets break down what makes the manga's scenario work versus why IDW's is stupid.
Bank Robber is the one who initiates the train into a state where it's heading toward a building full of civilians while it's loaded with civilians with the intent of killing every one. Sonic racing against time and against all odds to save everyone in such a high stakes scenario is now justified and looks cool because he didn't put himself into that scenario and instead is working against the villain.
Jewel on the other hand, is supposed to be a protagonist but commits the same action the bank robber does in the manga. Not maliciously, but now it frames her as careless and petty. Clutch should've be the one to activate the self destruct sequence to make any of that drama work but instead he's the one panicking that everyone's about to blow up and die while Jewel just acts smug about it like she made a good decision. So yes they have 30 minutes to save everyone, but it's a race against time that our so called protagonists placed on themselves making it look stupid as fuck. And in the aftermath group talk with Silver the writers realize how shit of a decision that all actually was.
>>527869909>ian hates thisGuy is smoking whatever they hooked Sakurai up with to make Sonic's Smash moveset
>>527870158Yep, was Jewel. They were super desperate to make her own him because he mansplained to her 2 issues prior. Also a bunch of tranny staff ocs beat him up lmao
>>527870049ABT is an official artist, though. Of course he'll get more likes than some rando.
>>527870175I'm a boy you fucking faggot! DIE! SONIKU EAGLE!!!!!
Was anyone obsessed with this sprite in particular as a kid? I still think about it a lot. Its so perfect
>>527870205Sakurai at least has the excuse of "had to make Sonic super late because Sega fucked over his inclusion" + mega autism about changing the moveset of legacy characters
Ian is just a faggot
>>527867986>Then they watch the cutscenes instead on youtubeHow is this a real argument? We have Game Apologist who's like IDW Sonic's Comicstorian
>>527870205I swear, Ian has quite a list of dislikes for a series he's supposedly a big fan of. Isn't one of the points of being a writer is to make things work?
>>527870261Look, I'm with you on IDW not being good, but can you cool it a bit? You're making yourself look like a falseflagger and you're making the rest of us look retarded by association.
>>527870261What the fuck? How did they get away with Jewel doing this? That's Eggman Nega tier.
>>527870405You're on 4chan don't forget that
>>527867974Why are you bringing up Evan? Ian created Surge. Ian course-corrected Surge in the annual story where she became a hero/anti-villain. Surge is Ian's wholly.
>>527870405Maybe y'all retarded. Have you think bout that?
>>527870148Yeah, Clutch at ship's steer would totally let that happen
>>527870359It's a fucking axe kick, aka one of the coolest moves you can do that isn't the spinning back kick, or some crazy judo throw.
>>527870560Evan will just ignore it like all the other times.
>>527870359Alright that's it faggot, you're getting DEEP IMPACT!
That sprite alongside Shadow's pursuit attack and another sprite is amazing
https://youtu.be/IBGX85oliAg?t=52
>>527870743and then they all did it together!
>>527870197>The Virgin Jewel: Cries like a baby over her insane mistake, quits, needs comforting, Tangle turns into her mom>The Chad Lanolin: Admits to wrongdoing and details exactly why it was okay for others to distrust her, immediately works on fixing things, is emotional but cries exactly zero times, Tangle cracks joke at her expense
>>527870743my favourite sonic team
The Lesbian Crying Circle
>>527870560>Ian created Surge.He also said that he didn't want to redeem Surge, and that he felt like it went against her character, BUT since Evan was given the role of head writer for a time he had to "trust" her vision instead. Did you forget that Evan was made head writer, or something?
>course-correctedI thought you said this was supposed to be character development, but you're wording it like a retcon.
>>527870626It not only utilizes kicking power, but also rotation. The axe kick was fucking invented for Sonic the Hedgehog. They knew it was raw as fuck because there's key art of him doing
He did it in a Frontiers cutscene to witch made me cum on the spot
>>527870701Every single sprite in Battle is Elder-God teir. Thats why so many fan animations utilize them
Wana know something scary? The Battle and Advance sprites are SMALLER than the genesis sprites. The only explanation i can muster for how they managed to pack in so much personality into something that small is the usage of arcade demonic technology
>>527870868The most canon Silver has ever looked in this comic.
>>527870197DID SOMEONE SAY BESTIE
>>527870592IDWtard you're so focused on trying to justify shit writing you fail to realize that while Clutch is distracted with the ship, it would be the perfect time to focus on getting civilians out. To write a story like this, you should let the villain get what they want and and confirm their escalation before thinking about making sacrifices for the greater good. Not being the escalator of the situation. "She doesn't know what Clutch will do" so forget Clutch and focus on the people to get a gauge on what he'll do and Sonic should be the one to go deal with that. No matter which way you spin it, making Jewel be the one to activate the self destruct sequence for the sake making her look tough was just a dumb decision that harmed the writing of that entire scene. They should've let Clutch show his hand, not assume it and make a brash dumb decision that is on the level of what villains do.
>>527870524Edge for the sake of edge is cringe and usually a falseflag. Be normal instead of a maladjusted autist
>>527870845Anything sold for kids and being kinda cheap, you can guarantee is gonna look like chinese half made shit
>>527870859More than ok for them to distrust her, Lanolin should be humble and abstain from being the leader, and admit she’s dumb, low iq, i competent and cannot be tristed with power.
Not just “we all made some mistakes but i had some good reasons so I’m still your leader but i’ll #workonmyself”
Fucking quit, say you’re stupid, go serve soup in the kitchen and let anyone else be the leader.
Jewel was doing what was called a "Power Move" on Clutch. Yes, it could've killed everyone if things went awry, but it made Clutch look like a BITCH. That's all that's important. DOMINANCE.
>>527870957Oh I know, the sprites in Sonic Battle and Advance must be studied for how timeless and cinema they are in action. The fan animations utilizing them give them a lot of justice too.
>>527870957The kinship I feel with you at this very moment in time is completely and utterly indescribable. All I can say is hell yeah and hope that gets the point across. Hell fucking yeah.
>>527870405>Cool it with the Anti-IDW remarksBut it's Slashy
He unironically wanted IDW to apologise for Lanolin slapping Whisper, and was surprised there was no statement
Slashy is off the spectrum on his own little axis
>>527870992>They should've let Clutch show his hand, not assume it and make a brash dumb decision that is on the level of what villains do.This makes sense once you realize Jewel is going to be a twist villain, wake up sheeple. Wait a second, isn't Lanolin a sheeple... Oh no, she's five steps ahead of us already.
>>527871098The team disbands here and she already offered to let Tangle and Whisper kick her off the issue before this, she basically does do the "let anyone else be the leader" part.
>>527870992If Jewel can self-destruct the ship, surely Clutch could lock all the doors.
And no, I can't forget Clutch because his henchmen are still there and like I said, they tied heroes up easily
>>527871272Slashy out of absolutely nowhere? Rent free speedrun any%
>>527871272>SlashyI thought it was Krack
>>527871330Noodle located.
Consume.
>>527871330Made for threesomes with Sonic and Tails
>>527871334the team and the restoration are still together, they say it again and again they're not ending, they're going on separate journeys to do different bullshit. Aka Jewel and Lanolin are still leading the Restoration at home while Silver, Whisper and Tangle stalk Mimic.
She shouldn't offer, she should be humble and quit. She does not deserve and is not fit to be leader of anyone, and she should recognise this herself.
>>527871217There's so much to hate about IDW that describing why its shitty can be hard in a "where do i even start" sort of way, So i usually just ask this
"Has Sonic done anything badass in IDW"
Answer: No, he hasn't. IDW Sonic is already completely mogged by Manga sonic, to an unfair degree
>>527871584Optics whoring in big 2025
>>527871380People can dislike IDW, even hate what it's doing. But to post every day and then post the same thing on twitter and then post his bad twitter takes while hiding his own name every time is a purely Slashy branded choice.
And he's done this since IDW issue 1
It has been years
He could have unironically bankrolled a new fancomic to show everyone how he thinks a Sonic story would go, but he'd rather just complain about IDW instead every single day.
>>527871584This is problematic. manga sonic should be sitting in some vague nondescript park crying about his feelings.
>>527871584Total Goku moment.
>>527870868God I want to fug that bug.
>>527871639Those sure are words.
>>527871339>surely Clutch could lock all the doors.>Lock all the doors to a giant ship that was already manually overrided.There's retard and then there's whatever you have apparently.
>his henchmen are still there and like I said, they tied heroes up easilySonic wasn't tied up, the Rogues are still outside, Tangle and Whisper were already outside not being confronted by henchmen because they were dealing with Mimic. Surge and Kit no longer gave a fuck about anything. Amy's hammer could literally smash through the windows.
There's no excuse. If Jewel waited just a bit longer instead of brashly turning on the self destruct sequence for a cheap gotcha, everything would've been fine.
>>527871683Or pondering about what would happen if he didn't save that kid and the robber before they hit the ground, questioning his competency and dedication as a hero. And quotes a song lyric.
>>527871256Fucking mood, you two made me feel a lot better today
>>527870846>>527871512So much kino and potential gone
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>>527836472>"It's really not">Provides no counter-argument or justification.I woke up expecting better.
uuuuu manga action makes me scawwed.
This was a pretty fun thread. Thanks nerds.
>>527871584I didn't even read the manga yet, but I feel like I might enjoy this from seeing this panel
reminder Mimic and Whisper's climactic final battle is happening inside a cafe
Sonic getting roasted by Spider-Man
>>527871553Nah, she should stay on, have one arc where they rebuild trust and then another arc immediately after with team drama except this time Whisper is genuinely the wrong one, and then get slammed on the floor without fighting back because she's trying to be better and Twitter.com demanded #Justice4Whisper. Then we'll get three years of "Is Whisper abusive" discourse, it'll be so much fun.
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>>527871968Whisper needs mid battle snackies
>>527871852>Provides no counter-argument or justification.>The counter-argument and justification was point blank right in your faceCan't say that I'm surprised, but whatever...
>>527871984I read this as spit-roasted and only questioned it after wondering how he's going to spit-roast Sonic without another guy
>>527871771Also wait a minute. Even if this idea exists that Clutch could've just locked all the doors with the override, doesn't that imply Jewel had more options than driving the ship into the most extreme option. So once again, your fallacies are retarded
>>527871771>Lock all the doors to a giant shipidk why did you mention giant
>that was already manually overridedif you had no fail-safe option for self-destruction i can't see why wouldn't you have the same option for locking all the doors
>Sonic, RougesThey're not Jewel
Amy was locked and Jewel couldn't count on her
>>527871256>>527871828Erm, BASED?
The more I think about it the more I remember how obsessed with this spritework i was as a kid. The fact that Shadow has different kicking technique that would realistically do the same damage to the brain but is still distinct in how its a more "precise" looking strike is so fucking Kino
>>527871639Stop speaking like a child before you get raped
>>527872093Ok, so tell me what is the foundation of what you find admirable. And do it quick cause I gotta leave in half an hour cause I have a life (Unlike windfags)
>>527871956Give it a read PRONTO nigger. And then buy it when it goes on sale in your country
Its kino.
>>527862489In one year, everyone will be shitting on the manga. As is the way of all Sonic media.
>>527872092*munch munch* uuuu~ *munch* Tangle this action is too hardcore for me, Mimic's stealing the decorative plaques off the wall he's gone too far this time
>>527861497WITHOUT the TIMESTONES??
>>527872104>>527872120>i can't see why wouldn't you have the same option for locking all the doorsSo you're suggesting Jewel may have had more options to deal with Clutch and still decided to endanger everyone. Being able to lock all the doors isn't even an idea entertained by the comic. It's fanfic drivel you came up with to justify shit writing and somehow manages to make it even worse because the moment with Jewel hinges on the idea that she supposedly had no other choice. Do you fucking hear yourself?
>Amy was locked and Jewel couldn't count on herSonic shows up literal minutes later and frees everyone and beats Clutch up. She didn't need to activate a self destruct, she should have just assumed Clutch would go apeshit and instead go apeshit herself. You can't justify this scene working in any way that makes sense the way it is.
Daily reminder the whole Jewelgate shit only happens because Tangle never tells Lanolin that hey our boss is being forced against her will to do stuff by Clutch. They could have had someone up to guard against Clutch, and Lanolin would have been a lot less against the Phantom Rider because she'd be informed of what he's fighting against instead of just randomly being bombed with "Hey that's Sonic! Don't hit him" in the middle of a fight.
>>527872513>So you're suggesting Jewel may have had more options to deal with Clutchno i didn't
where
>Being able to lock all the doors isn't even an idea entertained by the comic.like yours about not caring about clutch taking control over the ship
>Sonic shows up literal minutes laterYeah, minutes later, you're crying over spilled milk
>she should have just assumed Clutch would go apeshitDo you hear yourself?
>>527872183See, I would, but I don't think it matters at this point even if I have to explain it again. I wish I can tell you how it is properly, but neither of us are going to budge anyway. After all, I too got my own problems to handle. Good luck to you.
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IDWfags will do anything in their power to justify shit writing to the point of coming up with idea that aren't presented by the comic itself than admit something was shoddily written in this lame ass comic
>>527872693>clutch taking control over the shipOver and over you miss the point. He SHOULD take control of the ship so we can see what his intentions are and the heroes will work against him to save everyone in the end. A narrative that works. Not assume that he'll do something horrible without seeing what it is and then doing something equally horrible themselves before he's done anything.
>Do you hear yourself?Yes. What are you unable to comprehend about letting the villain do villain things first before having the characters react?
It's a simple story flow structure.
>He's going to take over the ship>Use that as a way to bide time and help people>He intervenes like the terrible bastard he is and does something to prevent that (this is the part where he does the thing that you didn't know what he way going to do>HE does something that endangers the lives of everyone>Now you are justified in telling a story that races against the clock and has a character like Jewel have to weigh the consequence and sacrifices of the circumstanceThis is not that fucking hard to understand
>>527872424architect wisp
>>527873191Nta but even as someone who likes IDW Jewel's actions are utterly indefensible. The way they handled the tail end of the Clean Sweepstakes arc was retarded between this and Mimic getting outted by... his walkie talkie in one page. Shouldn't have spent so much screentime on Tails/Amy/Belle's shitty sideplot nobody gave a shit about, they screwed themselves over.
>>527839791Duofag can you post your recent Sally and Sonally slop here? Twitter image sucks it fucks with the resolution
>>527848223>Nintendo Believerssounds like they're delusional, japan of all places should know the slavish devotion their countrymen give to nintendo games and fucking pokemon especially, any system that will get gen 10 pokemon is a success
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