Balanced Toys Edition

Previously on Copeg : >>527780856

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063


Darktide:
Arbites Class Coming June 23
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/arbites-class-coming-june-23/108085
Introducing: The Cyber-Mastiff - Dev Blog
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-the-cyber-mastiff-dev-blog/108442
Behind The Arbitrators - BTS Dev Blog
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/behind-the-arbitrators-bts-dev-blog/108667
Dev Blog: The Voices of the Lex
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-the-voices-of-the-lex/108785
Extended Arbites Gameplay
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/extended-arbites-gameplay/108853
Arbites Talent tree
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825
June Update: Early Balance Look
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/june-update-early-balance-look/108795
Hotfix #68 (1.7.6) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-68-1-7-6-patch-notes/108282/1

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Firebreak - Jun 17th https://www.playfirebreak.com/
Wildgate - Jun 23 or something
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

>Imagine not being a power sword zealot.
Cringe

The Plasma was fine. Dueling Sword deserves to eat a nerf, that’s fair, but Plasma already balances itself with its constant, long ass reloading, needing pin point accuracy, managing overheating, and it’s charged shot eating up like a quarter of your ammo.

>>527943160
Eviscerator and crusher are all I need.
But I do want a fucking zealot rework like ogryn got one. Ogryn is fucking great now and has actual build variety.

Zealot on the other hand might have absolutely busted talents, but there is fuck all build variety in the skilltree because rest of the skills are so shit or in a straight up no-man's land so there is no point to ever pick the said talents. Like Enemy within, Enemy without is just straight up inferior in everyway when compared to Second Wind.

>>527944092
(((they))) said zealot rework was next on the list, expect one around september

>>527944021
>The Plasma was fine.
It wasn't
100 fucking cleave on non-charge shots is fucking stupid. Fatshark nerfing the non-charge shots is good, and it actually forces shitters and retards to engage the mechanics of the weapon, ie. over charging and needing to manually vent the gun so you don't blow up.

>>527942649 (OP)
I look like this and I cry like this.

>>527944092
Zealot just needs some skills buffed ups and the grenades being like ogryns so you can pick the one you want without being locked into a particular path, maybe buff the non crit keystones too. Rework loner completely as well, fucking retarded concept. Vets the one that needs some real work because that tree is a fucking mess.

>>527944021
>constant reloading
no? it has the bgigest magazine in the game. You only reloaded it "constantly" if you're some sort of autistic who isn't okay with leaving his 50 shot weapon at a half magazine
at the very least you can't call the weapon "fine" if it inexplicably does not use the charged shot mechanic and does everything the best on light shots

post yfw a second ogryn joins the strike team

>>527944579
only if it's a second rumbler ogryn

>>527944202
Should've been fucking now.
Only reason why fatshit is delaying the zealot rework is entirely because they are greedy fucks who want to squeeze every fucking penny from you with the arbites.
It's the reason why there are no actual new map or let alone weapon for any of the other classes or veteran.
They know by not adding them (despite all of that shit being 100% finished and made), they will force people into buying the arbites DLC if they want something to actually do this update.
And no, "restructuring the story" or them reworking the fucking terminal (not actually fixing it, it will still be RNG based) is not fucking content, it's just fucking around to give an illusion of they are doing something and "caring".

>>527944579
>bring build
>notice other Ogryn has same build
>swap to different
>other Ogryn also swaps, to a worse build
Fucking faggot.

I hope they also make the fully charged shots more explosive, give them a nice chunky aoe at the point of impact. I still think 10 cleave is too much for the light shots, light shots should just be there for an oh shit I need to stagger something quickly option like the flamers. But the charged shots need to fuck everything up

>>527944725
12 dollars. I'm spending 19 though. Seethe

>>527944281
I'm not sure why fartshart decided that the plasma gun should fire a stream of death that pierces through dozens of units, that seems more like the melta gun's schtick except with less range.
Most other 40k media depict plasma guns as firing a glowing blob instead.

>>527944579
Ogryns joining games makes me feel the same as seeing a smigger now, you know you’re in for a boring as fuck game with no excitement in because every enemy is going to spend all their time on the floor

>>527944725
Dude I can't wait for the zealot rework
>no new mechanics
>the issue of him having only one sensible way to path through the tree is unchanged
>gets +80% damage and +50% DR though and his keystones touched up to give him 80% stagger
WAOW!!! FINALLY THEY FIXED ZEALOT!!

>>527944816
I don't give a shit if it's 12$, this dogshit studio doesn't deserve it.
I wouldn't even buy that DLC if it costed only 5$, only thing I'd give is kneecap the whatever accountant fuck with a crowbar who came up with the idea.

I'm starting to think the zealot Force Sword is super strong. What do you guys run on it? I liked Heat Sink to keep it in TND mode longer but since it doesn't stack per kill I don't think it's that impactful

>>527945132
I'm buying 4 Arbites to make up for your lost purchase and that of 3 other anons.

"So, babe, you up for it? We grab a kebab, then head home and play Darktide. I got us both the deluxe edition of the Arbites DLC."

>>527945162
Rampage is always good on hordeclear weapons

>>527945162
It's amazing. I love it on my charge zealot

>>527920250
>As if they were shitposting like 15 years back about MMOs and WoW killers. I genuinely don't get it. I think live service games have just absorbed the MMOtards and now they have these kind of "I need to dedicate my life to this one game" shit flinging contests now.
People treat like GaaS like they used to MMOs because they are all trying to take as much attention for themselves all the time. It's similar to gacha where people eventually drop every live service game except for a couple because they want to keep you in their clutches and forcefeed you cosmetics and microtransactions for as long as possible
>It's literally no different from Helldivers 2 at launch. Literally the exact same gearing structure. In fact the only difference is that the firebreak "premium" warbond has no gameplay affecting kit in it.
I don't actually understand if you've played Firebreak or not, but just to clarify. The progression ends up feeling nothing like Helldivers 2, like at all, neither in gameplay options or in progression. Firebreak desperately tried to copy Helldivers' model, but Helldivers first free warbond is huge, includes tons of cool armor, tons of weapons and other options, and there is also progression outside of that through levelling and collecting samples that feels meaningful because they are big upgrades. HOWEVER, the shit you get at the start of Helldivers 2 is useful, and what you see is what you get.
Firebreak has a pathetic variety of weaponry including in the BP, a pathetic variety of cosmetics, a pathetic variety of build options and the weapons you start with or unlock are also shitty versions of what you can get. This makes the initial 3+ hours of the experience really frustrating.

This is also made worse by the mission selection in Firebreak essentially being 5 different 20 minute missions, with a forced requirement to play only a bit of the level before you're allowed to repeat but with the next part added which creates a bad first experience.

>>527945607
I'd argue that perfectionism + cruel fortune are better than lingering influence, but you need 2 points instead of one

>>527945607
what kind of actual braindead monkey made this?
>-30% toughness generated with the benefit of reducing your damage isn't a bad trap talent
okay!

>>527945607
>puppet master being better than +30% quell speed
What retard made this chart?

>>527945162
>I'm starting to think the zealot Force Sword is super strong.
about half a year late to the party, it needs a small bit of tweaks downward to be honest

>mfw I've been a Clawchad Vet since the class update and now my weaponfu is getting buffed
We eatin good

>>527944579

This is my build
I wuv it, its good.

>>527945607
>Empiric Resolve on Neutral
>Warp Expenditure on Good
What retard made this?

>>527946157
I've always been a Claw user.
I've always been a Helbore user.
I've always been an Eviscerator user.
I've always been a Heavy sword user.
I've always been a Crusher user.
I've always been an Infantry Lasgun user.
I've always been a Shotgun user.

Fuck your meta, fuck your tier list. I only use my roleplay builds.

>>527946359
As long as you're having fun, buddy. Don't bring that shit in havoc.

>>527946785
NGL, gonna swap to knifes when I FINALLY finish with the stun grenade penances

>>527947086
That's nice sweetheart, have a cookie!

bros.. what are the chances of killling floor 3 not being complete ass?

>>527947392
You think 3 months is enough to fix this broken piece of shit?

>>527945283
White people don’t say that. Except for the Arbites part

Queue for mortis trials, get 3 bots. Rejects, are we doomed?

>>527947657
They do in Europe.

>>527945079
They will 100% do this because it worked with Ogryn

>>527948023
>ogryn has only 1 sensible way through the tree that blocks blitz/aura/ability choices
Doomers out.

>>527948023
retard

>>527948490
>>527948881
ogryn had no variety and he still doesnt

Please fight eachothers for my entertainment.

What Perks should I be getting in Firebreak?
Really enjoying it, even though it's bare-bones. I really do wish it was cheaper though.

>>527949325
All his keystones are good, Indomitable and Taunt are good, at least 4 of his firearms are viable in high Havoc (more than any other class LOL) and every one of his melees is great, and all his keystones are great. Obviously he has nuke tier meta picks but they are overkill and he doesn't have an arsenal full of glaringly obvious throw picks like the other classes do.

I uninstalled Helldivers 2
It's too easy

>>527950124
HD2 is my turn brain off and chill game after I've had enough of playing taxing games. It's fine by me even if I'm bitter that D10 feels like baby mode.

>>527950124
Didn't they just add leviathans?

>>527950124
Good on you anon, most people will just autistically screech at the devs to make it harder and harder until all the casuals leave and the game dies.

>>527949947
Ask me in a year when I can download the game for free and it has more than 5 missions (if they don't abandon it first).

i look good bwos

>>527946359
Hope you die irl

>>527947392
Killing Floor 2 wasn't even good so 0

>>527950657
looks kinda bad

>>527950657
Lol... You do realize the arbeetus is coming in 5 days, right?

With a new class potentially adding over 300+ penance points in darktide, do you think they will add more penance track rewards with the upcoming update?

>>527950657
not really no desu

>>527950947
haha no

>>527950395
leviathans are stupidly designed to me, but not for the reasons /hdg/ melts about.
they just kind of exist and arbitrarily decide they're going to oneshot you, at pretty inconsistent ranges.
HOWEVER they're also really, really easy to kill if you actually your stratagems and it's satisfying to see them die. Point of fact, every /hdg/ lobby I joined someone always was willing to team up with a recoilless rifle to gun down any that started drifting too close. I legit think that half of /hdg/ doesn't even play the game and is just there to shitpost because the complaints about them being too tanky are absurd.
Where I differ with /hdg/ is that I would actually prefer them to be actual rape machines that turn from passive scenery into hunter killers once they've spotted a player, maybe with the new searchlight mechanic they just added for them. Right now they just... EXIST.

>>527950487
Well I uninstalled because most people autistically screeched at the devs to make the maximum difficulty piss easy, and now there's nowhere left for me to go. So take that however you want.

>>527951685
I'm a permanent cuckchair user on bots but I don't even bother bringing it to squids because what's the fucking point? You take down a leviathan and then it instantly respawns. It's just a waste of time shooting them at all.

>>527951685
They just respawn immediately, what's the use in killing them? lol

>>527950657
What helmet is this? It looks cool. The rest of the outfit is kind of drab though no offense

>>527951825
>>527952565
They have a respawn timer. There are infinite respawns but there's a limited number of them that can spawn at once and they trickle into the map one at a time. Furthermore they spawn at the edge of the map, they're really slow, and their flight paths are completely random (they can actually spawn, immediately turn, go out of bounds and despawn again). Killing one is effectively the same as killing any other patrol.
There's absolutely a point to killing them if they're headed your way or the "fans" of the game wouldn't be melting about being instagibbed by them literally 24/7. The reason they're killing anyone at all is because the same person has this cognitive dissonance of "what's the point i'll ignore it lol" and "WOW DUDE I JUST GOT INSTANTLY KILLED UHUHUHU NOTHING I COULD DO DUDE"

And I mean it's fucking easy, man. You ignore the ones that look like they're going to slowly meander away, and BTFO of any that look like they're going to be a problem. Like I said it's unironically just boring and easy. And I feel a massive disconnect of playing this absurdly easy game where the enemies are so insultingly pathetic, then going onto a general and seeing people saying it's too hard and they need to be nerfed into the dirt even further. Clearly the game isn't meant for me anymore.

>>527952921
>pop down cuck chair
>empty half the mag
>turn around
>2 more leviathans just spawned behind me
Yeah real cool design. No one who actually plays the game likes them. They're just the worst designed enemy in the game.

all this yap for the retarded view of someone that doesnt play the game. shut up sperg

>>527952921
You didn't play the game.

>>527945607
I feel like Perfectionism on Disrupt Destiny is never worth it. The 4 second decay per stack is difficult enough as is to keep 15 stacks, let alone 10 stacks. You also have to fight your teammates to kill marked enemies because last-hit mechanics are the pinnacle of game design.

>>527945079
>nerf zealot crit spam
>make beacon of purity give you corruption immunity in coherency
>make hammer of faith apply fire stacks on melee
>make unremitting a stamina multiplier like faiths fortitude instead of sprint cost it doubles stamina

They could do anything to the middle tree to make it worth going through. There's also the extremely worthless grenades vs knives which could be easily fixed by making immolation grenades regen through flame crit kills or some other fire synergy.

Stunstorm grenades should work on impact like the new Arbites nades but also give a crit multiplier debuff instead of just negating all the Zealots abilities like a handheld perfect strike debuff. Making you still proc your talents with it instead of being smite-lite.
I guess Arbites mines will fill that niche making Stunstorm even worse but I think if they were a debuffing nade instead of a crowd control nade they would fit the Zealot better.

Bullying slavs is my new hobby

>>527951685
The biggest issue with Leviathans is having them spawn on the evacuate assets mission. They can and will target the generators, so you will need at least two people to bring shield generators.

is the new faggot out yet, i stopped playing this game cause the classes are fucking boring

>>527954758
It always amuses me when third worlders insult you in their language knowing you can't understand them. Coward behavior.

>>527955149
Are you retarded?

>>527955314
Shut up you fucking nigger and answer me like a good bitch

>>527955149
>is the new faggot out yet
Seems like you just arrived LOL

Arbites arrives on the 23rd. Not that a turd-worlder like you can afford it

>>527953424
m8 I didn't say they were well designed, I said they're easy to deal with
Orbital Gatling kills them immediately
Eagle Strafing Run kills them immediately
Two guys who agree to do the assisted reload on a SPEAR or RR effectively nullifies their entire existence
And in your scenario if leviathans are spawning directly behind you, then you're most likely on Extract, and since Arrowhead still hasn't fixed spawns being broken for extracts on the map border, the leviathans are the only enemies appearing. Blame your teammates for making you the only person who bothers to deal with them.
I'm specifically not even complaining about their dogshit design, I'm complaining about the community being utterly unable to cope with this lazy, retarded flying fish that anyone with a jump pack and a red stratagem can hunt for sport.

But all this is null because you'll notice none of the complaints about them are to make them more engaging enemies. Literally nobody wants them to be menacing battlefield prowlers or whatever. Every single complaint wants them to just have their health gutted so they're yet another non-entity that dies in a single RR shot and disappears forever. Nobody wants to play a fucking co-op game, everyone wants to play a game that makes me personally fall asleep at my keyboard.
>>527953821
I DON'T play the game anymore, so I'll spare you my presence any further. byeee

>>527954976
They got patched to stop targeting the generators in less than a week

>>527955631
>Orbital Gatling kills them immediately
>Eagle Strafing Run kills them immediately
>Two guys who agree to do the assisted reload on a SPEAR or RR effectively nullifies their entire existence
This isn't a viable playstyle on open maps. It just shows that you didn't play the game.

>>527955596
>>527955396
You could've just replied to me and accepted you're a fart huffing little fucking dweeb nigger.

>>527955784
They broke that patch when they added the spotlights. They can now target generators again. This is what happens when you outsource development to an indian company and fire all your playtesters.

>>527944775
They should make it turn red as it heats up as a visual aid and it would look cooler.

>>527955826
...what, are you serious? The only reason they're annoying to deal with normally is specifically because city maps will cause the super destroyer to reposition or your eagle to fly in at a retarded useless angle whenever you think you have a good shot lined up. Open maps with servo assisted is like a fucking dream if you're going for total spacewhale death.
But I mean, clearly you're some kind of autist because I'm contradicting your personal experience, and you seem utterly unable to distinguish facts and opinions.
OOPS replied to the bait again
Believe what you want

>>527955596
Bravo for spoonfeeding the mongol, I respect him more than you just for that.

>>527956216
Sure, whatever. You don't play the game anyway so why are you pretending you have any fucking idea what you're talking about? Anyone who plays the game knows you're a complete retard and completely wrong.

Why is everyone so mean?

id really, really kill for a little 4 - 5 man pseudo mmo co op game

like a more customizable gran blue relink sorta game or something, my experience playing with you guys has been pretty positive for the most part, but we kinda "fiend" a game for awhile then fuck off

id play darktide more but after like 700 some odd hours idk, magics not there for me anymore

>>527957727
Flanderization of 4chan. 15 years old edgy men saw on the internet that 4chan was a magical place where everybody was mean to eachother so they double on it and can only express themselves using "faggot", "nigger" or "retard" outside of /b/ thinking they're fitting in.

>>527957727
Just some uppity slavgroid retard practising the highest form of comedy that his race of albino niggers can muster

>>527958506
Try Hellgate: London, it's exactly what you want.

:,(

>>527955831
Open up. I got another spoon for you!
*shoves my fat, juicy cock down your mouth and instantly blasts a load of piping hot cum down your throat*

>>527945162
it's alright
low mobility kills it's synergy with backstab part of zealot tree so it's not op unlike DS4

>>527945607
>node is known to not work at all
>"good"

NDA ENDS TOMORROW
I REPEAT. NDA ENDS TOMORROW

SOON ALL WILL BE REVEALED

>>527957727
PvP is in man's DNA. If he cannot find it he will create it.

>>527960381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEFnXahegG4

We know !

Hope you're all ready to see I was completely right about the top rack shells being executioner rounds that fly around like assail and headshot and stun a bunch of dudes.
I came in a dream so it's true.

Heh... hehehe...hehe...
Oh? I'm just laughing at the people who wasted their time using the crusher on the zealot when the arbites was on its way

>>527962508
Stop resisting
*hits you with two handed murder stick*

>>527942649 (OP)
Reminder that the leaked Plasma and DS changes are not going through as written. Those patch notes were UNINTENTIONALLY leaked, despite being fully written down and seemingly ready for release, which likely means that they initially thought of releasing those changes on the 23rd and yet went back on the idea because they were uncertain of it, and seemingly have every intention of messing with these weapons more before the full release.
And furthermore, now that the community has seen these changes in paper, a loud number people and chinese aren't happy. So, the changes that they will come up with will end up much more minor than shown, most likely.

>>527957727
thirdie rage. many such cases.

Everyone who actually uses the meta weapons and talents nonstop can't beat a basic damnation pub with them let alone make it above the bottom of the scoreboard.
Everyone who demands constant nerfs only plays in premades where everyone agrees with them and only uses off meta weapons and builds.
Why does the latter group moralize and act like smug shitbag redditors when they are an insulated 0.1% of the playerbase?

>>527963250
I shan't be reviving plasma veterans if the changes don't go through.
I shantn't.
Charge your fucking gun, faggots.

>>527963250
>because they were uncertain of it
more like veteran becomes unviable if they go through with it before veteran rework

>>527964569
If you say so Chang.

>>527964569
>the only things that make vet good are dueling sword and plasma gun
Unironically the kind of opinion you'd find in malice or heresy.

>>527964569
True. I hope that if they do nerf the plasma gun they at least give Vet some band-aid changes before the inevitable rework.

>>527964830
True, it's also VoC and ammo regen.
So outside the plasma gun you're just a healslut and not good for any real reason other than 1 button and 1 passive. Incredible depth here.
Outside these things there is nothing that the other classes can't do better.

>>527957727
this place would have been better off had it migrated during the great blackout

>>527964830
It's not the only thing. Also shout
Without plasma it becomes a dedicated shout drone with ammo regen aura

>oh no...my delete everything gun...it has to be charged instead of spammed now?
>my class is DEAD, all I have left is shitting out gold toughness and ammo...
>fatshark better give me a meltagun and a stubber and an autocannon as reparations
real veteran hours

>>527965762
Veteran is currently the second weakest class without the nerfs

Let that sink in

>>527965762
It's gonna be fine if they rework the tree, which they are going to do anyway

Psyker does more damage than Veteran does with any of their shared firearms, let that sink in.

>>527966360
and when you have this in mind, it reminds you why the Plasma Gun is not shared with any classes
because Psyker and Zealot would be better with the plasma gun than the Veteran would

That sink? Let it in.

>>527966621
Last time he leaked all over the carpet. He's an outdoor sink now.

>>527957727
It is her command.

>>527965762
I know this is bait but
>full charge consumes thrice the ammo, firing mid charge is really inconsistent and will still consume at least twice the ammo since the inputs are really tight
>charge still can't penetrate a single crusher
>primary fire will be functionally useless as it won't even one shot crit headshot the most basic havoc specials let alone elites without the worst keystone
>you still have to deal with massive heat generation on top of this, on top of a much slower fire rate and more constant venting
Why bother with plasma then? Vets will just switch over to revolver since it'll have the same effective ammo economy, and the constant reloading pretty much takes the same time venting does when you spam plasma, but you don't have to deal with heat and it's much easier to aim.
Now retards will start complaining about revolver being OP since it can one shot stuff!! And it has a whopping five shots in the magazine!!!

>>527966151
>>527966360
>>527966621
W-w-what does he want…?

>>527966878
plasma gun nerfs. DO NOT let him in.

This is the official /coopg/ stance:
Veteran bad, Plasma nerf bad.
If Veteran become good, Plasma nerf good.
I'm glad we're all in agreement.

Actually? It's underhyped. it's gonna die FAST.

>>527969132
Good
They will all flock to darktide

>>527969132
Obsessed tard

Has the live service virus killed co op games?
KF3 seems to full of GaaS shit

>>527969132
All indians and chinese by the way

>>527969453
Dude it's actually way underhyped and will die really fast. I am incredibly intelligent

Feeling too energetic tonight, might play some mortis to put me to sleep

The amount of tardwrangler voicelines the fourth member has if there's three ogryns.

>>527969756
>>527969453

>nerf Vet
>release overpowered Not Vet before they nerf the Vet

Yeah, I'm not too bothered, desu. I'll let the Vet players do the heavy lifting for me by review bombing the game, refusing to buy cosmetics, and complaining nonstop on every single outlet there is. Fatshark will get the picture in a month or two. I win by doing nothing.

>>527971224
Me? I’ll be enjoying the Zealot Vet and Psychic Vet like I usually do

>>527971757
You'll be enjoying the dog vet arbites vet soon enough

>>527971224
>A class with blitzes like not stunstorm mine and not ogryn grenade, abilities loke not bull rush and not chorus, and weapons like not slab shield and not crusher, is somehow a not vet

Zealot + ogryn + dog = arbites

>>527944579
>post yfw a second ogryn joins the strike team

>>527944579
>Sir, a second ogryn has joined the strike team.

any chances payday 3 gets unfucked?

>put together the funny ogryn rumbler build
>play regular damnation
>as inoffensive as possible, have done literally nothing that anyone could be upset about
>zealot and veteran both rushing ahead to vacuum every single ammo pickup, including ones I am making my way over to, like they are actively trying to deny me ammo
lol

>>527977392
>>have done literally nothing that anyone could be upset about
>>put together the funny ogryn rumbler build

How would you *increase* Darktide's power creep?
>new shroudfield modifier that gives you a lesser version of it when you dodge right after blocking
>a free second shroudfield activates after the first one ends
>FotF gets until death's effect while its buff is active
>add in the cut zealot ability that charges up your weapon for a single big strike, it can one shot everything in melee range short of a boss which still gets staggered
>executioner's stance now refunds any ammo used for the duration and gives you temporary stealth on activation
>survivalist aura has no cooldown again and has a chance to generate grenade pickups and stimms instead of ammo
>weapons specialist's melee attack speed buff spreads to your team
>new psyker nodes that give you up to +30% crit chance and +10% attack speed the higher your peril
>everyone gets cooldown reduction by hitting things in melee, on top of any CDR talents you take
>everyone gets to generate gold toughness just by hitting things in melee
>everyone has martyr's purpose and it now works on toughness damage taken
>all toughness damage reduction is now global damage reduction
>relic blade blocks attacks while holding a heavy attack
>shield can block flamers
>rumbler shoots frag bombs
>voidstrike can one shot crit headshot crushers
>duelling sword's special replaced with an infinite ammo laspistol
>curios now have blessings of their own, examples include sharing your stimm buff with the nearest teammate and increasing grenade explosion radius
>if you think you didn't have enough CDR, every weapon has a new CDR on crit blessing

>>527950665
ngl, I don't know why I get this every time.

>>527977717
>why yes, darktide IS only populated by petty, passive aggressive tryhards, even in regular damnation
dead game lol

Which Ogryn voice is closest to a Warhammer fantasy ogre?
I think bully...

>>527978150
No man they just do that to Ogryns. No matter what gun you brought, runts will always do that shit. You just grab the big bag of ammo when you get the chance and do what you can. Little cunts act like Ogryns never need ammo just because you're better than them at melee.

>>527979271
They just try to do their weeklies and you take all the ammo from them

>>527979271
I will constantly mark it for Ogryns when playing zealot.
Quite often they're running bomb gauntlet or minigun, so ammo is an issue

>>527979016
It’s Bully. Ogres are entirely selfish pricks who would eat even if they were technically on your side but you let your guard down. I get the same vibes from him.

Can we get a map difficulty tierlist?

>>527977392
Faggots
The rumbler build isn't even an issue in damnation because you can easily kill most enemies before the rumbler gets them

>>527977835
Funny thing is a lot of these are in VT2 and they're not even broken.

>>527977392
Rumbler in damnation, I tried it when I was new and thought that the gun was trash lol. Turns out it was just MASSIVELY overkill, to the point where it seemed bad.

>>527980603
Yep. It's good when there are 20 enemies in the explosion radius

>>527977835
Prestige point where you get one (1) extra skill point per prestige.

>>527981421
I had a similar idea
Major achievements give 1 skill point
>1 million kills
+1 for all classes
>complete all penises for a class
+1 for said class

>>527981963
would be fun but meta niggers run these games, they'll never allow it

>>527945607
you have these for the other classes too?

>dlc doesnt drop tomorrow
>drops monday
why are they so lazy? OMG WE DONT WORK THE WEEKEND
WE CAN JUST HOTFIX SHIT DURING THE WEEKENED
WE ARE EUROPEEAN WE DONT LIKE WORK

>>527985040
By these you mean bad advice?

>>527985445
feel free to make them with good advice

>>527985237
Anon..... they are releasing it on monday so they have more time to roll out a patch to fix the class when it turns out to be broken in some way

>>527985237
You can spend the weekend watching hours of youtubers playing the class before you just be patient.

>>527985624
Making a giant list with no regards to what weapons you're using is also retarded

So, when's the NDA ending.

im going to watch streamers play borderlands 4
the actual best coop game of the year

>>527986240
10:20 hours

>>527986240
7pm gmt, apparently

what about firebreak, bros

>>527986940
It's over

>>527965762
>>527966746
>everyone forgets veteran gets bolter

>>527986940
gone, reduced to atoms
zoomie decided it was concord 2.0, and apparently you can just start saying "concord fomo woke slop" and people will just dogpile that despite literally none of it being true

>>527986323
>borderlands 4
>the actual best coop game of the year
It's just a shame that playing it on release is usually a mistake with borderlands.
>game is likely to have some notable bugs and performance issues that won't get ironed out for a while
>$70 price tag with a $40 DLC pass or some shit that doesn't even include all of the DLC
>your favorite class will get nerfed into the fucking ground when redditors discover that it kills one specific boss half a second faster than everyone else
>necessary buffs to balance things back out won't happen for another year
>no mod to skip the cringe dialogue and speedhack cutscenes until much later down the line, never mind the ToS implying that you can get banned for it, so I'd rather pirate it even if I don't personally care about the price tag
Every borderlands game has unironically been MASSIVELY better around 2 years after its release, purchasable at a significant discount, and with DLC available at 1/3 of the price if you buy from credit card fraud sites like G2A.

Really fun games to play casually with friends, but nothing I'd actually get invested in on release, sadly.

>>527987401
It's been funny watching the tortanic generation act jaded about concord becoming tortanic 2.

>>527987401
That's a concord fomo woke slop opinion

>>527977835
>>shield can block flamers
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it.
But the biggest issue with flamers I have is the fact that, even on ogryn the fucking stagger and push force the flame is retarded. Like ogryn should be able to just walk through the flame and smash the flamer's teeth in. But nah, it's like a monstrosity punching you.
>>527981421
This would be cool, but it'd be genuinely too over powered.
At best I could see them giving 3 extra skill points as prestige. But I have no idea how they'd even balance that, so probably for the better if they don't add this.

>>527987556
I mean true fans wait for all the dlcs to release first
A lot of people waited for BL3 to hit steam like 1 year after release
Randy fucked up big time

>>527987689
some of us figured out that tortanic behavior was retarded, seeing it repeat itself is like watching a certain western country eyeball reasons to go to a certain desert locale

>>527987921
>I mean true fans wait for all the dlcs to release first
>A lot of people waited for BL3 to hit steam like 1 year after release
Yep, 100% same.
The only reason I played it on release was because I had a friend working at gearbox (not borderlands, some smaller side project) who got a handful of keys to hand out, so we played through the game together. Very nice dude.

>>527988073
I mean if you have friends, even without free keys, it's a no brainer

(You) have been invited to play poxclick.
>ESC, Social, [E] Find Player
>friend code: 6238355228
EU or US-East

Will be afk for 10 mins for cig and coffee. Will likely wait until the post is ~20 minutes old or until I get at least 1 player. Don't care if you're new or bad, just get in.
I have no obligations for the rest of this and next week, so I might organize more of these IF YOU FUCKERS WOULD ACTUALLY PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME you love complaining about so much.

>>527988448
I will not play with /vg/oids. Such practices incentivize, God forbid, discordification.
The only way I'll ever play with a /vg/ger is by chance, meaning I wouldn't even know, and that's a good thing.

>>527988448
why was my request denied?

>>527988448
2/4, waiting another 10 minutes in case someone wants to join

>>527988816
based

>>527988851
I didn't manually deny anything, and it's unlikely you're on my block list unless you're some slavrune griefer

>>527986940
didn't hold up and that's a shame, it genuinely looked fun to play from all the gameplay trailers

>>527988448
Can't. Gonna sleep so i can wake up to the NDA being gone

>>527989123
ah crap too late

>>527987401
Is there a single example of that happening?

Electro staff is so good

>>527990115
We just finished a mission, try to join again in a minute.

>war stars
Does nothing
>his forses and the loyalist mobians are in over there head
Does nothing
>war grinds to a stand still
Does nothing
>Right hand man is losing control of the situation
Does nothing
>is now actively losing the war
Does nothing
Wtf if his problem?

>>527990115
>>527991367
Sorry, try again, I came back just as it expired (why do requests expire??)

>>527991504
>just had a meeting with Wolfer, tremendous guy really but a he's a bit heretical just a bit. We may deploy stormtroopers we may not I haven't decided yet, we really want to stop this rebellion started by sleepy Margrave. Look folks all I say is that we can make a great deal, Atoma is full of potential strong steel the best steel they told me and I believe them.

>>527991607
starting the game

>>527990290
there’s not he’s just mad because he wasted money and really wanted it to be good (it’s not)

>>527991504
board game states that he is stuck on planet or something

>>527991504
he doesn't even exist

>>527991051
no it's shit

>>527991504
I know you put these typos in as bait. Not falling for it.

>>527993671
No anon that's just rakesh go easy on him hes a little slow

>>527986940
firebreak?
more like firebad XD

I wanted it to be good, but it's just not. At least it's not woke. idk why some people suggest that it is.

I will never pet the dog. Not even for a penance.

it is the forty first millenium

>>527966746
start complaining again you mean
>>527987382
draw time is shit, reload is also shit, and the damn thing wiggles around without exec stance. Fuck sway in any video game stupid fucking mechanic

>>527993481
I will continue to "what the fuck is happening" in lobbies thanks to people thinking that

>>527996658
>draw time is shit
Yeah, and it's shit on the fucking plasmagun too.
Also every veteran build runs the +25% swap speed anyway, so it is not a problem.
Bolter is just as good as the plasmagun but for different reasons.

how to get curios?

>>527997031
>Yeah, and it's shit on the fucking plasmagun too.
??

>>527997386
Buy them, and there's a curio effect that is "add x% chance to get a curio instead of a weapon at the end of a mission".
So... buy them. Check out milk's shop too.

>>527987556
I picked 3 up a couple years after it came out and had a great time with some friends, the only thing that brought the game down was the writing and pacing, too many stretches of not shooting things while listening to cringe was not fun. But the series has come a long way gameplay and skill tree wise.

Free Update - Battle For Tertium
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium/109089

>>527996658
Just run the swap speed and reload buffs at the top right
>hip fire sway
I play on controller and can beam a chaos spawns head, just wait for it to close, shout for damage buffs and delete it. Default reticle makes the accuracy look a lot worse than it is, the recoil maxes out after about 5 shots.

>sedition removed, uprising adjusted
>auric is now tier 5 difficulty
>mortis trials gets auric tier/made harder
nice, also revolver is still fucking sexoooooooooooooooooo been a while since I used it

>>527952617
>>527951139
>>527950941
>>527950902
I got that shit on
you dummies wouldnt understand real style

>>527998404
N...NO! I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK! DON'T MAKE ME GO BACK!

>>527998404
>not the arbys weapon overview
>t-7 hours before NDA is lifted
What the fug are they doing.

>>527998423
the hipfire has a bit of auto aim built in even without a controller but I want something that I can point at a specific enemies head and delete them, the sway can be dealt with but it fucking annoys me so badly

that's it... we're never getting exterminatus difficulty...

>>527998657
>we are adding auric difficulty, fucking finally.

>>527998657
Shipmistress Braahp...finally...

>>527998404
>they’re going to drop the weapon blog AFTER the NDA is over and we have seen them in action and heard if they’re shit or not
What the actual fuck

>>527998685
>>527998959
please stop samefagging it's getting annoying

>>527998749
That's my fear as well.
>aurics remain piss easy
>havoc is blown retard mode where the entire difficulty can be summarized as: "Unfair".
Thanks, Sweden.

>>527999041
Swing and a miss, honey.

>>527998687
Fair enough, I only use the hip fire for bosses/elite packs and to quickly double body shot close specials. I do wish the ads visual recoil was tightened up, much better than it used to be but still acts strangely, but I just limit how fast O shoot when ads to help with that.

>>527998959
Honestly not a surprising.
This is the same studio who regularly starts an event and then has days if not week later posts the fucking trailer for the event that is currently happening.
Like the infected moebian 21st, the event had gone on for like a week and THEN fatshark posts the trailer for it.

4 more sleeps

>>527999041
Please stop posting it’s getting annoying

4 more sleeps

>>527999248
NOOOOO

>>527999383
Top right would have looked cool if it actually had a helmet

>>527999248
hope you guys are ready to pay for the arbites tax + arbites premium tax + arbites commodore tax + dog tax

>>527999248
I have a feeling the slop cosmetics for the rest of the classes will be arbites inspired.

>>527999494
Whatever it is, it’ll probably be something cool because they always hold the good stuff hostage until an update.

>>527999383
>the basic bitch arbites helmet but with visor up is premium slop
>the actual character bundle doesn't even include a helmet, it's just a pants and coat
>"mysteriously" 3 head options sold separately
>the shotgun is just the regular skin for the new shotgun but with a nonsensical wire going to the ammo rack for some reason
>still looks lamer than the winged eagle
T-thanks, Sven

>>527998657
I've never played it are the rewards worth it?

so? will update save darktide?

>>527999931
you get a keychain

>>527999937
No, at best it brings bunch of people back, and the player numbers on steam will bump back up to like 20-30k, 40k at most. But it will all be temporary and eventually people will stop leaving again because there is no content in the game besides the arbites class, which isn't much.

>>528000106
When will you learn english?

>>527998404
literally the only thing of note is the weapon rebalances

>>528000106
A new class and weapons are the best sort of content you can add in games like this, or is a shame we aren’t getting a new map to go with it though. I’d love a map on the prison ship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnwSPPVg0DM


ChocoB, 6 hours. Probably the best video since he's japanese and doesn't speak english at all so it will be silent.

>>527999383
>lifting your helmet up?
>900 funbucks

How insane is the arbites shotgun skill tree going to need to be to actually make shotguns worth using for the actual shotgun and not just as a shit flame thrower spreading bleed stacks? The ones they showed off in the teaser looked like filler shit. It needs some sort of “applies a fucking bunch of brittleness per pellet that hits the same target” and “multikills refund ammo” in my opinion.

>>527999383
>>528000436
>lifting your helmet up?
>*HAWK-PATOOEY* in your mouth
he should have kept it shut

>>527998749
What would that even look like

>>528000435
He's shit at the game though, can't wait for more malice footage!
It's gonna be either that or him spectating other testers.
If he's not downed/dead for 90% of the video then arbites really is broken op p2w shit

>>528000106
>40k at most
Bravo Raj. I get it.

>>528000780
>ChocoB
>Shit at the game
You shitlings will never learn what respect is.

There is no worse feeling than the sound of other people having sex without you.

>>528000780
Nothing is going to top how overpowered ogryn is, even I can shit on havoks with it.

>>528000868
I just know if I open his stream it's gonna be his 7 wounds shroudfield zealot permanently in a downed state while his buddies try to carry him through havoc

>Arbites reveal
>they sweep empty corridors at difficulty 0.5

>>528001350
>arbites skill tree reveal!
>gain 1% move speed when hitting an enemy with a shotgun

>>528000947
Not a fan of porn, then? Or do you just watch it muted?

>>528000729
assraping amount of enemies to the point xpoors and sonyggers aren't allowed to queue and also enemies are immune to dots

Imagine being fan of porn.

>>528001617
that doesn’t sound very fun…

>>528001471
It’s different in real life

>>528000868
I cannot respect a man who, after at least a thousand hours, still hasn't bound dodge and jump to different keys or otherwise made sure not to dodge jump.

>>528001438
>>gain 1% move speed when hitting an enemy with a shotgun
>it triggers per enemy hit
>it stacks
>cleave through an entire horde for +20% move speed
Would actually be a good talent.

>>528002000
>chocob
>a thousand hours
keeek

>>528002768
I don't care if it's just 100 hours.
I dodge jumpers do not deserve respect.

>>528002847
>I dodge jump

>>528002970
So you agree.

>>528002542
Would be fine if it leads to better skills, won’t say no to move speed but not the sort of skill you’re looking to actively pick up

>he didn't get the joke
based retard

7 hours to info
4 sleeps to videogame

>>528000947
Should have joined us at the lobby

>>528003989
Speaking of lobby
We were talking about dumping collateral on recon las, and whether mobility really does affect spread
>It does.
I knew I wasn't talking out of my ass.

>>528002000
>still hasn't bound dodge and jump to different keys
this is me. I regret it everytime but I still won't change it.

>>528004454
Interestang so collat dump (I still don't like deadshot)

>>528004454
What does collateral do on the recon again? It doesn’t have an cleave right?

>>528004518
Same, feels like copping out now. If I jump it’s because I spammed the button and I shouldn’t do that.

>>528005831
>What does collateral do
"Stagger, Impact and Suppression"
Blue and brown have cleave, green doesn't.
You should be killing things with headshots before they have a chance to duck anyway, so suppression isn't important on them. Not that mobility is particularly important either, but I definitely feel a difference with the moving crosshair bloom. XII has atrocious hip fire accuracy, VIc extremely good, both benefit from high mobility.

Does blocking count as being hit?

>>527977189
did they finally turn the servers on?
I remember they forgot to pay their aws bill for 86% of the launch month so I just didn't give a shit

STOMPING the RUNTS

>>528008910
>neat it's 10 euros on instant gaming
>sees this

>>528008638
yes

I hope the arbites shit on all of the ogryn personalities relentlessly just to upset redditors

>>528009559
Jesus Christ...

4 HOURS UNTIL REVEAL

fucking russian nigger
dumb slavnig could have just ignored the daemonhost but charges right at it and quits before getting killed by it so it could shift attention to someone else you fucking subhumanoid?

>>527990290
FBC Firebreak, XDefiant, Marathon, Splitgate, Arc Raiders

>>527991817
I refunded.

>>528009572
It's okay, lex-mate, we still like you.

>>528010701
>snow nigger is niggering
water is wet

E

>>528011354
Groomed by Tranner, he ended up fucking him in the ass. Man this dude isl iving the life.

>>528011471
someone post the wojack fucking the fat girl and looking sad at the mirror

>saw drooling sword and plasma gun nerf bitching
>enjoy both weapons on veteran, but hey, I have a boltgun build right here, let's give that a spin
>surgical + deadshot crit fishing
>pinning fire for easier one-taps, max collateral
>dumping reload speed because I like to squeeze out a bit more stamina from mobility
>both reload speed nodes
>shovel
>bolter just fucking kills everything
>veteran makes reload times tolerable
>barely anything survives crit headshots
>great ammo efficiency thanks to its cleave just killing 4 clown car specials in a single shot
>shovel is actually fucking amazing
>having fun
I get that the nerfs will make veteran suffer a little in havoc, but uncanny grenades are fucked up enough as is. This might be my new favorite vet build. I wish I had room for both field improv and superiority complex. I briefly considered replacing demo stockpile, but the grenades are just too useful when most retards won't even drop deployables in the first place.

>>528011354
huh, was going to buy that duster in the shop but the deluxe cosmetic mogs so hard it'd be a waste

>>528011354
>E already bought the slopskin

>>528011716
Playtesters get free aquilas

>>528011760
I know, I will still make fun of him for it.

>>528011354
such small community full of mentally ill people, thought only big ones like gachas had them

I'm going to run away alone, and even when forced together, immediately break cohesion and run somewhere else without looking around once. And then whine.

>>528012715
Hum, I'll take "Slav nigger in Auric Maelstrom" for $500, Alex.

>>528011609
Take the melee and ranged damage buff after shout and the headshot damage after shout skills, combined they let you one mag weakened monsters very consistently, i’d try and get the 8 stacks for the marking too.

>>527998404
>A new mission board system will be bringing several changes to how you engage with missions and difficulties. Missions are no longer tied to a specific difficulty, allowing you to select a mission and then choose the difficulty you want. This will effectively increase the amount of mission options available for players of all difficulty levels. While most circumstances remain consistent across difficulty levels, some are disabled on lower difficulties. Notably, Maelstrom missions are exclusive to the Heresy and Auric difficulties.
One more mission board rework and they may even figure out that you can make all missions available for players to choose at any time they want.

>reinstalled after a year long hiatus
Holy FUCK gunlooger is fun with the ripper buffs, this is what the dual stubbers should have been all along, what the fuck

>>528013241
>Take the melee and ranged damage buff after shout
Yeah, good point.
>and the headshot damage after shout
Unsure where I'd even take the points from, superiority complex is necessary for certain one-shot breakpoints, and I'm fine with needing 2 mags for monstrosities.
>try and get the 8 stacks for the marking too
Definitely not possible unless I drop at least one reload speed node, which I will NOT do, it's far too comfy with.

I guess I could theoretically drop redirect fire, but a virtually permanent team-wide +7.5% damage feels a little too good to pass up.

>>528011609
I found the brittleness and bleed bolter to be the best with carapace and unyielding, sucks missing out on pinning fire but you still one shot head shot all the specials and gunners with your marking buffs, and it lets you 2 - 3 shot crushers depending on crits and devastate bosses. Amazing in havok, gets ammo hungry but the only other person you’ll be fighting for ammo with will be the flamer zealot so it’s easy enough for both of you to stay topped up.

>>528013586
I’d drop the top left stuff, and swap out the skill above your aura to the passive toughness regen one it’s amazing now. Could potentially drop the toughness dr in coherency too, but I get it that’s a scary one to leave out.

>>528013605
I've played around with blessings for a bit. Bleed is strong, but I haven't noticed that huge of an impact on monstrosities. It's quite nice for certain breakpoints, but I can already reach them with a good talent build.
Brittleness is very, very good for magdumping, but I'd rather crit fish with headshots, which yields roughly the same results as brittleness does, from my experience.
Surgical + pinning fire allow for a couple of bodyshot breakpoints which is part of why I'm using it. Obviously, yeah, go for headshots idiot, but I won't claim that my aim is always perfect, especially in a hectic situation.
I would assume bleed is still going to be better in havoc, but I have no intent on bringing veteran into havoc, it's just so fucking boring to be the grenade bitch.

>>528013895
I'll try the toughness regen, but I will for sure keep both reload speed nodes, otherwise using the bolter makes me want to fucking kill myself. I'm okay with not being 100% optimal if it means I get to have _______fun

>>527950657
Nice, coherent style. Looks like a professional.

>>528014146
Oh I was speaking more for havok, bosses get a bit chunkier so the bleed gets a chance to add up more. I usually just say fuck it and body shot things when the mission is going sideways too, the initial two shots of hip fire are super accurate so it’s great for quickly mowing down specials. Man I love bolter vet. But yeah vets not bad in havok but you have to play so carefully that it can get stressful with shit teams and you’re fucked if you need to try and clutch something whereas a zealot or ogryn at least have a bit of a chance. Definitely try the reworked toughness regen when you haven’t been hit by a melee attack though, it’s one of vets strongest survivability skills now.

>>527977835

>slav autist tries to votekick someone because he took 0.005 second to get into the valkyrie
>counter votekick him
>we hear "BLYA-ACK!" in voice com just before the valkyrie takes off
Bullying slavlets will never be not fun

>>527954758
>>528010701
>>528016483
Ranjeet propaganda btw

>>528016483
>Polish name
>Russian swear words
Very unlikely story. Didn't happen.

Slav people caca!

Can I get your upvotes now?

2 HOURS

Which modifier has the most hordes? High intensity shock troop gauntlet or High intensity engagement zone?

>>528017194
Isn’t it 3?

>>527950657
Shit, disjointed style. Looks like a nigger.

>>528016483
literally didn't happen, poles don't speak russian
make up a better story 3rd world shitskin Prajeet

SAAR THE SLAVS ARE...
UH
ARE THE SLAVS, SAAR!
PLEASE LAUGH AT THEM AND NOT AT US, SAAR
DO NOT REDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM THE ARBITES SAR BLODY BICH BENCHOD SAR I RAPE YUO IN THE AS SAAAAR

bros, imagine being a literal shit eater from a hindustani hive and NOT being able to afford two months worth of wages in callcenter ($12)
couldn't be fucking me, bros

A jeet never designated shitting street'd my lobby.

>>527998657
>Still a worse Chaos Wastes with worse rewards
Damn.

>>528018248
Indians are the ones who want to redeem arbites because indians are obsessed with wealth and not appearing to be being poor.
Slavs are just poor and alcoholic in general.

The real question is can Darktide devs create something that is not just mutators?

Which one is the best here?

>>528013895
>>528014930
Gave catch a breath a try. The toughness regen is actually very nice, thanks for the suggestion. I did feel not having get back in the fight for blocking in an emergency if I fuck up, but that's just a skill issue on my part. I feel like the toughness regen did more overall.

>>528019003
too much work they hate working on darktide and the 5 other devs are fully working on a new UE5

>>528019146
rampage increases your strenght/power not dmg so better

>>528019225
So what do I put on the other slot?

>>528019340
slaughterer or whatever on hit blessing it's called (the one on the top right)

>>528019340
I like bloodletter but I guess some autist here will say it's not optimal or whatever

>>528019429
Wrath... thanks.

>>528019220
It’s very comfy, try the other one they buffed just under the ammo aura too. I forget the name but it gives you more ranged damage as long as you haven’t been hit by a melee attack, far stronger than the long shot one.

>>528017584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnwSPPVg0DM

it says 2 hours here

>>528019596
stop typing like a twink

>>528019691
I doubt being a twink or not is contingent on how one's typing style.

>>527942649 (OP)
>used plasma gun pre buff
>stopped using it when it got OP
>will start using it if it gets nerfed again
Me, the ethical gamer.
Morally superior, with a hint of contrarianism.

>>528019340
Shred if you're playing zealot or psyker. (talent synergy)
Wrath or bloodletter if you're playing veteran. (first for horde clear, second for single target)

>>528019653
Nice
>>528020175
I just find it too boring and doesn’t capture what a plasma gun should be. The charged shots need to be big plasma explosions

You use a weapon because it's OP/no OP
I use a weapon becasue it suits my roleplay.

We're not the same.

>>528020359
same. I give fatshark a lot of shit but I think they nailed it when they said the plasma is being used like a revolver. Which is not what it's supposed to be.

>>528019146
Shred and rampage

>>528020550
The bolter is the best video game bolter ever so they’ve got the talent to make a good plasma gun, hopefully the rework is good.

Ogryn is ridiculous right now wtf

>>528021009
How?

>>528021148
Completely unkillable unless you have a brain problem.

>>528021208
So is every other class.

>>528021009
Yeah ogryn is completely brain off retard stomping. There are ogryn copers in here who say he's not broken, but they have brain problems as you said. Ogryn is currently only balanced in havoc, and completely busted everywhere else.

>>528021301
Name another class that can play himself into a corner during a horde with ragers and crushers and whatever and make it out, again and again.

>>528019827
well apparently, according to /copeg/ niggers you can determine a person's nationality, economical status, skill level AND sexuality based on your post alone
oh, and whether you frequent R*ddit or not

>>528021569
psyker with voidblast staff :)

>>528021569
Have you tried the trauma staff?

>>527998959
Kinda smart
Let the streamers do the qa balance testing and patch it in

>>528021639
>>528021683
He'd go ACK
You'd go ACK

>>528021585
Un ptit kebab, chef?

>>528021585
>according to /copeg/ niggers
kind of a moot point then since there are no niggers in /copeg/. Only African Kings

>>528021756
careful lad, schizos can roam free but if you don't type in english you get warned

>>528021693
>fatshark
>putting out a balance patch within 4 days

>>528021369
>Ogryn is currently only balanced in havoc
Just like rest of the classes.

>>527944934
Yeah and as thr only obvious gun with hall jack pierce as well it makes even less sense
Rebalance the flamer to do wall hacks I say

Ok wich one of you retards wrote that?

>>528021569
Psyker flame staff, DS, venting shriek.
Veteran plasmagun, DS, shredder spam, VoC.
Zealot flamer, DS, chorus.

>>528022745
Sounds like a massive faggot

>>528022745
It's the slav/pajeet who rages over arbites being 12$

>>528022787
None of those have enough stagger for that situation, let alone dr and toughness regen.

>>528022745
i did fuck you

>>528022787
>Psyker flame staff
I'd say Trauma staff with Blazing Spirit blessing so shit dies over time. Add in some dodges and you're good to go.

>>528023121
That is very true.

>>527979271
The amount of times i have missed a headshot because the ogryn wants to dump 3 grenades on every special he sees is fucking infuriating. I thank god when i see their ammo symbol turn red.

>>528011354
Is that a face that's currently in the game?

>>528022787
Dead
Dead
Dead
All charging their shit, interrupted, ACK'd

108 minutes until the arbites meta is settled.

>>528023204
Playing with ogryns is just as bad as smite now, they make the game a snooze fest

How fitting that we should be freed from NDA slavery and oppression on Juneteenth

Let us pray shotgun bros

>>528023121
>Add in some dodges
You're in a corner. Surrounded by these enemies and a horde, you're not dodging, you can't dodge.
>shit dies over ti
You're dead.

>>528023261
I do not believe games that do not have PVP can have a meta of any kind.

>>528023457
>You're in a corner. Surrounded by these enemies and a horde, you're not dodging, you can't dodge.
Trauma staggers everything and you can get out of the corner and dodge even.
You just sound like a bad player.

>>528023225
It's either edited in or Arbites comes with new faces

>>528023605
These newfags don't know shit about the trauma staff and how it has always trivialized the game.

>>528023472
easily disproved by playing havoc but okay

>>528023605
Trauma does not stagger when there's 50 people already in you're face. You need space. You. Are. Dead.

>>528023783
Bowling ball launcher is still too satisfying. The CRUNCH when you get a hallway filled with shit is too good i can't use anything else.

>>528023890
>t. 50 hours on the game

>>528023783
>newfags
>always
You whined it was shit the entire first year and played gun psyker. You are also dead.

>>528023994
>The dead speak!

>>528023953
Do you really enjoy moving at walking aid pace? Because that was my experience with the bowling ball staff. Can't even sprint slide, you barely charge the fucking thing halfway before your slide ends.

>>528023890
>Trauma does not stagger when there's 50 people already in you're face
>he doesn't know
Lol, lmao

>>528023890
>Trauma does not stagger when there's 50 people already in you're face.
It does though. Aim at your feet if they're too close. Just make sure you're not running bubble.

>>528023890
This is embarrassing.

>>528024092
>>528024138
You're being raised by the ogryn soon, it's okay

>>528024064
No worse than having to reload a bolter in the middle of a crowd, you try to dodge well and laugh at whatever is getting in your face when it is charged.

>>528023890
>shitter crying over ogryn again
Every single time.

No seriously this one's new isn't it

>>528024213
>>528024326
Struck a nerve deadie?

>>528024372
nah

I wonder what the third le quirky non British voice will be for arbite? Hearing other accents in 40k makes me sick

>>528024372
No, it's just male number 9 + bad compression.

>>528024503
American

>>528024562
Definitely not man

>>528024712
Then you're deluded. Don't respond to me again.

>>528024503
>>528024656
Judge Dredd is American, so that's what we're gonna get

>>528024780
you're autistic and faceblind this is not even close to being the same

>>528024712
It clearly is

I told you not to respond. Shut up, idiot buffoon.

>>528024989
am I being fucked with, it's not even remotely similar

It doesn't fucking matter, retards. It's just a face in a 1st person game.

>>528025093
how did you manage to make it more blurry Pajeet wtf

>>528025093
Holy fuck you're stupid

>>528025208
Nigger it matters because it would be cool if they're adding more customization options

>>528024836
Dredd is a sci fi piss take of America made by Brits

>>528025252
I made it more blurry on purpose to show it's not just the compression, you dumbfuck
you people are confirmed autistic holy fuck. Actual faceblindness. I bet you think leonardo di caprio looks like willem dafoe

>>528025272
Shut the fuck up, bitch. Don't fucking talk to me.

>>528025297
Uh yeah. I know

>>528024262
>No worse than having to reload a bolter in the middle of a crowd
Eh, veteran can fix the terrible reload times with talents, and you can just shout (or even stealth) to buy yourself some space to reload even if you have just one, or none, of the reload talents. Zealot shouldn't even be using the bolter often enough for reloads to be a big concern.
I'm not overly worried about the staff's performance, it definitely does adequately in aurics, I just find it a slog to use and difficult to keep up with people playing at a faster pace
>skill issue
I guess I'm not used to how much the damn thing slows you down. Maybe I should just start using it with a knife or something to get around quickly.
I still much prefer shock staff for aurics with tards, and trauma or flame otherwise. Then again, I don't like playing psyker all that much anymore.

One voice sounds like a gravely English guy, the other man’s voice is hard to place, almost sounds like a street shitter or a slav. For the ladies ones a vague Brit and the other is vague slav.

If you light a face from a different angle it looks the same. Same edges get highlighted. Everyone knows that.
But what I don't get is how does the mirror know about the egg?

>>528025093
im with you man. Different frown. Different head shape. Different chin.

>>528025757
Finding spare skill points to put into the reload skills is the hard part, of you go for swap speed you can get one for no point tax but miss out on the toughness on kill which hurts, the other ones might as well not exist because there’s no way you’re finding enough spare points in a good bolter build for them.

>>528025913
Looks like every other bloke you’d see in my local pub kek

Edges of the screen with screen warp effects look the same as the middle of the screen.

>>528026003
Yeah absolutely. I did a bunch of shuffling points around and ended up with >>528011609 now with some slight changes thanks to suggestions here (For the Emperor! and Catch a Breath instead of other talents in the same row)
I'd build it differently for havoc (no capstone, meaning no deadshot because no stamina, taking demo team because not doing so in havoc is fucking retarded) but I'd still keep at least one reload speed talent.

does the new retcon for Darktide upcoming class even make sense? apparently the ship where you start the game was adeptus arbites' property but why the fuck the inquisition would need the adeptus arbites around and their assets when they are the most powerful adeptus of the imperium and independent from whatever other adepti(?) of the imperial hierarchy except the emperor? At least on the old-ish lore.

>>528026436
Lol look at this nerd caring about warhammer lore

Nobody tell him. Let him figure it out by himseld

Random question but does anyone have a screenshot of the scene in dread where he’s addressing the criminals, the one the arbites trailer recreates?

>>528019653
72 MINUTES

>>528026794
no but you can easily find it on youtube

>>528026436
Not all inquisitors are the same, seems Grendel no longer has his own ship for reasons or is trying to keep a low profile. We really don’t have an answer but it’s perfectly in line with 40k. The inquisition is power but not all inquisitors are leading massive armies. The Arbites having Wolfer in custody before the inquisitor arrives wouldn’t be unheard of. We really need more story though, after all this time and we only have crumbs.

>>528027168
Umh, makes sense.

>>528025863
anyone who can rotate an apple in his head can imagine what the face looks like in different lighting and knows that >>528025913 looks absolutely fucking nothing like >>528024712
you're such a little bitch dude, always wrong and coping

>>528026436
Inquisition are Gestapo/CIA/Mossad glowniggers that operate in small cells, Arbites are FBI-like spess cops who ensure taxes are paid and anyone that threatens that is brained with a power maul.
This means the Arbites has a larger manpower base and permanent presence on the planet while the Inquisition operates in the shadows, but the Inquisition outranks the Arbites which is how Rannick could order them to hand over Wolfer while Zola basically used her authority to conscript Rejects from the Arbites.
The Inquisition warband didn't have the manpower to apprehend Wolfer so the Arbites managed it somehow, and since the situation on Tertium is going to shit, the Arbites decided to 'volunteer' themselves into the Inquisition's operations, which Rannick in theory could tell them to fuck off but there's no good reason to.

>>528026351
The keystone is actually really good in havok, 32% team wide damage buff for bosses and a 12% team wide damage buff between bosses is very strong. The stamina and toughness it gives the team is nice too, especially the stamina.

>>528027652
I can rotate my balls in your mom's mouth

The face is the same and nightreign was underhyped

>>528027709
>Arbites managed it somehow
The somehow was likely just kicking the door in and blasting everything to death with a shotgun

I just despise Hallowette.
Meanspirited, irritaring, uppity, with one of the most annoying voices in videogames. Hope she gets turned into a servitor next.

>>528028038
Libtards in charge of character writing

>>528028321
It's just standard 40k writing mixed with modern marvel.
Ie. everyone is a complete prick and an asshole of somekind while making bad quips and in general boring dialogue.

>>528028038
Her getting killed like a chump in a V1 “your home base gets attacked” style mission would be great. I just want a map on a ship

>>528028038
i read in Kay-Ex voice.

TURN ON CNN THEY'RE PLAYING ARBITES EARLY

>>528022745
Some retard for sure
When the new mastery system appeared I was having a blast "making weapons work"
All that said I wish we had the OG helbore
>crazy generous headshotting
>fast stabs
>high damage stabs and marginally weaker normal stabs
It's been changed so much since launch, and I'm just disappointed know-it-all retards who only play to thr meta such as in anon's pic will be all vocal and uppity and in turn be parroted by other retards who, got forbid, don't even play thr game

WTF AN ARBITES JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE WTF IS HAPPENING

>>528016971
Don't encourage them anon.

>>528021569
All Shovel variants hav crazy stagger
And so does the helbore stab

Zealot zap hammer is pretty strong too

>>528027709
interesting

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

Bully club nerfs next right? Because this thing is even stronger than the toothpick

The arbites will get the shovels
Trust the plan. 53 more minutes

>>528019653
50 MINUTES

More like Arbitard

>>528028809
I should say by zap hammer I mean the 2h maul
Thunderhammer requires decision making
At least if you want a braindead weapon you can get by with stun bonking

>>528026436
The Arbites has a strict and robust structure, as well as resources properly allocated throughout the Imperium. Though the Inquisition has high authority, inquisitors are a bunch of paranoid haphazard yahoos whose resources are mostly limited by their personal influence and what's available from local requisition. Some militant Inquisitors may maintain a large force, but most don't to make investigation easier and simply commandeer as needed. Grendyl seems keen on his information network of agents, and simply throwing his badge around when he needs more.
Also the High Marshal of the Arbites has a seat on the High Lords of Terra, making both organizations represented at that level.

>>528029039
>50 MINUTES
1 hour and 50 minutes

More like arBUTTes!

>>528029054
plz don't make it a ritual post

>>528029159
50 minutes, you dumb fuck

>>528028868
Nightreign? More like underhyped failure!

>>528025757
I like bolter on zealot
>Weapon and knife for literally everything
>Whip out the bolter to delete bosses and 1shot snipers I cant hit with my knife
Granted a laspistol can do the exact same thing, but the bolter is more cathartic

>>528029159
>he's waiting for the gay Mister E video

>>528024562
>>528024780
>>528025037
>>528025208
>>528025447
woman coded posts

>>528029459
There are two gay Mr E videos, thank you very much. Talent tree deep dive in 43 and full patch notes in 2 hours.

>>528029910
3 videos

>>528029347
oh yeah? Fuck you!

>>528028038
I can't stand Commissar Dukane's voice either, she legit sounds retarded

>>528030295
She looks like a fuckable goblin I wish she kept her scottish accent

>>528030295
if you think about it, dukane horseshoe'd all the way to become a sexist stereotype
>bitch who somehow got into a high ranking military position
>just stands around
>doesn't actually do anything except try to look pretty and complain in a tough girl voice

>>528030295
At least she only talks for a few seconds
Niggerette hoots and yaps in several missions and in the mourningstar

>>528030465
>>528030295
I think I heard devora wilde doing her tzarina Katarin voice for one of the snippets of arbites gameplay
I think Katarin is hot so I'm going to enjoy that bitchy husky Slavic impression alot

>>528030295
Her voice work is awful yeah

>>528030673
holy fuck... THE Devora Wilde?
Devora. Wilde. Emperor bless

Fake slav accent is a trope I want to die in video games.

>>528030794
>Emperor bless
You better not be talking about the mindflayer

>>528030794
It's not confirmed and I was poring through the dev blog for it but I would be willing to bet I heard her after hundreds of hours of playing kislev

>>528030941
Devora. Fraggin. Wilde. Oh my emperor.

>>528030872
Yeah but it's an UK mockery so it's fun

>>528030872
I just don't want slavs in my video games

>>528030872
just get a real fucking slav holy shit, there are millions of them

>>528031384
They didn't get real baguettes for brettonia, why should they get real slaves for the empire

>>528031528
They didn't get a real french woman for the female savant psyker neither. It's a jewish/british actress

>>528031384
It's easier to hire someone to fake a slav accent than it is to hire a real slav and keep them sober enough to record their voicelines

>>528019653
25 MINUTES! GO TAKE A SHIT BOYS!

>25 minutes shit
You should stop eating kebabs, anon.

They should have someone with a nordic accent like the black bunny in ff14, so I could feel second hand embarrassment every time he opens his mouth.

>>528032197
is steak ok? (sirloin, with mushrooms)

>>528031745
Heckin based
It's so offensively French it circles back to being fun

>>528032268
Oskar Krall (the surgeon) has a danish accent

>>528032268
Other than the barber I mean

>>528032382
WHAT'S ON THE SIDE? WHAT'S ON THE SIDE YOU FUCKER?

>>528028038
>Got the urge to splurge?

>>528032513
i told you! mushrooms! and a can of coke zero

>>528032557
Don't start this insufferable shit again

>>528032730
no potatoes? no fries?
-meat
-vegetables
-potato/fries

that's how it works

>>528021569
Trauma psyker, with no problem. Zealot and vet if they have their abilities ready and good weapons.

>>528019653
15 MINUTES

>no insanely overplayed THICC German accent for arbites
dropped and flopped, huge missed opportunity

>>528032513
I'm eating rats with a side of cheese

>>528032894
Usually yes but I'm in the cutting phase.

>>528033272
Non monsieur!

>>528033238
>no German arbites and male loner banter/kinship for coming from the same shithole

>>528033238
>Guten tag, einwohner von Habitat Dreyko. Papiere bitte.

>>528033238
>a judge dredd (British) homage in 40k (British) should be German
>missed opportunity
Kek

>>528034003
>a judge dredd (British)
sorry bro, that voice was claimed by strong American actors

4 minutes!!!!

>>528034117
The only good Dredd is a Kiwi (British but on the other side of the world)

>>528034117
of italian descent (the other one was aussie or kiwi)

>>528019653
2 MINUTES!

IT'S HAPPENING!

what are we counting down to? Link to the video

WHERE?

>>528034358
Based Karl Urban is half german tho.

>a fucking countdown

FUCKING GOOK

>>528034978
>Irish flag colors

come on friends post a link

>>528034843
>>528035116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnwSPPVg0DM

>>528035116
https://www.twitch.tv/directory/category/warhammer-40-000-darktide

>>528035156
thanks

>first video I see is then using a bolter
Oh here we fucking go

Cape is not an accessory
I repeat, cape is NOT an accessory

shtogun special is a fucking tazer hahahahahaha

HAHAHAHA the epic "executioner round" is just a 2 second smite and does LESS damage
lmao

>three shot mauler kill
That’s without blessing right? Haha fuck you fatshark

>>528035728
handy for opening up bulwark shields

>>528035609
told you

holy fucking shit what

>>528035973
>fight one bulwark pack
>out of special rounds
lmao

>>528036102
ogryn-levels of bonkers

>>528036102
Vermintide ass.

>>528036102
But will they have a melee weapon capable of staggering crushers I wonder?

I...I'm not sure I like those weapons....

>>528036319
what are you missing?

It's up
It's vaguely christmas tree shaped but not as bad as was memed
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

the new weapons look like fucking shit

FLASHBANG SHIELD

>>528036319
Needing to block cancel seems pretty old fashioned now, I though fatshark had finally figured out that logically looping combos were a good thing

>>528036526
i still think the first eviscerator has the funnest moveset

>>528036417
>dog counts as coherency (aura)
>+7.5% reload speed aura
>+10% vs staggered aura
Wow it's fucking nothing

Wait, so the shotgun and revolver with shield is a ranged weapon? So you can use two shields?

Remember the really aggressive autist who INSISTED they wouldn't get their own unique start?
Fucking retard man. It's always the really incredibly hostile spergs who are the dumbest and most wrong

>>528036848
>So you can use two shields?
yes, but only one at a time

>>528036417
>none of the new weapons have skill crusher
Bros…

the shock mine will be meta

>>528036962
time to take the shock maul pill

>>528037032
Dogless shock mine, because it regenerates the mine every 60s like vet lol

im a bit pissed at how every 'bites weapon is just a variation on existing weaponry. now that im watching the testing i'm even more mad. WHY did we need a second shock maul.

we watchin our girl chocob?
https://youtu.be/qnwSPPVg0DM

God, the Maul voice is so fucking bad.

>Fatalist
>Most normal guy alive
lol

Wow these voices are fucking terrible, only fatalist male isn't life changing cringe.

>>528036417
All of those nodes are retarded and overtuned wow. This is THE powercreep class

aaaand laezel sounds like shit

so the doomers were right
this shit is just vet with a doggo

OH NO NO DOG BROS

Male maul is cringe kino, I fucking love it.

what the fuck is this talent tree god damn

>>528037874
Lol the dog is def going away

>>528037874
yeah im finna kill this bitch lmao

>>528037869
>with a dog
>>528037874
Not anymore kek

>>528037698
With this update you're gonna have to either embrace the cringe, or be a tryhard who isnt embracing it. Kerillian being Maul (cringe incarnate) is a big win for me and Im only the third biggest coomer itt.

what other class have would made sense to add? a Skitaarius, a low level inquisitorial agent? an assassin?

>>528037874
Yeah, nobody will use dog

>>528033238
The German accent in the game is the second worst voice in the game so maybe that’s for the best

>>528038160
shut the fuck up

>bl4 talent trees have way more options with more impactful nodes
...darkshitesisters...

>>528037874
Take a look at bottom left.

>>528037874
>introduce dog class with the dog being a big highlight
>nuke the dog before the class even releases

>>528038223
dura lex sed lex

>shotgun 1shotting everything
he was right

>>528038198
never post again with shit opinions like that literally THE voice with the greatest range/performance by the VA

>>528037874
>meta arbeetus is just fucking zealot-veteran
>even has vet's demostockpile
>free 10% attack speed
Holy fuck the devs are fucking stupid.
Thanks for the OP shit though.

>>528037874
Sooo... this is just better vet with chorus instead of shout?

>>528038461
nta but he only sounds good when he drops that screeching manner, which is very very rare

>mister e gameplay snip
>he two shots crushers with a fucking shock maul
Ok yeah I now understand what you guys meant when you said dlc classes in vt2 were powercrept.

i want a darktide with a spes mareen, a sis' of battle, a custustodian, an inquisitor (and a sister of silence)

>arbitrator armour
>+25 toughness
There's your armor being added as a "gameplay" gimmick.
Armor will always be cosmetic in this game. Lmao

so I guess female maul and hope that lines won't be too cringe (they will be)?

>arbites gets crusher
YES LETS FUCKIN GO I GET TO USE MY FAVORITE MELEE WEAPON!!!

>>528038869
>Armor will always be cosmetic in this game.
well yeah? are you retarded?

>arbites base stats
>200 health like zealot
>100 toughness like veteran
>crit chance is 7.5% innately
Lmao, they really just took the best parts of all classes and shoved them into one.

>>528039125
>100 toughness
It's 150, because you are forced to take two +25 toughness nodes.

Damn ChocoB really plays like shit

The talent tree is disappointing. It's strong, sure, but nearly every talent is just a slight variant of another, existing talent. Even the keystones
>not-disrupt destiny
>not-wep specialist
>not-feel no pain
lame lame lame. They have no devs working on this game anymore. The people left are only capable of making art assets and minor edits to existing scripts

>arbites only gets 7 melee weapons on release
>no las ranged either
what the fuck thats basically ogryn tier.

he looks fun, might pig out

>>528038753
To a degree, base pyro was always the strongest class besides sister of the thorn, that was the only true broken as fuck dlc career. They reworked it after about a year

>>528039315
he should get laspistols for sure

Did it simply miss it or is there absolutely zero ammo regen in the shotgun tree? Disappointing since even vet can run dry with them

>>528039850
ask nicely for a survivalist vet teammate

>>528039224
I didn't even realize that.
Holy fuck, you can make this dude more braindead and tanky than the ogryn.

>>528039549
how much is it supposed to cost this shit?

the dog is so useless..

>>528040016
doesn't look useless at all

>>528028038
Makes you think how asian gachashit will usually have a cute shopkeeper to sell you microtransactions, while swedoids came up with an arrogant, short tempered niggress who threatens to assassinate anyone who gets on her nerves. Not that it stops piggies from oinking, but what are the chances a more attractive shopkeeper encourages more oinking?

the shield revolver seems to be absolutly useless passing spit distance

>>528040245
I like how they try to hype her up to be the most dangerous person on the ship too. Like yeah, okay, the fuck is she gonna do to an Ogryn or a psyker who can explode her head with a thought.

After 4 years we finally get a fucking shotgun that doesn't blow 20 donkey dicks. Arbiter is okay in my book.

>dog jumps into the void
KEK
>it respawns
aww

All these jump dodges are driving me insane.

Watching ChocoB play is like watching a lvl 400 in havoc

He's doing ok but god it's painful to watch.

Doomers on life support

Why is the Authoritarian a fucking Samurai? Definitely going to use Maul with a voice changer.

I jump dodge

Doomsissies are trying so hard!

There is no way guys are actually block canceling the entire time in melee right? Maybe its good, but that seems pretty unfun to me.

Open your wallet, Ivan.

>>528041380
I do it all the time with psyker greatsword to get better attack strings. It just gets really annoying if you do it with ogryn shield because it's after literally one attack so you are doing nothing but block cancelling

>>528041380
I do it with relic and I like it

>>528041380
nah it feels good, this game is about rhythm maxxing doing that shit in melee is haptic bliss, going into that battle stance

>>528041380
No, I just pick the weapon marks I can do light + heavy or heavy + heavy chains with.

>Penance skins
Nice

>>528040401
She technically is rather dangerous for a regular human, being a Rogue Trader's Seneschal, specializing in torture and finances, so her danger mostly comes from the toys she has access to in Brahm's collection.

Haha

can't wait to get hallowette lore instead of brahms in snortis trials

Cuckspeaker seems to have an eon long cooldown. Lasting 20 seconds seems hardly worth it when you have to wait an eternity to get it back. Psykinetic aura and stimms will carry it so fucking hard it's not even funny.

>>528041502
>I do it all the time with psyker greatsword
that's the last weapon i could imagine blockcanceling with. Why you do it? And what mark?

Dun like new mission screen, sah

Did they really just gave Arbites a better weapons specialist? Fuck this shit, I'm benching my vet.

>>528038160
With both Rogue Trader and Inquisitor in game, literally anything Order aligned could be added

the Nuncio-Aquila abilty seems to be really shite

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
ARE THEY RETARDED? THIS IS WORSE THAN OGRYN

>>528042609
hmmm. This is a case for using autoguns with melee builds, is it not? Spray the a braced autogun into a blob to instantly replenish "Melee Justice" stacks.

>>528042483
VI, light light light block for horde clear.
I think the VIII might be better overall and doesn't need to do the block cancel gimmick, but I also do a lot of push attacks, and the VI's follow-up light attack is a horizontal, as opposed to the VIII's stab.

>>528042895
Just casually tank 3 crusher overheads at the same time due to your small pool of 200 HP. You can probably tank even more due to various damage reducing nodes.
>>528042975
Should also work very well with shotguns due to the added cleave.

>>528036417
Wait, how is Remote Detonation supposed to work if you go Lone Wolf? You brap lightning around yourself?

>>528042975
yeah or shoot once with a shotgun

>>528042483
>>528042989
Oh I should also add, on the VIII the first two light attacks are perfectly horizontal while the third and fourth are slightly diagonal. You can get better headshots if you block cancel after light 2.

>>528042989
I see.
I also prefer VI but that's because of the second heavy stab attack. It murders crushers.

>>528042895
Holy FUCK this is amazing
Confirmed a havok must pick

how periodically is periodically in the execution order keystone?

I actually can't tell which routes through the tree are supposed to be trap ones. I can't even say which Keystone is going to be the worst one. I guess Forceful? It looks just like slightly better Feel No Pain.
Shit's broken.

>>528043325
They're both good but have different uses. The VI is definitely better to focus a build around, but VIII has easier and thus arguably better horde clear on builds that want nothing BUT horde clear. Which I admit is rare on psyker, but I like it with lightning staff because it's FUCKING USELESS against trash hordes.

>>528043198
maybe it replaces stance or something depending on being dogfucker or doglet

So do we know what weapons the Arbitrator will have access to besides the new ones?

Oh yeah we have Blazing Piety at home.
They really fucking threw shit from every other class into this tree.

>>528043616
Yes.

>>528043616
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
Check for yourself.

>>528043616
This one fat chick is showing off some of his stuff.

>>528043560
Forceful is going to be the only one people pick, others are generally worse than not picking a keystone
meta will be skullcrusher + forceful + no dog + stagger passives

>>528043867
At least they have Crusher. Haha...

>>528043867
so uhh what do I even use if I hate shield? new maul? crusher?

>>528043804
This is just Massacre from Ogryn but better.

>>528043918
Execution order seems to have a stupidly short cooldown and can tag things automatically through walls. Wall hacks are good, and it has a +50% cooldown regeneration attached to it, and using your ability more is also good. We'll have to see how it turns out in practice, but I've got my eyes on execution order.

>dog names not visible in-mission
SCAM DLC
PREORDER CANCELED

>>528043918
I guess the Dog one could also be good? Need to wait for someone to do the math + see it in action. Seems like you really can buff it quite a lot, but dunno how valuable it's going to be.

>>528044128
Execution order is gonna be annoying for the same reason DD Is annoying
forceful gives you permanent 25% strength with charge and CDR + good other stats

ChocoB and Demonie arbitering together on twitch :3

>>528044157
>Shiba cliffs himself
You can definitely see your own dog's name, but I don't know about other people's dogs.

>>528044128
Am I blind or is that the only node with CDR in the whole tree?

>>528043867
CRUSHER ON ARBITES YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>528044270
Unlike disrupt destiny, execution order doesn't seem to have a limit to it, and prioritizes targets you actually want marked. If you kite a dense horde long enough, they're all going to be blue. It also seems to be permanent.
What I'm curious about is whether others see it, because that would make it an incredible support ability. For that reason alone I doubt it, but fatshark is retarded as fuck so who knows.

>>528044438
now noticed that arbeter won't have his beta helmet

>>528043867
NO DUELLING SWORD

INTO

THE

TRASH

IT

GOES

>>528044348
They should've made it visually dig its way back, emerging through the floor.
Not just pop back into existence.

So the MK7 Arbeetus Shotgun special doesn't even electrocute? It has the sound, but it does nothing. Also 2 bullets less for the same damage as the other one. The fuck is this shit.

>>528042895
Anti button mashing retard talent

>>528044348
but i want people to read my funny dog name

>>528044824
Actually I'm retarded and that was MK8.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f31b0d9-a3fb-4429-90d7-e8e25e87b467/beetus

Charge build for the 'beetus.

>>528043385
>all havoc melee attacks have a corruption component to them
>crusher/mauler overheads you
>if fatshark didn't account for that, it corrupts you down to 1 anyway, or worse, corrupts you before applying the damage and thus fucking kills you anyway

>>528044824
The other mark deals an armor pen debuff.

>>528043841
Thank you. Apologies for being blind.
And holy hell he looks strong. Shame we can't have a relic blade with him.

Seems pretty boring, most of his talents already exist in otehr classes. Seems like he's also gonna be OP though so I'll buy

>Guy double tags daemonhost
>Arbite says "If you wake that daemon I'll kill you myself"
Funny

>>528045608
good safety measure

I'm genuinely unsure what the meta for Arbites will be. All the keystones and ultimates seem very powerful in their own way, I think they did a good job

That perk sucks because you shouldn't be getting hit anyway.

>>528045034
That probably will happen
There was a corruption bug in vt1 where if you were at 10% your max hp it would insta kill you upon picking up a grim

If I want a class with no dog, I play vet.

The dog stays.

>>528045720
>shouldn't
but will

>>528043986
>>528043867
Arbeetus maul doesn't have Skullcrusher for some reason, instead it gets Thunderous and Executioner (20% damage to staggered)? What else does it have to differentiate itself with the generic Shock Maul?
>>528044438
>Fartshart too lazy to give Arbeetus a 1h power maul
>give them the Crusher instead
Bravo Fatshit

>>528045676
>game already infested with the most braindead shit possible
>make a class that's impossible to build badly due to how much OP shit it has
Yeah really fucking good job.

>>528045809
You can have a miniature smigger-chan, and killing the dog lets you get another smigger-chan every 60 seconds.

The meta weapons for arbeetus will be the crusher and rashad

>>528045720
It's k, the talents on the way are mandatory melee damage nodes anyway.

The shield blessing seem a bit dissapointing.
Only blessing worth it is High Voltage, rest are just kind of meh or just straight up bad.

>>528046171
Anon... the dog can smite too.

>>528039669
>>528039315
No las weaponry is lore accurate thouhg, at least we won't see recon las Arbites pissing lasers every other game. Hopefully the sniper shotgun comes soon.

Have the penance cosmetics been revealed?

>>528046251
>pump-action cylinder-fed shot sniper
What?

>>528046252
Yes.

>>528046361
Truly grimdark

>>528046251
I hope it doesn't because that shit is stupid as fuck.
I hate british no-guns.

I don't even know how to build my Arbeetus...
Too much good stuff.

>>528046514
Always pick weakspot is automatic stagger

>>528046361
>>528046486

>>528046251
Arbites do use Las guns from time to time though

>>528046514
Pocket-smigger blitz seems broken, so that goes in
Concussive (right from blitzes) is fucked up because it makes skullcrusher on melee broken as hell on bosses
True grit (far bottom right) is an insanely powerful crutch, if it actually works
These seem relatively universal

>>528046695
Concussive?
I don't think it actually staggers the enemies, just makes them count as staggered for blessings and such.

handmaiden bros how is it looking

>>528010886
I meant show me an example of anyone saying anything remotely similar to that

>>528011354
Gross. Fuck that fag
>>528011558
I have no idea what you’re talking about

>>528046412
Can you post them?

>>528046917
Yep. Pick it

>>528016483
>>528016742
>>528016971
>>528018248
>>528018068
>>528018460
>>528022959
all true in their own way

>>528046917
That would let the Crusher and Shock Maul get Skullcrusher off bosses if you hit their weakpoint, since you can't stagger them normally.

>>528021585
That's correct, get better newfag.
>>528021782
t. paheal cuck

>>528021836
>but if you don't type in english you get warned
Based jannies

HD2 is getting kinda stale. If I absolutely despised the psuedo-MMO gear progression nonsense in VT2 am I going to have a bad time with Darktide?

>gonna have to level a new character to 30 alongside hunting for curios

>>528047156

>>528047571
Darktide's system is better

>>528047571
if you have enough resources then you have nothing to worry about. But I don't know what it's like to be a poor new player.

>>528047571
darktide system is the exact same

>>528047639
>hunting for curios
I got 150k melkbucks for curio gamba

>>528032502
*swedish
>>528038160
we're already inquisitorial agents
>assassin
lol

>>528038461
Objectively not true. Plus that doesn’t make up for his dialogue being reddit incarnate.

>>528045885
Cope, nerftranny. This ain't the game for you.

>>528047884
Haven't bothered with this pedo after the crafting update

the mmorpg circle is gay
my immersion is broken

>>528048105
me neither, that's why i'm rich. Finally something to spend it on

>>528032557
Made for BWC

>>528047571
When you create a new character in darktide, you have access to a very limited number of weapons.
As you use a weapon, that weapon levels up, but you can also spend resources to expedite the process. Unfortunately, as a new player, you will be broke as fuck and always hurting for resources.
As you level up, you unlock a wider arsenal, but must also level those weapons up again.
Your weapon stats are generally randomized, but you can once again spend resources to roll for random grays that you can then upgrade, and then change their bonuses at will at the cost of resources.
You also unlock a special NPC that will give you side quests to complete, like killing 1000 spiky dudes with ranged weapons, for a special currency. You can use that currency to buy already fully upgraded weapons (appropriate to your level, anyway) that have random and probably crap stats, BUT you don't have to level the weapon to upgrade it, so it can be useful at times, especially when you're just leveling a weapon naturally because you're a brokie.

What this means in practice is: You can arguably metaslave relatively early on by just taking any lasgun, putting infernus on it, and building into crit, while making your melee a dedicated can opener. This works on most classes, and there's no shame in using a metaslave recon las build on everyone when you're just grinding for mats. But it obviously depends on what class you're playing.

>>528048150
It's a mod (cheat) mr. estrogen uses

>>528047893
>swedish
No. It's very, very clearly danish. The voice actor is a danish man named Lars Knudsen

>>528048413
No it's not, Chocob ha it too and he doesn't use mods

>spells soi the 4chins way
Are the devs based?
are they here, in this very thread?

>>528048597
Proofs?

>>528047893
>we're already inquisitorial agents
Inquisitorial soldiers. We are just muscle and that is it.

>>528048658
no proofs. Just my word.

>nigs were saying the shotgun was gonna suck

Notice how Mister E, a known faggot, named his arbites "40 percent cop"?

>>528048727
Bunch of fucking idiots
Why are doomers so fucking stupid and retarded and should all die?

>>528048727
Killing chaff isn't a feat.

>>528048825
Based, Free Palestine.

>>528048659
Hallow*tt* calling us toy soldiers was the breaking point for me. I want that nigger gone.

>>528048659
Same shit these days, it's just that we aren't playing Dark Heresy so all we do is slaughter heretics and sabotage their operations instead of doing more investigative stuff.
To be fair, it's not like a lifelong soldier, a religious murderhobo or a giant retard would offer much in an investigation besides muscle.

>>528048853
>>528048897
One of the Marks does as much damage as the Kickback but with Carapace penetration. 4 shells take out 1/4th of a Plague Ogryn's health on the meat grinder.

>>528048727
Instead it's the revolver that sucks.

>>528049032
>giant retard
Don't be so hard on yourself, sparky.

>>528048719
I'll take you at your word and I'll concede.

>>528020767
Hell, it’s one of the best video game guns ever. Really saddens me Space Marine 2 had nothing comparable in sheer satisfaction of shooting it.
>>528023321
Be silent, nigpepe.

>>528048727
bower greep

>>528048897
for a shotgun it is

I still don't know how to name my dog

>>528048825
So that's what it means, thought it was a nigger stat. Guess the troon flag on the channel was just a foreshadowing of his descent

>>528025297
>Brits taking the piss out of anyone
Ironic.

i love you small ogryn

>>528049472
He literally bans people for "suspecting they have bad politics" and makes pedo references, it's a classic

Fuck your shotgun, I'm building bolter with castigator stance and execution order for cooldownmaxxing so I can LITERALLY be veteran but with a dog.

>>528049315
Space marine 2 unironically got bolters right.
The reason why they feel anemic is because you're fighting tyranid, quite literally bio-engineered horrors from beyond the stars that never relent and only adapt to their enemy and prey.

>>528027929

>>528049674
It makes sense that the enemies are so tanky but SM2 still doesn't get Bolters right in the VFX and SFX departments, they sound and look puny

>>528049664
Lmao, can you post any evidence?

>>528049823
They sound fine and look exactly as they should be.

>>528049472
The nigger stat is 13(% of the US population) 90(% of violent crime)

>>528050085
Acknowledged, castigating americanus 13-90

>>528031745
>jewish
Ruined