#1921 - A Storm is Approaching edition
Halo Info:
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Halo News:
>Phil Spencer cites 2026 for "the return of a classic that has been with Xbox since the beginning"https://kotaku.com/xbox-showcase-halo-ce-remaster-forza-horizon-6-gears-1851784012
>Halo to make BIG announcement at HCS World Champipnshiphttps://gamerant.com/rumor-halo-series-announcement-new-game/
>Halo 3's Hayabusa Armor Returns in Infinite, will be a free exchange itemhttps://youtu.be/3w7icYLffvM?si=OuUqXieXYVCPTC0B
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How would you go about adding human enemies to Halo?
>>527995974spartan 4 enemies are a no brainer in 343's era
halo 4 set them up as normal guys with normal flaws
but if you ignore 343 shit, they could just be like brutes with breakable armor, grenades, equipment and melee
maybe you could have a riot shield variant that run really fast like those south korean riot controllers
engineers who interact with the environment like watchers; making turrets and shit
medics can heal non-headshot guys like how the flood don't revive 'disarmed' combat forms in halo 3
>>527995974>>527997318and they should have covenant allies but brutes and elites should be rare in that faction because humans would fulfil most of their gameplay functions
and give them a fun personality
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Humans with riot shields can't shoot, but can integrate with jackals who can shoot. Human shields are resistant to grenade damage. They can't see when charging so they need an ally to tell them where to turn and when.
>>527995491 (OP)>A Storm is Approaching edition>check the weather prognosis>it is approaching>check out the window>it's mostly sunnyStop lying to me!
>>527995974There were mods that did that, felt a bit weird, but whatever, I am fine with it, especially if you play as an ayy for those missions.
>>527998168I liked covenant edition for halo 2 mcc. Never got updated unfortunately but different weapons made marines behave differently. Spartan ai was dogshit tho.
Look at those slutty femspartans, strutting their stuff.
>>527998634>perfected in 5>removed in infinite343's greatest crime. Hopefully Pierre's an ass man.
*psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss*
>>527999254How does Chief piss and shit during the missions?
>>527999254>halo pisses from the frontngmi
>pissing from the front
slips over with cartoon sounds
>pissing from he ass
doesn't slip over, keeps fighting
pissing from the ass is waste, fraud and abuse
waste...fraud...and abuse!
It's time to play the game...
ohohohoho
TIME TO PLAY THE GAME!!!!
>grows fifty stories tall and fucks the palace of pain
RUN FROM THIS ONE LITTLUL SCCCHHHHHHHHHHHPPPPPAAARTUNNNNNNNNNNNNN
It's all about the game and how you play it
All about control and if you can take it
All about your debt and if you can pay it
It's all about pain and who's gonna make it
I am the game, you don't wanna play me
I am control, no way you can change me
I am heavy debt, no way you can pay me
I am the pain and I know you can't take me
Look over your shoulder, ready to run
Like a Cleveland bitch from a smoking gun
I am the game and I make the rules
So move on out here and die like a fool
Try to figure out what my move's gonna be
Come on over sucker, why don't you ask me?
Don't you forget that the price you can pay
'Cause I am the game and I want to play
It's time to play the game
Time to play the game
It's all about the game and how you play it
It's all about control and if you can take it
It's all about your debt and if you can pay it
It's all about pain and who's gonna make it
I am the game, you don't wanna play me
I am control, there's no way you can change me
I am your debt, and you know you can't pay me
I am your pain and I know you can't take me
Play the game, you're gonna be the same
You're gonna change your name
You're gonna die in flames
Time to play the game
It's time to play the game
It's time to play the game
It's time to play the game
Time to play the game
The final battle between Atriox and Yhwach takes a dark and decisive turn. As the two adversaries face each other on the destroyed battlefield of Zeta Halo, the air is saturated with the weight of desolation and defeat. Atriox, with his shattered arm at his feet, is on his knees, his gaze lost in the dust raised by his own desperate attacks. Yhwach, the Quincy King, remains imposing, the manifestation of his sovereign power encircling him like a halo of vibrant darkness. "This is the end, Atriox," Yhwach proclaims, his voice as piercing as the force that now renders him invincible, the Quincy King advances, the intent to finish the battle emanating from every step, with a single movement, he hits Atriox with a wave of energy so powerful that reality itself seems to tremble. Atriox falls, his energy dwindling like a flame in the storm, Yhwach looks down at the fallen war chief, a glimpse of respect passing through his eyes. "You fought bravely, but the new era is mine to shape," he declares. With Atriox defeated, Yhwach extends his hand, absorbing the remnants of the galaxy, unifying them under his dark dominion. The Banished, now without their war chief, retreat into the shadows of history, whispering prayers for a tomorrow they know will never come, the Quincy King reigns supreme, a new order established under the impassive gaze of the ark outside of the galaxy, the balance of existence is irreparably altered, and hope is just a forgotten word in the era of Yhwach, the true monarch of the universe.
Yhwach stands unchallenged, his dominion absolute. Across the fallen universes, his will resonates, extinguishing the last embers of resistance. The era of Yhwach ushers in silence, broken only by the hollow winds that carry the echoes of his omnipotence. His reign is now eternal, a timeless empire forged in the shadows of his power.
Reminder that /hg/ is completely misanthropic and hates discussions about Halo.
Marty is a fag, by the way.
>>527998061>rain, thunderstorm and a fucking hail struckFortune pisses me. I am sorry, Perkwunos!
/hg/ in its current form has been around for 10 years, and Halo's been in a total drought for 8-9 of those. Every topic that can be discussed has been discussed, both here and in the wider community. There's nothing left to talk about and nothing to look forward to. We have nothing but the final cour of Bleach TYBW, which will surely feature an extensively rewritten ending given how little of the manga is left to adapt. That and the Hell Arc of course, which Kubo will surely return to once his duties with the anime and the next volume of Burn The Witch are finished. There's never been a better time to be a Halo fan!
Q really did a number on this place
>>527995974It's pretty easy when you can handwave lesser aim as Chief being a cut above the rest.
I want to say even Flood with the pistol in CE don't do the same damage to shields that a player would but I could be wrong, even so most human enemies would not be Spartans with both amazing aim AND the ability to quickly line up that shot.
You can also integrate fearful behaviors/roundabout tactics and instead of blowing off limbs like with Flood, just have them be noticeably bloodied and the limb work less well if at all.
Story-side there are so many options that I'd go over the post limit but you get the general starting idea. You can even make humans individually scared, but then get desperate with tactics like trying to rush you together or be unwilling to peek out and just be waiting to ambush you/get grenaded if the player saved up.
The objective is to make them fun, interesting and set apart from how Grunts and other aliens would act, rather than just be formidable enemies. Beyond this post playtesting would be needed, but reception will also depend on the context/story for such enemies existing.
The series was completed with 3 games 18 years ago. Some spin-offs were good. A new company took over and killed the franchise. The original developers documented most of their work really well and a lot of them have given interesting interviews about working on Halo in the 2000s. There is very little mystery behind the curtain after all these years. Weโve all had interesting things happen in multiplayer and campaign. The story is done. The human covenant flood war is over. The lore that matters is settled. Ask yourself this honestly: what is left to discuss in regards to Halo? Because I actually know that there is nothing left. Who actually cares that Microsoft remaking CE for the 4th time or whatever it is now? Halo discussion is spent. Itโs all reruns. Thatโs why /hg/ is mostly kept alive by anime discussion and gay porn spam.
>>528009421Would be cool if this new "remake" series follows more or less the intention for the series as of 2, then includes elements of the stuff after the Ark that Marcus and Marty have mentioned in interviews.
At least it would be if you could trust Halo Studios to do cool things with it in a way that's fit for Halo. Might just be better to get those notes/storyboards like we did some of the Halo 2 stuff a while back.
Although as for bumping the thread people can just post webms and new screenshots (or old stuff since few of us have everything from the old File Share)
>>527999137>perfected in 5elaborate???
>>528013557he meant to say Reach
>>527995491 (OP)Reach a good shit
>>528021269But... I only joined in a few years ago.
>>528021441So did i. Back then, i thought /vg/ was boring. I was wrong, it's boring now.
I'm the last Halo poster. The last non anime and gay porn poster.
>>528028358You're not alone
>>528035126Man, I hate that map.
>>528036567Fair enough. It could've been better.
>>528036698The problem is Reach's sandbox being dogshit. An Halo 3 variant might work though.
I'm so cooked. Which Halo should I play to ease or temporarily forget this feeling?
>>528036806Do you think if I tinkered with the Forge AI in Infinite it could be fun? Obviously I'd have to remake the map too. I haven't messed with the AI enough to know the quality of the experience.
Should I install and play Infinite for the first time ever?
>>528037390No. It's FOMO slop and you missed out.
>>528037390At this point, yeah. The game finally has some content. God the first couple years were so terrible. Why couldn't they release the game the way it is now.
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>>528037073I'd say Halo 2 for the OST - it really successfully takes you to another place mentally
There is also this in the meanwhile: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va_jhQf4_Bw
THE BIG
BEAUTIFUL
BANISHED
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>"the Halo 2 Magnum can't be that bad"
I was so goddamn wrong.
>>5280422012's magnum has always been trash (since the initial update) outside of meme variants built around it.
It's people that hate on 3's magnum that are retarded.
>>528042686It basically takes both complete mags to kill someone if you dual wield it. Insanity.
>>528043258>not noob comboingYou stupid or something?
>>528043440A gun should be able to stand on its own.
>>528043440that's fine but it's still better to just noob combo with a BR or Carbine
Halo infinite would have done well if it was a good game.
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>one of the coolest designs in the series
>but also one of the least useful weapons in any shooter ever
How do you fuck up a space nailgun?
>>528048601>but also one of the least useful weapons in any shooter everPlay more FPS. Especially older ones.
>>528046204Indeed, maybe just behind Reach. Maybe even better. Just launching with at least as many features.
>>528048720>Especially older onesYou mean like Quake which had a nailgun that is infinitely superior to the spiker?
>>528048720No, missile weapons are not that useful.
>>528048945>quakefag defaults to Quake
>>528048756didn't they just add grifball last week
Maybe they should try retaining developers instead of hiring a new batch of indians every six months.
>>528048969You are wrong.
>>528048601Bungie definitely could've done better but I'll accept resources being pulled away for Forge, File Share, Theater and so on.
>>528047383Nah, I like Reach ass better...
I miss the Endless Shrimp Deal
shrimp is delicious especially with shrimp cocktail sauce mmmm
if bugs taste that good I'd happily eat bugs
I bet grunt forearm tastes real good with some butter slathered all over it.
>>528052979grunts breath methane their blood is probably gasoline. that would NOT taste good.
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yummy
>>528052948it even smells bad tho...
Jackals canonically taste like chicken btw.
>>528053563really? i think it smells delicious (im half chinese)
>>528053768Make sure to marinate them properly then.
i hate chicken breast
dry, chewy, tastes like nothing
so disgusting
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>>528053768AAAAAAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE
Why are the endless depicted as an ancient sea creature
Halo is deep sea creatures.
>>528053768What does flood taste like? I bet eating the super cell gives you otherworldly gains if it doesn't contaminate you
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>play MCC with some zoomers I have been friends with for some years.
>one of them buys cosmetics an hour into playing any game he plays.
>asks how he can get cosmetics in this game.
>tell him he has to play the game.
>he is confused and does not understand.
I do not even blame megacorps for releasing games loaded with purchasable cosmetic slop anymore. The zoomers obviously want and deserve it.
I miss when you unlocked armor by completing achievements.
>>528058965The zoomers were conditioned. This is not natural behavior, someone made them that way.
I wish I could condition zoomers...
>>528061682cat ear
cat tail buttplug
cage
thigh highs
cat paws
>>528062419I have all these but dog themed. Is that okay?
>>528046204It's a mix of two things
1. People need to seriously curb their expectation of what "doing well" means for a modern Halo game. There was a thread about a week ago that did a really good job discussing this, but tl;dr people need to stop dreaming of Bungie Halo relevance. It's never going to be a flagship title again in all likelihood.
2. It needs to launch with the full breadth of expected content, including forge and a full swath of community features on day 1.
Everything else.
Unfortunately the game pass development model directly cuts against these things
>>528008931wouldn't they be yellow on his motion tracker?
>>528008931What is the context behind this image
>>527997958343 have been good at inventing new ways of giving an npc something to say. brutes throwing grunts for example needs a specific set of dialogue. it's a shame the rest of the game is shit.
>>528074664Training session.
>>528056503Now do one for the Banshee and Ghost
Marathon got cancelled as the prophecy foretold.
>>528076769sony paid 4 billion dollars for maratroon
/hg/, do you consider yourself a prophet?
>gears realoaded soon
gaylo man, come back home
there's a helicopter loitering above my house
i live in iran btw
>>528078318so whats yhwach's weakness?
MARTY THEY'RE KILLING THE IDF
bleach posting is funny for once
Aviator? Destroy that kigger and his whole family. No survivors.
bleachfags are back to being shit again
my ai is learning the character's face
soon i will never see it agian
Kill yourselves, bleachfags.
The King of the Jews can't possibly be this cute!
mobile posters will never know the power of machine learning filters
>>528083162that just seems like a lot of effort
always gets a giggle out of me when a reply to a post talking about filters gets filtered
>>528083637holy fucking MOLY
Is Sins of the Prophets good?
one thing is certain. /hg/ is an emo general.
It's falling away from me...
I'm glad this place didn't get shit up by summerfags. /v/ is unusable.
anyway, peepee poopoo
If Halo is based on Aliens, why is there no Smartgun in any of the games?
>>528086350Because Halo is Terminator and Aliens is Terminator
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Halo
>>528086971AAAAAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>528086971the midwit philosophy is out of place for a christian franchise
sarah connor chronicles was a lot better
Hey now, Let poster 3/5 have his fun
Yeah it might not be halo, but it's better rhan /pol/posting and without him the thread would be even slower
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Halo is about to be saved.
>>528091272Finally I can play the MechAssault games at greater than 5 FPS.
>>528091272Claimed by who?
>>528091481I have foreseen it.
Are you paying attention?
>>528091672Shut the fuck up, Dog.
>>528091872You're not paying attention.
>>528091865He ain't paying attention either.
Saudi Arabia is unambiguously the leading sponsor of terrorism and America is sucking its cock.
Hello Guys Welcome back.
*big sigh*
Today, we have to talk about /hg/
Was there a custom gamemode called run mexican run, and what did 343 force them to change the name to
>>528096934Maybe, but I might be thinking of something different.
A lot of gamemodes I am trying to remember.
>>528094978nobody is forced to call anything anything
It's called CE.
It's called the Magnum.
It's called Backsmack.
It's called X.
It's called Xmas.
It's called Gulf of America.
Deal with it.
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If 343 didn't ruin Halo, would the franchise still be the gaming powerhouse it once was? I ask because gaming seem to be very flavor of the month now, regardless of how good or popular they are.
Also is matchmaking in Halo MCC on Windows Game Pass completely broken?
>>528111079No, Halo was old news by around 2009. The general audience was shitfting over to CoD.
Most of the current Halo fanbase was like, 5 back then so they don't know or just blame Reach or 343i for Halo being irrelevent but I was there. The vast majority of the audience were teenage boys and MW2 was THE place to be, "gritty. serious and edgy" vs "cartoon game where you shoot comedy aliens".
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>>528111079No, you don't get more than a week of fame these days unless you're a big live service Fortnite and/or appeal to the chinese. Infinite had this week of fame despite what They would have you believe.
>>528112146People are still oblivious to the idea that a 50 billion dollar company is NOT capable of astroturfing Halo to zeitgeist in 2000.
look at all those spartan agrynas
>>528115114>that one spartan agryna that goes behijd the white lady and then gib me dats her purse
>>528111079Probably not, but maybe the campaigns would have better stories. That would be good enough for me.
>>528111079>If 343 didn't ruin Halo, would the franchise still be the gaming powerhouse it once was?No. It had already lost over 75% of its base before Reach even came out
>I ask because gaming seem to be very flavor of the month now, regardless of how good or popular they are.Not really, the top games have been the same for the last few years.
>Also is matchmaking in Halo MCC on Windows Game Pass completely broken?It's not "completely" broken but like all things MCC it's busted.
For as many anti-racism statements Bungie have made over the years they did also say this
>for every seven cool people you meet online, there's one idiot
and then made almost all their playlists eight players or more.
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>>528091272Halo, it's finished.
master chief, you mind tellin me why you're jackin off to other dudes on /trash/
>>528137924Why would they use Xenia when they have their own emulators? Immediately false.
>>528138667"other dudes" and it's just the arbiter
i'm 5'8 and want a halo bf
>>528137924>PC>Saving HaloLol
Lmao even
>>528142431Reach is fine
>>528111079>>528112146>>528129360I think you have a point of Halo losing players to COD before Reach came out. People in this thread love to blame Bungie and 343 for destroying Halo from Reach onwards. But maybe COD had already pulled away many players before Reach even made any changes to the series.
If Halo wants to be successful again it needs to appeal to a mainstream audience - people who might play COD, or Rainbow Six, or Apex, etc. Halo should still be a sci-fi FPS game with the same backstory, but it might need to make gameplay changes. If a series doesn't innovate then gamers get bored and they move elsewhere.
>>528048601It's possible they were worried about it being too powerful as such a common campaign weapon. I can't explain why the melee only did 2 extra damage.
It's alright in ODST because it kept the melee damage while everything else was nerfed.
I have no fucking idea what they were thinking for Reach. Why does it do extra shield damage?
>>528143407>Reach is fineuh oh, someone doesn't know about the Fall of 2552
>>528148190>I think you have a point of Halo losing players to COD before Reach came out. People in this thread love to blame Bungie and 343 for destroying Halo from Reach onwardsBoth things can be true.
The core base is what was hurt more by 343's offerings.
But the masses were always going to leave either way. Halo being as big as it was is mostly due to a lack of competition.
>>528151693>I can't explain why the melee only did 2 extra damage.The Brute Shot's bayonet deals 20 more damage. My guess is either they forgot the additional zero for the Spiker and the Mauler or they found the 90 blade damage to be overpowered for these guns, and they just removed one zero to call it a day.
>>528148190Not enough individual power. Halo 2's BR reduced individual power and the franchise has stuck with that design style for every game since. The games you listed give more moments individual power than Halo typically does.
>>528155953>My guess is either they forgot the additional zero for the Spiker and the MaulerIt's not a multiplier, it's a completely different damage type. It's possible regular melee was much weaker prior to the final game, and they just neglected to change the damage on the Spiker and Mauler. I'd have to find Halo 3 alpha and beta maps to see for sure.
>>528156931It was a common complaint from CoD players late in the 360's lifespan that people died way too slowly in Halo.
>>528155953>>528157070I downloaded the beta, and melee did in fact get buffed between then and release(65 in the beta, 70 in final), but the Spiker used regular melee damage.
>>528091272>>528137924>xenia making deals with M$Time to move to another project morons
>>528157224Casual players can turn 2v1 situations around much easier in a way they struggle to in Halo. The killtimes play a part in that.
>>528159468It's very difficult to turn around a 2v1 in Halo even if you're good.
>>528159587It's easier in Halo 1 because the gap between average and optimal kill time makes encounters more dynamic though still difficult. Halo 2 BR narrows that gap a lot so fights are harder to turn around.
>>528086350I wonder what a game mode where every weapon hits dead center if you pace your shots well and can headshot would be like. I guess if SWAT is fun then that would be too.
Might end up with people primarily doing single-fire instead of full-auto ever, but as a side-mode for pure fun it'd be cool if machine guns could actually headshot during full-auto.
>>528111079>game where anyone can get a kill with a single well-placed shot on most weaponsvs
>game where you mostly have to fight past energy shieldsIt's not a surprise that option 1 would be more popular with people drained of energy after school/work, once it hit a certain level of quality.
This is just all the more reason to let Halo be Halo and not some vehicle for chasing trends to the point of putting what's proven and beloved to the side. Same thing applies for everything that can't best a pretty good Halo game (relative to the technology available).
Was everything supposed to try and be like Halo when it was #1? No. That's a good thing. Many Halo fans who grew up with the trilogy were glad to have games that took them to other worlds, had less budget and focused on single-player rather than multiplayer.
Executives, shills and bootlickers always say Halo needs to become some abomination to compete, then it fails and THEN they go "oh it's fine for Halo to not be #1". It's a nonsensical trend that needs to stop.
>>528111079Halo took more skill than Cod so normies flocked to Cod unironically.
Halo died because it was the "kiddy colorful game" while CoD was the "mature game for mature gamers like me".
Everything else is cope and revisionism.
battlefield was 'more mature' than cod.
Arma was 'more mature' than all of them.
Halo died because they started making bad games.
Everything else is revisionist history created by people who were not alive when bungie was making Halo.
>>528163313You weren't there.
>>528083162You can use the built in filter system thoโฆ
>>528163513You weren't alive.
>>528163659Stop projecting. You weren't there.
>>528163659You were (and still are) a NIGGER.
>>528163313this is true
cod was the adhd teen game of running and shooting around every corner
battlefield was more strategic and deliberate with vehicles and large scale battles
it also had a bigger PC base at the time (kids didnt play on pc back then)
>>528165330cod was the de facto "mature game that mainly children played."
>>528159468I love those fights where you're so on-point for a moment you manage to turn around a 3v1
Granted it wasn't pure skill - enemy both got cocky/impatient and was not used to tracking someone strafing on a very steep hill
Last but not least: we all had the CE pistol
higher kill time=higher skill floor/ceiling.
>>528166195higher kill time = console shooter
>>528166395cringe thobeit
who wants to cuddle and couch coop the original trilogy on the original consoles
we can use the trinitron too :3
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>>528166195Basically. Anyway, almost nothing stays #1 forever and almost no one at Microsoft thought Halo would be as big as it was anyway.
Both then and now, I just want a fairly good new Halo. Microsoft just keeps over-complicating the path to getting there by prioritizing the wrong stuff.
I wouldn't even mind a Halo where everything is suddenly more realistic in terms of weapon behavior, but doing so is an even more complex task.
It can also just be a set of modifiers on the side, even as skulls and customs progressed despite not being strictly necessary features.
>>528166629just dm yeezeid or stock5000 on discord
>>528166782The game they're talking about is Azurik. Microsoft were blown away by it and thought it was going to be the Xbox's big game. In the end Halo and Dead or Alive 3 were the big early titles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr0KJgsNTFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkCYcN_l24A
>>528166195Why does it result in a higher skill ceiling?
>>528167649Admittedly, I have an edit without Azurik just for times when I want to keep the discussion a bit more focused on Halo. 'Course it sometimes helps to use the unedited version as a reference for how off the opinion of higher-ups can be.
Mind, even the best Halo possible with 2025 tech would have to contend with the fact that Halo's reputation has to be earned anew. Or so I am prepared to see. With how much people have remained wanting a respectable new Halo since 3, plus how charmed people were by Halo's blend of themes in 2001, reception to a reasonably good new one might surprise me.
>>528167740You have to aim and make sure your target dies. Your enemy has plenty of tools to run away or reverse the encounter.
>>528168501I really don't think Microsoft care about building Halo anymore. Call of Duty is their money FPS franchise now. Halo is getting a shitty remake to exploit the name. id and MachineGames are making original titles so that's where they want to win the fans Call of Duty misses.
>>528169072You have to aim regardless. Having more time to make decisions and react creates a lower-skill game. If there is no meaningful way to gain the upper hand in a fight, it's going to become a game of who sees who first no matter what. There needs to be a large gap between the fastest possible kill time the average one.
>>528169337>Having more time to make decisions and react creates a lower-skill game.Elaborate.
>If there is no meaningful way to gain the upper hand in a fightWhat are first shots, head shots, having a power weapon, having a better position, having a teammate, etc.
We've been through this before, and your pedantic ass won't accept any answers.
A halo player will always beat a cod player of similar skill.
>>528169309It's true that they could entirely shelve Halo before tapping into its potential.
Even that is weird and sad because a lot of the muck-ups involved putting effort into adding stuff people weren't asking for anyway.
Like they punched holes in the ship and now are just letting it sink as if the outcome was inevitable instead of entirely avoidable.
>>528169781>Elaborate.Less time to make decisions rewards people who are able to do so quickly.
>What are first shotsI thought you people defended long TTKs because it means the first shot doesn't always win.
>head shotsSomething you're going to be doing no matter what because headshot weapons are always the best.
>having a power weaponThat's the opposite of a long TTK.
>having a better positionDoesn't matter when you can just walk away from a fight.
>having a teammateBad game design when you need to always have a partner to focus fire on anyone.
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>>528167649AAA was a mistake; glad we're going back to the creative innovative age since graphic hit diminishing returns. Realism was always garbage.
>>528169309>I really don't think Microsoft care about building Halo anymoreThat's honestly a good thing
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>>528173508He could have moved.
What does bleach have to do with Halo
>>528176021Nothing, it's just spammers.
>>528113056I mean, yeah, you have a valid explanation for that.
>>528176021I don't know what you are talking about. T B H, get better at filtering.
>>528176021They're both about religion.
>>528162617>Halo took more skill than Cod so normies flocked to Cod unironically.that's... mostly true
But another part of it is that regardless of how much skill cod4 took, it pretty much hooked people on a constant short term dopamine addiction of constant unlocks. You can lose CoD4 (and onwards) games and not get pissed off as long as you unlocked something or leveld up.
>>528179305this
It contributed to people quitting out of halo games more often when they go down double digits
https://x.com/Halo/status/1936122240594071871
>>528180370Halo 7 just dropped
>>528180370>novel.>nuhalo novel.
Halo: A Master Chief Story.
>>528180370>Your new game was actually an ad for a book all alongkek
>>528163574underpowered and no longer against the rules to evade
>>528180370>Master Chief's armor scars are missingInteresting
>>528173508>>528173771his controller disconnected
/hg/ gegnas boutta play halo coop again
>>528180370remember when people were saying there'd be campaign DLC that expands and continues the story?
remember the 10 year plan?
remember when people said infinite was a foundation for future stories to tell?
laughing
my
fucking
ass
off
cant wait for halo 7 to start and no one knowing what the fuck happened between halo infinite and it
343 is so fucking incompetent it's insane
>>528181850I wanna play coop too.
>>528182007full lobby
gt? maybe we can play next time
Does baza play with the uh...gegnas?
Baza isn't paying attention.
Gabthelazy is paying attention.
>>528183417Okay, here's my real gt: the game.
It's time to play with the game...
>>528183630Sorry bro, your already lost.
I have the "D" Schrift for "The Diabetes"
>>528183630>>528183963/hg/ is an emo general
>>528184240Where's the gameplay, Halo Studios?
CEmake is a game about time travel.
Atriox is harnessing the endless to go back and change the timeline. There are two Master Chiefs. One from the future, one from CE.
>>528184484Ultimate Firefight is canon? Damn.
>>528184484Is one of the Master Chiefs the one from the universe where humans are forerunners?
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Every aspect of Halo Wars 2 is an abomination and I'm tired of people pretending that it's somehow better than 343's other slop.
>>528184901Nobody says that because nobody played halo wars 2.
cus i'd rather play mcc than nothing at all
IT'S FRIDAY
FRIDAY
GOTTA GET DOWN ON FRIDAY
EVERYBODY'S LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
WEEKEND
WEEKEND
>>528184901Not looking to argue but for my notes could you explain your thoughts? If it won't bore you to death doing so, that is.
>>528185606I've never seen a dead enemy land in a sitting position quite like that where it almost seems hurt but alive
>>528186421I've seen it happen plenty of time with Elites in other games.
>>528186541I guess I need to be more observant
Amusingly this popped up in my file search but I've still never been aware of it in my own game sessions
>>528184901I will stand by that 343 should have had the banished be the enemy aliens in halo 4/5 because having, "The Covenant but not," was lame.
They should have done a lot different, but it is a start.
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>>528190000@Grok, is that true?
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>>528186253>story is terrible, managing to invalidate the end of Halo 3 even more than 4 did and only existing to setup Infinite>characters, base structures, and units re-designed for no reason instead of just graphically upgraded>Serina sudokus herself off-screen in the intro because muh rampancy only to be conveniently replaced with another, more rampant, extremely annoying, and much uglier AI>spartans job to Atriox like they've never fought brutes before>retarded 343 shit like the the condor and mantis is suddenly available to the Spirit of Fire>"""boss fights""">almost complete removal of the gameplay asymmetry between the UNSC and (not)Covenant>over-emphasis on leader powers >multiplayer maps lazily scale their bounds in and out for different player counts instead of being designed for them>gay p2w card game>leader DLCs>that DLC that further invalidates Halo 3 by having High Charity mostly intact and the Flood still aliveI can't think of anything genuinely positive to say about it that isn't completely trivial.
>>528163313Wrong. 343's games have actually been good. People just whine because there are some changes, but there were changes across Bungie's games too. Also people are far too sensitive about whether a feature has previously been in COD or not. Who cares. What matters is whether the resulting game is fun - it doesn't matter if a feature was previously used in COD.
>>528163313battlefield was just as capeshit as cod but it had more character oriented dialogue rather than plot oriented dialogue
I will not reply to objectively wrong information.
play gaylo with me? :3c
https://litter.catbox.moe/zq4v4r5fd6zs9hp1.mov
>>528191963my federal agents are coming for you...
infinite co-op and TYBW with yeeze
one of the gegnas was consumed by the storm
mogadishu?
>>528193462sounds like a waste
yeeze is a big fat mistake
yeeze is waste, fraud, and abuse
waste...fraud...and abuse!
yeeze is the weakest regular in this thread by far.
he has the strongest aura tho
people who put in the time to enjoy and be good at shitfinite belong in a bottomless pit
how can you put bottoms in a bottomless pit?
>>528196172you've done her.
>>528196009she's done you.
stop bullying yeezel weasel
>>528196172what does that have to do with shitfinite players?
>>528197241me and the boys playing infinite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX5O3n9K_d0
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>>528197575>top comment is a mexican
>>528190000Hits different knowing they killed off Cortana. Not that it's beyond them to retcon that.
Whatever happens I'm glad I know of this place now. It was funny to look in the archives and see the reactions to 4's first teaser.
>>528190469I definitely hadn't thought of some of those aspects before, so thank you. I guess when HW2 came out I wasn't even sure there'd be a future beyond that so I didn't give it much thought in general.
https://youtu.be/aTrE-5mdcYE?si=fPhSOfP5_lXWXMSQ
I made a halo song with a couple different ai, we're living the dream bros . . .. .
>>528197575https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1T-1Hl0NH0
>>528198081gay as fuck
put a white man in it and make it metal
>>528198236It's supposed to be like Cortana or Serina. I thought us gamers liked anime here.
>>528198682PUT A WHITE MAN IN IT AND MAKE IT METAL
>>528198895UNDERSTOOD SARGENT
pwease...abuse mweeeeh :3
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>*POUNDS DESK*
All UNSC personnel on Zeta Halo's ear drums pop
>JJJJJJEEEEEEGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAA
All hobbit holes on the ring are collapsed and buried from aftershocks
>PUT A YEEZEL IN IT
All propaganda towers in are short circuited
>AND MAKE HER GAY AND LAME
Silence fills the house of reckoning
>>528200390bro just link to the gallery you're stealing them from
>>528200497NTA but it's a lot better than the general consisting solely of reposted off-topic anime webms.
So if dead quincies get absorbed back into YHWH does that mean he has gigi's memories of dressing like a girl and raping shotas?
>>528200963>>528201185why did she rip his head off
>>528200963It's worse than off topic shit
there's no shitposting or ideas being shared
it's just a meaningless image
the very definition of slop
and you're spending so much time doing it
you could be doing anything else
>>528201481they call it deracination here for some reason
>>528201481*cums in my hand and throws it at you like spiderman*
AND THEY SAY THAT A HERO CAN SAVE US
I'M NOT GONNA STAND HERE AND WAIT
I HOLD ON TO THE WINGS OF THE EAGLE
WATCH AS WE ALL FLY AWAY
>>528201454She got a virus and turned into Eviltana
The Almighty foresaw this.
at least baza's screenshots were oc
we've seen all those pics on bungie.net decades ago
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>>528202661holy FUCK that tana is peak
>>528202661from a distance it looks like she has freckles there
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hello brudda do u no were de banished fortress be? mi gwan take de bibi ting and urt dey gwangwan ya feel mi?
>>528204476anyone willing to translate french pidgin to english?thanks
>>528200634Man I love the Ark. It just had everything I could want from Halo. All in one mission. Just a beautiful, content-filled package.
>>528204476i feel you gegna
unfortunately i don't got the details
we all mogadishu from here on out
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>>528204476Halo Infinite would have done well if she was an attractive White woman.
>>528206403Echo 419 my beloved.
>>528206946I won't be buying CE remake if she doesn't say "hey suga" with the most stereotypical african american accent on earth
>>528206921halo 4 did that and it bombed HARD
but not as hard as shitfinite lmao
>>528207186I said an attractive White woman.
>>528207283my bad, didn't realise you had shit taste
>>528207283Silence, homosexual.
>>528207492it's a shame she's a loathsome cunt underneath that smoking hot surface
>>528207671>makes a cute, somewhat flirty joke about chief being shorter than she thought>her image is now forever marred by manchildren
>>528207881I hate her for how she behaves in the first half of Spartan Ops.
>>528207492>br*wn eyes. Not White.
>>528208242Whiter than you, Ivan Ivanovich.
>more halo discussion in the 'cord than the general
It's over.
>>528211925looks like it was rendered in 1996
well i lost my halo coop partner
i only need 3 and 4 LASO cheevos left, anyone?
https://youtu.be/HOtj1GM7iv4
>>528200497The gallery is my drive but they're definitely not all shots I took
Although speaking of galleries Commorancy has a nice Halo gallery of shots taken
>>528205287The Ark portions of this video are pretty nice
Anyone who uses wallpaper engine or similar might be able to take some of the footage and use it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4VZ7w31nlg
>>528207881It was just extra cringe on top of not having her helmet on
Her helmet is actually cool and seeing her without could've waited for aboard the Infinity
so i herd you liek mudkipz
>>528207881midwit moment
nobody gave a shit about her until shartan ops
Master Chief represents toxic masculinity
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They're gonna clean up your looks
With all the lies in the books
To make a citizen out of you
Masterchief represents positive masculinity. (Bungie era)
343 twisted and corrupted it in their era, treating it as if it was toxic masculinity. They were wrong then, and they are wrong now.
Master Chief represents my drunken abusive father
>>528220854Masterchief does not consume alcohol.
It sucks that to hide the halo online garbage you have to hide the backpacks and vehicle skins
there's a lot of really cool stuff
does it still disable the katana?
Ancient Humans infected a large portion of their population with a genetically modified version of the Flood and upon the Flood infecting itself, they self destructed and retreated from the galaxy.
>Develop a serum that deactivates the Flood Supercell and restores the body to its original configuration and bodily function. Upon closer inspection they are still the Flood. Develop nanobots that latch onto each cell to keep the Flood Supercells at bay. Not a cure to the Flood, but a treatment
should just add any mention of 'ancient humans' to the filters
nothing positive comes from their discussion
>>528223353Cope Harder Bungie Loyalist
>>528223547even 343 doesn't give a shit about any of that
the most cucked thing in the world is giving more of a shit about 343's shit lore than 343 does
>>528223524why would you filter forerunners?
>>528223547>Three shit books that had practically zero influence on the games>Five great gamesHmm, I wonder which one I should prefer...
>>528223981Language is important. There is already a word to describe that; forerunner. So use that or be filtered. I suggest you don't let subversives ease you into their web where up is down and men are women.
Okay but if humans are foreskinners how do you explain black people? Like did they actually evolve seperately on whatever planet they were originally from and were planted on Earth with the normal people or did the evolution happen on Earth? But if evolution happened on Earth how does fartrunner tech know to respond to humans because they could have changed in any number of unpredictable ways. Actually does 4header tech even respond to black people? We never see Johnson by himself interacting with stuff on Halo, which is surprising because I'm sure he could find shit a lot more valuable than copper wire in it. Actually he probably would never realize that, so nevermind.
What I am asking is is 343 a racist and is that why he buckbroke Johnson with his ghettoblaster beam?
>>528224315>Five great gamesI'm not sure why you are listing Marathon and Myth with Halo games?
>>528179305Also being good at CoD felt better than being good at Halo. Jeff saying something stupid sounding vs getting an AC-130, chopper gunner or even a game ending nuke.
It's not hard to guess which causes a dopamine response.
>>528228647>We never see Johnson by himself interacting with stuff on HaloHe literally activates the Ark.
>>528235759i know you're trying to hurt but your post made me laugh the way you said it
oh my gosh I just wanna play halo wtf is this
JUST LET ME FUCKING PLAY WITH MY STEAM ACCOUNT I FUCKING HATE XBOX SIGN IN SHIT IT NEVER FUCKING WORKS
buying hฬถaฬถlฬถoฬถ ฬถbฬถfฬถ coop buddy for achievement hunting
>>528236568it's an issue with the Steam version. you have to mess with the registry or something, bing it queen.
>>528237196We know, Baza.
>>528239360I guess some kind of explanation is in order. This is JingleBaza
>>528237196, a new ancient evil revealed near the end of the first Halo Infinite single player campaign titled "Become". JingleBaza is a species of alien imprisoned on the European continent (arabic colony) by the Forerunners. On the continent is a location known as "The Silent Auditorium" in which The Forerunners would pass judgement on europoors before their rape. JingleBaza as we know it is similar in appearance to those of the Cambrian Explosion approximately 541 million years ago on our own planet Earth. Pure speculation at this point, but this may be a new hint connecting Humans and Europeans in the Halo series. Anyway, the only remaining member of europoors that we know about is The Baza, who joins a faction of former Covenant known as The Jews, lead of course by the Brute Jew Master known as O'Donnelltriox. She does so with the secret plan to use The Jews and their hold on the arabic world to free her people from their ancient imprisonment and unleash them upon the unknowing Halofest. If you want to learn more about JingleBaza and what happens next in her story, you can find out soon when Halo CE Remake releases on Xbox Series consoles, Steam, and Windows platforms as well as releasing day one on Xbox Game Pass and Xbox Game Pass PC. If you wanna talk about this more you can add me at GT: YeezeID, I'll send you an invite to my private discord server where we can continue this discussion. Y'know, just us. Haha if that's alright of course...
>Xbox Cloud streaming finally has a higher bitrate and good image quality, and controller rumble on Android devices
Took them way too long but for fuck's sake, finally Xbox did something right.
Of course it would be better if they streamed you Series X versions of games instead of Series S ones, but still, as long as a Series S game can do 60fps it's a pretty decent experience now
>>528236876Custom Edition never made you sign in. And you didn't even need a launcher (Steam) running to play it. Custom Edition even had mod support in the server browser. Praise be to Custom Edition.
Custom Edition (CE) is NOT Halo
Es Hรกlรณ.
you know for a dead game i was able to get a big team battle match in like 30 seconds at 1AM. thats pretty good.
i dont see a single bot
unless you're saying 343 disguises bots as real players, which they dont do since when they do put in bots they start with "343" in their name
>>528242612Anon... Your print screen key...
Atriox is going to be killed off in a book.
They should soft-reboot Halo by making Halo Wars 3 where the Spirit of Fire captures an Endless and uses it to time travel back to before they blew up the shield world where they self-destruct into the the sun so their past selves (including Forge) can escape with their FTL drive and become a prominent asset in the war. Forge becomes a Spartan III who ends up going to Halo with Chief, and the presence of the Spirit of Fire at Reach allows for many more Spartans to escape and defend Earth during 2 and 3. Basically they can do le ebin superhero Spartan teamups for capeshit fags in BASED Bungie's original trilogy setting. Maximum $$$.
is yeeze okay?
he's been sitting in the halo infinite menu for over 6 hours
how can he be bot if hes above?
>Playing Halo Wars at 3AM
>Only other guy on is a recruit on a steam deck
>Play a normal 1v1 with him and it's way too unfair; he never destroys a single expo, entirely one-sided
>Decide to make it fair by going all wraiths and set it to Fort Deen so he has a larger map to get more resources
>HOLY
>FUCKING
>SHIT
>Match lasts over an hour of me just spamming wraiths
>First he goes scorpions and actually manages to destroy an expo of mine that I built on his side of the map
>After my wraiths counter-attack and destroy his expo he switched to infantry for some reason
>Just keeps spamming marines; endlessly
>Whittle away at them with my wraiths until I see an opening to destroy his barracks (he's not even Forge) then destroy the base
>Do this twice
>He ends up resigning due to getting too tired (5AM)
>Get the achievement for 20,000 points in a skirmish game
I started feeling bad for his marines. It was like something out of WWI.
Is it more human to curb stomp new players, or to drag on the match forever by restricting yourself to bad units?
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>>528256030>Squads built (lost)>WRAITH: 86 (73)>Squads killed>MARINE: 287>CYCLOPS: 30>SCORPION: 45>SPARTAN: 14
We call them Ancient Humans actually.
>>528259993kek
fair enough
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>343 lorefags
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All this to block one guy lol
>terminated
Added to the filter.
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me filtering shit i don't like
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I've finally decided to give it a go, it's nice so far.
>>528265886got them halo reach shoulders
>>528266154Now that you mention it-
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>>528148190What if the only innovation we make to Halo is not gameplay but just shoving a shitload of sandboxy, arcadey shooty content out the gate. This is Halo. On a 12v12 BTB size map with warthogs Banshee Elephants just fucking take all this noticeably Halo IPs and be happy already
It's funny how backwards Splitgate 2 got it.
Three teams of eight doesn't make a difference to most people compared to standard big team modes. Wasted effort for nothing.
Eight teams of three has more upsides. Still chaotic like big team, easier to get teams together, players quitting doesn't compromise the game as much, limits the abilities each team has access too, more chaotic objective pushes, etc.
Splitgate 2 sucks on every level.
>DUDE! I hate COD!
>DUDE! Member halo?
>DUDE! Where Titanfall 3?!
>Art style copies Overwatch
>Doesnโt include Campaign
>At least it got a decent map editor
>But Makes the focus of the game a battle royale mode instead.
Why did they try too market the game too the Xbox 360 military shooter audience and not include core elements from that era in their game?
>>528278025If they copied Overwatch's art the game could've had a chance. It's just a very ugly game. With poorly thought out gameplay. Worse maps. Boring weapons. Horrible microtransaction bullshit. Abandoned what the audience of the first game liked.
>>528279017>It's just a very ugly game. yeah
>With poorly thought out gameplay. nah, it's fun
>Worse mapsthe maps are fine
>Boring weaponsthe weapons are actually alright
>Horrible microtransaction bullshit.true.
>Abandoned what the audience of the first game liked.it's more popular than the first game
have you actually played it?
wtf
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yeeze is NOT okay
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>>528276743For me, it's the $80 cosmetics.
They deserve to have their company gutted.
>>528289158I'm confused. Does the cosmetic give players an advantage?
>>528285475If you just want to make the popularity argument then Splitgate 1 peaked 2.6x higher than Splitgate 2. The weapons are perfectly serviceable but there's nothing that makes me think "I want play Splitgate for this weapon" in other words boring.
echidna should do only fans
split gate doesn't even have vehicles
>>528086350Imagine mowing down Covies with this thing though...
>meme artist knows how to play Tsavo Highway
>/hg/ still can't
>>528290848>echidna should do only fansshe's already ruled it out on stream last month
That being said it's pretty clear she doesn't have much interest in Halo anymore. She rarely plays it and when she does seems to be getting tired of the forced high pitched cutesy voice overreacting to every kill or death.
>>528284139I actually have no idea who this is. Is this from halo 4?
this general is in a sad state
>>528300193When Bleachposter switches to Inuyasha things will improve.
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Why don't we make collages anymore?
>>528306207last one was fake
no one contributes anymore
>>528303352inuyasha was a big part of my childhood and shaped my sexuality
>>528306207He was trying to make a montage but even though people are clearly making new webms, nobody sent any to him...
>>528293324AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>528306846>peopleThat's like two """Anons""".
I know, because I'm one of them.
>>528307454Do you consider yourself a prophet, anon?
>>528307454As somebody who plays coop with /hg/ anons regularly, I can tell you there are only one posters.
>>528307743>regularlyAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>528307661too soon brother
>>528307743Anon, that's because I'm not invited.
>>52830673010 years earlier and it would've been Ranma shaping your sexuality.
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>>527995491 (OP)JingleBaza here. (real)
Anyone down for Halo MCC multiplayer or coop should message me on xbox or add me on steam.
Any time zone.
If your NAT type isn't open, you won't be hosting.
could swear i've posted that image before
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It's an older code but it checks out
jingle baza?
more like jingle baka!
Fuuckk!!!!!!!!!! Just lost my nine hour edge streak ffffuucckk dude FFFFFuuckkkkkkkkkk..........
>>528263614Based Ultimate Firefight Screenshot enjoyer.
>>528311810Surprised you lasted that long against Cortana. She's a formidable foe.
Thread theme:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6DdRv6NIyY
>>528293324>/hg/ still can'tNot so fast.
>>528313639i look like this
>>528315001>he went right>he conquered the basinI-i...
I d-don't know what to say...
>>528306207theres a new one at 2000 thats a list like 1000
we will soon see who is real around here and who is fake
Except by "soon" I mean probably early 2026
>>528315001this mission is so boring compared to CE and 2 vehicles missions
You basically have to go out of your way to engage in any real combat
>>528316864Filtered and vetoed, all at once.
>>528313639sometimes i need to band aid my nipples on long runs >_<
>>528317174i wanna kiss them
>>528316764i kind of regret not joining 1000 but i also didn't want to list myself as if i wanted to play Halo with any of you
i was in 1100 anyway so it's whatever
>>528317342thats what I mean.
If we were at 2000 right now the list would have like 10 people on it and half would probably still be lying
>>528317310um no, that would hurt a lot anon
chafing is a serious issue
>>528317678can i massage them?
>>528318115any form of friction hurts anon ;_; give it a couple days
>>528288921today's record :')
https://youtu.be/POK_PEgGVLI
I think someone needs to do a wellness check on our boy Yeeze.
that guy supported q shitting up the thread for months
i don't care if he runs himself into an early grave
>>528329108I've not seen you talking about Halo once.
>>528329219i've been rangebanned on my home isp for years
reason being why i fell off
not much for discussion but hosting or joining lobbies yesh
>>528329504and it was a rangeban for REPORTING off-topic posts
janitors must've hated me
should've used the filters, tranny janny
>>528329504we know, that's why you have so many proxies
>>528328334>18h on marathonAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>528328334you'll be alright
>>528329692you were rangebanned because someone in your IP range was probably spamming shit on some other board
You guys really need to treat each other better.
>>528331676possibly but oh well
>>528331848I will when they start posting Halo on the goddamn Halo General, also known as /hg/.
>>528331848need is a strong word anon
what's in it for me to show these turbo degenerates anything other than contempt? how am i supposed to find decent people if i don't call out cringelords for their faggotry? genuinely the best people i've ever met were attracted to me for my willingness to speak truth to power. and what better place to do it than an anonymous image board? there's literally no consequence.
>>528331864if the jannies wanted to ban you specifically, they would have banned your IP. next time just go on irc and ask the mods what happened and they'll likely just free your IP address.
>>528332420>using IRCWhat the fuck is this?
1994?
>>528332350You're talking to me like im not one of the turbo gay faggot degenerates lol
>>528332590yes
it filters retards
>>528332628what difference does it make? you'd feel just as amused if i didn't. you obviously revel in the humiliation of it. somehow your brain has turned negative attention into positive stimuli. the small part of you that worries about your future happiness is always listening. maybe it'll save you. makes no difference to me.
>>528333269holy projection
It's so easy to rile you all up.
>>528328902i dont remember q doing anything other than posted gore
q(ueue) on halo infinite ranked
Why is some fag asking me for elite erp on steam?
>>528334770indulge him, cmon
>>527995491 (OP)BREAKING HALO NEWS: 343 balllicker who was born in 1999 and has a Ukraine flag in bio establishes Bungie Halo was NEVER good (he was in elementary school)
>>528334820I'm going to bed but I'll tell him I'll be on in an hour.
someone posted his name on /v/ again didn't they
you'll be sorry when he gets to experience elite erp kino and you're just sitting at your desk
imagine not having a standing desk in 2025 lmao
>>528335939everything you need to know is in the post
if you want more, ask xim yourself
how deep of a toadline bully lineage do you need to create spartan agryna?
>>528336249Kill yourself twitterfag
>>528338980Kill yourself discordfag
YOU'RE GONNA DIE FOR ISRAEL MUTTS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>528339871This was the real 10 year plan.
>>528341021iraq was the beta test
>>528335293The statement made in that tweet is not false
Halo was lightning in a bottle
>>528339871It's a nothingburger schizo
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Halo has been played.
>>528344713>CEANot Halo.
Why the fuck did they make Johnson look like black Mario?
guys halp my meds aren't working :(
>>528345479go out for a walk
>>528345952i already do like 40k steps a day anon
>>528346083go people watch
>>528346306watching people do their day to day life helps ground my own experiences
>>528346458you're right, maybe i'll try that
thx anon
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>>528346658https://youtu.be/NJuSStkIZBg
also stop listening to sad music it just feeds into it
Im new to Halo and haven't read any books but, were the spartans created to fight the Covenant? Or where they trying to do something else?
>>528348392They were created to fight insurrectionist Humans. They didn't even have shields back then.
>>528348546And they created up to 3 gens?
>>528348705First gen was a revival of a much earlier super soldier test that failed, and they were retroactively named Spartan-I's. Sgt Johnson is one of these.
Spartan-II's were created to fight insurrectionists initionally. They did a few missions against them until the Covenant came around.
Spartan-II's were extremely expensive, and halsey was overly picky when it came to picking candidates. Spartan-III's were made to be cheap and expendable super soldiers that ONI could throw at a problem and get guaranteed results. They usually all died on their missions, and they did not have MJOLNIR armor like Spartan-II's or Noble team. They usually had what was essentially stealth armor that had no energy shielding.
man i wish i were home to play halo 2
it really was the golden era of gaming
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The 343 Cycle:
1) Release half-baked plot
2) Get criticized
3) Panic, wrap up game's story in book so they can restart with next installment
4) Cobble together a new, half-baked plot
5) Release half-baked plot
6) Repeat
>>528335293Remember when they fucked around during Halo 2's production and had to rush and cram a product in a few months? Remember when Halo 3 locked playlists when you don't buy DLC? Remember when Vidmaster Challenges for Recon include ODST, so no Recon without ODST unless you're some employee or content maker they gifted? Remember when they locked the last map pack behind ODST, so buy another $40-60 if you don't want to be locked out of playlists for months? Remember Reach's slow as a snail progression system?
>>528335293>>528341971>>528351317NOOO BUNGIE WAS FLAWLESS THE SERIES DIDN'T GO TO SHIT UNTIL 4 I MEAN I WAS TOO YOUNG TO PLAY THEM AT THE TIME BUT MY FAVORITE YOUTUBER SAID THEY WERE REVOLUTIONARY MASTERPIECES LITERALLY INVENTED THE CONTROLLER
>>528351317>>528351928this makes 343/HS all the more hilarious.
Despite all bungie's HUGE flaws, 343 somehow looks so much worse. It's crazy.
>>528351317>a rushed bungie halo still is better and still has more to do than half a billion dollar 343 halo. Also, all that jew stuff was probably microsoft's doing. Same company that wanted to charge for all xbox cs:go updates.
>>528351317I still remember how fuck awful ODST was
>3-hour campaign>flashbacks are meaningless>none of the characters are interesting>who cares about Buck and Dare's relationship, what is this a soap opera>boring>plays no different from Halo 3 except gimping the player>adds nothing to Halo but a Gears of War Horde mode>has nothing else to offer>open city is empty after Sadie's story>not really non-linear since the missions are set in a linear fashion>too dark to see shit>film grain>bloom lighting turned to 11>animations in cutscenes are not as good as Halo 2 and 3's>inconsistent with the Halo trilogy>Microsoft overpriced it>Bungie locked Halo 3's final maps on it>Bungie locked Recon on itThere's a lot to not like about ODST
And don't get me started on Reach.
>>528353941>was probably microsoft's doingBungie were the ones who suggested adding microtransactions to Destiny. Not Activision.
>>528354689Dont forget releasing the same year as Wars, so soon after 3 and just before Reach. Halo games releasing so frequently and at a massive dip in quality for the same price ruined what made the series special to most.
>>528354689>too dark to see shitget your eyes checked
You let them get the fucking warthog?
The Soul Society CANNOT be allowed to have a Bankai.
What's the least shit ODST rebalance mod?
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>>528358395It's only because of things like this that I can't bring myself to hate burgerland.
Halo infinite is pretty fun
boypilled left the discord
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The Mythic overhaul is the SPV3 of Halo 3 ODST mod, holy shit.
>>528360212what did you do to her
boypilled was like a freakin brother to me man
Am I crazy or did 343 never add any new vehicles to the franchise other than that fighter jet and mech in 4?
Wow. The adults are in charge.
Thank God.
remember when halo tubers tried to gaslight everyone into believing the razorback was a new vehicle?
>>528362565Why doesn't he move to Israel? Maybe he should write music in support of Israel too.
>>528335293I went and had a look at this post and the responses to it are way more full of shit than his post (which is actually fairly close to the truth).
Halo 1 was a complete stroke of luck that it was a success, Halo 2 was shambolic and the MP was in fact, the result of Max being in the right place while the rest of them fucked about with "warzone" as the MP.
Halo 3 is mid as fuck, carried by the hype campaign and the MP formula was worked out in 3 so they already knew what to do there. ODST was a lazy asset flip and Reach was trend chasing crap that wiped out a large portion of the dwilding Halo core playerbase because MW2 devoured the rest.
Ya'll do anything to avoid blaming 343 for their failures.
>>528367024If people are still here after the series died over a decade ago, they are a 343 loyalist for life.
>>528366596>the result of Max being in the right place while the rest of them fucked about with "warzone" as the MP.explain please.
>>528367146"The series was never good" is the ultimate 343i cope.
>>528367318>"The series was never good"No one said that either.
I criticize bungie halo because I love it and have a better understanding of it than you.
>>528367170Heavily abridged version is this
>main team was working on warzone, a larger scale spartan vs elite thing as the multiplayer >max was still working on the quasi-arena shooter mp that halo 1 had >they at some point realise "oh fuck this isn't actually working and is shit" and then commit to what max was doing
>>528366596If Halo 3 didn't have a solid ending I think people would be much more hostile towards it. Worse levels, worse story, basically the same gameplay as Halo 2.
good night halo bros, gonna drink and drive xoxo
Only in the current 3bab infested fanbase would "Bungie was lucky as fuck and had a few competent people in the right spots" be seen as a contentious statement and taken as a personal attack.
>>528368663okay I'll just drink then, good night!
>>528368724Halo 3 are the racists, Halo Reach are the retards.
>>528368483I actually think it has worse gameplay than 2, aside from fixing some of the janky bugs. I can't really explain it, but 2 feels a lot sharper for me to play while 3 has a lot of limp dick feeling things.
Also Brutes as suck, they are just discount Elites in 3 and don't do anything interesting aside from the hammer blokes.
>>528369006To be fair, you can't have elites as enemies anymore thanks to the end of Halo 2, so they were kinda stuck with the brutes.
As much as you may be able to say the story in the Bungie games isn't very good, you can't honestly tell me that 343's is anything but absolutely horrible.
>>528369240I think the biggest mistake in Halo 3 was the transforming flood. Implementing them as different types would have been better. Stick the ranged ones to walls as living turrets for example.
>>528369602>combat forms weak as piss now and they also talk too>pureforms are either nothing or the most obnoxious mob ever It's funny how I've neer seen anyone say that they enjoy fighting the flood in 3. The only time I really see them brought up is as if they're the harbinger of anti-fun, eg: when they turn up in The Covenant.
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The Flood were literally perfect in CE and I have no idea why they felt and need to change them.
Also, why the fuck did this track never get reused/remade in later games? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGqE0CLz_LM
>>528370131I think people would turn around on flood if they were more visceral. Bullets tearing holes through them and stuff. Combat form feedback is awful.
>>528370389They largely stopped doing those moody tracks after 1.
https://youtu.be/BGPBjldZsM8
Another one of my favourites.
>>528372771AAAAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
me when i see that rockets are up
>>528373284Rockets spawn every 45 seconds on Chiron.
I genuinely believe the Halo fanbase would dramatically improve if everyone under 30 was just culled from it.
Halo
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>>528370389They're pretty cool in Ultimate Firefight, especially when mixed in with new flood types like the Juggernaut, Flood Spartans, and even the Gravemind.
>>527998262Do you have any videos of that?
>>528377404can you be more specific?
>watching borderlands 4 trailer because it showed up in my scrolling
>darin de paul doing the escharum voice
Everywhere I go I hear him.
>>528379569he also plays the emperor guy in swtor's expansions
>>528379858Yeah I know, but he doesn't do the growling shouty thing as Valkorion.
I'm a former swtor player of about 10 years.
>>528377697Of the Spartan AI?
>>528381116I didn't make any of them in combat.
Here's the mod btw
https://www.nexusmods.com/halothemasterchiefcollection/mods/1933?tab=description
Sadly he hasn't updated it in 3 years
>halo x in halo x
it was a better time
sadly we got shit cosmetics in exchange for good mods
>>528353358>>528353941>flawed but goodExactly. Easy (and even warranted) to complain not knowing how good we had it. And why would anyone, really? The specific people who make some of the worst decisions aren't jumping up to take responsibility.
>repeatedly adding big new features to foster communityRebuilding Halo for Xbox. Pioneering a lot of systems to be imitated by other series with 2. Much the same was done with 3 minus an engine too powerful for its intended console. ODST and Reach bringing big cooperative modes and many upgrades.
Spartan Ops and Warzone were kind of in the spirit, but definitely not worth sacrificing modes that should've been there on launch-day. 343-era leadership also had all the hindsight and pioneering left from Bungie, plus better tech. So there's simply less excuse.
Of course it only means so much unless the current leadership actually applies the lessons they should be seeing as people literally paid to think about game design for a living. Heck, even the Halo Wars team showed more care for the tone of things, despite having to make a background story and the changes an RTS demands to be an RTS.
>microtransactionsKeeping in line with specific people not jumping up to take responsibility, you can likely trace a lot of fault back to Pete "muh cars" Parsons.
>>528366596There's almost always an element of chance to these things. It's part of why different ideas get considered and even worked on simultaneously in the first place.
>what if Halo is not RTS or TPS but FPS>maybe we should team up with Microsoft and Xbox instead of going MAC/PC>multiplayer but who's gonna bother with LAN and carrying consoles and TVs>Azurik is the future of Xbox guys who's this green guy>should we even bother with space sci-fi when modern military is more relatable>FPS MP dominates the industry why bother trying to make anything else or stand outThe list can go on but that risk from trying different things is necessary to a certain point or you can make a solid game that just doesn't stand out until some younger generation happens to appreciate it in retrospect. It's happened with movies too that people didn't appreciate it until well after its time had passed.
>it comes down to a few key peopleAlmost necessarily. That's what team leaders are. Otherwise you might end up with too many good ideas and choice paralysis. Being able to recognize good ideas, or that an idea is better than another for a particular scenario and changing course, it's part among the set of skills involved. A few key people can doom things too:
>hey executives we can make Halo isn't this gr- oh "too traditional"?>people weren't happy about Forge in 4 what upgr- post-launch content this time?>they sure loved all that environment varie- just green and Forerunner for launch-day?>Fortnite is built for wacky-anything-goes thinking but Halo- yes boss we'll poorly imitate FortniteThat list can also go on. But worse than anything is these "fans" who could either keep silent or use their platform to ask Microsoft for better Day 1 quality. Instead part of their strategy is to prop up the current IP holders by bashing a Bungie who was working with less advanced tech. They know being negative, especially towards a past era, brings similar people to them together.
by far the worst reply format above
fucking hideous
>>528353358>somehowif they were investors this'd be like fomoing and selling your current positiong to get on something after it already started pumping hard, but unlike investing what they sold hasn't pumped and left them behind and the series still has plenty of gas left in the tank to anyone who actually spends time to think about the series instead of trends
>>528351317"A few examples of bad practices is the same thing as never being that good and negates 5 consecutive smash hits within a decade."
>All of this back and forth on cuckngie and Peepoopee.
Does it matter? In the end Pierre will save Halo with Halo studios. Everything else is irrelevant.
It's not even down to Pierre but whether or not those above him will actually let those who care about Halo make Halo and not just Trend Chaser 4.
Has anyone actually tried to make anything from the recipes in the Official Halo Cookbook?
>>528388885>ODST and Reach bringing big cooperative modes and many upgrades
>>528395789Infinite plays like a Halo game
>>528393632>never being that good is the same thing as mediocrity at best which 343 being shit coesnt retroactively make betterFixed. I remember hating it at the time and I hate it now. I can't blame fellow Halo players from fleeing and heading to Call of Duty because as horrible as ghost commando knifers, akimbo 1887s, and one man army grenade launchers are, all I need to do is look at Halo and I can see why Xbox 360 ownership skyrocketed yet Halo players didn't. There's a laundry list of problems with Bungie Halo which doesn't become tolerable all because 343 failed to reanimated Bungie's roadkill of a franchise.
>>528366596On launch, I still found 3 inferior to 2's campaign. The plot and writing alone had
>Staten not available written all over it.
Just how many times did Johnson get kidnapped and need saving? Opening mission, Crow's Nest, The Covenant, then he dies. Princess Peach is more competent than 3 Johnson.
>>528393632>few examples of bad practices>bungiemaps fucking sucking back in Reach. Bungie phoned in a lot of work since they hated Halo by that point and knew it was their last game. The original maps were all trash because they had to accomodate the advanced movement options, everything was fucking massive because of sprint, and 90% of the maps were lazy forgeworld knockoffs made by the community. I can go on.
>>528395810Do you have a pdf of it?
>>528396608>The CovenantWhy the fuck did they send Johnson or humans altogether besides MC? Covenant needs humans to activate big galaxy superweapon. They don't have humans on standby because the writers made Truth retarded. So if they did nothing or only sent MC who's too powerful to capture or Elites, there's no risk whatsoever. Truth would be preaching all day without a way to activate the rings. So the stupid UNSC decided Marines needed to storm the beach rather than playing long range support where they can't be kidnapped thus NOT risking the whole galaxy for no reason? You can't tell me the writers at Bungie weren't snorting drugs when they wrote H3.
>>528397152Seconded. The single dumbest thing about Halo 3's story is the fact that Truth is such an idiot he didn't even take a single human hostage to activate the rings. We know this because otherwise he would have just used the hostage and activated the rings when the barrier was active and nobody was knocking on it. The way the story is set up, by The Ark he should have won with zero effort. Instead he has to capture Johnson to finally get someone to activate the rings for him.
That means that if humanity listened to Lord Hood and didn't follow the Covenant through the Ark Portal, or that if they just didn't launch their final offensive in The Covenant, Truth would have lost by default.
And remember, Truth knows he needs a human to activate the ring, which is why he and Tartarus kept Miranda and Johnson captive in Halo 2 as well.
The defense against this that keeps the plot from crumbling is that humanity couldn't possibly have known that Truth was such a colossal moron, but it still leaves Truth as arguably the worst antagonist ever written for a big budget video game. He makes the Catalyst from Mass Effect 3 look sane.
>>527995491 (OP)Wait, they are making CE remaster?
>>528397987they're making a remake
>>528398229Did they say anything concrete about it, or just they are making it?
>>528398357No it's just retarded speculation from the fans.
>>528397505>That means that if humanity listened to Lord Hood and didn't follow the Covenant through the Ark Portal, or that if they just didn't launch their final offensive in The Covenant, Truth would have lost by default.If they did that, then Gravemind would have simply crashed High Charity onto Earth and conquered the planet. Attacking the Ark is what alerted the Gravemind to what Truth was planning to do and made him go directly to the Ark instead.
>>528400393The Gravemind didn't have much reason to be on Earth if he could set up shop in the one spot he couldn't be killed.
>>528400393>Attacking the Ark is what alerted the Gravemind to what Truth was planning to do and made him go directly to the Ark instead.There was no other way besides a coincidental lucky side benefit that they wouldn't have known beforehand and would've been preserved bythis suggestion
>>528397152>So if they did nothing or only sent MC who's too powerful to capture or Elites, there's no risk whatsoever. Truth would be preaching all day without a way to activate the rings. So the stupid UNSC decided Marines needed to storm the beach rather than playing long range support where they can't be kidnapped thus NOT risking the whole galaxy for no reason?Halo 3's story is retarded.
>>528400865They could've intentionally alerted the Gravemind and let it do all the work in hindsight. Johnson being nabbed at the 3rd tower is the only reason there was ever any sort of time limit.
>>528398357It's not 100% confirmed but we can tell what it is based on their track record of how they showcase games
>>528396153Yes, but the part about Bungie not being perfect and flawed was already mentioned. If you want to disagree they were good under the circumstances or not, go ahead. Even so, it doesn't excuse the 343 era and it has even less of an excuse as time passed and tech increased.
Their fanatics didn't even have to put them on blast, their posts could simply focus on continuously calling for greater launch-day quality. Instead they choose to try and make 343 look better by downplaying Bungie. The very minimum was launching with at least all the modes Reach had. 343 era hasn't produced that even once.
>>528397152Nobody knows what truth needs to activate the rings. Chief knows cortana was convinced that 343 guilty spark believed there was another way to activate the ring in CE. Therefore, whether they have human prisoners or not, we have to assume truth can activate the array. There's a gun pointed at the head of the universe and it could go off at any moment. You have to throw everything you have at it or you're a moron.
The real issue is the game doesn't doesn't show us how many elites are available in the battlegroup. For some reason we only see 2 phantoms worth of them in that level. Despite having a microscopic ship by comparison, there are more humans on the ground than elites. We can thank the focus groups for that.
>>528402775>The real issue is the game doesn't doesn't show us how many elites are available in the battlegroup.This is not an issue
Nobody has ever once complained about this
>>528403150What does whether people believe it have to do with whether it's true? This is a bizarre way of evading the rebuttal anon. You can't honestly criticize using reason and evidence then also say none of that matters because no one cares.
good mawrning halo bros!!!!!
may give ghosts of onyx another reading
>>528396193I'll take it further: it looks and sounds like a Halo game a lot more than 4/5 did. It's like the Halo Wars of FPS Halo. Yet, it's still not acceptable given the amount of feedback on features people wanted to see return + advantages in tech and hindsight by that point.
Mythic Slayer actually saw praise and play despite how small 5's playerbase was by that point. If Pierre or leadership above him wants to go further (as they should) and reach that minimal launch-day quality, that'd be great. Still, Halo Infinite is just a failed test with a few perfect answers.
You know what else plays like a Halo game? A game where you can move at max speed while firing. There's a way to do this even if higher-ups mandate a speed-up button.
"Lower gun, speed up" is more outdated than ever by the time of Infinite and doesn't even fit with the whole "Spartans can do more" excuse since a Spartan would actually just lose a degree of accuracy at certain speeds.
New idea: have a focus mode so once you've held down another button or been sped-up for a certain amount of time your first, first few or even all shots are as accurate as when you're not using the boost. Worth playtesting at least.
Either way we return to the pre-Sprint times of players able to shoot while moving at the highest speed on-foot. People are again free to be moving backwards while firing at very nearly the same rate as a shotgun/hammer/sword player is moving at them. Someone chasing another is again free to keep moving at top speed while switching aim from someone they're chasing to their ally who comes to try and run interference, not having to choose between top speed and firing.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that even if speed boost for modern players in mandated, we should be in a better place than Infinite. You have the excuse of not being paid to think about game design. Enough people at Microsoft have no such excuse. We could and should have it way better than Infinite by this point.
>>528402275>all the modes ReachGarbage and more garbage? 343i sucks and so does bungay. Saying "not being perfect" is trying to say they weren't below par at best and completely dogshit at worst, the latter they were more often. Saying any of the two sucks as a defense sucks. Both are shit.
>>528403456People do that. Some say
>recon needing you to buy odst is k cuz i didn't care for recon Like that's not a shitty thing to do in a vacuum.
>>528402275>Yes, but the part about Bungie not being perfect and flawed was already mentioned. If you want to disagree they were good under the circumstances or not, go ahead. Even so, it doesn't excuse the 343 era and it has even less of an excuse as time passed and tech increased.Bungie had more than enough technology for their day & yet produced some of the worst things in the franchise while they bullied those who made some of the best like Ensemble making Halo Wars. They wasted so much of early Halo 2 development that they rushed & crunched to create something completely different from the trailers that was fundamentally broken.
Mark my words, given better technology Bungie would've squandered or also produced 343 level product. Because they're passionless moneygrubbers who sold MS Halo then complained every step about a baby they sold while they put no effort besides copy Call of Duty's homework the last few Bungie Halos. Halo should've died with CE.
>>528402775I wish they had a Gravemind boss fight like they planned but didn't do.
>>528403456>What does whether people believe it have to do with whether it's true?That's not my stipulation. I'm saying you handwaving away actual complaints and then saying that THIS is "the real issue" is nonesene.
>This is a bizarre way of evading the rebuttalI'm not the guy you were talking to
>You can't honestly criticize using reason and evidence then also say none of that matters because no one cares.Having a complaint is fine, I'm just pointing out that what you're talking about nobody really has a problem with. Nobody has ever complained that we don't see enough elites.
>>528403802Reach is fine. Calm down.
I can have friends over and play split screen or system link mp in Reach and have a good Halo night. I can't do that with 343i games. Saying "both are shit" is a misdirection, because Reach isnt shit, it's fine.
>>528404429You again?
didn't read
just make sure you bake the next thread, nancy
>>528404583>didn't readIrrelevant. The point has been made and the record corrected.
>>528404431People love to say
>i didn't care even though it was objectively shitto dismiss flaws. Especially when clouded by nostalgia.
>>528404661AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>528404681People also say believe all women. That doesn't stop false accusations being an issue.
>>528404551Halo 5 not having splitscreen mp is a fucking crime. I can't believe they actually thought that was acceptable.
>>528402775>Chief knows cortana was convinced that 343 guilty spark believed there was another way to activate the ring in CEI don't remember this. Besides finding more Marines? All spark said was
>If you won't help, I'll find another and
>Sentinels, kill them but save his head
>>528403485Is that the one with the high school?
>>528404551Halo chased trends starting with Reach, and it was not necessary. But people are kidding themselves if they believe all Halo needs to do is just make Halo 3 again to be population juggernaut.
Halo at its core is the Smash Bros/Mario Kart of Shooters. The whole matchmaking explosion Halo enjoyed from late 2004 through early 2008 was more than anything else due to a lack of competition in the console scene for competitive anonymous shooter gameplay. From late 2008 through 2012, 3 and Reach continuing to have sizable populations was mostly just due to people being used to playing Halo so they kept playing it, but it can't be understated how much the population was absolutely hemorrhaging towards CoD and to a lesser extent other games like Bad Company and Left 4 Dead during that time.
What Reach and to a greater extent 4 did was turn players that otherwise would have stuck with Halo away. MCC's launch was also a COLOSSAL hit to the core base which had been holding out hope for a rejuvenation of classic Halo. But make no mistake, the overwhelming majority of people didn't leave because these games didn't play enough like Halo. They were going to leave anyway.
>>528404836again, didn't read
my thoughts are not available at your leisure, nancy
no matter how much you beg
>>528404971wut, i don't recall???
it has my nigga kurt
Reach stinks but I did love that the bonus in the special edition was Bungie telling people to read.
>>528404836He's bluffing. 343GS knows the only way requires activation via person. There wasn't any way brought up during 3 even by GS. At the start Two Betrayals GS says exactly that about finding another.
>>528405081how is a n'wah gonna reply to that? if your post ends up being retarded than n'wah will have wasted time reading it. keep it simple, n'wah.
>>528404278>Ensemble>muh whoring the franchise Anyone praising HW2 should know Bungie would've hated it.
>>528404551>Reach and have a good Halo nightWhat. Really? That abomination call of duty bastardization? I've never had a good reach night the same reason I never had a good night on most 343i shit. Because it's horrible and you have shut taste to enjoy it.
>>528405242You're making this place worse by indulging people like that
>>528403802For discussion, let's run with that. However you slice it, the more time passes the less excuse leadership in the 343 era has. More hindsight, newer tech, yet another few years of people going "alright this was kinda cool and we tried it but please bring back the stuff we've been requesting".
Still, Infinite -did- look and sound more like Halo than I ever expected again after 5. If they finally fulfills a lot of theses reasonable requests and launch a game as packed with features as Reach, but without a lot of its flaws (or at least quarantine a lot of those to customs options) great. It's not that I never believed those who came after could do well, as well or even better. They just gotta do it already.
And it'd help if people called on them to do so instead of trying to go "look at the mistakes these guys with less advanced tech made" especially in 2025 and 3 FPS games later.
>>528404278Current Bungie? Sure. The general team that made the trilogy and even the smaller teams tasked with ODST and Reach while others were tasked with Destiny development? I doubt that. Even back when they were doubting multiplayer for CE, or the specific type of multiplayer 2 should have, they let people try stuff out. Heck, they even had others teams trying stuff out with Phoenix, Monster Hunter and Gypsum. There would be even more leeway to do so if they had better tech. So I think we'd have it pretty good.
Anyway, more real than any hypothetical is that 343's era was full of the advantage of hindsight, better tech and people constantly telling them what they wanted to see return and prioritized from Bungie era. A lot of that is the same stuff people put Bungie and more specifically the Reach Team on blast for. So the more time that passes, the worse it naturally looks for those who did have the chance to make changes but didn't. So for discussion's sake: Bungie sucks. The conclusion is still: the more time passes the less excuse there is for Microsoft not learning.
After having played tons of CE (95% ctf) and 2 btb on MCC, I think 3 has my least favorite btb of the Bungie games. Doesn't help that on MCC half the maps are those shitty sandbox ones, but even still the balance is just off.
Reach has paper mache vehicles and dmr cross mapping, but it feels less snowbally than 3, and as long as you aren't retarded and run out into the middle of the map, you can usually avoid getting cross mapped. Also think the btb map pool is better.
CE ctf is peak (btb slayer is a mess due to spawn system). A big part about what makes it so fun is the teleporters, which I feel are missing from modern halo. Most CE btb maps had tons of them, which made more routes viable to run the flag. Vehicles were pretty weak though, mainly just used for transport aside from backwards scorpion trolling.
I don't think any halo ever got the vehicle-infantry balance totally right, but I do think H2 was the closest. The rockets were pretty OP in terms of tracking, but not nearly as dominating as the splaser. Plus all the vehicles were strong, including the banshee which didn't need the banshee bombs. Also had a great map pool. Sucks that's it takes ages to get matches nowadays. Everyone is playing 3.
>>528396193Still not playing Shitfinite.
>>528404551I too l9ve sprint
>>528404551>Reach is fineYou're part of the problem.
>>528406051>The general team that made the trilogy and even the smaller teams tasked with ODST and Reach while others were tasked with Destiny development? I doubt thatThis is delusional. They were dreadful. Read the behind the scenes shouting matches.
>>528404551Halo Reach was mid as fuck
>Weapon sandbox was mid, every covenant weapon was garbage to the point where it ruined Spartan vs Elite multiplayer matches which should have been kino>Took away all of the coolest weapons and their replacements were universally worse>Devs lost faith in Halo's gameplay formula and added COD classes to the multiplayer, which sucked and didn't gel with the rest of the gameplay>The armor abilities were extremely lame outside sprinting>Half of them were useless in MP and only existed in token "use this one ability once and forged about it" tutorial segments in the SP>Campaign was short and kind of boring outside that one mission out in space>Writing was mid at best, did not save itNostalgiafags remember Reach for exactly two things: SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED and OBJECTIVE SURVIVE, and they forget there was an entire game attached to those clips and it was 7/10 at best. AT BEST. The Halo 3 + Halo Reach era of Bungie, after Frankie took over, has not stood the test of time
>>528405584Much as I like FoR I have some sympathy for suddenly having to adhere to story made by someone else. I won't say nothing good came of it though and given what came after in Bungie era, either some people changed their tune or it wasn't ever only disapproval. Pic-related is from Staten's LinkedIn at some point. Granted, maybe he just did it because he was tasked with the job. Someone would have to ask him about it.
Of course after Halo Wars came out we saw it didn't really mess with much, no? Retconning Elites to have shown up before Reach? I figured that was a worthwhile trade-off. If Halo Wars was first do it, I wonder if anyone at Bungie would even consider that a negative, as they didn't write that bit about Elites showing up only once Reach was targeted. Halo Reach even implies ONI knows about Elites already but never how much of the UNSC knows.
What is with anons overexplaining everything lately? Saying very little with a lot of words.
>>528406051No, we wouldn't. Reach was their hateful attempt to torch the franchise. Vehicle health was awful, the maps were practically ripped from campaign that was mostly firefight, BTB was hiding from DMR that decimate vehicles, and that's not scratching the surface. Older Bungie weren't saints. This doesn't excuse 343 but sure as hell doesn't make Bungie okay.
>>528406194Objective modes just play better it doesn't matter which game.
Bungie died years ago. When they made Halo 3, it had a shit story and failed to fix all of 2's multiplayer problems. They were always whiny bitches who sold their baby to MS then bitched when MS did a direction they didn't like, even though they also bitched about being the Halo house, and even became assholes to Ensemble Studios. As Call of Duty was raping Halo, they tried and failed to capture CoD's numbers. Xbox 360 ownership skyrocketed by the time Reach came out by over double and yet failed to reach Halo's numbers.
Bungie was a mismanaged circus who dicked around for Halo 2's production and created a product in a few months which was nothing like the trailers. They have been a zombie for decades.
Reminder to add Jinglebaza to play halo regularly, coop and multiplayer
>>528406660>SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED and OBJECTIVE SURVIVESecondaries remember that not nostalgiafags
>>528405081>but it can't be understated how much the population was absolutely hemorrhaging towards CoDIt's worse than that. The Xbox Live installbase went nowhere but up between 2007-early2010s. At minimum double, more likely triple and quadruple. If Halo stayed anywhere, it would've been the same if not slightly bigger. Instead, Halo ODST and Reach were both smaller. More players on Xbox live any fewer played Halo.
>>528407221forgot to add, nat type open and mogadishu
>>528405132Sorry, I was thinking of Legacy of Onyx.
IMO Halo 3 had better customs because of the superior physics. Every wonder why nobody remake Jenga in Reach? It's because they tried and it doesn't work lmao
>>528406660>NostalgiafagsI am in nostalgia because I remember the tears from Halo fans over how badly CoD stole their players. The asshurt exists even now where newfags who never played 360 start coping and blaming 343 when Halo died before Bungie ever stopped making Halos. I remember the forums and how people hoped Reach beta numbers means Halo would dominate a console which outgrown Halo. Then I remember the tears and cope about how Reach utterly got fucked by Black Ops which came out like a month after and how they're praying the next Halo will bring Halo back to Xbox dominance. It never came and now people pretend like CoD didn't rape Halo to death as Reach fell against Black Ops 1.
>>528407581imagine being this new
>>528404551It only gets praise IMO because it's Bungie's last Halo. If 343 created Reach exactly how Bungie did, down to every single last "balance" patch which further ruined it, it would be grouped with the 343 games too. I'd go as far to say many things Reach did was substantially WORSE than 343's. 343 at least tried giving automatic weapons some prominence after every Bungie game had 90% of the weapons all be useless besides headshot guns and power weapons. It didn't work but 343 at least tried (even if they failed) when Bungie all but gave up during Reach.
>>528405584Sucks man.
>>528408071>Ensemble weren't even allowed the models Bungie had and had to improvise everything themselves>Ensemble had to use screenshots the devs took THEMSELVES in their own copies of Halo games for vehicles like the Hog>Bungie was "muh whoring franchise" like they weren't rushing to put microtransactions into Destiny>Ensemble initially didn't even want to do the Halo IP but MS forced them to, so Bungie was just being an unnecessary asshole to people who also didn't want toand
>sell the rights to Halo to MS in 2000>throw a hissy fit each time MS wants to do something with it that doesn't involve them>throw a hissy fit that you don't want to be the "halo house" and want to make something different>also your newest dead game "passion" is very coincidentally the favor of the month genre extraction shooters
>>528406926Reach btb is unfun no matter how you try to balance it. DMR starts? Annihilates vehicle play. AR starts? One side steamrolls. You basically have to change to sandbox completely if you want an experience similar to 3 and at that point it would be just better to port Reachโs maps to 3.
>>528406194One of the problems with 3's BTB is there aren't enough maps. All those Sandbox maps don't count since they're mostly 4v4 maps put in a BTB playlist for some god awful reason.
Of the 7 BTB maps, 3 are infantry centric (Last Resort, Longshore and Rat's Nest), 1 is gimmicky as fuck (Standoff living up to its name, also not enough vehicles) and 1 has too many Spartan Lasers (Sandtrap).
That leaves only 2 maps where the Halo formula can shine with Vahalla and Avalanche.
>>528406503We can disagree, sure. It's only one hypothetical. Frankly, that team with tech 343 era had may not even have cut Halo 2 like they did and would be doing the trilogy that's been alluded to in interviews. Now as for whether anything could top the experience of fighting the Covenant? I wonder.
>>528406926Saints is far and above anything said. It's simply that if they had leeway for multiple teams trying different things, even other teams working on other IP, then having 343 era tech would give them even more leeway and advantage. Beyond that I say similarly as above in that the trilogy we didn't get very well may have happened instead of 3, ODST and Reach.
>>528406660>their replacements were universally worseSpeaking of replacements, did anyone like the Plasma Repeater? I liked the idea of it being an AR equivalent but not the execution. I liked how we can finally vent them though. That's the one thing I'll give it.
>>528406194I don't know why Bungie decided to ween themselves off teleporters after the first game.
>>528408717They're not cool. That's it. Watch the vidocs.
>>528405081>starting with ReachBefore. ODST was Firefly. It sucked with the shitty empty open world. Aside from making me want kababs, it's got little else going for it.
>>528408871They're really cool, but Bungie kneecapped them in 3 to make room for shitty man cannons.
>>528408714It was a cool gun that was implemented poorly. It was worse in every way to the AR(probably to try and balance Invasion), and the manual venting barely mattered when the gun lost heat at a decent rate automatically.
>>528408071Reach got heavily criticized even with Bungie goodwill in play. 343 gets it worse because of a combo of messing with story elements even more, adding more abilities in an attempt to make them work when many called for them to be gone, plus launching without certain features that even Reach kept. They were meant to climb out of the hole not dig further.
>>528056427True. Shitters on here will pretend Reach was great when anyone who played CE/2/3 a lot fucking hated it. Especially the multiplayer.
>overpowered grenades>no melee bleedthrough>bloom>only good new weapon added was the grenade launcher>no dual wielding>any armor ability that wasn't the hologram>the maps>1-50 replaced with cod xp barit was an abomination of half-assed cod shit
>>528354859Oh right, D2 Eververse. That was Bungie's idea.
https://www.pcgamesn.com/destiny-2/destiny-2-reboot-jason-schreier
>โWhat Bungie decided was: โwe canโt do this any more. This is just too much, this is too hard for us to do โ the tools that we work with are really hard to deal with. Itโs hard for us to make this much content. Itโs just hard making content in general.โ And they said โwe are going to do a drip feed of smaller stuff, and weโre going to put up the Eververse, sell microtransactions, and make money that way.โ And Activision said โokayโ โ it was a part of their renegotiated deal โ and they got to a point where they didnโt have to be cranking out as much content. And now theyโre back to the same pattern, where they have to crank out these DLCs and just be making content constantly.โ>Apart from the revelation that Eververse was Bungieโs idea โ which runs contrary to the popular narrative of money-grabbing publishers browbeating well-meaning devs into greedy practices โ itโs interesting that Schreier thinks the year one content cycle should still be a challenge for Bungie. The studio has grown significantly since 2014/15, and youโd hope that theyโd fixed the problems with their development tools, too.Funny how they were doing D2 under Activision yet THEY were the ones gushing and excited about adding microtransactions and Activision was only giving it the okay. Microsoft doing Halo = Whoring but D2 + microtransactions = a-okay to Bungie.
>>528408714>did anyone like the Plasma RepeaterConceptually it's fine, but it has the same problem as most weapons of just being worse than anything with a scope - especially if the other player sees you first. It only has an advantage in being able to melt shields really fast before a melee.
>>528409191The more I've played Reach, the less I care for the GL. It's a neat concept, but being able to airburst it for roughly the same damage as a direct hit lessens the skill ceiling of the weapon. But I liked the Focus Rifle and Concussion Rifle. The former was nice because Bungie was always so tepid to include the Sentinel Beam on maps, and the Concussion Rifle was just a straight upgrade to the Brute Shot.
>>528409191The DMR itself makes many power weapons look weak.
>>528409830That's a good thing. Power weapons should have counterplay.
>>528395641He's another libtard who puts identity politics above all. The studio has no chance.
The fans should just make their own Halo game since we're never gonna get the game we want anyways.
>>528410852Why don't you start?
There never was a true Halo clone.
There never was a real attempt.
>>528410641if only you knew how bad things really are
>>528410852Many are trying but it's a much bigger ask and slower process when you're not paid to make them all day. Basically everything with promise is WIP at the moment since a full-length campaign and MP is a huge undertaking. Mercury Rising seems pretty cool but even then it's its own story off elsewhere.
>>528410852still waiting on the whole "indie gaming renaissance" to produce a good shooter
>>528410641Now that you mention it I seem to remember a quote about him wondering why there weren't more dark-skinned people on some team. I would actually have that going for me but given Microsoft's trend of ignoring sound advice from devs during all the games I wonder if I could even convince them. Like some say: Halo might just be a thing left to make money while it can and be discarded if it can't rather than ever tap into its full potential (relative to the latest advances).
>>528407727It's good to find other anons who still remember the days. Bungie intentionally sabotaged the IP with Reach, before losing the rights. That game is CoD bullshit with Battlefield "return to battlefield" bullshit thrown in. Fuck every faggot kid who says Reach was a good game. And you know why Halo Reach tried and failed to emulate Call of Duty?
CoD4 immidiately started draining Halo 3's absolutely massive population count as soon as it came out. Before WaW released, 4 was beating Halo 3 in the weekly UU rankings most weeks. When WaW released, it split the CoD base but overall it was actually adding more CoD players still while Halo 3 was only losing players. This idea that Halo 3 was a more popular game than CoD in 2009, on Xbox even, is false. Rather. the combined numbers for 4 and WaW dwarfed Halo 3 when combined. By the time MW2 came out, Halo couldn't even rely on winning a plurality anymore to get to #1 on the chart. I distinctly remember when the Reach beta came out, there was a lot of speculation on Nelson's blog about ODST and the Reach beta stealing the #1 spot for a week from MW2 because people would log in to play the Reach beta. But nope. ODST and the beta nabbed the #2 and 3 spots respectively, but MW2 reigned Supreme.
Obviously when Reach released it held the top spot for a week or two before it all came crashing down again. Same thing happened with H4. From 2007 and onwards, Call of Duty was massively gaining popularity and Halo was massively losing popularity. Well over half of Halo 3's peak player count had abandoned the game before Reach even released and Reach never had much staying power either with half the launch players being gone in under a year. Halo died with H3 and Reach is just a failed necromancy.
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>>528408303Bungie were dicks to their fans constantly, dicks to their publisher (making Microsoft of all companies look like the good guys), dicks to their partners, even dicks to eachother. No wonder the studio fell apart.
>>528411856>Bungie intentionally sabotaged the IP with ReachReach was 2 things: a spiritual successor to Sage's baby(Shadowrun), and a test bed for Destiny mechanics.
>>528409945What's the counterplay to the DMR? Especially when it's a counterplay to most others and much more common?
>>528412163The DMR is not a power weapon.
>>528412339Of course not, it's too strong to be one.
>>528413114The DMR isn't even that strong in a vacuum. It's on the lower end of headshot weapons throughout the series.
>>528413241always has been
it remains the most overrated and underrated game at the same time to this day somehow
>>528413241Reach was a great game, I had a lot of fun with it
It had some great guns e.g. pic related
Bungie has been incompetent since Halo 2. This should surprise absolutely nobody. Or did we all somehow forget that Bungie spent most of Halo 2's development time sucking each other off to the point that they had to SCRAMBLE to make a working E3 demo? Then they had to cobble the game together in 6 months, culminating in a game with a story that was wildly different than what we were told to expect and a multiplayer that was fundamentally broken, because they didn't have time to actually develop what they meant to or balance their shit. Jesus christ this studio has been nothing but shit since 2004 and nobody seems to realize this because they were all highschool kids that didn't know any better when Halo 2 was released.
>>528413593In a vacuum, but Reach's very open map design & vehicle health made it way greater a weapon than it needed to be. DMR completely destroyed any semblance of a varied weapon and vehicle sandbox. Pinpoint precision, range falloff was like 2500 units which on most maps would cover their entire length outside of the largest BTB options, and it could shred vehicles in the same game that introduced vehicle health independent of the driver--a monumentally retarded decision that 343 would carry on for the rest of their time with Halo from 4 through to Infinite.
>>528414109You had a DMR too, just shoot them back.
>>528413593>CE MagnumA little misleading since it has decent spread and a hard cap on range that is noticeably shorter than these other weapons.
You're not likely to get a trigger-held triple headshot outside of close range against a slow target.
>>528413602Poor man's Brute Shot.
>>528415348It's not very misleading at all. It's very accurate if you don't hold the trigger, and its range cap hardly matters on most of CE's maps. The BRs of each game also have a similar range cap. These are all perfect TTKs, not the average engagement length.
>>528413593IMO the whole precision meta is shit. It's okay to have the Magnum, BR, Carbine, Needle Rifle, DMR and etc be strong, but they should especially NEVER be starting weapons. Range is a huge element of combat encounters in Halo PvP, due to the traditional starting AR/SMGs having fairly low range. What I think is especially fucked is how the BR in H2/3 can out-DPS the AR/SMG in those games at close range. They are pseudo power weapons and it fucks up the weapon balance at the fundamental level. As a vehicle enjoyer, it hurts playing BTB in Reach due to Warthogs and almost every vehicle getting wrecked by DMR fire from 2-3 people.
Still better than loading into a CE match, getting plinked from across the map in .3 seconds by Magnum fire, respawning, and instantly dying again 4-5 times.
>>528414109That's part of the problem H2's BR is in some ways better than HR DMR but the maps were less open. Maps were supersized to accommodate for sprint (a small Reach map is equivalent to a med-large 1-3 map), negating any supposed speed benefit, and adding pointless sequences of running from point A to point B just to get to the action in these giant maps. The large size means DMR level range is a much greater advantage. It's also so common and easy to get.
>>528414390NTA but that's like saying the best counter to something is the same thing. You're advocating a samey mirror match like when a fighting game god tier char is so good entire tournaments are nothing but them.
>>528415354It was better than the Brute Shot. It did more damage on direct hits.
>>528413594If fine is below good, sure. Marcus as Creative Director really should have let Abilities only be in Invasion, Customs and variant playlists of other modes.
I still kinda go easy on it for being a spin-off and a last hurrah for previously left out ideas. Even Marcus back in Xperia's interview mentions he thinks non-ability gameplay aged better, but maintains the art style aged the best. I feel that's more or less fair.
I still do think that for a game after Reach, the art style that was a fusion of 3 and Reach, with a more detailed 3 style or armor having various gear and attachment, would be even better. Infinite has mimicked some that, we'll see what comes next if Halo Studios gets to put out an FPS.
>>528416091Abilities should have been pickups, and you should have dropped them on death.
>>528408714the plasma repeater is actual fecal matter and the only weapon that surpasses it in being borderline non-functional dogshit is the spiker.
pros:
>it's an emergency health damage weapon when your human weapons are out of ammo>it does decent damage to vehicles when your team focus fires with you I guess???cons:
>slow projectiles inflate its ttk, are easier to dodge, and make it unusable even at midrange unlike the AR which is actually capable of lasering people across the map with tap and burst fire>takes 11 shots to break shields and 6 to kill health a whopping one less each than the AR which has a massive range and consistency advantage because it's hitscan and the ttk may as well be the same due to projectile speedso the plasma is a close range weapon with the damage of an AR wow. what makes it even worse is when the repeater is compared to it's cousin the plasma rifle which outcompetes it in it's close range niche since it breaks shields in 5 shots which can be followed up with a melee
>>528404810didn't they try to give some corpo bullshit excuse like, "people going over to each other's house game is too hard so we removed it for you. :)"
As if people did not know the reason was they wanted to sell more xbox one's and halo 5's. No wonder that console sold like shit with how anti-consumer microsoft was being with it. I fully believe they are going to try the always-online and "no borrowing games" stuff again at some point.