>Hard mode Nightlords informationhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/the-everdark-sovereigns-have-emerged-elden-ring-nightreign
>Nightreign official wiki and guides, beginner/advanced tips and trickshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring-nightreign/wiki
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>Nightlord resistances charthttps://files.catbox.moe/e24o74.jpg
>Main Information Documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta
>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit
>Interactive Maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between
>Group Passworderg
>Touch Bloodstain: >>528044638
>>528073696 (OP)Change the group pass to "niggerg"
Damn brats trying to get me to spend my hard earned money on starlight shards...
>Raider mains be like "yo this gameplay is FIRE dawg"
what is revenant made out of?
wood? porcelain? soft, smooth, squishy silicon???
>>528073849This stupid brat can seduce even the most jaded raider by just lifting her doll skirt revealing her plump pink puffy pussy. No one can resist the allure of her pristine holes.
>>528073995bisque I'm assuming .
>>528073995silicon like an onahole
>>528073963doesn't exist, schizo
yay, my comfy room lighting is back
>>528074168Cry why are you gay
death should just be permanent honestly
im tired of retards trying to go back and get their runes and dying 4 times while me and the other guy are fighting oldgaol boss
Do we all agree that this relic is required if you want to keep your /erg/ license?
>>528073958This is fire. Every other character trivializes all the non-nightlords as well anyway.
>>528074386how much is the damage buff?
>>528074386nice relic editing, nerd
did you know that every skin aside from the dragon school skin makes the revenant barefoot
>>5280744425% per evergaol, massive
>>528074386My chalice is pure green though.
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>start game
>remember adel is my least favorite nightlord
>close game
i guess ill just come back next week
Grrrrrr.
>>528074593This is like 90% of the reason I use Dragon School over the others.
>>528074593the hair on that skin is so pretty, the cute lil hat is nice too
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All those motherfuckers did was to invert the Ironeye relics believing we wouldn't notice lol
>>5280744425% to all damage per prisoner, if you defeat 2 it's flat out the single greatest damage boost of any relic, if you defeat 3+ it's nuts
memorize where you can get stonesword keys and just go for evergaols during day 1
wtf i just found a victors record in the hall that used a katana from one of my corpses???
>>528074663shouldve hit that crab
>>528074772How much bonus gives the "attack per night invader defeated" 5% too?
>>528074883>shouldve hit that crabUnironically should have. The more I play the more I value killing everything in arm's reach of me constantly. The runes really add up.
What kind of relic should I use for the new build on the right? What is the absolute best in slot relic I could use with that combination? Last slot is white so just hit me, I want to have something to grind towards to make it perfect
>>528074750they're inverted so that you can choose which effect you want to be active when you have two that conflict
>>528074593Which is why its the only one I dont own
>>528074593It's a shame that's her best skin. I miss her feet.
>>528074750While lame, it still has its uses. AOW on relics takes priority from left to right
>>528074593>>528074679Closest they could get to making a schoolgirl outfit for her. Based.
>>528074931night invader isn't really worth it, they're not guaranteed to spawn unlike evergaols and they're a lot riskier to tackle early since they come in groups
>>528074883>wtf i just found a victors record in the hall that used a katana from one of my corpses???you get 1k murk for every one of those you get, pretty cool
>>528074556>he doesn't know
>>528075042probably like evergaol damage, arcane and more phys attack
>>528074593This skin sets off my gaydar.
>>528075129>>528075067>>528074750Now explain why Recluse has inverted relics, she has nothing that conflicts
>>528075528I'd prefer to hear more about her inverted nipples.
>>528074679ikr, its like the whole reason i use it. love how slightly straw blonde-ish it is and how it makes her look like an actual person and not a doll
>>528075494wdym
the evergaol passive is actually crazy good, I just had a run with 4 gaols cleared
>>528074386is attack power for your entire team or yourself only?
nice to see people waking up to that passive, ive been using it for like a week already lole, hit like 280 attack power on ironeye with it once due to ritual sword effects + 4 gaols cleared
if you played solo you did not clear
stop playing on easy-mode
>>528075931you're not tricking me into dealing with noobz.
>>528074931>>528075058waaait is it also permanent? it doesnt say so in the actual relic effect, thats poopy. but also if they DO show up they show up in groups, do they count individually or as a group for the passive?
>>528074772>memorize where you can get stonesword keysyou wouldn't be able to feed me that info with a spoon, would you?
>>528075342on adel? who takes half damage from lightning?
>>528075846only yourself, but if everyone starts out with a key it seems like easily the best relic with flat +15%
>>528073958i see red in the upper left hand corner
>Night Aspect
>Playing Recluse
>Spend the whole match trying to get at least ONE seal with holy damage
>Not only not get any, get mediocre spells too
>Meanwhile, on the Revenant's side
>Placidusax Ruin, Discus of Light, Black Blade and Frost Lightning
>ALL OF THEM BEFORE THE FIRST CIRCLE OF THE FIRST NIGHT
Please, please tell me she was cheating.
I can't have this shit luck compared to some rando.
>>528076130basically all the big round-top chests
the one you're liable to miss is that the one in the fort with a golem/crystalian is on the mid level near the 2 gates you can open, and in the bubble boys cathedral it's all the way on top on the upper floor
>>528076324attacking what
Saw this giant pillar of light.
Not grace, but also did not seem to point to any location.
Any idea what it means?
>>528076293>only yourselfoh...not interested randoms will never have it equipped.
>>528076382it's just rng bro
i got placidusax ruin on a white seal at a cathedral 2 minutes into the game
>>528076382kitten gets everything, you just get fucked
>>528075528>not wanting more loadouts for the one character with a ton of different spell typesI've got these going on and still want more:
>FP MAX>Glintblade sorc up >Dragon cult up>Giant's flame upNow with Frenzy being more common I want to run that too for fun
>>528076382a reminder to all revenants who get this amount of luck: share one of the holy seals with your recluse
especially placidusax's ruin, that's the one you're least likely to use yourself because it eats FP
>>528074156But the image shows it…
>>528075638She doesn’t have them because they’re gross
What the hell is quoppp's speech impediment
Anyone on PC want to do regular nightlords?
>>528076507if you are here and don't play with /erg/, you need correction...
>>528076679of course, i always share and even pick rewards for my team half the time!
>>528076679Nope.
I found it. It's mine. I don't care about what other players do.
And if I run out of FP I'm just going to switch to a hammer or greatsword and go bonk.
Try and stop me.
>>528076858>>528076864the duality of sissies
what's the difference between sealed revenant's urn and her regular urn? one is blue/blue/yellow and the other yellow/blue/blue, isn't that the same thing?
>>528076130churches and forts always have them
sacred churches its on the top, the rest is on the left at the ground floor
forts it's where you find the godrick knight and in the places where you find crystalian and golems it's on the only room you can go to after you move past the rats/jars
>>528076641>Glintblade sorc upAnon, those are just 6%
+2 magic damage is 6.5%
ALL glintblade sorceries do magic damage
so either you get a 6% buff to one spell type, or else you get a 6.5% buff to ALL spell types
same with giant's flame, just get fire damage up instead
>>528076641I just wish there was a way to make sure I would get one of those.
>>528076959They have priority from left to right
>>528076858revenants like that are who I go out of my way to keep up infinite FP cocktail up for
>>528076959goes from left to right
>>528076830i will, someday..maybe
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>>528076774yet I can't find it
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what's the damage been /erg/?
>>528077359which recluse bro are you anon?
>>528077359I'm 2 for 3 and don't ever want to fight him again.
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>>5280773591 loss, guardian's fault
>>528077359If you are who I think you are, ty for carrying my revvy and giving me starlight shards.
2/3 on PC, doing all the regular bosses
>>528077386>brainlet mage not aware his stars of ruin is out of range
>>528077386>revenant players giving starlight shards to an actual characteralso please stop making 1080p webms
>>528077753im too lazy to change my video making settings i know it looks like ass sorry
>>528077027I already run that on top of this setup but didn't even know the exact numbers for it, pretty neat
Also, I meant Glintstone not blade kek
>>528077049Frenzy aside, Glintstone and Crystallize is almost always guaranteed, Giant's flame and Dragon Cult is a 70/30 for me so far,
sorry tide, forgot about my blasphemous blade lmao
>>528077437the one that jerks people off in the thread
When are they buffing the Revenant's summons during Nightlords?
any tips on revenant relic building? this is what I use, it's pretty basic but I'm not sure how I could improve it
The worst part about the constant d/c's in this game is that it tries to automatically put you back in the session. Most of the time when I get d/c'd, someone else d/c'd too, and if that happens and you're playing with randoms then it's already over. You can't come back from two people losing a level and the wasted time. It's so fucking stupid.
stars of ruin is so much fun bros...
shredded dark adel easily
>>528077912+2 magic stacks with +2 magic so if you have 2 of those relics even that's better
>>528077359I went on a 5 loss streak trying to carry some people who 3 barred a lot last night
it's alright tho
Can someone please help me beat Night Aspect? Password is erg
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thanks for the carry raiderbro and exeggutorbro
i had lost to hardAdel 5 times before this
>>528072968after finishing a run with this one, I really wish I had post damage hp restoration, it's very good with the charged halberd guard counters
>>528074772Improved Sorcery/Incant Schools give 12% per, but otherwise yes
>>528078617gimme like 5-10mins
about to fight giga adel then ill queue night aspect
>>528078653don’t worry bro he’s a strong guy who gapes all over the place
his spaz out during the phase transition can’t actually hit you until the aoe
I fucked up and went down at boss at 20% HP when the rain coming in. It was a totally scuffed run and i was at 3 bars. my teammate should have finished boss and let me rez nearby, but instead hes dancing around trying to avoid attacks while rezzing me and we ended up not getting the boss and he died at the same time with 3 bars when rain was over him at end of 2nd day. fuck if only i didnt go down or he would have let me respawn on my own
>>528078253desummon them when they're about to take damage like you're playing palworld
>>528077027>ALL glintblade sorceries do magic damageAre there any sorceries that don't scale off magic damage? Magma aside
>>528078842But they're ALWAYS about to take damage...
>>528077050>>528077256when does that matter? Is it just for those "starting armament is poison infused" things?
Seems kinda lame to have chalices for such abject edge cases
Hiii, goodluck on your games today anons!
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>>528078626the night rain™ drove he crazy
or, it's a dragonbutt from ds2 shulva that got rotated and never recovered
>>528076130high chance from the chests in cathedrals/castle. also possible from the corpses in those locations as well.
also PSA to anons, smithing stone 2 can drop from corpses in the mines as well, theres some corpses right near the entrance sometimes, it may save you going in the mine and killing the troll..
What's the best Shifting Earth to have vs Sovereign Adel?
>>528078626He was chilling, thriving in his own lane, eating good - until one day, there was nothing else to eat. The N**ht offered him unlimited feasts...yes...let the feast begin
>>528079102The rain killed all his food… I’d go crazy too if I liked. Eating.
>>528079198City for the revive
>>528079198florida, he's weak to rot
Like, what the fuck. I'm pretty sure now that From soft blocks you based on IP if you attempt to play matches with the same boss too many times. Fought enhanced Adel a total of 6 times, the game refused to give me more matches unless I tried another boss.
Reseted my modem, got another dynamic IP and I'm ok again.
>>528079082thanks slut
*slaps your ass*
>>528079198city is fucking op as hell
insane amount of loot, souls, easy bosses, guaranteed revive
>>528079198either mountaintops for anti-dragon effect or crater for a lego weapon
sorry about routing U U and moosh, I just woke up and didnt even realize we had Nokstella halfway through day 1
>>528079198rotted wood or city. city has saved two runs so far for me, but on a good team woods is better
reminder there is a shortcut to the castle roof by jumping and running on the ledges over by the merchant/blacksmith area
Gg hard adel bros. He went down easy. I wish I could have done more though, he moves too much for a meleefag like me
https://youtu.be/D8rViF7V_oA
>>528079198he counts as a dragon so the damage to dragon bonus from mountains should be considered.
>>528079329Anon, none of that.. I'm just trying to wish every goodluck, not get spanked..
>>528079435gg boys, he died quick. very nice run
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>successive attacks negate damage>can never get successive attacks because the fucker moves around too much>>528079353np brotha
sorry about not duping blasphemous blade lmao
>>528079543man I was so defeated
Do you have more success playing with the people here or randoms?
>>528079268>>528079306>>528079342>>528079351Gonna conjure The Crater just because I haven't seen it in years and then I'll conjure Noklateo, queueing on pass erg.
>>528079628Here, of course.
We’re good at the game.
>>528079543I wanted to fuck up Libra and the field bosses not realizing we had city
>>528079543I like successive attack buffs on ironeye, duchess, and revenant
>>528079628randoms: 50% winrate
erg: 70% winrate
desu i think they should just let you select your preferred weapon out of like 3
getting railroaded into a single weapon type blows
>>528079628Never lost with /erg/ until dark Adel launched but we learned together and we destroyed it on first victory and we destroy it on subsequent victories.
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Damn, bro fell off
>>528079628been playing only with randoms until recently, I put down erg and had my best runs with them
>>528079628Randoms: 20% win rate
Here: 66% win rate
>>528079964I'm queued for it but cant get out of 1/3 somehow did you fill
>>528080096so you terrible and carried. ok.
>3 expeditions in a row where the host dc's
Loving it
>>528079198Shifting Earth isn't going to help you dodge shit on Adel, your either going to dodge the shit or your not
>>528080190>terribleI'm a little better than terrible
>>528079198Not confident against him yet? City
Learned to dodge and play against his new moves? Woods
>>528080036you can live in p*land with whatever that gives him + twitch
>spawn in new expedition
>one teammate instantly pings an evergaol
>other teammate follows him
>just let them die over and over again
>>528075707I always suspect someone using this skin over the others is gay or trans.
>>528079198City or mountain probably, but I'm biased against the woods, which is still good. I think crater is generally the worst shifting earth, even if it's super cool.
Kind of funny how Gigadel solos every boss from ER and SOTE both in-game and lore wise.
>>528080372guess I'm in queue hell for letting my shifting earth drop off and not buying a new one, pc erg 1/3 stuck
Bandai Namco Entertainment America is streaming Nightreign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qBcpJxm4tA
about to ce relics, does att inflic blood loss +2 (x3) stack? and such
is everyone only queuing for the new boss or is the pass dead?
Can you deflect Adels grab or do you get rekt anyway?
>>528080472Mountain is useless for anything but Caligo, who is a joke of a boss
>>528079848it doesn't work on bows though
>>528079198All of them are fine aslong as you dont get troll keep / basement bbh griefing your day 1
>>528080036he isnt good at the game
why do you even care about him?
>>528080553on the same relic, and on different relics, just wondering how broken can I make this shit and what char would make the best use of it
>>528080579I don't think you can deflect any grabs, just like in sekiro, kinda (you can deflect the snake eyes grab)
>>528078872rock sling and meteor (of astel)
technically the meteors have a small bit of magic damage but it's negligible
What is this new Adel bossfight, I cannot see shit in that fight of what's going on lol.
>>528080553attacks inflict blood loss/rot doesnt work rn, you'll see which relics work and dont by just trying them out
>>528080705hes the best pvper after jeenine
the sealed chalices for each character is just the backwards version of the default...
does from really think order of relics matter that much or are they just that allergic to dropping a full red chalice?
>>528080630Anti-dragon passives are very good against Adel. Also, it's just more fun than the woods.
>>528080728Damn so it really is pretty much all sorceries. Lightning and Holy works the exact same for Incantations I assume
>erg: 6 wins 1 lose
>randoms 0 wins 0 lose
i guess technically randoms are better
>>528080573erg is a hardmode only community you are not welcome
all shifting earth's should have unique bosses
add old iron king to crater already dammit
Sorry for flubbing that run guys. I keep thinking I can just zip on in and forget that I need my "negate damage on attacks" stuff stacked before I can be retarded.
Thanks for the save Duchess.
>>528080758what do you mean by doesn't work? I can't ce them or they don't do their job in game?
Also, how do I make this shit bused, for any character? Like what effect combos straight up make the game ez?
They need to either rework or remove the ancient dragon fight on night 2, it's ridiculous, it takes longer to beat than the actual nightlord (and is harder too because you can't see what hes doing since you have nowhere to strike but his ankles). Ancient Dragons are probably the worst dragon fights From has ever made and they somehow managed to make them even worse in Nightreign by increasing their size considerably and making it impossible to hit their heads.
>>528079881there should be relics in the shop that make you start with another weapon. also class skills should allow for more weapon types. wylder should be all swords with his attack skill, maybe not colossal swords, and maybe all weapons but colossal, idk.
guardian should get any thrusting weapon working with his special guard counter kit, etc
>>528080553https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1meXOw4jR1hh7YXVMeijWwSDIXnCw6Tk4hTZPq2qvyK4/htmlview#
>>528080838Forcing an element on a starter and carrying it to +2 for the boss is how from devs play I guess.
>>528080838the front relics take priority for weapon mods
>>528080838More loadouts and they're cleary expanding this as time goes on
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>>528080907>dragon god is in the middle of the crater punching your shit as you try to navigate
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I'm almost glad
My souls fell through the earth anyways so I was fucked.
Was the ancient dragon + dragonkin soldier fight on day 2 a fever dream I had or do you face two bosses in a row sometimes?
>>528080982>that moment you realize glintstone pebble is better than most spells on those fast moving nightlords
>>528080990I know, but you can do that with any chalice, it's just rng dependent
doing a backwards version of ONE chalice doesn't do shit in the big picture, having more color combinations does
>>528081048Yeah…I really dunno why we persisted on the blackbird. I honestly see him as an auto avoid unless the team is melting bosses. Takes too long to take down and doesn’t status. I also had an issue were I was still using my starting katana because the drops were ass
>>528080907yeah they should, just having the magma wyrm again is fucking lame
the boss is unfun enough already
>>528081216Rarely you get two bosses on night 2.
>>528080907>fume knight at the bottom of the crater>aava at the top of the mountains>elana singing from the depths of the nox city>sinh doing drive-bys in the rotted woodscould be kino
>Randoms keep dying
>Kite for 5 minutes and rez them
>They die immediately
>Spend almost 20 minutes dodging the boss and getting chip damage in
>Randoms disconnect.
>Eventually mistime a dodge and get oneshot by the grab.
>>528081216It's a random thing. There will be a message like "the night threatens us anew" or something
What's the most ridiculous Relic you've seen that wasn't cheated?
>>528081216the game sometimes throws you two
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>>528081380This one. I only play Executor and Guardian tho so not super useful to me
>>528081308i had no seal for the entire day 1
>>528081216randomly yes, wish it was more often because it's free runes
so is the password actually fucked with a bunch of shitter randoms or was it like 1 guy last night
>>528081216I’ve gotten Nameless King followed by Morgott twice in a row before.
>>528081308>>528081498My only staff was shitty fucking bubbles.
>>528081380a revenant one on r*ddit with wraith bell, revenant ally bonus and magic damage bonus. not the bis possible but pretty good.
>>528080942I've fought that thing every time ive queued for gigagape. Nothing makes me want to play less. I hate the stupid dog without his sword attacks too.
>>528079628i have lost only a single game with erg
>>528080521>"Undefeated" Malenia if she spent 5 minutes in Limveld
>>528081308If you can't beat Bird, you can't beat nightlord. Git gud.
>>528081779I won 8 times in a row, got mountaintop 4 times in row losing every single one, got 1 normal map again for a win
Mountains SUCK
3 of those 4 mountain runs we killed the ice dragon and the mountains still SUCK
>>528081982Malenia, Miquella, and Radahn trio in Limveld, bleeding on the ground:
>did we beat the sentient pest?>that was ulcerated tree spirit…
>>528080579can't deflect grabs
>>528082241most of those were mountains lol
>>528082241The icedragon is a timetrap, just get the two trolls and the dragon v troll near the bottom. Maybe the demihuman swordsman depending on your routing
>>528077290Hmmm. Maybe they deleted it?
just had the best run of my life with randos
easy 15
enhanced gape thing is going down easily
gets to the autistic tantrum phase
team wiped in a single attack
ok
good
that wasn't a waste of time at all
good game
good fucking game
now I need to watch a video to figure out how to survive that shit, because I have no fucking clue
and then it's only a 45m walk back to the boss, if I'm lucky with the randos
good FUCKING game
>>528082640show gock (goat cock)
>>528082640>*attacks before any of my companions fall for the merchant's tricks*
>emote "my beloved"
>recluse goes to emote back and gets oneshot by surprise rain spell
hehehehehe
>>528082420It's my own skill issue
The way I play is very purple weapon dependant so I get fucked by mountains and do no damage by the end. Mountains only give blue garbage or yellow probably garbage
>>528079628I've only lost 2 or 3 times with erg
>>528081216Oh you two. That's a recurring nightmare for me
>>528081492That's pretty insane, can't ask for more on 1 relic
what's stopping me from running 3x3 Improved stance breaking when two handing on raider (using CE)?
Does "power stancing" claw weapons count as two-handing them? Also, does the added heal effect from boluses/consumables also apply to other people from the aoe effect relic?
>>528082979this game was built from the ground up to create funny antics and huge comebacks
>>528080801Back in containment retard.
>>528080521How do you figure?
>>528083219i dont think it stacks
>>528083219or 3x3 +3 ARC on executor?
>>528083324stackable according to google sheet, just don't know if it stacks within the relic, or across relics as well
>>528083324on the doc it says it stacks
>>528083219its distasteful, i'd use stuff that could randomly be generated but you just want to skip the gacha and get it. actually non obtainable relic combos are kinda meh
>>528079493I won my runs today with erg thanks to your good luck. Now can I fondle your ass?
>best staff I got all game was a white that I picked up off the floor at the start of day1
actually kind of insane that it didn't kill the run, the evergaol relic really saved my ass
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Bandai Namco Entertainment America almost at night three if anyone wants to watch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qBcpJxm4tA
>>528082667Get the crimsonwhorl physick from the merchant and turn that attack into free heals.
I fucking hate the ancient dragons so fucking much
do enemies in NR regenerate their poise health when they aren't damaged after a certain amount of time like in ER?
>>528083809what evergoal relic?
>>528084062yes pretty clearly
>>528083849>this isn't entertaining whatsoever>the fact people donate money to these incel streamers is mind-blowing>hello there how are u doing today>doing fine thanks u (same person)whats going on here
>>5280840675% damage per evergaol cleared, I think we beat 4 of them so it was a free 20% damage
>>528083849>oroboro >fightincowboywow stacked!
>>528084208Don't call me that.. I'm not even good..
>>528083219its better to assume that having the same buff 2-3 times in the same relic doesn't stack
can confirm 3x3 stance breaking relic works, takes me 2 hits to drop the sparring faggot, I wonder if it should take only 1 with this setup
>>528083998Literally harder fights than Adel when solo
>>528077543it takes 3 to get defeated
Question, how much boost do I get from the "Damage increase with 3 same type of weapons equipped"?
Whoa... don't report me...
>>528084269You're the best little slut a daddy could ask for <3
>>528079198woods I think
lots of big bosses means better rng for good weapons for good teams, and the scarlet forest hp blessing is more meaningful than the 2nd set of lives on noklateo I think on average
plus it's very likely people will get wending graces from forest, on top of that it doesn't remove the castle so you can reliably do the basement for everyone to pick a talisman
noklateo is still quite good in my opinion though
mountain is a meme and bad, at least doing the mountain I think, if you just ignore the mountain and only take that anti-dragon effect thats easy to grab its something, but overall mountain yields bad drops
crater is just +1 estus and decent ig
>boss has a weakness
>dont get any weapons or spells of that damage type
ok? whats the point
>recluse blood loss relic
>blood loss in vicinity increases damage dormant power
does this combo work? that's 1.5x damage basically when u press ult
>>528084269>wishes us good luck like a cute cheerleader>lets us fondle her body after runs to relaxSeems pretty good to me, cutie
>>528084335can some faggot figure out whats the most broken cheat combo
>>528084574So 20% in total if I clear two Gaols with the relic, got it
Anyone elses game freezing for a second sometimes after the update?
>>528084249>>528084696noooooooooooooo
kick rifle became my playstyle for the next month after you showed me that
finally some good fucking food
>>528084793Happened to me once
I'm not sure how to replicate that. I played 4 or 5 hours today and only had that happen once though so maybe you're referring to something else.
am I the only one that actually likes the rest of the game as well as fighting the nightlord
why do people say they wasted 30m when they lose night 3? were you not having fun the entire time?
>>528084793works fine on my 1650
>>528085192I'll never get it too, the journey is fun as fuck
>>528085192I paid money for the game, artificially locking me out of the victory screen is bullshit
i miss fighting the goat...
>>528085192there is nothing fun in rushing areas and clearing mobs as fast possible. for me, the fun in souls game is exploring and taking your time.
>>528085296You can fight him any time bro
>>528085192because after 150 hours doing the same solved formula for day 1 & 2 over and over it gets old
>>528085192i only felt like that on week 1 when playing with randoms who i could tell were going to fail from the first 5 minutes
images that make your balls curl up into your ass
>>528085296me 2
purple faggot, erg, running 3x3 stance breaking relics
who wants to test this and have fun?
>>528085265funniest comment i have seen on /v/ today
>>528083849>ecelebsnigga no
Behold!
Got Gnoster event early and the passive just kept going off.
Checked before Nightlord and none of us had rune gain relics on.
>>528085192The rest of the game is tons of fun, and the bosses are fun even if you die.
But having to wait close to an hour to retry the boss because of the game's structure is shite.
>>528085410>a revenant playeryeah it would make balls ascend too
>>528085410He's literally only hard to gight in the basement
>>528085540> /v/fuck u know what i meant you autistic faggots
>>528084812>faggot bellyou didn't beat the game
>>528085692all I know is that you're a faggot
>>528085410he's an asshole but the real reason he gets the reputation he has is because retards challenge him at level 5
>>528085765>the only thing anon knows is wrong.let me guess, you play ironeye or wylder?
ayo this nigga ringin' bells
>>528085559and people still ignore the direction of the locusts, its so fucking easy and you get any levels back you lost
>>528085192They got spoiled by Elden Ring completely removing boss runbacks and covering every level with graces.
>>528085301o :c tested the heal it works but it's slow as shit
>Get to the final boss
>Me and my friend both DC leaving some random to struggle alone
RIP
>>528085892I don't think it's willful ignorance, it's just not a very intuitive mechanic to be looking up at the sky while trying to avoid getting slapped by the aoes
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>>528081356I had this happen once with regular adel but it was because for some reason I would keep on respawning with all flasks. I was ironeye and absolutely shit getting killed over and over but the madlads actually stayed the good 30-40 minutes I spent learning the moveset and slowly chipping away an arrow at a time (had no melee). I thought for sure they were gonna DC every time I was eaten and got 5 minutes of damage replenished lel
>>528083998>>528084414Bows and Crossbows make them pretty decently fun when solo. You actually hit the head, for one.
>>528085192I'm having as much fun in Nightreign as I did when Dragon's Crown came out tbdesu
>>528085892i still have no idea how to locate him
people say 'look up' and i don't get it still, he's not fucking flying around
>>528085410Revcluse drains my balls till they look like raisins, if that counts
>>528086123the locusts move to a single spot, they have a direction in the air
Good job Duchess A and Duchess One
ok im bored of super adel now, go ahead and drop the rest of the bosses please Miyazaki Jr.
>>528085786Also the average retard immediately is overcome by the desire to use their entire stamina bar mashing r1 the instant his back turns and gets clipped every time.
>pest raid
>we all fight it
>notice executor has no bow
>drop him one of mine
>yaaay he picks it up
>yaaay we kill it faster
yaaay FRIENDS!
>first try on ultra adel
>merchant sells me infinite starlight shards
>second try, hes back to normal
was that a glitch, or a special merchant?
>>528086215thanks Duchess Prime you too
>>528086269>bored of a boss <1% of players have beaten
>>528086414the village merchant has infinite stock
>>528085192I like the rest of the game MORE than fightingnthe nightlord, but it's a "waste" because the rewards are shit and you don't get progression credit.
>>528086440>made up numberhard mode is basically same as the old one
>>528084696>>528084903>>528084423>>528083849Holy fuck I just remembered how absolutely awful Armored core 6 PVP was. I legit believe that this game has the worst PVP in history. Fromslop cannot make a good PVP game even at gun point.
>>528086201so you have to let yourself take a level down and then follow the locusts back? god what a fucking dogshit raid
like I get it, woo free runes, it's still ass when you're in the middle of something and all of the sudden have to deal with it
>>528086524total aespa rape
>>528086331I can't reliably carry randoms on him, especially if they're playing a squishy class.
I very rarely die to him, but i know the moment his sword turns red and flies at someone other than me, i'm going to have to pick bodies off the floor.
Had a double ironeye random group who both went to 3 bars on him while we were level 10 and he was only 75% hp. i just left them there and left to fight something else.
>>528083849>oroborowhat the fuck is wrong with that guy? he sounds like he's having a mental breakdown or orgasming after every sentence. why cant he close his mouth after he's done talking-ehm? everything ends with a fucking moan-uhng
>>528086783i love imitating his gargling voice
That time I fought Adel after Morgott jumped me at level 3 when I was fighting a radagon wolf and they combo killed me, giving me a debuff that increases damage taken for the whole run, was harder than this new Adel.
>>528086440yeah hes pretty much the same he just explodes slightly more often and you have to go boioioioing every couple minutes
Ironeye is beyond braindead, what were they thinking
>>528086269Same
>>528086440>learn the super easy to deal with mechanic they added for him>steamroll throughGive those players a couple of runs and they'll be the same, unless they're bad players to begin with
>>528086896It's an easy win just spamming R1 from mid-range(suboptimal), and yet people still can't even do that well.
Ever since I got the double mark for Ironeye he's been my favorite character to play, best movement AND utility in the game
>>528086896Agreed. I'll copy paste my reply the other day about him
He was going to be my go to main and he was for a while on release.
Just feels so shallow and basic after a while sadly, also slightly overtuned
>spammable ult that can stagger and easily res 2 bars>consistent and non stop dps from mid-close range>spammable skill with a fuckton of i-framesThey should've toned him down a bit and given him one more mechanic, anything, maybe even reloading a crossbow in your off-hand by perfect dodging, anything to add some depth
Alright, finally gonna try giga Adel, wish me and the randos luck
>>528087091well done anon im happy for you, i hope you continue having fun
>>528087091do they stack?
>>528087242No, character skills on Relics don't stack
>>528086896they were thinking of making a character you could win with
>>528087000checked
I like how the background is just a giant dragon eye
>>528087338i mean, is it possible to mark and enemy twice
>>528087242nta, no, but you can refresh it as soon as it pops, it's so much fun lol
>>528087242no but you can input them consecutively for basically a full 1.5-2 seconds of iframes plus insane movement. Especially if you're locked on to something you can get from one side of a room to the other instantly
>>528087368every background is like that anon
i saw a short of some guy skipping the entire crater with ironeye by wall jumping off some hanging rock and then double dashing in the air
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>eat boiled crab
>get eaten by adel like 5s later
>survive on 1 hp
all skill
My neck hurts just looking at Adel, why the fuck is he like this?
i have 100 hours and the only remembrances ive done are duchess and wylder
im sorry but i just dont have any desire to play any other character
I'm retarded and a slow learner, can someone give me Solo tips? I genuinely do not think I'm that bad at this game, but I feel like there's a big dissonance between how I usually pace/route with a group and how I play solo. Especially with group fights, most of them have the retarded one on one AI from ER but I did a gaol fight the other day where both enemies seemed to aggro me (It was the nox warriors or whatever)
>ds3 skins only
>fucking yuria skin for executor
>no tengu skin
unforgivably gay
>>528087929>pick Ironeye>have to do a run with him to refresh his journal>do that, start the rememby>rememby step requires another fucking runIt's just so tedious. Wait for the inevitable patch where they let you progress steps with murk/super murk/just by doing runs with any character
>>528087929based anti-hoarding fun-haver
>>528087995the skin choices are bizarre. you have the heckin DS1 fan service but then you just have weird shit no one uses like executor's gay ass skirt
>>528087952post a match result
>>528087929i did them all and went back to just playing wylder
>>528087952In solo, if the enemies are very close, they'll often both swing at you.
If you put some distance, just one aggros while the others kinda pace around doing nothing until the first 1 is dead or you come close again.
>>528087423No, it just refreshes the duration
>>528088161I exclusively use femboy executor
>>528088161>DS1 fan serviceDo people even use Darkwraith Duchess? It's the most OOC costume followed by gay Exxecutor
>randos on FOMO jaw
How can they be so bad at this?
Revenant is clearly the griefer pick, but the other classes are just plain bad
>>528088462I use wraith duchess because I don't wanna be a dumb girl i'd rather be a cool undead wraith
but unfortunately it still uses her dialogue and stuff
they should just make alt-gender skins for everyone
>>528088475>Revenant is clearly the griefer pickI carried the fuck out of extra dark adel with revenant sounds like tremendous skill issue to me
>>528088551what skin could you give gay raider, gay recluse or gay revenant anyway?
>>528088438i never use anything but darkness because it reminds me of odogaron armor, and his ponytail looks faggy
>>528086889uhmm do you think the C team are capable of much more? the bosses will just have an extra move and more hp.
>>528088315You're a slut in a good way
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Simple as
Mission failed, we'll get him next time
>>528089057im ok with being a meme, it means i get to feel good about performing adequately
>>528089057the hawk tuah can talk tuah though
>>528085223Im on a 4070 and every time gigadel does his first big particle effect cancer thing my game freezes for a second :/
>>528089057revenant is good
>>528088720recluse is easy, just albreich or rogier
raider - man eater mildred
i have no idea about revenant though that would require some more time
>guy has shit meme in his name
>spams pings like a retard
imagine that
>>528086558no. the locusts spawn from a spot where someone is standing then fly back to the moth. just walk out of it and you won't get level drained.
>>528089057>characters that can single handedly save runs>throw picks I have more retarded duchesses that run around the map acting retarded and downing instantly when they go in melee than I ever do hawktuah or revenants
>that part of the everdark Libra fight where you have to vote on a player to be instantly downed
>if each player recives one vote each Libra heals to full
Any tips for taking on the Everdark boss?
>>528089647All the people I pleyed with today that had le funni meme names, despite my misgivings, were all really good at the game. Way better than me and the other people who had 'serious' names.
>>528089941they usually are
>>528089579gwyndolin/aldrich, it's right in front of you and you still didn't pick it
>>528089918dont stand close when he do the big explosion (same as before)
when he go adhd just wait then run away from the purple energy column, then use the blue spiritsprings to get into the eye of the story
>>528089918You need to boss melt and have at least one or two damage negations to do it consistently. Everyone needs to be aggressive and always pick up better stance breaking perks
Godslayer or Cranial Vessel for giga Adel (bonk or slash?)
>>528087586I was wondering if that was possible. Link?
>>528088720>gay raidergirl anri
>gay reclusethe rape dungeon magician. Seluvis
>gay revenantholy knight hodrick
>>528090149those are both bad, he resists fire
>>528076830I'm too shit to play with /erg/
>>528086558No. The AoE explosions happen on you and randomly in the environment, but once they pop, whether you dodge it or not, the 'flies' will rise, then go in a direction. Follow that direction and it leads straight to the boss who doesn't fight back and gives a big rune boost.
Yes its stupid that you have to drop everything to go kill it, but the reward outweighs not doing it.
kek didn't know sanguine noble could party you
>>528090361I think he's the only enemy in this game who can.
>>528089918Bring rot poison and frost cause you need constant damage on him. 3 ironeyes should cheese him pretty well. When he starts freaking out just run away from him
>>528079628haven't tried erg yet but i've had more success with randos than with my own friends... not sure if im being carried or my group just sucks
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>>528090438>When he starts freaking outthats the entire fight lol
I'm so sorry for that Adel run... I spaghetti'd so hard at the end... I'm not usually that awful...
>>528089826>Forces the respec deal on you>You now have to drop and shuffle around your team's gear in the middle of the fight
>>528090615I got 25 on my first win just now, is that low or a lot?
also, where do I spend them
>>528090636certified revenant moment
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It didn't get stagger once, all my crit bonus was for nothing
>>528090615wtf how
anything unusual in that run? did you get a double night boss or something?
>>528090423maybe wylder invader can
>>52809071425 is a 1st time bonus
>>528090714you always get 25 for the first run. go out the front of the keep and around the right corner
>>528089826>>528090692Id piss myself if the Everdark Libra fight is just Data Luxord from KH2
>>528090248i prefer the one in the OP ngl
>>528090828nope nothing usual, it is like my 5th time killing him tho
>>528090838>>528090839I'll just ce a fuck ton of them and buy everything
>>528090636>I'm not usually that awful...so you're usually worse?
>play ironeye for the first time
>literally only see 1 bow other than my starter
thank you!!!
>try to play revenant for trophy
>endless 1/3
FUCK. YOU.
maaan that was slow holy raider not the play
>>528091090>nooooooo you have to replay the same shitty fight 50 times so you can buy 20 chalices that are the same as previous ones except in different color orderlmao
>>528090248Thanks, I guess I misheard
Anyways, we took him down. MAN it was hard to tell where the tornado would drop. Me and clueless rando #2 died to it twice, but eventually figured it
Noklateo is 100% the best shit for that. Saved our run.
0-6 on giga adel so far with randoms. Any tips on fighting this nigger?
>acquired many pieces of high rarity equipment in a single expedition
qrd?
>>528091238tip: play with erg
>>528091238don't play with randoms
or play a class with easy revives like guardian/rev/ironeye/executor because randoms WILL get fucked by the storm
>>5280912836 purple weapons and 2 tokens also fill out your inventory with items (not sure if last part matters)
>>528089057needs an even higher tier called "real real pick" with just recluse in it
I guess Ill switch to dbd for now, dont want to throw a run because Im drunk and ruin it for 2 other people
>>528091283hoard all purple and gold I guess
>>528091238Wylder and Raider can knock the cunt out of the Tornado attack and stop it completely.
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE MAN WHAT THE FUCK
What does giving the brooch to the signboard do?
>>528091421It does, I got the trophy after buying one of those flasks from the boss-room merchant. Also had all 6 weapon slots and 2 talismans of at least blue rarity
>>528091582Desperate lurkers, now say the line Bart
There is simply no usecase for Guardian
>>528091661No I just left, fuck these illiterate retards going to gaols at level one when obvious pings are made, not carrying these niggers
>>528091661they leaked the password!!!
>>528091730I want to be a bird
>>528091730>let your team do free damageretard
>easy revives>can only die if retarded (like u)
>>528091238Pray they understand the tornado. It took me 13 attempts to win with randos and that run was the only time they knew to avoid the cast point then spiritsping in after
>>528091630it changes the name and appearance of one of guardian's relics. just a cosmetic thing.
Does Poise actually do anything
>>528091847Other characters can do that and actually do damage
>>528091921what other character can tank bosses the entire fight?
>>528091730hes good for farming during the days, just get the relic that makes his ability last longer/bigger and you can set it in a group of enemies while running off and it'll just kill them
Is oy true that Console players need to pay a subscription to fight the Everdark Sovereigns?
>>528091968Is this a serious question
Haven't done the new fight at all yet and queueing up don't put me in D tier please
>>528074120Bro she’s a doll. She doesn’t have a pussy. Plus Raider is too sentimental over his second in command, Weathervane
>>528091309>>528091327I'm not that good and I rather not shit up erg.
>>528091496>>528091851Thanks for the tips.
>>528091730he is the best at getting eaten by Adel on purpose to give your team a DPS window
>>528092029>>528092059>tank>die in 3 hits instead of 1, get poise brokenagain, retard
Oh if you die in the storm while running to the circle for the mobs, the game ends.
OOPS!
>>528089826>Life is simply unfair, don't you think?>So let's fix that. Make your choice.
>>528092130just roll nigga
>>528092130Ok, so you knew the answer but are pretending otherwise. Thanks.
>>528092093just queue using the password, it really doesn't matter. Someone is bound to navigate and make pings on the map
>>528092006yeah because you need to be online
>Raider is most boring nightfarer in the marketing
>Most kino remembrances and skin
>>528090423Some have pseudo-blocks. Kaiden Sellswords and Lazuli Sorcerers can block attacks with their swords before attacking. Sanguine Nobles are the only ones that can actually parry and riposte, however.
>>528091730/erg/ hypothetical: You only want big damage, big damage = dead boss just get gud
Reality: People die.
That's his use case, its turning a double 3x dead team into an alive one and clutching a victory. Plus his AoE clear is the best of any character and it speeds up rune grinding by a lot, another thing which yes a good team "could" do but most teams are not good they're dogshit.
I’ve never played revenant. She just seems lackluster.
>>528092518Sorry, I don't play with shitters so he's pretty useless in my games
>>528092578You're there so there's at least one
>>528091909>reduces incoming poise damage by 5/10/15%>stackable: no
>arcane +2
>arcane +3
is this a waste, or will it actually make my bleeds even bleedier?
>>528090423One of the banished knight variants can raise their shield sideways and will parry you if you hit them
>>528092518>People die when they are dogshitwoah, I didn't know that
About to start doing my 'member berries for all the classes, is this alright for guardian?
>>528092693probably take one less hit to bleed if we are being realistic
>>528092734very good
>>528092721>Bros im 0/6 on this fomo boss how do I win?>Brings the solutionWhoa, revving retards saves games? No wai. This is why im 3/0 on him and not 0/3.
https://files.catbox.moe/v2zy3a.jpg
>>528091730they just need to change his shitty guard stance passive so you take no elemental chip damage if you time a perfect block. also let him block everything, including grabs and stuff from below/behind so he doesn't get raped by super adel.
>11 (solo) clears so far
>only 55 sigils at the moment
>afraid to spend any more in case they add something useful
at least on most clears I have 0 deaths, makes me feel good
cool fight, want more
>>528092518The other /erg/ magical meme is that Guardian doesn't deal damage when he deals as much as any other character.
>>528092660you are so unkind to your fellow erginians and for what..
>>528092989>when he deals as much as any other character
>>528092982>1 clear so far>999 sigils Cheat Engine is to From what the nukes were to Japan, you should always use more.
>>528092989now you're just lying
>>528092959No chip and even further reduced stamina cost on perfect guard would be huge, and still wouldn't break the game
Same as MonHun, they just seem afraid of making 'big shield' archetypes decent, let alone good
>>528092693Test it on the training grounds, I've found that the raw stat increases are basically useless though
>>528092989>when he deals as much as any other character
>>528093034>>528093084>>528093118Post the math. None of your anecdotal bullshit, post actual math.
>>528092989>when he deals as much as any other character
>>528093149You made a statement, lad. Why don't you start
>>528093149whats this even supposed to mean bro
>>528092982GET. THE. ADEL. RELIC. NIGGER!
>CAPTCHA: 4G0Y2
Now that the dust has settled, tell me:
Bell on Revenant - meme or good?
>>528092989>when he deals as much as any other character.bro I like guardian too but cmon...lol
>>528093254The base statement is all the characters do the same damage until proven otherwise. Post the math.
>>528092734So jealous of that yellow with rally
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whoa... if only this class wasn't dogshit...
>>528093273already did, also both chalices that I use and the based stonesword + gaol damage + treasure relic
not falling for the gambling jew
>>528093382>>528093238>>528093254If its so easy to prove, post the math.
>>528093349it's okay, not bad and but far from excellent
wouldn't waste a relic slot on it but I do like it when I get it from gravesites
Queuing for any regular boss on PC
I just wanna play
>>528093409I think you should work on your reading comprehension
>>528093485Jumping in on whatever boring thing shitposters bring up makes you equally as boring
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>>528093473oh ok based, I just dont want erg friends to miss out on exclusive relics
Reasons for playing bird:
1. He's a bird
2. Coolest costume in the game at a low price
3.Any combo of classes can beat any challenge in this game if the players are good, minmaxxing is for autismos to suck the fun out of a thing
Can't wait for the Nightreign DPS meter overlays. A lot of people are going to get exposed
>>528093585>I can't prove my statement so I'll just call it shitposting The reason this is triggering you is anecdotally you don't like Guardian and you want to believe its because you're justified in him being bad, but when asked for evidence you have none and lack the intelligence to find it. If Guardian deals less damage than other classes it should be EASY to prove it, go on, post the math.
>>528093349in multiplayer it will carry your damage on day 1 and some of day 2
if you are solo it will also help massively on day 2, can kill black gargoyle with it no problem if you also use summons
also fucks with enemies that are designed to dodge like black knife assassins and might hit them anyway
>>528093417this would be very good if it wasnt the worst guardian perk
I'm erg'in it up on the Jaw that Gapes with The Crater active.
If only adel, pest and centaur get enhanced forms I will have a melty
>>528093682unless you are full BiS and using meta classes you should be banned from my multiplayer sessions
>>528093261>Wowee I killed a blue tier boss in record time!Let's see how you pull that on Nightlords
>>528093878They already said the rest will be in later. It's only those three in the current patch.
>>528093878Don't be dumb, anon. Even without datamines of course they will. And they literally said so.
>>528093682I won with a random guardian last game against libra after raider left I like guardian
only class Ive never had a good teammate of is recluse By The Way
reminder that bird niggery is discords trying to get your (you)s, do not respond
>>528093878Actually let me correct
>>528093936, they said every nightlord except Heolstor would have a everdark variant. They might have just avoided naming him for spoiler purposes, though.
>>528093706>dps metersome autismo should make a logging page where the dps you do is tied to your steam/PSN account too
>IT'S THE CORD!!! IT'S ALWAYS THE CORD!!
meds, please
>>528094001What level of schizo is this
Do you have a handler or social worker?
Guardian usually does more damage than Raider
Only poison will stop it in its tracks.
Bros I can feel myself becoming Wylder the more I play him
I used to play Ironeye and Revenant but now I am become John Nightreign on all levels but physical
>>528093706nothing would be exposed. recluse players spamming broken spells will have the most dps while revenants throwing shitty frisbees will have the least. meleecucks will be somewhere in the middle.
So we got white phantoms again huh? I kept seeing white ghosts again.
>>528094001They're not a tangible currency anon. Yous don't matter.
>>528094001>reminder that bird niggery is discords trying to get your (you)s, do not respond
About the evergaol relic, had a run where everyone had the new relic, we hit like 4 gaols day one while hitting churches on the way, it's so comfy, really recommend to get it and try accommodating it in your build
>>528094216>I used to play Ironeye and RevenantGAAAAAAY
would love to play other classes but duchess' easy mode dodge actually makes the flailing retard enemy design actually feel palatable
i just need the darkwraith skin so i can remake my old elden ring toon
>>528094216it's ok to be a shitter bro
>Run going well
>At the nightlord the guardian decides he wants to powerstance halberds and use his art for damage
>He dies over and over
>We wipe
>Try again with a new group
>Run going well
>At the nightlord the Raider decides he wants to be an archer and runs away the entire fight
I fucking hate this game
>>528094498wow, Type Aism much? Why not Type B for once?
youre telling me the recluse fucking gave birth to the nightlord? fuck thats so hot. who was the father? was it consensual or no? any r34 where shes birthing and maybe breastfeeding too? haha
Fuck we were close. Sorry cry and as
>>528094681this is what I get for not playing recluse
Based be Helphen's Steeple against Super Adel, that sword is one of a kind, I know that if I get my hand on that as Wylder I'll do well against him.
Anyone on PSN Queuing Adel?
>>528094001>>528094085trvth nvke
>>528094316>hes doing this for freengmi
>>528093682Speaking of bird, there are only 3 "main" builds you can use as Guardian
Tanky shieldbot, with aggro drawing on block
Windwhirl focused build
And then a guard counter focused build with thrusting attacks
Are there more feasible builds you can do with Guardian?
>>528094584>it's another recluse decides she'll be using katanas episode
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>3 blue grail
>3 yellow grail
>3 green grail
WHERE
IS
3 RED
GRAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>528094952too powaful, gaijin, prease understando...
Do the relic colors actually correspond to specific abilities or is the color mechanic just an extra layer of RNG to make the game last longer?
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>duchess relic>free restage on dagger comboFREE +50% DAMAGE??? it seems hard to compete with this if youre focusing on melee damage
>>528094651to be honest id run a female darkwraith too. i just want my badass skull mask
I need some quality Recluse porn where she shrinks someone and uses them.
>>528094897>And then a guard counter focused build with thrusting attacksThis is what I like to do. I don't gain aggro with my attacks, but often I'll swap from halberds to something either faster or has a faster guard counter, like thrusting swords or greataxes. Get the dormant powers that calls in rosus' summons and wrath of gold on guard counter and it won't even matter if your guard counter misses, you can mass summon skellies to fight for you.
>>528095057probably just rng
>>528095057both. certain attributes are more likely to be on certain colors, but at the end of the day any relic can have anything and its all just RNG
>>528095057Purely rng as far as I can tell.
i need duchess porn where she jerks a guy off and then uses restage to forcefully make him orgasm again
>>528095231>i need duchess porn where she jerks a guy off and then uses restage to forcefully make him orgasm againThis but the guy is Wylder
>>528094952it will cost 100 sigils
>>528095231you will never coom all over her useless face mask that she wears for no reason.
>>528095312wylder cucky...
Aight redpill me folks; when Adel starts zipping and going nuts before he conjures the storm wall, why do both of my teammates say they're doing the exact same thing I'm doing, which is
>turning around 180 degrees from Adel
>running straight in that direction as far as they can
>dodging the ground-indicator lightning strikes
>immediately jumping in a spring once they appear
and yet, I have a 100% survival rate for this, and they both end up dead or "with the storm wall on top of" them?
We literally got him to <5% HP the first time we tried, but now because they keep dying when the storm wall drops, we've failed 3 times. They have zero reason to lie about their POV and I refuse to believe that I just have good instincts on where the safest place to run is... So we're missing something.
Also the "I'mma roar away your whole HP bar if you're within a football field's radius of me" move seems kinda problematic, though I've survived it a few different ways.
>>528095359Excellent, very good.
>>528095231>i need duchess porn where she jerks a guy off and then uses restage to forcefully make him orgasm againthis but the guy is executor in dog mode
>>528095395Sometimes you just dont see the spring quick enough and the storm just creeps up on you
>can’t wear duplicate talismans
two spear talismans on iron eye would’ve been sick
>tried new Adel twice and didnt get it
>put on erg password
>beat it without even much of a struggle
Thank you Raider bro and Recluse bimbo, it was fun, I think I pulled my own weight too.
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games hard
>>528095376I stopped being attracted to her when she revealed herself to be some variety of slav
>>528095579you did good ironeyebro
>get a hoarfrost stomp on starting weapon relic
>even when its stuck on a common weapon, its still the best way to kill 90% of trash right until the end of a run
>also applies frost and deals a shit ton of damage to bosses too
i find it funny that this shit is still op as fuck 2 games later
>>528095676>look how hard I can pee
Pretty close fight for being my first time fighting super jaws + only two people. I guess you're supposed to run out of the giant ass circle? or roll? idk, I can't even tell what the startup of it is supposed to be
Whoever “Tide” is, you’re a fucking faggot
Ender Lilies Fan, you’re a bro. GGs my man
damn recluse has giant fucking tits
>>528095906when he nothing personnels around the arena after his original zappy ult, get to the outer rim of the arena and look for when spiritstream spawns, then leap into the tornado he creates
>>528095954Cringe as fuck namedropper melty
Back to your tranny discord, please
>>528095967welcome newfriend
bros what if we make a password for when you wanna queue with people using the gaol relic
like erggaol
ergg :D
>>528095906Yeah that was actually the closest I’ve gotten him to dead. I think you need to run away while he does the tornado bullshit then use the spirit spring to jump inside it after it’s formed
>>528088462I'd say executor wearing a dress isn't ooc at all.
>>528095954>>528096053This shit right here is why I don’t play with you faggots
>>528096096shut the fuck up, nerd
>>528095954Don't fucking namedrop you braindead faggot.
>dark souls 1-3 boss shows up
>enjoyment of the game increases noticeably
curious!
>>528095676feels just like vanilla elden ring
why
the
fuck
are so many people trying fomo jaw when they clearly don't know how to play the game yet
i've been trying all day with randos and haven't gotten a single win
>>528094789I beat him two or three times so far
>>528095065The auto restage is 35%
>>528096053>>528096192Nigger DC’d on me two games in a row, fuck him
why does everyone hate revenant bro
i feel so oppressed...
>>528096236wow i was wondering why it seemed so shitty
honestly duchess' ability feedback is so shit, i can never tell when it is doing anything at all
>>528088462I use darkwraith duchess... (did a coinflip for darkwraith or black leather)
>>528096096Keep talking I'm listening, king.
>>528096163you just hang around here posting instead? sad.
>>528095601what does putting on favorites do
>>528095676>>528096203I thought NR uses unpatched ER as base? So Hoarfrost and Rivers of Blood etc are still unnerfed
>>528096351As a recluse main, I feel very loved and appreciated
>>528096373black leather is my favorite female set across the franchise. A lot of the cosmetic choices they made were shit but pleasantly surprised they added that
>>528096130>>528095954I think he just had shit to do, left, spawned in 10 minutes later, then got tilted after dying in the rain + being underleveled or something which is understandable. I think I played with him before and he was good.
But yeah good ass run. I never used those spiked iron fisties before and they felt great
>>528095395If all 3 players run in opposite directions he can drop the storm on top of someone. This is way more likely the second storm onwards. When you try to run away from the initial damage but run out of stamina you probably get dropped close to the wall.
>>528096351superiority incites jealously and frustration.
>>528096456>I thought NR uses unpatched ER as base?japanese game dev moment
>>528096401Mostly yeh. 13 streak with randos currently while I wait for my nightreign friends to be done with the poe league
>lead 2 randoms down into the crater
>they fuck around with the flame chariots on the way there but I ping because we wont make the boss otherwise, then jump down to start the boss to get a headstart
>figure they'll figure out to jump down with me
>they do not and just walk around on top until the circle closes, boss at 50%
>have to fly out
>they still wont jump
>watch them run around like headless chickens trying to find a way back up
>they eventually die
>after the night boss they keep jumping back down to try and get their shit back but keep dying
>10 minutes later i'm tired of it and just go to the door and teleport them to it
>lose to nightlord in like 30 seconds
just one of those days
>>528096292If the good players are already insta dropping lobbies with "lesser players" then why don't they just add each other on steam or something? that's lame
>>5280936821 is the only reason to play him and why I started with him. He sucks in this game because it's not an mmo/moba and is boring so I switched to executor where I can carry games.
>>528096220Same. Too many times people die to the damn storm, and I'm left fighting solo with two 3-bar downed teammates. If one more of them could stay alive longer I could beat it.
>>528096351She'll never be a real woman.
>>528096660He wasn’t good, he kept running off on his own and dying
Is it possible to be close enough to Adel that you don't need to spirit spring? That the storm just starts around you? I tried that a couple times but I just took a ton of damage until I ran out to a spring, but I wonder if I just wasn't close enough.
sorry rev, wilder im sure we could have won if you two hadnt had to revive me every other fucking second
>>528096367Its still one of the best relics for her, sadly
>>528096645In our favor for once
Genuinely, get a RoB on Exe and you will chunk bosses with Corpsepiler, its ridiculous
>>528096351Summon visual clutter, lackluster ult, spell rng, fp management, sandbags on lords. The only thing saving her are bare feet and gremlin attitude.
>>528096783there's some sweet spot mid-range where the storm just does some chip damage as it expands and then you're safely inside
anyone tried to do a chainsaw yet
>>528096783i usually backup and then bumrush through to him, which is usually faster than finding the nearest superjump
>finished some remember quests and the "all characters" achievement
>back to mainlining wylder
feels so fucking good, like taking off the training weights. SWOOSH SWOOSH SWOOSH SWOOSH easily the most fun character fuck guardian
>>528096693>I don't like thing>Therefore it's badZoom zoom
Trying to attack super Adel as melee in multiplayer is miserable. Use all your stamina to reach him, gets 1/2 swings, now dodge for another 30 seconds.
>>528096783I don't think so. from what i can tell, while the storm is forming he has some cancer explodey ball around him, then once the storm is mostly formed you start taking damage outside it. You just have to be ready to sprint to the nearest spring to avoid damage, and maybe get a little lucky with it spawning close to you.
>go into basement day 1 at level 7
>ironeye disconnects immediately
i even gave him an arrow sting talisman dude.
>>528097001based wylderGOD, cant wait to get the wins as revenant and recluse and then play him again
>>528095331You can see Rya's nipple
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wew
how is erg queue...
sometimes Duchess spawns in the roundtable wearing her hoodie, why?
>>528097072im still pretty new but my experience has been that if you try to play melee against a nightlord you will either spend the entire fight running after it or just getting whomped by some retarded fuckhueg aoe attack
>>528097120Most unfun characters for me were easily Guardian and Duchess
Ironeye was kinda eh but at least he was insanely fucking easy
>>528095057Purchased a few billion relics, its RNG, you can get anything anywhere but its more likely on some colors to prevent you getting the fun combos.
So yes you could get 3x OP typically red sklls but on blue and easily slot them in. Will you? No, statistically impossible but for Cheat Chads. Its like a good skill being a 10% chance on a red, and the same skill being 0.1% on a blue.
>>528097283roll through the AoE... kid...
>>528096292>>528096752That's odd, I've played with him more than a half-dozen times and he seemed competent enough. Are people making characters with the same names to falseflag?
>>528097046Every run with a guardian has a lower level of power, and reviving teammates has a backended drop to team dps that is avoided by doing a lot more damage. I think he looks cool and I don't mind carrying them but he's unquestionably deadweight in a game with elden ring mechanics. Which again is fine, I relish the challenge of having them on my team.
>>528097242She swaps between being the Priestess of the Roundtable Hold and Duchess, the Thief on her whims. She's supposed to abandon the latter role and embrace the former, but refuses to do so completely.
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Not bad I guess nigga
>>528097321What's the color hierarchy? I know red is good, do the others have an order or are they just different pools of stuff?
>>528097309I actually enjoyed guardian and especially duchess personally, I just did ironeye today while drunk after someone left because hes that fucking easy
seems pretty fun but not for me though
>>528097072Because dumb fucks do not understand aggro. If you hit the boss, he will come to kill you, move TOWARDS YOUR GOD DAMN TEAM SO THEY CAN LAND ATTACKS. Instead people, especially ranged retards of the dumb bow type, will shoot the boss then continue to shoot them as they run making it impossible for aggro to switch then get absolutely floored.
>>528096351she's dead weight pretty much
>>528097415>What's the color hierarchy?There isn't one really, people have just noticed that on average Red appears to have more interesting passives.
Has anyone in the history of elden ring ever used a single bewitching branch?
I know you had a Wending Grace but I clutched that shit
>>528096842summon visual clutter sure
the rest is a skill issue and not true
>>528076480isn't that an indicator of where the ring will close?
>>528097309Duchess doesn't evoke the dex playstyle enough, not anymore than executor. She has the double dodge but her dagger combos are still long and committal. She should be able to dodge faster after her attacks to nail the speedster niche in a way that feels a lot more unique than other characters. She's balanced because restage is busted but I think there's a reason she seems to be so unpopular despite being lady maria bait.
>>528097582I used 1 on accident while trying to eat a bolus in a church once
>>528097582They're useful against Commander Niall, you can make his two super Banished Knights fight him and either he'll kill them outright or they'll deal decent damage to him before expiring.
Otherwise no, they're not useful.
>>528097582only time I used an item like that was in Bloodborne's shark double trouble.
>>528097656you did, ggs brotha
idk how to play casters against this fucker, he just keeps zooming around nonstop making all non-homing projectiles whiff
i missed like half my pizza throws
>>528097369>and reviving teammates has a backended drop to team dps that is avoided by doing a lot more damageNot the other guy, but your argument is only true if you can DPS bosses before they can dish damage to your team
So unless you can nuke a Nightlord in 5 seconds, the boss WILL damage you and/or your team, and the boss WILL down your teammates, making the role of Guardian not a drawback, but a necessity.
Not everything in this game revolves around dealing damage.
>>528097582You can throw one on the pumpkin head in royal knight camps and he farms the chaff while you kill the knights, then you can finish him off for more runes.
>>528097727>She has the double dodge but her dagger combos are still long and committalcan't she dodge mid-combos?
>>528097046Ok but it really is bad though
>>528097001Wylder is more like putting on the training wheels kek
>>528097965Yes but iirc if you do the full dodge it interrupts the combo so it loses a lot of value against some bosses
>>528097995why does this post smell like burnt chicken
>>528095643What? When?
>>528095506Silence raj
would you be upset if another revenant joined erg queue
is it tainted by normies
>>528098194i've unironically seen like 2 or 3 names that i havent seen before today but that's it
>>528098194The only bad runs I've had were from people clearly phoning it in just trying to get their side characters' quests/achievement done
>>528095643VA is omega british but Miyazaki has this thing for slavs so they forced her to try and sound like one, he will never recreate Dolle/Maria no matter how hard he tries since the VA is dead
>>528098334Dead as in stopped being a VA or what?
>>528086321>it is good to have you, once againawwwwwww
>>528098050its just the double-dodge that cucks your combo. if you can manage stamina and only dodge once instead of roll spamming you can get that dagger relic off all the time.
>>528096351because she sucks and most people that play her just want to jerk off to loli feet
Do people normally assume when you ping the demon merchant that you mean you want to fight him?
Or are my randoms really that retarded
>>528098420dead as in not alive anon
>>528095643Didn't they reuse this VA dozens of times? I didn't know that accent was slav but it's really unsexy
this boss is impossible with randos
>>528098438but i do want to fight him...
>>528097905Not having a guardian results in less scenarios where you have 2 players at two or more bars with the boss at 40% hp or higher. And all of the characters can revive with arts while also contributing. And no tanking is not a contribution when 1. everything can be iframed anyway and 2. nightlords all attack the entire team anyway in this game. His tanking doesn't even work when you've got an ironeye or raider regardless. Again this is not an mmo raid where you need a tank and a healer, guardian is hardly even that survivable either. He's not solo'ing 50% of giga adel's hp like a melee class can.
>>528098467what happened?
>>528098438if you're making deals with him, the retard is closer than you think.
>>528098501Isn't the only filter the tornado spring thing? If one of you lived and then revive the others, the fight is pretty much finished.
>>528098552death happened
>>528098430I think we just said the same thing
>get a seal with Law of Regression on it
use case?
>>528094537it means what it says, retard
>>528097668Yes because it's my fault rejection is on 66% of catalyst drops.
Or that her ult manages to be a worse guardian ult on a caster who has to actually consider fp, unlike recluse, while using summons that completely fold against any lord. I would genuinely take the bird over her in ANY bossfight.
Psn bros I'm hopping on. Giga gape as usual unless everyone is sick of getting ancient dragon day 2 eag time.
>>528098710trolling the randos by voiding their buffs
>>5280936824. hes voiced by a jeet
oh wait that’s bad
>>528094001based triggerer of avianjeets
>>528098334I don't think she has a slav accent. It might sound like it because of her Ts like when she says
>whaT is eT? you can Tell meBut most speakers of romanic languages have accents like that. She doesn't really have a french accent, but her character feels french.
Also, Wylder DOES have a slight french accent.
why dont ESLs just learn how to talk better
>>528098684NTA but my biggest issue isn't people dying to the tornado, it's when they try to flask through the tornado and drag Adel into the damage zone. The randoms lose all their resources and I can't do any damage to Adel because he's not in the safe zone.
>>528098949at times like these voice chat is objectively a good thing.
hop on the fucking battle bus. now.
please bro just one more evergaol
>>528086896>what were they thinkingLike with so many other things in this game, they weren’t
dutch ass is also the bitch from demons souls and the BB doll right?
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B-b-but it already starts... starts with that...
>>528099153not every french-looking wench is the same person anon
>>528084793Not really but remember no refunds
I was too focused on passives instead of just using the best gun I can find. So many wasted purples and yellows. I practically never keep my starting weapon anymore.
I only play solo or with irl family/friends
>>528099323I only fap to recluse or to mommy marika
>>528099153different VA (the doll's VA isn't dead that other guy was trolling)
But yeah she's fanservice for like every female level-up companion. She's firekeeperbait, mariabait and dollbait all in one
Is it just me or are they more liberal with bleed resistance in this than in elden rape?
>>528098110what the fuck does that mean
>>528085540meds retard
>>528086269cough up the money first :^)
>>528099459Bleed damage is nerfed in co-op so you feel the effect of resistance buildup more in this game.
>>528099478it means youre a malding guardian main
>>528097582its good in one of duchess' rememberance fights where you need to do a gank fight, you can branch the summons to have them kill each other/the boss
>>528099479but i already paid for the gamu Mr. Chinguchongu Nip-san
>>528099459>Is it just me or are they more liberalYes. Fromsoft has gone woke ever since Bloodborne and Type A/B bullshit.
I always use rivers of blood if I can, regardless of what boss or nightlord we're fighting.
It's the only thing I know for real, simple as.
gargoyles need to stop jumping the fuck around
>>528099537No I'm not wylder is just piss easy there are no learning curves no nothing you just pick him and go all willy billy through the game he has no redeem qualities
>doing Arch Tempered Adel on Revenant
>get Morgott's Sword, drop it for Executor
>get Jump Attack talisman, drop it for Raider
>in the Spirit Shelter they both drop me x2 Starlight Shards
who here /teamwork/
>>528098753legitimate skill issue
>>528088161Every Executor I’ve played with wears that, actually. It reflects their spiritual selves (female).
>>528088462Cope. It’s plenty in character for Execucktioners.
>>528099627same
I will L2 until the button breaks
>>528099697Wylder is the hardest character in the game
>>528099627>It's the only thing I know for realIt's not even infusable with Lightning
>>528091476>drunkard is a degenerate dbd playerwow, shocker
>duchess using seal when our revenant could use it better
>never uses anything else
>dies constantly to the most clearly telegraphed attacks
erg really has been infested by shitters since the wiki password leak, what the fuck
Guardian players lashing out at wylder and executor now.
>>528099718I hate the curved greatswords desu I've had teammates drop morgott's sword several runs and I almost never use it. I'll take an antspur rapier or eleonora's poleblade.
I only player Wylder. And yes, I do main Ryu.
give me a different password and I WILL queue into it as revenant
running after the boss just to get 1 or 2 hits in is just not fun
>>528088462I moreso meant havel and solaire
>>528099459yeah, it makes sense to nerf it though with how many weapons can have it
does anyone else want to just quit the game out of embarrassment when the gaping dragon grabs you?
>>528092940Borderline scribbles but I appreciate the hand drawn effort. Pretty nice.
>>528100103No I build toughness so my teammates have a window to spam.
>>528099909just gacha the affinities
>>528100103the gaping dragon grabs everyone eventually
but it's survivable, although people should try to bust you out
I live it on revenant and saw a duchess survive it
>>528099909Just use a weapon with adds lightning passive in off hand
>>528100040You have 6 weapons, surely one of them has projectile or ranged AoW?
>>528099791No hardest character is Guardian then Revetone he's very time based more than executor and if you don't time well defenses you lose you need to understand and learn the character he's very hard to get right but when done correctly hes a Great asset for the team
>>528100103Never happened to me.
Unless you mean Adel. He grabs me more than I'd like to admit...
>>528100038Revenant's are welcome just don't queue as guardian.
>>528100143wtf do you mean "borderline scribbles", that's peak OC
>>528092940kino and canon
>>528096456All of the unique somber/legendary weapon passives and changes just makes me hate all the balancing shit they did to the main game. So many weapon here feel amazing compared to ER.
>>528099983>I do main Ryu.In the current state of sf6?
That's like saying you mained abigail in season 3 of SFV
Absolute degenerate behavior
>>528098550>His tanking doesn't even work when you've got an ironeye or raider regardlessYou definely can but you need to actively attack the boss not merely shieldbotting
>guardian is hardly even that survivable either.Elemental chip damage thru block is true but doesnt mean Guardian is not super tanky, compared to other classes, including Raider, he's the tankiest class by a long mile
>>528096351They do? I like her for the porn honestly
>>528100040there's a reason he's weak to poison
>>528100103He can be surprisingly swift with the grab
What relics should I look for with wylder? I love using great swords and his grapple is a lot of fun but I feel like I’m lacking in damage
i go out of my way to not use larger weapons on revenant because i dont wanna be judged
biggest i can do is a straight sword
>>528100463everdark ver isn't though, he just runs around while poisoned. doesn't vomit-stun ever.
>>528097242It’s not a hoodie, fag
>>528097837>Bloodborne’s shark double troubleMan… those were the days…
What are they gonna put here?
>>528100546he takes more damage from poison, and poisoning him means hes taking damage even when zoom zooming around
>>528100546it's still super easy to proc and all his time-wasting is just free damage for poison
I've also heard it cancels out his grab buff, but that might just be the poison effect concealing it
>>528100645expeditions
its in the name
>>528098334>Miyazaki has this thing for slavs so they forced her to try and sound like oneWhy would Miyazaki have oversight on what VAs did or didn’t do for this game? I thought Ishizaki was making that call?
>>528099791now this is a new wyldernegro cope
>>528100645The relic fusion station
Uses Zaki murk
I'd queue but I jut finished three runs with friends and /erg/ has been... dangerous to queue in for the past 24 hours.
>>528100645That's the evereverdark shop
if I namedrop myself and say queue people are gonna think I'm too good for erg queue...
>>528100787You're saying Wylder clips don't go hard? Come on now, he's the coldest character in game.
>>528100645it will be the DLC room
>>528100289If means exactly what it says. I still like it but it’s undeniably not a detailed drawing.
>>528099697>he has no redeem qualitiessaar
>>528100645I thought it had something to do with remembrances because I haven't done 5 characters yet.
I've yet to even play as Iron Eye and Recluse.
>>528100496his remembrance ones are very good (except for the silver tear)
>>528100887I already think you think you're too good for erg queue
>>528100995what the fuck no...
I just wanna play with erg and not randoms
>>528100426A player who is savvy with the boss' moves and can dodge everything will outlive guardian tanking everything with his shield and getting whittled down by elemental damage. The more difficult content they put out the more apparent it will be. A good wylder or executor can solo an entire nightlord from 100% health in multiplayer, I may be wrong but I don't think guardian is capable of using his shield for that long without eventually dying, doing almost no damage in that time and gasping for breath.
>my vacation is over
nooooo I dont want to go back to work I want to keep playing nightyreign with my erg frens nooOOOOOOOOOO FUUUUUUUUCCCKKKK
>>528099697every single character is easy, thinking otherwise is pure cope
>>528099153no idiot it’s a separate character just reused design
>>528101047Something along the lines of
>>528100645with jut an image and the queue is good enough, anon
Not for me though, it's bed time.
>>528089057>"real pick">DuchessLOL throw her down in meme with Executor.
2/3 eternally for master gape psn. Somebody please join.
>>528089057I've seen 2 very good Revs.
I've never seen a good executor.
>>528099605 (me)
oops i meant to say since dark souls 3 silly me haha
>>528100198Only bows get that and it only applies to the bow.
>>528073696 (OP)There a guide for elden ring that just tells you where to go? I hate the early early game so fucking much and I hate this games open world.
>>528101257my point remains unchanged
>>528101431yeah it's called the yellow lines on your map
>>528101106Back in the wage cage, cuckie
I’m going back in two weeks too but I intend to savor the rest of my time
>>528101431Just fight bosses and do caves, yo.
the yellow line on the map is the guidance of grace and it leads to most of the cool shit
>>528101496From the first time I played them they're bullshit
>>528101567I am a bigger fan of the slightly linear nature of the actual souls games than this open world crap.
>>528101719i think you're just retarded, the map already tells you everything and you could just search
>>528101589Yeah it leads you to Margit early, but you either
>git gudor
>go elsewhere exploring the map to find new gear, do dungeons, and level up
>>528101084>A player who is savvy with the boss' moves and can dodge everything will outlive guardian tanking everything with his shield and getting whittled down by elemental damage.Of course, the apex of this game is rollslop as per usual.
>>528098710Adel buffs himself if he can get a bleed proc off. Tree Sentinel and Loretta buff themselves. It can cancel those.
Does it cancel Libra's buffs?
>>528101719the best of filters, and it seems to work well.
This game needs Moore's Shield as a legendary greatshield and it should be so insanely good that guardians get to feel special.
>>528101824The apex is parryslop actually because it looks cool
>>528101924sekiro sequel when
>>528090838>wylder invaderhe DEFINITELY can
>>528101431just watch a let's play
>>528101824>>528101924Apex is positioningslop with iron balls/star fists.
Again.
Jumping and low-profiling included.
>>528101901All of them are such movable bosses. If the incant also nullifies your friends' buffs, it's pretty much useless in a no-pvp environment
>>528101924Parryslop AND rollslop
Feels like Dark Souls 1 again!
>you can use caligo's ice pillars (that he summons for some reason) to dodge his breath
yep you will be forced to do this 30x on his epic ultimate forma
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>>528077359Just last night. Gonna see how we end up tonight.
>>528101824The core of this game's combat loop and one that has existed since the nes is dodge and hit. I don't know why people get so up in arms over such a classic game convention, an era of which every souls game harkens back to. The skill is in not getting hit.
>>528102163You could also just dodge it
They should give you some of the new currency for dying at the enhanced boss too.Making it exclusive for winning is pretty unreasonable given how many things you can buy with it and the success rate of randoms, and mostly just encourages those good enough to beat it to do so solo to actually farm the currency. If I want to actually engage with the new rewards I feel like I should just get to running it solo a bunch and that feels like the wrong message to send to players.
>>528102203You never owned an nes.
>>528102203The skill is actually in getting hit and doing damage at the same time.
Hyperarmor gods > No-Hit chumps
>>528102328holy shit the cope per word on this post is insane
>>528093682Double rev/guardian
double guardian/rev
seems absolutely dog
>>528102203invincibility in nes games was usually a temporary power-up or one-time super move kind of thing, I can't think of anything that did "rollslop" as it's usually called
maybe the metroid screw attack counts
>>528102340Who here has? That's something my uncles owned. I'm not too young to have gone back and played some of them or witnessed their impact on gameboy and gba games.
>fucking lag city
>bosses gliding all over the place
>half of boss drops desync and dont appear
>controller connection dropping every 5 seconds
what a shitty run, surprised we even made it to the final boss at all
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A bit overkill
>>528102203I guess the frustration spawns from how ultimate yet silly it feels and looks
>iframes from any position. If you roll and have enough iframes, even if the enemy's weapon slams against you, it'll just harmlessly go through >little stamina use and since Dark Souls 3 no increments on following rolls, little commitment If you can roll, you can dodge almost anything, from massive weapons to lasers. Parrying has the advantage of not looking nearly as silly and a bigger risk vs reward situation, much more aggressive too as it damages the enemy's stance
Should I buy this? Is it going to be some FOMO shit that gets cycled out for the next boss's relic?
>>528102604totally worthless relic too. you have more than enough chances to get a full inventory of shards throughout the run, and if youre using them before the final boss, you just suck
Guardian's charged guard counter should be usable on lances and HTS too
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The fuck does this mean?
It's on Bolt of Grandsex. The thing thats skill is literally throwing lightning
>>528102552>Who here has?me
t. 30 year old
This game raises my blood pressure way more than Elden Ring ever did, at least there when I get dumpstered I can try again in a few seconds and know what build I have. Meanwhile everytime I get a good build in Nightreign my team eats shit and dies. I had two Holy Greatswords on my Wylder.....
am I throwing if I take sorceries on duchess and just spamming moons while I restage the heavy spells?
>>528102589>half of boss drops desync and dont appearHappened to me earlier today, and it had never happened before that. Maybe this bug came with the patch.
>>528102794no, she has A in int
>>528102749it buffs the weapon like a grease.
>>528102552Im old enough that I got the NES at NA release when I was 4 years old
>>528102604it really is, it's a wasted relic slot
>>528094584>At the nightlord the Raider decides he wants to be an archer and runs away the entire fightHad very similar experience
>run going great>big damage >head into nocturnal city>clear it >circle closing>maybe time to hit Loretta >I'm archer and my wylder are trying to burn it down >no sign of 2nd wylder>I get knocked down>Notice in getting revived by 2nd wylder sitting a mile away shooting Greatbow >I become enraged because he is doing shit damage and has a Moghs Blood spear that would have melted Loretta clone.>we can't down her in time because the wylder wanted to pretend to be a sniper
>>528102724The rune acquisition is like 300 runes
what the fuck was that nigger
>>528102630I've honestly always hated the traditional souls parry. It's pretty silly, you wave your shield like "wah-la!" and the enemy stumbles on the ground and you get a riposte for 12,000,000 damage. It's always felt like a mechanic designed for the PvP first and then put in for enemies and bosses except it doesn't work on most bosses. The deflect tear in ER is 100x better than the traditional parry.
>>528102483Rolls are just a dodge with iframes. But the iframes are just something that became more common with 3d games with the extra dimension. In older 2d ones a dash or just positioning by walking are effectively serving the same purpose. Megaman X and especially the zero games are a very easy comparison to the souls boss combat loop, except they lack as discernable of tells and would make video essayists cry about unfair/artificial difficulty.
You gotta be shitting me
all that work, and we wipe
>>528102735they're good for clearing castle knights at low-ish lvl without stopping to refill FP
>>528102604>>528102856If the third one was 'start with item pouch' it'd be fucking goated though.
>>528096367You are a fucking retard lol
>>528102882>>528102909clip it.
>>528102889oot had a dodge roll too and it's pretty useful in that game even though it's not hard enough to warrant using.
>>528100645Some other stupid fomo slop, this is genuinely the worst souls game of all time and nothing will ever come close
>>528102909not gonna lie? I didn't even know his rapid teleport cancer was an attack
I've never seen anyone get hit by it but he pretty much just instakilled 2 of us
>>528101084>>528101824This cope is based on the idea that Guardian can't also roll slop, and ignores that he blocks/counters/heals when he knows he won't take damage and will instead recover it.
This fight is unironically easier solo. I'm not trolling, it actually is.
>>528103030it is?
i spread misinformation i guess. unless you're talking about the finale of it?
>>528103021Why are you in this thread?
>>528102589I'm sorry Recluse/Weaboo, we had a good run. I tried to keep Gaping marked but I gues that kept drawing the aggro. The tornado I can't figure out. I was inside it and taking damage both earlier and now, do you actually NEED to spirit spring inside of it? Or can you just be in the circle when he spawns it?
Adel is the worst boss and I'm angry he's the first Super Niglord we have to fight, I just want Super Goat
>>528102203Except thats wrong. Its roll slop, parry slop, and hard mode blocking. The only thing that needs to be fixed here is that blocking never adds any type of chip damage. Now all three defensive types are fair.
>>528103138I mean this is also the base Elden Ring thread
His anger is really, really funny though
>finna get carried by PSbros
Let's get to it
>>528102483Whether the game uses a literal dodge roll button or Castlevania jump arcs is pretty irrelevant. The point of his post was about the design intent. The skill test is the same: read the boss animations, react to startups, avoid the move, hit the boss
Man just fucking imagine how bad the souped up Maris fight is going to be
>>528103138I like to laugh at retards, its my form of getting my money back from this waste of space
dlc needs a guy who jumps super high with his default jump so the game becomes jumpslop
>>528103097If guardian is just dodging everything then he isn't tanking.
>>528103030nah during the teleporting apparently it does a lot of damage if he decides to spawn on top of you for any of his 7 warps
gg skill issue i guess i shouldve just rolled the instantaneous multiwarp attack
>>528103220>marisyawn
i want to see the duo insect
>>528103220Probably gonna involve more jellyfish/tentacle summon shenanigans.
>>528103162nah you did fine. tornado is a bit weird, but you need to run out when its spawning and then jump/run back in afterwards
>>528103242Tanking = Taking aggro and avoiding damage and you take aggro dealing damage. You can also separate attacks you take chip from, from ones you don't and get good.
>>528103113it depends, with Wylder or Raider? definitely. with Revenant it's a pain in the balls, one small fuckup and it's over.
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>I like to laugh at retards, its my form of getting my money back from this waste of space
>>528103162eye of the storm; it hurts as it starts, then is safe after its started
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>>528103113it is
game is more boring solo though
Does ironeye get faster attacks with great bows? should they be given the legendary greatbow or should i keep for the beneficial passive?
I was thinking about giving radahns bow to the last ironeye in my game but he only had 2 weapons on him at the nightlord so i said nah and played around with it a bit.
>>528103331Every character is a tank by your definition
>>528103162I think you can actually tank the hurricane's formation with the...whichever crystal tear gives you HP when you take damage
>>528103402Man that's communicated badly in the actual fight
>>528103428Yes welcome to Souls, first time?
>>528103462All the fights mechanics are badly communicated, its mostly just trial by error and Estus are your 'here you know better now, dont get hit again'.
>>528097369I think most of you don't understand how to play certain characters or can't not understand the benefits of playing other things. Sure Guardian does less damage but he does huge stagger damage and can heal and give invulnerability to dps a boss.
do bosses in the rot forest give less runes or something? I can't seem to hit level 15 whenever it's the rot forest
>>528103551>Sure Guardian does less damageSource not provided
>>528103238Maybe eventually we'll evolve into soupdodge, like in Splatoon, and we'll call it slopslop
>>528103627Bosses themselves don't really give as many runes as people think they do, you get a ton of runes from 'trash mobs' and the forest is basically just a boss rush.
>spawn in
>they ping fort south of us
>ok well that is further away than what we spawned on top of and we have no casters who need the staves but theres an evergoial right next to it, good call we can do that after
>they finish fort then skip evergoal, they didnt even hit chests as they ran past
it was at this point i decided to do my own thing for day 1. not like you NEED 3 people to hit regular camps on day 1,
>>528103021Elden ring base game was actual dogshit and nightreign is ..........
fun
had a good run, poison weapons, level 14. yet can't beat enhanced adel. wtf? my teammates always end up at 3 bars before he's at half health
>>528103757trash mobs = the castle
>>528103113It's literally just knowing about the tornado thing draining your health, no shit it's easier solo since you know what you're doing while everyone just waste their resources hugging his leg while he rapes their health.
>>528103793Very true but the opposite
>>528103627how many field bosses are you killing there?
>>528103627I've noticed this too
I think you just have to clear castle day 1 to make up for the fact that the bosses drop so few runes
how do I routepath? when should we do the castle? should we just do the top boss and run?
DPS, parry and rollslop brainrot is strong in this general.
>All three players break up on day 1 and are only middlingly successful
This is so common on Adel Sovereign runs. It's wild to me. At this level, you should know that at minumum maintaining a duo is better. I just had a Wylder run off to fight a basic fieldboss instead of clearing camps with me during day 1 morning. He wouldn't even reroute to fetch a flask when we were both nearby one.
>>528103793No base game elden ring was empty space punctuated by George RRs garbage storytelling made palatable by nice japanese men
and it was easy as fuck don't delude yourself it wasn't good
>>528103813randoms in my games often dont even pick up items for their passive bonus. my last group had crucible knight castle and we skipped it to hit some ruins
>scarab runs away and I miss my running attacks
alt f4
>die twice to the same enemy
alt f4
>open first evergaol on day 1 and it's some retarded enemy
alt f4
>miss the jump against the fire chariots 2-3 times
alt f4
>level lost
alt f4
>level lost (locust)
alt f4
>morgott invasion
alt f4
>troll castle + bell bearing hunter in the sewers
alt f4
>3 churches on 3 different corners of the map
alt f4
>any shifting earth
alt f4
>>528103996>Implying this game could be anything but that Its literally damage over time due to bad rolls vs total damage dealt.
>>528104071Okay so CAN WE ALL AGREE to stop going to the castle sewers WHEN WE'RE APPROACHING FROM THE FRONT?
IT ISN'T WORTH THE FUCKING GAMBLE OF IT BEING BBH. JUST STOP.
>>528096812works on revenant too. 2 bleeds per skill use lmao
>>528104071The greatest of skill issues, one to rule as king
>>528104071based. do NOT let the game waste your time, king.
>>528104059>>528103813If you always perform the same, and lets say pull your weight and deal 33% of the bosses HP as damage before you die, then everything in this game is just a statistical dice roll on 2 other guys being another 66% of competence.
Tldr just keep playing at the best of your ability and you will win eventually. Its a numbers game, the more you run the more successes you'll have.
>>528103996damage is the only thing that matters
having a damage-meter is justified to weed out shitters
>>528103915I think that's generally pretty reasonable to hit 15 with. Like the other anon said, make an effort to quickly kill trash mobs between field bosses and that might put you past the threshold. I think I also oftentimes end up spending like half of day 1 in the castle when I get forest shifting earths, which of course is a very rune-dense location.
>>528104178...it fckn is worth the gamble though?
>>528104318"damage is the only thing that matters"
He says as he goes down with 3 bars but gets revived by a Rev/Birb ult
>>528104261>alt f4>restart the game >many logos>loading screen>spawn into Roundtable >select expedition >wait for it to boot. If not alone, wait two other players>Loading screen>Bird taxi doesn't let go>Land >See scarab >Miss attack>Alt f4>repeat
>>528104178It's not like you're contractually obligated to fight him if you're level 5. Just check if it's an easy boss and, if it isn't, do a 360 and hit the legs. If it is, enjoy your free talisman and nice castle route.
>>528104517thats wrong, the order of events goes like this:
>alt f4thats it. and then you go do anything else.
>>528104498doesn't happen and boss would die faster with an actually viable character
>>528104538exactly.
also level 5 is usually enough to fuck up anything that isn't a BBH in my experience.
>WORLDS FIRST Elden Ring Nightreign Enhanced Gaping Jaw/Adel BARE FISTS only kill.
>>528104606>doesn't happenDont worry I won't tell anyone that you went down with 3 bars while mindlessly spamming attacks at the boss
>>528104318>damage is the only thing that mattersNo. Damage and damage mitigation/avoidance is what matters. No one goes hit-less but a tiny fraction of the player base who do not post here and you will never see them in-game.
>>528103996The entire game is structured around DPS checks because you're on a constantly ticking timer.
>>528104603like browsing erg?
Ermmm any PSbros for Adel?
is password erg still safe? or should we try a new one?
>>528102749Misleading text. What it actually does is give a reduced effectiveness version of the ash of war when you do a jumping heavy with it.
>>528104813compromised
we're using niggerg now
>>528103928think 3 steps ahead.
>try and pick a route where you have constant forward momentum and minimize back tracking>keep in mind casters need their items from cathedral/forts>non casters should do a ruin that has boss weakness element if one exists>should do an evergoal at around lvl 3-4 (if you are a good team) so picking a ruin near one is good>having a church near a ruin you are heading to is ideal>having a tower on your route is nice too if you have a caster>Ideally you are pathing into areas where the rain isnt coming into yet. a lot of people want to run to the ruin thats about to be rained on (because we cant do it once it rains) as if you are going to do every ruin on the map and doubling back is somehow worth it. You can check castle basement by 6 if you have a good team. i like to check the basement asap, but you can hold off if ruins you need are nearby. skip if its briar knight, you got unlucky, maybe do mobs around castle. come back to do briar + roof boss day 2, or skip entirely and do earthshifting event day 2 if that exists.
>>528103813just use holy or magic instead for him the poison mechanic only works on easy mode phase 1
>h000w
>>528104813it's very safe ;)
>>528104318I'm all for kit variety but having more than 1 of these "utility characters" on your team just feels fucking horrendous.
Not to mention guardian and executor are kind of sauceless and rev has no fp regen
I WILL keep queueing as recluse and NOBODY can stop me
>>528104645Pretty sure you're mixing it up with the dragon cragblade
>>528102735on the complete contrary, if you are not using them before the final boss you're probably griefing or didn't get enough and are slowing the run down
>>528105079SLAAAAAAY KWEEN (gender neutral)!!!!
>>528105079are you one the slutty or pure ones?
>>528105006>not using statusesdude he's weak to ... fckn everything.
>>528105297>>528105006I always just play Executioner with Frost+Bleed as starting weapon because damage > everything.
>>528105254I'm a slutty rev
>>528105297adel is not particularly weak to anything, he's just very strong vs lightning
Why the fuck is Hole Star immune to Bleed?! FUCK this game.
>>528105091>>528105210oh right i am sorry haha oops
>>528105403i meant weak to status effects. he has 154 for poison, rot and frost. well and sleep but no one uses that.
>>528105403slutty revenants don't exist
all revenants are pure and pristine idols of virtue
>>528105552oh fair enough
>>528105585totally!
>>528105403Revs can't be sluts, they are pure and angelic
Any other Physical Attack+2 fans here? My dream setup is to stack 3 of them.
I just like that it lets me jump to basically any weapon I find as Wylder. Variety is more fun.
If I load in with an Ironeye and an Executor I just assume the run is over from minute 0.
>>528105297>>528105403you wont bleed him and like I said magic and holy in general the best youre going to get
>>528105585holy mother of awooga
>>528105687because they're that good and an autowin?
>>528105679I want cum deep inside his boywomb
Enhanced Gaping Jaw feels like all the worst aspects of an Arch Tempered ecpedition in Monster Hunter combined. FromSoft needs to tone the raid boss bullshit down a little, because they clearly are not experienced enough to implement it correctly. A good example would be Caligo's attack where the players are supposed to hide behind rocks. Since the Night Lords move around the arena so damn much, it's often hard to tell where they are and what they are doing. It took multiple fights for me to notice that there were even rocks to hide behind, and even then, the attack isn't strong enough to justify hiding from in the first place.
Complaining aside, the three expeditions I did for the new boss were the best I ever had in regards to teamwork and efficiency. I'll gladly do the other enhanced Night Lords if the randoms I play with are consistently of this quality. Nightreign has the chance to be something special. I hope FromSoft eventually adds DLC enemies for more variety, but time will tell.
>>528102749You can either press L2 to throw a bolt or hold L2 to charge the bolt. If you charge it the weapon will retain a lightning buff after throwing.
>>528105679I feel like more than 75% of weapons are somber weapons with innate, nonphysical damage
>>528103928>>528105002>>528105002>>try and pick a route where you have constant forward momentum and minimize back trackingConsider spiurithawk routes though. This is the next tier of routing. S tier routes employ hawks sometimes
>>528105812Yeah but the physical damajj still gets buffed
>>528105793No crossplay is fucking killing me. WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!
Why does no one here choose good characters?
>>528086896They don't understand that if you're playing ironeye you will get aggroed 99% of the times so you have to be really good at dodging
Just checked out Oro stream. I thought he was supposed to be good at souls? he's so bad at dutchess. never using her restage. never using her ult.
I bet it's people who play like him who think dutchess is bad
>>528105934i choose guardian though?
>>528105934I like a challenge, and I like to challenge you (non-consensual)
>>528105934which characters are good?
10 expeditions with randos against the nu adel. Absolutely miserable so far.
>>528105934game is easy who cares
it just feels like people think they're too good for day 1 churches now and nobody bothers to even try to get them unless they're right in front they always want to go castle immediately day 1 and ignore churches, then wonder why we fucking die before we even get to night 1 because we have no flask charges and are runniing around in the fucking rain
>>528106092wylder raider ironeye are meta
if I see a recluse I know its over
never see anybody play bird anymore
revenants like to melee rather than cast on the final boss and end up dying with 3 bars multiple times over the fight (and they never use their ult to res)
executors are the most mentally weak players and will dc on you for the most trivial of bullshit
Dutchess needs the top 3 meta as teammates to be viable (but shes not completely useless)
>>528106258>skip first camp>skip church>skip mine>go castle>skip gaols
>>528085192Regular gameplay is fun, but when the run is good I wish I could take a couple cracks at the boss.
>>528105793I honestly don't get what the point of this game is when MH does everything it does but better. Especially the fights themselves, that lack both the soulful character of the monsters and well designed fights which MH has.
Anon surprised me with a 2nd Godfrey's Axe start of day 3.
>>528106258>>528106386>skip game>never lose a night Outplayed, get good.
>>528104781Me. I'm re-queue'd.
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>>528105903I agree with you there. I've been playing Elden Ring again on PS5, and it's hard to get summoned at level 150 right now. FromSoft really needs to fix this shit. Recent games like Space Marine 2 have crossplay, and I have no problem matching with other players because of it.
>>528106405because monster hunter is FUCKING GAY GO FUCK YOUR STUPID CAT SLAVE RETARD GO WATCH HIM COOK YUMMY MEALS FAGGOT, ACTUAL TRANNIES PLAY THAT GAME WHAT ARE YOU AN ENABLER PIECE OF SHIT ?
>>528085192people think they are entitled to win
>300,000 vs 1,300,000 players
Anon never did well at school but we forgave him anyway.
>Don't have PS plus
>Can't play Super Adel because I can't play the game in online mode without it
>but also still can't pause the game despite it being offline
Thanks I hate it.
>>528106461>gee how come mom lets you wield two legendaries?kek didn't know you had one already good shit
>>528085192Problem is Ive played Elden Ring to oblivion and back and so everything aside from the final bosses and the nightfarers is old hat to me. And honestly even the nightlords are starting to get boring for me.
>>528106405i never played monster hunter so idk
but it's fun
>>528101084guard counters are busted
the only thing keeping them from being as busted as in ER is not being able to always run crimson tear and dagger talismans
>>528106747You would love MH then
>>528106596>mainline MH game vs B team spinoff >ignoring the important part of the image
>>528106519Damn, are those Wilds' actual numbers? I was so excited for that game, too. Capcom went so overboard with the QoL that I don't think the expansion will save it.
Oh, and the game looks like and runs like shit.
>>528106809it's the C-Team actually
>>528101406every time I check when someone says this is empty
Monster Hunter WIlds mogs the shit out of Trannyreign. Trannyreign wouldn't last that long as the numbers are dwindling down day by day and faster than MHW.
why the fuck are you retards talking about steam charts? christ this general is worse than /v/
>>528106149i did this for like 10 hours until i got my first win i think.
get a cup of coffee. good luck.
>>528106809>Wilds WonWe know.
>>528106809so why did you use that image lmao
>>528106897Well for one as much as I like Reign it has fuck all content and there isn't much else to talk about. New boss sucks, what else.
Wilds is winning so hard you have to beg players here to play your game
>>528106897I think it’s because of the content update.
Expect this for a while, every new dark lord.
>>528106805it's in my backlog
everything's postponed though cause i'm having so much fun in nightreign
>>528102604Honestly I feel like I've never used more than one or two shards on a nightlord anyway. Even ED Adel dies too quick.
>>528107135Oh I WILL be here complaining when Maris drops, no way that boss fight is good.
>>528106897Are you seriously asking that on a video game related 4chan thread? There’s always a thirdie obsessed with them everywhere
sub 60k player peak and I'll draw Tranny doll jak character acking
>>528106149Kek opposite for me, I did some runs with my friends and we just couldn't get it done. First game I played with randoms we killed him. I had to take the last of the boss down myself, but we got through the first two days level 15 with 180K runes to spare. The randos knew what they were doing in the regular game they just got fucked by the tornado.
>>528106664>Don't have PS plusStop being poor.
>but also still can't pause the game despite it being offlineSmall indie company + no refunds + thanks for 40 dollars.
Wait does this mean you can’t get Dark Augur out of the sleep nuke with lightning or prevent ground swords with Dark Fulghor?
>Get teammates that know Adel's AoE patterns and know how to use the Spiritspring
>Kill Adel
Finally. Felt good to path through the Rotted Woods and just tear the shit out of everything that was there.
>>528102757>>528102853Stop posting you crotchety old farts
>>528102028Never. Not everything needs a sequel you megacuck
>>528107438how do they fix that? It's literally the only "hard" part of the fight.
>>528107559Sekiro does though because it’d be really fun even if the story is perfectly fine where it’s at.
>>528105934but i play exec wylder raider and ironeye
>am ironeye
>kill scarab, pick up lord of blood talisman
>drop it for executor and ping it
>revenant looks at me and picks it up
tiresome
>>528107559>>528107598sekiro needs a sequel but its not following wolf
>>528103236Good post
>>528103793Neither are true
At best they’re both moderate levels of garbage with some very brief upsides
>>528107686Phase three is nothingburger, people seems to die to the tornado than Adel himself
>>528107438I just got the tear that converts damage to health, because those AOE attacks are bullshit. The player should be able to visually discern where it's safe and where it isn't.
>>528104912Why are you lying
>>528107781Are you talking about the little lightning bolts after the phase change
>>528105203Omg this is so gender affirming!
>>528105772Boys don’t have wombs
>>528107781just jump the purple lines
How can they expect me to play any other character when Wylder is the best?
>>528107920Iron eye is better and gayer
>>528105903Like with so many other things in this game, they weren't.
>>528106705>And honestly even the nightlords are starting to get boring for meuh oh
calling all shills engage damage control protocol!!!!!
>>528107920Raider can tank attacks and punch really hard.
>>528107229No you won’t. Don’t make promises you can’t keep.
>>528107747Feels like it's a combination of
>Tornado somehow kills people as it expands (how?)>Chip damage from standing outside the tornado kills people, they don't understand what to do>Adel does his three-ground slam AoE attack>Adel does his electric burst AoE attack>Adel does his double grab attack (I didn't know he would aim for me!)and all that leads to an untenable situation where people don't know how to survive, much less figure out a time to attack. Plus Adel's running all over the damn place so it's hard to keep a lock on him on top of all this. Mentally overwhelming the player was a criticism of Promised Consort Radahn, but all players really need to do is pay attention and learn instead of panic.
>>528106852Because MH is Capcom’s fash grab franchise that they know they can shit out and still makes a gorillion dollars from. Resident Evil is their real magnum opus that they’re getting everyone’s cocks hard and pussies wet for.
>>528107368Everdark Fulghor doesn't even use the lightning spear anymore (at least once he leaves phase 2), so I don't think he has a stun window.
>>528076130One spot people never seem to check for those is down the stairs hidden by illusory walls in the ruins. It'll often have 3 of the good chests and it's possible to get like 3~4 talismans in one go if you run in there with a white chicken leg.
>>528108553I didn't even know that was a thing. Is that in every ruin?
>>528108753Nope, they're somewhat rare I'd say, since I've started keeping an eye out for them in every ruin I visit. But they're exactly like the ones the regular Elden Ring
>fatman casts his epic pillar of DPS loss and blocks my charged spell
>we all just stand around and wait for the boss to come down off of the top of the pillar
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>>528085192it depends
if I'm learning a new character, or if I'm playing a character I like for some random fun, it doesn't feel like a waste
if my objective is to beat a specific nightlord, in a remembrance or now with the enhanced bosses, or when it's a tough boss I'm trying to learn on my own without checking guides and I really want to get back into it to figure it out, it does
