Thread 528243058

Cool chicken edition!

>Demo Days
Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-62
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>528169627

The bochi avatarfag nodev is the worst poster in here, he has no life, no game and spams 24/7, sad!

Waiting on Godot 5

Let's make some progress today. Shall we?

>>528243184
Shut up, fag. They're just reaction images, nobody cares.

>>528241489
that's great, less competition for my game
>>528243184
cope

>>528243058 (OP)
it's too late, miss tachibana is going to sleep, she will play all your games tomorrow

the virgin bitter anti boccher vs the chad goodvibes wagmi boccher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGU0lzgGGR0

>he made more progress in 3 days than 99.99% of the 'cord
tranime LOST
AI WON
simple as

>>528243058 (OP)
>hijacking the thread to advertise your game
Fag. You're not better than fagoon now. Hope your game fails and you kys.

>>528241489
bocchi sister.... haven't you noticed the patterns? we unironically are at the forefront of gamedev.
>agdg succumbs to the doom and gloom
>youtubers soon follow after
>agdg-kun's begins abandoning their games if not game dev outright
>youtubers begin following suit
>we talk about methods to improve our odds of making it
>youtubers start talking about the same subjects

>>528243241
>>528243248
>>528243350
>>528243360
>>528243482
go away

>>528243470
but he is better, his ad doesn't make me want to violently vomit

>>528243329
Nah, his tranny avatar posts are very stale at this point.

>>528243329
>>528243248

>>528243409
why would I ever play this?

>>528243569
Nah it's the same bullshit. Spams his shit 24/7 as if it's "new" progress and now is hijacking the thread. He's marketing a game thats already done. Hope it fails.

>>528243470
I'm not the dev. I just think it's fun to put the spotlight on one of the local devs in the OP.

the more 'cord tries to force bosci the more the thread fights against it, love it

I am SICK of Youtube's algorithm calling me out! It isn't finished because I'm a lazy piece of shit.

Hypothetical situation, what do (you) do?
>be (you)
>just like making game
>get smug, it's a gmi idea
>1.5 years pass, 1.5 more years to go
>spot some dev you've never seen before
>keep an eye on him
>6 months pass
>your rival, in the mere span of 6 months, made nearly the same game that yours will be by the end of development
>he releases
>2500 reviews week 1
>game goes FOTM

>>528243738
You're right from what he posted to now it seems he already has it done, but it's smart actually. It's what most of /agdg/ should've done too. Regardless it's not like he's in the inner circle and we're not the target audience for his game so I don't see what he would gain by advertising here.

>>528243729
lets be honest, you played worse """games""" from your 'cord troon "e-friends" and gave them positive hugbox troonback
that guy's poor version of runescape is better than that

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1344990/Zefyr_A_Thiefs_Melody/
>12 years in development
>53 reviews
Unironically what do you think went wrong? How do you avoid this?

>>528243841
the more thread tries to stop bocchi posting the more the bocchiposters post bocchi, indifferent to it

Day 21 on a Thread for Project C-Con – "Unexpected Breakthrough" Edition
Journal logs are being posted into /agdg/ daily.

Made okay progress tonight working on C-Con — all possible because I don’t have a shift at work tomorrow, so we should be alright pulling off a dev-marathon tomorrow too.

Anyway, today was really cool in that I’m really digging this C++ German guy tutorial, it’s unlike any other course I’ve done. He sort of just rambles to himself and doesn’t hold your hand, uses key-binds without even telling you, does sleight-of-hand stuff accidentally... so honestly, you end up learning things on your own while following along as best you can. Legit a learning curve but for someone’s teaching style, somehow.

What’s awesome is we’ve gotten to a part where we’ve instantiated and defined basic movement using C++, and it’s exactly what I’ve been looking for. Default UE5 movement feels frictionless; which makes you slide around, sluggish, realistic, and doesn’t appeal to my taste or what C-Con’s movement will be in the far future. Working in C++, though, I basically programmed basic movement from zero, which means of course instantaneous, with no sort of inertia, which is exactly what I've been looking for.

I’ll definitely be bookmarking this knowledge for later when I eventually make my first real custom system on my own: a basic third-person character controller from scratch.

Anyways see you in the next log tomorrow, goodnight Anon.

What is Project C-Con?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10J54VHQz5HygejRwN7N6d3-tCY_-EhwJLqs-EBrUx8k/edit?usp=sharing

Today’s Log:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GW4zfNBsJ9XD6XkE4p8g7Vb5pNJMDSe0dg1tuNGlKOs/edit?usp=sharing

Current Trello:
https://trello.com/invite/b/68451978bbc485dd38cb0b5b/ATTI293a4fca1b86409df4ab24965a60d1429BB11CCE/c-cons-rd

>>528244170
>we talked about it 3 or 4 threads ago
tldr Steam users who look at steam for recs are not the audience for windwaker. a big streamer could save it by bringing windwaker likers to steam. obviously a switch release would do ok.

>>528244175
So true sis it's the only reason bosci won and I don't get why he claims it's the 'cord because you they hate bocchi there and you would just get banned from the Discord for it lmao

>>528243795
Sure you aren't fagoon 2.0.

>>528243968
Yeah he's not going to gain anything, in fact it's more of a loss of interest and vitriol.

>>528244080
that's a lie, not honesty, you silly baby

>>528244170
10 years too late, some of us would really benefit had we had a huge headstart and were releasing our current games back in 2015.

Marmie, are you still here? did you towel toss?
Unconventional Warfare dev's, you still going strong? new game?
Cteshiphon dev i saw a game like your's can't remember the name but i think it was in next fest, the polish it had would greatly benefit yours. game done soon?
Bokube, pls tell me you release your game this year.
Heroes Gain dev are you here anymore?
;__________;

>>528244392
shut up schizo

>>528237179
tfw i finally had what i didn't know i wanted and woke up. i want back into that dream :(

>>528239549
not surprising, game seemed rather big in scope just by being an rts. if you're here branno what are you planning on making next?

'member when bosci fag was defending the gaben 30% fee? it aint a problem for him since he's a nodev and a memeber of ltbq

>>528243958
Enjoy the finished popular good game

>>528244170
Should have read the room and made a rougelite

replying to someone at the same time you post progress or (worse) blog about thread drama is embarassing behavior

>>528245157
>read the 2025 room in 2012

this is what factorio looked like when it was first started

>>528244708
>Cteshiphon dev i saw a game like your's can't remember the name but i think it was in next fest, the polish it had would greatly benefit yours. game done soon?
I don't really look at Next Fest the way I do Demo Day, you're gonna have to find it. I don't expect Ctesiphon to sell like hotcakes, I just want it OUT so I can move on to something else with a full release under my belt.

If you want my cope, the game has already gotten me a job twice. So if you credit that, it is already earning me six figures AUD a year.

>>528245108
wtfwtf based??

Somehow all 3D engine devs are Australian…? My game also earned me a six figures job offer, but I refused it and also I’ve sank 2+ years of joblessness into it hmmm

>>528245615
holy based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvQsnU5sACY

when palworld started they pushed the "ITS LE EPIC SATIRE JUST LIKE UNDERSHART WE ARE MAKING FUN OF LE RPG LOGIC HAHAH I AM VERY SMART REDDITOR" and now its literally "umm ackshually we are le heccin cute pokemon, forget about the satire or pokemon shooting guns!!"
really makes you think about indie success making you a pozzed faggot

is your 6 fig job harder or easier than making your game?

>>528246194
what?

>>528246042
Chicken guy right? My man!
It's like we're already so far from everything that we're used to doing it all ourselves.

>>528246224
Way harder because I have to read other people's code all the time. And due to churn at corporate clients, we often can't ask the person who wrote it because they usually don't work there anymore.

>>528246042
Didn't reply to the other part: did this offer include an IP clause meaning they would have owned your game? Because I wouldn't have taken it either. I make a point of asking in the interview and try not to apply for actual "gaming" jobs.

>>528246194
/v/ is that way--> >>>/v/

>fire missiles
>like 30% of the time they just disappear near the target but don't explode nor deal damage

>>528246721
I was refering to chickunguy but it’s only covendev talking, my country is two letters short of Australia just as my engine is a dimension short… The job was not gaming-related at all, I just didn’t like the atmosphere.

>>528246229
whats the point of being indie if you're just gonna make mass produced slop as soon as you find success? the "ironic" indie devs always become "unironic" as soon as they become millionaires, ironic
>>528246806
ask the offtopic tranime troons to go back to /jp/, reddit and /a/ first, i'm talking about gamedev instead of porn addiction or whatever those freaks spam here daily, faggot jew

>>528245615
huh somehow still looks better than mine...

>>528245756
>If you want my cope, the game has already gotten me a job twice. So if you credit that, it is already earning me six figures AUD a year.
nani? how!
>austrailian
makes sense for some reason lol.

>>528246042
strange, feels like north americans take the title for most whodevs while austraila takes the title for most enginedevs

>>528246042
>but I refused it and also I’ve sank 2+ years of joblessness into it hmmm
uhhhhh what? the only engine dev i can think of are
>chicken guy
>batty vamps (i think hes an engine dev)
>ygg engine dev
so who are you?

so bored waiting for my agent to finish vibe coding
gamedev is a boring hobby

rewriting the core logic, as a treat

every indie dev is making a maidslop game, so why aren't you?

>>528247091
>I just didn’t like the atmosphere.
nta but understandable, huh, austria, whats the living situation like there that you can be unemployed and gamedev?
>inb4 hes a neetdev still living at home like me

it's simple: i am not listening to the "advice" (aka make more goon centric garbage because i have porn addiction) of a NGMI tranime 'cord loser
it's my chinese new year resolution

>>528247509
I like men. Maybe I make cute furry boi maid game/

>>528247509
I like maids but I don't like gooner slop.

gonna replay the frydarian tale for inspi'

>>528247665
I didn't say goonslop, I said maidslop. Maids will be in every game. They will be as common as dodge rolls, parrying and off center cameras. Game devs are finally taking the maidpill. Everything will be maids.

>>528247330
>it’s only covendev talking
>>528247521
Sometimes work, sometimes live off the savings. Idk how it works out. Not the cheapest country, but they kept me afloat a bit by paying social security kinda while I was "setting up my own business"

>>528247509
>>528248040
cute maids are for pregnancy

>>528248040
If your character design has tits bigger than her head, vacuum sealed apron, skirt slit and visible garter straps then it's goonslop my fren.

>>528247091
>The job was not gaming-related at all, I just didn’t like the atmosphere.
That's a tough call. Back when I was job searching I had recruiters come after me for TikTok and Facebook which I completely ghosted as soon as I got something else. Vibe is a big reason I like my day job, I wouldn't have stayed so long if my colleagues and bosses weren't total bros so that reinforces your instinct

>>528247230
>nani? how!
I got lucky honestly. A recruiter spotted me on linkedin looking for my exact skillset. I'm not going to pretend that always works but it did for me. I do think having C and C++ on your CV definitely helps though.

>no one:
>tranime control freak: how dare you not make a game about my fetish!!!!!!
why are these nodevs even here? do you want the shit troon devs who would agree to do that to make a shitty game like marmoshart with your favorite transcoded fetish? why dont you just play whichever chinese gacha released this week, i'm sure it has designs you'll enjoy, brainless faggot

>>528247509
I'm making cunnyslop

Getting there

>>528248445
What's the top game? also kys

>>528248646
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1947910/OPUS_Prism_Peak/

>>528248712
>shutterspeed camera controls
sign me up

>>528248445
I will never play pedo garbage except maybe the top one because it looks like it has soul

>>528248561
Oh snap

>>528249010
also it doesn't have the pedo energy like the bottom one

Made the first level. It gently introduces ladders, buttons, and swimming.

Execution anim in action, progress has been good lately :D feels good man

>>528249114
>ladders, buttons, and swimming.
Nortubel 3d??

>>528249114
neat

i woke up with no desire to work on my game, or anything

YOOOOOOOOOOOOO my agent cooked me up some incredible new feature better than what i asked
AI won

Do we have any aggies that bought the GodotQuest course for 3D, 2D or both?
I've been wanting to go trough them for some time but I just lost my job and can't justify putting down the money anymore.

>>528249868
i sincerely hope this is bait

>>528247509
>>528248040
may i see some?
(i am planning to make a maid slop game unironically)

>>528249868
I've never liked their tutorials and I wouldn't spend a cent on any of their courses.

>>528249868
I hope this is bait as well but in case its not youtube tutorials and AI will teach you everything you need to know

>>528250029
the tranny nodev is just spamming as it does every single day
every post is an excuse to post his troon slop, the creature is at war with /agdg/ (in its mind, in reality it is just wasting its pathetic "life")

I don't know what I want my game to be.

making big progress

just got an idea: could use agents to make my agdg posts too
intteresting...

monke game
https://files.catbox.moe/y4gjig.zip

just got a virus...

>>528250757
>malware

>it fuarking works FIRST TRY
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AI DOUBTERS IN THE MUD

well would you rather i shill my itch io page instead?? fuck

>>528250079
>>528250151
Not bait but I realize that it is a bit retarded to pay for such in the current year.
AI is great for both retard devs and pros alike. I use it every day!
When it comes to youtubers I don't think I've ever found a channel that consistently makes good content. I feel like most of them don't actually know what they're doing. Which leads to poor implementations and the inability to go in-depth on concepts.

>godot is close to 4.5
>still feels like a 4.1
the last 4 releases are nothing but bugfixes for shit they broke when switching to 4.x, drawcalls on tilemaps are just getting fixed in 4.5, this is mad

I almost posted progress, phew that was close.

>>528251797
You can find all the information you need online and, assuming you know basic algebra and high-school math in general, you'll be fine.
Paid courses are only good if they provide you with some form of certification.

>>528250757
Not a virus. Also please don't embed scripts into scenes. You have one embedded into "monke run.tscn". It's just not a good thing to do.
>>528252130
>the last 4 releases are nothing but bugfixes
Nah they added Jolt as a module in the engine which is the best thing ever. And they have been improving the shader compiling situation. GDScript traits will most likely be in 4.6 as well which will be epic

>>528249114
cool what is this?

>>528252762
It's the zip file I replied to kek

>>528249382
how hard is it making scripted attacks?

>>528252875
hmm, not hard I would say, just animate 2 characters together, when press button: sync position and play both character anims at the same time.

>>528242535
if you told me this was an agdg game, i would've believed you.

>>528248040
Maid uniform...

can someone design my levels for me

ok give me the game files then

>>528247509
I am!

>>528249868
2D is pretty good, has a solid of content and is well structured.
3D is lacking in content at the moment and not worth it if you're tight on money.
It's nothing you can't learn for free, you're paying for a structured course with exercises and the "workbooks" with a demo scene that you build on over the course of a module.
A lot of youtube tutorials are dogshit timesink grifts that won't leave you with any skills. Most of the learning you need to do is stuff you'll need to figure out solo by trying, but GDquest at least pushes you in that direction.

>>528253274
Use procedural generation.

>>528253494
Forgot to add, it being text based is the biggest draw compared to youtube, it's so much quicker to read each lesson than sit through a 20m-2hour video, then having to seek back through it or pause it every 20 seconds to get the info you need etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-YHsSvO_lU

mormonboy cracked the code

>>528253831
been laughing so hard i forgot my pic

Why did no one tell me it would be this hard?

>>528252380
>embed scripts into scenes
how do you even do this?

>>528253949
LOL

>>528253949
>we're democratizing gamedev by releasing out engine for free

>>528253274
I will for a... 30% cut
y-you will make money off it right

>>528253946
whats with the backwards cap?

I really really want a large monster to hold me.

>>528254292
I really really want me to hold a large monster.

>>528254175
>y-you will make money off it right
yes, because so far my first game has made 2k dollars

>>528254430
Yes and then I want to kiss their nose then stick my whole body in their mouth but I don't want to be eaten.

>>528253494
>>528253827
Yeah anon. I agree with all of these takes.
Video tutorials are not great.
But like other anons said I might just use AI even more for learning. It's been getting a lot better for Godot and I might be able to make a ruleset that makes more educational prompts.

>>528254552
not against this in principle, but the error rate on ai dev questions is too high, it can waste a beginner's time way more since they don't know what's what
just read teh docs

>>528254456
what kind of game do you need levels designed for

>>528254968
a 3D platformer with linear levels

>>528255175
>linear levels in 2025
ngmi

>Makes game with a tropical island setting
>No mechanics involving water
Time to change that

>>528255245
i dont want to make a mario 64-like

>>528249868
>buying courses

>>528255175
I have to go to sleep but if I see you post another time I might offer to help again

>>528243058 (OP)
I thought C and raylib would never allow me to finish a game wtf. Even the artwork looks good. This doesn't fit the use an engine narrative at all.

>>528249868
thomas bros, we eating good these days

Never forget:
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528254274
>why society hates single men
The guy in the thumbnail is the reason. Imagine calling yourself a man, while bitching about society like a women.

How hostages should be handled.

>>528255862
why am I hard?

>>528253831
>>528253946
What? That nobody wants to play boring ass "cozy" games?

The basic overworld systems now work seamlessly without errors (I disabled fade in/out transitions for brevity)
Time to actually design a good battle system! Pls give me ideas

>>528255796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT23mBK2F4g
we are here

>>528256082
>"Do you want some donuts?"
yes
>gives one donut
Fuck you, faggot! Where are the rest!?

>>528256082
i always start with the battle system first since that's the core gameplay

>>528256082
what prompt for the house?

>>528256152
>3D survivorslop
>no clue about vertex animations
>no clue about DOTS
>unironically using skeletal meshes for enemy waves
this nigga never learns.

>>528256552
it's a sponsored stream for a unity coding assistant

>>528256214
S-sorry anon, I took the rest for myself
>>528256427
I started with a simple dragon quest styled battle the last time but I figured I will need to make something better
>>528256482
It's from a free asset pack anon, here
https://pixel-boy.itch.io/ninja-adventure-asset-pack

https://x.com/Spade_seiyu_dol/status/1936332437505949735

the mentally ill society 'cord wants you to make games for btw

>>528255796
That guy is obviously gay and was brought up in a religious home. Your viberadar is autistic levels of bad.

>>528256914
us to yen conversion isnt that good

>>528255796
a white male doesnt get his way will find someone else to blame

>>528257536
t. brownoid

wake up
dev
sleep
repeat

>>528255269
hell yeah fishing!

out of the wine
out of the chal-eece of a-gon-y

>>528257791
i'm working on a gambling roguelike deckbuilder, would a nigga do that?

i think i'm going insane

>>528260398
nothing wrong with being schizophrenic, i'm one myself

>>528260398
I went insane yesterday. Then I ate a banana and felt better. I still want to be held by monsters tho.

>>528243409
this is actually impressive

Wondering if I should really add the colony feature to Galduen.

I wish this world wasn't so shit.
I wish there was no struggle.
I wish I had the pride to strike a fool.

>>528245615
mogs my game

>>528262029
Scope creep?

>>528262448
Maybe, I think the gameplay as of now if quite fine, and I wonder if adding the colony is not too much.

>>528262672
Do you fear it will take away from the space travel if the player has to worry about colonies?

their fantasies will never be quenched

>>528263082
perfect screenshot
>sir cumalot
>broken english from developer
Very period.

>>528263082
Gamers are unbelievably spoiled. A lot of them expect cheap games to be infinitely replayable and for the developers to update them forever for free.

Someone post the screenshot of the guy who left a negative review because "the game was too positively reviewed" and he wanted to "mix it up".

>>528263603
based

What do you have in your inspiration folder?

>>528263082
>dev reply
yikes that's a refund request sweetie

do curators get paid?

>>528262925
Yes, I also think it may be overwhelming.

>>528248445
>Only one character here is clearly stylized
Learn the distinction between "loli" and an actual child.

>>528263769
i only have joe

>>528263769
a lot of furry bimbos

>>528263769
Cute girls.

>>528263603
i dont remember his name but i remember he also negatively reviewed cropolution

>>528256152
>b*teme is doing sponsored asset flip streams now
now this is just getting sad

>>528263769
Funny girls.

>>528262029
Just make it a furry breeding simulator and it will sell 1000x more than what you're expecting.

>>528263887
Space game players might enjoy that sort of thing

>>528248445
childless gamers are a rising market

>>528263082
Why the fuck would you unironically reply to some random named Sir Cum'Alot?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3614570/_Dragons_and_elves/
sometimes i like to look at the new games coming out with the rpg tag. i've seen a few that use ai generated trailers now which are all chinese mind you. makes you think how close we are to being able to make our own jrpgs without needing massive budgets.

>>528263769
maybe one day I will learn how to model something like this and make a game with it

>>528263859
yep. same as jannies.

>>528265801
The problem is: If i go for this gameplay I don't think I could stop myself from going over the scope.

>>528266308
Is it one of those things when you want to do X, but in order to do it you must first implement Y, which requires Z, and so on so it never ends?

>>528248445
so this is what my game needs... a companion...

Managed to lower the resolution of the grass to fit more with the general style of the other textures. What do you guys think?

>>528265226
https://steamcommunity.com/id/Giufin/recommended/?p=1

I anticipate 32 reviews on release. No more, no less. 21 of those will be negative.

>>528266494
this was a legit bad review, why did he feel the need to add that first part

>>528266494
Loop Hero is a literal skinnerbox

>>528263769
i unironically use pinterest as a mood board

>>528266638
>1.8K hours in rainbow six
mamma mia

aaaa Mr. jP please submit your highscores

>>528266638
>SLOP GOOD
>REAL GAMES BAD
insane how this site is populated almost exclusively by freaks like this

>>528266638
least retarded loli enjoyer

>>528255862
nooooooo let her go you jerk!!

>>528266484
Yes, I think if I ever do a Galduen 2 it will be on colonial play

Just played a really good game of aoe2. Spanish vs Byzantines. I got pushed in hard but I rallied. Ended up being kind of an eco win because he never went beyond 75 vils. 1100 elo.

Looks like we won't be needing Branno's RTS anyways.

>>528266580
*pets your head*
Good boy.

It's making fan art porn games, an easier method to become well know?

>>528267337
On the brightside,getting a positive review from him means that your game exceeds expectations

>>528268064
It's a method to become even more decided to look more like.

>>528268210
has anyone ever?

>>528266580
the texel density difference is still a bit crazy given the grass is tiny and the tree is way bigger but more pixelated
if you were to replace all materials with a checkerboard, consistent texel density would look like checkerboards of consistent size throughout
or call it "soul" and "homebrew" so you don't have to bother

>>528266580
i really like it. how did you get the initial texture for the grass?

I never know where to put the title in the cover or what font to use

>>528268064
do you know a fan art porn game person?

>>528267578
make a mac version pls

>>528267926
Thanks!

>>528268508
I don't know what you mean, i am considering changing the tree texture or tree in general. Not sure right now.

>>528268535
https://gofile.io/d/5wVvas Here you go. I got it from a godot plugin called "SimpleGrassTextured" which allows you to draw, fill or erase "grass" or basically any mesh you want.

I don't get treated equally compared to others. Either someone really powerful hates me, or believes in me. Either way is good, to know I live in the heads of powerful people rent free. :)

>>528243058 (OP)
tryna make mo'er tuggs. I've got something like 13-14 skins done and now I have to figure out how to get all these body proportions to play nice w/ the same animation sets

TO honor Branno project.
>>528269432
I refuse to sign the Apple cartel chart.

>>528269579
>I don't get treated equally compared to others.
Same. I am a god on this earth.

>>528269530
thanks anon, i can't use it though since im a poonity fag

>>528269530
Forgot to post a picture of the scene. My bad. Currently working on an inventory

>>528269791
Its ova...You at least have the textures to use now if you ever find a good grass plugin or make your own.

Game with detailed cuddling mechanics.

>>528269974
Stealing this.

Hear me out:
Cozy bread bakery game that goes into autistic bread detail about kneading, the yeast, fermentation etc.
Bam. An original idea worth billions. This is how easy it is for me, Peter.

>>528270178
Hmm....bread is a little boring...maybe it could be Chocolate instead?

>>528269867
what's the trick to making non repetitive terrain like that? is it as simple as adding shrubbery?

>>528270442
There's a reason why Eric isn't a billionaire, because he thinks small. You see that and think, "What about chocolate."
I think: "What about chocolate bread?"
Bam.
- Peter

.

>>528270442
How about aquariums?
https://youtu.be/UDq2h4oVBMU?t=1016

Decided to have planet just for failed /agdg/ project, post them and be added to the pile!

fygoonCHAD won bigly

How would I trigger a state change for the player on interacting with specific objects?

I'm trying to duck code the method in the object as a generic "interact" function, would it be easier instead to check for specific interaction objects to trigger a state change?

I need the player to be able to switch from sitting at a pc with a 2d ui and their typical movement.

This is in Godot

>>528270835
Based

>>528270872
>How would I trigger a state change for the player on interacting with specific objects?
When the player push the interact key.

if is_in_contact and get_contact_obj().interactible:
player_state = get_contact_obj().state_on_interact

>>528270872
easier to put the interact function in the players script

>>528263082
Can't even be bothered with starting let alone finishing a 4 hour game nowadays

>>528271241
that's true for games that require my full attention

>go to playtest my game
>end up playing for 2 hours

>>528271420
This is why I have dedicated playtesters.

>>528271420
based on the average agdg release this is not a good thing, statistically speaking

I used to take pride in being above average at video games. I used to have fun with them, relax and talk trash with the boys. Now none of us play multiplayer games at all. Not even raids in D2 anymore. I'm more likely to play powerwash simulator while listening to a podcast when I have time.

>>528271905
multiplayer games are complete dogshit nowadays

picking up pixel art again

>>528272173
looks great

>>528272173
looks transcoded

>>528270538
Well what I did was make a single plane scaled by 5, put 10 of them under a single node to make 1 large grass chunk but as you can see it still repeats, the grass mesh on top of it though helps to hide the repetitiveness .

urgh.... do i really have to work on my game.... its so boring and unfulfilling....

Chat is this true?

>>528272689
Only game there that's a party game is jackbox*, if a game can't be played LAN it isn't a party game.
*that i know of

there's got to be a way to create a 2d look with 3d models and i'm going to figure out how

>>528272689
No the replier is wrong. "party game" doesn't just mean anything you play with friends. Mario Kart and Smash Bros is not a party game.

>>528272173
and wheres the tutorial about drawing the girl?

https://gofile.io/d/k2MZbR Made a small video showcasing the scene i've made so far. Picture is an old version so you can compare the difference.

Mario Party is a party game.

>>528273243
is that so Sherlock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3ESO3Lm9Tw

unreal engine is such an incredible engine

>powerwash simulator while listening to a podcast
Grim.

Post your game without actually posting it.

>>528273243
Mario Party is to a party what a car crash is to a car.

I just lost to a massive crossbow + onager mass. My only hope was to cripple his economy, but I didn't get the timing.

Branno, we need you.

we're reverse crabbing branno now?

my level isn't fun

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>>528270637
I had a goldfish that just refused to die, it lived 14 years. all I did was feed it and change the water when it looked a bit green. it also ate it's brother.

If you dudes want to feel a quick hit of confidence check out the popular upcoming list for early access games.

i'm completely out of ideas. like, 100% out of ideas, not just 99.99%.

>>528273890
branno pulled 50k+ on a relatively short term game while holding a full time job. he deserves some respect for that

>someone downloaded my game from itch 8 times despite having only one view
huh...?

>>528274442
i pulled 2k on a 1 year project as a NEET, so yeah

>>528274469
Canceled downloads use to be counted as 3 downloads for some reasons, don’t know if that bug still exists, but yeah the accounting is not extremely precise

>>528274469
Very likely someone with OCD downloading the same game several times, I know because I am also one

>>528255269
I saw your trailer on Steam, pretty comfy, just enough information and sarcasm to be interesting, your portraits could use some work though

lumen is the biggest meme in gamedev history. it's noisy, it smears with movement, it's visually completely unacceptable and unappealing. yet it's shilled so hard by epic.
that's epics strategy, push something shitty that claims to do revolutionary stuff, delete all negative comments everywhere or gaslight people into believing its fine and then devs feel obligated to use this eye cancer.
not for me.
seriously man my eyes can't even handle 3d games anymore. either it's 2D for me or 2005 mmorpg tier graphics, or oblivion/counter-strike source tier. MSAA and forward rendering was when gaming didnt hurt my eyes.

>>528274712
preach

Grafixx has peakkked.

>>528274341
I felt like i saw the same 5 games over and over

I'm not an "indie dev". I'm a game developer. My games will be priced according to industray standard. That's why I will make more money than you. My $60 price tag justifies itself and legitimises me in the eyes of the players.

>>528275213
the reason you charge 60 dollars for a game is because you have to divide it by 100 employees.
you can become a millionaire just selling 200k lifetime units for 10 dollars.

>>528247023
Are you hinting at my game

>>528275213
$60 for 2 hours of content? Wowwie, how generous.

>>528275351
Now imagine how rich I'll be selling 200k units at $60 each

My MMO sub will be priced at $60 a month.

>>528269747
you don't need to get the paid dev license

>>528275573
worked for portal

I was stressed out for one day and it set me back 2 weeks.

it's really over. i tried downloading some demos and i could barely get through them. why would i care about the story when i could read a book or watch a documentary?
why would i want to make fake friends in an rpg when i could watch content creators?
i need to be doing two things at once while i consoom like a productive podcast playing in the background. i can see why games like nubby's are the future now because it allows one to be consoom two things at once.

can you make art with nothing but mouse and keyboard? i own a tablet, but the thing is i want to lay in bed and only use mouse and keyboard.

>>528275965
thats what pixel art and 3d are for

https://github.com/godotengine/godot-proposals/issues/1407

kill all tranime maintainers

>>528275965
i drew a shitty little 8x8 no-leg dwarf with my keyboard ten minutes ago, does that count?

>>528275965
Isn’t a tablet in bed perfectly comfy?

great art takes time

>>528262029
Only if you can drop the colony

>>528276490
maybe if it's wireless and ultralight. but i only had money for a cheap one.

>>528272689
I just fucking hate internet words like Xslop, Xlike etc.

after years of trying and failing i lost all my confidence to decide on any new idea to work on. all i see is problems problems problems.
also i really don't know what is fun. also even if i have barely good ideas, there's better games to play than mine.
i just have nothing to add to the existing market.

>>528275965
all done with a trackball mouse in 2005

3 hours of extreme productivity and now my brain is fried

>>528276969
and it took 4x time than using a tablet

if you ran out of ideas just make a topdown shooter

Every day I put out a couple peanuts for a crow that comes around.
And every day he gives me tips about how to make my game better.

Not a single one of my ideas are a shooter, that is how you know I will make it.

i feel like enginedev is what happens when you enjoy creativity, but all you can do is programming. and instead of learning to make art, you keep and keep learning programming. and you end up so fucking hardstuck. trying to do more and more pointless programming exercises.
at some point you have to admit that you know way more than enough programming and all you can do now is learning art.

>>528272845
do you mean like this, where it's a 3D game with heavy use of 2D assets?
https://youtu.be/pfbToHeOuDA
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1684930/CULTIC/

or do you mean this, where it's a 2D game based on 3D assets that were recorded, pixelated and converted into 2D sprites?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kALXAWSDYEo
https://store.steampowered.com/app/588650/Dead_Cells/

I want to make games that are unnecessarily complicated and convoluted and would never become popular enough to bring in a profit that could justify their mechanics.

>>528263082
just ignore these people lol

>>528277551
I want ... something
but I don't know what it is.
Either way, I have become deranged this week.

>guy stops updating tutorial series for 7 months
>makes a video about how hes switched gender
*sigh*, guess the engine

>>528275965
I make... something with a mouse and keyboard. I wouldn't REALLY call it art, however.

>>528277779
godot

>>528277777

>>528277779
another trannitysister

desu i dont want a game, i just want a simulation where i can do whatever i want. thats why i play hundreds of hours of zomboid, because its the closest i can get to that.

>>528277779
switched from unity to godot

>>528277463
the latter but less pixelated. snappy animations, baked lighting are some of the advantages i could think of. a good example would be guilty gear strive but with less stylized models.

>>528277779
I guess Juan fixed it

I'm pumping out some slop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zzde8av1Jc

this guy used to post here under "benisdev" or something, he left agdg and now is a corny vtuber with a redditor fanbase
what can we learn from this?

>>528277179
Good thing making art isn't a race.

jonas tyroller will troon out too, just the way he speaks is almost female already.

>>528278129
gotta give the market what they want

yeah yeah alright which one of you guys fired up the steam wishlist bot net to troll me? really funny pal

>>528277179
and it stayed in my head for 20 years

mogs mine

sandbox dev be like
flat 2d game -> lacks up axis
isometric 2d game -> kinda fine? but janky movement and janky to make
3d game -> realtime lighting and need for realtime global illumination fucks up your project

>>528278129
teams making idlers. for some reason I thought these were all solo projects

>>528278129
post a single sloptuber that isn't doing well. you literally don't even have to make a game, you just talk about making a game and that's it

>>528278129
I don't know... That I should become a vtuber?

>>528278429
You have more wishlists than I have sales

>>528278275
he has no hair to troon out though

my life feels like eternal cope to avoid the fact that i'm destined to be a store clerk.

>>528278770
Nothing quite like working a dogshit retail job to force you to work on the project as a way out

I wish I had someone to talk me out of project hopping and tell me they want to see my game finished

>>528278770
Should have tried harder in school

>>528278908
Just do project walljumping.

>>528278767
he just has a vegeta hairline, he has 500g of hair behind his 5head

>>528278908
What's your game

>>528278692
well that is because your game is literal retard tier dog shit and you never should have been stupid enough to post it to steam

>>528278674
xhe is beautiful!!!!!!!!!!

>>528277551
Doing this.

>>528279000
And? Do you think I don't already know that? I delisted it for a reason.

i love indie games and gushing about indies like expedition 33 and tainted grail

>>528278908
i think its a double edged sword.
pro: no sunk cost fallacy and you'll work 6 months on a new project instead of trying 6 months to make the old one work.
con: you might not know that the project you work on is shit right now, but might become really cool when you keep working on it.

nevertheless, i think the real problem is identity issues. if you know for certain who you are and what you want, then you cannot project hop.
if you listen to rap music everyday for 10 years, then you just know rap is the right genre for you. you don't need to genre-hop. same for gamedev.

identity trumps everything in terms of consistency, that's why people shill for nationalism and traditions.
i think internet destroys identity, because there's so much random content that makes your brain skip between contexts. everytime it starts to build an identity it immediately quits again.

or maybe our identity is a taboo. since we are here on 4chan we are open to rekt videos, porn, racism, bullying etc. - maybe the game we should make wouldn't even be allowed on steam. maybe we are psychos and we don't want to show our true colors in our game.

>>528278770
ummm make a store clerk game?

>>528279278
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH YOU CANT CALL NEPOBABYSLOP "INDIe

indie =/= amateur

Remember, (You) have no budget to punctuate plot points with songs like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yZv4giBvn8 so you should just focus on gameplay, the one thing you can be good for.

my game is pretty cool

>>528263769
if i posted my inspiration folder someone might steal my million dollar idea

I still need to slap together some better SFX and I can call this last gun done!

>>528274656
Oh neat, glad you found it. I finally feel like I'm actually on the home stretch now.
> your portraits could use some work though
I'm devastated, what's wrong with them? I thought they looked good! I'm probably not going to fix them, but I'd like to know for future reference

>wishlist balance, South Asia: 6
>wishlist balance, North America: 620

>>528279320
>maybe we are psychos and we don't want to show our true colors in our game.
This is why I sometimes wonder if my game selling <20 copies was actually a blessing. I put too much of myself into it. It's better that no one see my ugliness.

I've realized I dont actually like making games, just game engines

>>528279549
>drink soda
>gun refills
PEE GUN PEE GUN PEE GUN

>>528277779
whats xers name?

>>528243058 (OP)
>be burned out as fuck because im not sure how to continue working on my game and working
>go to 4chan /gd/ - catalog - "amateur game de..."
>see this
>self esteem boost
bros...thanks so much...

>>528279093
I'm just being a cunt for fun, if you can identify why it failed then it can still be very useful to you as a learning experience.

>>528278275
He would never, he represents white aryan perfection, he will be one of the first people to break into agartha while developing games for the white agarthian people
>captha: XJHRT

>>528279485
he was the weak link. don't hire him

>>528243058 (OP)
>>528279858
I have to agree that there is intense fygoon energy behind these posts

>>528279872
It failed because I lack the skills to make a good game. The lesson learned is that some of us are doomed to failure to mediocrity, and the world desperately needs to do a better job of beating this lesson into the minds of the masses. Only a privileged few are born to succeed, and the rest of us need to learn to accept that and stop wasting our time trying to do the impossible.

heh, videogames

>>528279992
Well, you know batman and joker ended up being closer to each other than they originally thought.

>>528279858
>forgot the wattle
son... I am disappoint.

>>528259557
Idk Dreamsettler and what they did, but I do find it odd people like Jon Blow spend so much on elite talent to make children's games. Like ok, one smart guy, fine. A whole team of elite programmers? To make puzzles? Why?

>>528279549
main character and red dress booby lady looked like someone's first attempt at digital drawing, strong deviantart vibes from 2005. Normal grunts looked much better though. I think that flat-shaded colors and thin outlines are the main reason for my aversion

>>528280185
to get closer to god

>>528259557
This guy appears and sounds aggressively jewish

>>528280320
"No you don't get it, there's deep meaning behind pushing the box to the correct spot, this genius is worth tens of millions spent!" No, not really. Zelda is better anyway.

I treid to work harder on my game this month - it ended up eating the big amount of my "job hours".
I don't know how to survive next Month becuase im being paid per hour and i didnt work that much this month.

what shitty way to live...i want to die. i want to make my games but i can't because i wont be able to buy food/pay bills if i will...

How other people manage to make a game AND have a job - pay for food/internet/etc.

remind that a japanese salary man made this game by himself in his spare time for 15 years

>>528280185
>why spend so much on elite talent to make children's games
You are retarded anon.

Well anon, are you gonna down the glass and use Twitter?

>>528279992
It's literally fagoon 2.0

Anyone recommend some good texture / mesh tools / software? I have Tree it, and material maker but would like a wider range of tools.

>>528280707
Damn, that post must be doing good because of his game, right? Better game = more views after all.

>>528280816
sovl

>>528280780
Funny enough I was gonna use speedtree or treeit and I ended up just making the trees in blender and animating them there.

WTF happened to Ruza? The dev did a 180 with the final update. He removed choices, comedy elements, romance and a bunch of dialogue and scenes.

>>528280816
Make this same thing but a deer stuck in a fence.

>>528280534
>Overwhelmingly Positive (25,980)
what a hidden gem

>>528279478
is she saying "the skibidi"?

i think what you should do if you are a nodev and cant find motivation is just to play hundreds of hours of vidya until you reach the same point again that started you getting into gamedev: inspiration

>>528277779
Low level framework custom engine implementation 'Let's Code Minecraft from Scratch'

>have to send out emails to press
>social anxiety is stopping me
Fuck. Call me what you want, I already know.. I'm useless.

>>528281215
>have to
You never "have to."

>>528280965
Another solodev cracking under the pressure. If you don't got the cahones, stay outta the kitchen, man.

>>528280664
I know, but you can't articulate why. Because you're a retarded faggot. So fuck off you cowardly little bitch.

>>528280287
I don't see it, the only thing I did different with the grunts was the camo pattern.

>>528281258
based
I know what you mean.

>>528280797
How much of this came from constantly Tweeting? We may never know

>>528280929
Tree it is weird, i mean I don't really get the point because the licence says that even custom trees you make arent yours. Is speedtree better?

>>528280965
As a gamedev with a decent following, you probably shouldn't be addressing your players directly, because at that point the only thing that matters are your actions, and not what you say. You should also obviously never be snarky like this guy..

>>528281031
my game has enough sexy animals, it needs more men now

>>528281215
you get to. Just do it and grow from the experience. feel the pain.

my advice: just be a nepobaby bro

>>528281405
I found speedtree to be better than treeit albeit they both look exactly the same. Together though I found both to be a high learning curve I was not in the mood to sit through tutorials for. I feel the trees I created in blender are literally the same quality and I can do it much faster and easier after not second guessing myself.

I will only respond to fan art. by printing it and putting it on my wall. silent dev.

>>528281530
understandable

>>528281581
Literally means nothing for gamedev unless your parent was some savant programmer from the 80s/90s who will teach you good habits.

What I think you mean is don't be poor, which isn't a nepotism thing.

>>528281345
>>528281483
I enjoyed his game, got excited when I saw that the final update was released early, then saw all of this. Feels bad, man.

>>528281483
>never made a memeable video in my youth
I'll never have my cum chalice moment......

>>528281629
Did you follow any blender tutorials? I need to make some better trees than the ones I have already

>>528269867
here are the trees I have right now.

>>528280707
twitter gave me a game development job but i make small games for ai

>>528282291
oof

Michaelangelo painted all of his own paintings, remember that.

>>528282345
you can have a team of 120 people working on your game and still be solo, just like you can have multiple publishers and still be indie, okay?

>>528280816
is this dingodev ?

Michaelangelo was probably a faggot, remember that.

80% of the gamedev process as a solodev should be searching the web for free assets and building a massive cc0 collection on your local drive.

>>528282345
> not making credits a secret easter egg
ngmi

>>528282402
the sistine chapel took him like 4 years bro is the boku of painting ffs lol

>>528282345
>>528282456
The more I dig into the development history of supposed "solo games" the more convinced I become that there is not a single successful game ever developed solo. Every single successful "solo game" has been one main developer getting all credit and every other contributor forgotten.

If you want to make a genuinely good game, you can't be solo.

Yesterday I made 11% of my advertising spend back in sales.
If I can just 10x it I will be in profit land.

>>528282679
truth

>>528282731
I have spent 600 dollars in ads so far. I'm going bankrupt.

>>528281843
It seems like he never had a strong vision for the game anyway based on what he's saying, you could learn a thing or two from this.

>>528282378
its good though its remote and lets me improve certain skills

>>528282679
> Jonathan Blow created Braid
> Sean Barrett has to hop in to actually make the entire thing shippable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9sdvwTBBOg

>>528282679
I will be the first one.

>>528282470
how could you tell?

>>528281843
Ya I liked Ruza, hope he keeps it together. He had an interesting world going on.

>>528281989
Kind of but not really, I already had used sapling gen before I just looked into to making sure I understood getting a wind animation which is a setting in sapling gen I ignored the last time I had used it prior.

Progress: More content, more bullet patterns, more enemies. Trying to get things to work for DD.

>taking all the credit is bad

name one skyrim developer other than todd howard

>>528282897
> same game

>>528283020
damn the green flyer bugs are nice

>>528282679
Stardew Valley stands in your path

>>528282869
>Help me stepdingo I'm stuck

I have a hidden gem, just waiting to be discovered. Any second now, after all, algorithms can't possibly be wrong.

>>528280965
Game is free? He removed everything because maybe it was his original vision and other stuff was added as a test?

>>528283117
Had multiple contributors. The main dev's publisher gave him contractors for art and play testing. Having dedicated play testers in particular was critical to fine-tuning the game to be addictive.

>>528283254
So if someone plays the game it no longer counts as self made? Well ok then. I guess you're right, Eric Barone didn't first create the universe so I guess he had some help. You win.

>>528283163
>algorithms can't possibly be wrong.
The algorithms are right. Your game is just garbage and is being rightfully hidden.

I might get the mechanic done in the next day or two. There is only one real thing left that would take actual time to code out.

Toby Fox has the highest median revenue on Steam

>>528283374
Having multiple people paid to constantly test your game and give feedback and ideas is not a resource available to anyone in this thread.
If you want to worship and imitate Barone, go ahead, but you should imitate what actually happened. Imitating the fake "solo dev" mythology version of events in your head is self-destructive and only going to make your game worse.

Does your game have waifus, anon?

>>528279992
it feels like it's another fagoon clone, we get one every year or so

how to develop enough autism to make a map like this all alone?

https://map.projectzomboid.com

>>528283627
is toby really AA? how much could either game really have cost to make

>>528283686
It has my waifu.

>>528282859
>Sean Barrett
Damn, I didn't know this was the guy who made stb...my legs, they are kneeling out of reflex

>>528283686
> have waifus?
Yes, it even has traps and futa.

>>528283686
Yes, but I have to prepare for work. I can't post them right now.

>>528283686
if your standards are low enough

just a friendly reminder that if a mindset you have doesn't work for yesdev it wont magically work tomorrow, in a week, in a year or in 20 years. your mindset is just wrong.

>>528283686
No. It features a female character, but no one is going to want to waifu a dirty and smelly neet.

>>528283820
He has a playlist where he makes an advance minecraft clone with physics and shit. The guy added predictive multiplayer within a week from scratch. Actual chad.

>>528284007
That's female privilege though
As a woman you are ALWAYS someone's fetish.

>>528283652
Ya bro, I know you won't give him credit for doing 99.999999% of the work because you're butthurt, that's fine. I already said you're right. He didn't first create the universe so you're technically correct. Congrats.

Also yes you can have testers. Save up 1k and pay 3rd worlders on fiverr or something. Quit being a bitch.

>>528284226
>Also yes you can have testers.
Did I ever say otherwise? My whole point is that you should NOT try to be solo. Yes, you should hire testers. Barone had contractors helping on art too. You should hire art contractors too. Hire code contractors if you can afford it.

do you start by making it extremely easy or hard when balancing difficulty?

>>528283949
What a strange post

>>528284505
I hate the concept of difficulty selection. How do I plan to handle casuals you ask?
Ans: Konami Code
You can use cheatcodes to make the game easier

>>528284618
i should've asked chatgpt before posting it. it's better to make it difficult at first then toning it down because it allows you to test mechanics to the fullest and find out what would frustrate the player.
it's more abstract when it comes to turn based games where damage avoidance isn't always guaranteed so i should've specified that.

>>528278770
Keep struggling fren

>>528284830
I still hate difficulty selection. If you are adding it to your game, make sure to actually mark the "intended" difficulty according to you. I hate when I have to dig through forums to figure out what difficulty is a game designed around, and what are added later as a hack.

>>528285193
my game will just have one difficulty with options to cheese the game

no one really mentions this but back then you didn't have to compete with live service and mobile games that were designed to keep players playing one game forever.

>>528285494
My MMORPG will keep players playing my one game forever.

>>528285170
i've been collecting bocchi images for a while now (to train AI on) and i've been noticing something. there's a lot of memes that just don't make sense. i actually don't believe that knowing the context having seen the anime would make them make sense. They're just completely lolrandom. they're just inserting goto into random scenarios, often straight up replacing the original character with goto and not modifying the joke whatsoever
im starting to think that bocchi is some kinda meaningless brainrot, and that goto has no personality or identifiable traits that would facilitate creation of humorous content. It's almost like they WANT to reference bocchi, but there's NOTHING to reference, so the end result is just "look it's an image of goto and she's uhhh basically not doing anything at all"

post dev fuel

>>528285494
nobody asked you to make a game. it's your own choice to compete. you are like league of legends players who rant that other people are better than you.
no you aren't special, no you aren't the main character, no you aren't destined to be the best, no others are not idiots, no others are not low iq.

other people have built skyscrapers and nuclear bombs, you can't even build a video game. stop thinking you are the main character.

>>528285612
I've been collecting bocchi images just to upset the posters here who cry about it

>>528285494
shit im not even competing with the customers of league of legends im competing with myself between my project and that hell pit of a timesink

>>528284428
>Did I ever say otherwise?
>Having multiple people paid to constantly test your game and give feedback and ideas is not a resource available to anyone in this thread.

Yes, you did

>>528285992
People in these threads "don't" but they "can." You're misunderstanding my point: don't try to be solo like half the idiots on agdg.

i'm making a multiplayer game

>>528285494
The people who play one game forever are actually very open to new games. They just want the game to be good. I play like 2 games a year on average. One of them was Indie, Stardew, the other was from a AA studio, Helldivers. I'm playing D4 now just out of respect for what the series once was. But it's shit for the most part. If you can't beat AAA in terms of fun, you have an issue. Now really is the time of Indies. We can make far larger indie games than the past, and AAA literally cannot make a good game as a result of western business law, western philosophical under pinning's being broken, and anyone with a clue has pretty much retired or will never reach management due to skin color and gender identity.

>>528286196
me too. im making a multiplayer game as a single person

>>528286196
They don't usually do that well.

>>528286147
I'm not trying to be solo. Ideally I delegate out all aspects of game dev other than Idea guying. For the moment I'm forced to program. But I already work with an artist, allowing for twice the game to be made than if I did it myself. Even Stardew was likely held back dramatically by Eric making all the music and art. There's actually not much to do other than farm and a few mini games.

>even if i worked for 4 years and the game was a flop, I would have learned so much, I would have grown as a person and I would have the dignity of like, I had finished a project and I feel that is important too and that can, you know... if you keep that going, eventually, you're really increasing your chances of something happening... it's better than doing nothing!

https://youtu.be/83DYlsJoaFk?feature=shared&t=4032

>>528286430
it's co-op pve friendslop
after experimenting with multiple singleplayer games i realized that i only enjoy multiplayer games
i can't make a singleplayer game, i lack the passion

>>528286331
nice, good luck

>>528280816
>unzips

the reason they make 50k games per years is so you play them, and not so you sit in unity and dev on a game. be a consumer.

>>528286550
Fantastic interview. It's actually shocking how much me and Eric think alike. Almost like I'm destined to be the next Eric Barone.

>>528286316
how does an indie making a turn based game compete with the likes of gachas with their giant budgets and player retention tactics?

>>528286464
>Even Stardew was likely held back dramatically by Eric making all the music and art. There's actually not much to do other than farm and a few mini games.
It's very telling that the main area of the game where he did contract help (getting hired testers to refine the addiction loops) was probably the most key part to Stardew's success.

Also, he sort of did have help on the art. He refuses to credit them because he threw out the contractor-made assets and replaced them all with his own, but his art style would have been drastically different if he did not have those contractor-made assets as a reference. The huge style changes that can be seen in the "iteration timeline" pictures are due to switching his style to imitate the contractor-made references.

>>528286464
>Even Stardew was likely held back dramatically by Eric making all the music and art. There's actually not much to do other than farm and a few mini games.
Disgusting take. Hopefully bait

>>528286550
this is what i needed, i wouldn't give 4 years of my prime to this hobby though. maybe a year or two.

>>528286892
Is this the new advanced form of the "nepobaby sponsored by microsoft" bait?

>>528286550
>if you keep that going, eventually, you're really increasing your chances of something happening... it's better than doing nothing!
This is an incredibly incorrect and dangerous mindset because it ignores opportunity cost. The alternative to wasting your time on a doomed project is not "doing nothing," the alternative is doing something that will actually succeed.

Imagine if he actually had wasted 4 years making something else instead of Stardew. The opportunity cost of that disastrous decision would be all the profits of Stardew.

>>528287114
ngmi

>>528287092
It's not bait, it's a warning to the Barone-worshipping idiots on agdg who insist on doing everything solo "because Barone did" when even Barone didn't actually do everything solo.

>>528286773
i want to but i need the money to buy art

>>528286550
if his game would have flopped his gf would have left him and his parents would have told him to get a job. that's the actual truth.

>>528286773
If they wanted me to play games they wouldn't charge more than I can afford for them.

I wonder how much it would cost to contract Raph Koster as a game design advisor for my MMORPG.

> muh nepo
> muh hack
Say it with me:
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528287239
>Source: I made it up because he has an Xbox hat and he spoke about using the contractor model for help post release

>>528287393
they want you to work 9 to 5 and send them a chunk of your income

>>528286890
By picking a genre they can make a fun complete game in, while taking that genre to new heights in at least 1 area. I haven't played Undertale but they seem to have drastically altered combat, so it's a new experience for fans of that genre.

>>528286920
I'm not saying it was a bad choice to handcraft the whole game. But in terms of features, it's just obvious that if Eric spent 5 years doing the art, music, marketing, then the game is going to have less features programmed in. I mean he admits this himself, he didn't have time to get all his ideas in. It's not a bad take, you just don't understand either the post, or opportunity cost.

>>528287339
This. It's piss easy to say "I'm glad I did it, even if I failed" when you didn't fail.
People on agdg would learn far, far more studying and learning from the bitter failures on agdg than from obsessing over successful celebrities.

>>528287339
Even if that was true >>528287294
doesn't invalidate anything he said

>>528287468
That's what I'm doing, making games 9 to 5.

>>528287543
>studying and learning from the bitter failures on agdg
Has anyone made a video essay for that?

Unironically it could be big. There are channels with 500k view vids that do nothing but narrate over 4chan posts.

May you have a weekend full of progress Anon!

>>528287719
Thank you, thank you.

>>528287543
the correct term for that is pre-mortem and you're right

let's say civilization crashes in 6 months and you know it will. what would you be doing now?

>>528287719
Good girl.

Half the year is now behind us, and I don't feel any closer to my game's release than I did 6 months ago when I made my new year's resolution to finish this year. Instead all I feel is constant exhaustion as I grimace at the many steps ahead of me. I want to scream or cry but I don't even have the energy left to do that. And even if I did, it's not like the boulder would become any lighter and easier to push.

>>528287846
> what would you be doing?
The same thing I am doing now, i.e, working towards something I want.

>you can have a team of 120 people working on your game and still be solo
what kind of absolute goddamn retard can even think of typing this shit?

>>528287543
learn from the mistakes of others

>>528287846
Civilizations can rebuild, Zach.

>>528287978
why does it have any importance what others think or say? all that matters is the money they send to your bank account.
gamedev is not about honor.

>>528287846
find a way to have sex before I die as a virgin, probably couldn't do it without rape in less than 6 months
otherwise I'd just keep doing what I'm doing right now

>>528288124
how's the weather in tel aviv?

>>528288203
smoky

Your game doesn't need to be destroyed, the market already killed it.

You broke the cardinal rule of commercial game development, and built a worse version of a game that already exists.

TIme to make trailer number... what is this? 6?

Games about being strapped to a table while large creatures sniff and examine your body?

>>528271632
>>528284428
>>528286892
Any recs where to (cheaply) hire good playtesters? Nobody plays my game on demo day

>>528288346
I’m at about that number too

you cannot work on something hard and consistently unless you truly believe in it.
doing something that goes against your beliefs will cause stress and stress burns you out.
that's why most kids will succeed at the job their parents did, because they know for a fact that it will work.

>>528288294
A game can worse in many areas if it does one or more new things very well. Helldivers is an example. No campaign. Repetitive missions. Buggy. Yet, very successful. Truly dynamic battles with dynamic player abilities and many possible player builds took 3rd person shooters to new exciting heights. In many ways a game like Gears of War was far better. But Gears didn't have that dynamic combat. Helldivers was also pro fascism, and if you can squeeze that into your game without being canceled that's like a cheat code to winning.

>>528287443
I do wonder........
Who else besides Raph would be good as an MMO game design advisor?
There is no one else.

>>528285494
Why make a slop game that never ends when you can make a good game that ends?
Star Fox 64 is one of the greatest games of all time and it's about 10 hours if you squeeze it dry.

>>528288723
Ghostcrawler but he’s engaged already.

>>528262029
if you have to ask, cut scope

Eric's cousin is the CFO of Microsoft, he was living rent free for half a decade on a building owned by his girlfriend's oil tycoon parents while Chucklefish was slaving away making 80% of Stardew Valley.

>>528288723
I know someone but I'm not going to name them. They are an industry vet though and have offered to assist me if anything arises question wise. It helps I've know them for like 25 years.

>>528289017
cringe

>>528269591
nice

>>528288810
see >>528263082

>>528289001
If you want to shoot yourself in the foot intentionally working solo to chase a solo dev mythology that didn't actually happen, go right ahead. Clearly you care more about fulfilling this imagined "solo dev" role than making an actually good game.

>>528289001
Who cares. Afterwards with the success he still works endlessly for free content. I don't give a shit about any dev or any youtube drama you faggots discuss 24/7 but your pathetic whines about real life are oh so tiring.


Not everything is fair, deal with it.

>>528289095
Why is that cringe?

>>528285494
true but perpetual live service games eventually become stale, causing people to desperately crave unique experiences
your players won't "main" your game, but they'll absolutely love it for the short duration it exists if it's good enough
there is still hope

>>528279549
why is her arm so long and skinny

>>528288896
That guy is a fat jew with a fat dog. All he knows is WoW. He supposedly left the riot MMO project to "spend more time with his family" then he immediately creates his own MMO studio.
I have zero faith in these old industry fogies.
>but who applicable wouldn't be an industry fogie
Raph has at least written his theories and studies and considerations down. I don't know of anyone else in this space who writes.

>>528289017
Your post has reminded me of the M&M guy.

Off topic to this conversation thread I've started: A lot of the guys who M&M guy interviews seem to be semi-clueless and seem like they sleepwalked through their rising positions. Invariably, an "MMO guy" career starts as a clueless 20 year old in QA.

>>528289228
true, great games are made by a group of skilled individuals. even retro games like chrono trigger had a multimillion dollar budget. i blame solo devs like super meatboy dev that lucked out when standards were low, we're going to see how badly his new game flops to expose him for the fraud that he is.

>>528289273
>he still works endlessly for free content.
He doesn't, the contractors do all the work, he spends his days fucking around in a private island his father bought after stepping down as the Boeing CEO

>>528289580
Isn't it already a success. Mewgenics or whatever. Looks super fucking gay but it seems like it's something his reddit normie audience will eat up

>>528289541
I don't know the M&M guy, but yeah this guy wasn't a lead or anything in the beginning but created crucial systems that changed the genre. Then of course needed to pay bills so never did his own thing and just offers code and skills to high bidders.

>>528289668
You just sound jealous and gay. Who cares.

>>528283627
Really? There's no AAA dev that has a better one? Wild.

>>528289541
>All he knows is WoW. He supposedly left the riot MMO project to "spend more time with his family" then he immediately creates his own MMO studio.
Oh, didn’t know about that. I was actually looking forward to Riot MMO, thinking it may turn out nice as old-style WoW. Now there will be 2 flops instead, it seems.

>>528289889
>You just sound jealous and gay. Who cares.
Pretty sure he's just trolling. But ya, he's jealous and gay.

>>528289541
>Raph has at least written his theories and studies and considerations down. I don't know of anyone else in this space who writes.
Where can I find them?
I wasted my youth playing MMOs so I consider myself preddy good at design but I could obviously never test it as I'm a friendless solo dev stuck making singleplayer games. It'd be cool to read someone else's thoughts.

>>528289889
Well I don't have a high bid. At most I could offer a couple of thousand.

But this all kind of pointless to think about because I'm a megaslacker and I don't even have a game. I am borderline-competent and my drive and energy are 1/10th what they should be.

>>528289960
It definitely won't be like old WoW, it had ghostcrawler involved and he sucked. Now they have to continue that vision or fix it so either way you won't see it for 10 more years. Funny how Riot is on 5 years and has shown nothing for it yet people were shitting on star citizen because it didn't release even though they show all dev progress. It took WoW 4 years to be made btw.

>>528288252
stupid babbling zoomerfaggot, stop using your computer if you dont have anything to say

>>528290154
raphkoster.com

Also I linked a video of him earlier: >>528270637

>>528290121
He's a Barone worshipper trying to ridicule those who point out that Barone wasn't actually a pure solo dev like mythologized and that trying to be a solo dev to imitate the Barone mythology is a self-destructive behavior.

>>528289716
>Isn't it already a success. Mewgenics or whatever. Looks super fucking gay but it seems like it's something his reddit normie audience will eat up
I always love to see how contrarian chudddie-faggot tries to act cool and calls people normies and such

Retar you would beg reddit normies to play your game you absolute swine

>took 15 years solo in his spare time
>while working as a japanese salaryman
>worked on a game he wanted to play but didn't exist
>an actual rpg with a soulful & epic story and not some treadmill farming sim
you should be inspired by this guy instead

>>528290445
>soulful
>soul
>sovl
if you see these words on 4chan - ignore the poster. It's a shit taste weeb loser usually

>>528282679
the guy behind lethal company seems to be a true 1ma. That game's success was lightning in a bottle though

>>528290445
I've had that game on my wishlist for some time now, just waiting for a good vibe-month to play it

>>528290413
How am I the contrarian. That dev is always the one "I'm like a heckin weirdo, I hate having a job and I like cats and irony and bloody things haha." Dudes acting he's not just a normal redditor with a host of mental illness.

I respect anyone who makes and finishes a game and I'm happy he made a career off it. But don't come at me acting like I should give a shit about mewgenics OR meatboy. Reminded of his former partner who made the classic statement like "We aren't making some hack game like Halo" and then they go on to make a hack platformer. But but but it's super heckin hard and zany! Ya I know, I know.

>>528283117
Barone also had unlimited monetary and emotional support from his gf during the entire development

>>528290703
and he's a furchad

>>528290413
>>528290798
>newfaggot beaners arguing
lol stupid spics

I should honestly make kaliina 2, not as a way to make money or get into steam or being rich.

Just as a way to try to make something as good as the oc-remixes of SOTN.

A game to BTFO the industry, like I always proclaimed and claimed, my dear chuds.

A game made of just anger to prove that I was the rock lee, unlike all the people that mocked me over my life.

A 10/10 masterpiece.
That should be my goal.

>>528290917
Ya, and why can't you manipulate some ho into supporting you. Blacks get a stable of bitches to sell their ass. And you can't even get a gf to fucking believe in you? Work on your charisma.

If I wanna make smaller project to put on itch with Unity, is there anything specific I need to be mindful of? My biggest worry is figuring out how resolution work and making the UI not spaz out after a lot of work.

>>528291026
---> >>528290305

>>528290798
trying too hard

post your game screenshot, nobody

>>528290747
it's one of those masterpieces that you should never play because it has around 150h worth of play time

>>528277779
sounds like the game maker - > godot pipeline

If you did your research you would know that when he was 2 years into development Barone got a 5 million dollar grant from Israel to include gay marriage in his game. That's also the reason the internet was flooded with Stardew articles when the game released, for the first 6 months they had an entire company whose sole purpose was shilling the game

>>528291071
Blacks get a stable of black chicks lmao

>>528291148
right after you post hand, Juan

>>528290917
same

>>528291106
Idk how resolution really works either. I've just been starting my game and changing resolution to see how it looks, and then working with chat gpt to improve it. Basically you set the rect transform values for the main containers by pressing on that Square within a Square and press alt, and then pick where it should generally go. Between that, and using vertical and horizontal groupings, I seem to be making progress. But idk what I'm doing and my unity is super fucking outdated so who knows if what I'm doing even exists in the new versions.

At the end of the day, does it really matter how many people made a game. Obviously it's easier to make a game if there are more people. Everyone who made a very successful game at some point received and accepted help in some form.

It's dumb to have this ideal that 'no one touches my game but me'. Yes some people think that's how successful solodev games get made so the misconception is frustrating. But let's just accept the reality that 'solodevs' start the project on their own, and as development accelerates they accept help.

It's less about how many hands touched the game and more about the creation process.

>>528291240
Hey, Barone worshipper, we aren't insulting your precious Barone when we point out the mythology romanticizing him as a "solo dev" is wrong. We're only pointing out the mythology is wrong in order to dissuade naive young devs from self-sabotaging by trying to chase the "solo dev" myth.

>>528291148
My game will be finished soon enough. But no, I'm not going to post, just so in a year you have a screen shot of me going off on mewgenics to rile up reddit to cancel me. "This mother fucker doesn't love cats! Let's kill that Hitler mother fucker!"

>>528291279
you'd be surprised

I don't want to work on my game, I want to be held by a large monster.

>>528291978
see >>528290305

>>528292039
>s-shut up!
No

>>528292147
See >>528292039

>>528291524
lmao godspeed, UI is truly the bane of my existence

Little did you know Eric had at least 12 Xbox industry veterans running the bulk of the project. Barone himself would mostly handle the inconsequential "creative decisions" like he would give the professional artists a written description(sometimes a rough sketch) of the clothing and hair color of the characters and he would pick their names. Look it up instead of believing everything media tells you.

56 cents per click in advertising AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>528292643
In my experience, these things don't actually de-stress most employees but instead increase their stress, because they assume it's a trap to get them fired.

>>528292643
>tfw you push a commit one week sooner than expected and you get an extra 5 minutes in the ball pit
hell yeah

I refuse to advertise my game. If my game is good it will naturally attract customers. If my game does not attract customers then it was bad and deserved to fail anyways.

>>528292948
Among Us was out for 2 years before it blew up

Maybe the Unabomber was right...

>>528293245
He was right in his observations, but his methods to attempt to change the situation were wrong, and he admitted as such later in life.

Ok I'm stuck on a game design problem.

I'm working to get the Vamps (humanoid) form into my game. So the question is: what gameplay purpose is there for transforming?

I'd like to implement it so that when you take damage or mess up, you transform back to the Vamps form where you're more vulnerable and less mobile. Then you have to survive in that state until you regain the energy to transform back.
As I write this out, I'm worried it won't be fun. Like if you crash into a building with no NPCs around, you transform back into Vamps form, can't do much, and are forced to wait until you can get back to Batty form to play the game. Maybe all the NPCs are alerted to your presence when you go to Vamps form?

Anyways... what I actually meant to write about here was figuring out when the player is transformed into Vamps form. I shouldn't do it every time the player takes damage, it would be too punishing. So I was thinking you get three 'lives' and when you take damage three times you revert to Vamps form.
But then I'd have a 'lives' system on top of the red orb HP system, wouldn't that be confusing?
The alternative is you transform back to Vamps upon losing all your red orb blood energy, and being in Vamps form replenishes it. But that means I remove the lose condition. Would that be bad? Do games need a lose condition? It would break my endless levels but no one likes those anyways.

>>528293429
Yet his methods brought attention to the issue and popularized his manifesto across the world more than asking nicely would have ever done.
As some US general once said, it's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission.

>>528293467
>Do games need a lose condition?
If you have some sort of progression system, failing to progress is already a lose condition.

>>528293467
make it a "make or break" situation, where if you manage to kill a human while in human form, you get a temporary boost that's really satisfying to have, visually and mechanically (some kind of temporary heat-seeking mode, or speed boosts, or a boost to night vision that also echolocates a nearby victim)
if there's nothing "special" to gain out of getting out of that last ditch mode, yeah it will suck
didn't read the last paragraph sorry

>>528293429
His methods were nothing but a clout chase, in modern parlance.

>>528293467
not memeing, try asking chat gpt

>>528290445
a game about digging a hole probably made the same amount of money as this

it's godover

>>528294496
Does anyone remember the potato salad kickstarter? $50k for a meme.

gamedev is like being a criminal, you have to have low fear and take high risk to do it.
why? because creative work is always high risk. you cannot do creative work without also taking high risk. creativity is all about trying and failing, which is something you cannot do if you want security. fear is the death of creativity basically.

>>528292775
>56 cents for one click
Surely not USD right? I don't understand how that's even possible?

>>528292785
well, you must be a faggot if you wanna keep earning, thats how it is
t. HR roastie

>>528294932
targeting rich usa people on iOS.
im working on lowering it though.

>>528293245
see >>528290305

>>528285612
You already posted this, and you exactly said it, it's just funny random situations that are perfect for reaction images. You're severely autistic also.

you wanted to see if you can make a game, you realized you can't. but what's next?

>>528294846
But you have to be able to push reward off far into the future. So the opposite of a criminal mind in that sense. But really you're correct, and this is why it's the domain of white men primarily. And of course some Asians. No African ever looked at the horizon, standing on a beach and thought to himself, what treasures lay beyond this sea? And then built a boat to go explore. But many become high risk low reward criminals.

>>528295236
oh mobile ad? well as long as you have ultra predatory monetization mechanics like most mobile slop then you dont have to worry too much about new user acquisition cost

AI art, check
AI music, check
AI story, check
AI programming, check
Okay... so where's AI that can put everything together into a full game?

>>528295324
Get married, have kids, and hope they turn out more talented than me

>>528295502
you could have AI guide you through Unity as you piece it together, but that's about as close as you can get right now

>>528293801
>If you have some sort of progression system
My game has barely anything really, but maybe someday it will

>>528294132
That's a good thought. I think it may come down to the balance of what's 'fun'. If transforming to Vamps is a 'punishment' for making mistakes, does that mean it needs to be less 'fun' than Batty form? What if it's more fun?
>didn't read the last paragraph sorry
Well what you missed is I'm not seeing this as a 'make or break' scenario. You get to play forever and you are just put in the cuck form for messing up and then in that form you get your energy back to go to the effective form.
But yeah, in general everything has to be fun. there has to be satisfaction to be found in any part of the gameplay.

>>528294376
I hate AI, it was predictably superficially helpful but contentless. The only thing it said that got me thinking was you could still die in Vamps form. I could do that without the blood energy if the NPCs got enough hits on Vamps or trapped her. Or I could have a line on the orb, so you have a transform line and then full depletion is dead?

>>528295502
i make music for a decade and i made some instrumental music with ai (not the slop normies create) and it sounded better than everything i ever composed. it's kinda sad.
it's not even so much about the melody, it's that the sound-design of what ai generates is far more rich. it would take so much tweaking and automation with synthesizers to get that sound, it'd take months...

is it true that I should stay away from Godot if I suffer from AGP?

>>528295989
>suffer
What
It's a fetish

>>528295989
I cured my AGP in 5 minutes with one simple trick.
I realized if I were a woman I'd have a lot more prolactin and a lot less testosterone so I wouldn't be super fucking horny all the time like I am right now.

If I suffer from extreme retardation and intellectual incapability, should I stay away from enginedevving? HMMM??????

Should I stay away from MMOdevving? HMM?

>>528296363
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>528296438
oops we probably are thinking of two different types of AGP acronyms.
Sorry.

I hate this general

>>528295989
Maybe you should stop pretending to have mental problems and finish your game?

after six months of not coming here I realise my impulse to visit the thread comes out of loneliness
haha
don't give me (You)s it'll make it worse
can a mod ban me? for serious. 365 days please

>>528296425
no. But you really gotta want it.

Almost done

>>528296658
Doubt it

>>528295530
anon... you'd be the bottleneck for your kids' talent...

>>528296594
what you just said about women is just incorrect dude
they have a switch in their brains they cannot turn off, they dont know how.
thats why women can cum multiple times indefinitely

>>528296693
got it, no yous.

I love this general and its people.
It is my 4chan home.

>>528296693
>>>/r9k/

>>528295879
>it's that the sound-design of what ai generates is far more rich. it would take so much tweaking and automation with synthesizers to get that sound, it'd take months...
AI still can't make ok tier dubstep, which is my litmus test for sound design