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>>528201058>Grand Duel Berserker:โJune 20~27 JST.
โถRequirements: Clearing OC prologue.
โถLogin Bonus: 7 Golden Apples.
โถLimited Master missions: 3SQ and 18 Stargazer's Teapots.
โถPermanent Master missions: 1 Torch of Polar Star, 1 Torch of Morning Star, 1 Torch of Nova, 1000 Stellar Sand,
6 5*Fou-kun (3ATK, 3HP) and 50 Berserker Beast's Footprints.
โถPermanent Master missions for unlocking and strengthening Grand Berserker: 18 SQ, 7 Grail Tears, 2 5*Fou-kun (1ATK, 1HP),
2 4*Fou-kun (1ATK, 1HP), 20 Hellfire of Wisdom plus Berserker ascension materials and skill gems.
โถBerserker class Servants:
-Double the EXP when strengthening.
-Chances of getting a Great/Super Success will be tripled.
โถAP consumption for Ember Gathering Quests will be halved.
โถAP consuption for Berserker Training Field will be halved.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/grand_berserker/
>Grand Duel Berserker PU summon:โJune 9~27 JST.
โถCheck each PU in the link below
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/2025_berserker_pu/
>Wings of Lacrimation:โJune 4~25 JST (3 weeks).
โถRequirements: Fuyuki.
โถLogin Bonus: 3 Golden Apples and 18 Silver Apples.
โถNEW Costume Dress for Odysseus and Typhon Ephemeros.
โถStormpods quests they will have their AP consumption halved.
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/rakuruinotsubasa/
>Wings of Lacrimation Typhon PU summon:โJune 4~25 JST.
5*Pretender Typhon Ephemeros (limited)
https://news.fate-go.jp/2025/rakuruinotsubasa_pu/
>Wings of Lacrimation pre-campaign PU Summon:โ~June 25 JST.
โSee OP
>>525438525>New Limited Craft Essence added to Mana Prism Shop:โAvailable until August 31.
"For the Promised Bride"
โถIncreases Bond Points gained from Lawful Female Servants by 4% (20% MLB).
>/fgog/ Friendlist form (2025):https://forms.gle/WK4dwSC6Mn2WQfZu8
>Utility links:https://pastebin.com/iaWmXAq7
they literally only chose Herk to be a Grand to undermine Lilith because Nasu's mad people like her more than they like Musashi
>>528311181 (OP)the greatest hero
>>528311297Nasu always had a hateboner against Higashide
>>528311297actually it was the jews
Complaining about Herk's mental resist is like complaining that Galahad had debuff immunity in his boss fight (and a hidden 200% mental resist passive). It kinda goes with the territory.
>>528311297Don't forget they chose a Grand Zerker that has both passives Cummer gets bonus damage on.
>>528311636The Galahad esque JP posts about making the fight "fair" are pretty funny
>>528311636fuck off nasu shill
>>528311297>more than they like Mashu*
Is Saber still a good Christian girl?
>>528312142Who even use those shit CEs
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I sure hope Solomeme is gigabusted because this shit is going to going to be fucking grim otherwise bwos...
>>528312267She should be but ironically the only Round that seems remotely religious is Galahad. I donโt I think I saw any other of them ever talk about God
>>528312541my NP5 Circe is ready to own that nerd...
>>528312541illya can solo the grand caster with no problem
>>528312142Bonding with Pent
>>528312384What ces would you even use while farming a grand duel if not bond ces?
>>528311297You really think they prepared for months before this (or a year) because "Oooh we're going to own the future fags of Mashu's orbiter! That'll teach them!"
remember the soulmate of herc
>>528312541What's...that?
>>528312541>class with arts supports out the ass>somehow completely avoided having a 5* arts st of its own for 10 full years
>>528313583They're literally reused Agartha animations. What the fuck do you mean "preparing for months"
>>528313357Bond CEs that work on everyone
>>528312542iirc bedivere said he got some sort of blessing simply for witnessing galahad ascending
>>528313863"Alter Ego/Berserker will surely be enough" clueless DW intern that never thought about using Casters vs a likely 750k+ HP boss
>>528313883That giant bow? Making it cost us a month of content
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>>528313770That's all of the Single Target NP Casters in the game.
As a very quick comparison, these are NP5 100, Double Support, MLB BG, and Decisive Battle Numbers.
Sanzo is lower but in the same ballpark as Ilya.
Ilya/Sanzo need NP2 to outdamage welfare Caster Shuten.
>>528314463And so? The gameplay is all numbers. It was their decision to throw in he anti-Lilith build onto Herc and they easily could have done it at any point in gamedev
>>528314530on the plus side we have most of the supports possible
>>528313984If you can fit 2 or more characters on your team that align with the specialized 20% bond bonuses that's a better payoff than using 5% bond for everyone.
>>528311297>they literally only chose Herk to be a Grand to undermine Lilith because Nasu's mad people like her more than they like MusashiNo heracles was chosen because HE IS the berserker.
It's like one of the only few times they make a GOOD decision and you fags are still angry about this.
You're all insufferable.
Anyone know how to calculate NP5 Summer Sei's damage with double Morgan and 2004 MC?
>>528314868>No heracles was chosen because HE IS the berserkerHe is the one that jobbed to EMIYA 6 times in his normal container. That's no Grand.
>>528314868Uh no Beo is the BERSERKER it's in the name.
Herk is a mad Mediterranean not a Berserker
>>528315092>in his normal containerYou're halfway there, I know it's dangerous, but keep thinking.
>>528314868literally hercs weakest class, retarded nasu bootlicker why don't you tongue nasu's asshole harder
>>528315092That's how you know he's too strong, Nasu had to use THAT (offscreen powers)
>>528315189Solomon no diff'd a HGW in his normal container lmao.
>>528314868No, thatโs Ibaraki
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>>528314530Chen Bong isn't great for this but he's a budget option you may have grailed for gameplay reasons already, and a much better pick than the evil witch.
>>528315254Oh yes, very impressive from Mr "Uh, get desummoned nerd"
>>528315204He jobbed to Saber Alter, Gil and even Rin on screen. And couldn't get past REGEND. Is that how a Grand candidate should feel like in its normal container? Because that's outright pathetic when compared to what Solomon did.
>>528315254He did? I remember he won but not what was said about the circumstances? Where was it stated he fought anyone at all.
is it really fair to compare the unga class with the wizard class
>>528315426Normal container is irrelevant.
Some heroes get hamstrung by efficiency issues, some get by since it doesn't impede them.
>>528315376Meanwhile Herk jobbed to Solomon's dad lol. Herk ain't even the worst pick so dw, Musashi is worse. She can't beat Asterios yet was made Grand.
>>528312542Percival is too. Basically only the three Grail Knights (Galahad, Percy, Bors) ended up as holy knights. The rest are closer to fairies.
reminder Xians would be too much for a HGW (this is after Karna and Gil were made as a concept iirc)
>>528315426REGEND is literally the equal of another grand candidate, and only lost due to cheating.
Thus, we can also infer that swallows are on an equal footing as Grand Servants.
From that we can also infer, that jet fighters, which are really just much superior swallows, are above Grand Level.
From which we can then also infer, that JETS is above above Grand Level.
Q.E.D.
>>528315581He's a Grand, faggot. Merlin too could fucking hold the Chaos Tide all on his own while on normal container. We also have that Chink who is Beast tier on his normal container. Grands were supposed to be the strongest so naturally their normal container in their Grand class should mog most Servants.
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would eggfawf be cool with Grand Lancer Cu if it happens?
>>528314868Berserker is Herc's weakest class and jobs non-stop in it tho
>>528315984No, because unless they also give me a new, non-shitty-whore's fanfiction 5 Star Cu, I will not be happy.
>>528315984I don't think it's gonna happen because if they go for Irish lancers they'll 100% choose Scat.
>>528315882Reading comprehension retardbro
I'm not listening to someone who clearly speedread Chunguska.
Taigong was explicitly not in a typical Servant container, he was larping like Merlin.
Merlin also isn't in a normal Servant container at any point in time.
This isn't DBZ, faggot. Take your linear powerlevels to your spic forums.
>>528315775We have a Xian and Xian copycat and both were Grand tier/Candidate. But Grands are a joke now since Musashi so it doesn't matter anymore.
>>528315984Well Gay Bulge is stronger than Gungnir so why not?
>>528316289this isn't DBZ but the powercreep has gotten rather retarded by now
remember when Zerkers had to give up nearly fucking everything? They sure ditched that rule fast.
>>528314868Herk is a joke in this franchise. I'm sorry, but that's just how it is, he's been a jobber midboss shitter killer for 20 years. There's no magic way to reset people's impression of him unless you release a new version of him, which is what people wanted. Instead we get a fanservice pick that has lost fights more than pretty much any other Servant in the franchise.
>>528316475Concession accepted.
>>528316289>Merlin also isn't in a normal Servant container at any point in time.They literally aren't Grands. So they are normal. Being crown position aka Grand candidate is what makes the difference in power when compared to other Servants.
>>528311297oh look my first [-] of the thread
How the fuck are you retards getting baited by the same exact posts a second time, it's like a rerun of last thread.
>>528314530If you rely on crits Illya with double memerlin probably will do fine.
>>528316684>it's bait because I can't counterargue it
>>528316746yeah but that raises the issue of getting stars
>>528316760Your headcanon isn't worthy of the effort desu
GRAIL CUNNY
PRAISE CUNNY
LOVE CUNNY
MATE CUNNY
>>528316684I keep getting baited by Lilith, she charms me 10 out of 10 times.
>>528316914Translation: You are correct and I have nothing to argue against your facts.
Don't worry, I accept your concession.
>>528312541>Okuni, Shuten and Corday the only ones with anti-trait>Okuni and Shuten are anti-demonic>the only demonic caster is Shuten herselfGoing to be rough for sure.
>>528316858>mozartIn fact even plugsuit Sheba would probably work fine
>>528315775Toyosatomimi no Miko would solo fate
>>528317156Yeah must feel like shit not being able to argue and be left complaining about why others are talking about something you are unable to counter.
>>528316858Use Anniversary Blonde mystic code.
>>528317136Illya should dress like this more often.
>>528316516>Gil no diff'd Grand Berserker 20 years agoThe strongest Servant wins once again.
>>528317485On the other hand, giving him a Grand container won't do shit for him, and he himself says he doesn't qualify for Grand anyway.
His power is all borrowed from his armory.
>>528317107>>528316746I think using your own Grand Attacker NP chaining with a friend Grand Attacker and plug suit buffs will probably be fine.
And if it's not, I guess it's just time to farm the least shitty node instead of the highest difficulty one.
Barely even any Casters I'd want to Grand that would even really benefit from it anyway.
Have any FSN Servants kept up with current powercreep? Medea got some halfhearted praise, Herk basically follows the same fucking story beats every arc, Nasu tries his best to say EMIYA's an idiot jobber most of the time, Cu got some alts at least, Artoria and Gil are constant upscalers, Cursed Arm's static but the Hassans aren't really that amazing aside Gramps, and Koujiro got some love but on a smaller scale setting. Like, he'd probably do better in HGWs nowadays, but he's not too different to his usual.
>>528317715Grands are a joke weaker than Gil so why does that matter? Gil fucking destroyed Grand Berserker lmao.
>>528317715Giving him a Grand Saint Graph would definitely buff him because Living Gilgamesh >>> Servant Gilgamesh. It'd probably be the equivalent of him having his MMC of Genesis. That said, Gil strangely does not qualify. But now that we have fanservice Grands like Herk that might as well have been retconned.
>>528317940We need more true Gilwank he's been left behind and someone needs to remind Nasu about who was the original strongest servant
>>528318240God, that's the worst part of all the constant Gil upscaling. "Oh yeah stupid goldman that relies on his power-leeching infinite ammo NP was actually stronger back when it was limited"
>>528318240We've seen living Gilgamesh, and he's nothing special.
>>528317940Wait for the end of part 2 when Guda uses all of them to beat the final threat
>>528318240Gilgamesh strongest class is Gilgamesh just play CCC
>>528317940Cu dropped hard. He's jobbed more times than I can count.
Artoria went the same way as Cu.
Herk is the same as ever, a midboss.
Emiya is also the same as ever, a midtier who hits a little above his paygrade.
Only Gil has actual upscale imo.
>>528318607baka Nasu stealing from Prillya again
>>528318663Nasu unironically told Hiroyama to make his own series since his ideas were too good, but Hiroyama refused
>>528318636That's what the MMC of Genesis is, his Servant Saint Graph with the power of living Gilgamesh. The same could probably be achieved with a Grand Graph if Gilgamesh were given it.
>>528318607Guda needs his own official dudes for the seven original classes full of FGO originals
>>528318771Based loliman.
Why does Castoria hit so much harder than my Lilith? Does she have a conditional over Herk?
>>528316516>no magic way to reset people's impression of himSounds like that's the fault of the people who can't understand circumstance or context. Hercules, even in his worst class, wrecks the shit out of most HGW single-handedly because there are only so many normal Servants that can even scratch him. He's a hard wall for the vast majority of heroes even as a mindless beast. He's basically Grand Gatekeeper to relevance.
>>528319185reminds me of how before the Divine Construct addon, Achilles could theoretically solo stuff like Camelot and facetank Excalibur kek
>>528318445Strange Fake will take care of that if we ever get the next volume.
Powerlevelwise Grand candidates (not counting main story Grands) would be:
Saber: Rama/Altera/Galahad Alter
Lancer: Karna/Longinus/Altria
Archer: Gilgamesh/Herakles/Karna
Rider: Ozymandias/Tai Gong Wang
Caster: Tai Gong Wang/Gilgamesh
Berserker: Lancelot/Enkidu
>>528319496Didn't he fucking die?
>>528319798Dunno, I'm still reeling from "Alcides didn't oneshot the stupid cops because he was afraid Gil would cheapshot him from a battlefield away while toying with Richard"
>>528319769I think you are missing some bro but not bad choices overall.
>>528319798Gilgameme doesn't die when he's killed.
>>528319401Achilles is really funny because he's one of the most famous heroes with the most famous weakness, but his kit is overloaded with stuff he doesn't need with additional caveats that aren't wholly necessary because Higashide has a really weird sense of balance and seemingly-arbitrary restrictions.
Achilles still hard walls any war with Servants without Divinity or Divine Constructs UNLESS you can somehow hit his ankle, but that's already like 3 caveats on its own. He's weighed down with extra shit that really could have been separated into other classes so that Higashide could have eased the reins on some of the weird restrictions.
After the first round of Grands is done, I hope they do another round with the original Grands in proper Grand form if we donโt get any of them now. Even though the whole concept has been diluted to shit at this point, Iโd like to at least see them get something cool, something actually be fitting of something a grand.
Part of me thinks that we're just going to get Romulus/Orion/King Hassan as Grands again
>>528320028I wonder if Gramps will show that he's got his own Zabaniya
>>528319798He got better and came back in the Alter Ego class as "Serious Gilgameshโข.
>>528320028>having to stare at Orion and Romulus's ugly faces while grindingPlease no.
>>528319926Narita is such a silly guy.
Remember can't fear your own world? That was silly.
Narita is silly.
>>528320028I think if they were going to do that we would have ended with Tezca as Zerker and Artoria Avalon as Saber since they were there on Olga's dream
>>528319970Maybe Achilles on Rider and Scathach on Lancer.
I used to like the way Narita wrote fights, but he's clearly gone insane with it over the years. Reading his fights in Volume 9 is just painful now.
>>528320015I was reading the korean wiki and apparently Higashide's idea was to have some of his NPs to be actually skills, but Nasu was the one that pushed him with the ''he is a Rider so he can have 5''
>>528320348I sure love Alcides getting more and more shit only to fucking fail at doing anything without someone giving him pity wins
>>528317136>Letting Illya dress like a slutIri is a terrible mother.
>>528317136>Letting Illya dress like a slutIri is a based grandmother.
>>528315495We do see him completely unscathed in Solomon movie, just chilling and watching Fuyuki burn.
Why are retards pretending Berserker is Herk's "worst class"? You know he HAS his Archer skills as grand berserker right? He literally shoots in multiple directions in one animation.
>>528315495Depends what you mean by "fought". If you just immolate the entire city, was that even a battle?
>>528320418Don't recall the source but I think it was in some interview of development that Higashide came up with five potential NPs with the expectation that Nasu would tell him to use two or three of them but then Nasu said, "Yeah all five."
>>528321297People parroted it long ago and the baseless belief survived to this day by ignorant retards together with ''the Cavalry Classes are all rigged classes by the Three Families'' and like ''Ghostfreak is vulnerable to sunlight because he doesn't have the second skin''
Triple Buster Quick NP Zerks really get shafted by the Berserker Grand score, huh.
>>528321093Well yeah but for all we know he cast something to kill each master from 10 kilometers away and called it a day, or everyone else fought each other to death while Solomon avoided them with clairvoyance, Marisbury being victorious doesn't mean his servant went out and bodied everyone himself.
>>528321297If Herc has nine lives in Berserker then why did he never use it?
>>528321813Nah, Marisbury says explicitly that Solomon killed them all.
>>528316623>She's my only Bond 10 gold ST lancergrim, I hope the Grand Lancer isn't Roma or Scat or Lion King
>>528320418>>528321368Some of his stuff certainly seem more like skills, but if they were still his NPs, I think that the way to go is
>ankle/speed/immortality rolled into one and always an NP regardless of class due to it being inextricably linked to his name and fameThese things are all basically one package deal anyway. You could also just remove the speed as an NP and give him an absurd AGI stat or skill that plummets or is lost respectively if his ankle is pierced.
>chariot NP as Rider>spear NP with Duel Field as Lancer>armor and shield NP tied together and always present but only usable under certain conditions since he was less famous for their use than he was for lending them to othersYou can also just remove the attack part of the shield since it just exists as background wank material that people will always puzzle over him not using. This gives him 3 NPs in either of his main classes and you can reserve unrestricted use of his armor and shield for a hypothetical Shielder or Berserker Achilles.
>>528321813We see him body Saber in a flashback, I think.
>>528321328Fuyuki burning was only in the movie, but even if the city burned Servants and mages don't necessarily take damage. He's also the only Servant compared to Galahad, who we know is wanked. While Galahad has Camelot wank, Solomon has OC lore wank on his side by being Zelretch's and the Headmaster of Clocktower's teacher, among other shit.
Herk is greek. That means he's out to job.
>>528322106Fuyuki is burning in a lot of places bro, and it's magecraft, as noted by a bunch of servants visiting afterward.
Shouldn't Ruler have been Solomon's true class now that I think about it? He was inhumanly impartial and was a king known for his judgement and arbitration.
>>528322281If he's out to job then why doesn't he pay denbts?????
>>528321928>Marisbury:>Wonderfully done, Caster. We have eliminated all six of the other Masters.>Narration:>In the Fuyuki Holy Grail War, there would be no Servant survivors.>Narration:>All Servants were to be eliminated. Even I, the victor, was fated to commit suicide, compelled by my Master's Command Spell.Gotta be honest Anon, this sounds like Nasu's usual misleading bullshit, if Solomon had defeated everyone himself the boasting would be far more precise.
>>528322369Roman says he has no memory of Fuyuki burning in the game prologue. He also met Arthur a few days after that and the place wasn't burning.
>>528322493That scene has been depicted in more than three lines anon.
Go tell Nasu you know his characters better than he does lorechad.
>>528322374Yes, but humans misunderstood Solomon and recorded so shit through their interpretation of him. The Seal of Solomon is also called the Shield of Solomon.
>>528322867The game has a whole arc where people are suspicious of Roman and then Gil calls him out for lying about how Singularity restoration works, and Vinci mentions that Roman was hiding his true nature all along, but she figured it out herself.
Roman is concealing his identity for the vast majority of the time you see him.
>>528323068>Shield of SolomonOh no...
>>528322493Are you shocked a Servant who was compared to Galahad and Master Summoner no sold in a SUMMON war?
>>528322374Does it matter when all we summon are facets to a hero? Even if Hercules is best as Archer it isn't like he is locked into it.
The only servant that got ''locked'' into a class was Artoria to Saber and that was self-proclaimed, likely retconned.
>>528323232Or Fuyuki wasn't burning until Nasu decided to make le ebin reference? Roman being shocked Fuyuki burns at all when there's no record for it and meeting Arthur in a flashback we see with the place being unburned should be enough to tell you that.
>>528323326Yeah, he could be a Shielder if Nasu commits to the lore. But the issue I think is that humans saw Solomon as human and biased, despite the reality. Goetia made clear the Servant version of Solomon is different from the guy in life.
>>528323542cute headcanon
>>528323326The original purpose of the "seal" is because is a shield against evil. This is before that magic shit got lumped into him later in history.
>>528320015Apocrypha showed that Siegfried was at the very least equal to him if Siegfried didn't have such a retarded master. The original black team strategy apparently would have steamrolled the competition, but the second they lost Siegfried the entire plan sorta fell apart. Ultimately the red team had things planned out just a little deeper.
Original plan Jack could have struck Achilles Heel, leaving him vunerable. But the plan fell apart the second Jack betrayed her master the second she was summoned.
>>528318490>gets summoned a week later
>>528323937>state shit in game>m-muh headcanon!The conversation Solomon and Moneybills had in the game was not near the bridge, but inside the Greater Grail cavern.
>>528324505Buddy I ain't discussing your cherrypicked fanfiction.
>>528322374After OC4, I assume Galahad and Solomon became angels, and the Heroic Spirit records are remnants left behind like the Buddhas and Xians get that too.
>>528317136If I was kerry, I would let illya only dress like a slut
Is there any indication in the main story we're capable of randomly giving our Servants a Grand Vessel? Because at LEAST the Class Score was vaguely eluded, and our actions unlocked the Extra classes, but there's nothing about this gameplay feature.
>>528325357Your human order rank is now A rank
Officially you are now the human order, you are the vessel of humanity and Alaya, therefore you're the one that decides. Nasu will rationalize it later on during Ch8.
10th anniversary? Can we expect her bros?
>>528325604>10th anniversaryMore like 10th birthday
>>528320603>be Buzz Cola>be evil bastard>have literal liquid tons of resources>get a catalyst for THE hero>summon him in his most apt class>worried about Herc noticing you're an evil bastard and disagreeing with your methods>use all of your CS to force him to relive the worst moments of his life>use Grail mud to corrupt his body>infiltrate his vulnerable mind with a 3-way pincer attack of trauma, mud corruption, and your own evil magecraft>make him more pliable>purge him of his divine blood and give him a hateboner for the divine>strip him of his primary Noble Phantasm but replace it with 12 new ones based on his individual exploits>and an OC gonna steel NP just so he can have more shit>big problem>he's somehow way weaker and all of those extra NPs don't even remotely bring him close to what he could be>also still costs assloads of mana to maintain because instead of a simple but powerful tool kit he's gained a bloated kit full of situational to okay Noble Phantasms>half of which he won't even use because they're divine in natureBaz wasn't the sharpest crayon in the box.
>>528321857Too crazy to use a skill-based NP. Maybe Grand Berserker Herc is more lucid or the attack can be performed instinctively there.
Nine Lives is on his sheet as Berserker, so maybe you could use a CS to force him to use it like how Kariya could use a CS to force Lancelot to use For Someone's Glory for its true purpose when he normally wouldnt' be able to as Berserker.
>>528323401Artoria being locked to Saber is likely just a peculiarity of her summoning conditions in Stay Night and Zero. Not coming from the Throne of Heroes directly and instead being summoned as herself from a specific point in time means you can't really access multiple facets of her.
>>528311297Just have Duryo and use a supporto Ririsu-chan if the first charm doesn't hit lol
Been having no problems and able to 1-t the 100*** node with ease
>>528322374>Used a wish from the moneybills grail warNaw
>>528324236There is that, there is Kazikli Bey's 1km range, there is Chiron's Presence Concealment+arrows, Astolfo blinking of existence, there is territory itself at play which Achilles himself, also Jack gets forgotten so there isn't learning from it, theoretically Fran's lighting has aimboot etc.
There is no shortage of ways to score the heel shot there, some theoretically even 1 on 1 even they aren't easy, but they
>started without a servant (Jack)>Siegfried that could hold his own 1v1 in spite of inability to hurt him commits suicide (2 servants less)>Astolfo refuses to use much mana to not hurt the homunculi (Mordred even recognizes he feels stronger later with Sieg as his master)>they get Spartacus which should mitigate this somewhat. Spartacus then blows up against their own fortress anyway>in spite of Mordred moving separately from Red Faction she was still acting with the group and has a really competent master (enemy team functionally has still 6 servants).And then Darnic and Avicebron kill their own team further. The Black Faction was killing itself more than Red did.
Traum backs up them being really good in strategy and team fights even if they have to use a shabby terrain for that.
>>528327034Not to say it isn't like Achilles isn't gonna fight back since we know he is a walking army even without a good portion of his kit. I mean to say even if he is immortal, there is still fighting back.
Specially since in a war holding your own for a period of time can be the difference from magical supply decreasing or reinforcements arriving
>>528327034Add to this the fact that Red was stacked with killers as well
>Achilles requires a dedicated check to hold him off or put him down>Karna is a monster who more than easily kept up with Siegfried and had tricks left to spare>Mordred is basically a Berserker Artoria with a weaker but still great NP even if it's simple>Semiramis had all of the preparation in the world and became a super threat
>>528324236>>528327034If both teams fought each other at full power I still think red would steamroll desu, Karna + Achilles are a powerhouse and they have a fucking flying fortress that can nuke their castle at will. Mordred is pretty strong herself too.
>>528327093>>528326951When will they fix her sprite? The slit in her panties is missing
>>528327726Why is mashu blonde
>>528327673If you don't have Karna hooked up to a grail he is severely limited though and I imagine that in a supposed proper fight he wouldn't have that
>>528327986That's salmon.
>>528328297Achilles is no different, his drain is proportional to his speed
>>528328401Just ask to go slower
>>528326667What is this, an Evil Animal Berserker Getter Formation?
>>528327552I was actually wondering if Karna and Achilles were purposefuly selected with Vlad in mind because one has the Divinity check, the other has the capacity to deal with the endless stakes since just breaking causes more to create from there. Burning actually gets rid of them.
>>528327673Kind of depends cause when you see Traum, Siegfried is good at defending not just himself, but also everyone behind him and Vladโs tactics can make up for a difference in numbers. I think this is why they gave so much importance to him, he isnโt necessarily beating down who is in front of him, but if you arenโt getting to whatโs behind him the story changes you get a moving wall to adjust as you take offensive stance.
There is Hanging Gardens from Semiramis but there is the Adam that will keep growing if he isnโt offed ASAP, his from Astolfo can cost legs and loss of mobility can be deadly to Kazikly Bey. Mordredโs Instinct is actually pretty good at detecting danger and acting accordingly so the faction could avert disatvantageous combat.
Actually this is what we should have gotten man. The entire premise was this.
Remember when Jeanne exorcized the spirits of aborted fetus out of existence?
That was funny
>>528325498The human order is Chaldeas.
You're only allowed in.
>>528328868I guess that's how Kriem felt with Siegfried killing himself and ruining everything
>>528327673Ultimately, I think you can kind of reduce the main strengths of each side to
Black:
>Vlad's territory is very hard to invade without getting turned into a pin cushion, and he's no slouch in a direct fight>Dracula is a great ace in the hole as a last resort even if it means basically giving up your biggest strength>Siegfried is a brick shithouse that can stall most foes indefinitely with a competent master and outright rushes most of Red team aside from Karna and Achilles>Chiron solidifies the rest of their forces and is an important counter to Achilles specifically>given time, Avicebron can create a threat that would have likely required exactly Karna to deal with, and it would have required he give up his armor to do soRed:
>Achilles is a hard wall to most of the Black team>Karna is more than a match for the entire Black team minus Siegfried and Vlad within his territory, and he's got a good shot at those matchups too>Mordred still stomps half of Black on her own>Semiramis has her own flying fortress to match up against Vlad's territory and that is basically suicide to invade without a coordinated assaultI don't think it's a big stretch to say that the best Servants in that war are basically full-support Karna > Dracula > Vlad in his territory >= Karna >= Achilles >= Siegfried. Achilles and Siegfried are the least conditional, but Achilles has a main counter on the Black team while Siegfried is a knowledge + skill check. Karna is roughly equal to them without support, but his total operational time seems lower because, aside from his godly spear skills, all of his stuff is flashy and expensive. Vlad is generally superior to all of them at base as long as he's in his territory and Dracula either needs a unified front or an unrestricted Karna to deal with.
Semiramis + her fortress is probably comparable to Vlad in his territory as a threat, but she seems to have less direct combat ability of her own. However, she has more logistical uses.
>Bonded with all my bronze zerkers
>still haven't reached lvl 180 yet so gotta swap out a bond ce with the mashu fp one to fix everyone in
Fucking hate cost reeeeeee
>>528327726Why is Okita so smug here?
>>528325604The AI did this right?
Think we're getting another event before anni?
Not this week (Wednesday 25th), but the next one at the start of July.
Anni is on the 3rd of August after all.
>>528328868>>528329215Shit like this makes me sad because Apo isn't a game to get a remake to explore this kind of thing.
>>528329627Guda Guda probably.
>>528328868>>528329215You're forgetting Black has an actual Assassin too, Jack could have tried to kill the Masters while the other servants are fighting. Semiramis is great to have a base but Red kinda loses the stealth factor with her.
>>528329914It would redeem that shitshow of a year
>>528329537AI won when you're asking if human art is AI, kek
>>528329914This month for sure...
>>528329946Not just masters but also the servants in a critical situations. There isnโt much you can do in a beam clash to protect you from getting shanked from behind. And disengaging from battle by wounds would be really vulnerable.
Guys, if I haven't played in like 5 years, is easy to get back into the game?
>>528325903Just the way I like 'em
>>528331862Depends on where you left off. JP hates you if you're new. EN is getting there.
>>528331862>5 yearsYou missed Oberon, Koyan and Castoria? Rip.
>>528331862You can roll for summer Castoria right now and with decent support (and preferably the Black Grail ce) she'll kill most of the troublesome enemies you'll find in the main story, main interludes and events, but all the high tier blank Earth content will probably take you some tries to clear, and your class score unlocking will take a while too.
>>5283318625 years is half of this gameโs lifetime it was likeโฆ Lostbelt 6?!
Oh then you didnโt miss much
>>528332516More like rare-oggant
80% of the Grand Berserker Castorias I run across don't even have their bond CEs.
Very shameful.
>>528314868>post during american hours>expect subhuman spics to understand why the greatest hero of western mythology is a grand servantYou're fighting windmills here, anon
Okay its more of 4 years/2021 when I started to fall off from playing daily. After that I just logged in to roll every now and then.
>>528333962>Ciel>Arc>summer Castoria np2>Summer Ibuki>Summer Eresh>Vitch and CastoriaJust play the game you cowardly fool, level them, level their skills and pick appropriate supports.
>>528334425No I don't think I will
I'm up almost 500 kills I think I'm done
>>528333140Kek at least the memes are good
>>528333962The maxed servants indicate you likely stopped at some point after Traum. I donโt think Durga and Kali need chapter mats to ascend so I donโt think you were around the Ordeal Call.
You likely arenโt that far behind specially considering you rolled here and there. LB7 + the 4 Ordeal Calls. FGO had a huge drought of content.
>>528333958It's funny. Most people have no problem with Herc being grand berserker even before it happened. It was the safe, boring choice. Then you have some autists shitting up a thread explaining that they *can't* give Herc new shit if he was grand berserker and that he would never be picked because le niche (the only niche berserker have is that they're fucking berserker). Turns out the most obvious thing happens. Herc is picked. Herc gets new buffs and NPs. And some guys are STILL seething about it.
>>528334912Im thinking of just going through the story chapters I missed out on so I can farm whatever materials I would need for the grand servants. Havent really looked into them except you can make a Grand Saber and Grand Berserker now.
>>528333140Holy fucking sag
>>528335139You can make your Grands without bothering with the filler arc, you just need to clear the prologue
>>528334942It's just jetfag seething, he can't comprehend that the Arthurian #3 is completely irrelevant in greater lore and doesn't have feats or accomplishments to let him play with the big boys.
>>528334942>coward replies to himself 5 hours after the fact when he thinks people are goneGrand Berserker died 6 times to a D list Servant lol.
>>528335360Your big boys and girls died to EMIYA 6 times and can't beat fluffy and REGEND 1 vs 1. Grand Berserker in terms of powerlevel is Enkidu and Saber is something like Altera.
>>528333962Merge your fucking servants.
>>528335798>>528336005>perfectly spaced apartseething hard, melvin
>>528333962download the cheat apk and speed run the story chapters
>>528336251idk why you think crying a random name somehow erases the fact that Grand Berserker died to EMIYA and Rin lol.
>>528335332Say less, thanks!
Isnโt it a good thing if the guy got killed here and there in his record since you could use rhat as a justification on why your favorite could also be a Grand tier? Why is that a bad thing?
>>528336831Why is Castoria doing THAT to my grand berserker wife?
>>528337185Thanks for killing the meme
I haven't played in years... who is Lilith?
>>528329215>Vlad in his territory >= Karna >= AchillesNah it's probably more like
Achilles = Karna >= Vlad in his territory
Vlad just ain't keeping up with the former two. Their toolkit is way better than what Vlad has.
>>528334889It's cases like these where you need a Shielder big brother to protect your Ririsu...
No Mashus allowed tho
>>528332516Finding that many grands sensibly equipping teatime is very rare
>>528339698I saw a Castoria with the bone drop CE equipped earlier. Some people are just clueless.
>>528340390Let's see.
Make me.
>>528340619bitchboy response
>>528338897She-demon of the storms from Babylonia that got conflagratef with Christian traditions of a demon that had to sacrifice 100 children to God. The strongest Mashu hater in existence
>>528341038kek, stay btfo
So Galahad's the obvious candidate for Anni, but what are the chances it may be someone else? Other people claim Solomon, Olga or Camazotz are possible instead. How likely is it that we get two 5*?
>>528341130Galahad's too boring, they'll choose someone who'll make a splash.
>>528341130They've been picking random shit every year so who the fuck knows
>>528334942>And some guys are STILL seething about it.Yes??
>Expect consensus on opinions on the internetHerc won. Their cope is infinite, their seethe, eternal.
>>528341596Like not Galahad.
>>528341130I don't think Olga will be rollable, unless they decide to release TWO Olgas.
>>528341702You can have Olga (ayylmoa) and Space Olga.
u rike?
>>528341697Okay, but who? Solomon? Olga? Camazotz? Who else can be a fit?
>>528341130we will get Nasu himself as Grand Caster
>>528341962Summer Woman that /fgog/ Hates the Most
>>528342226I wouldn't roll.
>>528343254What's your lowest stat?
>>528343074He can probably outsell any whore if his gameplay is sufficiently broken.
What do we think of the ASMR choices this time around?
>>528345062Only Mandy I'm super interested in for the guys. The two batches prior had better choices imo but I'll wait until they come to see if they'll pander just as well.
>>528345429come out* oops
>>5283450625 shits and also City.
>>528345817>falseflag attempt>immediately gives away strategyholy kek
first time logging in for like half a year
anyways any opinions on the grand choices I'm not entirely sure about yet:
saber: yamato takeru np 2 / muramasa np1 / saitou?
archer: super orion np2 / summer saber np1
lancer: summer yu / biscionne ??? (melusine? karna? mary??? I have no idea here...
rider: np5 da vinci
caster: idk: summer wu? castoria? maybe tonelico but even she doesn't really do much damage... maybe just fo full metafag and send suicideman to his throne. maybe just miyu for memes
assassin: mhx np2 or koyan?? maybe izo or ushiwaka?
zerker: np 2 summer castoria
extra 1: summer xu? ushi gozen? mash?
extra 2: nero? summer abby for solo fun?
>>528345062I do hope they'll go all out with Melusine just to make Choco the hack mad with rage. He'll probably make another worthless artbook after that as his revenge
>>528345062Dunno. Solid choices, I guess? I wouldn't mind City ASMR what with her awful, nasally whiny voice that makes me horny
>>528347612Sex with Da Vinci
>>528317136That whore Ciel should take notes. This is way better than being naked.
>>528345062>Women get all their favorite picks (aside from Dantes and Oberon)>Men don't get any of the top tier female servantsFucking bullshit.
>>528343074>>528341320Better than your favorite and your interest doesn't matter.
Sex with the banana goblin
>>528345062Karna looks more like a woman every time Pako draws him
>>528345062boring/normiecore
>>528350251link grailed banana now
>>528323585Who is the one below and what did he do?
>>528350220Maybe not.
Maybe you're just becoming more attracted to The Karna.
>>528323585Samson, runs around being a retard until he kidnaps a literal prostitute before jobbing.
Unless it's different in the DLC, Gilgameme does fuck all because he's too busy playing happy merchant and recruiting an army of child soldiers.
>>528352204Thot status: Terminated
>>528351243El Grande Plantano
>>528340992Oh shit she got the dustloop
>>528341962Grand Assassin Cain using the body of Tohno Shiki
>>528323585still funny how everyone called how he's going to Samson.
>Broly referenceThe legendary super jew?
>>528349850If you are retard of course.
>>528353178Lmao horny clapfag.
https://x.com/Rintaro_3939/status/1936398676630651019
>Create dress in a day
That's dedication to the craft, I'll give them that.
Has anyone maxed out all of their Mystic Codes yet? I'm a little over 4 million XP away, divided across three outfits, all of which boost fucking Quick.
>>528354547A long time ago, the secret is always maxxing the event ones first because they need less XP and leave the rest for the story since those are the quests with beefier XP drops.
>>528354547I gave up on the idea years ago. Way too many shitty ones I know i'll never use to even bother. I just max the good ones I know i'll use.
>>528354547Just use whatever isn't maxed out for regular grinding and you should have everything at max without even really trying
>>528354547Yeah, I did. The blank earth quests really helped achieving that since some of them are not that useful in farming.
https://x.com/___pyn__pyn___/status/1936608752674943455
I can see beyond the time, Guda
>>528353974It's so good to finally have a big hit again.
>Take a look at the list of Evil Casters
>None of them would ever be chosen for the Grand Caster duel
It's over...
>>528359163Caster is going to be gigantic shitshow no matter what.
>>528359324Nah Illya would win
Bro?
Your Sion plot and betrayal?
>>528359163>All my grailed casters are either support or AoE (np1)Gonna have fun hitting the grand boss with wet noodles
Unless Archie suddenly becomes playable before then and he's unga bunga tier
Break-Age Gigantomachia: Shooting the Hundred Gods.
>>528359626I don't remember Hercules killing any gods.
In fact, I distinctly remember him being Hera's bitch.
>>528359531Sion would never betray (Me). She's my nakama kizuna.
>>528359531No one cares about that
>>528359850It refers to the Giants
Maybe they count as gods or divine spirits
>grand servant with no bond CE
A lot of these grands aren't loved
>>528359531It's hard to care much about a plot point they've been dragging out longer than 17% of /fgog/ has been alive for.
>>528359626>"shooting">"the hundred gods">is single target>does no shooting >just punches thingsWhat did they mean by this?
>>528360810You'll see the real love in about a week.
>>528360938It can be used with any weapon
As a Berserker he punches
It's just Nine lives again but more effective against the Gigantes
>>528361343Broken ankles.
>>528360810Even more retarded when you consider it takes no time at all to bond 10 a servant in grand duels.
>>528362150Fire Force looking motherfucker.
>>528362137>no time at allI takes time
>>528360938His fist is the gun.
>ashwatthama dumping
>king ashoka subtly mentioned out of nowhere
Is a pajeet doing all of this?
>>528360938It's supposed to be a version of Nine Lives because Nine Lives can be used with any weapon or even with barehand.
Giants inherited Sefar's anti-civilization authority, that's the reason Heracles used the weakest version of Nine Lives that used barehand hence the C rank (Nine Lives range from C~A+) sincd weapons don't work on Giants, the hands will do.
This year's summer event better be something like Summer 1, fuck OC3
I saw a melufag on the ww3 sticky he had an israel flag
The character /fgog/ loves the most.
I didn't think running out of bond grails was ever going to be my problem until recently
>>528367168I was a bond graillet before the Grand campaign was even announced.
did they say what day anniv is going to be?
>>528367425Same, sitting at over 30 servants that need one now
>>528368509I have 2 more servants I want to bond 15, maybe 3 at best. After that I guess I will b15 a couple of 1* and the best supporters for that sweet useful 25% bond bonus.
>>528368395On the anniversary I'd assume
Would you still like Lilith if she wasn't so hot?
Who are the most popular grand picks?
>>528363384>Nine Lives range from C~A+It's also ranked EX in this form, kek
My finger is twitching to grail Gilles in anticipation of Grand Caster...
20% Buster bond CE is pretty good, God knows he needs the 1000ATK. But even then, I don't think I have a Buster Foreigner to pair him up with to profit from the battery on his NP.
Avicebron might become my Grand Caster after all.
>>528363956no shit sherlock
Grand Archer is going to be Prototype Gilgamesh. Please clap
>>528359163Caster is literally going to be the easiest one. 90% of the supports are there.
>>528373902paisen?
kurohime
>>528373902Owl = Johanna not sure about second one
>>528374345my thoughts exactly
*smooch*
>>528373902That halo on the right silhouette looks pretty Indian / Buddhist
>>528373902it's a skadi on the right 100%. skadi dev is about to give (you) another quick support
Man, anyone else here have only Rider as the only master mission Class you didn't finish?
>>528376707The fact you need 200 levels of bond total for the Grand Score buff is ridiculous.
>>528376815I'm in some real trouble for some other classes. I only have 137 bond levels for Riders and 142 for Assassins.
>>528376815As if I needed another reason to only ever use Bond CEs while my MLB Gacha CEs collect dust on the shelf
>>528376707Me
I'm lacking something like 200 Rider levels for the 2500 mission
That is 2 new ssrs plus some grails, but I don't really want to actively roll for more Riders.
>>528377268The Bond levels are important ones for buffs. Better do some.
>>528377279You need the 200 Bond levels to get the 10% Starting charge benefit from the Grand Score. Also the Buff removal resistance I think.
>>528377670The levels don't do much. The things buffing the Grand Score are Bond Levels and Class Score.
>>528378286I'm already done with all the bond levels quests, the only thing blocking my scores are dust and torches
>>528369204People like her because she's a Trashu hater
>>528373902Johanna and scahag or skadoo
>>528373902Zenobia on the right. The length of the hair, the crown and the halo (similar structure appears on her NP form) give away.
>>528321297Because Berserker as a class is just suppose to boost a servant stats in exchange for sanity or for Herk's case his sanity and his NPs bar Godhand in a HGW. Obviously FGO changed it so they're now mostly sane. Anybody can be a Berserker now.
Now people can just say why can't I just summon a Berserker *insert Top Tier servant here* and he can be Grand with higher stats since the world can just give him his other classes' weapons.
This unironically justifies Jetkek's ramblings on how his Berserker form is better than his sane Saber form now. It's actually funny.
>>528379037Added to my banana collection
>>528373902What are these? Alters? Outfits?
>>528381535Oh, you're right! Yeah, that does look a lot like Zenobia.
>>528382619>What are these? Alters? Outfits?Outfits for the CEs that are used to promote the FGO anniversary happening on the 2nd of August.
>>528385429Cute pope and Sexo as always
uhmhnfasfedurefhysaqaaaaaaaaaaa
>>528385429Why is Zenobia not naked?
Cummer is so good I don't even pick supports with black grail this time, double bond CE baby.
>>528359324The real shitshow is going to be Assassin unless the enemy is a female.
[Heart warming news]
Fate fans will finally be able to see Saber in 3d for the first time.
>>528386239Arcadebros...
Extellabros...
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>>528376707Same but also an assassin one or two if you count the skill level ones.
>>528386010Assassin is not that dire.
It got some good supports (Koyanskaya, Osakabehime and Wu as budget). Worse than Caster's options, though.
But it also has some competent gorillas : Hassan, Kama and Li. The former two especially shine during challenge runs.
If the target is a woman, as you said, then we add Jack and Carmilla.
But even outside of that it's not THAT catastrophic. A shame Homete is AOE, she's got competent normal cards, though.
That said, Caster sounds miserable. You've got... Sanzang, Illya, and Shuten Caster as offensive options?
>>528386239Sprite-kun handiwork is way more soulful than a reused base model. Besides
>>528386558 and also Unlimited Codes
>>528359324You have Merlin and Castoria to buff your Casters, it's gonna be the easiest one.
>>528386687>KoyanskayaIs there even any ST buster NP assassin?
Skadi as well if you're rolling with Okuni
>>528385802Bro you canโt go naked Over the Same Sky
>>528387192Carmilla, Sanson and King Hassan
>>528387192Bro your Grand Assassin?
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>>528387357I don't have Morgan or Cummer so I just 1turn with this.
>>528387385>>528387410>>528387503I had forgotten the hag had a buster NP and I don't roll for males.
>>528385802Her dress is still see through on her legs to keep with the tradition at least
>>528387683Mine hita pretty hard but she is a level 100 NP3. If Grand Assassin is female she is done for. And if itโs male her NP gain is so good she will be firing NPs constantly
>>528376707I'm at 187 for archer, 198 for assassin and 183 for Berz'. But to be frank, that 183 gives like >9.50% so it doesn't matter since it always rounds up.
Have you picked your two CEs yet fgog?
I have resorted to using quartz to refill stamina
>Grand Servant
>No Bond CE equipped
Do FOTMfags really?
>>528389181Lilith was released like last month
Why do we even care about Herk being the fight when they've already said it has nothing to do with the lore?
>>528389960They said it's Grands that won't appear in the story
>>528389181You can pick 50% battery if you don't like the CE, right?
That's huge for some servants. Like Koyo, who doesn't have a battery at all, and a mediocre Bond ce
>>528389960Because otherwise we'd have nothing to argue about.
>>528389960>add the most interesting development in years>it's non-canonbleh...
>>528390346Yes, you either choose the Bond CE effect or a 50% battery
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GUYS
GUIYS
GUUUUYYYYSSSSS
JUST WOKE UP!!!! AND DID 5 RUNS OF THE HERKEK AND MY LILITH CHARMED HIM 4/5 RUNS
DID THEY LOWERED HIS ANTI CHARM BUFF? ARE WE LILITHFAGS BACK???
>>528390462>can't talk become can't talk v1.0Sure
>herakles ichor doesn't have special lines for anyone
blatant female favoritism
I canโt get over that one line from her Cosmos profile bros. It just eats me up.
>>528390024No they said it's purely for gameplay has no effect in the actual lore
>>528390664I did notice it was somewhat more consistent but like 1 in 4 times though
>>528391026Summer Sitonai Berserker confirmed!
>nip with Granded Duryo accepted my request
We're so back
>>528390664Okay never mind this, it failed every charm after that lmao.
I farmed even more and got golde afterwards
It was another Cat
Fuck
It wouldnโt hurt as much if it was someone like Fran or Beowulf. I donโt have anything against Cat but I see her more as a Caster
>>528391624Wasn't this exact picture posted yesterday?
>>528389960Cause Musashihaters will always use different standard when talking about any other servants.
Musashi is the Grand duel? Doesn't count, 2-kun said it's gameplay only.
Herk is the Grand duel? BASAKA TSUYOI ICHIBAN DAKARA, SASUGA HERK
>>528391748Yes I missed the shot of the next 11th roll with another Tamacat so I reposted that one. I keep rolling Cats in Lilithโs gacha. Either I roll a Cat or someone from another class completely unrelated.
>>528391079>was browsing through boomerbook for local news a week ago>see this shitBBspic....
>>528392760>he still using kikebook
>>528393121You made me realize I've been using it for 14 years now.
I just used it to read local news and stuff. Can't trust the mainstream media after all.
>>528393421you can't trust facebook either you dildo
>>528392316Not musashi haters just retarded powerlevelfag in this place become autist about old character getting recognition so they create some narrative to discuss about and they act like a child.
>>528389301And mine went from bond 5 to 10 in a day.
No excuse.
Powerlevel posting is at the heart and soul of /fgog/ and it's why when there's none of it the quality of the thread goes down the shitter with only mentally ill ironic weebs who only care about "muh waifuS" posting, versus the enjoyable threads of the past few days.
>>528394514nta but i finished grinding basaka grand and only got ~250k bond points total by doing that. It wasnt enough to level bond from 9 to 10
>>528385429>>528385776Wow she's wearing clothes
>>528391129>bro they're giving them new skills, abilities, stats, NP's and designs>nonono not canon at all, though>even though 2-tard mentions that they're just not going to appear in the storyThis place is filled with retards. These are the Grands that they couldn't fit in Part 2. Look at Herc's kit, it's tailor made to fight Camazotz.
>>528395849>Musashi was chosen in the Grand Saber duel solely for the sake of game mechanics, this has no connection to the actual settings or lore surrounding the Grand Saber role
>>528394853>Muh soulAs opposed to being a retard. You guys can go back to the cave.
>>528395868As if those could stop me.
>>528395986they did not say anything about herc
there is still hope
>>528395986>no bro, it's not canon>even though Marymadose is canon, Reincarnation Pandora is canon, Nine Lives is canon, Herc's biggest accomplishment in Fate being in the Gigantomachia is canon>all of those are canon>but it's not canon at all kek
Iโve begun noticing but is there something wrong with these hours in particular? Yesterday morning also there was a lot of shitposting regarding Grands and Herk, then afternoon people actually had a proper discussion of the Apocrypha servants, then night there was again shitposting against Grands and Herk
>>528395849>RetardTalk about yourself with your headcanon, faggot.
>>528396292Cope maybe but not hope.
>>528396398Heracles Ichor is probably accurate to what a God Heracles would look like but canonically he isn't Grand Berserker. It's just fanservice, they showed a Herc that we'll probably never see in the actual story.
>>528396398Let's see what his role in story fgo? It's nothing you absolute retard.
The Grand Lancer pick will absolutely be female because picking a male would just let everyone one-shot it with Summer Yu.
>Saber and Berserker got grands
>it shuts down Lancelot's two best chances at not being irrelevant
No wonder he's seething
>>528396554If you say i'm the shitposter that's yours but i just want to say those grand quest it had nothing to do with the story nothing amount of cope can change that.
Starting to reconsider my friendship with NP1 Granders.
>>528396716You thing i'm jetfag sorry wrong person but well both of you have same characteristic a delusional.
>used a morgan np3 support
>600k damage
holy wet noddles
>>528396716Idk, man. Since Berserker Herk gets everything from his other classes, it makes the Jetsposting all valid.
The old Jetkek backtracking and saying Berserker>Saber Lancelot after getting btfo-ed by mats is kinda true now.
>>528397250aoe berserkers are basically supports there. only good for giving out some buffs to STchads
>>528397232>no MLB BG or Rising Mud RainHow?
Whatโs the best way to benefit from the Grand Graph now? In the Saber duels it was doing a single servantโs chain and leaving the NP for last cause theyโd get cumulative buffs but I see Berserkers donโt have this benefit
>>528397479Only shitters need damaging CEs. Max bond is optimal.
>>528397479it doesn't really matter she would still 1 shot in a lot of comps. own comp i run with this is my arcas, morgan, double bond support morgan with arctic and she would 1 turn with morgan NP > castoria NP. Same thing if I borrow another double bond support castoria.
>>528397596QAB chain gives Berserker Grands def down on attack. There's also a NP boost for QQA iirc.
>Lilith keeps ignoring me after over 300+ quartz
>toss quartz to Summer Castoria in spite
Hahaha....
>>528398470she's better anyway
>>528399369She does like 600k at NP1 with no MLB BG or Grand boosts to Herk. Jesus.
>>528397343Not really, it actually proves that Herc is a threat with his skill sealed, whereas Lancelot needs EAM as a crutch to not be useless. It's a pretty scathing indictment of how much he relies on fairies babying him (and the rest of the RT does too)
>>528329215>minus SiegfriedLet's be honest, that is extremely generous to Siegfried.
>>528329946>>528329215>>528327673The problem with Jack is that she isn't an asset for Black, she's a liability. Specifically her master isn't actually part of Black, she's some random whore that Jack chose as her master. So unless you're reinventing the terms of the engagement so that Black has somehow convinced Random Whore to fight with them, Jack isn't doing shit. Oh, and while this is purely down to out of character knowledge any optimal strategy for Black should involve Atalanta NEVER learning about Jack's existence. Because as any scholar can tell you, Atalanta seeing Jack either die or need to killed is enough to make her chimp out about THE CHILDREN!!! and turn into a second liability for Black.
>>528399853I mean the point is we are imagining what ifs here.
>>528400046All I'm saying is we seriously need to establish how "full power" is actually defined has, because one could argue that if it was operating at full power, Amakusa wouldn't be in charge of Red since presumably the Red Masters would be awake and alert. Unless we're assuming Black has somehow grown the balls to paralyse THEIR Masters so both teams are operating purely in terms of their Servants conducting the war. Are we still assuming Sieg survives long enough to be plot relevant? And whose side are we assuming Jeanne joins, if any?
I'm just saying there are a lot of variables at play here in Apocrypha's conflict apart from who is the strongest player.
>>528328297The Black faction literally has their whole Servants hook up to the homunculi.
Karna was beating up Fame boosted Vlad and Siegfried first without grail mana at that point.
>>528329215I don't know why Fame Boosted Vlad is wanked so hard. He could never beat Karna or Achilles.
Did we get more compasses? I want to try out a few setups but don't want to waste them if they're so limited in quantity.
>>528399621Berserker Herc's threat is because of his High stats and Godhand. No sword/bow/axe skills, just pure brute strength and regenerating lives and immunity. Grand Berserker gave him back everything.
So if somehow Berserker Lancelot becomes Grand(kek), would anything he touched become an NP? Does he not need to seal his NPs to draw Arondight?
I guess Herc is better since he has more weapons but Lancelot can turn anything into a weapon.
>>528399613This is just her own buffs, no Grand boost, no MLB BG. At NP1.
>>528400982>but Lancelot can turn anything into a weaponYeah, low-tier weapons by Servant standards. Never forget that Jets ultimately died to Saiba without Saiba needing to use the Excaliblast.
>>528397597>he doesn't have applesOnly shitters that couldn't save apples want to take 10 years to bond level. 1 shotting raids and using hundreds of apples is the most optimal. There's only a couple of days left for free passes.
>>528400562The homunculi were using the same principle of Chaldea (or rather Chaldea was using the same mechanics as them). The mana goes to the master first then to the servant. They still had all the limitations that came with that which was why Caules got recoil from Fran and the Musik were explicitly a fallen family that would need 3 generations of good successors to recover.
Amakusa literally had to combo his NP, Shakespeare and the Hanging Gardens to make a direct connection of the servants to the grail and circumvent any limitations caused by the masters.
Also, Karna wasnโt close to beating up any of them. He was evenly matched with Siegfried for hours and most he scored was a single blow on Vlad. If you wanna argue he could eventually win, sure, a decisive blow could do that. But at the same time with his poor mana efficiency fighting too long could lead to a disadvantage.
>>528400526I think the what if was if the Masters actually fought each other, so no Amakuso or Sieg and Jack and Mordred stay with their teams.
>>528401497? a maxed out grand arcas doesn't need BG at all to kill the level100*** in 1 turn
>>528401464True but what if the Grand Berserker Container changed that?
>Summer Castoria's Bunny ascension doesn't give her Animal Characteristics trait
What? BB and City got it, why not her? Bunyan got it too.
>>528400982>but Lancelot can turn anything into a weapon.My brother in christ, what do you think Nine Lives does? And in a much more versatile and powerful way than KoO+EAM
>>528381667Sex with big snake
>>528402474I mean, the Grand Saber container hasn't meaningfully changed Musashi.
>>528402703>CityAn Elemental, closer to the wilderness than humanity
>BunyanGenerated from American folklore, there's probably some shit from Babe the ox or something in her Saint Graph
>BBliteral subhuman monstrosity
>>528403149People think that Heracles getting access to his shit after 20 years means everyone would get a similar treatment if they became a Grand, which categorically isn't true
>>528403123that's a lizard
>>528390884It's kinda fucked since Herk has always been able to speak as Berserker, but Illya specifically prevented him from doing so. They created the meme of roar-only Berserkers as a stupid nostalgiabait reference because it meant they didn't have to write a real character.
>>528402845>Nine LivesWhich he didn't have access to as a Berserker, retard. Grand Berserker container gave it to Herc obviously.
>>528403472If I could just roar all my problems away instead of talking like Herc, I would too bros...
Give me Zenobia ass please. I will creampie her until the entire floor is made of cum.
>>528403149Musashi's power up is hard to convey since she just cuts things. Herc is different.
>>528403289Grand Container literally powers up the Servant. Why would it not make the servant OP?
>>528403262What? They just put on a bunny outfit and gain the Animal Characteristics trait. You know, just like Ryougi Shiki?
>>528400562It's less that he can decisively beat up Karna or Achilles (though stakes from every direction could be a problem for Achilles) but rather that he covers most of the war front on his own. Having so much control over the battlefield from a distance is a valuable tool to have in a war that isn't just a series of 1v1 duels. He might lose in a direct engagement against Karna or Achilles, but he doesn't need to outright win it because it's a team fight. That's what his allies are for. Siegfried is the greatest direct combatant on the Black team and he can wreck shit so long as he doesn't have to worry about his back. Vlad can cover for him nicely while he engages a heavy hitter.
Vlad can at least stall against either Karna or Achilles as well. Setting aside Dracula, Vlad was able to temporarily immobilize Karna and force him to use his prana burst to break out, which is a big drain for Karna. Achilles could get his heel pierced by a random stake if he tries to mad dash toward his opponent, so he's forced to stay in his chariot (which isn't a huge downside granted).
>>528403832There's making them OP and then there's just breaking down all meaningful divisions between classes. Berserkers are pretty much always summoned with weapons. Herk specifically doesn't come with one normally, which is why the Einzberns furnished him with the axesword made from a chunk of his temple. Being summoned as Grand literally just gave him access to treatment most other Berserkers get by default.
Lancelot already gets a weapon he normally has as Saber, but with a limitation.
Beowulf just gets his swords and can use them perfectly fine.
Lu Bu gets God Force and can use two of its six forms without issue as Berserker.
So on and so forth. Hercules is just being caught up to where other Berserkers are in terms of armaments. He doesn't seem to be able to use them with full proficiency anyway.
>>528403569We literally get him to use it in Grand Order as a quirk of his summoning.
>>528404608Herc was already a top Berserker due to pure stats and Godhand. Giving him his other classes' equipment and Nine Lives makes him OP.
>>528404858It's a gameplay mechanic in Grand Order.
AYO NIGGAS,
PUT DOUBLE BOND CE'S ON YOUR GRAND ZERKERS, I CAN FINALLY CONSISTENLY 1 SHOT THIS BASAKA NIGGA FR FR
>>528403569He is able to use in FGO but they didnโt specify if itโs because the ME is lessened or something.
An anon said threads ago that Nasu explained in an interview Berserker Herk can actually tap into Nine Lives in a situation of emergency (likely the Turas Realta depiction he used with his back to the Ark Convenant was a reference to that)
>>528404187Agreed here. Most situations with multiple people the spacing itself can be an issue. Kazikli Beyโs reach circumvents this problem with synergizes well with Siegfried as a walking shield.
Do you think devs will remember that Jack have worse than bronze tier servant's skills when assassin grand comes?
The winners of the Grand Duels so far
>Iori
>Cummer
Who will win Lancer? You might think Melu is the obvious pick but EGAO gets three 20% CEs which could put her on top.
I think this year's anniverssary, like any year's anniverssary, I'm looking forward most to Rank-Ups and interludes.
Whatever 10 Multis they might give us will desintegrate into One copy of Martha [Rider] anyway.
SQ is fleeting. Rank Ups are forever.
>>528399621>and the rest of the RT does tooThat's only Gawain, Artoria and Lancelot, no?
Tristan is pure skill. Galahad is an angel. Percival is mini Galahad. Mordred is a savage barbarian. Kay is a regular dude, as is Bedivere. And Gareth/Gaheris idk.
>>528410262I do wish we could see Tristan in other classes
>>528409821>30% anti lancer appendMeluGODS eating good as usual
>>528349881It's okay to like bland servants bro
Unfortunately for you the interest of others is the ONLY thing that matters.
>>528409821Iori is good because he's a free NP5 and his kit is so self-sufficient it's not even funny.
Cummer is good because Chaotic Divine niche.
I don't see Melu being MVP. She has no niche unless there's multiple enemies or something.
>>528411484Well, not your interest, though. Everyone in JP seems fine with Galahad being the obvious anni choice. It'll actually be refreshing to have a powerlevel/lore Servant who isn't mega shilled as the Anni this time.
>>528409821>the best lancer has for NP meter are bradamante and an already extremely conditional quixoteEveryone loses
>>528410942Unfortunately someone needed to fill in the archer niche at the Round Table, even though Tristan wasn't really a bow enthusiast in mythology at all. He has now been typecast forever by Nasu as the bow guy.
>>528409821Depends on the target enemy.
If it's Divine then Scat should be an ez MVP slot.
Still waiting for Charles Babbage (Avenger)
Or for his steam-powered suit to break open and reveal that he's been a loli all this time
>>528409821>ST NP>everyone has NP5>anti MalePaisen has potential
>>528409304Do you think Takeuchi will undo the regression he's done as an artist over the past 15 years by the anniversary stream?
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>>528417615ha ha eeeew haha ha why would you draw thaaaaat ewww
ha ha yuckyyyy
>>528406093>in FateGOThere you go. He needed an NP in game so they gave him Nine Lives despite him not being able to use it as a Berserker.
>in a situation of emergencyAnd fighting Gil and saving Illya isn't?
Can someone post their Grand Morgan? Seeing a lot of Castoriazerker and Lilith but no Morgan.
Since when does the Bans page not show the related post? Let me guess, the great shitshow?
Also Cummer makes this fight really fast but I don't have the supports to get more Arts cards for her, sad. Fate Grand Order.
Can someone give me a rundown on which Berserkers are the getting Grand'd the most? At least from what you see.
>>528413761I think it'll be Scat or Clae specifically to avoid that.
>>528420669Saw lots of Kiyos.
What did she mean by this?
>>528420669It seems that Cummer gets grailed cause she is top tier gameplay.
>>528420669It's all Cummer and Morgan on my FL with some Ririsus and Kiyos here and there..
>>528420669My friendlist is full of Liliths. Castoria being the 2nd most popular and Morgan is at 3rd. Arjuna Alter is probably 4th? I have like friends with rarer ones like Rikyu/Koma, Chacha, Ibaraki, Kiyo, Duryo, Spartacus(rarest).
Surprisingly little amounts of Musashi, Ibuki and Louhi. Though I guessing that some people are farming with their single target zerkers before switching over whenever the free storm pod period ends.
>>528416130Seems like you're the only one here crying about Galahad being anni Servant.
>>528421437Truly a mystery for the ages.
>>528420669Who cares who others Grand?
Just looking up what Herc did in the Gigantomachy.
>Another probable reference to the Gigantomachy in the Catalogue has Zeus produce Heracles to be "a protector against ruin for gods and men"
>According to Apollodorus, Alcyoneus and Porphyrion were the two strongest Giants. Heracles shot Alcyoneus, who fell to the ground but then revived, for Alcyoneus was immortal within his native land. So Heracles, on Athena's advice, dragged him beyond the borders of that land, where Alcyoneus then died
>Zeus caused Porphyrion to become enamoured of Hera, whom Porphyrion then tried to rape, but Zeus struck Porphyrion with his thunderbolt and Heracles killed him with an arrow.
>Ephialtes was blinded by an arrow from Apollo in his left eye, and another arrow from Heracles in his right.
>The rest of the giants were "destroyed" by thunderbolts thrown by Zeus, with each Giant being shot with arrows by Heracles (as the prophecy seemingly required).
>>528423060>alright time to get this giant to try and rape my wife so my son can go kill himZeus...?
>>528418175>in FGOdoesn't specify gameplay. He literally does this in Turas Realta
>And fighting Gil and saving Illya Nasu literally said if Herc wasn't blackened, he could have returned with Nine Lives against Shirou.
>>528423251works every time
>>528422937Projecting a bit too hard there buddy
>>528421437taking a shower?
>>528423306Turas Realta is a FGO adaption......
Post the interview.
>>528403614>reproduciton is prohibitedFuck you faggot i'm going to reproduce with this retarded Cat no matter what you say.
>>528424210>Turas Realta is a FGO adaption......Where Herc uses Nine Lives in-story.....
>Post the interview.>>Nasu: please consider that it's precisely on account that it's a berserker who was because of blackening deprived both of his rationality and combat experiences (instinct) that this what was once as his sword technique was able to permeate. if it were normal berserker, there even exists that possibility that he would if faced with the same sword technique instinctively counter and return all nine strikes. scary, isn't it?
Thanks for putting up all those big strong support cummers for me to "use". I'll be sure to return them to you once i've had my fill and decide i'm done with them.
>>528422024>>528422112It seems that Castoria Summer is the most grailed for gameplay reason in terms of ST. Morgan may fall behind her because she is AoE. Regardless, I am convinced that both Avalon le Faes are grailed for love and gameplay come second.
>>528405513>Giving him his other classes' equipment and Nine Lives makes him OPThat's the point. He's THE hero. That would just him getting equal treatment to other Berserkers. You don't see me complaining about Lancelot having Knight of Owner or For Someone's Glory in addition to Arondight.
>>528424961sounds like a fallacies translation
>>528425385Sorry about the pity pass, that's a failing grade.
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Who did you choose?
>>528426024...No, you idiot. I said that sounds like a translation from a user named fallacies, who typically translates things robotically, archaically, and in a way no normal person would speak in. I was actually agreeing with you
>>528427749Then you should have done a better job. Fucking shameless.
>>528427469>Did not sing Ievan Polkka to meRaikou
Lilith
Pent
Nightingale
Cat
Morgan
Kriem
>Sang Ievan Polkka to meLouhi
Is Duryodhana really the most effective support for Lilith in the raids? Wouldn't a pair of Louhi suffice too?
>>528428030...are you actually retarded? is this place filled with unironic schizos?
>>528428040Mario & Louhigi
>>528427469Ririsu of course
>>528424961Concession accepted.
>>528428330I havent tested double Louhi but I'm pretty sure landing the charm gives you more damage than their double buff.
>>528341130>CamazotzThis isn't happening until next year at the soonest. The dancing card is booked until the story ends. It'll be probably monkey pawed as Space Camazotz because he seriously is stupid.
Olga can appear as a freebie.
>>528428330Don't know how Louhi's buffs would measure but you need Duryo for if you want to use Lilith's Charm.
>>528403262>An Elemental, closer to the wilderness than humanitywhich are weaker than a rays who ARE pieces of the planet's soul and alter egoes, like castoria.
>>528428948Any idea if Duryo suffices at 9/9/9?
Do you think there's a lore reason for Camazotz not to be playable? I just couldn't help but notice they have in common with Goetia the themes of: king of humanity, actually did destroy humanity (you could retcon Goetia's but point stands), fixated with the past symbolically, and immortality. Maybe his idea is that they have to accept their ends and deaths to be defeated. That's why he is avoiding Camazotz as playable (Servant Universe Bullshit possibility aside).
>>528430085That doesn't explain how is Tiamat playable when the point is that she should let go her children and never meet them again. It's Nasu making excuses.
>>528429862You only need his third skill but you want it at lvl 10 since it gives more debuff res. If you're using a single Duryo it's like a 50/50 chance of landing the charm tho
>>528429862That should work. Third skill is the only one that's really important.
>>528424602It's based on the fucking Game. Of course it's using the game mechanics.
I meant the source of that interview. Anyone can just copy paste random quotes and pass it off as real.
>>528425105Equal treatment? He's already better than Jets and probably 95% of Berserkers without the added equipment lmao
>>528430349>>528430512Ty, I can field a lore for his third if I need to
Here you go Father, one FP.
Lilith is a failed NTR servant. She's a gal who tried to NTR Mashu's senpai and her big brother. That automatically makes her subhuman because she is an NTR enjoyer.
>>528430605And he should be. He's literally the most famous hero in the world and he still gets crap treatment. Getting the same basic treatment in terms of equipment for ascending to Grand status is totally fair.
>>528430883only ONE!?
you WHORE
*SMACK*
>>528428874If the last OIga quest is before Anni I would almost bet on them giving an Olga freebie on Anni alongside the Anni Servant (probably Galahad).
>>528392760>juan gonzalezgeneric latin name
it's like john smith
>>528430085>Is there a lore reasonThe problem is there's nothing but a lore reason
If it was just about who was popular he would have been out ages ago
But Nasu is a huge autismfag, who can't approve of servants being released if there isn't a lore justification for why. He says he can't release Camozotz because "His story is already over" for now. Unless he can think of a reason for why, he can't release him.
>>528430883I rather... you know...
bros my cat is evil
like really evil
what do I do about it
>>528432618Why does she look naked
>went from bond 5 to 10 in a day
Now what? I kind of don't want to use a bond grail but she has the strongest quick buff of all berserkers
>>528432741go to the pixiv link to know
>>528427469lilith
but I chqose her before it was cool
>>528420669memes
taking into account that they can only be used in certain quests
so when are we getting grand duel lancer
>>528402703she's a pretender
Why the fuck would they make such a great design and not make her playable?
>>528432384I prefer this bodypart instead.
>>528434269End of July probably
>>528434604end of july is preanni campaign
>>528430085Nasu is "avoiding Camazotz being playable" because he doesn't care about him and would rather use the resources to further push Tez and his other favorite children instead.
Same basic story as Agravain, Zeus, Beni Alter, and the rest.
>>528376707190 archer levels missing here.
>>528431998There's almost no lore reason for Servants getting release. What lore reason was there for Metatron to be released? When they took her out per lore three weeks later. There's almost never a lore justification, like why is it justified to summon Oberon per lore?
>>528430605>Of course it's using the game mechanics.The game itself doesn't use game mechanics within its story. FGO game doesn't have Karna with Kavacha but he most definitely has it IN story. Literally a plot point of LB4. Heracles doesn't have casual access to NL in Turas Realta either. It was when he was backed into a corner and his sanity was partially restored.
>interviewSpring Song interview.
>>528434928that's a huge egg
I hope it didn't hurt her
>>528434928The twist is that the "egg" is actually a pebble and you three have been accidentally hit by Edison's shrink ray (he was trying to create an ass expansion beam)
>>528434735There are tons of Servants Nasu does not care for who are released.
It's not about Nasu's personal likes, dislikes or even lore reasons. What is released or not depends almost entirely on how "urgent" a thing is to release in order to make money.
>>528435104>Just trust me bro
>>528435334(un)wise spender
>>528435671ironic, since the excuse for Heracles having NL is
>totally fgo gameplay bro. they just needed to have it there for reasons. trust!
>>528434269It's one trial at the end of each month
>>528435341>There are tons of Servants Nasu does not care for who are released.Who in turn have a different writer or opportunity backing them instead. Much like Tiamat, as mentioned earlier, getting reused as a novelty for Arcade and only coming back specifically through an Arcade event about Nero from a guest writer.
Camazotz currently lacks this as nobody else is willing or able to adopt him, to the point that Minase basically just made his own diet Camazotz a few months ago.
>>528436684>Grand Avenger lines up with the end of FGO2 storyline>Where we go back to Fuyuki, Singularity F once again>Where we fight Beast Angra Manyu>Grand/Beast Avenger Angra
>>528436684Was there any elaboration on Extra's ???
>>528436684>>528437448I have SO many Extra I servants I would love to grand.
Literally zero Extra II servants.
>>528436684>had to wait a lot to Grand TonelicoFuck
>>528435334Bro? Your rainbow apples? You can buy them too
>>528437678Grand Scores are tied to Class Scores.
Look at the Extra Class scores and the path to Extra Grands becomes clearโฆ
>>528436684>extra classes aren't divided per classSo say for extra 2, you have to choose either an Alter Ego or a Foreigner to grand? Lame.
>>528439128We literally donโt know.
>>528439128>you have to choose either an Alter Ego or a Foreigner to grand?that's the plan
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grand rider habenyan
what does she ride?
my cock
>>528440642>Rider of Black
>>528435737that's what apples are for
>>528440642she can handle a small dick
>>528312541They released the Grand years ago
>>528440860a 14yo grand lancer....
>>528312541>Grand Illya with double Merlinezpz
https://x.com/yungmanisntdown/status/1936865865175327084
>>528442634Gareth's tits aren't that big
>>528435104It's still based on FGO....
>spring song>post FGOYup, retcon. It makes Herk look even worse since he didn't use Nine Lives to save Illya lmao
>>528435821Because it's logical and realistic? FGO wasn't suppose to survive past Year 2. Herk was a year one servant and they needed an NP for him. What, they gonna give him Godhand as his NP? Can't give him 12 guts since that's broken, so let's just bend the rules and give him Nine Lives since the game's gonna end in 2 years anyway.
>>528444918>Can't give him 12 gutsthey give him 3 then.
issue resolved
unless you're saying every NP has to be accurate 100% down to the effect. lmfao
>>528440860...She'd honestly be my 2nd pick for Grand Lancer. Too bad Melusine exists.
>>528402703Kinda like how we were talking about the overlap between Animal Characteristic and Dragon the other day, the overlap between Animal and Bunny makes no goddamn sense. If Bunny Scat counts as Animal Characteristic than all of them should. If Ruler Titoria only counts as a bunny in her ascensions with visible bunny ears, why does Koyan of Light count in her first ascension where she doesn't have them?
>>528436684The lancer one is going to be hell. There isn't a single good support.
>>528445092too mainstream
>>528445276scathach's quick up is not targetable?
>>528445276Doesn't Brad and Parvati have a targetted charge
Liz can buff any girlies
>>528445457yep
on biscione will be fine
Why choose one when you can have three?
How did Erice's breasts get so plump?
You know, it's kind of a shit generic "fix" to the Bond CE issue, but they could go and give "offensive" NP Servants a flat NP damage buff, say 30%, along with whatever flavor stuff it originally had, a 50% crit up for offensive crit Servants, and something nice for the support Servants. Stars per turn, buff success up, NP per turn, defense up for the frontline, something that's clearly not as easily defined as the other two.
Mostly saying this cause they really like 30% NP damage bond CEs lately.
Now that it's confirmed that the Grand Quest will be against a single enemy, will your choice change?
choose your finisher
water cat, fire ghost, or poison dragon
dob is a looping goddess but no one else grailed her so they don't know. her arts crits regain whole meters it's ridiculous.
finally will be able to use the stars to switch between them
>>528446202she was already a st to begin with
I wonder how /fgog/ would react if Romulus ends up being grand lancer next month
>>528445552Parvati's targeted charge drains her own NP gauge so I wouldn't use her. Summer Paisen has a targetable NP charge too, I'd rather use her.
grand lancer will be fionn
I'll be grand lancer
My lance? My penis.
>>528447268>Divine>Maleez
>>528446202If anything, it should serve as a base to make Lasengle buff certain AoE servants
Nine Lives rank up that adds extra damage vs "Demonic" and "Serpent" when
>>528445706One buttslut is enough for my cock
>>528436684>have to wait another 3 months before I can grand Shuten>and another one before granding Gil
grand lancer will be karna
>>528447925He is a strong candidate but have you considered Bhima with his NP armor continuously activated?
>>528447257Right, Paisen also has crit up on her.
>>528447083I hope they don't repeat Grands at the very least, except maybe KH since he fits so well.
>>528442634So they had to share a bed and Gareth is asleep, oblivious to what Guda and Rabu are doing?
>>528446202I'm not grailing servants I don't like or hurriedly grinding to bond 10 for meta, no
I'm already milking this rotation out for all the qp and exp it's worth anyway
>>528445805I kept sucking on them.
>>528446202Nope, I will use who I like regardless