Saturday Night Edition

Previously on Copeg : >>528164339

>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063

Darktide:
Arbites Class Coming June 23
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/arbites-class-coming-june-23/108085
Introducing: The Cyber-Mastiff - Dev Blog
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-the-cyber-mastiff-dev-blog/108442
Behind The Arbitrators - BTS Dev Blog
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/behind-the-arbitrators-bts-dev-blog/108667
Dev Blog: The Voices of the Lex
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-the-voices-of-the-lex/108785
Extended Arbites Gameplay
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/extended-arbites-gameplay/108853
Arbites Talent tree
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825
June Update: Early Balance Look
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/june-update-early-balance-look/108795
Hotfix #68 (1.7.6) - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-68-1-7-6-patch-notes/108282/1

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Firebreak - Jun 17th https://www.playfirebreak.com/
Wildgate - Jun 23 or something
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

post yfw a THIRD ogryn joins the strike team

>>528312032
oyasumi

>>528312032
Team of 4 ogryns is great.

>the most notable part of arbites is the DOG
>I think what sets good arbites apart will be how they manage the DOG
>sure, arbites is just a mix of zealot, veteran, ogryn, and psyker, but what sets him apart is the DOG
do they know? I feel like they don't know

>>528312432
The 10% attack speed are fucking massive and recharging smigger nades sounds fucking awesome, but it's kind of hard to judge just how good the dog is without being able to do some science on it. It might be worth doing a couple auric runs doing nothing but wrangling the dog and then checking the scoreboard to see how much offensive potential it has on its own, then doing that again and letting the AI do its own thing. It definitely has some interesting quirks about it, so I'm not willing to dismiss it quite yet.
But lone wolf looks very strong.

>>528312432
you know removing one of the most unique parts about a class to minmax metanigger doesnt look like the play to me

two
more
sleeps

>>528313001
should've taken hrt and gotten into the playtest to tell fatshark not to make the node ridiculously strong then

>>528312831
I know it's obvious but I think the best way to use the dog for arbites is gonna be using it to interrupt elites, specials and gunners.
Say like you're about to get attacked by a trapper but there is a shotgunner near which is aiming to shoot you.
You double click on the trapper and sic the hound on it, while you pull out your gun and dome the shotgunner.

Killing floor 3 NEEDS TO BE GOOD, IT'S THE ONLY THING I HAVE LEFT IN MY LIFE

>>528312337
>Power Fist
Vet
>Needle rifle, webber
Ganger/Hive Scum

>>528313218
I'm curious how good the AI is about, specifically, jumping ranged units on its own when you take the node. Having the dog automatically take care of gunners strafing around corners like the cowardly little shits they are, while I'm busy dodging 4 mutants and trying to res the floor-huffing psyker seems useful.

>>528313530
>>Power Fist
>Vet
I'm getting really tired of this meme of veteran players saying really obvious zealot weapons will go to veteran instead

>>528312432
I think it'd be more fair if the dog specific nodes next Lone Wolf gave some more benefits too besides just being "do +25% dmg against elites + specials" and "do +50% against all ranged enemies".
Like Unleashed Brutality could have a benefit that is
>on Cyber-Mastiff getting an Elite or Specialist kill, gain X% attack speed for Y seconds"

You get the idea. Then I think they'd be more in-line with Lone Wolf. Because currently LW just seems extremely strong and I have a feeling that 90% people are gonna run just for the fact that it gives you demo stockpile on arbites.

>>528313530
>Power fist
Vet
>Bigger power fist
Ogryn

>>528313861
Powerfists are for punching tanks, the fuck a religious murder hobo obsessed with burning and bleeding mutants and heretics needs it for?

>>528313872
Depends on just how amazingly useful smigger frisbee is. Feels like you can just kind of save them for any elite blob and then instantly neuter it the second one shows up.

I plan to give the dog his chance to shine as I'm leveling space cop. By the way, this node applies the full blown electric stun effect and all the DoT that implies. The bleed node is way less impressive, but I think this is one of the single most important dog nodes and it's directly off a mandatory toughness node.

If you think about it the dog is just an abstract brain burst without a cast, but with a lower fire rate
if you view it that way you can see why it'd be really good for btfoing random bombers and snipers around the level (especially without having direct line of sight to them, like when you tag em and htey run across a corner), maybe opening bulwarks, but middling in most other purposes

I wonder how you'd build out the suppression shields.
Like High Voltage is just a no brainer since it's basically 25% free damage always.
Just wondering what would be a good second blessing. Lightning reflexes seems neat.
Offensive Defence is pretty though, tried it on slab shield and it just isn't great.

It's ok anon, you can't win them all :) it's saturday you should relax.

>>528314123
can you rephrase that? your english is pretty hard to read

>>528314370
Maybe Opportunist will get some value for bonking Crushers since Arbeetus has a ton of damage and stagger but not a lot of rending.

>>528314364
True. But impact grenades are great too, from what I've seen of the gameplay vids that have been posted the grenades do decent horde clear.
And due to Lone Wolf you get 4 of them AND it regenerates every 60s. So you can just go around chucking these things and stunning elites and clearing hordes.

>>528314364
thanks pie i'll try it

>>528314771
you get 5, but it's just a little puff and people keep using it to get themselves out of bad situations they could've just brought crusher to get them out of. It's not 15 seconds of smigging

>>528314673
Powerfists are anti-armor weapons primarily used to destroy heavily armored vehicles, a violently insane religious zealot fixated with incinerating and bloodletting the impure and the blasphemous would have little need of such a weapon.

>>528314730
It's either Opportunist or Lightning Reflexes.
Rending would be cool.

>>528314932
I get it, but that's the problem. It's 15 minutes of smigging.
Smiggers are already insufferable and unfun to play with, you want Arbites to be smigger 2.0?

>>528314941
you likely say the same thing about the meltagun
zealot got 2h power sword for a reason
if you get power fist, zealot needs to get dual wield power fist

>>528313530
These models look ancient. How old are they?

Which of these co-op scary slop games are the best?

>Content Warning
>REPO
>Lethal Company
>Outlast Trials
>Backrooms
>That other one with the emoji all over Steam

>>528315185
Meltaguns fulfill the "burning" part while power swords fulfill the "bleeding" part, thus it is not illogical for the Zealot to use such weapons, as do the Ecclesiarchy's official troops, the Sisters of Battle.

>>528315165
It's not a matter of what I want. People are going to gravitate towards it because it works and it's braindead. DS has been the top pick for a year lol

>>528314408
She’s drinking my cum which is why she looks so satisfied btw

>>528315185
Meltaguns are an established Ecclesiarchy favorite. There other, more fitting power weapons like the Power Halberd, or Neural whip Zealot can use.

>>528315402
zealot has thunder hammer and crusher, your "iT's NoT tHeMaTiC" argument is invalid

>>528315397
Outlast Trials > Lethal Company > the rest. Granted I’ve never played REPO but what I saw didn’t impress me.

>>528315397
>Repo
Ok with friends, not very scary. Gets a bit boring after a few runs.
>Backrooms
A lot of fun with friends. Though due to its nature, its really only worth playing once. And everyone should be going in blind too.
>That other one with the emoji all over Steam
Pretty sure thats also Repo.

>>528316194
Oh you're right, they changed the weird emoji as their store picture. Probably a good idea.

>>528315397
Lethal Company lends itself to creating funnier and more engaging moments than Repo/Content Warning. Backrooms is okay if you're into the setting but doesn't have that much content.

What are some fun co-op games you played with friends that aren't into Dwarves, zombies or Warhammer?

>>528316534
heckdivers awaits

To the anons that were discussing 40k boltgun, I'm playing it and it's a slog zzzzzzzz

>>528315698
So why does the Zealot need the Power Fist again when they are functionally the same in concept and tabletop crunch?
>Thunder Hammers
Thunder Hammers are an outlier for variety's sake because they are only used by Space Marines and Inquisitors, the Zealots see working for the Inquisition as a great honor, so it's at least thematic.
>Power Mauls
Religious warriors are often depicted with blunt weapons to avoid drawing blood, which is probably bullshit but still thematic because the Zealot is a religious warrior.

>>528316854
Fuck, I forgot about heckdivers

>>528316926
because you're the beta bitch ranged class and I'm the sigma male melee class
stay in your lane

>>528316328
My biggest worry about Lethal Company is that it's early-access, and I imagine it's not had that many changes since launch.

>>528317025
Sit down, shouty.

HOLD THE FUCK UP! can arbites use the "normal" revolver?

>>528317208
eat dirt, conscript

>>528316534
EDF games are always a fun time
Aliens Fireteam was solid
Strange Brigade is worth at least one playthrough, though mummies might be too close to zombies.

>>528317264
>Aliens Fireteam was solid
I liked it. I thought the guns jamming modification was really cool.

>>528317225

>>528317225

>>528317583
>Oh fuck yeah, I can't wait to use the SHREDDER AUTOPISTOL and VIGILANT AUTOGUN
Said nobody that graduated past malice

>>528314730
>not a lot of rending.
He gets +15% rending on staggered enemies as a talent

>RealAsianRobot officialy sponsored by Fatshark to make a video for their channel
This fag hasn't done a Darktide video in months lmao. Why do they always make the worst choices

>>528316534
You just cut out 80 percent of candidates.

>>528316534
Try Firebreak :)
But really you got Helldivers 2, Killing Floor 3 coming soon, Abiotic Factor I've heard is extremely fun but never tried. The Forever Winter is another although janky and very unusual.

>>528315828
i gave trials a try a few months back and it was fun. dropped it because i got distracted with irl shit but i’d like to get back into it eventually.

>>528317171
Eh, there's enough there and thousands of mods for additional monsters, exteriors, and interiors, it's definitely in a better state than REPO or Content Warning.

>>528317583

Was checking my wishlist and found RIPOUT. Anyone tried this? It looked very promising but the fact that 3DRealms published it meant it was doomed to fail. Thoughts?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1558830/RIPOUT/

>>528318449
>Killing Floor 3
Is zombies and also going to be dogshit

>>528312831
>but it's kind of hard to judge just how good the dog is without being able to do some science on it
remember 4 arbites h40 clear video from yesterday? only one of them had a dog

>>528318984
KF3 isn't zombies. The regular clot zeds are the braindead zombie-like enemy made to die, but the rest are way too different to seriously call it a zombie-like game.

>>528316534
Play Darktide, your faggot friends will be into Warhammer after that.

>>528312432
10% attack speed and regenerating blitz should be keystone modifiers

>>528319243
There's also Havoc 40 videos with 4 dogs. What's your point?

>>528319596
they're dogstones
see? they're purple so they can do crazy shit for 1 point :)

I was gifted Darktide andnhave been dragged through some games as Zealot.

What's a good build? I wanna use a heavy sord.
Also how do I git gud?

>>528319462
patato-mulato, stfu

>>528319730
Here you go. You don't need more than this. There is literally nothing you could want to adjust in this build until you start running havoc 40 which is probably hundreds of hours away for a complete beginner.

>>528317583
>>528318645
Surprising they didn't give arby the dueling sword.
But at the same time it isn't a 100% surprise, people have been bitching about it and pointed out how horribly unbalanced the weapon is for almost 1 year, so they didn't add it. Which is the devs way of acknowledging the issue.

>>528319243
>h40 clear
Seems a bit of an unfair comparison though, since it was not only a cop-only run, but also havoc 40. NOT taking infinite smiggerino seems like a retarded choice to make, especially if you're the only cop on the team, especially when the dog isn't that amazing into the heinously dense armor blobs that havoc produces at times.

>>528315487
Fair point.

Why did they decide to give the crusher worse carapace damage than combat axes?

>>528319462
It’s zombies dude. That’s like saying Darktide isn’t zombies because we have crushers and trappers. Yes there are other enemy types but the majority of what you’re fighting are zombies.

>>528319730
>I wanna use a heavy sord.
Stick to fury of the faithful, then, you're going to need the armor pen it provides. >>528320079 presented a good build, that's as standard as it gets. My personal preference is taking the left side of the keystone for the toughness DR and crit aura, but that's the only thing I'd change.
The heavy sword still won't kill armor good, so bring a ranged weapon that can. Bolter and bolt pistol are likely your best bet for killing armor if you build them right, revolver can also do it well if you critmaxx.
>how do I git gud?
Play at the highest difficulty you can manage without going down constantly, until you're comfortable and don't feel overwhelmed. Then go up a tier.
Bind dodge to shift and crouch to left alt and/or a mouse side button, that way you can more ergonomically dodge + slide around.
Block. Lots. Make it a habit to hold block if you aren't actively running or killing things. Block push is very good, use it.
Pay attention. The hallmark of a shitter is his obliviousness to anything and everything around him. When someone pings somewhere, at least look at what they want. If someone is disabled and it's no more than a minor inconvenience for you, drop everything and save them (unless they're the token shitter that gets disabled constantly, then just let them die). Move with your team. Being retards together is often better than being smart by yourself. If 2 of your idiots want to go back and revive the moron who got lost, not going with them can get you killed if you aren't good enough.

>>528319730
>Zealot
Zealot is a class characterized by a very outdated and poorly-made talent tree. The top right side of the tree (that leads to Blades of Faith) is absurdly more powerful than the other options. Next, you have the choice between Fury or Chorus for your ultimate ability. Both solid, Fury is for boss-killing and Chorus is generally the better survival/support tool that can clutch games.
For your keystones, Blazing Piety is the strongest choice. >25% permanent crits is absurdly powerful, especially considering an earlier node that provides you with 50% toughness damage resistance (TDR) for 4 seconds, refreshed every time you crit. You also ideally get 20% TDR from the Operative Modules (OMs).
Martyrdom is strong but not stronger, and way riskier. Try it when you are better at the game.
Camouflage ultimates are memes because they dump enemy aggro onto your teammates, but can be useful for easy safe revives, although Chorus with ally revive speed Curios can help you do this.
Zealot is characterized by critical strikes and dodging. When you dodge, you get buffs, as long as you chose the correct talents. Always be dodging. Also optionally get the "NumericUI" mod so that you can see your current effective dodge count, of which every weapon has an unique amount of. Keeping track of effective dodges is very important. Effective dodges fully refresh after about 2/3rds of a second without dodging or sliding. This is longer than you think, when you're in the thick of battle.
For misc info, know that there is a "woosh" sound that plays whenever you are going to get hit from off-screen. There is a technological SFX (ba-dump) that plays when you are about to get SHOT from off-screen. Blocking works in a 360-degree angle, but is less effective the further from your inner block angle you are hit from. Pushing also works in 360 degrees.
Lastly, google what "dump stats" for weapons are.

>>528320873
>although Chorus with ally revive speed Curios can help you do this.
You only need a single revive speed perk in your curios to revive someone unmolested, if you time it with when the stagger wave comes out. Same for veteran. One should be standard with chorus/shout, using more is a meme.
I used to run Leave No One Behind and full revive speed curios on a stealth vet while farming for the penance, and that was fucking hilarious, but by no means good.

Are there any non outdated, beginner friendly videos out there talking about each class, their role, and expectations required of them?

>>528319505
We're into Warhammer, we just think Darktide is shit.

>>528321645
Then get the fuck out of the warhammer general
*hawk tuah!*
*spits in your face*

>>528320825
>Bind dodge to shift and crouch to left alt
Do not do this. What the fuck. This is counter intuitive and retarded.
Everyone just binds crouch to C because that's better than alt.
Dodge remains space and just bind jump to V since you don't need to jump often in this game.Space is the best button for dodging.

>>528321893
Not until I ask around for more goofy co-op games
*spits on ma thang*

>>528321469
>are there jewtubers not being complete fags?
I don't know of any that do educational content.

Ogryn bonks things and is as powerful as he is easy to play
Zealot enables one of the most active and fast playstyles and does lots of melee
Veteran kills specials and is really fucking good at doing so
Psyker has infinite ammo and some of the best horde clear available, and also cuck bubble

time to get #litty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgF-NcfWtSc

>>528321469
In every difficulty except havoc, you need to have decent horde clear options, armored killing and special sniping abilities

Melee builds need to learn how to rush gunners and kill them in melee

>>528321930
What kind of absolute freak puts crouch on C and jump on V? What the fuck?

>>528322067
Yeah, I'm thinking I can smell what Randy is cookin' and it's DAWG shit

>>528322250
C for crouch is oldhead shit. If you're a zoomer you won't get it.
Jump is fucking irrelevant. You jump maybe once every 3 hours in this game. Having dodge on the best button, space bar is more important than jumping. Shift is a retarded button to have dodge on when space is right there.

I have dodge and crouch on default and jump on C

>>528322067
lel

>>528322067
Isn't this the "exaggerated swagger of a black teen" guy? How does he still have a job?

>>528322503
>C for crouch is oldhead shit.
What manner of creature binds crouch to C in fucking counter strike? I can't think of another dusty old-ass game where crouching was vitally important to the gameplay.

>>528322067
darktide will never be this badass

>watching arbites gameplay
>basically all players exvept cocoB just do semi ramdom attack combos
Ugh.... i need to get my hands on the arbeetus. I need to show shitters how it's done

>>528323398
>actually using combos instead of just spamming lights like a braindead ape
woman coded

>crusher goes to space cop
>crusher does not get a new mark
>crusher does not get balance changes
whymst

>>528321469
No class has one defined role because of the way talents work, everyone can do everything but one class will usually be the best at it
>Ogryn
He's the tankiest class, also the slowest. He's a frontliner. Disablers and long-range combat are his weaknesses
>Zealot
Hard to say honestly, but most often the best class at killing monstrosities, a speed demon (this enables them to rush down gunners and such) and the most melee focused of all classes. Their weakness depends on their current specialization
>Psyker
Best crowd clearer in the game, support class, can be made to do more melee damage than Zealot and more ranged damage than Veteran while giving up their best support tools
>Veteran
Best specialist killer, weakness is crowd control
>Arbites
Crowd clearer staggermaxxing support man

kino

>>528323725
They don't even aim at heads...
>>528323756
The crusher used to be stinky doodoo caca tier but its special was very powerful, then they nerfed the special and buffed the damage, then they nerfed the attack speed, then they gave it new and better blessings

>>528323756
>new space cop melees don't have skullcrusher because of how obvious of a choice it would be
>gives space cop the shock maul and the crusher
>they still have skullcrusher
kek what the fuck

>>528323756
Its already pretty good, with all the stagger nodes on arbites tree its gonna be great.

>>528321645
sounds like bad taste on your part(s)

>>528323398
the actual skill ceiling of a class is never initially shown nor figured out
it takes time and autism for people to figure out just how far a strategy can be pushed, i guarantee you within a month there'll be autists running solo dogless arbeetus in aurics

>>528322067
Wow, looks just like the past 2 games. But gayer.
>>528323149
Because he’s black and firing him would be racist.

>>528324196
BUT they get confident strike

>>528322067
>scrub through the video
>15:49
>As you can see, this GOOPY LAD is putting himself into a gross cocoon, and filling the room with poison, making the ground completely lethal to me if I stood on it for more than a couple seconds.
>to survive, I had to continuously grapple hook around like your friendly neighborhood spiderman, in a very deadly game of the floor is lava, taking shots at the boss' poisonous shell when in-between grapples
>I was really forced to master the grapple hook to stay alive and stand a chance against this guy
...doesn't the game give you a fucking mid-air glide that's central to the gameplay? Is this the borderlands equivalent of the cuphead tutorial guy?
Journiggers need to die.

>>528324510
2 things i know is that the dog is very good and that you need the numerous damage talents

>>528320107
I wonder how unbalanced the dog would actually be if the Arbeetus had access to Untranny Strike.

>>528324905
It wouldn't affect the dog as far as i can tell

>>528325029
Red stimm affects the dog, mister estrogen tested it on stream earlier.

I'm the best coop gamer in the world.

>>528325104
Interesting. I have seen other buffs not affect the dog so i thought it wouldn't

>>528324717
I can't believe a fucking adult talks like that

>>528324905
Why?

the more I look at space cop, the more I'm sure he's mid
it's funny how 4 days of preview is having the opposite affect

>>528323756
It's peak laziness for them to give the existing power maul weapon to Arbites instead of making a new exclusive 1 handed power maul for them.

>>528326834
Any class is mid when you're the one playing it

>>528326834
Those streamers can make Zealot or Ogryn look underpowered

>>528327125
I'm not the one playing it

>>528327237
Just shitty streamers and youtubers

>>528326834
>sure releasing a new DLC next week won't cause any problems

>>528327594
A new class shouldn't be that problematic, compared to the mission board/story progression rework that might break a lot of existing shit.

>>528313267
Praying for you blood
I checked out of 1 when they nerfed berserker and 2 before the PVP update that apparently killed the game but it'd be nice if 3 was good somehow

It's taken too long for Arbites to come out. I've already bored and will cancel my preorder.

>>528313267
You and me both anon-kun

>>528313267
Just play Darktide. It's superior game in every possible way, and deep down you know this is true.

and you thought hounds rebounding bursters into you was bad
https://youtu.be/f1DbOA-4IjY?t=499

>>528328279
ADHD having ass nigga

>>528328807
They ignore poxbursters unless you double-ping them.

>>528328957
he single pinged it
either the dog was going for it, or the mutant as it ran by, but the dog obviously did it
not even the first sloptuber video I've seen this exact scenario play out in

>>528328598
Nobody thinks this

>>528328807
Yes. Dogs sometimes push bursters into you. The bursters have to be activated and be positioned between you and your dog before the dog attacks it for this to happen

>>528329212
Literally everyone who has played both games thinks that

>arbites mourningstar boarding cinematic
>"We'll have to spread ourselves thin and go on strike teams with these...REJECTS...it's the only way."
>actual state of the game for weeks after arbites drops
>4 man arbites squads, not a reject in sight
lol, can't wait for a repeat of this when the eldar drops

>>528329212
nobody thinks KF3 is better than anything.
t. played the beta so feel free to AMA

>>528328598
but it's solved. even arbites is solved now with the build editor and jewtubers getting early access

I'm so gad they didn't add some shitty meme class like ratling, skittari, eldar or sister of battle

>>528329103
You watch a lot of sloptubers huh?

>>528329721
The navy seals did this in afghanistan
They were instructed to include afghani soldiers in their missions but they tried to sideline them as much as possible because they were basically ogryns in the bodies of scrawny little goat fuckers

>>528329721
What are you talking about, they'd hate the Eldar more than any of the base roster. Filthy two meter tall xenos lanklet.

>>528329864
Yeah it's a good thing they added a heckin borkin pupperino booplesnoot gooderest boi, definitely not a reddit meme and I can't wait to see all the shibes and give them my updoots

>>528329864
they'll have to with the next one, or else the reddit crowd will leave

>>528329980
if there's a single person not just watching arbites gameplay footage right now, please feel free to step forward and receive your award

>>528330231
The day an eldar class dropped, the entire mourningstar would be nothing but elves.

>>528330693
How are they even going to make an Eldar class when all their infantry are specialists who spent thousands of years doing only one thing, and the only one who can do everything are their general equivalents?

>>528330693
Finally. Attractive female faces
>>528330881
The rejects are already complete murder machines

>>528329103
Likely an old video. From the discord server, the playtesters claim what I said, unless they're lying which I wouldn't be surprised at. I also read that dogs used to immediately kill poxbursters on pounce.

>>528331026
Think again, chucklenuts.

>>528331163
They should have kept it that way
Kill bursters instantly but ONLY if you ping them

>>528329826
>>528329523
Apologies, I read that as Darktide being a good game, not a game that's better than KF3 (also shit)

>>528316534
Gunfire Reborn, Roboquest, Deadzone: Rogue, Crab Champions

>>528331525
Darktide is a fantastic game

>>528316534

>>528323398
>chocoB
legitimately a pleasure to watch this guy play, his mastery of combos is crazy

>>528332165

>>528330502
I just genuinely do not watch gameplay for games I am already playing

>>528330881
Same way Bardin can be a Slayer and a gunner at the same time, timey wimey bullshit

>>528332756
You are not playing Warhammer 40,000: Darktide - Arbites Class

buy the arbiter or that new robocop game.... hmmm what to do

>>528332968
The arbiter

>everyone was hyping Arbitrator Kerillian and Arbitrator Katarin
>Arbitrator Literally Who is actually the cutest

>>528332634
who is this semen demon

>>528333297
Arbitrator-Literally-Who and Lex-Offender

>>528332756
I'm going to find it hard to believe that GW would be interested in greenlighting an Eldar DLC, then or that Fartshart is competent enough to design a class that encompasses most of the Aeldari paths/aspects including Farseer/Warlock.

>>528334020
It would just be some drukhari space pirate mercenary turned inquisitor lackey. It would not be some craftworld girl scout.

Is the update coming tomorrow for US since Swedes live in a desolate hellscape future?

>>528335235
38 hours from now. Even for americans

>>528335235
That's not how it works, retard.

>>528336164
>38 hours
I'm gonna do it in one BIG sleep

>>528336565
Boot up Vermintide 2, pick Foot Knight, Mace & Shield and Blunderbuss. Here's your Arbites experience while you wait.

>>528313530
>still no power sword mark with the falchion moveset
Fuck this gay hive city

>>528336839
Don't do this

is nightreign /cocopop/ or what

>>528337323
wtf is this design

>>528337323
Nightreign is quite underhyped actually, it'll die fast

>>528320079
this but take martyrdom instead of piety because two handed weapons suck

>>528337827
>glutenfree
I'm so glad I grew up in the 90s

>>528338224
Nope

>>528338224
Kill yourself.

>>528338121
meh, I'm not a big fromsoft fan and got it on a whim
definitely enjoying it more than I should
depends on how they go on with it, still already in a better state than anything fatshart ever released

>>528338224
true, other two retards don't understand the game

>1 day 14 hours

>>528338524
Don't reply to yourself. You got dunked on

I can't wait for the eviscerator buff to make the heavy swords completely superfluous

>>528339263
never in my life seen someone use the heavy sword anyway

>>528339949
it's fun against mutant + rager spam but that's about it

>>528339949
It used to be hot shit back in the days before the slaughterer nerf and crusher spam

Now that the dust is settled, can we all agree that tbe arbites should have gotten chain axes?

>>528340451
not thematic

>>528340548
But the other axes are? Even the psyker gets chain axes

>>528325470
Believe it. We are fucked.

>>528328598
trvth
>>528330159
well that makes sense in their case

>>528332165
hi chocoB you will never sex demonie

>>528330881
>>528334020
I’m not seeing the issue here. The Aeldari paths is pretty much them lobotomizing themselves, but that doesn’t mean they can’t have different abilities that could be implemented into different talent trees. Or even just give them different path options in the character creation screen. There’s workarounds for it. That said I certainly wouldn’t feel alright with an Aeldari class being introduced so soon. We need to move along in the story and get more Imperials in before that should even start to be considered.
>>528334583
That would be worse. The Drukhari would backstab each other at the first opportunity, let alone human prisoners

>>528332968
new? that shit is hearing two years old and everyone seems to have forgotten about it already

>>528331525
it is a good game. at least at what it does right.

>>528341504
I am not chocob unfortunately I am a brown third worlder

>chocoB
Im fairly certain I played a match with him and called him or someone else in the team a slur
maybe it was just a similar name

>>528338492
It's proof that good game design and some effort makes even an asset flip fun. I'm not a fan of the live service stuff but wcyd

>>528342485
So french?

just had a slice of chocolate pudding pie with vanilla whipped cream
it's really good

>>528336565
I remember seeing a similar image to this (or it might have been this one) some 8 years ago and it legitimately made me nauseous and queasy for the entire day

>>528340451
Why? I'd rather they get more unique guns honestly

>>528340548
Most of the things Arbites gets aren't thematic

>>528323230
nta but c is for crouch toggle, ctrl is for crouch
get off my lawn

>>528342538
un ptit kebab chef?

>>528332882
Well shit, you got me there
>>528334583
>>528342146
Could be an unaligned renegade. Some Eldar do break off from the craftworlds/commorragh and just take their chances using regular warp drive enabled ships to prey on merchants rather than the webway, living in constant fear of being anal vored by Slaanesh.

Are chainswords doomed to be lackluster forever?

>Retarded team mate won't hit the fucking eyeballs that spawn
>Heresy difficulty btw
>Level 30 Veteran wearing Prisoner clothing and won't fucking hit the eyeballs
This man bought his fucking level.

>>528343510
Either make them chew through targets a lot faster or have them work like 2 handed power sword's activation. Also increase the chainsaw sounds 10x.

>>528343718
Heresy is where all the shitters gather

Is ogryn OP or does he fall off in H40? I've been running auric maelstrom and just trivialize it every time with ogryn (light pickaxe heavy spam)

>>528343510
give them better combos or cleave and I might use em

>>528344247
Below high Havoc he's very very OP. In Aurics you can just lightspam and never die.
He doesn't fall off in Havoc no, all his qualities are present and still extremely strong and valuable, but he's also not any more overpowered than the other classes as some anons and forumshitters like to pretend. Havoc you will always rely on your team heavily.

>>528344247
ogryn is op as long as he can actually hit something in melee
the moment you're stuck in the "specialists and gunners are pinning you down and there's nobody to hit in melee" you're fucked

>>528342146
With the power level in the game, you're never going to see an aspect warrior, at BEST we'll get a guardian or scout. That's like asking for a Space Marine. I dont even think we'll get a SOB, unless its a sister repentia, but that's almost the zealot anyways.
I can see ratlings, and I definitely see a hive scum class show up too.

What is up with all the AFKers and leavers in Heresy in Darktide? It's ridiculous how many there are.
>I died or went down? TIME TO LEAVE!

>>528344801
This. Ogryn has REALLY bad movement, he can't rush them down and his best weapons for dealing with long range threats are extremely slow to shoot, reload and swap to, and his hitbox is huge. His speed, stamina regeneration, sprint efficiency and dodge efficiency are significantly lower than other classes, so to say, Ogryn plays as you should expect them to, if a bit nerfed. If they wanted to be even closer to Ogryns as in lore, you would be one-shotting most of everything because those guys are described as being physically strong as a Space Marine.

>>528342785
Besides chainswords and autoguns, most of the shit they have are part of their historical armory. Autoguns are probably just a lazy fill-in for the heavy stubber anyway, and at least for the axes, they'd work as fireman axes for chopping doors and barricades during raids.

>>528345146
sometimes issues come up for people irl

>>528345441
>in lore, you would be one-shotting most of everything because those guys are described as being physically strong as a Space Marine.
They're much physically stronger than SMs. They're just less physically capable in a fight, because SMs have better INT and DEX.

>arbites deals more ranged damage than vet

>>528347494
Thanks to his 1000 damage shotgun which you can spam at hordes

What does Cleave, Impact, etc mean in Darktide?

>>528347815
I’ve got a bad feeling it’s just going to come down to bolter only

>>528349368
>cleave
through how many enemies your attack will go through, and how much damage it'll do to enemies after the first one
>impact
the amount of stun/stagger/knockback applied by your attacks
>suppression
a suppressed enemy is one that flinches or runs away from you, no longer attacking you
>power/strength
damage basically
>rending
armor penetration
>finesse
how much stronger your crits and headshots are compared to usual

>>528349892
power/strength also increases cleave and impact

>>528349892
>>528349368
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/effects
power and strength are the same thing apparently

>>528350147
huh first i've heard of it

>>528347494
>after marking the target with skullcrusher

>concussion grenades
>lone wolf
>break the line
>rashad
>bolt pistol
Alright let's see what this class has to offer

>>528344932
yeah we’d need a really inexperienced and weak specimen otherwise it’s just weird
>ratlings
>hive scum
i hope not

>>528350314
They renamed power to strength during the update that renamed most of the weapons for some reason

Arboinkus gets 7.5% baseline crit

>>528350494
>which isn’t on any of their new weapons
Bravo fatshark

I am torn. I watched Mr. E's video showing off the melee weapons in the Psyk (yeah, I know, sue me). And the Tac axe and Rashad Combat axe seem stupid powerful, but neither play into the skill tree for the Arbites. I also really hate that the Arbites Shock Maul is not as good as the regular ass one.

This saddens me. I hope that the Crusher gets pass (again) with another weapon balance update in the future so I can at least feel like I'm an Arbites.

>>528350609
Ratling makes no sense in the scope of the game when they're scout sniper specialists in a game about chopping poxwalkers and doming gunners 30m away from you. Literally a midget vet that is bad in melee and cannot excel in the role his species his known for.
>hive scum
Fits the Reject theme so they're a cheap potential shoe-in, and they can can have a theme of improvised weapons and fighting dirty with combat drugs and traps. Would need some exotic toys like Needle Rifles or something to justify the pricetag and to distinguish themselves from Vet/Arbites.

>>528351603
Crusher doesn't need buffs

>>528351603
>>528351679
I think the special could do with a slight buff

>>528351603
Skullcrusher not being on the one handed maul is not really such a big deal. It's base damage is already so high its like its a regular shock maul with skullcrusher applied at all times.
The only real niftiness of skullcrusher is tagging targets for teammates or your gun to do ridiculous damage, and Arbites has no ammo economy.
I think the one handed shock maul will still hold popularity because it's basically just runt bully club, and just as braindead.

>>528351897
They also get confident strike. You can be basically immortal with the arbites

>ogryn raping everything with skullcrusher
>arbites has incredible synergy with it too
It’s going to get nerfed isn’t it?

>>528351986
Don't really need it, there's already lots of toughness generation from other dumb sources on beeties

>>528351986
Confident strike and the perk that gives them toughness on block look really good with the shield

>>528351639
>Ratling makes no sense in the scope of the game when they're scout sniper specialists in a game about chopping poxwalkers and doming gunners 30m away from you. Literally a midget vet that is bad in melee and cannot excel in the role his species his known for.
Excellent point.
>Hive scum
Makes sense for the games theme and power level. Even if they're criminal scum, no one wants to see your home get turned into Nurgle's new garden.

>>528352101
Doesn't need it, but you can use it

Arbies look cringe and gay. The dog is dumb and can push poxbursters into you after you've already shoved them. They only have 7 melee weapons, only two of which are unique. Guns are a similar story. This is what they've cooked up after 3 whole years.

>>528352294
I think every class should have more limited weapon selections with more class exclusive ones

Doomers running on fumes

>>528352518
howver... every mechanic knows... fumes are the real danger... they can kill you silently... and even explode... food for thought.... arbites sissy

>>528352231
I could see the next one being mechanicus themed just because it’s so highly requested, personally not interested in it but seems likely. A ganger also seems like something fatshark would add, someone on the team is clearly very fond of necromunda.

>>528352614
Shut up, ahmed

Did I dream the Fatshark blog where they said the dog could retrieve items you pinged? I haven't seen that feature used even once and I can't find the source of it anymore.

>>528353040
No, they definitely said it.

>>528353402
why must you lie to me

1 day and 11 hours

>>528351639
>Literally a midget vet that is bad in melee
Just give em Duelling Sword

>>528351639
>Ratling makes no sense in the scope of the game when they're scout sniper specialists in a game about chopping poxwalkers and doming gunners 30m away from you. Literally a midget vet that is bad in melee and cannot excel in the role his species his known for.

Just give him clamber so he can get to vantage points where he can snipe/scout from relative safety

>>528351639
>it's a ratling therefore he would have to be bad at melee
yeah I know right, it's like how we have an ogryn and so all his weapons do more damage than human weapons

>>528353436
I'm not, I also read what you are discussing. I 100% recall what you were saying and thinking it was retarded.

>>528350980
veteran and zealot classes are 5%, ogryn is 2.5% and psyker is also 7.5%
with operative modules psyker usually ends up with 12.5% (22.5% with aura LOL balanced), veteran sometimes with 10%, and zealot and ogryn stay the same
arbites has less nodes so his base stats are higher

>>528354314
>22.5% with aura
Oops, actually the aura is +5% crits, I misremembered it for 10%

>>528354314
Th best thing is they have psykers stamina regen delay. Higher base crit is nice but they don’t seem to have an insane amount of crit chance in their skill tree

>how can we motivate our content creators and playtesters?
>$150 worth of aquilas
>how can we motivate our playerbase?
>$2.50 worth of aquilas
someone tell fatshark to run another event when beetus launches so I can afford the sam fisher mask, thanks

>>528354785
>Darktide content creators
for what purpose

>>528353040
*raises paw*
It was me who said that

>entering manufactorum level
>arbites: "TANKS cannot enforce the LEX"
what a very unamerican view on law enforcement

>>528354991
why did you lie

>>528354991
Stupid dog, you made me look bad.
BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA

From what i’m seeing arbite is going to replace vet for havok, but can’t really replace a psyker, zealot, or ogryn. But those 4 together will be a great team. Arbite is a great special sniper, and while they don’t bring ammo regen they bring amazing crowd control and can easily make their own space to gun specials down. Shock mines every 60 seconds for free with a charge every 10 seconds look incredibly strong.

>>528353765
>the worst 2 archetypes of vet combined (sharpshooter & stealth) to do scouting and sniping
>canonically frail, weak in close range fighting and forced to be short so it's harder to click heads in melee or shoot ranged enemies behind trashmobs
Do ratlingfags unironically believe short vet would be a fun class to play?

>>528355224
Also even shorter than Bardin in a game with nothing but man sized enemies and larger. Rattling probably couldn’t even reach a crushers head

>>528355224
I think wall climbing and using geometry others can't is fun, and I want playable cute shortstack girls. I will settle for playable shortstack girls though knowing fatshart

Hell you could give it a piggyback mechanic to get a vantage where there's no good terrain to climb on.

>>528355224
Also we already have a the ogryn sniper that is superior in every way
>tanky
>strong melee even without the talents
>has the single stubber
>can aim over enemies

>>528355026
Funny since Arbites roll around in Rhinos as their regular transport.

>>528355469
>shortstacks
they would just be ugly midgets dude what game do you think you are playing? this isn't made by japanese

>>528329721
you say that but I expect a lot of players to jump back to ogryn
non-chorus zealots will be dumped though

>>528356141
FoTF Zealots will probably have a lot of staying power now that the Evis is actually fixed. It seems like a really brutal weapon, as it ought to have been all along.

>>528356332
It truly is a jack-off all trades

>>528356868
rofl... why what you said there doesn't means what you think it mean

>>528351603
>Tac axe and Rashad Combat axe
not sure why arbites even has them, they removed all swords and made blunt weapons his specialty, I thought they would remove all edged weapons but here we are. Plus it has chainsword but not chainaxe, like wtf? It has all the axes but chainaxe and the only sword is chainsword, what's the logic behind it?
>Arbites Shock Maul is not as good as the regular ass one
Yeah not giving it skullcrusher is ridiculous, like what was even the point of making a new maul
It looks like it has worse cleave too, why does it even exist

>flak and maniac
Has turned into
>carapace and unyielding

Let that sink in

>>528357090
Sorry. I'm ESL
I meant to say "cock-masturbator" all trades

>>528357108
I am just going to cope by seeing how far I can push the Arbites one with time, and maybe console myself that they'll give it Skullcrusher at some point. Mr. E said that the Shield+Maul combo blessings are total shit and he doesn't understand them at all. Which I found interesting since that is one of the signature weapons. The Arbites Maul missing Skullcrusher sucks, but it's not such a major fuck up compared to giving it a bunch of useless conditional blessings like the Shield apparently has.

>>528357298
I'm kinda relieved that the arbite shield doesn't have the same blessings as the ogryn shield, because we'd be back to H1 spamming literally everything

>>528357147
They really should have just made crushers tougher instead of spamming the shit out of them

>>528357108
Axes could be used to chop through door and barricades? You can also club perps with the blunt end like with the special attacks. Chainsword but no chainaxe makes no sense however.

>>528357427
As an ogryn main, i really like mowing down hordes of crushers like they are nothing

>>528354785
they were forced to play on the game at baby difficulty on fresh accounts and were forbidden from sharing any of it
it really is fair that they get compensated, they have spent time and were not able to publish any related content

>>528357108
>>528357514
Special forces do sometimes use axes as breaching tools

>>528357427
I miss the days when three Crushers showing up out of a monster closet was a nightmare scenario.

>>528357787
Usually only the ones with a pry on the other end.

if anyone from this thread was hired as a tester they would point out the lack of chainaxe and absurdity of adding a chainsword
just saying

new Mister Fag video on Arbites' melees
tl;dw
Chainsword is absolutely terrible to no one's surpise
Combat Axe is a very strong Monstrosity killer
Buffed Shock Mauls are REALLY good as expected
Arbites Maul is characterized by a very powerful special attack, possibly OP weapon
Crusher is overhyped
Shield and Maul is OK, not much noteworthy
MkVii Taxe (base 7.5% crit rate) is great. Not very good into monstrosities or carapace, but really insane mobility

>>528358576
I'd do it for free
>>528358586
Some of these weapons require precise combo uses, headshotting and good talent building which mr estrogen seems almost incapable of doing

>castigator stance mode puts ammo from reserves into the mag and has a cool down
Why would you ever use this? Even with zero cool down it would be iffy. It should have been ammo refund

>>528358576
we would also point out how retarded it is that one of the auras is just 7.5% reload speed. how the fuck did none of them talk them out of that?

>>528359495
>magdump bolt gun
>activate castigator
>magdump bolt gun
It will just be like my release vet build

>>528359617
It reloads your weapon?

>>528358576
I think Arbeeto had more weapons than we see but play testers pointed out that was stupid because they would just use DS which completely makes the entire class pointless.
Judging by the lack of 2hander maul when leaks talked about one means they rushed the weapons out last minute.
2 hand maul and big gun coming next year.

captcha: GAYMG

>>528359648
I don't know I didn't care to edge myself with Arbites news half a week before it came out, but based on the person I was replying to it does

>>528359495
Shotgun reload is so slow that bypassing it is an ultimate ability

>>528359696
At least there’s a good amount they can add
>the long ranged self guided shotgun
>grenade launcher
>heavy stubber
>shock flail
>dominator maul
>shield variants of the shock flail and dominator maul
Plus their current weapons have rooms for more marks

Rememeber the achlys combat axe?
No?
Well, most don't
However, you could easily make it a great pick by simply making the heavy attacks sweep from left to right

>>528359495
>build entirely so weakness is shooters
>shooter section appears
>press my button to have infinite mag and 80% DR for 10 seconds
>literally just slide dodge into it and kill them all
it sounds pretty good to me

>>528359802
Just checked, it does not reload you weapon on activation. The ability looks good but the additional nodes for it look pretty shit, probably better if just putting the two points somewhere else.

So what happens if you choose Remote Detonation or any of the other dog buffing talents but then get rid of the dog? Would be neat if those talents at least in part transmitted to you as well

FATSHARK, change the fucking crusher and combat axes so that sprinting doesn't cancel the attacks

Castigator's Stance seems like either a meme or a prime clutch tool. Just activate it and escape a bad situation or rescue your teammates with that 80% damage reduction, probably not actually good for killing but to ensure you leave a bad spot.

>>528358586
He showed the Tac Axe being very strong into Monstrosities, but bad against Carapace. Especially because of how fast you can hit shit with it.

>>528360310
It's not possible to do that in-game, it's just a gameslantern oversight. If you pick the dog bomb you can't select lone wolf

Alright, I've barely watched any gameplay, this is just based on my understanding of existing mechanics. How did I do?

>>528361057
LOL

>>528361057
good for auric

This is how you kill bulwarks with the crusher (weapon)
>activate special and do a light attack into the shield
>follow up with a light attack to the bulwark's head
>end it with a heavy attack to the bulwarks head
This should be enough to kill a bulwark with your new arbites class

>>528360694
The bash does the same thing and its CD can be reduced to basically nothing.

>>528360694
it allows you to tank a Daemonhost just standing there

>look at faginals stream
>yeah the new guns aren’t as good as the old shotguns with their buff but they’re fun so it doesn’t matter
These are the retards the devs listen to

have they put out a video showing the personality options yet for the arbites?

>>528361665
Do the push attack into light heavy light

>>528361970
>new shotguns can now kill specials easier and have a bunch more ammo which makes them more ammo efficient than the arbites shotguns
>old shotguns get better blessings so you can imitate the arbites shotgun with the lawbringer while having much more ammo

>>528362052
https://youtu.be/qnwSPPVg0DM?si=o5i_V6xbu14NQXN-&t=1013

>>528362165
They seem to need two shots to kill a special most of the time, which the old ones did already.

>>528362180
thanks.

>>528362161
No point. Only wastes stamina and time
You just need a special hit on the shield that chains into the light overhead

Unfortunately a playtester friend told me that MMT is broken with the latest mission board. In other words, if you've been using this mod to pick missions more deterministically, or to play solo, the upcoming mission board improvements will ruin it.

>>528363653
meh, I only used it to cheese the last event

Zealot gets +86% damage with full martyr and other talents while relying crits and duellist

Arbites gets 131% combined damage boosts from just playing normal and then you add the skullcrusher damage bonus

>>528364162
Doesn’t get resist death and the crazy attack speed buffs though. Zealot still looks a bit better than arbites

>>528364162
Psyker still does more damage

>>528364531
Does anything do as much damage over a mission than flame staff psyker?

>>528364702
Who ever mentioned flame? Psyker still does more damage from melee gameplay.

>>528364318
Arbites can get 30% attack speed
>>528364531
>>528364739
And the ogryn does more than the psyker

>>528364739
>>528364531
They're fixing perilous combustion proccing off itself with the new patch.
Genuinely gigantic nerf, but the average retard doesn't understand the value of flame stacks proccing perilous combustion, so it's one of those things they can nerf without a community aneurysm

>”””content creators””” helped balance the arbites
>which means if anything is in need of a buff they’re going to dig their heals in and say no because they don’t want to be wrong
Bravo

Dueling sword should be a vet only weapon, they can’t damage ramp it anywhere near as hard as zealot or psyker.

>>528364861
The tree is littered with the number 15
Like almost no talent gives you more than 15% damage for some reason

>>528365050
That's fine because you get so many of them and they are active almost all the time

>>528365050
>gain 15% of something by for 5 seconds after something
Nearly every fucking talent

>commissary still hasn't received any updates
why is this thing even in the fucking game lol

>>528365680
Because removing it would require more effort than simply letting it rot

>>528365283
it works for world of warcraft so it works for darktide too

>reginald: actually martyr is really good and i can play it while barely ever going down
>brings a martyr build to havoc 40 and eats shit

>>528365680
the chinks that make the cosmetics only work on premiums because they get royalties

>>528364318
>Doesn’t get resist death
Every time I get netted when I have martyr on and resist just makes me lose all health chunks to corruption damage and killing me for good I question it's value
>the crazy attack speed buffs
It does though? Maybe even more than zealot.

>>528366565
Source? I want to see him eat shit as much as possible. That guy is a shitter and doesn't know it. He's constantly talking about how "terrible thing is actually le good you are just le bad"

>>528366565
I'll never forget the time the playtesters decided to do an all-ogryn h40 and promptly spent 10+ hours eating shit in the first room over and over
I'm not saying they're not good and autistic, but they're good and autistic at the exact one thing they autistically hyperfocus on: high mobility knife/ds jitterbug gameplay

>>528366582
We’ll see, but from all i’ve heard the testers are saying zealot is still a bit stronger than arbites but better than vet and psyker (ogryn is of course over powered as fuck so no point comparing it).

>>528366764
He's probably streaming now
I'm watching the vamp stream and he's playing with reginald

>>528366831
I’m watching that too, i’m hoping it’s just the havok health buffs but the new shotgun looks a bit wanting. Doesn’t look bad but it seems to have about the same ammo as the bolter, and bolter looks like it would be doing a lot more.

>>528366797
This was before the ogryn buff to be fair

>>528366820
The impression I got from multiple is that a cracked out zealot playing at the top of their game can accomplish more but arbites is more comfortably strong like ogryn without being braindead broken. Both of them are head and shoulders above vet and psyker and should probably be the standard ogryn gets lowered to.

>>528366973
It was also before the h40 buff too though. I had absolutely no issue getting to h40 with ogryn at the time, the issue was just them not knowing how ogryn works at all

>>528366973
Ogryn did have a nice niche in old havok, taunting gunners by blocking them with the shield was very useful. Of course the rework makes them a lot more fun, they just need to lower their tankyness and the stagger power of light spam, probably increase the cooldown of taunt as well since it gets a bit silly

Watch how good I am at havoc 40 with my shitter build when Io comm with 3 actually good players

>>528367092
They need to do nothing to Ogryn except buff gauntlet, kickback and twink lugger, and nerf Rumbler's ammo. Also nerf confident strike

>>528367046
Yeah I think zealot and arbites are the goldilocks zone for class balance, I really hope the zealot mini rework doesn’t over buff the shit out of them like ogryn. Zealot just needs some buff to the two lesser used keystones, changes to the junk like top left of the tree, and the grenades to have better pathing like the ogryn rework so you don’t feel as locked into throwing knives. Vet needs some help though, especially since arbite is a very good shooting class.

>want to stop being racist
>ogryn still in the game
I just can't do it brehs...

>>528367253
Why nerf the blessing when you can nerf their superior built in version of it? Then if you want more toughness regen you can give up damage or stagger for it on your weapon. Ogryn absolutely needs nerfs, it makes the duelling sword look like a joke, ogryn fucking destroys non havok. They can tune havok down if it’s an issue, but ogryns power level right now is stupid. The shooty ult need buffs though

>one of the faggots in the Vamp stream talking about how he wanted to make Arbites way weaker
These faggots all deserve the rope. They only do this because they get it all for free. People that pay want a strong class and they just can't comprehend this.

>>528365680
They pushed it back to the release of Arbites.

>>528367092
>nerf their tankiness
Weapons such as the branx cannot survive a tankiness nerf

>>528367649
>way weaker
How the fuck is it OP compared to the other classes?

>arbiter is actually OP but we have only seen it being played by shitty content creators

>>528368019
Unironically because Fatshark prevented them from making Arbites weak. Just read what the youtubers on streams and playtesters on the discord say. They get a hard on for nerfs. If they had their way Arbites would be the weakest, I have no doubt in this. That same faggot on the Vamp stream said that his suggestions were very mild and weak and that Fatshark used them but made them way stronger than initially suggested. Rare Fatshark win

>>528367480
>Why nerf the blessing when you can nerf their superior built in version of it?
Because that is the only way ogryn can regen toughness, barring steady grip.
Ogryn's melee regen is perfectly fine where it is. You nerf it any more it might as well be useless.
At best nerf toughness from taunt.
And then nerf club damage by 15% and make their light attacks 10% slower. And nerf the light attack stagger by 20%

Also nerfing confident strike on ogryn is possible. Fatshark already has multiples of the same blessings in the game for different weapons and they have different values. Which is a sensible way of balancing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUEkwgxd4Aw
>fatshark gameplay

>>528367649
>they get it all for free
They pay far more than you'd think, they're basically Fatshark employees without a salary

>>528368506
Yep. They suck ass

>>528368635
Talking out of your ass?

>>528368506
>hi-intensy sedition
holy shit they are getting stronger

>>528368696
Don't think that exists

>>528368652
Wait you think they get paid?

>>528368771
You know they got deluxe Arbites for free? And also all the shop cosmetics because they are not available for purchase yet. What exactly did they have to pay FS?
Their videos are also advertisements. That one guy that uploads Darktide dialogue is literally uploading ads for the game now. Youtubers are uploading videos on their youtube channel, Reginald even says he was sponsored for it (duh) if you have any doubt they get paid.

>take a vet with chainaxe
>suddenly the game is 10x harder

>>528369140
The class that could have saved the chain axe can't even get the chain axe

Let that sink in

>>528368986
So you think getting 18 dollars worth of compensation is worth their literally hundreds of hours of playtesting? Have you never had a job? You'd make more than that in an hour in most econmies, even entry level.
They're literally laboring for free, they're not "getting shit for free" it's literally a pittance compared to how much time they're volunterring to help Fatshark for free.

why does everyone in /coopg/ want this game to be easy? gamepass?

>>528369254
Close friend of mine is a playtester for GTA 6 and he says it's the best job ever. He stays at home all day, travels whenever he wants and has sex with his twink boyfriend and gets paid for playing games literally anywhere. Wow, terrible job and life.
Sure maybe the indie swedish company playtesters don't get such luxuries but still. They got paid for playing games, as not paying 'laborers' would be illegal in a first world country I imagine.

>>528369202
Who knows. Maybe they'll expand the weapon pool if people bitch enough. It's literally just a table.

>>528369386
You're mistaken about one thing, many other companies actually employ and pay a salary to their playtesters. Fatshark does not. They're community volunteers who only get small rewards like free DLC for their hundreds of hours of labor.
It's not employment, but they're still defacto working for Fatsharks gain for free.

>>528351639
>the role his species his known for.
well. except stealing the poxwalkers.
>Fits the Reject theme
sure, im not arguing that. i just think it would be supremely gay compared to everything else we could possibly get.

>>528369202
How would arbites make the chain axe good? If even zealot can’t do it arbites isn’t. Also the chain axe is faginals favourite weapon which is why it’ll never be buffed because the devs actually listen to that contrarian retard

>>528369386
No offense but that sounds all made up and like he’s lying to you. Ask him for some proof or evidence of anything he’s saying, then get back to us if/when he provides.

>>528369758
LMAO why the fuck would I do that
Good one

>>528369756
The arbites would have the attack speed and damage required without using martyr and having to rely on crits

>>528369386
>sex with his twink boyfriend
giwtwm

>>528369756
>If even zealot can’t do it
Zealot can do it, Chainaxe is S+++ tier on aurics

>but on havoc...
you can't make every weapon viable on h40, it will never be possible without making them all feel the same, stop

>>528344247
Ogryn falls off in havoc 40 in the sense that he's pretty much on par with other classes there and has a unique role.
>>528344792
He's way too easy and braindead to play in anything lower than high havoc. Yes, other classes have easy builds, but they can't get away with making a billion mistakes like ogryn can. Only zealot arguably compares.
>>528344801
>>528345441
It's true that you need to be able to keep hitting something in melee, but that shouldn't ever be an issue. The only reason this should ever happen, if because your team is slow and retarded and refuses to keep up with the permanently moving playstyle melee ogryn demands. Keep up your attack speed stacks, keep your taunt cooldown low, and keep your toughness regen going by constantly moving. Taking cover is never an option, just slide into gunners and use the massive taunt radius to stop them from shooting you.
Also this doesn't apply to twin stubber builds because you not only regenerate stupid amounts of toughness while bracing, but obviously also just shoot them dead, while having emergency toughness regen by using PBB. Using it defensively hurts, but is sometimes necessary to keep you from losing most of your health. Although stubber builds require that you actually pay attention and use your gun correctly, compared to unga bunga light melee spam, so it's not quite as braindead.

>>528369920
They should just scrap the auric health buffs, then nerf the insane cooldown reduction a lot of classes get. There it’s more fun and more weapons work in havok

>>528369805
Just saying, I personally wouldn’t enjoy having a friend lie to my face

>>528369386
>They got paid for playing games,
Fatshark playtesters are unpaid.

>>528355224
no they, they just want a (hot) shortstack in the game. understandable but misguided. they're definitely going for votann if they want the meme shortman class.

>>528355026
Source? When does he say that?

>>528370440
Probably the Sefoni mission or whichever one it is where the abandoned Leman Russ is near the start and they talk about it being just there for the taking.

>>528369254
Do you have any idea what a hobby is? How much has fatshark paid you to play their games for hundreds of hours? You realize how much money you could have made if you'd been working like a good cog in the machine that whole time?

>>528367416
what sane person would possibly want that

>>528369386
I’m pretty sure there’s a difference between playtesting for an incompetent borderline irrelevant Swedish company and play testing for arguably the largest video game developers in the world. I imagine the perks of being a Fatshark play tester extends to a free can of Surströmming and like maybe a trip to the sauna.

>>528370737
You ignore one thing though, even if they don't get paid, if they're just community volunteers then they only play as much as they want. They're not working for hundreds of hours, they're just playing the game the same as they usually would and then convincing Fatshark shape the game as they want it to be, which I am sure many of you envy.

>>528370556
I always liked that mission for that part alone honestly. Always gets me wondering about what a Battlefront-esque 40k game could look like…

>>528370834
Oh, then yeah I an agree with that. As long as we're not comparing material benefits.

>>528370576
You realize playtesting isn't just them playing the game for fun however they want like me, right? They have directed tests and need to do what Fatshark tells them to, and they're also volunteering to think up and write up feedback for free.
You're really retarded for trying to pull this one on me mate. Like it's hard to express how fucking dumb you are for missing the point this badly. If I buy arbites and don't like it, I'll just stop playing it. You know what playtesters had to do for the past 4 months with a likely far worse version of arbites? That's right, they HAD to fucking playtest it. And they are NOT getting paid for it. Get it through your thick fucking skull, retard.

>>528371128
Those guys would still be playing Darktide and typing in the forums what they want to happen. Playtesting for them just means they'll do the same as before, except they get to play exclusive versions and convince the developers to go through with their balance ideas.

so why is a shotgun now more powerful than a bolter

>>528371616
It isn't

>>528371683
you watching these gameplay vids?

>>528371721
Yep. It's still stronger

>>528371332
Yeah I'm sure they just enjoy their work and that's why doing it for free is fine

>>528371616
it isnt

>>528371616
The shotgun is just faster

>>528371950
Vet bros…

>>528371332
Here's the thing though, anyone intelligent knows not to do things he's good at for free. So all those playtesters are either stupid or not good at doing it. Which honestly is reflected in the way the game is balanced

>>528371950
How could the content creator cabal force fatshark to cripple my new main like this.

>>528372228
Touché

>>528371950
Lmao
That's just fucking stupid.

>>528371950
Where is this from?

>>528372395
Warhammer 40,000 darktide

>>528372228
I think a lot more companies are outsourcing testing out to "creators" and "community helpers" who are more than willing to work for $15 of in-game currency while they create their own clique and feel like cool kids in the community.

>>528372481
Who is the clip from

>>528372395
I got the video from a playtester on the discord

>>528372627
What are the play testers saying about the new shotguns? No way they compete with that right?

>>528372627
how many CP did this video got traded for

>>528371616
>>528372204
Vet with deadshot and either marksman's focus or focus target is still better at using the bolter overall, because you one-tap most important targets even in high havoc.
Not that this matters because shooting crushers is often retarded, but with marksman's focus, 2 headshots kill them in auric, and I believe 3 in havoc? Not sure what the breakpoints are at max stack pinning fire and with 25% rending, but that's not a particularly realistic situation anyway. It also one-taps reapers outside of havoc, where I believe it takes 2 shots but I haven't verified.
All of the above is only single shot crits. I'd fully assume arbites are better at magdumping it, as seen here >>528371950
I do wonder how good executioner's stance is at headshot sniping specials, but I doubt it compares to vet in that department. Not that it needs to, cops look power crept by design and have thrice the survivability of vet while being absolute monsters in melee on top of having either a dog or infinite pocket smiggers.

>>528371950
never understood the purpose of those videos, you're usually surrounded by cunts shooting you or bombing you while the boss vomits on you. It's like this tranner meme where he says he trains in the psykanium

>>528373419
bro it's two melee attacks and a magdump, this isn't some sort of stationary elaborate setup

>>528373449
which difficulty

The arbites shields should have gotten BM and skullcrusher but with a better thought out attack pattern than the slab shield

>>528373419
>you're usually surrounded by cunts shooting you or bombing you while the boss vomits on you
Only outside of havoc. In havoc, the psyker bubbles the beast to make its vomit useless, and then either zealot or ogryn control the horde away from you. Obviously the beast would have more HP in havoc, but the build in that clip would still erase over half of its HP in a single mag, and that's kind of crazy.

>>528373607
>expecting randos to do their job

>>528373567
You're asking what difficulty the video is on?

>>528373607
Also remember that most ogryns run taunt as well which can also give +25% dmg from ALL sources.
And the ogryn plays smart and takes agro, he can force the Burgle to expose its back to you so you can mah dump it.
It is entirely possible that you can do like 90% of a Burgles health in havoc with a single bolter mag

>>528373695
True, I mostly expect zealots to be complete drooling retards that are coping with denial of being a support class, but psykers reliably bubble beasts and ogryn tend to spam taunt anyway. Some players here actually made it to havoc 40 where the average IQ is slightly above 80, unlike the 20-30 range.

>>528373801
Yeah, that too.

>>528373290
Castigator's Stance you mean? It doesn't up damage by itself, you need to invest in a node to get +5% damage per special or elite killed, max 10 stacks. Says it lasts for 10 seconds but I don't know if it persists when the ultimate ends. It's actually a survivability and repositioning tool and not a killing ultimate.

>>528372873
approximately 2tb
very lucrative trading partners this discord

>>528373975
>Castigator's Stance you mean?
Yeah, that. Got my names mixed up.
What interests me is pulling bullets from reserve instead of mag, allowing for +5~6 shots before reloading if you're really good at timing the 1.5s internal cooldown or whatever it was. If ammo efficiency isn't a concern, this is even fucking incredible for the bolt pistol, since it's as good at sniping as the boltgun is, and the ammo thing always rounds up to 1.
Revolver is obviously also great for this, but has atrocious ammo economy, even if you can do crusher 1-tap memes with it.

>>528373975
The additional nodes for castigator looks pretty shit, but the ability it’s self looks good although you’re sort of locked in to taking the enemy marking keystone for some cooldown reduction. The deal damage is going to come from the Kruber bash, +25% damage for 6 seconds after a bash and the cooldown seems to average around 10 seconds with just its additional nodes. The old Kruber smash and blunderbuss is back

>>528374136
I see you sir got the knack for negotiation

>>528374139
Those aren’t free rounds, it’s taking them from reserves unfortunately so it seems so so. Okay for bolter I guess, might save you a reload now and then. But the damage buff on kill before it seems really shit, the duration should have been much higher, or the buff should last until your next use of castigators stance.

>>528374165
I'm a fan of the right keystone making your bash give you 25% strength too

>>528374139
Ngl the cooldown probably kills it for the weapons you'd want to use it on. Timing 1.5s on a 10 second ability is going to feel like ass, enough to not bother

Why are the arbites legs so skinny?

>>528374324
>Those aren’t free rounds
Yeah I'm aware, hence my concern for ammo efficiency with the revolver and bolt pistol.
>>528374393
Even if you don't time it well, that's still extending your mag by +4~5 as long as you keep popping heads with your bolter. That will make the difference of not having to reload the thing. It's also fucking huge for the revolver, if you can somehow feed its ammo.

Realistically, I doubt I'll end up using stance much. Kruber bash looks too fun and useful not to use.

>>528374346
Ah I misread then. I think the stance is going to be strong but I could see it being better to put the 2 points somewhere else

>not satisfied enough with the game's state to reward them with extra dosh
>the new powercreeping class is gonna require ammo and tencentshark nerfed the ammo on Havoc
>MFW my vet is gonna be in high demand

ALL PUPPETS

>>528374617
French faggot

>>528374617
Imagine the synergy of an arbites using the shock mine to lockdown a mega crusher pack, and a vet throwing a krak into it.

Hopefully we will finally stop seeing ranged zealots now that the arbites is coming
It's tankier than vets and a better ranged class than zealot

>>528374704
wouldn't they need to be packed human centiped-style for the karking kark to kill them all?

>>528374775
>Hopefully we will finally stop seeing ranged zealots now
Who the fuck does that? I almost never see them in my aurics, and when I do, it's the very rare bolter or recon las zealot that actually kills things. It's annoying when they zoom around and jew all the ammo away from the team, but they're not common enough for me to consider a phenomenon.

>>528374806
>>528374704
yeah nah the vet is just gonna stack uncanny to 5 then throw 2 shredders to kill the crushers with the skullcrusher debuff

>>528374905
yeah feels like the uncanny strike bug really shafted the kark. One a side not it's so fucking annoying to build some "exotic" vets with their tree since getting ammo aura means sacrificing some other nodes

>>528374806
The mine keeps them all close together, with the extra radius on a bolt pistol I think it would get them in one

>>528374992
Kraks shine on havok because the extra health means two shredders aren’t enough for most elites and the red buff means you really don’t want to soften a big group up. They really should buff kraks to a base capacity of 3 though

>>528375057
I still don't know if the boltpistol radius is a meme or genuinely useful apart from bleed nades, even on its own shots it barely looks like it makes a diff

>>528369756
zealot tree is worse than arbitrator tree
the only reason arbitrator isn't overpowered is that he doesn't have access to meme weapons like dueling sword, or any swords for that matter
when comparing performance with the same weapon, arbitrator will always be better

>>528374876
They are increasingly common
It's players who are too shitty to play the squishier vet and too shitty in melee, so they play zealot and basically just shoot everything

>>528375153
It’s good, not as good as the increased bleed radius on shredders but it’s still nice for kraks. Only really for havok or monster spam modifier memestorms.

>>528375231
Na, it doesn’t hit as hard as zealot. Zealots 50% increase to crits and weakspots alone make it hard to top. But the arbites hits really hard for the stagger power it also brings and the fact that many of its damage buffs are for both melee AND ranged

>>528375534
I've seen arbites doing FOTF tier damage with normal attacks

>reginald said he’s actively trying to pressure the devs to nerf lone wolfs cooldown to at least double
What a little fucking faggot

>>528376226
Why does he advertise this kind of beheavior? Also where did he say that

Btw arbites' true grit talent which limits the damage you can take does save you from crusher overheads in havocs

>>528376357
Vamps stream

>>528376357
>>528376226
I can vouch for this. He was in Vamp's stream where he embarrassed himself by dying a dozen times on Zealot and then logging off after making up several excuses for his shitter gameplay. I recall him and some guy saying that "shock mines with lone wolf are like a giga smite and I didn't expect that" to paraphrase, though I do not recall him explicitly saying that he wants it nerfed, but it definitely sounded like he disliked it heavily.
I hate that faggot. He constantly says that things need nerfing or that terrible things are fine and then he proceeds to constantly shit the bed during Havocs and get carried constantly because he only plays in comms squads. He says Veteran is overpowered. No doubt he is salty that Arbites isn't releasing as the weakest class.

>>528376514
speaking of them, does it OS you because of the dmg or because every attack applies corruption?
>>528376569
really impressive how discord and testing games for free foster this kind of people

>>528376551
Where he was eating shit and whining all the time?
>>528376569
>reginald: lone wolf isn't strong enough to justify not having a dog
>also reginald: lone wolf is too strong

So, does the shot revolver's cylinder visually expand if you take the mag size node?

>>528376664
I wish I was there when he was lurking here, I also remember a dude making a guide getting offended people clowned on him here

>>528376734
No. You also just load 5 rounds into the revolver and a 6th one appears magically
>>528376750
Reginald and hank would get clowned on hard af if they posted here

>>528376906
it was this guy

>boss spam modifier
>my laspistol is literally the only boss damage in the entire team
What causes this phenomenon?

>>528376961
I can't remember him

>>528376664
That’s the one
>tries evisorator after the buffs
>apparently the buffs aren’t great because he’s dying to trash
>n-no i’m only dying because my mods aren’t working
The absolute fucking state. You just know the contrarian little faggot is going to come out and say the buffs are enough and it’s a great weapon now, but I saw that shit in really time. Same retard says martyrdom isn’t underpowered too, while using it in havok and doing worse than a random.

>>528377013
People don't read
I keep having to tell people that they won't get ammo in melee maelstrom

>>528377115
>People don't read
But why? Literal children? Illiteracy? They're signing up for the hardest difficulty in the game that isn't havoc, is it REALLY too much to ask the bare fucking minimum?

>>528377103
He was literally just calling it a skill issue yesterday because people didn't think martyr was good

>shills get early access
>never see them in pub games because they all play in their inner circle

>>528377115
>match for melee fun times
>vet joins
>neat some ammo regen will be nice to have
>it’s a recon las build with no melee talents
Or my favourite
>psyker joins
>gun psyker
But that still better than a smigger jointing and ruining the fun.

>>528377223
Auric maelstrom is full of lvl 30 (+0)s
People hit 30 and instantly want to try the hardest thing they can

>>528377234
>no you don’t understand it’s really strong just don’t get hit
Such a smarmy rat

>>528377339
One of these niggers was level 2500+ and the other 400+. The only baby was some psyker that spent most of the mission dead and left halfway through, but that's par for the course.
This also isn't the first, and definitely not the last time I experience this retarded shit. I can at least understand not having boss damage during boss spam events, because you can miss the event and then accidentally quickplay into them, but fucking maelstroms?

>>528376226
I this is true, i will unsubscribe and tear down ALL the reginald posters in my room

>>528377312
>>528377458
And of course ranged veterans that don't even bring ammo aura
>>528377528
Lol

>>528377458
some people do be retarded.
that's just how it is

Nothing has done more to convince me that current havok is overtuned than watching these streamers that play for a living failing 9/10 games

>>528373419
The purpose of the video is to show dps.

>>528377676
Not every havoc mission is a 4 arbites meme build mission

>>528377782
Does shoot the burgle in the head actually do more damage? I always though the pimple was it’s only weakspot

>>528377676
And as long as they don't lose 10 out of 10 times, it's fine.
I don't want tide to turn into another Helldivers situation where the so called hardest difficulty becomes a joke.

>>528376961
Aren't his guides just pure objective in-game information? Not build guides or anything like that. What was the drama about that here?

>>528377846
The tail is the strongest, pimple is the weakest, head is the second weakest

>>528377223
A lot of people in aurics literally are only doing it to get carried. It's why I started havoc. Genuinely makes me seethe.

>>528377676
Well that's kinda the point of havoc 40. We shouldn't be able to farm it.
Besides most games I've seen have 1-3 bots. And the few full party games I've seen are 4x artbites. Imagine having a more balanced team with a bubble fire psyker, grenade vet, chorus ogryn, tauntgryn...

>>528377868
I agree, but also I wish ammo were more plentiful because gunplay is fun and Havoc is fun but Havoc discourages gunplay. That is the one change I would make.

>>528378004
>chorus ogryn
mental image makes me kek

>>528378004
>chorus ogryn
good morning i have not had my coffee yet. Imagine a chorus ogryn.

>>528378004
>imagine if havok is incredibly restrictive for what works and what doesn’t
I don’t have to, it already is and that’s a problem. They can’t balance the game to make everything work on havok, so they should change havok by bringing it down and then bring down the super broken shit too.

If you though the break down people had over the DS nerf announcement was bad just wait until they nerf ogryn, it’s going to be comedy gold. And it will happen

So, why do people say Taunt is the strongest Ogryn ultimate? I used it for about a month because I was unironically convinced by Mister Estrogen on it after a few videos. But then I switched back to Indomitable after eating shit a few too many times and it is so much more impactful than I remembered. Group of Crushers? I push them all back and bleed them out. Group of Bulwarks trying to push us out? I just press F and they're on the ground and easy pickings for the whole team. Get me some CR and I'm constantly on that. Why would I want them to aggro and chase me when I could just making them eat mud off the floor? Not to mention the survivability. I can reposition so much better. It's incredible. I legitimately started winning more. I get the value of getting aggro off your team but it still doesn't help stop the wave of Crushers and Bulwarks from pushing in and eating away our space, Indomitable seems to do that better.

>>528378352
The DS break down was honestly minor.
Insignificant even.

>>528378264
>they should change havok by bringing it down
then we're left with 2 auric difficulties. There's no point in that. And taking away people's super difficulty isn't very nice.
I think they should update auric instead, and make it more interesting. Maybe introduce Extra-HISTG, or make auric-maelstrom a bit harder.

>>528378371
I use charge almost always
Makes up for ogryn's lack of mobility and prevents you from ever getting boxed in

I however do use taunt in missions such as melee maelstrom where not having taunt will always result in my team's death

>>528378371
They're both great so there's nothing wrong with going with indomitable. You're giving up turbo toughness regen but you can manage that with skill.

>>528378371
Both are good, taunt just sends your tankiness over the edge if you can handle everything attacking you. Also nice for boss in adware situations since you can taunt it and take it for a walk away from the team. But yeah taunts main thing is toughness regen and the stagger from activating it, because it’ll have a near 5 second cooldown when things are hectic letting spam the ever loving shit out of it

>>528378371
Both are good.
Charge is good for mobility and makes you into a bloody battering ram.
Taunt makes you into an inmovable rock and also amps your and your teams damage.

>>528378371
>So, why do people say Taunt is the strongest Ogryn ultimate?
It gives you infinitely more control over enemy positioning than anything else in the game, is a relatively long ranged instant stagger that stops dogs and trappers before they can do anything (this can be important when you're surrounded by armor and can't dodge through them), forces bosses to target you, and can be built for damage amp.
I feel, and agree with, most of your points, mostly because taunt assumes the other retards can actually make use of taunt, which many don't.
>Group of Crushers?
Toothpick should be dispatching them in a matter of seconds, never mind grenades.
>Group of Bulwarks
Immolation grenade, flamer, flame staff should render them half dead by the time they start being able to move again after your taunt.
>Why would I want them to aggro and chase me
Because it buys a massive amount of breathing room for your bolter or plasma vet, lets the flamer zealot spam with impunity, and the psyker turn their brain off. With gold toughness you also regenerate so much that you become borderline invincible.
A single good zealot can make a world of difference in making the taunt ogryn valuable, and zealots are among the worst havoc players. I can say this with complete confidence, because I rarely lose when I'm on zealot, and have lost a worrying number of games on ogryn and veteran. I'm obviously willing to admit that not being amazing on those classes is a component, but it's hard to say it's all my fault when I'm regularly top damage and last to die.

time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..

>>528379272
fat hand typed that

>>528371950
I guess that settles it then. Shock Maul melee for relatively balanced movement, Skullcrusher, shock, and leaning into the skill tree. Bolter because Arbites boss damage kinda blows otherwise, and the Bolter is just useful in general. Retards couldn't even pull an Arbites version of Shocktrooper for shotguns. Obviously not a 1:1 but something that was a giant, "Hey, take this node, you fucking dipshit, it will make your shotguns strong as fuck." Fucking Swedes.

Anybody up for some damnation (EU) ? Vet bolter level 29, code 9967903677

>>528379401
I was really hoping for a shotgun exclusive “your shogun pellets apply a fuck load of brittleness” and some sort of ranged multikills grants ammo with a cool down.

>>528378371
Surprised no one mentioned that taunt disables flamers and snipers, as well as effectively being a get out of jail free card in awkward situations involving trappers and bursters. It also staggering reapers and gunners around you is great.

>>528379401
Arbites is a strong shotgun class because it gets the executioner shotguns and zealous dedication (crit buff on kill)

>>528379512
give me ten or 15 to finish a game

>>528379554
Yeah, I am genuinely shocked that despite the tree having a hilarious number of nodes they didn't think to put in a single one that is thematic with their use of shotguns. It's sort of wild.

>>528379685
Other anon here, we just got in a game

>>528379643
You missed my point. There isn't anything that's specifically shotgun focused, and if you look at the webm I am replying to, it doesn't matter how strong you think the Executioner Shotgun is, it'll never be as strong as that shit. Never, ever.

>>528373604
It should have gotten the Grail Knight Sword and Shield moveset.

>>528379698
The shotguns look and sound good but from all the gameplay i’ve seen they still seem like they need a bit more power, the low ammo long range one wasn’t one shotting specials. That seems like an insane decision to me. Special shells seem very weak for how limited they are too, they should regenerat at x melee kills or something.

>>528379698
>>528379554
I got you

>>528379772
You're right...
They should nerf the bolter

>>528380114
But I want to use the cool new shotguns not the old ones that sound like a fucking BB gun

>>528380254
Too bad!

the nuncio aquilla looks so shit, for such a pathetic radius and effect it should at least float along side you

>>528380114
How does Cleave help with this? I am pretty sure that Fatshark said that only Impact and Rending values affected punch through.

>>528380523
Impact knocks enemies over and rending reduces the effects of carapace abd flak armor. Cleave affects the bullet's ability to pass through enemies

>>528380489
The effect is fine, in theory. And you could even potential excuse the radius, but the cool down is what kills it. It should be a 30 second cool down, not a minute. What the fuck were the smoking with that shit?

>>528380619
Mm, I am pretty sure that Fatshark specifically said that they increased impact and rending values on the old shotguns specifically so that they could punch through now. Cleave is to help with hitmass in melee as far as I know.

>>528380489
I expected either that or a shorter cooldown. This isn't the game to stop in one place and reap the full benefits. Similar abilities - chorus and bubble - are either mobile or provide enough shelter you want to stop in place.

>>528380489
They should make it float towards you upon pressing F again during it being active.
That way it could retain the seemingly intended plant-at-chokepoint functionality while making it controllable.

>>528380725
>punch through
Is vague language. The actual name of a ranged weapons ability to pass through enemies is also called cleave

>>528380625
Looks like a design mess made my amateurs, half the effects are for standing off and shooting, but the main effect requires the enemy to be on top of it. With such a long cooldown you aren’t going to be wasting it on gunner shoot outs, you’re saving it for elite mobs and bosses to get the extra damage. Weird ability, can’t see anyone ever using it after a month.

>no skullcrusher on the new arbitties shmauls
Extreme sadness. Technically, since skrusher is a debuff, you can just follow the bully club ogryn around and get more damage with execution and high voltage or whatever but it'd be nicer to be self-reliant.

>>528380837
Ah, we are both half right. It's Cleave and Impact according to Fatshark. Not Rending and Impact.

>>528380625
>>528380839
Arbites' real ability is the smite mine on a lone wolf build

>>528380978
Impact has nothing to do with it though.

>>528381001
Unless the streamers get it nerfed before launch

>>528380867
I guess they figured it would just be too OP since the class is built around stagger. It apparently makes the stock shock maul they have access to crazy strong so I guess they didn't feel the need to put the blessing on the Arby specific mauls as well.

>>528380867
The problem there is that Bully Ogryn doesn't need you, so you're not gaining shit. And even if you did do this, the regular Shock Maul gets SC so the 40% flies up to 80%. You lose either way, it's a bad feeling and I hope that at least one of the testers is honest about this.

>>528380978
It's just cleave. We already know what the other stuff does. Stop arguing

>>528381008
I don't know what to tell you, man. I am just going verbatim by what Fatshark has said. Check the patch notes. Search for "Impact" and you'll find the note I am referring to.

*gulp!*

>>528381097
What do these words say?

>>528381095
I don't understand any of your points.

>>528381201
Pater noster, qui es in caelis,
sanctificetur nomen tuum.
Adveniat regnum tuum.
Fiat voluntas tua, sicut in caelo et in terra.
Panem nostrum quotidianum da nobis hodie,
et dimitte nobis debita nostra,
sicut et nos dimittimus debitoribus nostris.
Et ne nos inducas in tentationem,
sed libera nos a malo.
Amen.

>>528381296
Not what you think it does
It means that it has higher stagger (impact) and goes through enemies (cleave)

Everyone here with experience knows what it means. Learn to take our word for it

>>528381296
>significantly increased the ammo
>10 (ten) more shells
alright bro

Hit mass & cleave:
Every enemy has a specific hit mass, and every attack has a specific hit mass budget. In order to successfully cleave an enemy, an attack's (remaining) hit mass budget is required to be greater than the hit mass of the enemy that is to be cleaved. For example, against enemies with 1.5 hit mass each: If an attack has a hit mass budget of 3.5, it can cleave two of those enemies (spending 3 of its hit mass budget) and hit a third enemy; this attack, however, could not cleave the third enemy (only 0.5 of its hit mass budget remains) to hit a fourth one.

>>528381761
Noobs gotta learn
You can also get 75% cleave by pushing and that probably affects your guns too

The Final Day approaches

Someone asked for MF bolter build
Last point can go in rending, or demo team, or one motion, or close order drill, or even changing grenades to krak
Can also drop points from the keystone modifiers to grab the grenade upgrade.

>>528382308
can we have piss vision back one day... I just want to shoot things with the shoot things class...
(also it helps to fucking see in the fucking dark 90% of the time even before modifiers)

>>528382518
Piss vision would have to grant piss toughness on kill for that to happen.
Shout was a mistake.

>>528381324
Bully Club Ogryn already does fine enough clearing in melee that he doesn't need your help, so trying to leech off him for Skullcrusher isn't going to have the effect you think it will. On the other hand, if you bring a weapon that can stack Skullcrusher like the Bully can, then you are effectively not just doubling the speed of stacks on targets but also the number of them. The Ogryn will still be doing the majority of the damage, but he'll be able to do it after because the Shock Maul Arbites is at least throwing stacks on the target for him.

Does anyone know what time exactly on Monday Arbites will release?

>>528382697
You can however give the ogryn stagger for skullcrusher against monsters

>>528382585
>Piss vision would have to grant piss toughness on kill for that to happen.
Not him, but I did post an idea like that one time.
Basically the node highlights enemies and you and your team mates in coherency gain gold toughness based on what enemy you killed.
Like if you killed some chaff, you get like 2 gold toughness while killing an elite gives you 5 and killing an ogryn enemy nets you 10.

>>528379272
Win or don’t come back (I will rape your anime girls)

>>528382186
it would be the last one

>>528382789
Yeah, that is what I am getting at. If the Stagger on Weakspot hit was a blessing or something, then okay... There's utility there. However, since it's a skill point node and you get a weapon that also confers Skullcrusher it means you should take the weapon that gives you Skullcrusher.

>>528382931
I'd still pick it even if you didn't have skullcrusher

>>528383240
The regular Shock Maul or the Arbites Shock Maul? I am going to use the Arbites one in H40 and no one can stop me.

>>528383418
You'd pick the concussive talent with or without skullcrusher

>>528383495
I know, homie. What I am saying is that the regular Shock Maul (because it has Skullcrusher and you are always going to take Concussive) is the equivalent of giving a Giga Nigga serial rapist a second, forearm sized cock to fuck his victims with. The Arbites one still lets the rape happen (because of Concussive), but it lacks Skullcrusher which is what provides said serial rapist with a whole new dimension of bodily destruction capabilities on his victims. I assume you are Russian so I am using rape analogies to try and get my point across.

>>528383701
I am nordic, and not from one of those rapist infested nordic countries

>>528382308
the last point 100% goes into demo team and it ain't even a question, that's an S+++ tier node, I can't imagine not running it with how many times it's genuinely opened so much room

>>528384336
It depends on where you're taking the build. Demo team is a must have in havoc, but I don't even need grenades that often in aurics.
Also in havoc, all marksman's focus modifiers are a little questionable. Camouflage is deceptively good in havoc because you might not be able to get easy stacks otherwise, and being at max stacks gives a lot of ammo efficiency. It's also points you're not investing in grenade spam.

>>528384336
>>528384464
Remember when demolition stockpile used to refill grenades for the entire team?

>>528384547
This should be an aura somehow. Actual competition for Survivalist? Very small chance proc though.

>>528379512
ok so first you download the requirements of this one https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/246?tab=description

then you install the one above, making installing the next ones much handier.

the QOL ones usually are this one:
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/14

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/18

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/68

Do note each time you got a patch (so every two weeks for the new piggies) you gotta click that thing again. Also note that mods like numeric Ui tend to crash ur game after a new big update because they changed some files. Click enable mods again to disable all ur mods until they are fixed.

>>528382308
puncture pinning fire?

>>528384757
Good list. That's really the necessary mods.
Also consider Markers Improved All-in-One, it makes icons much more readable through color-coding. FullAuto if you like using the Infantry Lasgun, does as said.
True Level shows everyone's true levels past 30. Who Are You shows people's platforms and Steam usernames. PingMonitor shows your ping on Tab. Scoreboard is a scoreboard.
MultiBind lets you have more keybinds for any action.
Feels like shit that should've just been in the base game.

>>528385050
Unyielding, carapace, surgical, pinning fire. Crits matter for certain breakpoints.

>>528385050
NTA but I'd recommend shattering impact + cavalcade for best boss killing
every other blessing is mostly inconsequential for killing non-monstrosities really
pinning fire will probably be better on Arbites because of Concussive but otherwise it is entirely worthless

>>528384757
>>528385149
Thanks a lot, friend. I'll definitely install those

>>528385279
iirc pinning fire stacks allow you to hit a couple bodyshot breakpoints, as well as headshot breakpoints in havoc. Killing bosses shouldn't be your job there, and if it is, just bring kraks. Shredders are "better" if your team is too stupid to clear hordes and keep your ass safe, but krak grenades ARE good and very undervalued.
You can two shot crushers with crit headshots.
You shouldn't even need boss killing blessings outside of havoc anyway.

>>528382759
No, as far as anyone knows they haven’t released an official time of release. Which is… usual Fatshark incompetence that I would expect

>>528385519
On the launcher there is a countdown
On the steam page there is a countdown

>>528370440
metalfab
https://youtu.be/XFJrIprfv7g?t=23

Do we know whether the current player character voices have new and special lines for talking to the arbeetus? I've only seen a bunch of dead bots or cop-only runs, and that doesn't bode well.

>>528385961
the russian ogryn has some killing streak shouts for space cop, female scottish zealot called grim paul blart an ogryn and it was not a new dialogue line or intentional

>>528386247
Yeah I saw the zealot calling the cop an ogryn bug and thought it was funny, but I haven't heard any other voice lines. Please post a link if you remember what video the killing streak shout was from.

>>528355026
tanks don't usually fit inside habs

>>528386430
Same once. Twice during the fatshark gameplay video most recently posted.

>>528386470
Thanks, I'll watch that again and pay attention.
>can't quickly scrub through to find it because they disabled subtitles

Is Nuncio Aquilla overhyped as fuck? It doesn't even boost damage.

>>528386570

>>528298268
>>528298947

>>528386673
Oh, that saves me some time, thanks a lot. I was about to become a doomer at the lack of new voice lines.

>>528386668
actually I lied, enemies take 15% more damage IF they are in the field. Kinda trash number for how restrictive the field is

>>528386668
>overhyped
By whom? All anyone talks about are the bash and doomguy mode.

>>528386668
The Live, Laugh, Lex -drone needs repositioning options.
It's just going to fall off hard in the higher difficulties where engagements tend to involve copious amounts of falling back and/or circling.

>>528387050
>doomguy mode
It's Robocop

>>528385396
also if you are a ratclick player there's a mod which dodges on double direction tap

>>528385961
https://youtube.com/shorts/5I3zt-VO8uY?si=yjk5pF3e-bzRL7Nl This guy has a couple of short clips showing non combat dialogue between the classes/personalities

>>528387612
Male maul is pure edge kino and I will not accept any other voice.

>>528387952
I'm really hoping they throw in a "YOUR CRIME IS YOUR FOUL EXISTENCE, YOUR SENTENCE IS DEATH!" throwback from vermintide 2

>BLOCK-FODDER
is arbeatdese talking about bulwarks, or just hab block dwellers in general? I noticed only male maul shouts this shit and it's never clear what the queue was.

>>528387612
>You served the lex, then betrayed it. You are worthless.
I really hope that's a voice line directed at psyker cop.

>>528388367
LEEEEEEX

>>528388276
I think it's the "enemies in cover" line. But probably refers to hab block dwellers in general.

My Beloved told me you're a turbo dick-sucking faggot.

>>528378004
>fire ogryn
>grenade ogryn
>fotf ogryn
>taunt ogry

>>528388367
desu, it doesn't make much sense.
In the small backstory the Savant is given, it's very obvious that the one who got betrayed was the psyker and they were betrayed by the very enforcors they worked with.
>"I should have known the enforcers would not tolerate me forever. My skills, they valued, but my nature? That they despised. I was a convenience. One who could glean truths they could not. Who could follow a trail of evidence like a shining path when all others remained blind to its existence, and all of it asking nothing in return. That I brought closure to the grieving and the guilty to the penitent's pyre was my reward."

>>528387612
done more in seconds than fatsharks entire blogpost about the voices.

>He's still getting carried by Demonie
Gambate...ChocoB-Sama...Gambate....

>>528387612
>I did not say that.
kek

Finally... I am free from the farts

ayo hol up... can I craft a 500 weapon with a level 1 char? havent played the early game since release

>>528389857
Psyggers are supposed to report themselves, so even if he was working as a cop, he was breaking Imperial law by enforcing the local law illegally, and that's not okay.

>>528390160
He really lacks a bit of situation awareness

>>528390540
level 4 character

>>528390670
It obvious she got the eye lid surgery and he hasn't.

>>528390818
well yea thats a korea thing not a japan thing

I thought korean and jjapanese really hated eachothers

>>528390550
>Psyggers are supposed to report themselves
Yeah, sounds cool in theory, in practise non-sensical and stupid. Why? Because Imperial citizens are all uneducated at best and completely retarded at worst.
Also if you really want to go into the whole "they should've reported themselves", the actual enforcers should have actually enforced the law and taken the psyker to the Blackships themselves because they are literally the police on Atoma.
So anyone who actually betrayed the lex, were the retarded enforcers who just snagged up a loyal psyker who was happy to work in the law enforcement and then exploited their skills for work.
And finally when they did betray him and kick him out, they just took them to regular ass prison ship which was on route to a penal colony. When in reality these idiots should've brought them to one of the Blackships instead.

In general, this shit is just stupid and badly written. Which isn't new for Fatshark, especially Darktide.
It's just dialogue that's meant to sound edgy and grimdark because Maul is the asshole personality in the game. Just how like the Loner is the asshole personality for psykers.

>>528391167
they do but I've found its rarer in the gaming/streamer scene.
koreans like to weeb while japans appreciate them for their superior gaming skill.

>>528391229
All the enforcers are at fault in the Arbites' eyes. The Savant is rather educated compared to the other Rejects, and knows about the local law, so he has no excuse to not know Psykers are supposed to be rounded up.
As for Black Ships, they don't come around very often since they're crewed by the already rare Sisters of Silence, and even more so with the Great Rift, so rounding up psykers on the local Arbites ship until the Black Ship can come pick them up would be standard procedure. And if any warp shenanigans happens, it's on board a ship and not on the planet.

i've consumed too much arbites media
i'm bored now
admech class when?

>>528391592
Yeah this was the worst marketing campaign ever.

>>528391592
so another class that is shooty and tanky. hmmmm

Is the exterminator shotgun going to be arbites exclusive?
I plan on buying the class regardless or not, but it's fucked that the only shotgun that is actually 'good' instead of 'usable' is going to be a paid dlc

>no executioner shotgun
>no dominator maul
>far more restricted weapon selection than any other human class
>all three keystones are just rehashed versions of existing ones
>one of the combat abilities is a charge
we're going to look back on arbites as being a really shit addition

>>528387161
>robocop
It's terminator

>>528391721
If it's tanky to compensate for a lack of toughness regen which Zealot/Ogryn/Arbites has it would be fine, and I expect an AdMech class to lean into summons like turrets or servitors, or their cybernetics rather than direct combat.

>>528391891
Dogs are good and completely original

>>528391880
they reworked the other shotguns with the patch that is going live when arbites does
people are already using combat shotguns to mulch bosses

>>528391965
too bad not a single space cop you see will have one

>>528391891
I have the feeling they're just testing the water with that class

>>528392034
>too bad not a single space cop you see will have one
This thread severely overestimates min-max autism over heckin' doggo faggotry and completely undervalues the opportunity cost of the dogless node. Dogs will be everywhere. Anyone who wants to cram their lexmate into a vet shaped hole will get bored in a month and play a different class.

Trying to figure out if I'm missing any particularly high value nodes for a dog + bolter build. I'm only going out of my way spending 2 points for +75% cleave for a total of +100%, I sincerely doubt much more melee investment will be necessary, but I guess I'll see?
Think: Special sniping with surgical. Dog veteran. Obviously still uses skullcrusher on melee.

>>528392204
Drop the pounced specialist and pick the +10% ranged damage talent

>>528391891
Yeah I'll have fun with my ratling (female locked)

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

>>528391891
>executioner shotgun
We got it. It just isn't scoped because that's stupid, but unfortonately it doesn't have homing shots either

>Veterans won’t be left out for too long. They’ll be receiving more next year.

>>528392608
The whole team will have fun with your ratling

>>528392762
>we got it
>except in name, appearance, and function

>>528392770
>next year.
yeah and it's not gonna be january
vets can look forward to winter 2026

>>528392762
Arbeetus exclusive shotguns are the Exterminator shotgun >>528317583, not the scoped Executioner shotgun

>>528392869
Executioner Shotgun Mk VI soon

>>528392869
The mk8 variant is the long range variant.
And no, fatshark is never adding snipers to this game. The long-las has been in the gamefiles for years at this point and they still haven't added it.
And there's a reason for it, snipers just don't function well in a game like this. Many people who have gotten the weapon customization mod have tried putting functional scopes onto the helbore and other guns and everytime the result is just "it fucking sucks and doesn't work well due to tunnel vision".

Unironically Fatshark did make a perfect sniper for this game, it's the fucking revolver.

>>528393318
>it's the fucking revolver
*single stubber

>>528393553
No that's the perfect marksman rifle.

>>528393318
It's a shotgun ultimately, they don't need it to be a sniper rifle like a long las, and they can take off the scope if needed. It can still be unique by being a drum mag fed shotgun (high capacity, faster reload) with much lower damage falloff. Give it better headshot magnetism to tagged enemies if you want it to be 'homing'.

>>528393803
More of a sniper rifle than the revolver will ever be

>>528391891
They could've came with some more unique weapons but we just got different flavors of maul and shotgun. Here's hoping they new shit alongside Vet down the line. Going off tabletop wargear, the two can field grenade launchers and heavy stubbers.

>>528392204
looking at how this tree is shaped that's insane how much leeway it gives compared to the other classes

>>528394107
Fatshark is learning

>>528394224
STRANGELY it only applies to the dlc class

>>528392515
Yeah, good point. Chances are I won't have the pounced specialist damage when a monstrosity shows up, and I only lose 5% damage for a more practical permanent effect.
I guess I could also drop a point somewhere and take the health gate crutch, since it's right around the corner. Allahu dogbar would be the easy choice, and probably will be while farming penances, but I'm sold on the smigger mine being the best (and the entire reason for why lone wolf is good, even if I'm not using it here).

>>528394253
they'll fix zealot...one day....one day.....

>>528394340
I just want these cunts to bake the ammo aura into the vet by default

>>528394253
And the ogryn

>>528394253
Strangely it gets better with every new talent tree because Fatshark has a learning disorder. Cry pay2win if vet/zealot doesn't get similarly unfucked.

Replace the shitty ass +0.75% reload speed aura with grenade replenishment aura

>>528394535
>reload 15% clip size with elite kill, 3s cooldown
There, reload aura fixed

>auric is just difficulty 5 now, no longer appears as a separate, "optional" difficulty
your aurics are about to get filled with shitters and damnation is about to become unplayable

>>528395021
>become unplayable
Maybe for you. Me? #icarry

>>528395021
And nothing changes.

>>528395117
why are you carrying difficulty 4 out of 5

>>528395021

>>528393553
Note how with those none of them have scopes on them meaning you have no blind spots.
Also one of the big reasons why they are usable at all on ogryn purely because he has steady grip and innate damage reduction, meaning he can trade shots with gunners, shooters more easily.
Despite this single stubbers are still not super common on melee ogryns. When I see other ogryn players 9/10 they are a melee ogryn and their ranged is either a kickback, rumbler or ripper.

>Ogryn joins
>Biggest_Chungus
Really

>>528395263
>toughness while aiming
>damage resistance while aiming
>can push lesser enemies off himself just by dodging at them
>is tall enough to aim over enemies
>gets +50% crit damage talent and a guaranteed crit sniper rifle
The ratling is bigger than expected

>>528395021
>malicelets now heresylets

O_O

>>528395903
Rannick and Morrow handled a genestealer infestation prior to the game, which saw 3 Mordian regiments destroyed.

>>528395604
Behold sniper ogryn build.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f37571e-a209-4fba-850a-8a1195ae01da/sniper-ogryn-2

You'll be face tanking gunners and snipers without issue.

>>528396161
I'd do this instead with a pickaxe
The taunt is good, but you don't want every enemy attacking you while you aim

>>528395903

>>528396652
My jeans!

>>528396652
Vile jeanstealers!

>>528396025
>3 Mordian regiments destroyed.
ELF? EEEEELF!

>>528396652
give them back
I'll MAKE you give them back

First time playing left 4 dead and my first game on normal i get several rushers. Managed to kick one but fuck these faggots are annoying. Why do they have to come into a game on normal and just shit up the place? No time to explore and loot or do anything. Just run constantly through the map

zealot heavy evis always felt like a wet noodle

>>528396930
1 more day
Trust the plan

>>528328598
Wokeslop. Why would i play that when there are dozens of good NORMAL coop games?

>>528396910
why would you play a game plagued with slavs?

>>528396930
That's because after target number 4 it literally was. It's funny that people will be grateful for this change instead of asking why this horrible decision was the case for 3 years.

>>528396930
What's the best weapon for melee zealot ? Relic blade ?

>>528396537
Take FNP instead for maximum face tanking. And take Payback Time over Beat Them Back, PT applies to both malee and ranged damage as well.
Slam isn't as needed due to ogryn stamina regen being pretty good naturally and ammo stash on achlys isn't 100% necessary in aurics.
I'd argue this is the ultimate sniping build.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f375c1b-a40a-4cba-a11f-e5d9fa37c963/snoiper-gryn

>>528397076
The horde clear was still decent and will probably be insane now. It hit like a wet noodle because the damage was kinda low and people use retarded blessings. Now the eviscerator is getting big damage buffs

>>528395903
I wouldn't worry about it.
Genestealers will probably happen as a faction but who fucking knows when that actually happens.
I want to say we'll get them this year in December, but I already know it's gonna be some dumb useless shit instead that nobody asked for, like Mortis.

>>528397223
The eviscerator soon
1 more day. Trust the plan

>>528397319
Both damage buffs but also unfucking the cleave.
So Rampage will be feeling extra nice.

>>528397487
And shred. Especially with duellist and the significant weakspot damage boost

I can finally stop using the relic blade. Yeah it was cool for a while but I don't fuck with the moveset and the power mechanic is annoying to manage.

>>528397453
Better not lie to me br0

>>528397898
Very easy to use
Crazy horde clear
Good and simple blessings that play into the zealots strengths
Top tier monster and voidshield damage
Greatly improved carapace damage

It really is the jack-off all trades

>>528397349
>I wouldn't worry about it.

>>528397898
read the news

Demonie's Execution Order arbys footage is making me full of hope for the dog.

>>528399030
what

>>528399030
buy an ad

>>528399030
Yeah it seems p good. You just have a gorillion stacks since there are so many elites in high diffs so you just have full bonuses all the time.

>>528399030
The dog is without a doubt good
My biggest disappointment was the fact that it doesn't cause bleed against monsters

>>528399030
Why does this general keep talking about literally whos

>>528399326
no one relevant plays Darktide meaning the only ones willing to work for FS for free are the bottom of the barrel

>>528399518
>no one relevant plays Darktide
Yeah no shit, but you parasocial fuckers autistically latch onto literal nobodies even by darkshite standards

So this is grimcop's only ammo economy node, right? I guess technically having 25% more ammo means your ammo pickups are also 25% larger.

>>528399754
The mag size node technically applies as well.
First mag's extended size is free.

>>528399906
+1 ammo

>>528399951
+3 if you're a boltgunner.

>>528400127
Having a 50% bigger "magazine" on the DBS is also good

>>528399636
wdym you

Obesefish should add the option to disable bots in PRIVATE games

>>528400323
Does it shoot all three barrels with alternate fire then?

>>528400448
Just 2

>>528399754
You just know it didn’t get any ammo management stuff because of the faggot youtuber fatshark listen to

>>528401058
>invalidating veteran entirely
Piggy is already veteran with a dog, no need to kill the poor karker

>>528401273
Ogryns have ammo management stuff

>>528397349
My hope/cope is that they do something with the second hive city and genestealer cults before the end of this year. That leads into the 2nd new class being introduced but know Fartshart's work ethics it looks a bit grim.

You just know arbites doesn't have laser eyebeams and a 15 inch dick because of the youtuber that haunts my dreams.

>arbeetus gets +75% cleave on push
>arbeetus maul sweeps are started with a push attack
I see what they did there. I see it. They were cooking with that one no cap

>>528402019
A moveset that actually makes sense for once?

>>528401639
this but unironically
a 25% boost to ammo pickups is more than zealot has so I'm not sure why anyone is complaining

>>528399326
Hello, welcome to copeg. Feel free to ask for build recommendations or clarifications for the admitedly obscure game mechanics.

if I buy shaggy and scooby tomorrow, are they immediately at level 30? I see the previews and they're probably just on a dev build but I want to make sure.

>>528403125
No.

>>528403125
Ahah, no.

>>528401573
>Genestealers vs anything but Space Marines in terminator armor.
Thats a stupid fucking idea. Go play Space Hulk if you want genestealers.

>>528403210
Retard.

>>528403184
>>528403190
RIP, thanks for the quick answers. hate grinding levels

>>528402161
They skibidi cooked with this one

>>528401573
>picrel
true story

>>528403210
Pfft.
I've killed Daemonhosts, you know.

>>528403210
Are you the autocannon autist?

>>528401573
>Swagger discovers an abandoned Baneblade manufactorum in the 2nd hive (don't ask him how)
>Hadron wants it badly and orders Kharib to gather as many Admech forces to retake it
>problem is the 2nd hive is full of genestealers
>since it's also bad if genestealers find out about the Baneblade factory, Rannick allows Hadron to use the Rejects to retake the manufactorum, or at worst destroy it so the heretics or genestealers can't have it

>>528403484
No, but I support his autism.

>>528403541
I hate you, your people and everything you stand for.

>>528403210
My dude, Terminators can easily kill Genestealers not just the other way round, Genestealers still have to rely on zerg rushing to kill them. They are just Xenomorph ripoffs after all.

>>528403737
Based. Fuck those retards

>>528403210
>nyoooo, the heckin' rejecterinos can't handle some dudes bald dudes with third arms because...they just can't, okay?

Can you sic the dog on non-elite, non-special enemies, ie basic bitch shooters, or do you have to hope he's going to do so on his own?

>dog command on double ping so you preserve your ability to ping normally
>dog command on single ping so can just command him around instantly
which way, officer man?

OMG MY GOOK QUEEN IS BACK

>>528404687
Double.

>>528404754
oh shit, nihao

>>528404687
Single ping. Why would I ping something I don't want to be fully focused? Nothing in this game should require delegation on the level of
>dog: kill target A while team kills target B (which team is too stupid to know to kill on their own)

>>528404754
who

Favorite Darktide OST? For me its a hard choice between these two
https://youtu.be/4-LklISf7Bc?si=0wWIU72-lnNXE0Cl
https://youtu.be/6srYQsDfcCY?si=V_dciRPryum4cb_Z

>>528404339
im 90% certain you can't, since you currently can't mark them. They could override that limitation for arbites but i doubt it

>>528404754
Damn they really gave the early access to anybody with a youtube account.