>Hard mode Nightlords informationhttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/the-everdark-sovereigns-have-emerged-elden-ring-nightreign
>Nightreign official wiki and guides, beginner/advanced tips and trickshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/elden-ring-nightreign/wiki
>Latest Nightreign patch noteshttps://en.bandainamcoent.eu/elden-ring/news/elden-ring-nightreign-patch-notes-version-1013
>Nightlord resistances charthttps://files.catbox.moe/e24o74.jpg
>Main Information Documenthttps://rentry.org/erpasta
>Character Plannershttps://eip.gg/elden-ring/build-planner/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Op36P7gdVMkPzFQX6OsjZcfyUjdGOj7Cjk9qFAVj-U/edit
>Interactive Maphttps://mapgenie.io/elden-ring/maps/the-lands-between
>Group Passworderg
>Touch Bloodstain: >>528313107
Lore discussion time:
Who is the Collector?
What do they want with the Sigils?
What does their symbol signify?
Why did they set up shop literally in the last place anyone would look?
first for MY and only MY wife, Duchess.
Reminder that the board jannies nuked an entire thread because a cheater got mad that nobody liked him.
how do i get better at playing the worst class in the game
>>528341859 (OP)>still no nightreign doc on the OPdead game
>>528342009Don't know, don't care, I'll wait for a 15 hour long vatividya video talking about that piece of wood
>flying dragon of the hills
>literally refuses to stop hugging/landing on top of the hill
>>528342009Is this a good move?
>>528341770>biggest bars, most forgiving of mistakes>broad stats to use any weapon you want>safest class>ult is just a better Rev ultI don't know what to tell you man, you're just bad if you cant win on him.
>use ult to interrupt adel's autistic screeching fit into spastic lightning mode
>he just immediately does it again
>>528342205it does literally nothing
>>528342205no, it does literally nothing except change the icon
Ironeye x recluse = INSANE kino
>>528342205isnt it just a visual change
>>528342205>give the bugman a pendant only for him to break it and give it back to youwhat do you think
>>528342242>>528341959Unfortunately for you anon, i can play just fine on any other character, clutches and Nightlord nohits included
The bird just perplexes me, getting his will always be counterproductive to me
>>528342252you bought your team about 8 seconds of extra damage
>>528342087Just use two daggers and stack status effects. Your dodge doesn't break your attack chain so effects that proc on the end of a chain are decent on her.
Do we know yet if everdark adel has the same resistances that normal adel has?
>>528342431now this is truly freshly baked bait
update: my normie friend has bought the game and will play it as his first ever soulslike despite me advising against it. hell start playing later today and doesn't want to play with me at first because he doesn't want me to carry
i'll post another update when he beats the first boss
>>528342345>only two arms, so less doll joints>no hat>no spectral face that can actually show emotionRevenant is not even in the same league
Thanks, lads. God playing with /erg/ is so much easier than randos.
>>528342531I justified all of these the first time I posted it, it's legit.
>>528342546cry about it bitch
>>528342546you should play with him, it's not carrying, it's doing it the intended way
>>528342258incredibly autistic content lmao wtff
What makes ironeye so incredible?
>>528342546>will play it as his first ever soulslikei can't even imagine. he will have no idea what the fuck is going on
>>528342546>he doesn't want me to carryYou already told him about erg
>>528341859 (OP)Anyone have better relics loadout for their Guardian?
>>528342681Please explain duchess below revenant
>>528339569those last 3 what the fuck man
>>528342078nobody cares you attention whore
stop trying to make yourself an e-celeb
>>528342742no fp cost ranged attacks, and that's all it took
Duchess mains sound off! What was your last victory?
Mine was against regular Adel after both teammates were 3 bars on the ground. Dagger chain replay got him while I dodged away.
>>528342742Constant ranged Damage
Extremely mobile
Super ifame
Long range Ult
Ult that staggers pretty much
debuff that increases party damage and does a stagger
2/3 tempered savage deviljho
Somebody come help my friend whose kinda new and at work on the steam deck beat gaygoat
I promise Im a good player and I'm telling him where to go so we dont gotta worry hes gonna play archer anyways
>>528342784Rev is just extremely inconsistent and extremely loot dependent. You can have good games on her and even carry rarely. She's just low tier.
There is literally nothing Duchess does that another character doesn't do better. There are no redeeming qualities to this class. Some people post about popping off with her, but it's not the character it's the loadout. Get two status daggers and spam them and watch the enemy blow up, okay half the roster can do that with the exact same equipment. The restage is the only thing she has going for her, and that's just repeating better characters successes.
How does Miyazaki get away with more bare feet in a game he didn't even direct?
Does the position of director necessitate a foot fetish?
>Main game
>Player picks the easy mode build
>Mocked and belittled with "you didn't actually beat the game" posting
>Nightreign
>Easy mode Wyldersissies and Ironlets have the gall to flame the honest and sovlful hardworking Nightfarers that aren't broken
Face it chuds, you're basically using the Mimic Tear equivalent. You should be kneeling before your Guardianbulls and RevenantGODS for being high skill players that earn their wins.
>>528342898i just played two games with a duchess who made it her mission to slaughter every mob she saw, ~150 kills per expedition
All revenant posters should let everyone else know when they arenโt searching for a game so we can play
>>528342974built for BIC (big iron cock)
>>528342225You can see Rya's nipple
>>528342974During pregnancy breast weight can increase by almost 3 lbs
>>528342993SOMEBODY COME KILL GAYGOAT (EB)
IM CARRYING ANYWAYS DONT WORRY
PLEASE I JUST SWALLED A MOUTHFUL OF VODKA IM FEELING GOOD
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>>528343012>inconsistent support is better than consistent support because...uh...that's just repeating better characters successes.So that's why the speed run teams always have Ironeye for marks, Recluse for big dammies and duchess as amplifier and backup caster...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nightreign/comments/1lgg9c6/yall_forgot_to_tell_me_nightreign_was_a_horror/ holy fuck
>>528343061>Guardian>high skill>earn their winsYou contribute 15% total dmg on average against a Night Lord and pray your teammates can carry your deadweight, worthless ass
>>528343323I need to make dinner, though
>>528343212you will see all the cool art I came across while browsing xitter and you will like it
>people talk about ongbal a lot
>not interested in seeing someone play the game like that
>get sent link by someone else
>see name
>learn he's Korean
>now suddenly brain is interested
Hm
>>528343012>makes whole team invisible to let them get their big dicks out and in the bosses face>rewinds time after they're done to do it againDunno, seems good enough to me
>Why would anyone play _____ when they could play ______?
Because it's fun you autistic retards
33 min flawless Healstor run, literally nothing went wrong, no deaths, level 15, 7 flasks, we had time to fucking idle before the last 2nd night boss we did so good, holy shit
if the Recluse or Raider is reading this, you are skilled, you are based, you are godly and I hope everything goes well for you in this game and every other game
picking revenant is like being that type of retarded nigger that picks the subjectively worse class in a MMO that has less utility less dps less QoL and feels worse to play that the devs will not buff anytime soon while there is another class that plays almost the same and is better and also looks better in every single way. shit like this, picking the significantly worse class, makes pugs only worse
we should have a dps-meter so we can point and laugh at the damage Revenants are not doing compared to us Recluse players.
the devs should add enrage timers to Nightlords just so Revs and Guardians get filtered forever
>"but those two or three Revenant players I've seen are good"
that's because they are a very good players able to perform despite the handicap, in a way still griefing because they could carry you harder on a better character and deal more damage as well
>>528343012lmao low tier bait
>>528340597I have a friend in this exact same situation. He started Nightreign as his first souls game. For some reason he only insists on playing Recluse, too. Needless to say, he's getting absolutely demolished and runs are very hard.
But he's still playing with me and my other friend, so I guess he's enjoying himself. Just be prepared to herd him around like a sheep. And remember to explain things about souls game that aren't intuitive. I completely forgot to explain to him what status ailments are and what they do, for example
Gg with the super adel run, that went pretty well
>>528343212Get mad, idiot
>>528343512didn't read still playing grumpy doll and birb
>>528343607imagine cumming in his eyes
Why is Libra getting so much fanart
>>528343556Remind him wet bosses take less fire damage and more lightning.
>>528343674artists are gay furries, more at 11
>>528343012>mmh, actually, a 50% attack buff every 7 seconds is objectively midjust ban yourself
>>528343445>>makes whole team invisible to let them get their big dicks out and in the bosses facePeople seriously need to do this. Her ult is not a baby blanket for picking up retards, it's stealth camo that snaps the AI in half
Even bosses will sometimes just stand there
>>528343339>>528343442>>528343607>>528343645spamming images without any text is bad forum behavior exclusive to gacha generals, please understand
>>528343406Exactly, Anon. You're being carried by your crutch class with free built in damage, staggers, mobility and range, while us honest Guardians are basically doing SL1 boss fights. Which takes more skill, you pressing your free damage + stun on Wylder? Or me actually engaging with a boss' mechanics and winning the war of attrition. I'll accept an apology in the form of dogeza in your next post btw.
>>528343674interesting design, degenerate sluts
>>528343674His OST is fantastic and his fight design is unique.
The interaction where he takes half your health and sells it back to you is extremely memorable too.
>>528343449Very important detail.
>>528343674He's cool, and madness is a very underutilized concept. But yes, the gay furries thing.
>>528343763Depends
If its new art then no, it's fine to so, but if it's old art that's already posted then yes
>>528328018>>528324507PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VAM ANON UPLOAD HER
>>528343512i just think she's neat and have fun winning on her :3
>>528343345"Support" isn't really a class archetype in this game. You have moments where you made need to briefly support and some characters can do it faster/better than others, but you need to contribute between those brief moments. or else you're just dead weight 99% of the time.
>Ironeye for marks, Recluse for big dammies and duchess as amplifierLike I said, just repeating better character's successes. If you want to argue with me you'll have to dismantle my points, not confirm them.
>and backup caster...Oh I see, you feel for the A in Int meme, the A that's lower than the B Dex. I'm sure her 27 in Mind will really be enough to be a backup caster... Or, just another way she doesn't do anything that another class doesn't do better.
>>528343445>repeats better character's successeswow if only someone had said that
>>528343550low tier response
>>528343307You can even see her slit.
Why do guard counters feel like they have less range than typical thrusts
>>528343674his charisma score is very high
>>528343674He's the "Oh no he's hot" villain of the game
I can't get the steadfast achievement.
I think it's because I got the extra item slot.
I had 3 blue weapons and 3 purple weapons, 2 blue talismans and 5 item slots with 4 purple items and 2 blue ones.
It didn't work I'm not getting the achievement. I think we have to Not get the extra item pouch.
>>528343763artposting is older than gachashit and /vg/ itself, fuck off
plus it's all (mostly) new art
>>528344056That is a gross way to say that
>>528343674Only boss who speaks to you/has somewhat a notable character.
>>528344096if one of the purples were upgraded items it doesn't count, also get one extra bag and fill it with starlight shards or flasks
>>528344096blunc, just play the game. You're gonna have a run good enough eventually
Play with /erg/ and soon you'll be swimming in em
>>528343809>
That's a lot of blabble for someone sitting there and praying their 2 teammates can do 85% of the boss's HP bar by themselves. There is no skill in getting carried, you can throw a dog as a 3rd, have them die at the start of the fight, never to get revived and you won't notice much of a difference playing as one of the other 2 characters
You're a support with no buffs
A tank without any aggro
A dps with no dmg whatsoever
You're a male with no cock and balls
>>528344025>repeats better character's successesAnd how is that worse than the character that contributes literally nothing?
>>528343763you are the newest newfag of newfag city, and I wouldn't know whats in a gacha general because Im a functional human being
Artposts will continue
>>528342531Justify me your Guardian tier
Dont get me wrong, I agree with you, but I want to hear your reasoning
>>5283441373/4 of the ones in the post you replied to have been posted here before many times
>>528344273Where'd you get this picture of me finding crates
Everdark Heolstor should get every element all at once and also be able to use all character skills, like Soul of Cinder.
>>528344096>>528344248You don't need extra bags
>>528344212I bet she tastes good down there
>>528342078Are you going to try to get this one nuked too?
*ahem* 2/3 PC ALL BOSSES BTW
>>528344272Rev isn't high tier, I don't know why you're bitching. You're fighting over last place.
>>528343061I wish more Recluses joined my team
Recluses have enough tact to let me tank the boss while she shits fuckloads of damage from safe distance
Both parties are happy
>>528343674Heโs perfect in every way.
>Great design>Great music>Great fight>Fun raid>Fun merchant mechanic Not to mention heโs hot as hell. Demons that make cursed deals really drive me wild. He needs to put a baby in me right now. Multiple babies. Multiple demon babies that grow rapidly and then put more demon babies in me.
>>528344292nta, but Guardian can carry shitters with his ult and holding aggro, with the right relics of course, sure his damage might not be the best but it's not bad
Wylder belongs to his sister first and foremost but there is something so special about Wylder and Rev together (it's just because I main Rev)
Which one of yous just gave me this pathogen
>>528344248Didn't upgrade anything and it doesn't work
Do not get the extra item pouch, I think it ruins the achievement.
>>528344529We're just helping you complete your Executor remembrance, bro
>>528344267I'm just fucking with you Anon. I've never even played a game of Guardian.
>>528343674He's not? At least not in comparison to other characters
>>528344092No gay faggot that's just you everyone else just thinks he looks cool
do you think the roundtable gave the duchess her outfit or does she just dress like that
>33191
thank you big dawgs
>>528344575I wanted to kill him so badly in my last game but there simply wasn't enough time to do it safely.
>>528344485>my tier list is made up and I needed something to put below Revenant because she's my mainNice concession
alright last one. sorry for artposting I GUESS
>>528344529Adel is a dragon. Mountaintop bosses drop anti dragon attack ups. Clean mountain to roll Adel. Simple as.
>>528344025>repeats better character's successesYes, all while doing good cast damage herself and being able to dodge whatever whenever she wants
>>528344598it doesn't, i got my cheevo with 2 extra pouches
I'm almost done doing every remembrance so I can play the character I actually want to
I know, I'm autistic
Guardian? You mean the best character in the whole game?
>>528344498You just remind me of something I always forget to say
Guardian is better with a good team than with a team of shitters
Sure Guardian can shieldtank the boss for extremely long times but shitters will keep going down again and again, and you wont have enough reviving dives to constantly, and thus it will eventually become a 1vs1 between the birb and the boss
With a good teammates rarely go down, thus you will always have a reviving dive for the random time one of your teammates go down.
>>528344769Wylder downplayers at it again
What's the point of murk now that sigils are too valuable?
Sigils are better for buying skins than murk, so what's murk for?
>>528344621I admit I didn't read past the SL1 boss fights, now that I did I see the irony in it
>>528344754Nah i'm the same, currently stuck on Guardian, what do you know
>>528343995wylder is so cool bros
Someone WILL answer this
>>528342486
>>528344267I think Guardian is based because he makes autists like you seethe
>>528344660my route was a bit scuffed (because I suck at routing) but it ended up alright.
>>528344137>>528344273yeah post images when you're replying to a post, that's better
glad we've come to an understanding
>S tier
ironeye
>B tier
executor
>C tier
revenant
>A tier
everyone else
>>528344693I don't "main", I play characters based on the boss I get. I play Raider, Iron eye, Wylder, and Guardian. And I still put Rev in garbage low tier anyways so I don't know why you got that idea.
>>528344720>good cast damageNo, and even if you luck into a good spell to do mid damage with with your 42 Int you can cast it like 3 times with her low Mind.
>being able to dodge whatever wheneverGee if only someone had said that, in the literal first post of this conversation. Literally in the post that posted the tier list. Do you think someone could have brought that up already? Why are people who want to argue with me always retards.
>>528344672This but unironically
>>528344769Jeet cope
>>528344823No good team ever needs or wants a Guardian over another class that brings more to the table
>>528344874>stuck on the one remembrance that doesn't require you to defeat a nightlordI hope you meant you're too lazy to finish it
>>528345013>Jeet copeDont you have a BLM parade to attend to, American?
>>528344903They're the same.
Just started, what happens if you beat the tutorial Margit? I died twice and got kicked out
Flames of Frenzy is the best incantation in the game
Only once you start playing a status-centric Executor do you start to realize just how many creatures are immune to random ass statuses
>>528340597Wanted to reply to anon on this but I was able to get my partner into Nightreign, and they never liked soulslikes before. It's fairly easy access. Just stuck them on Recluse and we played all the way from Gladius to Night Aspect. It's moderately easy to get into and out of cause of the 40-50 minute session per run.
>>528344823I like seeing /erg/ Guardians because honestly our runs have been too easy lately
Also I hate the gaol relic and what it's done
>false flag into a bait into a reverse samefag
I donโt even know whatโs real anymore
>>528345032Cope
Guardian is good and people are happy when I bring them the W at the end
>>528345001>being able to dodge whatever whenever>Gee if only someone had said that, in the literal first post of this conversation. Literally in the post that posted the tier list.>There is literally nothing Duchess does that another character doesn't do better.Any more hot takes you want to walk back?
I'd rather have a Revenant because there's a chance the Revenant can do damage
>>528345098Thanks anon. Let me repay you
>>528345185i'll take the goal relic over the same repetitive castle runs. please god give me an excuse to skip castle every once in a while
>>528342345Why does Revenant gets fully modeled human feet but Ranni doesn't?
>>528344660rare run that i didnt feel i was selling lol
gg
>>528345213You either play with shitters that go down with 3 bars during the final night or those that cheer you on out of pity, which one is it
>>528345119You get a useless participation relic
You can replay the tutorial any time
>>528345238It's not a walk back if I said it in my first post, retard. And sadly, being able to dodge attacks isn't something this game has in short supply. If you can't manage to dodge Margit's hammer swing on Wylder and you need Duchess dash to pull it off? Honestly I don't know anyone in the world like that, it's a low value feature.
its time to hop on the battle bus
>>528342853No, everyone can use a bow.
It's that he shoots bows way faster.
>>528345119You get a bad relic.
Who wants to carry my terrible executor through super adel on pc
i'll only play elden ring 2 if bows work like they do with ironeye in nightreign.
this shit is way too fun i can't believe bows have been allowed to be dogshit in souls games for so long.
>>528345032I'm pretty chill but even I FEEL that shit in my bones when we have a guardian.
>>528345036>doesnt require you to defeat a nightlordFirst off, you need to get a win to get the very first Memory Fragment
but also, i need a win against Heolstor for the achievement
Is everyone stacking rune gain relics?
Everyone I play with now always ends with us all at level 15 or 13.
We are always level 8 by night one and level 13 or 14 by night 2.
I run 3 rune gain relics for the 10% rune gain.
>>528345339>shitters that go down with 3 barsyou have never played with a good guardian if you think it's worth even holding ult for rez
>>528345410>It's not a walk back if I said it in my first post>There is literally nothing Duchess does that another character doesn't do better.and conceding
>being able to dodge whatever wheneverare literally opposite
At least try to stay consistent in your bait
>>528345452>No, everyone can use a bow.what a retarded fucking answer
Easiest way to fix Guardian is to make his skill double up as a functional taunt.
He'd still be on the bottom of my priority list but at least he'd have a role to play other than a revive bot
>>528345289would be funnier without the second panel
>>528345594No, we (that's right, all of us) simply know to kill trash mobs. All of them, with great prejudice.
>>528345578play the game man
chadel is not fun on revenant
insane lightning + fire resist + moving around like a spastic 24/7 makes my entire fucking arsenal of incantations useless
there's some things like boulder toss and pest threads that you MIGHT find if you're lucky but like damn the entire run feels pointless when you're creeping up on night 2 and have nothing to show for it
I would have been better keeping my wraith calling bell and using that than literally anything else I found since bell is at least magic and he doesn't resist magic
>>528345641this
I love when I land a huge ult and my teammates can just wail on the boss
it feels amazing
>>528345594Nope.
Just good routing and people killing a bit of trash in each area.
Some of the better players will practically glide you through the level and you'll end up well into 15 by the time the night hits unless you've got a hell castle
>>528345643If that's the cope you want to leave with, fine. No one is stopping you from playing or liking Duchess, you don't have to pretend like I'm out to get you or something.
>>528345594no, it's easy enough to hit 15 without help
I'd rather have ult charge, attack increase from gaols, +3 preferred weapons for 10% damage, bloodborne rally, etc
>>528345567Check the codex station glossary thing
>>528345578Useless roguelite progression Revenant players think fixes their charatcer
>>528345483Ironeye is like a combo of the black bow and ansbachs bow perks.
It's already in the main game.
But as usual, the main game is kind of shit.
This game is the best multiplayer game they've made.
>>528345641Let me guess, you're going to bring up his invulnerability phase when using his ult? Where teammates don't take damage but can still get staggered to hell and back so you can't straight up DPS anyway?
>queue all bosses
>didn't check which one it is cuz I assume it's adel
>stack a bunch of lighting resist
>it's fucking dogs
god dammit
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Getting a little drunk and I want to hop in the queue but also I worry this might affect my gameplay ability
it's been a hard week for me bros, I fucking hate myself and my life
so can i just play guardian with whatever best str weapon i find like a normal character to get my quest done with him or will the shit dodge completely fuck me over?
>>528345672just cut it then lazy nigga
>>528345864Alcohol is a depressant.
good 3dog kill, I did find it funny that we ran out of things to do at the end there
nightreign kinda makes me more hopeful for duskbloods HOWEVER i don't want to pay nintendo to use my own internet therefore i shall wait for a pc release
>>528345869I left his remembrance till last for that reason and played him as a regular STR character even with a shit dodge
>>528345740I've won every single Revenant Adel run I've gotten Flames of Frenzy
>>528345974how many nintendo exclusives have ever gotten a pc port?
>>528345869The shit dodge will break your muscle memory, but the iron stance is kino so if you can remember it you'll be fine. Manage your stamina, that's everything on guardian. You don't have to use halberds, but you do want a weapon with decent reach so you can land your guard counters consistently.
>>528345869Hey tranny you don't need remembrances for 100% achievements
>>528345864if your that worried then just do one or two with randoms
>>528345864You'll do fine. Just follow other people's pins and you'll be alright. It'll be alright.
>>528346060i thought duskbloods was owned by fromsoft
>>528345773By your own admittance, Duchess at bare minimum is able to do 50% of already done damage consistently all the time.
Somehow this is worse than the nothing Revenant brings to the table.
Yet you expect people to value your opinions.
>>528346173it is
it will be a timed exclusive
>>528345864Just do it anyway
>>528345928That's not what depressant means, that just means it slows your system down, not sht it makes you depressed, it's just the opposite of a stimulant
>>528346108People route so fast that you get slowed down just choosing the buffs and leveling up or buying from merchants.
>>528342004I thought playing as Revenant solo was tough, but I've been playing with Recluse and Rev feel like easy mode in comparison.
i just realized "poise damage" probably help break downed state faster huh because it's based off of poise right?
>>528345869If all you care about is the achievement get a reflect relic and play him on the night aspect. Night aspect is the best boss to use reflect relic Guardian on and night aspect attacks so often that you can literally guard the whole fight if you wanna be an absolute pussy
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>>528346173the last part of the trailer
>>528345864Have you tried self-harm? It might help.
>>528346041>>528346082ah shit my whole problem was always getting pushed back too far even with his heavy block for the counters of other weapons to hit or the bosses just jump back during the attack
>>528346094tf you on about dude
I can't get all the achievements, I never get any raids. I only got kidnapped by Auger
>>528346290no, its based on its own calculation entirely
>>528346228i think i played with you earlier. I was the ironeye that guided us and by the end of night 2 we ended up just waiting around because we were level 15 with 100k and nothing left on the map to do
gg anons
as always, super adel is super easy with erg
>>528346327Where does it say owned by Nintendo?
Does Nintendo own other Switch exclusives like Bayonetta 2/3?
>>528346334Pink is a tranny color and you just proved me right again by posting it again, tranny
>>528346407and what is the calculation
>>528346452I'm 50/50 with erg on super saiyan adel
ACK
wylder and ironeye i didnt leave i crashed please wait for me
>No new hardmode boss
So we get it tomorrow?
>>528346472lmao alright dude heres a third
>>528346173Fromsoft is done with not owning the IPs they create thanks to Sony and Bloodborne. Good for them.
>>528346521you must be dead weight because I'm 100% on adel with erg
>>528346329As a teenager yeah
>>528346108Thanks bro, I hope so. I just want the pain to stop. Video games help numb my brain for a bit and not think of this situation I'm in.
>>528346612I play ironeye and can't be dead weight because of that.
don't revenant summons draw aggro, and aren't they invincible when you ult?
and revenant also buffs attack?
isn't she just a flat out upgrade to guardian?
>>528346617Well, you might as well try old reliable and see if it helps calm you down.
>>528345781In that case is it even worth bothering? He has a fuckton of health and you have to rerun the entire tutorial on every attempt apparently
>>528343674I want to say in good faith that he's got a killer design and he's basically Fromsoft's version of Baphomet, but we all know it's because of gay furries.
>>528346707>isn't she just a flat out upgrade to guardian?no lol
>>528346462who cares, I dunno, it's marketed as an exclusive, it's how I'm going to treat it
search it yourself, both Bayonetta 2 and Duskbloods have Nintendo as the publisher but not as devs
>>528346554Fuck that faggot, post more cute pink girls!
>>528345156>partner>theyTelling. Go back.
>>528346675Good. The first two always get use. Last one, not so much.
>>528346507https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HUe7JUs8_M
>>528346675It's solidly ok
If you really don't have another good red then you can use it but otherwise not really
>>528346675Best relic in the game in my opinion. Have it on every class.
The increased rune acquisition means that this relic is doing something for the team in every situation. You're not dependent on anything.
>>528346798>who cares, I dunno,Then why make shit up?
Words have meaning.
NANI YOURE A REAL NIGGER
GOD BLESS I APPRECIATE IT THAT WAS PROLLY THE SMOOTHES E BEAST IVE HAD YET NOT GONNA LIE
>>528345156Ask me how I know you play revenant with the dragon schoon outfit.
just I just use faith with recluse unless I get stars of ruin? It seems like every staff in the game is dog shit
>>528346707summons draw aggro and are invincible during ult
revenant does not buff attack, one of the summons can buff revenant's atack but it's a relic
no, they're two completely different support-based playstyles
>>528346707yes the big one can
yes if you use a relic slot, probably the better one for ults
no, the skeleton will die eventually
>>528346941She's Fth/Int, bro. You're supposed to use whichever is stronger as you find them
>>528346801sorry bro i only have very few sfw images
>>528346930What did I make up? That the trailer and description say it's a Switch 2 exclusive and there's no PC port in sight?
>>528346820Keep it to yourself, Pablo
>>528344267good post which made birdjeets seethe
>>528346707since every single answer youve gotten was low effort bait, ill give you a real one
>don't revenant summons draw aggro, and aren't they invincible when you ult?only the big skelly, hes pretty good at maintaining aggro. they (and all your allies as well) become immortal for 15 seconds after you ult.
>and revenant also buffs attack?only if you have the relic effect, but yeah, it buffs your allies' attack by 25% after you ult (i think it lasts 20 or 30 seconds) and also works on summons
>isn't she just a flat out upgrade to guardian?guardian is better at maintaining aggro, revenant is a better support imho as her ult is also better for reviving downed teammates (the AOE is significantly bigger) and works on basically the entire boss arena
>>528346931yeah that was smooth, I was getting mad, not a single good weapon all run, just using default, then I get a madness spear last second, and we just perma seethed the goat. Dual ulting him out of bubble was peak
>>528346245Duskbloods is 100% owned by Nintendo there will NOT be a port you are completely wrong
>>528346850HOW THE FUCK is anyone supposed to figure out ANY OF THIS without datamining it
damn I really don't want to be carrying around cursed claws in every single run just because they're good at reviving this fucking sucks
Is every VA in this game some jeet off fiverr? The only characters without some kind of Indian accent are Ironeye and the Priestess
>>528346220I don't expect you to do much of anything but nitpick and straw-grasp, honestly. I have no hope that you'll value anything I say. But again, if that's the cope you want to go with, then fine. When you prove yourself incapable of being reasoned with, people tend to stop offering you arguments.
>>528347121Being a switch exclusive doesn't mean Nintendo owns shit mate
>>528343885HOOOOOOOOT *cums*
>>528347354Mental wellness.
>>528347367and I didn't say that Nintendo owned it, stop @ing me
>>528347316What do you want me to say when you post this?
Does anyone know the logic of field boss spawns? Like, if there's an Overworld Elemer, then he cannot be in the Castle Basement
>>528347349Ideally you'd use your claws and then you'd know they revive well
They're one of the few S scaling weapons in the game and meme rev's throw them away for whatever reason.
>>528347349How many posts do you need to see of people telling you to keep and upgrade your claws every game, even if you drop a legendary
I love seeing a total knock down drag out over who gets last place and 2nd to last place
>>528347347[citation needed]
>died to heolstor (I still had 2 wending graces, was playing recklessly and I won)
Im mad. Im platinum trophy.
>>528347316get the fuck out of my party
>>528347349Every rev main has told you this already inventory is for passives and seals
>>528345084>rakesh thinks Americans are the only ones who despise his kindLmao
>>528347453not him but can you change the skill on the claws and if so what is a good skill
>>528347485But not for the post I replied to which claims the opposite? Lmfao
>>528347532>>528347532its strange to me that we don't have any elden ring skins despite this being an elden ring game
i wanna run around as D.
Executor posters remain modest and content in our 3rd to last place, accepting our fate.
>>528347614Hoarfrost stomp
>>528347360>have no hope that you'll value anything I sayThat's because your opinion is objectively bad and ignoring reality while spouting shit like
>I justified all of these the first time and dismissing any counter arguments with ignorance
I think that Guardian would've been one of the most popular characters if he didn't have that VA
I swear he didn't in the network test but I forget, did the characters even hang out in the test?
ok but I had to piss so bad for the entire last solo run I played so Im better than all of you
>>528347029every single staff available isn't strong unless you get starts of ruin, int is just dog shit
>>528347657Hopefully they'll add that as dlc
>>528347439Whatever you like!
>>528347465hello
>>528347537I am not in it..
>play duchess, executor, and iron eye
>having fun and clearing shit
>ping the castle and everyone goes to the basement
>round the corner
>its this motherfucker
What would your reaction be
>>528345864Being a drunkard is probably not helping your case.
>>528345804>best multiplayer game theyโve ever madeThat bar was already in hell so sure.
>>528347653just show me where you're getting the idea that the game is published and owned by nintendo, because that part was abundantly missing from the trailer
>>528344267>You're a support with no buffs>A tank without any aggro >A dps with no dmg whatsoever>You're a male with no cock and balls
>>528347775I have a mouth
>>528347738what are you a paki or chinese? why do you care so much
>>528347349You can tell just by using it. If you haven't gotten a feel for what happens are good or bad for getting people up at different bars you just haven't played enough yet.
That said, if you think I'm keeping the fucking claws in my inventory and giving up a passive slot just to revive people faster, you're crazy.
>>528347737Yeah man whatever, I don't know why you're still going, you clearly don't care. It's like you just want to fight and don't care what about. Just take whatever cope you want and go.
>>528346941S in int
S in faith
Between all the seals and staves you're always guaranteed something decent every run. No, every spell outside of Stars of Ruin is not dog shit
>>528347826Townshit was the moment where From lost the plot, and it was downhill from there (NR is fun, though)
>>528347840Just show me the part where it is a times exclusive
>>528347894Neither, I just think it's funny that I assumed he had some funny foreign bird accent until someone pointed out it was just the actor failing to hide his own
>>528347125>>528347252>Proving his pointJust stop talking
>>528346820You triggered the trannies well done
>>528347684i don't really get what they were going for with that character
they had some cool ideas but they clash with the game wanting you to gear up to get strong
>>528347986the part where nintendo didn't plaster their name all over it
>>528348049>chained_prisoner_dsr
>>528347992Anon, they probably hired him for his accent
>>528346554>>528347063Based best girl poster.
>>528346941Night Comet
Carian Slicer
Crystal Shotgun
Oracle Bubble
Rancorcall
All solid choices for damage.
>find a treespear
>find another treespear, don't pick it up
>find two more
my weaponfu is clingy...
>>528348064Wow so there wasnโt any information on โtimed exclusiveโ and it was a completely made up lie
>>528347826>gravelord versionits... over...
>>528347992why would he try to hide his accent, he was probably hired because of it
>>528348208nigga you said we was ride or die
>>528348147Sending fully charged ancient rancorcall a few times then using ult you'll get full heal and full mana it's such a good spell
>>528347969>it's like you just want to fight.t guy that posted a troll tier list
pottery
>>528348209Yes. The timed exclusive thing has been the cope since Duskbloods was announced. We have no idea either way.
>>528346334>my whole problem was always getting pushed back too far even with his heavy block for the countersThis is like the main benefit of Guardian's special guard counter with Halberds, he rushes forward before hitting if you hold it. It's to get people who moved or were knocked back out of range. But you can still do fine with spears, colossal, and heavy thrusting swords.
>>528348209Wow so there wasnโt any information on โNintendo 100% owning duskbloodsโ and it was a completely made up lie
>livestream with 0 viewers
>full name as youtube channel, own selfie as profile picture
>playing nightreign
thats crazy
what a shit run i dont know the horse at all
>>528342431>Just use two daggers and stack status effects.No wonder you think she's bad
>>528348147Crystal shotgun is actually disgusting, and super common
It evaporates anything bigger than a skelly
>>528348270Most people are capable of discussing opinions without getting mad. If me having my own thoughts on the game is enough to bait you, you should go outside. But again, if me just baiting you is the cope you want to take, then fine, that makes you replying to bait. So take your cope and go, for like the fifth time.
I really like the claws, I'd keep them with me every run at purple if I could but a great run with revenant means I don't need the claws anymore and I'd rather a purple rank passive take its place
it also doesn't help that on average I get 0-1 purple stone because a shifting earth event removed one of the two mines and that most erg runs skip mines to open as many evergaols as possible on day 1
I revive with my summons and ult so the extra revive speed is not as necessary for me
>>528347826Heolstor's first phase reminds me of him
>>528345864it's hard for a lot of us anon
resist the urge, don't drink
What is that hideous accent Duchess has?
gg. I fucking hate troll castle, I'm so annoyed it doesn't even feel like we won
>>528348405Well, she's not doing any damage without it. The daggers are pitiful.
on the upside finally got this retarded ass rng cheevo from an ancient dragon at level 3
>>528348208I watched my friend stream and he got 4 Siluria's Tree options
The team comp was Executor Revenant Ironeye
>>528348456If you ping a mine along the way people will run it, but yeah it's clear the John Wylder's leading the packing will gaolmaxx until something more broken appears
>>528348332 I just wanted you to prove me wrong so I could sleep at night knowing I only had to wait 6 months after launch for the real version on pc
Itโs real get TRVKED Nintendo wins again
>>528348452>Most people are capable of discussing opinionsYou are clearly not one of them
>without getting madcertainly not you
>>528348456I usually try to trade the claws for a twinblade with a good passive or at least a greatsword.
The claws are amazing at rezzing yes, but rezzing people who are 3 barred when it matters is pretty hard to do and best left to the ult usually. That said Adel does leave you plenty of time to revive so long as 2 people are up
>>528345864We just bombed Iran, buddy, don't get so worked up about whatever is going on. It can always get more interesting.
>>528348664>6 monthsI'd bet on 12
>>528348595I'm jealous, I need that one and the Crater shifting earth and then I'm done. I've been grinding for this for over a week. I've cleared so fucking many evergaols. Why wont they show up.
>>528346852the yellow shop one is clearly better
>>528348367>>528348534I was the rev. It was rough doing day 1 boss with no flasks or mana haha and fuck troll castle. Somehow we aggroโd the fin death bird too wtf.
Easy clap though. Gg.
>>528348352What else are you supposed to do?
>>528348147You forgot Cometshard, Comet, Spiral (situational), Magic Glintlade, Rennala's, Rolling Mgma, Rykard's, Icecrag and Zamor Ice Storm
For incantations we've got
Black Blade, Discus, Triple rings, Lightning Spear, Lightning Strike, Honed Bolt, Frozen Lightning Spear, Ancient Dragon/Death Lightning, Catch Flame, O flame, Burn o Flame (situational), Black Flame, and all 3 offensive Frenzy spells
Anyone that tries to tell you they can't get good RNG as Recluse is a massive skillet that sets their sight on one or two specific spells while writing everything else off
>>528348713Ahh shit, I have to hear about this on /vg/ of all places
faith and int shouldn't be separate anymore
>>528348504It's weird, she starts with UK kind of accent and then slips into something vaguely eastern yurop like she's trying to emulate Eveta Murdasilova (Maiden in Black/Plain Doll) VA.
>>528348634>John Wylder's leading the packing will gaolmaxxoof I felt this, it's way too hard to keep up with a wylder that spams grappling hook and actually kills stuff fast as revenant
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Nice run lads. Squished adel like a bug.
Also got this neat rev relic.
AND ONLY 4 SIGILS, FUCK YOU FROM
>>528348589>The daggers are pitiful.In comparison to what? What weapon do you think does more damage on duchess than her dagger?
>>528348984it says 5 right there...?
>>528348713Hopefully drunken cucks like that guy get enlisted and heโs forced to do something beyond wallowing in his own self pity
>>528348713I don't give a fuck about the sand people anon
I'm too focused on myself and my own life and I'm just upset at the unknown
Into the Nightreign queue I go...
>>528349058Nah Iran won't do shit.
>>528349000Duchess doesn't deal good damage, that's the point. The daggers are your best bet, and they suck but they hit fast so you can build status. The daggers are pitiful, Duchess is pitiful.
>>528348984all the good lightning spells are dragon cult incants so you want the relic effect that boosts them instead of lightning attack up. its 12% vs 4.5% iirc.
>>528349045Oh you're right I'm retarded. I was looking at the bottom for my total sigils and I forgot I had spent one for mountain shifting earth
>>528349236Those are 12%? Damn I've been skipping those
>>528348713Play Nightreign as much as you can american bros, soon you will be sent to die on persian soil to protect HOLY ISRAEL's right to exist as the greatest Nation under G-D. Your name will be forgotten and your body will be eaten by dogs but your actions will help preserve the CHOSEN PEOPLE, the Jews, the greatest human stock hand-picked by G-D to lead humanity. You should kiss a jew's feet to show how thankful you are that you'll get to die for ISRAEL.
>I drink because I am le sad
GAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY anyways should I play super adel with the erg psn again... 5 sigils is shit for 40 minutes
>>528348713>Amerikkka on their biggest isolationist moment
>>528349321spell school and 3+ item type are strong perks all over 10% i believe
>>528348831Do you know if they patched animation cast canceling for Nightrein? IIRC in base Elden you used to be able to do shit like Bestial Sling into a followup Honed Bolt with little to no start-up.
>>528349264Weren't you supposed to be going outside?
>>528349236But +2 Lightning will do more, no? 13.5%
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Post yfw next week's everdark doesn't give you 25 sigils for your first clear
>>528349467It's still in, I've been abusing the hell out of it
>>528349594If one Adel gives you 25, three bugs should yield 75
>>528349594i thought it was a weekly thing
like clear this weeks one and get 25
I think this one of those facebook fags that anon from the previous thread encountered. Changing topic. Aside from shattering crystal, stars of ruin and maybe rancor projectiles being a must for recluse's arsenal (also moon's spells but they're so rare that I have only gotten them maybe on a handful of runs). What would you argue additional spells that rivals these? I'd say comet and carian slicer and sometimes icecrag if the team demands frost. As for incants I'd say bloodboon for bleed, triple discs of light and maybe standard lightning bolt. The other lightning spells really takes a lot of time in comprison to the damage done.
>>528349467>>528349676Forgot to mention
>>528349636 I've only been doing it after absorbing elements for the cocktail, so Absorb>Honed Bolt, I've not tested it with Bestial Sling because I've not been using it. It doesn't leave traces to absorb
>>528349594Nah I think all everdark will give 25 on first clear because by doing all of them you can get the boss relics and all the character chalices.
Playstation
Adel's wild ride 2/3
pass:erg
The sooner you get here the less drunk I'll be for this
>>528349594Honestly I'm more worried they'll give out too many sigils, there instead isn't many money sinks in this game
Post new Nightfarer ideas.
Item user:
Passive: Item discovery is much higher for consumables and throwables. 50% chance to not consume items except for throwables which is 75%.
Skill: Use a upgrade version of currently selected item, the item is not consumed.
Ultimate: Destroy currently selected item to use a special attack that corresponds to the item.
Stats: High Arc
Design: A shepherd shota with a jar on his head.
very interesting disconnects on that last adel run
glad you both made it back in
>invader DCs me
>raider DCs after
easy run still, glad we could reconnect
HEY, QUESTION
does character skill cooldown reduction do anything for revenant?
>>528349848Love it, minus the jar
>>528344710What???
Is this true?
>>528349801Can't play right now, long story short, casting spells after Absorbing an element makes it count as a 2nd cast on said spell, so you know how Honed bolt casts slow the first time but really quick afterwards when you spam it back to back? Absorbing an element counts as that first spell and anything cast right after counts as the 2nd onwards
>>528349906never tested it but i don't think it does
>fuck up my solo deathless run trying to "farm aura", as the kids say
I don't want it to be but the Evergaol damage boost is so blatantly ass-busted that I wouldn't be surprised if it got nerfed.
>>528348753At least for crater you can force spawn it now
>>528349737you pretty much hit all the sorceries
I haven't even gotten a chance to play incants on recluse because half my runs have revs who gobble that shit up
>>528349435>Amerikkkagod i wish
>>528349998Why did that kill you?
>>528349467I thought this was a feature? Elden ring is the first in the line of games that introduced chain casting so I was under the assumption that it's working as intended.
>>528349848HIM.
He should be able to kill other nightfarers instead of resurrecting them.
>>528350065I'm still unsure if he was referencing the movie or just thinking he was being original
>>528349970Me on the right
>>528349848Straight sword and medium shield are conspicuously absent from the current roster. Classic sword and board knight soon.
post yfw you roll the dice going to castle early and it's BBH and Trolls
>>528349970Yes, pedophile.
>>528350285Cool, nice to know
>>528350074The new phase's grab bleeds you twice if you don't stack resistances
>>528350090What causes the roof boss to aggro from the lower levels? I notice that happens a lot (though it's usually not a problem as most bosses can't attack the lower levels).
>>528350250Someone showed a little diagram where you should spiritstream to the roof, and it's made my troll castles way less AIDS
Trying to teach randos is tough still
>spawn
>kill beginner pack
>jump off ledge to grab treasure chest because i have show treasure on map
>insta killed by crab
>leave
So, Guardian or Revenant, which class is truly the waste of slot in any party?
>>528350331if you're unlucky and it patrols close to the edge presumably. or if you aggro it with a fuckoff aoe like soulblood song
>spawn
>beginner pack is rats in a church
>leave
>>528350403Neither? Both are great. I think the weakest class overall is probably Duchess but she's still great.
>>528350403Revenant has saved a few runs, so has Guardian. I vote Duchess.
>>528350403rev can deal damage with spells
all guardian's got is stance damage which it does worse than raider, and art charge on guard which is actually pretty nice
>>528350403Revenant since Recluse exists
Revenant is only relevant if you're playing with absolute shitters who 3 bar constantly
>>528350403Revenant does what Guardian does but better
>more distraction with herself + summons>3 bar res>dmg
Jesus, we literally JUST had this discussion
>>528350438thats the second best one tho
first bestest is the carriage camp for the stoneward key
>>528350403didnt we just go over this, go outside fag
Why does Executor never get brought up in these worst class discussions? He's the same useless "tank" shit that Guardian is.
>muh status
Anyone can equip Caligo's relic.
>>528350403Guardian contributes nothing to a team with good players
PSA that if there's a shack with seals there's a crystal tear on the roof of the smaller shack next to it
>>528350330Oh I didn't see you get grabbed
>>528350248would be cool if we straight up got oscar from ds1 as a playable character and hes all about chugging estus
2/3 for purple faggot, PC
>>528350682Too busy painting to argue. Don't put yourself in harm's way.
>>528350682he inflicts status drastically faster which raises your clear speed, and his ult is insanely good
>>528350250That's John ***htreign to you mister
ok im gonna really start trying
is this a good loadout for rev
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Need people to carry my executor ass through giga adel
I'm doing my remembrance btw so we have mountaintop
PC
Anyone willing to help a doll kill a dog?
rank the beginner camps
>soldiers with stonesword chest
>soldiers
>misbegotten
>hut with commoners
>church with rats
>>528350682He's a great status bot that does good dmg and his ult is also a free revive. Having him singlehandedly proc Frost/Bleed/Poison all at once + good dmg is enough to keep him away from the bottom 2 weakest spots
>>528350527>Revenant does what Guardian does but better>more distraction with herself + summonsGuardian has more health than Rev and summons combined
>3 bar resGuardian does the same with a faster charging ult
>dmgThis is what Revenant players want you to believe
>>528349130Let's start at the top;
You're dual wielding daggers for twice the animation commitment and substantially more stamina cost (and by proxy substantially less dps)
But what's more noteworthy is your statement here
>Your dodge doesn't break your attack chain so effects that proc on the end of a chain are decent on her.If you're L1ing with two daggers you can't dodge offset.
So those two sentences don't work.
>damageIn what? Basic ass R1's? If you're using the restage relic duchess R1 chain with a purple dagger punches into territory wylder can reach with a legendary sword.
In weapon arts? You have the most FP
And speaking of which
>>528345001>you can cast it like 3 times with her low Mind.Do you actually know the numerical values or are you memeing with letters.
Duchess has 180 mind
There's only two characters with more. Recluse with 195 (she has functionally unlimited FP though) and Revenant with 200
The next lowest is FORTY (40) below her at wylder with 140 and below HIM is Guardian/Iron Eye with 115.
However, unlike any other character in the game, she benefits the most from fp on attack dormant powers or equipment effects due to her fast unique dagger moveset.
She is perfectly adequate at casting spells. Which is just as well because every single catalyst
>A in int memeYou know the difference between a duchess and Recluse using a basic ass crystal staff?
178 Scaling for Duchess
198 for Recluse
You're obviously not as good as Recluse. But it's a functional source of damage.
You're using a status build on a character with 11 arcane in a game in which everything that matters is either immune or resistant making her buildup laughably slow. And you wasted relics slots to do it.
If I played Duchess as a discount Executor completely without dodge offsets (and by proxy a constant uptime on her restage) yeah I'd think she suck ass too.
>>528350682He contributes a more in general than guardian, it's just so happens that mostly shitters play as him, and the only real use of his parry in party is surviving some aoes
>>528350841>I'm doing my remembrance btwKYS if you do your remembrances during everdark runs.
>>528350818you are missing the relic
>>528350818those are good, though the buff with family is the best and the buff on ult is almost as good and the ghostflame explosion is kind of mid
try to get evergaol attack buff in there as a priority and a wraith calling bell if lucky
>>528350841Just do executor rememberance solo its piss easy
another guardian run against heolstor, another loss
this character is just iredeemable man
>main defense has completely finite use unlike a normal dodge because chip damage exists
>teammates suck cock? congrats you have unlocked mega hard mode
>just ressed both of your tards from 3 bars? they just went down again lul
>>528351015remembrances are ez and give lots of runes
>>528351015Free mountaintops means free anti dragon perks meaning more damage against Adel
How is that hard to grasp?
>tfw you start getting some very successful runs while not using the "default" setups for nightmares
For example:
>Bloodhound Claws Duchess with Scholar's or Frozen Armament
>Cold Hoslow/Fire Urumi Executor
>Star Fist Raider
>Eochaid Regalia Executor
>Cold Raptor Talons Executor
>Lion's Greatbow Wilder
Shout out your fave "off meta" stuff.
Imagine needing allat to defend duchess
>>528350895>>528350573wait do evergoal keys have set locations?
>>528350682Hey now Exec is pretty good. He can pull his weight with status effects just like everyone is saying and can serve as an immediate tank to parry away. If the guy sucks at parrying or the attack is unparryable he can just dog away to take all of that damage or have an emergency revive.
>>528351117need rally relic
>>528351159metal chests have a high chance to drop them, and they often appear on player corpses for obvious reasons. you can also buy 1 from a town POI if you get one.
>>528350965Spamming faith spells with a couple of shards ready is already more than anything Guardian does by itself, keep coping though
>>528350895>SSS Eldritch Platinum Overgod tier-Minor Erdtree spawn with treasure chest
>>528351015they arent that bad if they are on the route you are already doing, its like 30k runes. it sucks when someone b-lines it across the map though.
>>528350862Yes
t. another doll
>>528351084>>528351051is evergaol better than +3 faith and 12% bestial incantations
like assuming you get at least +10% it seems worth I guess
I could fit the shop relic in there but idk
>>528351117The thing about a 3 bar rez is that if somebody is already bad enough to be at 3 bar they're not going to be good enough to suddenly stop dying when shit matters and they're already out of estus.
>>528351153regalia of eochaid is a dex/arc weapon so how is that off meta? same with star fists, they are a str weapon. and the other weapons too, your "off meta" sounds a lot like "good synergy"
Thanks mesu for wrangling us down the crater. I wasn't confident we'll make it, but turns out it's not that hard when you ignore most minibosses on the way.
>>528351159forts and churches have a very high chance of dropping them
forts are in the place where theres a godrick knight
sacred churches are on the top, golem/fire are on the left
mountain golem/crystallian forts it's on the room in the 2nd floor where you open the gates
>>528351329point of interest
>>528351289most runs with people using it clear between 3 to 6 jails
>>528351194Man i have reflect, ult charge on guard and the heal
shit just doesn't matter, either i genuinely only get complete shitters when i play guardian or the character is just that fucking bad when i play him
doesnt help that i dont find any decent weapons, either
>Mohgs spear is the best i got all run>fucking bleed on heolstoraaaaaaa
>>528351309fair
i wish i the reflect damage actually healed from post-damage recovery so i could reduce the chip damage further, as it stands right now i'll need to kill heolstor with only fucking reflect damage
>everyone pings gaol on the edge as the night closes in
>one decided to go for a camp on the way and waste time
why...?
>>528351346"Meta" is running around with ONLY what your character uses.
I literally have yet to see
>Executor other than myself using not a Katana>Raider using anything but collosal/great weapons
>>528351254Oh right, Bird also doesn't beg for shards every single time and poke damage is still more useful than
>lol, couldn't get a seal, so here's my meme greathammer buildRev
>>528350895the only one i dont skip is the one with the wagon chest that has a key most of the time. I'll grab the flask charge but i dont waste time on the rats.
so on revenant am I supposed to take those relics that add an element to the claws for the nightlord I am about to fight or is it not worth?
>>528351473that's not what meta means
>>528350895fuck that stupid church with rats start.
There's like only a single church start that has consolation mooks near the grace.
>>528351159not set locations necessarily. i think every single carriage chest i have checked has had one so far though. Other than that the rounded topped chest have them pretty frequently, if you check both those chests in a monument a key is almost guaranteed. Also corpses in monuments can have them too, some corpses might have a higher chance as well, like those ones on the broken bridge outside the mini fort you have to access through sewer i have seen a few from those.
>>528351548the chance you will get a good scaling weapon to spam skills with or spell to cast by the time you hit the nightlord is extremely high.
>>528351548>or is it not worth?Whole class really
>>528351560The meta is what's commonly done. In many cases the common choice is also optimal but 80% of NR or ER players fail to reach that bar so in NR "meta" isn't synonymous with "good".
>>528351346Straight sword severely suck in this game, and although RoE has arc scaling, it doesn't have any status so it's kind of wasted.
>>528351516>needing more than your own 2-3 self bought shards>using literal shitters as an example to discredit instead of the class itselfI'm glad Guardian is the most useless class in the game
>>528351516Any random-ass seal with basic shit like Flame Sling, Lightning Spear, Black Flame, Pest Threads, etc outperforms any damage Guardian can do.
>>528351516>and poke damage is still more useful than>>lol, couldn't get a seal, so here's my meme greathammer buildIt's not, even default white claws rev contributes more than poke guardian
And on top of that
Rev with great hammer can stance break bosses way faster than guardian or non beast executor
>>528351706idk sword and board is still pretty good, it's really lame that guardian only has charged guardcounters with halberds. if he had it on every weapon type he'd be a million times better
>>528351751People sleep on Catchflame, insanely spammable and melts HP bars when done back to back
I haven't done the enhanced Nightlord yet.
What do ((we)) think?
>>528351548Revenant claws are a meme. If you actually do the caste/shifting earth/roaming bosses you will find something better to use, not even getting into seals you'll find along the way.
>>528351798>Rev with great hammer can stance break bosses way faster than guardianbro what the fuck are you talking about, guardian gets like twice as much stamina as rev
>>528351829I'm more of an o flame enthusiast myself.
>>528351458the worst is when they decide to run backwards to a regular camp on the edge of the map while night is closing in. like night will be there soon and we will have to run, why even go there/ just go to castle and start clearing. Nope lets run all the way back there to quickly get 3k runes from the shitty boss and hope his gacha drop is worth running all the way back with the rain on our heals. then we get to phase 2 of day 2 and check castle as going to earthshifter and its crucible knights, could have figured that out sooner and did it day 1.
>>528351819You'd never reach a guard counter with a straight sword in this fast paced game. They're too short.
>>528351860It's fun but i kinda wish it didn't start at phase 2, though I k own like it's sto save us flasks
>>528351696>The meta is what's commonly done.>>528351560
>>528351829I didn't mention it because it tends to be rarer than the fireball incantations or lighting spear.
>>528351860easier solo than trio
>>528351860its ok. make sure you read up on how to fight it so you dont just die and drag your team down when he does his ultimate.
>>528352009That's -literally- what it means.
Using intelligent stat based builds will be considered off meta until we start seeing Wylders that don't cling to greatswords 25/8 and such, the meta will be "hope for a purple in the weapon class you started with".
>equipped the evergaol relic
>my single arrow shots start doing great damage
Fuck I should have put it on sooner
>>528350090Yea that was the moment my house mate bursted into my room to ask something and then I got womboโd by the pot and death bird flames
I've always figured the "meta" meant the most efficient strategy/choices to achieve victory
Its popularity isn't relevant, but its true that meta builds become popular
>>528352362that is the real definition yes
>>528352172you wrote "collosal" instead of "colossal" so its no wonder you think that
>>528352362it's inherently popularity, if a guy comes up with a never-before-seen broken build, you can't call it meta
but as soon as people see it, it catches on, becomes popular and then "the meta"
will the evergaol relic be nerfed?
>>528352362Normally competition helps push the meta but generally the meta just trends and trends are often backed by objective advantages. Since NR has such a wide range of skill and luck levels, the meta is less defined by what's best which is how you get cancerous Wraithbell Revs who ding the donger right through until the nightlord. The wraithbell is "meta" but that doesn't make it good.
>>528352468No.
>>528352362a meta is when certain strategies are so common and so effective that the existence of the strategy at all has an effect on the game that demands people either follow it or do something else that specifically accounts for it.
My gameplay doesn't change no matter what my Raider holds, so there's no meta.
>>528352580probably not cause you can RNG a better one.
>>528352580It already nerfs a run by creating brainlet routing syndrome.
>The crucbile tower at level 5? Nah I think I want to get an evergaol and end the day with less net damage.
>>528352605>>528352647I think the concept of a meta in Nightreign is both retarded and self destructive to the long term enjoyability of this game
>>528352172>Wylders that don't cling to greatswords 25/8I need a GS to do my cool move though
Grapple into colossal jump attack doesn't feel the same
Speaking of meta, who is the weakest class?
>>528352778Your favorite class
>>528342078you should add him dying to ancient dragon as duchess from the other thread
HEY GUARDIAN YOU STUPID CUNT
WHY THE FUCK DID YOU PING THE EVERGAOL IF YOU DON'T HAVE A KEY
KILL YOURSELF YOU CLOACACUNT
>>528352778the lowest dps is guardian therefore guardian
>>528349467>>528349785>>528349636>>528349801Here you go bros.
Regular cast Black Blade and then a cast canceled Black Blade right after for speed comparison
>>528342431any tier list that wylder isn't the top spot is retarded
>>528352754I don't know why you replied to me. Actually I do know, it's because you didn't read my entire post.
>>528352867since fucking when does black blade spell have a point blank deadzone
another fun cancel is into theodorix magma, or sword spells into each other
>>528352865this is correct tho. this isn't an mmo. this is demons souls 5.5. you can dodge everything if you just press the circle button
>>528349510lightning attack +2 is only a 6.5% buff
please...no more best/worst character discussions...
>>528352924no I was just tagging the anons in the convo I was replying to, not every (you) is an argument bro
>>528352867how do to that animation cancel properly?
>>528352886wylder is just a slightly weaker raider
ok but which Nightfarer would be quickest in covering for another's awkward faux paus at the dinner table?
>>528349737Glintstone pebble is actually good vs bosses that are super fast and aggressive because its fast cast for more consistent damage. obviously the meta spells are better but you cant always get those off or find them.
>>528353106you aren't animation canceling, spells true combo with the fp succ
>>528353135all of his skills are better than raider's
>>528352867>>528352964>>528352996oh damn it works off of an empty absorb too
>>528352172Sorry but I need a good reason to abandon my special attack.
>>528353181Duchess and Recluse.
>>528353106there's no trick to it, you just cast spells one after another and they go really fast. depends on the spell tho. you can cancel from bestial sling/carian slicer into a lot of stuff.
>>528353218>oh damn it works off of an empty absorb tooOh my that I didn't know.
That might smooth out solo runs.
>>528350895If the church with rats with no camp nearby didn't exist then the camp sacked by demihumans would be the absolute worst.
Just played with a cheater ironeye on pc, didnโt know until the end when he had full legendaries, also level 4 mogh spear
Barely saw him since his route was behind atrocious
>>528353216Raiders L2 is better than anything Wylder has by itself
I can avoid damage and gigastun bosses constantly
>>528353152neither. you don't have rally.
rally on raider > any other effect.
>>528353257Or you can just not build around it lol
>>528353152right but anon is also right, swap middle one for rally
>250k runes over level 15
nobody routes better than me, heh
FUCK
I saw thss shit and thought the bottom one was "starting frostbite"
But then I looked again and saw that it wasn't and I'm retarded
So close and yet so far.
>>528353647what's your high score? only 790k for me, i saw an anon on week one with just over a million
>>528353736TRQST THQ PLQN
>>528353736I love getting to DOOT as the Raider
>>528344096I just got this today. I thought I got it because I bought 3 crimson physicks at on the 3rd night
>what if we like took the shittiest most spastic AOE spamming retard
>and made him most spastic and shitty AOE spamming?
>BRILLIANT THAT SOUNDS LIKE DIFFICULTY
>>528353827queue with us and get carried
Sorry guys, I didn't notice him winding up for that grab.
Good try lads
That was a very unfun fight against adel
I hate that he spends 90% of the fight running away from you
>>528353827I can't kill Regadel
Or Heliostore
>>528353928>>528353893My bad, I wanted to try to crimson whorl his tornado but fucked up the timing twice. If it hadn't been for that I think we would have won.
Thanks cap and gigi easy run
>>528354190>gigiholy shit she's here???
So, if nightlords represent player characters, then I guess adel is guardian? Tornado and shit..
revenant i am so sorry for making you save me from the black blade kindred as a jumped off the roof and you got flattened
>>528354113Probably my fault more, I wasn't spamming incants or the Godrick Head ash as well as I should have and skipped out on the choice of a radagon seal at the castle because I was feeling rushed by the rain closing in and only realized it was there after I went with some garbage.
>>528354190our team comp and vibe was like this
>>528354280AND WYLDER IS JOHN NIGHTLORD BAYBEEEE
>>528353397>>528353489Yeah I know rally is great on Raider but the issue is that the only decent rally relic I have is green, which means I'd have to give up the yellow evergaol damage boost relic since Raider doesn't have a red-green-yellow chalice. I have the choice between red-blue-yellow or red-red-chromatic.
>>528354280Literally what the fuck are you talking about
>>528354338I was the duchess and I know I led you both up there but as soon as I saw it, I knew we had no time for it with the rain coming, sorry I had to jump off right after
>>528354280>So, if nightlords represent player charactersThey don[t
>>528354434So give up the fucking evergaol.
>>528354338It's cool dawg I was able to get the runes back
How do we fix Guardian being bad
>>528354434gaol meta will do nothing for you if you're dead
if you feel confident playing without rally then go ahead without it, though
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I finally finished every remembrance
I can finally play the game
evergaol completion relic is 7.5% per gaol right
>>528354628Let him charge a Guard Counter with anything that can shield poke ND buff his Fth a bit so he can do a little incanting.
Reduce the downed stat scaling. Why have 3 identical sections of bar if you're going to be gay and make them all worth different amounts only a Japanese Developer could have thought of this system.
Why is Raider's second remembrance relic so bad compared to the other characters?
>>528354704No, that's the invader one. Gaol is 5%.
>>528354628>guardian>badi tihnk it's just you lil man
>>528354719Because it's the wrong color for his personal urn which means it has to go in the variety slot
>doing well on first phase of adel
>first aggro sequence
>dodging like crazy
>suddenly notice the other two players are literally just on the edge of the arena doing nothing
so that's reportable right
but what category, unattended gameplay?
>>528354719Anything that relies on defeating enemies is useless trash.
>>528354717Why is it broken up into 3 pips if depleting a pip doesn't keep it down?
Shit is the whackest part of the game by a country mile.
i got.............six robux??? how!?!?!?!?!? this changes everything
>>528352362It's both
The metagame is everything about the game that is not directly entailed by the mechanics of the game. Which includes both what other people do and what is the most efficient strategy (given everyone isn't identical).
In games with multiple players there is no single "most efficient strategy" entailed directly by the game unless all players are identical.
For a particular match the "most efficient strategy" is a function of how other people behave.
There you go, Revsis, DOGGO CLEARED!
if you play solo you are an inferior player who feels the need to play on easy-mode
playing solo will eventually make you worse at the game than even the shittiest of shitters in a random queue
>>528354878The most efficient strategy is called dominant strategy and it always the most efficient by design. It's efficiency makes it dominant, hence the name. Saying something else is valid isn't actually valid since the dominant strategy exists.
>>528348713man what the hell
>>528354937What if I'm a cursed blade only solo player
>>528354628>more innate hp/stam/dmg reduction/poise>steel guard gets extra buff against non physical damage and immune to status effects>guard counter goes even further, gets hyper armor+damage reduction>change ult so it by default gets health regen, relic instead now inverts the effects against enemies by lowering health and defense over time>character skill has elemental/status effects inherited from weapon and generates aggro/does more damage
STOP MAKING ME WATCH THE CUTSCENES YOU NIGGERS
I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS, STOP IT
>>5283547191. Useless on bosses
2. His ult is mid + charges very quickly + situational
3. He has very high base poise + hypermor on a lot of his attacks (and weapons), more poise literally does nothing on his case
>Why is it so bad?Japanese company or something
>people bitching about morgott surprise spawns
that's literally +20% free damage what's the issue
>>528352362There's Most Effective Technique/Tactic Available, then there's meta like metaphysics overarching theory of how something is functioning.
>>528354836>Why is it broken up into 3 pips if depleting a pip doesn't keep it down?to show how much the bar increases when somebody is downed a second time
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>another heolstor loss on guardian
>had to revive teammates from 3 bars 3 times already
>got ult and hes about to do his slam after changing element
>use it and watch both teammates run away as im flying into the air
>slam happens
>double down
>mfw
just 1 win on heolstor
thats all i need
>>528354995>the dominant strategy exists
I think the main thing that makes adel unfun is that he jumps around so fucking much
>be raider
>want to stagger him
>he runs away
>dives back with a jump
>does a spin grab
>2nd spin grab
>either dives away or runs away again
>repeat forever
I had a much better time on Wylder because at least then I can chain grab to him
>>528355029Same applies but you can ignore her post entirely play however you want bro.
>>528354719You can use this on other characters. There's a reason [Raider] isn't affixed to any of them. Thinking this is a raider relic is peabrained.
>>528355113I'm not that anon and I don't think it's that important but they could've just made it thirds that aren't seperated and you'd still get that. You could also work with a gradient
>>528355060Maybe they have PTSD or something, I dunno
>>528355183We don't get to kill him. We get to routinely get him to 20% before everyone starts going down
i'm done with making pings, 2 games in a row today people agree with my ping yet went away to different places
>>528355046the intro cutscene when it shows us 3 walking towards the birds? i tab out to shitpost and read the thread. the cutscene when we are opening the door to the nightlord? i tab out and read/shitpost here.
>>528354995ok but what if I'm an autistic schizo who will throw the game if I see anyone ping a gaol? it's not efficient now, is it???
>>528355336*blacklists u*
>>528355336Thats on you bro.
>>528355282Yeah that's my experience, except its 50% where everyone shits the bed heavily
>>528355234Eh. I'd be confident enough on all other characters, not on the bird
If it wasnt for his stupid moonlight slash projectile bullshit i'd have been fine, but that just chunks through the shield like crazy
How the fuck do you people get these near perfect relics...
If you hold onto a holy weapon for death birds your IQ is well over 120
>>528355362Dude nice. I had a similar moment until I found out my "fp on fist attacks/+1holy/chilling mist" relic was trash because fist can't chilling just.
>>528355473you retarded son?
>>528355473lol haha just lucky bro ;) I'm just lucky you know? ;))
>>528355483I don't care, I skip them
Only reason I grab a holy weapon is in case of tibia mariner as a night boss because otherwise I will alt f4 out of boredom
>>528355473Save scumming or modding.
>>528355336Game Theory says I do the gaol anyway
>>528354995>>528355336A non-autistic version of this is how good the Collector signboard evergaol buff + stonesword key relic is compared to another relic that is the evergaol buff with some other good effect.
If you know the other 2 people are starting with stonesword keys there is a lot less value in starting with one yourself. It might be better to bring another effect instead
>>528355652p-collective isn't solidified to call it yet. The game is too partially stochastic for this.
PSA: if you're near certain you're gonna die in the second phase let yourself go down in the first. Do not waste your flasks healing in the phase that is safe to revive you in. It's seems dumb but if you need 7 flasks to not faint in phase two then by all means.
>>528355473Gamble all your savings to pot guy's relic gacha.
>>528355060he usually shows up when you're level 3
>>528355801is he talking about dying to a boss? I don't understand what he's talking about.
>>528355854Bosses are the only thing with phases so yes
I'm never playing anything but a ranged character into everdark adel again
Fuck this spastic boss
>>528355060He loves ganking people on bosses
>>528355801Yeah, this is good advice, especially if you're the kind of player who dies last in a fight. No point in saving your revives if everyone else is 3bar'd by the time you die once.
>>528355854I think. I can't really parse what he's trying to say. Might be something that happens when people die in a boss I wouldn't know.
>>528355941Only people with vaginas play ranged characters
So how does the damage happen when a weapon IS an element? I know when it has the effect "Adds magic damage to attacks + 30" or whatever, that's just full physical damage and then 30 magic on top, but when if it's not an effect and the weapon is just a magic weapon? Is is 50/50? Or does the element entirely replace the physical damage?
>>528355979thats a weird way to out yourself as trans (not a real vagina btw sorry) but im proud of you anon
>>528355941I main Ironeye but I heard people saying this a lot so I tried him on Wylder and got him first try. I think yall are just bad.
Someone wanna help me kill an alternate version of myself
>>528356087to be fair, Wylder gets to skip the tornado entirely
Everdark Adel just became my favourite NR boss, insane fight
>>528355996Starting weapon deals blank turns all of the damage to that type.
I'm not sure split damage is still a thing. The feeling of a split damage weapon being trash due to flat resist values isn't really here in NR you always do more damage adding an element to a weapon (unless the specific enemy has that specific resistance). Weapons with no element but an ash that has one switches over the type to the element for the ash, not adds the damage of that type to standard damage.
>>528356087>so I tried him on [only melee character with a chasing ability]>for the boss whose only difficulty is that he runs around and doesn't let you hit himthis anecdote means absolutely nothing
>>528356312Sorry man, git gud I guess.
>>528354878>The metagame is everything about the game that is not directly entailed by the mechanics of the game.Sexy fanart is meta. You heard it here first folks
>>528356312you run as fast as a horse and you still can't hit the boss?
>>528356273>I'm not sure split damage is still a thing.Its still here since SoNaF still has triple types but they def changed it somehow. SoNaF now turns the weapon magic if you use the azur or fire if you use the firewhirl part of the ash to eliminate the flat resist issue on that weapon.
I wish they'd just clone the warframe format already 4 abilities (that synergize) and a passive. That shit just works and they've made so many of them that are neat to play it's worth the effort vs having a roster with 3 chronically crippled classes.
Man I wish I'd played with /erg/ before superAdel launched. I probably could have scored more clears. Now people are only doing superAdel
>>528356693Their games were sort of boring to be in.
>>528356273>I'm not sure split damage is still a thingExplain the "Adds magic damage to attacks + 30" passives then.
>>528356118Me when doing Executor's final remembrance quest, and any time playing as him and meet another Condemned Executor invading at a camp. Of course sometimes my idiot teammates will jump in and gang up on the fucker, ruining my duel.
>>528356693you are supposed to lose the game
a lot
using /erg/ to beat gigadel when you can't beat augur solo is the antithesis of the genre
>>528356806>it's only fun to drag deadweightmasochistic?
>>528356952This shit is the skibidi of 2025. Learn a second word.
>>528356693i played with randoms until gigadel. they can't handle him.
>>528356815I'm thinking more the game found ways to sidestep the issue like other anon said. Using the starter deals x option negates any of the possible issues the multiple damage types presented with the way defenses are calculated.
The general consensus over time will probably reflect ER where multiple damage types is worse than dealing all damage of 1 type.
>>528356952Based retarded bronybro
>>528356927No, the games were too optimized too quickly so it wasn't very fun. winning 3x for the cheevo feels nice, winning 20 games in a row starts to feel like we are wasting our time. Its like chess niggas rattling off openings and counters to each other. It isn't actually interesting because everyone is performing prescribed actions then patting themselves on the back for following those prescribed actions.
>>528357029trvke is a combination of two words
>>528357029Sometimes I wonder if zoomers realize truth bombs/nukes was coined by that cuck Stephen Colbert and that's all I see when they post it
Nice victory. Thanks for the hammer. Feel bad that I was only able to give the revive item in exchange.
>>528357185doesn't really matter though
>>528357197cuckbert didn't coin it. his writers got it secondhand from the internet just like redditors do.
Password erg
Queueing all nightlords
I bought shifting earth Crater since its the last chiev I need
1/3
>>528357143> the games were too optimized too quickly >i was carried and now i know how to play so it's boringit sounds like you're just burned out on the game then really.
If you won 20 games with erg doing this, you likely know optimal pathing by now, so you might as well stop playing the game if it's so boring, since you'll be doing the same thing in solo and even with randoms if they follow your pings.
What does Character Skill Cooldown Reduction do for characters with on-demand skills, like Executor, Recluse, or Revenant? Nothing?
I am a revenant and about to queue erg superadel
queue at your own risk...
>>528357429wait for me
just woke up
>>528357352>I bought shifting earth Crater since its the last chiev I needi will join and do magma wyrm last second and we'll all die on the hawk flight out
>>528357305Some viacom mass media pundit
>>528357304This was like 2008 way before reddit was even known to the masses
>>528357460are you a duchess?
>>528357560nah i don't think i made it
i'm stuck in 1/3
>>528357380Nah I play the game for hours a day every day still. Playing with /erg/ wasn't fun is all. Talking about the various things in the thread was fun, but seeing how you lot sucked any enjoyment out of the game after maybe 2 days was a chore to deal with. I found out the same thing in AC6 threads when that was popular.
If we were playing smash bros you guys would all pick fox no items final destination unironically. I'm too normal to play with that type of unfiltered autism coming from everyone else.
Is nightreign still worth playing at this point?
>>528357429Lol, there at least 3 classes that worse at super adel than her, maybe even 4
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Ask Count TRUTHNVKE about the nature of the world?
(Y/N)?
>>528357472Don't forget to waste time on Garg and FSB on the way in.
Stop for all Prelates.
Plunge the chariots
>>528357607jokes on you, I just queued up!
>>528357669the thread says she's the worst!
>>528357653did everyone in acg only play missile rat and double zim?
>>528357449>>528357678based retarded bronybro
omg I FINALLY GOT MY FREN
>>528357702the hands give a lot of runes too, gotta kill those
>>528354589>>528354640Rally is nice to have, but as far as I'm concerned there's practically nothing in this game that you'd want to trade over a damage boost that substantial. I've solo'd Adel a couple times now with both the set-ups in that image.
Also holy shit the stars aligned for pic related to actually roll with three effects that synergise well for one character.
>>528357653AC6 threads were pretty alright for awhile
meta faggots and missile rats were shunned our outright kicked.
Conversely when that stopped happening the rooms died instantly.
I have double skills with ironeye and skill cooldown +3 plus skill cooldown +2 (yes it stacks) plus evergaol and vigor to not die
Absolutely insane
Time to shit up erg lobbies while fapping to revenant feet.
Tanky frontline birb and his 2 squishy backline spellcasters
The dream team
>>528357815I wasn't playing with them early on when that was the meta. I got to deal with 3v3 where everyone but me was a missile boat doing overboost into the sky then hovering. Maybe 1 other guy was forcing some pilebunker blujay build every once and a while but we wouldn't even fight because it was more fun to watch the stupid boats cruising around doing nothing to each other.
Shit was boring.
>>528357924They were great, and these threads are great. Playing with /erg/ isn't fun though. I'm trying not to knock my anon bros too hard because I know some of you are actually autistic and that is why playing with you isn't fun.
same random chaotic energy I was missing with randoms lately
thanks for the fun run /erg/
>>528357834Shut up about your boogeyman retard
>>528358031>had a recluse and rev the other day as bird>the second the boss swapped off me one or both of them fell overits all so tiresome
>>5283580921 person always decides they want to defend that russian guy to the death for some reason. It's really strange.
>>528358080i wonder if mesugaki and cunny rapist played together at some point
wraith calling bell........guardian?
>>528358238A daring synthesis
>>528358080sorry for 3-barring at the end there i was clipped by a lightning strike behind me offscreen
>>528358080oh look what I got :D
>>528358182I know how that feels, when you think you got the dream team but turns out it's a let down
That's why I have draw aggro on block + damage on block so I can hold the boss attention for as long as I can, praying my other 2 teammates know when to stop spamming spells when they are about to get jumped
>>528358279bell ironeye is the top secret meta, but don't tell anyone
>Failed to join multiplayer session
>returning to roundtable hold
bweh
how do you trigger shifting earth? I need to defeat the mountain top one to unlock all the trophies, it's by defeating nightlords right? I've defeated Heolstor 3 times tonight and not gotten any modifiers
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nani the fuck
>>528358390np, I didn't abandon you, I was waiting for my ult to come off cooldown to get a headstart then revive you with my katana, it was awesome that you came in clutch after and swung the fight around
props to wylder too for hanging in there the whole time the boss hp didn't move for a while
>>528358561luck
defeating adel forma de super saiyan also allows you to buy it
>get hammer than buffs projectiles by 30%
>hold onto it for entire run
>show iron eye
>doesn't pick it up
i really don't get why people don't look at passives
>>528358031Would rather have any other melee class over bird in my party
>>528358561you can pay with ishizaki buck now
>>528358209No one is defending anyone because no one knows who the fuck you keep spamming about
It's simply annoying and you're not contributing anything to the thread
>>528358608>defeat super AdelI just want my 100%, game pls
wish me luck Anon's
>>528358619anon it's "Projectile Damage Drop-Off Reduced" and it shouldn't be a problem if you're fighting at a reasonable distance
>>528358758replying to him isn't worth it
>>528358758I've been talking about guardian gameplay this whole time anon.
if you alt+f4 in character select does that not give you a penalty?
is that why sometimes i see when two people are hovering the match fails to load?
I'd be willing to spend human money on this costume
>>528358410I use those too, together with ult heal and ult charge on guard
I have people flat out run away from my glowy circle man, guardian really is only as fun as your randoms allow it
Not even gunna read or stay in this thread - just know revenant is absolute ass and a worse recluse. anyone who picks her or defends her is STUPID. I've 100%'d the game and am on a 4 win streak on giga adel rn and I fucking hate revenant
I heard /erg/ has a secret discord server they use for expeditions. Is this true?
>>528359026Both are really good characters for a group to have.
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Genuinely curious what goes through these peoples minds sometimes
we were at the church circled and the rain started coming in so the wilder pings a camp towards the rain and runs there isntead of just going to the castle immediately. then of course day 2 he pings a church on the other side of the map and passes by castle to do more basic camps and ignore every big boss on the way there. this is purple adel btw, if you cant handle great enemies on the field why are you queueing for purple adel?
>>528359134nothing wrong with doing the easy and quick fire camp
>>528358918>recluse>absMy balls hurt owie
>>528358909I've been disconnected before even getting that far and it's still recorded as a loss
>>528359134Lets skip the part where anyone gives pointers on would have could haves and you tell us how you think it should have gone instead.
>>528359072yeag it's true, mush is the server owner
>>528359278its a waste of time. you have to run there and run back instead of just full clearing castle. running straight to castle is less than half the run distance plus no wasted time fighting mobs at fire camp for 3k xp and a gacha bonus
yes "there is something wrong" with wasting time in a game with a literal time limit.
>>528359384was it a crucible knight castle
>>528359384>reach 15 at the end of night 2vs
>reach 15 at the end of night 2 but anon is annoyed by minor inconveniences
>>528359134he's thinking "circle is closing so lets do areas outside of it while we still can" which is not a bad thing to do at all except that the reward for that camp isn't worth it on day 2
>que all bosses erg
>get nu-adel 90% of the time
>familiar names every time
>everyone shares items, knows whats good for other characters
>clearing him no problems
>that last 10% of the time, get old bosses
>totally unrecognizable names
>no one else puts down pings
>they don't follow the pings that you put down for them
>never a single item shared
>they constantly die to night 1/2/3 boss AoEs
whomst are these people
>>528358937>I use those too, together with ult heal and ult charge on guardThis is my build
I also just got the Extended Skill relic, and while the longer tornado is nice for trash mobs, it feels worse against medium bosses.
Normal tornado could at least "flinch" medium bosses like Crucible Knights but I feel this longer but weaker tornado can't do that; and that is an issue. But I just started using it so I'm unsure.
>guardian really is only as fun as your randoms allow itCorrect, which is why I said Guardian is better with a good team than scrubs, cannot reviving dive 4 times in 2 minutes since your teammates keep going down, a better team that does not go down as much makes Guardian pay off much more.
>>528359134First day sounds like an absolutely logical thing to do, you should always clear as much as possible day 1, and castle is mostly for basement and yard, while full clear is day 2 material, looks like you are just bad at the game.
There also no shifting earth to justify doing full castle early
Bet you are lying about what really happened during day 2 too, just to make yourself look good on the internet
>>528359379its literally said in the post you replied to. go straight to the castle.
you dont run towards the rain to do a basic camp unless either
>its an element you need for boss weakness>you are passing the time as rain closes in on night battle
If I can't progress a remembrance anymore do I have to play a few runs to unlock the next chapter or how does it work?
>>528359134i've had a run earlier that this happened, idk what goes in the minds of these people... seems to me like they feel it's a waste to not do everything in the way to an objective
like it's okay to do this as the last circle closes in and you've done most things you need to do but yeah, this behaviour tilts me quite a bit too
let's just not talk about that one
>>528359541think you need a win vs a night lord
imagine getting a syrupy pawjob from the nyeko knyaight under a table at denny's while she wears these
Just finished every characters remembrance quests, got all achievements on steam, i've beaten every nightlord except the new maw guy.
So /erg/ what character is the best tool for that job?
>>528359538I wouldn't have hit that fire camp but I also wouldn't have run straight to the castle. I would have run west a little and hit the mine entrance, get the goods, then run south down the river grabbing the rune bonus then do castle basement then up the stairs and try to clear the castle. Don't know what order you did those field bosses but the run south on the river part of my plan would be killing the 2 right by the mine exit.
If that is your day 2 layout the second shrinking ring would have had the castle in it for a long time so the overall issue is moot really.
>>528359525wrong and retarded. you should do all of castle day 1 except the roof. day 2 might have weird pathing by having night battle put you in a weird spot where its not worth going back to the castle so you do random boss battles on the field instead.
Theres basically only 2 good strategies for good players, either castle day 1 or evergoals day 1. shitters want all the basic camps and churches and seem to ignore both. doing basic camps isnt bad but you dont go out of your way to do them unless you need it for spell casting item or boss weakness. going out of your way otherwise is just bad, period.
>>528359475groups with this sort of shit pathing dont typically reach 15, you are lucky to get 13, more likely 11-12
>>528359885That's day 1 layout, he obviously wanted to do bbh in basement with level 5 party, because doing castle is "le good"
anyone manage to get a low hp build going?
relics
>damage negation at low hp
>damage negation on knockback
>hp regen at low hp
powers
>holy ground at low hp
passives
>damage negation at low hp (stacks)
>taking damage gives negation (doesn't stack)
>successive attacks gives negation (doesn't stack)
>>528359885we just came out of the mine and then jumped up to the church+boss then the rain hit and thats when he pinged north camp. you can see the grace points of where we cleared we started south west went north did that field boss because it was a super easy one tree guardian
>>528359920It depends what level you're at. If you only do camps and low level stuff at low level then move on like you are saying you end up with a ton of non-cleared low level content on day 2. If your day 1 went well you could be level 10-11 at start of day 2. You can sanic speed through any of those low level camps and ult nuke the boss instantly as a group then grab the gacha and move on. Thats if the camp is in your routing line anyway.
>>528360079I'd rather play Raider and not get to low hp
>>528359920Ive hit 14-15 basically every run the past couple of days as long as we went into the castle at level 5~
Havent actively thought about pathing at all just farm castle early, skip BBH if hes in the cuck cellar and kill some field bosses
You can minmax it sure but it really isnt needed
>>528357352Thanks for the carry Havelbro, I usually have to ping anything so it eas nice to be able to just follow someone for once. It's embarrassing that I got hit once in that Gnoster fight, even if it was just to the poison.
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>>528360224NTA but before joining erg lobbies I would only occasionally hit 14. Since I've played with erg I hit 15 every match. Thanks ps bros.
>>528359920No you
Doing full castle sweep before level 8 is the most retarded thing you can even think about doing, no matter if it's trolls/cruible/banished, and it's massive waste of time on low level
And I honestly doubt that you had level 7-8 by the time of first circle
>bbbbug my favorite streamer assmongol saidNo one cares
>>528360036im just smarter than you. you go check castle, if its bbh then you skip basement and do other mobs, then go south and do the field boss there or get ruins and churches. see the rain was closing in on the southern side so you should be making a souhtern side strategy not "getting north before you cant" because you can always get it day 2 if you want but theres so much stuff on the map you arent going to bet getting everything so the whole idea of "get it while you can" is retarded unless its the final rain before the night fight.
>play with randoms
>fun time beat boss easy
>play with friends
>cant make it past night 1
>>528360079or just don't get hit.
>dlc character isn't some grafted abomination
dogshit game
>>528360036>>528360180I don't know man. I see your side of it and play like you but I might also delay the run to the castle by 1 encounter due to the white ring having the castle inside it. That is a lot of time before the second pulse on the ring closure starts up. If I was in the game with you and knew what we'd killed like I know now I'd have ran north to the hawk tree then east then use another hawk tree to go south and hit that church lol.
Prolly isn't what you want to hear but its what I'd do. We'd be fine lol.
>>528360378same experience with my two brothers
both play games, both have beaten elden ring yet they suck
>>528357352gg, thanks for the crater run, almost never get to play it without paying the new currency for it
when visage dropped and i remembered we were on bugs i knew what must be done
>>528359920>groups that don't run to castle on third level, don't usually reach level 15Opposite
>>528360403BUT I WANT TO BE HIT
>>528360378>cant make it past night 1That's disturbing
>>528360254>It's embarrassing that I got hit once in that Gnoster fightehh, i got a beat up a bit just holding L2 down but it was cooking them so fast it didn't even matter.
>>528360480I made it bros
I finally got sneeg
also birbstone, kinda i don't think guarding counts as taking damage iirc rip
>>528360582I was hitting the moth but I dont know WHAT you guys were doing to Shears because that bitch was on like 1/3hp or less before even going into phase 2
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sorry for reviving you right when he's about to aoe lol
good job team!
Guys should I play this game in multiplayer? I don't really want to drag randoms down not knowing what to do.
>>528360659Would blocking an attack that does elemental damage and you take chip damage proc it?
>>528360464>if i maeke up le stuff up in muh head then m le heckin rightcool story bro
>>528360763that I am unsure about, I just know guarding attacks is said to not proc it in the spreadsheet
>>528360762ya
>>528360762dont play solo unless its for a remembrance or something.
and dont worry about being bad, after like 2 games youll be as good as the average rando lol
>>528360762Majority of randoms don't know what to do either so it's fine, learn together
a big part of why guardian struggles in groups is because people wont pick up "less likely to be targetted"
playing with friends who pick up 5 offensive passives + 1 less aggro vs playing with randos who mix damage and defenses is night and day. Both because you have aggro more and guard counter/reflect spam and because they can just unload
>>528360659Doing his special block should trigger it. You get a big resist boost when doing it so you feel like you don't take damage but you take a little damage.
>>528360684That shield is retardedly OP vs fire weak enemies.
Even just as a purple it shits out damage in Nightreign, it feels like it does(proportionally) even more damage than it did in Elden Ring.
i had no idea how godfrey axe works. i just spammed L2 and R2. didn't know it's a buff that stays on.
>>528349848Hound Knight with unique curved sword and claw attacks. Innate blood hound step.
>>528360947same
I wish they were real
who are these new names with weird pathing and why do i keep getting matched with them please make it stop... i just want some chill weekend gaming
>>528350248Is this why we got robbed of elite knight set...
>>528361071what did they path weirdly to?
Lowly ergites! I'm gonna rape you until your dick falls off!
>>528357702You niggas aren't actually skipping the prelates, are you?
>>528360798>making stuff upWe are on the internet
Place famous for people trying to make themselves look better than in real life, while making others look worse.
The only 100% confirmed fact from your story is you wanting to do castle the second first night circle appeared. And you being extremely defensive and shitting on any other suggestion which already makes you look suspicious
For everything else we need to take your word on it.
i have no idea what duchess character skill does
>>528361215slowly drives everyone insane with suboptimal tick tick tick tick timing
God I'm glad the game caps out at level 15.
Can you believe the autismo fits we'd have if you could infinitely level
>>528361185you can look on the image and see where we have done already, if you think we are lvl 3 by that point you are an actual moron.
>>528361215It plays time over from the last few sec. So say Wylder does his ult, then Duchess uses skill = 2x Wylder ult dmg
>>528361215provides more visual clutter, so you cant tell what the enemy is actually doing.
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>Only ever beat giga Adel with 3 Wylder with my friends
>Finally beat it on our favorite characters
I'm so happy! Big shoutout to me panicking and getting eaten a bunch, but because I had 4 items + 1 talisman with DR at low health I would survive every time and my friends would get in a lot of free damage. Also big shoutout to Miquella's Ring Of Light for letting me go wild.
>>528359541Yes, typically you need to complete a run with that character before it opens up a new chapter. Raider even needs you to do two for one of his.
there's no reason not to do hard mode since it gives normal mode rewards too and more of them
>tfw swapping from Guardian to Raider
>>528361413Well the nightlord is more fun too, so yeah.
>>528361367>mfw an anon is happy and he shares his positive experiences with us
GGs PSNbros, some of the most one sided games I've ever had so far!
>>528361275you still get a bunch of free stat choices from plowing through bosses so all the active things that result in you getting a ton of runes are worthwhile regardless.
but yea, it makes the party rune relic effect just an -okay- bonus instead of meta
>>528361413>dont care for most of the rewards>hate adelwhat now?
>>528360763i don't think so
>>528359541Memory fragments can drop on any run, but its 100% gurrenteed when you kill a nightlord. Note that some memory fragments require more than one nightlord kill.
>>528360762That doesn't stop them
blood loss at low hp is underrated. That shit stays on for ages, not just while you're low
>>528361127we pinged evergaol on the edge, everyone agrees yet one went for a camp that's along the way so the other followrd. time was wasted and we couldn't do the gaol and grab a flask nearby to it.
on another run i pinged a cathedral at the start which will lead to a quick flask at the edge, they agree, then one ran off to a different cathedral without pinging?? like i wouldn't mind if that person pinged so i know that they want to go there instead...
>>528361438>a recluse taking off her her hat and becoming the lighter revenant so the raider can carry her more easily
>>528361550it goes off when you crit for some reason and stays on for about a whole minute
>>528361550I'll give it a shot next time I see it I've been ignoring it.
>>528361413It literally does not it gives sigils and unlocks the sigil shop
>>528360659Honestly? Windwhirl is not really worth it, would have been better if it was saving dive
>>528361438isn't weighted clothing basically irrelevant when you can destroy planets with little effort
>>528361598>crit animations remove hitbox entirely>game thinks youre low on hpHmmmmmmm
>>528361615You get those on top of all the other normal rewards you get.
>>528361571Yeah I don't get it
It's the team game with 3 people on the cover art and you queue in teams of 3
This I should run off on my own and play it like a single player game
Rando logic
>>528361658early dragonball power level was my hero academia-tier
>>528361658Itโs supposed to represent earthโs training methods in Z but itโs also a remnant from DB and early Z where you couldnโt easily destroy the planet.
>>528361598Damn so thats why it has such good uptime
>>528361720I misread the post my b
>>528361071It's most likely lurkers who were playing with friends or randoms who had to play with erg to get their giga-adel win(s)
Might have got a taste of the good life and are staying around for more.
>>528361571if you ping a church that has a monument with a guaranteed caster item in it on the way then expect the caster to go there and get it every time unless they already have the staves they need. Ill trade a flask for a good staff any day. If a guy on my team pings a church across the map and passes important monuments or bosses on the way then i assume we are not gonna beat adel desu.
>>528361727Game director literally said that game designed for everyone running solo and only teaming up for big day 2 bosses
Also, does cover really has 3 people on it?
>>528361729I don't know what that means
>>528361739>a remnant from DB and early ZDB sure, but even in early DBZ piccolo destroys the moon and vegeta threatens to destroy earth
>>528361367wylder really does feel like easy mode but i don't want to play other characters
>>528361857>game designed for everyone running solo and only teaming up for big day 2 bossesthen why do ALL the bosses have more health in trios then?
>>528361880ironeye is even easier
>>528361857>designed for running around solo>x3 boss hp at all times and not just if x are nearbyUh-huh
someone please take the pathfinder duty away from me
>>528361598huh, i was wondering why that was happening in my solo runs
>>528361857>devs were expecting people to solo BBH on day 1 like that is normal and people would want to do thatfuck outta here
>>528361857>Game director literally said that game designed for everyone running solo and only teaming up for big day 2 bossesYet the game mechanics discourage that
>>528362030>american reading comprehension
RIP shadow wizard cunny gang
Sorry rev squad, I choked too many times
>>528361702I don't think it even triggers on low HP, the description is just wrong
>>528361071I'm convinced that the new adel brought in a wave of new players or something. This started when he released.
>>528361316Oh shit, I understand now. That looks cool
I tried on the marionette and was wondering why it sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't...
Thanks
>>528362002felt bad a few runs ago because we cleared a chunk of the map and half of the castle on day 1, did a nearby red boss then the rest of the castle and the circle narrowed to exactly the full-cleared castle, dead red boss, and the shit we did day 1
we had to go scavenge an evergaol key, do the last evergaol in the circle, then a few kill weak world bosses and open mage towers lmao(non-mage team)
>>52836204850/50 if you are doing camps close to each other everyone gets runes, and shit like non golem cathedrals don't really need more than one player for fast clears
And castle with trolls is better if everyone is doing their own troll
>>528361879Vegeta wouldโve destroyed the earth with that Galick Gun. Destroying the moon has always been a weird thing in Dragon Ball because it was done by Roshi all the way back in early DB, but itโs still just done with their strongest energy-based attack at max charge. Early Z was when destroying mountains and cities with some charge was common (weโre ignoring that filler where Vegeta destroyed a planet with one finger more easily than Frieza) and then it was Ape Vegeta who was destroying mountains without much effort at all. Frieza saga was when it got really powerful, like in terms of physical destructiveness, thatโs where the series sorta plateaus until Buu does interdimensional stuff and kills every person on earth with millions of homing bullets.
im too stupid to open mage towers
>>528362248Someone posted our password on fextra "use password erg (elden ring gamers) for a free carry"
even with the most goated equipment and stats people will still instadown to everdark adel
i just kinda gave up and soloed him until my ult came back up and we won then ironeye dropped all his equipment like wow what a badass bro you totally didn't down 10s into the fight
>>528362413You still have to route to eachothers boss drops so it's obectively less efficient
>>528361841i said in my post it was at the start, so of course you wouldn't fight bosses on the way at level 2 and the cathedral (ghost knight/flame man/white fatties) is close to our drop off point. if you're moving to a different cathedral nearby, then why not ping it?
you're probably thinking of flask churches
>>528362448>Revenant>carrying
>>528362448That Ironeye carried you.
>>528361880Wylder is so fun. His design is sooo cute too. I want to play with his helmet wings and eat his bread and tell him he's going to be ok. I wouldn't say he's easy mode though. He just stacks really well with 3 of him since you can all grapple and be on the monster at all times and unga bunga together and everyone can do their guts arm together.
>>528362571he got grabbed 3 times
so technically he is the one getting carried but in adels mouth
>play with friends or erg
>get absolutely horrible shit
>team steamrolls
>play with randoms
>get amazing loot rng
>team shits the bed
>>528361857The directors a fucking retard who was probably talking politely for an interview then. If you play like that on erg expect to get doxxed by a big chilla like me
>>528362423Watch a YouTube video with all the solutions. You'll never struggle again
Except for the moving tree stump shit. Fuck those assholes.
>>528362649I donโt blame him.
Those grabs are the only moves that hit me.
>>528360079>>damage negation on knockbackThis is one of the best relic mods regardless of whatever you're going for
>>528363116How do you not get hit by half the aoes. That shit never lines up with where it displays for me. Yes I jump but the triple is designed to jump punish
>>528363116Just dodge straight into his grab. It's easier because you get a cool special dodge animation that also gives you ult gauge back.
>>528363285>designed to jump punishNo it's not, there's so much time in between the aoes, obviously you're going to get hit if you're just not timing at all and mashing jump but it's a lot more lenient than mashing roll instead.
gave /erg/ a try, was pretty fun, lost my hard mode winstreak though.
>>528363745psbros wouldn't have let you down
>>528363860ngl doing a decent chunk of final boss is already a win for me, I really enjoyed /erg/ more than random retards that pick gameruining bosses day 1.
GG, that adel felt extra niggardly. constantly doing his most cringe AOEs and dashes
>>528362225the 2x rev/1x duchess game?
that game didn't drop anything good for me at all, just awful luck that I had to do the mine post night 2
>>528364130yeah, I lurked for a while and most of my wins were vigor raider, but seeing as there was one dude being literally DSP on it I didn't really want to play it, maybe I should've.
>>528363745probably my fault at the end there, fucker just kept clipping me with shit and then i choked when he targeted me, couldn't roll out of his 2 chomps after the first hit me for some reason
>>528364392don't sweat it, anyways I'll roll a smoke and queue again in like 2m
>>528364493yeah fuck it one more for the boys
Really can't say I enjoy Gigadel as Raider. Felt a lot better killing it with Duchess and Wylder.
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>>528365006gg anon
adel and BBH were fuckers, but we got them in the end
>>528365006>>528365053whoops, used reply to open the post window
>>528365053Got my first random crash in 160~ hours of playing this during that run and lost almost two levels worth of runes. Could've been worse, I guess.
much better, ggs foam and os
ggs
yeah it's easier on braindead class
>>528358561You'll get more-or-less-guaranteed ones if you're doing a Remembrance quest that requires one. Otherwise it's random. After defeating at least one Everdark Sovereign the Ceremonial Signboard can let you pay Sovereign Sigils to trigger one you want.
Does anybody want a carry on any boss or we tryna just everdark like autists tonight ?
asking before I q
>>528350324Incredible image
>>528361729No, it wasnโt. Early Dragon Ball would still decimate MHA. You would need like, kid goku at his weakest or Tao Pai or whatever his name was to argue that.
>>528361739Dude, even Roshi could destroy the moon.
>>528362419>Early Z was when destroying mountains and cities with some charge was commonWhat? Are you forgetting when Nappa when pointed his finger at a city and made it disappear? Or Frieza (technically early Z) pretty much thinking and wiping out an entire mountain range?
The series doesnโt plateau there, Cell was capable of destroying the solar system and we know he wasnโt the strongest either.
I wish were were getting more day 1/2 bosses along side enhanced nightlords
>>528362634That's all well and cool but only if you suck his BWC too
>>528346260>Gaols are a noob trap>Rune discount is rarely needed, better for solo.>Increased run acquisition is a common enough relic that you should have it on a better random one.Honestly wouldn't use it over Night of the Fathom if you want a good generic team oriented Red.
>>528354767massive jeet cope
>>528356118man this part was so fun i miss reading it for the first time
>>528357029t. victim of trvkes
shut up tard
>>528357197>>528357480youโre thinking of truth bomb. truth nuke and trvke is distinctly sharty related.
>>528355473>tfw rolled a +2 end, +2 vig and +runes relic
>>528370078>Dude, even Roshi could destroy the moon.*Roshi charging up his strongest attack and using a form which is seemingly impractical in actual combat at this point (must be, since he never whipped it out against King Piccolo).
Considering the circumstances, it's not really fair to scale the rest of Dragon Ball to Roshi's moon destroying gag. We don't get "practical moon destruction" until DBZ.
>>528375046why are you trying so hard to force this, it's just a va
you don't force brit memes on every other npc in every fromsoft game
>>528359301they should. your taste is dogshit.
>>528360762thatโs literally the only way to play it dude. single player isnโt an option despite it being there.
>>528362832Fucking based
>>528361857He lied through his teeth
>>528376029thereโs nothing to force idiot indian vas arenโt common and sound terrible itโs a meme all on its own
>>528375949I agree itโs somewhat silly considering how everyone else isnโt nearly as powerful with such explicit feats, but then again, Roshi *is* a master and certainly superior to pretty much just about everyone barring like 2-3 people at that point relative time period in the story.