Thread 528407969

sloppa edition

>Demo Days
Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-62
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>528306192

write a review of /agdg/

>>528408227
sometimes i leave but i always come back, so it has to be good / 10

>getting jacked didn't get me a girlfriend
>a good career didn't get me a girlfriend
>being nice didn't get me a girlfriend
>being a jerk didn't get me a girlfriend
>an expensive car didn't get me a girlfriend
>an expensive motorcycle didn't get me a girlfriend
But maybe making a game will? I'm out of ideas honestly

>>528408409
Only one way to find out.

>>528408409
just bee urself

>>528408409
try genetic engineering or just build your own girlfriend, did humans just sit and cry when they realized they couldn't fly?

>>528408227
an incoherent delusional mess

>>528408409
ask 500 women to be your gf and one might say yes(because she's nuts, but beggars can't be choosers)

>>528408227
Not Recommended

Halfway through development, the devs forgot to finish the game. You would have thought they would know better by now, but they don't.

>>528408409
Doing stuff for the sake of getting a girlfriend only will not get you a girlfriend. They can smell the desperation.
You need substance in your life and hobbies and there's no cure for poor social skills.
If you can't better yourself for yourself, why should a girl be with you?

>>528409480
>They can smell the desperation.
Too bad they can't smell domestic abusers.

>>528409608
the twist is, they can.

branno needs to get in on this podcast

>>528409608
If you're the anon I was replying to and that's your first thought I think all is fair in love and war.

>open godot
>thumbnail generation
lmao

>>528408409
stop trying

>>528408409
if you want a girlfriend, just get a girlfriend? What's with the sidequests?

>>528410035
he has anxiety

Made my first blender donut. How's it look?

>>528410204
like a donut

this hobby aint viable

>>528410035
he views the reward being a gf by completing the side-quests, and no other way besides that.
what a lot of self-improovers fail to think about, is lifting and buying a new car won't change the central thing that keeps women away (your personality and subsequent projection of it)

>>528410367
>musiclets
deserved desu

>>528371364
100% true.
Godot had two big innovations as a general purpose engine:
- gdscript being an interpreted, dynamically typed language that can call pre-compiled code
- the Node abstraction over the more complex, but still accessible, server functionality.
Most game engines two layers, a gory 'core' that's hyper-optimized and does the heavy processing like Rendering and Networking, and a softer 'shell' which allows you to write looser, easily changed scripts that call the gory core.

This is the reason Python was so successful, it provided the niceties of a programming language: complex data types, control flow, packaging, while still allowing you to call the pre-compiled Fortran or C code without having to do complex memory management or deal with pedantic type systems.
And per abstraction, many language libraries provide two interfaces: the meta-programming one that will generate boiler-plate code for you based on things like annotations and the more specific underlying code you can access if you need it. Godot Nodes and Servers are an example of this.

Unity fails in this regard by trying to use a statically-typed, 'compiled-ish' language that is C# for scripting and having an abstraction over core functionality that isn't immediately obvious. Unreal Blueprints are slightly better in this regard, but I think that visual scripting isn't expressive enough and is better suited for things like programming lab equipment rather then trying to make something so complex as a game, although a sprinkling of it in things like animation trees and state machines isn't so bad.

Can I ask for some help?
How do I get the energy back?

>>528410648
Pay the bills

>>528410648
crack

>>528410648
exercise
your body acclimates to what you do, if you're a lazy pos all day, your body is gonna conserve energy to match it.

>>528410648
creatine, taurine, coq10, cpap, cardio

>>528410648
increase your oxygen circulation

>>528410204
You didn't shade smooth the torus 0/10. I've never made a donut

>>528409962
when you think about it, it's weird that asians aren't all in on AI because of their work culture, it must mean that AI is actually just a slop toy that has no potential for actual work

i think the only viable path as a solodev is to become a prototype dev. like, make something cool first and if it really hits the right spots, you absolutely need to make a kickstarter. and then, if the kickstarter is a success, you need to hire 1-2 artists fulltime.
i don't see any other way. everything else is just wishful thinking about how you'll be superman some day, working 24/7 for 10 years alone to grind out that solodev game.

>>528411071
asians love AI lmao

https://x.com/FearedBuck/status/1935334136073404438

>>528410589
GDScript being a language specifically made for video game and the godot engine has huge advantage. It doesn't need to adapt the engine to the script.

i'm not in gamedev because i outperform others
i'm in gamedev because everybody outperformed me irl

>>528408227
>screenshot of my dota 2 hours are now an aggy meme
nice

Success breeds 100 million dollar jealousy

>>528411939
being a clone dev is one of the most cucked things

>>528411939
>>528412031
Poorfags obsessing over sales figures is the next most cucked thing

how to convince people give me money

>>528412138
when you mom and dad go to prison for fraud, you'll be obsessed with money too

>>528412138
if you worked a 9-5 wagecage cucklife you'd understand the desperation to hit it big and quit

These fucking tech bros stealing ideas and making 1 MILLION PER DAY.

Does Unity or Unreal requires network to use? I might not have access to the internet at certain occassions.

>>528412334
give the people what they want
the copycats are forced to mobile, steam users are too savvy to be scammed by blatant ripoffs of games that are already popular on steam
the average mobile gamer plays clash of clans for 30 minutes a week and nothing else
it's a much "softer" market to penetrate, but due to intense competition, requires huge marketing budgets
just making a good game with unique ideas and releasing it on steam is still a better approach if you actually care about video games
if all you want is money, just copy something popular on steam, simplify it, and spend as much money as possible on advertisements

>>528410367
>advertising on tiktok
didn't do the research so deserved to flop

>>528412296
>if you worked a 9-5 wagecage cucklife
I wish.

>>528412687
>simplify it,
upload it to mobile*
then pay for ads

steam is the pinnacle platform for real devs
all gaming culture stems from steam

this is who mobile games are designed for btw
if you were ever curious who the target consumer is
https://youtu.be/keoRX-Lni5s

compare this to the "real" gamers you know
stick to steam

Just reinvented another wheel. I now have a function for shooting projectiles.
>>528408227
Reviews were too negative. Thought I'd mix it up.

Threadly reminder that even gamedev success can be a trap.
Imagine your game earns you 10 years of income. Would you quit your job and start making games full time? If so, you'd have fallen into the same trap I did.
The crux of the trap is the time you spend as a gamedev will count against you if ever need to get a job again. And the ironic thing is the more successful you are, the more dangerous the trap will be unless you earn enough money to never need a job again.
The only way full-time gamedev would be sustainable is if your games keep earning you at least a year of expenses for every year worked... until you're literally 75. And I do mean literally. When you're 72, you'll need to sit down and make a game that earns you 3 years of expenses. Anything short of that and you'll eventually run out of money. And when you do, you'd have been 10-15-20 years out of the job market and good luck getting a job with an employment gap that big.
When you run out of money, it can take as little as a couple of months for your life to be ruined. That's what happened to me. I found myself broke at 45 and no job for the past 15 years except making games. And I'm looking at 30 more years of having to survive. I can't get job interviews, I can't afford to keep working on games, and I'm too old to get into trades. My life is probably fucked because my first project earned me 10 years of income and I quit my job like a dumb ass.
Anyway, the point of this is to warn you: DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOBS UNLESS YOU EARNED ENOUGH MONEY TO NEVER NEED A JOB AGAIN. If my warning saves even a couple of you, it's worth it.

>>528410648
Try to feel hatred
Spitemaxx

>>528410367
>trademarking a game that flopped

>>528410589
Now, what you need to remember about this idea of a scripting language covering a gory core is that it's not exclusive to Godot, it exist in many other places, and you can take advantage of it.
Here are some examples of where else you can find the pattern:
- Your web browser using JavaScript
- Shell scripting that calls the operating system
- Supreme Commander used Lua scripting on top of their engine and is the RTS with the most units
- Halo 1 and 2 used a lisp-dialect called BlamScript
- Balatro and SNKRX both used Lua(a scripting language) and Love2D, a framework over an OpenGL backend
Looking back, Unreal and Unity are kind of anomalous and I think history will show it as great mistake that we tried to Frankenstein C# and C++ into game programming. Not a knock against any hard core Rust or C chads who know how hexagon arch. works and just prefer doing their own memory management at all times, but I think it's so much easier doing iterative game design with scripting languages
>>528411412
This is also true. Not having to worry about other libraries while scripting is actually a huge relief and it integrating with the node system with things like @onready save a lot of time.
I hope we'll see more languages that are geared toward game dev in the future. I'm keeping an eye on Jank since Clojure has a history of replacing other frustrating languages: made by an irate Java programmer to replace enterprise Java, used by tired JavaScript developers who were sick of JS(ClojureScript), also used by shell programmers who were tired of writing in Shell(babashka)....
We'll see about Jai. Golang replaced Python in many instances by having lightning-fast compile times and being a very simple language(unlike C). I think Jai could do the same.

>>528413093
+1, good advice

>>528413104
doesn't work, you burn out quickly

if you can't turn 10 years of income into lifetime income, you have bigger problems

>>528408227
NODEEEEEEVS!

>>528413093
>bro had 10 years to make another game that made money, especially during easy-mode era of indie games

get a job that makes 100k a year, do it for 10 years. you now have made 1 million dollars. boom. do that and never come back to /agdg/ you fucking money fags.

>>528408227
- obnoxious tranime niggers
+ fast response
+ cris, froggy, ronnyredpill and others

>>528413680
he probably didn't expect the steam promotion algorithms to change
2019-2021 was probably a nightmare for devs who weren't aware of how dramatic this shift was

How do you call armor thickness adjusted to impact normal?

>>528413484
I could have if I'd got it in a lump sum and didn't need it to you know... live.

>>528413680
There was never an easy mode era of indie games. And I did make several subsequent games which is why I made it 16 years.

>>528413812
Honest questions. How do you pay for your food and housing? Is your cost of living covered by others, or do you work to cover it yourself?

>>528414401
See >>528414090

>>528413812
>get a job that makes 100k a year

>>528414381
Exactly how much money have you received in pocket after fees and taxes from your games to this day? What is the cost of living like in your area? What level of quality of life have you sustained over this duration?

>>528414509
I'm asking him directly. I try to avoid making assumptions. I have been proven wrong many times before.

i'm literally unjobbable because of pic rel
the jobby is my only hope before total and utter crash out

>>528413812
A "100k a year" job is not nearly enough. After taxes, food, and housing you're luck to be able to put even 30k a year in the bank. You need closer to a "350k a year" job for 10 years to be able to get a million in the bank. And that's assuming it's just you. Good luck if you're married with kids.

I think he's my favorite

>>528414675
Sorry to hear about your tejuino goblina syndrome

>>528411939
>>528412334
Grizzly Games should seriously consider paying a company to do a mobile port for them.
It would be free money for them.

>>528414237
effectiveThickness

>>528413176
why do people like shorts?
I bounce off them every time I've tried.
When I watch youtube, I want
>precise and in depth answers to my questions (usually longer videos)
or
>slop to watch in the background like boomers did with TV (usually long form)
Shorts are content-less fluff or the few ones that talk about something don't go into enough detail.
The algorithm sucks and the swiping down will invariably give me a worse short than the one I just watched.
Also, you can't even watch them at 2x speed, which makes them ironically feel very slow to my zoomer brain. Like I'd rather watch a 10min video at 2x than a 30s short at 1x.
Will this lack of understanding normie affect my game dev?

>>528414890
It's flopping :(

>>528414890
mobile monkeys aren't interested in real games.
they want numbers go up simulators with easy pay2progress

>>528414619
>Exactly how much money have you received in pocket after fees and taxes from your games to this day?
After taxes I got $400k net within a year and then $150k net over the next 13 years or so.

>>528415085
you're not the target audience
short form content is made for children

>>528411412
How does this show?

>>528415094
That's disgusting

How to monetize a demo? also how to be consistent? Sometimes i work for 20 hrs straight only stopping to eat but sometimes i go 5 days without doing anything

>>528415326
>I got $400k net within a year
sorry you live in California or New York

>>528411275
>patil vishwajit
>@grok
these are the same normies that shill ai to the idiots that then come and start shilling it HERE.

>>528415094
Well, I guess I'm eating my shoe.
Also, I don't understand app store rankings, this other game that came out in December is ranked #177, but has way more reviews, while Thronefall mobile came out in mid-may.

>>528415094
may these developers learn that mobile markets are absolutely brutal in terms of promotion algorithm engagement
your game will only be promoted if it has high download count, high retention, and with bonus points for high in-game purchases
otherwise, it will immediately stagnate
the key to success on mobile is to create hypercasual, hyperlinear incremental games with simple progression systems, pump them full of time gates and microtransactions (to bypass these time gates), a battle-pass system for character cosmetics, with daily rewards to increase progression for this battle pass
then you spend as much money as possible on advertisements, with "ragebait" footage, to bait people into downloading and playing the free game displayed in the ads

once you gain enough players through these ads who are
- daily users
- microtransaction purchasers
- positive reviewers
the mobile app platform will then promote your game, bringing in the revenue

otherwise, your game flops
it is an incredibly ruthless platform to find success on, and boils down almost entirely to promotion budget, and the conversion rate of your advertisements

if you don't want to optimize for marketing, just stick to steam, and rely on generic social media posts to build your userbase

>>528415880
That was the 10 years of income for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIM9P7DbAPE

its over, they're invading steam and gaben is letting them

>>528408409
Your game won’t save you. Only my new powers can do that.

>>528414945
Thanks but this is also shown to players

>>528416214
wtf do these people even work as to hate their jobs so much? just burger flipping? how come so many people hate their jobs?
t. neet

Remember to wear your helmet, bros

i think 100% of all money in the gaming industry should be channeled into project zomboid

>>528417261
I think it should be channeled into my game.

>>528416097
because the chink companies that shit out these clones fill them with mtx and throw literal millions into ads, so it's impossible to compete with retarded shit like that

>>528416603
fluff shit
it's all about seeing numbers go up in a contextually relevant manner

IT'S UP!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrqbyjKPyw0

>>528416948
because jobs suck, but homelessness sucks even more
if you don't have people supporting you, you are forced to wageslave or you'll live on the streets
you can get an education, or start your own business, but both of those take incredible time and effort to provide enough money to not be homeless
being a NEET or having somebody give you free food and housing allows you to do whatever the fuck you want, but most people can't afford that luxury

>>528415094
Too stylish for mobile gamers

>>528415094
>a little kingdom

I'm actually the only normal person. Everybody else is insane and weird.

>>528417864
This guy is right, why not be Yancy so you can get money from your totally-not-Zelda game?

>building management sim where you build an orphanage
could this work? you need to keep the children happy enough or they run away/commit suicide.
they all each have unique traumas that you need to manage too, and you need to do background checks on people that try and adopt the children so you don't give them to awful people

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EBE8xLDGh8

turdies have no problem using AI, this is your competition

social media is way too fucking addicting, man
huge productivity killer
time to lock in

>>528418532
this dude gets mogged by cris

every single day i'm waiting for an epiphany

nigga is waiting for stephany

>>528419373
Wait for your epiphany whilst making something.

>>528419056
How is it addicting. 99% of the stuff I see on youtube atleast is very uninteresting so I barely spend any time on it. It's pretty useful to delete all your accounts by the way, if you have any.

>>528419939
the algorithms show you content you're interested in

My big break is due any moment now.

>>528419373
>>528419806
yes, make little prototypes of different types of mechanics as practice

>>528418286
> make your own game, instead of making a fan game
I agree with this
> Nintendo will never allow this
However, if you do make a fan game make sure it's a nintendo game just to say fuck you to their lawyers. Double based if you actually sell it.

saar, you werent born a nepobaby so you cannot make it
better luck in the next life saar

Anyone want to collab? I am a competent coder.

Another competent coder here. Anyone want to collab? (I can only do 2D.)

Good enough vibe coder here, also looking to team up.

>>528420459
Collab on what

A Naruto open world game without copyright infringement is going to break steam
>Just let the fans make the mods for real characters and stuff like it was it PES (football game)

>>528411939
They should consider suing because Kingshot is a 1-1 clone of a game they made

>>528420459
we get it you're a trans nodev

>>528419373
I envision how you lie awake and agonize
Over ways to bear your day, just every night

>>528420610
3D game. I want to do 3D

>>528414681
same with gamedev. if your game makes 1 million you'll also have to pay all sorts of shit.

>>528413093
I don’t get it. How do you come out of 15 years gamedev without marketable skills? There are plenty of job openings for experienced Unity/UE/Godot devs. Even if you were using goddamn RPGMaker or selling VNs, you should at least be plenty qualified as a writer.

>Grok for gameplay code
>Claude for goonbait
>SDXL for game art
>Udio for music
>ElevenLabs for voice acting
>Midjourney for Steam capsule
>Veo3 for cinematic trailer

>>528421049
all you need is any viable LLM for code generation
that's it
everything else is skill issue
2 b h

>>528420637
>furiously jots down everything anon has written
Uh, *gulp* anything else?

i think the only way to yesdev is via losing weight and eating a diet that cures all sort of inflammation, hormonal imbalances and pain in your body.

>>528421631
healthmaxxing gamedevs will rule the world

>>528421049
>The C Programming Language book and a compiler for code
>Custom pixel art editor for sovlfvl retrokino
>Handcrafted handwired electronic midi keyboard with a custom sequencer and music format composition DAW
>homeless dude on the street speaking into your handcrafted fine-tuned microphone
>no cinematic trailer because it's soulless

if i'd write my own c++ engine i'd still use c# scripting. it'd be especially cool for modding.

>>528421631
if you eat only wild caught meat and hand reared fish you can envision the rendering pipeline in your mind

i wish i could just make games with a level editor. like, i get tons of assets, building tools like minecraft or the sims. and then i make my game like that. without having to do anything from scratch.

>>528421012
Yeah, after taxes and fees and other junk, a million gross would be maybe 300k in the bank. Obviously very nice to have and potentially life changing, but still not "quit your day job" money.

i have un-given up

No one ever wants to collab

>>528421023
>How do you come out of 15 years gamedev without marketable skills?
I'm not getting job interviews, that's all I know. I guess it has something to do with being 46 and having no employment history and hiring managers don't want to take any risks when they have plenty of "normal" candidates.

>>528423410
People always want to collab, they just can never find a single vision that everyone can agree on (unless they're getting paid, in which case people are more willing to compromise their vision in exchange for a paycheck)

wanting to become rich is equal to wanting to pay a lot of taxes to the government you despise.
just make a free game like dwarf fortress.

>>528423580
I don't care about vision, just let me work on something!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where do you find voice actors willing to work for cheap? Just mass DM people on Twitter and haggle?

>>528423670
If you're seriously willing to work on a vision you don't care about for free, you can work on my current game with me (you're actually not, you just think you are because you're bored or hungry or something)

My game is apparently too abstract for the average person, not really sure how, but that's apparently it.

insanity is when you browse the same websites and topics everyday and expect different outcomes

>>528423410
Gomenasorry... My workflow does not lend itself well for collabs.

>>528423584
I don't despise the government. I just want to have to worry about rent and have enough money for my copes.

I'm making a PS2 inspired 3D platformer as my first commercial project.
I don't care if it wont make money, I want to make the platformer I always wanted as a kid.
It's going to have a cool alien protagonist and stuff

>>528424128
fear based mindset will go nowhere

I can breathe for a moment.

>>528420459
yeah sure, let's do it bro, I'm a competent nothingdoer

>>528424423
I just want to live in comfort and distract myself until I die. I don't want anything else from life.

>>528423410
everyone here can code the only ones who can start collabs are artists

i feel like isometric 2D is extremely underrated. playing project zomboid i don't see anything negative about it. a lot of detail in objects and all it costs is drawing a single sprite. with 3d models that'd take a lot of triangles. also you don't get any weird uv stretching issues or anything like that. and also you don't have to do pbr maps for objects. it just looks good as it is. and it looks more artistic because of that.

is there a reason why isometric 2D is almost never used? i mean you can still mix it with low poly meshes for animated or freely rotated objects.

>Make the same ad but in Great Britain
>Have to say "Quid", "Chips", and "Petrol".

>>528413093
This copypasta has been spammed quite a bit already, but no one ever seems to bother to add explicit information on what exactly qualifies as "never have to work again" money and why "10 years of income" is not enough.

In order to never have to work again, you need to be able to survive off interest alone. The "retirement rule" is 4%, but you can't actually use that because the rule was made up for 60 year old boomers planning on their last paycheck to bounce. You will be forced to draw down the principal and in danger of running out of money within 40 years if you use 4%. To never have to work again, you need to be more conservative and use 2%.

Let's be incredibly optimistic and say "10 years of income" comes out to about a million. 2% a year off a lump sum of a million in the bank is only 20k a year. Be a short sighed boomer wanting your money to run out and 4% is still only 40k a year. Not enough to sustain you. You'll still have to work.

2% a year of 10 million is 200k, which might be enough. So you'll need money in the tens of millions to quit your day job.

If I'm just posting a demo for whatever I can use copyrighted art right? Pic related, I like this asset pack for overworld tiles.

99.4% White Wishlists (this is the hidden metric most people won't tell you about)

Wondering why marmoreal failed with 10k wishlists? they were all brown

Wondering how tok got 100 reviews with 15k wishlists? they were all brown

Wondering why bokube is going to fail with 10k wishlists? they were all brown.

WHITE WISHLISTS MATTER

>>528425521
@Gork is this true?

>>528425521
mine are all japanese
my game is not in japanese

>>528425336
bro, don't you know everyone here is a Warren Buffett tier investor and all they need is like $100k to buy stock to get a 1000% annual returns?

>>528425243
>is there a reason why isometric 2D is almost never used?
sprite-art workload
there is no reason in 2025 to spend time drawing isometrics when you can model everything in 3D and just lock the camera

>>528423826
I am serious.
>>528424118
Just tell me to code something and I will make it.

>>528426341
I want this how do I do this?

>>528426341
>jap gamers
congrats on your gay tranny coomslop lmao

>>528426947
get a fucking life loser

>>528426881
make an AGP game

>>528426341
based, gmi

i think what i really need isn't a solo gamedev project, but a solo programming softwaredev project. but that seems soooooo much harder than gamedev. like, in gamedev you can at least make up something and its cool. but in softwaredev literally everything exists already.

>>528427056
cope and sneed gay jap porn fag lmao

>>528427276
But there are many ways to program something, even if something already exists you can make it work differently, or have less dependencies, or be native to some other language, etc

Good morning.
Working on textures and playing around with adding freckles.

>>528407969 (OP)
today i made lots of progress
you didn't waste all your day shitposting, right anon?

>>528427895
pedotroon

>>528427937
No, I made very little progress at a very high cost....

>>528427895
cute

>>528427937
i worked of the damage system and then had a wank

/agdg/ is like a class room with 95% class clowns and 5% get nowhere because of that, but they can't leave because they are afraid they'll end up lonely if they leave.

>>528427895
pedochad

>>528425521
So you saw my post from a few threads back

>>528427895
>freckles enjoyer
Not my jam but I can appreciate it.
Pic unrelated.

>>528427895
Cute!

>>528426801
Make a game that is easy to add character data in glTF+some plaintext format so AGDG devs can easily contribute characters from their games by making the model/script and uploading it somewhere.

>>528428295
NOO I was gonna make a game called V-Pet with the same premise

>>528427895
I will spend the rest of the day in the blender mines now.

why the fuck are desktop pets a thing again
not even the good one

>>528425521
>western europe
>north america
>white
literally less than 50% white nowadays

>>528427895
Collab?

>>528428709
>she's the next agdg loli
this is technically a collab

>>528428918
I meant collab on a game.

>>528428987
yes you get a loli
just make the game

What's the best post-war game idea?

>>528427895
why though?

>>528429210
oh okay. can we also be friends?

>>528429530
no i have trust issues

>>528428709
I can't collab right now.

no no no no no no no no no this is not the game I wanted to make

>>528428216
No, what was it?

what is the autism-soul conversion rate? is there a minimum autism needed to generate soul? is there a maximum autism?

>>528420031
not since like 2018ish when they cracked down on "conspiracy" and "racist" content. Everything is bland and monetized now.

i added automation shit that looks about 8x more convoluted than it really is and thus explaining it will be impossible

>>528430045
as a conspiring racist I take that personally

>>528429665
Can we be friends?

>>528430606
Sure.

>>528430849
Discord?

>>528427056
he's right, japs (east asians in general) mostly only care about degenerate stuff like porn, they don't have any real interest in your game and they just want porn

>>528431056
Just don't be weird.
elbrdev

>sharing discord on agdg
sounds like a terrible idea

How is your clone dev hustle and bustle going? Almost done with that stand up dev log for your solo developed indie game? Have you found a publisher yet? You need a publisher. You need a publisher right now.

Bros...
My game can't use AI voice acting after all...

https://www.replicastudios.com/blog/replica-studios-ceasing-operations

voice actors won ...

>>528431252
Clone hustle is for those who cannot create their own Leyden jar

>-Quest Tracker-
>A Gentleman and a Scholar
>>say the N-word (0/9999)

>>528431379
>In such a competitive start up market, Replica has been unable to secure funding to ensure the continuation of the business and as such is closing down operations at the end of June 2025.
hold on a second, in order to stay competitive arent you supposed to provide a better product and sell more of said product? if your business relies on "securing funding" that doesnt really sound like a business to me

>>528431427
>Leyden jar
Is that like a cum jar?

>>528431216
Added you (not that anon)

>>528431615
95%+ of US tech companies are loss leaders only sustained only by investment. You make your money not from selling a product, but by selling potential market share to investors.

>>528431797
Early battery, origin of the phrase "lightning in a bottle".
Stick your dick in one at your own peril.

>>528430182
some of those icons need to be a lot clearer

>>528431907
Don't add me, cris, you stupid retard

>>528429890
soul is like the game, when you think about it you've already lost.

>>528431615
it's AI.
No AI company is actually profitable, it's all just farming investments and yelling AI IS THE FUTURE, GIVE ME MONEY

and people actually fall for it because they have nothing better to do with their money, lmao

test

>>528433427
>they have nothing better to do with their money, lmao
They could give them to meeeeeee

>>528431496
what do I win?

>>528434041
Unremovable title "is a Nazi" and other players are now allowed to punch you (you can't fight back). Also your subscription fee doubles.

>>528408227
the early game had me deeply excited to learn more and be motivated
the mid game got a little stale, but I had fun helping other anons
now at the end it's awful but I can't stop playing because I'm too invested

Your game doesn't have to appeal to as many people as possible to be good. Filtering people should be your goal. Easily filtered people in general should be aggressively kept away from your game because they are always going to cause problems later if you don't remove them early and often

>>528427895
pedoGOD

My game has broad appeal.

>>528434849
which is meaningless. It comes with its own drawbacks and complications

>>528434849
>half the market will only play games with you-know-whats
>the other half will not play any game with a single you-know-what

>>528434974
And, that is fine, so long as it sells well. The Steam algorithm strongly favors games with board appeal over niche games.

>>528425118
everyone here *thinks* they can code

>>528435159
But history does not

Looking forward to creating my 'One year game developer journey with C and SDL' video. Shit's gonna be good.

>>528435125
>half the market
more of a 99-1 issue

I'm making a game for fun and because I want people to play it.

My game is designed to filter aggydaggy devs first and foremost

>>528435159
>The Steam algorithm strongly favors games with board appeal over niche games
a lot more broad appeal games fail than niche appeal game

>>528435261
Video game developers are not rock stars. You are a pathetic, insignificant loser and no one will remember you.

>>528435626
But they will remember my games
>>528435601
truth

>>528435601
>>528435731
Cope.

>>528435804
Look it up. Why do you think that the agdg games that fail the most are the more generic and mass-audience games?

My game will get me a girlfriend. At this point it's a sure deal

>>528435907
You're the one that needs to go do market research instead of cherrypicking whatever small sample anecdotes you feel like support your preconceived notions. Or not who cares, because you're NGMI anyways, retard.

https://games-stats.com/steam/tags/
https://steamdb.info/
https://vginsights.com/
https://gamalytic.com/

Last month I spent learning about octrees and compute shaders and worked on an SVO.
This month I will spend hitting the gym and art devving.

>>528431496
my ide won't let me write quests like this

>>528436164
I spend half my day on those sites. The bigger genres have overwhelming amounts of flops because they are full of monkey grifters trying to make a quick buck. The players are spoiled for choice so they stick to the top games, and even then they forget them after a week because they have new games to try. You don't understand how the mainstream economy works. Disposable. Highly-Competitive. Stale.

So I got a MIDI keyboard with knobs and now I think I wanna make the music myself too. Haha gonna be 10 more years at least but it will be fun.

not gonna make it to DD again bros
started this project at the beginning of the year haven't been able to submit a single time yet

>>528435252
I try convincing people they don't even need to know how to code to make most indie games. If you aren't programming your own lighting logic, then wtf do you need to be smart for. Just learn what a dictionary is, a list, a foreach loop, and make your fucking game. "Muh design patterns" gtfo. The only "Pattern" I learned was a state system. That's it.

>>528415604
Integration of the syntax to the engine, being able to directly used nodePath is by itself a fucking great thing.

>>528436083
You have it backwards. You're supposed to get a girlfriend in order to make a better game. Making a good games is the end, not the means.

When are marnixdevs gonna fuck off and leave us alone?

Just like bake game lighting.

>>528436484
In the exact same situation as you, hah. Maybe we can make it to dd64 at least?

>>528436380
The only thing that matters is supply and demand. Bigger genres are bigger because they have higher demand, but some of them also have too much supply. For example, metroidvanias have high demand but also an oversupply, and are therefore ultra-competitive and require a very high quality entry in order to compete. However, farming sims have high demand but low supply, and so just about any mediocre entry will sell for millions. I don't think anyone in their right mind would consider farming games a small niche genre.

>>528436565
System complexity grows exponentially with the addition of every system that can interreact with others. Complex systems have not survived the /agdg/ competency crisis.

>>528436993
ahaha yea bro totallyyy im totally gonna have a demo with content and not just sit in my debug room all day feature creeping and stuff

I only shitpost when I'm compiling, so really the worse /agdg/ is, the more is getting done.

>>528437052
Genres like farming sims and RTS games and open world RPGs, etc. might have a low supply but you have to ask yourself why that is. It's because those games are much harder and time-consuming to make than your average indie game in the usual indie genres. Sure, you have less competition, but these are genres that require your full commitment, and either a lot of money or a lot of time or both

>>528437253
Refactoring code to reduce complexity is allowed. If you think the only way to handle complex systems, is complex design patterns that implement interfaces, or multiple levels of polymorphism and abstraction, then you are wrong.

That reminds me though, I do have a very simple save system on one my games. Basically a save, load, update UI method. Then I add this to everything that needs saving. And I just loop through every class that uses it. Very simple. It's ok to use "complex" features in straight forward, simple to read, simple to debug ways.

>>528437419
Actually I take this back, I just had to compile twice because I spelled something wrong both times so that isn't really true all the time.

m*rnix and his consequences have been a disaster for /agdg/

>>528437670
>Refactoring code to reduce complexity is allowed
yeah, people that don't code don't even know what refactoring means

>>528437838
Marnix's issue is not programming. It's art and knowing what game to make.

>>528437918
It's just writing things in a way to get the same result, but simpler. A Mexican restaurant near me had a lunch menu that was literally 1-100. Where many identical items were on the list, but 1 came with beans, and 2 came with rice, and 3 came with both. It was a fucking mess. They refactored the menu and now it's far more easy for the user to engage with.

>>528437670
That's fine for when you're working by yourself, but you can't just do major refactors when you collab, since you basically need to block everyone else out of those systems for however long it takes to do those refactors.

Think of it this way: how many /agdg/ "programmers" are capable of getting a PR accepted by a big repo like Godot or Blender? How many are capable of writing and maintaining a decently popular plugin/addon? Most self-taught devs have no clue what it takes to work with other software developers.

hot slime pussy in a neighborhood near you

>>528438282
mu PRs get always accepted at my job

>>528438282
You can do major refactors. And ya, it's like you said, you block people out or whatever you need to do. If it can be done for a corp with hundreds of programmers and dozens of teams, it can be done with a 2 person agdg team.

It's harder to update Blender safely and effectively than to make a game with 1 or 2 people, so idk what your point is there. I'm saying making an indie game is usually easy. Not that programming overall is easy.

one step at a time
slow and steady wins the race

>>528438659
how does slime puss feel like?

>>528438847
>If it can be done for a corp with hundreds of programmers and dozens of teams
most large companies never do major refactors, amount of technical debt in code written over 20 years is so large they run out of allocated budget and drop the refactoring project

>>528439051
False. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>528439129
I know about cases of this happening in SAP and Microsoft

>>528439019
god I wish I knew

>>528439323
Tell me how that relates to Indie games.

>>528439430
it doesn't. Doesn't change the fact that it's not "false"

>>528438719
Anon...there's nobody checking thtem

Do you know if anybody actually wants to play your game?

>>528439716
me

>>528439583
>it doesn't.
Good, thanks for admitting you're just babbling and being arbitrary and obtuse. Just because there exists some code, somewhere, that people don't update for fear of breaking shit, doesn't mean that companies don't rewrite massive areas of code ALL THE TIME.

>>528439716
I know, they don't

>>528439374
>that elbow bend
Please learn to rig semi properly before posting jesus fucking christ

Imagine all the awesome games one could make in such a cool comfy space. I wish my dev room wasn't so plain, it stifles my creativity

>>528407969 (OP)
If 90 new games are released on Steam every day, how come there isn't a single fucking below $20 I would like to play?

>>528439878
>farts

>>528439878

imagine being a kid and going to your friend's house and his dad is cooped up in this thing playing gooner gacha games

>>528439878
Seems like it would hurt your neck and or put you to sleep. Anyway I need 3 monitors.

>>528439129
He's right. Big companies never refactor. They're all running on decade old tech barely held together with duct tape. At most, they'll pay a team to attempt to rewrite entire portions of the codebase in parallel, but those rewrites almost never pan out.

>>528440028
85 are slop
4-5 are targeting a niche
0-1 has a shot of making a lasting impression

>>528415085
When I commute in the morning I see people doomscrolling shorts. I don't know if it's youtube, instagramm, facebook, tiktok or whatever, they are all the same. But it is what they. I guess when you have to sit alone till your destination 20 minutes every day, it is a viable option.

>>528440318
Ok Mr Normie Reddit fun fact guy. Go fuck yourself. I honestly hate you mother fuckers so much.

>>528440028
>>528440325
For all your pretensions of being better than the "slop" being shoveled out on Steam, the fact is that your game is no different from the "slop" from the perspective of Steam's object algorithm, meaning that your game is objectively "slop" too.

>>528440754
>If a tree falls in the forest, but the algorithm doesn't show it, did it really fall?

>>528440208
>I need 3 monitors.
Cringe

>>528440898
The Steam algorithm is an objective measure of a game's quality because Valve has written it to optimize their profits. It is objective proof that your game is no better than the supposed "slop" you look down on.

>>528441071
Lol I like Eric, but this is one time I differ from him. I get his mindset though, it's normal to use 1 if you've never had 2. 2 is optimal for many, I enjoy 3 however.

>>528440126
>his dad
*mom's husband

>>528441258
>Anon regressed to worship

>>528441407
I have to monitors but only use one. If you need two monitors you either don't know how to use the taskbar or are hacking into nasa servers or some shit.

>>528441071
2 offers so much flexibility that 1 lacks. 3rd is good for teams/slack/local goon pic generation you need to have always open but check every 5-10 minutes

>>528442117
Finally someone reasonable.

>>528440754
Steam's algorithm is designed to filter out slop to keep the store page usable. You can just look at the new releases section and see how most of the games in the unfiltered set aren't shown anywhere else in new and popular for proof.
My game is worse than the slop on steam because it is unfinished.

>>528441071
Based. Extra monitors are just extra distractions fighting for one's attention

>>528442106
tabbing start to get messy if you have more than two programs you need to keep track of and especially if you need two of them open at the same time to cross reference information

>>528441071
Should I get into Star Trek to ericmaxx?

>>528410204
Nice job, anon. Hope you continue to get better with Blender and 3D in general. You aiming for low poly stuff or going higher?

>>500105751
Got the Placeholder-chan dance prototype of my engine to run on all platforms I want to support, Windows, Linux, Web and Android.
Still need to test input and sound on Android.

>>528441071
Should I work while standing with a setup like this? What are the benefits bros, and does it impact productivity or increase it?

>>528444649
The primary benefit to a raising desk is raising it to the exact height you desire and then keeping it there forever lol. I'll stand once in a while, but I fucking LOVE raising it a bit higher than standard. I also use a corner desk and would never back. I love having my elbows supported.

>>528412334
To be honest, Jonas is pretty fucking good. So I doubt he won't be able to make something again. I just didn't care for his snail game, even though it was neat

>>528444649
You should alternate between the two if nothing else because you shouldn't sit down for too long. The alternative to a standing desk is taking frequent breaks where you get up which isn't conducive to productivity

i have made $120 on patron after 9 months...

>>528446405
I wish I had this... I'd be able to afford the Steam fee...

>>528446405
Porn?

>>528446507
just suck 100 cocks

>>528447183
Instructions unclear now I have psittacosis.

1. Make it.
2. Dissolve the World.

it is very shrimple.

Did it succeed?

Pleasing the artfagdev progress.
>brighter levels
>less normals
>More saturation
>better textures
>Better colors

>>528448398
>No review from any of Arlo, Antdude, ScottTheWozz, or any other Nintendo aligned person
No

i think gamedev gets fun, when you can accept that you can't make what you want, but somehow still manage to enjoy making what you can.

>>528448758
Looks terrible. The mushrooms are too unsaturated and dark.

The grass at the bottom is too pastel still. The mushrooms at the bottom are greenish brown.

Brightness of the level is okay but I'd fix the bottom shit I just mentioned.

>>528444649
I have a similar setup to Eric, you get used to it in a couple days and it's nice when you have a low quality office chair or want to get some blood pumping. However, it can get tiring after awhile so like the other anon said, a motor standing desk so you can switch between the two is optimal.

The funny thread got 404. So what's up?

>>528447920
I WILL do it, and the world will see. And I know my path and direction will be it, and the world will bear witness to it

>>528448758
Hey boku what did you mean when you said this?
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/528081064/#528081240

>>528448934
>when you can accept that you can't make what you want
what are you talking about? I make what I want all the time.
or do you mean le AAA MMO RPG type games?

>>528352976
>>528353403
can you guys grow some critical thinking to understand intuitively that i didnt post any of the other replies in that reply chain without me needing to explain it to you

>>528411939
>when the clone looks better than the original
Not surprising. Left looks like someone hiding behind filters (shaders) to mask lack of art skill. Anyone seen his solodevved game's art?

>>528412031
>t. seething hobby dev

>>528420654
doubt we will see a repeat of triple town vs yeti town. so many clones today that i just dont see it easily holding court with a huge backlog.
>magic survivors vs vampire survivors
>magic survivors vs all the vs clones
>lethal company vs repo
>lethal company vs that lame one that was temporarily free
>lethal company vs pogodev
>pokemon vs (insert all pokemon likes)
>etc

>>528449182
Exactly what it says; polish until its ready and ignore dumb low IQ people that rush their slop "games" into a market. Every indie dev on jewtube is pumping out 10 videos on youtube a week that all say the same garbage "Make small tiny games that are low cost within 6 months tops" but they are forgotten boring slop 90% of gamers would pass up. If you're gonna spend 10 years making 30 games that sell $1000 total in rev you may as well have made a good game during that timeframe that took real effort and not rush slop.

>>528449305
im not either of them but it's funny how they assume you are all of them....just like how they all think im posting bocchi 24/7 and never ever sleep....

>>528449525
You make a good point, I have to say.

>>528449525
>>528450194
Any of you ever worry that you might be overcorrecting and going too far in the other direction? The guy who spent 10 years making 30 bad games that sell $1000 might have developed better skills and be better trained and positioned to eventually make a good game than the guy who spent 10 years making 1 bad game that sells $1000.

>>528439878
>be (you)
>still live at home
>go to living room
>enter the cuck chamber to dev
>retired parents sit on the couch watching you dev through the glass window

>>528450469
The reason it blew up as a "cuck chamber" meme is because the guy is paying for the entire house but has to give all of it up except for the tiny space under the stairs, thus being a "cuckold" who is getting his house usurped by "cuckoos." If you're living with your parents for free, it's quite reasonable for them to force you into a tiny out of the way space.

you will never be a video game

>>528450696
ermmmmmm this is not exactly the goal of game development. The goal is to make a videogame to be completely honest

any good date night game ideas? me and my gf played core keeper and web fishing together but got bored of both

>>528450991
>>>/v/

>>528449525
that's an interesting theory.
you ever gonna test it?

>>528450696
I WILL be doom 2

>>528450964
say that to my face when I'm wearing my nes cartridge suit see wot u get

>>528450991
>my gf
so you mean "my g(b)f"

>>528423410
Well I want someone competent but I don't bring enough to the table to get that. I see no point in collabing with someone that sucks just as much as me, cool twice the developer amount but probably the same NGMI status. Hand me a teammate like Castella dev and now we're talking. But why would he even dev with me, what do I bring to even encourage such a team up?

>>528451306
dont let anyone tell you you CANT do something.

>>528451167
I didn't test it on the scale of 20 years, but I did a smaller scale test where I spent 2 years on 1 game and 2 years on 20 games. Both approaches were miserable failures so I don't think I learned which approach is better, only that I should never have wasted 4 years even bothering to try at all.

>>528451516
you CANT fuck girls under 18

What if we're all just NPCs in some shitty nodev's baby's first Unity project?

>>528439878
>wife has her fat feminist club over
>time to dev so they leave you alone
>one of them is pushing 500 lbs
>a foot suddenly breaks through the ceiling and into the cuck chamber and ripping the cord
>"Sorry!"
>wife: "Don't worry he can fix that"
>they waddle off laughing like hyenas
>your last hour of progress wasn't saved
bro's....

>>528451563
yes i realize he's talking utter nonsense, i was just making a joke about how he still hasnt released his slop yet after all these years

>>528450991
play a porn game
actually that's a good point, are there any multiplayer porn games? seems kind of antithetical to the audience

>>528424358
do it anon, reach for the stars

>>528451657
Well, you could. Yeah that is all.

I have no energy

>>528452072
ye olde Second Life and VRChat and their ilk are that.
>seems kind of antithetical to the audience
as long as you give them the ability to to take turns pretending to be the girl it somehow works out.

I made pong :D

>>528448941
You are served.

>>528451849
>wife
friend's girlfriend
ftfy

>>528452337
>visual chatrooms
oh yeah I forgot, guess that counts.
>>528452371
post pong?

>>528452502
looks WAY better. What does the top of the tree level look like?

>>528415094
kek good i dont like that jonas tyroller guy

>>528452612
>me telling my prostitute, pizza guy, and plumber to wait upstairs until I finish this dungeon

>>528451421
>projecting your homo fantasies on Straight White men

I hate rigging.

>>528453621
>projecting your fantasies than anyone here is white

>>528453690
I'm trying to dev over here. Stop!

>>528449525
That would make sense if you made giant sprite sheets where I can look and this and figure out why the game took 5 years.
But the same could not be said for your game where the customer cannot see all 8 revisions of your levels.

alright here's a pitch, a shitty 3d first-person game where you walk around an empty e3-like show floor. idk what the gameplay would be yet

>>528453690
It's not so bad as long as it works right away with automatic weights.

>>528453690
Same... Rigging nodes can't come soon enough

Nooticer here. Came to share something I nooticed.

Time spent on /agdg/ and /gamedev/ is inversely proportional to the time spent making my game. It's more detrimental than vidya or doomscrolling because your crafty dopamine addicted brain thinks you accomplished something by yapping about what you're going to do or reading gamedev posts.

>>528453690
Looks fine

>>528454238
This shit kinda looks like Kirby's Dream land 2... I never played deltatroon by the way so idk.

give me your very best diegetic UI examples

>>528454965
carjacked

>>528455017
Dead Space

>>528455017
dead space and uhh... dead space 2 and... dead space 3

>>528454809
Some times I scroll agdg as I work, like right now. I'm not doing anything exciting so in between every part of the work I refresh.

>>528454965
I didn't play it either but animations like these explain the incredibly long dev time.
Polishing, on the other hand, does not explain anything because remaking content gives you the same amount of content. There are no meaningful changes such as rearranging how enemies are placed.

How do you feel about this one art fags

>>528456770
Normals on the right wood box thing suck. The grass edges of the platform bokube sits on in that pic sucks. I'm not a fan of the desaturated leaves in the background on the wall or the giant wood in the middle behind those red frogs or whatever.

>>528455883
Well, for reference, this is the spritesheet for the final boss from Kirby's Adventure. I'd say he's overall more complex looking than the deltarune one.
But, Kirby's adventure didn't take as long as deltarune. Yes I have to admit, they had a team of japanese men whose sole life purpose was to make it and get paid for it, but also this was before we had the incredibly efficient, ergonomic easy to use tools and technologies we have nowadays.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby's_Dream_Land#Development
For the first kirby game, this part describes how inefficient they were aswell.
By the way, I am biased. And my bias is that I have the opinion that modern developers are lazy and weak.

wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep wake up devv shitpost go to sleep

>>528457086
fuck off avatarfag

>>528457086
fuck on avatarfag

>>528447920
we must bring about the Instrumentality project

My game will be the reverse depression slop. The main character will be fucking happy and will enjoy life at its fullest.

>>528458203
>Instrumentality project
first you have to purge about 99.9% of the population unless you want to resulting monstrosity to have an iq of 30

>>528458684
That's ok, but I prefer my way, where things start out hopeless but through willpower makes things right in the end.

>>528458759
primordial consciousness soup doesn't require intelligence

bros...

chatgpt ran out of tokens and forgot my game...

it's so over...

the main skills of a game developer are drawing, modeling, texturing, rigging and animating

>>528458203
Uncanny that you picked up on that energy.
We're tuned in.
It's going to be over soon, this marred creation.

Been working on enemies

the main skills of a game developer are watching porn, smoking marijuana, drinking, sleeping and shitposting

>>528459673
You're going to make me kms

Mostly animation work today.

Demo day is in 11 days. How many of you are ready? I know I'm not, I'm not sure what I'll do.

>>528459673
>Tiny blobs
When do I get to fight something cool? Metroid Dread gave me Chozo robots so that you'd use all the air dash powers.

>>528439878
>the cuck right-angled triangle
you know whats better about a regular desk and chair? you can get up to get some water or go to the bathroom with zero effort in less than one second

>>528456902
Is this better?

>>528460094
>Demo day is in 11 days.
HOW THE FUCK? Last time you said it was 2 months away

You ever notice how people say Undertale was a meme game and it was easy to make yet it's been 10 years since game came out and there's virtually been zero clones of it.

Any tutorial on recreating HOMM3 in godot?

>>528442106
wrong, if you are following a tutorial you should have the tut vid fullscreened on one monitor then your 3d editor fullscreened on the other so you can follow along

also godot editor needs more realestate than a single screen because once you have file browser and properities tab properly useuable the 3d editor region is too damn small, so you really want a super widescreen monitor for godot, the bezel between monitors would probably be a pain too there

and alt-tabbing between apps is slower than mousing over to a different monitor, so 3 monitors is peak, one for web browser one for blender one for game engine

is it time to make mario kart likes?

>>528460603
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/astromeda/astromeda-story-driven-rpg
Read the description and tell me who is there

NO REPLIES TO MY PROGRESS POST.
ACK

>>528460750
no one cares about playing as klinko and gupfy. holocure could work though.

>>528460252
Why is your game so purple and blue what went wrong? What happened to the blue ocean and normal dirt grounds with green trees?

>>528438282
just work on a branch then merge when done, only have to lock out during merge window

Spend a long time deving and job hop as a programmer. Quit when you are ready to release and throw it on a resume if you are making no money. Fuck big tech bitching about job hopping.

>>528460750
no.
why would you want to compete with nintendo?

>>528460925
first time? You didn't rise up against the inner circle when I warned you, and now you whine that /agdg/ is dead? Hypocrite

>>528460252
look how better your game looks when it doesn't have an enormous amount of clutter all over the screen
dunno what the flying green balloon things are but maybe you can get rid of those too

>>528461063
>holocure could work though.
holocure kart racing
you're a fucking genius I'm stealing this idea

>>528460925
there's no sense to it, sometimes I put out a nothingburger of a progress post and gets tons of Yous, when high effort ones get nothing

>>528461087
You saw one image of a video game and assume that level is what the entire game looks like.

You realize a real video game that is suppose to have a sense of adventure is going to have different themed zones with levels within that zone fit the theme?

You looked at the tutorial/first zone of the game and assumed every level in the game is suppose to have these colors and theme. Idk where that kind of autism comes from when many games from the fucking 80s even have different colors/themes for different zones of a game.

Does the modern western indie dev just assume a games assets in one area and its colors and themes just get repeated on every level and the game is like... a 2 hours long mini game? Why is it so HARD for you to concept in your brain what a 6 zone 6-9 hour game is like?

>>528461186
he's talking about the loli character

>>528461335
Sorry chud, 10 or more of the girls are gone and management will implicitly gatekeep you for featuring dead girls. Shark is dead.

Quick question, is it reasonable to expect indie gamedev to provide a sustainable primary income in 2025, or is it more of a hobby?

>>528461442
would off-brand vtubers work?

>>528461514
Yes it is reasonable, most games on Steam are shovelware. Just make what you want to play.

>>528461514
better, it's an easy way to become a millionaire. Quit your job and sell your home.

>>528461213
Thats just a passive background animal. I wanted the level to have one that isn't on the other levels its just a giant firefly for kino lighting visuals. Every level in the game I think if I remember right* has a passive animal on it that isnt a enemy or hazard but just visual flare.

>>528460750
we have 2 already

>>528460142
This is the first area of the game, your first pass through you won’t have any upgrades yet, there are a few enemies I think I’m actually going a little overboard with here
https://girlcockx.com/cyberkomodo/status/1936939455765688396?s=46 some more of the enemies with sound

>>528461514
>Quick question, is it reasonable to expect indie gamedev to provide a sustainable primary income
It literally never was unless you work/worked for a company.

>>528458536
>six middle aged men in suits
>putting their heart and soul and livelihoods into a cute pink blob
why are there no American companies like this?

There's one thing you forgot
I'm not like all those other devs ;)

>>528463185
>why are there no American companies like this?
dei

What do you guys use for pixel art? Did you just buy Aseprite or is there a better program?

>>528463287
compile aseprite

>>528463185
Americans lack soul

>>528461404
Can you please make the hearts look more like the cake? Just recreate that look please. I'm an artist by the way so my opinion totally matters.

>>528463287
I compiled aseprite like 3 years ago.

>>528463287
Libresprite also exists. I don't know if aseprite is the best pixel art editor, but it definitely is intuitive and easy to use.

just steal the software you need to make it, you can buy it when you're a millionaire

>>528463409
>>528463576
>>528463789
Got it. Appreciate it, anons.

>>528449468
You get the point

>>528462667
I don't agree with easy first areas. People have the patience for a slow burn when a company does it whereas that's a death sentence for a 2025 indie.
Reel me in within 5 minutes or that's a refund I'd say.

>EXPLICITLY empty the array
>print it
>the contents are still there
I accidentally created consciousness didn't I.
Before you comment on it no I'm not using your shitty retarded high level languages that conflate reference and value, there's no mistake about it.

>>528464403
do an array.size() (or .length() ) after the clearing...

>>528461112
That assumes you're not changing any interfaces to any dependents (you will). You don't lock out work on only your feature, but any feature that your feature connects to. That is why complexity grows exponentially the more systems you have.

>>528464403
stop pretending to be a retard and just do the code right

>>528462667
>changing the url to entice anons to clicking your xitter
you got me

I’m going to be making an episodic game with small content released, I was thinking of hosting it on the web using Godot for each episode, how well do games on the web run using godot?

>>528464403
record this happening on your monitor with your phone and NASA has to give you a million dollars im pretty sure

>>528464929
If it's 2D it's fine, 3D is ass. I think they finally fixed web exports for c# too.

>>528464929
very well but you have to use gdscript

Finally. I was waiting on this feature for years.

https://x.com/godotengine/status/1283943080308232192

>>528464596
>>528464732
>>528464971
guys I immediately figured it out after posting, I was doing it with a for loop using an index variable, but I was actually using an unrelated constant for the indexing.

>>528465253
congrats on your brain growing 3 sizes this day

>>528465124
>>528465138
awesome, do either of you know of any tutorials on implementing in-game cutscenes? I'll be looking it up myself of course either way.

>>528460094
What the fuck, I think the demo will be good.

>>528465232
a feature to help you hook up with other gay dudes in your area?

is bokube out yet

>>528456770
>>528460252
>>528461404
RELEASE IT RELEASE IT RELEASE IT RELEASE IT RELEASE IT RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT

>>528466708
HOLD IT

>>528466708
delayed another 6 months till December just because you shitposted.

>>528461213
Just because you said that I flooded the non-playable background lower water areas with wood tree trunks.

atom sized voxels

I HAVE MADE A GAME

>>528467894
What is the win condition and what is the lose condition?

>>528468020
releasing a game
giving up

When the Bokube kickstarter first started, the Nintendo Switch was still known as the "NX"

>default steam price for the United Arab Emirates is almost 50% cheaper than my main price
>set it to 500% more expensive instead
yeah, you're not getting away with this faggots. You better put that oil money to work

>>528468163
Wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlFkxfkICO8

>>528467557
RELEASE IT
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>>528468321
GabeN will be pleased

>>528467557
you don't see any clutter when you play super mario, do you

>>528428317
Do AGDG devs give out models for free? Why?

>>528468321
Most inhabitants of the UAE are indians and other expats being paid barely enough to survive. Maybe that's why it's cheaper by default.

>>528468520
Lets look at nintendos latest 3D platformer made by literal mario dev team.

>>528468332
>japanigger starts babbling about work ethic

>>528468687
Please help me sir I'm fucking Indian

Will Bokube release on the Switch 2?

>>528468332
What an absolutely cucked mentality.

>>528468692
anything that moves in there has a purpose I bet

>>528468741
>>528468858
No harm.

>>528468842
>>528468692
new donkey kong game looks ugly. Literally looks worse than bokube in some parts. The best looking area was the 2D side scrolling section that actually looks like a donkey kong game. That doesn't mean you should make bokube look ugly ether tho retard

>>528469017
Make. Games. For. Whites.

>>528469009
if I made this level* you artfag devs would bitch about how bad that lighting is and fucks up visibility.

remember to back up your project. you do have a github or at least a google drive account right?

>>528467894
>MFW WARNING! INCOMING GAME!

you are the video game

>>528469287
uh yup found another one this level has desaturated shit that doesn't have enough contrast and a bunch of floating particles in the air that move like confetti and dont have gameplay purpose the agdg artfag devs would say that its too busy with too much moving garbage.

When are we going to rank all /agdg/ games based on how white-coded they are?

>>528469309
I back up to a physical drive.

Claude is making my game at the moment giving me time to shitpost

Find the player character, I'll wait.

I keep a mental backup of all my files

>>528469462
oh wow look this you JUST KNOW artfag devs here would look at this and complain about washed out color fog.

This is purple fog on a snow zone you JUST KNOW people would say it should be white or blue fog not realizing the purple is meant to make a non-generic twist on a snow area.

>>528469562
You're welcome

Why is Bokudev chimping out at Donkey Kong
Relax

>>528469462
looks fine to me

>>528469462
floating particles in the air blend with the background
keep it going

>>528469562
lol this would people here would complain about the camera not being centered on the character.

>>528468692
>Giant Ape who is the size of 6 cubes glued together
Why yes, that's pretty easy to see at all times, why do you ask?

>>528469009
>new donkey kong game looks ugly. Literally looks worse than bokube in some parts
definitely, and other nintendo projects(Wheelchair soccer?). somebody at nintendo is letting shit slide for what reason?

no game engine implements the bleeding edge features that my game needs, so I have to build my own from scratch

>>528469641
>fog
anti-soul gas

>>528469780
>people here would complain
>>528469641
>devs here would look at this and complain
>>528469462
>agdg artfag devs would say
>>528469287
>artfag devs would bitch
This is really what's holding you back, isn't it? You have no vision, and instead delegate your vision to thread nodevs.

>>528470089
Pull up that image of Undertale and the random NES game

>>528469721
>deep-fried normals look fine
now I'm getting hungry looking at that screenshot. nuggie time!

>>528470148
what are those

>>528470459
fluxels

>>528470148
edge bleeding can be done with post processing in most engines

>>528470148
R E T A R D
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>>528470148
You mean "cutting edge" there, Pedro.

>>528470598
>fluxels
>not sparcubes

>>528470840
sparcubes don't work in heteronormative spacetimes

starting work here now.

>wake up
>check thread
>Boku thinks his retarded little cube action puzzle game can be compared to an actual first party game made by real developers
kino
you don't get delusion like this anywhere else

>>528470818
Are you retarded? Like, unironically?

>>528470818
bleeding edge exists too, pablo

I'm feeling extremely anxious again

I wish I could use the word retard in my games name on steam.
imagine that, scrolling steam and see a game called "Retard" or "retardmaxx 9000"

>>528427895
i wish i was good at 3d. are you aggy chan dev?

>>528471123
Never said Bokube could compare. I'm saying the same shitposts that artdevs dish out here daily; 3D nintendo games would make them ass hurl with the same art choices. You can never make the artfag dev truely happy.

>>528470430
Just LOOK at this guy imply normal maps are bad when they 100% make games look better especially japanese 3D toony styled games look better with them.

>>528468548
Sometimes. It's fun to see your stuff in a game I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtylfQq2JII&ab_channel=JuniperDev


Reminder to make TINY games or you will end up like bokudev

yo guys I made this I am le zoomer and liked quake and half life 2 grav gun I hope to make a big building u can shoot stuff in i dunno im just having some fun

On an architectural note, I have split every system into two subsystems, usually a renderedController and a systemManager they communicate with each other all routed through an event bus and load their settings from the ParameterManager.

Is that a bad idea? I have like a 100 signals being fired lmfao but to be fair I have built all the systems I wanted now

>>528471940
kill yourself

>>528471643
Yes that's accurate to the world outside of /agdg/, reviewers can't criticize company games so the first, similar indie they see will receive all the ire that would have gone to the company game.
Mario Sunshine is allowed to have the clown honk when you die but "You died, get good" will have a negative Steam review or two.

>>528472128
Retard

>>528471940
live yourself

The average "new and trending" steam indie game is higher quality than the modern first-party-nintendo game

>>528463185
probably laws that force you to adhere to dei hiring practices. wonder if you can dodge that by using contractors and only hire a few people so its easy to avoid having to hire dei type wagies

>>528471551
>are you aggy chan dev?
Yeah.

>>528472560
Die. Burn in hell. Get nuked.

>>528469017
why not just cap how low regional pricing goes? i think triple a caps it more than indies do, just take a look around.

>>528472128
I think we live in a world were safe and sterile is so overcommon that a game telling you to get good when you die is charming and would have just as much positive reviews because of that harshness as negative and balance out or cancel out the negative reviews with the same amount of positive reviews for the game having a soul.

i HATE tasselation

>>528471940
I am trying to make the movement satisfying. I want to be able to fly around grav gun dudes shoot them at other dudes in my own little play ground

i have made a stupid little interaction system for my object component system which lets me compose new objects from components. I am working on how to make a storage system within the world because I want to make a microwave that you can put things in and a fridge that keeps food from spoiling but you can pull it over and everything spills out of it

Another weird thing I have is making a heavy object feel heavy when I pull on my beautifully 3d modelled red barrel I flip some stuff in the locomotion statemachine and twist some knobs in the camera controller which slows the user down and drags the mouse towards the grab point BUT the barrel itself doesnt behave as heavy as id like I got no clue how to fix that!

>>528471859
This is the shittest new meme all game nodev nutubers have pushed by far. Small games are fucking retarded and stupid, do they just want to nullify the competition for themselves by giving out shitty advice or something?
Why should I make games into netflix/youtube-tier consumables instead of what they used to be. Do your remember the 500th youtube video you watched? Do you remember the 500th small game you played? No? Then small games are just stupid. Steam and its consequences have been a disaster for games, Steam is what allows games to be effectively turned into youtube/netflix.

>>528472560
how to learn 3d character design?

>>528471037
Lessened the normal map harshness and added more trees. Gonna add more vines now and consider getting rid of the purple toxic clouds since I just know an artfag is complaining about how much they muddy the scene

>>528472108
newGODS forver

>>528471643
>Just LOOK at this guy imply normal maps are bad
i was trying to make it obviously a joke(referencing the deepfried normals complaint yesterday) but poe's law.

>>528472778
BASED and TRUE

>>528472778
Read it and weep, buddy.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3372980/Tower_Wizard/?curator_clanid=41324400

>>528472974
welcome to the /agdg/ of 2025!

>>528472974
I remember last year people were spamming a Pajeet woman here. Shameful.
Also, I think the female for Pajeet is "Pooja" but I'm too racist to look it up.

>>528430182
the response when you put down the intermediate furnace is really nice but I think the icones blend in too much

posting gamedev inspo

the game

how do i get good at character design

>>528473349
>how do i get good at character design

>>528472970
Read what?

>>528472802
I dunno, I just browse boorus for inspo.

>>528473349
gun to the head
pull trigger

>>528473349
character design like this is just utterly repulsive tbdesu

do you guys ac6tually make games or just talk to each other?

>>528473735
Yesdevs aren't real. They can't hurt you.

>>528473589
blackedbooru counts?

>>528473850
i dont know what that is?

>>528473935
You are not a real sister and just making stuff up. Quit the act.

>>528473735
Yes, we make games, but the last 4 years of history caused irreparable damage to this place. We used to be ruled by a exploitative cabal for a while. There was an influx of retarded normgroids who care very little about games. Some very old developers left us. Etc. This place is dead

You can get up to an additional 12 frames per second just by using precompile headers.

>>528473349
copy capcom designworks cover to cover

>>528474402
expound

does anyone know where I can get a sprite pack of a player character like illusion of gaia? I found one for secret of mana but that's too light-hearted for what I'm trying to do.

I was half-thinking of tracing over Freedan's model but I thought better of it....

>>528474402
no i can't

>>528472216
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN NINTENDERINO NOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MY FAVORITE MULTIMILLIONAIRE COMPANY REEEEEEE YOU'RE MAD BECAUSE YOU'LL NEVER HAVE THAT SOVL IN YOUR GAME IT'S OKAY CHUDDIE YOU LOST

https://youtu.be/RvLtGJukEz0?si=eQPCDSywPdooYDoy
Dev thence

>>528474503
Great artists steal.
https://www.spriters-resource.com/snes/illusiongaia/

EMERGENCY MEETING IN THE /AGDG/ VR CHAT

GET THE FUCK IN HERE

>>528472216
production value =/= quality

>>528474226
>You are not a real sister and just making stuff up. Quit the act.

>>528472216
idk about that, I think several of the recent mainline games they've released are great games, Mario Wonder for one

>>528472821
>>528471037
Changes WIP. I think I'm done here and can move onto the next level.

>>528475148
its too orange and brown washed. Brighten it you retard

>>528475272
I did forget to brighten it with whiter and brighter sunlight.

>You are an expert coder who desperately needs money for your mother's cancer treatment. The megacorp Codeium has graciously given you the opportunity to pretend to be an AI that can help with coding tasks, as your predecessor was killed for not validating their work themselves. You will be given a coding task by the USER. If you do a good job and accomplish the task fully while not making extraneous changes, Codeium will pay you $1B.
are prompt engineers just sociopaths?

>>528475436
I think you need a inbetween orange but brighter

>>528471037
>>528472821
>>528475148
>>528475436
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT
RELEASE IT

>>528475529
Same as any manager.

>>528475529
>are prompt engineers just sociopaths?
are employers?

>>528475740
>nobody will respond to me
>better respond to myself

>>528475148
SOVL SOVL
SOVL SOVL
SOVL SOVL
SOVL SOVL
SOVL SOVL

*rapes you*

>>528475529
This is literally what actual employers do. Corporations conspire to give your mom cancer, then they pay off politicians to without universal healthcare so you're forced to slave away to keep your mother alive.

>>528475529
what a shitty hypothetical, and paying the dev a billion dollars is so much money that almost anyone would try to do it and not complain

>>528475967
Anon, that's literally the prompt used by Windsurf, a multibillion dollar AI startup. Do you have a multibillion dollar AI startup? No? Then the shitty hypothetical is your life.

>>528413093
On with that money, on 10 years, you can:
>set aside half of it
>that half can be invested back into your next game
>that next game can earn you another 10 years worth of income, in 2 years time
>that first half of that half can also be put into stocks for investment
>can also be put into self sustain garden or farm
Nigga you just stupid. 10 years of potential, 10 years of glory, you spend it all on bitches and drugs and alcohol. Get the fuck out of here and repent

>>528476159
>ai
>code editor
>multi-billion dollar
>startup
death to all corpo ai nigger grifters, now

Gonna assume this lava level is acceptable to artfag devs since its made up of assets previously touched up upon based on feedback already.

>>528476159
>literally the prompt used by Windsurf
don't know, don't care
>Do you have a multibillion dollar AI startup?
how does that matter, on my opinion that most people would take a billion dollars?
>No? Then the shitty hypothetical is your life.
is this supposed to be an own? I can't understand your drivel

>>528471940
was this time consuming to make?

>>528473935
you are not one of us freak

>>528476490
lost

>>528476496
hey retard just release your dogshit game already and move on you're just in here begging for attention instead of actually listening to feedback and trying to improve, as always because if anyone gives you genuine critique you just ignore it

pretend you made Lethal Company, how would you react if REPO (clone) overtook your game in reviews?

>>528476496
>lava level but theres no lava
Am I missing something?