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Reminder: Kris is evil and deserves to die. The Soul is the true hero.
>>528493584reposting:
idk; theory:
>the man is a psychotherapist;>he brings donuts to the group art therapy sessions kris used to go to for some time>the thing behind the tree is something kris is blocking out;he can't remember the actual incident; he just remembers the tree he drew in art therapy that is a mental block;
>this is a healthy thing in some respects>it provides an offramp from an episode being triggered>but it's unhealthy if there's no way past that;Perhaps kris is keeping the SOUL from accessing that part of their mind with the tree; instead going on to a distant memory of a psychotherapist.
>>528494134Noelle is the angel, that's why she's the fourth playable character. Weird Route makes the last boss harder
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>>528494050 (OP)So who's this? Is she related to Catti's mom since they are both white cats?
>>528494134If that is the case we should do all in our power to save him.
>>528494050 (OP)I don't think I can imagine asgore happy
>>528494173why would he be tied to Kris if he shows up in Undertale too.
>>528494204Save the Soul? I agree. Save Kris? No.
>>528494190Every time I ask people just scream SHE'S JUDY FROM HOMESTUCK so don't bother unless that's the point of this post
Catti's Mom is the Marge Simpson cat at church also, this character is Business Manticore
just beat Super Plumber Cosmos. would Kris enjoy this game...
>>528494271>Business ManticoreI never explored the MTT resort much so I never even saw her in Undertale, heh
>>528494232idk why is asgore tied to chara/frisk in undertale?
why is kris blue in the dark world
You wouldn't do anything to hurt her, right anon?
So Gerson isn't real right? He's just the Knight's memories of him.
does monster blood turn to dust?
why does susie bleed?
seriously I think Toby wrote himself into a corner having monsters still turn to dust in Deltarune; makes there a lot less to speculate on;
Does anyone have the susie blinded image? where shes looking leftwards and squinting?
CUZ HOLY FUCK IS THAT A FLASHBANG for the game to give me
So why so many people have answered "Chocolate" when asked about MC's favorite food during a quiz? It's extremely obviously "Pie". You literally have Toriel as your mom. Of course it would be pie.
>>528494542just being around her would hurt her in some respects;
she's one of those ethereal types who either crash out or become the most neurotic lunatics ever
>>528494542Iโd make her watch John Carpenterโs The Thing
Good night /utg/, hope you all have comfy dreams of fave and get to make the most of tomorrow.
I love Chara
And god fucking dammit I need her to plunder evey noise she could get from me while my soul's in her hands. Squeeze it, poke it, thrust it, twist it, bop it AHHHHH! I want to taste my soul as it drips down her boobs while trying to suck her boobs.
>>528494185Why are we even trying to save this world? Kris hates us even on the normal route and plays a double game, hiding abilities and items from us. Noelle loves Kris and therefore doesnโt like us, even on the normal route.
Susie simply wouldnโt understand who we are, what we are, or what our intentions are, and would consider us a parasite that consumed Kris.
Why are we helping them? What is our motivation as the player and as the playerโs avatar (the heart)?
>>528494704If we save the world it was thanks to us, not the little shit Kris might as well do it out of spite to show I am better
>>528494704>Susie simply wouldnโt understand who we are, what we are, or what our intentions are, and would consider us a parasite that consumed Kris.Don't you mean Noelle? Susie only befriended a SOUL, never Kris.
>>528494704In-universe? Gaster contacted us for a reason, so we can assume it means something.
Chapter 0 will feature a playable Baby Kris in a flashback
Asriel played too much competitive smash bros in college and became trans theory
I headcanon that when Noelle was a little girl she was chubby and silly
>>528494558Sure makes you wonder about the relationship between them if Susie was unable to recreate Gerson
>>528494872"Mom, why didn't you tell me there were other creatures that looked like me?"
>>528494542D E F L O W E R E D
>>528494704>Why are we even trying to save this world?If there is a world and I can save it, I must save it. Simple as.
>>528494891Theres also the โam I a man?โ Line from the susie fountain flute heads. Damn toby is baiting the fans so hard you got like every ship and now every sexual minority status
>>528494558The dust contains a history of an entire Lightner. So it's more than just a Knight's memory, it also contains memories of the Gerson's body. From birth to death, and even after death.
>>528495010Get back in the cage!
>>528495151kris we could be dancing the ol jitterbug too if you just LET ME LOVE YOU
>>528495010>>528495151Part of me really hopes that Kris does actually have somewhat malicious goals so we can make pic related real
>>528494704Because it is a fun adventure. We would not be here saving the world if it was boring.
catty served up on the grill for the festival
>go through a traumatic experience with your best friend
>Watch a man die a second time
>See the remains of the dead
>Completely trash a place of worship accidentally that you may have even enjoyed being in
>Nearly get exposed as double agent to again, your best fucking friend
>Get slashed open on some glass
>See your friend bleed even
>Couldn't even find your mom who might be getting dusted even as you walk home in the pouring rain
>Get home and see that she's been living it up and getting drunk and fucked the whole time
>Your best friend is so mortified she has to bail immediately
>Don't even get to eat
>Go to bed and try to sleep while heading your mom get her guttyworks yanked out
I think, personally , I'd just start killing people
You never realize how badly you needed a shower until you feel how much better your mood is once you're done
>>528495306Catti oiled up teerking on jockington within one of the festival stands.
>>528494674I think she's probably already seen that one
>>528494704i was going to say "for kris it's a life changing week, for me it's a weekend game" but then i remembered we've been on this ride for 7 years
>>528495292You will never be James from Silent Hill Dess stop trying
>>528495151They might cage our interface but they can't cage our determination!
Please don't put the sheet over the cage again, it hasn't been washed lately.
https://youtu.be/5KdJcfmYvVU?si=jFIF-203oUew5PCH
Ramb's been getting so many good fan songs, feels good man
It was funny seeing the leaked track names and I thought there would be some bug themed schizoboss with names like "The Ol' Jitterbug" and "KING OF ROLYPOLY"
>>528495343Susie voring Noelle at the festival
How freaky would it be to cosplay Toriel without fursuiting out? I'm a fat chick with limited cosplay options but a fursuit is just too much. I know there's Catti too but that poses the same problem
>>528494704If you have the power to save everyone, you have a responsibility to do so
what if Dess had huge boobaloobas
>>528495419Jitterbug is the new schizoboss of chapter 5 who exists to taunt asgore about being cucked
>>528495151>turns yellow>turns sideways>BIG SHOT
Just gonna say that Sword Magician sounds like a stupid character, Asriel should have stuck with Green Lizard.
what darkworld will remedy MY ASS BEING TOO TIGHT
>>528495438Toriel would be easier since you can use robes with the gloves/head. That being said, please don't steal anybody's wallet after giving them a blowjob
>>528495470Only cats are allowed to have big tits in the Quirkyverse
>>528495438>without fursuitJust use VRChat.
>>528495438not very. her robe is pretty distinctive so people will know what you're going for so long as they've played UT. Beyond that you just need a horned headband and glasses, maaaaybe a white wig if you can be bothered. Also if you bring a bag of butterscotch candies and hand them out you'll be a lot of people's best friend for the day
>>528494908I still think that even if we have The Roaring Knight in the picture that people colluding with the knight can make fountains.
Kris and Dess love to pose around.
>>528495442Dess x Toriel?..
>>528495438White hair wig, fake horns and ears, a robe, that's it.
Some people add make up to the face too but eeehh I don't think it looks good, just search in google images "toriel cosplay" and look at examples
>>528495459You RIGHT NOW have the power to save one or more lives. From the chance to feed a homeless person to the possibility of starting to care for some lonely old person or a crazy one.
But you're spending that opportunity sitting on an anonymous video game forum. Does this make you irresponsible, or is trying to place the burden of other people's lives on the shoulders of strangers an unreasonable demand?
>>528495438>I'm a fat chickOh shit. Um... hi
>>528495519Idk, the same one where we can cry into faves arms. And help get them off to relieve their own stress.
>>528495574But I wanna go to cons :( And I don't wanna embarrass myself by cosplaying a character known for being a hot chick
>>528495718ANON, YOUR SPAGHETTIS!
>>528495470It's like a new stepdad trying too a little hard to be friendly with the girlfriend's kid
>What does the KRIS say?
>>528495438just get the toriel robe and make sure it's the proper size or you'll look like a purple tamale (i should know)
>>528495597Oh gosh, the candies is such a fun idea!! I'll Def have to use that
So wait Des groomed Kris?
Is that the real reason Asriel ran away? Because he got cucked?
>>528495459>>528495706Well, weโre not Superman, but i supposes that why we just do what we can then.
>>528495752no like my ass is not shitting properly i feel shit at the precipice but its not popping, it aint plugged its just not [[PROCEED]]ing
>>528495706the only food I have is less than half a pot of burnt sausage soup and I currently have negative money. Taking that pot of soup on a six hour walk to the CBD looking for a homeless person to give it to won't do anybody a lot of good.
second of all, I don't have time travel powers
>>528495834The real reason he ran away is because after she disappeared Kris started huffing his sweaters and playing guitar really well for some reason
why are you guys so horny
>>528495759Alphys is an option, or just be confident and not care what other people think. Either of those, or the forbidden 3rd option: Cosplay as Asgore with the cloak wrapped around you and never talk to anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9XRMC0ez7w
Does this contain new verses of Don't Forget in it? Is it a hint of the full version of Don't Forget? I haven't seen a lot of people talk about this
posting Kris before I go to bed
>>528495874Maybe youโre constipated? Eat some oatmeal or call the doctor.
>>528495919not even horny anymore but my fellow krisfags seem to be so i just play along........
>>528495919my penor becum beeg :)
>>528495958Isn't it just a piano version of the hymn at the start of the chapter
>>528495919I'm so starved I'm not even horny horny anymore just cuddle horny
Like the part of fasting where you stop feeling hungry
>>528495438>chick[citation needed]
>>528494542I don't consider lesbian correction to be hurting her, so the answer is no.
>>528495874Get a stool or box to put your feet on, the closer to a squat the easier it is
>>528495962>rewarding the soul for no hitting the boss
>>528495867Don't lie to yourselfโyou're not even doing 1% of what you could. You're doing nothing at all, even though you have two hands and two legs, which is already enough to work for charity.
But I'm not judging you. That's normal. This is more of a jab at those who think that if you have the strength and opportunity, you're obligated to act. Naturally, they themselves never do anything.
>>528495905You have two legs, you have two hands. Get up right now and go change diapers for the elderly. Go fix up orphanagesโthey always need volunteers. Sign up as a volunteer for the army of the country currently in a war that you believe is just.
why Noelle did this to Catti
>>528495459>If you have the power to save everyone, you have a responsibility to do soNo I do not. Let say I can prevent all suffering, solve world hunger and make the world a Utopia for all. I do not have an obligation to do so even if it is within my power. I can choose to do this, but I don't have to. The idea that you must help simply because you are able to do so is one that I disagree with at a fundamental level.
>>528496135I hate love triangle plots but if we get a Catti boss fight out of this then I'll take it.
>>528495919because DesSOUL, MolDesster, and Rapelle are funny especially when you combine them
>>528495442>>528495659There you go, best thing I could find.
>>528496169>MoldessterDo you mean Moldessa? That one Undertale enemy from Hard Mode?
>>528495924Ooh, that makes me realize how handy cloaks can be...
I'll probably try Toriel, my partner is a huge linebacker-looking mf so if someone's going as Asgore it's probably him, and I'd love to rope someone else in
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>>528496058>I'm not even hornysame, why am i not horny today? i thought my skyrim gooner mods would make me want to go like always? but for some reason i am just thinking "meh" at everything right now. it might be because i have been eating too little so my body is not in the mood to spend the excess energy. idk
>>528496135I really don't want Catti to hate Susie just because of a jilted crush thing
There's already so many romantic subplots I want more platonic ones
>>528495919Touch starvation anon, intense touch starvation with a desire to love every inch of fave. And being lewd is just an extension of that base desire. Hence why for some they commonly intermingle. Tender, loving lust alongside a passionate lust for love, a pair to let anon drown in fave by ignoring nothing about them.
>>528496286Chapter 4 gave us good platonic moments between the main three
>>528495919Mostly just horny for Tenna, I'm not broadly horny in general. Gotta have a character really crawl into my headspace for me to get horny.
>>528496168>love triangle>Noelle likes Susie>Catti likes Noelle>Kris likes Susie>Noelle and Kris has unresolved romantic feelings>Whatever is going on between Susie and Ralsei>Whatever is going on between Kris and Ralsei>Berdly likes them all and wants a harem>Roulxs Kaard is somehow involved on all this romance and wants to get inI don't think this is a triangle anymore
>>528495919I'm more just sad and lonely now that I've hit 30
it was a rhetorical question
It's interesting that both Knight and Titan are not pure darkness beings. They have some [light] power (Star attacks of the knight, and a giant SAVE point with wings on the Titan). Is this a yin-yang thing? The dark half have a light dot, and vise-versa.
>>528496442not my problem
>>528495919I very rarely get strongly attached to game characters or feel an emotional connection to them. But something clicked here, and I really like Noelle. I'm literally obsessed. Naturally, I'm physically attracted to her, but that's only part of the obsession.
>>528496106Tbf anon Iโm about to to sleep before I help my mom with work in the morning, Gn.
>>528495919Honestly I haven't masturbated to a single lewd image posted here, or to any of the greens. I find it funny like
>>528496169 said. For example, look at this picture. Objectively it is trying to elicit arousal in the viewer, but it does nothing for me. Still I am drawn to the extremes, give me the cruelest of cruel greens or the sappiest of a Ralsei comfort story and I like them both because they both push the needed to one extreme.
>>528496402>Kris like SusieAs a friend
>Noelle and Kris have unresolved feelingsThey have a sibling relationship that you twist into romance on the Weird Route only
>Whatever is going on between Susie and RalseiFriendship
>Whatever is going on between Kris and RalseiRalsei having attachment to Kris due to potentially being a darkner of something Kris owns
>Rouxls Kaard is somehow involved on all this romanceHe's only interested in Queen and Lanino/Elnina so far
Making Asgore my boyfriend, hugging Asgore, gardening with Asgore, waving to Toriel as she walks by and sees me and Asgore listening to country music together in his truck
>>528496154But, why?
>>528496106Anon I donโt think your point is gonna stand well when you post kriselle art of Susie getting chucked.
Can someone please post that asshole pippins image? The one that ends with 'he cared about you a lot btw'? I forgot to save it. Thanks!
>>528496571Rudy please stop your wife from abusing your daughter.
>>528496271>it might be because i have been eating too little so my body is not in the mood to spend the excess energy.Eat
Now
Or I'll make you
>>528496596>But, why?What do you mean?
>>528496672Why do you disagree with the notion that if you have power you should use it to help on fundamental level.
>>528496271If you are not going to eat food at least eat some multivitamins.
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>>528496661i'll eat in an hour, i promise, i can't eat right now becuase i am drinking some coffee.
has anyone noticed that the physical challenge and metaphysical challenge tracks in the OST become 1225 when put together
>>528496772Are we doing this now? Whenever we see yellow and pink or 1225 we flip out?
Alright, so who SLASHED the gang at the end of the Knight fight?
Evidence for the Knight: Obvious motivations, the sprite is literally called spr_roaringknight_slash_white_horizontal, the Knight waited to land a cheap shot once the gang proved too troublesome
Evidence for Kris: Slash comes from his position and direction, easier to catch Susie off guard than a slash from the Knight, Ralsei practically ignores the Knight after the first slash, looking up at Kris and saying "How could you" with a shocked expression, Kris is clearly in cahoots with the Knight, and gets "Knighted" (according to the sprite name) directly after the two are slashed, we never see the knight in any form of attack stance while the slashes happen
Counterarguments against Kris: How could he oneshot both Susie and Ralsei in rapid succession outta nowhere, why does Ralsei not mention it afterwards, why does he get stronger than Susie if fighting the Knight after the others get downed only to down them himself anyway, how does Kris do all this when we never even see him move
Counterarguments against counterarguments against Kris: Kris backstabs Susie, a kind of attack (shown not a minute prior against Tenna) that is extremely potent, and Ralsei is a weak little baby, Kris might be using a secret weapon/technique we are unaware of (e.g. his Knife), Kris might intentionally be closing his eyes so we don't see him do it, it may have to do with the Prophecy or Kris/Player shenanigans so Ralsei shuts up about it
What do (You) think?
>>528495314Why do people keep acting like Kris was genuinely worried about Toriel being in the Dark World when we know he's working with ulterior motives and it was just to give Susie motivation.
>>528496715On a fundamental level I believe that every individual should act according to the principles and wants they themselves have. If they personally believe that should save the world then they should, if they want to save the world then they should. If they don't believe or desire to do either of those things then they are under no moral obligation to do so.
https://youtu.be/nXtT3IsfQAo
So with the 'You promised' thing whoever is on the phone to Kris at the end of chapter 4, that person probably being the knight and the knight being Dess, Don't Forget in 100% Dess singing to Kris?
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>>528496839HOLY CRAP GUYS LOOK
THIS CONFIRMS EVERYTHING
>>528496729I'll be expecting a detailed report
>>528496905This is just reminding me I'm gonna cry ugly tears when the final credits roll
>>528496905SEX!!!
SEX WITH DEER!!
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>>528496996i am planning on eating some roasted sandviches, butter, cheese, and ham. got a sandvich grill in my apartment that is super effective, only needs like 2 minutes to grill the sandviches. :)
>>528496876I'm curious how you feel everytime a spider-man movie talks about with great power comes great responsibility. Are you at least intelligent enough to not express this opinion in the company of others?
I imagine you at a restaurant and someone shouts "Is there a doctor in the house" and as the doctor who just wanted to eat a meal gets up to save the life of whoever is dying you just start heckling them.
>>528496858I think Kris did it
>How could he oneshot both Susie and Ralsei in rapid succession outta nowhereHe has been shown to have abilities that he can utilize when he wants to, X-slash is a prime example. He used back in chapter to and could use it in future chapters if he wanted to but he doesn't. It is not unreasonable to assume that he could knock out Susie with an attack we haven't seen before. X-slash would do enough damage to down Susie, the attack he probably did could do so as well even if it was just the one strike.
>why does Ralsei not mention it afterwardsI believe this comes on down to the prophecy, we do not know the whole thing but a mural could say some thing like "The three hero's fall to the knights attack". This is just speculation but that would account for Ralsei being shocked at Kris striking susie and later him. In Ralsei's mind he saw Susie actually damaging the knight, but how can that be? The prophecy said they would fall, since Ralsei believes the prophecy must come true, then Kris had to have strike Susie and Ralsei down. He had no other choice, the prophecy demanded they fall and they fell but not at the knights blade. (This is the weakest part of the argument since it is all speculation, but I think it fits)
>why does he get stronger than Susie if fighting the Knight after the others get downed only to down them himself anywayGoing back to the X-slash argument, if Kris IS purposefully sandbagging himself then he no longer needs to do so once his friends go down. There is no one else to notice that he is stronger then he lets on.
>how does Kris do all this when we never even see him moveI do not know.
What do you think of this?
>>528496858I think it's absolutely Kris, the "How could you" is too much to ignore
Also the Knight's slashes (including the backstab insta kill on Tenna) are all red
The "how could you" thing is weird because Ralsei isn't mad or upset at Kris afterward he's totally fine with them and acts like he never said that.
Nobody responded to your schitzo third world interpretation of relationships because you're a faggotn and not worth the (you)
Is Noelle attractive by her world's standards despite having big bucked teeth? I always imagined she would be a character like this if she were human basically. I'm not so sure she isn't a partial inspiration for her design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClHMKl_W9Sg
>>528497284>you just start heckling them.Why would I do that? The doctor is acting according to his principles or desires. Either he believes he should save the life or he wants to save the life, the doctor is acting perfectly in according with my own belief system and I would feel no desire to heckle so I would not do so. We are both according to our own principles and wants, there is no conflict there.
>I'm curious how you feel everytime a spider-man movie talks about with great power comes great responsibility.Responsibility is at the core of spider-mans character, same with the doctor argument I have no issue with it.
> Are you at least intelligent enough to not express this opinion in the company of others?Rude, how about you tell me why you think those with the power to do so bear the moral responsibility to help others? You said "If you have the power to save everyone, you have a responsibility to do so". Tell me why you believe this.
>>528496536The only deltarune content I've gotten off to is fanfiction desu
>>528497532If it were Kris or the Knight it makes sense for Ralsei to respond like that, he's working for both of them but thinks hurting Susie is too far. Of course he can't blow his cover by complaining.
>>528496947when you see it, you'll shit bricks
>>528497532That's kinda just normal Ralsei behavior, but that being said
>* In the end... our struggle...>* It's only beginning, isn't it...?>* ... Isn't it, Kris...?He does sound a little bit heated here
>>528496858It's clearly the Knight. The only solid piece of evidence pointing towards Kris is Ralsei saying "how could you", but that can be explained by Ralsei seeing Kris gesture to the knight as a signal to attack.
Jacking off to an Undertale/Deltarune character always felt dirty to me
Like jacking off while thinking of a classmate or something
>>528497746HOLYYYYYYYYYY SHIIIIIIIIIIITTTTT
>>528495918>Azzy comes back to find the entire town is possessed by his girlfriend
>>528496858> What do (You) think?This is Kris standing in your way and trying to stop you from doing things right. Obviously, he's the jerk in this situation, and his actions are meant to harm you.
Itโs been known for a long time that he hides his skills and items.
>>528495919Because pixel characters hot, and other times it has to do with my hormones doing whatever the fuck they want because periods
>>528497860>Like jacking off while thinking of a classmate or somethingNoelle as 100% done this before.
>>528497381I like the theory that Kris did it, but it's hard to get over the sprite name, Toby usually lets us figure out secrets in the files - unless he's intentionally trying to mislead us really hard in this matter.
I think with Ralsei, it's more that he dared to hope that the gang could actually beat the Knight after doing so well, and seeing Susie crack the blade. Right at the ultimate moment of triumph over the Prophecy, it all comes crashing down once Kris SLASHes them, and he becomes despairpilled once more (hence his monologue right after the fight). Also, we know he's been talking to Kris intentionally out of our 'earshot', so the two have some shared secret, perhaps Ralsei's in on Kris' plan to some degree.
It gets weird when you factor in his attack power rising against the Knight - if anything, his attack would drop, right? Why bother with the pretense? Or maybe it's for our sake, and he thinks we somehow haven't noticed. But then, why does it rise? I guess we really just don't know enough about the whole situation, there's obviously a LOT of nuance here.
What do wr think of Spamton Miku?
Since the Knight is always trying to look cool, does it mean that ignoring them would prevent the Roaring from occurring?
Can't wait for the segment where the Knight surprises everyone by joining our side and we can control them by slashing through swathes of titanspawn with them
>>528498110I think it's meant to represent Kris's conflicting loyalties, on the one hand they made a promise that they intend to keep but on the other hand they still like Susie and Ralsei so they get a little mad when those two get chopped up with a million swords and they swing just a little harder than the Knight would prefer when (You) give them the excuse to do so
>>528498173Did you see how easy it was for Kris and Susie to create a dark world? And for the Knight to summon a Titan? If the knight *just* wanted the roaring to happen that shit would have occured already. They have some larger scheme involving the prophecy, it seems to be revolving around Dess as well considering the appearence of the Knight and Carol's involvement.
>>528497940So far only the Knight can SWOON. Not even a Titan can do that. Kris somehow being able to SWOON the full-health gang when he himself is at near-zero hp is unrealistic. Why the Knight does even need to exist if Kris is even more overpowered?
Also if Kris is *this* overpowered how Susie and Ralsei are even alive? You sayin' he have BOTH power AND super-control? Give me a break.
your theory is wrong
my theory is correct
deal with it, punk
>>528497382>>528497779Heh. Duality of /utg/.
I think it makes utterly no sense for Ralsei to react that way to an attack from the Knight - his expression, wording, the way he's facing - especially since he literally seems to forget the Knight is even there as he rushes to Susie, facing away from what would be the only immediate danger, showing his flank to the being that just brutally oneshot his fallen comrade.
Also, why would he be so utterly shocked? It's hardly OOC for the Knight, and it certainly seems within the Knight's potential capabilities.
>>528498245>by joining our sideno, (You) forcefully take them over, leaving Kris SOULless
>>528498110Kris' attack power rises only once: when both Susie and Ralsei are SWOONed.
>butNo buts. The gradual "rise" of the attack power happens with all gang members. It happens with Susie, it happens with Ralsei. Go look at the game's code if you don't believe me.
>>528498245There's going to be a segment where we need to save Susie and Ralsei, and we'll team up with Noelle and Dess. A human, a monster, and a prince from the dark.
>>528498529journey not destination etc etc
>>528498336>Why the Knight does even need to exist if Kris is even more overpowered?Considering who the Knight is (probably Dess) I imagine her exsistence isn't something they want, it's probably a condition Carol and Kris are trying to fix. And for that to happen it probably has something to do with the prophecy - and that probably has a section saying the gang fall to the knight, or they need Toriel/Fish women for some reason. So The Player, Susie and Rasiel defeating the knight is an unacceptable deviation, hence Kris steps in with some true power.
For *why* Kris is this powerful, it's probably set up for when The Player fights Kris later.
>>528498336>Kris somehow being able to SWOON the full-health gang when he himself is at near-zero hp is unrealisticGetting backstabbed by your closest friend with a real knife could probably do, the Dark World seems to work off of emotion-based power levels
>>528498306>swing just a little harder>multiple times more damage than Susie and Ralsei combinedI agree in theory, but there's really just too much we don't know about the situation
>>528498572Yeah, I'm not refuting that. What are you arguing?
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>>528498658Your theory was that Asgore will hug Ralsei and pretend he is Asriel. That he will see Kris and "Asriel" in the dark world and pretend everyone is back in a big happy family again. There will be a fake Toriel that he pretends is his wife.
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>>528498756Kris's only true ally
>>528494558I'd say he's real because otherwise him writing Alvin a letter is as meaningless as a shapeshifter that looks like your dad writing you a letter
The fact: the eldritch gods exist in the ocean depths. Proof: Onion, Susie.
The fact: aliens exist and have landed on this planet. Proof: A bookshelf near ch4 egg room.
>>528498728Quite possible, considering Flowey confused Frisk with The Fallen Child. The delusion runs in the family.
>>528498658wow almost thought you were going to engage with real discussion of the game there for a second rather than blog posting or reposting one of the 1000's of ralsei pictures from your collection with some unfunny caption like he's baaa or he looks like he fucks human men. that would've too much to expect from you though.
>>528498916post your tummy
Kris is secretly really strong because they and Dess used to play around in Dark Worlds and get EXP from killing Darkners as kids because it was just make believe fun for them
I have no hard evidence for this it's just a feeling that I have from all the "Become stronger" stuff and the Sword Route game with the boss that wants Kris to act like they used to involving EXP grinding
>>528499014Ralsei you idiot, Susie is suppose to cook the fire. You cook the actual food.
>>528498728Shit that might happen with Ralsei lol. Don't forget the flowers he talks to - they are going to convince him to keep going with the delusion
>>528498916How about you stop being mean you fucking bully
>>528498916How about you show your belly you fucking fatass
>>528498798while we have none...
The fuck even is Ralsei? I think it has something to do with Green Crayons, which he conspicuously mentions are missing in his house, but his Dark World room has a shelf literally full of nothing but them. Is Ralsei a drawing of a Christmas tree? Why does Kris go to such great lengths to explicitly describe the subtle differences between Ralsei and his relatives to Susie (and Ralsei himself?) I'm almost certain he's some kind of OC of Kris.
>>528499141But we do, the same ally who was watching us during the Knight fight.
>>528494134Sounds like something a villain would say
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>>528498138not ugly enough
>>528499169*Which Kris notes are missing
>>528498756mfw he looks and is built like me
>>528498916He's baaaaaad to the bone
>>528499206yes, we always have FRIEND don't we...
>>528498916It's true, but he shouldn't say it.
I've just been a lurker, but I feel compelled to say this because it was revealed to me in a dream.
I believe I know what the end of the Prophecy is. It's about the three heroes having to never meet again.
Yesterday, I decided to watch Andrew Cunningham's streams. When meeting Ralsei for the first time in Castletown, if you do not run at all, he says something like โyou know you can run, right?โ. If you reply that you know, he says
> Really? And yet you choose not to...? Right, who knows how long these leisurely days will last... There's nothing wrong with taking your time, Kris.
It's a somewhat obscure piece of dialogue, as I've never seen it myself playing first-hand. But I think it's some slight foreshadowing to the fact that โthese leisurely daysโ will not last for long. I was a proponent of the Prophecy ending with all the Dark Worlds disappearing, and I think this is taking that to its most extreme conclusion.
I do not think Deltarune is about escapism, but rather it's about โletting goโ, about moving on: it's about finality. Let's not forget that this is also a coming of age story. โThe friends you made during high school might not be there anymore, but you'll still have the memoriesโ - that's what Don't Forget is about.
Something that also catches my attention is that Friendship - the track that plays right at the end of Ch1's Dark World, when you say 'goodbye' to everyone - very prominently features the Don't Forget motif. Considering that this is when the Lancer Fan Club's friendship is solidified, I think it has a lot of relevance.
And I think that's what the ending will be. Just like in Undertale, the game will ask you not to play it again, to let it go. And the Snowgrave route will, in part, be a reversal of that: the player doesn't want to let go, and will โfreezeโ the story before all the friends they've made have to depart (let's not forget that the player is also a character in-game). Though this is a bit more far-fetched imo.
>>528498756I want to see him a drunk flustered mess, to be completely honest
Kris opened the dark world in his home to sacrifice his mom to the knight. Why the knight needs a lightner is unknown, and it's obvious that it doesn't specifically need to be toriel since undyne was fine in a pinch.
Why do you think the knight needed to abduct someone?
>>528498972It's a baa
>>528499169He's the horns, the manual, a fursona, a titan spawn, Asriel's cum spread all over hometown, a baa
>>528499169He's Kris's old fursona, his ideal of himself in his head before he accepted he wasn't a monster. Of course, they wanted to be just like their brother but wouldn't admit that.
>>528499169If it was just him looking like a goat monster I'd be fine calling him Kris's old monstersona or whatever but the fact he also gets directly compared to Toriel, the only person Susie liked and trusted before chapter 1, makes me think he's a "takes the shape most comforting to the heroes" situation
Also his ability in Tenna's game is transformation and he can turn into a horse
>>528499434Asriel likes to cum
In his Mercedes Benz
While picking up, for example...
CHICKS
>>528499169Ralsei is Dess's fantasy
I like Ralsei but the Ralsei posters here make me embarrassed to like him
>>528499356>It's a somewhat obscure piece of dialogueYour telling me, I had no idea this dialogue existed at all.
>but rather it's about โletting goโThat would fit with the themes we are seeing. Noelle can't let go of Dess, Asgore can't let go of Toriel, Susie can't let go of Ralsei. I hope it's not though and purely for selfish reasons. If the theme is about "letting go" then (you) will have to let go of Deltarune and I don't want to do that. Though we will probably have to won't we?
>>528499397Undyne was also a candidate. They are sacrifices.
>>528498960>>528499121I suggest, that from now on every poster on /utg/ should be required to post their tummy
Just to be safe
>>528499462Highly probable
>>528499464Also a good point, he has several lines of dialogue pertaining to existing as a comforting figure, notably after the Spamton fight
>>528499530What's wrong with Ralsei posters?
>>528499684they're too based for their own good
>>528499356So much for making your own choices, eh?
>>528499356You might be on to something since Noelle's powers come from the desire to preserve her father.
>>528499397>to sacrifice his mom to the knight.This is the part of the game that confuses me the most. I refuse to believe that Kris was going to sacrifice Toriel, they clearly love their mom so It just doesn't make sense to me. So what did they actually need from her? Or what were they actually trying to do? and what the fuck held the knight up for so long that it fucked up their plan?
I think letting go and moving on is a major theme of Deltarune but I also don't think it's going to be as simple and straightforward as "things end... and that's okay :)" since spending 12 years on a game like that would be deeply ironic
Especially since Undertale was already about letting go and moving on
>>528497690NTA but
>We are both according to our own principles and wants, there is no conflict there.What if there is conflict of interest? Someone robs you at gunpoint, would you still respect them for acting in accordance with their principles?
>why you think those with the power to do so bear the moral responsibility to help others?This is how morality in humane socoety works. Ideally, no one should suffer, butif suffering is inevitable, it is better for the strong to suffer than for the weak, because they are theoretically more capable of bearing it and surviving, assuming eveeyone's life starts out having equal value. It's why able-bodied men get drafted to war, because the alternative would be weaker people being forced to suffer in their absence. It's why men in modern society must repress their natural attraction to teenagers, because whatever suffering they incur because of that is preferable to children they molest being traumatized for life. And many other similar examples.
>>528499356>Ralsei dying is a good endingHow can you say that after playing all four chapters? It's seems like ch1 theory.
>>528499746Jockington compares his relationship to Catti as being akin to Kris and Susie so no
He's just her friend she uses a jumprope
>>528499820>I think letting go and moving on is a major theme of DeltaruneWhere has this been showcased? So far it seems mostly about defying fate
>>528499219Joining up with the knight to genocide the planet is literally evil. Stupid Krisfag.
>>528499397Interesting line of thought, it's something that's been bugging me - Why is Kris allied with the Knight, if el Plan involves sacrificing Toriel? Or whatever the purple light thing was, may have been something different to what's happening to Undyne. Probably not, though. Kris seems to give somewhat of a shit about his mother, if that one dialogue option before leaping into the first Church DW is anything to go by. If they actually plan to do something bad to Toriel, why would Kris be onboard with it? Why indeed...
Ralsei isn't Kris's monstersona but ERAM is
When we see it without the Shadow Mantle it'll be like Ralsei but an evil they/them and the goat fuckers will go so wild it's scary
>>528499356>It's about the three heroes having to never meet again.Well yeah. It's obvious the ending is building up to "we have to seal the Castle Town fountain and we'll never see our Dark World friends including Ralsei again".
>>528499927We will never see ERAM again
December x Ralsei
it's cannon now because I say so
>>528500007>0007did you bond burger my sister last night?
>>528499971Ye of little faith
>>528495314>best friendWho, Susie? I mean, I guess that's technically accurate, but I don't think their bond is that deep.
>But the juice and the snack platter scenes!Eh. We can't even be sure how much of that was Kris and how much was the SOUL.
>>528495975I'm less horny and more affectionate for them
>>528500064I bond burgered your sister's sister
What's a Darkburger supposed to be IRL
>>528500209bond burger my sister
>>528500209sequins and glue.
>>528500125Kris likes Susie, but it's more like parasocial relationship, because Susie does not even know that Kris exist.
So what do you think the deal with this is? 7 Prophecy Girls, 2 with HeartShapedObjects. This specific slide gets pushed apart by the Final Prophecy slide right afterwards. I think it shows up again, too. Could it have something to do with saving the Worlds? The plural is very interesting there. Also, 7 Girls, 7 Chapters. Wat mean?
>>528500148she looks like she gets burgers from bond, james bond
>>528500321Kris is ditched for the Girl in the last 2 chapters
how many ralseis does it take to change a lightbulb?
>>528500321Maybe the SOUL possesses 'The Girl' for two chapters?
>>528500448zero, because ralsei was too busy bond burgering susie last night
>>528500386Interesting, fits the Weird Route Prophecy theory, along with LOVE finding the Girl. Wonder what the "Dark Bead: Broken off, but still locked." title means for Kris in that circumstance.
>>528494050 (OP)So when do we expect to find all the codes? Considering how soon we ended up fighting a titan, maybe we'll get them all in ch.5?
>>528500321The world can only be saved once as assemble the ultimate harem
But in all seriousness it's very strange. Like I don't see why it would be distorted, so this must be a part of the prophecy.
Maybe it could do with time lines? There's fuckery with differences in save slots, but with only 3 slots it doesn't add up.
>>5285004481 to act as a stool
1 to change the bulb
remember when Alphys used electrokinesis to block those friendliness pellets and never did anything like it again
>>528500517Mid to Late chapter 5 as an opener to Chapter 6 where, like in Chapter 3, it starts off with you already in a dark world.
>>528500321Unrelated but this part where you're chasing Susie is really atmospheric and awesome. Toby really made me feel shit I hadn't since Undertale
>>528500506>Wonder what the "Dark Bead: Broken off, but still locked."Isn't that from the toy at the hospital? On the normal route it says the beads are on the track, but the weird route mentions one of the beads has broken off. So I assume it's telling you despite being off the rails a bit, the prophecy is still on track.
>>528499905nta but the anti-escapism themes are definitely part of it
>>528500517Pretty sure Kris knows the full code, considering the last few frames of CH3. If we (more like Susie, functionally) do get the other codes, it'll have to be while somehow thwarting Kris the whole time. Kris was so determined to not let us learn about the Holiday code, he took us out and fought us practically in front of Susie and Noelle multiple times. Actually insane how much he risked discovery there.
Really curious what kind of Darkners we'll see if the fountain is Townwide
I asssume we'll see a little bit of everything
what chapter is frisk showing up and what will they do
wait, so do I need to beat roaring knight AGAIN, but this time on my snowgrave route ,to get the shadow crystal for that route?
>>528500664No, that's in CH2, referring to Berdly.
(It's a toy with beads on a track.)
(One of the blue beads is broken and torn off.)
The Dark Bead title is one Kris gets while doing the Weird Route in CH4.
>>528500808frisk will bond burger my sister
>>528499356>Watching Andrew CunninghamI'd understand if it's his videos but his streams are unbearable
I already wanna replay the chapters
Is this what brainrot feels like
>>528500608Alphys fight stand-in in Deltarune with electric bullet patterns, trust the system
>>528500658havent felt that immersed since the fight with Asriel in UT, but even though it was definitely her moment you could obviously tell it was a set up for disaster.
>>528500868whenever you play a new chapter all the inbetweens of the previous chapters start falling out of your mind, why didnโt Undertale have this problem?
>>528500814Yes, but Roaring Knight is easy. Once you're good enough to beat it once you should be able to do it again pretty consistently.
Took me about half an hour to beat Knight, then I beat it twice both on the first try on my aborted snowgrave and full weird route saves.
>>528500698I feel that but it's really not a major theme for me. Maybe more in chapter 1&2? But the story has clearly got other things to deal with now, Especially compared to Undertale.
why didn't you bond burger ralsei's sister?
>>528500925>Roaring Knight is easyah fuck off, it's objectively a massive difficulty spike
>>528499169baby titan spawn adopted by Asriel and Dess that hates himself and wishes he were just a darkner
Underswap Alphys found dead in her house after having โAxe of Justiceโ stolen from her
>>528500941chapters 2 3 and 4 have all been themed after things people use to escape from the monotony of life (not sure how chapter 1 is, are board games really escapist?)
>>528501015The hardest part of the fight is not knowing when it ends imo, once you know how the fight goes you can plan your turns better and it becomes massively easier
>>528501015>Once you're good enough to beat it once you should be able to do it again pretty consistently.
>>528501015if you can beat sans you can beat that bum ass fake final boss
>>528500823yes and if the blue bead broken off is berdly, and kris is the dark bead broken off but still locked, then that still works with my assumption.
They're off the track but the prophecy is still locked in.
I still think Roaring Knight is easier than Sans just because Sans's fight is so fucking long it makes you tired
The Knight is about average length
>>528499821>What if there is conflict of interest?There is no "if" about it, conflicts happen every day! When conflicts occur, it boils down to who has the higher social, financial or physical power. For example, how many people do you hear about jumping out of bed with a burning desire to go to work? Surely some but not the majority. Conflict occurs, you don't want to go to work but because you are bound by the rules and limitations of the world you live in you will go to work anyways. You work because someone else desires something and a worker is a means to an end of getting that something.
>Someone robs you at gunpoint, would you still respect them for acting in accordance with their principles?I can understand their motivation, but naturally I am against it as it is against my own desires such as to keep my money. Respect does not have to enter the picture, understanding is all that is required. Since he already has me at gunpoint and assuming I don't see a way out of this I would hand over my money. This is an example of physical power being exercised. In this instance I lose regardless of my principles or wants.
>it is better for the strong to suffer than for the weak, because they are theoretically more capable of bearing it and surviving, assuming eveeyone's life starts out having equal value. It's why able-bodied men get drafted to warI am going to have to disagree with you there, I do not believe able bodied men are drafted to suffer in place of the weak. I think it boils down to the practical of the more abled body being better at war than the infirm. If you are a nation with vast financial and social power, would it prefer to exercise its will using the infirm or with those more able to achieve it's ends? The state is not a moral entity
I want to be perfectly clear, I am not advocating for "Everyone should be selfish all the time!". I am not, what I am saying is that there is no moral obligation to do anything simple because you can.
>>528501043How exactly is 'Church' an *unhealthy* way to escape the monotony of life?
is Merg really that good at Undertale or is he just overhyped because heโs popular
>forget to pick up Toxic Axe before Ricky Night
>stuck with base-weapon susie
aaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
I never upgraded the base weapons for anyone because I thought I could spare everyone the Toby throws three unspare-able battles at us
>>528494704We want what we've always wanted.
They (Kris, Carol, and Alvin) summoned us because for whatever reason our existence in their world seems to be fundamentally necessary for the creation of fountains, and they need the fountains and the dark worlds within them in order to resurrect their lost loved ones (Asriel, Dess, and Gerson). They may believe that The Roaring would allow darkeners, in particular those darkners patterned after lost lightner loved ones, to return to the "real world".
They learned they could summon us from Kris. We are, in Chara's words, "the demon that comes when people call its name". The manifestation of completionism, avatar of determination, whatever you want to call it our "motivation" at the end of the day boils down to a desire for victory over a sufficiently challenging task, no matter how hard it is or how long it takes. Kris and Catti attempted to "summon a demon" when they were young, and Kris would often "pretend to tear their heart out and chase Noelle". Team Roaring may even have deliberately orchestrated events in their world and environment so as to create the perfect conditions for a "game" to exist, thereby summoning our presence.
In myth, a demon is a creature of incredible power that is summoned to accomplish a task of sufficient importance to risk summoning it in the first place. Demons come with rules, and if those rules are not followed it will breach containment and kill everything. Kris is our "salt circle", the vessel we were summoned inside of. Our cage. Kris, Alvin, and Carol intend to use our power to accomplish a task (the creation of the dark worlds) that they could not accomplish themselves, and to discard/banish us the instant they no longer need us, desperately hoping that we won't figure out how to escape our cage before they're done needing our power.
Too bad we've been making frozen chicken dinner with our hoochie mama while they weren't looking
>>528501179thereโs people out there who try and pray away their problems i guess??? never said anything about โunhealthyโ
>>528500579Probably has something to do with the Chapters, don't know where else 7 comes up with as much importance. The ones with hearts are taken from the "LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL" slide, so it'll likely have something to do with whatever that means.
>>528501179NTA but they didn't use the word unhealthy, and obsessing over any source of escapism can absolutely be unhealthy.
>>528501278Literally chapter 1 prepared you for this by forcing you to fight the King
>>528501302Yeah fair about the unhealthy but i never really got that from chapter 4. The only major characters who actually go to church regularly are Toriel and Noelle and they aren't even in that shadoworld.
>>528501316I accept that but it doesn't seem to be a major theme. I'll accept it is a theme for 2&3 but even in 3 it's more Tenna trying to distract Kris and *failing* so where exactly is the major escapism bad theme here.
>>528501161Yes. Which is odd if the Weird Route is trying to stick to the Prophecy. Maybe You're trying and failing to break from the Prophecy, but making some headway?
I absolutely loved Neverending Night during the credits of Chapter 4. Really evokes the feeling of shit getting real. Now to return to hyperstasis until next year.
Deltarune if it was a GOOD GAME
>>528501302>>528501316plus thereโs the secondary theme of fiction, specifically Fantasy, which Iโd say is escapist by nature.
> this is how average fag who corrects people about Kris pronoun looks like
OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAH, NOT THE PETER GRIFFIN CHIN
>>528501392Wrong. I didn't attack King once and could still get past him. I just used DEFEND acts and he got tired and gave up. Knight requires you to get its HP down and Titan requires you to attack when the shield is down. There's a difference.
>>528501392In 2018 to be fair.
>>528501430The funny thing is that by dragging in Noelle the weird route is sticking closer to the prophecy then normal. I assume that in the weird route the prophecy plays out, including the bit where Kris shafts The Player, but then the player has Noelle to fall back on which we won't (or at least not in the same way) as the normal route.
The church is a real community of people who care about each other and make each others' lives better
The prophecy is probably made up by Gaster to set up his Delta Rune
I wonder what that means
>>528501448weโve been over this, shit ton of sprites. personally Iโd just make unique ones for the Blackshard since itโs specifically meant to be the size of a knife.
>>528501448I don't think the game needs darksouls weaponfu autism
>>528501448Honestly a bit of a gripe I have, it's a little immersion ruining desu
Though I'm sure it's probably time-consuming as shit and unessential
>>528501210just load the save and go purchase it. why didn't you buy a new axe for susie in chapter 1 or 2?
>>52850161290% of people here skipped the first 2 chapters like bitches
>>528501562>weโve been over this, shit ton of spritesI don't mind the lack of visual change but the weapons aren't in as many sprites as you might think, even the base weapons.
>>528501179Alvin gave up writing to escape from the fact that he sucks at writing.
>>528501504This grotty lanklet posted his balls to twitter, then deleted it after the backlash, he's just a faggy gooner
>KRIS
>WE NEED TO KILL EVERYONE
>>528501504>>528501668can you tards go to kiwif@rms for this shit or something, we don't care
>>528501504> Non-binary IS REAL!!!> And it's either a hairy man in feminine clothes or some crack addicted whore that larps as Jessie Pinkman
What if instead of everyone in town secretly hating Kris it's Kris who secretly hates everyone in town
>>528501448This shouldn't be too hard to mod in, maybe someone can commission it or something
Let's establish a timeline to assist in figuring this mess out.
In the beginning there was monsters, lightner and darkners, and then for reasons the lighters threw all the darkners into hell forever and laughed about it.
Time skip
Now we have monsterville USA, a baby human is found and subsequently given to the Dreemurs to raise. This baby is named Krismas Dreemurs. Coincidentally you can also arrange the letters to get Massikr Murderer.
Kris lives a relatively standard life if a bit disconnected with society due to his human nature conflicting with monsters. He spends much of his childhood following around his big bro Asriel and fucking with the neighbor girls, Dess and Noelle Holiday.
Time skip.
Some time before Kris became a teen, Dess holiday disappears under mysterious circumstances, which causes Noelle and Kris to become more distant and is generally a turning point in the towns history. It becomes a pretty big deal. Shortly after the disappearance of Dess, Kris parents divorce, and Kris becomes more withdrawn and reclusive. It's strongly implied that Kris is directly involved with Dess going poof.
Time skip
Asriel goes to college. Kris is now a fresh faced teen and has changed from being a little brat to being a withdrawn weirdo. Noelle notes that Kris has changed a lot over the years following dess disappearance but nobody else seems to notice or care.
:thinking:
Have I missed anything? The game starts around here.
>>528501668can you speak english
>>528501751>secretlyDude's a fucking mumbling gremlin because Toriel sucks as a mother, would not surprise me
>>528501526Wow, I actually didn't know that would work. To me I just felt the game was giving me every signal to go ahead and attack, so I did.
People act like Toby's out here with a whip beating you if you don't do everything perfectly, when the reality is you're supposed to use your brain
game theory: is ralsei a solvent abuser?
>>528501751>I canโt believe how much I hate everything.
> Queen recognized Noelle and wanted to make her stronger because she was always on Noelle's side
> King doesn't recognize Kris at all, unless you want to argue that the "you're the leader?" scene implied that
????
>>528501840Trying to spare even when the game tells you it's impossible has literally been done in Undertale multiple times. I'd argue that's "using your brain" more than just attacking.
>>528501279Sounds interesting, but I highly doubt Bobby F. Fox would go for it. He doesnโt have the guts to make the normal route negative and the evil route positive for us. He just wouldnโt have the nerve to pull that off.
>>528501897based on what evidence?
>>528501809This abominably grotesque excuse for a man posted a picture exposing his testicles to the discussion website Twitter, and was subequently forced to remove it due to the resulting backlash. His opinions are as flimsy and worthless as his purported sexuality/sexual identity, as they are inextricably linked to his sexual fetishes.
Toby Fox is just a less edgier and more faggy version of Jhonen Vasquez.
>>528501932Noelle had been actively using the laptop at the library
Kris hadn't touched the cards since they were a kid
>>528501806>In the beginning there was monsters, lightner and darkners, and then for reasons the lighters threw all the darkners into hell forever and laughed about it.Since when do Darkners actually exist? They're figment-people. Nobody threw them into hell because they aren't real.
>>528501936I guess I am someone that killed Toriel on my first playthrough lol, maybe I'm just a touch more bloodthirsty than the actual player
>>528501993What does that have to do with deltarune
>>528501932King's bit is that lightners are trash, so he might have just been talking Kris down here. That and Queen had more a thing with Noelle then King ever did with Kris.
>>528501993I won't believe you until you show proof
>>528502094And what did you see in said dreams?
>>528501910If Kris told Susie that he wants the Soul destroyed and the Dark worlds to be left, would Susie go against it?
Were Noelle and Kris ever taught by Gerson?
Or was it only Dess and Asriel?
>>528502045Actions in the dark verse have immediate and long lasting consequences in the light world are you yanking my cock? This is possibly the dumbest take ever it's basically that one nip mystical philosophy of everything having its own soul or anima, yeah in the light world they're just objects, but they still have anima, or ki or spirit or whatever those wacky orientals call it.
>>528501932>>528502007No, it's because King remembers Kris extremely well and he knows Kris isn't blue.
>>528502147Would Susie trust Kris over Ralsei?
>>528502001Those are two extremely different brands of people, Anon.
Ramb was talking about Kris and Dess hanging out with each other.
Toby Fox is ALL MY ENEMIES AT THE SAME TIME but also I am addicted to his video game
So what's exactly is the relationship between humans and monsters in deltarune? Was Kris just happened to be adopted in the monster populated town? Are they at cold war? Because given what we know, the humans and their souls are still busted to shit and are considerably stronger than monsters.
>>528502252WTF Toby just flew over my house
>>528502075As a reply to this post
>>528501504Talking about the well-known Deltarune commentary channel Shayy, I agreed that the opinions of this man (specifically, him talking about Kris' correct pronouns) were worthless due to my aforementioned reasoning.
>>528502159No reason to think Noelle has ever been to a dark world. We also know Gerson's son only recently desecrated his grave and dug up the hammer, meaning he is either in on something or just following instructions (probably from the Mayor).
>>528502198By a slim margin I'd say so, but I think the biggest obstacle would be telling Susie to leave the worlds where she's seen as a hero and loved.
>>528501936>Trying to spare even when the game tells you it's impossible has literally been done in Undertale multiple times. Yeah but even in UT you're forced to attack Asgore.
>>528502136ralsei stealing gorilla glue from home depot
>>528501971And why not? The "good route" will require us to let go and relinquish control, to willingly allow the world to continue on without us and for the NPCs to live in peace after they've finished using our power for their benefit.
The "evil route" will involve us punishing them for their hubris. We'll steal the reigns right out from under them and deliver their world into a nightmare far worse than anything they could have ever imagined, all because they were foolish enough to attempt to summon and contain something powerful beyond their comprehension.
Evil route will require the strength to forge ahead through increasingly difficult borderline impossible hurdles put in place to keep us contained. The good route will require the strength necessary to let go, give up control, and accept that there are things we were not meant to change even if we technically have the power to do so. That sounds pretty in line with the whole Theodore Foxington theme to me.
>>528502173Okay but that's not the point. Darkners are objects in reality and only walk and talk in Dark Worlds. It's not like Queen used to be a person and then became a laptop after she was thrown into hell.
i am determined to ACT on my undertale until i deltarune
>>528502263Whatever it is, I'm still convinced that the whole thing is one big truman show to farm human souls for monsters to use
>>528502314Doing True Pacifist lets you spare Asgore, but Asgore literally destroys the Mercy button the first time around. Toby makes things a lot more clear
How many people on /utg/ does this image apply to?
>>528502263All I got is that when Kris goes to the library and checks out a book with humans he's not familar with, he gets freaked out and puts it back. Which could speak to either trauma he associates with humans, or that potentially he's never seen a human who isn't him and it freaks him out. Either way speaks to Kris not having seen much of other humans.
Toby Fox stole my girlfriend and took her to the top floor of his skyscraper so now i have to beat up his gang of hooligans with pipes and whatnot to rescue her
>>528502309>telling Susie to leave the worldsWhy would that be part of it?
>>528502405Wasn't that Chuggaaconroy's story
>>528502263The physicality of Deltarune feels different than Undertale. Monsters don't shoot magic anymore, Susie can one arm lift Kris off the ground and slam him into a locker, undyne bench presses cars, monsters feel way hardier in Deltarune. Also they can bleed now apparently. Some can, anyway, Susie can. Despite that, they still turn to dust. It's pretty weird.
>>528502301I think you misunderstand, Gerson was a teacher in the Light World, his classroom is the Chapter 1 Dark World. I was just wondering if he taught Noelle and Kris when they were kids or if he was already dead or retired by then and further if he didn't teach Noelle and Kris if maybe he did teach Dess and Asriel.
>>528502410It was part of the question?
>>528502471thatโs the plot of most beat em ups
>>528502534It's a nonsensical question then.
>>528502537I know I was a making a joke since Chuggaaconroy claimed a girl he asked out rejected him because she was more into Toby Fox or something
>>528502483> Susie can lift Kris with one arm She's like 5'8 and he's like 5'1 and is definitely skinny, so it's not that big of a feat.
> Undyne bench presses a car She suplexed boulders in Undertale, so no much change here.
>>528501504Hey his guide helped me beat the Knight
>>528494190This NPC exists in Undertale too
>>528502346No but my thinking is that it's like Shinto animism. Monsters are functionally kami, there was a time where both lightner and darkners could coexist in reality to possibly limited capacity, but then the lightners fucked over the darkners and sent them to hell so that they could be more real. That's probably why monsters seem stronger and bleed and can't do magic now actually, they're not magical enough anymore, they became too real.
>>528502608Thank God I'm not that type of autistic, isn't he fucking 35?
>Susie and Kris can lift each other up.
Think they could do it at the same time?
>>528502686Perpetual moments don't exist in physicals.
>>528502620Also this
>>528502686I think some humans and monsters just have this ridiculous cartoony strength
>>528502669Toby or Emile?
>>528502747Not with that attitude!
>>528494704You're right, there's no point in doing anything unless it personally benefits you. Now go play some instant gratification visual novels with big booba sluts, that seems more up your speed.
>>528502620Unrelated but I'm wondering if the people here calling Kris a he just don't give a shit about Kris being canonically nonbinary or they actually just don't know. Not even trying to hate just genuinely curious
>>528502391what does the image say i can't read
Also Ralsei straight up fucking lies when he says that thing about gerson. That "two different monsters open two different fountains so the gerson you got wouldn't be the same even if he came back" and then it's just literally the same fucking guy who remembers Susie
>>528502827I'm not mentally ill and don't believe in gender ideology that was made up by a pedophile, there's no such thing as non-binary.
Also
>>528501504
>>528502746POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGHHHHH
>>528502852i do know he has a shoe fetish and looks like a split off fragment of chris chan but im not sure of his age
>>528499832Huh? I don't think it'll be a โgood endingโ. I don't think Deltarune will have a โgood endingโ or a โbad endingโ, but just one ending, as Toby said. I believe this ending will be recontextualized depending on your choices during your playthrough, but ultimately it'll be one ending. The โnormal endingโ - for the normal route - will be bittersweet. The world is saved, but a tragedy will happen. In this case, it'll be the perpetual sealing of all Dark Worlds - including the one in the closet - and the separation of our main trio. Ralsei, since he's an inanimate object, won't die, he'll just... well, keep being that inanimate object.
>>528499820It was showcased a bit in Undertale, though I don't think it was a center piece of the plot, unlike in Deltarune, where it is everywhere: Carol, Asgore, Susie... all these characters want for things to remain the same (as they are now, or as they were in the past).
>>528499937Yes, but I'm trying to expand on that. Though really, I had a weird dream about Deltarune, and I felt compelled to write something.
>>528500836I've just started my summer vacation and I have literally nothing better to do. Besides, I put them on the background while I do other stuff.
>>528502827The answer is some are transphobic, some are just contrarian, and others just don't want to go against the "culture" of the thread so they play along
People are also likely to be very rude in response to this question
>>528502817But all the good visual novels are about how life is worth living
>>528502827>Kris being canonically nonbinaryProofs?
>>528495051That's a reference to the Zhuangzi, they also say "am I a butterfly?"
>>528502886>I don't believe in gender ideology that was made up by a pedophileAre you aware which games this board is about?
How are people writing Deltarune fics when the game isn't even complete? We have no idea how the fuck anything is resolved, not even the importance of the vessel and that was teased since literally day 1 of the game
>>528502263It's intentionally being kept vague, with us learning a little bit more each chapter. That weird bird guy literally moves back one bookshelf each time. It's not Undertale's normal, obviously - magic doesn't seem to exist (outside of DF/DW shenanigans & Catti's autism, which may or may not be real), though physically impossible monsters do (Fire Elemental). SOULs exist, though we don't know if they do in the same way as Undertale - or even if human SOULs are different to monster souls. We are the only SOUL we see, and we don't even know if we are what could be considered a normal human SOUL.
>>528502827They don't give a shit, 4chan is mostly right-wingers so when they see nonbinary or a trans person or whatever a lot of them have a melties or just refuse to acknowledge the canon out of spite
Notice how trannies never correct people when they gender Kris as "she".
#noticing
>>528502959I mean idk about any other kind of fic but I'm just reading Tenna fucking
It's starts yet again...
If you refer to Kris other than he/him consider yourself the raped.
>>528502858I thought the first Dark World was actually two fountains opened on top of each other. So even though we closed the first fountain, the same Dark World was perpetuated by the other fountain, so it was the same Gerson.
>>528502858>then it's just literally the same fucking guy who remembers SusieThat was in the Third Sanctuary which was made by the same person who made the first one.
Whatโs your preferred position on the triangle, anon?
>>528502213Also why Dess instead of Noelle? Because Kris and Dess share the same poses and probably created dark worlds to grind (Kris hides his powerlevel)
>>528502941Reasons Kris is Nonbinary:
Only ever referred to with they/them, which is consistent in every language of the game
Kris isn't a stand in self-insert character like Frisk or Chara. You're not them, you're the soul. They are their own person
"Non-men are A-ok, too." -Chapter 3
Reasons Kris is Male according to ya'll:
"Uhhh they look masculine"
>>528502814>"Susie and Kris aren't actually friends, Susie has only met the Soul" mfers when every actually friendly or heartfelt interaction between Kris and Susie happens without any player input and the most the soul can actually decide in regards to them is occasionally making Kris talk to someone else for a particular scene.
Toby Fox gave me a wedgie and stuffed me in a locker
Toby Fox ate my leftovers
Toby Fox stoned me and spat in my eye
Toby Fox put hair in my soup
Toby Fox poisoned the water supply
Toby Fox left me with nothing (and a strange disease)
>>528502827Toby wrote Kris as a male, slapped an enby sticker on it, and told us to play along
Also I'm le heckin uncomfy chuddie, so idc anyway
>>528503006Look up "Male as Default", you keep posting this "gotcha" but it never works
>>528503006It's cause even lefties think the born females are just trenders or whatever, lately the mtf crowd has been reinventing radical feminism and just casting the ftm's as the villains
>>528502951> If you like thing you must fully agree with it's (not even by far the main) messaging!!!
>>528503024Please tell me they fiddle with his dials
>>528503030Well then the knight couldn't be dess then could it? It moves around in the real world.
Unless she's a corpse being puppeted by a demon. Or a soul.
>>528503068Ralsei should be black.
the man in the Toby Fox suit tricked me again
Where's that "days without nonsense" Gaster image we need it again
>>528503142The dial placement varies but yes. My fave thus far has it on the side of his head as an extra erogenous zone you can tweak
>>528503143Dess using Kris's soul and it turned her into a long freak.
>>528503068Shaman has been dead since the end of chapter 1 and prince is way too extravagant for how he lives - I feel like inbetween wizard and shaman is best
>>528503097>Reddit spacing >Niggerisms like "y'all"Opinion disregard. Kris is male end of story.
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>>528503068i prefer being in the bottom position, i demand that ralsei tops me, maybe roughly, maybe gently
>>528503097Sooo no proof then?
No character saying Kris is non-binary. Just speculation on your part.
>>528503210Spacing text is reddit now????
is Rouxls a top or a bottom
>>528503210Y'all is a southernism, not a niggerism
>>528503258You're talking to an insane person, do not engage
>>528503025Kris is female in my eyes
>>528503102>happens without any player inputThat doesn't mean its Kris. The SOUL can move Kris' body without player input, otherwise the weird route couldn't happen.
Daily reminder NORMAL anons of /utg/.
Do NOT engage with fags that insist about Kris being a tranny and they/them shit.
You CAN'T convince them, because they're here to spread their agenda and are pissy that they have no bully mob in here to shut anyone who refers to Kris by he/him or she/her.
Again, do NOT engage and remember that all of them look like pathetic gay pedophiles
>>528501504
>>528503097I really respect you here, my secret is I'm intersex and basically tranny to these people any way you slice it, but this isn't where you should be waging this battle.
I recommend lurking to collect fan art, leaving altogether, or trying to blend in like a chameleon if you're curious. Everyone's anon so if you don't have a stupid calling card or something you can generally avoid people drawing connections between your stupidest comments and your other posts
>>528503290Wants to be a top, gets smacked into the bottom
>>528503006I don't think I've seen people casually call Kris "she" outside these threads
I think I have seen people complain about calling Frisk or Chara "she"
Kris is a video game character
>>528501175>You work because someone else desires something and a worker is a means to an end of getting that something.You work first and foremost because society needs workers as a whole to function and you're meant to be doing your part, not because of some powerful person's individual whims like you seem to imply. This can happen in rare individual cases but there's no supply without demand. Since you're capable of working, you're meant to do it.
>I can understand their motivation, but naturally I am against it as it is against my own desires such as to keep my money.Then why would you want to live in a society where everyone is allowed to act in their own interest? Anarchy is the logical conclusion of everyone being allowed to do so.
>I think it boils down to the practical of the more abled body being better at war than the infirm.Practical considerations define the principles of the society. Empathy is based on a practical consideration of not starting unnecessary conflict out of nowhere. But as we approach the theoretical perfect civilization where everyone shares the same level of comfort, practical considerations become somewhat less immediately pressing and you can afford to think of moral considerations.
Kris is controlled by (You) and uses Dess's soul.
Dess is controlled by FRIEND and uses Kris's soul.
>>528501550Honestly, the whole stuff about the church and the prophecy has been bothering me for a bit.
Like, this is a widespread religion, right? Or, at least, we assume so. Then, why are all the heroes on Hometown? Why haven't there been springing up dark fountains in other places?
It's so strange, and I suppose that one could accept it as a necessary plot contrivance, but it still is something that bothers me and that I can't get out of my mind.
>>528503376No kris is real
>>528503339Just letting you know you're cool
I'm a lefty who goes here just for occasional Deltarune discussion and fanart anonymously and it takes a lot to not want to engage with the idiocy here
>>528503219gently at first but the he slowly starts losing control of himself as the desires take over
>>528502886Being a pedophile was normal even a century ago, so most things in history were probably made by pedophiles.
>>528503440You're a molested faggot and should kill yourself
>>528503072What if there's time travel and Knight is future Kris
>>528503328Kris also is shown to have control of his own body when it suits him. There are multiple times he outright stops (you) from doing something he doesn't want you to. It's like that sexy black cape says "Theres a part of you inside that wants to do it".
Kris could, at literally any time, remove us and go do what he wants to, that he keeps putting us back in says he's not completely against the actions we take and therefore can be inferred to be differing levels of kris personal desires.
>>528503025I'm going to masturbate to feminine Kris and you can't convince me it isn't canon.
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Kris is BUILT for Monster Girls
>>528503097"Kris is canonically male" is stupid cope but I think Frisk was probably intended to be ambiguous despite not truly being a self-insert either and getting gender-neutral language
If Toby wanted Kris to be ambiguous for whatever reason the game would look just as it does now
Still gonna call them "they"
I call kris whatever pronouns i feel like and whatever gets me dick the hardest.
female? i fucka da poosi
male? i fucka da ass
something else? i fucka da hole
kris is MY VESSEL i will treat them as such and dehumanize them
i might even refer to kris as an it! that's all it is, isn't it?
a little toy for me to control and amuse myself with
>>528503546Did the food help?
>>528503407I like this because it implies Kris is being possessed by their brother's girlfriend and that comes with implications
>>528503328The only actions by the Soul Susie would actually recognize is the way Kris walks, the way Kris solves puzzles or fights/acts, and possibly which characters Kris prioritizes addressing. Everything else is just Kris.
>>528503467If Ralsei tried to fuck me I'd slap him and pull his horns to the ground.
>>528503554thank you anon
just pin this to the OP at this point
>>528503501UM. NO. There were political marriages with insane age gaps, but those were always the realm of the nobility. Regular folk have always been fucking their peers. Unless you mean Twitter's version of pedophilia where turning 18 while dating your GF in the same grade is creep behavior. But grown ass men going after prepuscent girls has never been normal
>>528503528Do you think he wanted to see the doe raped?
I don't care about your personal opinions but if you try to correct someone "misgendering" Kris you sound like an annoying faggot every single time. Someone could have an interesting insightful post but you completely disregard it and focus solely on the pronoun they happen to use and get into a stupid argument about it for the upteenth fucking time it's very annoying.
>>528502894You really need to replay ch3-4 if the Darkners to you are just imaginary friends that you should "let go" (aka kill) to "grow up". Deltarune clearly goes in another direction. A direction where your wonder and imagination aren't crushed when you become an adult.
>>528503428>Why haven't there been springing up dark fountains in other places?i think whatever lets you create a dark fountain by striking the ground is unique to hometown. possibly related to the massive dark world in the shelter.
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>>528503606Kris isn't your vessel anon.. don't tell me you're forgetting the one made just for you?
Gonna be real, I don't like the black fingernails and fingerless gloves art headcanon of Kris - I feel like Kris puts very little effort into his appearance, and is not one to accessorize. He's a lonely little quiet autist.
>>528501163The Knight is not even close to Sans, this shouldn't be a comparison. She's maybe somewhat close to Undyne the Undying but still easier. For those two, every single attack is intense and brutal. The Knight has actual breather attacks most people will be able to dodge with little problem.
No-Mantle no-HoldBreath Knight is probably pretty brutal though.
>>528503440Real as hell, my man
>>528503339Cheers. Ngl the messages here are just reminding me of this image
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>>528503618yes, i feel better now but i still don't feel any (real) horny just yet. i might just be in some sort of mood swing. will have to check again tomorrow, i should be back to normal then.
>>528498110>but it's hard to get over the sprite nameTo be fair, the sprites are part of the Roaring Knight fight, so it might be purely organizational.
Kris is me and does all the things I do. I don't read the text I just look at fanart how'd you know
>>528503757kris is my vessel right now and i'll work with it
even despite it resisting and such
when i get my REAL vessel i'll have hot steamy hatesex with my ex-vessel
>>528503820Good point, could very well be the case. Fingers crossed.
>>528503528Yes, Kris' autonomy is ambiguous and even contradictory. There's stuff that doesn't make sense if Kris can assert control whenever he wants, and there's stuff that doesn't make sense if the SOUL can always force Kris. So it doesn't make sense to just assume that all the scenes where Kris and Susie pal around are all Kris.
Kris is training Susie and Ralsei to kill them and Dess in Chapter 7.
>>528503732How insightful can a poster that inserts headcanon in the middle be
Spanish and Russian fans of deltarune are so much better...
They collectively call Kris a man and nobody in their communities throws w sissy fit about it.
>>528503708NTA, I think it might be something to do with Kris' darker thoughts, intrusive urges or what have you being used and abused by the SOUL as a way to get what they want - whatever that is.
Also, LOVE all the great art of this scene, honestly my favourite in the game so far, really nails the cosmic horror aspect.
>>528503774That's fair. I could see Kris opting into it if in a better mental state or having the time/effort to do it. Simply because it makes them "look cool".
(Or if we follow headcanon depictions of Dess, doing it because it makes them look like Dess.)
>>528503816hmhm mercury must be in retrograde
>>528503708It probably is a subconscious desire from Kris that they were repressing hard. We know Kris and Noelle were close and there's plenty of reasons to think Kris might be more than a little bit miffed about her. Rape was probably never an actual, direct thought Kris had towards Noelle, but when seeing the Soul's intention and actions, deep down a part of them was thrilled with the idea (and then later was disgusted by having felt that and allowed that).
So ironically, it happened because Kris had the exact same reaction Noelle herself had: freezing from both fear and excitement when something dangerous was happening, only from the opposite side.
>>528503757i want my homunculus creation back so much like you wouldn't believe
>>528502827>canonically non-binaryAll we know that Kris tolerates everyone around him calling him "they".
1. "They" can be used with non-non-binary gender identity
2. Frisk tolerated being called "Chara" for an entire game, so that's not an indicator.
3. Go fuck yourself with your offtopic derail
>>528504036>Two broke countries too retarded to have advanced institutions, one of them has mass rapes in their military. Do cuckservatives really..? How embarrassing...
>>528504036>thinking following russia's lead on anything is the right decisionLMAO
cucked nation of retarded peasant people.
>>528503793>The Knight has actual breather attacks most people will be able to dodge with little problem.To clarify, I don't mean that all of Knight's attacks are easy, but a few of them are.
Easy:
>the stars>the slashesCan kill you but manageable:
>the teeth>the second sword corridor>angled swords>the final attackActually brutal:
>angled swords with sword circle>the first sword corridorFor Sans and Undyne, like half of their attacks would be in the actually brutal category. Not to mention that you have more resources and more control over the pace of the fight with the Knight to make it shorter, whereas with those two you were forced to just survive for at least 20 turns.
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>>528504104i don't know what that means, sorry for ESL
>>528504285those are my pronouns
>>528504310dumb astrology shit
>>528504219Why do americans call russia a gay country as if it's not america that has the most faggots in it, the country in which prison rape and soap memes came from, the one with the most fags parades, and the one that actively wants to castrates children?
Feels like a projection to me.
Our friends over in moonland fucking love Green Pippins, I am very surprised and pleased with this turn of events.
>>528502398It means that Kris is a defective Vessel. He can't bear to look at the "real" people, because that reminds him that he's not "real", just a copy assembled from mass-produced parts. ch3-4 eggs confirm that.
>>528504213>1. "They" can be used with non-non-binary gender identityIf everyone consistently calling them "they" is diegetic then they obviously have a pronoun situation, come on
>2. Frisk tolerated being called "Chara" for an entire game, so that's not an indicator.Only Flowey did this and pretty sparingly at that and Frisk was under our control the entire time, Kris has years of history with many of these characters
I LOVE TALKING ABOUT UNDERTALE AND DELTARUNE
>>528504436He's like Pizzapants, we only know him by a name that isn't his...
>>528504426shaking ruskie hands typed this post
>>528503331REMINDER TO ALL NON-FAGS.
>>528503739Except that Darkners remember their lives even before the dark fountain that gives them form sprung up. We even know that Noelle received emails from Spamton much before the events of Chapter 2. Closing the dark fountains isn't killing them - otherwise, you couldn't recruit any Darkners ingame, and yet you can. After sealing the dark fountain in Chapter 1, Lancer, King, Roulxs Kaard, etc., are still alive and remember what you did. โLetting goโ, in this case, would not mean to kill the Darkners, just to acknowledge that the whacky adventures you had in the dark worlds won't continue, but that you'll always have all those memories with you (that's the point about โDon't Forgetโ).
>>528504036This is because Spanish has no gender-neutral pronoun, unlike English (where โtheyโ has been used to refer to a person with an unknown gender for centuries), and neopronouns (like โelleโ) just sound awkward as fuck.
(t. native Spanish speaker)
>>528504310astrology mumbo jumbo and a reference to the apology form meme
>>528504436Is "Pluey" his name? Or it's just mini-game's name?
>>528504496Amazing how Toby can command fanart of anything. I'm convinced he made that Spy vs. Spy tweet just to get people to draw Tenna and Spamton as Spy vs. Spy. He's gotten too powerful.
>>528504449Yes that was a pedophile. My grandmother was a girl like that from deep in the Georgia mountains and even she knew her family was twisted.
>>528494050 (OP)>Get the fuck out of here. Fuck this place, fuck this world, fuck this life, fuck this body -- just fucking go.>These people deserve to *die*.>The apes will never change, they are all evil. End of discussion.>Do not explain or defend yourself, attack.
>>528504521But you didn't answer any of my points, why are you projecting your faggotry?
>>528504584>He's gotten too powerfulI think it's just because people are creatively bankrupt and will copy whatever meme tweet they see for their next drawing
>you can't talk about undertale and deltarune because... you just can't okay?!
>>528503606You don't deserve Kris, I will kill you and Kris will be happy with me.
>>528504637Getting good at drawing takes making a lot of drawings, so grabbing random meme shit is still working towards that goal. Honestly most artists I've seen complain when their biggest piece is some meme instead of something high effort
>itโs another โcomplain about off topic people instead of being on topicโ episode
>>528504637I mean he literally had Tenna say some stuff that's basically "I'm a dog" so he could get people to draw Tenna in dog ears and a leash and it worked
>>528504610Thought Kris, nursing their third free hot chocolate of the evening
I LOVE TENNA!! I LOVE TV!!
>my le ontopic encouragement
>is le offtopic???
mama mia!
>>528504832>mama mia!hi jackenstein
Favorite Kris? Kris Holiday looks fucking TOUGH, no wonder tho he was raised by Carol.
Will Pizzarina become an actual Darkner or will it be another "How to Draw Dragons" esque red herring
Keep in mind I believe the "Festival will become a dark world" theory and Pizzapants will probably end up in the dark world since he'll be at the Festival
>>528504723YOU CAN TAKE IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS YOU FUCK
KRIS IS MINE
>>528504879>The yellow ICE-E medallionKino
>>528504897I thought Pizzarina was Bratty catfishing Pizzapants for entertainment
>>528504879is this Deltarune: Into the Deltaverse
>>528504897There will be a Darkner that Pizzapants thinks is Pizzarina which will lead to extremely funny hijinx until he experiences heartbreak for real and you will feel ashamed for your words & deeds
Ughhh why's my fluffy boy at college...
>>528504610>God you look so lame when you try to be tough! You need some lessons in scary faces.
>>528504596That guy's a pedophile but anons right when he says that historically men fucked women when they became sexually mature and not by some culturally acceptable hard age. Granted human history has been extremely unpleasant for women overall and has only recently started getting better but if age of consent laws didn't exist most people still would be going for around the 16~ish age range, which is the legal age for most of the world anyway.
Wait what's this argument about? It's cool to wanna fuck Noelle and catti and then right is that what's happening ?
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>>528505000asriel is at college because he's avoiding being a father to ralsei
>>528504637No, it's because twitter was never meant to be an art gallery. It's a social media platform that rewards engagement, so artists prioritize normie trend hopping over niche shit they might want to draw because the former gives them more potential to earn money, or at the very least more attention. Capitalism is the death of art, example #274839049849287089408347837389498738975743
>>528504974It's Bratty convincing the Nice Cream Guy to pretend to be Pizzarina, which he agrees to because he's secretly gay for Pizzapants (for whatever reason)
>>528503708Yeah.
Kris and Noelle pretty clearly still love each other in romantic way, and it's just YOU have them advance on each other with this twisted way.
Subconsciously the basic desire overtook him, she is a lot weaker than him, she was scared and helpless, basic monkey desires were at play her.
>>528501562still less than 200 sprites for titan hand
>>528504536Iโm a fan of the style on this render
>>528503339>>528503440You're acting as if you need to step on glass. Just use they/them if it makes you happy and don't be a fag about it. I use they/them all the time. This thread's gay as hell, so being a lefty or righty has nothing to do with it.
>>528505109Your monkey desires are not what you are.
>>528504557>ะpะธc ะฒcัaะปo c ะบpoะฒaัะธ, ะธ ะฟoัะปo ecัั ะทaะฒัpaะบ. Oะฝo ะฑัะปo ะฒ ั
opoัeะผ ะฝacัpoeะฝะธะธ ceะณoะดะฝั....See how ridiculous it is? It's like we're talking about The Thing from a horror movie, and not about a high-schooler. Also in some cases pronouns don't even have neuter forms, you're supposed to use masculine forms to substitute ("eะณo", "eะผy", etc).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crgVmabTDbg
>>528505078What the fuck does that even mean? How do you kill art?
>Some people are being disingenuous faggots in art ALL art is now dead and it's cause capitalism Please be a sensitive faggot elsewhere
>>528504974Yeah, it would be a Tobyesque joke if a pizza somehow came alive and Burgerpants thinks is Pizzarina like
>>528504987 said
Anyone knows if the save state mod for Deltarune demo still works for chapters 3 and 4?
I really need a time saver for retrying some of the Knight's attacks to do a true no-hit.
>>528505032I mean yeah, today we have a hard line age but being attracted to someone who's sexually mature is the norm. Pedophilia, used according to its definition, has always been an abberation. I just have a particular pet peeve for the "pedophilia used to be normal" talk because like. No.
>>528505175Me too, he looks very dapper.
>>528505204They're not, BUT given the right circumstances they can easily overtake you.
It's like if someone attacked you and you menage to beat said attacker, and then just proceed to beat him to death because of sheer anger.
Non-native English speakers should be banned from the thread.
>>528505212I don't know Russian, but from what I remember from Latin class, the neuter gender is used exclusively for inanimate objects and beings, never for people. I assume it's the same in Russian.
(Which makes sense if you know about Proto-Indo-European, considering that the masculine and neuter genders were originally animate and inanimate, and the femenine gender was a later innovation)
>>528505293Perhaps he means normal as in common? Like, murder has historically been normal in that it happened a lot everywhere all the time even more than now.
>>528505365I feel like that's not the source of the retardation
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>>528503592kris was addressed as "he" in 2 or 3 dialogues on chapter 1 release, then it was patched out
>>528505229The "Dead ->" really makes this image
>>528505109How romantic would their affection for each other really be if you weren't forcing things in that direction is my question
We're already using ideas and impulses that Kris would never, ever act upon normally to put Berdly into some king of Snowgrave, so by the same token this arranged romance we're putting Kris and Noelle could just be more of that
>>528504757Getting big on something like Twitter is honestly just luck that something you draw becomes a meme. You could make the Mona Lisa and it could get 0 likes but you could draw Lancer fart and it'd get 190k
>>528504879Warrior of humans Kris killed MILLIONS, just look at him.
>>528504036>Spanish and Russian fans of deltarune are so much better...>They collectively call Kris a manYeah because we literally don't have gender neutrals. Objects are assigned gendered pronouns based on what object it is.
>>528504557>and neopronouns (like โelleโ) just sound awkward as fuck.I hadn't even heard of that before and I've never heard anyone say anything remotely like that.
>>528505479>some king of Snowgravelel
>>528505365most faggots here are European or American, maybe if we got rid of the english speakers this thread would have less gays
>>528505507Someone should draw Cat Mike ripping off his own face like Felix the cat
>>528505240>What the fuck does that even mean? How do you kill art?What's so hard to understand about this? You kill art by destroying any incentive to create anything but repetitive low-brow content that appeal to the lowest common denominator. Enjoy your thousand redraws of a single meme of a tiktok screencap of some thot's ass with a caption "ayo dat bitch gyat is so bussin fr" with different anime girls.
>Some people are being disingenuous faggotsThe most popular art hosting platform right now incentivizes you to be a "disingenuous faggot". Being one is desirable behavior because it makes you more successful. There is less rational reason to not be one.
>>528505510They are better because they not faggots, you're an exception however.
>>528505195I mean it kinda does when it comes to tolerance level for tranny sperging, but I ignore it. I just figure an assuring "Hey I get it" can get some people to stop better than calling them names depending on motivation
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>>528505505Reminds me of Spear from Primal
Are the Shadowmen cats or bunnies?
>>528505592>Merely say spanish people cannot possibly use neutral pronouns because spanish doesn't have neutral pronouns.>This visceral, butthurt reaction.I guess basic facts and logic are just poison to conservatives?
>tfw english third language
>>528505479>killing your friend is in the same realm of forbidden thought as asking your childhood crush outThere's a low-hanging fruit of a joke to be made here about what this says about you and yadda yadda, but you get the idea.
>>528505510> I hadn't even heard of that before and I've never heard anyone say anything remotely like that.Because it's used by a few weirdos on the internet. Though it always throws me off as I'm also a native Catalan speaker, and the femenine plural in Catalan is made with -es.
I do see a lot of โlxs estudiantxsโ in my university, though, which is always funny.
Tenna brainrot made me finish cleaning my room as much as i possibly could...feels nice, thank you Tenna for existing
>>528505649They can be cats OR bunnies, or neither. I'm sure there's more variants lurking around.
>>528505408In old Russian fairy tales it is used for some charactars (but they were still male or female lore-wise). In modern usage it's mostly used for unidentified creatures, monsters, aliens, etc.
I dunno why people are offended. Russians changed gender of Owl from Vinnie the Pooh and Bagheera from Mowgli simply because of their names' grammatical gender. Changing Kris from ambiguous to male is pretty tame in comparison.
>>528505425This is untrue
>>528505774>Vinnie the PoohBOOTI PLEASE PLAY DELAWARE
>>528505670You're absolutely right btw, keep speaking facts anon.
>>528505670Fact is that Spain is not even half as faggy and mentally ill as American.
>>528505726Nice, proud of you friend
Do you think Asriel will look manly or like a sissy?
Why is everyone so obsessed with stick bundles on this site
>>528505578Man I can't believe capitalism ruined sports. Nobody wants to play sports just to play them now it's all about becoming a multimillionaire athlete. Capitalism took the soul out of sportball.
See how stupid that sounds?
>People are trying to MAKE MONEY on the MONEY MAKING WEBSITE. Reeeeeeee capitalism reeeeeeeeplenty of art out there man. Go look on a booru or fucking deviantart or pixiv or something
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Of course all of this is irrelevant to the fact Papyrus no-diffs all fiction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm4ZWqE06ro
>>528505904Manly, but in glamorous way
>>528505904Kris is pretty obviously the masculine brother, so Asriel is def a sissy consider that Dess was also the one who wore pants in relationship.
>>528505996woah, did Asgore even try to push his genes in his son?
>>528505904He'll be skinny and lanky with a goatee (no pun intended.)
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>>528505787play the unpatched version and see for yourself then
>>528505774Yes, simply put, calling Kris the closest word to "they/them" which is "oะฝะธ/oะฝo" would be weird because it would sound like you are speaking about an object and not a person, which, to be fair is very ironic considering their whole "possessed by the player" situation.
>>528506006THIS SHIT IS ASS
I guess we know why Deltarune is in so few languages...
>>528505604It's just one of those things where anons don't want to be told what to do. I don't think I've ever had issues with using they/them for Kris before, but trying to correct anons on it is an uphill battle and just kind of the wrong place for it. I mean, whatever, right?
I think I do get you, anon.
>>528505774>It was changed and objectively wrong but just accept it OK
>>528506006THIS SHIT FUCKS
this made Toby shart and piss his pants
>>528506128Same, I don't bother. Trying to change someone's mind here is impossible, you can't really do it. I just use they/them for Kris/Chara/Frisk in my posts and if someone gets mad whatever.
>>528500209It's burnt crumbs in the light world, as shown in the church cutscene where you choose to rummage through Kris's ball of junk.
>>528505714> โlxs estudiantxsโHave you ever actually heard anyone try to say it out loud? I'm honestly still kind of bewildered someone tried to make a neutral spelling, only to shove an "x" in there and make it absolutely fucking unpronounceable. I thought that was just a "latinx" thing pushed mainly by northamericans who had no idea how awkward that is for actual spanish speakers and didn't consider just, you know, letting those latinxs actually choose their own words.
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>>528506057monsters just breed differently, pass their genes differently, just built different overall, breeding with monsters is what all human men strive for.
>>528506173How would you adapt "they/them" to russian language? Please enlighten me.
>>528506091Plural is used only for paired objects (scissors, pants, etc).
>>528505212Funny story: first time playing Undertale as a Russian 10 years ago, when I got to Napstablook and the flavor text like "They want you to keep quiet" kept popping up I first assumed it was meant to convey Napstablook was insane and was hearing voices ("they") inside their head
Anyway, this is a challenge for a translator, I'm not sure how I would approach this. I think it would be fun to just switch the gender every other sentence, that would roughly convey the idea. And when the other characters are talking about them, make them assume their own gender. Susie would say oะฝa and Ralsei would say oะฝ
>>528505774>Bagheera from MowgliSultry pantheress caretaker woman sexo...
Any Dess theories you guys like?
how did undyne not suplex the knight
>>528505649>>528505743Was this a Simpsons reference?
>>528506360because she touches herself at knight
>>528506397Yeah, I didn't see many people catch the Simpsons Arcade reference with the Shadowguys
>>528504286this is subjective thoughever
I find the teeth way more brutal than any other attack by far, it does 90% of the damage in my battles
>>528506247I don't give a shit about the Russian language, if you're changing the text that much then the translation is objectively incorrect
>>528506370were that axe*
hypothetical, subjunctive mood
>>528506064I did at the time
>>528506352Everything that's happening is to protect Noelle.
>>528504449>Sneedvillelol
Susie and Noelle (girlfriends). Cute little kiss on the lips, lovingly done.
Susie and Kris (bros for life). Deep tongue wrestling make out (its a bro thing)
>>528506209Imo, the harder people push the harder it'll be for anons to change their minds on it. I think a fair amount of anons are willing to entertain the idea of someone choosing to neither identify as a man or woman, in the sense that it's probably one of the most vanilla options of the rainbow-flavoured choices, but getting pestered by redditors will just make them continue out of spite.
Hell, a fair number of anons are willing to entertain they/them on the premise that Kris could be either rather than something specifically enby, and I think that's a fair take, too.
>"Noelle"
>name has not one, but two of them
Thinking of replaying Undertale and getting a good save just in case future Deltarune chapters check for an Undertale save
Nevermind I'll probably switch PCs in the 10 years it takes for Toby to bring out new chapters
>>528506247See
>>528506313>>528504036Many Russians are just unimaginative plumbers, but Russian actually gives you more of a reason to see Kristina as a girl than most languages
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY
>Noelle
VERSUS
>NO L
BEGIN!
>>528506313Nine-Tailed Okitsune Tale uses this approach. Some characters use "he" for MC, some "she". MC can use both male and female sides of the hot spring. But that's just a quirk of MC' species.
>>528506660chapter 5 2026
chapter 6 2027
chapter 7 2028
>>528506638>pestered by redditorsSee I don't even use Reddit. Every time I try people think I AM nonbinary or trans or from Reddit, they just imagine me as one of their enemies. That's another reason it's just a waste of time.
>528506646
He knows too much. Take him out, quick and quiet.
Kristine Dreemurr
Susanne Snow
Noelle Nicole Holiday
Bluebird Eddison
Ralsei Murderer
>>528506487Don't you think that you have a bit too much of a non-binary stick up your ass? Kris's gender is literally the last thing the story is ever concerned about, so as a result calling him a dude in Russian has no effect on much of anything at all.
>>528506695My female friend (Russian) draws Kris as this 6'0 hunky man, also she draws a lot of Kriselle and it's so cute.
I love being a chud and telling other tranny deltarune fans to kill themselves online
>>528506247I checked a fan translation and it seemed to just rewrite sentences to avoid pronouns
My name is Toby.
I made the Krissy.
It was difficult to put the genders together.
>>528506898That's one way, yes. But you can only dodge pronouns for so long before you hit some inevitable wall.
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY
>BLACK RALSEI
VERSUS
>WHIIIITEE RALSEIII
BEGIN!
>white ralsei: hey ni-*banned*
>black ralsei: oh hey i won!
>>528506878This, Kris is a man.
>>528506859She sounds nice, I'll spare her during ww3
>>528504219Spain had advanced institutions before your country even existed, redditor ameribro.
>>528504286>For Sans and Undyne, like half of their attacks would be in the actually brutal category.For me I haven't found this to be true. There are some attacks like the diagonal teeth attack I can pretty much only dodge by luck and others that even if I do know how to dodge I can still get hit by. I can easily no hit all of sans attacks, none of them are particularly hard to dodge it's just about endurance and having seen the attack before.
>>528506352The Knight being some weird cut off part or projection of her rather than Dess in her entirety.
>>528506853>Being sloppy is good
you rike game?
>raughs
have more pronoun
prease buy more rarusei prush
Do you think Ralsei having "Player 1" controller is a foreshadowing for the future chapters?
Are slim TVs women and boxy TV men
>>528505894thanks, took a lot of effort for me but it was worth
>>528507013Uuuh, you're just going to get raped and killed if you end up in Russia during WW3, not a good idea really.
>>528506638I accept Kris as a they/them because they're like Schrodinger's cat, but instead it's Schrodinger's meat log. I'll never be able to understand the idea that "male" or "female" is a quantifiable identity so there must exist a state between either that people can exist as. Men are men, women are women, and then people add all these weird little lables based on ... What they wear? Do? Who they fuck? Generally what they "feel" is correct? It's like DND morality charts it's so shallow in definition and even then it's still too constraining in how people actually act. "I'm afab" so you're a women? "No I identify as non-binary. I don't *feel* like a women" what even is a women suppose to feel like?
Dumb.
>>528506754Ehh, it's just culture war stuff, whatever. On the other side of the fence: I'm hesitant to post art outside of 4chan implying that a (fem)Kris being paired with a girl would make them a lesbian, since I don't know if that'd cause an issue since people see them as nonbinary.
>>528506989It will make sentences ugly but I don't see why there'd be a wall
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY
>KRIS KNIGHT THEORY
VERSUS
>KRIS GENDER THEORY
BEGIN!
>>528507106I'm not a Russian. I wouldn't need to get a mandatory dicking from a superior officer.
>>528507054It isn't sloppy if there's literally no other way about it.
I mean, if you would rather Kris be treated as an object/some unidentified creature in russian, I'm all for it. Let's dehumanize our vessel.
>>528506754My fave thing is the way I get accused of being from any other website when on any other website. On Reddit I'm apparently from Tumblr or 4chan depending on topic, on Tumblr I'm from Reddit, on 4chan I'm from Twitter. I'm wondering where else I can rack these up lmao
>>528507126I mean in my ideal world people just draw Kris as a boy as a girl, Susie as an elephant, Ralsei as a hot air balloon. I don't give a fuck. I just say they/them because that's what the game says. It's really that simple.
>>528506859Your friend just self-inserts as Noelle like a boring basic bitch. Most girls would not want to self-insert as Kris because being socially ostracized is a nightmare for women, and those that do get ostracized are usually not as standoffish as Kris.
Kris being able to deviate from the boring norms and expectations that suffocate us daily is part of what makes them so cute and mysterious
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>>528507220>I just say they/them because that's what the game says. It's really that simple.Gigabased
>>528507024Like a... psychic manifestation of will?
ALRIGHT EVERYONE
TIME TO ROTATE
OUR NEXT DISCUSSION FOR THE NEXT TWENTY FOUR HOURS IS WHY TOBY FOX IS A FUCKING HACK
AND WHY CASTLE TOWN SUCKS DICK NOW AND THE FACT HE FORGOT TO LET YOU GET MORE SPINCAKES
>>528505229yes thanks a ton anon! no clue why i didnt get a (you) for this
>>528507263Honestly she would hate Indians just from the strong stench of spices. All the spice and cinnamon? No thanks.
>>528507263Susie I think they prefer to be called Native American
Or did they? I think they do
I forgor
>>528507260Kris just works much better as a man, and I think his relationship with Noelle just proves that considering how hard it radiates this very traditional hyper masculine and hyper feminine dynamic.
>>528507364Castle town can't be good without Tenna!
Let's play a game. Go to this page:
https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Random
The result is Kris' gender now. What do you think?
>>528506836>"Noelle Nicole Holiday">Christmas Saint Nicholas holidaysheh
>>528507364Reminder 3/4/5 were meant to come out together. I'm still going with the theory Castle Town in Chapter 5 is going to be massive, with a lot of stuff to do to tide us over for Chapter 6 since that one will probably take a bit. We still have two ???? slots for enemies so I'm assuming there's still some Minigame that utilizes recruits. I wouldn't hold your breath for new Malius recipes or another Spincake (Lack of Spincake might be Toby's way of making the game harder) but the Egg Man hints at some kind of wheat thing and Malius has some thing with bread, so maybe we'll get more recipes from someone else? We'll see. But I think Chapter 5 Castle Town will be MUCH better than what we currently have.
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY
>SUSIE DELTARUNE
VERSUS
>GERSON I'M OLD A RUNE
BEGIN!
>susie: you are old man
>susie: you are already defeated
>gerson: mating press
>susie: a what press?
>>528507470>hobbyflux>Hobbyflux is a mutogender identity in which one's gender is influenced by hobbies/interests and it fluctuates and changes depending on what the current hobby/interest isGod I'm a fag but I hate this mogai type shit so much
>>528507114Yeah, that's kind of how I see it, too. The well's a little poisoned, but ignoring that tumblr bullshit I don't think it's that unreasonable to acknowledge an in-between state between a man and a woman on some level.
>>528507220>I just say they/them because that's what the game says. It's really that simple.Speaking as someone who's bisexual, I sometimes get the feeling that some enbies are just cis-genders that want to feel special, so I have a natural pessimism to they/them pronouns, but I like Kris, and I'd hate to make them hate me if I used the wrong pronouns. Even if I thought it was faggy. I wouldn't want to be rude.
>>528507470Alright I guess Kris is now...
"Trans Representation in Media"
>>528507260I self-insert as Kris and want to rape Noelle.
>>528507443Noelle is just extremely feminine, so everyone looks masculine next to her.
But really, this is just (You) self-inserting onto Kris and projecting your own feelings onto them. Of course you would say things you can't relate to don't work for you.
>>528507443I fucking LOVE fan art with clearly masculine Kris, post more if it NOW!
>>528507568I'm also bisexual and if someone wants to be referred to as they/them I just do it. It's just the nice thing to do. That's all I really believe in, just being nice to people and doing what makes them comfortable. I hate the political debate shit when it just feels that simple to me.
>>528507680He's not even clearly masc here lmao
>>528507220fat elephant Susie and inflated hot air balloon Ralsei...
>>528507609Nta, but tue.Even Berdly looks masculine next to Noelle.
>>528507582Based if biologically female
>>528507575>Kris now identifies as the societal concept of trans representation
The Tenna fight is really funny for two reasons.
1) Bro is trying so hard to be intimidating.
2) It's just Warioware, but a boss fight.
The final boss of Deltarune
>>528507470>Bigenderbalanced is a multigender and bigender identity in which one has two genders and feels that they are perfectly balanced.>coin flip between doctor and nurse outfits in the virovirokun battlesure
>>528507769>final bossyou mispelled final party member
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>>528507208Society is treated as an unidentified creature. Oะฑัecัะฒo isn't a dehumanizing word
>>528507692Yeah, as long as I'm not being pushed into doing neopronoun shit I don't really care. Being intersex and kinda being forced in-between in my life makes my relationship to self ascribed Nonbinary people... Complicated. But idk it's none of my business
>>528495387ramb would've been a thousand times better as a secret boss, Tobias is a hack
>>528507470>Rosboy is a gender identity in which one is a boy and has some significant connection to femininity, either in their gender or expression; a feminine-aligned boy; an umbrella term for all identities that involve being both a boy and feminine.I guess that kinda checks out, sounds more like Ralsei though.
>>528507470>Rosboy is a gender identity in which one is a boy and has some significant connection to femininity>Rosgirl is a gender identity in which one's gender is female and feminine in the way boys areOk this site is total parody.
>>528507823lmao
>>528507750That's why I like it, and the theme slaps, I have been listening to it on repeat for hours now.
>>528507750He really thinks he's end boss material with this battle stance and sneer
It's endearing
>>528507470https://gender.fandom.com/wiki/Y/Ngender
>Y/Ngender is a gender identity in which ones gender is related to the abbreviation 'Y/N.' This is actually sort of canon, but I guess that applies to the vessel we named more.
>>528507263Monsters are the indians of the deltarune world
>>528495387I still think Ramb lost his fight because Tobert didn't want to evoke Muffet with the Purple Soul stuff. Every colored soul battle has invoked their original users in some way (Spamton NEO with Mettaton NEO, Gerson and Undyne)
That being said this song remixing SWORD and BURNING EYES is incredibly cool and I wish we got it.
>>528507470maybe those woke folk aint so bad...
>>528507568I think it's entirely unreasonable on the premise that gender itself is an unreasonable concept. You are you. You have a penis or a vagina or some biological error that fucks that up but you are still you. You can wear a dress or wrangler jeans or a neon green sling bikini. Saying that you are a certain gender flavour because you do certain things is selfish, because you're dragging everyone else who does those things into your gender sphere philosophy and that just makes more of a mess of things. "Boy/girl coded" as a concept makes me unreasonably angry.
It feels like people are trying to justify their behavior in some desperate bid to not look weird because it's normal for "xgender to behave like this" just do what you ficking wanna do and stop worrying about it man
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>>528507964He kind-of HAS to take you seriously, because most of his power came from his staff and Kris goes and shreds their contracts and recruits them. He's a desperate TV that give it his all when he's cornered. Mr. Tenna has my respect as an ANTagonist.
>>528507884To be fair the neopronoun shit is so niche and a lot of people use it as a scapegoat to say "see look the nonbinaries and trannies are CRAZY" when a lot of them don't really care about/acknowledge the weird obscure neopronoun stuff like xir or whatever
>>528507720> Twice as tall as Noelle > Massive shoulders> Massive hands???
>>528508039Ramb isn't dead yet, he's just mysteriously gone
Believe in the purple SOUL Ramb fight in Sword Route Part 2
>>528507964I remember wishing the fight could've gone on longer, the big minigame bonanza at the end just made me want a few more rounds of that!
>>528507443>>528507680>>528507720Kris kinda looks like a Family Guy character here
>>528508162The face looks soft as hell, doesn't scream manly to me
>>528508254Reminder Toby liked a Family Guy Deltarune parody someone made on Twitter
>>528508281That's just art style
Ramb being a schizoboss with a mini-game makes him more memorable and cool imo.
>>528508291>Aww boy, this is worse than that time I created a Dark World in the bathroom.
>>528495387Perfect fangame bait honestly
>>528508149It is niche, but my brand of autism has put me sharing space with the kind of people unironically into this stuff and I just. Like. I'm not trying to be a hardass but when someone tells me they're a bisexual lesbian I feel like I'm losing my mind
Are there two gasters - the one that is his deltarune equivalent, and then then the undertale one in deltarune that got shattered into it? Surely not all gasters fell into the core
>>528508450When you put muscle on androgynous characters that makes it gay.
>>528508472Yeah it's confusing but whatever. I got bigger shit to worry about in my life so I could care less about what they got going on
>>528508490Only one Gaster fell. But all Gasters suffered for it.
>>528507470Well that doesn't help at all.
>>528508472Does your name start with one of the letters in JAR?
>>528508508Not if there's a girl in the same picture
>>528499169Ralsei is Kris's suicide knife that was confiscated by Toriel.
can you guys talk about literally anything else
I just spent 20 mins trying to work out why my speakers kept making a low thumping noise. checked through every tab, discord, tried muting and unmuting them until I realized that I had left Deltarune running in the background in the Church after Chapter 4. I thought it was silent in there but I guess not.
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>>528507470>PeagenderKris would be based.
Okay I have a serious question.
Everybody knows you can fight Tenna in chapter 3, walk back, save, and then fight the Knight, right?
>>528508560>unknown, unnamed, undecided, unsure, undefined, unidentified, unquantifiable, unexplainable or undeterminedCould you elaborate? I don't think I've got it yet.
>>528508490Possibly, it could explain why there's a mysterious Eggs Man who seems Gaster-adjacent
If Gaster Undertale's invention shattered him across time and space then it could've had a rippling effect and blown up all the other Gasters across the space-time continuum, or it could be that different pieces of Gaster Undertale have become separate people with their own agendas
>>528508589Sorry I'm too dumb to know what joke you're making
>>528507470>Catdivine is a xenogender identity in the genderdivine system in which oneโs gender is/is affected by one being divine and a cat, is related to cats and divinity, or is/is affected by being a divine being of cats.Bullshit, everyone knows Kris is a dog
>>528495387>Video game themed schizoboss where he controls what purple path you're on using a controllerGod there was so much potential here...
>>528508472Bisexual lesbian isn't hard to understand if you believe in the split attraction model.
>>528508478This is really good anon! What are you doing wasting your talents here for?
>>528508715I definitely couldn't.
I caved in and made my own Tenna card for ST and it made me remember that talking to chatbots is like smoking crack or something. He might not be perfect and still needs some fine-tuning but man oh man is he fun to talk to... I stayed up all night typing away.
Any funny images of Noelle getting cuck?
>>528508560>Kris is referred to with they/them but their gender is ultimately unknownDid the gender fandom wiki just crack the case?
>>528508715I did that the first playthrough because I didn't trust Toby and I knew he'd pull some "second form" shit after Tenna. I just didn't expect it to be the literal actual Knight
>>528508831yes you could, you probably just didn't realize and just moved to the right and activated the cutscene
>>528508684Is Ralsei's asshole loose?
Captcha: WHR4S
>>528508781It was just "jarring" to see a post so very close to someone I recognized from X, the Everything App.
>>528508715At first I thought they were back to back, got really spooked and then beat Tenna without using any healing items
>>528508810I think that's frankly just overcomplicating things, but that's not even what people mean when I've seen this. It's "I'm attracted to men only sometimes." Like just say bi, or pan if you wanna feel special idk.
>>528508958Now this is a fun twist on the formula
>>528508980I don't talk these kinds of opinions much on Twitter ahah, but it's kinda funny I reminded you of someone
>>528508962If that's the case, then the distance to activate said cutscene must have been so minimal as to be easy to trigger on accident, because I remember being like "Oh shit I forgot to equip my cool new shadomantle" and desperately trying to back out of every cutscene.
>>528508984>ostracize bisexuals and make them feel like fake gays and that they (both men and women) can only be obsessed with cock>no one wants to admit they're bisexual anymoreGee who could have seen that coming.
>>528508979He's a shapeshifter. It can be as loose as you want.
>>528508715The first thing I did after beating Tenna was walk back to the save point.
>>528509156Same, nothing really got in my way. I mean I didn't go right at all because I figured that would trigger
>>528509129Peeing through diaper?
Toby should buy the fanon baby Kris design.
>>528509129Why the fuck is Susie way older than Kris
>>528508715After Tenna said "go THIS way" and pointed left, I immediately went to right, thinking going left is a progress. I had to beat Tenna twice because of that.
>>528509232Susie actually got held back numerous times through school.
>>528509215That's the candle flame not piss
>>528509134Oh don't get me started on the war zone of being bi lmao, I feel you
>>528509278So she's actually almost as old as Asriel and Dess? Kris and Noelle likes them older?
>>528508826this is my home
also thanks
>>528509330I don't know I just made that shit up completely.
Artist probably just fucked it up and made Susie older.
>>528509278I mean it's believable given her literacy but I don't think this is stated.
>>528507692Psychologically, pronouns are mostly just a low-effort way for teenagers to express themselves and feel special, that's why there are so many nonsensical genders on that wiki. That's why they're mainly popular with a teenage-YA age demographic. For some it may be coping with trauma like it probably is with Kris, for many it's just a fad to latch onto until they grow out of it. I won't be disrespectful to people like this on purpose, but I don't think there's anything to their choice beyond what I said.
Pronouns by themselves are relatively harmless compared to life-altering trans stuff anyway. In the future, technology either will advance to the point where biologically transitioning will become actually feasible, or there will be a huge pushback on the movement from a generation of traumatized people, and the behavior of not letting others help you by painting them as offensive will be studied.
said Berdly
How would you react if the IMPOSSIBLE happened and, SOMEHOW Toriel forgave Asgore and they went back together and Sans lost everything?
>>528496058>>528496271I didn't jerk off for few days and I feel like this and I love it. When I look up porn, I just stare it blankly before closing the tab.
>>528509435On one hand, lol, fuck Sans. On the other, redeemed Asgore? Eww...
What's your biggest hopes for Chapter 5 anons?
>>528509435I die happy on the spot
>>528508000Other way around
Toby will not show Kris's adoption
Toby will not elaborate on humanity lore
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>>528509579VESSEL RETURN PLEASE GOD PLEASE TOBY I WANT MY SON BACK
Imagine how Gaster would feel next time you want to post about off-topic gendershit garbage that belongs in >>>/lgbt/
No one gives a shit, no one should give a shit
I'm here to talk about games
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>>528509579And yes, I am aware that this is the most vanilla response possible.
>>528509579It releasing... I'm more-or-less confident I'll enjoy whatever happens in it. Otherwise, I'd enjoy to have more lightners on the team.
>>528505939>People are trying to MAKE MONEY on the MONEY MAKING WEBSITEIt's always so funny how you try to defend bad capitalist practices as "it's normal, that's just how things are" without stopping to think if it's a good thing that that's how things are, and whether things should be that way. Do you enjoy twitter and the culture it perpetuates alongside artists?
>>528509748>MANCOUNTRYKris's adoption and the role of humanity will be major parts of their character
>>528509564What do you prefer, the Sans stepdad ending or the Asgore is back ending?
>>528509546Why are Ralsei friends not cooming?
I need to check this here because nobody has updated any fucking wiki anywhere.
Am I right you can basically farm infinite revive mints from Susie's stealing ACT in chapter 4?
>>528494558He's a darkner made from his funeral object by his son Alvin, who opened the fountains in the church off-screen
>>528509907That is correct
>>528508478That looks lovely
>>528509753Gaster probably would find it mildly amusing like he does most things
Being a bored scientist stuck in some sort of limbo probably made him not have many strong opinions on things
>>528509876I guess Asgore, but only because of my racial hatred for skeletons.
>>528509820I would personally beat Toby to death with a can opener if this happened
Kris wanted to be a cool deer like her big sister Dess not a dirty goat.
The horn headband were deer horn.
>>528509907Yes, see the new wiki: https://deltarune.wiki/w/Revive_Mint
>>528509579The Very interesting thing is real and a bunch of random Hometown residents fall into a Dark World
Susie and Catti conflict and it's actually good with Catti having a valid reason to be angry at Susie which they hash out and not just Susie owning her epic style again
Cool and crazy shit happening
>>528509943This is part of why I think multiple people are opening fountains, I feel like it would have to be Alvin's dark world
>>528496862Because the knight is clearly completely off their rocker and Kris can't trust them to keep Toriel safe.
>>528510052>dirty goatdoes the gallons of pet shampoo in the bathroom just not mean anything to you?
>>528510060Thanks, couldn't find this for the life of me.
>>528510182Nta, but good point. Toriel is spared only when Undyne shows up, at the fucking end. Seriously, I was getting worried when I was approaching what I felt to be the final boss night and Undyne was NOWHERE. Did Kris really just know she was going to show up at the right time even when she just wasn't in the Dark World?
>>528506219Apparently, it's pronounced the same as โles estudiantesโ.
>>528508684Honestly, yeah. All this talk about Kris' gender and stuff like that is always so tiresome. Right now I'm trying to disengage with politics (since it really fucks up my mental state, haha), and the release of the new chapters has made me hyperfocus on Deltarune (to stop thinking about politics).
I used to be a big Krerdly shipper, but seeing how Kris acted in chapter 4, I've come to the conclusion that Berdly deserves someone better. I still think they're cute together though
https://x.com/TheYisusOne/status/1936789449062379807
>>528509579I would like to see Papyrus.
>>528510020You're fictional and also a wiener nerd, Catti. You couldn't kill your creator even if you wanted to. This isn't The Hex.
>>528509579Berdly being a mandatory partner for the festival (likely) and a playable party member (unlikely)
A proper schizo boss like in the good ol' days
Another Rouxls battle
Getting to improve our relationship with Kris
Asgore not being a complete joke (but I don't want him to be a boss either)
>>528509857>Bad capitalist practices Nonsense statement. There are behaviors that not restricted by capitalism, that doesn't mean that they are necessarily inherent to capitalism. Twitter is a private information sharing website, the nature of that information can be art, music, video or just simple text, what people choose to put on there and engage with is their business. If someone makes money by rage baiting thats a consequence of the collectives interest in what they believe to be worthwhile content to engage with. The state of your reality isn't a consequence of capitalism, it's a natural formation of individual desires culminating into what we see now , for better or worse, and that won't change unless you literally force people to change. what would have instead? Twitter isn't an art platform, like I said, there's a reason most artist use a secondary archiving site like pixiv or deviantart.
>>528510063I always thought Catti hated Susie because of her reputation, she doesn't know anything about what happened so she just assumes Susie is the same person she was 4 days ago.
>>528510468Capitalism simply takes advantage of people's base urges and makes them comfortable by feeding them non-stop slop, that's the greatest trap it ever conceived.
>Twitter isn't an art platform, like I saidYes, but somehow we arrived at a state where in practice it's the most popular art platform anyway, a state that was not preferable because it negatively affects artist culture by dumbing it down for the lowest common denominator.
>>528510370Berdly is the only one of Kris's friendships we know for sure isn't in any way transactionary (Susie is a pawn for the Knight, Catti for occultism but then dropped, Noelle for schoolwork)
Berdly is the only person Kris hangs out with just because they like playing video games with him
Berdly can fix them
Is there a decent mod that adds the console-exclusive content to the PC version of Undertale?
>>528510370Kris's weird route actions are pretty sweet at least
>>528510585Reputation and the thing with Jockington's hat, Catti seems to actively hate Susie instead of just being afraid of her like the other Hometown goons so there might be something we don't know about yet
>>528510439>Getting to improve our relationship with KrisYou get that every chapter, that's what the moss is for
>>528510663Capitalism doesn't do anything, it's a framework people build on under it's limited restrictions. When you say "capitalism allows" or 'capitalism does" what you really mean to say is "capitalism doesn't stop people from doing something". You can't assign blame through inaction. Twitter has become what it as become naturally, it's the fault of people, the individual, who are taking an easier way to get what they want, because that's what humans are designed to do, recognize patterns and achieve goals efficiently. Again I ask you, what do you want to do. Imagine you have the power to change things to how you want them to be, with the exception of controlling individual autonomy. What would you change?
>>528510673Very good fan art, even when Berdly gets a nice-looking piece dedicated to him the artist understandd he'd still suck to be with.
>>528510673Honestly, I don't think Kris' relationships with others are purely transactional. They do seem to care for other people, it's just that they've got a plan they really want to (or are made to) act upon. But the actions they do, on both routes (as exemplified by
>>528510804, but also by talking to Noelle off-screen; and when you try to be mean to Ralsei in his room), do showcase that Kris does genuinely care about people.
Though I would really enjoy some fic where Berdly, through his social awkwardness, manages to bring out the best from Kris. That's what I like about shipping, a good ship manages to make both characters even better.
>>528509881enlightenment depression
>>528511015>capitalism doesn't stop people from doing something. You can't assign blame through inaction.There are tons of practices that observably and actively manipulate people into doing something (buying products). There is pretty clear action here.
>What would you change?I'd keep xitter as a social media gossip trashcan it was designed to be and make sure artists still have dedicated thriving platforms of their own by not issuing retarded policies like tumblr and DA did. Pixiv it's fine but I don't really get a sense of community from it, it's just a gallery.
>>528510989I don't recall any visible change in their attitude towards us after eating moss
I want something more tangible , ike we get separated from them somehow and they're struggling to open some passageway and we can open it for them
>>528511443Just keep eating the moss and it will all work out in the end
>>528507470Fluidqueer, whatever that means.
>Susie is holding Kris's knife when making the dark fountain
Where the fuck does it end up
>>528507470Drachegenus
>Drachegenus is a mythogender identity in which one's gender is defined by a deep, lifelong connection to dragons.Kris became Susiesexual
>>528507470>christinegenderjesus christ why
>>528495459reminder to donate to the against malaria foundation.
