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Homonnens edition

>What is this?
A mass-multiplayer survival game, set in the Dune universe.
A mix of PvE and PvP, focusing heavily on PvP in the endgame.

>Links
https://duneawakening.com/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172710/Dune_Awakening/

>Crowd-sourced DD map
https://vps800955.ovh.net/maps_dune_awakening/
https://www.planetologist.app/

>THREAD GUILDS:
US: Dune, Solitary, Sietch Tabr (Atrei UH des)
EU: Spice Rats, Solaria, Sietch Tabr (Atrei UH des)

Hello brother, do you have a moment to talk about the Webspinner?

>>528495369 (OP)
awww i was finally about to do it and use picrelated and reference the scout nerf announcement coming tomorrow

every zone from now should be a no-fly zone. ornis are instantly shot down, eaten by a worm or something. because flying sucks ass.

>makes the map feel small
>perilous adventure is replaced with flying (a loading screen when the novelty wears off)
>never see other players
>the flying mechanics are not interesting

>>528496542
>the flying mechanics are not interesting
i think the gliding is actually pretty fun

>>528495664
More like the Meatspinner

>>528496703
Canyon gliding is especially so

>>528496915
Every now and again I consider moving my base up the shield wall, but then I take my sweeping right turn home from the norther edge of the map and go 'nah, I'll stay here.'

>>528497156
i'm in the rift so i get to do a cool vertical nosedive everytime i go home. similar feel

>>528496542
>>makes the map feel small
>>perilous adventure is replaced with flying (a loading screen when the novelty wears off)
>>never see other players
>>the flying mechanics are not interesting
So don't fly then? I made a mk5 sandbike and take it out for fun just to explore and revisit the world.

is there a way to auto-fill water bottles or auto-empty them? do you guys really click 900 times whenever you're emptying a morning water harvest from a stack of decaliters?

>>528497670
I believe in the AMA they said it's coming, and I bet it'll probably be the big QoL patch coming early July

>>528497625
yeah im going to do that for the story missions then stop playing. the problem is the contracts seem to be designed for the orni. Overall I've really enjoyed my time with this game and I look forward to see where they go with it

the assault copter gliding is so ass i'm going back to scout

>>528497259
Maybe there's a connection between liking overdramatic monolithic architecture and similarly overdramatic vistas and flight manoeuvres.

First time out in the Deep Desert, I might try to catch some early mornings to get the bare minimum done. Is there a somewhat efficient way of going about collecting the essentials solo? I know the larger vehicles are out of scope, but I'd love to be able to build the stuff outlined in the 'Ultimate Machinery' achievement.

>>528496542
yeah, but flying your two bros around who are still stuck in the iron and steel age with them standing on the top is fun as fuck.

worth it to survey the entire deep desert for 8100xp? it would be painful

>>528498104
definitely.

>>528498668
didn't even know you could do that to be honest. sounds like a good endgame source of xp after you've done all of the quests and journeys.

>>528497770
i've been using an autoclicker for it in the meanwhile but it's probably the biggest sign that the devs don't play their own game, the little 'common sense' missing features like this

i like standard sword moveset, dagger is too tactical knife fighty, should've been a flashy assassin to go with the heh nothing personnel weirdo step, the rapier reach is meh but poison is nice. sword move feels like a lightsaber.

>>528499867
>dagger is too tactical knife fighty, should've been a flashy assassin
what universe do you think this game takes place in? assassin's creed?

mfw they add faction pvp to the DD to soft-prevent ganksquads and the ganksquads just divide their guild into atredeis/harko hitsquad splits instead
literally all they have to do is remove rockets from the scout thopters and it solves the entire domino effect of problems that stem from it
that's it
why the fuck are they being so weird about it

How much stuff can you stick in the bank if I want a break?

>>528500782
not much

how important is server selection in this? me and a couple of buddies went to a low pop server and i don't think i've seen a single other person in the 10 hours we've played

>>528500041
the one where swordmaster does a twisting backflipkick into a whirlwind slash

>have to respec twice to finish the advanced trainer quest
>now do it 4 times
>each time takes 96 hours
lmao what a shitty game design, sorry faggot but I dont use half of those shitty skills you want me to use

>>528498668
i half did that, but ultimately, outside the 33 points in bene gesserit for the health stuff and 26 in planetologist, player power just doesn't increase enough to warrant being 200 quicker, especially given new context will be released that will probably have experience rewards anyway.

i looked at it as speeding to a red light, on the road to literally nothing because my character is 99% as good as it will ever be

>>528502656
go to the deep desert and leave through a different entrance than you came in and it resets instantly. no clue how long the bug will last before they patch it so take advantage while you can.

>>528502434
You gain nothing from switching to a high pop server

>>528502785
based? based

>>528500772
that would solve everything immediately though fr
why does a "scout" thopter have the same fucking missiles the assault one does anyway?

sorry for the haze due to the storm.

rate my base. trying to make it look less like a black block

>>528502785
today we feature this post, coming soon to a "FREE RESPEC IN DUNE? REAL?!" pogfaced youtube grifter

>>528502978
looks cool anon and bonus point for harko. i kind of want to start a new guy and go full harko with him. pale bald and all

LET ME MOVE SERVER AND PLAY WITH MY FRIENDS
I HAVE PLAYED 100 HOURS BY MYSELF AND IT IS NOT FUN AFTER THE PLOT IS OVER
NIGGERS

>>528503619
have a friend hook you up with a thopter and you can get caught up to them in a day or two with the sheer travel convenience and all their base resources
it's why zerg guilds are such a problem right now, being grandfathered directly into endgame takes maybe 6 hours at a casual pace

are the passive water/air filter things worth it? the filters themselves are ungainly expensive and not having the machine auto-disable when the reservoir is full is a bit of a dealbreaker

>>528502434
most players have bases in the north west areas so if you want to see activity that's where you'll want to be

>accidentally bail out over open desert
>land literally directly in the mouth of a worm
>thopter glides into another
I sure love having fun in video games.

>>528502996
kek probably but i read about it somewhere else, so it's already making the rounds, so i figured i'd share before they patch it.
>>528504657
short answer: usually not

long answer: it depends on the size of your base. you're allowed to have 80 production objects on your fief. if you have two of each refinery, 4-6 fremen deathstills, and one of each major crafting table you still don't even reach 20 objects. that allows you up to around 60 generators. basic 75 power generator x 60 = 4500 power, which will absolutely dwarf the needs of most bases so you don't even have to go that high. the reason it depends on the size of your base is that 60 generators will take up a lot of space and potentially be unsightly if you can't squeeze them in somewhere or align them in a presentable way.

>>528504559
I did that with the family shared 2nd account I made on my server incase I get banned and it truly is fucking broken, I could turn on cheats and just keep giving myself thopters when I get banned, and I doubt it would be an IP ban

>>528502996
huh I can just enter the DD and I get this letting me respec freely. nothing to it

>>528502785
holy fuckballs, thanks

>>528505248
do you know the math on fuel cells per generator? i forgot i can just shit them out everywhere instead of covering my land in goofy turbines
i'm near a major road so i'm going to make a fucking ninja warrior obstacle course out of them

>>528502785
>>528502821
just did it and it worked

>>528505916
Not that anon, but 500 cells last you 20d20h20m. That's it, that's all the math. This means you burn roughly 24 cells per day per generator, and you generate 75 power per generator.

So the Coriolis storm is hitting EU servers in 5 hours, can I be on the deep desert map during it?

>>528505916
yea this anon (>>528506207) beat me to it. it's a lot of cells but you can harvest an outrageous amount of cells with the buggy. 400-600+ per cube depending on your perks and the quality of the buggy cutteray. make sure you fuel them up via your fief console so you don't have to run around to all of them individually.

>>528506409
not sure. only been online for one coriolis storm and the way it played out was that there was a sandstorm with lightning in hagga basin for a full fucking hour beforehand and then the server restarted at the arrival of the storm.

>>528506409
Ironically, the deep desert reset is unceremoniously getting booted, while you have an entire hour of atmospheric build up in Hagga Basin (before also unceremoniously getting booted on reset, to be fair).

>>528506640
yea that storm in the hagga basin was pretty serious just before weekly reset

added a front gate to the pyramid complex. sneed it or keep it?

>>528507504
keep enclosed ramps/entrances are very cool right now

am i missing something in the building controls or are you people really making your mega projects by manually placing and then constructing each tile one by one?

>>528507504
Looks neat

>mfw i accidentally deconstructed foundatioun under console

can you claim vertically 5 times in a row or nah

>>528508460
>are you people really making your mega projects by manually placing and then constructing each tile one by one?
yes
play with legos sometime you bitch, it's cathartic

>>528508714
mayb, you might know this but vertical claims expand both up and down simultaneously, so if your plan is to take ownership of one of those tall peaks you may want to start building somewhere in the middle of it.

>>528508460
it's not even that many parts. the entire fully furnished pyramid and all of it's internals, lights, rugs, bits, and bobs all only adds up to ~1500 pieces.

>>528508713
oof, all that stake money gone, like tears in the rain

>>528509576
oh i just wanted the extra production but that is also very good to know

>>528508714
yes, 5 vertical, 5 horizontal. the veritcals not only expand up and down but also cover expand from each of your horizontals

>>528510547
jesus christ i can't type anymore. it's 8am the tomorrow (today), time to go to bed.

>>528510547
>>528509576
why has noone made a 900 meter high memewall base yet

wont let me log in for about 10 minutes now

do you guys prefer truck or thopter for gathering the jazmatite or whateverfuckium its called over in Sheol? i didn't realize it was so easy to just, drive there
but it's far as hell away and i'm not sure if that beats being able to just glide pockets of it back and forth

>>528511160
Thopter for quick fill ups, trucks if you really need a lot. But my base is decently far away from Sheol, and the distance is the biggest deciding factor I think. If you are close by I'd never go thopter.

my game is stuck doing this, how do i get in?

>>528511160
i get my neighbour to airlift my buggy there then i drive back, which takes a bit but it's way more fun mining there in the buggy.
don't need to worry about the goo shit or getting lost in a cave system as your rad bar is max'ing out

>>528511160
thopter is literally faster than anything in the game, just go back and forth, I havent even built the buggy yet and Im finished with plastanium tier and have over 1000 melange in storage.

why in the heck cant i sometimes fire my weapon anymore, being shot to shit by npcs and i cant do anything but run away in the southern ironworks

Deathstills creep me out.

>>528512072
Gotta relog, happened to me two or three times

>>528512158
these fremen are real sickos, just like real arabs

>>528511996
>I havent even built the buggy yet
You really should have tried it, unless there's no resources in your base's vicinity. Yes the thopter is fast, but buggy storage and cutter yield are incredible compared to thopter storage and handcutter. Obviously you can easily reach plastinium only with thopters but with any resource that doesn't require a long drive the buggy is a huge time saver and big qol.

>>528512410
my base doesnt even have a door, you can only get in through the roof.

>mfw i didn't know that each time you crafted plastone it gives you 250, for some reason I thought it was 1 for each so I farmed like a motherfucker, now I have a medium container full of basalt...

>>528510792
gotta build the wall and make the fremen pay for it, greedy water goblins

wtf does the Atreides buggy variant look like? Cant find anything on google just the copter.

>>528513769
Triangle tracks is all I remember, there is one on the open air top level in Arrakeen

>only a few more hours until the AMA
The salt is going to be pretty major after this.

>>528512734
my server has a lot of cool bases around but I found some insane shit just now

>>528510792
I started on that, built a meme stairway up the shieldwall, but abandoned it halfway and remade my fief and base into the great CHOAM pyramid.

reminder

>>528514392
I mean look at this

>>528514520
dude mogs the fuck out of me

>>528514520
lol at the literal box next to it

>>528514661
Yeah no matter how hard I try both on my server and online everyone just runs laps around me with their large scale bases that look amazing, when I pay a buttload of taxes for an oversized shitbox, it's saddening.

>>528514661
crazy autism

>>528514520
>its just a bunch of stacked ugly boxes

I mean, come on.

>>528514813
Would be kino if it wasn't for the oversized-yet-skinny column holding up a couple hundred tons of granite

>>528514859
That's almost every base. But his is cool because vertical. i saw a really cool base that put the pentashield in the bottom and you let the thopters drop out of it.

>>528514859
Let's see your base, anon.

>>528496542
Go do any of the questlines and tell me flying is bad. The world is empty as fuck and static, there is no fun in the traversal once you get over the first few hours of worm dodging and then realise its never actually a threat

>>528514661
>>528514813
Im going with the other guy, its just an ugly box. For one look at his walling. Its just foundations over and over. The game gives you a shitton of options with Atreides to put diversity on the walls, set them back with support structures, ect.

>>528514330
I fully expect a double down with a massive amount of condescending commentary that they know best and "just wait 6-12 months and then you'll see"

>>528515539
Not him, but I hate how worms have become this test of discipline for not collecting too much spice at once and/or not collecting from all panels on a shipwreck. I don't know how many times I've had a worm pass below me while hovering in a thopter now and I feel nothing. It's still scarier to try and cross any stretch of open desert on a bike, let alone in a buggy, but why would I ever do that now?

>>528515770
The consensus seems to be that it's a vocal minority of faggots complaining about instant gank squads. The gank squads do exist, but they are way rarer than people pretend.

>>528515669
>>528514813
As an example, not my design I just copied the Atr fort, but this sort of stuff helps break up the structure to make it look more interesting and diverse so it isn't just a box.

>>528516000
I think it will be another one or two weeks, maybe even an entire month before the casual majority is anywhere close to done with T5 and running into the brickwall that is the deep desert as a solo casual.

>>528516000
It genuinely does not matter if its true or not. Every single modern game in this genre has solo/coop/PvE servers or some other option and Dune doesn't as well as lying about the game being PvP optional. The devs are scummy and they have to either fix it or the game dies, PvE always has more players than PvP.

>>528513769
All of the designs/armors can be seen in NPC villages or forts

>>528515539
>The world is empty as fuck and static,
I treat it like a theme park mmo. It's painfully clear that this game was going to be full pvp at one point so the world is static like conan.

Imagine paying taxes.

anyone seen a guild that light rp's as a minor house or otherwise bothers with uniforms etc

>>528516434
Had they just designed it start to finish for PvE this would have been a much better game. We only needed matchmaking PvP and custom player arenas, this tacked on economy/high risk high reward pvp bullshit was a mistake.

>>528516000
often you get fair warning too, if someone is seething in zone chat, it might be a bad time to go through the B row

>>528516000
>he consensus seems to be that it's a vocal minority of faggots complaining about instant gank squads.
The entire DD is badly designed and you're trolling to say otherwise.

>>528516000
They didn't even design the game for PVP, it's thrown on at the last second as an afterthought to everything else.

It may not have been intended that way, I'm sure the creative designer thought he had really great ideas or some other egotistical solipsistic bullshit, but the reality is that there are no actual mechanics in place to nudge players into "appropriate" gameplay. You've now got gank squads of bored competitive players thirsty for even a morsel of a fight who are just murdering solo players and avoiding anyone as big or bigger than them because they don't want to be ganked either, and nothing nudges them into roughly even pvp interactions. You've got solo players adapting to gank squads by flying just about naked farming spice/mats in the most gamey un-immersive possible way with nothing but their inventory slots, basic tools, and pokeball thopters and just pocketing the thopter/suiciding when caught out. You've got a PVP meta that was instantly just thopter gank squads because there are no alternatives - you can't drive anywhere because worms are all timer based and not skill based, there are no vehicle shields, and the deep desert design precludes enough rocks to make driving work. Without ground vehicles that can reliably travel in the desert and effective anti-air options no shit aircraft will dominate.

Either we only have half the game actually live, or there was literally zero forethought put into how the various PVE/PVP game mechanics were going to mesh together and absolutely zero understanding of human psychology or any acknowledgement of lessons learned from 30 fucking years of past MMO's.

the game's current state could have been predicted a lightyear away by anyone with an IQ over 40, the creative guy for this dev team is a fucking retard until proven otherwise by something like half the game being held back from launch causing it to be left in a state of utter shit

>>528511542
okay it eventually resolved itself.

Good or bad?

>>528517116
What part of it do you dislike?

>>528517181
Funcom made Conan and thought a 100% PvP map was a good idea.

Their entire player base was playing PvE servers, mostly porn ones but still. They learn nothing.

>>528517484
>>528517181
And from Conan you can actually answer some of these questions like:
> various PVE/PVP game mechanics were going to mesh together
The answer is that everything before endgame is to be discarded. Just like Conan. It exists to get you to endgame than be ignored. Tanks didn't make the cut but they might have some limited use for defending spice fields if they ever get added back in. More likely they were deliberately removed when they decided on full flight meta.

>>528517268
When things say they run hotter or cooler, it means a malus or a bonus vs durability loss. In this case the unique item has better durability (it may even apply to the whole thopter and not just the booster but that will require testing)

Is that good? I personally think so, as the only time you're boosting is your initial ascent and boosting neither increases your top speed nor allows you to maintain your top speed in a climb. The speed might matter in PVP to buy you a couple extra seconds but in PVE durability is going to matter a lot more than reaching glide altitude 2 seconds faster.

>>528517423
It would be easier to describe the good parts of DD, which is quite literally nothing. Not one thing, in any shape or form, is well thought out or designed. It doesn't consider how or why anyone plays video games and has therefore not satisfied anyone. Pick any part of it you think is good and Ill explain why its dogshit.

>>528517423
FFA PvP is just a cheap and uninventive gamedesign.
Not even faction-based. Whats the point in joining houses then besides cosmetics?

>>528517745
Having now gotten back to base and looked at it closer. The only difference is that the normal thruster has 150 extra heat and the Unique has 125. The speeds, on the stat sheet at least, are identical. So assuming that's true its an upgrade, weird text makes it seem slower.

the problem is deep desert can be ignored completely anyway

just skip tier 6

the problem is there is nothing else to do, so people really need to either get that tier 6 or leave

and it is not fun, ornithopter over open desert was ok for a couple hours. they needed something else, like anything. the pvp part is only 1 shitty part of the whole picture

>>528518068
>>528518068
You don't like exploring a big, empty map and making a small base to eke out a survival?

Finished the conversion and redesign of my base to Atreides faction parts
1/4

>>528517738
I got the general feel from how absolutely casualized the entire PVE segment of the game is, that it's intended to be practically speaking, skipped over as fast as possible in order to reach the meat of the game - the PVP

Which is why it's so perplexing to me that there's no meat. There is nothing about the PVP that functionally creates and sustains open-world conflict like .e.g Planetside 2 does. Nor is there any kind of systemetized PVP mechanic with set teams and a start/finish combat gameplay loop where your team fights over some objective with limitations on respawns, vehicles, player numbers etc. to curate the fights so they're competitive and relatively fair. (and frankly fun PVP doesn't jive with leveled gear/leveled characters - all you get down that road is ganking)

Instead of something interesting, the PVP is just the PVE part of the game but you can shoot other players at any time, Eve-Online style.

And just like Eve-Online it immediately devolved into gank squads and griefers who derive fun out of fucking with other people and not getting fucked with by other people in a sort of metagame rather than playing through/with the existing game mechanics (because these mechanics don't even fucking exist).

It is a total mystery what the actual fuck they were planning here. If there is literally nothing else to the PVP/Deep Desert than what they have right now - if there isn't actually a 40GB update coming in 2 weeks with the rest of the game attached, this game is dead on arrival. Developing and fleshing it out properly is going to require easily a year's worth of development time, asset creation, playtesting, game mechanic testing, etc. etc and they will not have anyone playing it in 2 months to sustain any of that investment.

The state of this game is inexcusable. It is borderline maliciously bad. Like someone at the high level wanted to sabotage it out of the gate rather than develop something that'll last the company the next decade.

Guild on Solaria is about to implode.
Where do I go for an actual guild?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu3DVPr-lAM

Sums it up for me, really, something people have been saying through multiple generals. And he is a big normie streamer

>>528518674
2/4

>>528517423
Here is how I would have designed the DD/Landsraad.

The Landsraad is running 24/7 with its challenges, donating gives you points towards the house rewards and points with your faction. This is the PvE part of the game and you can gear up to T6 with rewards from this alone, except it is slower than harvesting/playing in the DD. Whatever side at the end of the week donated the most to each house wins a point from that house, most point wins that week and gets to pick the decree.

You now enter the DD via a thopter for your faction capital, its faction PvP only and you arrive at your factions outpost in the DD. From there, you buy PvP gear/armor/vehicles (separate from T6 and unique to this zone only) with points you got from donating to the Landsraad which you can deposit in the bank there or use. From this point you can either leave as a solo/guild and go harvest resources or you can take up contracts which puts you in teams to do the same (i.e. go to this site and clear it, protect this region for X time, gather 1000 resources, collect 1000 spice, ect), your rewards come from how much you contributed and is based on resources collected/kills/assists/avoiding death/holding objectives/ect. Additionally the DD is now in two parts, the first half has ultra hot air space making air travel near impossible, the second part is cooler and allows air vehicles, you can choose which part you play in via what missions you take.

Congratulations, you've given PvE players an endless treadmill and PvP players a fair way to fight.

>>528518673
>making a small base to eke out a survival?
that a 10 man squad could mark for extermination, to which you are helpless and your time is lost, with no means like an anti air gun to even pretend to be able to harm even a single 1 of them?

at least if there was a base turret, you could get in and shoot at them, even ineffectually. it is worse than that

>>528518769
It took SIX years to get to this point and I have to ask fucking how.

>>528518769
Did you ever play rust?
>>528518797
I watched about half of that. He just wants a full pve DD for people to stick to? The DD is still boring as fuck without pvp.

>>528518828
3/4

>>528517268
the boost speed is lower, so you're doing 100 instead of 130 when boosting on a flat. bad. use normal version.

>>528518942
>rust
NTA but Rust is a completely unique game in this genre and not at all comparable. The progression/gearing system is totally different. It would be like if you could in Dune start the game and instantly go into the DD with a copper weapon and kill a full T6 guy within 10 minutes.

>>528518985
4/4

>>528519082
At release rust was just an empty world where you looted some chests then shot people. Dayz was basically the same.

>>528519001
That makes more sense thanks anon

>>528519173
Also had zombies, fun times

>>528518942
>I watched about half of that. He just wants a full pve DD for people to stick to? The DD is still boring as fuck without pvp.
Then you need to watch the other half, as his suggestion is a temp fix to allow PVE to experience the full game while Funcom fixes PVP. Its two parts; PVE players quitting at T6 which is causing the whole game to get a public black eye, and the whole DD PVP endgame being so janky that Funcom needs a bandaid on it until they can implement something that works.

>>528518769
>The state of this game is inexcusable.
A week to two weeks ago people were calling it the greatest game ever. This is reminding me so much of new world and diablo. Streamers have created horrid honeymoon periods for games.

>>528519495
>until they can implement something that work
Would it even take that long? All they need to do is remove air vehicles and it would instantly be 90% more fun. Just you and a buddy or two driving through the desert and hiding in rocks.

>>528519001
Why are you boosting on a flat run? The only purpose I can see for a boost is to gain altitude faster. Your glide speed is 160-165km/h on the base thopter and doesn't overheat anything, so there's no point I can see to having the engine on or the boosters running whether its 100km/h or 130km/h when you could be gliding at 160km/h.

>>528519082
From looking at the gear progression, a T5 weapon will do something like 100 damage, and a T6 weapon of the same type will do 160. This is absolutely broken from a competitive standpoint - anyone with T6 gear just mops the floor against T5 gear, the player skill won't factor into it much.

This doesn't create a good competitive environment, if only because it means 100 hour investment just to start having fun in PVP, which nobody who is interested in PVP but not PVE will want to do. Your basic bitch gear needs to be competitive against the high end stuff or nobody is going to bother. Smarter design would've been higher levels opening up more utility, adaptability, and flexibility in loadouts and gear, rather than just being the same gear but overpowered.

>>528519710
>From looking at the gear progression, a T5 weapon will do something like 100 damage, and a T6 weapon of the same type will do 160.
In melee, which is not only the most fun PvP but also very popular its a straight up 2x damage difference. For every hit the enemy lands you have to land twice as many.

>>528519637
Not enough rocks to hide around, so a good 90% of the desert would instantly become inaccessible unless they change how the worm mechanic works.

So long as worms will *always* pop up and attack you after 1-2 minutes without a timer reset, there is no way to incorporate ground vehicles or ground-based combat into the game.

>>528519001
boosting is just slower generally, so you climb slower, you everything slower.

>>528519924
The DD is randomly generated. It shouldn't be hard to make it 90% rocks and up the worm timer to something super high like fifteen minutes.

>>528519935
for
>>528519710

>>528519637
thats not going to work for one big reason; its against the IP. Just watch nuDune 1 and you see their vision. Unfortunately for Funcom a cinematic movie experience does not translate into a PVP game very well.

So am I understanding this correctly;

If you make advance sub fief you have to pay taxed every 10 days or your base will be taken down, half of the generator capacities

If just make a regular sub fief you have no taxes and just need to refuel for the shield up to 20 days

So technically you have to log at least once each 10 days/20 days. You also need to farm money for the taxes and im heading on a two week vacations so im gonna lose my main? Wtf

>>528520095
>Unfortunately for Funcom a cinematic movie experience does not translate into a PVP game very well.
Match made Faction PvP would have been fucking perfect from day 1 and been cinematic as fuck. Who the fuck doesn't want to see you and twenty others taking off in thopters and jeeps going across the sand to a blowout while the other side sends their teams to stop you.

>>528520156
The only issue is being there to refuel, the amount of resources needed is minimum. If you decide to stop playing you could power everything down and have enough money/power stored to keep you going all year or longer.

If that sounds boring logging in every 20 days, you can simply pick everything up and put it in the bank. Its free and safe forever.

actually what is bothering me the most is the word 'pvp' being used when i don't get to shoot a single person

can someone explain to me what pvp elements are involved in asymmetric shitty airplane rocket with 1 (only 1) weapon to use and no player abilities?

>>528520507
It's the greatest pvp of all. Ruining someone elses progress.

the annoying 'smooch' noise when you start a truck engine is driving me insane, why the fuck does the truck turn off if you solo swap to the mining chair

>>528520232
For some reason they have explicitly said repeatedly they will never do this and the DD has to be FFA pvp.

>>528519710
> a T5 weapon will do something like 100 damage, and a T6 weapon of the same type will do 160
nta, but for the uniques, it's about 30-40% higher damage for a t6 unique over t5. the one armour piece i looked at t6 unique over t5 unique was lower, in the 20s %. difference is bigger comparing green for green, but i don't think you should even use bigboy ingots on green gear. it's not really a crazy ask for someone in a boosted thopter to rat out there in the dd to mine enough for a couple of weapons worth of ore and spice.

>>528519935
>>528520069
You only need to climb for a few seconds every flight.
Most flights are going to be 3-5 minutes gliding, 15 seconds climbing.

If booster A cuts your 15 seconds climb to 5 seconds, and booster B cuts 15 seconds to 10 seconds, the overall time saved on a 300 second flight is 5-10 seconds. In other words so negligible as to the point it doesn't matter at all. On the other hand a 10% improvement on durability could save you multiple HOURS of time spent farming mats for replacement parts over the course of days/weeks/months.

I can only ever see a higher boost speed mattering in PVP where climbing 5 seconds faster actually has a meaningful impact.

>>528520035
If the worms were actual things that travel around the map and you could track them, observe them, report their locations and most importantly AVOID THEM, then you can have ground combat in the game. Give each worm a huge range, like 5km, where any vibrations will start attracting it, and the highest combined value of vibrations within its range is the direction the worm will be attracted in.

This lets you have players in scout thopters following worms to report in public chat or in guild/party chat where a worm is going. This lets players in ground vehicles watch out for worms at a distance to try and avoid them. This lets players strategically place thumpers to try and attract worms away from convoys or fights on the ground. When you start having explosions and holtzman fields and people shooting each other, you start immediately getting worms attracted to that area too, and in a couple minutes people will have to watch out for them.

Suddenly you have dynamic gameplay that players can work with and around, which doesn't completely invalidate the existence of ground vehicles and which will still bring worms to any areas of action while giving smarter and cautious players ways to avoid it relatively reliably, even in open desert.

good pvp video, guy uses a guided launcher to encourage ground combat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu9EJMLoOSI

>>528521074
when the fighting is on the ground it looks fucking fun

for fucks sake though i have never seen it

>>528521072
nah, when you use the purple one over the standard one, you will do it for about 2 minutes then scrap it. it feels slow as balls. any dura/heat/whatever loses out to the feeling of number went down.

>>528520730
Funcom are idiots graced by good IPs, if they went out on their own they would flop so hard

>>528520330
So taxes get taken directly from bank'd money ? Ok thats good to know. Does the copy of your base just save the structure or all the furniture/refineries you made. Im sure you have to farm all the mats again to rebuild if so.

Also your bank is only 1500 v in capacity. Good luck stashing anything else than bare essential in it

>>528520904
Anything but 1:1 damage in PvP is inexcusable.

>>528521461
You need to log in to pay.
>Also your bank is only 1500 v in capacity. Good luck stashing anything else than bare essential in it
Ores are irrelevant, its all the others bits that you need to keep and they are light. You can keep an entire buggy, thopter and every single blue/green/orange craftable you have.

>>528521613
If you have a buggy and a cutteray you can skip through most of the tiers.

>>528521074
And the day they add arenas or matchmaking or any form of PvP at all I will love it. Its a shame the game didn't launch with any PvP at all.

>>528521226
It happens in this video.

fuck, i think the chinese have found a dupe, server is down for no good reason.

>>528521859
Are you obtuse

>>528522036
No, I'm saying we must be interpreting the vision wrong.

>>528520904
If it's higher than ~15% difference it's too big a difference for PVP to stay competitive/interesting.

Competitive games require teams being relatively fairly balanced. Nobody wants to jump into PVP and 2-3 of them attack a guy and he just causally walks up to them in the most inept herbivore redditor way and incompetently stabs at them, can't parry anything, can't aim for shit, and still gets instakills while their guns/knives do absolutely fuck all because they're 3 levels under him.

That is not how you get a fun PVP environment. That is game design by someone who's an incompetent idiot who can't compete in PVP who thinks retard thoughts like "I spent 60 hours grinding for this loot so despite being bad at this game I should autowin any fights I get into". When a game is like that you have no actual player skill attached to the PVP mechanics, which makes the PVP itself boring and formulaic.

This game is straddling between a destiny-like game and an MMO experience and it's fucking up at both. If they want an MMO it needs more players per server, more focus on survival elements, and less/no PVP. If they want something destiny-esque with some kind of competitive PVP gameplay in it, then they need to ditch the level and gear progression tiers and put players on roughly equal footing whether they're 60 hours in or 2000.

This game is so fucking schizo in design its crazy. They don't know what they wanted, they never planned for what they wanted, and as a result they've got nothing on the table that's going to satisfy anyone whether it's a PVE or a PVP player. Literally just a 100 hour themepark ride. What a shitshow.

>>528522152
A lot goes over your head doesn't it

105 in queue to the world map and i've never seen anyone in queue before?

>>528522164
I fondly remember getting annihilated in Conan because my enemies would farm at 4am when we weren't online to kill them then dumping a god on us.

https://duneawakening.com/news/a-message-from-the-creative-director-on-pve-and-pvp/

>>528523972
>unshaved, brown eyes, fat
It's already not looking good

>>528523972
why is his ugly mug front and center

>>528523972
PvEGODS we won.

>>528524263
pve carebears always win.

>>528522021
>i think the chinese have found a dupe
https://www.reddit.com/r/duneawakening/comments/1lhxp2s/welcome_to_dune_awakening_but_all_your/
>first post is a mod whining about discrimination
kek
the chinese have been aggressively demonstrating why they need to be rangebanned and segregated from the rest of the internet, but also poking a million holes in funcom's retarded front-end code
they're doing everything from duping, to auto-completing landsraads within microseconds, to botting gathering nodes like it's fucking warcraft and even spawning/stealing vehicles en masse through sheer oriental fuckery

they were absolute nightmares for doing all of the above in the conan game when it came out, too. it's insane to me that a people supposedly renown for industrious nature go this hard on avoiding any form of effort in digital spaces

>>528524515
Because we actually play the game.

>>528523972
>PvE zones for T6 in the DD
Watch the griefers absolutely lose their shit over this lmao

>>528524631
>activate windows

>>528523972
I'm fine with this. I'll build a base near the PVE zone and murder anyone who leaves it.

>>528523972
>Scout Ornithopters with rocket launchers attached will have their speed maneuverability reduced
>Rockets fired from Scout Ornithopters will have increased heat generation
>Thrusters will provide a max speed bonus regardless of wings, ensuring that thruster equipped scouts will be the fastest vehicles in the game
>A new T5 infantry rocket launcher will be added to help improve the dynamics of vehicle/ground combat
bro
just remove rockets from the fucking scouts
these retards are warping THE ENTIRE ENDGAME around the presence of scout thopters with rocket launchers
remove the fucking vehicle weapons and you solve the entire thing
rename 'assaults' to 'heavies', increase their carry size to truck-level values, do not ever put a weapon on a vehicle ever again
>but dune has vehicular combat
okay and funcom sucks at implementing it, fuck you

>>528518794
What is wrong with it?

>>528524631
>it's insane to me that a people supposedly renown for industrious nature go this hard on avoiding any form of effort in digital spaces
China is dominating because they're not held back by stupid ass ideas like work is its own reward. The outcome is the reward, not the work, if you can get something done cheap, easily and fast it should be done that way. The only part they fucked with was quality but they're beginning to learn how important that is.

>>528523972
>The reality is that players are reporting being cut out of the endgame due to the extremely competitive nature of the Deep Desert. Starting soon, some areas of the Deep Desert will now be flagged as “Partial Warfare (PvE)” areas where players will be able to explore testing stations and harvest T6 resources without the threat of conflict they may not want.

As a bandaid this will work for about 2 more weeks, but there's no actual endgame content for PVE. It's a linear progression, once people have their T6 they're going to quit. This does at least alleviate (not very well, but at least its there) the huge issue in the disparity between a T6 weapon and a T5 weapon. 2x damage difference means a T5 weapon isn't just bad to use, it's unusable in actual PVP.

So this does 3 things:
1. PVE players can gear up to the same level as PVP and then play in PVP, this keeps the PVP population alive. It would be better if there wasn't tier progression at all but this works.
2. Gives PVE players something to do for another week or two.
3. Gets more players out into the deep desert, providing more pop to PVP

>Thrusters will provide a max speed bonus regardless of wings, ensuring that thruster equipped scouts will be the fastest vehicles in the game
kek makes the whole discussion we just had around >>528517268 moot, now there's zero reason to ever use the stormrider unique.

>>528524946
I think they have some fundamental game design goal in mind with vehicles, but they're missing all the other shit they should have for PVP right now that would make scout thopters with rockets less of an issue. If it were me in charge I'd just remove the fucking rockets from BOTH thopters and make it clear they're not coming back until there's a full air defense/air attack ecosystem in place, which requires more than just a new T5 missile launcher.

>>528525323
>2x damage difference
we've been through this. 30-40% difference.

>>528525323
>So this does 3 things:
Not quite because at least 50% of the pve population will never engage with pvp. Ever. So they just get a week of grinding before getting bored again.

>>528523972
Nice announcement, now watch as these PVE herbivores get to t6 in 3 days and complain about having nothing to do

>>528525504
>Adept Kindjal 54
>Regis Kindjal 115.43
>Adept Sword 59.7
>Regis Sword 126.97
>Adept Karpov 45.7
>Regis Karpov 72
Now stop posting

>>528525759
they will get to work on reddit making some of the pvp capture points actually pve capture points

I've done almost everything in Higgs, so I'm about to hit Deep Desert. So far I kind of winged it with the skills, mostly just using mobility abilities and some repair/resource efficiency passives.
What are some actual good skills to have for Deep Desert (so I assume mostly PvP?)? Especially curious about the active abilities. Also do you need to hard spec into either ranged or melee? I've been using a sniper rifle and a sword about equally often so far, but I've only done PvE.

>>528525759
>>528525518
No one cares that your little grief pool just got destroyed. We don't want to play with you. No, you're not good players, either in skill or sensibility. No, we will not join you in your guild zerg flesh mill to get camped and killed so you can laugh with your 'friends'.

You lost, game over.

>>528525885
The capture points are just worthless. The next goal will be getting rid of those high risk high reward areas and complaining if funcom ever dare to add something for pvp players.
If they take any hints off ark I expect base turrets sometime. Which would be cool because then we would get base raiding gameplay of trying to take down generators.

>>528525504
30% damage difference is nearly as good as 2x, you can't have differences that large between players in competitive PVP.

PVP shit comes down to single percentile digits. 10% better at something is fucking massive. 2% better is a useful edge and people will blow all their in-game cash (and even real money) to get just that much better than everyone else.

30% better is gg I autowin these fights unless it's some kind of gank/team stack.
2x is just straight up gg I win every fight short of unfortunate unlikely circumstance

I only said 2x because a guy commented the melee weapons do 2x, I haven't personally checked them, but in general anything at or past ~15% difference is an enormous advantage in competitive PVP and it's immaterial whether it's 2x or 30%, it's going to be the same problem. You can't have extreme tier progression like this in PVP or people get turned off from playing it.

>>528525929
>What are some actual good skills to have for Deep Desert
Melee: BG+Swordmaster
Ranged: Mentat+Trooper
Good skills just = damage, HP, healing, grappling hook and whatever applies CC. Swordmaster has a slow, trooper has CC nades, ect.

Don't bother with BG stuns though, everyone can counter it by just using the Mentat passive and they do.

>>528526106
Hes trolling, its 1.5 to 2x more for T6 over T5: >>528525850

>>528525759
I definitely prefer pve to pvp, but the main thing stopping me from dabbling in the pvp is lack of options vs vehicles if you are on foot. Hopefully the T5 rocket launcher will help, but honestly after seeing the rest of the announcement, it's probably gonna be a grind the pve section and only ever walk into pvp with top tier shit.

>>528525759
>herbivores
>refering to yourself as a "predator"
Why are griefers so cringe and desperate for validation, was it your dad who beat you or the school kids who bullied you lmao

>>528526293
What I read is they haven't actually changed anything and pve players right now are just creaming their pants over being able to farm a tier higher before entering the exact same pvp endgame.

>>528525850
scroll up to where it's discussed. unique vs unique, it's 30-40%.
>Kharet Viper
>Damage Per Hit 100.14
>Halleck's Pick
>Damage Per Hit 138.52
>Relentless
>Damage Per Shot 32.4
>A Dart for Every Man
>Damage Per Shot 42.8

you're talking about green weapons, which is more or less meaningless, because when you're finished in the basin, you're using purple t5 anyway.

>>528526106
And I'll also add that sometimes even 2% is as big of a difference as 2x more damage - because often it'll come down to Hits to Kill or something like that. If 2% more damage changes the melee combat so you only need 2 strong attacks to kill someone rather than 3 strong attacks, that is absolutely massive. It's not really a 2% difference in actual gameplay anymore.

This is the thing with PVP shit, you have to be really careful about what you throw into it and actually curate and pay attention to the combat mechanics and tiers or else it's an unbalanced shitfest with a barrier to entry that hurts everyone involved everywhere.

>>528524631
>nigga even stole windows
fucking lmao what a spiritual nigger

Reddit complains enough and PVP gets removed from the game. Very cool.

>>528526106
it doesn't really matter now anyway, because bearded man is giving everyone their 30-40%. without risk, it might even be worth running some of the non unique plastinium gear.

>>528526426
It's actually a pretty big difference as it removes the gatekeeping effect on the PVP, as now everyone is on an equal playing field in terms of gear and utility - even if it's just the superficial appearance/feeling for PVE players, and there was never really anything preventing them from gearing up except their own apprehension, removing that barrier directly means more people getting into PVP.

Genuinely everyone should be happy with this change. PVP players get more PVP, PVE players get more content.

It's not good enough to actually keep this game alive long term by itself, but it bought the game another couple weeks, if not a few months.

>>528526863
The only people actually unhappy are the ones who won't have as many easy kills since funcom are really doubling the idea on letting people run away from combat if they want to.

>>528526506
>unique vs unique
Irrelevant goalpost moving to save face and completely avoiding the issue, ignored.

>>528526863
This. Now all we need is more ground combat, those orni nerfs better be good

>>528527184
just the practical effect of the weapons when they're in use. which you would have seen if you scrolled up.

>>528526863
>Genuinely everyone should be happy with this change
You underestimate how many upset little babies who can't prey on new players there are. Their butthurt like this >>528526506 and >>528525759 will cry and bitch and moan that no one is in the PvP zones anymore because its unfun.

>still posting after being BTFO
Thank fuck they introduced PvE T6 because the fact they expected anyone to use T5 was retarded, now they just need to reduce the damage difference down to at maximum 10%.

This game launched literally without a core dynamic/emergent gameplay loop. That's fucking unreal man.

How do you launch a live-service/online/MMO game and not have any mechanics implemented to keep people logging in and playing it? What the actual fuck are these devs smoking

>>528527243
Do buggys even have a turret option? The game needs a lot of changes for ground combat to matter.

>>528526863
>PVP players get more PVP
not sure where this might be coming from? just the guys who wouldn't engage unless they have all purple t6?

>>528527476
yes buggys can have rocket launchers

>>528527463
I get the feeling a lot of this shit has to do with suits and money men. that goes for almost every game with problems at release
>>528527476
is there an easier way to mine with the buggy solo. then switching seats all the time? if not they need to put that shit in

How the hell do you go into the hagga rift from the north side via buggy? I only found one cave entrance not accessible by vehicles

>>528527476
rockets are in the research tree but I haven't actually built one yet and even if you do build them it's not like you can use them in the deep desert since 2 minutes in the sand = buggy eaten and every point of interest is at least 2 minutes of driving in the sand (nevermind spent fighting over the sand).

So its like, technically yes there are ground vehicles with weapons that maybe can make ornithopters fuck off/die but in actual practical terms they don't exist because you can't actually use them anywhere you'll want to make ornithopters fuck off/die.

I mean I guess you can drop them with a carrier ornithopter and then grab them back up every minute or so but basing your combat mechanics around that idea just sounds stupid as fuck.

I think the game is also being hampered enormously by sandworms not being able to cross game-cells. That's a huge roadblock to making deep desert work right. Fuck they don't even let you fly a carrier ornithopter with a buggy across regions.

>>528527757
They're going to add a QoL feature letting you hotkey swapping seats.

No, fixing bad design isn't on the table. You only get bandaids for broken/retarded shit.

>>528526863
Not more pvp, but pvp as intended. Current pvp summed up would be everyone shooting rockets in the lowest tier thopter. The idea that materials that make the best pvp gear are completely gatekept by pvp is actually fucking retarded and which is the main reason why pvp in this current patch is absolute dog shit. After these changes you'll actually see pvp as intended with people using more than just scouts to fight.

>>528523972
Good message. Lets see how fast and how well they can deliver.

>>528524958
I can't talk specifics but there's some drama

>>528528212
Imagine this.
>20 guys roll up to a heavily fortified player base
>assault copters, tanks, a few buggies
>the tanks start bombarding turrets.
>players rush in a hole to try and hit the generators on foot
>the tanks are pulverising the base from outside
>automated turrets firing on anyone they see
>players on the inside funneled into player constructed kill zones
Absolute bliss.

>>528526065
>high risk high reward
>so people will still find it grindy if they play solo
i can see them removing the pvp from the large spice area if they spawn in the pve part of the dd, so everyone can try the harvester/carrier thing

Just got eaten by the worm (I think it was a bug, I couldn't fly up for some reason). I got a cutscene when they told me it I lose everything upon getting eaten, except for this one time. But then after I respawned I didn't have anything on me, so I actually did lose everything. Am I missing something, or is this some bug?

>>528529053
You lose everything but the first time they give you a bike

>>528529053
you can get a free bike, one time.

As a protip if your thopter gets its landing gear stuck in the ground, dont keep trying to fly away hoping something will change. Hop out, pokeball the thopter, put the thopter back down (if you think you have enough time) and if you don't think you have the time then just let it eat you (you'll keep your thopter at least inside your pokeball)

If you have a suspensor belt and the gesserit sprint, you might be able to dash/hop/glide across into another map cell, which will instantly de-aggro the worm/reset the timer and give you time to pull your thopter out and fly away. I think there's some ability that you can also suspensor jump high enough with to also reset the worm timer and then land again to put the thopter down and fly away.

Gonna be a problem probably until they make thopter landing gear non-physical when the player tries to lift off the ground.

>>528529642
>dont keep trying to fly away hoping something will change
Yeah, I didn't know what was going on, so I just kept trying different angles, tried boosting and even getting out and in, but you're right, should have just cut my losses and pocketed it.
Well, at least I have enough resources for a new one.

>>528525323
>As a bandaid this will work for about 2 more weeks, but there's no actual endgame content for PVE.
this is an issue, but its easy for them to address this quickly or perhaps at all. Once you have t6, the game loop for PVE players ends. So even if they make the direct changes they have listed, they are still going to see a huge fall of the player base. I suspect they hope that once a PVE player has T6 then they will want to PVP, but thats not going to pan out for them. The PVEers that want to PVP have joined guilds already. What they need to do quickly is make it easy to find and recruit into a guild within the game itself.

>we're removing PVP to cater to faggots
Dead game.

>>528532227
>dishonest RMT chink seething

>>528528827
I thought this is literally what the advertised as their concept for this game. I still have no fucking clue how it isn't faction v faction with a mercenaries guild that you can temp pledge to a faction for a reset cycle, with rewards that attempt to help balance out the disparity on the server.

>>528532962
Nta but on my server at least its 90% Atreides I dont think faction v faction is as big of a fix as people think.

>>528532227
They are actually making it easier for players to get into PVP by blending PVE'ers into the PVP environment. You should be happy about this instead of retarded. The only players who can be conceivably upset with this move are low skill gankers who needed a T6 crutch to beat T5 players and aren't interested in anything remotely fair/fun. Which if that's you - get fucked bozo, take the L lmao.

>>528531786
Unfortunately they didn't plan ahead and thought they were making an MMO from 20 years ago. We've learned our lesson from 20 years of MMO design and development, that you cannot sustain these games on a treadmill of developer produced content, as players burn through that content faster than it can be made, and the cruft of all the shit that's made slowly adds up and makes the game an unwieldly expensive mess to maintain and manage and develop for.

The correct way to develop an MMO is to create these repeatable dynamic/emergent gameplay loops where players are challenged but always in new and unique ways intrinsically within the game as-is. This is a very hard problem to solve, but once you've got something with an appropriate amount of replayability (dynamic, emergent, and challenging), you can take as long as you want on other content creation or just sit back and rake in money, because the game is fun to play regardless of whether the developer is adding anything to it. There is no need for an all hands on deck churn of new content once you've got your core gameplay loops ironed out and fun to play.

Now the problem here is that they literally didn't do this and currently there is no dynamic gameplay loop of any kind for neither the PVP nor the PVE players that will keep anyone long-term interested in the game.

They have like 3 months max to figure it out before game pop has died too much to make further long-term investment into it worthwhile.

I've been stuck in this queue for over 2 hours...
I just want to ship my stuff from the desert to the base...

>>528533593
yeah it's broken for me too

>>528533434
Pointless replying to harko retards who only play this game to gank and waste peoples time

>>528533434
>The correct way to develop an MMO
It's not an mmo

>>528533069
It'll be 10% atreides, 3% harkonnen, and 87% fremen when they get the fremen content and faction out

>Muh pve
>Muh pvp
Its good content vs bad content. DD is bad content. There is no PvE / PvP fight and never will be. Nothing announced fixes DD being a boring flight simulator.

>>528508740
What app or website is this for planning?

>>528533745
>fremen faction
I would guess they would be a player class. I am pretty confident the next faction is going to be Tielaxu.

>>528533839
NTA but here's a neat resource when it comes to implementing triangles that I still had from my Conan days.

You motherfuckers

>>528533839
https://apps.mathlearningcenter.org/pattern-shapes/

>>528533069
It is because the pvefags go atreides and win and the pvpers get plenty of game to hunt.

>>528534054
Tleilaxu will be a future skill tree like gesserit, swordmaster, etc. I think. Maybe ixians will be another skill tree as well.

They might also be factions but I don't think so. The gesserit, tleilaxu, ixians, guild etc. aren't really factions as much as they are systemic elements of the setting. They don't necessarily fight for land themselves, but politic and manipulate the houses who do. The guild for example had a deal with the fremen for surreptitious spice access; they didn't need to take territory and have a military prescence on arrakis because they had both the imperial court covering their ass AND their own backdoor deals with the main factional group in control of arrakis. (though not in this universe depiction - the fremen are all/mostly dead, so the guild is a more of a bitch to the emperor and less independent)

You could maybe think of these groups like single city states in medieval europe. They're powerful but not because of standing armies and they would get their shit pushed in if they tried to play war directly.

>>528534165
Dune has actually made me miss Conan more. Dune is a lot more rough around the edges right now.

Anyone got a cool looking base pics? I need some inspiration.

>>528535075
here's an old work in progress of mine

I don't consider it particularly good, it's the 2nd base I've made so far

>>528528820
Unfortunate. I was going to join once I hit the deep desert.

>>528534884
I read somewhere the stated goals of the 3rd faction will be to stalemate harkonn amd atraides, not beat them in open combat. My guess is for Tielaxu because face-dancers would be appropriate for subterfuge.

Any word on when they’re implementing the changes?

>>528535463
well, it depends on whether some people can manage to talk out their... issues.

>>528535387
I am unreasonably bothered by the difference in the angle of the two slopes

>>528536368
I already know one of the ultimates.
Face-Dance: Take on the appearance of one of your enemies, allowing you to walk among them without arousing suspicion.
Duration: 7 seconds
Cooldown: 3 minutes

This game needs bigger boobs

wait, so all of deep desert gets wiped each week? so do people just dismantle their entire base and transport everything they have there piece by piece to Higgs every week? seems like a pain in the ass tbqh

Anyone playing on Thule and need Harkkonen guy in their clan?

>>528515796
I havent been eaten by a worm since the first time I let it happen during the tutorial, fully naked and with an empty inventory. It's just stupid, frankly.

>>528537497
The vision of the deep desert is temporary bases for clans. This might be to eliminate the old issue where guilds would make super mega bases over weeks that became almost unassailable in pvp. Ark had this particularly badly.

>>528537325
The implementation will be poor, of course. You won't actually take on the appearance of an NPC, you'll just have a generic shadowy aura around you. Enemies will still react to your presence with combat barks and point their guns at you, but won't fire or move closer.

>>528515796
>not collecting too much spice at once
So how many piles should you shoot at once?

>>528517484
Conan is basically only alive thanks to the coomers. I bet it chafes Funcoms ass something fierce. I bet that's the real reason they stomped down on modding.

>>528537460
the fact they cap out at B cup is criminal

everyone has flat asses too

this game is made by eunuchs like way too many modern studios, just a den of castrated servile "men" with ugly gf's/wives if they have any at all

favourite spots for end game bases?

>>528538031
No. It's more likely that they were given IP restrictions. This is from same series of movies that turned chani from a subservient fanatic into a girlboss. And if they include her in game there is no way they are gonna get away with naked zendaya mods.

is the dd queue still broken?

>>528538587
near aluminium mountain, or that water plant spot and be server good-guy by not blocking access to it by building above. or below north wall.

When is the worldwide storm going to end? I was just about to move my shit to the next base but now am afraid to do so

>have autism or ocd, or something wrong
>have finished every other quest in the game
>"deliver this mk6 buggy drill, we will give u 10k :DD and the mercenary gimpsuit cosmetic that looks terrible!"
idk anymore

>>528540795
>cosmetic
worth every price

You can use solos to farm your spice for you <3
i only take 25% best protection you'll ever get

>>528540795
did you actually hand in the mk6 hand cutter? did it give the gigalaser, or is that some other quest?

>>528535075
I spent the whole day just adding that new round tower, I'm gonna keep adding shit to this clusterfuck until it looks decent and more imposing, also see >>528514520, my neighbour is a crazy cunt

>>528541525
The only thing about bases like this is they are so impractical to live in.

>>528541217
look at my workforce and despair.

>>528541525
that's awesome, though I feel like the towers need some more texture. Maybe break them up with a different wall style every few levels?
btw where did you build it?

spice is worm shit btw

>they're giving the crybabies over on reddit a bone by letting them farm t6 mats
I, for one, welcome the upcoming price drop on Plastanium.

pveiggers filled this mans hands with shit, killed his creative dream, he bows, broken before pveiggers looting his soul

>>528541887
on the arguably best spot on the entire map weeks before reddit figured it out, and yeah I shouldve used wall 2 instead of -wall- for the entire thing, fuck replacing it now

when are they letting solos shoot the buggy turret without a passenger

>>528541227
haven't done it
haven't even got an mk6 cutter and i'd want to use it
https://dune.gaming.tools/contracts/ct_survival1_maaskharet3_01
it rewards a lasgun at the end, so just a weapon

>>528542276
>fuck replacing it now
the game really needs an option to just insantly replace a certain building block with another of the same shape. So that you may change a wall into a wall 2 or a tilted roof into another tilted roof without having to demolish anything.

>>528542374
just switch between the seats
though it could really use a shortcut. I don't know why do so many actions in this game require you to hold a button, massive pain in the ass.

>>528542263
His dream will never die. He just learned to appease the retarded sheep you have to let them mine the highest tier resources. I wonder what pve players will complain about next.

>>528542374
they're adding hotswap keybinds like planetside 2

>>528542263
until there are anti air guns on buggies or tanks, there is no pvp
i've never once been fought on the ground
what "pvp" is, is not even what the devs wanted

>>528542481
just wait until they add paint schemes and you need to repaint your whole base because they sure as fuck won't apply it universally to the entire thing at once

>>528542835
>until there are anti air guns on buggies or tanks, there is no pvp
There also needs to be way less open sand. Or removal of the worm. The way we have it now the DD is 90% water and we have no boats.

>>528542662
>>528542835
shit cant come soon enough, kinda hoping they introduce a toolbelt or a second bar specifically for tools or something the amount of shit to swap in and out of your bar is tedious

how tf do you grab walls once you use an active suspensor
they both use space bar ffs

>>528543398
Don't spacebar but >w into the wall.

>>528495369 (OP)
I heard they cucked out on the pvp is that true?

>>528543554
So just w again when making contact? Alright. Still they could have pair it with climb off from left ctrl

is the end game at all viable if I just want to stay a solo player with no guild?

>>528543770
not really, there's going to be cuckshed zones to let pve players gather in peace but the big rewards are still out in the pvp areas

>>528544023
so no real difference?

>>528543770
They're about to put a small section in DD pve only so they can access t6 mats but they are still gonna leave the rest of DD pvp where the better loot is. A great compromise so appease every bitching faggots. Griefers are mad and thats based.

>>528543990
you will be able to get pvp viable gear as a solo and be able to build all the things in the game without being gaped endlessly

but afterwards you will not have much to do with that gear, probably

>>528543990
You will be at a great disadvantage, but that shouldn't surprise you

how does stability even work

>>528544504
It exists solely to piss you off. Seriously, it seems so fucking retarded at times

>>528543990
I'm solo and bully groups of 2-4 easily, trick is to surprise them with rockets while they are gathering spice, or camp the DD shipwrecks and ambush them while theyre looting, gonna try out the missile launcher too after the reset, I have over 2k hours of invasions in ds1 and 2, just git gut

>>528544504
i keep placing stuff underground till it doesn't let me build, if possible. sometimes the ground anchor is deep down. if that doesn't work i line up foundations and pillar up the other end if i need to let people pass under.

>>528544856
they're gutting all the rat shit people "abused", according to them, including vehicle storage tool.

>>528543810
Yes, release space and hold w when making contact.

>>528507504
Keep it, I love seeing stuff like that on servers.

>>528544856
>the trick is to engage in a way that gives you an insurmountable advantage
>git gud
Go fuck yourself.

>>528545921
LOL

real niggas latch onto the back of carriers with a lasgun and leave them without wings

>>528544856
You are ambushing pve players who don't even want to fight from the sound of it.

>>528546234
i dunno they had 2000 rockets on them and fired a lot more, i think they were fighters

>worm alarm goes red
>go to jump in vehicle
>press E
>nothing happens
>spam E
>nothing
>die to worm
10/10 best game

>>528545327
sounds like they might be gutting the spice death farming method

>>528546501
uh oh poopy wormsign

>>528546501
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c2Pm095pk8c

>>528546584
I'm 100% convinced they're just timer based

been stuck on this loading screen forever

>>528545327
I honestly hope they do get rid of the pokeball

It's convenient but it's TOO convenient
trivializes so much about vehicle ownership and they need to nip it fast before players get too accustomed to having it

>>528547557
i hope they bring back vehicle collision damage because falling off the cliff feels like such clown shit and people that fly bad should die

can you use the pokeball to save your bike from sandworms?

>>528547747
yes

>>528548216
really wish I just did that

>>528541525
>>528535075
>>528542276
been building a new outpost there too since someone posted it the other day
i love all the greeble in the atreides' building set

>>528547740
God I hope not for the collision damage. I think only your bike should be pocketable

>>528547740
I get it, no fall damage for vehicles is dumb as hell. It still makes me smile everytime I do it. Honestly hope they DONT fix this.

double checking if assault ornithopter can have 2 storage modules

Funcom just abandoned their entire vision for the Deep Desert because of some crybabies in the first week of launch. What is even the point of the DD if you can get all T6 resources in PvE areas? It's just an extension of Hagga Basin and now there's no reason to go into the PvP area. Funcom caving on this does not bode well for the future of the game.

>>528549162
>NOOOOO WHY CAN'T I FUCKING GANK SOLO PLAYERS WITH MY 30 NIGGER SQUAD???
Cry some more retard.

>>528549162
the pvp doesn't work at all though

>>528549162
>ching ching chong
i'm convinced the only people mad are chinks that were trying to sell plastanium for real currency
anyway, back to tarkov and dark and darker with you nigger

>>528549162
>no reason to go into the PvP area
Bro, all the unique blueprints? You can't mine rocks to get those. PvE players will still be stuck with T5 blueprints if they want to stay in relative safety, they have to go to pvp places if they want T6. Stop whining like a cringe lord.

>>528549325
But I am a solo player. I'm just not a nigger with high time preference who understands that my immediate desires are not necessarily good in the long term.

>>528549418
You think they won't pitch a fit about this too? Eventually all the blueprints will have a chance to spawn in the PvE area, if this reaction is any indication of Funcom's spine.

>>528549418
This is actually a great way to introduce PvE players to a PvP environment that isn't just orni rocket spam.

>>528547557
>trivializes so much about vehicle ownership
Survival pvp game design logic. Same reason on the planet dune we can carry around a decaliterjon that contains two years of water and the worm is just a timer rather than a real danger.

>>528549418
>unique blueprints
the best melee weapons in the game are crafted. there are no unique t6 melee weapons, retard

>>528551128
which ones are the best

>>528549162
Yep. Terrible judgment shown by FC here. 90% of the game was already PvE. You don't need T6 at all if you truly don't want to engage in PvP. The gank squads were also greatly exaggerated. The DD is massive and if you're not a retard it's not hard to rat, especially after these scout orni changes go through. Oh well, another game likely ruined by spineless devs catering to whiners who are just going to quit in a month anyway.

>>528551128
if t6 melee weapon is the only one of its kind, is it not unique? have at thee, double retard FAGGOT!

>>528549418
>go in a DD lab, beat the waves with friends or find one that's already cleared
>log out at the big chest
>log in every 40 minutes to claim the chest
turn 360 degrees and walk out when you are full
nothing personal kid

>>528551837
I genuinely don't see an issue with this, assuming it even works. If you want to go out of your way to not play the game, and just relog every hour or so, all power to you. I'd rather actually have fun, but you do you.

>>528551642
I don't think this is bad exactly. But I'm getting a horrible introduction to a group I will now refer to as the fanatical pve'er.
It really is that meme comic of a guy showing up and telling you he doesn't like what you are doing and you should do it a different way.

>>528551642
>The gank squads were also greatly exaggerated
i thought they were until an entire night was unplayable due to neurodivergent, bored chimpanzees made it inaccessible to virtually everyone. then they were complaining, saying they were bored

>The DD is massive and if you're not a retard it's not hard to rat
you can only enter and exit south, meaning you will be B and C, particularly the rock formations. you are either landing on those, or crossing there anyway.

>>528551642
>cohhcarnage makes a video complaining about DD PvP
>a day later Funcom changes the DD to make him happy
This is exactly what happened with New World. They removed more and more PvP and complex mechanics to make streamers happy and it killed their game. Fuck this man I wish I could refund at this point. It's only going to get worse.

>>528553126
New World was going to die regardless of what they did. I say that as someone who was an alpha tester.

>>528552913
>you can only enter and exit south,
Yeah, I think a better system would have been to enter from a random direction and have the important stuff in the center. It would have been battle royale logic and way harder for gank squads.
Unfortunately as >>528553126 says funcom listens to reddit and streamers, not a /vg/ thread.

>>528553126
>This is exactly what happened with New World.
oh that dogshit that was in the crammed mmorpg niche with WoW and XIV, the bethesda titles, and black desert, phantasy star, failed because a streamer bitched and they adjusted something in it?

>>528553472
wait also runescape, guild wars 2

>>528553472
>adjusted something
they changed the entire game because of streamers bitching

>>528553653
wouldn't know but i could think of a lot of better reasons for its lack of success rather than the casualization of it, outside of anything pvp or pve related at all lmao

>>528553806
>I don't know anything about this game
>here let me tell you why it failed
retard. go farm your T6 until you get bored and quit

Okay...

>>528554798
Try visiting another sietch if you don't want to wait. I've never tested this method myself but I've read that it works.

>>528554798
>instanced area
>only one person at a time
Why is Funcom so retarded? I thought Scandinavians were supposed to have high IQ?

>>528554952
I'm not sure how switching between sub-servers works but I'll probably spawn in the tier 1 location and will have to go all the way on foot.

>>528554798
>>528554952
I'd advise against the sietch switching unless you have a thopter in your backpack since switching the sietch puts you at the southernmost tradepost.
Waiting should take something like 20 or so minutes if someone takes their time, 10 if they are really fast, 30 if they are lost.

>>528554310
>a failure so telegraphed that playing at all was an IQ test
>'it had something to do with the finer points of the content of the game and not its 20 decades old established competitors in a genre that encourages establishing yourself in 1 and staying'
what is it like being the kind of actual homunculus that fell for the new world meme?

>>528555045
Probably a spaghetti code issue since in this instance you can actually gather loot or some silly thing like that.

>>528555238
Out of some sense of idiot stubbornness you just keep proving how fucking retarded you are by continuing to reply to me about this. Again, they didn't just make some minor gameplay changes. They changed the game from a massively multiplayer PvP survival game to a theme park MMO at the last minute because streamers cried about PvP. Then after they did this, they further removed PvP and dumbed the game down even more specifically to placate streamers. They pissed off BOTH PvPers and PvEers and were left with the biggest drop off in players in MMO history just because they wanted to court streamers.

can ur buggy do this

>>528555686
>they didn't just make some minor gameplay changes
you're trying to explain the point of failure as being something it isn't so i thought i'd point it out to you, cheers

>>528555849
No collision damage is so fucking stupid.

>PvP "chads"
>Look inside
>Faggots that just fly around in thopters shooting rockets in groups at people
If you were a real PvP chad you'd be on foot, bitch.

>Waaaahhhh it wasn't FOR YOU!
So I, the PvE GOD, was supposed to wait 4 months for the first PvE content drop before buying the game?

>>528556054
>responding to the retard spammer

Anyway this is a dune thread, not new world. Nobody cares about that trash game. Post some base designs or webms.

>>528556054
Except that's exactly what caused the game to fail. The only reason it had the success it did is because it did and still does have the most fun MMO combat even after it was dumbed down.

>>528554798
I feel so lucky nobody was in there when I did it.

>>528556320
I only brought up New World as an example of what happens when devs listen to streamers to the detriment of their game. Faggot.

>>528534884
>Tleilaxu will be a future skill tree like gesserit, swordmaster, etc. I think. Maybe ixians will be another skill tree as well.
The Suk school will be a skill tree before those, I'd bet money on it

>>528546501
You aren't using dindu sprint?

Am I expected to be able to organically find the class trainers?

>>528558816
I'm not sure what that is
I could've survived by pinging myself up into the air with the grapple and using my suspensor belt because I was looting a crashed ship but I panicked because I've already died looting those ships before

>>528524631
>dupe
They just steal YOUR shit because apparently battleeye is a complete joke and Funcom doesn't know how to run a db properly.

>>528559435
Unlock bene gesserit tree, pick the first ability on the left tree
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rMfgfnhHmuU

>>528549025
>MAH'DI ACKBAR!

>>528555045
It isn't instanced. If you're up top of the shield wall above it, the dialogue plays while someone is doing it. I get it all the time when I'm out doing my garbage collection rounds(corpses and alu).

>>528558904
For the most part, yes but that doesn't mean you'll actually find them when you want to. They are pretty spread out, but in mostly obvious locations. Planetologist in particular is very easily missed if you don't stick to the "intended" path and explore organically like most players tend to do. The rest are in trade posts, towns (check the bars), and outposts.

If you want to find a specific trainer, ask here or just google it. Some of them are fairly far into the game but can fairly easily be rushed to with a bike.

cool place

I know it is possible to get both faction building styles, but is it possible to build something that looks good by mixing them?

>>528561119
Too different apart. CHOAM facility and Harkonnen sets mix and match fantastically if you're into two tone.

I made a launch ramp at the cliff base, im very tempted to stake outwards to block this dude below me from expanding upwards

>>528561337
Neat.

>>528561337
How are you getting the buggy back?

>>528547740
nah, I've already had the game crash while I was flying, if it also meant my copter falls down and gets destroyed it would be way too annoying

>>528542276
It's great, but yeah, it's pretty much full already, I don't want to live right next to several other people.
>>528548864
Awesome, I love it. Especially the layered rooftops. I might steal some of the design elements from here.

atreides say harkonnen is GAY, but actually...ATREIDES IS GAY

How do you guys design your bases? I mean the thought process behind the various rooms and attatchments.
For example: You enter into a large hall, from there you've got rooms to the left and right with basic resource storage, maybe a passage to a garage with your vehicles, too. Then from the main hall stairs leading up to a large fabricator room, a water tank room, maybe a seperate private quarters with a bed and so on.

>>528563593
oh yeah? well harkonnen is BALD

>>528563680
I expand organically but I made sure to cordon of generators because I have too many and death stills because they scare me.

Are stillsuits the dumbest item in the game? You never need the water.

>>528565364
they look cool as fuck though

Just bought the atreides building set along with their lights. I cannot find the floor/roof tile with built in lighting, like observer has. Am I totally blind or is it another thing I need to buy at arakeen?

>>528562741
I drive it through the back, I might extend backwards to build out a garage though

>>528563680
It started as a box but I've renovated it multiple times. I think later when I've got T5 vehicles set up I'll move further north and build a nice beefy faction set base, but I'm happy sitting under The Hammer for now.

>>528560945
>>528548864
>>528541525
>>528535387
>>528518674
you niggas living in those gigantic moloch bases ALONE?

>>528549162
Before
>just don't go to the deep desert, nobody forces you to get T6
>PvP is totally optional, just don't engage with it
After
>reeeee why are they able to get T6 without being fodder for PvP niggers
>reeeee why is Funcom killing PvP
Really showing your cards here. If the PvP only works if you force fodder players into it, it shouldn't exist. Just be happy you can have your sweatfest PvP without the filthy casuals that you told to stay away from T6 if PvP was too scary before, eh?

>>528549162
>What is even the point of the DD if you can get all T6 resources in PvE areas?

is this nigger mocking me? I was in the open, it just looked at me and left

>>528568765
Shai-Hulud took one look at how thick that ass is and went "nope."

>>528566949
if there's no t6 unique in the new pve parts of the dd, then it's honestly fine.

>>528549114
1, but its larger

>>528569771
There shouldn't be. As I understand it all dungeons and wrecks will remain as War of Assassins areas.

>I can build a carrier just for collecting and decorating without dealing with PvP
All I ever wanted, neat

>>528569892
For now!

>>528570098
>>528569892
Who gives a shit? If people want to PvP they will go into the PvP area.

why can't I leave

>>528570505
servers are fucky right now, took me an annoying amount of time to load into Hagga Basin from the world map a minute ago. Coriolis hits in 24 minutes so hopefully the problem will be fixed after it ends

How long is server down time

>>528570505
>got kicked off in the middle of sentinel city and server never came back
I went to sleep, never had a game with such unpredictable down time

>>528570842
short if there's no patch, could take upward of a couple hours if they're patching game files

>>528570505
pvpers are ddosing the servers because they're mad

>Mining in Eastern Shield Wall
>Sand Storm approaching
>Take shelter at Atreides platform at Helius Gate
>Know for certain I've stopped my buggy
>Sudden jank ass rubberband pushes it forward after I had come to fully stop
>Clip into vehicle bay overhang.
>Can't back out or move
>Can't disassemble buggy because non-combat zone
>Basically hop on chat and beg for others to come ram my buggy until it's jarred loose
>Even then, takes 2 other buggies 6 tries to unstuck mine
Thanks Funcom

Atreides swatch on Harkonnen variant is really nice desu

>>528571027
The rubberbanding is wild, I nearly lost my buggy on my first drive because I leaped forward and nearly into quicksand

goddamnit I need to get my shit out of the DD
let me ZOOONE

According to my Pre-Butlerian Jihad tech the third faction will either be House Corrino, Bene Gesserit or CHOAM.

>>528572213
It'll probably be smugglers. House Corrino calls the shots Imperium-wide and the Bene Gesserit isn't fond of picking sides.

>>528572213
Its more boring than that, its Smugglers

>>528572213
it's gonna be the fremen

>>528566949
this pretty much. I think Funcom is unlocking T6 for PVE by allowing access to stravidium and titanium, but thats it. It will still be annoying to get spice (which Joel intimated), but it allows PVE to get base T6 in the DD, which is a barrier to participating in DD PVP.

>>528570410
Survival games don't really work if you segregate everyone who isn't a sociopath to pve servers where they don't need to engage with retarded psycopath children.
It means the DD will just become even more of a kos fest. That's not really the elusive spirit of survival pvp.

>>528549162
F76 completely changed their vision and mechanics of their BR into F4 online and probably make more than Funcom from subscirptions and cosmetic dlc.
Nobody wants to be farmed for tiktok content.

>>528572683
What a dumb take. It was already a shitty KoS mess.

>>528549162
you dont get to make money of the game you want, you make money of the game the customer wants. Many devs have learned that lesson, especially recently, but many more still do.

>>528573239
And now it will never be more.

the only people who are pissed off at this are gankers that want to obliterate players that have no desire to fight. All these changes do is make the PVP areas more hotly contested, which is where the gankers melt.

I like my shack. Big grey colored bases feel too big and impersonal.

>Starting soon, some areas of the Deep Desert will now be flagged as “Partial Warfare (PvE)” areas where players will be able to explore testing stations
but what if there's T6 uniques in there?

farming mats in the DD is going to be so fucking boring now. The threat of being ganked at least made it a bit intense

i built my base in the Gaps between two rocks formations and blocked the gap off. i am bad at base design, should i have done this? i could make a gate beneath the base to ramp over the rocks. but i dont know if i have the STYLE to pull that off well.

>>528574812
so come back when they add more shit to it

>>528575021
>so stop playing the game
probably will

>>528574812
so farm in the pvp area instead, the pve titatium nodes will be spawn camped by shitters making their whole base out there on the weekly now

>>528574824
Redditors see it as a dick move to block off paths and resources.

>>528507504
Try doing something like this. Looks great while allowing access beyond. Really just depends on the terrain you're working with however.

>>528574450
I'm pissed because:
>this means the pvp areas are now both less populated and more heavily pvp
>giving up so early means pve stuff will probably get even more focus
>they didn't even try alternatives like faction pvp or other ways to get t6 from landsraad points
It also means whatever the point of the auction house was ever going to be just went up in flames.

>>528507504
>>528575530
Is that Harkonnen building sets? I'm poor and retarded and can't afford those right now.

>>528575530
>see it as a dick move to block off paths and resources.
Some of them think it's a dick move to block off anything to the point I'm not sure where they think it's okay to build.

>>528574824
Depends on what you blocked off. People get pissy if you blocked off pathways and the alternative pathways are further away. Its possible to grief you with buggys and sub fiefs and people do it often enough.

The best way to design anything is to copy others. People post shapes/bases in these threads you can copy (and on reddit) you can also google up neo-brutalism, it typically uses blocky formations which aligns with this games building system.

>>528575870
maybe im not cut out for this type of base, then; id like to relocate but i dont know where's a decent place for building beyond what everybody says: near the shield wall cliff face

>>528576424

>>528576721
>chose to live near pallas
>too lazy to move
You haven't lived until you took your no booster buggy over that gap to get aluminum.

are there any unique cutterays i should keep an eye out for after Sims' or should i just move onto MK2

so i dont trust stats because some of them seem like they'd be higher=better but they arent, so are these engines MORE or LESS fuel efficient? this reads that they are LESS fuel efficient

>>528572798
F76 was never a PvP game

>>528575667
>they didn't even try alternatives like faction pvp or other ways to get t6 from landsraad points
They didn't even wait to see if the bitching lessened after the rocket scout nerf. Kneejerk reactions from devs are always a bad sign.

>>528576941
move onto mk2,i dont think theres another unique cutteray until after the vermilius

Maybe they shouldn't have let you use flying fucking vehicles in the pvp zone?????????

>>528579198
It's all ogre now.

so can i have a buggy with a storage attachment and a cutteray? i dont know how it works and im working my way into my steel

>>528580401
you need the storage attachment to use the cutterray, also the utility rear

So I just saw my first bubbling spice blowout, is it possible to harvest while its like that? Or is just pointless because the explosion is random?

>>528581593
you can't harvest the purple goo. only after it explodes. pretty sure it would kill you if you're close enough

>15k per stake
jesus christ poorbros what are we gonna do

Behold /dune/! The Great Atreides Reverse Pyramid

Will buying social gear unlock as transmog or is it just a waste of dune bucks?

>not a sandstorm but windy
comfy

>>528581978
Ah, so its better to just sit and wait then go down after the explosion

>>528582585
Mogs are only unlocked via quests in my experience, but many are not unlockable at all. The armor types are social, light, heavy and stillsuit.

>>528582651
> not wanting to get Kynes'd

>>528582085
erm im rich

>>528582525

>>528582085
Running missions with your first thopter you'll suddenly go back to base and be like jesus when did I reach 200k saved

>>528583042
what happens when i run out of missions

>>528583030
yeah maybe wait for better weather

>>528583228
Have to grind something and sell it, currently people are doing radiation suits as they go for 7k each

>>528582585
how does social even work? its not like I change into different clothes in the city or my base

>>528583410
You keep it on you and change into it when you want to be social.

Yeah its dumb, social should be equipped automatically when you are at your base, someone elses base or in any social hub

>>528583263
Yea. Coriolis storms make for shitty screenshots at night in particular

>>528582085
Blessed be His name

>>528583228
You wait for more to be added, unfortunately. Funcom decided to go full retard for the games release and not have any repeatable contracts. Even fucking skyrim had a radiant quest system way back when, shitty as it was.

In the meantime there are other ways to get solaris. The good cosmic loot chests can have several thousand outright and many of them are super quick to run to. Crafting and selling stuff, on the exchange or just to npc's.

Is there a website with every cosmetic set or something I am tired of googling each one when I come across it

>>528583740
cosmic loot?

>>528583938
The big chests with cosmic iconography as a hologram above them, they're the games best chests

>>528583938
The big chests with holographic stars above it. I don't know what they are actually called, cosmic just sounds cool.

Should I wait before getting this game because it feels like its having some post launch growing pains?

>>528584108
Dont ask me ive got 100 hours and cant stop playing

>>528584228
i've got 200 hours and can't stop playing

>>528584108
Rather than growing pains, I'd say its more of a finding its own identity as a live service game sort of thing. The big pvp vs pve debate of late is part of this.

Echoing the above anons, I'm already over 100hrs of playtime and see myself playing for at least another week or two, maybe more. The game is FAR from perfect but it scratches the itch I need right now with just the right amount of grind, immersion, and sandbox building. Plus, I just really like Dune.

>>528584689
The first growing pain was removing so much pvp. The second will be pve players complaining there is nothing to do. The third will be when tanks and base defenses are added and only useful for pvp. The fourth will be when another ragefest starts about funcom favoring pvp players while pve hasn't gotten an update since repeatable contracts and a tiny bit of the deep desert.

Don't forget which foundations are for aesthetics and which are load bearing. Whoops

>>528585437
Cry more

>>528586093
Enjoy your worm on a timer.

>>528586178
Cry more

>>528585437
Nostradamus?

>This ugly ass minmax shitboxes by the border of the map
Disgusting behavior this zone needs a worm

>>528586621
Bil-la Kaifa.

>>528565781
>T5 vehicles set up
I moved up north after my first buggy haul of iron/carbon, lol. Fuck sitting down there in box county.

>>528586621
half of my server is there as well

>>528586621
The average Dune base looks way more aesthetic than the typical survival game ime. Shame the game is gonna go to shit.

>>528583617
>>528583030
>>528582525
I placed a giant 3 tier maze inside the reverse pyramid with my Spice Melange storage in the top center section

>>528563680
Made a shape first and left it with hollow interior to fill in.
but honestly I should've done the opposite, work from what I wanna do and then building around that

>>528566186
um aktshully I'm playing with my bf thx

>>528566186
The giant Atreides one is actually my Guild Base

>My face when I remember I have to share this planet with hark "men"

>>528585437
PVP wasn't removed dingus, all they did was open PVP areas up to PVE players and ditch the gatekeeping on PVP gear so people coming into fights fresh off the boat aren't severely disadvantaged for not being first.

Literally the only people who could possibly have a problem with this change are retarded gankers who only fight 30 vs 1 and T6 vs T5 (or worse) making fights as one-sided for themselves as possible and pretending like this is actually fun for anyone involved.

Your style of "pvp" is fucking stupid and I'm glad they're not catering to dipshits like you. The game is better off with more curated PVP mechanics instead of FFA gankfests.

>>528556069
I feel into the rift on a bike and was like oh fuck. then nothing bad happened

are the disruptor and drillshot the only anti shield weapons

>>528592282
i just like their gear, sorry, not sorry.

>>528594221
>hes allergic to right angles

>>528594047
Anything can be an anti-shield weapon if you shoot enough

any updated DD maps yet? all I can find is large spice blows been guarded by swarms of rocket thopters

>>528594356
I'll be honest, I can't tell the difference between atredies and default skins.

for rp reasons i like going into the techlabs with all the overgrown plants and pretending im meditating among the greenery

>>528594356
no, the atreides are actually more how i usually fashion stuff, but i wanted to move away from that for the first time.

>>528594586
Thats fair, the differences between base and atreides is smaller than base and hark. I think partly its because you get fuck all swatches for most of your game time so its harder to make them stand out. The basic green they used is so dark it hides the detail.

murdered someone on a ship and i feel kinda bad about it

>>528596342
Did you loot him? If not he probably went and got his backpack back

>>528597063
of course i did

Holy shit bros had 1 minute left before Coriolis would wipe the shit. Went with assaulter last time to get all spice been there twice with scout earlier and said fuck it I'm gonna go to F tile one last time with assaulter and I fucking did it. Finally can get that medium spice refiner.
It took me around 7-8 minutes with booster MK5 engine from F-8 all the way out

>>528594356
i'm kinda jealous of all the right angles as a pyramid enjoyer. i know you can buy the base parts cross-faction but can you also buy the vehicle skins/variants?

what's going on with the world map? queue of 161 on my totally dead low pop server. afraid to leave the basin now incase i can't get back

uh oh, someone forgot to pay their energy bill. right before the storm too.

>>528521415
Their best games are original IPs though.

>>528599405
I am actually preferring paying 2500 solaris for the few trips I need to make to the shitty "social" hubs rather than going through 16 fucking loading screens and a goddamn minigame for 10 minutes both ways

dropping this game since the devs are just going to cave on whatever else reddit and streamers cry about until it's just a silly casualized mess (moreso than it already is)

>>528599558
go in and steal their stuff

>>528600112
don't let the door hit you on the pussy on the way out

>>528599897
i can't say i haven't been tempted. with the world map bugged out right now it's the only way to move currently lol.

>>528601151
Don't pretend that you won't be joining him in a week once you've farmed your free T6 and have nothing else to do.

Why is my Hunting Skorda questline still here when Skorda is right in front of me dying on the ground, is this a bug?

>>528601345
i already have nothing else to do and t6 was always free.

>>528594463
in NA, not for another 5 and a half hours, for EU 30 minutes or so

https://www.planetologist.app/

>>528601946
I thought the chinese would've mapped out the entire thing 10 hours ago

>>528602076
they did, check the app amd select asia under the regional event timer

>>528602371
huh, it still shows the old outdated one even when I switch regions

banners are unreasonably finnicky to hang on walls. you need a 2x1 perfectly flat surface. why does the actual cloth portion of the banner need support?

>can only apply color swatches to the hull portion of vehicles
well that was a waste of 70,000 solaris.

>>528602893
there's no actual cloth physics and the dev team is kind of incompetent

they probably have a shitload of dead weight (eunuchs/incels/women) on their dev team with a core group of like 30 guys who actually do all the work and common sense shit like that just gets overlooked/not bothered with because its such a pain in the ass to go through the processes that the incompetent retards demand on everything.

For the incompetent retards, the process IS the purpose. They come into work and think "If I don't have any meetings today then I won't have got anything done and the day will have been wasted"

whereas people who actually DO SHIT want to stay as far away from a stupid fucking meeting as its possible to get

>>528603225
Someone cant get laid lmao

>>528603139
Not even remotely true

>>528603583
He knows. That's why he deleted the post, autismo.

>>528603629
>Pretending to be someone else
Retardo

>>528603661
Anything else or are you done being a stupid faggot?

>>528603783
yeah, I can edit out my unwanted (You) too

>>528603783
Absolutely cringe, take the L and move on samefag

>>528604168
lol what a freak. it was my post and i did delete it because it was a visual bug on my end that updated after a relog. maybe you edit images to win completely inconsequential arguments on the internet but people that have sex don't.

>>528604168
>>528604258
Look at this faggot samefagging now lmao

>>528604450
>>528604390
Your butthurt is hilarious samefag

is there any secret to figuring out which small spice fields are fake or not. just hit 3 fake ones in a row wtf

is there a curved pentashield in the game?

>>528604889
Nope

>>528604979
unfortunately not. the closest you can get is using the triangular floor pieces to create the illusion of a curve using pentashields on each face.

>>528574450
You cracked the code. It's always without fail gankfags. They always hate anything that makes it less asymmetrical 'ambush someone with no chance of surviving'. It really is just wanting fodder players rather than actual combat.

I had no idea you could actually craft a whole bunch of components

>hand in tainted spice
>a near silent cutscene plays and no one says anything and Duke fists some paper then you go
Well that was anti-climatic as fuck.

>>528605225
kek i thought the same thing. the total lack of dialogue made it so awkward. it's the same thing for the harkonnen side. the only difference is that there's a corpse on the floor.

Dune is similar to games like NMS. When you start its quite interesting but then once you figure out the mechanics and have explored/built what you were looking for, the interest fades away because all its left is the grind. From there on gameplay always feels the same.

>>528605291
>the only difference is that there's a corpse on the floor.
Must have been the guy who was responsible for the ending of the story jesus what is this

>>528605328
that's survival games in a nutshell. not much else to do after you've conquered the environment and built your digital home.

>>528605328
Im having fun

>>528605078
dang gotcha and yeah this is close enough

Vehicles don't take damage from radiation, right?

>>528605382
lmao okay ill admit that does look worse. the room being so huge and with so few alternating textures makes it look unfinished. i dont have any good screenshots but the harkonnen one is darker and moodier and feels more cramped.

>>528605575
>Camera just pans up slowly at a flag
>End scene

>>528605225
I think it's supposed to be all dramatic, but they totally flubbed it with the sound design. The music should have increased a little in volume and had a dramatic swell.

>>528605573
nope you're fine even driving them directly into the green soup.

>>528605685
the flag pan thing happens the same way

>>528605225
>>528605685
The worst part is, they say something like "it's time to meet the Duke", which meant I was expecting to MEET the Duke, not just have him act like a bored bureaucrat rubberstamping your employment contract.

>>528605874
Yeah it felt pointless and underdeveloped

Where is the landsraad vendor? Im in my city and we won but there is no icon for them

>>528606316
Fucking idiot I found them

>>528605874
at least you got to actually have the duke be bored in your presence. we have to settle for rabahn and the baron is MIA.

>>528606430
>baron is MIA.
Hes probably getting banged by twinks

>>528606494
more like funcom didn't want to make a custom fat model when they could just use the player character rig to shit out rabahn.

>>528606619
That too, I wish devs put in more effort for body types

post bases

>>528607091
i dont have a thopter yet for an aerial shot......

>>528607091
I like your cliff base pyramid man

>>528608312
Are your graphics maxed out? How does your game looks that sharp wtf

>>528608398
Yes and also its 2k. Can't post the 4k version because of file sizes. Make sure that resolution scale is at 100 if it isn't.

>>528607091
looks pretty rad, i like it. i'd post my pyramid again but i think ive kinda overdone it in that regard lol.

>>528607091
my box

>>528608973
>>528607091
found a work around: it's not my base but it's a sort of guild village springing up along the top shelf of the rift on my server

>>528608503
Damn I should probably check my settings then, I was wondering why my game looked kinda mushy

>>528609893
another angle:

Kinda hoping they add an option to have the fief claim area not clip into the ground, I didn't realize how much vertical height you're missing with how it is right now

>>528608312
cheers!

ive tried to make it glow with lights, but they dont spawn in unless you are super close

>>528610271
Looks good anon, gonna steal it, my own cliff pyramid is looking lackluster

>15 Agave seeds per banner
Fuck me what a grind. Thank god for the thoper scanner this would drive me insane otherwise.

>>528605142
I recently learned that vehicle repairs are server-side but wire consumption is client-side. It's far more efficient to simply tap repair vehicle components rather than holding the button down.

Is there some sandbox mode or at least a base planner website where I can quickly test some designs out?
Also is there a way to increase your max amount of lights in the base? It's a massive pain in the ass that you can't really use floor lighting and stuff like that, because if you don't go all in on those floating lights then you're just gonna live in darkness.

>>528611179
>need agave seeds to make overhead ceiling lights
what the actual fuck

>>528611619
Its also such a boring zone. Where is the wandering enemies or random events, bloody anything.

>>528611179
they are annoyingly sparse
honestly I'm not sure why are they even a thing, it's not like they're "hard" to get, either

>>528611571
pretty certain your limit goes up by expanding your fief size

>>528611857
Maybe its because the zone has nothing else, they just tagged some building items randomly

>>528611940
>fell for the fief size meme
>now have to log in and spend ~30k solari in taxes every week
>EVERY
>WEEK

>there is no passive form of income and no repeatable bounty quests
i feel like i've been ensnared in some chinese real estate scheme

>>528612584
yeah i got rid of my 18k a week base. even though i'm swimming that rent is gonna add up especially when I'm not playing actively like now

>>528612584
30k a week isn't much, come on
just sell some spice or schematics on the market or something
actually, anyone figured out what is the most profitable good to sell to players? maybe vehicle parts would be better than the schematics?

does the top tier gear give heat prot 4? or only stillsuits?

disruptor pistol is fucking KINO

>>528612761
80% of markets are DOA because of small/uninterested server size
there's maybe three things posted in mine and probably two people who even glance at it
"player driven economy" is the deathrattle of a developer that doesn't know how to make an economy himself

>>528613125
can't they just make a unified market across all servers?

>>528612584
Loot runs in the faction bases to the northern most part of the map + labs + camps and just selling everything you get is not bad for money. Sometimes you even snag a few assault thopter parts which saves you a lot of grinding.

But yeah it fucks over smaller groups. Because rewards/chest loot is unique a guild of ten people earn ten times more than a solo.

>>528613242
>>528613125
The idea of a player run market is insane. Either its dead which is actually the best case situation, or its hyper efficient meaning its better to grind and sell shit to NPCs then buy resources from players than actually play the game.

What the hell man this is taking forever

>>528614681
been bugged since yesterday

Make some predictions on the new meta after the scout nerfs

>>528615401
dude with rocket launcher riding atop thopter with booster

>>528616063
sounds kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI

>Found a unique gatling
>It dumps the mag in 2 seconds
Finally I can clear out the 10,000 rounds ive got sitting around

>>528607091
Nice could you show us inside also?
Here is mine first base in deep desert.
I have never used solido before, you can only copy once or is it possible to overwrite it?

if you make a base and add a friend as a coowner, is the tax split somehow or do I have to pay everything?

>>528606430
>>528606619
>Rabahn
Ask me how I know you play FF14

>get disconnected while in the air
>worm taketh all due to no fault of my own
epic game
why do they not have any system in place to prevent this sort of shit?

>>528617958
i dont though, that game looks really gay

>>528618248
It's Rabban.

>>528618025
it's bullshit. if a dc'ed thopter lands on the sand it should be given a way longer time before getting wormed. there's no reason not to do that and it'd solve most peoples problems

>>528618430
okay. apologies to all the geidi prime natives ITT didn't mean to disrespect your culture

Ok, I played Enshrouded for the first time since it came out because Dune was just too fucking annoying with all the dumbass, idiotic design decisions, and holy shit its GOOD. The building system is LEAGUES better than this blocky shit, you can pretty much make anything you want with a bit of work because you can go as small as you want with the blocks, ALL blocks. There's variety in enemy types, not just three dudes with a gun and two dudes with blades, and the graphics are just better, the damned game is gorgeous. You can also make a cosy village of crafting npcs, and even just townsfolk that dont do much other than mill around and use the amenities, because the devs actually know what survival builders are all about, which is cosy and autistic building of your perfect escapist fantasy, NOT PvP against jeets and chinks. Oh and the combat? Its FUN, especially if you ramp it up with extra spawns. You have to be tactical about it, and you can take out big groups relatively easy, but if you do stupid shit, you get rekt. Oh, and there's DIFFUCULTY SETTINGS, GOOD FUCKING LORD. You can make the game as hard or as easy as you goddamned want it to be, grindy or not, your choice. I put up the spawns to the max, and lowered their xp yield, yolo, and having a goddamned blast clearing hordes of mobs with my pimped out mace and sword.

The ONLY niggle I have is the fucking chibi character proportions, just fucking WHY. It would've been the PERFECT survival building game without that infantile bullshit, why not make characters that look like normal adults?

With all that said, see you guys in a year. Maybe by then this fucking game will have some content, if Funcoms fedora tipping autistic retardation hasnt killed it by then

>>528619798
one thing enshrouded doesn't have is soul

>>528620040
What does that even fucking MEAN

>>528611571
>you're just gonna live in darkness.
watch the nudune movies and you will see why; most interiors have very little lighting, so its true to the IP.

the drillshot and burst drillshot seem pointless since enemies can just dodge out of it and it the heavy NPC gunners drop their shield when you're shooting at them anyway
am i missing something or are they just meme guns? i really like the way they sound and reload but it feels like shooting wiffledarts when they actually connect

is there a way to do the gun stagger that npcs do, where they stagger you with gun melee?

>60gb game
>permanently online, your character and contents are forever held hostage to an outsider host
>weekly 'log in or Lose All Your Shit Forever' mechanics
>cannot store, save or put All Your Shit in stasis in the event of not being able to play for a month or longer
>content droughts that will take months to years to properly fill out a relatively engaging longevity process

when did great evils become so casually accepted
this permanent employment design is genuinely malicious bullshit that so many games just unceremoniously strap to the player now

>>528621492
I wouldn't care but the bank is so fucking small for no reason other than to hurt us

>>528621492
>>weekly 'log in or Lose All Your Shit Forever' mechanics
Is that how it works? If you don't pay the tax in time you just get deleted?

>>528621492
babby's first MMO?

>>528621771
No hes retarded. The thing that matters the most is your research tree, having access to those tools means you can just craft whatever you need when you need it. Additionally while you base can get deleted if you ignore it, your inventory can't. If you have an end game cutter on your person, you can get back up and running in no time and it doesn't matter if its a month year or decade.

Who the fuck needs the bank, keep a thopter in your pokeball, a cutter and a repair tool with your armor/weapons. You can get an entire base up ready to shit out end game items in an evening.

What do you guys think of the new changes? PvE areas in the DD? I wonder if it'll make it worthwhile to progress there

>>528624251
It depends on the amount of resources you can get

>>528607091
Spice Melange is a hell of a drug

>>528621492
Anon everything these days is turning to subscription based profiteering from prescription drugs to homes and now even digital pixels with licenses attached to them. People are the value and its open war on the individual. It's up to you not to eat the poison, consume disturbing content and get your income clipped like a coin by subscriptions.
Oh and not work under people several layers deep like a third worlder, you're supposed to work for yourself and own something to hold.

>>528624678
There's even subscriptions for coffee where I'm at. To be fair, its useful until my coffee express arrives, at least

So next they're gonna push to outlaw coffee expresses, I guessess

>>528624748
>Suscription based branded coffee espresso machines
Lets not give any ideas..

>>528624251
they made it sound as they're leaving absolute scraps and tatters in the PVE area, including gating it out of unique recipes
i'm hoping it won't be too bad, i don't mind pvp conceptually but the retarded roblox helicopter combat is awful

where do you get the CHOAM buildset?

>>528619798
Criticise the game but don't shit that enshrouded dog shit here

>atreides deserter light armor mask doesn't have the fucking helmet, just the hood
RUINED FOR NO REASON

>>528626951
I just did, fuck you.

I wont anymore, but only because you absolute retards dont deserve it.

>>528627539
Also, all u retards shitting on it last played at launch. There's been 6 massive updates since then, its a completely different game from launch, get bent, I'm out fr fr this time

>>528624251
Imagine there's this really sexy gun store, but in front of the gun store, there is a crackhead with a knife, and before you get to that gun store, you'll be forced to either fight this crackhead with your fists (you get stabbed), or you also take a knife (you both get stabbed). And also the gun store won't serve you if you're stabbed. The new changes means that there's a smaller less sexy gun store before you reach that crackhead with the knife. And also there can be multiple crackheads with knives. You're welcome for the amazing explanation.

>>528624492

>>528627705
I just typed a giant paragraph about how bad enshrouded is but I deleted it after I suddenly came to the realise that anyone who shills enshrouded must have some sort of mental illness.

is the deep desert loading screen working yet?

>>528628053
No, do go on. Tell me why I'm not really having fun.

wait so the deep desert is gonna be half pve next update? or has this already happened

>>528628150
Been stuck in a 161 player queue for ages

>>528627754
10/10

>>528628165
You can have fun rolling in dog shit, it's just distasteful and looked down upon. Enshrouded as a game can be summed up as "follow quest marker to unlock new decorative vase".

>>528629457
...as opposed to Dune?

i had so much fucking fun for 100 hours but so much shit is broken or compromised by console faggotry that it is starting to grate
>click on anything in auction house, it doesn't work
>buggy seat swapping thru a radial menu you will use 20 times a trip
>building/inventory system worse than space engineers which was made with bubblegum and cat hair 2 decades ago or some shit
>no actual avenue of pvp
>not enough variety in stuff to do in the endgame even within the scope of what they proposed (if it was entirely fighting other people)
>UI funkiness
>lots of solo people which i believe to be a total failure of some ingame means to easily find a guild, because they could play by themselves and STILL be in a guild if it was easier or there was incentive
>landsraad is just obnoxious to do, NPC pve raid or dumping items into it
>just general weird jank shit

it is unique and it left an incredible impression, made me want to read the books that i dismissed as lazy heeb oil allegory schizo bullshit (he turned himself into a WORM it was the funniest shit)

but they needed more time and i feel like i can almost sense executive interference in its design

>>528627705
friends forced me to play that enshrouded shit a month ago and i fought through 80 hours of it. it was fucking awful

How do you mine the crystals for duraluminium? Just go in with a 'pter and mine them by hand, or is it at all viable to go in with a truck?

>>528630734
go with buggy way easier

>>528630734
it's viable by buggy if you have a base there to store them, then bring an assault thopter to carry them to home base desu

>>528630734
it is really easy to go in a buggy, just remember the entrances

>>528630774
also storing buggy in base

is pure melee viable for pvp?

i'm still stuck on the queue....

>>528630774
>assault thopter to carry them
It can carry a buggy? I though only the transport one can

>>528631692
Not sure what your kidjal is going to do to a scout thopter firing rockets at you

>>528631805
he means store the ore and buggy at a proxy base then transfer the ore back to your main base in an assault thopter

>>528631945
so is pvp just rocket spam, or is there place for ground combat without vehicles?

>>528631805
>>528632046
yes that's what I mean. buggy and storage containers at a base on the edge of sheol. fly your assault thopter with storage module to carry the crystals back to your base as needed. with the double ore from buggy means you don't need to go delving in caves when you run out of jasmium top-side. worth the investment.

>>528632062
There is a place for ground combat but I've only ever seen one other person in them in the whole time i've been playing
either way, catching someone in pvp with a melee weapon would be quite difficult, even if they were on foot

>>528631692
melee would theoretically be yeah but the game won't ever put anyone in a situation they are on the ground

I dont get why there's no faction based pvp
there should be some faction control point where you can lose your inventory but not your equipment, that gives some advantage and incentivises people to get into pvp
give people an actual way to deal with flyers and have it so your vehicles can be damaged and downed but not destroyed

>>528632997
>I dont get why there's no faction based pvp
Outdated design philosophy driven by ego and not logic

What would a reasonable price for selling green t6 weapons on the exchange be? 100k? 200k? 300k?

>>528632997
>there should be some faction control point where you can lose your inventory but not your equipment
you don't lose what you're wearing or holding when you die afaik

>>528633127
>ego
ITs what Funcom runs on. On the one hand, they'd be long dead and buried if not for their monumental egos, on the other, they hobble their games with RETARDED design choices, on purpose and with full malice of forethought, simply because they are autistic retards

>>528613330
Zoomers are so retarded it hurts

>>528633286
Depends on your server, I can regularly sell Thufir's for 70k on mine and that's just a t5 bp I grab while doing jasmium runs

>>528619798
Anon, Enshrouded is just kiddy fantasy Conan Exiles. All that stuff you praised CE does as well.

>>528537760
I kinda think it's not a problem. They don't have any turrets, which imo is a good thing. I would consider making the bases indestructible but allow players to get through the doorways/pentashields with some device. You can have the device take 15/30/60 minutes to give the other guild some time to react and then once the doorways are breached you get a PVP fight on the interior of the base, with some objective to destroy like the sub-fief console or maybe something else, which controls/allows respawns and once that's taken down the attackers basically own the base and can loot/take at their leisure.

I don't think you need to actually blow apart base structures to allow PVP to happen and it might actually be detrimental to allow it as players given the chance will camp a base with 30 tanks and level the entire thing rather than go inside and fight. You have to remove their option to be total wankers because players will always choose being a total wanker when given the choice.

>>528633738
Feel free to check your AH any time retard

this doesn't fucking work the way the tooltip says it does because i just talked to that sassy black bitch and she told me to fuck off

Is there really no way to try out base designs in a creative mode or some planning website first? It would be a massive pain in the ass to actually carry all the resourced needed, get generators going and watch out for the sandstorms just to test a design

>>528543236
You ahve like 3-4 different weapons you'll want to swap between for combat for different situations and then on top of that like 10-12 different tools you want to use situationally and you only have 8 hotkey slots. It's not well designed and you're left with ~5-8 items constantly eating inventory space because you can't fit it all on your hotslots.

>>528613125
You've got servers with 60 people on them at once, maybe a few hundred to a thousand people in total on them. There's no way to really have a market in these conditions. Players will check, see few items they want at prices that are reasonable, try listing some of their own items and after a couple tries of getting no sales and not finding anything worth buying will simply stop using the market.

>>528635101
You can literally build with a hologram without placing anything.

>>528620776
Seems more of a pvp weapon to tax stamina in a fight but I don't think that's actually viable with a 2 shot limit and long reload. Maybe if you're on the sideline and want to help someone else, but in a 1vs1 situation strikes me as just useless.

>>528620776
That dodge obliterates stamina, you have to do a few shots

>>528620776
>>528636608
>Shoot target
>Grapple
>They cant dodge
>Instant death
Its not that hard to think guys, penetration hits deal massive damage in comparison to normal HP damage, but you have to stun enemies

>>528613125
Auction houses need just be one giant cross server trade exchange between worlds and sietches. Also a proper search filters to find shit would be nice.

>need filters for windtraps
>every tier of it uses plant fiber
>no tool for harvesting plant fiber, always 5 at a time, annoying in/out vehicle dismounting gameplay
awful
are there any vendors that sell plant fiber bits?

>>528636337
not really, you've still got to build the sub-fief, and you can't copy a blueprint hologram with solido, so you can't really try things out that way
like I can't build a base with holograms, copy it and reuse in the future

>>528638016
yeah, I think every trading post has them

Still stuck in queue for solaria sietch ta'lab

>>528638016
If you aren't aware, a lot of materials can be salvaged into plant fibres, the leather from the cultist area salvages into 3, capacitors into 1, just go throw your mats and see what you have excess of.

>>528638169
and of course, seeing a green monotone hologram isn't the same as seeing a finished building

>>528634808
Oh look he's still showcasing how dumb he is

Sleepers,
We will be bringing all the servers down at 14:30 (in 5 minutes) to apply a hotfix that addresses the issue with disappearing vehicles reported on a couple of Sietches. The situation is currently being investigated and we will be sharing more details with you soon.

>>528605328
The thing is, modern gamers kill enjoyment of these games for themselves by playing with YouTube and the wiki open on their other monitor and speeding through the entire game to get the highest level and best gear as fast as humanly possible. Then they say things like “this game has no meat to it ackshually” when they had the internet hold their hand for the entire playthrough instead of experiencing the joy that comes from setting and accomplishing goals on your own.

Fuckin taxes man, I just want my unreasonably (for one person) sized base. What's the best way to earn some money quick? Is there anything that sells to the NPCs for a decent price?

>>528639772
I sell still tents at max durability at 2000 each and then handheld resource scanners are about 700 each. These are sold to any npc merchant btw. You can also sell melange to the spice trader in the main cities but last time I did this it was like 750? each so I don't recommend.

>>528639282
I'm not playing like that and I'm going through everything slowly and I can definitely confirm that this game has no meat to it aktshully.

There's nothing to actually do once you have a base set up. There are no real survival mechanics that challenge you. The enemies are all piss easy. Your "things to do" list are just grind mats, decorate your base, and grind quests. Any sense of exploration didn't need reddit and wiki's to kill, the in-game handheld probe launcher does that just fine on its own, and even when I realized how cancer it was and stopped using it, just getting close to things on the map puts an icon down, and then what you actually find everywhere are just little annoying npc nests and various mats and very very rarely something that was worth the effort of running around on foot exploring and finding and looking at.

I'm still a few days out from getting into the deep desert stuff but it's already the case that I'm fighting for reasons to play the game and mostly going through the motions of it. Apparently PVP is just mass thopter spam and gankfests of 8vs1, and the only reason to be in the deep desert is to continue the boring loot progression treadmill that has no real purpose to it.

So where's the actual fucking game? I'm not seeing it and I think 2 weeks from now I'll have all my stuff put in the bank and the game uninstalled from my computer and likely done with forever.

If I knew a couple weeks ago how the game would be, like I do now, I wouldn't have bought it. The only chance this game has at being good is if I come back a year from now and they somehow actually fleshed it out. I did not get my money's worth, that's for sure.

>>528638809
>He doesnt know
Nice projection lmao

>>528638016
you can buy a couple hundred from the crossroads outpost trader or the pinnacle, i forget

>>528638016
Why build them? Seriously you only need the deathstill and the basic power gens. Nothing else gives you more resources at efficient rates.

>>528640456
>pays $50
>plays game all month
>”did not get my money’s worth”

Dawg I can spend $50 in a bar in 2 hours, literal pocket change in current year. If a game can give you just $1/hr of enjoyment that’s still probably the most frugal method of entertainment in this day and age.

>>528640980
Deathstills are super good if you are actively playing for multiple hours a day. IIRC, the 2nd to last tier windtrap can generate 200k ml over 24 hours.

>>528641150
I don't care what you piss your money away on, I am not you and I value my time and money differently than you. This game wasn't worth what I paid for it.

I have no taxes due this week and the cooldown timer is less than 6 days. Was it automatically deducted from my savings?

>>528641306
Yes. If you put money in the back at Harko/Arrakeen, it automatically deducted taxes from that

>>528641493
*bank

>>528641306
Taxes are due every fortnight.

>>528640864
>>528638291
>healwraps are 20 spacecoins
>plant fiber is 100 (ONE FUCKING HUNDRED) spacecoins per unit
>per fucking unit
???????????

>>528641803
Do healwraps break down into plant fiber and then the plant fiber sells for more than the healwraps are worth?

>>528620776
in PVE, i dropped the disruptor for a house burst fire drillshot as soon as I got it and I completed all of hagga basin with it, It beats the disruptor hands down because of range. But then gun play in this game really is not to be a rambo spray and pray thing. With guns its best to carry more than one and use them situationally. I use a sniper at distance, shooting anyone with a shield first so the poison will get to them (poison often kills them) and taking out anyone else from a distance. If a shielded enemy appoaches, I drillshot them, one or two busts does the trick. If they are melee andget close, I dodge as soon as they lunge and drillshot them, and walk backwards, repeating as necessary untill the drop. I also have a karpov on the bar for close quarters room clearing of non shielded enemies. Use cover. On machinegunners/flamethrowers, either snipe them down from range or fire drillshot into them, duck around a corner reload, and repeat, repositon as necessay until dead. A proper melee serup is designed to be able to stand admidst enemies and fight, not guns.

>>528641803
yea
felt strange to me but im grateful i guess

>cant deposit thopter stuff into bank
might just delete base lol

>>528592412
>PVP wasn't removed dingus,
I didn't say it was removed. I said most of the fighting over resources was removed. You can still fight in the DD but now it's almost exclusively gonna be gank squads looking for fights.

>>528643153
>its going to exclusively be other people that want to pvp
oh NO

>>528642821
Can you dismantle it and put in the parts?

>>528641254
You can just put down four deaithstills though.

>>528620776
I've killed everything in 2-4 shots with nothing but the Drillshot, including some DD. It has the range of a sniper, huge damage, and ignores shields. Easy mode to kill enemies is a single grav grenade then you can put pins in all of them.

>>528643207
Yes. That's not what a survival pvp game is about you fucker. This is just going to turn it into rust.

>>528642821
>Put thopter parts into bank
>Put extra thopter into pokeball
>Log off
OH NO WHAT WILL WE DO.

>>528643271
The difference is that you have to interact with it every hour. Effectiveness of each is purely based on how much you plan on playing each day.

>>528643472
>>528643252
sorry, to clarify, i mean the inventory of the thopter
it just means that a dozen bank trips is now 100 so fuck it

>>528638016
Make a newbie friend, give them some worn out gear of yours that will make them a fucking monster and ask them to pay you back with 1000 fiber
I've done it multiple times
Almost everyone is willing to do that trade

>>528643629
>get home
>drop a body in two clicks every hour
>200k water a night (more than you will possibly use)
Not that hard, easier and cheaper than any other water source but you pop off king gathering dusty grass

>>528643406
>not what a survival pvp game is
>This is just going to turn it into rust.
LOL WHAT THE FUCK
bros fr what is the average iq on this fucking website now, it isn't 100 but is it 60? what the fuck is the matter with you cunt holy shit please

was there a patch this reset?

>RUST ISNT SURVIVAL PVP
>THIS GAME IS THOUGH
>BECAUSE I CAN KILL DEFENSELESS PEOPLE IN MY FAGGOT HELICOPTER ONCE AN HOUR

>>528644023
I'm pretty sure they're stealth patching almost every day right now

>>528644213
Rust hasn't focused on any aspect of survival since almost the time it first released.It was the first and worst real survival game.

>PvE players cried so hard funcom is changing the entire direction of the game

this is very reminiscent of new world. started as a PvP MMO but changed last minute in beta to PvE and became completely barren a couple of months after launch.
can this survive on the PvE alone?

>>528620776
House drillshot makes the game trivial, take the perks from mentat and trooper that buff gun damage and body shot damage

>>528644473
>can this survive on the PvE alone?
pve players think it can because they are convinced there is something in the deep desert worth doing. Fact is the game released with no endgame.

>>528645023
Cry more bitch, thats what you get for griefing

>>528644473
1. This game doesn't have PVP. It has ganking. Ganking and PVP are similar but different. When players gank, they aren't interested in things being fun or fair for anyone else but themselves. Only a small fraction of potential players (and thus, customers) are interested in being ganked/avoiding ganks as the main "PVP". What everyone else expects out of PVP are fun competitive fights rather than one-sided stomps, so if you want longevity you need to cater to PVE and PVP players, and not gankers.

2. The total lack of a fun and dynamic PVE loop, and the non-existence of engaging and interesting PVP, means this game is dead within a month if they change nothing.

3. By nerfing ganking, PVP is not being removed, it is being introduced. Albeit their changes so far are nowhere near enough to actually create a sustainable PVP loop that people want to play, but it's a step in the right direction to solving the massive gaping problem of the game having no actual gameplay loop besides log in and grind for higher tier gear.

4. Cry more you whiny bitch

>No motivation to mine the radiation ore
I dont know there is something about the rad mechanism that is just tedious. Especially given how much you need which is ludicrous when you add in the aluminium cost.

>>528545921
Lmao based

>>528645197
This change will actually make ganking worse.

>>528645197
>baby plays his first survival game

>>528645839
>his first survival game
Check out what people are saying and people don't even call it a survival game, they think it's some twist on the extraction shooter genre.

>>528645313
My friend and I went down there in a buggy and mined for less than 10 minutes and drove away with over 2000 jasmium and could have had more if we really wanted.
It's much less time consuming than an aluminum run. We only needed to mine maybe 9-12 rocks.

>>528645390
Feel free to explain your reasoning, but from what I can see we now have PVE players coming into the PVP zone in larger number and able to get PVP equivalent gear that puts them on a more equal footing with gankers than they would've otherwise had. The higher concentration of PVE players and the lower disparity in power between a PVE player and a ganker means that there is actually more friction to ganking than there was previously, not less.

In any case this change is still the correct step to take in preparation for some kind of actual PVP mechanic, like organized and balanced fights.

FFA PVP has never in the history of MMO's worked out as anything other than unengaging gankfests and if they cater to gankers they're catering to 3% of their playerbase, being generous, and pissing away the money from the other 97% (whom the gankers themselves rely on for fun).

It doesn't make sense from neither a gameplay point of view, nor from a making money point of view, to cater to gankers. Especially not when gankers will begrudgingly haul their fat asses into proper PVP anyway. There's no reason to ever cater to such people - they don't give you money, and they drive all your other money making streams away, and they will still play if you cater to everyone else, while the opposite is not true.

Gankers are entitled whiny babies and always have been in every MMO I've ever played.

>>528646337
>much less time consuming than an aluminum run. We only needed to mine maybe 9-12 rocks.
Can you die of rads while in a car?

is solaria still fucked?

>>528645890
What about this game even makes it a survival game?
Zomboid feels like a survival game - at least for the first few hours/in-game weeks of playing. There's actually some challenge in getting food/water and avoiding zombies initially.

But this game is so easy, shallow, and casualized I can't see how anyone can mistake it for a survival game. You never do any surviving. There is no harsh unforgiving environment. You jet around like superman, carry 10+ liters of water on you at all times, only need a couple sips of water a day anyway, and can trivially avoid or kill any NPC or environmental hazard you encounter.

The problem with this being a survival game is that survival in a survival game is a challenge. In this game it is not.

it's impossible to keep PvE players satisfied. they burn through content at an alarming rate and they need to be constantly fed new things to do. If WoW can barely hold on to PvE players with 10+ dungeons, 4+ raids, 10+ zones and thousands of quests a year, what chance does Funcom have?
PvP players just need a foundation to work with. we will create our own content and our own endgame as long as you don't actively try to to chase us away from your game

>>528646724
Cry more you lost lmao

>>528646580
Yes but you can drive on top of the radioactive goop and stay at level 2 rads instead of jumping to level 3 so you last a lot longer staying in the buggy and mining.

Mk5 suit + iodine pills gives you like 15-20 minutes of radiation protection at level 2 radiation, mk4 its like 10 minutes. It's really not that dangerous or arduous unless you insist on trying to mine naked.