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Previous Thread: >>528178041

NOOO I DON'T WANT TO DIE

You must roll for Rinne.

>>528760485
I will use all my 8000 jims on Rinne the elf, and I will not get her

I will now roll d9 rinne john drecom...

>>528760485
I don't think I will

>>528760485
I will roll for some dupes because I love my autistic ninja.

all ninjas are whores due to their naked passive

Rinne is definitely bait before samurai drops, but I'm eating it up anyways

rinne samurai cc

I want Rinne more than any samurai

Rinne Love!

Thread! Don't betray me now!
we're still alive!

Gimme Gimme Content!

New abyss, new class options for the masked adventurer, higher level cap, a rework of the retarded tag system...

but will we get ninja gear in the ninja cave...

>>528763651
Yes, but only for 24h, after that drecom ninjas will remove it from the game, and from your inventory

>>528763651

*dabs on dem ninjas
"No"

Should I keep him for my dispatch teams or feed him to Debra? I was pulling In hopes of getting Alice, so I can have an Evil priest for my evil dispatch team. I already have Debra, Viv, Mil and Phillip

>>528764876
Just keep him for the collection.

>Finally defeat the Warlock
>Find Lulu's body
>She reenters her body
>Shake her hand
>Activate the Right Hand of Reversal mid shake
>Turn her back into a corpse
>Spin 360 and leave

>sand cave
Cleaning the sand off and out of Chloe.

>already making jokes and ideas about content that we won't be seeing for the next 10 years
>implying that this game will still be played in 10 years

ugh, Lana, you hold it.

>>528765557
>Cave full of sand

>>528765575
>Implying the game will still be played in 10 months.

Does equipment affect dispatch teams? I seem to be able to disarm and take my dispatch team's equipment, no idea if that's gonna make them screw up or not

I thought this update was going to come with sam and the farming dungeon would have a sweatshop cave grind like the dragon, but with just ninja MC i think it's going to b just pixie style.
With the event equipment having 0.05% to drop

>charm tolerance meme equipment again instead of something useful like evade
Shan't be reinstalling.

>>528768290
why are you still here
you're not even worth calling gwo anymore

I asked for charm resist gear, so that anon could finally beat the doll.

>Event has ninja gear on it
>Eventually it goes permanent
>Finally free from cyclocunt
pls

>>528768562
>*The above request becomes available once you reach a certain point in the Impregnable Fortress
Watch it require you to beat the doll for it to unlock.

>>528768734
It's permanent from the start.

>>528769038
>it's hidden passage again

>>528769067
>inb4 it has no ninja loot on it

what to do with 2nd reserve account?
i do not even want log in once per week to get supplies

Where is a good place to farm mobs for the pass?

>>528769204
I'm 90% sure there will be no ninja gear.

>>528767665
allegedly.

>>528769696
b8f request for the demon, kill 2 first waves - retreat
you get demons+magic beasts
or fordraig for magic beast

>>528769474
>2nd account
But why? There's not even that much meaningful differences between legendaries and standard adventurers.

>>528769696
Den of earth, pixie event, grasslands take your pick

>>528770108
I was softlocked by a month, after first weak rolled second account and played it till I get my main back
I am just before first fight against melgina in port city
have some gems and other books with good adventurers and even Savia

>>528769793
thank you john drecom for such good odds.

>>528770257
Well if you have your old account back just abandon the newer one. This isn't one of those games where you want to double the amount of shit you have to do, considering you already need to repeat shit with the Wheel. I barely have enough patience to run one account lol.

>>528770540
eh, I do nothing on it for like 3 months already
its just that its kind of waste for it to lie like that
but well I guess I will just keep it in reserve if something happen

I <3 Amelia~!

Sayonara Earth Den dispatch...

>>528769696
fire den too

NYOOOOOOOOOO I was meant to queue up one more round of den dispatches before it ended and i only just remembered and now it's too late...

>>528775876
holy fucking bricked

>>528767665
i believe it does.
feels like anything below 1000 power per character seems to fail or get cut short more.

watching the beginning again through that streamer, i totally forgot that our character actually has/had a a real face.
wonder if that will come into play somehow.

>>528777339
>we were Lulu all along

>>528777339
Link? Must've missed it

>>528777661
https://www.youtube.com/live/9qrlJWLWle8?si=0wRNN_NTYGoPzwP-

>>528777928
wtf, Masketta Adventurer is a redhead anime girL?

reminder that we're just the ???? tumor
the poor sod we possessed is some smuck who jobbed to a demon

>spend 18k gems on Rinne on her first banner
>roll zero(0) Rinnes
>only get the 1 garunteed from the pity shop
Fuck Rinne, Kiriha is my new best friend.

>>528777928
Don't forget to like and subscribe!

>>528778320
desu going 1on1 against a greater demon is pretty lethal even at max level

>>528778351
>Fuck Rinne
but of course

>>528778509
we don't know what REALLY fucked him up though. The first thing we see is just him being down to 30 hp and also at lvl 30. So it's likely that he's either an intermediate adventurer who just found himself in a very unfortunate place. There's also the fact that we start out with a no grade tag, although it should only theoretically allow unmasketta to be at lvl 20

>>528778320
>we've been piloting a fleshbag just like Helmut's vines
>that's also why our UI is unchanged when we get blinded/asleep/charmed/confused

How was the vtuber stream
Did we get a million players?

>>528778918
we have never been more back

>"splendid I shall stay in a suite!"
>proceeds to stay in the stables just to spite her
I like my sheli faintly smelling of flowers and horse shite

Do you guys actually pay money for the gacha?

>>528783727
Yes, I spend like 20k monthly

>>528783727
Like 10-20 monthly

>watching streamer
>gets hit with the invisible orange circle bug
>almost dies
good show drecom

>>528785687
>invisible orange circle bug
What

>>528786473
every once in a while when you use your right hand in a dungeon. it can bug out and make at least one of the circles invisible and make it a gamble to actually hit it.

>>528783727
Just $3.69

>>528777928
Who even is this?

>>528783727
I used to, but these days I invest in stocks and sometimes buy vanity stuff with resale value like figmas.

>>528768389
I check in once every 2 weeks or so. Hoping to blow my remaining gems on a big tiddy dark elf waifu then uninstall for good.

>>528793598
>Hoping to blow my remaining gems on a big tiddy dark elf waifu
We'll probably get a legendary Beastfolk Samurai. The general Samurai though...

Will likely still not be a Big Titty Dark Elf.

cant wait for you to fuck off, I hope shell be released soon.

>>528777928
i will now watch your vtuber

crackpot crazy theory. what if samurai class is the reward for the dungeon and we can use it on masketta or iarumas

>>528795184
copepot theory*

this round of kill 300 gwiggas feels more boring than usual...

>>528796491
WAKE UP SHELLI

>get Yeka's quest
>she's a used up hag
Bwos...

>>528797439
how did you unlock her quest without reading a single word of her unlocked lore

>>528777928
my sweet sweet babygirl, i'm sorry bwos, but she ignites all my male instincts of protection AND reproduction at the same time; she sounds just way too sweet, to the point that I even get drunk on pheromones; women with a voice this girly are literally succubus of our era.

>>528797439
bro...

>>528798278
Truly vile

>>528798278
Gwo. Its a man, never trust a tuber

>>528797439
nigga, read her pages
>>528798278
she is literal demon(male)
well enjoy you vice

>>528796491
>going for the demons
Gwo... your magical beings and insects...?

>>528777928
>skip to the end of the vod
>she renamed everyone
Absolutely psychotic.

>>528802991
its gettin there...

>>528803241
>end of the vod
>lvl 1
did she just scam John?

I only have business with corpses.

>>528804162
Man, I hate thos tanky wizards so much, especially their sentry versions.
And apparently, they're not even the worst thing in the first three basement floor of the third abyss?

>>528804950
cyclops

>>528797439
Most of our girls are used goods, anon.

>>528805496
What the fuck

>>528804950
Nah, they are definitely the worst thing on those first floors, and it only gets worse.

>>528805496
wrong, my wife is pure dried up hag

>>528804950
How the hell do those old decrepit farts even have so much HP?

>>528807772
>debra, enslaved, you know what happen top pretty slaves
>yeka, 4 kids, definitely a milf
>alice, cult slut
>lana, couped, thrown into rape dungeon
>alt lana, run away with some guy, obviously hand holding was included
>>528809212
necro advanced class HP

>>528760196 (OP)
>in the impregnable fortress
How far into the game is that?
But
>This request has no time limit and can be accepted any time as long as the conditions are met.
this means I don't have to rush?

>>528809459
>spoiler

>>528809930
It's abyss 3, what part specifically who knows, but since ninja gear only drops on the last 3 floors i'd expect to be at least post-doll kill.
>no rush?
Pretty much

>>528794546
It's like John Drecom doesn't want my money.

>>528799905
>>528799928
you can literally hunt her roommate anons, she was doxxed for participating in a wuwa event; she is a cutie. She is 80% chink though.

>>528777928
>she does 10 hours livestreams
What the hell

>>528812579
more time up more money! (like 1 dollar per hour)

You can't die yet... we are about to get content...

Is Rinne even any good if I have good MC? Wondering if I should throw 10 or 20 and see how my luck turns out

>>528818763
Ninjas need all the help they can get with stats, and rinne being leggo means you have to whale for disciplines so i'd say no
Unless you are fishing for crits, then just run a tri-ninja frontline for memes lmao

>>528819127
>ninja frontline

>>528819587
Savor the blender

ninja quest sounds like catacombs: electric boogaloo, wonder if it'll be as hard...

>>528819587
why is she so shiny

>>528818763
I gave her inherit to MC,
row attack on a fighter comes in handy occasionally

Here's your samurai bro

>>528822316
Demon sweat and pheromones

>new dungeon
>has sand
>has shadows
we're so fucking back gwos

>game delayed by 3 years
>already had the first 4 abysses done
>3 years later still no content developed for after the 3rd abyss
It's kind of amazing really

>>528823686
They outsourced to the chinks, we are getting content now but at what costs

>>528823686
No way

>>528823686
The idea that they are just waiting to release 4th abyss despite it being completely done makes me even more of a doomer

>>528822316

>>528824085
If it ends up being bug-free i'll forgive them (lol)

>>528823686
I wonder how many dungeons they done considering the fact that they had all the current 4 done in 2022

>>528824495
>the fact that they had all the current 4 done in 2022
We don't know that

>>528823686
not that hard to imagine
>thinking of more ways to siphon players for their web3/not projects

>>528824085
>The players have too much content, delay abyss 4 until 2027
I can see it

>just found out the enemy fairies call you onii san in jp
JOHN DRECOOOOOMMMMM

Hahaha, the incompetent shit-savoring drecomists are just too laughable.

>>528824670
https://x.com/Wizardry_Daphne/status/1585104449969659904/video/1
Still seems like they had plenty done by then

>>528825794
All it showed was gameplay from abyss 1
The rest was probably basic proof of concept just like anything we've seen from abyss 4
Anything else is just speculation

>>528825794
who is narrating this

>>528824480
>Drecom
>Bug-free
Come on anon we're coming up on the 1 year anniversary by the time Abyss 4 drops. You can't be that naive.

speaking of bugs, youve already killed those 300 bugs for the mission pass havent you?

I haven't even touched the pass, hell i didn't even touch the weekly.

>>528827380
nah, I've just been doing my dailies and haven't actually gone to Fordaig yet

>>528827380
need like 80 junk to finish it and am just going to wait for it to come from dispatches now that the den ones are done.

300 reversals, 200 chests, 200 bugs, 300 magical beings. That's how I did.

>>528827380
>Not waiting for the overlap with the surprise 2nd skill book grind after maintenance.
Ngmi.

>>528827380
I haven't done a single mission for it

>>528827808
Same for me
Worked out pretty well, it always looks like an insurmountable wall at first, but it only takes a few hours

>>528824785
Fucking let us play with the jp voices already

literally end of the month
where is the promised samurai

>>528830716
Shadow drop samurai tomorrow out of nowhere

shadow drop that eos announcement

Shadow drop deez nuts.

Shadow drop this game and play something else lmao.

>>528822956
Very sexy hands. Would.

shadowdropping cute beastgirls onto my cock

Shadow drop the guy above me off a cliff.

the shadow sand cave is already taking effect on/wizg/...

>Drecom
Dropping
Really
Extensive
Content
On
Masked Adventurers

Come on guys they aren't lying it was in their name all along trust the plan.

>>528835923
GUYS,
WE are going into a CAVE and from what we have been told WE can expect SAND and a possibility of SHADOWS
get hype
SAND AND SHADOWS in ONE dungeon for the FIRST TIME EVER

this but the cat is debra

huh? wasn't a snow biome next?

>>528840808
That's for abyss4 and furious, coming in 2028

>>528840808
Abyss 4 is cancelled, we're having another event that won't give ninja gear instead.

Holy shit Abyss 4 just flew over my house.

>WITNESS THE POWER OF THE CONTENT

Shadow drop a load into your mom
Shadow drop my jaw when the pregnancy test is positive
Shadow drop by the store for pickles (she's got a craving)
Shadow drop her off at the birthing suite and waiting outside
Shadow drop a tear when I held you for the first time
Shadow drop you off at school
Shadow drop by the bank for some errands
Shadow drop to my knees during a robbery
Shadow drop one of the gunmen with a haymaker
Shadow dropped my guard for a split second
Shadow drop into a coma

...It's been a long time. I'm back from the bank, son.

>open the content already-oops.

>What is this i see? Content?

I am rerolling in uma why waiting

I am playing anime card game why wait

I am playing p5x why wa

Another for the 41%.

I can't believe my eyes

>>528854158

>>528854158
powerful

>>528854158

Cant wait until they slap a pvp mode and force us to fight each other in a dungeon

>>528857871
>force us to fight each other
Nah, that'd be ga
>in a dungeon

>>528858358
Have fun going up against ojisan's D9 Gerulf jacked up with inherits and +20 gacha gear

You should be able to make your own dungeon and force people to go through it

>>528859154
>only matches you with people who have similar overall Party Power
Yeah Drecom would fuck it up but it's fun to think about.

>>528859154
>almost everyone stacks EVA
>meet another guy with 150+ EVA but not even 150 ACC
>La-spell spam
nice

>>528859372
>Similar party power
>Whales just run 5 man teams with 200 eva, 300x3 atk or 600 mag monsters.

>>528854158

>>528859698
You could probably win against the average player with two mages if they both had insane magic attack and action speed. No FTP team is going to survive two 600MAG AoE spells.

>>528858012
Stupid lulu isnt dying over and over. We are

sandy content soon

when is content

um... nootral bros?..

>>528867364
finally, I can roleplay good masketta that turns evil around his evil women

>>528867364
>Flip flop between good and evil options to stay neutral
I love being a schiz- I mean neutral.

where to put bonus point for Rinner?

>7 bp vit boon Rinne
I'll take it, I can still half pity samurai next week

>>528867364
Time to spam that NPC in abyss 1 that ask for herbs. I will become Neutralman.

we got the update
why are we so dead
is everyone over at /uma/

>>528869421
>we got the update
We did? Oh, we did.

Brothers?!

>>528870386
HOLY CONTENT

>>528870386
Lets GOOOO

>Lulu notes the cave looks to have been inhabited by people from not-Japan
>it's just generic barrels and boxes
How can you tell, Lulu?
>

heat-haze junk gives only ninja gear, and the ninja mobs have a remixed battle theme which is pretty cool

>>528870386
>>528870693
how is the junk drop economy

>>528870693
Wait, they added (slightly) new battle music? Holy fucking new content.

>>528870386
>>528870693
>good chest
Drop rate will be stealth nerfed within 24 hours

>>528870386
And the stars? The colors?

>>528870829
this means you have to farm TODAY
what point of Guarda does it unlock

>>528871105
im after the doll on my first run and got the ninja cave cutscene on login

How do I get out of here? Tried interactive with the wall, floor, nothing...

>>528871105
It's available to me, who has reached Fortress Basement Arrival. Just make sure you visit the capital to accept the request.

str or luk for Rinners

cyclopsfarmers....

>>528871513
Bwo...your hook...

>>528871582
nvm, it's likely that it's got the same trigger condition as le bricken
I'm only at the first harken in guarda and got it

>>528871513
Nevermind had to first interact with the footprints before interacting with the obvious switch on the floor

>just casually walk in on a Lin Kuei meeting

Does bringing Rinne add extra dialogue?

Human women, running the world.

>bamboo trap procs
>everyone screams
>nothing happens
1000 folded ninja traps...

Can anyone post the maps? My fort is getting fucked by running around.

Banging your head on every wall, my favourite Wizardry mechanic...

Gwos....the ninjas are hitting my 150+ EVA frontline....

>>528873397

>>528803702
I dunno if she did or not, honestly. She did get into the game and show off the gameplay but she acts like she's barely literate. She's either one of those vtubers that acts retarded to be cute, or she's actually retarded.

The map is really fucking annoying, but it finally feels like you're playing wizardry.

Fucking Alice Everywhere system

>Reach boss
lmao this will be e-
>Mesmerization jutsu
>Entire backline confused
>Mesmerization jutsu
>Entire frontline confused
Fug

>Livana t-poses every time she uses an inventory item

>drecom releases new content
>the entire game crumbles like a fucking house of cards
abyss 4 never

>>528874151
Post maps pls I'm lost...

im scared the drop rate for junk is too good...

>>528874760
Abuse it while you can.

>20 rolls
>accidentally got 2 ninjas
>both 5 points
Lol, first time I'm both happy and kinda peeved

>>528875284
IVs are more important check if any of them has any

>>528874760
I'm at the boss and all I got was generic junk.

>>528875346
The other one has 15 DEX and 15 SPD

>>528875450
speed boon is pretty good

>>528875585
Is SPD better or DEX for Ninja?

What's the best boon for the ninja girl, STR?

>>528875662
I think they want str and luk, so not sure about dex
spd never hurts

>>528875748
Alright thanks. SPD it is.

>ninja gang wars
WE

the boss ninjas keep on critting me gwos...

>>528876458
Gamblers dev is back baby

>Fossilized bone fragments on the supplies
i c

TLDR on the new sandcave quest and the rinne rerun? Just been doing dailies lately and logging off, not keeping up with anything

>>528877096
Fossilized bones and class revert scrolls should've been regular event rewards the moment they were added.
They reward sticking to the game for the long term.

>Only 1 in 20 junk was with ninja gear
John, why we must suffer...

I was about to make a lengthy post shitting on the game for the ugly ass dwarves banners and a fucking Adam reskin but then I opened the game and saw the cute ninja elf so I stopped.

>down to 14k for a vit boon rinne
what are the chances I can hard pity samurai....

Used all my 8k jims, got Rinne with LUK and 5 BP and Adam copy.

>>528877419
To think this bitch is Yeka's progeny.

>rolling for Rinne
I hope at least you have spare Sheli to unbrick her

>>528877705
>implying i'm going to ever use her

>>528877309
Best i can do is 24$ packs
you rike it?

>Surely this is what the players wanted

>>528878065
>limited to 1 daily buy
john drecome still needs to make money you know, practically giving it out for free

>>528876458
ok gwos i brought my own kiriha and critted two of those mfs instead, made it easier

>>528878981
ok now he critted 3 of them, ninjas are so back...!

What's the best stat to dump all bonus points in for Ninjas? STR?

Ninja cave is unironically what Fordraig was expected to be

These fucking ninjas have like 4k hp each

>Kill the ninja boss
>Got allahu ackbar'd
Y-you double NINJER.

>>528879608
I'm beginning to think that SPD is the best stat for literally every char.
>Fighters + Thieves
Needs SPD to setup FPS/hide
>Knight
Knight defense (or whatever that teamwide damage reduction skill is called) and stun bash.
>Mages + Priest (mage)
De/buffs + La spell
Ninjas probably have a buff/debuff/setup skill they can use as well.

uuuuh even the fucking brap clouds are hitting my evasion frontline WTF

>>528879608
SUPEEDO.

Ninjas get Gale, which gives them an ATK buff when they dodge. So you always want to be dodging. They also have debuffs and shit.

why did I recall reading that ninjas want luck in these threads. I checked but none of their skills want luck?

>>528879608
>>528880314
>>528880485
Speed and luck atm have the most value because they can't be compensated by gear
10 str = 10 atk is shit, when you have +40 atk from one substat, while speed gear bonus is much less

>>528880637
That was probably me floating a meme idea about giving Kiriha luck (since he's human and has a good luck score to begin with) and loading them up with lv6 followup and counterattack to maximize instant kill procs. It was not meant to be taken seriously.

what are the chances for lvl 1 follow attack?

>>528880642
Speed can be compensated by gear tho

>>528880637
You can inherit all skills that want luck
Ninjas are investment heavy

>>528880874
oh right I'll probably do that then, I just like the idea of luck

>>528880836
Approximately 2*luck/1000

>>528880874
Is there a guide for building a Ninja. Rinne is too cute and I want to boost her to the moon.

>>528881019
Wizardry Daphne build guide:
Swipe for D9+all skill 7

>>528881089
LOL, I mean more hidden priority based stuff. Like how Savia gets gigaboosted by an inherited Alice.

>>528880836

>>528881251
2h weapon sucks ass, and for a while only botters could afford good kunais, so only possible build for ninjas was double dagger frontline tank
They can stack a lot of eva, but it also is meaningless these days
Beyond that ninjas are like thieves, but double dagger instead of the shield. As much as annoying to use in combat too, when you try to hide to use your only burst ability, but any sneeze breaks the hidden state. Good evasion tanks though until new content went retarded with eva requirements
t.270 eva can push even further Kiriha

Wait a second... ninjas in the desert?

>>528881712
Ninja Variants : Sand

>>528881251
I didn't know there were build guides for this game.

Well, Rinne gets crazy high surety. So that's probably where you want to start. DEX BP pump + Double daggers for even MORE surety, and we just got some Surety Up (Thief) books from castle ruins if you bought those. With enough investment she could probably hit 100 Surety and that's gotta be good for something.

That's just, like, my opinion man.

>>528881494
>>528880983
i see thanks, was just wondering why my drigga was FAing 80% of the time guess it was just luck

>>528881698
I don't know if investing in ninjas is useful anymore. Late Guarda, Dragon and the top Castle levels were all smacking my 200+ eva adventurers consistently. The devs giga nerfed evasion. Sure you can still breeze through the easier content or farm with it but really it's worthless on the hard shit that matters.

>>528881698
Why does Evasion suck now? I'm still in the Waterway and it's really good here. Do enemies have guaranteed hits now or something?

>>528882693
All of the pieces of hard content they have been putting have insane high accuracy or guaranteed magic hits.

>>528882616
Yeah, i myself too think of farming kunais and putting Kiriha in the backline
270+masolotu was mostly evading against f20 though, but it gets stupid. atk maxxing+high level skills seems to do better now
>>528882693
John Daphne got upset that you can stack eva and get away with near everything. So instead of buffing def(by instead of making big hits for 300 damage work as multiple 100 hits, so your def stacking would work), it just bloated accuracy of the monsters to the point you can't consistently evade, making eva stat pointless.

>>528882693
Enemy acc/eva caught up to what we can actually do. 150 evasion + MASULOTU is still pretty good but now you need like 150 ACC on top of that. This is just my FEELING but it seems like there's a fairly short window between "get constantly plapped" and "neo from the matrix", so i think the calculation is subtractive.

>Boss ninja insta-casts row wide confuse when his hp drops a bit
>Ninja flunkies have shit loads of HP compared to their normal dungeon counterparts
>Ninja flunkies can RNG crit instant kills when they feel like it
I could probably power through it with revive spam once my fort is full, but anyone got a good strat for the fight?
Paralyze and sleep don't seem to work on the boss.

>>528884851
Tried just bringing 5 mages and nuking the shit out of it? If they can crit you, logically that means HP doesn't matter.

>>528884851
Masolotu+Dilto
Kill small ones first, then kill the boss
Ninja+Fighter+Fighter
Priest+Priest+Priest did work for me, first try both fights
Also i FPS only after cleared small ones, just in case of fucking up with skill bind, boss died in just 4 FPS though

Not sure if it's just this cave, but critical feels to be buffed, procced multiple times already, both against ninjas and against chimera

>>528885076
The ninja flunkies have 3~4k hp each
Their damage isn't high, but the constant crit insta-kills and confusion spam overriding your actions hurts.

>>528885362
Looks like I should go see if I have any confusion and insta kill tolerance gear in my storage.

ummmmmmmmmmm my neutrality???

>Rinne banner rerun
Wow, I really shouldn't put my gems in that. However...

>Art of Assassination Skill Scroll
>Ninja Dual Wield Skill Scroll for paypigs
>Both ninja-specific

Boy they sure want people to build some busted ass Rinnes, huh?

>>528887094
They want people to build busted masketto mans

i hate ninjers

>>528887205
Well yeah if you level ninja you're going to be at it for a WHILE. But eventually you'll change off ninja and won't be able to use either of those. But Rinne is a ninja forever. And she has huge tits.

redpill me on katanas

>>528887353
2h sword for weebs

please tell me i dont have to fight the fucking nijjers again on the second loop

>>528887353

>>528888021
that enemy has the same IQ as wizg

>>528887809
You don't fight the same group.

>The 2nd part requires you to select only 1 adventurer to bring with you and walk through another dungeon with significantly easier enemies. Upon reaching the end you MUST sacrifice the adventurer you bring with you (You will have to fight them. Select stand your ground.) They will be PERMANENTLY deleted if you confirm to do so.
Some dumb whalekek will lose their d9 waifu to this lmao

>>528888413
huh?

>>528888413
what?

WAIT! We got... content today?
But I see no new banner and i already got my ninjers
back to comfy farming in shadowverse

>>528888726
>>528888757
Finish true end to access ninja proving grounds

>>528889047
And to get a free Rinne !

>>528889629
>he doesn't know
Check your well of the mind, it has slot for guiding lantern(shadow), that unlocks ninjas

Has Wizardry finally met its match?

>>528890012
lol
lmao

>>528890012
wizardry eos, dungeon stalkers takin over

>>528890012
Korean sameface is a real problem

>>528890012
Dungeon stalkers GODS, please have mercy...

>>528890012
>actionslop
>battleroyaleslop
Nice graphics tho

WHAT TEH FUCK

>>528891234
>>528888413

>>528891234
Wizardry speedrunning to EOS. Imagine a whale accidentally deleting their $2000 character...

>>528891234
This is certainly a design choice

So is Rinne worth it if I keep her in the back throwing kunai?

I'm sorry Lana, your time has come...
Stand your ground...

>>528888413
>>528891234
EvilGODS don't need to do this btw

>>528891234
HOLY BASED I kneel Jean-Director-Sama. Not a single other gacha game would ever dare, but for him? It was thursday.

>>528891234

>>528760196 (OP)
Agora-sama reigns supreme after almost a year out (when is the anniversary?)

How can anyone compete?

>>528891693
No...

>>528892067
I DUN WAN DIE

>>528891234
Fucking based, I kneel

>>528891972
Eka is NOT made for SS lmao

>>528891234
>game about manipulating events to avoid the worst outcomes using time travel powers
>finally something shocking that the player might actually want to time travel away
>"Um, no you can't just fix all your problems with time travel."
Fucking retarded.

well who unlocked that ninja class for mc?

>>528892509
I completed the event, but it seems you have to complete fortress to access part 2, because i can't trigger it at least

>Content, but you have to pay in blood
John drecom simply gives no fucks.

>>528892842
Elf-Pri...
I'm (not) sorry...

Sacrificing a life for personal gain is not a very Good thing

It is indeed time to cut down elf pris. Heals you along the way only to die like the elf he is.

THE NINJA FEAR THE SAMURAI
fuck, half of my party is dead, the ninja boss gang is a rollercoaster, still not as bad as the gamblers.

>>528891234
So what will we sacrifice to unlock the samurai class?

>>528894472
your bank account

>>528894472
A substantial amount of gems

Lord class will require you to impregnate evil women back to the side of goodness

>haze junk is super rare
>only 3* blue out of it
Why bother even

>only 3*
>only
That's huge actually

sorry, sacrificing teammates is morally wrong so I shant be doing your quest

>have to fight the rape gang 2nd time
[x] accept death

New content rike?

>>528894472
A max level Rinne.

>>528896152
Yes, I can finally sacrifice all those nameless dwarf knigs.

>>528890012
I got in the test but haven't bothered booting it........

>kill friend
>turn into ninja
>forced into eternal damnation (grinding exp)
who wins here really

>>528892445
Because then your character wouldn't have demonstrated the necessary force of will to become a ninja assassin. Are you stupid?

>leggo adventurer gets ninja cc
>you need the book AND to complete the ninja trial with them and the one you need to sacrifice to cc them

Sorry big sis, you're going into the cave

Why thank you John Drecom, what a fun and fair fight I am savoring it

>>528891234
WTF that's -1 tag for my account. Damn you Drecom and your jewish trick.

>Literal ninja proving grounds, avoiding FOEs to get Ninja CC.

I kneel.

>>528891234
>someone intentionally kills their Legendary Adventurer for this
If it's for the memes...

>>528897757
debrabros dont... she can still open chests...

>>528897519
cant wait for the gamblers samurai fight

>>528897519
>female team
>lose
Many such cases...

>>528898171
My widowed wife Kiriha...

Nah, I can't do the second boss fight. My best characters are either dead or have low fort from the first fight. Maybe tomorrow.

It seems that unlocking ninja class as neutral and good flags your account. We don't know what it does, but be careful, might prevent from other advanced reclasses

as if goodkeks werent cucked enough

Wait, so now alignment actually suddenly matters?

Alignment has always mattered

>>528898826
>suddenly

>>528898717
...What ? How ?

>>528898717
So it's actually a bug and you're meant to go Evil first? Or does it permamently lock you to Evil?

>kill your friend in cold blood so you can become a ninjer
>uuh wtf why am i evil now

Elf-Pri is not my friend

>>528899113
Not a bug, but there might be consequences. Don't know yet for sure though, and might take a long half a year until samurai reclass to be sure

So what, will I now have to first wheel back in time and be as jerkish as possible, then unlock ninja, then wheel back in time to be as neutral as possible, then unlock samurai, then wheel back again, behave as nice and helpful as possible, then unlock lord?

Lulu... I'm so sorry...
*draws blade

Hum-Nin when

>>528899530
You don't need any classes other than Fighter and Thief

Does Ninjer even have anything good to inherit? I don't think I'll want to bother with the insane exp required on MC, it's only barely bearable with dispatches

neutralchuds in shambles

>>528891234

>>528900209
evil niggas

>>528896928
But do the ninja assassins know that you're an evil tumour with time-reversing capabilities? Wouldn't it be very ninja-like to trick them and use your right hand of reversal on the corpse to bring your friend back to life after killing them?

thats it im only gonna farm the cave for shinobi junk, i am no evil faggot, ill rather wait for the samurai, bishop and lord cave as the good lad i am

Stay strong goodbros
this is yet another test from God

>>528891234
>>528898717
This is fine and all but they shouldn't do this when there isn't a Good option at the same time.

>>528899723
Gale, aoe blind and dispel is kinda neat

>>528900714
You're lucky it's not alignment locked

>>528900528
>on the corpse
You throw the corpse in abyss so you can't use your hand
Why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane

I wonder what sacrifices you must do if you're unlocking the neutral samurai and the good lord class.
>you must kill this peasant to show your loyalty to your shogun
>if you want to prove that you're good, then cuddle this little puppy in front of everyone

the puppy is a male beastfolk

there any harkens in shinobi's wild ride?

>>528891234
Sorry Drecom, but I won't be participating in the new content

>>528901251
nyo

Wow, that was a waste of time.
Spent all my 12k gems I saved up, didn't get one single Rinne.
I'm tempted to just delete the game and ignore it forever.

>>528901540
evens you quit
odds you use THAT

>>528901540
>I'm tempted to just delete the game and ignore it forever.
The true gacha experience.

>>528901618
Its gwover...

>>528901251
No, but it's full of secret doors, hidden ladders and pits. You like?

Goodbros... my sword... it's unsheathing on its own... LANA RUN...!

>>528902053
this but with chloe

>>528901540
The funniest thing is it's going to take you 8 months to save up again if you don't swipe. Enjoy.

>>528902176
Chloechads would never.

>>528901540
>Pulling before having a guarantee
>Ever
Gachas probably aren't for you anon.

>>528901540
>rolling when you have 18k gems
A common mistake for retards. I did the same and ended up swiping to get Sheli. It made me really hate myself.

>>528901954
nyot ryeally, seems like it'll be annoying to farm

I don't want to do this but I suddenly got the urge to slice that delicate pale and soft neck off my beautiful wife Alice...

>>528902742
based keeping the game alive

>>528902742
My word...

>>528902597
other gacha games are genuinely more generous.
anyway, if the supply bone tomorrow doesn't give me a rinne, I'll uninstall the game and just give it another bad review on steam. it'll just be one of many anyway.

I'll simply not finish the Ninja trial until we get Elmon as a limited adventurer.

>>528902886
She'd do the same to you for Agora.

>>528902597
I pulled with only 20 rolls and got 2 Rinnes

cant i just sacrifice aldric's crow

>>528903006
There are degrees of Jewishness to gachas, but at least in games with carryover pity you can lie to yourself that you didn't really waste your pulls because you're that much closer to the next waifu that catches your eye. You're playing Russian Roulette for spark-only gachas if you try to test your luck. Unfortunately you landed on a loaded chamber.

>>528901540
I know it's a horrible feeling
Just wait a bit to cool down your head maybe stop for a week or so

>>528903408
You're a vile person.

Well i sure do hope the ninjer quest doesn't downgrade me all the way from good to evil.

>>528903330
>I got lucky
I mean yeah? What does that prove? Always plan for the worst case scenario or prepare to live with the potential to get pegged by Lady Luck.

>>528898717
I'm just not gonna become a pajama spook. Remaining pure for my fairy wife is more important than grinding 10m experience without dispatches anyway.

I hope someone makes a compilation of the things every character says when you try to kill them.

>>528902597
Pretty much every other gacha these days has continued pity between banners. It's just drecom that's stuck in the past.

Some special supplies have arrived for you~

Do only ninja enemies drop the kunai junk or is it that low of a chance for it to spawn?

>>528903702
Well yeah, if you're not willing to roll the bones you shouldn't play gacha anyway. I wasted 78 rolls on Berk and got nothing.
Waiting for guarantee is fucking boring.
You win some, you lose some.

>>528903936
>Pretty much every other gacha these days has continued pity between banners.
hahaha

>>528900968
it will be give away all your gold and the gear your wearing for good. not even joking

>>528903936
Even with carryover I think it's best to maintain discipline and only pull if you have the means. Besides maybe a yolo 10-pull for the meme, if you're going deep in the first place then you wanted the character. Sure you can get them on a rerun, but that's months down the line and by then you'll probably have to choose between the rerun or a current/upcoming banner.

>>528904402
Everyone knows broke driggas can't be good Samurai

>>528904587
I wish we had enough freelo currency that a 10-pull every banner wouldn't gimp me so hard towards a spark.

>>528904205
Different strokes I guess. For Daphne in particular I don't mind waiting since most characters of a class play the same in like 95% of the time. You're mostly pulling for appearances/personality.

>>528904247
I mean persona X does. So does Kuro and hoyo games.

>>528905063
chink games do, korean games might, jp games are 10 years slow

i wish they remixed the battle theme for every region too

>>528904897
NFT-brain devs, please understand. They would rather eat their own tongue than give more freebies or give decent shop prices.

>>528905302
It's actually fucked lol. This game doesn't even have a good value monthly pass like every other gacha. There's literally nothing to buy unless you're an actual whale.

>>528903794
Flut, I am sorry but I must become a ningen, now stand here right next to the precipice and be a good girl...

>>528891234
>sorry sasuke
>there's no next time

>>528905462
You can buy packs for the new Abyss when they fuck up due to incompetently misplacing the decimal point again.

I'm not becoming a N**ga. I'll wait until they release the LORD class.

>>528904587
Of course, but the main thing is that pity DOES carry over and helps you for that next unit you want. Here you either get fucked or go cold turkey until you have enough to spark. For most people this leads to burnout and quitting I think, the opposite of what devs expect with players to swipe.

>>528905230
Now that I think about it I don't even play any JP gacha anymore. They've been mega jew which is probably why they lost pretty much all their market share (except FGO lol).

>>528905230
>chink games do
lel, I play a wide variety chinkslop from bilibili and you better believe they're just as shit as anywhere else

>>528905701
It's still funny to me how everyone agrees that the $100 commemorative packs are fucking retarded and a not worth it, but people were actually rushing to throw money at Drecom when the glitched packs were a thing.
Then they fixed the glitch and learned absolutely nothing from the experience. Amazing.

>>528905940
Don't you like to celebrate your personal achievement by giving them 100$? What are you, poor?
Limited time offer btw

>>528905921
they are but in terms of carrying-over pity they seem pretty consistent, especially post-hoyo

HOPES: WAVERED
TEARS: FLAVORED
RISK:SAVORED

>>528905770
Of course having carryover is always preferable. Helps impulsive pullers save them from themselves somewhat and helps the devs retain players because they aren't quitting on one bad banner.

>>528905770
Personally I'm games with nice currency income and carryover pity I'll drop 10 pulls on every new banner even if I don't want the character that much. But I know it's not completely wasted and from the developer side it's a way to drain currency for the bigger banners. It works out well whereas here it's just a stupid all or nothing that pisses any non whale off.

>>528906331
shut up and get stabbed bitch, its my time to become a ni**er

>>528905491
>*Lamigals you*

>>528905921
Gacha are shit in general. Doesn't change the fact shared pity is the standard these days.

>>528906273
>post-hoyo
I used to consider hoyo to be the bottom barrel monetization of the new-gacha wave as the most jewish, but here is somehow 10 times as worse.
I don't know if they have so much trust on their product selling to whales or if they are plain retarded.

>>528906673
>Doesn't change the fact shared pity is the standard these days.
lol

>>528906862
kek

>>528891234
god i wish i could do this to hoyoslop spooks

>>528907016
What gacha do you play that don't have carryover? Probably obscure shit not even in top 50.

This is the only gacha I've ever seen without pity carryover

>>528891234
God, I wish I could kill some of my Nikkes

>>528905940
The $100 packs for finishing some stupid sidequest or reaching a milestone seems like a parody of gacha pricing, except Drecom plays it completely straight. The only saving grace is that at least they have the decency to not have a pop-up flash in your face every time one appears and there's no in-game ads that you have to watch for currency. I played Atelier Resleriana during the first month or so and couldn't put up with the ads on top of the typical jap jewishness. Seems like most of the western playerbase couldn't either, as it died about a year after launch.

>>528907134
I guess limbus doesn't carry over.
It gives you a refund in other resources but still.

>>528907134
FGO doesn't. But you shouldn't be using FGO (12 years old) as your golden standard kek

>>528907126
>chartfagging
brother did you get lost on the way to /r/gachagaming

>>528907324
You didn't answer the question. I'll give you one more chance before I dismiss you as a LARPing shill.

>>528907445
kek you are a caricature of a gachabrain
yes brother i am larping as a gacha game

Eh, it's just an irrelevant troll.

>fence sitter getting cucked for once
good bros we are finally getting justice...

giving internet access to jeets and seanigs was a mistake...

>>528907569
I accept your concession.

>>528907248
Even that would be better than what we have here desu

>>528907646
but we have to wait 2 years for Lord...

>>528907674
I sure would love to pay 11$ and have every character and gacha weapon in the game lmao.
limbus is my unicorn standard, so i can't really expect other games to follow it, but damn, at the very least don't be worse than hoyo.

>>528907768
Chin up kings, we're ALL lords in this thread.

Playing this game purely f2p and letting Lady Luck decide who you get is the best way to play it imo.
Drecom clearly doesn't want casual low spender's money.

How important is rinne discipline? I got one copy from 11 pulls. Should I go for more?

We love getting fucked by Japanese CEOs here.

>>528908021
discipline is a whale's game, but if you really like her go for it

>>528908021
Discipline really isn't worth it unless you're paying
Better to save your gems for future characters

>>528908021
You only worry about disciplining banner characters if you are a whale.

I love fordraig

>>528908021
>>528908106
>>528908126
Is it better to discipline her or Inherit?

>iq boon rinne
no...
>release she's unusable for the next 2 months and stuck on dispatch duty
it's over...

I’m not going to fucking grind out 10m EXP manually for Masketta Man Ninja just to get to 60, and I sure as fuck am not grinding out 15m more EXP on top of that for Masketta Man Ninja to go from 60 to 70.

I'm not gonna wait for 8 months of daily jewel grinding and hoping for apology gems until I finally can get a guaranteed banner.

>>528907872
My golden gacha experience was Azur Lane. Most I've ever spent on a gacha because (at least as a launch player, dunno how it is now) outside of horrendous luck, your stash of pull currency basically grew over time even if you pulled every new banner. I don't remember the rates, but they must have been pretty good and the fact that each pull cost 2 cubes means anytime you got pull currency it is at minimum half a pull instead of like 1/10th of a pull.

content...

>>528908582
realized* fuck...

>>528908092
Turns out watching girls get railed by old salarymen in hentai was my training arc, I just didn't know it at the time...

>>528908707
I have a friend who plays it and he also says the game just drowns you in pulls at every opportunity yeah.
It's sad that we got the shittiest end of the stick here.

>>528908934
That’s because AL’s monetization is more like an early cash shop MMO or console title early on in the cosmetic DLC, and designed around selling ass loads of cosmetics versus selling rolls, which as a result puts a pretty hard cap on its income compared to traditional gacha.

>>528908496
not a fan of her inherit personally, but mine is far from a good rinne.

>>528908496
>>528909227
Has anyone done a breakdown of the SP cost versus soft cap for it?
Since at level 1 the soft cap is around 250-300.

>>528908640
>8 months
I mean Drecom is definitely stingy no doubt about it, but there's no need for hyperbole. The game has been out for a little over 8 months and even if 1/3 of my gems are from apologems, that's still 3 guarantees.

What's wrong with being neutral now?

>>528908934
It's definitely not the best model for maximizing profits, hence why nobody really copies it. But if feels great as a player. I bought a ton of skins because even if it's just jpegs/live2d I had an enjoyable time collecting botes. You can reframe it as commissioning an artist to draw something I guess.

>>528909980
Stop having no opinions on things Tzalikman.

>>528910593
Ambivalence is an opinion too!

Did you hesitate masketto man?

>>528912240
Who did you kill, you sicko?

>>528912328
Your father before he meet your mother

>>528912240
can i just bring some lvl 1 no name or do they have to be lvled

>>528912743
unless you enjoy rezzing 0 fortitude nobody multiple times during a fight then yes.

>>528909814
>The game has been out for a little over 8 months
What a genuinely shitty game.

>>528912240
So, red answers are evil alignment shift?

>>528891234
I don't get this at ALL, no way it would actually be permanent. Does it warn you ingame they are deleted?

I got Rinne and boy is she cute. The blond hair and pointy ears, but wearing a ninja garb. That hint of eastern accent, saying "touch me not" is great.

>>528914414
Evil elves owe me sex.

>>528913189
Time really flies when you're genociding [enemy type] every few weeks for skill book passes.

>>528913961
>>528914135
That is one of several confirmations before permanently killing them.

Probably has an effect on masketto man's alignment, somehow.

>>528913961
More like the point of no return. If you lug the body back the ninjas see you as weak since everyone knows about corpse revival (at the Church).

>>528912919
i hope the lvl 20 elf pri i used for dispatches is good enough...

>>528914919
That's probably the flag that's being added, it's one of the first alignment shift decisions. How many is it gonna take to actually shift alignment though?

>>528914135
It's about as toothless as perma death from failing to rez dusted characters. Yes you will genuinely lose a character, but you have to really try. Though some schmuck is bound to kill their waifu, so I guess that might make a good engagement bait title for an article on some gaming news site. Might bring a few curious readers to the game, only to be instantly turned off by the shop prices lol.

I want to put Debra back in bros...
Aiiiiieeee I hate this.

Um, bwos
try triple tapping adventurers in training room that already got their alt look from legendary quests.

You can revert them back...

>>528915517
evil women deserve love too

do you have to beat guarda for the new event?

>>528916350
Chat is this real?

>enhance bow
>goes from 7 speed to 6 speed
huh?????

>>528916350
I guarantee that this does NOT make chlorine gas

man fuck these ninjas

>>528916350
wtf it works

>>528917485
You Refined it then Enhanced it
So the Enhancement replaced the Refinement and you got a shittier roll. Now you can't Refine it again.

Congrats you fucked up.

>>528909814
Yeah but we got tons of apologems since launch. When was the last time we got a 2000gem freebie? Like 4 months ago?

>>528917485
Yeah you always want to refine after you upgrade that stat. Then it refines on top of that stat that was upgraded.

>>528916350
WHAT THE FUCK

>>528917934
>give me more free stuff!
you just got almost 2000 from new missions, apologems from those quests, and more
you're a freeloader

>>528918112
Thank you, was failing to upload clips

>>528916810
For the ninja class unlock, yes. For the first part you just need to enter Abyss 3.

>>528918112
What if this has been there the entire time but no one ever tapped on them three times…?

>>528917829
I can't even refine it? Aw...

>>528918714
Then Drecom was being dumb by not mentioning the mechanic at all during their announcements of the Character Quests. They most likely slipped it in for 1.11.0.

>>528918112
>oh that's neat
>exit menu
>entire party is dead
what the fuck

holy fuck

>>528919189
Ninjiggers got the best of me but i won in the end

>>528919242
How long has this been in the game lmfao
I'm spam clicking everything now

Can somebody explain the personality change? I have a good MC. If I make evil choices does he become neutral?

where insect

>>528918112
Wtf

>>528918179
(You)

>even voice lines revert to pre-quest ones
okay Debra the cat, I will do your quest once again.

>>528919469
It only matters for Aura Passives of other characters.
Lana increases the Atk of all characters in the row if it only has Neutral or Good

Alice increases damage if her row has only Evil characters

theres a bunch of those

>>528919591
new ninja hole &
old pixie hole

>give Harry an Antitoxin
>he dies
Oops. Now I know.

>>528918112
I will now do the quests

>>528919685
Alice's buffs Evil or Neutral, though.

What does Rinne need to become a good chest opener? Just inherits + bondmates? Planning to have her opening stuff as soon as I can actually drop some decent kunais

I know. I want to make my MC Neutral/Evil and put him in the back with a spear for my auto party.

>>528918112
WTF!?
You Shall...WITNESS THE STRENGTH OF THE BEASTFOLK.

>>528920195
Like all non-Thieves, she needs to inherit Treasure Trap Detect (Bakesh) and Treasure Trap Disarm (Jean), and have Bondmates that give those (Mudd, Mel) or IQ/Dex points.

>90 fort vit boon Rinne
damn, this bitch better earn her keep

>Sheli wakes up after nuking a schmuck
>Eh? Supper time?
CUTE!

Jeweler, give me your most neutral potion so I can fix my alignment.

>>528921821
>hands you water

>>528921708
So that's not just me, she started saying this line after the update

>>528921156
Is a single inhert from each + maxed bondmates enough?

Tomorrow, I will most likely not get Rinne, and then I will uninstall the game, because the rest of the game is simply not worth playing.

>>528922119
see you next week gachatard
if you dont like rng, go play real games

>>528922049
For Abyss 3 map chests you can get away with having a separate Detecter and Disarmer, but for drops multiple inherits are almost necessary considering how nasty those traps get.

>>528922483
The chances that I'll be around next week are genuinely low.
After all, it's only a 5% chance that the bone will even be for a legenary.

Where's the ok, bye anon when you need him?

>>528923124
He stopped playing the game 3 weeks ago.

I have 1 spare yek
what do I do with her
>mc eats her to learn her skill
>my main yek eats her to upgrade her skill
main yek is already d1 so probably not eating for discipline

>>528912240
Couldn't Masketta Man secretly chop off the body's pinkie finger or something while no one's looking and take it back with him to use the right hand of reversal on it?

>>528760196 (OP)
since we got content I finally got to play this game after what, months?
holy shit, Livana's throwing axe is so cool since she silence+weaken mages in a single hit... It feels really powerful, and she is doing 1k crits already with a 2h axe. Why no one mentioned her around this place?

also, I never got to make that quest with the light armor reward, it's still up, right?

ALSO, I thought she was tall and huge, but she is actually among the smallest female characters? CUTE

>>528923615
You’re a skeleton fetishist, not a pinky fetishist, so your jack off hand only works on mostly whole bodies.

>>528923391
MC should eat her. Each party member rolls a separate Detect check, may as well get one level of her skill for yourself.

>>528923808
good call

>>528923659
everyone skipped her since its samurai time, but then samurai turned out to be a dream...

you need to fully finish the new ninja cave to get ninja mc right?

>>528922483
But this game is gacha kusoge.

>>528924054

>>528923659
She's great.

>>528923659
I regret skipping Livana Lawrence

>tossed Elf-Pri body into the river
>still Good aligned
Lmao I guess.

>>528922049
>Is a single inhert from each + maxed bondmates enough?
No, I have a non thief with lv4 of each and it's nice and doable but not quite comfy yet
Don't pop traps though, so maybe lv3 of detect is good enough

>>528924487
>>528924293
>>528923890
wait... people skipped on this CUTE because of le ebin samurai dream? KEK, I would sudoku the second the ninjers re-run was announced. She is so much worth it: bouncy, genki, smollish. No other character so far focuses on axes so she can use that 4 star ebony hunting axe you had in the corner of your bag since forever. Very happy I went for her on my hiatus.

>>528925137
We've had 2 males. The needle is on hot cute dorky female samurai girl with sakura blossom theme and generic fiery samurai SR dude

So yes. i'm saving hard

>>528925323
anon... it's over, the "new class" was referencing the ninja path... samurai won't be up for several months, perhaps for the anniversary...

>>528923659
She's great as a backline axe-thrower since her skill ignore all distances. I'm trying to build her with full Attack & Surety gears, maybe gonna increase her skill level too.

>>528925137
>people skipped on this CUTE because of le ebin samurai dream
No, people skipped her because she has power level worse than Gerulf
>same damage on special skill(shit damage, worse than FPS)
>water human female has less base str than fire dwarf male
>discipline gives shit stats unlike Gerulfs ATK+SUR
She is literally worse than Gerulf in everything but looks, and no one is retarded enough to pull for bricks

I'm a bit mad that I skipped her because I actually need another Warrior to autofarm with now

>>528925137
>skipped
Hell no.

>>528924929
I thought ninjas would have it easier because of their stats, now idk if I should just invest into Shelli as a chest opener instead.

>>528924341
>>528924525
cute

is hating Lulu a good action or an evil action

>>528926206
Imagine not giving John Drecom all of your hard-earned shekels for every character.

>>528927623
>imagine being retarded paypiggy
I can't indeed

>>>no one is retarded enough to pull for bricks

>>528926680
When in doubt, inherit stuff to MC since you'll always use him
But Sheli is good for her IQ, you may just have trouble opening them but that can still be supplemented

Who will get the ignoble title of laugingstock between Lana and Alice when the next Character Quest is announced for the other? It's gonna be Lana, isn't it?

>>528919242
>>528918112
the guy who lvled another debra because he bricked his...

>>528928142
They're saving best for last (Alice), clearly she's got the most love out of all standards

>Alice Quest
>they make the Agora face permanent
you rike?

>>528929320
What's not to like, Disciple?

>>528929320
>inb4 they just turn agora into another cherub flying around but it's absolutely not happy about this situation.

Til they won't let you kill named adventurers. You just back down at the last second regardless and have to rerun with someone else.

>>528930461
you can't kill Milana? fuck that

They’re going to turn Alice into a beastfolk (no stat change) and make her dress bluer instead.

>>528930598
I mean you have to name them custom names.

>>528926206
Well the nice thing is that you can put her in the backrow and snipe everything with her skill. She's also not locked to maces, which have shit accuracy and speed. I'd consider her better than Gerulf if only for the fact she can spell seal and reduce magic damage, which only mages can do (and you want to spend their turns doing other shit).

>>528930682
Ninjas can spell seal and do it better than mages against targets with bloated res(like in castle)

>no one is retarded enough to pull for bricks
tfw no Red Brick, the king of bricks...

>>528931167
It's him, john le brick

>>528931167
>>528931262
Le Bricken

>Maskettoman does the hand signs when using ninja's skills.
That's neat.

>>528925453
Pretty sure "Ninja MC class change" and "New class" was mention separately. It also mentioned "June onwards" as the estimated time, so I have hope a Samurai banner will replace Aldric.

Red Beard is great.

>>528931580
Yes they’re very clearly written as two separate clauses there.

>>528931908
i still dont get why that guy wanted him and his friend dead

>>528930946
Ninjas should be doing big deeps and dispelling. It's all about turn economy and opportunity cost.

>>528930461
The game won't let you kill renamed Adventurers, you mean? That's a very odd restriction. Were they Unlocked before you went for the choice, maybe?

>>528930682
>She's also not locked to maces
Gerulf isn't either, his passive applies to all 2h weapons. Only his skill really wants him on a mace and you'll want to ignore that and just pump up his discipline instead anyway.
>I'd consider her better than Gerulf if only for the fact she can spell seal and reduce magic damage
Not that valuable as >>528930946 mentioned, and going back to disciplines, gerulf has a huge advantage there since he can stack them up over time, something you can't do with liv unless she's added to standard at some point. And even then gerulf's discipline bonus is far better.
I'm not saying you shouldn't use her, I always play who I like over any metashit, but let's not pretend she's anything she's not

>>528933369
Named = not-generics (elf-mag, human-pri, dwarf-kni)

>>528933369
Just rechecked and yeah he's locked. But that's really weird since the game didn't seem to care about locks at the first run, and after masketto stabbed him too.

Must be really awkward after resurrecting later.

>>528932521
Obviously we'll find out in his Character Quest.

>>528929890
onaholegora

I did it gwos, tzalik man was so cool he did the last strike in both fights.
tick tock elf-pri, watch your back.

>>528934010
>2026
>Redbeard quest
>Still no class change

>>528933391
Is Gerulf worth using without his mace, and thus his special skill? I only used him a bit in port town but I felt that if you ditched that there's no reason to run him lol

>>528933391
That guy is retarded and doesn't know how to build Rinne if he's using her for debuffs instead of fishing for dagger Crits every turn. I also don't care about your discipline cope since not only is that subject to RNG, we could extend the argument to every non special SSR being worse than the standard SSRs. why use Abe when I have a discipline 9 Lana?

>Plead with B1F mob
>it becomes an Ambush
The fuck? That didn't happen before!

I hope you guys already farmed 2x kunais to +20
and had a great break

>>528935502
What's the katana for

>>528935502
Gee, Tzalikman, why does Drecom keep adding equipment just for you?

>>528935502
>doesnt have the one handed brick passive his own saber had
ok i will farm one for you neutralman

>>528935684
two more weeks...

>>528935502
>x2
Did they buff kanatas? Old katana was x1

>>528935684
>He doesn't know
ENTER

>>528936725
You probably mean the dogshit gacha weapon tzalikman had in his banner
Saber was always x2

>>528936725
You're thinking of shitty ninja swords, Katanas(samurai) are 2hit

>the npc ninjas actually say "nani?" when you encounter them
lmao

>>528922119
Ok, bye.

>There's one single rinne bone on the supplies
wtf the other reruns didn't have a god bone

>complete Adam's quest, thinking I'll just roll for his new Alt now
>can swap back and his quest alt's voicelines are mostly better than his high friendship voicelines anyway
Guess I just hoard my gems for the Samurai.

Third week, third time Gerard cc book. I don't even have Gerard. Ffs

so what's the ninja junk farm strat

Jesus fucking christ, it's been so long since i got saved from a floor trap that i almost jumped from my chair

So I'm on the 1st loop on the ninja cave and Lulu told me to just get to the boss as fast as possible, I have to fight these niggas again?! I thought it would be different...

>>528927819
>keeping your game aflot
>retarded
pick one

>Ninjas in the cave have ninjutsu
Did we get the bricked ninjas that don't have the cool shit?

>>528940849
Sorry gwo lvl 60 ability

>>528941814
But we are lvl 60

Dead general, time to move onto Dungeon Stalkers.

>>528945253
Sorry but these characters >>528890012 look like shit which renders the game literally unplayable.

>>528946496
sometimes gooks do it right and then they crawl right back to their plastic doll slop, i don't get it.

>>528946496
They really do like shit. Giving both weg and gook plastic dolls wines.

>>528890012
Wizardry could never

>>528948013
>prostitute (fighter)
>prostitute (thief)
>prostitute (priest)
>prostitute (ninja)
>prostitute (mage)
did I get it right?

>>528948013
They all looks like hookers doing cheap cosplay

Enter the team that saved wizardry

>>528890012
eh this looks more like jap ps3/360 models which i can get behind. gook models are more along the lines of stellar blade and nu vindictus which look like SHIT

I might be going schizo, but it feels like counter/follow up is activating more often all of a sudden.

>>528949046
I remember one of them got fixed, there was a bug where it couldn't activate on a character's 1st turn
Something like that

>>528949046
Yes. I share the sentiment.

>>528949169
I mean after the fix, my MC just has it level one, but it feels like he's countering every turn now

We should collab with Dungeon Meshi

>>528890012
>>528948013
Good goddess of travel....

>>528949046
Feel same way
Also >>528885805
Had multiple criticals in Guarda too, it feels like Drecom decided to unnerf it during rerun. Good question if they will nerf it again or not

Those sinister laugh traps are ruthless. Ate two during exploration of the higher floors in guarda and now Flut hates my guts and even my flaming heart Lana doesn't want to chat.

>>528949046
not sure if its just ninja dungeon but my team is saving me from traps a shit ton more than they did in the dens

>>528953186
Surely they didn't buff all luck based effects across the board just to make ninjas look better right

Enemy ninjas are so much better than ours...

>>528948013
Does the designer have a fetish for glasses?

>bring lvl 1 shitter as sacrificial lamb for ninja test
>fucking ninjas keep doing aoe poison and killing it at awkward times

this is so fucking annoying

>>528953347
i won't complain if so

>>528948013
arr rook same

holyshit they improved the inventory screen so much
it was so fucking ass giving items to your team

>>528955193
Are you savouring it?

>>528955193
Just bring the shitter to Lv20 for a bit of bulk. At least you don't need to spend a tag.

Remember that you can equip gear on your fodder adventurer to make challenge easier

>Painted the map first
>No fort left to fight the chucklefuckers
I have nobody else to blame but myself

I only get my wiznews from reliable sources

>you don't need to fight Marin underwater for the hairpin, just at that one spot
Well, that helps a bit. You can also sudoku on the Water God Statue if she spawns in the wrong place.

>>528957734
>G O L D

>run into Ninja sentry by accident
>Single dude quite literally only spams DOTON on the lvl 20 shitter i brought

holy fucking shit how

>>528957276
Do you lose it ?

>>528958087
Shit, can't stack Marin's Hairpin if you get it twice. It has to be turned in right away.

>>528959540
How to get it once?

>>528962791
>Wheel to Arena Round 5 (Geuzen, Did NOT Strategize for Magical Beasts)
>Accept Rickert's Request with the Head Cook
>Talk with Head Cook
>check southwest room on Ship 2F
>if Marin isn't on X4,Y4, sudoku on Water God Statue and Accept death
>if Marin IS on X4,Y4, fight her there (you can reverse the Statue on X6,Y6 if you don't want to fight her underwater)
>after the fight, Marin's Hairpin will drop

>>528891234
its cool that theyre willing to try this kind of stuff in a gacha game
a real game would never do this

>>528965672
So she always drop on 44?

>>528967082
Yes, it HAS to be X4:Y4, no other location. The game actually cockteases X8:Y14 and X9:Y7 by making you think as long as YOU fight underwater it counts, but you're dead wrong. She needs to be on a tile that can flood, and X4:Y4 is the only spot that counts.

>>528966681
a real game would, a gacha game would never because its just asking to get angry people that didn't read

>>528966681
>a real game would never do this
In Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous in Lich path you have to sacrifice your love interest companion because turning into skeleton will destroy your balls and apparently strongest bonds makes strongest phylactery
But you are probably a gachafag that don't play real games in first place. Sad that it happens even to Daphne threads.

fuck you dwarf knigger

oh you get the tag
thats nice

Eldorado, my brother, we rarely seem to see each other anymore
I have heard of a new dungeon, made for duos
let us catch up there

man that whale adam from the other day would probably oneshot most of the ninjas in the boss fight

>>528966681
fire emblem sd had you sacrifice one of your units to save the rest of the party thoughbeit

saving all those tomes came in handy, this is about where I was hoping to be
now if only I had a kunai

>>528971838
That was early in the Prologue, and it also introduced a guy who's implied to be the canon bait. The reason you can't revive him later turns out to be because he actually survived that n the sequel's remake.

>>528972536
>The exp books will get even more useless going forward
They could start handing out purple books. But they won't.

>>528972536
>30
GRIM

>>528974071
GRIM?!
it unlocks all the skills except the ninja specific covert strike
having dissipation is great for the few places its needed
can always class swap for real content and level ninja on the kill 300 events anyway

So no ninja without guarda clear? fuck...

>>528922119
Didnt ask.

>>528974984
Wizardry is truly a game first and gacha second.
They lock all these cool features behind people progressing through story which will take people around 100 hours to get there. And shit ain't easy.

>>528955193
20 and slap on some +5 gear. You can spare 5k gold and a few ores

>>528974984
It's guarda clear, or true end clear?

>>528974984
Stop slacking. Do you want to play the new content (abyss4) or not

>>528976943
Likely any non-bad ending that allows you to start next abyss
So doesn't have to be true end, but still requires looping

>>528977147
I'm red on fort rn due to painting the map so i can't really go fight the boss and check it, but i'm on just good ending so i'll see if it needs true tomorrow

>>528977104
>Stop slacking. Do you want to play the new content (abyss4) or not
Sometimes i wonder how director feels about poor abyss3 completion rates
>make hard dungeon with bullshit bosses just to be hard for sake of hard
>no one but few autists play it

>New dungeon drops
>I go in with my day 1 farmed full 60 inherited team
>I get my shit kicked in and win by limping at the end with 4 people dead

Any day now i will have a clean victory and feel like my account is powerful... any day now...

>>528977590
0 or 5 casualties, a win is a win

In the Item Shop:
>Scroll of Rockfall 500G
>Scroll of Cascading Silence 1200G
>Scroll of Spectral Canopy 2500G
This little shit's been marking them up!

>>528977104
>>528977543
I'm just putting it off because I want 2 built priests before I fight doll

>>528979646
Whoops, forgot pic.

>>528966681
In Dragon Dogma, there is a choice which force you to choose to sacrifice a NPC with the highest level of intimacy (which often happens to be a random shopkeeper who you usually pawn goods to)

Where the HECK do I farm magical beings, I don't think I'll be able to get that 200 chests in the span of 5 days so I'll rather chance farming slimes and coins.

>>528980221
There's a lot of coins and slimes on the ninja hole, and insects too.

Whats the optimal way to farm the ninja dungeon
This shit fucking sucks with all the poison dogshit

>>528981162
you rike? we thought you hate cycrops...

They need to bring back the original Rinne dailies that gave you just ninja weapons, though preferably not the sword
Ninja MC has very little appeal with the 10 gorrillion XP and lack of easy access to dedicated weapons

>>528981008
For the sake of argument let's say I can't access ninaj hole, what are my other non-guarda related options.

>210 Evasion Rinne still gets hit

when is it going to end, how much more Evasino do you want from me

>>528981818
Fire den also has quite a lot of magic fuckers, including the mini-boss, so you can farm some ores and clear the pass.

So is there a more efficient exp farming way other than repelling enemy forces? 10m EXP on MC ninja is a fucking dream without the dispatch. I don't want to just leave it when i reach 30.

>>528982339
Farming gear is the most efficient exp farm, because you will be on that task forever

>>528981871
The solution is to spend millions on pure defence gear only to have your jugular slashed

>>528981871
Evasion is bricked in end game. I had a 202 evasion MC with Masolutu and Hiding buffed and the boss debuffed with Dilto and he literally got hit EVERY TURN the plant boss in the tower.

These days I just stack SUR and DEF.

>>528982871
>Stack surety
>More and more enemies becomes resistant to sure hits
Nothing personnel kiddo

>>528982965
Wait is crit resistance a stat in this game too?

>>528983183
Yeah, and GWO's have a fuck ton of it

>>528983183
It's even on character statsheet gwo
>>528982871
ATK stacking is current meta

>>528909814
90k gems since launch?
I just started a month ago and im already at 18k

>>528983247
>>528983278
wtf bros I wasted like 2 weeks farming SUR gear...

>>528968737
>just posted about something without thinking much
>got dog piled by anons for it
I'm sowwy...I probably meant something like along the lines of another type online service "real" games like mmos not letting you actually choose a dangerous option that bricks your progression
despite how harmless it is implemented in this game like permanently ashing your characters

>>528983471
I mean it's still works on anything that isn't the GWO's
Or the GWO's too after you get more than 50

>>528982871
>DEF
I thought it was already concluded early on in the game cycle that DEF basically does nothing as numbers get bigger...

>>528983725
You're thinking of VIT.

>>528983725
You can still stack enough DEF to overcome the numbers, but you are looking at 600-700 for it.

i dont even know what stats to look for on amy gear anymore...

>>528982339
>10m EXP on MC ninja is a fucking dream
anons ITT will hit 4.2m on 6 classes with MC and then say hitting 10m in 1 class is too much
like half the content is kill 300 enemies, what else are you doing? don't tell me you do those with a full lvl 60 party lmao

>>528980221
Chest are easy. Just go back in time and grab all chests in A1 or A2. Foedraig also is good for chests

>>528983994
I just do eva 120~ and stack atk maybe sur / acc if I get a decent roll
but I also have way of the knight and sanctuary blessing on my full party by this point
def won't save you from n***as

Goddammit, Marin can actually NOT be on the map after talking to the Head Cook. And this bitch robbed me when I asked her about Marin.

>>528984010
>4.2m on 6 classes
you fucking wish, most probably quit after getting most of the good passives/spells that aren't limited to the class
legitimately 50-60 is like 2+ mil xp, and most of the good or at least useful stuff is before this

>>528984426
>eva 120~
Meaningless the way formula works
It's just (eva-acc)% to evade, with hard caps at 5% and 95%
If enemy has 500 acc, you need at least 505 eva to start to improve your evasion chances, and at 595 eva you will be rewarded for your stacking with working as intended eva.

You lvl Ninja to 30 for Dissipation and bail out.
No point in going ninja with the insane Exp cost.

>>528984010
I hit 60 cap on my main party, then class swapped 4 of them and hit 60 again, all by hand, it's really not that bad
Not to mention getting thi,kni,fig on MC to 60 either, and i'm capped for quite a while.

>>528984816
Please do not bother farming Marin's bondmate to level 5, it's not worth it. Think of it more as fun alternative ending to the quest that you see maybe once if at all and leave it at that, it's just that miserable. Maybe if she gave extra MP or something useful but all she does is raise your Poison resistance and if we somehow reach a point where we will need it then I think we may have bigger things to worry about.

>>528985267
you get dissipation?
man rinne is a gigabrick now

>>528985267
Is 30 the same as 60

>>528984816
Fuck, it happened a second time!

>>528985869
I'd rather be prepared in case we get a nasty Crit Poison Abyss GWO, especially since rerolling it is so Fortitude-heavy.

>>528984010
I'm autistic enough to like number going up. I'm ready for ninja, it's just that shinobi cave put a number on me (and my party) mentally, especially limping back out without finding the exit path prior to the big fight.

>>528980221
I got 200 completing the Demons portion of the mission when I was farming the Lingering Scent waves.

>>528985267
I just sit on my low level classes when farming.

bringing my lvl 20 Rinne into ninja cave for the flavor
it is not that bad until the ninjas show up

>OH MASKETTA YAROU! YOU WAN REVIVE YOUR ALLIES? FACK YOU, I MOVE CAMERA SO YOU CAN NO CLICK!!!

Why are shin*bi like this?

>Milana: Don't let your guard down, numbskull!
Why is she so mean even at max trust? I love it.

PSA You can revert adventurers to their pre-quest appearances by tapping them several times in the training room. You blink and they turn back. Debra can be de-bimbo'd and Doctor can be un-boiled again.

>>528985869
I found a second spot! X15:Y20.
So her Bondmate is actually a 1/3 chance (3 duds, 2 flooded spots, 1 chance of NOT FUCKING SPAWNING).

>>528989078
Why would anyone do this for *checks wiki* Poison Tolerance?

>>528989223
Honestly, I did this to further prove to John Drecom that there's too much RNG for this Bondmate shit.

Literally where do you go in this event
I drop down I go back up I end up in some shit on the other side of floor 2 I have nowhere to go
WTF

Newfag here, is there any way to get character exclusive gear like Livana's Twin moon axe, Rinne's Red Camellia or Blood Red Shinobi Attire without doing purple bones or gacha point exchange? Or is that the only way to get character exclusive gear?

>>528989078
>>528989505
I spoke too soon. Apparently she DOESN'T drop the hairpin in that spot? It shouldn't be because I fought her without water. Maybe the water needs to fully rise before her death event plays out (I hit Skip to test this)? I'll slow it down the next time I fight her there.

>>528989817
Only through exchange as f2p (big gamble, not worth 95% of the time, big investment)
Only using purple bones (only with purple gems, paid only, expensive)

The reality is that you don't need those special gear, most of them just plain suck unless you get godly lucky. And even then you can't max them out since you need dupes (extreme whale territory)
But yeah it kind of sucks but only a very select few of them are good.

>>528989817
Those are the only two ways. With Old Castle Ruins, it's literally P2Win gear.

>>528989817
Getting only one copy of that gear sucks absolute ass with very rare exceptions and you aren't supposed to worry about it at all as a non-whale.

>>528990075
>>528990105
>>528990156
I see, I'll keep that in mind then. I ended up getting lucky with livana because I bought her exclusive pass so I got her axe too. I was worried since I got rinne but no dagger but it seems like having it wont really be necessary since im not going ultra whale on this game. Thanks for the info anons.

I can't hit the the last guy in ninja trials...

>>528989992
Nope, the game says it doesn't count. Fuck you, game.

>>528990757
Bwo your Batilgref, Macaldia, Heavy attacks, Precision attacks?

Reconfirming that nameless adventures can't be sacrificed for the NIN trial per anon's observation earlier, I geared up a dwarf-kni just for this (unnecessary to actually gear them up, just swap your MC to Knight if you have that leveled and put your sacrifice in the back, there's a fountain near the end so you can go all out with heavy striking your way asap to end fights).

after the final confirmation, the dude just tells you to go back home because your "bond is too powerful", which I presumably isn't intended since nameless adventurers have no bonds to begin with. Also as a bonus, you're left with a dead body and having to foot the bill on reviving them

᠏᠏ ᠏

>>528992805
>NIN trial

>>528992805
When it says "Your bond is too strong" he also mentions theres like some sort of lock.
Which is just fancy words to point out you need to actually go and remove the Lock on your character you want to sacrifice. Thats it.