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>>528773848
Can you switch in-out and back from Froglover Ult without losing the Ult? If yes, you can probably just quickswap the shit out of it
>>528890170the fuck is that ugly piece of shit
>>528890170Finally, a shield user after Zani!
>can't roll lupa since she needs brant
>can't roll frog since she needs cantarella
FUCK guess i'll wait till the roman bitches
>>528890170She truly is Ishtar
and given the rules of Fate and how it works, she might actually be Ishtar
Just saw the leaks, I guess WUWON again.
>>528890187You don't even need to switch back. Hecate's attacks would depend on whether your on field character hits with basic, skill or ult
Why does zzz get all the lolis and we don't?
>>528889892 (OP)Aaaaaaaaand *skips*
>>528890545The only reason I'm still playing wuwa. The AIslop-tier writing isn't worth wasting time on otherwise
is there still time? can i still roll?
Just saw the leaks
Ugly Cia LOST
Phrolo WON
>>528890945stop posting slop
>Jinny lost both canta and painter girl
It's actually over for her....
>>528891069Just use her with Changli or whoever.
Looks like BASED Carlotta was the last F2P friendly unit of this game that doesnt need to be forced in certain teams (she loves zhezhi tho).
Im glad that I got her S2 and married her irl.
so uhhh... who can I slot in with Canty and Frog if I don't have Roco?
>>528891125>NEEDS Jeji, the ugliest girl in the game
>>528891069She will get her dedicated support (male, because you fags love having males in your teams) later.
>>528891183Shorekeeper? Verina?
>>528890945Her design is too sexual.
augusta..... pls be self reliant....
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>>528891187She can use Lumi instead
>>528890945Her design isn't sexual enough.
>>528891351>1 Month later>"Hmm turns out you NEED Lupa or you lose 40% of DPS"AAAAIIEEEEEE
>>528891187Thats the point, she works with ugly girls that can't steal his husband (me)
>>528891497You meant Iuno?
>>528891351anon that era of wuwa is over, it's time to accept the new normal
>>528891123>changlilupa needs her, anon and her team will mog jinny as well. Jinny is becoming a yinlin 2.0....
S6 Cartwheel is literally all you NEED
>>528891642And how much money does that cost?
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>>528891183Can also use Danjin if no SK and Verins is busy
Guys, I don't think Phrolova has enough sexy fanservice to roll... she's looking like a skip to me...
>>528891497Nah Augusta is electro so there's no way for her to benefit from Lupa. Lupe will be NEEDED for whoever the next fusion carry is, like Galbrena maybe. desu Lupa's buffs are generic enough that she should be good for just about any fusion character that doesn't rely on something super specific like echo skills or the fusion debuff.
Wow... Hecate and Phrolova sure are close huh...?
H-how low can we go
how low can we go
Imagine Rococo smashing on your dick full speed saying "YeS!" just like she does with the TDs!
So in 2.5 you can get Frog and her full team in a single patch?
You NEEDpost cantarella because you're a shitposter
I NEEDpost cantarella because I lost the 50/50
We are not the same
>>528891834Augusta being electro is the most braindead baffling decision this company has made so far
>>528891183Frog + Cantarella + SK will be the actual premium team in tower. Cantarella cant sustain the whole team with her small heals if you use rococo
When you're in bed with Phrolova, would you let her summon Hecate to let her peg you?
>>528891125When is she coming back, I need her so I can skip ALL DAMAGE OVER TIME CHARACTERS until Salon makes self relient characters again.
>>528891837Cartethyia NEEDS her husband
>like wuwa because you don't NEED units
>2.3 arrives
>you now suddenly NEED units for other units to work
they got us in the long run, huh
Is Carlotta even capable of giving a satisfying titty job?
>>528892281yeah this game is fucked
>>528892340Better out than in I always say!
Since I am going to need Brant for Lupa and Cantarella and Roccia for Phrolova I might just be able to scrape by with my current savings. But what about their weapons? Can I get by with 4* weapons for them instead of their signature weapons?
>>528892453Brant is bait, Galbrena will be bis for Lupa
b-bros it's not fair. I shit posted needing cia, but end up skipping both of them anyway for the frog, but I NEED canta for her now? no....
>>528892571Canta is ugly with her mole, if Phrolova needs Cantarel then Phrolova is a skip for me
>>528891758Just save since the beginning of Rinascita, la
So why are they killing the game with this NEED shit for?
>>528892571just skip her and shitpost canta like the rest of the shitpost society (i'm one of the elite members)
You NEED Changli for Lupa, you NEED Lupa for Brant, you NEED Brant for Changli.
>>528892571I got Cia and Carty and I'm gonna get the frog too. I don't have Cantarella and I don't have Roccia and I don't care.
>>528892738something something hoyo something something
>>528892885Nico nico NEED!
do we have a kit leak yet
>watch sanhua be better than roccia in a sanhua canta phrolova team
>have canty and changli cuz I love big titty ara ara types
>no brant or rococo
I have shorky so it's not that bad but fuck I'm gonna have to start building verina huh...
>>528892997Anon, stop or you'll make the roccia fags hang themselves because they would have to s2 to be better than sanhua.
Team building feels bad right now because the launch 4* niches are filled, then Kuro dropped the ball by releasing two back-to-back 4* bricks that fill zero niches that are needed right now. Imagine if Youho's luck draw counted as an echo skill, or Lumi (word that stands for light) was spectro and inflicted frazzle.
>>528893179Protip: Just build her nodes to 6/10
>>528892885If you NEED a male for a character then it's automatically bin.
I have a bad feeling frog banner is gonna do badly
Ever get to the point where you've pulled too many characters and you feel like you hardly ever use them?
>>528892885I know we're memeing but if Kuro does keep pushing NEED I might have to quit because I really don't want to spend money on pulls.
I can't win against Brant/Lupa/Cia in a card games, it's rover for me.
>>528893432there's nothing wrong with men xis, love yourself <3
>>528893442depends on how end of beta will be like. She may get buffs or actual gameplay changes.
>>528893432All female characters NEED male Rover's cock.
>>528893432Just transition already you retarded troon.
>>528893432Good, I love males, they are better and more fun than a girls.
>chisa will need a male support
Your reaction?
>>528893442Lupa is going to crash and burn. But I think Frog might do similar to Cantarella's numbers.
>>528893840This support will be electro Rover so I'm fine with it.
Main roles for now :
Main Damage Dealer
Resonance Skill DMG
Havoc Amp
Heavy Attack Amp
Fit nicely with Cantarella and Roccia
Based on current info, other options to buff Phrolova than Cantarella are Taoqi, Zhezhi, Brant, Lumi
Heavy attackers that can benefit from Heavy buff are Jiyan, Jianxin, Zani. Feebs can benefit a little too but probably too janky
>>528892571NEED karma strikes back
Rerunning roccia in the first half and cantarella in the second half of 2.5
>we're really hurting for money please pull all of the new team premium pieces
how low can they fucking go
>>528893926>Heavy Attack Amprunning anything other than rococo is gonna feel like straight up ass
>>528893926Forgot Danjin. Looking forward to playing Danjin Taoqi Frog team
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YOU NEED THEM
>>528893847Cantarella was a flop though..
If you skip a needed teammate, that means you'd have saved enough for a sequence node. Plus the two you should afford from corals, that should make the brick you love and saved for viable.
>>528893926Seems like a Nightmare Hecate with new echo set.
So probably no coordinated attack this time.
Guess Phrolova Jinhsi will not be an option sadly
>>528893983Flopethyia flopped pretty hard
why didn't they give cantarella this womenlet kit she brute force everything and comfy to play
>>528893840Sneed and Feed her
>>528893840And this is her support character.
>>528893840tags: ugly bastard, NTR
>>528894220>Smiles at you
I feel like Im watching the game die
this is my first gacha, do they all have this period where you can see the downward curve like this? do you just have to hope they start reversing some decisions?
>>528894175For this game she did well, people are just too brain damaged from all the retarded cc's in the community and thinks we should be doing HSR/Genshin/LaDs numbers all the time because this is the ichiban gacha.
>>528894303That would be funny. Sadly, 99% of male gacha characters looks like homosexuals.
I would roll for a mutenroshi character.
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SNIFF
Tectone got banned again! Why is he the face of WuWa when he can't stop harassing others for 5 seconds?
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>>528894509You can thank all CCs for posting videos like this and then going like
>No but it's fine you can achieve somewhat similiar performance without any of the pieces>X character is perfectly viable with no weapon and no teammates pull pull pullRetards buy into it and Kuro keeps pushing this forced team shit
>>528894619she is quite literally in the bottom half of sales
I'm supposed to roll for more than 1 character in this game? How ridiculous
The only Chisa question I care about:
>Will she have Fleur panties?
>Will she have black void spats?
>>528894968You need 3 specific characters from across several months
otherwise you can kiss 40% of damage goodbye
>>528894509it's been kinda weird, when I started in 2.0 it was like a cult never seen a dev get glazed so much before. gonna try and hold out until 2.x finishes but if the rest of the characters have comps/kits that are unnecessarily restricted I'm out
I will gave them 100 bucks a month if they get rid of the stupid 50/50 pity
Fuck 'em greedy faggot ass asian jews with that bullshit
>>528895092Don't forget their weapons. Characters NEED their signature weapons otherwise there is another 20-50 % damage gone.
No one actually believes NEED posting, right?
>>528895092No, thak you, I'm going back to Genshin Impact then
>>528890170Huh, it really is a bow
We were supposed to mog Genshin this month......
So is Phrolova set a 3-piece or a 5-piece? The leakers keep flip-flopping
>>528890170>Iuno is glacioMakes a lot of sense seeing as Carlittle is being neglected.
>>528890170Iuno gonna float and shoot arrows using that weapon
>>528894853Unrelated but I always hated his voice, if I had to describe it, it would be a "heh I can't belive this sucker is falling for this" type of voice.
Astrologists report this year will be a year of a Tiger.
>Frog buffs heavy attack
So Rococo needs Frog while Frog needs Canty
>>528895293I ignored the NEED posting for Zani and now she sits in my account with a ton of resources wasted on her unused for over a month because of how bad she feels to play. I ignored the NEED posting for Carthy and now my Carthy feels like absolute shit to play not to mention that her damage is atrocious because I don't have enough to get her signature. I didn't believe, but now I believe the NEED posting.
>>528895725Hoyoverse isn't sending a verification code to my cockli email for some reason =(
>>528895864That buff is for Danjin, actually
Frog NEEDS Cantarella, Cantarella NEEDS Rococo, Rococo NEEDS Frog.
>if you go to cantarella castle exactly at 15:00 you can have a tea with her.
HOLY FUCKING KINOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>528896030What about Cammy?
>>528896030The circle of NEED
The desperation in trying to make people pull for Roccia by giving Frog a tailor made outro
>So roccia didn't make target numbers since she was barely an improvement over Sanhua
>don't worry we have a plan
and you people think Galbrena is going to replace Brant? With this company and their direction?
I can't wait for all the new gachas to actually come out so Kuro is forced to take matters in their hand when their revenue approaches ToF levels.
ENOUGH. NO MORE FLOATY WHORES
>leaks usually correlate to an IOS chart increase if they are good
>not only has the IOS chart not increased, it's actually decreased to 84
oh...
were the NEED posters right?
>>528896139CAMMY NEEDS SANHUA
>Like a character
>I have to run them with at least a character I straight up dislike if I want to get proper damage, if I'm REALLY unlucky I have to run them with two characters I dislike
This is killing my enjoyment
>>528894034She still have Havoc Amp so you could still consider Danjin, Hrover, Taoqi in a no healer F2P team. Or forget about Phrolo buffs and just go regular Shokie/Verina - Sub DPS/Skill Amp - Phrolo. Or quickswap though it will depend on how quickswapable Phrolo will be
>>528896596Same, mostly because the characters I dislike are moley characcters and the characters I do like need them.
>>528896596You will use ugly hags and males and you'll like it.
>>528896596Would have been fine if there were 4* star alternatives, like Sanuha being an alternative to Roccia. But that is apparently too player friendly for Kuro all the new mechanics will be locked to limited 5* only.
Is need posting the only thing these doomposting retards have left? Frolo is useful thanks to her heavy attack buffs she provides or am I missing something here.
>>528893926Nice, twintailed characters should run together:
>jinny zhezhi>camellya roccia>lupa encore>phrolova roccia>verina anywhere
I think we can all agree that the devs got greedy and killed the game
>>528897092NEED status? Does Augusta NEED Iuno?
>>528897092I was hoping Iuno would be the electro resonator...
>>528897092WHY is she electro
safe skip for me.
these greedy devs are making new characters feel like absolute fucking shit to play as without their supports. Fucking RIP zani/cart
>>528895564It very clearly shows 3-piece in the video showing the new echo shorting system
>>528897154Yes, somehow at 1.0 you didn't need to match outro in stuff like yinlin xiangli yao or jinhsi zhezhi. I like zhezhi, but I respect people who skipped her because they find her ugly but still liked using jinny.
>>528897092>Heavy AttackAugusta - Phrolo team is a thing
>>528897092>>528897309Augusta & Iuno Info
-# โป Subject to change.
Iuno's bis is augusta
Iuno is Augusta's most comfortable teammate (almost like Carte+Cia, Zani+Peeb), they're not forced to be played together
There will be a substitue teammate in the first phase
Iuno's attacks restore hp (like cantarella)
augusta's materials comes from the new weekly boss in 2.6
Iuno's role is a bit confusing right now: sometimes she can deal dmg, sometimes she can heal, sometimes she's like phoebe with dual stance/forms.
Augusta has Similar playstyle as Bianca: Stigmata from PGR
via N, TL remmie
You faggots never complained when it was zani/peebs.
Now you will get male NEEDS and you'll like it.
>>528897323She's electro because SUNLIGHT SPEARS.
>>528897323Maybe becasue the last 5 star electro was 10 months ago??
>>528896234>So roccia didn't make target numbers since she was barely an improvement over Sanhuajust s2 her bro
>>528897092yinlin bros.....
>>528897532Yeah just waiting for 2.5 got them 800 pulls ready to build the new havoc echo team
I'm so happy kuro reruns them all at once
I had to ask my wife's boyfriend for a little loan but he's such a nice guy he said it's ok
>>528897496>Iuno is Augusta's most comfortable teammate (almost like Carte+Cia, Zani+Peeb), they're not forced to be played togetherThis is WuWa's future isn't it? Fuck everyone that lied about how f2p-friendly WuWa is.
>>528897496>Iuno is Augusta's most comfortable teammate (almost like Carte+Cia)Great
you now have to roll two characters to get their normal damage
>>528897092>>528897496Aaaaaand another NEEDS character.
You phoebe + zani faggots killed this game boosting the sales.
This is your fuking fault.
>>528897867alright now shut the fuck up
>>528891960Yep you need them
>>528897936Nooo stop noticing!
>>528897496Need to see the screenshot before I believe this.
What the fuck are they thinking?
>>528891960You got a roccia rerun every 3 months, there is no excuse.
>>528896596>>528897496ahhhh I'm NOOOOTICING a pattern here
>>528893847>Lupa is going to crash and burnwhat makes you think this
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>NEED
>>528893442All the people who dick rolled Canta will get frog to use her
>>528897496>Iuno's role is a bit confusing right now: sometimes she can deal dmg, sometimes she can heal, sometimes she's like phoebe with dual stance/forms.dont brick her please
>>528898412I start to like Cammy nowadays, this mental instability thing is kinda hot.
>>528893926My wife is a main DPS
Players voted with their money. Now enjoy yurislop, characters that don't work without each other and one mandatory male character in most teams.
There's no one to blame but you.
>>528898480Considering she sold worse than ciaflop, I guess hardly anyone will get to.
>>528897508why are you lying?
>>528897496>Iuno's bis is augustaThat sucks if true. Make Iuno at least a generalist support like shorekeeper you hacks, I don't want Augustaslop
Why would an Electro character NEED an Aero character
>>528898560>Earlier threads shitposting about her practically fitting only in one premium team.>Has plenty of options.A tale as old as time...
And then Augusta will come out and solo everything with S0R0 and folks will say it doesn't count for one reason or another and then they will continue to scream "NEEEEEED Iuno" until the baitposting doesn't work anymore and then the cycle will repeat with Chisa...
I'm ready for the next four months of threads.
>>528898968ELECTRIC THUNDERSTORM!
>echo auto-lock/auto-discard
Finally, my number 1 requested feature. This already makes 2.5 great for me.
>>528897521And Yinlin is one of the worst characters in the game.
They should get rid of electro. It serves no purpose other than to dilute everything else.
>>528897496We already have one Bianca. In fact, one shitty Bianca was already too much, hope Augusta isn't the same.
>>528899056>Has plenty of optionsSure does. Mind listing them out?
Plenty of reason to run a 25% heavy attack buffer for Jiyan instead of Mortefi's 38%.
and then uhhhhhhhhhhh
her premium team.
are you retarded
>>528898968PARTICLE STYLE
> You NEED this, you NEED that
after Zani - Carte situation I knew Kudog went full greedy and trying to squeeze /ww/ as much as possible before it collapse to fund their ayy lmao new project just like what they done with PGR
>they keep doing it with Frog and likely Augusta also
It just sad at this point why every game I start to play went straight to shit like that - am I fucking cursed or what
>>528899225Also 3 pieces set is also fantastic if they become more common, they'll allow for stuff like using an off-set healing echo as primary and still getting set benefits.
>>528897496Augusta and Iuno are made to be played together to the surprise of no one, it was funny watching you retards denying this obvious fact after 2 clear examples back to back.
Have you noticed Kuro hasnt made a survey since 2.3 to see what their players wants? They don't give a shit about what (you) think- they know people will complain about the NEEDshit and be more vocal about it if they open a survey.
I can't believe Jinny lost again.
>>528897496Where is the source for that?
>the worst /wuwa/ has to worry about is the existence of bis supports
you guys have no idea how good we have it compared to the rest
>>528899075>characters being designed to only use all of their kit with one or two specific characters is fine as long as you can clear endgame!
Phrolova won
You are malding
>>528899829>Baizhi poster not retarded for oncewha....
I guess they have new material to concern about for a few more weeks. Must be sad to be a poorpag.
>>528900036I'm malding because her ult doesn't do coordinated attacks so she's useless for my worthless Jinny
>you NEED sig weapons
>now you NEED supports and their sig weapons too otherwise you have to make your rotations feel clunky as fuck
fuck this game
If you don't already have Cantarella, you are a HOMO
>>528898820What's the point, you gonna admit to being a retard if I cared to dredge up posts about people complaining about Zani relying on Phoebe?
It's just such an obvious lie/mistake for anyone with functional memories of the anniversary
Where is the PvP gameplay?
>>528900097why are you trashing on your own? you only have enough for 1 copy
>/wuwa/ dooming over more characters being a Zani/Phoebe situation
>reddit is absolutely praising it
If you are wondering why they will never stop doing it, this is why.
Reminder that you canonically use Cantarellaโs marriage sword so legally within Rinascita you are hers
you know this game is fucked when they're trying to collab with dogshit people don't care about anymore like cyberpunk probably because it's the only thing they can afford to collab with lmao
is there a way to differentiate between s0 and s1 carthy without opening the char menu?
there's some buff over her hp but i dont know if that's s1.
>>528900358The sword is actually made up of your bond with Cartethyia
Is it the end of "every character is good"?
Are we gonna have to tell people to avoid pulling for their favorites because they need another character to function?
Skill issue
you have to pick and choose between what teams to go for as f2p, rather than trying to do everything at once
>>528900175The people who complained were all shit taste retards who prefer Zani over Phoebe so it doesn't count.
Does GFL2 have NEED slop?
>>528900097>Its not a greedy jew practice because im spending money!Thank you for proving you're only defending this shit due to your sunk cost fallacy.
Please Kuro make 3teams next i want to see whos retarded enough to still defend it.
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So the onfield option has you playing Hecate and dodging attacks
>Or you swap to canta who does 4 echo skill casts in her rotation triggering a 500% MV attack everytime
ok lol
>>528900363>dogshit people don't care about anymore like cyberpunkwhy are you gacha fags so retarded?
>>528900363yea they should've paid Yoko Taro $10 and a gravure mag for a Nier collab instead
>>528900426Rover uses Blood Pact as his sig in normal combat
>>528899267 General jinfag flop banner almost killed wuwa during release, Yinlin saved us from the EoS timeline
>>528900607That's the sword she's talking about
>>528900558>*sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrpppppppp*
>>528900483Not really?
>Put all the burn niggas on the same team>Put all the corrosion niggas on the same team
>>528900532I wanna play frog main thoughโฆ
>>528900532roccia+another teammate works too. Since roccia's tornado box counts as an echo skill
>>528897309she's obviously hydro
you will need both for the perfect electro charged team
>shill tower immediately becomes anti shill tower for previous patch's main DPS
fuck this game LOL
>revenue spamming didn't work so now ZZZpags are crying about cyberpunk instead
Their jealousy is showing so much lately
>>528900671No you have an echo sword when using aero power thatโs her sword
>>528900363isnt cyberpunk getting a new anime and just released on switch 2?
>>528889892 (OP)Guys please what echoes set does this Romanian girl use
>>528900313The big difference with those places, like reddit/youtube/twitter/4+4 and this place is that the in said places the majority actually play the game, meanwhile this general is 95% composed of hoyodrone brownoids that never played the game and with too much time.
>>528900494soonโข anon, soon
>You NEED her S3 to be good>You NEED her sup dps S2 to be usable>You NEED her healer S4 to not die in combatJust like my Kusogook MMORPG with +20 endgame gear gatekeeping lmao
>>528900938I play the game and zani feels like absolute fucking DOGSHIT without phoebe, same with cart without cia because you have to waste time and switch back to cart form to get more stacks before you ult with fleur
I dunno, man
Characters pairing up with each other kinda seems like a great way to postpone outright big numbers powercreep - still got the incentive to pull without it taking a giant dump on older characters
seems kinda nice to me
>>528900532Welp, i was defending them because lol Cantarella gives Havoc amp/Skill with her outro to buff Frogger big deal- but this is a straight up NEEDshit mechanic
>>528900735yeah good luck with that
>>528900782yes since she has 6 notes the intended rotation seems to be
>roccia for tornado + echo (2)>into canta full rotation + echo (4)>trigger final burst>build notes, ult, repeatwithout roccia I assume you can do one b123 combo and trigger 1 enhanced heavy with hecate on field (1)
sanhua rotation + echo (2)
into canta (4)
napkin math but playing frog on field vs off field with canta is really looking like double the dps difference
>>528900782Plus regular echoes that have short cooldowns or multiple uses like nightmare crownless. I wouldn't be surprised if camellya roccia cantarella is the strongest team (but with no healing) especially since cantarella's outro will not matter for off-field hecate.
>>528901021>Because you have to spend 1 second as Cart in the Fleur rotation>Nothing else is changed???
>>528901007with frog's patch because you NEED her now
>>528901072except there's no need to pull for the new DPS shitters if you aren't planning on pulling for their support or weapons since they're worse than the old DPS units without them
>>528901007No reruns. Roll every new support/subdps in case you'll need them for some future character.
>>528901097echoes with the same name only count as 1
Been like for that echo cast tower shill buffs too.
>>528901142>1 seconddisingenuous cocksucker, how long do cart's normals take? don't fucking lie
>>528901171Too bad. But so wouldn't that mean that cantarella only has 2 besides the echo?
>>528901072The problem is making characters shit by themselves and requiring more units to be usable. Jinny is a good unit by her self and she use to have 2 supports and sub-dps(changli) as her option, but lupa and the frog take away all her supports and do nearly twice her dmg with it.
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>>528901097they will not count
also all hecate's damage even off field counts as frog damage so it is indeed buffed by cantarella
>>528901285yeah cantarella only triggers 2+1
>>528901283I have a poor sense of time, but switching to Cart never felt like it was taking too long.
WHAT DO I NEED?
WHAT DO I WANT?
AND WHEN DO I WANT IT?
Needshit unironically doomed this game, fuck these greedy ass devs
genuinely don't know who the fuck ima roll for
>lupa is a brick
>augusta is electro
>Iuno needs augusta
>phorolenovo is another havoc wank
maybe Qiuyuan mite b cool
>other games
>4 characters
>Rampant powercreep
>Need full team or you get fucked
>Need weapon + 1/2 dupe or you get fucked
>It's ok
>Wuwa
>3 characters
>Stable meta
>Need 1 teammate or your rotation is more clunky
>Weapon are a nice bonus, dupe are optional and you can buy 2 from shop
>It's bad
>>528901285>>528901394Canta mirage skill, enhanced forte nuke and liberation are all echo skills
and then you have her normal echo
it's 4
>>528892281This all started with Phoebe and Brant in 2.1 when they were clearly designed to be NEEDED by other units in the future. Remember the only reason Lupa doesnโt need shields anymore was because we learned about it in time to scare them from doing it.
>>528890170>Literally Fume UGS>After stealing Maliketh's Blade for Lupawhat's next? Whirligig Saw?
nice knock-off game you have here
If you care this much about 1 character, it kinda seems like a personal failure to not save up for that character's teammate.
Saving for TWO characters, is not that much
>>528901810Okay, but that would actually be sick, though.
>>528901664You don't NEED characters AND their weapons in other game to clear abyss, meanwhile in this shit game if I don't have their weapon or support and decent echoes, I can't fucking clear ToA
>>528901593>Iuno needs augustaFirst time an Aero unit needs an Electro unit. You sure you're not shitposting for the sake of shitposting?
>>528901845>/wuwa/ got so bad that now ie sloppa spam is herenyo....
>>528901072But we are getting powercreep anyway. Carthy is the highest dps character in the game currently by a large margin, provided you have Cia.
>>528901926Retard-Sama...
>>528901845based enemies to lovers yuri
>>528902004meanwhile the last sentinel resonator we got is pretty much wuwa's eula, if you don't crit you reset.
>>528901926Skill issue or bait call it
>>528902004zani phoebe is still better
>>528901827>if you care this much about this character you should pull for the teammateits no longer a damage issue (carlotta-jeji)
its a character not playing as it should issue
being forced to pull and play characters you don't like to fix inherent design "issues" or play alternative rotations is bad and i don't know how you fucks keep defending it
you are really a dumbfuck if you keep downplaying the problem
>>528901750>Remember the only reason Lupa doesnโt need shields anymore was because we learned about it in time to scare them from doing it.I actually don't remember that... Probably wasnt in that thread.
>>528901664You forgot to mention that other games feature 4* characters that can be substituted if the bis character is missing, something WuWa does not have. Either you get the bis character or your newly rolled character is a brick.
>>528902004But then you get jinny dedicated support and she gets back on the same level. But now you NEED support even though you have been playing jinny fine before.
>>528901664I don't know about wuwa weapons being a "nice bonus", I kinda feel like we're supposed to get them
at least for the characters that got poor f2p options, which are the majority
>>528902120>skill issue>when it's just a fucking number game + can you remember your rotations
carlitty really was the last well designed character huh...
>>528902164It's actually just a damage issue though...
What does erosion do for Carty? Damage.
What do echoes do for Phrolova? Damage.
What does frazzle do for Zani? Who cares, I don't like Zani. It's probably damage though.
feel free to prove me wrong.
>>528902350It is and it's not even close really
>>528902170It didn't happen, it was literally fanfiction about her kit (people saw the hp variation set leak, thought it was lupa, imagined she was fusion danjin and would need a shield).
>all these cantarellalets
Lol you people are gayy
This whole time I thought this general was the most boring because how hard you all circlejerk about how much of a gigachad you are 24/7 with all the girls yet you donโt have the hottest one
>>528902110>wuwa's eula,anon....don't jinx the jinny bros
>>528902164I would never have this problem, because I save rolls for the characters I care about
I'm not downplaying any kind of problem - I am telling you how I go about solving
>>528902359According to NEED posters you'd need zhezhi.
>>528902120I'm pretty sure it's been bait all day. It's just been non-stop schizoposting about every single character being a brick without having access to (X)
Guys, I think I just had a scientific breakthrough.
>if you keep skipping characters because they need two specific teammates, eventually you'll be able to afford 3 characters
...we're going to hit sub 100, aren't we
>>528902531but I have cantarelly
I'm mad because I apparently need rococo too
>>5289022154 star in wuwa are good, carty can work with sanhua, you dont even play the game retard
>>528902605unlike zani, carty, and frog her BiS teammates don't improve how she actually plays, just adds numbers
nice false equivalency though
Seems like people really want teams to consist of any 3 random characters poured into a blender, and have it be a homogenized mush doing the same damages and never be reliant character interaction or synergies
>>528902678needshit killed the game, devs got too cocky
>>528902231Jinny's "problem" is a damage problem due to lack of proper support from a coord attacker with spectro buffs, her kit works perfectly fine even if you're using "bricks" like Yuanwu, its not the same like Zani without Phoebe in which she literally doesn't work get it to your stupid thick skull.
This kills the doomposters/hoyoslurpers
https://x.com/4gamernews/status/1938024448080417221?s=46
>GAPTCHA : PVSYY
I would have preferred an actual card game instead of an autobattler masquerading as one.
>>528902531The ugliest one you mean. You sound like someone who's enjoying expired food too.
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You pulled roccio right?
With her weapon right?
You are not peroless right?
>>528901664I don't know if you're talking about Genshin but there's rarely a NEED for anything. Team variety is really high, there's a huge amount of 4* that can function and it's not so much characters that limit who you can bring but rather the encounter design that favors one playstyle/element/character over another.
How often do you build a team around a specific gimmick an enemy has in wuwa?
>>528902914I would prefer a full autobattlers/autochess and just get rid of the card game
>>528902376Cart is probably the least offender all things considered - if you don't swap back because teammate you do lose on damage and that's it
>her rotation does change and has you swap back and forth if you want to upkeep it thoughPhrolova seems to be actual dogshit to play on field. You control Hecate and use him as an actual character, b123 into heavy or dodge into heavy.
If you swap off any echo cast from other on field characters trigger his big nuke. We're at the point when playing the character you pulled for on field is a damage loss.
For Zani frazzle allows her to do more swings in her Liberation state. The rover rotation requires more swaps and far better play to get 2 full basic attack chains in compared to Phoebe.
If you run neither she just doesn't work, she only generates 10 forte with her skill and she needs atleast 90 to work properly.
>hurrr you can just sum it up as damageCarlotta plays the exact same, Zhezhi or not. You learn one rotation, you play the character, you don't have to adapt to any of this bullshit.
>>528902709just like zani with rover :D, stfu faggot.
>can't even fix zani's issues if you pull for her dupes if you don't have peebs
lol fuck this game
>>528901321>Jinny is a good unit by her selfNo she isn't you ESL cocksucker. Her kit literally revolves around building forte with coordinated attacks.
>Cantarella
Solon, delete this woman's pussy!
>>528902904>thread has been suspiciously absent of hoyoposters>UHH LOOK, HERE'S A CHARTnice hoyoshit falseflag.
>>528902874Yes. Just one ubermensch team archetype, and you can swap in characters you like as if they're skins please.
>>528902962right I forgot those characters can get their respective stacks that they need at S0 at the same speed without their BiS and you don't have to change your rotation at all
>>528902828But isn't it literally just more dmg? It doesn't change rotations just like playing jinny is the same with or without coordinated attackers.
people just want complete kits at s0, is that hard to understand for you fucking shameless slurpers? I don't want to roll for another fucking character I don't give a shit about just to make the character I do give a shit about to work.
I am the stingiest cheapest f2 fucker you'd ever find
and I have zero problems with the way characters are being designed in this game
Planning out what characters to go for, what teams to make. That's my favorite part of gachas
>>528903132>thread has been suspiciously absent of hoyopostersthats because their next outfits got CCP censored.
>>528903316>planning is the best part of gachasfucking slurpers lmao, I swear to god
>>528902928I rolled cantarella and her jelly weapon
I rolled roccia and her mask weapon
It is extremely funny watching half the general run around like a headless chicken after skipping TWO 5* limited havoc supports and crying about not being able to field the best havoc team for their havoc frogwife.
>>528903273If you don't like it, play something else.
>>528903082>Elves have no nips of coochieI knew something was off...
Why are people saying the loli is good now?
>>528902250Signature weapons are by no means a nice bonus, they are pretty much mandatory. 4* weapons other than Variation are absolute crap. The standard 5* weapons are also quite bad on a lot of characters, particularly on the newly released ones.
FRover is such a tummyslut
I need more pictures of FRover's midriff
>>528903481sure, keep bleeding players
Hoyoslurpers are sperging out because their dogshit outfit got censored
>>528903481I will if they don't fix this by 3.0 dont worry.
>>528903454Am I making some kind of mistake by enjoying the game as it is?
>>528903481>wuwa fags are now acting/becoming like jenshite fagsIt's over...
>>528903481Many people don't like it. Keep defending this shit and you'll be the only one in this thread arguing with angelo pajeets talking about sales and how wuwa's latest banner barely pulled in 1 million
>>528903031>claim Jinhsi is a good solo unit like a retarded shitposting tourist>"b-but read this other shitpost I made!!!"
did something happen in their game? they seem extremely rabid today
>>528903578I find it funny that Guardian Sword is quite a bit ahead of some of the 4* options for Cart.
>>528896182I'll be demanding a circle of NEED for Jinhsi in the surveys until Kuro delivers.
>>528903615>Swimsuit gets adjusted>But raccoon buddy won't cover her ass with his tail anymoreTruly a monkey's paw...
>>528903615zoulless zenzored zlop keeps losing
they also lost out on the cyberpunk collab and are butthurt about it lol
>>528903273You're right, the other 2 characters on team shouldn't matter
I should be able to play whatever characters I want and have all my teams do the same things regardless of who are on them
>>528903316I'm f2p as well and I think that's shit.
All these gachas start as as "roll for who you like" and a year later it's "if you like her you NEED to roll for this one first"
Like holy shit I hate that Ciaccona is tied to Carthe, I pulled both but god damnit they have nothing in common story wise, they don't fit thematically, what is this shit.
>>528903615KEK
Tencent connections saved our skins, nice
It's been speculated that Phrolova will pair best with Cantarella and Roccia for at least 2 months
Why are you having a "melty" now??
>>528903721>Many people don't like itSo what? Many people do.
>>528903720The difference is after carty we're making alot of money so a few upset hoyotards leaving is fine.
>>528903669>b-by 3.0!don't even bother, you're hooked. As you should be.
>>528903612Most sales ever, faggot.
>>528903615I forgot to mention that genshin new endgame mode is hot dogshit too
>I NEED my teams to work with just one character
Sounds like people here NEED Duet Night Abyss.
>>528903863You shouldn't have to play with two specific other characters for your unit not to feel like shit
Remember the characters before zani? Were you mad that you could actually use their full kit fluidly without needing a specific second character you might not give a shit about?
>>528903881Then just don't use them together?
You can just use elf by herself
Or use ciaccona in other teams
Are you just not able to think for yourself and make teams that you like?
Are you beholden to metafaggotry or something like a brainrotted guide watcher?
>>528902904Revenue for the period of June 12th to June 18th. So the measuring starts when Carthy releases and encompass her first week when no other game is having any major patches. All it says is that Carthy did well, which we already knew since she ranked nr 1 in Jp on her release.
skipping frog, thank god finally a skip patch.
>>528903741>Genshin gets a new endgame>Actually NEED meta units at C6 to even do it>Rewards last 40 days
>People (rightfully) saying how shit the NEED stuff is
>Quick! uhh, ZZZ! look at the other games Im monitoring! also genshin shit too!
Nice deflection.
Having a 3 piece set effect seems a bit silly, everyone's going go use a two piece havoc anyway.
>>528904037duet night abyss has peebs, so I might try it out
>>528903824thanks, now i understand why there are so many shitposters
JINNY does no damage. My Jiyan can clear side towers with 30 seconds left but my Jinny can't even 2 star them. I've invested more resources in Jinny too. No I don't have zhezhi so I'm forced to use fedorafag. No I don't have chorekeeper because I quit before her banner dropped. Fuck Jinny, worthless piece of fucking garbage.
>>528904079Problem is then they feel like shit, which has already been explained to you
>>528903015
>>528903615What a bunch of cucks
>>528904037this
so much this
so much FUCKING this
we Duet Night Gang now
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE IF I DON'T HAVE X Y Z CHARACTERS IN A TEAM AAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdAr_7AZOA8
>>528903615>somebodies disinfo ragebait is getting our general as wellgrim
>>528903615Man, Carlotta's 4* outfit already mogged that swimsuit but now it's just sad
>>528904178so shameless lol. the slurping is fucking insane in here.
>qiuyuan is aero (can tell from the new weekly echo)
Cart has 3 patches before she's done for kek
>>528904079>wanting not clunky and comfy play = metawhy are you troons so retarded?
>post zzz censorship
>doomposting stops
Hmmmmm
Has Phrolova's weapon been posted yet?
>>528904265They don't "feel like shit"
Their gameplay is perfectly fine
Elf sword skills don't magically stop working without Cia
You're just obsessed with damage numbers because you are, as I said, a brainrotted metafag
>>528903937>Most sales ever>Anniversary patch with 2 new characters and 12 reruns and top up reset into the greatest shilled character in the gacha spaceyou realize that was the peak of WuWa for this year and it was a fucking disappointment right
what do you expect to get until 3.0?
more forced teambuilding with a slew of rerun and double character patches
>meanwhile there's 4 open world gacha titles coming out, 2 of which already said no weapons and no 50 50I'm sure wuwa will hold very well
>>528904389He's gonna replace clunky aero rover.
>>528902678This is the reason keeping half the content locked away is a fucking terrible idea
All of this can be easily be fixed by adding more cope 4* units but Kuro is too dumb or too greedy (probably both) to do so.
Where is my Spectro Frazzle and Aero Erosion 4*? Wheres my "echo" kit 4*?
>>528894509it happens to all gacha games eventually, it just usually takes years for it to happen. wuwa didn't even make it to year 1 before they got greedy
t. formerly loyal grubber. shit like human rights summons didn't happen until year 5
>>528903615Having tencent backing us sure is nice
>>528904469They're right. I can't physically go into absolution with peebs if I don't have SRover on the team, I just checked.
>>528904427On reddit, yes.
>>528904070>You shouldn't have to play with two specific other characters for your unit not to feel like shitWhy not?
What's the problem with character's being designed with teams in mind, rather than the simpler characters from launch that had less interlocking mechanics
>>528904079I pulled them together because the character I wanted to play needed the other to function at maximum efficiency.
This shouldn't be hard to understand, it's not metafaggotry, it's HOW they designed them to work, it's not just a character that happens to buff the same element, it's a character that is DESIGNED to fit the other on a mechanical level.
>>528904476Ah, hoyoshil retoric. Very nice.
>huurr annia month ago. Get over it.
>4 open world gachasnobody cares lil bro.
>>528904321People have completed Genshin's new endgame with C0 characters, does that mean the new endgame is properly balanced for f2p players?
>>528904490>>528904558>a male replacing mc in the cart teamgood luck with that.
He's not though anyway. He's aero and echo skill dmg based
>>528904469You've never tried to play zani without phoebe or S0 cart without ciaccona and it shows
Yes, they do "feel like shit"
Having to change your rotation to some clunky bullshit because you don't have their tailor made support is garbage design. Sorry I don't like the design of the game actively becoming worse when this was hardly if ever a problem in 1.X
GF2 doesn't have tencent backing yet they get WAY lewder skins, kuro is just retarded and wants to appeal to the genshart crowd
JINNY SUCKS THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF MY ASS I LITERALLY BROKE MY FUCKING KEYBOARD BECAUSE THIS WORTHLESS LITTLE FAGGOT REFUSES TO CRIT EVEN WITH 80% CRIT RATE FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>528904678we sure showed them zzzcucks
>nobody careshuh (you) do not care
>>528904427Another must have signature weapon that only works on a single character and no others. This looks like it will be a massive dmg increase over using the standard 5*.
>>528904321Bunch of larping faggots trying to doompost when their games are turning into hot dogshit is nothing new
>>528904798>fake chartsagaint they are getting censored agent so they'll flop. nobody cares dude, fuck off.
Again, you wanna play worse games? go ahead, I wont stop you.
>>528904687As a day 1 f2poor with zero signature weapon or cons, difficulty 5 is extremely hard and sweaty bordering on impossible without the exact units it's designed for, with the highest difficulty being basically impossible.
>>528904697Um retard bwo, that's for iuno
>>528904427Wonder how this will measure up to Stringmaster
people kept going on about how good Stringmaster was, but it not like there's a lot of characters that could use it
so I never understood people recommending to get it on anniversary banner, so silly
I mean, unless you really really like Anko
>>528904845It literally works on any character. Every rectifier character can trigger its full effect
>>528904697gay, why the fuck do we have 3 aero main dps now? fuck this game
>>528904798>shitty unityslop mobile game does more on mobile than Wuwa polished PC gameno shit faggot
>>528904469Go into the game right now and play Zani without someone feeding her frazzle. Time how long it takes to fill her blaze bar. You can even use the combo that fills up the forte bar quickly.
Then come back here and tell us she isn't intentionally kneecapped to be reliant on frazzle at the expense of fun.
>>528904671>Maximum efficiency.Quite honestly the only thing you gain from any of Cart's supports is just higher erosion stack, which in turn translates into overall higher numbers. You'll clear quicker, but practically nothing changes in term of how you play the character. You can slot Aero Rover, Aalto or Sanhua and the only difference is the overall maximum damage. At that point, you might as well argue that not having S6 & R5 on every character is skipping on maximum efficiency, even though it's almost exclusively the domain of whalehood.
>>528904923i am already playing the worse game
I am seeing it get worse and worse with every patch following 2.0
all we got is dogshit timegates, reruns on reruns, forced team buildings and improved grass and water puddles
>>528904935Stringmaster is amazing for its crit rate. IIRC, most people just use it as a stat stick.
Tell me which characters do I NEED the most?
Zani feels like shit to play period. Stop coping.
>>5289045484* characters in this game is very very very uninteresting from a gameplay perspective
so there is only one way to go: up
What do you mean I NEED to put the nightmare echo on the main slot to gain the passive damage buff? I like having the havoc flower there Kuro fix this or I'll go back to genshinnnn
>>528900610Sure, but she's still a garbage tier character.
We have two dozen hot broads out now plus another five incoming.
Phrolova has had quadruple the screentime that Yinlin had and she hasn't even been released yet.
>>528904924And yet people have completed difficulty 6 with C0 characters. So by your logic there is nothing wrong with the balance of that difficulty since the f2p can clear it. Just like there is no issue with characters like Carthy because she can solo current ToA.
Itโs funny all this NEED shitposting is exposing how dogshit they are at the game.
https://youtu.be/xeXI1U1_d8s?si=q__DPHHHb_Edf3iU
did string master got powecreep?
You don't NEED anything.
That includes playing this game.
You NEED to learn quickswap if you don't want to NEED to roll supports.
>>528905362keyword, current
>>528905195this but unironically. Imagine having a complex pokemon echo system where every single echo has some effect but you're only every allowed to use 1
>>528904651if the team building was more loose I wouldn't mind it as much (like simply wanting a unit of a particular role that shares the element or gives a specific kind of buff), but with this direction it has to be one or two SPECIFIC characters
so if it's a character you don't have, or a character you don't personally like, then it really sucks
>>528905412True that, fuck this shit game.
>>528905034Aerover being mandatory is another kick in the nuts.
Someone will probably argue that it makes her f2p friendly and while it's true you have to keep in mind that they just released two 5* dps that rely on Rover back to back and that when the next Rover gets released it will be needed for someone else and the only way to reach more erosion stacks (it could be 6, it could even be 8 or 9) will be via another character that you probably didn't want to have to pull to keep playing your Carthethyia.
>>528905123The ones with big ass like Roccia
>>528905043boo fucking hoo. If you like the game, you'll spend.
If you don't, you'll leave. Why is this such a hard concept to grasp?
>>528900901Phrolova? The new set that will release next patch.
>>528905048But on who?
There's 1 other character with an limited Rectifier
I regret rolling Jinhsi Lawrence
>>528905423quickswapping won't make Zani generate blaze faster bro
>>528905492Why would anyone rational waste money on a dead shit game? The writing is on the wall, if you spend on this piece of shit, you should just burn your money instead. It'll last longer that way.
>>528905374>r1 s6no shit zani would be strong when she's maxed out. are you retarded?
>>528905606okay hoyoslurper.
>>528905567But swapping into her at correct timings to parry helps with building her forte.
>>528905034Without Cia you need to go back to Carthy form to reapply aero stacks before ulting with Fleur. With Cia you don't need to do that and can immediately ult as Fleur.
How is that practically nothing changes in how you play her?
>>528905492if you like the game you'll spend
>i spend money into proper games>a character (guarantee) priced at 400$ is fucking retardedanime chinkslop casinos really deserve no money
Jinny Lawrence just refuses to crit!
They doubled down on needing because you skipped Ciaccona
>>528905650>NEEDS brantAIIIIIEEEEE
>>528905650Punch all the shitposters, Lupa!
>>528905534I truly do, i unironically smashed my keyboard in half thanks to her non critting ass.
>>528905374GOD DAMN F2P METADOOMKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
YOU NEED EVERYTHING for 50 extra gems in tower per rotation
BUY BUY BUY
I think I NEED to uninstall the game
>>528905754Actually she NEEDS Changli while Brant NEEDS Lupa.
Damn, thread really speeds up when its shitposting hours.
>>528905723WuWa has like a 95% player retention rate. People wouldn't leave over insignificant NEEDposting, you retard.
You NEED a job so you don't spend your entire day shitposting
>you NEED to play the game
But what if I want to form meaningful relationships and precious memories with friends and family?
The really funny thing to take away from Frog kit is that if you pull her to play her you're actively hurting yourself.
>develop a character that is a literal brick if you don't play her off field
holy shit kuro keeps winning
>>528905362First, I'm not that guy you're arguing with.
And I've only seen C0R1 clears of diff 6 which is hardly f2p because the likelyhood of having the exact characters you need with their weapon is somewhat low, and let's not talk about owning the C6 4* used. There's a difference between potential f2p investment level and an actual f2p account.
>>528882687Bitch, I was going to skip Cunty because she's coomerbait and looks like a fucking disgusting whore until I read the story. I grew soft on her and was going to roll for her with time until those same chud incel devs who designed her decided to censor her. It was all about censorship no matter how fucking ridiculous she looked or how objectified she was, I will always bow the fuck out
>>528905927This thread NEEDS more speed though.
>>528904427I don't regret skipping stringmaster.
I have Rococo but no Cantarella who Froglova NEEDS
>>528905428I don't mind *some* characters being like that. I just hope it won't be ALL future characters. I predict we'll see a mix
Characters of course will always have synergies, so it's going to be on a spectrum how reliant they are on each other
>>528905754Encore is literally better, bro. She won....
>>528905519>1 otherStringmaster is still the second best option for Phoebe, Zhezhi, Cantarella and probably will be for Frog too.
Its a great fucking weapon if you dont want to roll for every sig.
>>528905680building forte isn't the problem it's the pathetic amount of blaze you get from her enhanced skill. it needs to be tripled at least
that one little thing is what makes her feel like shit to play without frazzle. it's got nothing to do with damage like the retards try to deflect to
I don't even have damage numbers on lol
>>528906015And those Carthy solo tower clears are also C0R1.
>>528906117I think how much you NEED them is also relevant on whether the player is on the spectrum too...
>>528905950that looks like a 45% to me
>steam numbers are fake people play on the launcher32k is still significant statistical data to assume the same is true for the indipendent launcher as well within accepted variation ยฑ5%
>for reference most statistics run on sample size of 1000 you're just coping dude
My computer NEEDs an upgrade from a 1440p VA monitor to a 4K OLED monitor
Suffering arises because of NEED, and therefore you shouldnโt NEED anything. So sayeth the Buddha.
>>528906117I according to the leaks Augusta and Iuno are looking to be more of the same
things can always change of course but I'm wondering how long it'll be before we get another main DPS who has more broad team potential
>>528905362Hi, can you show me the SO diff 6 clears with SOLO characters? I'll be waiting concernbro.
Oh what's that? Not a single endgame in GI is clearable with solo characters unless they are giga whale C6R5? Weird how in wuwa it is with possible with C0R0, huh?
Truly concerning.
If the characters don't play exactly like how *I* want, and use the teams *I* want, they are brick
>>528905698Hold on THATS why her ult is doing wet noodle damage for me? I need to try this...
>>528906014This is the real reason I donโt want to pull her. At least you can walk while baizhi uses her summon
>>528906229If you say so, I only started Wuwa a few weeks ago so I believe you but I don't see what that has to do with what I said, if the endgame can be soloed with a c0r1 then it's much more f2p than the new genshin endgame which is basically impossible as f2p.
>>528906358you're so right sis, here
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>>528906606uh oh... not even 1... Yikes.... loli bros, don't look
>>528906606just like that huh?
>>528903607She shows it in basically every official promo art for any of their collab things
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should I care about these double drop at this SOL phase?
I haven't done a single tacet field yet, I don't much see the point when you can kill stuff in the overworld.
I'm union level 59 so it sucks even more that I'm close to the next tier.
>>528906774Your databank level is all that matters.
>>528906774I'd do the 3 daily 2x clears if I were you.
>>528906352>main DPS who has more broad team potentialBut that would be powercreep, if they just are competent right out of the box with old characters supporting them (or none, going solo)
Or... I guess they could just be somewhat uninteresting, and do the same amount of damage as old DPS and slot in to the same teams.
People gonna be upset about that too, we kinda have had this happen already
>>528906750>SniggersDo people still eat that nasty slop?
Froglova has new echoes next patch and I already exhausted everything trying and failing to raise my Carty to god status...
>>528906606This tiger brat must constantly be in heat or something since she's always showing off her butt
>>528906836really? isn't there something like the amount of drops that's based on SOL phase?
>>528904993COPIUS MAXIMUS
>>528906546https://youtu.be/CeZpzs_NPYM
>wuwa
>polished
Can you guys chill with the jokes lmao??
>>528906897>that would be powercreepI mean every 'team' released so far has powercrept the one before
just because older teams can still clear the team ceiling has still gone up
>it will be a massive meltdown when the floor catches up to the ceiling
>>528903615I can't believe people are still falling for this in every gacha general
This "leak" was rejected off all official leak channels for being bullshit
>>528906352>Augusta and Iunothat would be a first with characters not being the same element
>>528906124but muh healing...
>>528906774Do it, you can get lucky and if not you can recycle all the shit anyways. Xp and tunners are important too so take the x2
>>528905606>>528906258>going full mask off alreadykek it's so easy to expose them
>want new character
>this character NEEDs other characters
>also you already spent thousands of echo tuners for the character you just rolled and barely have anything left
>end up skipping
Interesting strategy from kuro
>>528906546>>528907098HAHAHAHAHA instant BTFO.
Why are hoyotrannies like this? Why do they keep trying? Playing hoyo games must really rot the brain.
>>528907246Is it better to do these for 3 cost echos like for my carlotta and ciaccona or for 1 cost echos like for Carthe?
Kelpie made echo outros possible. We are just one echo outro that replicates Roccia's second inherent skill away from making a lot of angry people look real stupid.
>>528907204uh... bro? use your shore if you have skill issue?
>>528906917>Butter with peanuts and sugarStill better than this fake ass thing americans like to call "chocolate".
So what is the actual f2p Phrolova team looking like?
Phrolova Lumi/Taoqi Verina?
>is that even going to break the 30k dps threshold
>>528907468but muh max fusion buff...
>>528907360They are literally projecting their insecurities onto us because they have to roll in GARBAGE weapon banner system, GARBAGE constellation baits, GARBAGE S6 dedicated 4* requirements, GARBAGE boring QE bot kits
Meanwhile 1.0 4* solo danjinGODS can skill diff all these hoyoshitters
>>528907515why not phrolova and havoc rover?
sounds kino
>>528907515If you're f2p you should NOT pull for Phrolova unless you already have Cantarella (but you shouldn't have pulled Cantarella as a f2p).
Phrolova is a premium character full stop. She's going to way underperform with a f2p team.
>>528907426Just do for whatever you want to build first, XP and tunners are a priority. It sucks if you want to farm 1 cost echos though
Can we just go back to talking about elves?
>>528906774This x3 event is mainly for the extra xp mats and the tuners. You'll always need those.
>>528907426Tacet fields seem to drop more 3 costs than 1 costs. I get most of my 1 cost echoes from farming them in the overworld, and from merging echoes.
>>528907249skip all post-2.0 characters and S6 1.x characters instead
unlock those titles
Wait does phroLOVE really need to be off field? Is she a support or something?
I hope its something cool then because i like playing the game
Supports and buffers make everything boring, same shit happened with pgr when it turned into specific elemental reaction side rotation slop
No real gameplay just rotation spam all the time
I would be happier with characters like changli or carlotta being cool by themselves
>>528907701because rover and phrolova have absolutely no synergy whatsoever?
they're both main DPS and havoc rover really doesn't play well into quickswap
>and phrolova wants to be off field
>>528907515Cammy was the f2p pick and still holds up to this day, even with just Sanhua Verina team
CBT WITH PHROLOVA UOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>528907143Powercreep is very mitigated when new characters need to jump through hoops of having a premium a team to be significantly stronger.
I'm confident people would feel way more upset about powercreep, if new characters where stronger than old ones, in all contexts
Like if you'd just replace Jinhsi with Zani on the same team, and Zani did more damage
>>528907762>If you're f2p you should NOT pull for PhrolovaOkay, but I love her, and I don't care about Lupa or Augusta or Iuno or Qiuyuan or Galbrena. I have nothing to pull for until Chisa. So I might as well get Phrogfucker. Admittedly I also still need to get Shorekeeper and Zhezhi for my Carlotta, but I think that should be doable f2p.
>>528907515verina/shorekeeper phrolova danjin
>>528907956>I would be happier with characters like changli or carlotta being cool by themselvesthis is what we've been saying
I fucking hate rotationslop
>>528908028Wheres the survey solon? Scared of what your fans have to say?
>>528908015>phrolova off field havoc rover on field>absolutely no synergy
>>528908028Jiyan and Jinhsi lacks a circle of NEED. Please fix.
Just GET Cantarella, you fucking fucks
>>528908265yeah she wants to be off field because canta and roccia have echo skill casts that trigger hecate's nukes during her ult
rover doesn't trigger any of it
well 1 with 1 echo skill cast
>no synergy
>>528908354I have her but I don't want to pull rococococococococoococ
can i play carty aerover and jianxin?
>>528908478>can i play .... jianxinNo
>>528908354>Just GET the NEED character who is locked behind a 4-8 month rerun cycle.>Better hope no other characters come out that totally upset your current desire sensor.>But if you're really afraid of Missing Out (and you WILL miss out!) just open up your wallet anon-kun.
>>528908452Then use fucking Cammy
I don't fully get Frog. It seems that you're supposed to swap to another character during her ult but wouldn't Frog lose the outro buffs from Cantarella when she switches?
>>528908565I-I started too late to roll cammy...
>rococo rerun
Phew I think I can go for S2
>>528904717>>528905002Just came back to report that I had capital F Fun! with zani
Maybe because I turned off visual clutter like damage numbers to enjoy the game more??
>>528908610>reran in 2.2>2.4 new accounts can just choose her directly from the starter2.3 bro...
>>528898968You will NEED them for Cancersaur piece of shit
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I had a NEED..
>>528908554>for all of your NEED shopping we will be conveniently rerunning all of Phrolova's team during 2.5>do not miss out!Roccia reruns with Phro, Cantarella in 2nd half.
>>528908659>thinks it's about damageretard
>but what if people complain too hard and kuro makes Zani even more fun without frazzle for no reason!that's what you sound like when you defend this shit lol
ZZZpaggers please stay. This thread is so much livier compared to when it was just ritualposting
>>528908758nah he's speaking nonsense, the fuck does he mean by too late for Cammy when he has Canta? Cammy reruns at the same time as Canta's banner.
>>528908659zased zani zhad
>>528908028MORE SKINS. Also, Let characters use their own canon weapon 100% of the time like you asked in the survey
Just don't act like it was surprising that Frog NEEDS Cantarella, that shit was super obvious and telegraphed by Cantarella's kit forever ago
>>528909012Genuinely, what would change if they just made Ciaccona's signature weapon her mic stand and just called it a gun? Would anyone really care that it's not shaped like a gun?
>>528908134Yeah thats why PGR started to lose me, i want to play a character i want to enjoy the moveset the combos not just do the same old elemental rotation slop thing with off element special supports for plasma or whatever shit there is now because its boring
Oh you need to actively use things that dont work together to trigger a massive burst of damage that scales so high its impossible to beat but it also means your "fire team" is not fire lightning and phys or whatever bullshit it is and your support needs to build up stacks that only one character uses to nuke everythin.. wait that sounds familiar
I like zani, shes cool but damn her gameplay is slow and unsatisfying as fuck and i have peeby
All reso skills and ults should give a stack of the elemental effect for the same damage type and making shit have to stack 90 times isnt fun when it takes 40 seconds to stack
jinny ult should be 1 frazzle, jinny skill should be one frazzle
changli ult and the press and hold skill thing should be one fire stack
yinlin should stack lightning
cammy ult and the skill explosion shit should give havoc stacks
I was somewhat okay with weapons being 15-20% not its 35+ but you also need dupes but you also need supports oh but you also need this and that
meanwhile im only using carlittle and jinhsi because they are fun no matter what
>>528908983I bought an account with cantarella, shorky, and carlotta during zani's banner cuz I thought they were all hot
I'm gonna have to play phrolova, canty, and shorky like some kind of pleb
>>528908953roccia is a safe and easy skip, since there will be a new unit that will mog her anyway. Canta is who you actually want
>>528909126>Would anyone really care that it's not shaped like a gun?Yes because if you gave it to a different character it would look retarded. Weapons need to be interchangeable.
You NEED to acknowledge that roccia is sexy.
T-they should buff Havoc Rover's forte heavy attack entering Dark Surge state to deal as echo skill damage instead because technically the havoc's power was technically Dreamless's...
Cantarella?
The old lady who got her pussy deleted?
>>528909184imagine if instead of making up debuffs and frazzle stacks and erosion stacks all of it just applied to elemental damage instead
>dealing spectro damage gives zani the equivalent of 1 frazzle stack application with a 1s cdpeople could actually use characters they've pulled for and built
>>528909184kuro needs the money, stop being selfish
>implying her BiS teammates aren't Scar and Cristoforo in 3.x
>>528909469I get really impure thoughts when peeking at her ass and the fact that she's bouncing down on something with her ass and Pero...
>>528908659Good on you
I didn't have fun with zani as a f2p because it takes too long to kill everything so she just feels like a lame ass character that's not worth fielding to be honest
I rolled her because she was hot. Honestly there's no need justify dickrolls with your kind of cope. I rolled for a shit character and that's that.
They unironically need to be greedier. I've seen their quarterly reports and it's not great.
>make character based on frazzle stacks
>she can't apply it herself so her team is locked down
>make character based on faero erosion
>she can't get beyond 3 stacks without
is this how they're going to shill each of the new DoTs one by one?
>>528908134>I fucking hate rotationslopGet S3, la
>>528909816honestly I'm tempted even though I have ciaccona
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>>528909516Havoc will get retroactively buffed to apply Bane for Chisa
>she will NEED him>>528909761That went very well for a lot of games
crank up the greed
>picrel
>>528909776Yes, and they'll release two Ciaccona alters for the last 4 DoTs so no one is safe from bard wife.
>>528909776This kinda feels more like a problem for the support-type characters
like what the heck are they supposed to do, except niche stuff like this? Without outright being Shorekeeper Mk. 2
Snowbreak is going to have 2 new characters every update now and the second one will be given away for free with max dupes and their weapon as well. Kusogames just can't compete.
>>528907515>is that even going to break the 30k dps thresholdhttps://ww2.hakush.in/character/1608
From what I gather, it shouldn't be a problem, she is still a main Dps.
Basically rough TLDR Phrolova :
-Uses the combo chains to compose your symphony of notes which will give different effects to Hecate Enhanced Attacks
- Heavy then Ult
- Control Hecate like any other character, its Enhanced attack deals around 400%
- Quickswap Hecate with other characters to uses their echo skills to trigger more Hecate enhanced attacks (once per same named echo)
-Until you get to intro back to Hecate for the final nuke.
On paper the only advantage of Cantarella is she have 3 differently named echo skill + her main echo so she can trigger more enhanced attacks and you need less Hecate time and more Canta time which is a DMG increase. But the NEEDfags probably blows this out of proportion again.
>>528909948Oh no the opinion of steam subhumans
>>528909776without rover*
>>528910017yeah aero rover is so utterly specific, he's designed to work specifically with characters based around exploding as many aero stacks on a target, it's so niche, is anyone else ever gonna use this guy?
>>528910031mecha break is actually one of my most anticipated games this year so I hope they find some good success with snowbreak too the devs seem cool
>>528909948I would be surprised if Nikki doesn't EoS by the end of the year.
>>528909948It's so or die at this point anyway
>>528910271Mechabreak sucks ass
>>528910017they could have at least gone through all the element/damage type outro buff combinations before inventing a new gimmick to further restrict teams
but that wasn't making them enough money I guess
>>528908970But it is always about damage with you retards
If Zani multipliers were 10x then you would suddenly start saying she is fun LMAO
>>528908996So that's what the "Z"s mean..
>>528909724Rolling for new characters and having fun without worrying about spreadsheet autism will never be cope. The only one that has to cope are f2p who have to let other people make roll decisions for them LMAO
>>528909560Pretty much the idea except basic attacks and maybe combos that have elemental damage on top
lets say cammy dealing havoc damage 15x per second would be busted so make it tied to skills and ults to be sure
>>528909598honestly i have this theory i cant really prove or disprove but doing this shit makes people spend less
Its the trying to squeeze out more out of the few remaining players thing mmos tend to do when they start going under which pushes out more players
Weapons are a problem because a lot of damage is tied to them, dupes exist already and when you insert another system that creates more alienation and reduces the playability people start skipping more
oh a support? skip
dps character that needs a.. skip
Oh she look cool oh but its that thing again so skip
Oh thats a cool skin but i dont have her because i dont have a weapon and a support
>>528910339disagree, I had a lot of fun with the betas
>>528910107It's rated like 1.4 on Google as well
>>528908028Give me more playable 5* lolis then I'll roll for her NEED characters you clever jew
>>528910379I keep complaining abut this in every gacha.
>season 1 ends>still a lot of missing archetypes/untapped potential and ignored mechanics>season 2 starts>new unique mechanic of buff/debuff gets added>you NEED this character if you want to beat the content>old characters slowly beong phased out by new characters of the same element but way stronger with the new gimmick
>>528910536Oh no the steam retard open his phone and do the same
the retards that do review bombing in steam also do in phones
they are not different people
>>528910081I dont have cantarella
Echo skills are skills that have an echo keyword in them or just echoes in general? like can you use anyone and just use the echo and swap and echo again or does it have to be canta?
>>528909469Mhmm, very smexy
>>528908028Stop shilling Rover if you're going to make his kit garbo, replace him with a proper limited resonator asap.
>>528908974They're afraid of staying because of this, i bet you won't see the pedobait being spammed here anymore.
Why not just give the new echo set a 2 piece effect with 10% Havoc, what's the point in making a 3 piece set?
Also, doesn't the new one completely shit on Havoc Eclipse?
>>528910707Well yeah everyone has one echo skill, the problem is Cantarella's skill, ult and empowered forte skill all count as echo skills.
>>528910951But she sold like 9.9 zenzillionzero zennies?
>>528910698Sarr do not redeem the negative review
>>528908114Wife>meta, just admit she might not perform well and pull with your heart.
>>528910985>Also, doesn't the new one completely shit on Havoc Eclipse?Yes. This is why you always do fantasies of thousand gateways over tacet fields.
>>528910751Aero rover is literally never getting replaced in the cartethyia team. He has cartethyia exclusive buffs just like shorekeeper
bootlick! lick boots! sluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp!
>>528910707It's just casting your echoes. But Cantarella Ult and Reso skill are also considered echo skills alongside her main echo. Roccia outro utility is also considered an echo skill hence why people are screeching about NEEDing Canta and Roccia.
The way I see this is that some people don't want to play with Hecate and just want the off field for some reasons.
>>528910698Keep defending greedy practices
>as long as we make more than ZZZ that's all you can come up with
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>>528911067The best banner in the game
Loli lovers have money they say
>>528911168also he's the only one that increases max aero erosion stacks on enemies which greatly scales the damage of carty's ult
>>528911168Then the premium Carty healer will have a kit so generous and sufficient it'll outweigh the cons of replacing AeRover. Classic NTR plot
>>528909776I'm getting lupa and galbrena and maybe augusta regardless of their shilling.
If the game turns to shit, it turns to shit. As long as the characters are hot I'll keep playing.
A shit game will die on its own, I plan on making the most out of my time with my favorite characters.
>>528911348Oh no the steam cocksucker is making narratives in his head to be angry
When will wuwa release a sex character like her? The closest thing is Frover
Just pay me thousand bucks per month you retarded boot licking cuck and I will spare you
t. Solon
>>528911382C-can we expect a loli now that she unexpectedly sold like hotcakes? Kuro lives by copying so shirley...
Do we know more about chisa and why that she need a homo as a support ?
>>528911560This looks AI generated
>>528911321>>528910996Okay thanks for the explanation bros
I think its cool that the conductor stays behind and plays while hecate makes some coordinated attacks but this kinda sounds too limiting
not a fan of the mandatory teams thing because when i imagine carlotta shooting her ult shots while hecate swoops and slashes everything she hits it just sounds cooler
>>528911123It's harder to justify pulling with your dick as f2p, I still can only max 21/30 in ToA... but I genuinely just don't have anything else to pull for. If Chisa dropped only a month from now I would probably skip Frogger.
>>528911642not really, the little details are too clear and discernable
>>528911382I'm honestly shocked she flopped, why?
Can carty's banner end already? I can't stop impulse pulling. I might end up wasting my guarantee...
Licking Cantarella's boots!
Licking Cantarella's teats!
should i buy the battle pass
Cartethyia's slow ass banner is killing this game
>>528911857Same, got Calchudo...
The HP inflation is catching up... You NEED them more than ever...
>ctrl f: need
>170 results
nice game wuwabs
>>528911838>People want another fire attacker like Evelyn> hoyo give them another fucking support fire stunner.
>>528911838Because zzz is diying
You dont have wholes dev stream saying that they are removing multiples game modes if you are not flopping
Yixuan aka the anni didnt surpass the launch banner nor miyabi, zani surppased jiyan, acheron surpassed seele, etc... of the bigs gachas zzz is the only one that didnt
The game have worst powercreep that hsr in less time being forced to start bufffing characters like ellen
>>528911740I pulled yinlin at anniversary to only use her In open world, I don't clear fully TOA either, up to you If you want to metafag and save for a pushed broken team once evey 6 months or waifus
>>528912261That's true, I NEED those Calchud dupes to get him to S6.
>>528911790That shading, lightning and eyes literally scream AI generated, even the hands look weird.
>>528912141please answer!!!!! im new
>>528911838>stunner>dog shit kitEven the best stunner (Lighter) flop
>>528911870this but her lips
>>528911740You know you get less than 1 roll a month going from 21 to 30 right?
>>528911605>sold like hotcakes??
>>528910996Don't forget Roccia's second inherent skill gives the intro'd character an echo skill, so you NEED her too.
>>528911838the game freebies supply Is very low, they powercrepped once more the game and everyone felt they needed to pull chingchong master and her weapon plus astra (best support by a mile). now everyone's dry and there Is a caesar rerun (another op support)
>>528912447If you're fine putting some money In the game Its ok. the weapon box Isn't that good but It give a handfull of pull and a decent chunk of ressources. If you want Astrite just buy the monthly pass.
>>528912447Lunite sub is already good
>>528912447If you have money then buy, it gives a lot of resources
>>528912141>>528912447Do you like to build a lot of different characters? If yes the battle pass is good
>>528912416the eyes look pretty clean to me and I don't see anything wrong with the hands
I'm no expert PROOMPTER but usually the AI stuff I see always muddies the tiny outfit details like buttons, clasps, patterns, seams, etc
>>528912447Generally no, the weapons are not relevant and you'll get the materials over time. It's the second best way of buying currency after the monthly, but that's because it gets expensive very fast after the monthly
>>528912475The only one who do something in Fire is Evelyn and thats all.
>>528912568Oh sorry I'm only used to wuflop statistics. Judging from the other (You)s it doesn't appear to be the case
>>528912416I don't think it is
https://www.pixiv.net/users/2821983/illustrations
Some artists just have a really generic style. AI has to copy something.
>>528912447Daily login is for pull currency to get characters, battle pass is for resources to ascend those characters.
>>528911713It would actually be funny if quickswap Phrolova/Hecate with Changli or Carlotta out DPS Canta. Unlikely but funny.
By the way the partial kit we have says that Hecate attacks are echo skill damage not Reso skill damage so there is a possibility that you can kiss the Reso skills buffs of Canta or Taoqi goodbye during Ult. Danjin might be a better option as F2P.
>>528912897the same echo only counts as one cast. Kuro's already thought of that
>>528912416>>528912737The text says ไบๅฒฟๅฑฑ, and the stroke order is right. AI is terrible at text. It could be AI assisted and the artist cleaned up the little details, but I don't think so.
>>528910475it seems to have paid off for Zani and Carty. but they were highly anticipated characters. I think they'll save the dot based kits for popular characters since they are way more restrictive and thus harder sells. could you imagine if they tried to sell Zhezhi as a glacio Zani?
>kUrO LeBaD fOR NEED tEaM buLlShiT StArTInG FrOM ZaNi
Meanwhile
Zani
>only needs EITHER Srover (free) or phoebe
>has one of highest team dps with phoebe
>can comfortably clear with rover unless massive skill issue
Cartethyia
>needs Aerover(free), Cia is optional, Sanhua for f2poors
>her as a unit is already strong af and her premium team has the highest team dps so it's an overkill on current content
>people are soloing all towers on her at S0R1
Lupa
>teams are Changli, Brant, Encore
>Brant Changli are already good so she's not a needed character and just a convenient upgrade
Frog
>no info yet but I can bet her with just Rococo is more than enough to clear all contents
On top of that
>120-150 pulls per patch
>3 character team vs hoyo's 4
>80 pity with weapon banner no 50/50
>can guarantee a selection of 2-3 standard weapons
>minimal hp inflation and powercreep
You fags are just being whiny and cheap for expecting a premium team performance for the price of a fucking 80 pull. Want your Frog to be on par with Zani or Carte? Then invest on Rococo or Canterella simple as
>>528912834ไธ is 10,000, rather than the usual ๅ which is 100 million. So she's a bit less than 1 ๅ right now.
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>>528912897>Only count as one
I CANT NEED
seriously why has no one made a wuwa sneed edit yet you fucking disappoint me
>>528912512Yes but it makes me feel bad not being able to do it. Also the shop you get from the points is really good.
TRUST ME, you don't WANT Phrolova. Pressing all those complex buttons to accumulate echo skill damage to deal subpar damage? It's not werf it
>>528912897It says the echo skill needs to be unique in pavlova's kit so you can't stack with phantom crownless, sorry.
>>528913052Didnt know Saintontas posted here.
>>528913052guys
a fucking FROG is trvking us
its rover............
>>528913052>game has worse, more restrictive character design than 1.X>"durr you're just being whiny and cheap"frogposts are always retarded, every time
I too like walking with crutches despite having two working legs. needlessly gimping myself is fun!
>>528913052Saintontas god
They should let me change echo loadouts while in combat if I have phrolova on the team. Problem, fixed.
>>528909948Ratings have almost no bearing on the game's success. The game still has the same or higher levels of revenue, playerbase didn't get hit based on steamcharts, and people are already done with their "boycott". Unironically, such a swing in reviews might as well be an AD for it.
>"Look how bad this game you never heard of is doing!"
>>528913052did everyone forget about chixia?
>>528913052New characters feel like trash without their signature weapon and shilled teammates and this is true no matter how many "what about"s you throw in there.
>You fags are just being whiny and cheap for expecting a premium team performance for the price of a fucking 80 pull. Yeah. But how's the performance of the fucking 80 pull itself? It's complete shit, ain't it?
>>528914034Cartethyia is fine. Literally only Zani feels bad without another Spectro Frazzle applier
>>528914034How can characters "feel like trash" without their sig? Hmm?
Do weapons unlock a new resonance skill?
>>528914119carty is even more restrictive, she's attached to aerover at the hip
Her damage at 3 max stacks feels awful. It's like a part of her character is locked behind aerover for funsies
at least he's free but it still sucks ass
>>528890170>bowThat's too bad, I hoped she would have a huge ass moon chakram.
>>528914446There is literally nothing stopping her from having both, to be fair. Hell, the chakram looks like it's part of the bow.
FUCK, how the FUCK do I use ciaccona as main dps? She keeps fucking dying, and if I switch to rover the team damage sucks because rover hogs too much field time. I'm also only UL 53 so my team can only be lvl 80
>>528913425they should get rid of echoes
most boring monsters ever
promilia supremacy when
>>528914362She clears all endgame content solo. I wouldn't call that awful damage.
>>528913953Never. Nor did I forget about Bro Aalto and YapYap for my Cartethyia team.
>>528893926>Main Damage Dealer>Resonance Skill DMG>Havoc Amp>Heavy Attack AmpDamn, cant belive I need this ugly bitch to unbrick my Cantawife
>>528914610>She clears all endgame content solo....in the aero erosion shill tower with her sig weapon, maybe
>>528914610Won't be doing it next patch
As someone that rolled for Cantarella simply because I liked her companion quest, all I can say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>528913076Wait is it like 0.94G if it showed like other two?
>>528914695Side towers don't give any erosion buffs. Again, how does that translate into "awful damage"?
>>528914695>>528914697>y-yeah b-but!!KEK btfo
>>528914803>Side towers don't give any erosion buffs.and side towers are extremely piss easy no one gives a shit
the middle tower has the giga hp bars
>>528914346their signatures give them the correct premium stats and an extra passive. That's way better than an extra resonance skill
>just turn off damage numbers broI don't need the fucking damage numbers, I KNOW this character is taking 50% longer to kill everything without their signature weapon.
Might as well argue that having less DPS means you play the game for longer and is therefore better.
You might have a point if their gameplay itself is somewhat deep or satisfying. But it really isn't.
>frog is a main DPS
easy skip
>>528914881You fail to answer how did all of this turn into "awful damage".
>>528914746I did too but I'll just keep using my Changli/Cantarella quickswap team. shan't be rolling for characters who can't function on their own
>>528914746BASED
BAAAAAAAAAAAASED
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Anons since jufufu flopped i will surpass her right?
>>528914945So you don't like the gameplay
You want to skip all the gameplay asap
The main product of the game is characters with gameplay kits
You obviously have some kind of mental defect playing a game you don't like. Why should anyone listen to you?
>>528915535....no lol, anyway, when are they buffing jinny lawrence? this bitch won't crit!
>Ok but how do restrictive kits make the game more fun?
>Fun?
>im not having fun (or playing the game at all) so you're not having fun!
Lol
>>528914969But thatโs based I am tired of subdps slop
>nooo x character needs to be universally good on every team and not reach it's full potential with specific teammates
lol
Which element is your favourite?
>>528916465is this the azur MC
>>528916482Cartethyia is aero, so that's my favorite element.
What the fuck is an element?
>>528916465>At first their MC looked like Aether>Now he's Blue RoverIs this the end of the cucked manlet MC?
>>528916759Schizophrenic wives
>>528915620The characters are the product, like you say. I want to have them. I roll for them for their looks.
I said this before but I don't need to delude myself into thinking that these characters feel good to play.
Like, I'm not gonna pretend I'm having fun using Zani in combat. No, she feels terrible to play despite looking very good.
And that's whatever, you know? It's a gacha game, of course I'm gonna get garbage if I don't cash out for her designated 5* teammate and signature. You don't have to convince me that it's a skill issue, that Kuro is actually good and generous, that these games are still f2p friendly, blah blah. We're past that. Just acknowledge the shitty f2p experience and move on.
>needed carty
>need lupa
>need frololo
>4 more needs coming
solon san yamete kudasai
>>528916759Is havoc the certified CUH-RAZY element? What does that say about havoc rover?
>>528914592post ur team for the left side bro
>>528916967Havoc roves is the power of dreamless anon
How did
Phro-lover
turn us all
into
Phro-haters...
I have an abandoned account from 1.0 with a bunch of trash, one green loli and two of that monk.
Should I just buy a starter account?
>>528916482In this order:
>havoc: 3 twintails (2 high, 1 low braids)>spectro: 2 twintails>fusion: 2 twintails (1 high, 1 low)>glacio: 1 twintails, 1 two-side up>aero: 1 low twintails>electro
>>528917123I'd say make new one, buying is fine and all but remember, you want the buyer to also include their mail since you cant unbind it
>>528916967Havoc Rover randomly gets headaches because he inherited his powers from Crownless (who also gets headaches)
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>>528917123Yes, or just start a new one (unless you have tons of saved astrite in the older one) which will allow you to roll for any 1.x character like shorekeeper.
>>528916970my sanhua is lvl 40 and basically unusable, I never even switched to her
>>528913052>can comfortably clear with rover unless massive skill issuepeople say this all the time but I've seen actual results of this on the previous spectro neutral tower before this one
>>528916465Rover's nose is so ugly it's unreal
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Why is no one talking about the new idol? She is cute
Back to exploring Black Shores. So much to do as a new player...
>>528916759Wuwa doesn't use elements. It has attributes. Completely different thing
>>528913076That "oku" kanji is a bit sus...
On the other hand, zoom your camera on Cartethiya when you fight, you won't see jackshit, but goddamn, her ears physics are somptuous...
Finally this is true, they just missed a few patches.
>>528917692GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN GENSHIN
i'm rolling lupa's weapon for calcharo
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>>528917395man you dont have proper dps for the left side, i think its better to use havoc rover - sanhua - verina if you dont have anyone else,that team a bit classic rover main dps but if you want to use cia you might want to use another quickswap unit and actually learn how to use verina better (example just jump attack when her forte has charged to get outro charge faster)
>all signatures now have some form of def ignored tackled into it because yes
sigh
atleast frog doesn't have straight up damage amp
so the optimal froglove team is cantarella, frog and shokie? or is roccoco going to be significantly better?
>>528918156canta frog rock is better. Dunno by how much though
>>528918156IS canta fro roccio(best team)
or shore fro roccio
>>528918317phrolova cantarella sk should be better than phrolova roccia sk
that summer heat really makes the brain damage of schizos flare up extra hard huh
>>528918156Probably few percents better, with the comfier grouping and slow effect of roccia + canta.
>>528916893You only deluded yourself into thinking the game is not fun because you are looking at retard dps charts made for retards.
Just like you said, the characters are the product. You wanted them. You got them.
Now SUDDENLY you are having a shitty experience? See how that makes zero sense?
The gameplay does NOT change if you swipe for signature weapons.
You don't have to get 30 stars on every tower. The repeatable endgame content is trash whether you are whale or f2p so it's pointless ever care about it.
>skill issue, that Kuro is actually good and generous, that these games are still f2p friendlyI never said any of this. This is literally all in your head. You are the only one making yourself miserable
Man, I'm trying Chixia but her damage is kind of ass. I guess that's what 4 star dps amount to for the most part. I now realize that Calchud's damage is pretty good in comparison and not that behind gacha 5 stars, he's just clunky to play.
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>>528918449The shizos live in tropical climate so the seasons don't matter much.
How do people even clear with jinny lawrence? I can't even clear the side towers with her, she just won't crit
Characters, kits and team rotations are just an excuse to justify the real gameplay of WuWa: gambling endlessly on echp substats. Getting 148 on Virtual Crisis is NOTHING compared to the pure ecstacy of getting 5 highlights on an echo you levelled straight to 25 on a whim.
Phrolova seems very intimate with Hecate...
>>528920169>calcharo uses hecate>hecate is in his deck>ESLs say deck like dickwhat did kuro mean by this?
IS HECATE MALE OR FEMALE?!
Should I prioritize on leveling my skills (forte circuit/liberation/etc..) or unlock substats like crit rate/dmg on my characters first?
>>528920489Echos and tacet discords do not have chromosomes, which we know are necessary to determine sex
>>528920489female and is also for (You)
>>528920718Skills. getting good echoes is the hamster wheel in this game.
Wait so Frog is completely reliant on Canta for her kit to even work? Well that sucks. I guess she still kinda works without but then Hecate is basically neutered.
>>528918919Obviously we are playing different games. You're fine with playing characters at 60% power and saying that the gameplay is exactly the same. More power to you.
I'm just gonna call it what it is, my ghetto Zani feels bad in combat.
Watching her tight ass in exploration is 10/10 but when I find an enemy she gets switched out instantly.
>>528920718I'm always genuinely confused by this question. Just level them all. Are you really worried about min-maxing across the maybe one week it takes to unlock everything?
>>528921819I don't have a lot of weekly mats because I'm trying to build like 6 characters at once
>>528921605Every released resonator since 2.1 is reliant on another resonator.
>>528921635The gameplay is the same whether you do 10 damage or 10,000 damage. Shit just dies faster, but the execution is the same, just for one of them you have to play the game more than the other.
>>528922103So what? it sells.
You want the game to do well or not?
>>528921605I'm more pissed that Canta is so reliant on Frog, I have no interest on the latter
Yinlin is a brick? I like her design...
>>528922414Augusta will NEED yinlin
>>528922509said no one except metafags, ever
>>528922169It's true
I've removed my signature from Zani and her echoes so in the overworld now after I do my full phoebe rotation I can fully use her liberation chain without things dying on the first swing and get to appreciate the full 6 swings.
holy fucking shit how cooked are you
They say synergy is the baseline, and get sad over dps loss when there's no synergy. I say no synergy is baseline, and get happy over dps gain with synergy. Choose your fate white man.
>>528922273I had no interest in Canta and a mild interest in Frog but seeing how they're paired so hard, I'll probably just skip Frog. Which sucks because I keep winning coinflips that put me ahead of my rolling plans but it is what it is.
Iuno my beloved, I'll be waiting.
>>528922273>>528921605Please explain... I'm too dumb to understand.
I can see that Cantarella's outro is BiS for Phrolova, but there are other outros you can use that are still decent, and I don't see anything else notable about the kits overlapping?
>>528922850>and I don't see anything else notable about the kits overlapping?It has to do with the fact that Frog benefits from echo skill activations and only Cantarella can provide those since her shit counts as echo skill. It's a stupid solution to a stupid problem.
gotta say, ZZZ did it right by making synergy a core concept right off the bat and making every character work with one another
>>528922850I just hate how Canta is barely playable by herself other than the Jinny team and the only way to make her a gamechanger is to pair her with frog, why is this the case when Phoebe and Cia are capable of wrecking shit by themselves despite being sub DPS?
>>528922850Cantarella does echo dmg (4), all other characters, other than roccia (2) and obviously phrolova on-field, do only one.
>>528923103You can just pair cantarella with sanhua and play her main dps just fine though
>>528922468Augusta is heavy attack, not liberation.
>>528923079It's super lame as well
only genshin does it well with its more free form elemental system, it's how people have manage to keep up with the powercreep with skilled play and knowledge
>>528923138clearly the problem in this game is the overabundance of damage types
>Basic attack>Heavy attack>Skill attack>Liberation attack>Echo attack>Spectro Frazzle>Aero Erosion>Havoc DoT>Glacio DoT>Fusion DoTThey need to remove some of these already because this is just stupid at this point
>>528923351>only genshin does it well with its more free form elemental system, it's how people have manage to keep up with the powercreep with skilled play and knowledgeThis hasn't been the case lately in GI either.
>>528923221Nah, her damage even when borrowing my Cammy's set is just horrid, not to mention a fucking breeze ruins her whole rotation every fucking time
>negative statuses bring only negatives, restrict team building, and bring no gameplay differences
Why are wuwa CCs accepting this
>>528923486Only now, as in like yesterday with the new mode, after 5 years, and I bet you someone's going to figure it out.
>>528923623>negative statuses bring only negativesNo shit, retard.
>>528923456No, the problem is not having ALTERNATIVES other than the premium limited 5*
>>528923703Ok, you got me there
Will Froglova's sequences save Cantylets
>>528923456It'll make sense once WuWa is 12 years old and the first direct powercreep occurs, trust the plan
>>528923726Watch Buling be completely useless just like Youhu and Lumi
>>528923726>who is sanhua for carte>who is encore for lupa>who is lumi/taoqi for phrolovaNice try concerncuck
>>528923456This game is so funny
>teaches you that square is basic attack>if you hold square that's heavy attack>triangle is skill>R2 is the liberationmeanwhile the characters like cammy:
>square is basic attack>hold square? that's also basic attack>triangle deals basic attack damage>R2? basic attack, duhwhat's the point of confusing people with these terms when you're not going to commit to it?
>>528923901>Youhu>UselessStop, you're triggering the Youhu mains.
>>528924089>Youhu mainsit's literally one dude who keeps calling her "sex"
>>528923976>who is lumi/taoqi for phrolovaYou can't be serious with this one
>>528923976>He doesnt think having Sanhua as the cope 4* for half the roster is not a problem>Lumi>TaoqiNow you're just trolling to make defenders look retarded