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Previous Thread: >>528760196

first for Lulunarde anus

>Sever JUGular
>they spam it on Asha
Fitting.

I will not be a filthy N*njer
I will class change my (Good) MC into honorabu samurai.

Here's your new legendary adventurer, bro.

>>528998292
You know game is a failure when you have to talk about it in another game's general.

>>528994295
*fist

>>528998207
can't wait for the evildoer and "neutral" anon (aka evildoer accomplice) melty when lord comes out goodlocked, and us goodCHADs who kept our masketto's heart and conscience pure all this time are rewarded for our faith

I didn't listen bros... I took both of them on despite the warnings....

What's the optimal farming strat for the ninja cave bwos? Just collect the treasures on B1f and wheel reset or do I have to fight everything in there aiming for drops?

How do you even get gemmies in this game? Is it mostly just log in bonus?

>>529001778
Mostly through apologems from inevitable fuck-ups from Drecom.

I'm so sorry, Elf-Pri...

>>529001138
I've been running around for the last 4 hours, mostly on the first floor, opening chests and have yet to receive ninja junk. I've read that fighting ninjas might have a higher chance of them dropping haze junk but no confirmation

Question: do you lose the sacrifices equipment as well?

>>529002137
No you're not.

REMINDER that becoming a ni*jer permanently flags your character. This'll likely be a check for when LORD releases.

LORD fucking SUCKS

>>529002917
Ninjers work for LORDS.

>>529003037
You already work for lords.

any cheesy or easy way to unlock the ninja class? I just wanna start leveling it early but the ninja boss is nasty...

GWOs, I'm almost there...

>>528998207
you're gonna have to wait for months gwo...

>>529003401
Not really, maybe instakill resist equipment could help, just be more offensive, bring the sleepy elf and the neutral man if you have them.

>see static FOE
>think it's scripted sentry that goes towards the count and disappears when seen
>yolo into it because i was chased by other pack
>it's cyclops
AIEEEEEEEEE ITS DOLL FLOOR
WHAT NOW

>>529004539
Either RISE AGAIN or be prepared for someone to probably take a 30 fort hit getting splat by the concentration attack.

>>529004539

>finish getting wanderer to 60 just in time for ninja
>have to do some shady shit to get it
>I'm a goodfag
>they added ways to adjust alignment as well

I'm not falling for it. Drecom is trying to give me a permanent evil flag on my account right before they finally give goodtards a bone.

>account flagged as EVIL
>locked out of GOOD classes
>"Too bad, anon, I guess you have to make a new account and spend mon- grind again"

Do not forget to unlock your friend before the final step of the ninja trail, or you'll fail and be forced to redo the floor.

>>529004669
>>529004762
I beat it at mere expense of 30 fort for two party members and half mp
Surely i can take doll too with fucking Kiriha in my party

>>529005196
>Account flagged as evil
>Cannot switch side during the Good vs Evil PvP event

I will just never become a nigger so my account won't get branded like some cattle

>>528998292
>Gook plastic porn dolls
In my wizg? Ninjas were dispatched

>>529005369
First try, no deaths, but was out of mana by the end of fight
Was afraid it would be far worse, but fight is much easier than F19 boss was

>>529001778
Daily 20
Daily Jew 10
Weekly 200
Shop weekly 50 +800 one time
Banners and events
Supplies 100 every 2 weeks
Maintance 200 weekly
Guild exchange 500 gems monthly

When you reset well you basically becomes another person anon. Just be a cool ninjer.

>>529006789
this equals to around 3500 monthly (not counting events and banners)
you need 18k or around 5 months' worth of gems to guarantee a character
I'm sad that I started playing a few weeks ago because I missed all the apologems, I heard they were huge

>>529003428
anon please stop
I stopped looking for the bondmate after failing to get even one copy of her

>>529007810
I'm two Hairpins away... I can do it, gwo...

>>529007513
Do not worry we'll most likely get more lmao

>>529007513
Damn that gem income is low AF. Are there any big one time sources? Does the story dungeons give much?

>>529007513
Yep. If you created account on first day you will be sitting on like 90k gems
>>529009889
Achievements give shit all like single give 20 gems, some rare can give 50.
There are also bones that you can get for specific class or for regular not banner adventurers. Some are farmable. Crucible in mausoleum offer 4-5 bones every second week. There are weekly and monthly bones. It's good source of tags, skills and disc fooder.

>>529008078
3. Do not forget you can get extra incense if you go over max

>>529010406
I'll save that part for when I clear out the other two routes (already finished Admiral).

Are goodfags really locked out of ninja? I tried to do the quest but it said something about bond.

>>529011043
Unlock your shitter first.

>>529009889
i started exactly 1 month ago and I have 18k
3.5k of that is from the monthly income
2.5k is from the old castle apologems
did all content in abyss 1-2 havent started 3 yet that's 12k, which is not bad honestly

>>529005832
By the time I finally finish Guarda, we’ll be able to become Lords anyway.

Been wanting to try this out for a while but on release the apk just refused to install for me because of the region cuck cage and only now did I notice it came out on Steam. How close is this to the Sir-Tech games? Monetization sounds pretty greedy, but how impactful is it gameplay-wise?

>>529016072
>monetization sounds pretty greedy
It is. It actually makes anons that usually spend on gachas not want to
Just get used to skipping 2 banners or so every time
>how impactful is it gameplay-wise?
Not much if any

>>528998292
What game

>>529016072
Reroll until you get the team you want and then pretend the game is a single player RPG without banners

>>529016354
>>how impactful is it gameplay-wise?
>Not much if any
Anon, skills literally start doing less damage than basic attacks unless you level them up with dupes. The gacha is extremely important for progression.

Freedom from Marin hell... finally...

>>529016583
I finished true ending guarda with lvl1 spells and heavy strike
Plus all those things you can get from the normal bones you get by playing and resting the game every week

>>529016583
With the advent of FPS, dupes are much less of a concern.
Whaling will make you a demigod sure, but is not like being f2p will lock you out of content or make it autism only.

>>529016660
>poison tolerance

>>529016583
>The gacha is extremely important for progression.
based doesn't play the game poster

>>529017002
Eh having tzalikman trivialized most content for me.

>>529018763
He certainly can help with his 20 MP 1000 nukes but you also can clear without him

>>529017002
FPS can still miss, see F19 succubi
Tazlikman has 100% chance to hit and easier to use than FPS

>>529018763
You don't need tzalikman dupes to make him work tho, not even generic skill books
And it was very reasonable to get him when he launched

>Way of the knight Alex drops
Wow, that's pretty good, who should I give it to gwos ? Sheli looks like a pretty good choice to me but on the other hand she already has a passive to help her survive bullshit hits

>>529019185
Did you know that those damage reduction passives stack? They can both proc and make you take 0 dmg

>>529019153
Now that's just ACC/gear issue, not really a dupe one.

>>529019552
Sounds as either you never cleared F19, or you relied on Tzalikman too much to notice the struggle

>>529019326
Ofc ofc, but I'm not sure Sheli really needs it considering she already has great survivability with no inherits. Maybe it would be more valuable for a squishier character ?

did they fix the freeze bug?

>>529019125
Well yeah but it's exponentially harder.

>>529019871
I didn't even use tzalikman for castle, 150 acc + macaldia was more than enough for the melee's to fold the succ's.
Hell my tzalikman has like shit MAG gear because i didn't need the crutch in so long.

>not posting the party and party power
You just know

>>529014436
you dont need to finish guarda just clear floor 1

>roll 50 general bones
>vit boon lana (fuck off)
>iq boon yeka
>fps elda and 2 sneak attack milanas
what now

>>529020563
That's not a problem, here you have it
>inb4 sheli you didn't beat the game

I haven't been paying much attention to the game recently, what is this about the Masked Adventurer's personality?
Can we finally change alignments now?

>>529021013
BerkanGOD
Do you use her as a Mage or Warrior?

>>529019871
nigga, not him but i beat it with 0-1 disciplined team
asha,yeka,marianne,barabra and somebody else

>>529021928
Main warrior, but she does have a staff on the bag for some edge cases i need extra heals/debuffs
On the castle she was 100% meatshield and healbot, i don't think she did a single attack on the enemies during the whole boss rush.
I do want to try some memes and use my generic skill books on her skill and swap to mage tho

>>529021013
Man, that's the exact same team I use, only difference is that I swal Shelli and Milana's places, nice to know that it can fully clear the castle when fully leveled/geared

>>529023113
Unfortunately i did end up using 3 mana pots, i my gear is like 70% steel and 20% iron, so enemies were chipping me out even on full defense strats.
Berk is D1, and Milana is D3.

where does Sheli place on the tier list?

I'll pretend I didn't see that

>>529022303
So basically without tzalikman you're forced to do the defend meme.

>meme

>>529025292
>Defend? You didn't beat the game
Bro my tzalikman hits for 1k, just one hydra plant has 40k hp, he's good but he's not the one stop solution to all problems.
But feel free to chew thru all of that with regular attacks tho, don't let me stop ya

bro never beat the tutorial mimic because he refused to do the meme

>>529025665
>Only 1k
Skill issue desu

>>529025292
Ojisan big number screencaps are not indicative of real world performance. Before Tzalikman fucking Benjamin was hitting 5k heavy strikes.

>>529025976
Absolutely, mage gear just refuses to drop, all my casters are starving atm
But one day....

>>529025192
Max loose
Mid Fragrance
Max Light

>>529026239
Yeah it's hard to farm, but it's the way to go because you'll be hitting 1.5k nukes before Crit. I think some Anon posted a video where level 3 was hitting 8k Crits or something.

>>529026431
If i mental unity i do hit for 1.5k, i'm still there, farming gear, surely one of these days i'll get a staff that isn't white.
Just a couple thousand more junk.

>Got 0 ninja junk in the ninja caves
Does the junk cap out at 5? I'm getting 4 junk that has a mix of steel and ebonsteel.
I've already got the good end for Guarda and my party is already near max level with only my MC as a level 56 thief.

>>529026239
do the ninja event quest

>>529027701
the chests in the poison puddles give ninja junk

>>529027701
ninja junk cap on 3stars blue

>>529027980
nice try enemy ninja

>>529027991
Fucking why?

>>529028198
its ebin grade tho

>Cast MAREIN
>Instantly wipe out an entire row of skeletons
>Party member congratulates me
Feels good man.

>>529028546
>That was kinda lame...

>>529028694
Bibiana would say that

>people used to say that DEF was a brick and high EVA meant you'd never get hit
>read the last thread
>people are saying that EVA is a brick and you're better off stacking DEF
WHO DO I TRUST?!

>>529029175
just b urself

>>529029175
Ignore both stack attack and surety, can't die if you kill them first

>>529029175
Eva is bricked because drecom forced the meta to change. It's still good for most content up to end of abyss 3.

>>529029175
Eva is good except the last few new enemies come with 300 accuracy so they straight up go through

>>529029175
You need BOTH

Chloe excited for her daily cleaning.

>>529029175
Stacking too far either way is a brick. Just get good eva and when new gear comes out grind that shit because it automatically has higher def.

>>529029175
You get DEF until the end of abyss 1, then you stack EVA until the very end of guarda good ending, after that you go back to DEF maxxing

>>529029874
What's different with good end Guarda? I thought gwo3 was easy to evade against?

>>529030050
Bad ending he gets absolutely rocked by EVA that you might never get hit the whole fight, but Good ending he starts hitting you with roars and tentacle punches
And for good ending you have to fight the infinite accuracy gamblers.

>prepare Full Power Strike
>get paralysed
>priest cures it before my turn comes
>FPS still gets interrupted
Huh?

>>529030909
Yep. FPS gets stuffed easily, that's why other skills exist.

>>529030909
you lost concentration

>>529027980
You have no honor, shamefur dispray anon-kun...

I got no Rinne, and I'm not willing to wait another 6 months to have enough green gems to get a guaranteed pull.
So, I uninstalled this game.
Have fun, you ghouls.

another gachatard accepted death

ok, bye

>>529031950

ok bye lol
enjoy your next gacha you want to play as a free2poor retard and quit again because you didn't get what you wanted and you continue the cycle

protip: get a job lmao

WTF. Via reddit:

For characters with a personal quest, if you go to the training room and tap the character 3 times you can revert them to their old appearance.

>>529031950
K, adios

>

>>529032786
Yes. It was discovered after new patch dropped. Some people even posted wbms
No reason not to do quests now. Wonder when or if they will also add easy class outfit changes

>>529031950
Hope you come back in the future

Thanks for reminding, I'll go do Debra cat's quest now.

>>529031950
See you tomorrow

Reminder to do not redeem ninja. It will brick your account as you will be unable to switch to samurai class.

>>529032998
I kinda doubt they'll do that. Class outfits for the general characters are themed for their regional culture, which is why all the characters from similar regions (i.e. Galina, Elise, Flut are all northern mountain elves) have similar outfits for each class.

>>529029175
Abyss 1-3, eva is king. Current hard mode/optional content, eva is bricked.

Domesticated knight cat is kinda cute, but I'll still revert to the masketta cat. No counterattacks, sorry.

>>529027914
I'm doing it, but my party isn't doing so hot right now
The ninjas tried 11 insta-kills, 10 worked

>>529034549
Grats ! Now do it a second time for the true end

>>529029175
EVA. You can bullshit your way through the gimmick EVA ignoring encounters with your GOD HAND, while being invincible to everything else. As for the new ninja cave you just Masolotu and blind the enemy with EVA gear on and you're fine

>>529032998
>No reason not to do quests now.
The reason is there's no loot of consequence and I can just watch it 2x on Youtube or something if I cared (I don't)

>>529034549
Honestly I had more success with spamming La-spells and rinne aoe.

The only problem is the confusion messing things up.

>>529035573
That's what i did, Berk and Sheli and even Alice were AoE'ing, but the ninjas just never fuckin stopped critting, berk couldn't even unload the whole mp bar due to it.

>>529034924
In 12 hours i'll go back into the decapitation party

I love how the whole party starts talking over each other praising you after landing a critical

>>529036269
fasterthought wiki said the ninjer boss are vulnerable to confusion, might worth a try on 2nd run?

It's kinda weird that after a pretty tedious and hard ninja dungeon we unlock a super piss easy ninja trial.

>>529030909
That's why you never use fps against enemies with debilitate moves. Use HS3 instead.

>>529036686
I tried as a opener with 2 of the mages, no luck on the frontline, so i just went for AoE's

I cursed wheel'd but the normal guild requests are still gone, is this a known bug?

>>529020846
Don’t you need to clear Guarda to unlock the second part where you actually unlock Ninja?
Did /wizg/ lie to me again?

>>529031950
Damn sucks Anon. I only have 12000 gems left so if a big tiddy dark elf comes out and I fail to D1 her I'm done as well

Hope you have fun in whatever new game you're playing.

>>529036686
Is it actually vulnerable or the usual 'it's better than never' vulnerable?

>>529037119
Unfortunately kantios spell itself is kinda shit without levelling it up or having high mag.

Probably it's just that they are not immune to it.

>>529037065
Can't check for myself, but on >wiki they say "Part 2: Achieve any ending for Abyss 3"

So is it better to give Rinne equipment or keep her naked?

>>529037119
The only thing that they seemed "vulnerable" to was the evasion down from baltgref.

>>529035508
Look and voice lines change. Also sometimes you get some stuff

>>529032998
i might still sit on Debra's quest because its easy undead for the kill missions.

>>529037725
You need stats to do actual damage, so...

>>529033518
>Class outfits for the general characters are themed for their regional culture
Lol. It's just that they picked one outfit for every [race, class change] and palette swapped it according to element. Every male Elf mage looks like Dino because of laziness not because it's their ancestral garb.

>>529038507
Depends where anon wants to use her

>>529038757
actually its because all knife ears rook same

>>529040257
Retard

>>529040257
Except Olive. She gets to look unique because Drecom decided every other female Elf Fighter should copy Elise's drip (they are from the same mountain village, trust me).

So, if I keep Rinne the ninjer elf at level 20, how many martial training dispatches she needs for max exp?

>>529042209
2.5 weeks of martial training dispatches being repeated off cooldown.

>>529042367
So mid July, well, not like I have any equipment for her.

The kunais are not dropping bwos...I spent ~4 hours and got nothing to show for it. Fuck this meme weapon.

>>529042367
my martial traning is bugged and my lv 30+40 keeps failing the dispatch

>>529045373
Did you remember to put gear and fill their inventories with hp pots/scrolls?

>>529045373
give them gear and potions

>>529044496
Can they even drop from regular mobs, i only found four tier sand junk

>>529045373
Iirc you need ~2300 combat power to not fail.

>>529045742
They can but kinda rare, I got x2 Heat junk from a gold chest dropped from the insect encounter.

>>529045742
I've found a handful of heat haze junk off the random chest spawns but i've only gotten armor so far

Is Rinne good?
Is Rinne's weapon good?

Do you reset the wheel if you're just farming fordraig for the battlepass

>>529032634
Simping for gacha is unironically cringier than announcing your exit.

>>529047540
if i still needed swords i would

>>529037562
>Have to beat guarda once
fine, I'll stay at fighter for a little longer, gotta max it out and lvl 30 Rinne is a little too squishy anyways...

>>529047118
Maybe.
It’s steel tier, with nothing particularly special about it besides high base Surety which will grow as you upgrade it, so definitely not worth specifically trying to get.
There were ancient whispers it had a hidden property that made it deal full damage in the offhand instead of reduce, but this is almost certainly false.

Does bringing Rinne to the Sand Cave do anything? Because for some strange reason, the boss fight only crit-killed my adventurers twice out of 10 attempts. Does she reduce their crit chance or something? Or was I just that damn lucky on my first try?

>>529051458
luck,
first round I only had 1 char go down and I got them back up
second round I had to use a flame

>>529051458
My party have had nothing but crits with Rinne on my team

>>529051458
Ninja Squad is a complete RNG bullshit like The Doll and Gaymblers.
I tried the second fight maybe 6 times, usually with 5/6 dudes crited, and on my victory try they only instagibed Lana.

>tfw 3 hours later
only 52 more to go boys

>>529053659
explode

>>529053659
How ? Haven't seen a single ninja piece yet

>>529055483
heat haze junk
i've just been picking up the chests that spawn on f1
I get maybe 1 in 20 if I'm lucky
do later floors have better drops? idk the answer

>>529055781
...Are you perhaps supposed to farm the proving grounds and not the cave to get that ?

>>529055935
no thats where you farm them from Heat Haze junk its a low % drop ofc because why not
Optimal route is just Floor 1 grabbing whatever chests and restarting
The Ninja Trial dungeon only has Potions and shit aon the chests.

>>529055935
those closed after I unlocked ninja and I haven't tried to go back
if the rates are better there please tell me

>>529056309
>>529056328
Ty, almost thought I was farming the wrong place for hours like a retard. Well, back to the mines I guess

Can we please get content that isn't another fucking cave? It could be exactly the same shit just not in a cave and I'll be happy. Fuck.

>>529057126
Looks like you're not savoring it anon !

>>529031950
you wouldn't want a bricked class anyway. that shit gets nerfed every patch and only decent at lvl 60. Samurai will mog ninja in 2 weeks anyway.

>>529057126
Good news! Next Dungeon is a forest

>>529059276
>floor 1 is a forest
>floors 2-15 are snow caves with sliding ice

>>529059276
the forest will have caves in it

Hehehe, lucky me I'm going to kys myself

>Abyss 4 is actually a hub area with multiple side 'dungeons' spread across it
>each area houses a macguffin needed to fight the GWO
>you're able to do each dungeon in any order

>>529059456
>sliding ice mechanics on a dungeon crawler
Kino

>>529060320
>the dungeons are all caves

>>529060320
That'd be cool desu
But a mess to code I bet

We all love damp caves around here

>>529060320
>All dungeons are reskinned caves
>Bosses are reskins of previous bosses
>Have to wheel and redo each dungeon 3 times with minimal differences to get the "true" macguffin

>>529061959
Good. More apologems for us.

>>529060320
>snowy forest area
>abandoned mine (obligatory cave)
>haunted mansion

wheres my ninja gear drops drecom. this isnt funny anymore.

>>529063280
they could at least have the decency to put some in the sand shadow junk...

why do enemy ninjas get 100% accuracy critical ranged attacks but my ninja just gets brapification...

>>529064030
Our ninjas were trained wrong as a joke, that's why they can't even use DOTON.

>DOTON
>DOTON
>DOTON
>accept death
AIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Rinne better learn some awesome ninja skills when she levels up to 70.

>>529064713
She'll learn Poison Mist

1 haze junk in 2 hours of farming, and it was 1-star white tabi

>>529066295
imagine the smell

Well, at least the dungeon is good for thief pass completion...

>Players can't complain about nerfing drop rates if they are shit to begin with
We just can't see the vision

I can see the vision.

fine...

>managed to kill helmut
>game starts over
>lost all interest in playing
well I guess that's it
game seems so washed out and characters are boring, uninspired or ugly

the audacity

>>529070431
You sound like a lame bitch, stunned you even got that far

>>528998406
True and real

>>528999258
If your masketta cant dissipate you are forever bricked
>>529003401
I have 3 mages a thief and masketta(fi) and alice pri.
I quite literally just batilgref spammed LA spells and heavy attack 4ed them down one by one.
They seem to have 80 or so speed. My two 83+ outsped but my 78 thief did not.

Sheli got crit a singular time. Nobody else died.

>>529019871
NTA but I never used my tzalik man once. Hes in dispatch mines permanently carryinf others to 60.
Floor 16 17 18 19 20 were a joke. Its really an acc diff.
I just heavy attack 4 spam the adds then defended til each boss died of openings. Barely spent mana or sp each fight

>lobosjr stream went from 1.2k 2 hours ago
>now ~900
wizkekbros. . .

>>529070838
wanted to see if the game improves but it's really mediocre

>>529070838
just the fate of wizardry in the west

>>529033917
>but I'll still revert to the masketta cat
They added the option to select the visual now?

>>529076091
triple click three times in the training room

>>529057126
Next event will be in a ~Grotto~

>>529060320
>>529062798
Sign me in, snowy forests and haunted mansions in JRPGs are cool as hell

>>529070431
Ok, bye. Adiós sodomite

>>529070431
>characters are boring, uninspired or ugly
>Daphne's art direction
>Boring and uninspired
You might want to get your eyes checked bro

>>529070431
>characters are boring, uninspired or ugly
I bet you're that sodomite that was shilling dungeon stalkers

>>529077927
>Literally just generic fantasy/dark fantasy designs but the game looks like it was dev'd in the ps2 era
well at least yekaterina is fairly unique

Non cave locations for events
>Vampire castle (Castlevania collab?)
>Egyptian tomb
>Poison swamp (Blighttown)
>Obligatory floating islands of an ancient civilization with teleporters
>Crime syndicate's hideout
>Deconsecrated temple
>Wizard tower
>Alien spaceship
>Climbing a mountain/volcano
>Elven tree village

>>529079539
best i can give you is more caves with the last floor having 1 tile themed after after each of those for the final boss fight(that you have to beat 3 times for true end)

>>529079539
believe it or not, all caves.

>You do have to fight the boss 5 ninja pack again
Welp, everyone is dead 0 fort again, the church is making bank today.

>>529080662
doton'd

>>529080384
>>529080223
C-can you at least make it a crystal cave or something? You can even have invisible enemies.

Cave exploring Lana's cave with my bros!

Btw, how does the trial work?
Can i bring my regular team to the first part and then ditch everyone and go grab the sacrificial furry?

>>529078987
It's fairly conventionnal but not generic by any means. Characters have nice outfit and well defined facial features, I really like how it merges with the overall sobriety of it. Character design doesn't have to reinvent the wheel to be inspired and aesthetically pleasing

>>529083426
>>529077927
everything looks washed out and characters are just generic anime bland characters

>>529078501
I don't know what the fuck dungeon stalkers is

>haven’t played for 2 days
SHIT WHAT HAVE I MISSED

>>529086430
Name three animes looking like that

>>529087437
Nonja caves and Nonja Class for (You)

>>529087437
2 dailies, your account is bricked

>>529088045
>rolled 33 times on Rinne
>nada enchilada
LOL 6k GEMS DOWN THE DRAIN FUCK THIS GAY EARF

>>529087437
WE'RE N***AS NOW ANON, WE'RE ALL N***AS IN HERE NOW

>>529091056
STOP ROLLING WITHOUT HAVING ENOUGH FOR SPARK YOU DUMB RETARDS

>>529079539
Guarda pretty much qualifies for vampire castle
Deconsecrated temple
And poison swamp

But i do understand you said events.

>>529087719
there are a million animes that look like shit

Is there any special rewards for reviving the gwo, like octonarus

How strong is the Rinne Row attack on MC?

>>529095445
The actual Abysses so far are pretty varied. It's the god damn events that are just mostly different caves.

>Critical!
>Critical!
>Critical!
>Critical!
Yep I'm out
Ninja life is not for me
>>529096287
I think you can get some white 1* collar from it

Pulled 90 times a few months earlier just to get a rinne. Now event bone gives me a free one. What do i use it on, MC so i can say he has a jutsu, or just go with skill lv2 on rinne?

>>529094209
S-spark…?

>>529097053
its alright, its not going to blow your mind but if you need a row attack that scales with atk its ok

>>529098359
the skill is pretty mediocre til 3. so if u dont mind spending 4 purples on top of the dupe sit on her.

>>529099689
Why is it mediocre until 3? What does lvl 3 do that makes it worthwhile?

So what places you leveling your MC ninja? Shit looks like a pain in the ass, wish I could dispatch masketta man ffs

>>529100268
I say it's pretty good even at lvl1
A magic row attack that ignores MagDef is pretty good

>>529100773
Can you use the books on MC?

>>529101458
well yes but I'm nowhere near for the amount required for lvl 60, I used my stock and got lvl 25 lol.

>send main team on a dispatch
>Oops! Doubt Trap
>EVERYONE distrusts (You)
>Morale decreases

>>529100773
the shadow sand cave so I can work on getting more kunais
the 2 ninja packs give like 8.5k xp

I got 1 Rinne! I can Disciple or give skill to MC.

>>529101458
Books are only good for leveling up a shitter for that one weekly task when you're too lazy to play.

Finally got WLana inherit skill at max. What do I do with dupes now? Level up Classic version discipline?

This kunai is brought to you by RAID: Shadow Sands, the most crit-tastic cave this side of Guarda! Sign up to be a ninja using promo code: ELF-PRI to start with 5 Heat Haze junk!

>>529103953
Either level up the Discipline or feed it to your Masketta Man for times when you don't have Lana in your party.

>>529103981
what is a duel between friends?
>:)

I'm pretty sure you can actually swap boons when class changing
Something like certain Classes are forbidden from having x boon so the system gives them another random one
My Ophelia shows a Vit boon as a Knight yet I'm more than certain she didn't have a Vit boon as a Warrior

They changed the icons for items like Mimic semen and Scrolls

>>529105754
They also finally unfucked the inventory stack too.

Remember to do your Mausoleum before reset

>>529106554
I would
If those fuckin ningers stopped critting my party

>>529104124
Does her skill not stack? If I have her in party and MC has it, is it a bigger heal, or it just takes the highest level?
Also, what does art of assassination from the missions do? Is it a normal ninja skill?

>>529108261
I'm pretty sure it will only activate the larger of the two heals.

>beat the ninja final battle, felt kinda lucky but we did it with only one casualty
>die
>have to do it again
Don't tell me it gets harder the next time...

>>529110162
It's the exact same fight.

>>529110162
Make sure you also know the way out. I felt genuine dread as I wandered around after with normal encounters still walking around, 4 of us dead and potions dwindling.

>>529106554
Ah shit. You'd think I'd learn to stop putting it off. But on days that I don't want to play I just do dailies and log out, and on days that I do play I don't want to end my session getting junk from the chests.

>>529106026
Just noticed that Sinister Whisper trap also shows which characters were affected by it (new animation)

>>529106554
Hmmm nyo i dont think i will this week(unless jarmil and gandolfo are in there)

WHAT

>>529114413
Women lie about their age all the time anon.

>>529114662
Lulu would never lie to me she loves me too much

>>529114705
That's the biggest lie of all

>>529115405
Kek

>>529106554
Someone should show Milana being betrayed at the ninja trial.

Ninja Dual Wield for Fighter any good?

>>529124358
bwo it's a <Ninja-Specific> skill, no other class can use it.

>>529124358

>they added a tab to separate junk/ores/skill books/etc from consumables
Based John Drecom

>>529124358
thank john drecom for fixing that "bug" 2 months ago

>Aiiieeeee, my eyes!

>>529125183
>took them almost a year to do the most obvious QoL improvement
These devs really should play their own game.

>>529125183
It still counts into inventory

>>529127929
what's the problem gaijin, 1k slots not enough for you? you DID buy out all the slots, right?

>>529127929
That wasn't the issue.

sex with lulunarde

>>529128636
It absolutely is ONE of the issues with inventory right now.

>>529131962
>replying to elmonposter
Even as pitybump, not allowed

>>529132652
I have no idea who that is.
Haven't been in these threads since forever ago.

>>529131962
Like I said, that wasn't the issue. I just hated having to sift through a bunch of shit looking for certain consumables.

>>529131962
Just buy more inventory space.

>you can't use your hand of reversal unless you have image in your mind
>form a complete image in your mind
How Lulu knows that? I'm pretty sure that rule never was mentioned in A1 and A2 or events

>>529137330
How many times do you have to be beat over the head that Lulu is the sorcerer trapped in the abyss

>>529137330
Also, does this mean we are canonically imagining cute girls or fat ugly dwarves when roll the gacha?

>>529138065
>pile of bones belongs to Alice
>Nah, you're turning into Dwarf-Kni

>>529107248
make use of mage nukes and priest marein criticals

>please don't think about elf-pri
>please don't think about elf-pri
>elf-pri
>warlock fucking damn it

>think of Chloe
>get this
>repeat 50 times

>>529124479
My god damn double mage dagger Mage build dreams, shattered.

>>529141647
That'd be really cool with Milana. Thematically, if nothing else.

Thieves will get dual weild at level 69, trust.

>>529141647
Sorry gwo, no fun allowed
>>529124358
Dual wield is overrated, it's not working with any but 1(one) skill, and that skill is shit. You can use it for just auto attacking, but damage will be small compared to skills
Instead of this, ninjas should just be able to use shuriken in left hand, and for right hand either their swords or dagger. Daphne ninjas is a class in it's concept, though hopefully future skills/passives will fix it same way as fighters and knights were fixed later.
Still, i wish there was a special backpocket for shurikens.

So what is this 'flags your account if you do the ninja class change quest' I heard about? Does it lock you out of something?

>>529142881
Nobody knows. Probably some bullshit months later.

>>529143059
Well that sucks. Should I bother with doing the class change? Is Ninja MC potentially worth bricking your account later on?

if you do the ni*gger class change it flags your account as an evil faggot and you will never become an honorabu samurai

>>529142287
Bro they didn't even get Advanced Sneak Attack at 45. Imagine if John Drecom wasn't a coward and Thieves could match Fighter's FPS.

>>529143279
Maybe you can only have one advanced class to somewhat limit Masketta's power. Becoming a Ninja doesn't actually make you Evil for Alice's row buff right?

>>529143059
if nobody knows then is this shit just made up? wtf

>>529143993
>Becoming a Ninja doesn't actually make you Evil for Alice's row buff right?
It fills alignment shift progress bar by ~90%
You can also shift it by choosing ambush option instead of ignore(neutral) or plead(good)
>>529144098
It was mentioned in discord private datamine channel.

>>529143160
>Is Ninja MC potentially worth bricking your account later on?
Impossible to say at the moment. Samurai is coming soon but I doubt they'll let Masketta change into one immediately, since that would cut into the Samurai banner's sales. But at least you'll have an idea of what you might potentially be giving up in case advanced classes are exclusive.

>>529144259
i dont mean to be rude but that literally answers nothing, you're spouting shit with no substance

guarda sentinels respawn? how annoying

>>529144259
>You can also shift it by choosing ambush option instead of ignore(neutral) or plead(good)
Is a new thing added to this update? I plead every time because sometimes it skips the fight and I didn't become Good.

>>529142412
the only reason I like dual wield is because I want to use both hands for weapons, and 2hders fucking suck

so you want to trigger all the flying sentinels?

>>529144259
I doubt you'll get permanently bricked. John drecom will probably make you kill 1000 gwos to revert alignment or flag

>>529144585
yes

How long is guarda if I'm in the underground now, rather hyped for ninja, anyone can give an estimate?

>>529144997
Logically, a time traveling ubermensch should be above morality. Sure you can't reverse the sacrifice, but you can just go back in time so it never happened in the first place, while retaining whatever esoteric Ninja knowledge you gained.

>>529145239
I cleared everything past the corridor in two days, because i had to recover from resets and wait for fortitude. Bad ending unlocks the ninja cave btw, you just have to get it

>>529104680
He seems genuinely betrayed...
Is there a compilation with how each character reacts yet?

>>529145460
thanks, I guess it's longer than port town, I cleared that in one focused sunday

So when is Rinne getting her class change?

>>529145865
next week when samurai comes, trust the plan

>>529145695
8-10 push is somewhat long because you have to go 8->10->8->10 pattern and there were few times FOEs are just stacked not fairly. Have to fight or reset and phase through
It should be possible to clear within one day though, it's just me being unlucky to run into FOEs

>gang wars
>steal from each other
>would doton ackbar you if they dont get their way
>live in hidden passages
>only attack you in groups
i am not saying they are what they are but it is what they are

>>529146323

>>529144997
IMO, they've been good when updates bricked things so far.
They gave out free well of the mind resets when the fighter proving grounds came out and ossuary bones from Mariannes.

I think my game is bugged
I'm going crazy
I went to fresh start
found Mudd on B1f
found his corpse on b2f
curse wheel back to fresh start
find him on b1f
tell him to get out
go to b3f
explore the WHOLE FUCKING MAP
and he's just not there
I did this shit like 5 times and I'm on the border of uninstalling this fucking trash heap of a game
please tell me I'm doing something wrong

>>529095605
But none that look like Daphne, got it chief

>>529147560
I had to go explore a bit into b4f before I could find him on b3f my second time. Might have to get to the part when you save Maurice so that Mudd can go into that side room after you meet him on b3f.

...

>>529149915
Don't forget to screenshot her reaction to the ninjer special, gwo

>>529147560
He's generally at the furthest room to the right of the map
Just go to the entrance of the goblin cave and go north from there

>>529150201

>>529150376
Oh, so it's not a unique line for each character >>529104680

The literal Danielfags are growing too powerful…

>>529149798
holy shit you're a genius it worked
thanks man I was seething so much

>>529150567
Unique lines would encourage people to start sacrificing everyone to see them all.

>expecting drecom to spend time and resources on unique betrayal reactions
y'all...

>>529150750
Ninja skills unlocked based on how many you sacrifice.

>>529150652
Maybe I'll sacrifice Daniel.

You levelled up?

>>529150952
Wait, seriously?

>>529150704
Yeah it's counterintuitive as fuck. Glad to help.

>>529151072
Don’t believe /wizg/‘s lies without proof or you’ll really turn into a warped one, gwo.

the moment you opened the thread you already started becoming a gwo, there is no escape

>>529150989
>He ends up being the one to sacrifice you
Nothing personnel, Masketta. I'll always remember the love we shared.

So how many of you like the 'no harken but you learn to unlock shortcuts' method that the ninja event have?

>>529151425
>he casts marerin
>turns out you're undead
>nothing personal kiddo

>>529151445
its how the game should have been just like in any other blobber and limit the harkens only to the middle point and last floor

>>529151445
lookin for feedback already eh?
it makes for a pretty neat cave, keep up the good work John.

>>529151843
>implying John Drecom cares about the opinions of non-Japanese ojisans regardless of how fat or bald they may be

After clearing second ninja cave adventurer items(equipment and consumables) teleport into your inventory, so you can just equip your sacrifice with best gear so it wouldn't die
It seems to be coded as retiring adventurer

>>529150376
NOOOOOOOOO

>>529152182
That’s nice of them, but the gwo in me says that this risk isn’t savory enough to really enjoy…

How important are the left hand weapon stats for ninjers ? I'm on the fence about ditching the dagger of corrosion I've been using on my Kiriha for ages but that def down is nice

>>529153632
>How important are the left hand weapon stats for ninjers?
Depends if they're left handed. You DO know your party member's handedness, right? You're not some third rate Masked Adventurer, are you?!

>>529153632
It's statstick unless you use covert strike
Mine also uses dagger of corrosion since the times when you had x2 application rate. Probably should change to anti-undead daggers

When do you use FAS? Before enhancing?

would you rather
>Lick Livana's armpits after a day of adventuring
>Suck on Lana's toes after retrieving the monster bird egg
or
>Kiss Sheli's butthole before a bath
?

>>529154782
Livana

>>529154782
Where's the option to rub my ponos against Abenius's sweat-drenched stocking?

>>529143059
You mean ignore shifts you into neutral or just that it doesn't change alignment? I've wanted a way to become neutral ever since I learned about Lana and Alice's passives

>>529146323
The police think they can shoot a ninja in the back just because he's a ninja?

>>529156607
I fucked up, meant to quote:
>>529144259

>>529156981
Ninja moment.

why is Elmon so excited about this dirty little girl I found in the slums

>>529154548
first thing you do

>>529154782
Slorp on Alice's ear like a popsicle

>>529159168
Elmon is actually a goblin in disguise.

>>529159393
gobs shouldn't be this sexy

>>529159587
>in disguise

the disguise stays on

>>529144585
Yes, before it was like 1000 times weaker

>>529159640
I mean, if it's indistinguishable...

>>529148482
it's the style, retard

>>529154782
Stab you in the eye

>>529160620
I'm sorry for your chronic shit taste retardgod

I like how everyone does their best to keep me away from traps.

>>529172195
>Is this idiot really walking towards that obvious trap?

>>529172704
they're a lot better at spotting them than I am

>>529172918
Chloe's the only character I regularly use that has never detected a trap before.

does anyone else sometimes deliberately walk into unexplored poison tiles just to satisfy your map autism

>>529174534
getting rewarded by that chest with two fresh azure ores is always worth it.

>>529174534
Every tile must be manually traversed. No exceptions.

Masketta Ghul is so stupid he can't see any map traps.

I fucking LOVE getting those little faggots on the daily quest

>>529176312
Why isn't he afraid of traps? it just doesn't make any since

>>529176548
hope thats ninja masketto...

>>529176654
Getting tricked can be very scarring to some people and leaves them with trust issues.

TOTAL NINJER DEATH

>have right hand of reversal
>can revive people who have been dead for centuries even if only their bones are left
>can also revive people who just got insta-killed a second ago
>can use this power with seemingly no limit, reversing hundreds upon hundreds of bones
>but if you don't immediately revive one of your party members you have to take their corpse to the church and pay the tax
?????????????????????

Jesus Rinne has 0 hp. Maybe vit boon isnt so bad after all

>>529178928
Gwo, your Sheli inherit?..
You did roll her 6 times just to inherit her into everyone in the party, right?

Rinne SUCKS! No 2nd job? She is a BRICK!

>>529178928
>hp
>vit boon
nobody tell him...

>>529178928
But don't affect hp anon. Well maybe like 20 to 1. Maybe

VIT will be fixed when the 4th dungeon comes out, trust the plan.

>>529178928
nice joke lol
just give her sanctuaries blessing and way of the knight inherit from alex when you find one

>>529178928
if she was able to be the evadegod she should be it wouldn't be a problem...

>>529100268
Damage. 2 still doesnt add anything for most skills/spells. And all breakpoints for more damage is at 3. Go use heavy 2 and heavy1 then3 Its plain as day. MoF is exactly the same

>>529182750
didnt they balance breakpoints out more for evens or was that only for a few skills or something

>>529182875
Maybe. Nobody tested it tho.

>>529182875
They literally had a list of changed skills and they mostly lowered mp/sp costs from previous amounts

What are magical beasts? I am so far behind on this mission pass.
Are these even "rare" skills?

>>529183461
weird, figured nips would be on that

>>529183967
bnuuys and fishmen are beasts, but magical beings, the kill targets, are slimes and fart clouds

not yet

>>529192764
Please put your helmet back on.

>>529192764
im sacrificing her now

>>529193537

>>529198456
AAAAAIIIIIEEEEEEEE

>>529198456
>Man from the Abyss... What if the balls got hard too?

>>529206506

>>529208362
He's got a point.
What if they DID get hard too?

What debuffs work on the GWO for Guarda 3rd run after finding the mastermind? Does Delay Attack, Batilgref and Balafeos work at all? I have Lana, MC, and Benjamin in the front, Debra, Alice, and Yeka in the back. MC and Ben uses FPS, Alice and Yeka are priests, throwing badios scrolls, healing, and buffing. Debra is mostly to use hide and sneak attack at the weak point or using armor break. Lana uses Knight Defense, but she runs out SP, and it's hard to time some of the hardest attacks and roar always messes everything.

>>529217762
In the end I didn't really bother with debuffs since they seemed so unreliable. Main difference from you is that i went with another fighter over the knight and just focused on keeping makaltu lv3 up on everyone whenever it wasn't stunned

>>529217762
I only did morlis, had 3 fighters in front for fps knight in the back and dropped my thief for a 2nd mage

What's the best way to farm the sand cave? Rewinding the quest over and over or just going in and out?

>>529227761
I've just been popping in and out of 1f, i'm at two whole ninja junk so far

>>529227761
if you have good luck rewinding please tell us
I've just been doing f1 and occasionally f1-3 when chests lead me near the stairs
still 8m xp to go on ninja mc

Bwos... It took farming a full day just to get to 1.2m exp. I'm tired.

>>529228407
You realize there's no rush to get to level 60 Ninja right? Just grind passively when there's a new event with a currency exchange.

>>529228407
keep it at 30~ and do it on the kill 300s / dailies / kunai grind
none of those need a full 6 x 60 party
kill 2 birds one stone etc

is the goatskin cloak worth for masketta

>>529228407
You did get exp contract with Morgus, right? Just don't die, and lvl up immediately.
I'm near 4M exp, all I do is auto light den, as there are 2 enemies near the entrance (sometimes 1-3 more) and farm high ore. At least 10k exp and sack dolls can pop up quite often. It's also great for grabbing light junk to help with Morgus/Necro fight.

which revived zombies make the least sense to be following you?
sure adventurers and people like Lana who have nowhere to go, or someone like Alice who is obsessed about staying alive make sense to be following you but I don't think that in a non-gacha game someone like Sheli who is a lazy bum would tag along with us on dangerous and tiring adventures

>>529232721
They had to make it so that revived adventurers are relatively believable in joining you
Sheli specifically quite enjoys adventuring, as seen in her trust dialogues
Even if it's just a "neutral" person who doesn't express explicit interest in adventuring, you also need to remember that revived adventurers are kinda just bound to you and the abyss eradication mission since they're all long dead
>but retirement
he butchers them for meat

>>529232721
I guess a lot of the evil folk are especially rude at the start. Seems like they'd be the least likely to risk their necks against GWOs being selfish and all.
>But the Abyss is a threat to all!
Yeah but as far as they're concerned they're just some dude (at least the general adventurers). They would probably prefer to leave the world saving to the Orichalcum grade folks and go back to robbing newbies on the upper floors of the Beginning Abyss.

>Try bronze grade challenge
>5th time in a row
>dungeon monster not in usual spot
and if it only was this and not the damn Ent and his bosom buddies giving me scurvy

>masketta ghul with art of assassination
holy account brickening

>annoying
>smug
>floaty whore
>giving you advice
>overexplaining everything
>likes food
is Lulunarde just Paimon?

>>529236307

>>529236634
what the fuck is her problem

>>529236919
you

whats the best way to farm gold?

>>529238503
just sell your shit and don't upgrade more than necessary

>>529238503
redoing Duke quest, 23k in 4-ish minutes, + once a month 100k napkin and knight cloak.

>Guarda F7 has normal mobs with sentry setups
holy fuck, I specifically hate the necrocore with a soccer team of poltergeists with it, at least cyclops are manageable

>>529178928
No it is. When we say vit is a bad stat we mean it. It's like 10 vit to 1 hp. You can see this for yourself if you get a dwarf-kni bondmate.

>>529236307
No, unlike Paimon, lulu gives no fucks about keeping anyone, including you, alive.

Man, I beat full corruption gatekeeper without much issue but on a second run even bringing corruption as high as survivors can take it's such a different experience. Do i really need to crank eva so high to progress? Feels like I could bring my gear to 20 and still wouldn't make a difference. I know people have been playing for 8 months now while i quit back in November and just came back but still... quite the wall to overcome.

>>529243941
Evasion is good, but the real game changers in staying alive are Knight's Protection and LV3 MAKALTU.

>>529174534
>see there's a path behind the poison
>go through the poison to explore it
>it's a dead end with nothing
Drecom loves to do this, especially in the castle.

>>529230205
I never used it since you can just clear petrification before the fight ends

does grasslands have magical beings on top of insects

>>529238864
That quest is pretty hard tho
>>529242937
The funny thing is I think dwarf kni gives flat hp and not vit

>>529249623
there should be an option to get wet wipes or something so I can clean my adventurers while we wander around
or at least some perfume
>they probably only wash off the dirt with a towel at the Inn
>they didn't have a brother bath in forever

>>529254396
different quality of lodging should come with different way to clean
>cheapest - just wet towel
>medium - shower
>costly - bath
>event - hot springs

How is this allowed? I'm literally stealing from Drecom

>>529260717
Get it while you can, you dirty little thief.

>>529260717
I gonna call Dremcom so they increase price and lower gem amount

so i finished the new content, what now

>>529264070
Your level 60 ninja MC?

>>529264070
go back in time and start again

Guys, I'm not getting it. Does pre-refining doesn't matter at all?
Initially I've got +9 ACC dagger. Refined it to +15, then enhanced it to +16. So I've decided that +16 is the cap of ACC.
Tried to doublecheck it, to be sure. Refined another dagger from +9 ACC to +13, but on enhancement it goes down from +13 to +12. Both daggers are 4* ofc.
So enhancement stat boost is always calculated from base stat value, ignoring refinement? What is the base stat value if you altered stat then?

Also does someone have some sort of spreadsheet of stat min-max ranges post/pre enhancement?

>>529264396

>>529236307
Paimon isn't nearly as based as Lulu.

>>529264396
Blessing breakthroughs + Base stats on a gear are random rolls based off a bracket determined by the star rating of the gear
refining ahead of time is just a waste, and removes the refine stone used
its just a stupid mistake that drecom left in and hasnt fixed

>everything is brown and grey as fuck
*yawn*
>uninstalls

>>529264396
>. Does pre-refining doesn't matter at all?
nope
at best its a waste at worst it may be harmful for enhancement and future rolls

>>529266281
shouldn't you be used to these colors?
you just need to look in the mirror and your future

>>529266281
Ok, bye

>>529264396
I think that way a failed enhancement. Another level of RNG nonsense.

>>529266502
>sandnigger obsession
yikes
>>529266520
that pic has ten times better art than this fucking game

>>529266520
What a bizarre art style, I kinda like it.

>>529266687
found in my old wow folder on my old PC
>modified 7 October 2006

ahhhhhhh
they look so strooooooooong
why must it always be meeeeeeeeee

>>529266682
>that pic has ten times better art than this fucking game
irl pic of you

>>529266528
No. He started with 2 9s, refined one with +6 and the other +4, then those both got deleted, and he ended up with enhancement increases of +7 and +3. The latter is just a low roll, but it's probably not worth worrying about getting max rolls as well as beneficial stats.

For the mission pass, is it the same skill that Jean gives?

>>529269635
Yeah

Clarissa has one of the worst inherits right?
I don't think I was ever in a place where self healing was useful

>>529270893
>he don't know

>>529270893
It's based on DIV. Maybe it's good at high levels?

>>529270893
Yeah, tied with Eckart, Eulalia and Eldorado

>>529271674
Eulalia gets a pass because it's a passive, so it doesn't matter if it's not reliable, more is just better.

so after port I just farm gear until I have 170+ eva on everyone, while lvl 60?

Man I'm fucking fed up with inventory management.
Is it worth it to drop a whole ass 10-pull to bring it to 1000? I have like 12k gems right now, and I don't want to be fucked out of the fairy priest/bishop...

>>529269871
Thanks. This pass is a SKIP then. These monsters are terrible to find.

>>529271757
Oh right forgot about that, good point

>>529272124
100%
your default slots you dont move from should sit around 500 with all the unified gear you should keep ahold of until you find a good piece

>alice mage book
Fucking finally, too bad I need to kill the doll first before I swap

>>529271757
>>529271674
Chloe's is also a brick

>>529273173
That just means you get to discipline your Chloe more.

>party is almost already 60
>still need 32 tags
just kill me... now...

i would lick the dirt off chloe's body after a week of adventuring without going to the inn

>>529264396
>So I've decided that +16 is the cap of ACC.
It and similar stats (ATK EVA DEF etc) are capped at 26 barring insanity such as FAS and +7 enhance stones
The initial and enhance roll go up to +10, so 10 + 10 + 6 = 26

>>529274259
what about a week of adventuring while staying in the stables?
would you lick the horseshite and bugs off her body too?

>>529274437
all of the above and the horse cum off her too

>>529274157
Why did you grade up a mage before the others?

>>529274902
because I love her

>>529275040
That is a perfectly valid reason. Carry on.

So what did you guys invest those exp scrolls on? I'm grinding the event shops but I honestly have no clue and they are sitting in storage.

>>529276458
way of the warrior
way of the mage
assassination (crit chance)

>>529272124
Yes

>>529270893
It's getting really cheap and warm quite strong on higher tiers. It's good on knights and priests.

>>529276458
I just hoard them now. Will see when 4th abyss hit

>>529278305
>it's good on gigabrick classes

>>529276458
Used it for special skill of abenis and alice. Might do something for Rinne but I'll wait for Samurai first on thursday to see if theres anything interesting

Any advice on fighting ninja boss group?

>There are people with 20+ attack on weapons.
How? What is the secret?

>>529280432
you go into the dungeon, you get all the weapons, you merge and merge because your inventory is constantly full and you have 20+ weapons
the true price comes when you run out of gold

>>529280342
try not to get instakilled

>>529280432
high base value +atk on a 4* that rolls well with refine can hit pretty high numbers, I don't have many 20+ stat things but they do just slowly come as you grind.

holy shit gwos I just found an amazing lifehack
bondmate farming on my phone while working out
it might not work with running or other gay shit like that where you have to bounce but hear me out
I got Chris from lvl3 to 4 today while climbing like 30 floors of stairs
by the time I'm done with everyone I'm gonna be a gigachad

anon please
I hate working out

>>529276458
Got Blessing of Agora to lv3 and have been hoarding since then. I'm waiting for the samurai before splurging on skills and inherits

>>529276458
I think I only used it to level tzalik for tzalikman.

what's a good attack skill to inherit to fighters when FPS isn't optional

>>529287829
Heavy Attack lv3.

>>529287918
isn't that super sp costly

>>529287980
same cost as FPS.

>>529287980
What else are you going to use, Immortal Strike?

>>529280342
Dps aoe brute force and just burn fort for rez. Its one of those bullshit fights like doll. Ninjas can critical them, since I saw Rinne take one out, but my 2 mages were doing most of the work with LA spam. Its likely you're gonna have 1-3 people down at the end but its very rng how often they shank your neck

>>529288891
I said inherit, I found precision strike to be good on mask even on fighter, maybe kiriha's armor pierce works?

>>529288309
Akshually it has higher cost per turn since FPS uses one for the buildup

>Adventurers are not humanoids
So where do I farm humanoids...

>>529294729
iirc its gobus

>>529294916
ARE THOSE

>>529294916
gobs are demi-human.
humanoids are pirates and probably ninjas, because I have 73/100

>>529289194
You don't really need the inherit now that ninjer MC is out

which masked man is the most useless to level? knight?

>>529296092
fighter>thief=mage>priest>knight
too early to say for ninja but it's probably only below fighter and only because it takes so long to level

Oh, for humanoid farming just teleport to b2f and go south.

>>529296379
>>529296092
My ninja masketto's currently at lv34 and HA3 hits as hard as his lv60 warrior build with +20 horny sword. Seems pretty good to me

June's end brings Ninjas,
But my heart's longing remains:
Big Titty Dark Elves

https://youtu.be/iqIW7I_cT88?si=2LNYSPWx9P5aZjUo

>>529296379
you only need to do level 35 for the important stuff from ninja
it gives a lot of goodies

I HATE GENOCIDE MISSIONS!
Can you use gems to advance the pass?

>>529296379
Priest masketto is good because you get massive MP and SP pool, high HP and both mage/priest spellbooks. After getting ninja skill, you can use SP to dispell buffs
Mage MC could be good if elementless magic cost wasn't increased to fuck shit up.

Drecom should post the stats of the most sacrificed adventurers in ninjer cave next

>>529294729
Ninjas

i miss when this was posted often...

>>529304576
I am very interested in knowing that

is the ninja cave stuff time limited or will it be around forever?

>>529315715
latter

>>529304576
>Fordraig isnt top 3
the fuck

>if mc was already evil, you didn't have to do the second part of the quest
is that true?

they won... they killed john wizardry...

>>529322814
>going to abyss 2 at level 8
He had it coming.

uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
nyontent?

>>529317123
at the time that image was made fordraig wasn't permanent

>>529325723
God, Kyaru is such a cute piece of shit....

>>529325723

3 days until real content...

>>529330386
3 days until 7 days until 7 days until 7 days until...

bro did they brick dispatches again i constantly get the dispatch details have updapted

the game is going to be out... FOR A FULL YEAR AND NO FAIRY ADVENTURER IN THE HORIZON

we used to have fairy posting often, and nyaow we don't even get that anyemore...

Is armor pierce any good on MC Warrior?

>>529334441
I'll tell you when I hit 60 on ninja next month
>>529334418
the fairy anon still comes around but if next is samurai I doubt he's going to be huffing that hopium

>>529330386
saars do not redeem the class change
abyss 4 is just around the corner (just 2 more weeks)
do not brick yourselves

I shall brick myself in every way possible and build the content we deserve with all of the bricks I've amassed.

>>529338165
BrickGOD I kneel. Your sacrifice will not be in vain.

Air Dagger is main or off hand?

>Treasure Trap Disarm Skill
>Treasure Trap Detection Skill
Neither of these stats are on the Status page.

>>529341581
they add up

stayed up until 1 to smoke the doll last night
fuck that bitch, I'm getting my ninjer class

>>529296092
even knight isn't useless to level, it's just lower priority. Assault guard, status cleanse, way of the knight, death refusal are all top tier defensive abilities.
I'd say mage is bottom though. I can't be assed to swap staff to make debuffs land, and priest buffs tend to be more important

>>529334418
Well of course we didn't get fairies yet, the one in the group shot is clearly a Bishop :^)

who gets lvl 3 art of assassination
>masketta
"safe" investment, less issues with friendly fire
>rinne
more efficient power-wise, since mask has bloated as fuck options so he doesn't need it as much, and she cute + it's more fitting

Actually after typing that out I'm going with mask

>>529333349
>it's true
fuck, john drecom...

>>529322475
It is. I didn't have to sacrifice anyone. Just met the ninja in the cave and that was it.

>>529343931
Think of the free gems.

>>529343664
>Actually after typing that out I'm going with mask
you made the right call anon
most groups can't handle more than 1 N***a

>>529344876
I actually meant rinne but I figured it doesn't matter. I will run 2 ninjers and you can't stop me

>>529344876
I never said I would stop you, but now I might have to.

To take a shadow's place. Surely that is what it means to be shinobi. I probably won't kill my own team as much at least.

>>529351379
This is the most thematic sacrifice, since you have to kill a ninja to become one. Though I guess Kiriha should've known this was coming assuming his clan had a similar trial.

>>529360146
Me on the floor suffering from the ninja grind.

While Plead seems to fail and triggers an ambush if you're not Good after the update, giving a healing item seems to trigger a chest as a reward now.

>>529343664
>"safe" investment
It's ninja-only, endgame mask will be either samurai or lord, high mp high sp high hp class with high mag, pie, atk scalings
If you don't plan to bench Rinne, it's better investment into her

>necrocore without undead-slaying weapons
This shit traumatized me
I'm already afraid of the doll

I'm embarassed for anyone who farmed the disarming pass before the ninja cave came out.

>>529361753
giving healing item has always been able to do that
I usually need their exp though

>>529363070
good news is that doll isn't undead
bad news is that it's still gonna be fucking horrible

>>529363070
>Enemies drop undead slayer like candy.
>Didn't just equip a few random ones
Also, you want to get fighters to steel grade ASAP, they get FPS which is a huge step up from heavy attack.

>>529363682
Sometimes they just run after taking the item, though.

>>529366165
I mean I keep cheap heals on my units, so it's whatever

Dear Santa Satana, I really want:
Adam priest book
Elise k***ht book
Galina fighter book

what's the strat for cyclopes? opening fishing?

>>529370625
Granted, they're gonna be in the paid gem section.

https://x.com/Wiz_Daphne_en/status/1939610582866702575
heres your weekly content wizbwis

>>529374190
>wallpaper
What decade is it, again?

How do I refine this dagger?
+15 and then change div or change div before enhancing? What should I put on it atk or surety?
Also what is the optimal way to extract gear for stones? Just extract at +0 or raise to +5 first?

>>529374630
Forgot pic

>>529374630
change div to something else before enhancing to +15

>>529374743
if you use it on mask or a fighter/priest you can level up priest to turn that div into + atk, if not just turn it into regular + atk. Change before going to +15. Daggers love atk because they need more to punch through def. Not sure about extract autism

>>529374881
>you can level up priest to turn that div into + atk, if not just turn it into regular + atk
what does that even mean

>>529374983
priests have a passive that turns div into attack. It's kinda huge because it means you can roll 3 flat attacks by having atk, (altered) atk, and a div roll

>>529375058
oh shit I shouldn't even refine it then and just level priest masketta

>>529375114
priest weapon mastery conversion rate isn't that high though. I think it's about 20% div so it's only good for minmax autism. IMO, if you want to take that dagger to +20 and also use on mask, then wait for final line before altering. If you're planning to stop at +15 like a sensible person then sure swap the div roll

>>529375058
The Passive turns PIE into ATK. Div calcs from PIE but is NOT the stat relevant to the Passive.

>>529375398
fuck, someone's been feeding me shitty information. Hope the other anon sees this lol

>>529375398
>>529375471
fuck but I want to +20 that dagger so bad
all of the stats on it are max roll I think

>>529375602
I think it's worth it. 3/4 max rolls are honestly more than you would need. If you luck into any decent stat on the final line you're basically set. +20 weapons just feels really good to use. Just alter it now and then pray

>Here's a wallpaper featuring Wanderer Princess Lanavaille!
>Which legendary adventurer should get a wallpaper next? Let us know in the replies!
I'm so excited!
So /wizg/, whomst wallpaper you want the most?

>>529375969
The dead little girl in the goblin cave.

>>529334418
My guess is that they're saving it for a special occasion since it's a new race. We might get one for the anniversary

>>529377843
we aren't making it to anniversary at this rate....

the westerners aint, thats for sre

>>529378017
Samurai next thursday, trust

>>529334418
no fairy posting
no collab posting
speculation at an all time low
it's nyover

Is the ninja cave worth farming? Better than Elmond's request?

Sever Jugular

>enemy thief
<multihit combo of death
<instakill
<critical poison
>our thief
<back scratching strike
<throw sand (miss)

>>529375969
Is she CIA?

>>529381331
She's pretty small compared to others, so yeah.

>>529380482
If you want ninja gear and katanas sure, otherwise le bricken is better since it gives ebonsteel

CIA = Lana
Dr.Pavel = Doctor&Yeka
Bane = masketta man

>>529375814
Wanna do it but im not sure whats the max roll is for alteration stones
Does it go higher than +4-6?

>>529382103
4-6 is max

>>529382445
Yeah but surety rolls 3-5 max
Are you sure atk is better? Usually surety on gear is like half of atk but on stones ita only 1-2 less

>>529382765
Yeah you can find specific ranges here https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/adventurer-customization/blacksmithing/#extraction-values

Both atk and sur are good, personally I would go for 2nd surety, but you can't lose with either

>>529382765
Yeah but after the refine Atk can roll up to +10, but Sur Will only gain 1-2

>>529343664
Was there a scroll for that somewhere?

>>529383315
You can definitely get more than that, I rolled +3 or +4 on several occasions. Also if you use it on masketto you'll have way of the thief which boosts surety damage by like 20%

>they STILL haven't fixed the whole chests not respawning in the 2nd abyss unless you redo the bad end thing
fuck sake drecom. i swear i've read about this getting "fixed" 3+ times in the patch notes by now

>>529334418
I'm still around just having irl keep me busy. I fairy post when I'm done all content but Guarda is rustling my gem stockpile
>>529336052
I'm expecting Samurai next and I'm a weirdo Wizardry obsessed freak since WizRen so dw I'll be here

>>529380482
It's good for ninja gear and katana for tzalik man. Good luck in actually rolling it tho

>>529374527
This is an oji-san game, it's totally appropriate

>>529384879
They respawn for me sometimes, just not all routes

I have a feeling they shadownerfed ninja junk
Cave either drops just shit for sale, or generic junk. I had 50 junks dropped without ninja junk right now
And from guaranteed 3 junks i got white 1 start equipment

which unique gear is worth checking back for besides light sandals?

>>529385657
Nah, it was an absolute fucking trash since the beginning.

>HEY-HEY

>try out frontline Rinne
>she just gets oneshot and is down on the ground again

As bad as it is, at least her tight pants are nice. I don't think I'd be up to using hand of revival on her that much if her ass wasn't so slappable

>>529383683
I myself never seen a higher than +2, but sure saw a bunch of anons complaining about +1 Sur refines on 4* gear

>>529386190
You either d9 or slap Sheli inheir+Adam inherit+Sacred Blessing+Unyielding Will to Fight+Way of the Knight

What is the PRO Thief equipment set?
Grave Robber Gloves
Thieves Boots
Rabbit Tail

>>529385668
None

>>529386437
elegant dancer seems nice too

>>528994163 (OP)
Is this fan art or official? They should've hired whoever drew this

Big brown mammaries,
Together with elven grace,
The forbidden fruit

https://youtu.be/D_MDDcP45dc?si=1_1o8iEUWZbN1_6x

Well i did it
Not the best atk rolls but the surety is nice
Only missing the refinement now but no surety stones
can I refine each blessing once or only 1/item?

>>529394765
You can refine each blessing as many times as you have stones, but the refinements for each individual blessing don't stack.

>>529386424
Enemy spyglass helps

How do I get more book skill rewards from Abyss 2 Church Path? I've tried 3 times in 3 months waiting fir each one st least a month and it just disappears. Can anyone confirm that they've managed to get more than 1?

>>529395149
so if I use a 4-6 atk stone on the atk blessing I can get a min roll I can keep retrying as long as I want until I get a +6 atk?
and then do the same for for each surety blessing with a 3-5 stone?
I wanna make sure I got this right and I don't brick it because I doubt I will get another weapon like this ever again

>>529395471
You should be able to get one each month, can confirm it since I've got one scroll in addition to the one I inherited on masketto

>>529395631
and i get a min roll*

>>529395631
Yeah you can, imo it's a bit of a waste since you're going to waste a lot of stones if you're unlucky but you can minmax if you wish so

>>529395471
I have one on masketta and one on alice.

>>529395662
>>529395846
How did you guys do it? I did fresh start then arena final fight, and one time fresh start, king rescue, pick church quest, go to the town, then curse wheel to the final arena fight. Neither worked.

>>529396229
I remember reading about some one month timer before you can get another one. idk how legit that info is though

>>529396229
Iirc I finished the church ending for the first time in march, and got my second book in late may when I was farming intimacy. Just wheeled to the octo fight, without any additional steps.
It's this skill, right?

>>529395631
Definitely not advisable to waste stones chasing max roll refinements. Even putting aside your other equipment slots and other party members, the next tier of gear is always looming ahead so it's not worth the effort when you're just going to replace your stuff.

>>529396229
>fresh start then arena final fight
Pretty much that, it should work unless some recent update changed something. That being said, I went for the scroll yesterday and it turned to dust too, not jumping to conclusions yet since I didn't kept track of my timer but maybe there's something

>>529370625
I have two Adam priest books.

>>529386424
Searcher ring

>they fixed "1 attack and close the game to respawn doll" bug
It's over

>>529375969
If I take that hair ornament off will she die?

>>529395471

>you can get higher tier refinement stones if you +5 a piece of equipment
nyoooo my gold....

>>529400671
It would be very painful

>>529386826
It's AI (fully or assisted?) fanart I think

Albano incesnse CD is 28 days, like adventurer bones and sanctuary blessing book
So in the end it's not so bad

>>529386826
>>529404212
It's AI assisted official art, this artist is character designer

>>529404212
>>529405867
I don't think it's AI assisted and it's definitely just fanart
https://x.com/Kjk_kat12349/media

>>529405682
Some other is less tho. Like 2 weeks. I think the change is for he better

>>529406128
That's a butt alright.

>>529407545
>>529405867

If it's AI assisted, the AI must not have done much. Everything's way too consistent for even the best AIs. Midjourney still fucks up symmetry and global lighting pretty badly.

>Special Elda out of monthly bones
2 more and my MC fate is settled to spam FPS until EOS

>>529406128
That's an elf tier ass alright

>>529407570
Yeah I managed to get incense off of the kid and the fairy after a couple of weeks.

12k gold? I thought you were royalty? you fucking broke girl
that shit won't even cover half an enhancement at the jewsmith

>>529414309
holy shit Lulu is based

>Changed Philip from thief to fighter
>He loses his cool thief clothes for gay elf fighter clothes
Sigh

>>529415019
Click 5 times on him in the training room

>>529415571
That not work

>>529415852
Click 6 times.

>>529375969
>the chad Wana vs the virgin Lana
neither of them are virgins

>>529416253
Still not. Maybe in two weeks

>>529406128
people skipped her thinking of glorious samurai
sudoku feeling right there

>>529418297
Click for two weeks.

>>529418364
We all got sheli. Our infinite mp waifu

>>529417404
wrong.
Lana is pussy virgin.
Wana is anus virgin.

>>529406128
imagine the little squeakers she lets out after supper

>Try using covert strike with masketta
>Unironically miss the animation while blinking
H-Hayai !

>>529418364
I rolled 5 shelis for inherits
+got her staff for 100 coins

>>529418297
It would not even be bad if he had some breastplate.
At last Chloe cc to knight is looking good, but she looks good in everything

>>529418364
I skipped her coz she is dirty slut.

All elves are dirty sluts

>>529395471
respawning rewards are buggy. you may have to cursed wheel to a different pot town route first.

what limited characters are must haves for general account health?
besides Sheli of course

Debra cc knight look to lightly armoured.

>>529421404
My tongue will be the judge of that.

>Fucking iron grade
Wow lucky me, thank you John Drecom !

>>529421517
None. Including 2B... I mean shelli. They all are nice to have but in general it's more a matter of taste.
>>529421552
Mask Debra looks quite cool. But her ragged cloth is not nice at all.

>>529421886
???

>>529421964
me whenever i see "them"

>>529422086
It's steel my bad, but the point still stands. Give me ebonsteel dammit, not like we're showered n ninja junk anyway

>>529421517
sheli just lets you walk around dungeons a little longer but that doesnt matter at all.
in boss fights, she'll nuke once, wake up, and then be just as useless as any other mage until the fight ends.

iarumas is the only limited character in the game that will significantly change and improve your moment to moment gameplay without having a retarded downside (like taking 3,000 hours to gear or not being able to nuke on demand). t. cheesed manticore, gamblers, doll, and pretty much every other encounter with him.

>>529421903
>None
collabskipper cope.

>>529405867
It's not official art but they do get info on new characters fast it seems... Secretly commissioned maybe?

>>529408887
You should see some of the best LORAs and some of the sketch->AI assist->AI cleanup->Optional manual cleanup pipelines

>>529418297
this outfit has more belts than a 90s anti-hero

>>529421517
Sheli's just a better elf-mag.

>>529422930
ironically enough the best use for iarumas is to inherit his skill to Sheli

>>529426382
if inherited tzalik's damage didnt drop off a cliff, maybe. sheli just wants extra levels of zelos.

>>529401268
I think that is just the rare 5* mat from 4* items. I don't think leveling it has anything to do with it.

>>529422930
I get Iarumas and berka from Collab. Never used them outside of leveling them to like 30.
I guess having him is nice but hardly necessary. And honestly unless you go whaling or burn stash or hoarded gems on any banner character it's rather hard to discipline them.

>>529425105
And they look retarded. Give him normal belt or two plus some breastplate or half and he would be golden.

>>529427663
this general will never realize that standards are better than limiteds for this exact reason

>>529430514
standards don't have berky's big ass tits and hands so they suck simple as

>>529422930
Share your Iarumas equip and tactics. What disc level is he?

>>529430514
All my chars sit at 0 or 1 disc so its beside the point.

>>529418364
Skipped her cuz I already have Milana

>>529425051
There's a speed vid of him drawing a dragon so I think it's entirely legit

>>529430514
>still have to roll the standards
>can also use their inherits instead(eg debra's passive, alice passive, both insanely nice passives)
uh huh
granted there is a standard who's literally a giant statstick with a mid inherit(gerulf)
and then there's lana, mid inherit unless it's like level 5 and mid disc

>>529433871
>he didn't list Adam's inherit

>>529433193
Danbooru links to a Pixiv account with a drawing from 2022 that doesn't look like what AI could manage at the time.

so fucking sad AIsloppers now made people paranoid about good artists making art

>>529437909
The future is now, masked man.

So back then it was all about 100 fort and 10 bonus points. Now I see mentions of boons and IVs, how impactful are they to consider re--raising chars?

>>529438885
It's one extra point in that stat per 10 levels.
It's almost negligible because of how base stats scale and I wouldn't worry too much about it if you've already invested skills and stuff into characters.
I'd only really care if you have multiple copies of a character and are using it as a factor in which one to make the one you actually use.

>>529427663
Berk is mediocre. Iarumas is the only character in the game that can drop such a big nuke with no setup required and he completely changes how you approach more difficult content like the GWO and the Gamblers. But otherwise yeah most of the adventurers are pretty much the same outside of some gimmicks.

>>529438885
well if u dont mind letting the dispatch reraise them not a big deal, what is a big deal is inherits if u heavily invested in a dude (jnot talking about the like 6 or so generic inherits for +1 attack/hp) talking like heavy 3+ trap stacking, way of the warrior etc.

the bonus adds up. seen a iq boon 10 point sheli 100 iq. mine is neutral iv 7 iq, 93 iq so thats the difference. the gap will slightly widen the higher the level caps go, so take that for what you will

>>529440848
with just unity(the same thing you do for iarumas) my berk slaps 3.5k sureties.lvl 4 skill. and yes, he would do more at skill 4 but only do his nuke twice. she has the mana to do it 13 times.

>>529441039
>Level 4 skill

>>529426094
True, same as Iarumas. Limited shitters kneel to the mighty unnamed

>>529433871
Is it that good ? Debra's passive doesn't seems great to me

>>529441039
I mean the strat is just to load up your party with mana pots then go to town. That's what most whales did for the previous tower.

>>529442720
2 sp on kill is pretty damn good for exploration longevity, unless you can evade most encounters I'd say it's worth putting it on MC or characters you'll 100% use

>>529438885
mostly, doesn't really matter unless you giga min max autism, but you can get a stat that is literally not raisable unless levelup
luck
although I've heard around these parts that your non IV stats will go down by 1-2 points

>>529443239
Maybe I'll feed my only copy to MC then, not like I need a second thief anyway

>>529437909
I'm more annoyed at AIslop polluting search results. Like it's so inconvenient to have to type "[Character] official art" or "[Character] -CivAI, -Stable diffusion, -whatever". Really wish there was a button you could press to filter all that shit out, but the genie is out of the bottle so to speak.

And it really fucking grinds my gears that there's shitheads that spam their slop in certain generals because they can't just fap alone with their abysmal taste. No, they have to also "take requests" because they are attention whores and all the other cum-brained idiots will beg for requests instead of learning how to gen for themselves, basically making half the thread unreadable garbage.

>>529441039
>3.5k sureties
hitting a fire weakness doesnt count

>>529445006
>not like I need a second thief anyway
Thief proving ground.

Here are your summer alts gwo

>>529441039
>3.5k
lol

>>529445515
Dio mio

>>529445698
Gear?

>>529441039
>just level 4 her skill bwo

>>529445515
Did they get hit with the Bubonic Plague or something?

>>529446189
Of course not as that would be content.

>>529445698
>double mana for almost 50% more damage
meh, way of the mage iarumas when

*slams thread*
>Accept death

this is it... the last thread of wizg...
let it be known that anon:
skipped Livana
skipped sleepymage
skipped birbdwarf
all because of ebin samulai katana that never made it home...
fairy bwo dead in ditch along with pri-chan anon that never even click in our threads anyemore...

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dark elf bro forgotten...