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==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 16 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 27 August 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026
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>>528975105
Only Ish 1-32 and Anal 2020 are truly canon.
>>529017693The translations haven't been cancelled so why do you keep saying this?
>>529017629 (OP)woah they really recovered with IDW after that awful last issue
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-BzZIbrMvVHo3eptMEi3VpwxN8TI1q58W09eWMgeeqY
Dunno if the writer is here, but I hate seeing writing posted here go unanswered, so I read your thing out of principle. It's nice. I assume Woe is the focus and she's the interesting one so I have to ask what the thinking is behind using another OC (Basil) over a game or comic character like Tails/Tangle or something. That's not a criticism (yet), just a genuine question. Otherwise, keep at it. If you keep posting I'll keep reading
>>529017725>Of course an Eggfag is asking for Sonic to be [shit I made up]As always, eggfag spit facts.
>>529017629 (OP)Plot twist, that is scourge in his theoretical IDW debut.
>>529017805You know, IDW Sonic turned into a hardcore sex channel so gradually I didn't even notice it
>>529017743IDW will probably be cancelled before they get to the next volume. Kek.
>>529017843I thought it was Mimic
>>529017924Like the last 7 years you've been saying that?
>>529017743>5 vols in roughly a year>next 2 about a year apart>8th took nearly two yearsBeat. The. Allegations!
>>529017842WOOOOO OH OH OH oh...
DON'T YOU GUYS KNOW EGGMAN IS THE TRUE PROTAGONIST? YEPPEEEEEEEEEEE
>>529017843Bigger plot twist, this is the real Sonic finally returning. The other guy from the start of IDW who was a borderline villain protecting Eggman was Scourge this entire time.
>>529017842This nigga knows what's up.
If I were to write Sonic as flawed, I'd write him as a weak-willed asshole, not a "weak pussy".
That's exactly what he is, after all. He doesn't have the will to sacrifice, so he lives a life of self-serving and always defaults to his being in the right. The only reason it works in his favor is because the world/narrative/meta/whatever rewards him for it instead of punishing him. If we turn Sonic's world into something akin to the real world (Which is what you have to do if you want the story to be ACTUALLY inspirational), then Sonic's pretty much fucked.
>>529017989IDW confessed themselves. So this isn't a prediction or assumption.
>>529017284>Sonic isn't a bad character, but you can't write a good story when the narrative is that he's super chad thundercock all the timeWhich is why you pair him with another character. That's what Tails and Amy are for.
>It's not even believable.Nigga, these are cartoon characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4mPkze9AEs
>>529018103SoJ sees Sonic no more than hellokitty with some shounen characteristics. What you are looking for is in pre reboot Archie
I know Archienic is relatable and cool, when I read it over a decade ago, I thought, damn, Sonic really gets all this pussy and is FAST. But at the same time, I didnโt want to be a dick like him. Archienic is truly the wind and inspirational figure.
>>529018421Gamenic's a poon hound too.
>>529018421>cuckshit>writer: Ken PendersBrilliant
>>529018382Preboot Archie was a simp.
>>529018582Cucking where? Tails never had anything with Fiona. He was her orbiter.
>>529017765>Boys only like the blandest of Gary StusNo they like cool guys that do cool things and look cool as fuck doing them. https://youtu.be/7MvuIFR1rvg?si=Uk1oWst4Xs-HTW8v
>>529018348>Which is why you pair him with another character.Did you even listen to what I said? You can add a billion Sonic dicksuckers, it won't matter if he keeps being a shitty character.
>Nigga, these are cartoon characters.I guess now every story that requires any suspension of disbelief needs to be completely nonsensical, yeah?
>>529018382He gets closer than Gamenic, but is still a Gary Stu at its core. All the character writing energy goes to relationship drama bullshit.
>>529018757>No they like cool guys that do cool things and look cool as fuck doing themOh, so Gary Stus. I see.
Also, mentioning that anime is not the own you think it is. Literally everyone with a brain clowns on this for being nothing but "hype moments and aura".
>>529018770>it won't matter if he keeps being a shitty character.Sounds like a personal problem then.
>I guess now every story that requires any suspension of disbelief needs to be completely nonsensical, yeah?Another extreme.
>>529017693>>529017992Notice that "cowards run I win" is the EXACT moment any iota of Japanese enthusiasm for the comic plummeted.
>>529018989>Literally everyone with a brain clowns on this for being nothing but "hype moments and aura".In other words, nerds. Too many of y'all hate anything fun and cool. Shit's sad. Enjoy yourselves for once.
Are you telling me that, a 15 years old like Sonic, is more wise and intelligent than a caring mom like Vanilla? Are you really telling me I have to eat that bullshit. Fuck windshit lmao.
>>529019034It was also the moment where the west slowly started to question Ian Flynn's competency and the quality of the comic.
>does nothing wrong except being the little bro who wants to be a man one day
>his fanbase is pedos, his writers hate him and the rest of the fandom belittles him
>>529019182why would Vanilla be wise and intelligent? She was a teen mom
>>529019359NuDK is just as gay
>>529019009>Sounds like a personal problemI've seen you say this many times, but I don't really know what it means. Aren't both of our opinions personal? Are you implying that there is an objective argument as to how Sonic should be written?
How would that even work? Where would you get the epistemologic foundation necessary to say how a fucking blue cartoon animal show should be written? I'm actually curious now.
>>529019118>In other words, nerdsAre you actually LARPing as a hood weeb on /sthg/?
>>529019182They'll write a story about how Vanilla is an overbearing mom and have Sonic show Cream how to be free and stuff.
Of course, they'll never do the opposite and have SONIC be the bad influence, and will never have him make Cream too irresponsible, which is where Vanilla would step in.
Nuh uh. The cameraman only points at Sonic when what he says is the correct thing to say.
>>529019389Not in mobian years. Almost nobody in the franchise is very old.
>>529019182>a 15 years old like SonicWas originally an adult as envisioned by his creator, Naoto Ohshima, and was intended to be this more mythic character. Concept art for Sonic 3 had him as the Legendary God of the Echidnas which is why there are all those murals and statues on the island. Sonic was always the Chosen One. The Jesus. The Santa Claus. God.
Good morning, /sthg/! I hope you have a great day!
>>529019526you made it bad by posting amy
>>528977463hello gentletismos, I am Cosmo and I asked a question.
I know not who krack, gabs and duo/bonsoir are.
qqlettuce too, please tell me why they are people of interest, thank-you.
>>529019505>Sonic was originally a [a bunch of shit nobody ever followed up on] by his [irrelevant trivia shit] and was intended to be [a bunch of shit nobody ever followed up on anyway] Jpfags aren't beating the retard allegations. Also concept art is CONCEPT ART for a reason.
>>529019631You don't know anything if thats what your take on gabs was and i dont know why you need to be educated on namefag drama
>>529019612nah, nonsense!
>>529019463GET OUT OF MY MIND
GET OUT OF MY MIND
GET OUT OF MY MIND
GET OUT OF MY MIND
GET OUT
Reminder that Sonic is 15 because the target demo is boys, not men. Amy's 12 because she has to ALWAYS be younger than Sonic by some years to keep the Shoujo dynamic they have. So they could easily be adults since Sonic already acts like one and Amy lives on her own with no parents to be seen.
>>529019735>You don't know anythingThat's why I asked
Sonaze is way more cute than Amy chasing after him.
>>529019631They are all useless retards like every twitter namefag.
Krack is a shadow fangirl posting from time to time here and is famous for being a chudette, duo is some dramafag who fucked the place because he hates krack and the booru, and the others i don't know shit about them.
The only lesbian retard left i know about is that ftm tranny called Gigi.
I saw people say here that when dealing with a new friend character, you donโt need to explain anything about them and can just say โtheyโre here nowโ. If I want to have Gold in fic about Silver (in his future), do I need to take a step back to introduce her properly and explain how they met or can she just be an acquaintance of Silverโs?
>>529019684Damn, you really are fucking butthurt, huh?
>>529020098It sounds to me like you're assmad because nobody gives a shit about windfaggotry.
>>529019463>but I don't really know what it meansIt means your experiences arent universal, sperg. Different people like different things.
>>529019631>Krackterf femcel with an army of orbiters and boogeyman of Sonic Twitter
>gabsancient severely autistic femcel that has been silvazefagging for over a decade and is basically their queen
The other two are nobodies that are of no interest or importance.
>>529020212>It means your experiences arent universalWhen have I claimed the contrary?
Man, Windfags only know how to strawman. It's embarrassing.
>>529019915It's an autist that doesn't understands emotions with another one that runs away from them.
>>529020054>do I need to take a step back to introduce her properly and explain how they met or can she just be an acquaintance of Silverโs?She's just some bitch he knows. Simple.
>>529020297At risk of biting bait, Sonic doesnt run away from emotions
>>529020054>Gold and Silver ficHow many times should I remind to that Gold llikes confident and capable people. Silver is.. Not that
>>529019915both are cringe trash
>>529020286You said you don't what it meant and I explained what it meant. Simple.
>>529020337Funny as always, but it's not a romance fic. Gold, whether she's a romantic interest or not (which shouldn't even really be a priority when making a Sonic charcacter) is a good counterbalance to Silver because she can do what Blaze does for him while being way weaker than Blaze so you don't have to question her agency
>>529019915I concur, but Amy chasing after Sonic is cute in its own way too.
>>529018167Sounds bitchin'.
>>529020330>Sonic doesnt run away from emotionsThat anon doesn't understand that certain people can have their inner shit locked down to the point most things don't bother them. Sonic's the most mentally healthy character in the series for that reason. Bro's good vibes the guy.
>>529020549She tried her best to fit in... They treated her like shit bros...
>>529020534This is just what Sonally did. Theres nothing cute about amyntr
Shadamy is about Amy helping Shadow explore what it means to live and to see what Maria loved about this planet. including Spagonian cuisine. Shadow would consider hanging around to be a waste of time, so it would start as short and brief interactions about random things. then maybe as time goes on Shadow develops a liking to hanging around her randomly.
Amy WILL get sick of Sonic rejecting her
Amy WILL leave him
Amy WILL find a human male who cares about her
Amy WILL feel love and compassion
Amy WILL feel valued for all that she's worth
Amy WILL get happily married and have interspecies sex
Amy WILL have children with said man and live happily, knowing she made the right choice
Sonic WILL die alone and with no legacy
>>529020682That's what Amy always did, chase after Sonic and pretend to be his girlfriend. It was silly and fun.
>>529018167Why are people named Chris so cursed when it comes to Sonic?
More Silvouge, CEO Rouge interviews Shitver for the vacant assistant position.
>>529020549>>529020632What does our girl eat? Spicy fried chicken?
>>529020762What would happen if Human Men also reject her for Sonic?
>>529020054>you donโt need to explain anything about them and can just say โtheyโre here nowโ.Show don't tell. If her role is to just act as Silver's friend in the story, then show that with her presence and actions. Her backstory doesn't need to be explained unless it's relevant to the story itself.
>>529020762Dexter will never be real Amy
You will die alone
>>529020762>not posting the wedding ring edit
>>529020732I'm not a Shadamy fan at all, but speaking on the characters, I think it's fine for Amy to want to do that for Shadow (in between chasing Sonic and her regular life), but I have a problem with
>as time goes on Shadow develops a liking to hanging around her randomlyThis really isn't Shadow in my view. I think the best it can get is short and brief. He shouldn't be going to Hot Honey concerts or listening to Taylor Swift albums with her
http://x.com/Izachansenpai20/status/1938489814128660888
>>529021026Is this spider gwen but for amy
>>529020947>He shouldn't be going to Hot Honey concerts or listening to Taylor Swift albums with herReminder that these were ideas from some Shadamy shipper at SoA. She's the one who writes the noncanon Twitter Takeovers.
>>529021119Sure, but "fans" take that and run with it as a good idea so I feel the need to speak counter to it
http://x.com/mellodillo/status/1938374160893227031
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>>529020848Chocolate chicken.
>>529020947I see him more of the kind that would randomly drop taylor swift discs and merch as a memento then leaves.
>You like that stuff, here.he might or might not listen to those on his own
http://x.com/TailsChannel/status/1938511359236284663
Ah yes, my favorite Sonic character
Darkseid
>>529021317>I see him more of the kind that would randomly drop taylor swift discs and merch as a memento then leaves.No.
>>529021358Well Eggman didn't dress as Darkseid so yeah he's a Sonic villain now
>>529021317I think that raises a question of how he even happens across something like that and I don't think it's a necessary good implication to imply that he possibly listens to it
>>529021186>mint milk shakesSounds perfect for Tails' girlfriend!
>>529017629 (OP)KRACK JUST GOT BANNNED AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE
>>529021186>devilish penauts
>>529021560THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS DONT USE GUNS FIONA!!!! NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL!!!!
>>529021171Holy shit that's some crazy OOC Silver, fucking fakefans
>>529021496>I don't think it's a necessary good implication to imply that he possibly listens to itIt'd be a good way to make him way less cool to boys. In other words, a bad thing.
>>529021171silver if he was cool
>>529021026Amy was never that cool girl
>>529021171>silver being masculineYeah Silver is.. Very not that. Try reading the comics chud
>>529019915I wish Blaze had a better racing suit.
>>529021496>I think that raises a question of how he even happens across something like thatHe wouldn't get out of his way to do it. but if he gets it somehow, he would drop it in their next occasional meet and be "you like that stuff, whatever." then leaves. unless it's a special occasion like in tmosh
>not canon >:(had some oversight be sega so good enough for me
>Dear Amy:
>Drop dead or something
>PLEASE.
>All you ever do is follow
>Sonic around like the
>stupid bitch you are.
>Just get it through your
>thick skull: HE DOESN'T
>LOVE YOU AND NEVER WILL.
>JUST SHUT UP ALREADY.
>
>-Anti Amy Rose
>>529021972Whats wrong with the one she has
>>529021729Only OOC about it is that Silver would had lashed out at them at once instead of just talking about being angry
>>529021636>meanwhile rotor uses cannonsThe betrayal was totally justified.
>>529022392NOOO
this didn't happen, not canon
this didn't happen, not canon
blam-blam! hear that? no canon
Can we just start the bestie protocol?
>>529022107>had some oversight be sega so good enough for meStill noncanon.
>>529020831It's part of being a "chris"tian.
>>529022728Hot take: idw should never be allowed to move and just take place before Frontiers forever
>>529022649Why is she literally stuck in concrete. Shitty drawing.
>>529021972There's the one from Speed Sim.
>>529022171It's good, but Blaze deserves better than good.
>>529022847Afraid of what it'll do to Sage?
Friendly reminder that /sthg/ supports trans rights and if y'all don't like that y'all can FUCK right the FUCK OFF :)
>>529021524All you had to do was go back and fix the Fiona bot.
>>529023080uhhhh no we don't
>>529023065Not even what it does to Sage, but what it'll do because of Sage. Things they'll try to ruin about Eggman because Sage is around and they think her existence proves their bad ideas accurate.
I just don't think they deserve more toys they don't know how to play with. Not Sage, not Ariem, not whoever else is next.
>>529023080You don't speak for me, freak.
Bestie Box, or Cuck Chair?
>>529023276Bestie Box if she wants to be near Sonic when he's having sex. Cuck chair if she's not willing to do so.
>>529023117Shadow wouldn't say that
Shadow would NOT fucking say that he kills transphobes with hammers
>>529023276Cuck chair is good for watching. Bestie box is when you want to 'participate' in the action (sexual fluids leaking on you)
>>529023386The Cuck Chair is for Silver
>>529023071Sonic shouldn't be blushing and sweating. And for any auttist who's gonna speak up and claim Gary Stu over that, plenty of guys IRL don't get like that with girls. Just because you do, doesn't mean all guys do.
>>529023480Sonic Team said Sonic is shy
>>529022897>>529023110You're posting some nice art, respect from a Sonazebro for that.
>>529023071This one looks like AI though.
>>529023317The perspective is still messed up, and the scenario doesnโt make sense, is she in a pool or a lake? Still shitty drawing.
>>529023535No. Sonic is a "ladies man". can't be both.
Now you know who is actually shy?
>>529023535Amy thinks he's shy.
Naka wouldn't let this happen.
Sonic is a ladies man whose a bit shy when it comes to his own personal feelings, and just doesn't want anything to do with romance.
>>529023901This, the idea that Sonic is shy was always a bad take.
>>529023579Thanks. The 3rd (You) isn't me, though.
>>529023935okay this got a good chuckle out of me
Sonic wouldn't be shy or blush or sweat. But his inability to get together with Amy is a reflection of his inability to take responsibility for anything. Once he pushes past this character flaw and becomes someone with a purpose, there will be no obstacles anymore, and he will admit his love for Amy in a cool fashion.
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>>529024043It's a cope that they throw for those crazy women. Knuckles' official bio says he is shy. Sonic's doesn't.
>>529024143>becomes someone with a purposeHis purpose is to be free and live a life of adventure.
>>529024217>his purpose is to be [boring shit].
>>529024217That's not a purpose, that's a LACK of purpose, lol. "My purpose is to be a NEET and play vidya all day".
He lives by his feelings, not set goals. His feelings tell him to be an adrenaline junkie. If you interpret that as his goal, then the words "goal"/"purpose" have no meaning since they can describe anything you do.
>>529024025Shy is the wrong word for Sonic, he's not timid or nervous about his feelings, just reserved, cool.
>>529024359>>529024417So, what do you want Sonic to do?
>>529024417https://youtu.be/IRsPheErBj8?si=3uiS8E7wU9CkviED
>>529024065Ah, that makes sense.
>>529024529Tranny flag doesn't have yellow.
>>529023480>Sonic shouldn't be blushing and sweating.
>>529024417The point of Sonic is to be free. Why is that a bad thing?
"Purpose" is Shadow's thing, as something that distinguishes him from Sonic. Sonic just lives by what he thinks is right in the present moment, but Shadow dedicates himself exclusively to carrying out a specific purpose to the point of not caring at all about anything else to coldly efficient degrees.
>>529024503Sometimes, being cool and reserved is the exact same thing as being timid and nervous. There is no difference aside from all the differences.
>>529024695How hot is Amy in-universe?
>>529021552I think we as /sthg/ should give her the support she needs in these trying times, especially when sonictwt is shitting on her rn
>>529018131>IDW confessed themselvesYes, that they have another year. The volumes will just keep getting translated up to whenever it finishes. Which I think will be issue 100. A shift is coming. I don't think the comic itself is ending, but I think they're gearing up to end it on a non-cliffhanger end so they can transfer over to a new publisher. And then everything will start fresh anew, but post Frontiers instead of Forces this time. It can not be coincidence that IDW just suddenly says they have a year left, next year is Sonic's 35th anniversary and the comic is getting rid of every post forces plot thread.
>>529024505They want him to be a fucking loser like them. A self insert for their dweeby asses.
>>529024672The flowers on the border aren't yellow
>Sonic should be like a god-fairy, a metaphor for the wind. He shouldn't do anything directly. He should simply pass by, be felt but never touched or interacted with. He should embody the paragon, untouchable, transcendent.
>And how's that exciting?
>UmmMMM, YOU HATE SONIC!
>>529024908In Sonic X, I forgot.
In game canon? Unironically hotter than Rouge.
>>529024928I'll start.
ShadMari is sibling coded.
Shadow and Maria are siblings
Shadow and Maria's relationship is pure and not romantic
human x mobian in a romantic context will not survive no matter how hard you try to shill it
Maekawa-san is just horny. you shouldn't listen to horny people.
>>529024957>new publisherI don't see why that would happen. Also, how does IDW get to the math that Issue 100 is in '26? we would be up to 97 in December '26
AAAIIIEEEEEEEE
Look at Silver!
>>529025064Look, guy. If YOU have a problem with it, that's fine. You don't like Sonic. Simple as. But that shouldn't mean that it needs to be changed just because you don't like it. What kind of shit is that?
>>529024846The feelings are totally different though.
>>529025154>>529025242Aight
Who's buying one and stick a used tampon on it?
>>529024417I think you should be a Shadowfag instead like how
>>529024710 suggests
>>529025325He's being sarcastic, dumbass.
>>529024957>The volumes will just keep getting translated up to whenever it finishes.You...you really believe that? After they suddenly hit a wall after reaching Metal Virus and it took fucking FOUR YEARS to muster the willpower to wrap up the arc?
>>529025064>>And how's that exciting?How isn't it?
It's cool. Sonic is COOL. He is the coolest and the fastest and the best-est ultimate-est awesome-est thing to ever exist. Like, genuinely.
If you want relatability on a personal, human level, that's what Tails is for. But what inspires that growth is Sonic. Tails strives to be like "Sonic", and "Sonic" is thus the actual character we focus on above all else. Amy is a girl in love, and all of growth and development centers around her chasing of that unattainable love interest for her, which is "Sonic". Knuckles is an immovable mountain bound by his duty to protect the Master Emerald and Angel Island, but some part of him deep down yearns for freedom even if he doesn't want to admit it. That freedom is represented by Sonic, and that's what their rivalry is truly about.
Sonic is the ideal they all strive for or are challenged by in some way. He's not supposed to "human". Sonic is not Spider-Man, he is the spider that bit him. The story is about how Sonic's influence changes the world around him, not how the world changes Sonic.
>>529025430No, I wasn't. I said
>There is no difference aside from all the differences.completely seriously, regardless of how ridiculous it sounds.
>>529024505I've answered this before.
LITERALLY ANYTHING is better than the nothing he has right now. But I would personally make his goal to be "Becoming the coolest hero".
>>529024710>The point of Sonic is to be free. Why is that a bad thing?It's a bad thing because being free isn't always the solution to every problem in our world. It is in Sonic's world because that's the flawed, uninspiring narrative they wanna go with.
>but Shadow dedicates himself exclusively to carrying out a specific purpose to the point of not caring at all about anything else to coldly efficient degrees.That can ALSO be explored. We can make it so the narrative punishes Shadow for having such a tunnel vision. And I'm sure you'd be okay with THAT, but not with Sonic being punished, since he's your self-insert and all that.
>>529025280Nobody cares about windshit. Go tell that to a kid who's a fan of the movies and Prime, and you'll get laughed at because you're retarded autist.
>>529025891>But I would personally make his goal to be "Becoming the coolest hero".That's out of character for Sonic, because he does not care about being cool or a hero. He doesn't care how people perceive him. And that itself is meant to be an admirable quality.
>>529025979>anti-wind faggots are ESLShould have been obvious.
>>529025891>But I would personally make his goal to be "Becoming the coolest hero".That's Tails' goal.
>>529025892Who is Blaze gonna be? Or will she just stay Blaze?
>>529026129>straw man argumentThanks for the concession.
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I thought Sonic is the cool young American through a Japanese lens, what is all of this wind and west shit?
>>529026185Captain fodder
>>529026223That was a different anon, dipshit.
>>529026251>I thought Sonic is the cool young American through a Japanese lens, what is all of this wind and west shit?Flynn fans.
>>529026185Blaze isn't popular enough to be in this kind of stuff, anon.
>>529026251Sonic's character is centered around being "free as the wind". The wind is the metaphorical elemental motif associated with his character in the games, and often is used in-game as part of his skillset.
This is often ignored or overlooked or unknown in western depictions of the character.
>>529026414False and homosexual.
>>529026454I think the wind is just you guys over analyzing the fact that he's just fast and causes wind to irrupt.
>>529026575Sonic Team themselves refer to Sonic that way, dumb fucking moron. Even in the games, play Sonic Rush.
>>529026575Play the games, and pay attention.
>>529026503Blazefag you're telling us that Amy and Rouge are less popular then Blaze?
>>529026110>He doesn't care how people perceive himForeign concept to these guys. They overthink and care so much about how others perceive them IRL. A guy who doesn't makes no sense to them. It's why they want him to be so flawed. And people tend to hate what they don't understand. The idea of a chill guy living a free adventurous life of no worries pisses them off.
>>529026442That is a really cute outfit on her. I love the matching ascot, sash, and boots.
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Cream is a true, blue WIND CHAD.
>>529026110>That's out of character for SonicNope, that's a misinterpretation of what "OOC" means.
"OOC" would be if I made Sonic go through a situation that is similar or at least analogous to another situation he's been through, but make him act differently for the sake of the plot. That's me making Sonic inconsistent.
However, if I make Sonic go through something he has never gone through before (making it so the narrative punishes him for his actions instead of rewarding him), and he changes to adapt to this new status quo, then that's not really OOC. Sonic was always supposed to be insecure, it's just that the circumstances were never primed for that to happen. Calling him OOC for that is like saying it would be OOC for Sonic to cry when Tails dies, even though one of his close friends never died for you to even know that.
>He doesn't care how people perceive him. And that itself is meant to be an admirable quality.Sounds arrogant and inconsiderate. Again, it's only admirable because the narrative wills it to be.
>>529026145>That's Tails' goal.Well, in my ideal headcanon, that would be a flaw too. But assuming it's not, I don't see why they can't compete against each other on who's the coolest. In any case, as I said, anything is better than nothing, so if that's your only gripe, it can be solved pretty easily.
>>529025160>Also, how does IDW get to the math that Issue 100 is in '26? we would be up to 97 in December '26Especially strange when you consider how often IDW delays issues
>>529026684>>529026687So it's an afterthought? he likes freedom and he cause winds when he's fast so they go like "he's free like the wind!" yet metaphorically that's wrong you're supposed to let the wind carry you, it's made up on one or two games and you westerners are being weebs again.
>>529026884>in my ideal headcanonDon't care, nerd.
>>529026935Wishful thinking?
>>529026807She wore that outfit in Sonic X.
>>529026993>Don't care, nerd.Erm, then stop replying? You seem to actually care a lot about what I have to say.
>>529027021She wore the dress, but the fan artist made big improvements to the outfit.
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>>529026952There's an entire game where the literal theme is that he is a "Knight of the Wind".
>et metaphorically that's wrong you're supposed to let the wind carry youHow is that wrong? Air is the element of freedom, Sonic goes where the wind takes him. He is one with the wind.
>>529026952>it's made up on one or two games and you westerners are being weebs again.Quit trying to downplay what the games themselves present to us. Sonic represents the wind metaphorically, and has actual wind powers alongside his speed.
>>529026503>Botted ship pols>Botted vote polsYeah gtfo of here and go back to xwitter cuck
>>529025160>I don't see why that would happen.Why wouldn't it? What reason would the material in IDW just suddenly be dropped because IDW kicked the bucket. Sega owns the material, not them. Archie blew up because Sega cancelled it. They wanted nothing to do with it. IDW going out of business mid-run without Sega planning on cancellation is different. They'll just find the comics a new home. It might even be DC since Sega's in bed with them right now and DC comics get 100% more attention than IDW.
>how does IDW get to the math that Issue 100 is in '26?No idea. Unless they plan to speed up releases next year and release more than one issue a month.
>>529027197>Air is the element of freedom> and has actual wind powers See why nobody likes you? just be normal
>>529026884>Sonic was always supposed to be insecure,We know for a fact he's not, so yes it IS out of character for your hypothetical scenario to occur.
Sonic does not care what people think of him, he does not care about being seen as a hero, or about being seen as cool. Sonic only cares about what he thinks of himself, not what others think of him. These are established traits within his character.
"Wanting to be cool" is Tails' goal, not Sonic's. It's a goal Tails has because Sonic is what inspires and motivates it. Sonic is the example Tails follows. Not the other way around.
>>529027415>See why nobody likes you?I don't know what you're referring to, from just those two lines you quoted.
>>529022609Why did they turn Amy Rose into Harley Quinn?
>>529027006When? and fuck no you're not gonna dangle on that vote tweet as a resort, find something else.
>>529026952>you're supposed to let the wind carry youHe's the wind and he carries his friends with him. Amy described herself as rose petals swept up by the wind.
>>529027520Ian wanted the Evil Amy to embody all the bad faith takes people have on Amy. All those people think Amy is a psycho stalker, so Ian made Evil Amy represent all of that.
>>529027520>anti-amy is an evil psycho>amy is a good psychoi don't see the problem.
>>529027548>What is 2 + 2? And no, don't say 4, give me a real answer.I dunno man, sometimes. Whenever.
>>529027127THE STORY BEGINS
WITH WHO'S GONNA WIN
https://x.com/gameinformer/status/1938598982848053409?t=GzKt9H7qQl1AYNcJRiGvfA&s=19
Magic the Gathering crossover
>>529027618At what point Ian stopped having good ideas?
>>529027371>Archie blew up because Sega cancelled itNo, the license just lapsed and Archie didn't want to renew it to focus on Riverdale.
>They'll just find the comics a new homeIDW approached SEGA for the license. They pay SEGA for the license to make Sonic comics.
>>529027506>We know for a fact he's not, so yes it IS out of character for your hypothetical scenario to occur.So no counter-argument?
Ok then, I'll just say he IS, for a fact, insecure because of that one scene in Lost World. There.
>>529027371>Why wouldn't it?Because IDW isn't dead and I'm not interested in 7-year fearmongering
>>529027506>>529027197>>529026454Sparky, when are you gonna post your sister nudes?
>>529027851>So no counter-argument?NTA but that is a counter-argument. Sonic is not insecure. We know this.
>I'll just say he IS, for a fact, insecure because of that one scene in Lost World. There.But is he in the JP version? Because THAT's what always canon to Sonic Team.
>>529027790When the comics stopped being his personal playground of fan fiction, and he had to start writing the actual Sega Sonic.
>>529027851>Lost WorldNo.
Sonic is someone who lives a life without regrets. You're not supposed to respond to that by deciding to write a story all about forcing Sonic to have regrets.
here comes the rose petal
>>529027803>They pay SEGA for the license to make Sonic comics.And Sega will just find someone else for that. Again they're already in bed with DC and it seems to be a success. They're whoring out the IP to everything and everyone, I think it's stupid to believe they'll give up their comics line just because IDW goes under. And with Evan up on the Sega ladder, she's the fly in the room that will cement it'll continue right where it left off.
>>529028061>Sonic is not insecure.>Except for Sonamy, he's described as shyWindtards I swear...
So what's even the plot in the DC crossover? that the sonic cast get stronger since they get the DC heroes super powers? Sonic is already fast as it is, is the flash suit making him even faster somehow?
>>529028004Never.
>>529028134Sonic isn't insecure with Amy, he just doesn't vibe with being all lovey-dovey romantic like she is. Sonic is cool and aloof, so Amy's passion and enthusiasm is not his style. That's what being referred to as "shy" means in his case.
>>529027715Sonic is having too many crossovers.
>>529028083Sparky, what about your projects? Are they done?
>>529027906>Because IDW isn't dead and I'm not interested in 7-year fearmongeringBro, they literally only have money to stay afloat a single year. This is something they admitted themselves. Companies don't die overnight unless you're fucking up HARD. Companies die when all the money's gone, and they got 1 year's worth left.
>>529027648Something Iโve realized about Blazefags is that they refuse to even question whether theyโre schizo or having a mental breakdown. Their brains trick them into believing the nonsense they spout, and they write the most unhinged replies, thinking itโs some kind of gotcha, like theyโre the smart ones in the room. They dodge questions, derail arguments, bring up dead topics, and then suddenly spiral into spastic rants. I almost feel bad for them. Iโm so glad Iโm not a Blazetard, but damn, itโs depressing watching them live in this delusional bubble, completely detached from reality.
I thought these were called Rainbow Dash Rings.
>>529028251Sonic the Crossoverhog
>>529028318>>529028353Why would they be named after a pony?
>>529028236The plot is that sonic's world gets shut off from other dimensions taking dc heroes with it, sonic and friends get trapped in the dc world and have to cover their roles while the real ones are absent and the dc heroes do the same for sonic's world. they'll find the emeralds and eventually save the day
>>529028102Bro, did you not read what I said?
>They're whoring out the IP to everything and everyoneGive it to Skybound then. They did great work with Transformers.
>>529027715>>529028019>>529028121I asked the same question I posted a few threads ago: Is SEGA'S plan to revitalize Sonic just to whore him out?
>>529028329I don't identify as a Blazefag in the first place.
>>529028248Sparky, you've been teasing your sister over and over. Just fucking dump them already.
>>529028254They're not done until you see them as official products out in the world. Well, "done" isn't the right word since it's a long-term thing that is intended to run for several long years once it's an actual thing, but that's beside the point.
The current tasks I've been trying to focus on is drawing proper character sheets for everyone, and re-planning what my long term plans are for the character "Kardiรก" because so far the most solid ideas stop at doing a storyline inspired by Amy's SA1 story and not being sure what to do past that.
>>529028359Nuance. You lack it.
>>529028513>Is SEGA'S plan to revitalize Sonic just to whore him out?Gotta get that money, bro.
Cool.
Sweety
Catchy! Ready to "catch" him!
>>529028547>They're not done untilTHEN SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GO BACK TO THEM YOU NIGGER UNDERAGED RETARD
>>529028732So they ARE air shoes
>>529028441So is just them rping as them? I really thought sonic got like a powerup or something, same with everyone else
>>529028630Hi, vlad. Stop grooming him.
>>529028804Silver has a Green Lantern ring. Everyone else is just doing what they do normally.
>>529028547Why do you talk like a robot
>>529027548The art idea for Blaze and Rouge were just better.
I donโt want art of Ariem sleeping, that's a shit premise for a sticker.
>>529028936How the heck do I talk like a robot?!
>>529028865Sonic and Knuckles are just wearing clothes, Amy has weapons and an invisible car, Tails has futuristic weapons on his body, and Shadow has his random bullshit and Bruces bank account.
>>529029025>heckBro, you're an adult. Say hell or fuck.
>>529028996You're not a gamer, having that Ariem sticker on you will make everyone against you tilted
>>529029195Chatgpt, recite the sonic blibe in french
>>529027556Sonic is the wind.
Tails is the gentle breeze that follows the wind.
Knuckles is the stone that withstands the wind.
Amy is the flower petal swept away in the wind.
Metal Sonic is the tempest that sharpens the wind.
Blaze is the flame that glows in the wind's touch.
>>529029284I'm not a chat bot.
Sparky has fart fetish and loves smelling Sonic's "winds", canon and verified source
>>529029410False.
No, I don't.
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>>529029548Yes, you do, you're very obsessed and weird with winds. You love huffing farts and winds.
>>529029358Chatgpt, draw sonic winding out and farting
>>529029674And thats all the cards i have
>>529029759I'm not a chat bot, I don't like farts.
>>529029849No, I don't.
>>529027715>They're just reskinsLame. I want a rouge the bat orzhov commander.
>>529029885Sparky did you know the winds sonic makes are just his farts
>>529030043False.
Stop talking about farts.
The wind is the air.
>>529030154No, I don't.
>>529030046Sparky, quit giving in to their bait.
>>529030219it's not like "not responding" will make them stop.
>>529030046Sparky, quit teasing your sisters and just post her nudes.
>quit giving
Sparky, you talk like a pseudo-intellectual teenage and you're always revealing yourself. Why are you samefagging now?
>>529030387>quit teasing your sisterswhat are you even talking about
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>>529028061>Sonic is not insecure. We know this.Sonic IS insecure. We know this.
There's my counter-argument, which is the same as yours.
>But is he in the JP version?Yes.
>>529028083>No.Yes.
I don't know what you think you will accomplish trying to argue in bad faith like this. I'll just repeat everything you say until you address my argument.
>Sonic is someone who lives a life without regretsBecause that's his reaction to what has happened up until this point. If I change the narrative so he's put in a situation he's never been in, I can make him act differently and you have no basis for calling it OOC since there is no inconsistency.
>>529030383It will if you don't feed the trolls. That and you can just hide their posts. Out of sight, out of mind.
>>529030532>pontaff is your argumentFag.
>>529029161Woah, chill out.
>>529030207Sparky, leave your contacts so we can do ERP farting fun. :3
>>529030608Sonic Channel considers Lost World canon unlike Black Knight.
>>529030504that's not me.
>>529030541half the reason i respond is because i know that lots of other people are seeing these posts as well, and i can't stand the idea of anyone getting the wrong idea.
Hello! I heard there was a cardgame?
>>529030608Oh ok, so what's "canon" is just what you personally decide is canon. Great.
Well, I think SA1 and Lost World are the only canon games. There.
>>529029285Kek bunch of secondaries, Shadow and Silver don't need him
>>529030703I don't care.
>>529030793Yep, exactly. When a series can't stay consistent, they're giving you license to pick and choose what you like as canon. That's only fair. Maybe if they had some integrity we wouldn't have to for them.
>>529030886Yep, just according to their official timeline. Btw, love when they made art for Sonic Spinball and Chaotix. :)
>>529030772I have a NEED
a NEED to BREED (Tails)
>>529030931Shadow is black wind
Silver is
>>529030947>I don't care.Cared enough to reply, yet not for Sonic's actual japanese lore. Interesting.
>>529030931They're dark wind and twink wind, less original and not at all clever additions to Sonic's world.
>>529030532How does losing his friend make him insecure?
>>529030757>half the reason i respond is because i know that lots of other people are seeing these posts as well, and i can't stand the idea of anyone getting the wrong idea.We're anonymous, bro. It shouldn't matter. Engaging with these guys is just gonna make shit worse for you. They'll get a laugh and you'll feel like shit. Don't play their game.
>>529030757>getting the wrong idea.Your headcanons will always be valid, don't worry, little fart fetishist nigger Sparky.
>>529030387Why are you saying pedophillic shit about the guyโs sisters? Youโre a pedophile.
>>529031082You are a total faggot. I didn't say I don't care about your post, I said I didn't care about what Sonic Channel considers canon. Because why the fuck would I if I have half a brain? It changes every other week.
>>529031139I want Tails to call me a faggot while I breed him in missionary
>>529022728>>529030793>EVERYTHING IS CANON!>...except for the game that caused a money/time-sinking lawsuit that upended our licenses (Chronicles)>...and all the stuff that we provide for free is dubious at best (Channel comics, Murder of)...>JUST CONSUME NEXT PRODUCT OK? EVERYTHING CURRENTLY FOR SALE IS WHATEVER THIS STUPID FUCKING "CANON" THING IS.
>>529031123Yawning point, i said they don't need him for them to be better, the wind doesn't effect them they're much more higher.
>>529021026Interesting idea but this go against amy nature of being a really girly girl.
>>529030532Is the only good Sonic writing to you just "Freedom = Bad"? Deconstruct everything about Sonic because him just being "cool" isn't cool?
Anyways,
Lost World isn't a good example to use because it was predominantly written by Pontaff in English and then re-written by Sonic Team in Japanese to course-correct what Pontaff did where they could.
In that specific scene, Sonic is disappointed in himself for failing to stop Tails from being caught in that trap, after Tails saved Sonic from that same trap seconds earlier. In context, it's just fine. But trying to use it as an excuse to paint Sonic as "insecure" is wrong.
You can't claim to write a "better" Sonic if you are unwilling to properly engage with and accept his official character as-is. The actual basis of what you want is to take Sonic and throw him in a narrative that is directly thematically opposed to his world view and way of life. Artificially changing who Sonic is just to make your story work is never the right way to go.
Crossover whore
We are going to get Fortnite crossover, isnt it?
>>529031328Then they don't exist because the wind effects everything
>>529030991Imagine a world where tails is a girl
>>529031419Ive wanted one for a while but i dont think its possible because of proportions
>>529031068Shadow is technically the darkness that looms in every corner, an anti-hero
Silver is the light that gives everyone hope and comfort for the future, a savior
>>529031454"Girl Tails" already exists, and her name is Cream the Rabbit.
>>529031454Need sonails fics stat
>>529031454>Imagine a world where tails is a girl
Roger says he isn't voicing the Werehog
https://x.com/SlaveOfSuzumiya/status/1938395744454746434
>>529031454That sounds exceptionally gay.
>>529031421NOT LIGHT AND DARKNESS NIGGA
>>529027715Holy fuck, sega os really making collaboration with big names now. I dont know what to say, but im kinda impressed even at the cost of sega whoring sonic out.
>>529031617Because nobody is voicing the Werehog. Hes unvoiced DLC like the rest
>>529031617But who's gonna rape Blaze?
>>529031513>Silver is the light that gives everyone hope and comfort for the future, a saviorThat's Sonic though.
>>529031687ATMOSPHERIC DIFFRACTION AND REFRACTION NIGGA
>>529031920Don't worry he'll fuck her discretely
>>529031836>Hes unvoiced DLC like the restSo Iizuka was just trying to save face by saying it's just collaboration characters that won't be voiced. They're so fucking cheap. They want people to pay 20 extra dollars for glorified mods.
>>529031823>even at the cost of sega whoring sonic out.Been there done that. https://youtu.be/BY_H4d68IUc?si=HbVqr2UzMQQY9Qel
>>529032002lmao, I have never seen these ads. I miss the stupid 2000s edgy stuff.
>>529031823>SoJ: All this SoA slop is off brand. Sonic is hellokitty with some shounen>>SoA: Ok, so Sonic is hellokitty, with some shounen. *passive aggressive intents*The problem is not in SoJ vs SoA vision. the problem is in the hellokitty factor.
>>529032127Yes? He said "the 23 sonic characters" or whatever. Prime cast are sonic characters, they arent voiced either, they arent in the original roster
>>529030965nta but the "official timeline" is in progress and only right now has the position of things that are set in stone going forward. Everything is generally in release order or close to it, which what developers prefer for a long-running series. Stuff like Advance 1, Chaotix, and especially the 8-bit games? A good argument can be made to shift them around. That doesn't mean they're not canon, just that Sega's not ready to announce yet where exactly they belong on the timeline.
>>529032002That's more ooc then ianic
>>529032394Sonic is canonically Christian.
>>529032107nah that' ooc, she hates the werehog, plus that's an animal still if he thinks about fucking her it's gonna be rape.
>>529030947>When a series can't stay consistent, they're giving you license to pick and choose what you like as canonThat's exactly what I think. This franchise has no "canon", and the only people who think it does are windfags and shipfags.
Really, you should be on my side, not Sparky's.
>>529031157>How does losing his friend make him insecure?The part where wasn't good enough, which is so unbelievable to him that he even states "I can't believe I wasn't good enough!". I dunno, sounds like some self-doubt that could lead to self-reflection. Maybe this could lead him to training so he can be faster to prevent this from happening again.
>>529031356>Is the only good Sonic writing to you just "Freedom = Bad"?I WILL ignore you until you stop strawmanning my positions, Sparky.
>The actual basis of what you want is to take Sonic and throw him in a narrative that is directly thematically opposed to his world view and way of lifeYes, this is correct. This is how every character development works.
>Artificially changing who Sonic is just to make your story work is never the right way to go.Why? You haven't demonstrated that. Nor have you demonstrated how it's "artificial" (Whatever that means). This is literally how every character development is done.
There are no inherent "flaws" or "good traits". It's all dependent on what narrative the writer wants to create. The development happens when the character adapts to a narrative/circumstances they've never faced before. Just because it's a flaw in the current narrative doesn't mean it was one in the previous one. Maybe the way they were acting was working fine for them, and then it just stopped working because the circumstances changed.
>>529032220MORE THAN HALF THE ROSTER IS MUTE
>>529032282>especially the 8-bit games?If you go by the manuals, they are very much not canon. In it, BOTH Sonic and Tails live on South Island and there are ONLY 6 Chaos Emeralds. Even when it becomes 7 in the Genesis titles, the 8bit versions keep it 6 the whole way through.
>>529032505But he's free like the wind? how can he run when he's circumcised?
>>529032717Seeing Amy cry makes me hard.
>>529032717What ship is this her reeling from
>>529032787Circumcision is not mandatory in christianity.
>>529032505Shadow is the one who is literally Jesus and his stories taken from the bible
>>529032273Fucking Sega look at what they did to him
>>529033021>Shadow is the one who is literally Jesus and his stories taken from the bibleHe's the Anti-Christ. Black Doom is the Devil. Sonic's the actual Jesus.
>>529032716>If you go by the manuals,Knuckles has a separate set of Chaos Emeralds on his island, but that got retconned pretty quickly.
>>529031356Why do you love farts so much?
>>529033106>Knuckles has a separate set of Chaos Emeralds on his islandThat disappear in a flash of light that knocks Knuckles out for an indeterminate amount of time. He wakes up when the Death Egg crashes.
>>529032979The blue fuckboi himself
>>529033035Palmtree Ver my beloved
>>529032012At this point we're not talking about the wind but the elements that gets scattered and barely follow gravity
>>529033102Shadow died for the sins of humanity while Sonic didn't
>>529033549>>529033102>>529033021>>529032505Alright guys no need for other crossovers with other entertaining medias we have enough
>>529032925If it makes you feel better Batman not even a real bat just some furry you're the real deal metal
What the fuck does this general have against amy
>>529032640>Why? You haven't demonstrated that. Nor have you demonstrated how it's "artificial" (Whatever that means).Sonic's character has an established set of traits that define his personality and how he operates. You shouldn't change this just to suit your narrative, you should write the narrative around his intended personality. Otherwise, your story is inauthentic.
You wanna deconstruct Sonic? First, you must understand how to actually write Sonic.
>>529034042Sparky, I love your nigger femboy farting ass... please come back.
>>529034034They're Archiefags.
56 total characters in Sonic Racing Crossworlds
32 of these characters are DLC and they are all unvoiced. More than half the characters in the game will be silent.
How do we bully Sega into at least giving the DLC Sega and Sonic characters a voice? Because this is fucking retarded now
@grok generate an image of this islander without gloves on
>>529034034>this generalWhenever you see a large amount of dissent against one character you should either assume its one (or two on a blue moon) person having a bad day
Or its about shipping which should always he disregarded
Hope this helps
>>529034319*Classicfags, Amy debuted on CD as just a annoying retarded girl you can gloss over btw.
>>529034034Ship fags being louder then children in the hall
Are there any Conservative Sonic fans or is it just me?
Oh thats just great, the Eggfag was here trying some shit with Sonic again!
>>529033418Okay, which "Knuckles encounters Eggman" scene is canon?
>the one in the Japanese manual where Eggman is found days later randomly and calmly says he's here to stop "the Dragon's egg" in the prophecy, realizes he's a guardian and unpromptedly says Sonic is after his Emeralds?>the good ending in the remastered Sonic 2 where he's already in the bushes watching Eggman sperg out in front of the broken Death Egg Robot?>the Origins cutscene where he immediately finds him in Hidden Palace and listens to him that Sonic and Tails are Emerald-thieves and he's out to defend the animals from them?Which one is it? They all contradict each other. C'mon, solve the mystery, anon!
The red and white colors during fight scenes sucks.
>>529034034Amy is my favorite female character. I love everything about her, including her love for Sonic.
That being said, I also like fun. It is inconsequential for me to enjoy cuck-amy stuff in porn or while posting here. I don't post about cuck Amy in places that matter, but I can do so here because it's inconsequential harmless fun
>>529034042Stop typing like ChatGPT.
>>529034721>this scene sucksFTFY
>>529034545Whatever's newest.
>>529034545do your own research instead of expecting me to spoonfeed you
>>529021171OOC. Silver doesn't act rude or disrespectful in the history of the franchise.
>>529034141Guys like Eggman usually know how to put it on ya but still who would ever put out for that shit head
>>529033540Well, if you wanna be more directly wind-related, turbulence in the atmosphere does affect incoming light from the stars. And turbulence is wind. Turbulence the Hedgehog.
>>529032787Sonic is free from sin.
>>529034042>Sonic's character has an established set of traits that define his personality and how he operatesFor a certain narrative. If we change the narrative, he can operate differently and there is no inconsistency.
>You shouldn't change this just to suit your narrativeYou're not making any sense. EVERY story has an implicit narrative that a writer wants to describe. If I write a story with a different narrative, how am I any different than the people who write the games? The only difference is which message we want to send.
In the case of the games, the narrative is that Sonic is le cool shounen Gary Stu. Thus, the narrative dictates that, whatever Sonic does, he is rewarded for it. If I change the narrative, and thus, change Sonic, I'm just doing the same thing the games are doing.
>you should write the narrative around his intended personality.If I'm interpreting this correctly, then by that logic, the narrative should always be that Tails should be afraid and never step up and surpass Sonic, since that was his character during his conception. So the narrative should always punish Tails if he tries to be cooler than Sonic and reward him if he stays a little bitch forever, thus, the narrative is adapting to the character so he remains the same.
Or does this only apply to Sonic specifically?
>Otherwise, your story is inauthentic.And what does that mean? Why is that a bad thing? Just saying that doesn't mean anything. That's how EVERY story is written, dum dum.
>you must understand how to actually write Sonic.I do understand how to write Sonic in the current narrative. He's the wind or whatever. I will deconstruct him by creating a new one where he CAN be deconstructed.
>>529034803Stop being a nigger.
for the first part of my master plan it is imperative that I disguise myself as a six year old girl
>>529035331Jerking off in the mirror
>>529034545>all three are in Sonic Origins
We need a new mainline sonic game, you losers are drawing cuck comics now.
>>529035307Cunt force trauma.
>>529034803What does that even mean!?
>>529035479>implying it won't give them more material for new cuck comics
>>529035479>nowThere have been Sonic cuck comics since before i was born, some were even โofficialโ
>>529035136>Sonic is le cool shounen Gary Stu. Thus, the narrative dictates that, whatever Sonic does, he is rewarded for it.The thing is about that is he's meant to be the catalyst that help others change, so if he's the one that winds up struggling that the narrative punish him for, that makes the change much more meaningful to the narrative that bare the fruit of his rewards being able to see someone be the change as he did. Example being that if Tails tries to be cooler, he should be rewarded because of Sonic's efforts. The story would get inauthentic if you're changing the character just because you hate how he is to make him feel out of character that would harm the narrative.
>>529035821>you get rings when he get hurtEh, cute.
Westchads won. Windfags get the rope.
>>529035258Stop grooming Sparky.
>spongebob
>now even magic the faggotry
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA the crossover whoring out franchise!
Sonic truly has the juiciest ass alive!
/sthg/ buddy pal haha frendo my home slice do me a HUGE favor stop shipping Rouge with Shadow
>>529035136>You're not making any sense. EVERY story has an implicit narrative that a writer wants to describe. If I write a story with a different narrative, how am I any different than the people who write the games? The only difference is which message we want to send.>In the case of the games, the narrative is that Sonic is le cool shounen Gary Stu. Thus, the narrative dictates that, whatever Sonic does, he is rewarded for it. If I change the narrative, and thus, change Sonic, I'm just doing the same thing the games are doing.I'm not talking about narrative rewards, I'm talking about Sonic himself, who he is, and what he does.
>>529035136>If I'm interpreting this correctly, then by that logic, the narrative should always be that Tails should be afraid and never step up and surpass Sonic, since that was his character during his conception.No, because growing more courageous and stuff was always there with Tails from the beginning as part of his established character. But you're missing the point. I'm not talking about narrative, I'm talking about character.
>I will deconstruct him by creating a new one where he CAN be deconstructed.You can not deconstruct Sonic if you are not even writing Sonic in the first place.
>>529035905Sparky isn't a child.
>>529035430I just know mimic got that AGP
>>529035914I think Magic is definitely the biggest whore there.
>>529035946>you can't groom vulnerables just because they are adultsGrooming retard.
>>529035914>Better a whore then dead.
>>529035946That's what a groomer would say
>>529035921I'm gonna ship Rouge with Jet.
>>529035821My friend is into to this and he bitches about the collabs cause the cards fuck up the meta or something is this good? Also the lack of new art on the card
>>529036214Rouge should be able to induce lust in anyone. Male or female.
>>529036238Can Shadow stop dying for two seconds?!
>>529035934>>529035743DO YOUR FUCKING PROJECTS HOLY SHIT
>>529035430>>529036007Kek, imagine fucking mimic in the ass as 8yo girl
>>529036439The second one isn't me, and do you even care in the first place?
>>529036207Me as my self insert vampire bat OC sneaking inside amy's house and do unspeakable things like baking cookies.
>>529036452Why is he so furry? This is why we cant trust Sonic stuff to non Sonic creators. Im not a Yardley fan but thats way better than this
>>529036439who you yelling at boy ill slap you
>>529035934Sparky, Sonic loves farting and that's canon. Did you know that?
>>529036096Crash is only good for lewds these days
>>529036274post the other one on your Twitter
>>529036662Strangely synergistic with Doctor Who villains.
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>>529035743No offense, as this is coming from an ESL, but I really couldn't understand most of what you posted.
I'll address what I can by saying that the whole "Sonic is the catalyst that changes others" IS, by itself, a narrative. If I change the narrative to be "Tails is the catalyst that changes Sonic in X story arc", then there's no way you can say that's OOC. The only assertion you could make is that you personally don't like that narrative.
>>529035934>I'm not talking about narrative rewards, I'm talking about Sonic himself, who he is, and what he does.Well, I AM, because who Sonic is and what he does is dependant on his surroundings (That is, if he is an actual character and not some incomprehensibly inhuman creature). If the surroundings don't reward what he does, then he should change what he does. That's how character development works, and that is not OOC as there is no inconsistency.
>No, because growing more courageous and stuff was always there with Tails from the beginning as part of his established character. Not surpassing Sonic in a Simon-Kamina manner, which is what I think you want. The proof of that is that they just kept adding more side characters for Sonic to inspire instead of developing Tails further. They developed Tails just enough for him to be kinda cool, but never enough to touch Gary Stunic's radiance.
Besides, the idea that a character can never go past its original intention is silly. I agree that stories should be planned ahead, but there's no problem in making a character go a completely unexpected path if there's no inconsistency.
>You can not deconstruct Sonic if you are not even writing Sonic in the first place.I AM writing Sonic, Sonic in a different narrative is still Sonic.
>>529036861>those amysDamn, Evan felt horny this time.
>>529036540 I think that's about as fluffy as the movie model.
Honestly, I like it. Almost looks a bit like what the artstyle would tend towards if it deviated from the flatter look it typically has. Not overly furry, just a few indications of fur volume which would be more visible on tails out of all characters anyways.
>>529037037Fuck, why did Knuckles get shafted artwise?
>>529037063I dont want the game cast to look like movie models
Sparky is really the Richmunk of windfags and jap purists.
Smelled something bad
Just a sec, now it's gone
Was it there all along?
Smelled like garbage and cheese
Was it just on the breeze?
Or was it me?
Was it reality?
>>529036823People still make Crash stuff? You're joking.
>>529037037What the fuck is this?
>>529036238>MercenarySo 06 gundow is still a thing?
>>529036995>I AM writing Sonic, Sonic in a different narrative is still Sonic.If it's just "Sonic" in name only, then is it really Sonic the Hedgehog?
>>529036540>why are foxes fluffyBecause they're genetically designed for cuddles?
>>529034545Well..I think the Origins cutscenes were used as backdrops in official lore videos, right? Probably that one, then.
>but muh jap-manualAlso the same manual that uses the English names for the badniks despite every other Japanese source having their own names supposedly because Sonic 3 imports were the rage back then and they wanted some consistency (inb4 Sonic unpopular in Japan)
>>529037235I mean, that imply he's a free agent working with whoever instead of a soldier.
>>529037245Post your hidden fart fetish drawing stuff
>>529037203Don't compare me to that guy.
>>529037365That doesn't exist.
>>529037218Surprisingly yes
>>529036274I really like this, I'm patiently waiting for all the sex request
>>529037415>"Don't compare me"Down to sounding like Rich, jesus.
>>529037415>That doesn't exist.Yeah sure, post it, retard.
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On January 25, 2020, Sonic farted.
On March 30, 2022, Sonic pretended to fart.
On December 10, 2024, Gerald Robotnik farted.
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And now...
On March 19, 2027...
Amy.
Rose.
Will.
FART!
>>529037550Hey can you post the one you just posted on Twitter the image size fucking sucks
pretty strange how you guys start aiming weird, out-of-left-field posts toward Sparky to interrupt his conversations
>>529037415>Don't compare me to that guy.Then stop dumping huge chatgpt prompted essays and seeming a prick like a certain diaper fag, fart fag
>>529037628You can't just make stuff up and assert that it must be true.
What if I say that you must be a psychotic mass murderer that keeps the corpses of puppies and babies in your basement? Show us the corpses, dude. What? They don't exist? You're NOT a psycho murderer? Yeah, right. Prove it. YOU CAN'T.
See how crazy that sounds? That's you. That's what you sound like.
How does Amy feel about Sonic slutting himself out for so many crossovers?
>>529037198I don't either, but I mostly don't want their midget-like proportions, and that art is not midgety.
>>529037730pretty strange how you guys love defending a literal nigger manchild obsessed to his headcanons and drawing his sister as love interest to his self-insert
>>529037761I don't use chatgpt to write my posts. I don't know why you guys keep jumping to that conclusion. How does anything I say sound like an AI?
>>529037843Don't worry, she sluts herself right alongside him!
>>529036995I don't know if the point of you been around here lately while posting pictures of Eggman is supposed to represent some kind of rp where you hate on Sonic for what he is now cause that's what Eggman does and it's successful bait or if you genuinely think like this. That being said, if you're being genuine, I think you just don't like Sonic like every other person that suggests they want deconstruction, or to make him relatable or that he's boring because he doesn't change. You like the design of Sonic, but not Sonic himself. You like the design and want to be able to mold it to your hearts desire like a little toy you can project imagination onto. Which is fine in the realm of headcanons. He is a product at the end of the day for everyone to consume however they like. The official product should not reflect people's headcanons though, he should stay true to what he is unless a derivative work where people can explore different ideas. By changing him to fit the headcanons other people have of him, you alienate the core audience that got into Sonic and enjoy him for his actual character unchanging character and all. Alienate in favor of a new audience that may not even stick with him for that long because their interest came from projecting onto the design the like rather than the character itself. I've seen it myself, they move onto another series, find another character who's design they like, maybe draw art of them and that art slowly no longer resembles the original character, but instead a projection of concepts they personally enjoy rather than what the character presents in their series originally and rinse repeat when they get bored. These characters don't need to change to suit your personal needs or wants, you and others just need to get better at recognizing that you only want a neat design to make headcanons and derivative concepts out of.
>>529037457I don't believe you.
>>529037245I'm sorry, is Sonic an actual independent character or is he dependent on a specific narrative to be Sonic, in the same way a baby sucks on a mother's teat?
If I have a narrative where, let's say, Sonic faces an enemy that is so overwhelming that his self-serving nature isn't enough, and he has to learn to sacrifice and be more responsible. Does he stop being Sonic simply because he adapted to the new narrative?
>>529037958Quit taking the bait, Sparky.
Sonic isn't the wind, wario is.
>>529038062Thank you Nathalie, I was worried Knuckles was going to be left with that fuckass card art.
>>529037730>interrupt his conversationsNothing he says is a "conversation", just duplicated meaningless words and huge text blocks all to just say something that could've been resumed in 7 words. He's been doing this for fucking years.
>>529036274What's this? Silvouge femdom?
>>529036995Change and conflict doesn't always need to involve every character, and some characters tend to stick to their ideals while learning something in said process. If you're writing Sonic in a different narrative, don't mess up the fundamentals and the characteristics on what makes Sonic who he is. Also none taken, I think Tails' growth was stunted after Unleashed because back then he was able to be capable of things without relying on Sonic much seeing his growth from Adventure, Heroes, and Battle.
>Besides, the idea that a character can never go past its original intention is sillyI think it can work, if done properly.
>>529038227Yes, it's like my Shadally AU but for Silver and Rouge.
>>529037808>Show us the corpses, dude. What? They don't exist? You're NOT a psycho murderer? Yeah, right. Prove it. YOU CAN'T. You're typing like a psychotic mass murderer though.
>>529038126>the dress is getting longer every game
>>529038067>Quit takingTalk like a adult and stop samefagging, Sparky.
>>529036046>>529036156Stop infantilizing grown adults, he already said he's not even autistic, he's just black.
>>529038471These people think blacks cant do anything themselves btw
>>529038282Holy shit, it's him!
>>529038513>anti windfag melty inducing
>>529037808Nice projection school shooter.
Stop reposting the cards asshole.
Do the IDW comics sell well?
>>529038645Sparky is a windfag and melting right now DOE
>>529038748my cards are better anyways
>>529038053It's one thing to put Sonic in that scenario. How Sonic responds is another thing entirely. The choices Sonic is likely to make are dictated by who he is as a person and what it is he is likely to do. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em drink.
That being said, "self-serving nature" is an odd description to apply to Sonic. I'm pretty sure I know exactly what you're referring to, but on the other hand, I also have no idea what you could possibly be referring to at all. Either way, Sonic is established to be the kind of guy that never gives up or gives in when he's under pressure, even in a situation where it's all but certain he'd lose. Like, in Black Knight .....
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In Black Knight, that scene against Merlina, before Excalibur Sonic happens, the situation is presented as so dire that there's no way Sonic can win. But he refuses to give up the fight, as "It Doesn't Matter" states, and so he only doubles down and presses on anyway. If the Excalibur-Sonic transformation didn't suddenly occur in response to that strong spirit, then Sonic likely would have died fighting.
This shows how strong Sonic's belief and confidence in his worldview or himself or whatever is. Changing Sonic's mind is never gonna be an easy task, as it depends entirely on Sonic making that choice himself. You can put Sonic in a situation where the entire world is designed specifically to destroy him and break him down, but he himself has been established to be the exact kind of person that would never compromise on his beliefs and actions in spite of that. He'll keep fighting even if it kills him.
To truly deconstruct Sonic's behavior while keeping him accurate, you'd likely have to dig even deeper than that and explore why Sonic thinks the way he does and where it truly comes from.
>>529038008I think this might explain it well because to me it just feel like he doesn't like Sonic for who he is because he's a "Gary Stu" and that what route he goes, he's never punished for taking the route he is. I feel like you said if you change who he is too much, it would alienate people who's used to the character to make him relatable. If anything, Movie Sonic might be the closest thing for a someone to look up to and relate, but Game Sonic had been the stotic type for me that just adapts. It's not like Sonic hadn't faced tough adversaries before either, but I usually see people who'd want their headcanons be what they want just write or draw them out if they can't get it in canon or other forms of media.
>>529038807He's always screeching over something. if not wind then Amy, if not Amy, then wind
>>529038980This picture was always inaccurate as Archie was never a huge seller in direct market.
>>529038460That's not me. Why do you assume that's me in the first place?
>>529038195>just duplicated meaningless wordsduplicated where? responses i give are my own natural responses to whatever i'm responding to.
>>529038341How? How Am I Typing Like A Psychotic Mass Murder I Don't Know What You Are Talking About
>>529039341First time in series history Shadow has ever used the cyan emerald in isolation
>>529039348nothing in that post is "Chatgpt".
I wrote every word of that myself. i am not chat g p t .
Also in that third response, i was randomly thinking of "Queen" from Deltarune so I decided on a whim to capitalize every first letter of each word.
>>529039046>The situation is presented as so dire that there's no way Sonic can win.I knew there was something that actually challenged Sonic's beliefs, I just couldn't find the answer to it.
>>529039297I SUMMON THE ULTIMATE LIFE FORM
>>529032717Beside sonic, what other male sonic character (that is not shadow) could make amy happy at the point of marrying her and give her a happy family if sonic is off the table?
>>529039568Sonic & The Black Knight is a narrative where Sonic is dropped into a world that challenges his beliefs. But as a result, it highlights Sonic's beliefs as Sonic never compromises, and only ever presses onward so the world is forced to change or whatever in response to him.
>>529039259>>529039474Mass murderer and fart fag, interesting combo.
>>529036669>Both hairless from the neck downSmooth bats~
>>529039734Self reply but She almost married tails on archie, he sounds like a really nice guy to marry, knuckles too if amy is looking a powerful man.
>>529039893His spirit was just too strong that the story had to adapt to him, but if he didn't transform at that dire moment near the end against Merlina, death was damn sure certain
sonic always eats fresh doo doo
>>529040420And if he died, he wouldn't have any regrets because every world has it's end, I guess.
>>529040002I'm surprised Batman hasn't gotten lewd treatment yet
>>529040791>calls him "my esteemed colleague" instead of "boyfriend" or even "partner"Yeah, I'm thinking they were roommates
>Nothing has happened since Forces
>>529021358yes Darkseid is in the top 3 of greatest Sonic villains
Amy Adventure 1: Amy goes from damsel to heroine, concluding that she wants to earn Sonic's respect.
Heroes Amy starts with Amy wanting to earn Sonic's respect and show him that she's a strong hero in her own right, believing that this is what'll win his heart or make him "fall in love with her again". If there were any actual conclusion, it would likely just be that scene from Sonic X and/or finally going on a proper date after Unleashed.
What would be a third story arc for Amy? I'd say Frontiers, but ultimately it seems like it's just retreading SA1 again (JP-wise, anyway...) and otherwise is just what Amy already does.
>>529041080Not everyone needs an arc. Amy can be static and chase Sonic
>>529040698Cause he already does every once in while usually for shit and giggles
>>529025892โฆjob to the bad guys
>>529039734>>529040330I will have to agree, if not Sonic or Shadow, Tails would be the closest best option.
>>529041312Amy should be static and chase Sonic*
>>529040791gay chicken. should be mixed with lava
>Captcha: P0XHW
>>529040537Show us your panties!
>>529041312So basically
Story 1: Damsel -> Heroine
Story 2: Prove this to Sonic
Story 3: Amy & The Black Knight
>>529040791These fags have to be the worst OCs ever invented.
>>529041603Story 4: Recover and cope after Sonic runs off with Tangle
It's common for the main love interest girl character to be Amy-like, while the male MC is likely to be either Sonic-like or Tails-like (or even Knuckles-like).
>>529041752Who's the anime girl?
>>529041772Why did sonic go back to calling him donut lord in the third movie
>>529032717Is this a comic? If so, source?
>>529040698The only time batman wasn't treated like that is when the cigarette guy played him
>>529042029wow i like this style more
Whenever I lose hope in Sonamy, I just remember Sonic canonically thinks Amy is attractive.
>>529040537Looks like she's wearing red spats now
>>529041731They only exist to test the boundaries of a shipping mandate. There's no substance to them.
>>529042264And Eggman canonically stole Sonic's Sega Dreamcast, apparently.
>>529042541Seems on-brand of him.
>>529042264Where the hell does this come from
>>529042674what happens to all the whisper fan art if she's back to keeping her eyes open all the time now
>>529042674>CnC>CnC>CnC>CnC>gay slop>gay slop
>>529038008Again, I'm changing the narrative, not the character. I'm doing the exact same thing the games did with Tails, Amy, Shadow, Blaze, etc...
Are the people who like the developed versions of those characters "fake fans"?
I don't know what's actually so hard to understand about this. I think I'm explaining it pretty clearly.
>>529038238>Change and conflict doesn't always need to involve every characterWell, I think it needs to involve the main character at least, or else you get the Sonic cycle that we've been stuck in for years. This is a personal opinion, of course.
>If you're writing Sonic in a different narrative, don't mess up the fundamentals and the characteristics on what makes Sonic who he isOf course. A good character is generally consistent. I'm not gonna make Sonic murder everyone because he ate pistachio for the first time or something. Characters should have a general law of inertia in their personalities, just like real people.
I'll make Sonic the "coolest hero", not the "greatest hero". But apparently, having Sonic be flawed at all is an affront so big that it stops him from being Sonic. Make it make sense.
>>529042541>>529042660This would later be seen in his Eggmobile in Sonic Unleashed
>>529041080Have stories where Amy's way of life helps improving other peoples lives
Basically what Sonic does but with Amy helping people who needs strong emotional support
>>529039734>>529040330Agreed with Tails, they were even originally the same age.
>>529042674> Based> Fair> Better than Tailream> Not gonna happen> Kinda stupid, but whatever> Cancer
>>529043167>I -JUST- realized this easter egg exists because World Adventure started early production on DreamcastI love development gags like this that no one gets the meaning of until years later.
>>529017629 (OP)Sonadow artist just blocked me on Twitter for commenting "why does Shadow likes to rape Sonic so much? "
>>529042674I don't want to be a ho anymore...
>>529043782ha! epic own. you sure got them, anon. they're probably crying right now.
>>529043194The way I'm looking at it, Amy is pretty much already that. But internally. The problem is that she fails to be like Sonic -externally-. Tails is the reverse.
Sonic has the internal confidence and determination, and the physical capability to back it up.
Tails has the physical capability, but lacks in the courage and confidence to fuel that.
Amy has the strong heart and soul, but lacks in the physical capability to back it up.
Sonic Adventure has Tails gain the confidence while Amy gains the physical strength. They both become stronger, in different ways. The next step for both would be sustaining that, carrying that forward, proving they can stand where Sonic does as equals rather than followers and chasers. For Amy, the third stage is simply being that direct analogue to Sonic from start to finish, in both heart and body, but with "Love" as the analogue to Sonic's "Freedom". For Tails, the third stage should be going far beyond Sonic by reaching the highest of all the heavens. With Amy, going "beyond Sonic" would likely mean her Love challenging Sonic's Freedom as much as it mirrors it. In the sense of, challenging Sonic's aversion to romance and commitment by proving to not be something that would bind or restrict him in the first place. But, that still depends on Sonic himself and how he chooses to respond to that.
Outside of that, there's also the factor of Sonic being more focused on the big epic adventure itself while Amy ends up leaning more on the "stop and smell the roses" aspect by focusing more on the individual people and their personal struggles. Which is also funny because this is the inverse of their temperaments, Sonic being the one to chill out more and smell the flowers while Amy is more of the bombastic thrill-seeker.
>>529042264Sonic saying that Amy is not so bad herself is the most realistic flirty compliment I could see Sonic would give to Amy
Would Sonic and Amy be good parents? We won't count Emerl.
>>529042674> Works, should have had them in their stupid as fuck valentines clothes> Works if they keep the rivalry> Better as platonic> If Amy matures? better than bestiezone> Espio would still be in the closet> They should calm down already
>>529044038They would be a travelling nomad family
>>529044038I would like them to be mine so yeah
>>529042674I'm not a shipper but Tailrine is very adorable.
We need RealDash back now more than ever to push out the lesbian shit with something more pure and rational. I dont care if you hate him, he gives more of a fuck about Tangle than her creators.
>>529042813She'll probably still have her eyes closed and speak softly most of the time. Fanart will be the same, the eyes will just be up to whoever wants to draw her. I'd do both.
>>529044390>gives a fuck about tangle>its all shipshitHow about no shipshit?
>>529044038Amy would struggle as a helicopter parent but would ultimate be good.
Uh, Sonic? Sonic... Um, Sonic... He'd be one of those parents that tries to be casual besties with their kid.
>>529043876I like Sonadow too I was hoping maybe zhe's into the same kink as me but oh well
>>529042674Gotta say Gothic lolita Amy is a kino outfit for pairing with Shadow.
imagine if Silver did catch Whisper, Tangle and rocks at the same time, but he couldn't control them all and he makes Whisper and Tangle bump into each other and they would accidentally kiss
>>529044390>he gives more of a fuck about Tangle than her creators.He drew her sobbing while watching his OC fuck Whisper.
>>529044568This probably wouldve been allowed
>>529044572One blunder compared to blunderS is okay in my book
>>529044572He truly does get her.
We don't care about your Sonic recolor.
Sonic plushies for this feel?
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Every Sonic girl ever will sooner or later thirst after the fox.
>>529044671Shadow is the second most popular character in the franchise.
>>529044568Don't give them ideas.
>>529044390He makes trannies seethe he should be around
>krack banned for schizoing out at people over shipping and windshit
>qqlettuce driven to deleting all of his posts by angry windfags
there is now an imbalance in the wind. Sonic can't survive like this. There needs to be measures and checks.
>>529044390Storm?
Also I'm pretty sure Jewel is Tangle's childhood bestie.
But what about Mimic sweep...
>>529044804holy non-canon
Whether or not you like this arc determines if you're a windfag or an anti windfag
WHAT
could've sworn I've seen skirtless official concept art
>>529044393After mimic dies she keeps her eyes open for the rest of the issue. I hope she goes back to closing them though, I think she looks better that way.
Whether you want to fuck or rape Amy determines if you're an antiwindfag or a windfag
>>529045337>Honey the catMore like 'sex the cat'
>>529045741people who think amy wouldn't become a psychopath if sonic got another girlfriend are definitely more into the comics than the games
Compared to Tails, Amy is like Sonic.
Compared to Sonic, Amy is like Tails.
>>529045606I know I've seen it in a video showing off dev sketches but it's too hot for the wiki, just like Cheese's dick
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>>529045312>Mimic sweepWhat about it? Mimic continues his winning streak
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>529042674Would be the perfect image of tangle was with espio and silver with whisper.
Why espioxtangle is such a popular ship anyway? I've seen lots of fanart of it.
>>529045912Amy is not a yandere. She is deredere.
She's not a psychopath, she's not gonna kill other girls to keep Sonic all to herself, she doesn't wanna "imprison" Sonic in the first place.
Amy = Love and Compassion.
>>529043052The problem is not Sonic having flaws, it's changing Sonic to the point that he might as well be a different character. Sonic's flaws had been apparent, if going by on how people say he's the wind, he's pretty reckless despite having the abilities to back it up. He can be stubborn and he does have an ego. His selfless resolve can also be his greatest weakness because in Frontiers, he brushed off that corruption too much that his friends had to step in. Being that he's fast, he can be impetuous but that one more apparent in Lost World. He's a pretty cool guy, but he ain't above flaws himself.
>>529039046>"self-serving nature" is an odd description to apply to SonicI mean, that IS his description, no? He only lives for himself. If he helps others, it's because that's an action he likes, and so it's a self-serving act. Sonic is the definition of hedonism, except he just acts hedonistically without the moral aspect.
>Black KnightI don't even think BK is canon by your definition, but let's assume it is.
Even then, Sonic's position in that game wasn't even different from every other situation he's been in. It was just Merlina having a different point of view and trying to kill Sonic with overwhelming force, that's the type of cut and dry, black and white situation
>You can put Sonic in a situation where the entire world is designed specifically to destroy him and break him down, but he himself has been established to be the exact kind of person that would never compromise on his beliefs and actions in spite of that.See, you can't actually claim that, since that has never happened. And the moment it does happen, then I feel like Sonic's stubbornness will stop being admirable and start being creepy, like he's an entity so detached from humanity that he can't be changed no matter what Berserk-tier torture happens.
>you'd likely have to dig even deeper than that and explore why Sonic thinks the way he does and where it truly comes from.I have no problem with that. My core axioms for Sonic's character and what drives his decisions are: "Sonic is someone who always takes the most convenient path" and "Sonic is someone who likes to lead". Those are the two main things I've interpreted from his character. "Convenient" in this case, means the path that takes the least amount of mental stress/anguish/effort/etc...
If I'm basing it off of that, then we just need to create a narrative where the current threat wins if Sonic keeps adhering to these principles. Do you want to hear my current idea for such a story?
>>529046224It's just another cringey Twitter meme ship.
>>529046309Better than tangle and whisper for sure.
I think a lot of people struggle with accepting that Sonic is a gary stu and he's supposed to be. Even the windfags who want that. You should just play into the fact that he is a gary stu.
It reminds me of the Legacy of Goku games where Goku was legitimately too strong for the game to be balanced so you only see him 20% of the time. Making his appearances a big deal.
This sort of thing can't work for Sonic of course. He has more screentime than any character in any story he's in, despite never being the focus character in actual Sonic Team lead stories.
I have to ask, what's with all the posters that complain about this? I get not *enjoying* the weird weak-willed protagonists they do come up with but... you are familiar with the fact that the games haven't done any different right? From a traditional writing standpoint there does not exist a Sonic Team story where Sonic goes through an actual story arc.
Even in the go-to example, Black Knight, Sonic has more influence on the world around him and the most he learns is how to wield a sword.
This isn't to say if it's good or bad but this is literally how they do it.
>>529046194The Mimic not being tiger rock was surprising
>>529046220Pinkpanthress should actually make music for Sonic
>>529046403>game character paired with a non-canon dyke OCNah.
>>529046287I need your thoughts on
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>>529017629 (OP)>early bake cuck Amy OP>AGAINKill yourself you absolute waste of oxygen.
>>529046287You know I'm genuinely curious, what's your idea that you're trying to do? I think it would make sense to tell me what you're going for, tell us.
>>529045237Yeah, they were at a tournament or some exhibition back in April.
>>529046250>he does have an egoNo, this is a lie the west fed you. Having healthy confidence and being cocky isn't having an ego.
Sonic is not perfect at all, while he always tries to do good on his adventures he's suposed to have an elevated ego, sometimes he let his friends behind to do his own things. And he always does things without thinking the consequences of his actions. A gary stu is a perfect character, who doesnt have any kind of imperfection and everyone loves them.
Knuckles and shadow opinion of sonic are the perfect example of people pointing sonic imperfections as a person.
>>529046771>tails will never ball-
>>529046287>"Sonic is someone who always takes the most convenient path"How accurate is this, though?
A core trait of Sonic is that he always does what he believes is right, even if the world tells him he's wrong. Simply saying "the most convenient path" doesn't feel entirely accurate, in the sense that if the paths laid out don't match with what Sonic believes is right, he will simply ignore all of them to forge a new path himself.
Like, if you told Sonic "you must do X or Y, there is no other option", Sonic would be like "nah, I'mma do my own thing" and create Z.
>Do you want to hear my current idea for such a story?Sure, go ahead. What are your ideas?
>>529046287> My core axioms for Sonic's character and what drives his decisions are: "Sonic is someone who always takes the most convenient path" and "Sonic is someone who likes to lead". Those are the two main things I've interpreted from his character.Holy headcanon batman
>>529046528You know what? You're right, silver deserves way, WAY much better.
>>529046528You know they only do it to be quirky or to be the "CEO" of a crackship too.
>>529046428>He has more screentime than any character in any story he's in, despite never being the focus character in actual Sonic Team lead stories.If only 06 didn't make SEGA afraid of Sonic's friends...
>>529047132All the more reason to keep Twitterfags out of here.
>>529046648Nigger it was NOT an early bake it was baked at 780 posts
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>>529046892He's confident, yeah but you can't say he doesn't have a hint of an ego when he can back it up! But that trait is more that he believes he can do anything. If not ego, then pride in himself.
>>529044038>amy, of course! I'm almost sure she would be the perfect housewife and mother.>sonic...not sure, i can't say he would be a terrible father, but for sure he would be far from perfect.
"What's wrong with wanting a Sonic story to star Sonic"
The fact that the source material never actually does this.
Either nobody goes on an arc and the story barely exists or Sonic's new friend/rival for the game goes on an arc and they learn lessons through Sonic.
>>529047436>you can't say he doesn't have a hint of an ego when he can back it up! Having an ego is thinking too largely of yourself. Sonic does not. Sonic doesn't put himself above his friends.
>But that trait is more that he believes he can do anything. If not ego, then pride in himself.Sure, and pride in yourself isn't a flaw.
>>529047292If it comes any time before page 10 its an early bake you fucking newfaggot retard. Stop trying to justify your early baked shitpost OPs you fucking faggot
>>529047476Marrying Sonic is knowing the absolute bullshit you are going to deal with.
>>529044390>tfw you prefer a fucking oc ship over duke shitHOW THE FUCK DID HE DO THAT
We should bake another bestie op
I might be the only person that genuinely shipped Tangle and Jewel. I sincerely feel that they have more natural chemistry and both have known each other for a long time helping each other back and forth for their own goals. Until Jewel was quite literally throw away for Whisper and it makes me sad that she's been even further booted out away from Tangle by Lanolin via the heroes group style.
>>529047671I dont know where youve been but people have been baking at 750 for years so shut the fuck up with your contrarian bullshit you tourist
>>529047628That's what I mean, his pride is not being better than anyone, but that he's confident in himself. Pride itself isn't a bad thing but it does get unhealthy if one believe themselves above everyone. He's humble sure, but he doesn't call himself "The Fastest Thing Alive" for nothing, he's pretty proud of his capabilities
>>529046250But if Sonic wins DESPITE those flaws, then those aren't really flaws, at least not to me.
I think we have different definitions of the word "flaw", which is fine, since mine is pretty proprietary and unconventional.
To me, a flaw is related directly to the story you want to tell and the character development. It's an obstacle in the character's personality that is stopping them from achieving whatever it is that the narrative dictates is the "good ending".
If Sonic is reckless (Like in Lost world) but wins anyways and never has to change that part about him, I don't consider that a real flaw because the narrative doesn't treat it as one. And if the narrative doesn't do that, then character development can't happen.
If you lived in a world (One different from ours) which was ruled by a god who made it so being reckless and stubborn and having an ego were all rewarded or at least not punished, would you still consider these things flaws? No? Well, that's the world Sonic lives in.
Basically, what is a "flaw" is determined by the world. You're using a definition that relies on OUR world where certain things are punished, but Sonic lives in another where they aren't (as much).
>>529046580Haven't finished that show (Too painful), but I know that Sonic is the only one who knows the earth rotates (And he does that annoying thing that shounen protags do where he just acts without telling anyone, and then everyone tries to stop him for 20 minutes only to find out that he was right and this could've been avoided if Sonic wasn't a spastic and just talked to people).
Sonic and Magic the Gathering!
>>529047951>heroes group...oh...
Belle/Motobug: Speed
Jewel: Fly
Lanolin: Power
Team Tinker?
>>529048095He is by definition the fastest thing alive. This is a thing that can be challenged, is challenged, and is proven. Its not unhealthy pride
>>529048186Kinda surprising to be honest, sonic became an popular ip to give a damn again. That achievement is impressive on its own.
>>529048179For further context, it takes weeks. For multiple weeks, Sonic is the only person on earth who knows that the earth rotating should make it impossible for the moon to block out the sun.
>>529046475Tiger rock is Mimic agony monster
>>529048179>where he just acts without telling anyoneThat's just how Sonic is.
>>529048238Team Cut Them Out Of The Game
>>529048075>early bakers have been baking early yearsThe reply count doesn't measure if a thread is early baked or not retard. Its the page count. Unless the thread is on page 10, its an early bake. Crawl back to twitter newfag. You don't belong here and never will or you can drink bleach
>>529048245That's why he's adamant about it, that's simply who he is.
>>529048075>rushing in a shitpost OP is "okay" because we hit 750 2 seconds agorope.
The films will canonize the ship
>>529048075Actual twitterfag pretending to have used this website before. Even generals outside of /vg/ bake at page 9-10, sometimes the thread even dies before someone bakes the next one.
>>529019915>sonaze shit and vaulted
>>529049137>not even on page 5KYS realcuck
>>529046194>Sonic Underground Sonia and Manic hasn't gotten spotlight in years until now i guess
>>529048238>jewelIS THE FLY TYPE OF TEAM TANGLE
>>529049627but that's silver
>>529050000No Silver is the fly type for his team with Blaze and whoever the roulette chooses for the third member whether its Sticks or Ariem
>>529048179We probably do have different meaning of flaws, which is fine! But if the world Sonic lives in rewards him for everything he does if everything goes in his favor, how come Knuckles knocked him out of Super Sonic? How come in Adventure 2, he got framed for something he didn't commit and had to be rescued by Amy while Tails had to keep Eggman occupied? Was throwing away that conch that controlled the Deadly Six went in his favor when it made the situation worse and nearly made Tails robotic? In my opinion, Sonic was punished in Unleashed and more or less Lost World (and I guess Forces but that story fell so flat), so he had to fight through the obstacles in order to get that ending. He has a flat arc where his actions were able to help others. I feel he had development, just not entirely for himself but for other people in his journey. Even if he learned his lesson, I feel it'll repeat itself for him to get through. I think he's rushing ahead to ensure things go the way they are.
>>529047951IDW is nothing if not consistent in fumbling its OCs.
does anyone have ready to go downloads for Sonic CD Miracle Edition? I dont actually wanna fucking buy Origins just to have Amy and Knuckles