>UPCOMING EVENTSArc World Tour 2025-2026: https://www.arcsystemworks.asia/awt2025/
Lucyna Kushinada DLC: Summer
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>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.com
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>Unika Starter Guidehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eDuQLvoOeA
>Latest Major Patch 1.43 (Dec. 23rd)https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGST/Version/1.43
>Current Patch 1.46 (May 26th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2472/
>GGST: Dual Rulers TV Anime https://nyaa.si/view/1979541
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>Online GGST Tournamentshttps://twitter.com/nafgcto
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https://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resources
https://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases/tag/v0.2.1
State region when making lobbies for the thread and announce in the thread when you close them. You ft10 anyone you make the lobby. Keep training and keep on rockin'!
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>>528793762
Imagine if GG also added the GBVSR gremlin chibis
I want Golshi to go on an autistic rant after I beat a Leo player
Is regular ranked out in strive or still not yet
>>529048434What's the hold up
It's gonna break once it launches anyway, everything they do does, just send it
How vile Queen Dizzy's braps would smell like?
>>529050447We like bubble bobble
>>529049831Nahhh he fr did that shit tho ngl
>>529051650Jiyuna not ugly...but not cute either
>>529049831Do people not realize Arcsys is a large and old company? They want to diversify.
We. Like. Bubble. Bobble.
I didn't know Bubble Bobble was a platformer. I always thought it was like Puyo Puyo.
>>529052792They shouldโve said they were non fighting game projects. Wouldโve made the stream better received.
>>529053727That's puzzle bobble
>>529050447The only shit thing about the showcase was that the Daisuke teaser looked unimaginative gameplay wise.
even japanese women aren't happy...
Vault is just zweihander but weaker and even then it's a broken piece of shit
Maybe Johnny being strong is less about dev favoritism and more about his general design kit
>>529053823I thought that tweet was specifically about Daisuke's comments. He said they want to diversify into action games and bring in new talent.
I know this'll get me hanged and quartered but I wish the proximity ranges for cS activation were increased
>>529057297I think most of it including Daisuke talking about diversifying their games wouldโve been taken better if the entire audience didnโt have expectations for marvel, guilty gear, or blazblue.
>>529057595I wish you could do 4S to do it on purpose
When Strive launched Daisuke had a video interview about wanting to make small scaled games in the future
If you had to choose the single strongest move in the game, what do you think it would be?
>>529059514Fire or Garuda
>>529059514Axl bombah of course
>>529059514burn it down. it's literally broken. stupid as shit
https://youtu.be/6qoU3iZS7_s
Clayton doesn't play and i've never even seen these combos. This guy really is the goat of games. I don't know how he does it.
Gooning to Lucy until she comes (out)
>>529061535Fuck off Clayton go troll sfg
Loosey isn't going to be shit
>>529052792Thats fine but how is Daisukes visionโฆโฆโฆ. Damon and Baby of all thingsโฆ
It really couldnt at least be a janky ps2 era third person action game of some sort?
>>529059514I unironically ironically believe it to be Potemkin Bustah
what is cooler
DAMON and BABY
or
"bunny girl looking over decaying city" (title unannounced)
>>529064157I will schlick to lucy
>>529064786she isn't for you. Lucy is built for big Asuka cock.
>>529064706not fair to compare concept art to low-budget 3D gameplay
>>529062807Hope you're not better than Clayton. Rope yourself already.
>>529061517lab let spotted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER0z7pDyENU
Hating on Clayton is cringe desu. He's a real life video game character.
>>529064909you're not stopping me!
>>529066638smoking is normally disgusting but it's hot when anime girls do it
It should have been Maine
>>529068075I wish he'd made a character action game instead of whatever DAMON and BABY is.
looking for the baby to my damon
>>529068075Damon as a Tokon guest
Damon and Baby sweeping the VGAโs
Damon as the face of the company
Damon and Baby multimedia empire
Damonlikes
/ggg/ will turn inro /D&Bg/
The funniest outcome would be if DAMON and BABY is actually the best mid-range budget title released in whatever year it comes out and becomes a viral hit.
>>529069784I don't know if daisuke deserves to be vindicated on this one
>>529069927So far he hasn't done anything wrong. He told us exactly what kind of game it is (a low-budget action title) and explained that the goal is to establish ASW in a new genre while leaving room for younger developers to direct their own titles.
>>529069784daisuke thinks heโs dave the diver baka
>>529068841That would require money that Arcsys clearly has no interest in spending. And why would they when they can put money in Tokon instead?
>>529072496Isn't Tokon just plain old funded by Sony
>>529072496I doubt the first DMC cost that much.
>>529049831>AerodatI hate Nu-Bloobers so fucking much
>>529052145Jiyuna managed to live out /jp/'s dream and have 2 hapa daughters. Im quite shocked myself ackshually. He's right thobeit, pogface hype era for new fightans shouldve ended with panda global
>>529068841>character action game theyโre working together with the studio aquria
you donโt want that lol
>>529049831why do people work themselves into a shoot over people trying to get paid
>>529074508>studio aqurianever heard of them
>>529074898i guess strive with it's day 1 $20 recolor dlc didn't make enough money
>>529049831One of my issue with these new batch of BB players is theyre overdramatic retards. You alrrady have your best game ever in the form of CF, what the fuck more do you want? They should just admit they want attention instead of acting like Temu GG vets.
maybe as a creator he simply wanted to create something new and money has little to do with it
>>529074898envy is a virtue now, chud
if you don't hate everyone that has more money than you then you're ontologically evil and probably a bigot
i wanted a sol badguy character action game covering the crusades but i also wanted a guilty gear anime and I genuinely feel like they don't have the soul for that anymore
>>529074965for good reason
literal slop action devs
Personally, I feel bad for the Hotel Dusk guy and that dude who made that beatemup rogue mashup. Arc shouldve tempered expectations and mention that no Tokon or fighting game news are going to be revealed in that direct, now every comment in posts marketing those games are filled with misdirected frustration instead
>he's not in the secret discord server
>>529075284They're mad that they weren't around for the game's "heyday" and basically want to be esport stars in the game
>>529075836Not joining the wolfcord
>>529076065It should be easier to be an esports star in CF now than it was 10 years ago...
>>529075981discord.gg/BPqkwAVf
>>529076163Do NOT click this, it makes mustard gas.
>>529076163I'm not clicking this because I heard it makes mustard gas.
>>529076065And yet they couldnt beat Fenrich, a guy who doesnt even play the fucking game anymore and just joins western majors for fun. They should just stick to their lane if they cant even do that
>>529076158No, ten years ago there were in fact sponsors for CF. There are none now.
>>529076492But you need the skill to get the sponsors and if you have the skill you can get sponsors for your stream.
And the level of competition is a lot lower now so it's easier to get the skill.
>>529076158I think he meant circuit esports. Not a side bracket that gives a coupon
>>529077128it means hackerman is back
>>529075647nah, we will get wacky chimaki adventure 2 (featuring a bridget cameo,) fuck the nu-metal aesthetic guilty gear was based off of, fuck sol badguy and fuck blazblue
>>529076163>bunch of gay bridget art
>>529077128xheโre two-spirit, chuddie
>>529079118Why did people think Daisuke's new game was going to be Blazblue or Persona? Daisuke doesn't make those series.
Sick of fighting Ky's faggot kids
>>529079329Xitter and dumb content creators set themselves up for dissappointment
>>529059514in a vacuum it's obviously Fire
the entire character is just a list of unique mechanics and resources to limit how often he can use that one move
>>529076163>cliquecord i don't like that place. it feels like highschool. i get social anxiety when typing there. but i'm fine saying whatever here, despite everyone knowing it's me. why is that, g3?
>>529076163>cammy on icon of server>leavei dont want to know what this goonslop thing is
>>529084406My face belongs between Dizzy's thighs
>>529084406Dizzy is so hot.
>>529079329They got cocky with Bridget and thought they could grab more characters to ruin
>>529085481>>529085983You're supposed to console me. don't pay attention to her. pay attention to me!
>>529086938if you want me to pay attention to you then maybe you shouldn't post the hottest girl in guilty gear
>>529087014but i didn't post millia
>>529087154i will, however
>>529086938Those hands? Mine.
I know there's been a lot of back and forth about Bridget, and this post isn't for that. I want to talk about the fact that, whether you like it or not, Bridget is transgender, and how it's affected me.
I am transgender. However, I'm not the stereotype some people have in their minds about how a transgender person is, I'm moderate and level-headed and usually try to approach things from a realistic angle. For much of my time being a trans man, I didn't really think having representation mattered that much. I was the guy in college that rolled my eyes when my professors talked about how diversity is important in writing, the one who took things with a grain of salt while my peers were all-in supporting progressive topics. I thought it doesn't matter how a character looks or identifies and you should be able to relate with or like a character regardless of how similar they are to you. And I still believe it is perfectly fine and wonderful to like characters different than you!
But because of Bridget, it finally clicked for me why representation is important to so many people.The uncertainty Bridget had about accepting her feelings, especially because of the worry about how others would perceive her and whether it would ruin her relationship with her family, these are common struggles trans people have to face. It certainly was for me, becoming aware of my feelings during a time where society largely still thought trans people were freaks (imagine your own mother derogatorily calling you "butch" and shaming you just for wanting to dress like a boy!). And because trans people were still "freaks" around this time, I wasn't met with a whole lot of love and acceptance initially. My mother gave me the silent treatment for a week when I first came out. My family ultimately abandoned me.
>>529089723Kids at school would blatantly ignore my name/pronoun preference. Even years after starting HRT, I had a job where the managers knew I was trans because of my then-legal birth name, and they went out of their way to call me "she" when I totally looked and sounded male.
So playing Strive, seeing Bridget go through this all-too-familiar struggle, and to not be met with doubt or disdain or prejudice, but warmth and acceptance from Goldlewis and Ky, it almost felt like by extension, I was experiencing the warmth and acceptance I needed when I was the little anxious person in Bridget's shoes. It especially hit close to home because I started really sinking my teeth into GG while I was in an abusive situation, and learning Ky was my cope. Hearing a character that is special to me saying such kind things that have applied to my specific situation, it made me realize that experiencing characters and stories that are different than your own is great, but experiencing characters and stories that are like you provides a feeling of unmatched understanding, something that makes you especially feel at peace when you've been living in a world that has rejected you and tries to deny you and your rights at any opportunity.
That said, please respect Daisuke's decision to make Bridget trans, even if you don't love it. And while you're at it, please respect trans people. The world could really use more kindness and tolerance.
Don't respond to that guy respond to me instead
>>529089948ASW set themselves up by calling it "mid range" titles and calling your indie love child project "Damon and Babby."
>>529084406>Sol thighs Need that
Here's what I think of my main's current match-ups, post your match-up charts bros
>>529091628Is Anji-Sol really that bad? I'm just a floor 9 shitter but it seems like Anji owns me
>>529091807it's not, anji can just ouspace sol making his pressure impossible to escape and spin if sol tries to throw out a 2S or something
>>529091807Gunflame against slow fan guy stronk
Bandit bringer air stalls stronk
Having a dp stronk but double stronk against fan guy
Anji defense against throw weaker than high/low or left/right and Sol throw mixup and pressure stronk
Sol roundstart against fan man really stronk
Sol cS hit high to hit needle
>>529092325>anji can just ouspace sol>Anji's long range pressureAnon what the fuck are you on about
>>529091807>I'm just a floor 9 shitter but it seems like Anji owns meAnji specializes in owning non celestial scrubs. He's the dedicated scrub killer of this game.
>>529092358How do I Bandit Bringer air stall?
>>529092828Just do it in the air? It stops your momentum which is the stall part which you can space or time to beat anti air options of people who were expecting a normal jump in or a different trajectory for your jump.
>>529089723if you know gg's story you know he's a man, whatever they told you on the strive is just a cheap way to appeal to retarded western culture
>>529092972Oh that's what you meant
Doesn't that just get me 6P'd though? Or whatever his spinny anti air move is called
>hit 2k
none of are you allowed to bully me ever again
>>529092525sol can't 5K when he does this move and sometimes even DP whiffs, which means anji straight up wins the round
Anjee is a very cool guy I like his large breasts
Unfortunately I do not enjoy his dancing playstyle it is not fun!
>>529068075a delusional fucker to surpass Katsuhiro Harada, you're bounded to fighting games forever
>>529093510did you hit 2d after?
>>529086938STOP she is FOUR YEARS OLD you sick fuck
>>529098886she's 28 in gear years
>>529093170Those are anti airs anon, we're talking about using that move to bait and beat anti airs. Of course if you time or space your moves wrong you'll get called out
>>529096535>Testy and Oscar are not evenHuh, how so?
i think my age has finally diminished my fighting game skill beyond repair. these past few years i've gotten slower, sloppier, and overall just worse at fighting games. it is a painful realization that I will never be as good as I used to be.
>>529089958RAPENIGGAHOTASHI
This needs a hitbox on her knee
Why are Chipps fS, 6hs and 5hs better 6ps than most 6ps
>>529107096He has no health
What even is the point of moves like this guard crushing, it feels like a meme specifically introduced to make the game feel jankier at this point
Like even Nago players don't care about this
>>529109180You can't YRC during guard crush.
>>529108862We've had this discussion for over 29 fucking years across multiple FGs now no that doesn't excuse it
>>529109294I know what GC does it's just that it doesn't actually change anything on certain moves like that for either player other than making the game handle like ass for the defendant
>>529049831>try and make more money>tryThey *did* make more money. Why is Strive being the best-selling Guilty Gear such a difficult pill to swallow for them?
>>529109352I said it with Akuma and Iโll say it with Chipp
>>529109770Think they mean compared to other genres. That Blazblue platformer has over 1k players all the time. I wonder how much it sold compared to strive, or how much a new guilty gear spinoff like it would do. Surprising none of the new projects had guilty gear characters to sell.
>>529110059If they just made a platformer where you play as Bridget with no story it would sell a million copies.
drank alcohol and now im good at the game again
drank alcohol now I'm texting my ex
>>529111223that's pretty baikencore
>Lost celestial challenge after going 2-1 against someone with 200 elo
>Would've won the set if I didn't spill massive spagetti on the round ending combo
>>529115269Delilahโsโฆ
>>529115581Sneed, if you could hide your power level, you'd have won EVO by now...
>another day passes with no information about ranked
anyone remember the guilty gear combo video that had this song as the bgm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2erooZD7FWY
math bros how would you represent a characters movement within a tier list the better you get as them? Like for example:
HC players are barely sentient training dummys starting off, but at mastery basically unbeatable. A line starting at zero and disappearing off the chart
Zato's start being similar but it never really gets better. You just learn to damage control.
Sin/Unika start off strong and get slowly stronger, but you've mostly mastered the characters strengths by successfully locating them on the character select screen.
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>>529128309you implied it yourself, a line going up a chart, no fancy math needed
just a simple two axis graph, with X being player skill and Y being tier placement would work fine
eg
>>529129357I considered a line graph but it'd get real fucking messy if you included all characters
It's just beautiful
IT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL
finna giganter jP tick buster
bros I'm so depressed about the steam release of blue archive being "delayed" at the last second
Instead of Jam they should put Damon and Baby in next season
>>529140648Arccsys got turned into a marvel skins factory. Please understand
>>529139954what do you mean by "delayed"? are they planning to shove some light beams and lens flares in it?
>>529145139Doesn't gog like anime? why didn't they release it there too?
Imagine Delilah and Ramlethal being in a Blue Archive crossover. We get Hoshino and Reisa as strive guests.
Does Strive ever go on sale on PSN?
>put down giganter kai
>dude sprints face first into it every time
Is this actually a legitimate strategy? It made me realize I don't have combos for if they just tank it
>>529149663yes that's what i've been doing since s1, just tank it and watch out for the overhead. Not sure if the recent bullshit buffs changed anything
Why do season 4 Ky's play like they're fresh out the psyche ward with a nose full of white powder?
>>529149663Itโs just 3 hits on block. Better than getting anti aired
Which GL color would Trump use?
>>529160442If you build it, they will cum
NA lobby
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>>529091628If you play any character other than Aba and you think Zato actually beats your character, I promise you, you just need to get better at the matchup.
>>529161115if you're not a top 5 zato you're opinion doesn't matter
zato players are bad at zato
>>529161115Zato vs Anji being bad has been one of those things that was hard established by both sides, are you floor 8 by any chance
>>529161632>it's le peer reviewedI don't give a shit. My matchup opinions are the only correct ones.
>>529161103Damn, I'm not gonna be free for another hour. This room better still be up when I'm back.
>>529161632You wanna play Zato into my Anji? You could learn a few things
>>529161103I built it
why isn't anyone coming...
>>529161103>nobody cameclosed
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Notice that everyone wins against Dizzy
>>529161103>246531someone asked me to post the result after i said i use lobby codes to find porn on nhentai. this one was:
[Makimura Akari] Oba-san dakedo, Daite Hoshii.
>>529164934>vanilla sex with middle aged womengood lobby code
>>529161103I'm free now if you host again anon
>>529161854
StarLord better have an install that plays a unique dad rock song or at least gets to play it after his regular super in Tokon
The stupid TPS was underrated
>>529172295This is just a regular tier list
>>529172295>only characters that threaten sin are other top tiers + unika (who may be a top tier depending on who you ask)makes you think
>>529176578>Anon finally figures out that tier lists are based on matchups, heavily weighted towards the top tiers Wow anon, how many years did it take you?
why do jap locals look like they take place in a porn casting office
>>529178791>one cute foid in the roommore than the average NA local
>>529178956Even if you fucking loved fighting games you'd probably be someone afraid to attend an NA event as a woman
>>529179257japanese men are more likely to be rapists i think
>>529178956>>529179257Tekken has plenty of actual women playing both NA and worldwide
It's kinda funny apart from 1 specific pro they all play Alisa and Xiayou
>>529178791>clean office bereft of miscreants and foul odorsAnd why is this a bad thing?
Why is Unika wearing two jackets
>>529179334why do you think that?
>>529179452because when i was in japan there were women-only train cars and signs saying not to grope strangers on the street
>>529091628>>529096535>>529164295>>529169642After crossing multiple MU charts from all characters in the game I've come to the conclusion only Pot players think Pot has any losing MUs lmao.
Virtually everyone that has made an MU chart in s4 has put Pot as a hard losing matchup no matter their main.
I mean it's true, the character entire kit invalidates zoning in itself and pot buster beats every gapped offense in the game.
>>529179430to hide her sex appeal
>>529179687He is top 3 for sure, but doesn't Johnny do well against him?
>>529179605I wish NA had trains
>>529048274strive is getting regular ranked?
I fucking hate how Nago's recoveries are just a couple frames slower than other slow character's recoveries despite having even more reward, disjoints and range
WHY THE FUCK THIS RETARDED ASS CAMERA ONLY FOLLOWS THE CHAR IN THE AIR COMPLETELY CUTTING OFF WHO IS ON THE GROUND?
why can't it zoom out like the old games? Chipp and millia do nothing but abuse this shit and it makes combos harder cause i have to guess where my char is.
The fucking basics man JUST KEEP THE FUCKING CHARACTERS ON THE SCREEEEEEN
>>529180484i don't think this is applicable unless you're suggesting that american women who get groped are also murdered so they can't report it
>trains in japan are safe for wo-
I can't get over the fact that the input reader here can't grasp holding the an extra input while doing a motion
We literally didn't have this issue during SF4 with its notoriously bad reader and leverless and keyboards were not half as popular but these are the same devs who saw YRC eating inputs, saw people absolutely trash it and just made that a non metered generic game mechanic instead
>>529184847what do you mean? what kind of situation does that happen in?
>>529184847what are you talking about
>>529185050>>529185217If you for example do a super input and end up holding the other way around while pressing the other which isn't really possible on stick and not really the case on he d-pad as you use one finger on the latter
It is kind of an edge case but it's also stupid that it's not addressed in the modern era with all its fancy shortcuts and stuff
>>529185413you're mad the input parser doesn't handle illegal inputs in a way that would give you an unfair advantage...?
>>529185482The way capcum and most other companies handle it is ignore the said advantage and possible OS and get you the move according to the last input, which is what I would prefer
>>529185615isn't it the job of the SOCD cleaner on your hitbox to handle this though
>>529185413What a truly fucking stupid complaint
>>529185727It's not the case with older ones or keyboards in general
>>529185825Hey man I acknowledge it's an edge case but it's also one that has a solution so why not use it
>>529186072my friend used to play on keyboard and now plays on hitbox and he's never complained about this to me
i use stick myself but i suspect this may be a skill issue
>>529186072What exactly do you want? Because currently holding 4 and press 6 gets you 4~5. If you want it to give you 6 or 4+6 then take a fucking second to think why that'd be extremely stupid
>>529183031>chipp abuses ithe doesn't, at most he uses the wall combos
>millia abuses itits all she has lmao
>Watch Tene's talks about weaknesses of top tiers
>He says Sol is easy to backdash
>He even says this while showing a move that's practically impossible to backdash under normal use scenarios and ignores how he has a dozen guaranteed and relatively safe ways to catch backdashes
>>529186887>he doesn't, at most he uses the wall combosHe does with air stall and j.D scenarios but that's not really something you use often at high rank
>>529186887chipp's j.2K isn't the busted tard tool it was at launch but it's still quite good
Can someone explain why everything Sin does catches backdashes
Like you literally can't backdash against anything this character does except a throw
Also is 4chin dying again
>>529183031my favorite thing to do with jack-o was to jump cancel off a servant and j.d
>>529187837>Can someone explain why everything Sin does catches backdashesSo that a monkey can win EVO this year.
>Winning
>Game is stable till this point
>Game deciding thing is happening
>Massive lag and stutters
I refuse to believe these are just luck things
I have ethernet
I have a pc capable of running this thing consistently at 4 times the resolution at stable 60fps
Speaking of backdashes, how the hell do you discourage people from backdashing as Anji? Every move has like 2 active frames and massive recovery.
On top of that, every knockdown throws them fullscreen which makes things even more difficult.
>>529188776>>529188776delay c.s
anji's c.s literally has more active frames than the average, he;s good at it.
>>529188776>how the hell do you discourage people from backdashing as AnjiThat's the neat part
You dont
>>529188947Ah, because you can cS in neutral or off soft knockdowns
>>529189069>from neutraluse your forward moving special move the entire character is based off of you fucking retard
>>529187059>Watch Tene's video about resource gain's relationship to combo scaling being Strive's hidden comback mechanic>after a few minutes it just turns into an instructive lesson on how Pot and Goldlewis are broken
>>529187837my muhfuggin stamina nigga
>>529189243Fuujin has very low active frames and actually stops its momentum way before becoming active unlike literally every other forward momentum special
Why do you fags talk like the sole authority on these subjects when you haven't even tried playing the characters you're talking about
I just had the weirdest bug ever
>Mashing 2p on defense
>Rollback occurs after the first one is out and it shows me hitting but reverts to blocking
>Still holding the exact buttons, no intent to even change what I'm doing
>Game stops holding my motions and gives me 5Ps instead
First time seeing this
ever since damon and baby was revealed i have been unable to tk my moves
>>529190415ever since i switched to dizzy i have been unable to climb above 1400 elo
>>529190407I still have no idea how a 30 frame move with no evasion works so often, I'm going to frame that move and put it on a wall
Damon king would solo the guilty gear verse
Don't mind me just mindlessly controlling neutral at all times
>>529189563I have played plenty of Anji, I probably have more games on him than you
He deals with backdash in neutral the way most characters do, you take space and let them push themselves to the corner or you hard call it out with something like Fuujin
>>529190939I don't think I realized this was disjointed.
>>529190939mine is better and i play a low tier
>>529190939I triangle jumped that
>>529190939With all the backdash discussion in the thread I think it's funny how this fS just has 6 active frames for some reason.
Do you guys have tournaments here?
>>529192530Not since the... incident
>>529190939I love easy 200+ damage without ch
I love long range -6 buttons
I love red wild assault
>>529192530last one was a year ago
Aba is an interesting character. Most stance characters like that have a weak one and a strong one or can lose a whole game if they're not careful with their meter.
>>529194376ABA needs hard reads to get in on normal mode doesn't she?
The only thing that's kind of iffy is that it's really easy for her to convert any hit into a mode change
It is still insane to me that they gave ram's sword toss guard break
>>529194598for me it's insane that they gave unika's DP that hitbox
>>529194598If any guard crush is deserved it's that. Look at Pot.
>>529195364Shut the fuck up.
>>529194507She has so much health she can just tard rush her way in
>>529195364Repeating it doesnโt make it true. The swords come back after a wallbreak anyway and the prc midscreen setup faggy as fuck. Pot needs it more than she does
The moment you block against Ram and theres half the stage or less between you and the wall, you've lost the round.
>>529195937Pot is an all around better and easier character and has no cost for it
>>529196557Without a knockdown its a reaction check. Ram is doing guard crush offense from her far slash. If pot wants to do that he has to use BWA or PRC. She is just as cheap. Like we didnโt see Reddito washing Arcrevo
>>529196243new to the game, is ram overpowered? Wanted to main her since she has cute feet but i dont want to be a tard who just picks top tiers to have easy
>>529198469yes she just won the last pro tour
>>529198469ram has been consistently high to top tier since launch but most of her players are footfags so they underperform in tournament
the best ram player is a square-jawed man who thinks he's chie from persona 4
>>529198469she's strong but not really top tier these days
she inhabits the space between the top tiers and the mid tiers
if you like her she's good to learn on because she's simple
install a barefoot mod and play a more interesting foid
>>529199343how about unika she has that tomboy vibe, i bet her feet are cute too.
How does she play also, is she op?
dizzy probably has cute mature toes but i hear she is trash also i am kinda noob so picking a setplay char is probs a bad idea
The top tiers are Sin, Johnny, Leo, Pot, Goldlewis, Ram and Nago. There's a very clear gap between them and everyone else.
>>529199632Unika is new so her tier placement is somewhat undefined but most believe her to bem high to top tier, not the strongest but very very good
>>529199632>actual unironic footfagnope, not gonna help you, sorry anon
>>529199632dizzy is a mother but she's also a 4 year old
she probably has small, meaty feet
she's kinda ass and and can be lab heavy since you need to meme people with setplay and mix to keep up
unika is a tomboyish kuudere
she probably has lithe, athletic feet with exaggerated arches
she's easy to play and pretty strong. nobody agrees on her power level yet since she's new but she's somewhere from mid to top tier. she's easy to pick up and play
>>529199767Funny how so many of the top tiers are big bodies (all big bodies except bedman are good). Did any other games have this phenomenon?
>>529199767Imagine telling someone during season 1 that Nago, Leo and Ram would be the game's constant top tiers.
Haven't played in a while. How is Chipp?
>>529200465Katano is a Nago main who used to be a Potemkin main
>>529200621unfortunately still male
>>529201142Goldlewis can fix that.
what if millia had a backdash
>>529199767>The Johnny sneakHe has no reversal
>>529202117the crazy thing is he doesn't need it to be S tier
>>529202189In a game like Strive? That puts you down one or two tiers no matter what. A tier max.
>>529202256yeah. if johnny had a DP he'd be SSS tier
instead he's a humble top 5
>>529202318He's below anyone with a reversal or armor.
>>529202586He has more reversals than Happy Chaos or Potemkin.
HC is low tier because he doesn't have a reversal
>>529202669>Armor>>529202682Not top tier. Better A tier than Johnny.
Mfs really be downplaying Johnny in 2025 because he doesn't have a dp
>>529202775Armor is not a reversal. Potemkin has to hold oki. Johnny doesn't, if he has meter.
Ram and Goldlewis also lack meterless reversals.
>claiming HC isn't top tier because he thinks it helps defend johnny
this guy's a better mental gymnast than the zatofag of old
>>529202958i think he's just doing a bit
it's a pretty good bit dough
>>529202852Goldlewis is just overtuned to the point it doesn't matter
>>529202958The current top tiers are so much more retarded and they're also the easiest characters
>>529194507>ABA needs hard reads to get in on normal mode doesn't she?Lol no, her options are actually really strong against most of the cast considering all she needs is a single stray hit, even if it's a trade. She can also just say fuck it we ball and transform against slower characters with not much fullscreen presence and ignore the whole game.
Another thing is, getting in and out of the stance has no risk. She does not have to give up some pressure if she's getting into JR through a hit, she can start the party then and there despite it being one of the single strongest win cons. It runs out? Not only is it not punishable, it's a straight up fucking free chain shift/moon drive activation
Hell, you can even keep a combo going in some cases
>>529202852Pot does have Super prc thought
>>529199343>she's strong but not really top tier these days>>529198469Don't listen to that tard, there has been nothing that implied she fell off top 5 even with all the other buffs and nerfs changing the list
I mean still, go play who you think is fun but yeah she's still busted and easy
>>529203180Well shit, so he does.
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>>529202117>>529202586Uuuhh so are we saying release HC was bad
I dunno man, this is like saying pre-CF BB games were even worth playing
Ram doesn't have a meterless reversal either and that guy had nothing to say about her being in the top tier group.
>>529203449Same startup as Anji's 5H btw
>>529203498He was like Goldlewis, or I guess Potemkin if you want to pretend he doesn't have one, where any weakness is overwhelmed by strengths. But Potemkin has the best meterless reversal in the game so that's not a big issue for him either.
>>529204127isn't he supposed to be on estrogen
why is he so much taller than me
>>529204496>Potemkin has the best meterless reversal????
just ft10 him and end this drivel
>>529204624>isn't he supposed to be on estrogenno, that's western fanfiction
bridget is naturally feminine so there's no need for him to medicalize his troonsition
elphelt is exactly my type
>>529205238excuse me ma'am, you're not attempting to sneak by the reversal check stop are you?
I want to play in a lobby with all my friends from /ggg/
>>529205753Well you can host if you want to
>>529205238Factually untrue because I played her and I only play hot bottoms.
I dropped Ky Season 3 because he topped starting then
>Nitro posts a video saying Anji is top tier
>Literally doesn't even know how spin works and goes no hard to explain this weird spin move that doesn't exist in the game
>Also can't grasp how being able to nullify the spin with meter is a massive thing
>Actually starts seething about a 31f overhead that is hard punishable on block, can be option selected in many cases with a strong punish and has a garbage hitbox and low reward anyways
>Comments all talk about how he is a character with no weaknesses and how he's Pot tier right now
I thought Leffen was the king of retarded takes
>>529207083>31f overhead...?
>>529207552He was showing the kara version of rin
>>529207662It's not actually a 31f overhead if the first 15-20 frames of startup are indistinguishable from a mid or low.
>>529192530not since faggots took over here
Last tourney I remember was the ABA tourney. There's been one more recently right?
>>529207083nitro is dogshit i clipped him in tower
>>529207965Ah yes because Anji comes up to you and takes your controller when he initiates the fuujin input
Dustloop descriptions for moves are either "THIS MOVE IS FUCKING BROKEN BRO" or "DO NOT USE THIS MOVE"
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>>529208570Well, if you try to stuff it and he just does fuujin, you get autoguarded.
It's a mixup.
>>529209515nuance is dead, and we killed her
>>529211482Fuujin has no guard frames by default
Why are you niggers always talking in bad faith
Also you can grab spin, fuujin and rin. None of these are throw invul. All of these put Anji in front of you
>>529213087>Fuujin has no guard frames by defaultCan you kara the charged version? If so then you're still getting some guard frames.
>>529213308Do you fucking know what kara actually means
No you can't kara fuujin itself and if you're charging fuujin it's the exact same thing as spin but you can't hold it for as long which means nothing changes and you can still fucking grab it
Charged fuujin has 32 fucking frames of startup what is wrong with people complaining about Anji, at least complain about his actual strong suits instead of just lying about basic facts about how he works
would anyone be up for a lobby?
>>529213625I would if you're NA
>>529213625Thumbnail looked like sheโs tied up
>>529213528You can cancel fuujin into a followup before the active frames come out.
How is that not a kara?
>>529213852You can't do a kara version of fuujin, you can do a kara version of the followup
Either way the said options are also all 30 frames and up assuming the earliest possible frame to cancel out of fuujin with no spin
i legit have no counterplay vs nago
maybe with ranked and people unable to dodge the matchups they will get even more vocal and violent against arcsys tone deafness, maybe someone will snap and finally torch their hq to the ground
>>529214027>You can't do a kara version of fuujin, you can do a kara version of the followupI think we're just arguing semantics at this point. Fuujin is the move you're kara canceling and the followup is what benefits from that, assuming I've understood things right from reading Dustloop. I don't play Anji.
whats with this retarded anji downplayer
he dodges
doesn't know shit about how the game works or any character let alone even his own
think anji is somehow bad when hes high tier
>>529213625I haven't played in a month but I'd play some lobby games
>no meterless reversal
>no meter reversal
Thanks confirming my boy is but a humble upper mid tier /ggg/
>>529215437He's pretty low tier honestly because you can just grab the roll
Every single post is just about how unbalanced the game is, do you guys even like Strive?
How did you rate Carpe Diem?
>>529218341I haven't been replying to seethe posts because I've been striving
I'll play giovanna until I buy unika
>>529218341>StriveDon't you mean Damon and Baby?
>>529219487barefoot gio f.Sing my cock, balls and face
>>529218341I love Strive but I'd love it more if my character wasn't lacking in every single privilege that top tiers get for free.
>>529218341Itโs alright. But when itโs time to pick sides Iโll be playing rev 2 (respectfully)
https://x.com/i/status/1939068539853226010
And people still defend this crap
>>529224227read the replies
certain moves use a lot more than simple hitbox vs hurtbox
>>529224842Yeah but why
This is Blazblue game design
>>529224227>>529224842why would it work that way
IF I CAN MEET YOU SOMEWHERE
I'LL BE THERE AT YOUR SIDE WITH A SMILE
CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE OH
NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING ELSE
>>529225031a proximity check is not a property tag.
>>529225064you are upset the hitboxes, which you aren't supposed to see, say the move should hit but it doesn't due to another mechanic that you have not modded the game into letting you see.
>>529226757i was under the impression that everything in guilty gear was hitbox-based except for grabs
what other strike moves care about proximity? is there a list anywhere? does dustloop say? i did a quick ctrl-f for "proximity" and nothing came up but it could be mentioned elsewhere
>>529227304Anji's Kou literally can't hit grounded opponents even though the hitbox starts low to the ground
>>529227304they made I-no's note proximity so people couldn't just jab it from long range and make it explode uselessly
>>529224842the only reply is someone literally guessing
>>529227304dustloop calls it "activation range". it's under "stats for nerds" on whatever move.
What are Potemkin's weaknesses?
He doesn't seem to have any, but surely I'm just missing something.
>>529218341I just think the current balance patch has overstayed its welcome. This is the longest patch this game's had so far
>>529228940weak defense, arguably even weaker than last patch despite PB getting armor, since he can't use backfist to crush fucking mids in the corner anymore
>>529049831>>529075284These new gen BB players decided to ban Carl in majors, you dont have to take them seriously. Not even the most bullshit character in the game (Rachel), theyre just larping as OG.
>>529230128okay this is one of the most bs things i've seen in strive and that says a lot, no wonder ky players have always been so happy to throw out stun dipper, it's guaranteed to work
>>529218341No it fucking sucks, but if you want to play something that only sort of feels like GG and don't want to play a discord fighter, then this is all we have
>>529230128Wow. Ky really is Z-tier.
>>529230768the video literally shows ky's red box going through elphelt's extended green WITHOUT hitting her lmao
>danzai beats reversals
oh
>>529231387exactly, because instead of hitting early and leaving ky punishable between the hits, the game prevents that
am I retarded for feeling like this game is just 5 seconds of neutral into endless pressure and mixups? This shit is so obnoxious
>>529231598welcome to anime fighters bro
>>529231472so it is bullshit that stun dipper works as a punish?
Ice spike should beat armor. Dizzy needs an answer to Slide Head.
>>529231627it sholdn't on extended hurtboxes
>>529218341this thread has more cultist playing it than FF14
>>529232042can she no longer beat it by dashing?
>>529077128Two people entered on the same tick when the server was at 31 players.
>>529232331She can't do almost anything she could do in Xrd.
>>529149663I mean what are you gonna do? Pot Buster lol
>>529231794it costs 50 dollars
>>529232793To fire this DP
For 12 seconds
>>529198990best description of ram desu
>game literally filled with trannies forcing themselves to play a game they hate
more secondaries than persona at this point
>>529233238nearly every online game is people forcing themselves to play a game they hate
>>529233238>>529234424i only play games i like
that's why i play strive
>>529231412It was literally made for that reason
>>529234424except the ones i like of course
>>529231598>5 secondsso youre on a top tier?
lucky you get to experience even 5 seconds of neutral before any of the upper cast just mashes their invincible neutral skips into rps for your entire health bar
I hate strive so much. I'm going to go play a game I like instead. it's bbtag time!
>>529231598Just pick a character like Pot, Anji or Axl that slow the pace of the game a good amount and make the opponent hate the game even more
only 4 more weeks left
until I know the fate of this Planet
2 more weeks, and I'll have enough money to go to japan
>>529235757why?
think you will find a 15/10 jp GF?
>>529236232bridget x unika mogs bridget x may so bad
slop x slop mogs slop x slop so hard
Nobody cares about cringe """""transbian"""""" bait ships
>>529235950he can experience getting destroyed at japanese arcades
>>529235757I don't like this art style.
>>5292359501/10 is enough for a visa
>>529237526An ugly wife will give you ugly kids. They'll grow up to be incels, and there's truly nothing worse than a hapa incel.
>>529237753I don't need kids to have a visa
I love my retarded progeny
>>529238139Why does this image contain a link
>>529238139>ky was a nerd and he's an honest mid tier>leo never did his homework and he's a degenerate top tiersin is clearly on the right path
>>529218484i like it but it's kind of average/forgettable. it's in the same ballpark as chip, anji, and faust themes. not something i'll go out of my way to listen to, but won't skip it if it's on a playlist.
I think they've been phoning it in with the dlc character songs since baiken
>>529243559i disagree
ABA looks like she took a shit ton of effort to make
>>529243559The Circle, The Gravity , Ups and Downs and ATOM are in my top 5 lol
>>529205238Uhh what is going on with her legs
>>529050032Her farts are so sulfurous, that her butt can be used as a flamethrower.
played against dizzy for the first time.
what the fuck
>another day passes with no information about ranked
finna backdash the beasts
>28 frames
>people still regularly get hit by it
Is this the greatest rabbit-in-headlights move of all time? You're fucking dead, hit or block, if you don't stuff it yet even good players will freeze up
>>529252682good players try to backdash it on reaction
>>529252682I always mash on it and it works
Goldfags dont have real frametraps because they just assume you respect everything they do
>>529258450>learn to backdash different typhoons>they give gold typhoon cancelsFUCK
oh right I was supposed to ritualpost
>>529264327the thread is at last sanctified
>>529265558me, aba, and my goonmeat
>>529265649not me im snoozin im ko'd i'm out like a light
>>529265649i mean for a lobby
>>529230770You can play +R and Xrd online without having to join a discord for a "real" GG experience very easily.
>>529266009>XrdWe don't play that crap here.
>>529265874I'll join a lobby
>offers a lobby
>disappears
confound it all
>>529218341I love strive but I dodge every anji and chaos
>>529218484Fine until the Holy orders/awe of she section, then it sounds like itโs jacking me off
>>529264081How do I get a fat cosplayer gf
>>529269659im watching anime right now ill open it when im done
https://x.com/odawara114514/status/1939338750016004562
damon and baby added a new deflect shield bug
Would it really be that cheaty to let me turn on inputs mid match? I just want to know how I fucked up that super
Remember that time they took away char specific gravity and Testament just didn't work for 6 months?
Theoretically GL is at times minus
You didn't download me. That was a guess not a read
>>529270361What anime sis?
yomi is for inputlets
I have every possibility nested into a penultimate OS which I go through every interaction
>>529266486unemployed GOD East Coast lobby
Lobby Code: 149369
>>529281443bro it's sunday you could've hid your powerlevel
>>529252682I didn't know I could mash.
>>529281443>149369(C88) [Satellites (Satetsu)] Shoujo Sui (Touhou Project)
>>529281443In awe at the size of the lad
>>529281443been gainfully employed since last decemeber, can i still join
>>529247180Yeah her wings also get hurtboxes on some moves, it's kinda wack
>>529272470You donโt get it HE HAS TO BE BAD BECAUSE HE USED TO BE TOO GOOD
>>529281443Is it still up
>>529247180She is really bad
>>529286894just closed it holdon ill reopen it lol
>>529287297Nah it's all good, go rest
We can have a lobby later during the day
>>529281443ggs
I can give MU advice if you want but im not a good axl so I don't know much other than press 5P a lot
I really want ranked mode already. Grinding ranked in SF 6, Tekken 8 GBVS Rising and COTW has been fun. I just want to do the same in Strive. Why are they withholding any ranked mode information from us. I don't even care about a balance patch at this point. I just want the tower to die and to be able to queue matches in ranked.
>>529287641>GBVS RisingDid the ranked rework actually do anything, all I remember was how everyone hated the original ranked system there
>>529287641they started working on it as they announced it
they have nothing to show or talk about
>twitter screencap from literally who
anyways fuck all waifufags
>>529287725It's piss easy to rank up to master rank now
>>529247180Were they too lazy to model Necro and Undyne or something
>>529289663it's uhhh character development she doesn't need them anymore :)
Maybe
Just maybe
Chipp shouldn't be able to confirm into super from rekka
More cancer Nago tech
https://x.com/i/status/1939198110087160026
>>529289663it's a lot of work please understand
I just realized that the Arcsys showcase was a honeypot to attract young game developers with the prospect of career growth. Daisuke's long message makes more sense if you see it that way.
>>529295941>no codemadame?
Why couldn't they update Strive to add the mascots
Very minor local tourney in winners semi
https://www.twitch.tv/magik4fgc
I don't even know where Wisconsin is in America
>>529296226If I was Japanese I'd be applying.
>>529297364We don't even have system voices anymore. Even Uni has those.
>>529298217>Even Uni has those.They just ported the old ones, UNI 2 isn't really a real sequel and more like a version update
>>529298334But still, Uni has system voices while they're absent in Strive for some reason. They even added them in Granblue.
>>529298893Oh I'm not arguing that part, yeah Strive should've had them too.
>>529297532>They have actual women thereWowzers
>>529292678Crazy how Nago has crazy tech that only people who don't play Nago discover. What other chars have lazy mains?
lucy3
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>>529287372gg i got shit on
i fought some other bedmans in tower and i think i got the idea
i think i play too aggressively for the type of character i play
bedman j.S is still CORNY though
>>529297532>I don't even know where Wisconsin is in AmericaMost Americans don't know where Wisconsin is.
>>529298951Even something as simple as customising the wanted poster with titles or different artwork would've been cool. Strive is so soulless outside of the gameplay.
>>529300313Strive feels like a budget title that inexplicably has amazing graphics. You can tell they weren't actually expecting to sell three million copies.
>>529300313It's an extra shame because the wanted poster is such a cool idea in the first place.
>>529161828what is this image from
>>529301316i think it's liu bang who became a bandit and later overthrew the chinese emperor and founded the han dynasty because the alternative was to turn himself in for execution over a relatively minor offense (prisoners escaped under his watch and he couldn't recapture them)
>>529299794Greenbay Packers and cheese.
wisconsin is just minnesota but for faggots
who in turn are merely canadians in denial
>>529299784his j.S is one of the biggest crutches in the game and does everything
I WILL spam it shamelessly
there was a good few times where I just held downback and waited until you get impatient and ran at me, then won on defense to take a turn. standing around pressing 5P is lame but it does work
I think you'd rather take space by dashblocking into 6K range, poking with the usual 5P/2H/i.AD back j.S stuff. gradually pushing bed into the corner
I was able to poke with needle from full screen but from 80% screen that wouldn't have worked
>Doing my challenge
>The guy who's in celestial already refuses the rematch after losing even though the game was stable and we had a good question
How and why are people this insecure
>>529310296He downloaded you but was feeling merciful
>>529310296>>529310946>Going to win my challenge in the next second>Faggot rage quitsFuck this gay earth
I also got matched with the first fag I was fighting with and got the celestial from him now.
>>529299784>lucy has norwood 2Zamn
>>529309509why did he make a sex addict his girl? (virgins DO NOT reply to me)
>>529315473She was his gf before she became that
>>529317185eh, from how he described his gf before the time travel stuff she wasn't know blushing virgin lol
>>529315473there is no evidence i-no has ever had sex
>>529318235She literally explicitly states so to Sol and HOS in +R in one of her character specific intro lines
>>529318423Anon I-no says literally anything, anything regarding order sol is basically fanfiction AND 90% of shit in +R is completely noncanon. Her entire persona is fake as shit just like she is a fake as shit magic homunculus with fake memories based on the actual being that is megumi(Axl's real gf).
I-no did have sex, with me
>>529319468HOS has no idea what she's saying but Sol acknowledges it
>>529319474Just launch the game with those characters a couple times till you get the lines?
>>529319632>trust me bronot a source
>>529319632>Sol acknowledges itAgain. 90% of shit in that game is noncanon.
>>529322091two girls who both act slutty but one of them is secretly a virgin
lobby in approximately 1 hour
>>529322291A... Guilty Gear: -STRIVE- lobby?
>>529322091they're missing their lil sis unika (has the highest body count)
>4th of July dev panel
>STILL NO Ranked news or a balance patch
Im here to temper your expectations. Its just going to be Lucy wank
>>52932272350 minutes of damon and baby before remembering to play the lucy trailer
>>529322723They canโt fit any more characters on the console discs so theyโre removing Pot for Lucy
>>529323839Anon there's like 100GB free, this game is tiny
Plus DLC doesn't go on discs anyway
>>529324041Lucy comes with all the data of cyberpunk
>>529324445Is that game worth playing now if I played it, finished it and was sorely disappointed during release
>>529322694>It's 3(every male in her family)
>>529328694you made my cute little post weird, cut it out.
>>529322291hmmm... can't help but NOOTICE the time
>>529322694the only thing missing his unika's sex appeal
>>529322291NAEC STRIVE LOBBY
ALL REGIONS WELCOME
ALL SKILL LEVELS WELCOME
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>>529322694Goldlewisโ property
I don't think I like Guilty Gear bros...
>>529329545>604178>404 - Not Foundwhat will i goon to now?
>>529329897come play the bbtag :)
>>529329545ggs
>20ms 0f scary...
>>529334247GGs mate, I will go punch my bed IRL after that
>>529334368careful not to hit a spring
>>529334831I still can't wrap my head around that jH hitting that deep when the hitbox isn't even egregious
>>529329545ggs lobby
CLOSED
>>529335631venom makeout sesh
>>529335631i didn't know venom was a mayo monkey
>>529338885that's just an alt color. everyone knows venom is the strongest race: filipino.
>>529329545I'm surprised there still isn't a coat zato mod
>>529230703Wtf I thought you were kidding. Imagine playing an old fighting game then not embracing the bullshit? Just play a modern fighting game if this is what you and your circlejerk community decides to do
>>529349051Did this go through or are they just begging to ban the thing they lose to?
>>529349582The entire blazblue playerbase and jiyuna made fun of them and he seems to have given up any hope of pushing the doc further
*sigh* Mirror matches are NOT always even- again, if you read Japanese BBS you'd know. In Japan, difficulty of mirror match is based on how differently you need to play the character during the mirror, and whether you gain or lose your main tools. For example, as a Ragna player, I don't have to adjust my playstyle for the mirror (just space my 5b)- I actually get new tools to use specifically for the match (double berial variation, dp clashing gimmicks, etc). Because of these factors, it's generally accepted here that Ragna has a relatively easy mirror, which acts as a 6-4 matchup when it comes to character ranking. On the other hand, Arakune mirrors cause the player to play a completely different style plus he loses a lot of his options (where's your curse pressure when you're cursed yourself?). Last I read, the Japanese said he has the hardest mirror and ranked it at 3-7 in terms of character ranking, but I haven't checked recently. And then finally, a lot of chars like Bang/Tsubaki/Hakumen have relatively plain mirrors which get 5-5 in terms of character ranking.
https://x.com/ASWesports/status/1939549458393645465?t=SIPggr19b-Qm_EvkbkGGeA&s=19
>>529353291now post the pie tier chart
>>529354132Just post the image nigga no need to link it
>>529353291>which acts as a 6-4 matchup when it comes to character rankingi know this is copypasta but what's the rationale here
a matchup being easy to learn is absolutely not the same as a matchup being balanced
it's really easy to learn that you shouldn't let potemkin grab you but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a winning matchup against your character
>>529354410Why only 3 months?
>>529354410People would say its fake if only the image was posted
>>529354132>>529354410>something actually happenedoh shit
>>529354583because the thing they're being punished for is petty teenager behavior
ASW doesn't seem to be weighing in at all on the more serious allegations, only saying "don't make our tournaments into clown shows"
>>529354839They should have said that sooner. Years ago.
>>529354410Its habbeding. If only they did it before Combo Breaker, that top 8 was AIDS
>>529354410just kill everybody
>>529354570The point isn't "easy to learn that you shouldn't let potemkin grab you" the point is "easy to learn how to prevent potemkin from grabbing you."
>>529356279That's not hard, either. Jump, nigga.
A matchup chart tells you which character is favored to win if both players know the matchup and are of equal skill, not which character needs the least homework to get to that point. While it is true that some mirrors are straightforward to learn and others are not, that's irrelevant to a matchup chart.
Jiyuna, I hope you're proud of yourself and your bait
>>529357282>jump against potemkinlol lmao
>>529357905You still don't get it. The point I'm making is that the Potemkin matchup isn't hard because you need to do homework, it's hard because he turns every interaction into a 50/50 that's heavily weighted in his favor.
I think Axl vs Axl is 7:3
>>529357282This was written back when games weren't "you need to play better to win this matchup" since characters did unique things and being at a disadvantage meant you needed to adapt your play and decision making to account for it instead of just guess the 50/50 correctly more often. Overcoming a disadvantaged matchup involved knowing how to play your character around what the other character was doing, while advantaged matchups were running your standard gameplan and walking over the other character since they can't do anything about it. Your basic oki doesn't work because they have a certain move that fucks it over or a different wakeup time or some hurtbox fuckery? You now have to use suboptimal okizeme to get any advantage off a knockdown. This is WHY the matchup is bad, not just "he have bigger neutral button and does more damage." You'd have a character whose strongest tools simply don't work in matchups and adapting to those disadvantages was 100% part of playing the matchup and something to be talked about.
>>529358734None of this is relevant. In a mirror match both characters have identical options. It's impossible for one to have an advantage over the other. Needing to put in more work to learn how to play your character's mirror optimally doesn't magically mean that it's not an even matchup.
>>529358717Somehow less fun then fighting potemkin
>>529361503Town bike (XX)
>>529359128that is what they said when it was originally posted. They were wrong then and you are wrong now.
>>529361750Am I being trolled
Are you Jiyuna
>>529361503Tranny spic and part of Umishos clique. Wish they could just fuck off I hate all of them
>>529361503Cosplayer who doesn't the play game. Allegedly was raped by RedIAmNot. Part of Umisho's clique.
If you have to work harder to win a matchup, it is a bad matchup, even if it is the same character as yourself. Imagine there is a game with 4 characters. Character A has a good matchup vs character B, an even matchup vs character C, and a bad matchup vs character D. Now, when A fights A, if they have to work harder than they do against character C, is it not a bad matchup? Would you not account for this when rating the character's power? We are not looking at the vacuum of the matchup alone but the overall matchup spread. While both character As have an equal opportunity of winning, when you look at it in the lens of "how many matchups can I encounter where I am forced to work hard" you have both character A and character D to think of. Thinking of only the matchup as an isolated space and not as part of the overall spread to consider when picking a character is the flaw in your logic.
>>529363329>how many matchups can I encounter where I am forced to work hardThat's not the purpose of a matchup chart. A matchup chart shows matchups, not the homework you need to learn the matchup.
If both players are working equally hard then it's an even matchup by definition.
>>529363707you are too obsessed with the idea of "homework" which is not what is important here. It is not about research about but the required adaptation and the mental tax on the player. It is not about knowledge but what actions the player is allowed to take. Matchups where actions are more limited are harder.
"Both players are working equally hard" again this is a limited view. Both players may be working equally hard but from the perspective of one player, how hard are you working in that matchup compared to your other ones? For someone focused entirely on winning, ask yourself "would I rather be in the mirror match or a slightly losing matchup" and you will understand what is being factored in to this. When the players wish to avoid the matchup for actual gameplay reasons and not something as simple as "I do not like playing mirror matches"(a common thing I notice with american players) you will understand why one can consider a mirror match "bad" or "good" for analyzing the characters overall strength.
>>529364279A mirror match being hard just means you need to grind the matchup and learn what to do instead of autopiloting the same gameplan you use in a "normal" match. It's still 5-5.
I wouldn't even say it shouldn't be accounted for in rating character strength. It just doesn't make sense on a matchup chart.
>>529354410You couldn't beat a girl in a video game, so you resorted to blackmail and slander? This community is awful.
>>529365547Which Twitter account did you steal this from
>>529354410>Tiger bannedOne less HC player
>>529354410hey anons im here to sniff up drama can i get a quick rundown on what these four players actually did
>>529366637UMISHO falsely accused RedIAmNot of sexual assault.
Bunny also accused Red but I don't know if her accusations were ever actually disproven.
Tiger_Pop spread malicious rumors about Red being arrested at CB.
Red may or may not have sexually assaulted Bunny.
This particular ban seems to be intended to tell them all to stop embarrassing the scene by airing out their dirty laundry. We'll have to see if the investigation turns up and clear evidence for or against Bunny's accusations being true.
>get falsely accused of a major crime (or at least there's no evidence to prove anything)
>Get banned
???
>>529364682you have to think of this from the perspective at the time. Matchup charts were routinely talked about between top players as a group instead of just being posted on twitter, and the casts were smaller and you could make an actual chart. "tiers" were then built based on the MU spread. When you consider a character's tier placement using this method, if you put every mirror as even, the characters with easy or hard mirror matchups do not have this information presented. By accepting that mirror matchups can be "uneven" when compared to other uneven matchups(rather than just in the context of the mirror match itself) these numbers should be included on a chart rather than left off, to better represent the difficulty of playing a character.
>>529366983But the chart you just posted shows all the mirrors as even.
>>529366978It's the Japanese way.
>>529367229Yes. I am showing how the MU spread and tier placements are related in this method. I don't think a proper MU chart with uneven mirrors taken into account was ever widely spread b ut a lot of information from that time is lost, I simply used what I could find. As was said originally, Ragna's mirror should be considered 60-40, however that is only a change of 10 points and would not put him above litchi unless her mirror was notably bad(which I don't think it was but it has been a long time since I played CS1 and I don't remember litchi's matchups in that game). Arakune having a 3-7 mirror would be moved down. MOST mirrors do end up being even but there are some exceptions. Tager as well has a difficult mirror because of how gadget finger RPS is when used against another Tager where the tager who is negative will win if both tagers try to command grab, which they are both in range to do in that situation.
>>529367668I think this just highlights that matchups alone can't determine tier placements. You also have to take into account other things, like the mirror, how much mental energy it takes to play the character at a high level, and how they perform specifically against characters who are commonly played in tournament (which may or may not be the same as top tiers).
>>529367909>how they perform specifically against characters who are commonly played in tournament i believe third strike had a matchup chart tier list and then a second one that was adjusted by removing the lower characters nobody plays from the ratings of the upper half of the cast, moving some of the high tiers down into mid tier since they lost some good matchup numbers. This is still a matchup-spread based list, just adjusted with weight for higher tier matchups. However I cannot find that specific chart.
>>529365727I remember beefing with him(a chaser) and Kayos(a chud) at the same time once, funny how that works out
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Do you think that when this game gets abandoned by ASW people will just start to play mods and the standard Will become that?
With the way things are now i don't doubt they'll just release Lucy and ranked and bail out with no balance patch, and with mods that add gatlings back or even give characters new or old moves It would be cool to ser a scene develop for these mods similar to How there's a small scene for those SF2 hacks
>>529373679no
people don't want gameplay mods. They've been around and people have not been pushing to adopt them. I've seen this time and time before. People saw what happened with brawl and wanted that for themselves but it never took off the same way. People tried to make modded soku a thing, it didn't work. People tried to make modded granblue(both vanilla and rising) and it didn't take off. There's been mods for strive for a long time and nobody goes to them. People tried to mod type lumina into being current code but shitty and that lasted for like, 3 weeks before people realized it was stupid.
the fact that mori just retweeting the announcement of the showcase making everyone lose their shit about a new blazblue is exactly why there will not be a new blazblue. Nobody can do it the way mori does it. The best they can hope for is something like entropy effect where they asset dump in a fun and cool way.
>>529373679nah, mods are mostly just for the novelty of what could have been and for fun. most people won't even try them because they're not official
>>529354410>3 monthswe all know damn well that it would do more damage to the brand to ACTUALLY do their jobs and ban those scumbags, what an absolute circus
>Strive is on sale for 20 bucks
Should I buy it? I know nothing about GG aside from the fanarts but I want to get back into fighting games
>>529375823yeah, i'd say it's worth that much
>>529374703>Nobody can do it the way mori does it.True. Dark War can attest to that, it's Mori's way or no way at all!
>>52937582320 is about right, yeah
lordknight doesn't play the baiken mirror because he doesn't understand other baiken players decision making
he also says that baiken is gap and finesse
he also doesn't understand why people hate fighting her
nigga we hate fighting her for the same reason you don't play the mirror you retarded faggot
no one likes baiken retards forcing RPS constantly without any regard for risk/reward
fuck you and fuck your character and its scrubby as fuck playerbase
>>529349051>uphold competitive integrity>bans a characterDoesnt make any fucking sense. If you value competitive integrity, you should let broken shit rock. Accept the game is bullshit, the mahvel nogs dont care if its a Magneto Storm Sentinel mirror, or a ZMC mirror. Just goes to show these rollback era BB players are frauds.
>>529354410What a nothingburger
ArcSys should've sentenced all these troons to the electric chair
>another day passes with no information about ranked
>>529354410>didnโt remove the combo breaker points lmao
>>529373679nope you all are stuck with this terrible game and lucy. at least they're finally adding ranked mode.
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>>529373679but base roster chars like Leo, Nago, Sol and Ky haven't even recieved their new moves, why would arcsys back down on their word?
>>529381125what a waste of a character design. completely sauceless gameplay.
>>529373679habibi the only thing strive had going for was functioning when no other game did, when this game is abandoned by arcsys it'll be abandoned by everyone else too
>>529382878she is pretty fun and one of the few chars that takes real skill and no gimmick bullshit
>>529383381eh no, for gg character she is incredibly basic and wouldn't even fit in previous games.
is there anything in strive more disrespectful than making faust's items to3 items?
>>529381125Whats the lore on her dog
>>529384204arcsys hasn't thought of that yet.
>>529382878>>529383474>W-where's the 2nd meter?!>w-why can't she use the dog like zato/Zappa(actual stupid complaint seen)>she just has a stepdash(one of the only GG character's with one), speed, damage and no other gameplay gimmicks?! This sucks!Shut up bitch.
>>529354410>red banned for telling a tranny NO I will NOT be your theysexfriend>umisho and bunny banned for false accusations, lying about serious crimes, wasting police resources and conspiracy>tiger banned for being a lying instigating nigger>all the qrts and replies to the tweet are just trans and rainbow flags going "buh huh, what did tiger and umisho even do??? reporting abusers like red is bannable now????"This community is trash man, if you arent going to actually play at least keep up on the fucking drama, fuck the twitter "community" man
No surprise at all that all the lgbt+ think that umisho, tiger and bunny being manipulative pieces of shit is completely normal
https://www.twitch.tv/mugiggst
>>529387439>3 pots in top 8Good lord
>be xturd player
>laggy nigger niggerfang appears
>win anyway because netplay leo has some of the easiest counterplay in the game
>he switches to raven
do I uninstall xrd?
>>529390073We don't play that crap here.
>>529366849i dont know why umisho's ban isn't permanent everywhere,i know arcsys probably doesn't want to upset the people who buy too much bridget merch but umisho being around anyone is just going to cause drama
Is it me, or does Ishiwatari seems to be salty that GG/ASW got popular/big?
>>529394074so you and your 4 friends can play it?
>>529392841ok smart guy you come up with a solution that involves integrity and equality without running out of players in the scene because a sizable chunk of pro players are a part of this creepy tranny clique and not terrifying the hordes of bridgetoids that don't even play this piece of shit game but love cheering for the trannies, Arcsys painted itself into a corner with its negligence and will now pretend like the problem doesn't exist
GOOGLE DOCY
https://x.com/totsubunger/status/1912942303938826515
>>529395364>who the fuck is this>check the account>bio says they're a minor>also posted thisEnough.
is there anything to do vs asuka round start aside from block? every normal loses to cube or explosion, backdash loses to cube, IAD loses to cube and explosion
>>529396315dash block maybe. backdash into some disjoint
>>529396315>blue cube5P or 5K into special cancel
>doesn't work on my character6P into special cancel
>screamerlol
lmao
>>529395364>May player>racistI'm nooticing...
>>529397160>screamerwhat does that mean
>>529398064>why do you know the spell namesI know screamer because it doesn't have an agreed on nickname and it's an uncontestable god button
>>529395364>screenshots leaked of me saying nigger at age 14>no one even noticed the leak>so naturally my first course of action was to kill myselfZoomers are so fucking cooked.
>>529398282yes that is what I meant by explosion.
>>529398282>t's an uncontestable god buttonUm ackthually, the twitter mob decided it's a move that makes Oscar worse simply by existing, it's that bad.
>Players got banned
>they play respectively Leo, Sin, HC and Goldlewis
I'm convinced the idea of real "low tier gods" exists because sure enough the biggest scums playing this game are all top tier whores.
>>529406289No one who's serious about winning tournaments will play a low tier in any game.
>>529406289>"low gier gods"
>>529406465Character loyalist still is a thing in every game.
Hayao made top4 if third strike last year with a borderline unplayable character.
I mean one of them could have played Faust or Millia but they all play top6 characters.
>>529407349>Character loyalist still is a thing in every game.and they don't win
>>529382362this is the only reason i think there will be a season 5. but it would be funny if they dump them all during the lucy update and dip like the mk1 devs
>>529407797Jiro got plenty of 2nd and 3rd places as pre season 4 Anji
iDom did it with Manon
Snake Eyez won a lot in SF4 with a Zangief
>>529408742>2nd and 3rdnot winning
>Snake Eyez won a lot in SF4 with a Zangiefhe gapped
Sol and Ky get new versions of their old DP followups. These are RC-able on hit allowing them to get combos off of wakeup DPs again. Because fuck you.
Leo gets an air special. It is NOT his old restand. It does NOT go into stance. It has questionable use.
Nago gets a baiken parry that he can only use in blood explosion.
enjoy.
>>529408885iDom won like 2 majors with Manon tho
Also
>Grappler>Gapping>EverLol
Jiro gets worse tournament placements that better Anji gets
>>529408964>>Grappler>>Gappingyes?
>>529408990The guy breathes underdog energy, he actually NEEDS his main to be shit
>>529408954Zato gets nothing as usual.
>Nago gets a baiken parry that he can only use in blood explosion.I thought abought Nago with a guard cancel and it didn't think it was a bad idea.
>>529409726>Zato gets nothing as usual.who?
>>529408954Leo should get his projectile recovery reduced and made air ok, or give him another projectile/michael sword type attack thatโs [6]4S/H for space control.
are you enjoying the final season?
>>529408742>>529408964Chakotay won some with T.Hawk's kid and Rangchu's panda win in t7 is famous
Charged fuujin's spin frames should extend up until the active frames
They should give Anji all his guard points back
>>529411128>Reversal fuujin with a reversal followupMaaaybe not
>>529410135bedman is fun right now
They should give Anji his old 6S instead of his current f.S
>Tune in on the german grubble tourney
>Actual female on the mic
>Just casually calls the midget man a genetic failure too
Why can't we have good commentators on Strive
>>529411446She called Anre a genetic failure or a player?
>>529412351if you don't train your daughters, Giovanna will.
>>529406465Jack-O won EVO bro
>>529414272Jack-O has always been strong
Ky will get some type of pressure tool/reset thing that applies shock state and is good in combos
Zato will get a move that doesn't require eddie gauge
Leo will get something that vacuums and leads into backturn
>>529414272Jack-O has never been worse than upper-mid tier.
>>529414881No one wants to play an upper-mid tier technical character in a game where you can play Leo.
>>529415061are you forgetting zato dominance?
or when HC's gameplay revolved around a 1f link?
seems like cope me thinks
>>529395364unironically if he didn't try to kill him / xerself, none of these strivers in the replies would have any pity for him
>>529415187>are you forgetting zato dominance?zato was actually good
>or when HC's gameplay revolved around a 1f link?HC was top 1 for like 2 years
jack-o was never top 5, she was just good
>>529415187Zato was broken tier
>>529415378If she was good, people would pick her up.
Mind you, the only pro that uses her, uses her as a side character because of how many lopsided matchups she has out of her favor-- Except oh no, he dropped her to play an actually good character like Leo.
>>529417373Carl and Rachel in BBCF are both broken yet nobody play them because they are boring and gay
>>529417373>If she was good, people would pick her up.But there are characters who are even better and also easier to play.
>>529418302>betterjacko won evo
had a half day because it's canada day tomorrow
I'm gonna strive my mfin' heart out
finna walk back round start
>playing vs venom
>first round
>5 interactions
>still alive
>win
>next 2 sets
>sitting full screen zoning with balls
what a shitty design lmfao
i saw a post that said aba isn't an acronym, but a numbering system for test subjects. starting with aaa - aab - aac etc. so aba is number 27 or something like that. it was cute.
tokon doesn't have the retarded hit stun that strive has and actually has good air dashes (like the strive beta) arcsys is learning.
>>529428120Mori designed her and knowing him, there's a good chance he was just mashing the keyboard
>>529430421source for these claims sirrah?
>>529430621watching the youtube video and doing something known as frame counting. try it out.
idk how to fight millia as dizzy
feels like if she gets a single hit it's fucking over
>>529430421>the retarded hit stun that strive haswhat?
>>529427150>losing to a venom 2-1Get your shit together, man, that fight is easy.
>>529409726He already has a huge healthbar and a metered reversal, more defensive options not needed
>>529431361first or second games on gimme a break
>>529432167make it cost blood. now it's balanced.
>>529431029just like how the strive beta looked exactly like the release
They should make bookmark Full Order startup invul so at he can at the very very least Super PRC
I got 3-0d by a venom the other day and turned the game off in shame right after
>>529433284That happened to me but with Dizzy. I had come back to the game for months at that point but had not ran into a Dizzy in Celestial until then. I got blown the fuck out
>>529433056yeah, lil bro i can only judge the game based on what i've seen. retard.
>>529433056are you hoping.. the movement is nerfed just so you can dash someone's dreams of tokon having good movement?
>>529417439Carl is boring and gay but Rachel is just too hard for most people. Rachel has one of the best designs and character in fighting games.
>>529434035yes, all tagslop deserves to burn in the fires of hell
>>529432167but would it really be that bad though?
>>529439989i need i-no to spit on me and call me scum
then millia to step on me and call me garbage
and finally baiken to glare at me and tell me to die!
>>529432274How about you wake up and smell the game instead, now go find the venom and run it back.