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>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #69 (1.8.1) - Patch Notes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/520842750961124013?l=english

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Why can't arbites get more cool penance cosmetics and commissary stuff?

>>529123621
because pay us bozo
>“Cosmetic pricing is always a balancing act,” Delrue said. “As a live service game we want to be able to keep working on the game while respecting what players feel is fair value. We appreciate when these topics are brought up, these conversations help us better understand what the community values and helps inform how we approach cosmetics going forward.”

>>529123621
Abhumans. The slanty-eyed, yet long hook nosed ones.

>>529123621
reminder even the bootlicker on the forum pointed that the universal cosmetics like the cybereye not being available for the arbites is a dick move

>>529123621
Because how will they try to force you to pay them even more money in time???

If you pay for it. Then you have your answer.

>>529123712
Then why even have the commissary in the first place then? They added that shit like 2 years ago and they haven't updated it since it launched.

>>529124039
it's to pretend

>>529123179 (OP)
What the FUCK is this mod

>>check mission board to play
>auric difficulty selected
>no auric maelstrom missions at all in my rotation
>only special eventmission shit I don't care about
>playing quickplay has a 50% chance to put you into a story mission which are intentionally piss easy, with less enemies because it's meant to be the canon version of events for the game's story
>the campaign is quite literally pointless anyway because it is 95% same as before with only minor voice lines added in few missions and in
>the retarded, pointless difficulty progression change which in the end doesn't change or mitigate the "shitter's playing difficulty which they have no place to be in" issue at all and only makes leveling up characters more tideous and boring
>this was supposed to be Fatshark's idea of "fixing" the mission board
Awful, just fucking awful.

Alright gang; someone tell me about the Old Ones. Who are these mystery niggaz? What do we know about them? What happened to them and where are they now?

i'd pay for really ugly, disgusting skins that my team has to look at and i don't

>>529124495
first born specie. Reached such a powerful state they were purely psychic beings tapping into the warp (a calm ocean). Seeded life in the galaxy. One day the necrontyrs, one of their creation, waged war against them and after many many problems the peaceful warp turned into the fucking mess it is today with the chaos gods. Old Ones got murked by the chaos gods and the necrontyrs turned necrons.

>>529124362
It's called Adobe Photoshop

>>529124471
there is always a maelstrom up, you just have to switch away from auric and back again, learned that yesterday also wondering where the maelstrom is t. fatshark seal of quality

>>529124362
Dookane said I'd get extra rashuns if I wore this uniform sah

why in the hell did she do it?

>russian
>dogless tac axe arbites
>rushes ahead
>goes down
>leaves
Jfc these retards

>>529125136
Ok, that fixed the maelstrom issue but yeah absolutely retarded.

>>529126049
>proceeds to build a heckin EPIC executioner's stance + marksman's focus vet
>dies to a single poxwalker
OH MY GOD! THIS GAME IS BUGGED! I DIDN'T EVEN SEE HIM! PFFFFTTRRT.

>>529126317
>arbeetus is just the new knife zigger

Devil's Claw is just a worse version of the Heavy Sword which itself is just a worse version of the Relic Blade.

>>529125779
Is that Colin's vtubesona?

What if Grendyl, Sefoni and Swagger are tzeentches?

>>529127070
very interesting picture

>>529124495
The Old Ones were probably the closest thing 40k had to a primordial ‘creator’ race alongside the C’tan and, depending on how you much want to buy into theories and vague lore bits, other stuff like warp entities that dwell in the ‘basement’ of the universe. We really don’t know much about them at all, not even what they really look like, but they’re traditionally thought of and portrayed some as some kind of reptilian race, which is a leftover trademark from their WHF counterparts, but it’s possible they were some kind of weird amalgamated mass of alien civilizations who were both really advanced and psychically potent and didn’t have one set appearance. At the very least, they were the top dogs of the Milky Way alongside the Necrontyr, but definitely the superior of the two until the C’tan came into the picture and helped them. We don’t know much about them, but what we do know paints a very clear picture of how formidable they were. Not only was their technology absurdly advanced, they were also the most potent psykers to date which was bad news for the Necrontyr who had little conception of the Warp at the time. We know they created the Webway, an absolutely massive sprawling sentient inter-dimensional labyrinth megastructure of sorts that can house entire solar systems within it with ease, including Commoragh, which itself is stupidly huge and home to billions/trillions of Drukhari. Also, the language they spoke was quite literally able to make reality itself their bitch.
>All but hidden beneath the surface of the presence which all sentient life projects into the Warp, there is a certain kind of sound which can be spoken as incantation. In the Halo Stars it is called the 'tongue of creation', on Artadane the 'voice of god', and on Drussen the 'language of unmaking'. The perfidious Eldar are said to know it and fear it as it is the 'vernacular of the Old Ones'.

>>529124495
>>529127271
>Only a few words of the Axiom are known, for to attempt to reconstruct the entire lexicon is strictly forbidden and would be beyond the combined capabilities of every data-scribe. When spoken aloud, in no more than a whisper, a practitioner can bend the fabric of reality and send shockwaves through the Immaterium. However, even an infinitesimally small slip of the tongue, or mistaken raising of the voice in anger can break reality and the speaker both, and each time such sounds are spoken they change in meaning.
That’s right, even just their very language is a super weapon that other races, including the God Emperor, covet and fear and actively seek out.
Then of course we know that they were responsible for the creation of the Krorks and Aeldari, the latter of which by and large ruled over the galaxy for dozens of millions of years completely free of any kind of threat or worry and the former of which, in a less evolved state, nearly managed to competely destroy the Imperium. And these guys were the equivalent of their foot soldiers pretty much, literally created on a whim to help fight against the Necrons.
Keep in mind, even *with* the C’tan, they fought evenly against the Necrons for some ~5 million years, and we don’t even know the exact details of how they lost, their defeat may well have been more attributed to the Warp horrors they inadvertently created rather than the Necrons themselves, and according to some sources you could spin it as a pyrrhic victory, since the races they engineered have gone on to rule the galaxy and the Necrons were forced into a millions of years long slumber after they betrayed the C'Tan because they couldn't defeat them after. Also they created a bunch of other minor races and even helped push along the evolution of humanity. Some people think they also created the Tyranids but that’s just a theory.

>>529124495
>>529127271
>>529127413
In fairness to the ‘crons, the fact that the Necrontyr weren’t just whisked away by them outright just goes to show you how big the collective penises of the entire race was. They also inadvertently helped ‘create’ (in as loose a sense as you can think of the word) the Chaos Gods due to all their dicking around in the Warp, for whatever that’s worth.

>>529125136
>>529126528
Explain.
Even setting it to damnation, exiting out of the menu, then going back in and setting it to auric does not work.

>>529124773
>>529127271
>>529127413
>>529127509
these guys versus our 4 retards who’s winning???

>>529127667
The rejects if you explude the psyker

>>529127631
Well, it got fixed for me after I ran a mission. But that could've just sort of "reset" the mission board.

I guess the mission board really is fucked currently.

>>529127631
>still no maelstrom for 10 fucking minutes
>check plebbit
>apparently multiple other people are experiencing the same issue
>no word from faggot shitfart
I literally cannot play the game I want to play. What the actual fuck?

>>529127631
strange always worked for me so far when not seeing a maelstrom
ALSO our lovely heretic has something to say!
>pic related
the text really doesnt do the Loner VA justice, especially the "hmmms?" great VA work

heyy guys i'm stupid arbiter *poops and shids* no ammo for anyone else i gotta pick it all up to shoot bruiserrs!!!! *cums on the floor* i'm a selfish asshole!!!

>>529128139
>calling out the cop for having daddy issues
Lmao, based

>>529127094
Yeah, the blue bird egyptian demon aesthetic just is really peak, haha.

>>529128308
He's not wrong though, most Schola Progenium recruits are orphans or dumped there early in life so they lack proper parental figures beyond their drill abbots

>>529125779
Don't ask about her dark past...

>>529127667
Rejects with a shield-ogryn can beat a daemonhost. A daemonhost can beat a Warlord-class Battle Titan. A Warlord-class Battle Titan can eradicate an army of Space Marines. Therefor, Rejects with an adequate builds and group composition are more powerful than Space Marines.

Game is fucking laggy

Should I upgrade to chainsword or keep maul while progressing damnation?
Also weren't there grimoires in DT?

>>529129023
Yeah.
Pffsh.
Nothing personnel, kid.

>>529129269
If you're leveling your weapons normally, use the chainsword now. It's a painfully mid weapon in the higher difficulties.
Yes, there are grimoires in some missions. It'll say it as a side objective, and the books themselves will be hidden away (but you can find them by the green glow)

>>529129269
don't bother with a particular weapon, as you play and sacrifice this weapon family (like maul) will xp and you will gain "mastery". Once it's full you can get a bunch of greys, select the one with a "dump stat" (max 60% while the rest are at 80%) and upgrade it to max

>>529129269
The chainsword is complete trash
Literally the worst weapon in the game

>>529129376
fr fr no cap chainsword ain't got no rizz bruh only in ohio :skull:

>>529129396
Sacrificing and spamming armory for good rolls isn't exactly economically feasible for a newfag who has literally no resources whatsoever and struggles to even upgrade the weapon they want to use.

>>529129441
>Literally the worst weapon in the game
That's ogryn power maul and shredder pistol.

>>529129441
>worst weapon
That's the chainaxe.

>>529129506
The ogryn power maul is still in the hands on an ogryn
The shredder pistol is a different category of weapon
>>529129525
Not even close

>>529129525
retard

>>529129595
>>529129569
Then why do only ASS shitters use it? And why do I constantly have to pick them up?

>>529128139
My favourite is the praisal line something like "Oh, the oppressor is good at killing things that can fight back, too!"

>>529129689
I don't like it, but it's a hell of a lot better than the assault chainsword

vigilant autogun is the worst

i got the 30 on arb and don't even know if there's keybindings to order the dog to do anything
nice bot class darkchuds

>>529127271
sexy space snake god men…

>>529129689
retard

Darkietide should have steam market for its cosmetics, just like tf2.

>>529127271
Is this meant to suggest that Sslyth are degenerated Old Ones?

>>529124039
It gives you the illusion of choice meanwhile earning 1million+ shekels for 1 armour set takes you a lot of grind.
They expect you to buy shit from the premium shop with real money in an impulse spend to bypass that grind.

The reason Arbites doesn't have a section is because they already earned your money through admission so they don't need to bother.

chainsword is the best weapon because its cool

Would I have fun in darktide if Im a loser and have no friends to play with?

Been playing around with my own build I was playing Havoc and Auric on.
Also been looking at what other Arbite players have been using on Havoc and Auric.

Tried to make a... generalized sort of build combining all of them.
What do you think? Too much defense? I feel like I definitely don't have enough damage. I wanted Justified Measures and Monstrosity Hunter, but couldn't get them.

>>529130501
yeah
it's more like a single player game you play with other retards also there than a cooperative game

>>529123179 (OP)
I look like that and dress like that.

>>529130178
Sslyth are speculated to be closer to the Laer, a reptilian race of Slaanesh worshippers that indirectly corrupted the Emperor's Children, mostly based on how Fulgrim became a 4 armed snake-like Daemon Prince.

>auric maelstrom
>boss spawns
>slavgroid shitstain panic spams grenades, explodes a barrel, and throws all three of these retards into hanging off a cliff
>all three disconnect before I can even attempt to kill the boss and pick them back up
>three more tourists join
>one runs into a daemonhost and goes down before it can fully aggro
>another tries to res, aggroing the daemonhost to eat the first guy, who ragequits before he can get eaten, so it eats the second guy
>second guy also ragequits
>2 more guys join and we comfortably make it through the mission despite all the previous bullshit
What are these "people" doing in my auric maelstroms?

>>529130872
you have encountered the fatshark playerbase paradox
the higher the difficulty, the less intelligent the players

>>529129525
chainaxe is about 10000 times better than chainsword

>>529129569
shredder used to be good on vet like...2 years ago? just before the skill tree upgrade, whenever that was

>>529130872
auric is shitter baby difficulty
all the good players are in havoc

>>529126925
devil's claw has an extremely powerful gimmick special though

bros im loving grail knight. bret longsword and bret sword/shield are so fucking comfy

I used chainsword on an arbite yesterday and it was great with all that cleave

>>529130505
funny, I went the opposite with castigator and left for my havoc build, I just spam castigator for when I feel Im going to get gunned down

for aurics it doesnt really matter, literally any build with the arby will work

>>529130501
Playing and carrying retard pubbies is part of the difficulty

>>529130505
fucking retard never post your dogshit builds again]

>>529127271
don’t forget they were also able to counteract the necron’s time fuckery technology, one of which threatened to destroy all of space time or something if it was misused. just goes to show how all the races in the galaxy are sad shadows of themselves but none more so than current necrons who only have like 1 percent of their race currently awake.

Jeets gatekeeping a ranked mode is part of the experience

>>529130995
You should see the zealots I get in h40.

>>529126925
>Devil's Claw
I honestly don't know what people see in it, it feels like I'm hitting enemies with a cardboard sword wrapped in tinfoil because the damage is so low it takes 3-4 swings just to kill a basic-ass poxwalker, and no, I don't consider the parry attack viable enough to make up for it. A fucking knife out-damages it.

>havoc filled with diabetes
>no one playing smoke grenade anymore
>become way harder

>>529131150
It's pretty much the same as Chocob build but with dog instead.

>>529131150
retard

Actually, for Kruber, what's the difference between the "Bretonnian Sword and Shield" and the "Sword and Shield"?

>>529131367
one is good, the other one is not

Is Castigators Stance mostly for ranged builds?

>>529131150
Kill yourself

>>529131483
No, it's your oh shit button to hit when you need to not die in the next 10 seconds
The reload node having an internal cd is a bit of a meme

>>529131483
It's good on ANY build, it's literally the "Fuck you, I'm going ballistic now and you can't stop me" ability.
Also the point tax to get the refilling mag node isn't worth it, especially since it has a cooldown so your mag isn't actually bottomless while killing stuff.

>>529130505
>What do you think?
No point in taking the dog if you don't take at least some +% dog damage. You skipped the +50% in break the line. It's a single point for what should have 100% uptime when it actually matters.
Suppression force (staggered damage reduction) feels pointless to me, so you can easily move that point into dog damage.
>I feel like I definitely don't have enough damage
How the fuck do you not have enough damage when this arguably takes more damage nodes than the build I'm using? Are you using meme weapons? Do you not dog boom with bleed boltgun/pistol?

>>529131643
>dog boom with bleed boltgun/pistol?
...elaborate

>>529131712
Remote det is a DoT that can trigger puncture on each tick, which in turn puts max bleed stacks on the target.
Remote det staggers the target, meaning it can benefit from bolt pistol's execution blessing.
Send your dog into a pack, hold your boltgun, explode, and anything lighter than maulers just dies.
I believe the shield maul damage vs electrocuted and rending vs staggered blessings also work against armor if you swap to them after ticking up the bleed. Unsure and doubtful about the melee rending in the bottom right.

>>529130505
Good but I think you're definitely exaggerating wit hthe top nodes. Could take off at least one or two of those (dog regen or shield plates, the rest are way too good to skip)
The -20% damage on staggered enemies is NOT worth the point. It's ONLY valuable on Monstrosities, and IF you hit their weakpoints over and over, and they already don't deal much damage, and if they are, then that just means you should really be blocking a lot more, plus True Grit should already cover any especially hurtful attacks anyway.
I think you'd really benefit from putting a point into a dog keystone, or at least the +50% from your ability. Maybe spending some points to get those extra crits or extra dodge could also be good

>>529131854
I see, thanks, will test it later

>>529131643
Bleed pistol dog detonation feels a bit underwhelming for how much you need to invest into it to get it working
Multiple points into dog nodes as well as your ranged choice and blessing just to do what a grenade does while being clunkier since you need to rely on dog AI as well as holding your gun out while the dog electric dots tick

>>529131231
it oneshots poxwalkers with lights while rampage is up and with it's very fast perfectly horizontal heavy even when it's not thoughever

>>529131243
>>no one playing smoke grenade anymore
okay, I WILL join your havocs, smoke nades on the team or on the gunner position?

>>529131243
>no one playing smoke grenade anymore
when did anyone ever play smoke grenade? you'd get accused of trolling and kicked out. If you want protection from gunners get Psyker bubble

>>529132103
What you're saying is only partially true. For all of the cleave and damage the bottom right keystone gives, the left one lets me bash heretics to the ground approximately 33% more often, while giving humongous monstrosity damage, and wall hacks. It also gives a fuckload of dog damage. And if you aren't running break the line, the extra cooldown rate is arguably even more useful since the other abilities have much longer cooldowns.
I find the section of the tree between the blitzes and auras to be extremely underwhelming, and voltaic mandibles + canine morale are the only relevant dog talents, while simultaneously being the best ones in that section of the tree. Shout outs to the ammo node, and concussive though. Both of those are extremely good at what they do.
The amount of investment is ultimately minimal.
>ranged choice and a blessing
Bleed absolutely obliterates bosses, boltgun and bolt pistol are both extremely good weapons for different reasons. It's a cost, but the opportunity cost is honestly very, very cheap.
>while being clunkier since you need to rely on dog AI
This is the biggest concern, it takes like a second or two of setup when the dog is off doing god knows what, that you sometimes can only barely afford. I've gotten used to it, it doesn't bother me anymore.
>as well as holding your gun out while the dog electric dots tick
This is only relevant when you're pinned in some terrible position and need to keep meleeing or blocking, but chances are, you're using the dog explosion here to buy yourself some space, so you can immediately use that space to just hold your gun and passively kill everything around you.

>>529132295
Both.

anyone dislikes the smite blitz for psykers?
It's not bad, crowd stuns are good
it's just that whenever I fucking use it the rest of the team just proceeds to fluoride stare at them thinking the smite will kill them

>>529131086
Does Chord have any stagger at all with all of those Arbites impact upgrades?

>>529131231
i hecking love parryslop

>>529132779
Smite is powerful, and highly situational. You should use it mostly to protect someone doing an objective, or to stun massive hordes of armor spam when your retards don't have enough damage to kill them fast. Overusing it is not only bad etiquette because it's pretty unfun, but also bad because you could be doing much more damage with a staff.
Also use it with empowered psionics if you want it to deal any relevant amount of damage.

>>529132779
I am purposefully running away from you because you ruin the game and make it not fun. I am hoping those mobs KILL you after you hit max peril, of course I'm not going to kill them.

>>529131251
>>529131564
>>529131312
It's a shit fucking build that takes way too many overlapping and unnecessary nodes. Fucking retards, no wonder chocob eats shit during every stream and is only able to play well in his videos.

>>529133138
No talking
Kill yourself, fucking bitch

>>529133138
>redundancy is bad
have fun getting crushed by several hundred atmospheres of water stockton rush

>>529133138
>he didn't realize that the top cluster of the tree is the most powerful one
retard

the talent trees are too complicated for me give back vermintide style talents

>>529133138
>chocob eats shit during every stream
Most Havoc 40 games end in defeat. It is how it is designed to be. You don't know this because you pretend to be a high skill player but you fold in snorics

>>529133350
this but unironically

Can't imagine how fucking sad and pathetic your life has to be to watch vtubers and simp for them on 4chan of all places.

>>529132927
>>529132983
>Overusing it is not only bad etiquette because it's pretty unfun
how so?
I don't understand how it's unfun

Playtesters and Youtubers all know and only play with each other.
Remember this when one of them tries to tell you to watch how easy Havoc is when you do or build XYZ, while ignoring that they comm and coordinate to cover each and every one of each other's weaknesses, which is not the average player's experience, even the average Havoc player's. They push each other's game balance agenda.

>>529133774
If I wanted to hit a bunch of enemies who will never hit me back no matter how retarded I am I'd just spend all day in the psykhanium

i dont like heavy attacks. i want this stupid meta to end already its been three fucking years since this game came out

>>529133774
People like fighting enemies, even Arbites with a butt ton of stagger can't truly stop every enemy from fighting back. Smite and Infernus staff can entirely trivialize a game

>>529132927
>>529133774
>>529133870
>>529133928
Yeah, I'm definitely making a Smigger build right now.

>>529133793
I accidentally clicked on a milkandcummies video about the Arbitrator and in the first 10 seconds he was using callouts like it was a CSGO tournament kek. That guy is such a fucking loser

>>529132983
Did you forget to eat your meds today, princess?

>>529134276
Very compelling written downvote

>play mob clearing
>no one can kill monster
>play monster killing
>no one bother clearing mob

holy fuck bros the shotpistol is so bad

>>529134818
>shotpistol
Are you talking about the Arbites shield+gun or the bolt pistol?

>>529133891
play arby with shield mkvi

never heavy attack ever again in your life

>>529133870
>>529133928
I see, sort of like the gas can in tf2's MvM mode? Where it trivalizes the game to the point of being looked down upon

>>529133793
>>529134239
It's kinda grim when you realize the only knowledgeable (for what he did, which was meta playing) darktide youtuber was tranner

I feel like I am literally the only one using Lone Wolf. Is it considered bad? Because it feels pretty strong (having 5 recharging impact grenades is insane in my opinion) and also as a bonus i save talent points i dont have to spend on dog-related talents. I haven't used it in Havoc yet thoughever.

>>529135150
nope, he just has a clique with knowledge. Tranner exemself is a fucking idiot

>>529135314
well but at least he didnt promote dogshit builds pretending they were well thought and great like milk and cummies does, when he's not clickbaiting with fake TW releases

damn I fucking hate that guy

>>529135294
I haven't tried the impacts outside of getting its penance done pretty early while leveling are
How do they do against elites? Are they worth giving up smigger mines on the same recharge cd

>>529134652
Eviscerator and branx does both

>>529135294
Haven't unlocked Havoc on Arbitrator yet, but its pretty damn good in Damnation. Having a regenerating horde stun is way too good to pass up and every other Arbitrator you play with has a dog with them anyway.

>>529134652
All builds that want to be considered good, should be able to clear hordes, kill armor, and kill bosses. Assume your teammates will always fail at all three.

Should I get 2500 aquilas for 8.58€

>>529135484
He literally did promote bad builds

>missing 3 voice lines for mortis cheevo
>mortis trials doesnt give you the voice lines you are missing but random ones
yeeeeeeeeep nice game mode fatshark

>>529135774
you VILL sleep through snoretis trials penancepiggy

Played ogryn for the first time since the talent rework today, man he is cartoonishly OP now

The matchmaking breaking again? just had to do a duo with these fuck awful bots, is there a reason they haven't imported the VT2 bots yet?

>>529135294
It's not bad at all, it's mainly up to whether you feel the trade-offs to losing the dog is worth it.

>>529135537
Impacts do pretty severe damage from what I've gathered, at least against non-carapace stuff. Try testing it out in the meat grinder, I think they almost oneshot Reapers.

>>529136274
>is there a reason they haven't imported the VT2 bots yet?
Yes, I'd stop playing with randos because bots with customizable builds would massively outperform them

>>529135741
279 aq/€ - 500aq - 1.79€
291 aq/€ - 2500aq - 8.58€ < Imperial edition
292 aq/€ - 2100aq - 7.19€
317 aq/€ - 7000aq - 22.04€
Math says I don't know

>>529136523
quoted the wrong post buddy, but yeah I'd honestly take the AI alone without even the builds just so they can hold their own against a hord of chaff with one trapper mixed in.

>>529136743
Bots will at least stick close and take care of hordes, while I literally just came from a game with brain fogged sub-animals who would neither protect me doing the stupid data interrogator puzzle, nor respond to what felt like a minute straight of pinging the objective, because they were too busy having truly EPIC fights with 3 poxwalkers.

This penance is annoying af. I've done 45 missions with the arbites now and used execution order as long as was possible

>>529137119
>another daily complaint about having to use the best keystone
Oh boo hoo.

What can I drop to get 50% Cleave? I'm leaning toward the 5% per second toughness from dog. But there have been times where I'm all alone and it's kept me alive to an insane degree...

what's the weapon to compliment bolter in arbites boss killing build?
I thought crusher but when I switched to it from arbites maul it's damage against carapace is super underwhelming.
Is buffed shock maul better?
Surely every game will have 1-2 extra arbites that run skullcrusher and I can safely use arbites maul for horde clear, but eventually the hype will die

any suggestions what weapons to take to do these?
I've been trying to use the inferno staff due to how easily it cleares chaff, but fuck is it boring to use

>>529137223
>best
Retard you can complete all content this game has to offer with any build. I don't care what kind of crutches you need, I'd like to be done with it so I can try the other stuff.

>>529134652
I always just assume my team will be useless at everything and I will have to do everything. So I always make sure to build for everything. Usually I get;
>Melee for killing mixed hordes
>Gun for killing ranged or for killing armor / bosses
>Special attacks on either weapon or from skills to pick up the slack in either area

>>529137403
>I have severe, crippling autism and must do the penances in an extremely specific order, otherwise I have a mental breakdown

>>529136274
Ogryn is the best class, but I don't think he's that far above Psyker, Zealot and Arbites. Every character is OP if you run their best build. Ogryn is powerful with every single build he has, because his tree is a lot more up-to-date on their design standards, instead of like 75% of it being filled with tax nodes and troll talents, as it is with 3 of the 5 classes

>>529137508
Projecting your own issues doesn't help your case.

>>529135294
I like the versatility of dog. It can get dogs off me if I somehow fuck up. Stun bosses. Completely take out one enemy randomly. Will stun and knock back mutants or bursters. Having it near me gives me passive toughness regen. Shock will stun anything it attacks.
Overall I think the dog is a seriously amazing companion to have. It's saved my life more times than I can count already.

>>529137256
skip these and take the speed and cleave talent

>>529137390
If you don't like inferno staff, use voidblast instead (or whatever the fuck ground pound is called now). You can run it with rending shockwave and armor perks to reliably kill anything short of monstrosities, in which case you had best hope your retards don't panic, scatter and wipe when one shows up.

>>529137705
The Dog talent not worth it? The 50% damage is up permanently.

>>529137846
Still shit

bolt pistol arbite is pure dredd

>>529137883
Alright, thanks I'll give it a shot.

>>529137661
Not sure what else to say other than to call you a fucking retard. I only have execution order and 100 games left to do, because I left execution order for last since it will obviously take the longest. And it will still be finished before I have the 100 games on the class.
Stop being fucking autistic and just do the others first if this one bores you, instead of complaining like a woman.

>>529126317
Slavs gonna slav. Also УPA!

>>529137705
>>529137256
Oh, I put down the wrong talent. I had Dog Explosion not Mine. That was just me testing the mine.

Still worth it to drop the 50% dog damage?

>>529138020
Who asked

Is bubble pretty much the best F ability psykers have?

>>529138102
Don't skip the stamina talent, it is one of the best toughness regen talents in the game period. You definitely could skip on the dog regen or block regen
The push cleave talent is S+ on Havocs, but outside of that it is entirely redundant.

>>529138414
No always, it's just the best easy value
Scrier's Gaze is batshit insane damage all of the time, it's just harder to use, but bubble is definitely the best in the maps with long sightlines and where gunners can have high ground

>>529138414
It does a thing completely unique to the class, unlike
>damage skill
>damage skill
by virtue of which it's the best. Everyone else can do damage, nobody can bubble.

Got arbi to 30 and this is my capital. Should I do a bunch of Damnation mission to get drops or just straight up upgrade my current items?

He didn´t like my name

>>529139080
What does he have against chudettes?

>>529139215
He probably thinks things sometimes happen
And that millions shouldn´t die

>>529139080
Someone who used the "random" name generator should keep his cunt shut.

have to manually pick the inferno missions to doo the event because if I quickplay I will only get into fags' story missions

>>529139080
>lowest damage player is the most vocal
>his name is dicklet
You can't make this shit up

>>529139080
You should rename yourself... Now!

>>529138945
just check armory every hour
worked for me, I got full arbites kit and more in 1 day while being relatively broke

>>529139080
I wish he knew how much you mogged him in the scoreboard

Is there a mod yet that removes the obnoxious arbites target skull? I just tried to shoot a sniper at 60 meters and all I could see was the retarded marker.

Running aurics with this build. It's fun.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9f4352fd-6352-4c40-9239-2e651f88e472/arbies-build

telekine shield shock or telekine bubble

>>529140132
the window is not very good compared to the bubble

>>529138570
Alright. Thanks, anon. Appreciate it!

what are these special havoc missions

>fall asleep in auric maelstorm
>clench my ass tight feel useless in havoc
how do i get good? i've done h40 multiple times but, probably because i was playing support zealot, i still feel like a useless dummy

>>529137705
>toughness on stamina spent bad
I can tell you are a shitter.

wish veteran had a polearm.

>>529140241
Havoc 40 is meant to feel like that. I do it from time to time, but honestly, I barely even play them anymore. Auric Maelstrom feels like the perfect mix of comfy and difficulty. Havoc 40 makes me feel like I gotta carry my entire team every time I do it and it always ends with me feeling frustrated even when we do get through it.

>>529140232
Progress through the game until you have to talk to slavgroid Dukane. It's skill-issue-build-issue-filtered-hardstuckie difficulty starting at 20, and sweatlord tryhard difficulty past 30.

>>529140241
>how do i get good?
Routine and experimentation, but mostly being picky with teammates, and/or having a dedicated social group to do havocs with. You're not going to be able to experiment much with off-meta carry builds because you'll either not get accepted into games, or your retards will be so useless that you don't even get past the first wave.
Havoc 40 is just more stressful than it's fun, and I've stopped playing more than just my weekly games because of it. I guess the climb from 30-40 is kind of fun when you get into the rhythm with a good team that sticks together for multiple games, but it's so fucking rare, man.

>>529140278
Never said that, retard

>>529140345
the sewn on skullcap always makes me chuckle

>>529140959
kek just noticed that right now

why do dreg gunners survive a bolt pistol round to the head when scab gunners don't

>>529140950
I can tell you are just giving shitty advice.

>>529141223
Nurgle juice.

>>529140345

>>529141223
scabs are sissy boys hiding frail and shrimpled bodies behind flak, dregs are nurgle blessed gigachads that have been huffing the fumes for longer than the scabs

>>529141667
well apparantly their heads count as flak which is uh... they're not WEARING ANYTHING.

wtf I need to replay from the easiest difficulty again on each of my already lvl 30 classes?
reeee

are eviscerators good now?

>>529132830
Nigga that doesn't matter when you have Concussive. Even the knife would be amazing with it

>>529140345
Wish Zealot had an explosive crossbow.

>>529141926
It matters because true staggering enemies making them entirely unable to attack back is great, especially for elites like ragers and maulers

How come so few people run the normal arbites maul and everyone goes with the shield?

>>529142160
You don't need to actually stagger anything if they're dead, anon

>>529142284
I prefer the regular maul desu. The only thing the shield has going for it is to be able to slowly walk towards a gunner patrol, but honestly there are so many tools for that, like just fucking sliding, that I don't really need it.

>>529141908
no retard *rapes you in your stupid bitch mouth* this is all your mouth is good for because everything you say is fucking stupid just suck my cock and shut the fuck up

>>529141273
Kill yourself

>>529142284
Shield is comfy. Flashbang is good, being able to block crushers is nice, and being able to block against shooters is pretty safe. It's not that much weaker from my experience.

>>529142602
Welcome back from your callcenter job, Sukhdeep. Living up to your name I see?

is it any good yet?

>>529142284
Shield is fun and more interesting
Only shield ogryn players have had any experience with using shields

>>529142432
That's true but Chord isn't known for killing things dead. Maybe different for Arbites? I have not heard otherwise from people that have used it
>>529142284
Because shield is insanely good defense, and most importantly, fun and novel
Arbites shock maul is definitely the best melee for the class I think. But they are close competition.

>>529141667
trvth nuke...

>>529142767
>you have to be a pajeet to rape dumb bitches in the mouth after they say something stupid
This post is more racist against white people like me than pajeets because it is implying we are cucks.

>>529139851
Skill issue

>>529142882
You are incredibly boring

>>529142882
Getting raped until you were crippled during your дeдoвщинa introduction to the draft doesn't imply that white people act like this. I don't claim you, little Vova.

>>529142854
>That's true but Chord isn't known for killing things dead
I'm gonna try that right now, actually. I've barely used the Chord, tbqh, I always used the Evisc instead anyway, but I'll be surprised if it's not up to the task.

>>529142432
>the only thing
along with blocking gunfire faster and without a space and vision requirement for sliding, it also denies overheads, lets you entirely tank daemonhosts without breaking stamina, and lets you stagger crushers, ragers and reapers

>>529142784
It's ok but I don't think the game really has any gameplay goals beyond obtain money currently, it's an actual honest to god alpha.

>>529143112
Not a slav either.
>>529143009
Really? You're really gonna say that when the response boils down to "pick a random nationality, say something offensive and hope it applies to him"?
I can't believe that post actually made some faggot seethe this hard lol. Coming up with a whole ass life stories for me (none of which actually apply) so he can try to feel superior instead of threatened like he does now. Sad!

>>529142602
u r a faggit, ackchyually
here's my lvl 30 psyker, no click, only uprising
bitch

how do i do the stab with the shield?

>Arbites shock maul will be uplayable. It doesn't even have Skullcrusher!
>Exterminator shotgun is pure trash. Look at this video of Fatshark shooting lone poxwalkers on Uprising. A youtuber sighed when talking about it!
>Dogless is the only way to play. The dog takes 10 seconds to kill a single enemy!
>Middle keystone will be the best. It's Weapons Specialist on steroids and that's the best vet keystone!
What did we learn?

>>529143606
use the pointy bit

>>529143681
Lots of silly billies.

>>529143606
only mark 6 has a shield stab

So after they remove the interaction with Bleed Bolt Pistol, what will be the next best gun? Should I just drop my dog at that point?

>>529143981
>untranny strike bleed grenade bug abuse hasn't been touched
Yeah I doubt they're touching the dog.

>>529143180
>blocking gunfire
Literally what I said, nigger
>without a space and vision requirement for sliding
In those cases you have a gun, blitz and perhaps a dog too.
>it also denies overheads
Literally just dodge
>lets you entirely tank daemonhosts
You shouldn't be fighting them in the first place but sure
>and lets you stagger crushers, ragers and reapers
You have a blitz, ability and a dog that can do the same.

>>529142729
Don't be an obvious troll next time.

>>529144073
I totally forgot about that. Good point.

>>529142284
Because shield good.
Also I have played ogryn the most and I mainly use the shield on him as well. So it was an easy choice to pick for me.

>>529144105
all valid for your difficulty of choice :) but where players with triple digit hours play, there's massive waves of elites and specialists and therefore having a melee weapon that can multitask so much is valuable
secondly, learn english, faggot. "along with" was because I was expanding on your point
>you shouldn't be fighting them in the first place
there's this modifier called heinous rituals and sometimes fighting daemonhosts is inevitable due to the nature of chance

Man, special condition missions like pox, lights out and vent purge are such a pain to get now, the map is always high int and doggies.
Why is it always 1 step forward 300 miles backwards with fatshark?

>>529142602
Rajesh, your porn addiction is showing.

>>529144323
Imagine admitting you need a shield on anything above damnation LMAO

>>529142284
Dunno if Shield is better or worse.
I just like the Shield. I like games that let me use a Shield and more specifically, use them as a weapon and gives me an active block at the same time.
Plus that Alt Attack is pretty incredible. I've saved a lot of people from being downed with that alone.

Plus - I feel like I can do more with shield. It feels more.... versatile? I don't know. But it feels nice having a block and more importantly, a block that can block ranged fire and heal toughness from it. Really nice.

>>529144645
>Why do you have a fire extinguisher in your home? You shouldn't start a fire anyway
It's easy to tell when you're arguing with someone that can't imagine an apple

>>529144105
The shield flash is great utility. It stuns all elites when flashbang them and spreads shock onto them.
Which is good because it synergizes with the high voltage blessing.

>>529144701
But I did eat breakfast.

how do you view someone else's dog's name

>>529137390
any force staff that's not inferno
run' n' gun blessing
skitarius to enable full auto

>>529144963
options, interface, scroll to the bottom to find nameplates

want to be big strong ogryn, what weapon do?

>>529143483
Kill yourself

>>529145065
big ol wet smooch headed right towards your lips rn

>>529144215
Kill yourself

>>529145124
Weapon go boom or bonk.

game sure love dumping 3 fucking monsters in tiny ass corridor

>>529145463
And? They're locked in there with you. Not the other way around.

shotguns really dont need 80 stability right 60 is surely plenty

>>529142284
I don't know about everyone else but;
>I have only ever played Ogryn. I tried to play other classes, but I didn't enjoy them. I mostly only used Shield on Ogryn.
>Shields are cool.
>This specific shield has a cool giga stun on everything around you and is incredibly good.
And lastly, I have taken my Shield into Havoc 40 and completed a dozen or so of them now. So it's not like it's not good enough to get rid of.

>>529145548
Considering the only thing you'll ever magdump without aiming is the darktide equivalent of the broadside of a barn, yeah, you dump stability.

>>529145316
good.
you better be right, or else...

>>529145548
it affects the spread of the pellets

>>529145772
There is also weapon what go dakka dakka and make BIG fire

I swear the damnation to auric unlock bar moves every mission like a pixel

>>529145017
>skitarius
skitarii class...

>>529145993
I think it's 10 wins. Just spam rolling steel.

>>529145993
if you go down, get netted, die, or fail a mission, or if anyone else does, you lose progress

>>529144701
Sure thing, boss. Bring your gunner comfort blankie because you can't conceive dealing with gunner patrols with any other tools the game has given you.

>he uses bolt pistol just to abuse the bleed oversight with dog
Pathetic

>>529146329
But muh Lexgiver pistol

>>529146329
You use bolt pistol to abuse bleed with dog.
I use bolt pistol to abuse bleed with 2h force sword beam.
We are the same and I will be mad if you get this patched.

>>529146176
>or if anyone else does, you lose progress
my mind is not ready to conceive such horrors

>>529146513
buy a hat and skip the grind :^)

This is perhaps the dumbest placement of a keychain I have seen in this game

>>529146176
>or if anyone else does
Bullshit, there's no way right?

>>529146329
I like to play a melee centric build and have built myself to be very tanky. But I also like the shield which doesn't do the most damage to bosses or carapace on Havoc. It's not awful, just not the best. And from my testing, I haven't been able to find a gun that lets me make up for my lack of boss killing. This wasn't an issue on Ogryn because they had several options for this. Arbite doesn't, or at least, I haven't found one.
If you give me one, I'll switch.

>>529147045
They should always be at the bottom of the handle. But they want people to purchase this slop so they put it in a place you can see. Which looks retarded 100% of the time.

>>529146329
But it's fun

>>529146290
if you cant see the value in a shield, it just means that you haven't played the game enough. You will change your mindset if you ever choose to evolve
it is redundant to argue with an auric mindset and its players because nothing you do in aurics matters, winning is guaranteed.

>>529145124
Ripper guns work well even in aurics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnuWGiNhQeI
Please rate

>>529147081
No, anon is just lying.
As long as you finish the mission it counts towards to progress.

>>529147235
nta but i lose aurics all the time

this game kind of cusk

>>529147567
>vtuber girl sona
>not a cute girl
you better at least be a cute femboy faggot...

>>529147567
I rate it buy a fucking ad

>seen dozens of DerekChauvins
Always gets a chuckle. I don't care how many times I see it, it always makes me happy.

>>529147731
im a cute manly man

>>529147816
I am absolutely pissed but thankfully for you I will contain my rage today

Which one? I'm leaning toward The Fatalist.

The Maul sounds way too forced. It's obvious the voice actor is putting on a Dredd voice and when he says certain words, it becomes even more apparent, like a kid trying to sound like Dredd.

>>529147949
no no no please feel free to let it all out on me

>>529147801
What if my dog's name is DerekChewvin

>>529148327
Absolutely based.
I just named my Dog after my Dog in real life. But if I weren't going to name him that, I'd steal that name.

>>529148461
K-N0T

>>529148298
one night in one of these threads an anon came up with the headcanon that "the maul" arbitrator is just trying to sound like a badass

that guy literally fucking killed me that day and i was laughing for a minimum of 2 maybe 3 minutes fucking straight. my sides were actually sent to low earth orbit because of how true it sounds

>>529148461
Your dog looks retarded

>>529148635
meanie

>>529148635
no it doesn't

AHHHHHHHHH WHY DOES IRONBREAKER SUCK

>>529146290
Having multiple tools to deal with issues is better.
I use the mk6 shield and run it alongside the mk8 arby shotgun and I use the dog with remote explosion.
The shield works well if you ever get caught with your pants down and you can use it to safely maneuver behind cover into safety. The mk8 shotgun works well as a sniper to take the said gunners out efficiently. And the dog can be used to take out gunners as well.

>>529148635
Fuck you nigger

>>529147235
There's a difference between seeing the value of the shield and forgoing better weapons despite having plenty of other tools that let you deal with the same problem for free. On Arbites of all fucking classes too.
If anything, you're outing yourself as a complete retard if you think being flanked by patrols doesn't completely invalidate your shield, unless they magically block your back as well.

>>529148635
Shut it, Dindu subhuman.

>>529148461
why did you slap your dog with a handful of talcum powder :(

>>529148721
wtf do you mean ironbreaker is one of the most broken classes in the game for cata twitch and tzeentch event

>>529148778
using the shield doesnt preclude you from utilizing the same techniques you survive gunfire without it. you can do both

>b-but the overlap!!!
redundancy is only a problem whenever you actually lose out on something. mk6 s&m has arguably the best light attacks of any non-ogryn weapon in the game, especially when you factor in all of the absurd cleave that cops get baked into their talents

>>529148742
>>529148841
Niggers like dogs though.

>>529148996
Do they? I don't have Blacks in my country. But my Dog seems to only bark at people sufficiently dark. I don't know why. I haven't trained it to do that.

>>529148724
You already have multiple tools that let you deal with that same problem. I'd respect your opinion infinitely more if your reasoning for using the shield was because you like it, or the free electrocution on hits for free synergy. But using it BECAUSE gunners will rape you otherwise is just really sad.

With that said, I just realized one very specific scenario that I actually wish I had a shield, and that's on those fucking levels that are so fucking dark you can't see 4 feet in front of you because you're using a pen flashlight - meaning that the funny surprise Shotgunner patrols are completely fucking invisible until they flash before shooting

Who has the funnest lines for Arbitrator.

I've chosen based on voice before but usually end up getting the boring characters. I want to choose based on the funnest lines.

>>529148778
I'm thinking that I play Havoc and the game introduces scenarios that you haven't been in, therefore I see the value in ways you don't. For one, "gunner patrols" aren't really a thing. Instead you get massive waves of gunners. Sliding isn't a fix-it-all solution, there's a moment where you stand up and you can be shot for a split second, there's no toughness break grace period in Havoc, and in that split second you can suffer health damage if your toughness is down. If enemies are in your way you can't slide. The shield suppression lets you stun and suppress gunners and any enemies blocking your path, it lets you advance towards them and kill them one by one, without having to awkwardly slide around, because they are too busy recovering to shoot. This takes absolutely zero of your limited tools. You can use your ultimate, your blitz, your ammo, but all of these are limited and comparatively less versatile.
I do see how the shield is entirely overkill for anything not Havoc.

>>529149242
not fatalist. bro is as dry as a potato chip

>>529148996
Humans like dogs. It came for free with your fucking evolutionary instincts unless you were mindbroken by a barking poodle as a child

>>529146329
I use the boltpistol so I can run lethal proximity and whip it out to stun hordes or nail snipers with a snapshot before switching back to my shock maul.

>>529142284
shield has confident strike
special attack is like a second blitz on shorter cooldown (better than dogsplosion too)

The brittleness shotty is growing on me.

>>529149336
evolution doesnt exist

>>529146329
Give me a weapon that lets me kill monsters or armored cunts then. No, the Bolter is too slow to whip out, I hate it.

gatshield better mean theyre going to give the punisher gauntlet a god damn shield

>>529149438
how do you explain the mountain of evidence over the last ~140 years that supports it

>>529149298
To add to this, shield is another layer of protection, which you can never have enough of in Havoc. By nature of it, things will always go wrong, you are led to make mistakes more often and they are easily punished, you have to prepare to face odds against you
On paper "just sliding" sounds easy on paper but in practice there are many reasons to why ranged fire is the cause of most deaths

>>529149560
Jews fabricated most of history, you should only believe things you have seen with your eyes

>>529149560
anon he already conceded and is now just baiting

>Fatalist sounds extremely elitist, calm and measured in his dialogue when choosing him
>Think that'll give him cool unique dialogue that isn't just "GRR DREDD VOICE YOU BROKE THE LEX"
>instead he's just a worse version of the other two and seems to have even less lines of dialogue
Weird.

>>529149789
if they've fabricated most of history they're better at fiction than literally any novelist or storywriter in the entire history of our species to an utterly inconceivable degree

>>529149472
Bro your executioner shotgun?

>>529149861
I picked female fatalist and I swear a quarter of her lines are accidentally playing from another class or something.

>>529149951
I've noticed this a lot. Whenever I play Savant Psyker and interact with Fatalist arbitrators, she keeps referring to him as "Ogryn" and "Brute"

>>529149917
No people are just dumb and believe anyone they think is smarter than them

>>529149861
dialogue is broken right now, characters are much shier than before arbites released
we haven't even been hearing the proper small talk that we're supposed to. probably getting fixed next patch

>>529149242
Maul

>>529146329
that interaction is the same problem as uncanny strike counting for shredder nades on vet or throwing knifes on zealot as in will never be patched, they would need to unfuck their underlying logic first

>>529149472
I used accatran pump shotgun before abusing the bolt pistol, they roughly fill the same role if you disregard the dog boom bleed.

>>529148298
the maul reminds me of a batman impression

>>529148990
I never implied you can't do all of the above. It's just that the reason given for it is just really really weak. I actually really like the shield, but if I find myself in a situation that not having it meant getting killed then it's 100% skill issue.

>>529149298
Gunner "waves" are never a problem because they come from the same direction, dipshit. The game has a funny mechanic that when you engage gunners in melee they shit themselves and stop shooting. The only exception being shotgunners that sometimes strafe backwards, but I honestly rarely see it happen, especially in big groups. The real danger of gunners in my experience is not when 20 of them pop out of a door, but rather when they come from 2 different directions in massive numbers, which in Hav is a guaranteed.

>>529149615
"Just sliding" doesn't do shit unless you're in pissing distance, I'm not that fucking crazy. I'm just used to not having a shield long before the Beetus update and have already had to adapt without it. So I think it's fucking weird to bring a less than optimal weapon for every other scenario than this one that you should already be able to solve without it.

>>529150035
Supposedly banter plays a lot less in campaign missions

rate perfect block build, is it viable?

>>529149438
>>529149789
lol

>>529149861
He has the same lines as the veteran for fuck sake what a scam.
THE FUCKING EXACT SAME LINES

>>529150259
>they stop shooting when you engage them in melee
The game does teach this, but either the AI is broken or there are exceptions to this "rule" because this doesn't always happen. Gunners will often just magdump you even as you strike them. And, obviously, getting into melee range of one of the gunners doesn't stop the gunners that are not within melee range from shooting, so your point is kaput

>>529150026
jews are guilty of a considerable amount of complete fuckery, but literally inventing history is not one of them; you give them far too much credit. they certainly have pull and influence over western media, but literally fucking NONE in asia, especially china. slanteyes hate jews more than hitler ever did; they've still come to the came conclusions in the sciences everyone else has.

in fact, given how many people currently despise them for their activities in the holy land over the last couple decades, i'd say they're actually doing a pretty fucking shit job in general and are a terrible shadow cabal type organization

>>529150458
Show proof

>>529150486
The female Fatalist 100% is just Female Veteran.

SO it's the same for Male? Weird. Is it a bug?

>he gets killed by gunners while sliding
Bitch I have 0 toughness investment on my zealot and I'm dodging h40 bullets like crazy, what the fuck are you doing?
>muh fading light
bro, your gunner resistance?

>>529150579
how would it be a bug? it's another voice actor but the exact same lines.

>>529150259
>>529150543
yeah what? i've been melted in literal point blank range by gunners as im smacking them in the face. maybe you need some sort of stagger/impact threshold to knock them out of it

What's a good name for my Arbitrator?

I don't want to use some meme name. And I don't also want to use a randomized name even if I liked some of them.

>>529150451
>is it viable
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Not consistent nor worth it
at least until they add sound and visual cues to perfect blocking

>>529150574
They don't need to control eastern media just being buddy buddy with their governments and having the same idea to enslave anyone under them is enough for most asian countries to act the same as western and teach the same fake history and fake science.

>>529150726
Dredditor

>>529150486
wait what

>>529150543
>but either the AI is broken or there are exceptions to this "rule" because this doesn't always happen
Okay, fair enough actually. Although when I see gunners do this they just magdump the last position I was in when not in melee. Only shotgunners seem to actively disregard this "rule" entirely every now and then

>>529150716
It could legit be a case of having to reset their animation via damage or stagger if they've already started shooting. Actually, I wanna go and test this right now cause I'm curious.

What the fuck is a unique enemy?
Do I need to I'M TANKING an ogre or something

>>529150716
>>529150869
Pretty sure it's guaranteed that they will just keep shooting if they are CC resistant too but can't recall for sure

>>529150906
>ESL
Each dude only counts once.

>>529150869
>wait what
the fatalist arbitrator say line like "Sever the head, the body dies" (or similar i don't remember well) and it's the exact same line as the veteran

why does every single modern shooter have fucking rpg elements and builds and all this autistic math shit

just let me shoot shit I don't want to talk about fucking breakpoints or what the fuck ever

dog is too powerful

>>529150726
Just do a cool latin name or something

>>529151060
it's what gamers demand. people like to optimize things, even if it makes them huge fags in the end.
>>529151078
hilariously ironic

>>529151060
Breakpoints are a meme, just get as much damage as possible

>>529150726
Wilford for you
Brimley for your dog

>>529150979
Nigger please.
Unique in videogames usually means unique. Not "different enemies".
But you sound like a sw*d* apologist.

>>529151040
Wait, with the vet's voice or the Arb's voice actor?

>>529150726
Incussus/Impulsus
Prospicio

I still dont quite get what I should be doing with weapon upgrades. From what I understand from this thread, you start with a good baseline of 4 stats at 80% and one dump stat at 60%, then level up your mastery, and add your blessing. I think this is a good staff to start upgrading with, but I have no idea which blessings and perks to use with it, any ideas?
Is this staff even good? Its a lot of fun. It and the VoidStrike feel good to use, The electric staff didnt feel impactful (could be my level) and I ahvent unlocked the fire staff yet.

>>529151310
Yeah seems a good starting point to me, getting the right dump stat at 60% is most the battle these days, thank fuck.

>>529151310
Yes that's good numbers.
Get quell on headshot, I don't fucking remember anymore what else voidblast wants.

>>529150575
Humans and chimps share around 98% of their DNA.
Meaning we share a common ancestor.

>>529151180
Or you could just not be a fucking retard and play normally, see that your counter is at like 70 for absolutely no discernible reason, and come to the logical conclusion that it means "unique" in the most literal sense that each enemy only counts once for the penance. I was at 200 before I even paid attention to it.
Unless you're a blocklet, of course, in which case stay out of my aurics.

favourite names you've seen?

>>529151283
with the arb voice actor, that's why I said it can't be a bug

>>529151310
You got most of it right, but you can totally level with some random statted piece of shit, or something you bought from Melk, especially if you're running low on cash. Just be aware that upgrading a poorly statted weapon will obviously cost you twice if you want to have an actually good one later on.
Realistically, for most weapons, you just need a couple levels in it to unlock a worthwhile blessing to make that weapon good. It's actually kinda okay to level with just a blue lasgun that only has infernus, for example.

Voidblast is ground pound, right?
Rending shockwave lets you actually kill armored enemies good. Warp flurry is more raw DPS, blazing spirit with a proper crit build should work better when there's enough enemies to be relevant. If you do go burn, make sure you perk flak, and potentially crit. Otherwise flak and carapace might be worth considering.
I haven't used voidblast much in a while so take this with a grain of salt. Warp resistance is definitely the dump stat, since you really want all the other stats to be high.

>>529151891
None, the lex-pun are cringe and the cop movies/shows references are unoriginals.

>>529151825r
>Unless you're a blocklet, of course, in which case stay out of my aurics.
Blocking is useless in this game for the most part. At the highest levels it's barely a thing unless you are being targeted by a monstrosity, like a chaos spawn doing that quick crawling attack.

This one of the reasons why nobody uses stuff like the Offensive Defence blessing. Yeah, it sounds good on paper but when you actually play with it you realize it is not worth using because the stacks don't build up fast enough to be useful.
You could make an argument for using Lightning Reflexes but that requires you to block at a perfect moment for kind of minimal benefit, tier 4 LR only gives you 25% strength for 3 seconds.

>>529152395
>Blocking is useless in this game for the most part
Most things that interact with block are useless. Blocking is vitally important and will save your life when you need it. Blocking also happens naturally when you're reviving someone. Stamina and block efficiency are good stats.
Stay out of my aurics.

>>529152224
What the fuck? That is either epitome of incompetence by giving the actor the wrong script, or the epitome of lazyness for intentionally reusing another character's lines.

sasuga Fartshit, you never fail to impress me

I like blocking because it lets me pretend I'm doing this

>>529151310
all staves want 60% quell speed because it scales like shit from 60 - 80 and there's no reason not to maximize the other stats, which more directly impact your damage/dps.

>electric staff
medium-high damage to targets wearing metal armor. prioritizes ease-of-use and crowd control over abject efficacy. my personal favorite because i'm an aimlet.
>perks
flak/carapace
>warp nexus & warp flurry

>voidstrike
closest thing we have to fireball. its pretty good all-rounder and can do acceptable boss damage, but requires weakspot hits to really push that envelope
>perks
flak/maniac/unyielding/crit%
>blessings
surge & warp nexus

>voidblast
decent all-rounder. good at the dreaded "mixed armor" hordes found in the highest difficulties since it ignores stagger/knockback resistances inherent to certain armor types
>perks
flak/maniac
>blessings
rending shockwave/warp flurry

>inferno
flamethrower with infinite ammo. only downside is relatively poor range
>perks
flak/maniac/unyielding
>blessings
warp flurry & penetrating flame

Does the toughness regen on stamina usage count stamina used for blocking?

>>529152360
Let's see your arbies name, anon

>>529152734
yeah

>>529152536
You don't need to block anything besides monstrosities. Just dodge.
This is why I don't even use block efficiency because it is pointless. And I take stamina regen on my curios instead because it works better.

You are just bad at playing the game if you need to block so much.

>>529152395
I don't know. Shield Plates is pretty good. You can block some random dreg single shot once and get some quick and easy toughness. Over an entire game, having constant easy regen of Toughness is pretty insane. Helps a lot on Havoc.

>>529152817
>just dodge
I accept your concession. I'm not letting you into my havocs either.

>>529152734
Yes.
It counts for sprinting as well.

>>529152964
nta but
>playing havocs
lmao

>>529152734
It counts all Stamina usage. Which is why it's so powerful. It's one of their best talents. Running ducking and diving? Toughness. Blocking? Toughness. Pushing? Toughness. It's great.

>>529151484
>>529151567
>>529152347
>>529152723
Thanks for the tips!
>Get quell on headshot,
I'll do that.
>you can totally level with some random statted piece of shit,
I get that, which is why I've just been using whatever and not touching the upgrade screen until I found this one. Seemed like a keeper.
>Voidblast is ground pound, right?
Yes, and I'll save this post to check out for my build later.
>all staves want 60% quell speed because it scales like shit from 60 - 80
Damn, I wasnt sure if quell speed or warp resist was the dump stat. This one is still worth keeping right?
Saving this post as well.

>>529153008
t. hardstuck in 20

>>529152964
I don't play havoc because it is boring.
>>529152909
It's better to just keep hitting stuff because you literally get 10% back for every enemy you stagger and you then get 5 toughness back for every enemy you kill.

>>529153089
Quell speed will literally save your life in terrible situations where peril block is the only thing keeping you alive, and you quickly swap to the staff to quell. Don't listen to the other anon.

>>529153116
kinda, never touched havocs even once since their inclusion
im good on weaves 2.0

>>529153217
>It's better to just keep hitting stuff because you literally get 10% back for every enemy you stagger and you then get 5 toughness back for every enemy you kill.
Yeah, but having constant regen just from occassionally throwing at a block for a split second at anyone even remotely looking at you gets you constant regen, which is invaluable on Havoc.

>>529153030
Exactly.
It's the reason why this guy is an obvious troll >>529137705

>>529153217
>x mechanic is bad
>I only play on baby mode difficulty btw
Can't you just shut the fuck up and listen to your betters, you dunning kruger retard?

>>529153351
>Yeah, but having constant regen just from occassionally throwing at a block for a split second at anyone
Or just use Wank it Off and gain 15% stamina for every 1 stamina bar you used, and this regens over the course of 3s.

>>529151825
HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW WHAT RAISES THE COUNTER IF THERE'S NO SIGN OF WHAT RAISES THE COUNTER
KILL
YOUR
SELF
SWEDE APOLOGIST

>>529153568
>block poxies
>number go up
>keep blocking
>number no go up
Reminder that retards like this guy are allowed to vote.

>>529153381
I have played havoc and got to 40 and it is boring.
Blocking is still useless and you should be attacking more for best offence is your best defence. The enemies can't hurt you when they are dead.

I really want an explosive secondary for Arbites

>>529153247
Got it.

On the topic of psyker weapons, are the force swords and force greatswords good? I know the meta is the dueling sword, but Im a psyker, I want to use a force weapon dammit.

>>529153849
Grenade launcher for vet/arbite one day. Trust the plan.

>>529153849
bolt pistol with lethal proximity? I guess?
works pretty decently for quickly pulling out to nail specials or stagger a horde getting up in your face before you wade in.

>>529153849
Assault ram soon

>>529154008
yeah they can be, for the regular force swords the specialized varients are better than the generic one, I usually go for the MK IV since it seems to do ok at hordes anyways despite being more of a single target moveset.
the big sword may as well be a power greatsword.

>>529154008
Force swords have the best blessing in the game (uncanny strike) and iirc also have pretty good crit blessings. The penis shaped one is a decent stand-in for the dueling sword, but the "meta" reason to use one is peril block.
The greatswords have two strengths. For one, if you build HEAVILY into exclusively being a melee psyker, they're about the best melee weapon you can have, but such builds are very hard to play and I wouldn't recommend it. For two, if you're building shock staff, or some weird gun psyker build, both of which likely have atrocious trash clear, the Mk VIII with wrath blessing singlehandedly carries it.
Also the moonlight beam is quite good against packs of ragers.

>>529143681
All of those were right

Is the difficulty selector broken? Cant go up, can't go down, the arrows are clickable but do nothing. I saw that difficulty isn't inherently tied to the mission anymore but that doesnt really matter if I cant actually choose what difficulty I want.

does the arbites bonk stick without a shield do anything?

>>529154534
see that bar thats filling up underneath it? thats your XP bar to unlock the next difficulty.

>>529154534
See that bar? Do missions to fill it, then you can go to the next difficulty, blame sw*doids

>>529153660
>The enemies can't hurt you when they are dead.
You can't hurt the enemies when you are dead.
Everyone that actually plays the game knows that killing shit fast is obviously better than defensive plays in almost every regard, but you're delusional if you think blocking is bad. There will invariably be situations where you're cornered in a bad spot, and it won't even be your fault. Block saves your life here.
What, are you going to call psyker's peril block node a waste of points, when it allows the class to go for a nearly free res of the CC guy on the team when everyone else is down, salvaging the run? Who are you, fucking Tranner? Cope and theorycraft all you want, people don't play perfect, and blocking saves runs.

What are the hardest stretches in all the missions to you? That train tunnel in vigil station (i think? so many maps look the same who knows) can turn south so fast with how tight the corridors are.

>>529154592
Ah I missed that part in the patch notes. Still, shouldn't I be able to at least go back down? Not that I'd want to but just for posterities sake.

https://poal.me/4xwqvp
pick fast

>>529154584
it mulches crushers and monsters even faster than the sheilded varient if you build it right.
It's up to you if you value that over the ability to block a gunner opening up on your ass or not.

>>529154708
You're on the lowest difficulty dude, they got rid of the old lowest difficulty on account of it not being much different from uprising anyways except trying to bore the player to death.

>>529148298
Fatalist. Authoritarian only sounds right with an asian character and Maul is too goofy. I dont care for the "ermmm he's supposed to sound like a cringe edgelord, that's why its good!"

>>529154845
Makes sense. Thanks anon.

>>529154708
Sedition was removed, so there's nothing to go down to from Uprising.

>had to abandon quickplay because its 90% campaign ez mode missions
>now when i manually queue for aurics i have to wait 10+ minutes for someone to join
>most people probably getting sucked into the campaign missions by using quickplay still
fatshark is so incompetent its unreal

>>529153247
>>529154008
the difference between 60% quell speed and 80% quell speed is ~106 ms with 100% peril and the 30% quell talent. thats not meaningful whatsoever considering it still takes some ~2.0 seconds to "reload" from 100 to 0. also, if you're blocking with a deflector/kinetic deflection combo youre not going to swap to your staff to quell. that's retarded advice. you spend more time swapping to your staff quelling something like 5% faster then swapping back to your sword to continue blocking than you would if you were to just quell with your sword in the first place.

the quell speed stat on your stave only applies whenever you are quelling with that weapon readied, it isn't a global bonus to your quell

>>529154707
First segment of Clandestium Gloriana, not because I struggle with it, but because nobody goes through the tunnels, takes forever on the outside portion leading TO the tunnels, and then some retard always causes 2-3 players to get cliffed with a barrel. Or similar situations when a monstrosity spawns and everyone scatters.
The next hardest one would be the second segment in Clandestium Gloriana because retards always, without exception, completely and aggressively disregard objectives, and the section spawns so many enemies that it regularly causes 2-3 downs at the bare minimum. Also retards try to save medkits for the next mission instead of just putting it down next to the stairs like you are fucking supposed to.

>>529149560
what *hard* evidence do we have that can't be chalked up to coincidence?

>>529155114
gmo crops

>>529155045
>the quell speed stat on your stave only applies whenever you are quelling with that weapon readied, it isn't a global bonus to your quell
You just proved that you are talking out of your ass, because quelling happens instantly after weapon swap, and you absolutely should always swap to your staff to quell because the force swords have aboslutely atrocious quell rates for some reason. Shut the fuck up.

>manually quelling
lmao @ bubbletards

>>529155246
now you're just arbitrarily inflating APM, increasing your chances to make a mistake, for an objectively nominal bonus to your quell speed. you're supposed to reduce risk, not increase it

>>529155358
>pressing the bind for previously equipped weapon before quelling is too much mental overhead for my 80 IQ brain
Shut the fuck up.

>sedition removed because the situation is bad enough that no such small events occur
F-fatshark sama...

>>529153656
>block poxies
Remember this guy is allowed to live

>>529155546
GO OUT SARR

>>529146329
Is this you

>>529155546
>koop game
lmao what, this was on uprising too?

>>529156091
This a US server thing? I've never seen anyone so much as fuckin talk except to roleplay being an ogryn.
Anyways I hope you dissapointed him as punishment for whining about what he finds in public lobbies.

>>529155546
SAAR DO NOT REDEEM THE DEMON HOST
SAAR FUCKING BENCHOD GO OUT
GO OUT FUCKING BASTERD BITCH GO OUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTT

>>529156091
I'm waiting for the moment i get called out

why is the dog attack keybound to the ping button?

>>529156262
This was on EU

>>529146329
the what?

did everything go wrong because of pd2 weapon skins?

>>529156369
Because everyone has that button on their mouse

>>529156369
Console plebs probably, gotta keep the button count low so people can play on a pad.

>>529156403
interaction with the dogsplosion and the puncture blessing on the boltpistol makes the dog apply a gorillion bleed stacks to everything the explosion hits and instakill everything

>>529156403
Bolt pistol gets a blessing called puncture that causes bleed
Dog bomb blitz counts as ranged damage
Equipping a ranged weapon with puncture while the dog bomb is doing damage causes bleed stack buildup on the enemies

does havoc increase poxies hit mass?
it's weird how I can cleave enemies in damnation but in havoc it suddenly takes 2 business days to clear a small group

>make a single mistake
>get disabled
>INSTANTANEOUS WIPE
I just want to play the goddamn game

>>529156923
don't get hit then

>>529154074
Anything to spam into those waves of 20 Bulwarks and figuratively melt them, like Flamer

How do i git gud in Ratclick 2?
Finally got around installing it a couple weeks ago and i'm having fun but i want to improve and click rats even harder on higher difficulties.

>>529156975
Why does nobody co-operate in a co-operative game
Why are bots better players than my randos

>>529155448
too specific. better to just have a bigger fire cloud/shoot more enemy. anons not going into havoc 40 for another hundred hours at a minimum. relax

>>529156721
Yep

>>529155546
I had a guy go on a complete melty over mic when I did this on my first ever heresy match.

I had never seen a Daemonhost before so I thought it was just a normal boss the boss bar is exactly the same.
I just left why should I listen to some bald guy yelling at me for an honest mistake.

>>529157084
just dodge and block man what more is there to say

>>529156091
>throwing boxes
>bleeding everything
>flames everywhere
>exploding barrels

Some of the many ways you can make thirdies with shit pcs seethe

>>529156091
Nah I never bother talking in-game. I just see you fags using your borderline exploit crutch and still failing to keep up with me on the scoreboard, chuckle to myself, then move on.

>>529156369
because consoles have a limited number of buttons
which shouldn't prevent PC from rebinding it but something something complain about fatshark

>>529157084
i cant play vermintide 2. there's no shitter sounds for whenever youre about to take damage like darktide and i just die every fucking match over and over and over. its not fun. i dont understand how people play that game without it. even aurics are trivially easy to me but champion ratclick filters the absolte fuck out of me

me UNGA
team BUNGA

>>529157206
>>529155546
It's crazy how heresy is full of embittered shitters who are hyper hostile to new players, its like some guy who had to repeat classes 10 times so now he's still in 4th grade at age 21 and he goes
>ugh you kids are dumb, just stay the FUCK home okay?
to the children

>>529156091
somewhat understandable, playing snorics with a infernus or smygger psyker fucking sucks, it feels like AFK mode in a difficulty that's already easier than intended, but when that happens I just sigh and don't mention it
i think the dog bleed explosion is nowhere near the level of actually ruining others' experiences

>>529156091
If he's referring to the electro dog bleed exploit(maybe) then I agree with yellow.

>>529157497
Wtf, how

>>529157084
managing your stamina is actually important unlike shopclick

>>529157430
Allow me to translate for those not versed in trannyspeak
>I spent all game intentionally ignoring the objective to lag behind and farm kills and nothing else, but then some bleed chuddie got a bigger number than me anyway, so I'm really really mad!

Convince me not to hog all out, everything except the Ogryn slop looks dapper

>>529156091
Bleed Explosion isn't even that powerful though? I stopped using it because I found the Shotgun to simply be better.

There are more legitimate builds or classes that are even more powerful than that...

>>529158062
Yes, that's what makes this so funny and pathetic. A default ogryn is more snoozeworthy than bleed dog.

>>529157260
There's gotta be more to it than that. I began figuring out combo chains but i am yet to develop proper muscle memory and often i am tempted in going full retard unga bunga and spamming attacks because seeing rats fly when i hit them with hammer is very fun. I think Slayer might be my favorite thus far. But yeh doging and pushing is something i gotta work on

>>529157497
I found putting your back against the wall and not wandering off helps. Going full retard is fun but that always gets me killed, try playing the tank careers with shields and stuff maybe? Ironbreaker is very easy also i haven't played Darktide so i don't know how it works there but i think Vermintide has pretty good sound cues overall.

>>529157497
level up every single character to max, make bot builds for all of them, get red weapons for everybody, they can arguably carry your ass.
it's not like darktide where you get saddled with three veterans with no skills or upgrades and an AI that was dropped on its head as a baby.

too many arby in havoc! I need bubblebitch back

>Only way to make the dual link stubbers viable is with the looger PBB fire build
>Rippergun does the better job of the dual stubbers than the actual dual stubbers with looger build, like infinitely so. Does well outside of PBB and the PBB is a full on screen clear
Man fatshark still fucking hates this thing, huh.

>>529158062
That's because you don't play in difficulties with high enemy density

>>529156091
he's right
>haha isn't this fun (for me) hope you guys like watching :))
kill yourself

>>529158298
i'm trying but nobody wants me

>>529157995
it will cost you $40 to buy the outfits sans ogryn. is $40 a lot of money for you? then don't buy them. if its not, then go for it.

>>529158343
>waah waaah don't carry me nyooo

>>529158620
t. launch SoTTnigger, javelin user, pyromancer abuser, pre-nerf assail user and local vetshitter abusing piss vision at early-access launch

>>529156451
T you mean of course

>>529158892
>how DARE you use a strong build, I'm ENTITLED to get top score with my meme penance setup!!

>>529159065
the braindead metaslave shudders at the thought of an honest playstyle and not abusing the latest bug to deal 999999999999 damage or toggle god mode

>>529159202
My favorite build is stealth vet actually, but you're free to continue coping and projecting.

>>529157934
Cope and seethe exploit faggot.

>>529159301
No wonder you like exploiters
You need them to carry you

>>529159518
You misunderstand. I use bleed dog, and I like stealth veteran.

Game is only fun for me if there's density. If there's some fag using an exploit to wipe shit out there's no more density for the rest and I usually just start making my own fun with barrels and demonhosts. I'm not even upset people do it, fair enough they make their own fun, but it's also fair enough if I start making my own fun

>>529159773
>I'm not even upset people do it, fair enough they make their own fun, but it's also fair enough if I start making my own fun

Do you like my hobo anons?

>>529160140
What part of that do you take issue with spud

If someone else outdps'd me? Padding stats on chaff
If someone else got more special kills than me? They didn't do objectives
If someone else took less damage than me? They spent the whole match hiding behind cover
Simple as

>>529160314
No?

>>529160578
If someone else blows me off the map with a barrel? Its always a Psyker

>>529161004
KINDRED YON BARREL

>>529160750
oh

>>529160314
love him

>>529160314
hate him

>Nobody can tell me how to play. I paid 40 dollars for this game same as everyone else. I'll exploit and make the games easy, I don't care, play with friends if you don't like it.
>i-is that... a LIT BARREL? OH MY GOD GRIEFER GRIEFER GRIEFER GRIEFER SOMEONE BAN HIM HE'S NOT ALLOWED TO SHOOT THERE HE CAN'T PLAY THE GAME THIS WAY IT'S NOT ALLOWED

>>529160314
I use the same setup except with the red and white striped pants

>>529158203
yeah positioning is a big one, you don't want to be in the open ever because ratling gunners wish you would
make care to not get hit by enemies behind enemies
there are ALWAYS enemies behind you
if the boss is targeting you, just block and lead it to somewhere safe for you
absolutely shoot plague monks, fuck those guys (the intention is that you are supposed to just block and wait for teammates to kill them)

>>529160314
I use the same setup except with entirely different cosmetics

erm

>ASS first try
>no damage taken on the last map
feels pretty good

>>529162601
Would it be possible to just wait for Rolling Steel to show up every time and get the penance that way?

guess you couldn't see the rows properly
>>529162708
plenty of ways to exploit it but it's so gay i won't even consider doing that

>>529162601
that should demonstrate how rare/special that penance is

>>529162601
I don't like to wear that title, it feels like everyone who does is using it like a dunce cap and probably cheesed their way into it.

>>529162981
I recommend turning off scores, makes the scoreboard 10x more readable and they're random dogshit anyway
>blocking contributes more defense score than not taking damage
:')

>>529163271
The default scoreboard settings and scoring are really, really weird anyway. You get heaps of points for staggering enemies too, for example, so smiggers are technically scoreboard farming.

I honestly gave up on the scoreboard entirely if someone plays like complete dogshit it'll be obvious anyways.

>>529163569
i was in an auric match on my woundmaxxing zealotte last night where i was playing like a hyperaggressive retard not caring about taking damage and popping barrels like i got paid for it. spent half the match dead just spewing funny epic reddit memes in the text chat and i had more special and elite kills and monster damage than anyone else

How do you see scoreboard? I see no red circles at the end.
I only play Ogre btw

I hate Chaos Spawn.

>>529163838
There's a scoreboard mod but it's broken and only shitters use it.

>>529163838
Mod that attributes half the other peoples kills to you

>>529164095
But if that's true why does the scoreboard look identical for two people in the same match?

Is it worth attempting Havoc without a party

>>529164946
don't bother it's just the latest shitter cope. My friends scoreboard and mine are always within 5%

>>529164946
Because it attributes them to the "host"

Actually respectable title
>True Survivor
>Havoc Forged

Basically outing yourself as a shitter who can't beat havoc
>Auric Storm Survivor
>Auric Exemplar
>Poxbreaker
>Reject

Captcha: G0Y

>>529165303
and who is the "host" my friend? Did you know this game isn't p2p?

>>529165360
>>Havoc Forged
Easily carried, doesn't require that you pay attention. You can corpse drag someone to havoc forged. You can't corpse drag someone to true survivor.

>>529165360
>title
>respectable
shitter cope

>>529165450
The one with the best connection is the "host".

>>529165360
This has to be bait.

>le disconnect your way to survivor

>>529164990
no

>haven't touched Havoc since getting a few 40s done near launch
>friends new to the game want to play some Havocs
>now walking around with my little Havoc 13 rank next to my level
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Budding Interrogator is the only title that infers skill

ENOUGH WITH YOUR TITLES! IT'S PENANCE INSPECTION DAY, SHOW ME YOUR PENANCE!

devastating strike should literally be infinite cleave for 2 seconds on critical hit

>>529167004

>>529167004
I don't even have all the weapon penances. That should give you an idea about the fucks I give about most penances

>>529167004
Came back to the gayme 3 days ago, pls understando

>>529167276
>i dont give a fuck about penances
>more than double mine
????

>>529165360
True survivor is pain, no matter how hard i try to keep people from their own stupidity someone is going to get blasted, i even started going on a more support focused zealot to RELICMAX but it still won't work.

>>529167640
Hours? You just accrue a lot of them naturally

>>529167742
Kek that banner

>>529168031
Time for bannerfag to update his banners with Paulus Blartium

What's the point of the Relic Blade? This thing is way too fuckin slow

What's the deal with Brahms's grandad?

>>529164095
i think you've confused darktide with helldivers 2 bro

>>529168031
Hell yeah, brother

>>529165360
I run Cyber Falcon because it sounds cool, every retard I see running the E-peen titles is somehow the worst players I've ever seen which is at odds with them requiring any skill whatsoever to acheive.
and half the retards running these things used exploits for the penance anyways.

>>529168172
Brahms' grandad is the ship.

Is heresy not the same thing as before the difficulty update? I could carry any shitters through it while leveling, but now it's kicking my ass. Granted we're doing inferno maps but still

Tomorrow I will finally get to play as the unlubed fist of the Lex.

>>529168114
The one and only

>>529168360
inferno maps are low intensity by default; pox hordes are limited

>>529167004
>>529167276
I'm kinda the same way, I only aim for penances that have some sort of reward behind them, I don't really care to farm points for points sake, though I guess the penance lady has that wierd notbattlepass thing tied to it nowdays.

>>529163182
yeah i'm never going to equip it either. Sticking with my blank title, preorder frame and orthus offensive hard mode insignia until the end of time

>>529168165
I've used it in both Auric Maelstroms and Havoc 40 to good success, so unless it's gotten nerfed in the last several months, it's only shit if you're shit. If you want more attack speed, run it with either a crit build and spam FOTF for basically permanent 20% attack speed or run it with Martyr.

>>529168546
>Auric Maelstorms
>Havoc 40
I barely know what these are. I just started playing today

>>529168650
>just started playing today
The game spawns like a zillion enemies in the higher difficulties. Some weapons are really good at killing lots of them. You'll think the flamer and relic blade suck until there's enough enemies to make them really good.

>>529168165
it's used for cutting your enemies in half. Use the special power mode liberally.

>>529168650
Auric is the highest difficulty, it used to be a modifier but it's a distinct difficulty now.
Maelstrom missions are basically a mission that come with multiple additional modifiers attached to them like extra waves of certain kinds of enemies or huge chaff spawns
Havoc is kindof a mode where you work the havoc number up by doing mission after mission with increasingly harsh modifiers, 40 is the king shit number for this mode and implies the best of the best shit is needed.

>>529168650
Oh kek. It might not be performing well for you because of a lack of weapon stats and talents. There's a 10% attack speed node down towards the bottom of Zealot tree that you'll pretty much always run if that's what you meant by it being slow. When you get a full build you'll be able to get even more attack speed from either the Martyrdom keystone (not recommended if you're new) or the Blazing Piety keystone combined with the Invocation of Death talent that leads up to it making your Fury of the Faithful have a very short cooldown, thus enabling a high uptime of its 20% attack speed boost.

>>529168213
Same engine, same coding

>>529169118
impressive cope

H40 bros, what's your Arbites build look like? I wanna get back into it and really don't wanna play relic Zealot again. Should I drop some damage for more damage resist? Thinking about dropping the 3 bottom left nodes to pick up Imposing Force and Judicial Force.

>>529168650
Look man, TLDR is don't worry too much about weapons and their stats until your at level 30 and are beginning to set up maxed out weapons, your just grinding character and weapon xp right now.

a week of seeing no purg, no flamer, no dueling sword, no knife, no plasma, no shredder spam, no smite spam, no ogryns, no psygers... life is good

>>529169931
Because every match being 4 arbites with stun batons and shotguns is so much better?
I feel like a unicorn running bolt weapons.

>>529168427
Then what the actual fuck is happening? Why am I now failing them when I was doing just fine pre update. New players or smth? The ones I play with seem fine

>>529169439
Try to fit in more of the damage talents

>>529170120
Worse, Returning players, at least new players don't think they're hot shit.

>>529167004
You'll see my penance when you add more tiers, bitch. Also I have a license to fist.

>>529169439
this is a zealot build bro

>>529170214
I think the only way I could really do that (unless 75% cleave is somehow not going to help compensate for increased hit mass in high havoc) would be to drop the Kruber chare modifiers and Arbites Vigilant, but 25% strength would give damage, stagger, and cleave, so I don't know if that would really be worth the mostly conditional damage nodes I could pick up. That's my dilemma. Could you post your build so I could see what you're running?

>>529170663
But it's not a relic zealot build

>>529168941
Alright.
>>529168986
>Special Mode
Well... that's embarrassing. It looked like a power sword but I was confused when it didn't have any effects or anything. Not at all like the one in Space Marine 2. I found out how to turn it on in the keybindings menu. Oops.
>>529169030
Sounds frustrating. I'm getting beat up pretty bad in the first one right now.
>>529169104
Man, that's a lot to take in all at once. I'm just going to nod and tell you that I believe you, for the time being.
>>529169497
Honestly I don't really like any of the other ones I've got so far like the Combat axe. The Infantry Autogun is okay, though. I keep seeing people with Eviscerators and Bolters and I was hoping to get those sooner, rather than later.

I don't really understand the combat in this game. Sometimes it feels like where I hit the enemy with my sword matters, like if I aim at their head it does more damage. I could just be imagining it, though. Seems inconsistent.

>>529168326
I would really like for that to be the case. Imagine a sentient ship that protects you because it’s possessed by the soul of a relative.

For the flamer do you get interrupted bracing it if you get hit? I also notice the swapping animation changes where it's longer where my dude bumps the back of it with his fist. What's happening? I don't get weirdness with the flamer with its animations.

>>529170948
Locational damage is real but different enemies have different armor on different parts of their body, and your weapon has different damage values for different armor types, and then you have light and heavy combo patterns, some swings do better for wahcking heads because swing arcs do matter its not a 0 range gun.
and then to top it off blessings nad perks sometimes really DO help a weapon come into its own, the classic example being brutal momentum on combat axes.

>>529170948
>>529172178
Oh and I can't forget cleave, cleave is the ability for your weapon to hit an enemy and not get stopped by the enemies "mass", so hordeclear weapons generally need decent cleave so they don't get stopped after one or two enemies eat the blow.

I'd like to play Zealot but I don't have a good name for him
I was gonna go Schwarzwald because Agitator kind of reminded me of Schwarzwald from The Big O minus the intelligence, but I dunno, it just doesn't sit right

>have been using break the line since arby's came out
>respect nonce aquila but don't really like it
>try out castigator's stance because this general keeps saying it's le best
>they didn't even have the courtesy to make you interrupt immune like ogryn is, so it can't do objectives
>reduced movement penalty doesn't apply to carrying objectives either
>80% reduced damage taken, sure, and it leaves you wide open against the dozen armored fucks trying to bash your skull in, unlike break the line which knocks them on their asses every 5 seconds
>wow it restores your toughness, break the line does that too
>wow you can walk through fire, break the line can do that too
>wow you can stand in a hail of gunners that you could slide through or shield block
Am I missing something or are all the stancetards just bad at the game? It's really good for getting a res off and doing hacking puzzles under gunner fire I guess, but I would never give up my Kruber bash for that.

Why am I not seeing damage numbers in psykonium with the flamer?

>>529172834
Is this a problem with creature spawner?

>>529170948
There's a reason why you can go to the psyker lady on the ship and go into the "meat grinder" which is basically a target dummy striking area to test your weapons on various enemies with their AI turned off, the game will also helpfully tell you what kind of armour you struck when your hacking up these puppets, part of the game knowledge here is learning what special enemies have problematic armour, like how the maulers, traitor guard dudes with the two handed chainaxes, happen to have a carapace helmet on but are otherwise wearing flak so if your weapon can't handle carapace you probably shouldn't be headshotting them.

>>529172834
>>529173006
Since the patch, the game is considering it Environmental damage due to the inferno special event. You shouldn't be getting properly credited with kills in games using the Flamethrower, either.

foot knight arbitrator is definitely my favorite

>>529173615
Oh man, that is a classic fartshark fuckup.

>>529172818
>can't do objectives
you can against raged fire

>>529172818
only good as a panic button desu, the concept is that you just become damage immune to non-overheads and pull out the shotty to blast every marked special you see without caring about poxwalkers on you.
the ammo restore talent needs it's CD removed or give more ammo.

>>529172818
>Am I missing something or are all the stancetards just bad at the game?
If the ability is worse but anons are beating the game with it, doesn't that make them better than you?
I like it because it gives me basically godmode for 10 seconds.

>>529174675
yeah I like to pop it and then wade swinging into a shitton of ragers.

>>529157084
horde management, effective dodges, weapon combos, push attacks, and even grenades were incredibly important to know how to use. even conserving ammo sometimes cuz you never knew when you would get another refill

i do kinda miss how intricate it was. WHC was my goat forever and it hasnt been recreated since in darktide

>>529174658
>the concept is that you just become damage immune to non-overheads and pull out the shotty
>pull out the shotty
lol
lmao

>>529174885
>i do kinda miss how intricate it was
ratclicktards actually believe this

is veteran just useless now that arbites is out?

>>529176291
Yes, bye.

>>529176291
Veteran is still the best special sniper, arbites can reach nowhere near as much damage, and doesn't provide piss toughness. It's much easier by virtue of being much tankier however.

>>529176291
Ammo and gold toughness. Support slut veteran still has a place servicing the team.

>>529176291
>is piss toughness useless?

arbites shotguns are killing monstosities faster than a unloaded bolter its like deathknights just came out

>>529150574
> especially china. slanteyes hate jews more than hitler ever did
Not true. Chinese have a healthy reverence for Jews and even look up to them. We’re talking about the people who use the Talmud as a business manual. Hell they played a major role in helping the CCP form today.

>>529150726
Agreed, some of the meme names I saw are cool but I like fit into the 40k larp more I think

>>529155546
GO OOOOOUUUUUUTTTTT!!!!!!!!!

>>529157084
I really want to play VT again but man DT has really spoiled me with all its new mechanics and stuff. No sliding really filters me now. Makes me wonder what a VT3 would look like.

>>529178303
Ambient archers for everyone.

>>529160314
The bald head looks really weird and I don’t like the janky rusted eye blind

>>529139080
These however seemed to like my name

>>529136274
Which is good. He’s at least somewhat lore accurate now :)

>>529173615
kek

Zealot is now the 3rd best melee class

Let that sink in

>>529139080
Lol what a faggot. Bet he would be singing a different tune if he knew you were a cute girl…

>>529173615
Is this also a problem with psyker flaming?

>>529176291
Yes, now fuck off and never come back, retard

>>529140345
Will happen when get the proper Krieg class update
>>529141965
Will happen when… idk soon maybe

>>529178890
What the fuck does it want now?

>>529177521
The Maoist were propped up by jews, but the Dengists ousted them and now that they're in power, jews are considered a threat but still worth studying their underhanded means.

I never used 4chan, how use it, y what take it about?

>>529179531
Get the fuck off my website, faggot

any idea what I should name my zealot

>>529179632
Sister-Skibidi

Why is it with mods on that I can't see damage numbers from the psykhanium.

>>529179531
Eseee..Eseeeeeee... el 4chano is muy malo you havo to go backo eseeeeeee Donaldo Trumpo won ay ay ay eseeeee!

The flamer's swap speed is so bad, holy cow.

A crit charge zealot takes about as long to kill an ogryn with the thunder hammer or eviscerator as a arbites maul arbites

The eviscerator and thunder hammer are niche picks
The arbites maul is the arbites best melee weapon

A zealot needs to pick stealth or martyr to hit massive melee monster damage which can be a big sacrifice

Thank you for your attention to this matter

>>529180764
yeah ok now consider the arbites maul does it by spamming lights with confident strike and staggers them while doing it and puts on like 6 debuffs

>>529181565
honestly anon id rather break your line into a corner and snuggle up with you while we smash our lips together and have passionate lex discussions

are the servers fucking bad??????? fucking disconnected after dealing with the final boss

>>529181565
Actually this is with relentless strikes and execution

>>529181745
yeah

>>529148996
they like pits which might as well be a different species at this point

>>529148298
Maul and Fatalist are the best. I nearly went Fatalist but picked Maul.
>>529154890
Auth just sounds bland all around but the accent doesn't help

>>529147567
Cute persona! But why does your game look like that…

This shouldn´t come as a surprise, but true grit is pretty good in melee maelstrom

they should've allowed it so dogs can trigger daemonhosts it would be extremely funny

is this a good game to play without a set group if you have no mates
i'm looking for a new multiplayer game to put a lot of hours into

>>529182464
Darktide?
Yes it is

>>529182389
Don't need to, I keep coming across people in auric who just walk straight into them nonstop.

>>529181692
Go be a rapist creep somewhere else

>>529151640
Specifically it’s 98.8 percent of our base pairs with chimps. It’s 98~ percent for gorillas.

>>529182897
He's indian, he can't help it.

>>529182563
Sorry, yeah Darktide.
Cool, gonna try it tonight.
Any early advice for a complete beginner

>>529179531
Welcome Pablo. Please consider returning after a few more English lessons. :)

>>529183000
Bring something to kill specials and armored enemies
Learn to attack ranged enemies in melee by side running (running at shooters so they are at the edge of your screen) and by sliding and dodge sliding
Consider your positioning. Try not to stand where you can be cornered or might fall off a ledge
Learn to move while fighting
Consider the objectives and learn early to participate in them

replacing loading screens with cut scenes is ingenious

>>529182464
sure that's what I do, I am quickplay surfer

>>529179367
I don’t know man, maybe they secretly want to overtake them but they seem pretty buddy buddy to me as far as external relationships go

>>529124773
>>529127271
>>529127413
>>529127509
>>529127667
Interesting. Just to be clear, these aren’t the same Old Ones as in Fantasy Battle right? They’re their own thing?

What purpose does the widespread Arby shotgun have?

>>529183367
Don't listen to him
>>529183000
Go for headshots for both guns and melee
Learn to block, push
Learn dodging, and slide if you really need it
Try everything and go for weapons that you find fun
Try new characters if you're finding the current one boring, try new classes
Don't mindlessly take ammo, see if teammates need it more

>>529184025
killing more than one enemy per shot, retard

>>529184025
Evaporating mixed hordes

>>529184535
>>529184597
Can it still kill bosses and anything scarier than a rager?

>>529183367
>>529184176
listen to both desu

>>529184679
It has decent boss damage if you get electrocute on the boss, either bonking it with your maul (need Concussive) or using the dog bomb.

>>529181565
>confident strike
Who the fuck uses confident strike?

>Quickplay, 3 arby's and 1 zealot
> zealot: "I guess I'm the special one teehee"
>dies off a ledge
>alt f4
I guess he was truly "special"

>Be me: arby, rush in everywhere and kill everything, get you on your feet in three seconds
>Be the retards the game matches me with: arby, slowly snipe people while somehow losing half their health and fail at melee every time, "huh a trapper huh why's that guy on the floor huh eh huh what's going on where am I is this tiktok nurse add more fluoride to the IV huh why'd he ping that thing that heals me to full"

A new steam sale, a new batch of shitters to carry

ME UNGA!!!
TEAM BUNGA!!!

>>529185494
And it's true, every time. And you know it.

>>529185480
>DS4
>Suck
Wonder how many youtube build heroes there is in game. I just haphazardly put in points where it makes sense and make it work.

>>529185494
Me unga!!
Team also unga!!
Beat havoc 40 no downs 3 games in row!!!

>>529183000
get comfortable with your dodge and block. It won't be very relevant early on but later it becomes essential to use them both in conjunction

>>529185761
>how many
There's people that need someone to build their characters in Souls games.
So a lot of them.

Almost done with this penance, then I can go back to the good talents

>melk is.. LE BAD

>>529167004
still 6070, i'm collecting every single arbys achievement to redeem them all at once for that sweet sweet dopamine rush

>>529186987
>79% damage
B R I C K E D

>just got carried through a fucking 30; 300k damage behind everyone else
Christ, I'm so fucking out of practice. Also, fuck gas maps

>>529167004
Like 4400?
>>529186987
Correct

Don't you fucking bad gateway me 4chan

>>529182389
I understand why they didn't but I really wish we could have a toggle for that, my friend group kills everything. Also the nuncio won't piss it off either, I threw one on its head and got a good chuckle out of the daemonhost taking a nap with a loud speaker a foot from its ear

>>529186987
Yes, he is. He's my mystery curio bitch and nothing else.

>>529187916
This nigga stole the gateway too.

the thread is dead because everyone's watching saba's debut

My waifu

>>529186987
He will remain bad for as long as you can't convert melkbucks into aquilas

>>529188912
so why cant we have a decent looking face like this again?

>>529189296
my vet literally has that face
it looks decent when you can only see the eyes and vile dogshit with no helmet, like a lot of faces

>story cutscene gets interrupted because of server disconnect
>happens with every third cutscene

>>529189669
oh, is that just that one asian face? It looks way better than I remember with just the eyes visible.

Why is it that it's always the ugliest subhuman races such as amerimutts, persians, russoids and indians that complain about their games not having over-idealized kpop doll faces?

Lex-Offender? I barely know her...

>>529188875
It’s dead because the captcha is shitting out site wide lmao
>>529185494
Looks like one of those sand creatures from Star Wars that chimp out

>>529190067
why do you insist on everyone being monstrously ugly to the point of actually looking like abhumans in a setting where that is patently not the case?
this is the part where you call the player characters mutated disgusting hive worlders etc which is just untrue even if the nasty looking faces would agree with that take

>>529190401
>nooo there are pretty wahmen in warhammur!!
>posts uggos
What did he mean by this?

>>529188875
4channel is having connection issues thoughbeit

>>529190892
knees too pointy

>>529190401
>literally Darktie tier face
>shitty AI slop
>fan art
>CGI trailer slop from a terrible failed game that didin't even feel like 40k on any lever, that which was probably outsourced to some 3rd world sweat shop anyways
>Beta, who is described being exceptionally beautiful by empire standards
I wonder if the lack of taste, self-control and excessive sex drive has something to do why your kind also rapes so much more than whites. Also, I am gonna remind you that half of the Darktide faces objectively are better than what you would find by average on streets of USA.

>>529190210
Far all darktides faults I suppose it's the only good representation the lost and the damned have gotten in ages.

>>529188875
Who's Sabat?

>>529190210
GW should make a story about Nurgle coming up with a disease that causes massive flatulence.

>>529191746
>>fan art
that's the coverart from a novel...

>>529191746
That fan art is literally the cover for an arbites omnibus, you flaming faglord

>>529191974
>AI slop
That's also a novel cover. A new one for a very old Arbeetus novel if my memory serves.

>did a bunch of havoc 40s
>stressed out, but really fun, clean runs with everyone being good at their roles
>had the first good dedicated support zealot I've seen in ages
>fucking martyrdom crusher lmao
>did jack shit for damage but did literally everything right, it was a dream
>ended up having top damage every run with flamer spam
So I got stuck in an absolutely atrocious position while trying to push for a hexbound daemonhost, decided FUCK IT that thing needs to die because I know my team can't push up in time, and threw an immolation grenade followed by chorus to buy time. Got pushed out, threw another for good measure.
Turns out that 2 immolation grenades are exactly enough to kill all the psykers. These things are fucking amazing, and all of you coping with knives are objectively wrong, fuck you. I'm never going back.

Grit and weird faces fit 40k aesthetic, but people calling all the faces unironically ugly genuinely haven't seen real adult women (besides their moms) in a while.

>>529192380
>>literally Darktie tier face
Also that one is like... WELL above darktide...

>>529192698
Talk about uncanny valley...

>>529192631
Thats the fucking point, who the fuck wants to see real women

>>529192631
Meth addict face.

>>529192698
Yea, but I wouldn't mind having the females look like >>529192698

>>529192910
Realism is immersion. Imperium is literally 3rd world shithole with pollution and malnutrition up the ass everywhere. If someone there looks healthy, well-fed and manicured, I want it to make sense. Not get pandered to like I'm some low IQ subhuman that consumes cheap slop entertainment like a hedonistic, easily manipulated pig.

I like my men gritty and women pretty. Simple as.

I like my men and women twinky and pretty.

>>529192631
Sure but *all* of them are like that, there's like one acceptable face so you see literally every female character using the exact same face and in a multiplayer game this is what we call "fucking up" if the usage is skewed that badly.

>>529194006
>Scibidinus Latrinarius

>>529191746
All the shit in the image on the left is official shit made or sanctioned by GW.
The only reason why Darktide has uggos is because fatshark is swedish and they are all mentally poisoned by woke faggotry.

>>529194006
>FLUSH THE HERETICS OUT, BATTLE BROTHER!

>>529193521
what kind of fucking fantasy shithole do you live in?
>media literate, obese mutt 40kek fans be like: yeah women looking like this is good and realistic ackshually

>>529190067
I don't disagree with you but the faces in darktide are uniquely and intentionally fucking disgusting looking. I don't play female characters but it bothers with the male ones too.
The new arbites face is the literal only one that doesn't look like a hormonally defunct person

>>529194408
Average mutt faces so yeah

>>529194408
#5, #9, and #10 are actually pretty normal
#6 and #4 are black
The rest are kinda fantastically ugly.

>>529194630
#9 is zola's face and looks nightmarish from any other angle

>>529194792
She's hive trash though.

>>529194316
>it's DEI to have more artistic depth than just gooning
Fucking neck yourself, shitskin.

Reminder

>>529194843
You're ALL hive trash. That's kinda par for the course for most 40k. Unless you're a noble, from a paradise world, or from a death world.

>>529193521
Let's not pretend 40k is above pandering
Even the fat fuck in this screenshot is more attractive than the Darktide mutts

>>529194931
>artistic depth
lol

I don't think I've ever been as passionate about the enforcement of a tax code.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI_3zvxwugY

>>529194408
I think all of these are varying degrees of ugly, but not necessarily in a bad way. Most of these are pretty memorable and look like they have character. I chose 5 for my agitator zealot because that precious retard sounds like she'd have exactly that kind of face. Y'know, almost pretty but still a dysgenic crackhead.

I do wish Darktide had actually pretty faces to choose from, but I'm pretty happy with my crackhead granny and wouldn't swap it for a prettier one.

>>529194934

>>529195119
Honestly I suspect the excuse was just that, an excuse, and the dev team are just shit at making faces.
>>529195156
Yep, there it is, the only female face that you'll ever see, 2 is alright if your making a black lady I guess.

>>529188875
Saba? Is there some new Fateshit out or something?
I've just been doing extremely low level Havocs with my friends

>>529194934
Which is just the male version of the female head everyone uses

>>529195372
Male faces do feel a little more flexible in general since you can stick facial hair on them.

>>529195337
it's gura's indie debut

>>529195156
I guess I'm rather unique with my preference...