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>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC and PS5 where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible within a procedurally generated area while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations a planet can be completely liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is the origin of the setting and basic gameplay formula of HELLDIVERS 2. The major difference is that HELLDIVERS is a top-down shooter, its mechanics being based primarily on Arrowhead's first game Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/

>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
May 13-20 1.003.000 (Heart of Democracy) https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516335345719051928
Jun 12 Force of Law https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHuOJoeXdYA


>LATEST PATCH
Jun 24 1.003.104 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339151333753417

*reclaims 34 GB from Sweden*

the only good thing the AI poster has created were the pronebone ass shots.
everything else, not so much. egoistical tranny behaviour of trying to make everything about himself.

Nerf purifier
Nerf gas nades
Nerf cuck chair
Nerf building destruction

Buff flag

>>529183120
I would use that if it wouldn't fuck with my linux dual boot

I'm over here stroking my flag I got lotion on my flag
I'm just waving my flag
I'm patriotic as fuck man, I'm a helldiver

New lobby for new bread

D10 Bots or Bugs

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244724193574/76561197999417031

>>529183376
2/4

>>529183376
3/4

>>529183376
3/4 LETS GO CHUDS

>>529183120
Won't this make the game run much worse with way more stutters since it'd have to constantly uncompress files before loading them into RAM that would've been ready for reading at a moment's notice otherwise?

>>529184361
No

>>529184361
the files are already in archives that require decompressing to load, it changes nothing but the size of the archives

>>529184563
How the fuck does that work then?
>>529184613
You can't just change the size for free, the smaller you make it the more computational power it takes to decompress.

The Wasp is killer againt bots.

>>529184712
Magick.

>>529184909
I miss when jet troopers were just a basic unit for bots.

>>529185115
Oops didn't mean to quote

I'm encountering less shiters in Pubs as of late.
Are players just becoming more experienced in the game, or is it because old er players from other regions are back playing the game again?

>>529185716
SAAAAAAAAAAAR

>eagles are supposed to be instant call in support
>orbitals are supposed to be the overwhelming fire power but take forever to arrive due to travel time
>500KG shits all over every single shot orbital right now

if I could change one thing, I'd make orbitals have a tighter cooldown bigger BOOM but return the 4 second call in time, then I'd have 500's call in be like 1 second but tone down the boom a bit and remove the building destruction tier it has.

that and I'd add an instant call in eagle EMS strike

Yes I am a botchad
Yes I main railgun and use the edgy pitch black night skin for my diligence

>To better counter the Jet Brigade’s newest capabilities, High Command has authorized the AIRBURST ROCKET LAUNCHER to be made available fleetwide for the next 24 hours.
Democracy help you in ransoms.

>stealth buffed bile titan hp from 6000 to 6500

what a strange change

>join quick match jet brigade level 10
>one guy is lvl 24, the other is lvl 30
>disconnect
tired of this shit

>>529187509
Why not just host?

>>529177373
gg

solo 10 jeet bot eradicate is kino

where apc
where tank
where rest of ayys

>>529188608
Cut content

>another unwwinable ten gorillion strenght attack
Joel! Joel! More railroading!
>but muh gambit
We all know nobody actually does these lmao

>>529188608
they can't even get a shitty buggy working right on their terrain, what makes you think something that's even less agile is going to be of any use?

>>529182616
Back when the gun was considered shit, I told people that it wasn't really that bad and only need a slight buff to be extremely strong. They buff it greatly so it is basically busted. Of course, Everytime someone bring up how it should get nerfed, people come out and say no more nerf

steam://joinlobby/394510/109775244738709475/76561199108851031
hd1, d15 cyborgs inna city

>>529188798
>what makes you think something that's even less agile is going to be of any use?
but people don't like the FRV because they can't handle how agile it is. surely something less agile would be better for them

>>529185716
저 게이 놈들이 우리 남자들을 다 막아버렸어!

>try to do something different and use a new loadout
>immediately switch back to the dickle after ~2 mission
Every time, man

>>529189315
2/4

>>529189835
it's a very potent and versatile weapon, so I understand
same reason why I just gotta redeem autocannon at least once per op

>>529189835
True and real. Love me dickle. The only downside is the fashion restriction if you like to go all in on it.

>>529185115
>I liked hitting Alt+S literally every time I shot a trooper

>>529190217
jfc start killing bots before they're on top of you

>>529190217
Remember when fire damage was basically instant death to divers? Fucking jihad jeets were dangerous as fuck

My jeet loadout that fits the specifications of >>529180931
Diligence
Talon
Thermite/HE grenades
Heavy fortified
Commando
120mm/walking barrage
Jump pack/hellbomb backpack
Car/rocket sentry

Interchangeable based on how mobile you need to be

>>529190638
Now it's only insta death because your ally has nothing but explosive weapons

>>529190694
Whoops I mean >>529180710

>>529190616
>tell us you weren't there without telling us you weren't there

>>529191056
I was there and made sure chumps like you didn't die twice as much to jet troopers. Every half awake player just shot them out of the sky or well before they aggroed.

>>529190217
shitter

>>529188959
It was pretty niche on bots, solid for when they were grouped up.
They need to tone down the ammo economy. What is it like 8 x 15 shots?
fucking rediculous. Should be 3 shots per full charge just to put it on par with the crossbow.

>Another forced loss MO because Joel knows nobody ever does gambits
Fire this petty faggot already.

don't know where.
but when? soon.

>>529192235
he just wants to railroad into the bot megacity event and thinks people won't care because there are new units

>>529187036
I just started using the diligence for bots too, didn’t think I’d love it so much. Hard to go back to the Reprimand

I use an angled foregrip and flash hider

>>529191678
Well, when it was roughly the same damage and AOE as the punisher plasma, people complain because it fires slower and need charge but don't understand that it has much higher ammo cap and can put out more volume consistently

>>529187036
Cam diligence one shot devas headhaot now? Or still 2 shot

>>529192594
me while weapon customization allowed anons from all over to discover the awesome power of popping clankers with marksman rifles
make sure to give all the other ones a try too, each has merit even constitution

>the bots can somehow jury rig a jump pack to a hulk in under a year with stolen technology
>we still havent figured out a way to repair or re-arm our exosuits

i would like to log an official complaint.

Post in the previous thread was talking about how dogshit the Warrant was, and how to fix it >>529044976 The numbers were bullshit OP, so here's my take:

>13+1 round magazine, 7 spare magazines
>programmable ammo, all comes from the same magazine
>default: standard, AP2 with 95/25 damage
>armor piercing: AP3 with 85/15 damage
>concussive: AP2 with 70/12 damage, each round inflicts 10 explosive damage AP2 with 35 stagger force in a 2 meter radius
>flak: AP2 with 50/6 damage, but each round has a proximity fuse that creates a 25 damage AP2 explosion with 3 meter radius and 15 pieces of 20/3 AP2 shrapnel, each shot consumes 2 ammo (the mechanic already exists with the Wasp)
>incendiary: AP2 with 65/10 damage, but each round can set the target on fire at four times the buildup of an individual Cookout buckshot
>grenade: AP3 150 damage explosion in 2.5 meter radius, 30 demolition force so it can destroy spawners and cargo container doors, but each shot consumes 5 ammo, making a shot with less decreases the damage and demolition force of the explosion linearly

So now you have a utility pistol that's decent at chaff killing, has an AP3 option, a crowd control option that can work on more than one target at a time, a crowd clear/anti-air option that eats more ammo, a fire damage option, and a utility explosive option that's not as good as the Grenade Pistol. All of the options are still generally worse than what you'd get with existing pistols, but you can have all the options at hand on a single weapon while still not being anywhere as good as a primary.

>fix illuminate phasing into the ground and over terrain
>now the bots are jumping into terrain
It's always something with these devs.

>>529193508
>See jeet bot redeem his jump
>He phases into the floor when landing
>Hear a "NOOOOOOOO" fading away as he falls into the abys

>>529193434
it will never compare to dredd vs death kino
>HIGH EX
>ASSUME THE POSITION CREEP
>THAT'S 10 YEARS IN THE CUBES CREEP
>YOU'RE TAKING THE BIG RIDE
>WE'RE GONNA THROW AWAY THE KEY

>>529193508
It’s better when the jeets get the zoomies and ohk you with their speedblitz.

>accedentally run in front of teammate while they're mag dumping with the pacifier
>eat like 90% of the magazine because fat ass heavy armor
>survive with 2% of my HP left

man, i knew the pacifier was weak, but i didnt know it was that weak.

>>529193434
I would prefer if the Warrant had swappable ammo rather than the guided gimmick, but I think having that many ammo types would be more hassle than it's worth. Two or three should honestly be the limit imo.

>>529194245
It doesn't do a lot of damage, the whole point of the Pacifier is to lock down whatever you're shooting at so that it can be killed by actual weapons.

anyone ever watch footage of their gameplay n like slow it down frame by frame?

It's kinda cool seeing the breaker just cut off limbs when I miss center mass, n it gave me just enough time to follow up with my next shot to kill them. From what I see though ergo is miles better than recoil reduction, unless your ergo is high enough already.

Tight choke seems like the obvious choice for breaker, because it's better to cut off a limb when you miss than it is to hit for half their HP.
Punisher probably could benefit from duck bill though just because the mass stagger.

>>529194245
50 damage is anemic but even if it were 20-30% higher it would still simply not be a weapon to magdump with. You get the 4x scope and stun that utterly annoying shield dev or rocket chicken shooting from an elevated position +100m away. Then scrap it with your Verdict. It's not useful for dps, inferior at close quarter stun compared to nades or Halt, so use it to stun something that's far away and about to unleash bullshit. It's the monkey's paw wish for that one idiot who wanted long range stun for reasons.

>>529194535
yeah

>>529189315
2/4 again

>>529194535
like fuck man this shit looks so much cooler when you see it in slow motion. It's crazy how much detail is in like every frame.

>>529193364
saar please understand, they are a hyperintelligent cybernetic hivemind, we are space India with too much dead weight from the low castes

>>529194535
I do, in pretty much every game.

>>529193364
efficient socialism vs capitalist profitmaxxing

>>529195006
people need to bring more railguns man, hulks score way too much

>>529195006
that was cool

Lobby doko?

>>529195440
have you seen the average RG user? niggas can't hit hulk eyes for shit
even then HMG with PP is probably better if you can aim and don't just stand there like the headless retard in that webm

>>529195779
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244747342342/76561198088743007

>Another forced loss MO

I'm tired bwos...

>>529196493
3/4

>>529195440
why would I ever bring something that gets hard walled by tanks and striders

>>529196493
full

>>529196705
Same... Nobody ever does gambits. I know its the fault of both sides but its the GM's responsibility to adapt to what their players do, not the other way around. Refusing to accept that nobody ever does gambits (especially after the unnecessary nerf), it comes off as malicious, stubborn, and petty on Arrowheads part.

>free airburst launchers while up against a subfaction thats all about getting up in your face
The fucking swiggers are mocking us.

>>529197039
it's quite useful against those enemies retard

I haven't played a in a while . What the fuck are these gambits you all mention?

>>529197460
If you liberate a planet an enemy is launching an invasion from, it stops the invasion. For reason joel has a fucking hard on for making them mandatory to win bot defense MOs.

>>529197564
So basicly we are fighting on the wrong planet?

>>529197564
So what we need to attack Duma Tyr instead of defending Oslo station? How does that make any fucking intuitive sense? No wonder people aren't doing that.

>>529197718
Pretty much. But the blob always tries to defend the planet which is rigged to lose so bot defense MOs almost always lose because of it.
>>529197820
>How does that make any fucking intuitive sense?
Youre expecting Sweden to think?

>>529197718
It all depends on if the gambit planet can be captured faster than the enemy invasion can succeed. Either way, it depends on situational awareness and player coordination outside of the game itself, so the point is moot.

>>529197969
>Turns out the mishmash of random shit and bullet sponges isnt popular
Who couldve guessed?

>>529197564
How the fuck is that even possible? Liberation of a planet even if we dogpile on it, typically takes more than 24 hours doesn't it? The defense mission would have been lost by then.

>>529198057
People just want to turn their brain off and dump their mag. They probably think jeet brigade is the best shot every because they can just explode hulks

>>529198134
Joel likes to force us to lose planets to the bots. No idea why. Its probably his favorite faction so he wants his favorite faction to be the "most heckin awesome faction that beats the players!"

>>529196705
>gimmick of jeets is supposed to be that they start with overwhelming strenght but get weaker and weaker with every battle due to attrition
>we're four battles deep into the current jeet arc including one victory for us
>jeets still get to throw super high invasions that we can't possibly stop around
I wish Joel would at least play by his own retarded rules, but then he wouldn't be the total hack that he is

>>529198335
If that is his favorite faction, why did he allow it to be nerfed to this baby state

>>529195006
Is he okay....?

>>529198159
Bugs are better for that imo. When I fight bugs, I almost always have a good time. Same with bots. Squids? I feel noticeably annoyed every time i play them. Theyre just obnoxious to play. Not hard, but fighting them just isnt fun or enjoyable the same way bots and bugs are.

>>529198427
So he can play it. The Galactic War map isnt at all reflective to how effective players actually are. How do we have a 90+% success rate but still lose? Thats how Joel copes. Its the same cope as "helldivers have an average survival rate of 2 mins" Its just shitter devs making up cope to justify how bad they are.

>>529198510
Well, that is because you can't turn your brain off and go brr with w/e you have completely with squid. It's not even that hard.
Bot used to take brain to play too.

>>529198510
>turn corner
>six fleshmobs
>sigh and prepare to chew through six BTs worth of HP with no weakpoints to exploit
>just mindlessly bullethose them down because that's the only play if you don't bring an AC/ABRL/Eruptor
Squids really are the pure tedium faction

>>529198701
I misread. My bad.

>5 planets lost at this pace
At least 3 filler MOs to clean this one up, baby

>>529180710
liberator
plasma pistol
stun nades
heavy armor
strafing run
gatling barrage
railgun
jump pack

>>529198057
This.
Well it's not a random mish mash, but the bullet spongey nature just sucks. Enemies just don't react to your guns, feel like I'm just holding down m1 until they die.

Bugs it's like,
>Shoot a bug
>Gets staggered
>Might lose a limb
>Oh there's medium armor on that guy
>That bug jumps at me
>That bug needs a bit more stagger
>These bugs explode and chain detonate

Ayys
>Zombies were so boring that they had to give zombies slightly different HP to mix things up
>Click center torso and magdump
>Headshot if you have the gun for it
>This basically defines every illuminate unit

>>529198834
>jeet MO hits
>lose 5 planets in 1 MO
>retake them over 3 MOs
>another jeet MO hits
>lose 5 planets in 1 MO
>retake them over 3 MOs
>another jeet MO hits

>>529199195
Means I get more planets to dive on, don't see the problem

Jeet brigade factories literally exists for Joel to push the "they are getting too much progress on the bot front" button

>>529199316
>"What do you mean sucking cock is bad? Means I get more protein, dont see the problem"

If a DM can't adapt to their players retardation is he a bad DM? It's clear we can't handle multiple defence missions at the same time without a big fucking arrow saying "Attack here"

>>529198760
to be fair.
>encounter a BT
>didn't bring AT options to kill it
>have to mag dump to kill it

It's basically the same logic, sept you can CC fleshpounds with gas.
Honestly the problem is that they're not weak enough to explosives like nades. If an impact shaved off 4000 HP on a flesh mob, they'd be a lot more fun to fight.

>>529199712
>If a DM can't adapt to their players retardation is he a bad DM?
Yes. Because the GM is supposed to be skilled/creative enough to flip things on the fly. Inability to do that just means youre a shit GM who wants to railroad shit.

>>529199712
I honestly don't know at this point. They don't wanna do anything interesting with MO's unless it's showing of new content.

I don't think anyone really gives a shit about the MO they just wanna fight new things.

YUUL NYEVER DESTWOY OUW WAY OF WIFE!!

>>529199753
BTs don't spawn in chaff numbers like the fleshmob does unless you're rimming a titan hole
And even then there's at least weakpoints to hit, all you do with fleshmobs is ammo dump centermass because they have no weakpoints, nothing.

>requires 104% of all players on this one planet
uuuuuuhhhhhhhh

>>529199907
I think they should stop spamming filler MOs so much and just let people play the game. Save MOs for something big or directly followed up by something big within 2 MOs.

>T2ARD
We were so close to greatness...

>>529199712
>It's clear we can't handle multiple defence missions at the same time without a big fucking arrow saying "Attack here"
Because it's completely rigged? When you have 30k divers on a single planet, that progress bar should be going up spectacularly but it barely does anything.

>>529200047
just gambit bro )))))
despite no in-game way for the community to communicate that and no flashing lights and big arrows on the map to tell the mob were to go

>>529200047
And yet we have a free win but retards ignore it

>>529200293
>fire tornado shithole
hmm, I wonder why nobody goes there...

>>529200001
There are weapons that benefit from just shitting out dps without needing to hit weak point. Those weapons/support are good against fleshmob. Why does every enemies have to be the same when weapons have different strength and weakness. You just refuse to use different load out and tactics from what you have been using all along. Besides, fleshmob themselves are melee only and you can avoid a lot of them without issues.

Hope you're ready for the third defence of Malevelon Creek.

>>529200001
>all you do with fleshmobs is ammo dump centermass because they have no weakpoints, nothing.

You could bring flamethrower, grenade launcher, airburst, wasp and kill them pretty efficiently.
Hell a lot of primaries kill them pretty efficiently too. Eruptor, crossbow, purifier, Plasma, breaker do it in a couple seconds.

if you never brought AT or bile titan killing strategems, you would say the same thing.
It takes you 40 seconds to kill a single bile titan with a liberator.
>BTs don't spawn in chaff numbers like the fleshmob does
you get like 3 of them per breach.


I think people just don't like gear checks.

You stupid fucks, there's still at least four days to do three more defenses. The biggest threat has always been the Jet Brigade, remove them from the map and the rest of the invasions will be level 20 at the very highest, which the DSS can deal with easily. Doesn't matter that we lose Oslo Station and Wezen, at the current rate the next Jet Brigade attack is going to be a guaranteed win, and then we just need two more successful defenses over two and a half days.

>>529183120
what program is this and what does it do?

>>529200464
This time It'll be the Disney theme park version for r*dditors to soipog over.

>>529194812
It's designed to be run with a guard dog who kills things while you use the stun to keep things from eating your face. It's not the best weapon, but it's actually very serviceable on Predator strain bugs for this reason.

>>529200196
Only percentages of the playerbase matters for liberation rate, not total numbers.
Which means that more players is actually worse for us

It's crazy that the complaints about fleshmob is basically the same complaints about berserkers used to get. Look at how they butchered the berserkers and how useless they are as units now.

>>529200492
Only cost us 5 planets to stop 4 attacks. This truly is a victory for Super Earth

>>529200854
Its almost like Arrowhead is bad at enemy design.

>>529200489
Or you could add actual fucking weakpoints to them so fighting fleshmobs with normal guns isn't an exercise in tedium. Because right now it's either
>bring the right weapon and they die without a second thought
or
>spend 15 seconds mindlessly magdumping because FUCK YOU for not bringing explosive cheese

>>529200492
>remove the jeet brigade
And how are we supposed to do that? Review bomb the steam page again and send angry DMs to all the devs until they cave?

So after this MO we'll fuck off to the squid side to stop 6 more unwinnable attacks, leaving the bot front to rot until the incel corps takes 4 more planets. Then we'll either havs our epic SE or Malevelon 3.0 MO that only 30% of the community will play while the rest fucks off to bugs. Remember the gloom btw?

>>529200489
Gear checks are bad game design.

>>529201037
It's more like players are upset that any unit can inconvenient them

>>529199712
Yes. They need new galactic war mechanics, and they need them to be STUPIDLY obvious to the player. Their in-game readability is SO bad right now it's honestly impressive how un-intuitive it is.
>>529200173
This is also correct. They spam so many fucking Major Orders it feels like it's completely lost all meaning. There's no reason to care about any of it, not like the rewards matter.

I don't have great solutions here but it's obvious there's a problem when your playerbase actively refuses to bother to do anything else other than "attack major order planet" or "attack the planet closest to super earth" EVERY TIME.

Fleshmobs just need to actually fucking react to stun and stagger. It's retarded that the only CC that is actually worthwhile on them is the one that's already the best (Gas)

>>529201292
Exactly. Why would anyone want to feel inconvenienced by a video game? Loads of people play harder games and enjoy it. Arrowhead is just bad at game design.

>>529194812
I wished for ap3 lib conc, and this is basically it.
It works, but the stun effect is really glitchy.

Honestly my problem with most stun tools are that they're just innefficient with what they're supposed to do.

>Ems strike takes forever to come in, gets caught on litterally everything, and enemies that walk through it don't get stunned reliably
>Urchin takes two pulses to stun heavies, doesn't reliably stun fleshpounds, and the aoe is too small to stun lock chaff running at you
>Pacifier and pummeler take way too many bullets to stun shit, so by the time you stun it it either hits you or is dead

Like you look at gas?
>Applies >Instantly<
>lingers in a cloud
>Lasts 4 - 10 seconds after applying
>staggers things half the time
>deals damage to whittle down enemies so you can forget about them
>Doesn't prohibit you from moving through it


Like gas is amazing, gas works perfectly and everyone would shit their pants if these guns shot gas bulets. It's a problem with the stun itself.

>>529201436
Stun works when they aren't charging

>>529201469
>everyone would shit their pants if these guns shot gas bulets
what do you mean "would"
we're gonna

>>529201491
Which is again, retarded. There's no reason stun deserves to be fucked over like that given how it's associated stratagems and weapons are already not used.

>>529201068
>Shoot charger center mass
>they die without a second thought
or
>shoot their backside spending 10 seconds mindlessly magdumping because FUCK YOU for not bringing explosive cheese

>>529201161
>MO after MO where we just lose planets
>every faction creeps closer to Super Earth
>the blob continues to be utterly retarded and slams their head against high resistance planets
>the liberation system is so fucked that we will never retake any lost territory without an explicit MO to do so
>Joel is such a fucking petulant swede that he cannot fathom changing the system so that it doesn't require 70% of the active playerbase to reasonably take a single planet
>he also can't bring himself to even give us the thought to act independently and must railroad us down his set forced loss path every single time
This galactic war shit could have been run so much better if the dipshit in charge wasn't retarded.

>>529200880
>he thinks the Galactic War is an us vs. them scenario
You stupid fucking idiot.

>>529201292
Games should feel like a challenge, not an inconvenience.

>>529201728
sorry forgot to add shoot charger center mass with eat*

>>529201436
The worst part
That's by design
They intentionally want only gas to work on them, likely because the rest of the faction folds in half if you throw stuns at them. Which is fair honestly. Like it's disgusting how strong stun nades are against harvesters.

>>529201794
Players treat challenges like inconvience. They just want to heckin mag dump and enjoy power fantasy.

>>529201728
>comparing a heavy to chaff

The reason enemies like pre-nerf zerkers and Fleshmobs are so hated is because players are rarely in proximity with each other to actually coordinate fire, and splitting up is too easy with too little punishment

>>529200854
What do you mean, they're perfectly fine now.
>Did tickle damage
>but soaked damage making them just a mindless damage check
now
>Roam in packs
>Actually give you a good reason to bring close range cc and damage on bots
>Do fuck you scary damage

So what exactly was the point of the gloom?

>>529201068
>completely pop a head?
immediate bonus damage dealt to main, deletes a vision cone of which every head should have one independently if they don't already
>lop off arm?
starts some ticking bleed to main, not lethal in itself
>smash kneecaps?
reduced to crawling or three leg furry running, bleed ticking

fleshmobs are now on some interactive mechanical level fixed

do not redeem the eagle storm sarrrr

>>529201925
>gear check unit that requires a support weapon to kill efficiently

sounds like a heavy unit.

>bot jetpacks themselves into the ground
lmao

>>529201902
>making sweeping judgements about a large group of people that you yourself are ostensibly part of
peak pseud behavior.

>>529202110
That's really all they need. Hell, even something as simple as popping enough heads resulting in an instant death would be fine.

>>529202170
Too bad it spawns in chaff numbers.

>>529202014
Helldivers isn't a team based game.
Otherwise they would have buffed stim pistol, and made reloading allies without taking their backpack easier.
Hell 90% of the equipment is designed to TK.

>>529202110
I'd have it so shooting fleshmobs in the legs until the muscle is completely stripped slows them, and gets worse if you get both legs. I'd also have it so shooting fleshmobs legs with heavy pen or AT can destroy their legbone entirely and force them to crawl after you, getting slower as you take off their arms.

>>529202267
>Hell, even something as simple as popping enough heads resulting in an instant death would be fine.
I'm honestly convinced people are wrong about headpop.
If you throw an impact at them and don't break any heads, they die to the same number of shots with a primary. But if you throw an impact and pop heads I swear they die faster. It's hard to tell though.

>Too bad it spawns in chaff numbers.
Considering you can kill like 3 of them with a single mag of the grenade launcher or the auto cannon. It makes sense they spawn in higher volume.

>>529201902
I mean you're right. I like jeet brigade because shooting a grenade or throwing an impact causes a cascade of explosions.

Illuminate if I throw a grenade or something I might kill some zombies and see 9 skulls pop up.
It's just really unreactive and boring.

Lobbies? I'm high as fuck and wanna play with my bros

>>529202859
no lobbies we're complaining

>>529202325
>Helldivers 2 isn't a team based game.
FTFY. Helldivers 1 struck a good balance of being difficult and engaging while also making it so teamplay was frequently employed because you were literally forced to be together. Enemies could fuck you up very quickly but you could do the same. Helldivers 2 drops the shared perspective but gives nothing in exchange to encourage being close to your teammates besides having an extra gun with you, and when they make enemies that require multiple players to defeat the playerbase kvetches.

>How much bloom do you want?
>ALL OF THEM PLUS TAX

>>529202086
Dropped plot point because they realized they would need to put in effort for different gloom bugs or even new units. So far you get a shitty reskinned bile warrior

>>529203201
seriously, what the hell did they do to the bloom

>>529203165
eeyup
The cursed truth is that we need more enemies that ragdoll lock you in melee like pic related, so you need a buddy to shoot them off you. Impaler was a good start, because those tentacles would rape you if you were by yourself.

>>529202086
they want to cook up a cool new bug to spawn in there but are having big trouble making it to a satisfactory end. maybe it's the hive lord. maybe something else or multiple. but progress can't be good otherwise we'd have gotten something by now.

Dicklefags, do you need the fire armor to make it work? Like is it just a QoL or is it take it unless you want to suffer type of thing

>>529203201
>>529203398
I think theres something fucky going on where if you crash your bloom gets set to max values. Because it was fine for me, then I crashed and I looked like I was in a jj abrams movie.

>>529202031
>Slow melee unit with trex range melee
>No armor and not enough hp
>Just instantly fold to any fire
Yea, this is what buff begger shitter think being an okay enemy unit

>>529203567
my guess is that no one likes being unable to see, and the gloom was basically just that as their entire gimmick

Watch after this MO is over, botfags is going back to Vernen Wells

>>529203808
they also originally intended to make visor attributes including augmented vision but progress is again nigh nonexistent. again something they would have liked to make and every player would appreciate but it just won't work out.

>>529202594
You can look at the fucking data mines yourself. The heads are just ablative armor to the main with 100% transfer. People theorize the reason explosives are good against them is because shitty Swede coding is resulting in the explosion hitting the heads and main for a damage multiplication.

>>529203505
Nigga, I was meleeing these fuckers off air before they could pounce me, AI, human, didn't make a difference.
Appreciate your idea of enemies that are supposed to make team work non-optional though.

>>529203793
>Just instantly fold to any fire
By the time you see them, theres about 6 of them and they're in your face.
If you don't kill them, they flush you out of melee and the rest of the faction guns you down.

They are perfectly fine, if they didn't die to bullets you'd be forced to bring gas/stun to just trivialize them. Just like fleshpounds.
However the player has a choice to be good at aiming, or to take CC options.

>Solotranny runs off
>Gets pinned by robodog and starts getting fucked in the ass
>He rage quits
Know what? This is actually a good idea. Ship it. Until we all realize that SVEEEDDEN think there should be 8 of them up all at once.

Too many soloniggers ITT shame.

>>529204119
>By the time you see them
Are you blind or something. How do they just get to you? They took forever to get to you and they all fold if you shoot them. Even DCS can one shot headshot them. They can barely catch up even if you shoot while moving backward. They die instantly to any AOE as well. Berserkers used to be able to tank an eagle airstrike. They are basically devastator without amor or gun

>>529200047
They really want that oil

>>529204372
I solofag if the team is hyperfocusing on bot drops or breach fights instead of doing the objectives

>>529204434
I mean they are devastator without armor or gun now. They used to be provided a unique challenge on the bot side. Now they are just the shittiest mid tier enemy in the game

>>529197126
huh

>>529204434
>Are you blind or something. How do they just get to you?
They typically come in through bot drops that land right ontop of you.

That and in my experience people shoot the guys shooting you first, then they deal with the zerkers when they're up close. I don't think I've seen anyone snipe zerkers first as they move around too much.

>>529197126
>malicious, stubborn, and petty
You just described Joel

just reform leviathans into a 40min mission in which you have to kill a small family of them, challenging you to make a loadout that can nuke the levis in seconds but also be really good against regular squid bullshit during and afterwards. there now everyone looks forward to mowing down leviathans because they'll be rewarded with the dopamine tingles of quik exp.

>>529200047
>STILL doesn't know how jet brigade invasion MO's work
just give them the squid great host fleet HP bar UI element already joel

>>529202086
Keep you from pushing bugs off the map :)

>>529202859
Here you go
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244759047127/76561198073214698
Bot 10

>>529201068
>>spend 15 seconds mindlessly magdumping
once again it must be said fleshmobs are the solofag filter. if you work with your team and combine your DPS together fleshmobs die fast even without any explosive weapons

>>529205118
anon, it's a chaff mob

>free airburst launcher
Erm....based?

>>529202594
>I'm honestly convinced people are wrong about headpop.

>>529203398
Got any mods installed? I had some issues with it when I had the arrow mod installed.

>>529204982
1/4

>>529205118
>solofag filter.
Nobody wants to deal with them in my experience. Even in groups most people just dont bother with them. Theyre not a fun enemy to fight.

>>529204982
>>529205540
timed out

>>529205682
really?? hmmm
Rehostan: steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244759822799/76561198073214698

Id rather deal with 8 bile titans than deal with 3 fleshmobs.

>>529205873
Even pre-nerf titan?

>>529202594
>I'm honestly convinced people are wrong about headpop.
wrong about what? it's not a kill weakspot, it just literally transfers 100% of dmg take to main body

>>529205326
I don't think popping every head kills em, but I think it deals damage to main when the headpop occurs.

>>529205851
2/4
! ! !

>>529202594
>Considering you can kill like 3 of them with a single mag of the grenade launcher or the auto cannon. It makes sense they spawn in higher volume.
>have to take explosive weapons to deal with yet another enemy that is only really countered by explosive weapons
you mean like every fucking single faction and enemy in the entire game
nice loadout variety

>>529205873
just use a laser cannon

>>529205967
I feel like taking the time to aim at heads, as well as flank fleshmobs to pop the ones on their back, should be rewarded.

>>529205951
>bts being literally unkillable was a nerf, not a bugfix

>>529206219
>Just mindlessly hold down M1 with
What a diverse method of strategy this enemy offers!

>>529205994
it doesn't. I took extreme care not to shoot anything that wasn't an intact head and I still had to put in 2000 more damage worth of shots on the now headless body to actually kill it

>>529206387
use the air-burst launcher then you miserable faggot

imagine if the devs werent so fucking lazy

>>529205851
full

>>529205967
>it's not a kill weakspot, it just literally transfers 100% of dmg take to main body

That's what I thought to.
But if that was the case throwing something like an impact on the front side would transfer about 1,200 damage to main.
(300 x 4 (reduced by 25% due to the explosive resistance)).
That or stuff like dynamite would transfer 2100, if not double that due to the massive blast radius.
Then it would shorten the amount of shots to kill by 20%+ in the worst scenario.

But when I tested this, it took me exactly the same amount of shots to kill the fleshmob as it did without throwing an impact.
I probably need to do more testing and record some videos, but it doesn't seem like heads properly transfer explosive damage until you pop them.

>>529206371
It was a nerf as well.
BT should take 2 headshot AT to kill but it took sometimes 3. After nerf, a single AT can kill a BT, which is lame. It is as strong as a basic charger. Also, the whole body became AP4.

>>529206534
>Kill your teammates!
So my options are getting tk'd by people or mindlessly holding down M1? Good enemy.

>>529206720
I miss when biletitans took one recoiless shot and a rail gun to the head to kill. That was fun.

>>529206780
If if you aren't a turbo retard then you can avoid doing so.
Just use the GL then. It takes about less than a mag for one and yes I can dump the whole mag in 2 sec

>>529206943
>If if you aren't a turbo retard then you can avoid doing so.
Yes, its my fault the people on my team decide to shoot an airburst at me.

>random d8 defence
>host hides on the raised landing pad firing down
>keeps calling supplies on him so we have to go all the way up there to get them
>he fires airburst right next to us occasionally tking the rest of the team
>jeet bot hops over the wall and sets off flair right next to him
>he disconnects as 2 tanks and a factory walker are dropped right ontop of the generators
>mfw

D10 Bots or bugs

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244760743528/76561197999417031

>>529207686
2/4

>>529205851
ebin, I decided to overclock my gpu and the game crashes

>>529207686
3/4

>>529207686
failed...

>"LE KUCK CHAIR IS OP!!!"
Maybe stop making situations require them? *dabs on you*

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244761674997/76561198141964882
botdiving on oslo, now featuring free ABRL.

>>529209178
2/4

There's really no reason to use the airburst outside of it being a free slot. The GL hard counters Jet Bots and you can take out out fabs as well

>quickplay
>chinks
>can't be assed to wait, leave and block them
>alt f4
>boot up something else
anyone else do this?

>>529209402
I haven't played in anything but /hdg/ lobbies for my own sanity's sake, so no, not really.
>>529209178
3/4
ONE SLOT LEFT

>>529206387
>You want me to le shoot at enemies to le kill them? REEEE
Where are these retards even coming from. Actual fucking mouthbreathing drooling baboons nowadays

>>529209178
still 3/4
come on
we're waiting for (you)

>>529209178
trooncord lobby

>>529210595
Almost joined, thanks

>>529210595
close one - thanks

>>529210595
It's not, but sure.
We're dropping soon in any case, still have 1 slot open

>>529210707
>>529210940
samefag

>>529210595
thanks
>>529211024
seethe

>>529195006
if the jeet brigade was smart they'd give the scorcher hulks thruster packs that launch them forward instead of into the air

>>529209879
>game became available worldwide
>thread gets filled with retards

>>529209402
I just avoid quickplay in general.
too many retards that don't communicate (even yes, no, or place markers)
still tons of shitters that don't know samples are shared.
people who don't understand that while friendly fire is part of the game, the goal is to minimize it.
Quickplay has just been a headache for me.
I mean i just don't see the fun in watching a respawn screen while my teammates fubble around like retards unable to do the most basic tasks.

Don't these retards understand that if you cut the snake of the head, you stop the invasion?
If all the damned Hell Divers would go to Duma Tyr and liberate it, it would stop the damned invasion of Oslo Station!

>>529209879
And what do fleshmobs have that those other mobs dont, hmmm? Come share with the class.

>>529212376
DEFEND PLANET GOTTA DEFEND THE PLANET IT HAS A SYMBOL OVER IT AND THE DSS
IM GONNA DIVEEEEEEEEEEE

>>529212493
>The mechanic that moves where vote for it to go goes where people voted for it to go
woah....

>>529212376
And now you understand why democracy sucks.

>>529212376
>boot up game
>fight against x MO
>most player and dss on planet x
>go there

>>529212620
Oh wow, I just discovered the voting system.
But >>529212493 comment still stands, it's got the damned defend icon so everyone only sees that.

>>529213010
REAL Managed Democracy(tm) has never been tried.

>>529212493
>>529213047
I can't imagine what kind of NPC it takes to go to some shithole piss-fog planet just because that's where the mass of other mouth-breathing retards are at. I only save nice planets, I'm not wasting my one and only reinforcement somewhere that isn't even worth saving.

>>529212383
NTA but fleshmobs serve the same role as the charger whilst having no armor so any weapon can deal with them. This is balanced by them being immune to most stun while charging. As far as I’m concerned this is unique and makes playing squids require more of an ability to prioritize targets (“do I deal with the two flesh mobs getting close or the 5 overseers swiss-cheesing me?”) and make the roster more diverse.

>>529212376
does stopping the invasion this way count towards advancing the MO?

I'm interested in a randomiser lobby.

>>529216020
make one

>>529215787
>squids require more of an ability to prioritize targets
Do you not focus chargers and bile titans?

>>529216194
Not what I said. Obviously you have to prioritize targets in any faction. The *addition* of fleshmobs increased the need to do so for squids, a previously incomplete faction.

>>529216194
It depend. You should shoot some dangerous enemies first before shooting the charger/titan.

>>529212383
Fleshmob is almost exactly like pre-nerf berserkers but on an easier faction compared to the rest of pre-nerf bots.
You just want to throw your high dps shit at them.

>>529212376
>cut the snake of the head

Exactly what I expected from this type of post.

>>529215970
The one advantage of having the campaign run manually by swiggers is that they can judge MO's by ends, not means.

My only problem with fleshmobs is that often there is too many of them at once and noclip ofc

>>529216917
How do you know there isn’t a snake of the head hm? Be more open minded anon

>>529216693
the point is that you don't throw your high dps shit on them
You throw shrapnel and a select (few) explosive weapons can be used in a pinch
Its a big reason why the eruptor is so dominant on that front.

>>529215970
It would, but these faggots don't get it.
You're still defending the assaulted planet are you not? Then it would count.

>>529217345
This.
If autocannon didn't have shrapnel, they'd have like 800 HP and like 50% durable health

D10 bots, Duma Tyr
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244766960137/76561198415003359

>>529215787
Dead ass the way flesh mobs react to stun by running past you and not attacking you is really cool.
Like it makes stun weapons feel interesting.

Like to the point I wish more enemies reacted like this.

I just don't like though how they have this unavoidable close range attack. If they worked like chargers, they'd have a bigger wind up and hit harder.

>>529217990
3/4

>>529217990
full

>>529212376
>Gambit retards actually think we can gambit a planet with 0% liberation in 24 hours.
It has literally not once happened in the entire game's lifespan, you autistic faggot.

>>529218606
Better to have some liberation progress on a planet than have none at all on a lost planet

>>529218780
And that wins the MO, how? And given that the ayy planet that was a focus of a previous liberation attempt is in freefall, this community doesn't fucking finish their liberation plates. It's better to just focus on beating down the jeets until we can win a defense against them.

>>529217071
gain taste

>>529218931
>winning the MO
>against jeet bots
What do you know of this man… this man called… Joel?

>>529219115
gain toothpaste

>>529219467
We've won multiple MOs against the Jeets, yes. They are shitters. Even the last Creek MO was a Jeets + Incel corps MO and we won that.

>>529219754
>multiple MOs won
>still no significant territorial gains
JeetGODS may have lost the bottles, but are winning the war

>>529219942
>"I'm gonna kill myself. Bye."
Why do these niggers think people care? They're not your therapists.

>>529217990
back to 3/4

>>529221205
back to full

>>529217998
>I just don't like though how they have this unavoidable close range attack
another thing is that if you destroy all the arms their melee swipes do no damage, and their charge by itself does very little since most of the damage comes from them swiping at you during it

>>529220976
It was during the liberation of the satellite pred bug planet too

Guy was like “let’s clear the mega nest first because it reduces bug breaches”

Queue 10 deaths and pic rel kek

>>529222024
>Guy was like “let’s clear the mega nest first because it reduces bug breaches”
man he really doesn't know does he

>>529221940
Wouldn’t it be nice if this was common knowledge? No, says the man in Sweden. It’s too transparent; our game must be as cryptic and unreadable as possible.

>>529221940
problem with that is that you need a jar to two tap the arms

D10, lobby decides
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244772955598/76561198027910192

>>529223265
3/4

>>529223265
>failed

>>529199803
No gm is powerful enough to effectively deal with this community's retardation.

So bugs got a new sector opened to them when they got the city biomes. What planets/sector do we think will open up to the bots when they get city maps hopefully with the next warbond update?

>>529223618
we FVLL

>>529223265
REHOSTING BECAUSE OF THE CRASH

>>529201925
Heavy units have been chaff since the buff patch.

>>529201794
This majority of the community wants zero challenge.

Playing support on bots is really fun. Had 2 people with the RR shooting down the convoy and I was bouncing back and forth with the supply pack bringing them ammo and providing cover with the shield gen. Being behind cover and pre-stimming them and keeping them capped with the stim pistol has saved people too. I still want a rep 80 though.

>>529206643
Okay so I just tested it.

Landed an impact directly on the front of the fleshmob.
Then shot it 22 times which killed it on the 22nd shot.

in total the breaker did 5445 damage to the flesh mob.
This means the impact did roughly 800 damage.
I took off 2 heads from the fleshmob, each roughly 400 HP.

If the explosion behaved normally,
I should be dealing about 300 damage to EACH body part which amounts to 3000 damage.
Even assuming I only hit the front half, I would be doing 1800 damage.

It's not conclusive, but it does definitely look like you only deal the explosive damage when the heads pop.

How tough are jump hulks? Same armor as regular? Or even more fragile?

>>529224490
Even more fragile since their jetpack pokes out from the front and can get splash hit from all explosives weapons including primaries.

I solely used Purifier for everything including jeet hulks, commandos for Striders

>>529224061
are you gonna rehost

>>529224490
They made their weak spot hitable from the front

>>529217990
GG

>>529224490
They're technically weaker since their jetpacks are bigger targets than the standard heatsinks, can be shot from the front and instantly kill them instead of inflicting a bleedout, but they're also more threatening since they can actually close the distance and force you to reposition.

>>529224315
>Enabling RR dropship shitter on bot while being a support cuck
NPC gameplay

>>529224710
I did, actually. We're full

>>529226917
oh I was waiting for a new link

>>529224490
You can spit on them and they die. Their "improved" mobility is to jump in a very predictable arc and land 15m away from you in which case they do a landing animation so you have all the time in the world to reposition.

>>529223752
Either south and east, or they are trying to hit Tien Kwan and that planet will have cites on it now. Cherry on top would be that Tien Kwan still crashes when you try to dive it.

d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244777231996/76561198066017633

things arent looking so great..

>>529227892
Not surprising that the jump hulk is mostly a theatrical set piece. Can't have any of the enemies actually be dangerous.

>>529225406
I just think its fun everyone can stay on the move and not worry and fight over resources.

>>529228445
3/4

>>529224315
thats very nice anon :)

>>529228445
full

>>529225406
>brownshitter-brained thruster killing the dropship on approach so the bots have free cover on landing
Vs.
>big-brained body kill the dropship and crush all occupants to death
Vs.
>galaxy-brained bombarding the LZ with a big-gun barrage
Vs.
>16th-dimensional-super-intellect wiping out the drop midair with a perfectly timed strafing run

>>529224315
I'm not sure if this could be called an artist's rendition
https://files.catbox.moe/ak9n47.jpg

>>529229297
This isn't 1 year ago anymore. Killing dropship pretty much kill all occupants most of the time. One retard on AT encampment and clear a whole bot drop solo. Welcome to nu-bot gameplay

>>529228587
joel could engineer the 2nd battle for super earth and get away with it

>>529229420
Cute robodiver keeping her squad topped off!

any YNs remember when we raped the automatons so hard they dissappeared

>>529231729
Seeing this makes me realize how forced losses in the Galactic war are.

dobby doko

>>529231965
dobby is free

Retards call this MO a force lose but those idiots cant read just like the rest of the playerbase

>>529194535
i am slightly obsessed with high frame rates so i can record nice looking slow-mo webms

>>529218931
Dude, even at a player count of 47,000. You'll never win a planet at an ENEMY INVASION LEVEL
LEVEL 29

>>529231729
yeah it was the most boring fucking time for a short period of time. imagine the outlash if they did it with the bugs.

>>529233252
wasnt calypso AKA the initial squid planet invasion level 96?

>>529233557
>wasnt calypso AKA the initial squid planet invasion level 96?
Not sure, I wasn't participating around that time. Just recently re-installed.

I wish the devs would put in some more information about the galaxy map, in-game. Like someone mentioned here already, it's too cryptic. If they explained it to the smooth brains a bit (cutting off supply points) maybe we'd see improved tactics.

>>529228445
ggs

>>529228445
gg

>>529234126
>If they explained it to the smooth brains a bit (cutting off supply points) maybe we'd see improved tactics
They did. They do.

Every few Major Orders or so, you have dispatches explaining "IF YOU TAKE OVER THE PLANET WHERE THE INVASION IS COMING FROM, YOU SAVE THE PLANET AND LIBERATE A PLANET AT THE SAME TIME."

Same applies if you actually use the DSS properly. If you have Planet A invading Planet B, C and D, putting the DSS and activating Orbital Blockade on Planet A will halt all the invasions happening at the moment.

But that would imply that democracy actually works well when you hand over military operations to a bunch of mentally retarded space niggers.

>>529234972
Man jump hulks really came pre nerfed. I guess AH was exhausted from all the bitching regarding the leviathan so they had to make sure the new jet brigade enemies were extra weak.

>>529235494
>Same applies if you actually use the DSS properly. If you have Planet A invading Planet B, C and D, putting the DSS and activating Orbital Blockade on Planet A will halt all the invasions happening at the moment.
isn't that what we thought it did and the first time we tried it it turned out that it only stops NEW invasion from happening?

>>529235975
You make a good point - I don't know either, because I never had that happen yet either.

Little Timmy needs his Hellpod Space Optimisation to maximise his efforts of defeating the enemy on Difficulty 5.

>>529235494
>sloppunk image
>retarded
like clockwork

>sloppunk image
>retarded
like clockwork

no meme arrow therefore you say this and look like this

I put "slop" on something I personally dont like! That means its true!

I put "slop" on things!

can you faggots stop

yup its brown hour

>Be me
>Automaton
>Owner asks me to take his baby for walk
>I follow his orders
>Its a nice day
>Suddenly some nigger starts screeching about how I stole it
>This upsets the baby and he starts crying
>Quickly run from the scene
>Some faggot records it and uploads the video with zero context
I hate Super Earth so fucking much.

>be me
>sloppunk fan
>get called out for posting slop
>get mad and start samefagging
watch out or he'll start posting scat porn

Anyone have the mod that makes bullets glow brighter?

>>529237351
>Automaton
>Owner
owning fembots

I'M HUNGRY AS FUCK BUT I AIN'T GOT NO MONEY FOR FOOD AND I'M 2 WEEKS LATE ON MY BILLS AND 4000$ IN DEBT, IT'S SO FUCKING OVER, I MIGHT KILL MYSELF TODAY

>Be me
>Call it sloppunk and slopperpunk
>Not calling it Cyberslop

>>529237413
>>be me
>>sloppunk fan
>>get called out for posting slop
>>get mad and start samefagging
>watch out or he'll start posting scat porn

It's 1PM in India btw

>>529234972
outplayed robot nigger lmao

>>529237590
What race are you?

Why'd he have to go and ruin the fun?

>>529239052
He's literally me. The cute robot makes me nervous.

>>529239052
R A P E

>>529239429
No...

lobby doko?

>>529235494
>Every few Major Orders or so, you have dispatches explaining "IF YOU TAKE OVER THE PLANET WHERE THE INVASION IS COMING FROM, YOU SAVE THE PLANET AND LIBERATE A PLANET AT THE SAME TIME."
Given that Joel changed how lost defenses always results in 0% liberated now, he's pretty much never going to do those dispatches again too. No need to, because when the community can't even gambit a 50% liberated planet, they absolutely are never ever going to gambit a 0% liberated planet. The only winning move to defend during defenses, and hope on eagle storm to slow down the tougher defenses in time to win them.

>>529235494
>If you have Planet A invading Planet B, C and D, putting the DSS and activating Orbital Blockade on Planet A will halt all the invasions happening at the moment.
This is now how orbital blockade works. If attacks are already in progress it doesn't automatically stop the attacks. Never has and never will. How it works is you're supposed to have it active on a planet you assume a faction will use as their staging ground for another attack, which it will then prevent.

The only times blockade actually worked as how its intended to is when we camped it on Menkent to kill off the Jeet Brigade one time, so they couldn't attack other planets and died on planet liberation. The other time was I believe during this year's Creek MO, which was eagle storm + blockade to sit on Popli 9.

>>529238876
Made to fuck big white cock.

>>529238876
I've lost gallons to you

>>529229420
>>529229991
>>529238876
robot sexo

>>529239825
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244790136186/76561198228893896
d10 bots

>>529238876
Doing maintenance and repairs on cute robodivers after a particularly grueling mission.

if they added a big fuckoff orbital mini-nuke stratagem do you think that would invalidate the 500kg or would you guys still take it sometimes for the 2 shot flexibility?

D10 Bots
Lobby decides planet

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244788381304

>>529238876
*CLANK* *CLANK* *CLANK* *CLANK* *CLANK* *CRUNCH* EEEEYEOWCH!!!!!!!!!!!

>>529240643
merging with
>>529240771

>>529240771
FVLL

>It's a free airburst launcher day.
A good weekend to not play the game, I guess.

how lonely

>>529240747
Depends on the cooldown desu. I'd also like to be able to take the Hellbomb as a permanent strategem.

@529240447
>"""""""""""big""""""""""""" white cock
top kek

what was the comically small average Indian penis size again? 3.5 inchers or something, no I won't care to remember the metric?

squidsissies......

they're back at it again

>>529241263
Players just can't handle a challening faction anymore, they whined until the leviathan got nerfed and now they will whine unti fleshmobs get nerfed

>>529241332
they are just poorly designed and not as fun to fight as the other two.

what if instead of the game being hard... i was hard? and my thing... my peanits, if you will. went in you.

>>529241263
>>529241332
They didn't even finish this lmao

Most winnable jeet invasion

I bet she can warm up like a space heater.

>>529241263
when I stopped playing squids entirely (heart of democracy release) I was genuinely afraid that I had simply become too much of a cynical boomer to fully enjoy this game but I realize now that I was simply ahead of the curve in that I saw the slop for what it is earlier than most.

>>529184361
compressed archives -> vram graphix card

>>529242606
>not having a 16gb vram graphix card in the year of our lord 2025

>>529241421
This. Squids just aren't all that fun to kill. It's somehow weirdly unrewarding to shoot them. Maybe it's the much less spectacular visual feedback, maybe the ablative armor bullet sponge design, maybe the visual design that I want to call a formless mass of pale purple diarrhea. I can't pinpoint it. They just bore me.

>>529241604
>do you care about-
no, shoot bot :3

>>529184361
Decompression is 0.000001x as computationally complex as spaghetti swigger code

>>529229420
Based
Now gen her licking the smegma off of a stinky brawnydiver's rancid cock and loving it
Pic unrelated I barely play Payday 2 any more but the Helldivers mods are cool

>>529243506
For me, it's just the repetitiveness of mowing down voteless. It's just a dumb swarm that walks right towards you, then every now and then an overseer throws a grenade at you, and then a fleshmob spawns behind you, then a weakass harvester presents itself you you for the kill. It's the same fucking thing every encounter.
Bugs aren't much better, but at least it's satisfying to blast them apart. Bots are by far the most fun with how you have to move tactically between cover and aim for weak spots.

Diligence is really fun but it would be so much better with ap3. I know the countersniper exists, but it could do with a pen upgrade as well. Go use either gun in an acid storm and tell me I'm wrong. Protip you won't.

>>529244278
Don't bully the robo...

d10 oslo jeet bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244795621644/76561198036215897

>>529245354
3/4 (You) are needed

>>529245354
full

>>529241853
why is she the size of a toddler

>Join game
>Start calling down my AMR and Jump pack when i drop
>Some faggot immediately steals my weapon right in front of me and runs off like nothing happened
>Shoot him and take the rifle
>Start hearing some german kid yelling over voice chat
I really don't know what he was expecting. Does he think he can just take other people's stuff like that?

Got time for a series of 3 missions before sleep.
Lets do it. D10 bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244794107527/76561197977922760
Rocking my Constitution until I get it to 25

>>529246582
2/4

>>529246582
3/4

https://streamable.com/5vlmwo

bouncy

what do you guys think of the Tenderizer? Especially on bots.

imo if you can pull off headshots consistently its one of the best weapons for d8 and up.

>>529248168
Tenderiser is probably the best light pen weapon.

>>529246582
full up

>>529248349
nah, on bots the best light pen weapon is the scythe

>>529248168
tremendously powerful close quarter weapon but for semi auto gameplay I'd much rather hold dili or amendment

>>529248168
It's in a weird position where it doesn't one tap heads on devs, and the dilegence is like 10 rounds less and does one tap.

Can't think of many break points the gun beats liberator at off the top of my head honestly.

But maybe I should try it again. 850 rpm on burst sounds fun.

>>529245354
GGs

Do basic jeets come with more armor than the standard versions? I swear they take more Lib shots to the chest.

When are they going to give us a red that kills heavies as efficiently as 500kg.

Like ignoring the fact it kills everything around it, there's nothing that comes close or (should) beat it for killing heavies. Least on the bug front.
Maybe rocket pods?

I know there's the secret spot on the bile titans that does a shit more damage with your supports for no good reason, but that only chews off like 2000 HP. Need to guarantee 4500 (cause they upped their health).

>>529248868
rail gun rounds should be on a faster cool down for the orbital

>>529248815
think they have a little more hp
if you're not comfortable consider switching to something with more dpr like judi, tendie, dili, jar-5, jeets die fast enough to allow reload time

>>529248868
it was they ops but it feels like powercreep how little it works nowadays. I don't know if they nerfed it or it was always just this bad but I swear it used to one shot bile titans.

>>529248552
It's such a fucking good weapon against them. It's crazy that it isn't more popular. Shit's a better marksman rifle than the marksman rifles.

>>529249014
up to a point.laser weapons need to lose their retarded range limit. I can cuck enemies with R63 or deadeye across the actual entire map. same should be possible with lasers.

>>529248925
I've been saying this for a long time. Railcanon strike has no aoe and can only take out one target so it should have a really short cooldown. Hell it doesn't even always one shot either. I've seen bile titans survive getting shot by a railcanon strike. In my opinion it should have the same cooldown as the OPS.

>>529249202
60 sec cooldown would be fair for ORCS
rocket pods should come with like 8 charges per Eagle sortie

>>529249142
You can do that with the scythe and the dagger but not the laser canon.

>>529248989
It did. They upped their health and the explosion is really tight on ops.

Ops honestly was never as efficient as 500, it was just a spare 500 when your 500 was on cooldown.
Like I love OPS, its an amazing workhorse, but it's really undertuned.
Guess it's lucky ultimatum exists though, just kinda wish I could bring something else for once.

>>529249142
I think it would actually be OP if it did have infinite range, though. It's already a hitscan weapon with no recoil and a burn dot. It and the laser cannon utterly dominate whatever they can shoot at.

>>529249298
I miss the OPS. it used to be my go to on the bug front but its so out-classed. It was so satistfying to hit a prediction shot on a charging charger :D

>>529249292
60 seconds miiiiight be a stretch.
But I do think they need to figure out a better identity for non-barrage orbitals.

>>529249467
how about 100 seconds but it fires a three-round burst in second intervals

>>529249457
Still works for me. I still bring it with me pretty often. I just think it's fun to use.

>>529249457
:)
I liked EAS cause you'd throw it side ways, and matador a charger with it n dice outta the way. That or if you saw like a school of chargers EAS would just obliterate them.

But just baiting bile titan attacks became a lost art, only relevant when landing eat pods on em.

>>529249527
Honestly rail cannon barrage would be cool, would honestly make sense for the long cooldown if it just board wipes a bunch of heavies.

I think 100 could be okay though honestly.
It'd just be impossible to convince the devs.

>>529249536
I oughta bring it again just for the sake of it.

>>529249675
I just don't get it. Barrages and blue items can waste any amount of heavies. Railcannon feels really nice when it works but the cooldown just has no relation to the meager amount of power provided.

>>529249741
Yeah, why not. Game is meant to be fun afterall.

>>529249782
Don't forget that it's being balanced by devs that play on diffculties where heavies are extremely rare.

>>529249903
Legit I think this is the reason.
Just think they need an upgrade for last tier orbis to fix this.
If they say "oh only sweaty fags should be able to have strong orbitals on 10" then just separate that with another upgrade or something.

It does feel really dull on lower difficulties though, like I get where they're coming from. But that's there fault for balancing difficulty with higher heavy spawn rates.

Honestly looking at it now, paired with precision strike you could 1 2 punch factory striders pretty easy. That is you manage to stick the precision under em and the rail cannon doesn't hit the gun on top.

Oh and you have to ignore that 500 does it easily in two drops. It also only costs one slot compared to two.
But uh...

>>529250221
Well you need to play on higher difficulties to get the rarer samples needed for the ship upgrades so it's already kind of like that. Players are basically encouraged to play on higher difficulties. Difficulties the devs can't even complete a single mission objective on.

instead of new modules there should be ship customization that allows you to specialize into two of the three stratagem types. for example you could be a mine+emplacement+sentrymaxxer with either pimped out support weapons or ridiculously short CDs on your orbitals. I'd go all in on orbs and support weapon upgrades. in a perfect world this would also make your ship look distinct on the mission end screen.

>>529250568
Ive been hoping for specialization. Be nice if each player had a niche that others can expect them to play into.

Also imagine picking anything besides captain build with 4 orbitals.

>>529250649
I know, right? Everyone likes to theme their diver, and change themes on occasion too.
>captain build with 4 orbitals
I just want to be a space ranger with powerful friends in orbit.

>>529250690
I wish there was an eagle outfit so i could be eagleman and only use eagle stratagems.

>>529250784
>Eagle's BF build
yeah I'd definitely spec into that too

>>529250690
I gotcha, I just think its sick having overwhelming support fire from my destroyer.
ops tickles me so much.

But I need to sleep n thinkabout hell jorking tomorrow. Maybe AH will add something like this soon anon :)

Unholy trinity (four) of throwing?

>ORC
>Laser orbital
>Flag strategem
>Smoke orbital

Or can you do worse?

>>529250986
the orbital smoke isn't so useless, I hate EMS strike more since stuns and sentry do the job so much better

If Joel got fired with immense force and you were designated as the new game master how would you handle the galactic war?

Is Darktide worth getting on sale?

>>529251257
>>>/v/

>>529251257
No, unless you want another flavor of swedes dropping the ball

>>529251171
EMS is "okay" because it just plugs enemies in a single spot and kinda shuts down breaches.
If you follow it up with a big boom or even an OPS you'll nuke a ton stuff.

It also stuns harvesters surprisingly efficiently. But yeah totes unreliable compared to the grenade.

>>529251396
Gas strike has the same level of area denial and crowd control and it also deals damage.

>>529251570
True, but Only issue is it spreads enemies out.
Locking em down in one area is honestly really valuable for efficient follow up.

>>529251290
Come on, they're have to be some /copers/ here

>>529251324
How bad can it really be?

>>529243331
this. one memory hungry bastard. between your GPU and CPU it hogs 30gigs of memory from the moment you log in.

>losing the defense MO at Oslo station
>vast majority of the playerbase is participating there
I see people claim sometimes that people need to be more organized but when this amount of fucking railroading happens how do you expect anyone to care

>>529252574
Anon the MO isnt railroaded you just cant read

>>529252574
why make such a big deal of winning or losing anon do you need medals? you're not getting punished if the MO fails.

>>529252674
how is it not? are you telling me most of those 30.000 divers are complete ass and failing all their missions?

>>529252574
>>529252860
Prediction: losing Oslo will weaken the attacking force and we'll win the next three defences and the MO

>>529252860
We had 2 defence Mission Anon one with just a level 8 attack which we could win and a level 29 which we could not win now instead of checking and defending the level 8 attack EVERYONE run to the 29 and now cries like a bitch that we are being railroaded because they are retarded and cant read

>>529252674
>jeets have have started four attacks and got defeated once
>still have enough forces to starts invasions with unwinnable strenght levels
>despite muh attrition being their supposedy gimmick
Joel doesn't play by the rules
I hope chinks do some bullshit hacks again, if he ignores his own rules why should the players stick to them?

>>529252574
If they wanted you to coordinate and strategize they would have given you the tools to do so in game and not have you going to third-party websites and discord channels like some terminally online trooncel.
As for me, I play the planets closest to the center of the map because that's where my cursor starts. I still expect my MO medals on time though. Get to it MOnkeys, chop chop.

>>529253095
king

>>529253056
The easy one is a fire tornado planet. Nobody likes those.

I doubt people even care enough about the mechanics to know there's an even something such as invasion strength and they just pick the first one that's closest to super earth.

Major oder, major schmorder. It baffles me people still complain about them when they've been complete bullshit from day 1.

Accept fucking reality and just play what you want.

>>529253056
So it's not railroaded, but there just are unwinnable planets?

>>529253612
You can also just take over the planet they are attacking from.

>>529253772
Within 24 hours? Are you retarded?

>>529253772
You can also win the lvl 29 defense.
But it's still considered unwinnable for a reason.

>>529253612
dont you know what choice means?

>>529253772
Has that been done even fucking once in the game's lifetime?

>>529254064
Like twice in a very railroaded setting.

Man jeet hulks have a lot of silly moments.

>>529253970
With eagle storm sure
Too bad Joel started the MO when that thing just stopped and went on a one week cooldown
Because god forbid the DSS is allowed to do something useful

>>529254615
Almost like... it's railroaded?

>>529254541
half finished unit, gonna take a while before they're not bugged as all shit anymore like the chickens

lobby doko

>>529254541
I was silly for thinking them clipping through the ground was due to leak weirdness and the real deal will have that fixed.

>>529253563
NOOOOOOOOOO ITS THE MAIN GIMMICK YOU HAVE TO CARE YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO

>>529255020
>Still thinking swiggers aren't drip-feeding untested content made years ago
It took them weeks to make 1 (ONE) cape using copypasted assets

you are brown

yeah it's summer

Just started playing this again. I noticed literally all new warbonds have1 good thing in them and rest trash.

Expert jewing, Arrowhead. Bravo.

I'm brown. I'm a Viper Commando.

>>529254541
I have seen immortal hulks. They just keep on going. thermite dosent stick to them. until they kill me and just disapear

>>529256903
did this occur before or after you took your daily medication?

>>529252459
How the fuck can it hog 20 GB of RAM?

>>529256903
can confirm. I had one that had its jetpack destroyed but it didn't die so no weakpoint. immortal

Please help a retard out. How many Quasar shots are needed to kill following enemies from the front:
1) Annihilator tank
2) Barrager tank
3) Factory Strider (eye shots allowed)

>>529257404
Sweden

>>529257831
>>529182787 (OP)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>>529257831
2
1
2

>>529257831
always 2
1 if you hit the rocket holes on its turret, otherwise 2
2 if you hit eye only, 3 if you hit entire head only
also this
>>529258234

>>529257404
anticheat prease unastan

>>529258310
Annihilator is 1 on the weakspot aswell.

>>529258892
>From the front

are there any mod that reduce the fog?

>40k on Oslo
>still getting our asses kicked
they need to nerf the JB's impact on planetary defense because that shit's crazy

>>529259445
Player numbers have not mattered in ages for defenses or liberations. The only thing that matters is percentages, and only 61% of the players are on Oslo, so it was a loss.

>>529259286
Yes

stealth and sniper bond would be cooking if it functioned as such
>smoke grenade pistol with a gas alt fire mode
>shield bubble stick grenade that makes a reasonably big shield relay for 2-3 divers
>suppressor attachment for your diligences, countersnipers, and amendments
>ghilli & poncho armors, perk that halves your recoil and lets you move faster while crouching or prone
>reaper, a big ap3 marksman sickle for a support weapon

>>529259445
How new are you.

>>529259574
>only two thirds of our forces are on one planet, >obviously we will lose
the fuck outta here man

>>529259757
We needed like 150% so yeah 60% is pretty low

>>529259757
That is how the game works, yes. If the playerbase doesn't autistically focus one planet then we all lose. Simple as. Just look at the Super Earth defense. If China didn't single-handedly only deploy on Liberty-at-Sea then it would have fell like all the other megacities did.

>>529259998
To add, it was literally one of the first megacities to get attacked too. It and Super Israel were the first megacities to get attacked. China doggedly kept their megacity alive while all other nations' playerbases didn't commit or were autistic enough.

>>529258532
>>529258310
Thanks based anons
>>529258234
Please read the post you're replying to. "Help a retard out". I am barely literate. If I could understand the spreadsheet and calculate the shots to kill I would have done it instead of waiting for an answer that may or may not come. You might be even more retarded than I am lmao.

>>529259445
Higher invasion level supposedly means it takes more operations to gain progress, Wezen would have been an easy win but ultimately doesn't matter too much since we'd need to grind down that level 28 invasion on Oslo eventually.

>>529259197
You can hit the weakspot from the front...

>>529259692
>>smoke grenade pistol with a gas alt fire mode
I would never turn off the gas mode.
>>shield bubble stick grenade that makes a reasonably big shield relay for 2-3 divers
Sounds great. My only problem with the shield generator is the time to call it in and activate, a grenade would hopefully solve that.
>>ghilli & poncho armors, perk that halves your recoil and lets you move faster while crouching or prone
Would that be better for stealth than the regular scout armor perk? I dunno the actual effect of crouching on detection.

>>529259984
>>529259998
It's never going to happen to get all players on board, so this is very stupid game design.

Especially with zero ingame tools.

>>529260179
You can also just shoot the front/back of the Barrager turret with your primary

>>529260240
well the crouching or prone buff would mostly be a godsend for the sniper side of things but of course bots will have a harder time seeing and hearing you if you crouch

>>529260291
>so this is very stupid game design
No, it perfectly make sense. They really don't give a shit about the system until it comes down a Super Earth defense where China will single-handedly save the playerbase again because they actually play as a unit instead of being a bunch of solo-minded niggers.

>>529260291
Ok newfag welcome to the game, stop wasting time on a railroaded shitty narrative and just kill things

d10 fire tornado bots
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244817300655/76561198036215897

>>529259692
A laser sniper rifle sounds awesome.

>>529261374
tell me about it, ammo saver with extreme range who wouldn't want it

is the game out of early access yet?
have they stopped locking progression behind paywalls/grind?

>>529261497
?

>>529261497
>have they stopped locking progression behind paywalls/grind?
it's a live service game that can't make its money off of constant premium crossover bundles, what do (You) think?

>>529261296
2/4 taste the flame

>>529261701
well the base game only had like 5 guns
i expect more

>>529261794
everything in the game is free anon

>>529261980
yeah if you play 24/7

>>529260150
I deliberately didn't dive on Super Europe because I hate France.

>>529261296
>>529261778
Full?

>>529261794
the free base warbond has 11 guns (one secondary.) they should've absolutely released a new free warbond for year 2, though.

>>529261980
how do I get a free knight and stratagem hero?

>>529262317
knight is mid and you dont need to have a minigame youre only going to play once or twice

>>529262423
>everything is free
>list things that aren't free
>t-these don't count!!
Come on mister shiller, you can do better than that

I thought that Voteless would have a lunge or bite attack or something but no, if you shoot off their arms, they just follow you and do nothing.
I'm now going to play a map without SEAFies and try to amass the biggest horde of Votless friends I can.

>>529262175
there's one assault rifle, two shotguns, two marksman rifles and a submachinegun sidearm
there are a bunch of variants that don't really change much

Lobby doko onegai desu

>>529262617
And thus began the armless voteless immigration crisis of Super Earth.

>acquisitions
>acquisitions
>acquisitions
Hard 180 from their statements around launch lmao
Reminds me of 343 industries

>>529262689
>there are only 5 guns
>give the actual number
>t-those don't count!!

>>529263204
they don't significantly change the playstyle
in a call of duty game those variations would be possible through attachments
obviously you're upset that i don't lick swedish boots like you do
i suggest you try to be more objective about these things

>>529262617
I wonder if doing this takes up enemy spawning slots. Would be hilarious to completely stop enemies from spawning because of the 40 harmless voteless following you.

>>529262058
>he didn't farm 10k credits in an afternoon when you could still reset maps

>spend 10 hours of currency for 10% damage boost
>for stratagems that already one-shot basically everything
If this affected gattling barrage it might actually be a little bit useful lmao
These devs really have no idea what they're doing

>>529263461
This is worth testing out.

>>529263596
it affects the fire on the floor from napalm

>>529263596
>he doesn't understand basic math
A 10% radius increase is a 21% increase in area.

>>529263596
It's not a damage boost retard, it's a damage radius boost.

wtf is this?

>>529263596
>he can't read
Now I understand why we are losing the defense.

>>529263342
>obviously you're upset that i don't lick swedish boots like you do
arrowhead run this game like idiots and need to release new substantial content including free warbonds on a regular basis but they can't be assed to do more than the bare minimum.
AH being incompetent and lazy doesn't make you less wrong

>>529263804
>>529263808
>>529263848
>>529263951
I'm starting to think people just come to this thread to bitch and moan like faggots

>>529263596
it's just something you buy and forget about and it just makes the game 0.1% easier without you noticing. I agree that flat damage and area boosts are retarded and soulless though. the one that makes eagles drop an additional bomb was the most immediately impactful one.

Honestly, all of these sub-faction enemies should start being added in normally. Like you can have fire brigade with jumper troops and normal troops. I just hate that we can only fight one at a time. It'd be a lot more fun.

>>529264000
me being technically inaccurate is irrelevant
the vanilla game has 5 guns like ps5 has no games
focus on the things that matter instead of being a sniveling nitpicker

>>529263596
It's area of effect, dummy.

Also i'm not sure you'd want this if you're fond of using the orbital barrages. Same amount of explosions but bigger radius means you might miss more bug holes or fabricators, and this is a permanent upgrade.

>>529264156
>cookout devs that can instantly close the gap to blast you point blank
no thanks

I just paid a cheater like 3 bucks in total to skip the sample grind once I got level 3 modules legit.

>>529264295
I'm not saying cookout devs have jump packs, I'm saying jumper troops and fire brigade together, not fused into one troop.

>5 people point out the same superfluous point
Missing the forest for the trees as is expected from midwits.

>>529262592
get a job

>>529264028
correct

>>529264028
first day on the internet or what?

weapon customasing crash is worse than ever. how dose it takes so long to fix total crash like that

>>529264758
The answer has been the same from day one.
Swedish spaghetti coding, pls understand.

>>529264758
What do you mean? They've fixed it already. They fix it every patch.

>>529263117
antisemite

>>529264028
lurk in here long enough and you will see the same topic being regurgitated over and over again
from armchair commandos who believe they understand the game way better than anyone else because they did nothing but botdive for the past year or so, to some clowns thinking that this game should have more realistic autism than it already has

leave while you can

>>529265306
>>529264674
Been on 4chan for a long ass while, but only occasionally visit these threads for any updates. I don't know what it is about your threads and every place has its doomers, but man you guys have like 20% more whiny ass bitches who couldn't game if their life depended on it

>>529265708
Only 20%? You should stick around a bit longer to get a better feel of how much bitching is going on here.

>>529265783
20% as in more than the usual gaming thread, AT LEAST

>>529265708
>I don't know what it is about your threads
content drought is a constant thing. a warbond comes out, everyone deconstructs it to what its worth, then its back to "dead game". the swedish special, you understand?

>every place has its doomers, but man you guys have like 20% more whiny ass bitches who couldn't game if their life depended on it
COOP games attract certain breeds of autists that like to smear shit all over the place they inhabit. the majority of doomposters and the likes dont play the game, and only exist here to seek attention

>>529265965
this general has at least 200% more bitching than is expected

>>529264481
you do it for free

The HMG + Fortified combo is so fucking good on bots, you just start deleting Hulks and Gunships from existence en masse the second you crouch. Take the cuck chair to deal with turrets/tanks/factory striders at a distance/strongholds and you're golden. Shame about the ammo economy though, the thing eats ammo like it's popcorn.

>>529261296
ggs fellow pyros

>>529267230
that's what the supply pack is for

>>529261296
ggs

>>529267230
EAT or Commando are good additions to this playstyle, making you even more target flexible and self sufficient. Yeah HMG won the ap4 dick measuring contest let's be real. Less maintenance than autocannon and AMR, more damage than LC.

Okay, so I'm not dreaming, there WERE bikes with a sidecar, right? I just returned to the game after years and I feel like a lot of stuff is lacking.
And also, I feel like more stratagems are now weapons to unlock, wasn't there a lot more non-combat stuff? I vaguely remember an ammo bag, a ballistic shield, a lot of vehicles, and all kind of stuff to support the team, but I can't find anything.

>>529268094
you're thinking of the first game

>>529268698
Also WHY DO I ONLY HAVE TWO SIDEARMS?

>>529242440
>I had simply become too much of a cynical boomer to fully enjoy this game
Explain yourself.
Stop typing up nonsense where you think people can read your mind... like the squid.

>>529269049
you have to unlock warbonds if you want the rest

>>529269284
I told myself that I'd get mad every time I die to a leviathan, don't like fleshmobs, got sick of voteless, found another pointless overseer variant just impossibly lazy, so I just didn't complete a squid mission since they came out. Not one. I didn't know if I was just less patient and tolerant than the rest of the player base or if I had a point. Now it looks like I have somewhat of a point. Lot of people don't enjoy squids much.

Why are we losing the MO? I thought defense campaigns were the easiest shit possible and the DSS should give us guaranteed wins.

>>529270329
Just jeet brigade things.

>>529269657
When the fleshmob was released and they seemingly did nothing to change any interesting approach to take it down aside from "lol magdump it lol", it was one sign. Some pajeets will imply that its to filter solofags, when the main problem with them is this - a bulletsponge with only one approach to kill it, by magdumping it. No actual weakspots or the likes.

When they released the reskinned oversaar, it already gave a bad feeling - its just a reskin, it behaves like a bile spewer minus the ragdoll, and acts like a rocket trooper if you get too close. Nothing new or interesting.

The interloper aircraft was the only thing that came out and actually spices up the gameplay. The enemy uses actual aerial vehicles to attack us, instead of just zombies and devastators with throw-away armor.

The leviathan is cool, on concept. But the eternal swede didnt bother thinking for one half second what the fuck theyre about to release. As if they dont listen to anyone in their QA team (if they have one) saying "Hey that shits retarded, you sure this is fine for the playerbase we currently have?". Now its a neutered stage hazard.

Squids are lacking side objectives, with the occasional lidar or artillery here or there, and you better hope that the lidar isnt fucked in the mega city. SAM sites got removed because people cried they were overpowered (the warpships just didnt have shields on at the time, lol), cognitive disruptor is a Hide and Seek minigame, thats it.
And that's before we mention the lack of main objectives!
Or their shitty outpost designs!

d10, lobby decides
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775244831134433/76561198027910192

>>529270453
Which one of you would brave this gnome's barbeque?

Another two planets fucked. Botfags are jobbing as usual.

>>529270831
2/4