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/sthg/ #8398 - Magic Cards Edition

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==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 16 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 27 August 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

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Previous Zone:>>529222918

Adam made a new Lanolin comic.

Sonurj

>>529256367
All swatbots are kino

Do you just have a salad?

Good morning /sthg/! Have a great day!

What the fuck is wrong with this lemur?

>>529256404
fixing broken girls

I remembered IDW #79 came out and read it. As usual, it was pretty meh. But if I had to give it any one thing, it's that Whisper didn't hesitate and wasn't given any opportunity to hesitate. Silver literally holds Tangle back to prevent her from trying to talk Whisper down, and by all accounts she was going to blow the stupid squid's head off and be done with it - her first instinct is even to cheer to her dead squadmates that she finally avenged them by murdering their killer. Mimic suicide-bombing to try and take her down with him, in this context, comes across less as a writer cop-out to prevent the hero from having blood on their hands and more like the last ditch option of someone with no other cards to play. This is the only moment since her debut that she didn't feel too much like Crying Lesbian, and I appreciate that.

Of course, like all things IDW, it still flubs its own setpieces by having Tangle's "we aren't going to KILL Mimic, we're going to STOP Mimic!" thing amount to nothing with no reaction (though maybe it's for the best considering there's enough soap drama), the battle itself made Silver look a little weak, and the attempt to use wisps as a makeshift pride flag like they haven't learned their lesson from Sega slapping them from the dyke flag incident during issue #61.

>>529256401

>>529256424
Have some soup

http://x.com/Cyberlord1109/status/1939137549143843144

RIP BOZO

>>529256504
>>529256545
Which of them dragged the other down more: Tangle or Whisper?

>>529256556

>>529256184
Silver's worst enemies have consistently been people who thought they had his best interests in mind

>Nakamura letting 06 and Forces go forth with that they were
>Capella thinking his voice acting was a good representation of the character
>Iizuka not revising the script of Rivals to ensure his character doesn't come off as too obnoxious
>Evan and Flynn sincerely thinking the character is meant to be "soft"

I can't imagine if Silver were to handled by people who legitimately hated him if this is how he's treated by people who like him.

>>529256424
>>529256585
Soup?
Salad?
Soup?
Salad?
I'M CONFUSED! RRRRGH

>>529256694

>>529256753
>I can't imagine if Silver were to handled by people who legitimately hated him
He's handled by Ian most of the time.

>>529256545
Tangle is insufferable here

>>529256401
>>529256556
>>529256694
>>529256836
I can't even tell what's happening, he's just dipped his ass in ink and dragged it across the pages

>>529256836
The impotent raging will be continued later, according to Adam.
I like this stuff. Sheep's dumb as bricks.

>>529256919
It's messy, yeah, but it's not hard to parse if you look at it for more than three seconds. The last one he did was way worse in terms of readability.

>>529256753
>Nakamura letting 06 and Forces
Nakamura is getting blamed for shit he did not even do, he got kicked out from head writer when he asked for more pay during the half development of 06 and he had no authority when it came to forces.

>>529256504
Her writer

>>529256545
This entire issue felt like you could hear the writers saying "Fuck it, let's kill this guy, I don't care how"

It feels anticlimactic at best, unearned at worst, and now we're short another comic villain/antagonist.

Remember how Starline's premature death kneecapped the comic? It's going to get worse.

>>529256401
>>529256556
>>529256694
>>529256836
>>529256987
I cannot begin to read this chicken scratch, but ABT really likes drawing Lanolin creepy.

>>529257014
His death wasn't premature. Ian just fumbled the actual death scene.

>>529256987
>Expect me to apologize
Oh no no no the poor artist is seething

>>529256535
Based, he cares for her.

>>529257092
ABT defintely sees her as the Frank Grimes of Sonic.

>>529256795
Man that takes me back

>>529256401
>>529256556
>>529256694
>>529256836
>>529256987
Can you understand why I'm not fond of ABT as a creative?

>>529257092
He likes drawing all of the characters that way, and it's obnoxious

>>529256987
It looks like some kind of Rorschach inkblot test. Like I'm supposed to look at it, see someone murdering someone with an axe and then be put on years and years of pills.

>>529256684
In my opinion? Tangle. People only liked her at the time of debut because they think she "fits in" visually or wanted Sonic to fuck her, but she never really felt like it in either case.

Whisper doesn't fit much either, but at least she had a hook with the cold Sniper Wolf routine that was more visibly crippled by being attached to the hip with Tangle.

>>529257135
He's written her as unhinged several times. Why would you assume he's treating her as being 100% correct when she's having an unprompted freak out where she breaks her own shit and rants to herself?

>>529257209
>Can you understand why I'm not fond of ABT as a creative?
Not really.

>>529257275
>or wanted Sonic to fuck her
I personally wanted to fuck her

>>529257121
>His death wasn't premature
Maybe I would agree with you if Mimic and/or Clutch carried the ball after the fact.

>>529257159
>ABT defintely sees her as the Frank Grimes of Sonic.

>>529257135
What is she even seething about in those pages?

>>529257445
>He's written her as unhinged several times. Why would you assume he's treating her as being 100% correct when she's having an unprompted freak out where she breaks her own shit and rants to herself?
Because that's what ABT is feeling.

>>529257625
>I reject what makes the most sense given what we've seen from the artist because it lets me fabricate drama about him.
Ok dude.

>>529240878
Barnes has seen the slander.

>>529241160
Payback is an alternate future Fiona from a what if verse. She counts.

>>529256401
>>529256556
>>529256694
>>529256836
>>529256987
Nobody is buying lanolin being the "secretly complex" character, Adam, just draw her sexily with big boobs

>>529257445
>>529257798
>>529257864

Adam clearly got attached to the character he created and is salty that his peers are writing him different from how he envisions her

>>529256424
>Fiona, Bunnie, Mighty and Ray have meals together
Interesting

>>529257798
Kek covering his ass won't ever fucking work, he was in /sthg/ we know him well.

>>529257612
From her point of view, she told her new team mates about her insecurities, they promised to trust her as a leader, completely gave up on that immediately, and then started hiding more shit from her after she got pissed and yelled about it. And then they passive aggressively pressured her into apologizing for not trusting *them.*

She fucked up plenty, but Whisper and the others also fucked her over and she's seething about it. The fact that they couldn't be assed to even spell her name right on her little plaque for being second in command tipped her into a rage.

>>529257864
I just wanted the Phantom Rider Eggman Alliance to be the point where Lanolin goes "fuck it, if everyone's breaking the law, so am I" and quit the Restoration to become the Punisher.

>>529258008
>writing him different
*her

>>529258008
Evan wrote Lanolin pretty accurately in that Clean Sweepstakes Arc if her being an unhinged cunt is his intention.

>>529258138
>>529258118
Not unhinged enough

>>529258138
Yeah, no, it was good. Her "friends" didn't trust her for shit and she kept fucking up by trying to make things better.

And then in the final issue she randomly has clarity and Ian writes her giving a big apology that doesn't even make sense. It was weird.

>>529256994
>he got kicked out from head writer when he asked for more pay during the half development of 06
That was Yuji Naka.

I thrust Lanolin

I haven't touched the comics but is the mimic the last bad guy in the comic? is it gonna end soon or they are gonna introduce someone else new?

>>529258079
>spell her name right on her little plaque
Her name gets fixed on the same plaque a couple panels after so that may just be a mistake.

>>529258051
>>529258008
>>529257864
I dunno, maybe I'm stupid, but this reads way more like her freaking out in an unhealthy way over minor shit. She's bitching about people not talking to her when her last appearance was her being given the perfect chance to talk to people honestly, with this comic implying she just lied through her teeth the whole time.

>>529258469
>is the mimic the last bad guy in the comic?
They still have Clutch, Rough and Tumble
>is it gonna end soon
IDW supposedly only has a year left to live which might be true with this time with Diamond going banckrupt
>or they are gonna introduce someone else new?
Evan is going to introduce a Jester character in a few issues.

>>529258492
I think he goofed on the last one. It's consistently Lanalin on the other panels and it's a big focal point in the first panel but a small scribble in the one where it's spelled right.

>>529258293
>Frightened by The Wind.
How would you react to CoroCoro Sonic? Would she break down into a Sticks-tier schizo?

>>529256753
>legitimately hated him
Ian hated Silver so much he can't bear the idea of Silver being assertive or masculine ot whatever traits a cool characters should have

>>529256753
Ian does not like Silver. He's part of the original 06 haters that thought Silver was an annoying dweeb with a whiny voice and never looked at the character beyond that.

>>529257159
Really? Lanlan hahahahahaha that's a good joke

>>529258298
It makes sense when you understand that Evan wrote the Sweepstakes arc and the Duo subplot and Ian wrote her apology.

For some goddamn reason, Ian and Evan can't seem to agree on characterization between each other. Same thing happened with Surge.

>>529256753
Ian Flynn doesn't hate Silver?

>>529258686
I see, that would make sense. Thanks Adam.

>>529258994
Ian can't agree on characterization with anybody because he just wants to write his head canon and not what the characters are supposed to be.

>>529258942
>Ian does not like Silver. He's part of the original 06 haters
He doesn't like Shadow either. He grew up on Archie and SATAM and swears by it

>>529258942
How the fuck did the come to the conclusion that Silver has "never been rude"?

>>529259103
Lol.

I'm happy krack isn't here anymore

The only character Silver has gone on record stating he hates is Marine. He simply doesn't really care that much for Silver.

>>529259351
Marine is an easy target since she's a minor character. Do you really think he could state he hates Shadow or Silver without backlash? Come on now.

>>529258994
I thought they communicated with each other about this kind of stuff, but yeah. The final issue from Evan was really weird and a lot of what Ian's been writing this year feels like finger wagging and justifying stuff Evan wrote.

>>529259452
>Do you really think he could state he hates Shadow or Silver without backlash?
This was the late 2000s/early 2010s. Of course he could since everybody hated them back then.

>>529258994
>>529259124
I will give Ian some level of credit--Surge is actually a more entertaining character when written by him.

When written by Evan? Absolute joke, vulnerable emotional wreck, now she's a wannabe hero with a heart of gold. I'm not saying that transition can't be done but you can see the jarring shift of her personality between Ian and Evan

Douge

I'm sad that krack isn't here anymore

>>529259104
If I was Adam I would sketch out way more of these and wouldn't be as openly salty when people disagree with me and would have ditched Drogune years ago.

I'd also be way worse at writing dialogue.

>>529259663
Unironically the thread feels much better since she isn't constantly sperging about everything

>>529240519
>>529240617
>>529257817
Brah, isn't Payback/Fiona in her 40s? Silver is only 14.

>>529259625
I dunno, I like Evan's version way more. All of Ian's stories with her are fucking boring. Evan's version is a loser, but at least that's kind of endearing and she has some fun interactions.

>>529259546
>I thought they communicated with each other about this kind of stuff
Obviously not as much as they want people to believe.

>>529259894
I just resent that it's turning Surge into a dindu and poured all her previous villainy onto Kit.

>>529260081
Nobody cares about Kit so they can scapegoat him and save Surge for later.

Nyah!

>>529258079
I don't understand why they couldn't have just made a functional team of comic OCs, why'd they have to make the neo-diamond cutters so toxic?
Like this series has a whole game about the "superpower of teamwork", why'd they feel the need to deconstruct that?

>>529260081
>>529260181
I actually grown to like Kit and it would piss me off if that was the case.

He got a Con-exclusive keychain, so that's a good sign that he's not getting completely thrown under the bus

>>529260414
>Like this series has a whole game about the "superpower of teamwork", why'd they feel the need to deconstruct that?
Because they do not like this series for what it is. They like the character designs at best but they do not care about any actual themes Sonic presents and would rather disect and parody everything about it to leave a hollow shell for people to react to.

>>529260081
I think that's just a framing thing and people being bad at reading stuff. Both versions are aligned in Kit being a controlling little shit who tries to keep her stuck with him. Ian gets stuck on the "opposite versions!" thing where I think Evan is going for "they're both extremely childish." Surge wants to look tough but constantly allows herself to be used and keeps acting like she has no agency on her life when she absolutely does, even has meltdowns about it. Kit is constantly overthinking everything and creating grudges and acts like a bitch whenever things aren't exactly how he wants them. These are both really common behavioral patterns for maladjusted girls and boys.

I just think they need to have a story within the next few appearances that makes it clear that for all the scheming he does, Kit only has "control" over Surge because she doesn't want agency in her life. He's not as smart as he thinks he is. It only works because she doesn't try. That would help people understand she's not innocent.

>>529260414
I think everything about how Whisper and Tangle have been handled is shit, but Lanolin serves a really good purpose in having a character who is completely mentally at odds with the other characters. It's good for both helping kids understand that overcoming differences isn't easy and to facilitate some intercharacter drama without going full soap opera.

The problem is they've handled her horribly in the actual books. You need to read Adam's comics to get what they're angling at. The subplot is just utterly flubbed.

>>529260601
Congratulations, you've put more thought into these characters than the writers ever will

>>529259103
Little man got his ass raped and left twitter while getting demoted from head writer position, well deserved

>>529260932
No, I think that's what most of them are going for. I dunno about Ian, but it definitely reads like this with Evan. She might completely fail on executing it, but I think this is what they're trying to convey.

>>529260951
Evan is handling the art of Sonic and she's still writing the comics so Silver isn't safe yet

>>529261047
Considering how they completely dropped the ball with the Lanolin thing and brushed it under the rug, I really can't give either of these gaijin fucks the benefit of the doubt anymore.

>>529261115
Silver is never safe, from anyone after 06

Shado :)

>>529261438
Considering the Lanolin stuff in the Riders arc was perfect until it suddenly wasn't at the very end when doing a handoff to another writer, I can give Evan the benefit of the doubt. Especially because Ian's written like four "uhm, no, Evan is wrong actually" stories this year alone. If she totally drops it again mid-arc, no switch off? Yeah, nevermind.

>>529261551
This is bullying.

>>529261741
It's Ken Penders and Karl Bollers all over again.

>>529261438
I don't trust Ian with this stuff.
I don't trust Evan to pull it off correctly, but I think she gets the characters.

>>529229671

>>529261551
kek

>>529261115
She said he was so fucking faulty after she directed him, we still yet to see how she writes him from there.

TIL that IGN gave SA1 a really bad review score when the game got re-released in the 2010s

>>529262024
Imagine the dentist bill

>>529256504
The writers needed to manufacturer more drama

bnuy

>>529262657
Of course they gave it a 3/10, look at how much water is in the first stage.

>>529263030
prompt?

>>529262657
Nothing wrong with that?
Okay, for $5 this is harsh, but if you are releasing a game, one should compare it to what is releasing today

Sonamy.

>>529262657
The Sonic hate was so fucking strong a decade ago. The movies were truly a godsend

>>529263481
If Nintendo did the same thing with Super Mario 64, it would instantly given either a 9/10 or a 10/10 score. The 2010s was really just the "Fuck (Modern) Sonic" era

>>529256494

>>529259330
I'm deeply sad our queen isn't here anymore...

>>529265587
How do you know?

>>529259234
He just never paid attention to anything Silver actually said and assumed he was supposed to be polite because he's nice.

>>529265669
reduced post quality
missing based takes

>>529263481
SA1 is at the least a 7/10, even the inferior DX port.

>>529262657
>>529263720
The PS3/360 version literally controls and looks like complete shit.

>>529265720
kys simp

>>529266052
seething crackshipper

>>529260882
I guess Lanolin has the 06 Silver problem, where the point of her story gets muddled for readers because it puts her at odds with two more established protagonists and the ultimate conclusion of her arc is that she is wrong, even if she had good intentions

>>529265720
All she does is post about how horny she is for Shadow and how much she wants to rape him

I’m like 95% certain ABT’s lanolin comic is supposed to be her raging in the aftermath of the riders arc. i don’t know where you’re all getting these other schizo theories from

>>529266434
And when she isn't, she complains about off topic shit like twitter feuds

>>529266434
Everyone should post about rape.

>>529266881
Good riddance. all autistic dramafags and shitposters should fuck off

>>529266963
shut up

Samefagging this early?

>>529267463
She didn't do anything yet they let Metal job?
And fags say Sega is misogynistic but it's the opposite in a horrible way.

>>529265956
>Sonic Adventure DX: Director's Cut!
>emphasis on "Director's Cut"
>because they cut a director

>>529265720
>missing based takes
>hehe trannies cut their genitals (repeat 100 times)
>if you like [x] you hate Sonix
>westshit westcucks
>Maekawa says Maria fucked the dog
>[irrelevant japanese] liked my twitter post
>[namefag on twitter] is stupid because he likes thing I hate
>*spams Shadria*
>*grooms minor into being cringe like her*

>>529267463
Last breath before sedation.

>>529268190
TAILS NO!

cuddle with me and play sonic speed sim on roblox?

>>529268037
It's better than what you're posting that's for sure..

>>529268423
>roblox
Pedophile scat shit.

>>529268462
The opinion of an avatarfagging pedo has no value

>>529268462
The tailsfag posts the worst of the dogshit opinions. as expected.

>>529268462
The opinion of an avatarfag is always valuable.

This almost looks good, but the spindash, roll, and spin attack invalidates 99% of her unique kit. It's like instead of doing a real Advance Amy, they made a Sonic with all of Advance Amy's moves and gave it an Amy skin. In practice that just invalidates the whole point of the playstyle.

>>529268697
Nobody (most normal fans) want to play as a unique Amy. They want Amy to play like the rest

>>529256281 (OP)

>>529268697
Amy's consistently been a Speed character since Heroes (SA2 if you count battle mode, but Advance 1 dipped her into a more SA1 playstyle).

>>529268697
Every single 3D platformer is like this now, just a completely overloaded and overly-responsive moveset that removes any real challenge.

You post a single picture of Tails, and suddenly you are an avatarfag.

Here is another picture of Tails.

>>529269021
Yeah I've noticed all sonic fan games and even sonic inspired games end up like that. It's like they start with the adventure formula but then crank the speed and mobility up to 100.

>>529269090
THIS MAKES ME CRY AND SHAKE

>>529266286
There's not really an ultimate conclusion, she's just an asshole.

>>529263398
heres another one with the same prompt
https://files.catbox.moe/iiy5ey.png

>>529261551
faggot for who though?

>>529266775
Nobody said it was about anything else, anon. She's blaming her teammates and is pissed about how she's treated by them.

You shall breed and reproduce and appreciate life for how strong and resilient it is.

>>529268697
That's just Amy in Frontiers but they gave her back the hammer.

>>529269396
she's missing a tail and the perspective is fucky.

>>529269592
i remember that line
sonic said that in the black knight, did he?

>>529269592
Breeding is gross and I don't want to spend my life being a parent. Also your post has nothing to do with sonic the hedgehog.

>>529269763
millions of years of breeding only to produce a genetic deadend liberal . (you)

>>529268697
Advance 1 Amy honestly sucks and feels like a character meant for another 2D Platformer game which got ported into Sonic Advance as a joke.

Why does the fox trigger them so

>>529263030
>>529269396
Sexo?

>>529262024
I'm always caught off guard by nonstandard gameovers.
>Unleashed had several with Dark Gaia, including a voiceline where Light Gaia says his final goodbye to Super Sonic
>Forces had a giant snake eat Sonic
>Frontiers had Titans hungry for Sonic, plus that one robot you can drown in where the camera lingers on Sonic's floating corpse a little longer than usual
Next game should have more of these "oh my god Sonic died" cutscenes showing the aftermath and how devastated his friends are.

>>529269763
It has everything to do with sonic the hedgehog.

I don't understand how trannies can consume media telling them to enjoy life, running/respect the environment/have healthy lifestyles, be inclusive, be forgiving, have basically half of all the christian values written in the bible and still send death threats over misgendering a character. It happens under sonoc, undertale and steven universe.

>trannies out of nowhere
I don't even like them but it's getting tiresome

>>529270257
trannies are mentally ill and should be killed for the good of society
die

>>529269683
The "hammer as witch's broomstick" idea was kinda cool at least, but yeah, if she's not even going to be throwing her cards far away, just keep the hammer for attacks and tricks.

I want to talk about trannies out of nowhere, people talk about sexuality out of nowhere all the time in a kids media.

I am ON-TOPIC

>>529270770
I don't want to be tangle!

>>529270690
You can go to twitter to fight them. You aren't doing anything by talking about trannies here.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJTr-6fnv94

>>529270872
>You aren't doing anything by talking about trannies here.
I'm making you reply to me.

>>529270818
whyyyyyyyyy

>>529270995
Damn you showed me anon

Edit this and put silver in the middle.

>>529270942
it seems to be a video of bench tails reacting to ultimate fails

>>529271021
I want to be (me) marrying whisper, not a girl. I'll marry tangle too so they can stay together.

>>529256694
>Jewel couldn't even be bothered to spell her name right the first time
I expect Tumblr to give us a billion "Jewel is dyslexic" headcanons immediately.
>>529258492
I think the last panel with the plaque is a different plaque entirely. It's a bit hard to tell but the next page has another plaque with a different title and seemingly portraits getting blown up too, she's just blowing up her entire old office.

>>529271427
Shaggy I...

>>529271474
Nah, it's the same one, you can tell because she's juggling it at first and then it shatters when she loses it.

Okay, so. Let's talk, for a moment, about the demonstrable fact that Ian Flynn is not a world-builder. He is a plot-constructor, and these two things are not, in fact, the same.

Now, the popular narrative among his defenders is that he is the great architect of the modern Sonic lore. But this is patently, provably false. Let's look at the facts. The fact of the matter is, Ian Flynn is fundamentally uninterested in any world-building that doesn't serve as a setup for some grandiose, future-altering reveal. He has no time for texture, only for plot mechanics.

Let's take a very simple example. The stone heads. You know the ones. The ones with the vaguely human faces that shoot arrows at you. We see them on Angel Island. We also see them in Sylvania Castle. Now, a writer who is actually interested in *building a world* would see this repetition across two geographically and historically distinct locations and his intellectual curiosity would be piqued. Who built these? Why are they here? Is there a common ancient civilization that predates both the Echidnas and whatever kingdom Sylvania belonged to? This is basic, foundational world-building. It's a question begging to be answered.

But Flynn will never, ever answer this. And let's be intellectually honest about why. It's not because of some arcane SEGA mandate. It's because the answer, whatever it might be, is irrelevant to his "Grand purpose." Answering it doesn't introduce a new villain for a four-issue arc. It doesn't give Surge a new trauma to angst over. It doesn't lead to a shocking character betrayal. Therefore, in the mind of a writer like Flynn, it is pointless. It is flavor, and he is only interested in the main course of his pre-planned, by-the-numbers narrative.

Shadouge fags act like psychopaths.

>>529271972
Not reading all of that, but in general it's best to develop a small team who can all work on what they do best. If you give one creative too much power on anything the work always suffers for it. Like george getting full control in the prequels, instead of having a team to reign him in during the OT.

>>529271972
Where did you find this pasta

fuck the v janitors fuck everyone on this gay retarded faggot website i fucking hate everyone and i wish you all would fucking die i post sally once and she gets taken down because im initially spamming filters which is fucking bullshit because i wasnt and then when i posted sally LAST MONTH i got banned for it not being video games and off topic

>>529269426
Lanolin desperately needs a good hedgehog dicking

>>529272271
>reign him in
This is a meme. George's vision just can't be understood by plebs who think everything needs to be profitable

>>529271972
I mean the worst part is that it totally COULD lead to introducing a new character, it's just lazy. But yeah I get your point, the world building is... practically non-existent.

>>529272401
While /v/ moderation is shit, sally isn't video games, so idk what you expected.

>>529271972
That kind of stuff doesn't need an answer, but having that pattern recur in another location with similar circumstances would be good world building.

>>529272518
she was supposed to be in a video game if japan didnt get their faggot panties in a twist

>>529272439
Empire is the best star wars movie and it's the one george had the least control over.

>>529272439
George did a really bad job conveying the ideas of the prequels and Episode 2 is an awful movie. He should have swallowed his pride, consulted fellow scriptwriters and discussed it in depth with his peers.

>>529271972
The truth is if you're not having fun with your frachise and just wait for money to flow in your pockets, someone else will have fun with it and "ruin" everything.

Sega does not provide anything because sonic is just for money (besides stupid mandates), it happens to be loved because they got a good formula and design at first, yet they delocalize to third parties for all the content so whatever autist touches sonic he/she is going to imprint their bullshit.

>>529271972
Good world building is when I notice that the temple the characters were traversing is an ancient broom closet but it wasn't clear in the moment and is never called out and I'm left to wonder "were there giants here?"

>>529271972
But the faces look totally different, anon. Is it a stretch to say two separate people made similar stereotypical booby-traps?
also curb the damn reddit-spacing

>>529272760
I'm a Sonic fan and I don't have autism

>>529272672
>>529272665
Nobody saying this has any understanding of what George is going for as film masterpieces and tributes to cinema. I'll listen to Rick Worley over you faggots

just got back from being banned for two days, apparently even jannies hate amy

>>529272813
No but you have some sort of fetish or obsession or fixation I BET.

>>529272834
>What George is going for
No, what he was going for was great.
The problem is he mostly failed.

>>529272918
fuck you i hope you and every amyfag gets shit on by a bear and ripped apart by her cubs as they eat your intestines

>>529272748
>>529272849
BASED!!!!

>>529272953
No, as cinema he succeeded. As appealing to manbabies he failed, and the sequels are to Star Wars what the 2010s are to Sonic for the same faggy manchildren complaining

>faggot spamming gore again

>>529272271
This is 4 paragraphs of text zoomer

>>529273150
goofy creature.

>>529272531
It is not the point that it NEEDS an answer, but this would actually be interesting to answer.

is this the same sonamyfag who started posting gore and ban evading because of bestieposts?

>>529273119
Sure, man.

>>529272748
>>529272849
Is he ok?

The worst images of them all are Palcomix Sally btw

>>529273150
Am I creatively bankrupt if I make a jerboa OC, or is this board just more into them than the fanbase as a whole?

>>529273351
go eat a dick cyou faggot

>>529273274
I think not answering is generally better for world building.

>>529271350
only found one good image

>>529273606
It leads to the world feeling small like in IDW.

You guys should definitely shill, just laugh or ignore, things are as big as you make them out to be.

>>529273670
Lol

>>529273404
I dont think jerboas are a very common species for OCs, /sthg/ notwithstanding. The OC space is probably at least 80% Hedgehog/Canine/Feline

Be honest /sthg/, would you?

>>529273857
>You guys should definitely shill
Shill what?

>>529271972
I hate Ian as much as the next guy, but nothing you said is actually bad. World-building for its own sake can be viewed as pointless filler and as a crutch for writers who can't create interesting stories.
The best use of world-building would be to make it clear that the world is much bigger than the main cast, and to set up circumstances for the main cast to deal with.
World-building doesn't work in Sonic, though. Cause if we go into some history or backstory, windfags will screech "WTF, WHERE IS SONIC?!!". Sonic's Gary Stu nature makes it so he is not part of the world, he IS the world. As in, any and all important events happen because of him, but no events affect him directly. No one can be as powerful or more powerful than him, have as much or more impact in the world as him, or be as famous or more famous than him.
And Ian loves Windnic, so of course he'd make it so there is 0 world-building in any of his comics. The world isn't the world, it's Sonic's world, his playground.

Is Silver autistic

>>529273889
Strap in fuckees, mods won't be saving you here

>>529274091
*chill
I'm being bombarded by mosquitos and it's hot ok?

>>529274141
Yes. Even JPver is on the spectrum.

>>529274150

>>529274150
>Ian plays Sonic games
No he doesn't

>>529274371

>>529274595
Why did he turn into a muslim?

>>529274819
oh my god who the hell cares

>>529274819
> Tangle and Whisper will have no chemistry
Oh, that's fucking rich implying that Ian and Evan have succeeded in that effort

>>529275058
>saying gay subtext is a good thing
didn't these faggots call this queer baiting at one point

Starting to notice a pattern with the fag who posts the twitter screencaps, can you /sthg/?

>>529275058

HE NEED SOM MILK

>>529273404
You should make a wolf/weasel OC. You know, the actual official species? Before the autists spergged out over the designer saying "oh I designed him with a jerboa in mind" and they tried to memory-hole it because world of god is more important than word of publication to them? Because if they can become word of dantes then perhaps one day they will experience the thrill of having word of god?fuck tvtropes for ruining an entire generation of online discourse

>>529274150
>that's cuz ian flynn sees sonic as an hero
that alone should be laughable, but
>and actually plays Sonic games
they arent compatible

>>529275295

>>529275215
You mean amybestie is a xitter spammer too?

who is this Crafty person
because they seem like kind of a bitch

>>529275410

>>529275410
nobody mentioned fang

>>529275510

>>529262657
Somebody last thread posted an interview where Sonic team said they can't live up to "modern standards" for an SA3. Is this why? Because dumb ass review sites bombed SA1? Despite it sitting at 92% positive on steam?

>>529275718
NIGGA, WHAT CHARACTER ARCS? HE JUST MAKING SHIT UP.

>>529275718

Can you stop spamming xitter posts, fucking tard

TASUKETE NAKAMURA SAMA

Sega's licensing approach and overall lack of creative vision from Sonic Team has enabled various parties to pull the IP in different directions including but especially character personalities.

Holy projection
How the hell can you be sane and be so angry at Penders

>>529275912
*Phew*...okay, that's it, I'm done, what little is left of this thread is unimportant.

Just a heavy-handed reminder of how deluded Flynnfags are

>>529273748
Answering questions all the time makes worlds smaller, dingus.

Penders Lanolin would try killing Sonic while also falling in love with him

>>529256424
“Why did you come to a bakery if you wanted a salad, honey?”

>>529256281 (OP)
Eggman is Construct, Robot or Vehicle instead of just artifact creature...Why?

>>529275718
>>529275798
>how Flynn at least tries to have Tails go through character arcs
>Ken Penders would will in one issue write Tails like a wimp, then write Tails as a military officer

>post Evan issues
>post pages in the reverse order, him jobbing to a rock comes after he stands up to Kit in reality

>>529276098
Correct. Shadow is the only character with any significant direction control and the comics hate him for it.

>23 posts deleted
Kek

I was really kind of hoping to hear Lavi's comments on the newest issue but the comic book has gotten so bad that he doesn't even want to review it or the comic altogether anymore because he legitimately thinks at this point giving it any kind of critical thought or reveal is giving it more credit than it's worth. He's now officially going around saying that Ian Flynn is one of the worst fiction writers he has ever seen write a cartoon franchise and that Evan should never touch a pencil or word document to write again lol. I think IDW finally broke him mentally.

>>529275980
If the thread were longer, I'd post more just because it pisses you off

You will endure my pain

>>529276157
Penders Lanolin would suck his soul out

>>529276678
Do you also happen to hate this thread and spam gore too?

>>529276157
I mean yeah, Ken writes all women as wenches.

>>529276546
It’s getting more obvious when they’re here, makes threads too boring to engage with now

>>529276546
wtf happened
did amyfag come back

>>529256401
>>529256556
>>529256694
>>529256836
>>529256987
yeah this shit is basically incomprehensible up until the last page, like damn, that's about the sketchiest sketching ever
also, I know lanolin's official characterization is pretty annoying and not great, I agree, but ABT's idea for her is pretty shit too and would be worse as it would be just another thing like the sonic no kill thihng where they try and poke a hole in a fundamental aspect of the Sonic franchise that you can't really get any good payoff on since SEGA won't allow them to play around with it in any way so it just sucks, plus it's just way out of tone with literally everything else IDW
too many people eat it up cause it's dramatic but it wouldn't really benefit the comic or Lanolin
>>529257209
I'm not hot on his ideas either

>>529276910
Yes, amyfag is also a tailspedo and obsessed with trannies.

>>529276160
I also love your wife

>>529276910
probably not
tails posts were deleted
he was probably also samefagging

>>529277215
I think he was using the same gore pics as last time, he's the same bestie

>>529276625
Who?

>>529256401
>>529256556
>>529256694
Man, I know this are just doodles for abt, but his sketches are starting to get real hard to follow through.
Why abt has a boner for making lanolin an unhinged bitch anyway? He's the reason lanolin became an unbearable character in the first place, look how much it backfired.

>>529276910
It was Sallyfag all along, scapegoating Amyfags.

>>529277347
but i love amy

>>529277313
no, they werent

>>529275387
He truly does.

>>529256753
damn
silver was always bad

>>529277512
I think they might have added some new material

>>529268961
Wrong, vanilla Amy is popular and fun in SRB2.

>>529277691
Not always bad, never allowed to be good, cause they just fucked and rushed the debut

>>529277326
Some dude that I occasionally check up on in Twitter because he's autistic and critically reviews the Sonic comic like an autist. He actually makes a lot of good points but he harps on them like an autist way too much instead of just realizing it's better to just walk away. Looks like he's finally walking away though because the last issue was handled so poorly that he had written a whole 3 page essay about it before realizing that none of it was even worth putting out on the internet because it's become extremely clear to him that neither of the writers are actually trying to write an action comic or even a Sonic comic anymore. This should have been obvious to him years ago but hey better later than never. He also made AWF incoherently rage for a few months because he got Krazyelf to draw his comic.

Marriage

>>529256987
I mean, she is right
They were jerks and stupid about this whole Mimic event even if they were right in principle

But also ABT's Lanolin is braindead, because when it comes to killing and Sonic's morality, Lanolin had a chance to hurt Eggman during Urban Warfere and she didn't do it. She doesn't have a right to criticize Sonic if she herself doesn't want to do it

>>529275791
Are you talking about the interview that was released yesterday? Iizuka wasn’t talking about SA3 in that interview. He was talking about an adventure remake and how he thinks they’d be better off not making one because a remake of SA1 would take as much time and resources as actually making a new game apparently.

I feel like "you're just making shit up" in response to an analysis is bad faith and profoundly retarded.

>>529273404
how common a species is with fan OCs shouldn't deter anyone from making one. If you want to create a Jerboa OC anon, go for it. There's a lot of room for creativity with this species and I'd actually really like to see what you come up with and how your design differs from the other Jerboa OCs anons has made.

>>529278025
If she had killed him, Sonic would remember it and punish her later. There is no escape.

>goreposter banned
>i got also a strike for no reason
What the fuck is this bullshit evasion i did nothing.

>>529278254
Punish her by how?

>>529273404
instead of a jerboa make a kangaroo

>>529277347

>>529276689
that rabbit is obese

>>529278025
To be fair to her I don't think she assumed Sonic wouldn't even try arresting him in that situation when she's leaving. It's a miracle Whisper doesn't like pop off his head though. She totally is willing to kill him, has arguably the most bloodlust for him in the whole series (only rivaled by Zavok) and was right there too.
>>529278254
Would be worth it by all accounts. Save the world and get punished by Sonic for being a bad person tm or let it continue suffering in perpetuity, what a choice.

>>529278383
jannies have been especially retarded, I said earlier I was banned for two days for flooding when all I posted was Amy

>>529278383
Did you post a sexy blobian

>>529278154
NTA Maybe you should back up your claims with evidence.
No, "go look it up yourself" isn't one.

>>529260552
I think this has to be hyperbole on some level
but I can't shake the thought it might be more true than I like considering how much lampshading and knocking they do on the game tropes that are pretty fundamental to sonic to no real benefit like touching on eggman doing wacky things or sonic not slaughtering his enemies

>>529278383
Anon, the gore poster lives near you

>>529278643
all my foxes are gone... well see you guys tomorrow

So it's safe to say IDW is now disliked by the hardcore fans?

>>529278393
>>529278579
You guys don't seem to understand how much of a psycho IDWnic is.
If you take his toys away, Eggman will seem like the more humane one.

>>529278441
that's an angora rabbit, which are huge, sometimes bigger than some small dogs.

Question: Did Sonic in the games have an actual personality before Sonic Adventure? He's been adapted in various cartoons (and one anime) during the Classic era but was there ever a sense that he was anything more than a player avatar before Sonic Adventure? Well, beyond being Cool that is.

>>529278643
>six fingers on each hand

>"Here's how Crossworlds can still win"

I want to see Vector and Vanilla fucking

>>529278983
Yes, obviously, ever since Sonic 1. Animations actually depict personality about as well as dialogue can. Plus there's the manuals.

>>529278710
>I THOUGHT EVERYONE KNEW THE EARTH REVOLVED, WHICH MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S AT MAX A MIDDLE SCHOOLER TOPIC BUT THE WRITERS WANT ME TO BE LE GARY STU SO THEY MADE IT SO NOBODY KNEW BUT I'M GONNA POINT OUT HOW RIDICULOUS IT IS TO BOTH MAKE MYSELF SOUND SMART AND POINT OUT HOW DUMB EVERYONE IS BECAUSE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH FUCK THIS SHOW FUCK THIS SHOW FUCK THE WIND THE WIND SUCKS
I HATE THE WIND I HATE THE WIND I HATE THE WIND I HATE THE WIND I HATE THE WIND

>>529278975
That looks like a flemish giant.
Which are still huge-ass niggas.

>>529268697
hammer jump is fine but the double jump and hammer spin jump thing take all the risk out of platforming
>>529269021
they have bad habits of giving the characters shit like above
mario odyssey had it bad as well for example, don't know why creatives are obsessed with giving you a gorillion jumps beyond babyfying

>>529278437
Unpopular opinion: infinite was a cool villain and I wish he can make a comeback because his design alone was crazy good, I wish the game showed his face though, only the preview comoc did it.

>>529279202
>Plus there's the manuals.
I'm gonna have to call you on that. Reminder that the classic games had the problem of no being uniform for every region. Not to forget shit like claiming Sonic gets his speed from his shoes.

At best, the Japanese stuff could count. Whatever they didn't retcon anyway.

>>529278071
He's not wrong.
The Adventure ports are beyond fucked in vanilla form, but if that bothers you, the fanmods take care of virtually everything. A new version worth buying would have to be done from the ground up. The only remaining option that isn't costly would be to do direct Dreamcast emulations, which may or may not be in the cards if they're referencing Shuffle of all games and we know remakes were probably considered at some point via leaks.

>>529279272
shit you're probably right, that is one big bun

>>529279108
>>"Here's how Crossworlds can still win"

>>529279218
The dub changes it so instead of "The earth revolves" Sonic sarcastically says "Lemme give ya a little astronomy lesson"

The line "I thought everyone knew" is changed to "It's not my fault you're slow"

>>529279454
I mean the Japanese manuals.
>Whatever they didn't retcon anyway.
If you're a real fan, intent supercedes whatever "canon" ends up becoming.

>>529279629
EEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE...
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH OOHOHUHHUHHUHUHUHOHHAHHAHAHAHAHA.................
EHEHEHHEHEEEEEEEEEEE......
THE WIND....................................

I fucking hate Whisper's legs so much.

>>529279218
The whole point is that Sonic goes against the grain and does what he wants even if everyone else is doing one thing and following the group

>>529274116
This, setting dumping without an interesting plot is a huge trap a lot of writers fall in
Granted, IDW could very much use some more emphasis on Sonic's World as there's basically jack shit and the character might as well interact in a void 90% of the time.

>>529279454
>claiming Sonic gets his speed from his shoes.
Literally never happened.
>but
It was referring to the in-game power-up.

I honestly don't want to play Rumble anymore

>>529279614
Pride month is about to end, tick tock

>>529279732
why does this image make me sad...

Reminder that the reason Classic Sonic is in Forces is because if Sonic was ever put out of commission for a long time, the world would call forth another Sonic to substitute because the world needs a Sonic for balance.

>>529278686
Maybe you should learn how to think. Thinking is the highest function we are capable of, but most people never do it. I'm serious. Mental activity itself isn't true thinking, it has to be deliberate, focused, and creative. If it's not all three of those things, it isn't truly thought.

Every issue from here on out needs to have Sonic in the main character spotlight and I don't think even that would fix everything for me.

>>529280258
>Sonic in the main character spotlight
That's not how canon Sonic works

>>529279889
Amy...

>>529279882

>>529279875
NO, THAT'S NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS THAT ONLY SONIC IS RIGHT. THAT'S THE POINT.
THAT'S NOT EVEN SOMETHING UNIQUE TO SONIC. EVERY SINGLE MAIN CHARACTER IS FREE IN THE SENSE THAT THEY DO THE RIGHT THING EVEN IF MOST PEOPLE DISAGREE.
TAILS GOES AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT TO SAVE SONIC FROM PRISON. AMY DOES THE SAME, AND CHOOSES SONIC OVER THE WORLD. KNUCKLES IS A HERMIT AND CARES THE LEAST ABOUT WHAT OTHERS THINK. SONIC ISN'T SPECIAL AT THAT POINT.
THE POINT HERE IS THAT SONIC IS LE PERFECT GARY STU WHO IS NEVER WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING AND THAT'S THAT.
IF YOU WERE REALLY TRYING TO SHOW THAT SONIC IS LE FREE-SPIRITED, THEN THIS IS THE SINGLE MOST RETARDED MOST ARTIFICIAL WAY OF DOING IT. I COULDN'T THINK OF A DUMBER WAY EVEN IF I TRIED.
>>529279964
THE WIND THE WIND THE WIND THE WIND THE WIND

>>529280438
You don't like Sonic

>>529279528
Tbh I agree. Remakes are becoming too common place in the industry now. It’s like these companies are afraid of moving forwards. They just wanna keep looking back to the past, cashing in on people’s nostalgia. For sonic, we’ve been getting nostalgic retreads for the past 15 years. Some of them were great, but it’s time we fully move forwards. I want new level themes, new worlds, new stories. I don’t want this series to just keep relying on the past. I think an adventure remastered collection would honestly be enough.
Just as long as they actually fucking polish SADX and don’t leave it more glitchy and buggy like it is with every re release for some reason.

>>529278254
what would sonic even do?
he doesn't really punish people at all, he just stops them from doing evil shit
if you just killed eggman and immediately dropped your weapons and didn't resist, Sonic legitimately wouldn't do a damn thing to you (IDW sonic at least)
What, would he start beating you or something? No

>>529280397
It needs to be about SONIC in someway. Have him be a change of wind for characters or have it be a Saturday morning villain of the week showdowns. Whatever else other then meandering for 6 years on OCs. This is the SONIC comic.

>>529280782
Same thing he did to Surge when she even threatened to get rid of his plaything. He was being merciful, though, since she never actually did the deed.

>>529280782
all the more reason not to mess with no kill rules when it comes to sonic, it's a can of worms that does not lead to interesting story telling

You guys make me very sad. I like when Sonic is the wind and everyone looks up to him. I like when Sonic is the coolest guy and everyone else is like "Whoa, Sonic, what a guy!".

>>529281021
Sonic is Black

>>529278430

>gorespammer got a ton of phone IPs rangedbanned
>pretends this isn't their fault
i would feel bad if you weren't phonefags

I like when Blaze is drawn with big hair.

>>529280431
I clarified for you preemptively so you didn't have to waste another post on this, and that's how you repay me?

>>529280438
>THE POINT HERE IS THAT SONIC IS LE PERFECT GARY STU WHO IS NEVER WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING AND THAT'S THAT.
Well Sonic is supposed to be the guiding force to the other characters. Sort of like a demigod, but not really. A fairy. Sonic isn't supposed to be one of the characters actually going on the journey.

Amy love!

>>529280929
>Eggman is Sonic's plaything

>>529281021
I like that too. That doesn't make the Egg Moon episodes acceptable.

>bestie

>>529281235
Good girl, and good animation

>>529279909
>can't post silver in 2 more days

>cutie
how does she do it??

>>529281229
Mythic may be the word you're looking for. Sonic, Knuckles, Shadow and Blaze are all mythic in their own ways.

Fem Vector

>>529281414
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.

>>529279307
I don't think he was all that good in forces but I think he's one of those characters that could come back a lot more interesting.
I'd go with something edgy and have the phantom ruby go destroyed and now he's full of its shards and is just insane and can't really control its powers anymore. Could work for a like a dlc or something.

>>529281182
>Page 6
Notice how mine is page 2 and explicit says the Super Sneakers "give him super speed" whereas the oddly same named powerup only "makes you run faster".

Nothing like good old Story/gameplay separation. Or its just the localizers being ass, as they often are.

Sonic Rumble is fucking dead.

>>529278174
> That jerboa

Wife, leglock, six kids minimum.

>>529281816
It's power sneakers, the power-up. They named the power-up on page two that they explained on page 6. Doy.

Why can Cream the Rabbit fly with her ears, but no other rabbits can? At least with tails he has some unique genetic mutation we don't see in other fox characters. Cream just looks like a normal bunny.

Toyoda doesn't understand Blaze.

>>529280163
sonic is as free as the wind . . .
but he's not free of his destiny

>>529281980
She needs to strangle me with her thighs

>>529282140
How so

>>529282036
Cream is just not a good character.

>>529281816
Yes, I'm sure spinning through space and looping 'til you're dizzy are also integral parts of the Sonic 1 lore. Oh wait, those are also gameplay elements being referenced in the story section!

>>529281691
Sonic being a hero, means he will have to go through some version of the heroes journey.

He will have allies, rivals and mentors to help him defeating the tirant.

>>529282032
So Sonic doesn't have super speed without the power up? Do you see the word games you're playing here? Also, what power up gives him his blue spines?

Pay attention people: This is why Amerimutt garbage is to be ignored. Looking at you IDW.

>>529282140
Which one is Toyoda, what did he do?

>>529282396
Not in-game. He gets most of his speed from rolling.

>>529282036
Cream is the immaculate conception. Her being able to fly with her ears is the rabbit's equivalent to walking on water.

>>529282396
Would you be confused if a manuals said Mario had a mustache and fire flowers? It's the same as saying Sonic has blue quills and power sneakers.

>>529282396
I always interpreted it as Sonic would burn his feet if he were to run without his power sneakers.

>>529281816
Are you by any chance the same person who spread the "Mario kills Toads" theory?
>>529282585
>He gets most of his speed from rolling.
I have a feeling the redditspacer didn't even play a version of Sonic 1 without the Spin Dash.

>>529282638
>Echidna Hyperborea
>Literally called the lost tribe

>>529282638
Echidnas in sonic are at least consistent in that they all seem to be able to glide. Or at least the only other one we see in actual gameplay (tikal in sa2 battle mode) can.

>>529282292
I always got the impression he was a "cool-headed" Blaze fan, but he just made this tweet.

>>529282852
That's not reddit spacing, retard. You're trying way too hard.
>didn't even play a version of Sonic 1 without the Spin Dash.
Rolling =/= spindashing, retard. You get the most speed when you roll intelligently.

>>529280723
I think an official remaster collection from Sega would be bad because the current Steam versions of the Adventure games, that have years worth of fan mod support geared to them, would be delisted as a result and we would end up with a GTA 3 Definitive Edition situation where years of fan mod support would be lost
I think what's best is if Sega keeps the current versions they have available and more importantly affordable, the fans have already more or less "remastered" them better than Sega probably could

>Sonic is supposed to be short tempered
>The only game that illustrates this at all is Sonic Adventure 2
>The only animation that features this is the OVA
>All japanese Sonic media make him laid back to the point that he is nearly untrollable
>Western Sonic media that give him any other temper also discard most of his other important character traits

>>529282980
But he made picrel. This gets Blaze enough doesn't it?

>>529282980
But she is usually cool, isn't she? She's a burning flame inside but she's usually got this cool self-mastery thing going on. Sometimes she becomes more ferocious or more shy but she is usually cool, I think.

>>529282824
That's how the early lore interpreted it. Even the OVA referenced it.

>>529283169
Make a list of all his character traits, anon. For future reference

>>529283169
Knuckles can probably troll Sonic to hell and back

>>529283169
The short temper thing is really supposed to mean impatient

>>529283464
>Wind
>Breeze
>Draft
>Current
>Gust
Any fucking questions?

>>529283169
>>The only game that illustrates this at all is Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic 1 - 3K, idle animations. But you are right in your greater point, they don't make Sonic impatient and prickly enough anymore. Forces and Frontiers has him act like he's practically a different person.

>>529283430
OVA still the best adaptation

>>529283464
Lists don't cut it, it would have to be a full writeup.

>>529277123
I’m not sure how he’d handle someone saying that

>>529283607
This is the kind of fan the west created

>>529283607
>implying Sonic would waste his time on social media

>>529283607
Why are twitter fags so obsessed with age? “He’s 15 of course he old say that.” Bitch he’s a fictional anthropomorphic hedgehog that runs really fucking fast. Why are we bringing realism into this?????

>>529283318
This is more of what I would expect from Blaze, but this isn't cool-headed at all.

>>529283409
I don't see "stoicism" as being cool-headed. Outwardly yes but inwardly no. She's supposed to be a hot-headed stoic.

>>529283607
I'm glad the age wipe happened as it was just retarded and made no sense
All you gotta know is that character like cream and tails are younger than the rest of them boom done

>>529283626
they keep sanding off the edges of his personality making him more and more generic good friendly guy to the point where he has 0 flaws

>>529283140
Tbf they could handle it like sonic generations where the Original is still available to buy via the collection pack. There’s always a chance they could just Straight up delist them though. I guess I was more thinking of having them on modern consoles like the switch 2, ps5, and Xbox. But yeah, I wouldn’t want the current versions on steam getting delisted because of sega’s dumbass greed.

>>529283430
>more younger fans know about the sneezing than the shoes
Thanks, YouTube! Way past cool.

>>529257612
My guess is this takes place right after Issue 75. Despite Lanolin apologizing to them directly, she has a mental snap behind closed doors. I don't blame her, she did nothing fucking wrong and they strung her up for nothing.

>>529281980
You'll inherit Fang's tax fraud debts when he dies.

>>529284278
It's like the 06 allscript says.

>>529285367
Lanolin got the short end of the stick as an apology to fans, because she was pretty hated during that arc. It's why she is most likely going back to background character status.

Japanese Sonic is easy to write. He doesn't really use a lot of specific phrases or slang. When he is feeling good he will say "I feel good'". You never have to worry about adding some quirk to it.

Vector
Thunderbolt
Pane
Chip
Barby
Hershey

>>529277924
Okay I am going to inform him you are looking for him.

>>529281414
>>529281735
Duofag will never beat the bot allegations.

The horror.

Krack still nowhere in sight, good.

>>529287985
who

>>529287982
Middle

http://x.com/Fravoccado/status/1939337162195169616

When Bartleby comes to Blitz, it's the bestie box forever for Amy.

>>529288314
I kinda like the idea of cream becoming like a goth tomboy character that swears sometimes because of shadow's influence

Krack is to Shadaria as Richmunk is to Sonally

>>529286041
Sure, but it's a problem of focus and taste and I think Toyoda focuses more on the outward appearance rather than her inner emotions. "Charm of an older woman" and all that.

>>529288329
What was his plan here?

If Sally came back, she would be an abusive crying lesbian

http://x.com/nuinu_17/status/1939324963493720402

pretty gay

>>529278941
Even if Redeemnic kills you for it, eliminating Eggman is such a net positive for everyone that it's totally worth it.

If IDW is selling poorly, why do Tangle and Whisper have more merch than most of the classic cast and some modern characters like Tikal and Black Doom?

>>529289809
Chris has more merch than Tangle and Whisper

who would win, Shadow or Gaia

Speaking of it selling poorly, do we have tangible sales data on IDW Sonic? Not talking about the stock but actual sales, I'm not very knowledgeable on comic sales so I wouldn't know where to get those.

>>529289809
I can find shirts, plushies, bag clips of Mighty and Ray, what are you talking about?

>>529290175
I have sales data but not any exact figures just how it places on the charts, no one cares though.

>>529289809
You don't have to like IDW to like tangle and whisper.

>>529289963
Yes. Sonic X was a big success and even treated by some people like Naka as closest to the vision for Sonic.

>>529290286
That's still helpful for getting a better picture, I'm interested.

>>529290404

>>529290197
I said most of the classic cast. Not all of them.

Sonic fucked this.

>>529288804
Good comparison

>>529290527
People will scream this means the comic deserves its own game or adaptation.

>>529290530
Witchcart is not popular.
Honey is not owned by Sonic Team.
Trip is a new character.


I answered your questions.

>>529290527
>>529290652
Interesting, thank you anon.

How to write Sonic Cheat Codes:

>Don't make him talk much. Sonic in the games doesn't have that many lines.
>When he does talk, make him say things literally anyone can say. Almost all of Sonic's japanese dialogue is completely devoid of exaggeration. "That's a nice view" "That water looks dangerous"
>NO contemporary slang. Ever. Idioms are fine. "Dude" "Cool" are fine
>If you want to emulate the dub of the adventure games, the occasional 90s slang term is acceptable
>Keep the jokes to a minimum. Sonic isn't even considered funny in-universe when he starts regularly making jokes in the 2010s.
>Do not overuse "wind". Sonic is the wind. He doesn't say "I'm the wind". Sonic comparing himself to the wind needs to be prompted by another character
>Do not take "Short tempered" literally. He will occasionally show inconsequential anger at another character. That is all. The longest Sonic has ever been stressed in an actual Sonic game is Sonic Lost World when Tails was captured
>Do not fall for the Sonic X meme. There's only a small handful of times where Sonic is actually sleeping in public in the games. The games do not actually explore how often this is.
>NO. SHIPPING
>The ladies man comment will manifest in his body language. Never portray Sonic actively pursuing a relationship
>Sonic is not above insults, lecturing, complaining, chastising, or judging in general. But it's rare. Notable examples happen in games like Sonic Battle and Forces
>Don't try and balance his "Gary Stu" ness. It's pointless if you actually want to authentically capture how Sonic Team does it.
>Discard every Sonic from western media. Every single one.
>Do not assume that because something is japanese, that it represents Sonic's personality in the games. Sonic isn't afraid of water like in Sonic X and he has never been shown to intentionally manipulate Amy for any reason.

>>529290527
>doing Spawn sales
IDW isn't flopping.

>>529290817
It is also not doing amazingly.

>>529283607
Surgefags unironically think this is in character for Sonic btw.

>>529290926
The games don't do amazingly either. Even though Crash 4 flopped, Sonic's games released since each sold less than it.

>>529290817
It only started doing those sales since the end of 2024.

Sonic was not notable to enter the top 200 on a regular basis before then.

>>529291170
Sonic games at least hit sales charts

>>529286041
That's a shoddy translation, here's a better one:
>■BLAZE (Blaze)■
>She manipulates and protects the ‘Sol Emeralds’ (tentative name - items that are counterparts to the Chaos Emeralds). In an alternate world, she takes on the combined roles of Sonic and Knuckles. Usually, she is calm and composed, but it feels like she suppresses her hidden emotions with her rationality. When she burns with anger and her restraint is broken, she becomes quite terrifying.
>She is a Tsundere type. She is extremely shy and tends to create a barrier between herself and others at first.
>(However, once that barrier is overcome, she becomes excessively intimate)
>Normally, she wears a cloak. It serves as a symbol of self-restraint, reminding her not to recklessly use her fire-controlling abilities, which caused her to be bullied in her childhood. However, when something happens, she throws off her cloak and reveals a surprisingly active side.
>Underneath the cloak, she hides a costume reminiscent of the Takarazuka Revue! Apparently, she is self-conscious about her lack of a chest... (She becomes extremely angry when this is pointed out).
>14 years old.

>>529291170
DC X Sonic is actually selling REALLY well

>>529289809
Ian begging and stomping his feet.

>IDW Sonic sells pretty okay
>DC x Sonic was reprinted 3 or 4 times
this general lost

>>529291002
This is in character for Sonic

>>529291742
DC X Sonic is an actual success. IDW sells very mediocre. There is a lot of slop that sells better than it like Thundercats and Space Ghost.

>>529291490
Chocolate milk

forever besties

Look, let's cut the cope. You cannot in good faith call IDW Sonic a "massive success." The entire argument is built on motivated reasoning.

First, context matters. The comic industry is a dying market. Bragging about cracking the top 200 here is like being the tallest kid in kindergarten. The bar is on the floor.

Second, it's a success for IDW. That's the key part everyone ignores. They're a publisher of licensed books and nearly going out of business. So yeah, it probably sells better than their 30th Star Trek comic. It's not competing with Batman. It's competing with My Little Pony.

And the biggest point: the online engagement is completely disconnected from reality. There's a huge, terminally online fanbase that will defend this book to the death, but they don't actually buy it. You have huge social media accounts for news, endless discourse, but the book itself struggles to even hit the top 120.

It's a mid-tier book for a mid-tier publisher in a collapsing industry. Calling it anything more is just bad-faith cope.

>>529291843
>They have to resort to collabing with another shitter franchise to even make some profit.
>Except its the other way around
Man if I had a nickle for everytime this has happened..

When was the last time Sonic did snowboarding that wasn't a callback to an older game?

>>529288329
they need to kiss

Come join us in Greelans SRK2 server /sthg/ we need some players

>>529292397
The comic is still profitable but only because IDW is produced incredibly cheaply like every publisher that is not Marvel, DC, Image, or Dark Horse.

Understand the entire comics division reported a massive loss just because TMNT did not meet expectations. We are talking like 1.8 million dollar loss.
https://bleedingcool.com/comics/idw-publishing-states-they-will-definitely-be-around-for-another-year/

What happened to her?

>>529292352
Also worth noting that people who do care simply just read it off a pirating website. Its a lot fucking easier and I'm not half assed to pay 4.99 per book that I'm only planning to read once at most.

tangle is literally just movienic

>>529286495
One of Japanese Sonic's quirks is that he speaks English sometimes, which has its own connotations unique to Japanese popular culture
https://x.com/TurboJehtt/status/1874175583216951555/video/1
How should a English localization team handle this while maintaining intent?

>>529292692
it's pretty fucking bright in this vault

>>529291250
Doesn't that mean the comic is doing better overtime?

>>529292761
Throwing this into the bin of "not possible". You can't overlay a translation unto itself and exaggerating the concept only buries it further.

>>529292734
I mentioned that

>>529292970
I would say that is more the industry dying more and more.

>>529293070
based

>>529293014
Well in the case of terminally ill retards on Xitter yes, they don't buy/read. But those who do care have less of an incentive when they could just read this slop for free without giving them a cent. So you really only have a small percentage of people that care enough to read, let alone buy it.

>>529293227
Well yeah but the funny part is they're the ones who are most eager to defend the company doing well

>>529293269
Honestly here's a stupid question I want to ask. But is there even an affordable way to read these comics without having to buy them individually/subscription service? Manga is pretty vulnerable to the same issues but at least theyre making SOME effort to curve more people into reading with profits Ala subs. If IDW don't really have any system in place besides "buy our comics.." then they absolutely partially deserve the terrible sales relative to the industry at large.

>>529293552
Wait until they end up on webtoon.

Even the compilations are not that cheap

>>529293552 (me)
Besides the comics being a train wreck of issues and character molestation. But that feels like a particular issue rather than the comic book stuff at large.

Someone on Twitter actually argued it is good IDW Sonic sells medicore because selling well is uncool.

>>529291679
The company would still have to be the one to initiate it. Creatives that want merch and come up with plans for it don't always get it.

>>529292761
>turbojehtt
Even if you hadn't posted a Twitter link, I don't care about what he has to say at all.

>>529293070
Rouge gets a double bestie box

>>529293284
I really love this comic

>>529293669
>Using webtroon who purposely gate chapters for fast pass shit.
No thanks, I'll stick to reading it free.

>>529292692
holy shit...
the most realistic depiction of a panic attack in comics...

Best ship

>>529294326
The most realistic depiction of a panic attack in any Sonic medium...

hot take: i have never seen anything wrong with sonic's wind characterization even when it is used to make other characters look incompetent or dumb. He is the main character.

>>529294513
The most realistic depiction of a panic attack in Sonic...

>>529292692
This is from the future. Crossworlds flopped before the Tangle and Whisper DLC released while Blade of Courage became a massive hit and replaced IDW. Ian and Evan also tried pulling a joint Penders, but lost. Ian became homeless and Evan went missing after a visit from SoJ during the production of a new Yakuza game.

>>529292972
I feel like originally localization teams used American slang, but this ages too fast
Now they use quips which age a little less and are easier to contextualize within a story, but some fans find it annoying
Must be a difficult thing to navigate since it been a staple of Sonic's character since 1990

>>529285367
But it makes her look like a two-faced bitch, though.

half-lids

>>529294793

>>529288685
ive been saying that for months, if not years at this point

>>529294908
what a lot of modern anime does is literally just have the captions break the fourth wall and tell you that the character is speaking english or acknowledge it in some other way

>>529295061
Nice headband, dorkus

>>529295061
AAR came up with that idea for an older cream and people got annoyed at it.

>>529294793
hug the bug

how many characters (in all sonic media) have big boobs canonically?

>>529295609
my oc

>>529295609
>all sonic media
Westshit isn't Sonic.

>>529288314
>LOL WHAT IF VANILLA ACTS LIKE NICOLE WATTERSON
Fuck off.

>>529295609
off the top of my head
>rouge
>bunnie
>whisper (had to be toned down by ST's request because she was starting to overshadow rouge in the tits department)
>lanolin

>>529295373
Bug is for hugging and carrying

>>529295717
The trope existed before Nicole Watterson, babe. And it's non-canon anyway so you're safe to ignore it.

>>529290610
Yuta did too.

>>529295717
i am also getting tired of official media doing fanfictionisms

>>529295764
Why do whispers tits have to be nerfed but not lanolins?

Need more Sonic Team side games.

>>529296461
Hey, look, that's me.

>>529296582
For what?

>>529295982
Don't call her babe, you pig

Shadally?

>>529292457
In terms of Sonic Team creations, Sonic 06. In terms of Dimps creations, Lost World.

Manic

>>529296518
no idea, maybe the quality control guys just stopped caring

>>529293070
Men franchise

Spongechad please forgive me

>>529288314
Those pics of vanilla getting mad at shadow for making cream learn bad behavior always make me laugh.
Bonus points of shadow is acting like her stepfather.

>>529297576
yeah, rape correction is needed

>>529294398
it's missing someone important

>>529296657
For FUN

i just finished sonic underground. 10/10. i do not have standards i love sonic.

>>529297954
But there's no guarantee they would be fun.

>>529297576
>>529294990

>>529283430

Was this bro the Chuck of the OVA?

>>529290527
Somic annual 2024?, we didn't have an annual last year.

>>529298786
Yes we did it had the Diamond Cutter story and the one where Knuckles fantasizes about Sonic and Rouge.

>>529296518
>>529297171
Yeah kinda strange lanolin bossom got upgraded while whispering got censored, i guess is because technically, lanolin os full covered while whisper is actually showing skin, the same with rouge.
Kinda suck, because abt drawing was marvelous.

>>529298891
Oh yeah, you're right, I forgot. I even got it at my local comic shop, my mistake.

>>529298609
Somebody call krack

Vanilla is making me chicken keema tonight.

What is that?

>>529299295
>idw is so boring even people who've read the comics have forgotten of their existence
holy grimola

>>529294994

>>529294398
We need more werehog rape correction

>>529299591
Geez man, I said it as a casual thing. Is fine you hate it, but don't change the context of my post

Amy Rose love!

Things I shouldn't have read when I was young:
That comic where Shadow has sex fantasies about Rouge and Sally and then goes to jail and rapes rouge after Amy sucks his dick

That fanfic where Amy is a tranny who Sonic beats up

That comic where Nicole confesses she loves Sonic and then they fuck

That comic where Vanilla comes out of the Shadow and wakes up Sonic and then accidentally falls onto Sonic's dick until he cums inside her
I hadn't even read the Archie comics when I saw these things.

>>529299591
Winter Jam was so forgettable that the only thing i remember from is are the TMoStH cameos and add for Dream Team.

>>529295145
Its funny, I think that's actually what happens in that "interview" I posted, the interviewer notes Sonics use of English; but if this article was translated into English the intended surprise of the culture clash would have less impact, unless the English was replaced with some other language
Maybe Sonic was always meant to be Speedy Gonzales

>>529300014
How the fuck do the mandates on the movies work? They totally rewrote the plot of SA2, changed Shadow's backstory and rewrote Gerald's character entirely

>>529301075
Here are all the movie mandates I am aware of
>Sonic cannot ask for help (defied)
>Sonic must be a space alien (established movie 1 onward)
>Shadow cannot be funny
>The master emerald cannot be used by Sonic to go Super

Sauce: https://www.everand.com/podcast/594395948/16-Writing-the-Sonic-Movies-w-PAT-CASEY

>>529301273
>>Shadow cannot be funny
REVENGE GUAC

>>529300892
fuck off shitverfag

>>529301075
There's no mandates on the movie due to their massive success. Fowler could easily introduce Sally and have her kill Tails, which Sega won't even stop him.

>>529294908
>slang
In context, it's supposed to be culturally trendy/"cool" that Sonic peppers in some English, so that's pretty much all you can do. Problem is that you have to be careful not to go overboard or you risk affecting the characterization too much.
Alternate idea: you can emphasize that Sonic's a world traveler and would pick up words from the places he's traveled to. This doesn't usually work unless the character's supposed to be a foreigner, though, and they oddly enough do this to Robotnik in the live-action movies.

>>529301273
>Sonic cannot ask for help (defied)
>The master emerald cannot be used by Sonic to go Super
But these are dumb.

>>529301476
the master emerald one is annoying because the workaround they came up with basically results in the same thing

>>529294908
there is no way to do this because in english speaking countries, being able to speak another language doesn't translate to being stereotypically cool.

>>529301075
>>529301273
They took a massive shit on SA1 and 06 with the Wade show. At the very least they have guidelines and no strict mandates to adhere to game lore.

This threat sucks
Torkoal time

>>529301362
He says it seriously, though. Like when he says the latina should kill the latinos. It's the Knuckles Clause.

>>529287982
Source?

Haven't seen it, but why do you all call it the Wade show?

>>529301958
Wade is the main character, not Knuckles

Knuckles

Sonic doesn't have a penis

>>529301958
Wade is the true main character and Knuckles is his funny animal pet.

>>529301273
>>529301476
oh what they suddenly care a bout the master emerald now?

sonegg

Is it Knuckles time?

>>529302094
They don't want people to think Sonic can use it because it's supposed to be Knuckles' thing. I still don't believe they even have a reason for it other than "he just can't".

Are there any takes on Zavok from our drawfriends?

>>529300492
If Werehog Sonic the Hedgehog is named Sonic the Werehog, what would Werehog Amy Rose be? Hoggy Rose? Amy Were?
Bonus food for thought: Miles "Tails" Prower, and Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik, Charmy Bee, and whoever else has a nonstandard name format.

>>529301273
>>529301362
> Shadow cannot be funny
"Gabriella should kill them both. She's not a prize to be won"

>>529302410
Is going super about getting a bunch of Chaos energy or is it about getting the seven rocks? if it's the former then you shouldn't even need seven Chaos Emeralds to do it.

Yuji Naka and Ken Penders are forced to work on a Sonic project together, how does it go?

I just realized that batman could make it to crossworlds because of the DC crossover

>>529302676
It collapses because Penders wants to focus on Knuckles too much.

>>529302706
Picrel is coming closer to becoming a reality

General seems pretty slow today. To the anons who are here, I hope you're doing okay

>>529301273
So pretty much they said "fuck it" because SEGA renegged on two-worlds and now they're stuck with a dated lore.

The movies have never once been game accurate from the introduction of the owl mom. Why do people think they're ever going to follow the games?

This general is made out of 4 people

>>529303162
Movie 4 is a time travel story so they could use it to Flashpoint the movieverse and sync it with the games.

>>529303148
Thanks, anon! Hope you're having a good one!

it's sad that there are people who thought sega wasn't being literal about 2 worlds. you guys had hope lol.

OKAY ANONS TIME TO DROP A TRUTH NUKE.

ELISE AND BELLE HAVE THE SAME REPUTATION AT THIS POINT IN THE FANBASE.

>>529276625
Laviarray said he will have a video on issue 79 by the end of this week.

>>529303695
Damn gingers

>>529302667
It's presumably both? But SA1 showed us that even drained of their negative energy, the Chaos Emeralds can still unlock a Super form so even in that state they still have plenty of juice.

But even if it was a numbers game, the ME still has access to presumably much more Chaos energy by itself than the seven. So using the ME should still unlock Super or even a stronger form because we'll likely never know how many Chaos Emeralds you'd need to match the ME's strength.

>>529303695
At least Elise doesn't have blatant daddy issues

boring thread today huh?

>>529256281 (OP)
>literally no Green creature
This franchise really has lost its way from its environmentalist roots. Very sad.

>>529303695
nah elise is far more well-liked

You guys ever crush on the background girls?

>>529303505
>Sonic X invented two worlds
>then it became canon so SEGA could vault humans after Sonic X made everybody hate them

>>529303695
No
Belle has a better one

>>529303896
yup, though it's still better than the thread last night.

>>529303902
Cute pic. Too bad I hate postboot Antoine's design. Looks too much like another fox.

This is how newfans should get into the series.

>>529304268
>letting newfans play Sonic Heroes or Sonic 06
That's a great way to get them to leave the series

>>529304181
Evan openly admitted Belle was hated. You know it is bad when even she is saying it.

>>529302557
>what would Werehog Amy Rose be
Rosy the Werehog
>Miles "Tails" Prower
Miles Prowler

>>529304393
Use P-06 for 06.

>>529303162
>>529304009
Wasn't Mobius always just future-Earth though? They could incorporate that in the film to write themselves out of two-worlds. In fact, it'd be perfect if Amy's a time-traveler.

>>529303505
When exactly did two Worlds become official though? We know it was decanonised sometime in the 2020s thanks to Tailstube.

>>529303880
>But SA1 showed us that even drained of their negative energy, the Chaos Emeralds can still unlock a Super form so even in that state they still have plenty of juice.
Because Super Sonic comes from the positive energy, not the negative.

>>529304000
Oh, wait'll you hear the story behind this one

>>529304643
Or have the 2 worlds merge

>>529304000
Lanolin is the poster child against doing this ever again.

>>529304653
It was official before forces and made unofficial before frontiers

>>529303021
Imagine the shit-storm if Steven Universe and Loud House got into Crossworlds.

>>529304268
>draggin ball
Opinion discarded.

>>529298106
Well sure but I know I don't want Frontiers 2 or 3 because I hate open world games.

>>529304643
>Wasn't Mobius always just future-Earth though?
Mobius doesn't exist like that in the games, it's literally another planet separated from Sonic's Earth and Sonic's Earth always had humans, animals and the furries which are treated as regular people.

>They could incorporate that in the film to write themselves out of two-worlds. In fact, it'd be perfect if Amy's a time-traveler.
No fucking way would they fight the rights for Mobius from Archie. At most they would Flashpoint the universe so humans and furries live together on Earth.

>>529301861
Guessing the mandate means he can't be a clown.

>>529304653
It became official around the time Colors was the newest entry. The main reason for why the mandate even exists was to make sure that humans cannot appear in future entries due to backlash from Classic Era fans. It's why Generations, Lost World, Boom, Sonic 4: Episode 1+2, and Forces didn't have them.

i'm going to fuck sally like a wild animal

>>529305046
>the furries which are treated as regular people.
Inter-species relationships?

>>529301273
>The master emerald cannot be used by Sonic to go Super
Only MECHA Chadnic is allowed to use it to go Super.

>>529305381
>The main reason for why the mandate even exists was to make sure that humans cannot appear in future entries due to backlash from Classic Era fans
Listening to millenial nerds ruined Sonic.

we don't have enough lewd artists on sthg to draw boobies and breasts anymore

>>529305734
Just ask Duo.

>>529303239
THAT SELFISH DEED
IS NOT FREEDOM

>>529305810
Alright, Shadougefags and Shadamyfags using Silver as a trojan horse needs to die. Unironically. It's so fucking lame.

>>529303239
Yea, the moment Krack finally left for a few days this place activity died by 1/3rd and now that no one is biting Duo's bait he's gotten bored and started posting less which makes it painfully obvious how few of us are actually here. I'm pretty sure I know most of you on Discord as is.

>>529305971
It isn't limited to those two though, Silver is just the franchise ship child as long as Sonic or Shadow is involved.

>>529305591
But millennials (me) love the adventure games, they have plenty of humans.

>>529305971
He's based on Trunks and Trunks was famous for canonizing Vegeta/Bulma. Of course shippers will jump at the chance to push the agenda

I liked the manga, i hope we get manganic kino soon.

>>529306352
Vegeta/Shadow comparisons make sense. The Sonic character most similar to Bulma isn't canon and never will be. Rouge Bulma comparisons are extremely forced but reasonable on a surface level. Amy Bulma comparisons are delusional.

Shippers are dumb.