Hotfix edition

Previously on /coopg/ : >>529285435


>Latest News/Updates:

Vermintide 2:
New Map: The Well of Dreams - Live now! Skulls In-game Event - Patch 6.6.0
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-map-the-well-of-dreams-live-now-skulls-in-game-event-patch-6-6-0/108063

Darktide:
Free Update: Battle for Tertium - Out Now! (Patch Notes)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/free-update-battle-for-tertium-out-now-patch-notes/109117
Hotfix #70 (1.8.2)
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-70-1-8-2/110096

>Acknowledged but not really discussed
Ready Or Not
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
SCP: 5K
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Helldivers 2
Space Marine 2
Remnant 2
Payday 3
Back4Blood
Deep Rock Galactic
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
The Forever Winter
Firebreak
Wildgate
and others

>Future games
Killing Floor 3 - delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1430190/view/499441143215293470
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Jump Ship - TBA Demo Out

Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

I AM ADAMANT

whens coo-pegging edition????

Did they fix pinpoint on the shotpistol?

>>529384604
seeing every other post or more being about some cancerous snoy turd was annoying. It's good that they fucked off. Balkanization is always good and the more specialized generals/boards are the better

ATTENTION /COOPG/ERS

>>529385493 (OP)
>play hotfix
>crash within 30 minutes
Amazing.

Cadia?
More like CACAdia!

Okay - I just tested an Auric without Concussion.

All of the passive effects stay up 100% of the time even without it because of the dog. Even if you do nothing, the dog can keep up your passive effects 100% of the time.

The only talent that seemed "iffy" was the 15% Rending on stagger, but you have Three Remote Detonations, dog to stagger and apply it and your own 10 second CD charge as well as two charges to Shield Alt.
Testing it further in the Meat Grinder, I didn't notice a change in DPS or the amount of hits it took to use it.

tldr; concussion isn't worth it if you have dog, break the line and shield

FELLAS, THE DOG BLEED TALENT NOW CONSISTENTLY APPLIES TO THE POUNCED TARGET
WE'RE BACK

Where Veteran polearm?

>>529385967
Where Zealot chain glaive?

>>529385967
everyone should get a powered polearm
psyker gets a force spear/javelin that can be thrown

>>529386224
>psyker gets a force spear/javelin that can be thrown
Will it have infinite cleave?

>>529386264
That's just a Voidstrike staff with extra steps.

Zealots get a meltagun, grenade launcher for arbeetus and hotshot lasgun for veteran.

Yay or nay?

Do you guys like the Darktide portrayal of plasma? I hate that there's no visible projectile, personally.

>>529385879
Yeah I kinda thought about ditching it
Someone (probably mr e lol) said concussive makes your hit count as staggering and it's complete bs, I tested it in psykhanium, force of will doesn't trigger off first hit on crusher in psykhanium. It does exactly what it says it does, and in some builds it's not much.

>>529386476
Just give us something, Fartshark.

>>529386476
and Ogryn gets Heavy Melta, Autocannon and Multilaser yeah?

>>529386476
>hotshot
never ever. it needs a backpack. enjoy your recon lasguns.

>>529386704
yea god forbid it clips with any of the shitty dufflebag cosmetics.

>>529386615
i want my heavy bolter and plasmacannon.

https://files.catbox.moe/rmhhrl.mp4

Wow... The fix to Razor-Jaw Augment is kinda insane. As long as your dog has a target, even if you don't select something and it is attacking on it's own, EVEN IT'S RUNNING AROUND AND MOVING causes Bleed.

>>529386835
It now solos bosses lol

>>529386224
>>529386264
honestly a blitz or ranged weapon that makes a warp-spear and just hurls it across the map, piercing anything including cover

>>529386704
>it needs a backpack.
GW recently released those jump pack scions, and they have powerpack fed hotshot lasguns with no cables.

>>529386970
Hey, hi there. No thanks.

>>529386970
oh shit I forgot about those. hotshot lasgun when?

Any cosmetics for next week in the hotfix?

>>529386835
Holy shit, that's amazing.

>>529386970
fat fucking powerpack

>>529386835
https://streamable.com/u6yh77
I don't know if it's just me, but Catbox is kinda slow so I uploaded it to streamable too.

>>529387353
its not, thanks.

>Psyker: No citizen is above the Lex Atoma. You'd all do well to remember that.
>Zealot: There is a higher law even than the Lex Atoma.
>Arbitrator 1: ....
>Arbitrator 2: ....
Fun interactions Fatshark.

>>529386970
no backpack = no buy, backpack fed weapons are kino of the highest order

Did they fix the bolt pistol bleed dog explosion? I just did it and i swear it only applied 4 stacks

I wish Thunder Hammers weren't so underwhelming. It'd rather they weren't in the game at all desu.

>>529387773
The dialogue lines are currently bugged I'm pretty sure, I've noticed that half of the vet lines don't even play anymore no matter what when they used to go off every mission.

>>529388121
Check it in the Meat Grinder and then get back to us.

>>529388306
My arby tried starting a conversation with an ogryn that was captured, so they're pretty bugged, yes.
>THERE'S ONLY TWO KINDS OF OGRYN
Well, three if you count captured ones.

>>529388121
>>529388336
It still fully stacks puncture.

>>529388417
>DESPITE BEING 31% OF THE MOURNINGSTAR POPULATION OGRYN COMMIT 90% OF ALL THE AMMO THEFT
What did the Arbitrator mean by this?

>>529388570
That rashuns were cut again, sah.

Now that the dust has settled, I will say it once more - update did nothing and Arbites is a mid addition at best
>Buffs to Cata Sword, Shotguns, Eviscerators, Shock Mauls nobody would even notice if they weren't gloated about
>Nerfs to Plasma and Dueling Sword still aren't here yet
>Arbites is a boring class they had no idea for beyond dog. All keystones and abilities are generic and reused from other classes
>Dog is so hands off for a pet class it's actually boring too. Sienna Necromancer actually gets third "weapon" which lets her give more indepth commands to their Skellies, tell them to guard or attack something, summon them or spend them. With Arbites you just spam tag and honestly don't even have to
>He gets 4 new weapons and doesn't even share them with other classes. Another Shotgun and another Shock Maul, but specific for Arbite are both lazy and disappointing. Shield and Maul already exited for Ogryn in a shockless version so it's hardly a new thing. Shield and Pistol is the only legit new addition and why couldn't we get a shieldless version of it while at it? Other tabletop weapons which could be shared with other classes and arrive with Arbites didn't. And amount of weapons he has access to is small too. Ogryn has Power Maul he could share to Arbites and doesn't either
>Class feels super overpowered and makes a cakewalk out of everything and him being able to ignore disablers fucks with gameplay and as such your teammates playstyle. Disablers exist for a good reason in this genre
>Pitiful selection of cosmetics even, no commissary even, Fatshit continues to be shameless with their paypig slopshop selling generic helmet with visor lifted for real money, on top of damn deluxe edition being a thing and dlc being overpriced in general for what it offers
>Uglier mission selection
I guess it's better for Arbites to exists than not to, but this dlc and update gets off easy due to how starved playerbase is for Fatshark to do anything at all with this game.

>>529388570
>AFRICANUS 13-90, MANDATED EDICT: ASPHYXIATION

>>529388531
>>529388121
Just tested. Looks like it's only 4 stacks. Shadownerf but only partial fix.

Guess this is "intended" but the infinite stacking Bleed on Shock is not.

>>529388531
that will never be fixed, they never fixed uncanny working for nades/zealot knifes etc., they fundamental system is fucked so never ever

>>529388158
Fucked up to think that these are the ULTRA buffed thammers, and they were very well praised compared to their old state.

thoughts on borderlands 3? don't care about the story just want a "diablo shooter" and this is the closest

>>529388709
The zealots who played thammer pre-buff were rather special.
Then again most zealots are degenerate specials.

>>529388703
I turned health bars on in a normal game and saw my bleed stacks quickly tick up to 16. You need to keep holding the bolter, not immediately swap off of it.

>>529388158
i miss the old crucis horizontal attack. way easier to adjust aim for elevation than traversal

>>529388794
Probably the worst gunplay in any looter shooter

>>529388794
Tuned out of borderlands after 2. All I've seen since is clips/screenshots with zoom zoom cringe humour.

>>529386704
It doesn't need a backpack.

>>529388794
I don't give money to a studio that actively hates me, nor do I care for their bulletsponge "gameplay".

>>529388794
This is the game you want

Felinid update when?
>:3c

>>529389119

So - does the Dog Damage stuff affect the bleed? I can't tell.

>>529388794
The moving and shooting and looting is the best out of any Borderlands, but it suffers heavily from "stop after every 3 minutes to listen to 2 minutes of unfunny dialogue before you can proceed".
You can turn dialogue volume to 0%, but you're still stuck there unable to press a button until they stop talking. And this is every mission, every side mission.

>>529389036
Soulless" shoot a thing that doesn't even react" in a soulless void isn't what he wants.

PATCHOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>529388794
shooting is fun and the visuals are an improvment. Talents aren't great in coop compared to presequel

>>529388531
>>529388830
another niggerlicious bug turned feature

I wish Dorktide monetization wasn't the peak of jewishness so I could buy the Cadian 110st armor with a clear conscience.

>>529389353
>110st

>>529386704
>it needs a backpack
Good thing we have a fucking backpack slot then.

>>529389241
Sounds like you have a severe case of the faggots

>>529389387
fuck. I was thinking about 101st for some reason.

>Fixed an issue where Psyker 'on critical hit' talents would trigger when burn stacks are active on enemies.
siblings...
our fire builds have been utterly demolished

>>529388794
Takagawa jr was a good vilain and the streamer girl gave me a boner

The inferno missions are fucking impossible.

>>529389683
No, you're just bad

>>529389036
Remnant was fun. I can't put my finger on what exactly I hated about Remnant 2 but it fucking sucked ass.

>>529389683
they look and feel scarier than they actually are

failed joining server
>>529389683
what do you even struggle with?

>>529388794
Shadow Warrior 2 might be your game.

>>529389759
It's because they got rid of the simple levels and turned everything into a fucking slog. 90% of the items are also hidden behind inane bullshit nobody would ever do like waiting an hour (real time) for some fucking door to open.

>>529388679

is there a way to not quickplay into maelstrom that not already have 2 people dead and spawn me with silver of hp

>>529389850
Dying

Best female arbitrator voice? It's hard to tell with the bugged dialogue but Authoritarian seems boring so far and the accent is so fake it's awful

>>529389683
How so? Haven't you learned to deal with area denial yet?

the mission icons are no longer deep fried
thank you obese fish

>>529389759
>people like le secret item!
>make every fucking thing secret

>>529390012
Stop doing it then

>>529390021
Is that the chinese?

>>529390021
fatalist

>>529390129
fake slavic sounding one that all the redditors are obsessed with because the va is in baldur's gate or something

New slop upcoming
Just has matching red boots from the current shop slop set, no helmet so I assume they're reusing one of the ocular augmetics or something

Arbites has genuinely fucked up the game. It's so stupidly easy to play yet is extraordinarily powerful. Darktide has already become very easy over time but it's now utterly trivial.

>>529388679
Wish somebody teach me to read, dis looks important

>>529390491
tl;dr doomchads won

>>529388794
Mute the dialogue and skip every cutscene and it's a decent time with friends. If you somehow haven't played 2 then play that instead.

>>529390365
>bls buy the coat again, now in AQUILUS ROUGE™ for 5 bucks
naaaaaah

>>529390431
Havoc.

>>529390431
ok male

shoudlve had 6 dogs instead of one

>>529390431
Post your Havoc 40 solo as arby.

>>529390237
If one had a chines sounding accent I would name her Falun Gone.
The dog would be named Lunch.

>Maul
>"A dead world is the purest expression of the lex."

>>529390774
finally no more lexbreakers

>>529386970
would you settle for hotshot pistols

>>529390645
Alsacian, Doberman, Rottweiler, Pitbull, Kangol, Pomeranian.

>>529390365
>red on red

I was listening to wave glider at the gym yesterday, this track has been stuck in my head for months like the valentino theme from cyberpunk
https://youtu.be/4-LklISf7Bc?si=5PXypfbG8dQkzFS1

>>529390431
the game was fucked long before arbitus arrived. Ogryn is still the strongest class.

>>529390431
>studio release new DLC class that's under performing
they would be mocked relentlessly
>studio release new DLC class that's over performing
people cry about it being broken
>studio release new DLC class that's perfectly balanced
never happened

>>529390675
post yours retard lmao

>>529391276
Is necromancer sienna even good? Haven't played VT2 in a while cus me pc died and I'm broke trying to get a new laptop

>>529391397
its pretty damg good

Just did a couple Aurics with the new Bleed Dog (Not explosions, though I did use that too). With no talents invested into Dog Damage.

It's pretty good. I don't know how it'll work on Aurics. But it's not bad here. You basically have to spam ping though, which might be annoying to some.

what blessings even matter on the shock n sheild

>>529391559
>I don't know how it'll work on Auric
Havocs, I mean.

>>529388679
>Buffs to Shotguns, Shock Mauls
Are very relevant, and you just admitted to not having used them. The move speed change for shotguns is enormous, the additional cleave makes them extremely good at deleting clown cars, and the ammo buffs have turned, for example the accatran, into absolute boss melters.
The shock maul buffs have made them into very formidable horde clearing weapons, whereas they were just okay at that before. Arbitrators use the weapon extremely well.
>Arbites
Is actually very fun and you're just coping. If you even have played it, chances are that you're one of those lone wolf castigatards. Embrace dog boom, embrace break the line, embrace execution order. I fully agree that the class is lazily designed and a lot of stuff is in fact reused, but two things can be true at the same time: I find the class to be a lot of fun.
>Dog is so hands off
It's hands-off in a good way for the most part, but there's still involvement in paying attention to where the dog is, and pinging the correct target, when setting up for remote det. Peeking snipers and pinging trappers as they get into position isn't exactly hands-off or free. The dog doesn't reliably take care of those on its own.
>shield maul is disappointing
Use the special you fucking faggot
>Class feels super overpowered
Yes, true.
>being able to ignore disablers
isn't the issue though. Define "disablers". The dog is good at removing dogs from you, but not generally fast enough to stop a flamer/bomber from burning you to a crisp. It doesn't reliably get rid of mutants. It can't get rid of nets.
>Pitiful selection of cosmetics
True and fair
>Uglier mission selection
Even worse, they fucked up with maelstroms to the point where they can't even show up sometimes.

>TL;DR
You're talking out of your ass for half your post and clearly haven't even played the class properly yet, nor have you used half the buffed weapons for more than one game probably.

>>529391617
high voltage, opportunist, confident strike

>>529391617
Damage Against Shock is almost up permanently, so it's just a flat 25% damage increase.
And 25% Rending Versus Staggered Enemy.

>>529391617
High Voltage is 100% mandatory.

After that I would accept Opportunist or Confident Strike. Both are good.

>want to exploit bolt pistol puncture on psyker with the force greatsword magic beam
>it takes like a billion actions per second swapping back and forth with good timing, quelling, charging the special and loosing it before swapping over again
>the damage payoff is actually kinda bad
Pskyerbros...

>>529391027
>HA HA DOT MATRIX PRINTER GO BRRRT
Jesper Kyd had no business going as hard as he did on Darktide soundtrack.

Saw someone mention not liking Soulguilt Scan because they thought it was weakspot damage only; however like the Ogryn's new Weakspot Strength node it actually behaves like normal Strength and thus multiplies all your damage when hitting weakspots. 16% Strength on a 10 second duration for hitting heads is huge, should be a must-pick whenever you can take it.

So the galaxy is like, cut in half and one of the halves is filled with hell energy but supposedly people still living in that part just fine?

>>529391397
I hate sienna's style and it's a very fun one you can either go full melee blender or ranged

>>529392295
>just fine
Relatively speaking.

>>529392295
The hell energy is the thing cutting it in half

>>529392295
cut in half but no named character died so it's ok

>auric maelstrom on damnation
Is that even a thing anymore

>>529392087
I never play Spotify or anything because the OST is one of the things tricking me I to thinking this game is good.

Is Concussive worth it?

My thought process is that it gives me benefits based on staggering enemies, but as far as I am aware, my dog is giving me all of those benefits anyway. As in, he is giving me all of those stagger buffs by doing his own thing.

I'm in the Meat Grinder testing out my DPS versus different enemies and different combos.
And so far it seems like the damage is the same.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, I am new.

>>529392630
>game is good
Game is fun and the combat makes me come back. Jesper Kyd is just icing on the cake.

>>529392695
in the real game (havoc) your dog will be too busy noming one target at a time instead of constantly pouncing

>>529392843
But that's the thing, just having him attached to a single enemy constantly refreshes those buffs...
I just tested this.
Plus, you can press tag again and he changes target even if his target isn't dead.

>>529392556
Some even came back to life.

>>529392295
No. Second part isn't filled with hell energy. This wound in the middle is. Imperium Nihilus is cut off from Terra and proper part of the Imperium and Astronomican is harder/impossible to see in it, which fucks over travel. Then again, people still underestimate how utterly decentralized Imperium is. It always were just a bunch of Islands spread thin across galaxy, surrounded by Xeno empires and no mans lands everywhere. Everyone is used to being cut off really.

>>529393089
>Then again, people still underestimate how utterly decentralized Imperium is.
GW forgets this all the time too.

>>529392936
Can you list the buffs in question? Because I can't even remember any buffs that depend on stagger.

>>529393201
Hold the Line and Forceful

>>529393361
>Hold the Line
LOVE ISNT ALWAYS ON TIME

>>529393558
IT'S NOT IN THE WAY YOU LOOK OR THE THINGS THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU'LL DO~~

>>529392695
It's a great question. It's up for debate but I think you're totally fine without it. Best you can do is try a game with, and try a game without, and ask yourself if you noticed much of a difference.

>>529388417
Arby's got another bugged one when throwing grenades. Something about Propane it almost sounds like. It kind of makes me feel like this every time I hear it. It's a shame it bugs out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldoT2mHubGE

Made an Asian arbitrator and lasted all of one game before deciding the voice was annoying as fuck. Seems the Fatalist is really the only good choice

>>529393967
Okay, I'll try. Thanks.

It's kinda funny how young Brahms says maMAAH. Very cute.

>>529389942
>>529390103
This desu. I really enjoyed both games. But all the fucking Secrets in 2 is so fucking tiring. I recently played a co-op campaign with my brother and I basically had to have the Wiki open all the time, so we wouldn't miss like 80% of the shit. Some of the secrets are also just straight up retarded unless you wiki them, and it's a critique I see many people agreeing with luckily.

>>529390365
That's.... that's just fucking bad honestly.
A fucking recolor as the next slop shop cosmetic?

funny tattoo combo you can make on female arbites

>>529395121
Sad because no boobs

>>529390431
Kek if you think this game was difficult anymore outside of Havoc 40 before Beetes youre a shitter whos bad

>>529391339
I'm not the one who considers the game "utterly trivial", retard lmao.

>>529395121
There's currently not a single cosmetic that actually makes it visible though, right?

No new slop?

>>529396034
Next week

>>529395717
Nah

are these like, broken now since they redid the board?

>>529396104
*oinks in acknowledgement*

>>529396234
No, just do the mission on Auric

>>529395121
What the fuck is the point of tattoos when you can't see them anyway?

>>529396762
Bad Perks, Overpressure is bad too

>>529396762
You're doing it all wrong. You want everlasting flame so you never have to reload. 5% crit chance perk is useful if you don't have enough crit rate in the tree, but not strictly necessary.
Overpressure is trash.

What mods are must have, what mods are nice but not required, and what mods are popular but shit and shouldnt be used?

>>529393089
>1 million worlds
When there could be trillions of planets in the galaxy. The imperium take up very tiny parts of the galaxy in reality. They're just very spread apart so it seems like they're everywhere.

>play cop
>no one accept into team
>change to vet
>instant approved
Is this like priest MMO

>>529397058
Why dont you look through them and choose what you like and think will be useful for you instead of relying on random dipshit anons who probably dont even play the game?
The only mod i'd say not to use are the ones that give you warnings for Special sound queues and that count the currently active specials, unless you ARE deaf those are just cheating
Get a scoreboard mod so you can gauge your own performance

>>529397058
the only must have for me is no dodge jump because I want dodge on space

>>529397208
People seem to think that just because you're playing diarbeetus, you're new to the game. Havoc is a joke like that.

THE LEX IS THE LEX

>>529397692
>WHEN I GET THAT FEELING I GOT LEXUAL HEALING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlSiASsUIs

In the voice of The Maul.

>>529397320
Nigga just rebind your keys

>>529397126
The dark forest imperium is the best imperium.

>>529395687
Learn how to read you fucking moron

I'm pretty sure male fatalist is still playing authoritarian lines.
Can someone please be brave enough to go in their discord and call Fatshark a bunch of Svenne faggot niggers.

>>529398245
there's a mod that lets me use the binds I want, why would I rebind lol are you retarded

>>529393361
Concussive doesn't affect either of these
Like I said it doesn't make your hits staggering, it's a misinformation being spread in this thread and picked up by mr e and spread further

>>529399343
So why not just bind without using the mod? It's done now so whatever, but you didn't need a mod for that.

>that fix to the dog bleeds

I fucking knew that talent wasn't working. Now combine it with dog grenade and bolt pistol bleeds blessing.

wtf is wrong with this visor? is there supposed to be a big spike coming out it

>>529398468
I'm not the tard whining that Arbites somehow broke the balance of the game when the game is piss easy to begin with faggot.

>>529399994
You get what you paid for, pig. Buy more aquilas

>>529399994
It gives you sharper vision.

>>529399994
Pig vision helmet.

>finally a veteran
>doesn't bring survivalist
FAG

>>529399071
There's still Ogryn "slab" etc lines for raising arbies and veteran cheer lines from others for kills.
There's still "the hound is dealt with" or whatever always repeated.
There's still mission voicelines that have the Masozi etc head pop up but there's no text no sound.
There's still mission voicelines where the Rannick etc is just talking to himself.

>>529400071
imbliggin the game had any balance to begin with.

>>529400284
Can confirm "slab" and hound line stuff, as of current patch.

>>529400279
Find your own ammo.
*runs away wit 5% more speed*

>>529399994
a vertex is on the loose!

>>529400363

>>529400279
>I NEED AMMO
>I NEED AMMO
Are you the Arby's in my games that is constantly on red ammo because you completely ignore all pinged ammo pickups, including the ammo crate in your inventory that you're saving for next mission like it's fucking Tarkov?

>>529400442
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>Teammates getting filtered on Aurics after the tweaks
Nice

>dog's bleed now applies on pinged target and both stacks and refreshes various buffs
yeah this talent is actually good now

>>529397126
The million worlds thing hasn't really ever been canon, it's more just an inaccurate description of the actual number of planets under the Imperium's control. It flows better than to say some other bloviated number. We know this to be the case since human presence in the galaxy is the most numerous. And if there is a foothold established on one planet in a star system, it means you (in theory) also have access to the other planets in the star system. It would probably be more "accurate" to say a million stars or a million systems, or a billion even given how fucking many there are in the Milky Way. The other thing that people overlook is that humanity's cradle world is Earth but the lore has never changed that humanity has been out in the stars since before the Men of Iron. We see this a lot in the Horus Heresy books. They'll just enter a random star system, and there will be humans there, somewhere on the spectrum between total backwater, a busted down version of the Imperium's tech due to being isolated for so long, or even a regional power that has invented their own technology, society, culture, etc.

The Great Crusade was a reconquest, sort of like Belisarius being a fucking Chad and pushing the Western Roman empire's boundaries back towards the West. People were still over there, Romans were still over there, but they were cut off and atomized.

>>529401010
East, rather.

>>529400570
It was a throwback seeing how retarded people are while leveling. The minor annoyances of retards in aurics is really nothing compared to how incomprehensibly dumb the "average" player is

>>529399521
wouldn't this be extremely easy to test with a shock maul + skullcrusher blessing?

>>529401010
I think even GW writers have trouble conceptualizing how long 40,000 years is.
The oldest known human records are only 3,200 years old.

Arbites verdict?

>>529401404
Fun. Haters gonna hate but I'll be down there treating everyone like a negro with a broken taillight.

>>529401404
Guilty

>>529401010
The ecclesiarchy has a whole branch of people whose job is to integrate newly re-discovered worlds into the fold, this implies this is a regular occurance.

>>529399521
Surely you will spawn a boss in the psykhanium and show us proof of this right
Surely you are going to back this claim up with evidence
Here, just do this >>529401293

>>529401404
Balanced for havoc 40 and thus kind of too easy and too powerful in lower difficulties. Dog is excellent. All blitzes are good. Lone wolf is niche but worth it for the grenades, losing the dog hurts. Castigator's stance is painfully mid and has very few niches, amazing for getting a revive. Nuncio Aquila is also very niche, and borderline useless with pubbie randos in aurics because they never stand inside it. Break the line is crazy strong. Left keystone is incredible, right keystone is good, center keystone is atrocious.

>>529401569
Or that bureaucracy is so huge and unwieldy that nobody ever gets around to streamlining shit because you need 50 fucking servitor scribes to deal with a water permit.

>>529401696
The administratum is a fucking mess yes, I beleive there's a minor ordo of the inquisition whose entire job is coming down on administratum types who cause too many fuckups

>gold toughness
you didn't beat havoc 40

>>529401764
Darktide players aren't used to classes that have more than 1 build

>>529401764
Memes aside, two things can be true at the same time.
Arbites is balanced in havoc 40 and kind of broken anywhere below that.

>>529400570
They're universally drooling morons that mag dump poxies.

>>529401764
>Shift Leader Primus
Hey, that's me.

>>529401896
The new shotgun is just too gosh darned fun.
You can use the special ammo as a reserve in a pinch.

>>529401764
The lack of gold toughness is its only real drawback, you can just dump on everything with the right build. Flame weapons are still better due to their infinite cleave, but Arbites are probably second to them on raw cleave power.

>>529401896
No. They have a 3500 ranged kill penance to deal with.
Arby shotgun is good at mid range though. Cleaves like a beast and pulverizes armor.

>>529401764
we've forgotten how to make memes

>>529401404
MAULING

>>529401896
Once my dog is even near a poxie I'm afraid to melee it because it might explode by itself

THUNK THUNK THUNK
HHHHHRRRRRRRRRRAAAAGH

>>529400570
>Are you the [insert random made up story here]
no FAG.
I just enjoy having EXTRA ammo. MORE ammo than I need. I want to SHOOT. BOOM CHAKA BOOM CHAKA BOOM. RATATATATATATATA.

>>529401010
It's a million world AFTER the great crusade. The imperium is in reality really fucking tiny. They're spread so thin it's no wonder they struggle so much and are so pathetically decentralized.

>>529402387
Yeah that was the case when people started doing "Advice Dog" and the like. Deal with it.

>>529401664
Thought the same for keystones
Right keystone tickles my tank itch he is almost zealot tanky

>>529396935
solid advice thanks

>>529402908
Not how it works dude, the nature of FTL communications in the setting basically makes the way it's run necessary, each world basically has to be autonomous unless they're located right next to something else, in practice a given imperial planet can be run however the fuck it likes so long as it pays the tithe.
I don't know how on earth you'd centralise a star spanning empire when FTL communications are done by a limited number of people who routinely kill themselves doing it.

>>529402908
It really isn't. The setting affirms that humans are the most numerous sentient species. Only Nids outnumber humanity, but they aren't strictly speaking sentient. If this was a dark forest scenario, then the Nids would be an massively worse threat than they are now (which is already basically a terminal threat), since they would just scrape the near countless planets between one human planet in one star system in another. The amount of accrued biomass would be incalculable and humanity would never genuinely stand a chance if Nids were fighting a species with access to "only" one million planets when there are something like a hundred billion star systems in the Milky Way. It'd be some Xe'le Sequence tier shit where the Nids one shot humanity and don't even notice they did it.

>>529402440
WHAT?

>>529402669
>shrugs it off

>>529392295
csn you rephrase that?

Does the gore feel overturned after this hotfix? I'm cleaving poxwalkers in half with a blunted mace. I don't remember it doing that...

>>529403782
>The setting affirms that humans are the most numerous sentient species
This doesn't mean anything because the source is dubious. There could be hundreds of xeno empires in the galaxy that the imperium isn't aware of.

>rework zealot, make something other than BP relevant
>nerf dueling sword, relic greatsword immediately becomes relevant
please, obeseaquaticpredator...

there can't be any sapient organic life with a connection to the warp that haven't been discovered, the chaos chuds would know about them

>"I shall tend to thy relic, varlet..."
>mfw

>>529404018
yeah I was wondering what that was, I shoot a lad with my revolver and he gets ripped in two

>>529404637
Go... Kill some heretics

>>529392295
They are not "just fine" when they are now much more vulnerable to daemonic shit, Chaos invasions and attrition, because the gaping warp vagina makes warp travel through it incredibly unsafe besides a few small corridors, meaning it's harder to get reinforcements and supplies through to worlds on the bad half.

>>529404018
ye, my maul is cutting maulers in half. It's funny.

>>529392295
Nothing wrong with hell energy, what are you racist?

Where are the skaven getting all of this warpstone from? It doesn't just rain from the sky... right?

>Imagination is a fraud perpetrated on oneself. It is therefore a crime.
Authoritarian Arbies really have the best lines.

Did the deluxe arby cloak always have a big fat number on it?

>>529406489
>Sorry anon, that waifu you love is fake. Off to jail you go for frauding yourself.

>>529406489
>There's really nothing of you left, is there? They scooped it out and replaced it with the Lex.
>IT MADE ME EFFICIENT.
>It made you a monster!
>AND I AM CONTENT WITH THAT.
don't think this is the exact convo, but that's maul and herr psyker

>sextus shotais
what did the arbiters mean by this

>taking the double barrel shotgun with all of the ranged nodes, reload speed with terminus warrant stacks, and reload speed on elite kill
Bros...
I'm having fun with the game again...

make of this what you will
>concussive applies forceful without staggering but adds no additional damage via skullcrusher or target the weak (bugged?)
>doesn't apply forceful without concussive

the combat shotgun is suprisingly fun

Anyone play this and able to comment on it? Been looking for more stuff to play with the gang

>>529407248
first i've heard of it

>>529407363
With 327 total reviews since Dec 2024, it's likely the first anyone who actually plays games have heard of it.
That's a Unity/Unreal asset flip if I ever saw one.

what does no toughness grace period even mean?

>>529407062
didn't bother adding it to the webm but it's worth mentioning that this behavior is identical against monstrosities

>>529406870
>>AND I AM CONTENT WITH THAT.
I don't think he is content with that.

HISTG is not a real difficulty, fatshit

>>529392695
Dunno. Don't care. It's on the way to 20% toughness DR and the aura I want, so I take it regardless.

>>529397126
>>529401010
>>529402908
>>529403771
>>529403782
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/i35e94/the_size_and_span_of_the_imperium_or_why_a/
This redditor post actually brought together a nice collection of quotes about it. High Lords have no idea how much they actually rule, because FTL and communications are so shit, slow and unreliable compared to other Space Opera settings it's impossible to properly map out galaxy. Imperium just claims entire galaxy is theirs and nonimperial humans are indeed numerous as well, Imperium is spread thin across the galaxy. Random Xeno empires are everywhere too, but since they don't have models they are not the focus. I remember it was explicitly said that Orks and some random Xeno race were fucking over Imperium recently HARD and then Tyranids attacked suddenly from the east as well.

>swing at dreg head
>he survives
>slowly heft the thing over my head
>lifting... lifting...
>swin- BLAM, arbitrator shoots my target dead
>rev... still revving... yep, moving at half speed and still revving
>swing
>BRRRR- ACK, 3 poxies just stripped half my health
>target doesn't even die
Yeah this thing is still dogshit

alright alright enough Darktide. It's time for Vermintide 3.

>>529408348
You'll get darktide 2 before that happens

>>529407658
Normally when your toughness breaks, you get really fat damage resistance for a short time, so for example a pack of shotgunners can't instagib you.
Fading Light removes that. Shotgunners are some of the most dangerous enemies now, because there's no curio resist perk against them.

>>529391961
it's not terrible if you combine it with soulblaze, if you get a sword with only 33% (I think) peril resist two sword waves can put you above 85% for a max power shriek so you can stack in only two. Crafting that particular sword is a bit painful though as you need something that starts at damn near 0% peril resist before empowering. It's not overpowered or anything but it's certainly fun. The build itself is very high apm though for sure.

>>529408261
Don't talk to my wife like that

>>529407062
skullcrusher applies on a staggering hit (concussive initial hit doesnt count, because it puts them in a "considered staggered" state first for followup hits) or a hit while staggered, then you get the damage bonus, so it was the second hit that applies the first 40% of skullcrusher

>>529408348
>Devs finally out of early access for Darktide
>Let's do it all over again(while not remembering any lessons learned last time!) for Vermintide 3!
Pls no, not yet...

>>529408261
skill issue

>>529408585
Yeah it's actually baffling how little the solved problems get carried over, darktide still doesn't have a bunch of shit that VT2 has.

>>529408684
youre right, 5 years of future devtime to darktide versus!

>>529408842

>auric arbies fighting two bulwarks for like 30 seconds
HOW

Cutthroat:
>Brahms needs to keep her crew out of inquisitorial business.
Loosecannon:
>Sure. You tell her... No, I really mean it. I'll watch from a safe distance.
CT:
>I ain't scared of Brahms.
LC:
>Blessed be the innocent, taken before his time...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7c_QbmGlqg
Good banter in this new update, kek

>>529403826
MANDATED EDICT

>>529408462
Ah, but i still won't get bleed through damage from ranged right?
Like, the shot that breaks my Toughness wont hit my health right

>>529408348
They are probably working on it already. There is a limit to how lazy they can be, those pitiful VT2 and DT updates couldn't occupy time of their entire studio. I'd argue it's VT3 on UE5 and once it's out they will work on DT2. Having both new and supported Fantasy and Space Fantasy games at this same time would be great for them

>>529409254
WHAT!?

>>529409283
>the shot that breaks my Toughness
I actually don't know, I think you just eat shit. I never paid much attention to that mechanic in havoc, because I'm either gold, sliding around like an autistic ninja on crack, or dead.
Snipers just kill you though.

>>529409283
Thing is, if your toughness is being raped your probably in front of a gunner or something who is going to proceed to shoot you about 20 more times in a split second.

Hello psyker that is downed and currently cooking in fire. I will revive you now :)

>>529409674
Thank you, teammate that actually pays attention and trusts that I know to dodge out of fire, everyone else was afraid I'd yell at them about griefing :(

>arbites can now wear the feretory with sconces back cosmetic
It´s worth the fire blocking your field of view every time you walk

Nerfs when?

>>529409168
>Rannick and Brahms hate each other so much the first thing he orders Zola to do when she moved onto the ship is to cozy up with Brahms so he doesn't have to do it himself

>>529409947
We just got dog explosion nerf
Darktide is healing

>>529409926
This is a psykhanium bug with multiple cosmetics that have particle effects. Can you get a screenshot in an actual game to prove you're not just talking out of your ass?

>>529409965
Brahms is just not impressed by rannick, I guess she may know him from before? she keeps calling him explicator.
Zola on the other hand she appears to get along with decently enough.

>>529410046
This never happened, stop spreading misinformation. Remote detonation still ticks the bleed to full. You're just too retarded to hold your bolter for long enough.

>>529407658
minor correction to >>529408462 but shotgunners ignore this shit without fading light which is why they are real assholes. They also used to have around double the fall off range which made them fucking sniping assholes

>>529409517
Yeah, i honestly thought it was a PD:TH thing and there was a grace period of not being able to take damage after just eating a shot outside of havoc
>>529409613
I just want to know for clarity desu, i try my best to not let it even come to that

>>529409390
YOU CANNOT ESCAPE

>>529410358
The most important thing that DOES NOT change with Fading Light is gold toughness giving you a health gate, I'm pretty sure. I don't believe any single damage tick can bypass toughness as long as it's gold, so you can eat a single crusher overhead.

>>529410520
AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE!

>>529410334
Yeah i played on and off since the beta, i remember the sniper-shotgun patrols, also gunner knockback
fun stuff
either way, don't think ive actually been hit by a shotgunner recently, they are either engaged in melee or shoot past me because of how hard they got fucking nerfed
>dodged a second ago
>he still misses
>>529410565
I figured, since everyone wants it all the time

>>529410224
Just tested it while holding the bolter the entire team
Darktide has officially healed

>>529409283
you get bleed through and start enjoying ranged stagger which when it's something like a gunner can easily stunlock you to death

>>529410727
yeah they are really only scary if they catch you off guard but I had a pack of them drop on my head a few days ago and just remove me from existence, taught me to respect them a bit again

More Hallowette missions, please!

>>529410763
>trolling outside of /b/

>>529410763
>just tested it
shut the fuck up retard, i literally just did it to remove a mauler pack

>>529411315
Thanks for testing it for me, cuck

>>529409168
DUDE! Brahms is such a boss bitch! Such a girlboss! Everyone is scared of this old slut!

>>529412128
>he thinks pissing off the woman who owns the ship and has full control ove rit is gonna end well
Your funeral, brother.

>>529410065
I could have sworn it showed up during missions sometimes. Guess not

>>529412128
Rogue. Trader.

>>529412128
retard

finally done with this dogshit game

>they removed the candle flame from the bolt pistol skin
I guess the Emperor won't light my aim

>>529412128
She basically has a letter from the emperor that says she can do whatever she wants, inquisition nothwithstanding.

>auric, boss rush modifier
>retard cliffs me by mag dumping into a barrel
>proceed to watch for 2 minutes as the boss' health bar doesn't move an inch because everyone is panicking and nobody brought boss damage to the boss rush modifier
I swear most of the """people""" playing this game are barely even sentient.

>>529413274
I think it just got fucked in an update
should let them know. it was neat

>>529412128
out the airlock you go you miserable cunt

>>529408348
Not until we get that dream team who actually cares
>>529409027
Post more sex

Any other Arbites weapons I should even bother with?

>>529413371
No, it’s more like she has a letter from the Emperor saying she’s entitled to some form of ‘rights’, wherever they want is Inquisitor territory.

>>529414196
Arbites shock maul
Shock maul

>>529414368
You get the point though, Rogue Traders can get away with a lot of shit that would get most people BLAM'd
Brahms is clearly entangled with Inquisitor Grendyl though which is basically the one type of person that can really make things difficult for a rogue trader.

I know this isn't exactly a pure co-op shooter like Darktide or whatever but has anyone here played Enshrouded? I'm not sure if there's a general better suited to ask in.

>>529384113
>Rannick has never met Grendyl
Source for this?

>>529414698
Brahms memories.

>game crashed
fuck darktide and the swedes

>>529414650
Only like 10 hours of it many versions ago. Wasn't my thing. Combat was boring and loot was boring. The building mechanics were pretty good. Oh, and it runs like fucking shit on my 6700xt and 5700x3d. I don't know if it's an issue with AMD or what, but unless your rig is significantly better, expect to throw everything on low settings and still get FPS in the 40s and 50s.

psyker feels like it's way too taxed on its tree. i know the damage potential is great and all, but it genuinely feels like theres only 1 or 2 builds to run or else you're completely useless. empowered psionics is fucking trash, dd is inconsistent and warp charges feel worthless with psykinetic aura being a thing on left size while right side has scriers which is only 25s cd. not to mention the blitzes are especially bad, particularly brain burst which seems to have been nerfed since i last played, because i remember it being 35% peril for a full charge, not 41%. only blitz i think is generally useful is smite because of its stun effect on hordes and that's it, but it feels awful when you have a monstrosity coming to kill you.
seriously, there's just gun psyker being the odd one out, but i'd rather just play arbitrator or vet instead in that case.

>>529414368
She is, she's in a position that is literally unteachable outside of the highest authorities in the galaxy. Doesn't mean she's a great leader or whatever, she just inherited it.'


Anyway, nefts when? They need to nerf this DLC class into the ground.

>>529414650
Boring combat
Ugly characters
Shitty aesthetics

>>529414650
>>529415126
To clarify, I did go back a few weeks ago and give it another try. Performance was still ass for me

>>529415158
on the bright side this is mostly a skill issue

(You)! Give me a new special/elite idea that will challenge or disrupt players in a fun way and keep them on their toes.

>>529415383
an enemy that has two heads

>>529385967
You’ll get it when the actual Krieg weapon pack releases
>>529386264
I don’t think that’s a thing

>>529385767
Wow they sound like fags

>>529415158
>the blitzes are especially bad, particularly brain burst
That's how you know it's purely a skill issue. None of your opinions reflect reality, you're just bad at psyker.

>>529415383
The Butcher, a fat bastard that's mutant sized who swings a hook around then throws it at someone, hooking them away from allies.

>>529413995
I like the line she has about no longer tossing corpses out the airlock.
>PSA: disposing of deceased crewmembers via airlock is now forbidden
>also, on a completely unrelated note, the bulkheads on the lower decks require additional blast cushions
>please report suitable candidates to your nearest overseer

>>529414178
sex you say

>>529388698
>>529390491
good posts

>>529415126
>>529415258
>>529415305
Damn, I was kinda hopeful since the reviews seem positive

>>529415383
Dog thrower
>say the word. I'll make em dogged
>throws dog from a distance
Shield sniper
>sniper that you can't shoot
Super mutant
>mutant that grabs you and runs with you back to the start of the mission unless stopped
Puker
>sprays beast of nurgle style puke on you that causes significant corruption, slowdown and impaired vision
Suswalker
>hides among normal poxwalkers
>swallows you whole when it gets in melee range

>>529415383
A birb grabs you and carries you away and up. If teammates are too late to save you it'll drop you outside of the map and you fucking die.

>>529390774
sounds like heresy

>>529388794
Looks like shameless slop. Characters that are even worse than in BL3 somehow. Same exact gameplay but with new guns and maps like every game since 2.
>>529389887
Now THIS was a fun game.

>>529416156
After the Daemonic Incursion update with Rot Fly bossfight

>>529392295
Like others said they aren’t really fine, it’s more so that it hasn’t meant instant death like a lot of people seem to be envisioning.
>>529396818
You can see them, but only on Ogryn who has shirtless skins pretty sure

>>529401335
What do you mean records? Because im sure we have recounting of stuff that's like 6000 years old

>>529391397
How did you fuck up your PC

>>529401335
>The oldest known human records are only 3,200 years old.
The Guiness Book of Records 1175 BC

>>529415383
DRG Cave Leech

>>529416347
>Read lore
>Everytime we kill a beast of nurgle it gets closer to becoming a rot fly

>>529415158
>too taxed
Every tree except Arbitrator and Ogryn are taxed about as much as Psyker, this isn't that big of a deal.
>1 or 2 builds to run or else you're completely useless
Off the top of my head there's about 4; >Purgatus build which has waveclear, paired with a force sword or duelist sword for single target + rupture, you never run out of toughness unless things go horribly wrong
>Gun Psyker, which melts everything
>Smite Psyker, which stuns entire waves and lets your team deal with bosses without worrying about chaff
>Literally anything with Trauma staff
I can make a few builds to show you if you need it
>Keystone complaints
Warp charges are objectively the best keystone with Disrupt Destiny being a close second. Empowered is trash and always has been, this is a nothingburger of a complaint.
>Blitzes complaints
Smite and Assail have more general-use, but Brain Rupture is way too useful to eliminate really far off snipers or gunners that refuse to reload, the blitzes are meant to complement your play, not replace it.

>>529397058
Since the update messed up a bunch of mods I've been playing vanilla again. Honestly I just cant be fucked to go about fixing everything.

>>529417597
>Empowered is trash and always has been
It makes brain burst quite strong outside of havoc.
It makes smite quite strong IN havoc.

>>529389942
>inane bullshit nobody would ever do like waiting an hour (real time) for some fucking door to open.
Is that real? I heard about it but I can't find anything on it for some reason

>>529415383
Loot nurgling.

how the hell do you start the orthus offensive with the new mission terminal?

>>529401827
In fairness there's an Inquisitorial Ordo for everything at this point, those guys really have their plates full

>>529418343
>leaves behind a trail of corruption
>only vulnerable to melee, explodes like a pox burster when killed
>rewards you with 5000 dockets and 80 plasteel, modified for auric difficulty

>>529418541
>Inquisition Ordo for the Inquisition to make sure they don't Exterminatus willy nilly

>>529417891
I mean yeah, but I'd rather have the CD from WC to keep bubble up. EP just gets outperformed by WC and DD in almost every case.

>>529406346
The moon is made out of it :)

>>529397126
Mind you, we do have quotes for trillions of planets too, as well as quadrillions of *guardsmen* alone, so it’s clear that was never set in stone (like so many other things in the setting).
>>529401010
Yeah this, the million worlds thing is essentially just flavor text, like other things in the lord it’s just there to give you a general idea of the sheer scope and scale of the setting, if you wanted to be totally realistic, the “untold billions” line is also inaccurate and we have way bigger numbers for the human population in the galaxy.
>>529402908
They’re “spread thin” in the context of fighting other alien races that number in the literal quintillions, on top of having to deal with like a dozen other threats, including ones from within.
>>529408220
I mean yeah they are. The Imperium is currently eating shit against the Tyranids, which is why the trailer with Guilliman in it has him so distressed. The IoM doesn't even have enough forces to fight its current enemies. With the bulk of its strength committed to the east fighting Chaos and Necrons, when the Tyranids showed up in the west the Imperium dug into its barrel and hit the bottom, and is resorting to stalling.

>>529418565
make it say funny shit and I don't care what it drops

>>529418541
I think going into the minor ordos is for super specialized inquisitors really.
>>529418635
Those guys basically audit every exterminatus order to check that it was warranted, I'm sure one Kryptman had nothing to do with that Ordo being needed

>>529418716
If people kill enemies fast enough (which smite makes rather trivial), bubble cooldown isn't that big of a deal thanks to psykinetic's aura. Bubble isn't even that important to spam if your team isn't such complete shitters that they will piss themselves whenever it pops. A competent chorus zealot will do more than any bubble can ever hope to. My best runs with a psyker had them using shriek.

>>529411207
>said no one ever

>>529410213
>woman gets along with the other woman in charge but not the man
curious…

>>529419076
It's not a fucking mystery, she's used to being god as far as anyone on her ship is concerned, she doesn't appreciate this outside authority waving his dick around on her ship.

>>529418376
It's campaign only right now. You'll have to wait for Swedish vacation to end before they reinstate it.

>>529418995
>Bubble isn't even that important to spam if your team isn't such complete shitters that they will piss themselves whenever it pops.
True, but I can't trust apes to write Shakespeare in every match, now can I?
Even if the team is competent though, I feel you get a better use case out of DD in more situations. Only exception is probably Smite.

>>529414646
I guess, I wouldn’t say ‘only’ Inquisitors can give them headache, but that list is pretty short yeah
>>529415212
Right, but she can’t like, go around requisitioning entire squadrons of troops or something, it’s more personal freedom than anything.

And nerfs never. ;)

>>529419291
>I feel you get a better use case out of DD in more situations
Curious, I was under the impression that warp siphon was more generally useful, since it's almost constantly active. Can you explain a build using disrupt destiny in havoc? I don't play psyker that much in havoc, and I also never see any using it.

>>529419424
Yeah, pretty much. I think they can request favors from commisars and the like. And they must have some authority when it comes to guardsmen, considering they need to recruit for their crews. I don't personally know for sure though, im sure some grog knows.

>>529419424
It comes down to politics sometimes, if a planet doesn't have it's own naval forces and a Rogue trader rolls up in their firestorm class and starts making demands what the fuck are the locals gonna do about it?
and anyone who's big on nobility is going to view a rogue trader as extremely high up the social ladder.

>>529415797
This is pretty creative. Culexussy is needed

I just make my psyker super godlike at one thing, like my Voidstrike staff, hitting double crits down hallways and knocking bulwarks over. Shit is fun.

>>529418867
Reminder that the Custodes themselves did the same shit Kryptman did and there's nobody higher than them but the Emperor to call them out on it.

>>529420154
Kryptmans actions were arguably necessery but it was still a hard pill to swallow for many of his co-workers, and maaaybe they could have been fought off conventionally?
The custodes only give a rats ass about earth and maybe segmentum solar when it comes to planets.

>>529419924
>GRIND YOU UP
>knocks over every bulwark and kills them in seconds
Stick to what you're good at, sparkhead

sahs give me your karsolas pickaxe build sahs preferably with heavy stubber sah

>>529421174
Did they fix the pickaxe bug yet? Been kind of paranoid to run it with Ogryn

>>529421535
It was fixed last week

>>529421174

>>529421606
Thanks sah

>>529421174
There's literally only one way to build the pickaxes and that's it. Any other setup than this >>529421673 is just objectively fucking wrong.

>>529420465
I like throwing in some common sense into 40k, as much as redditors fucking hate that
>soURcE!? wHErE dOeS iT sAY tHAT!??!?

Anyway I agree that it was necessary, but only to try it out to see if it would work. Kryptman's scheme was early in the days of the Tyranid invasion, and everyone was collectively shitting their pants.
IF IT HAD WORKED, the guy would have been fine and wouldn't be villainizedby his colleagues. But it didnt, and no one knew the astronomicom was attracting the hive mind.
Burning several planets for the scientific equivalent of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks would certainly raise some eyebrows, but not if it had worked. More horrific and wasteful shit happens all the time in 40k, but the slight benefit gives it a pass, which Kryptman didnt have.

>>529421092
Sorry, can't hear anything over the warp screaming in my fucking ears.

>>529421930
>IF IT HAD WORKED
That's a pretty fucking big if.

>>529421930
What you described is the entirety of every Ordo.
>Do crazy shit
>Does it work?
>Good, do it more
>Does it not work?
>Burn everything related to it
I wish I had saved it, but that one image comparing the Imperium to a dude getting vipers for christmas is pretty apt in how they handle any and everything. You gotta be fucked in the head to survive in the 40k setting, but you have nothing to show for it then you're better cleansed.

Hell the entirety of Space Marine 1 can be summarized with
>Inquisition fucked around and a whole planet found out

>>529421930
If you aren't using a source you're just making shit up. That is how you get female custodes.

>>529425046
>bro the emperor is god, he can do anything
>a space marine...but with tits? nooooo he can't heckin' do that, especially not in one extremely rare case among his most direct descendants, noooooooo

>>529400363
no meme arrow therefore you do that and say that thing and look like that

>>529425363
Found the tranny.

>>529425516
remember to bathe and leave the ww2 memorabilia at home

>>529420154
>Reminder that the Custodes themselves did the same shit Kryptman did
What? When?

>>529414650
I enjoyed it but i played really early, game just seemed like it needed more, the terrain manipulation is pretty great though

>>529425819
if warhammer is for everyone does that mean its for da nazee chuds too

>>529425363
>he can do anything
I mean, he can't, really. This is a pretty important plot point

>>529426085
Fanbases are for everyone except the people who made it a fanbase, chud.

>>529426258
That would be the chuds

>>529426319
Yes and that is how "fanbases are for everyone" works today. If you started it, you're not welcome because you're problematic, also an incel and a chud.

>>529420465
>>529421930
Let’s not forget Kryptmann also has the relative disaster that is Octarius weighing on his head. To his credit, the original plan of Exterminatus *did* do what it was meant to accomplish, but its not out of the question by any means that the Nids could have adapted to it, maybe they would learn to intercept exterminatus torpedoes or deploy vanguard organisms to search for pre-placed bombs, point is, the tyranids in particular are a beast that can’t really be controlled or ever really understood

>>529421854
I'm lmaoing. The pickaxe just needs 2 blessings to be good. I use them on my looger build. It's hilarious how good they are, even without talents.

>>529426182
>if jesus was so great and powerful, why didn't he just stop them from executing him

>>529426810
Yes, why didn't he? He could've continued living and teaching people if he wanted to.

>>529426929
so the plot could happen

>>529425046
I don't mean making shit up, I mean inferring some of the unspoken things by using common sense.

An example being the two most retarded questions I've ever seen asked about 40k lore, both of which were on reddit:
>Do vacuums exist in 40k?
>Who cuts a space marines hair?
While both have the obscene levels of retardation you would expect from that website, neither have been written down.
But I bet the servants of a hive noble vacuums when cleaning and that a chapter serf probably cuts a space marine's hair if he wants it.

>>529425363
Custodes are hand crafted people, each one is considered a work of art in their own right, they're not really space marines, custodes were never mortal.

>>529426980
That's so stupid and lame. I'm killing you.

>>529427264
Oh yeah?
*whacks your dick with a sock full of coins*

>>529427181
>Do vacuums exist in 40k?
Yes.
>Who cuts a space marines hair?
The chapter serfs, they perform all miscellaneous duties amongst a space marine chapter, you think space wolves are cooking their own food? they like to joke the lady in charge of the kitchen is the greatest authority in the fang.

>>529427516
Are you retarded? Did you even read my post?

is it just me or they reverted the gore in this game? ennemies are cut in half way more often

>>529428146
they fucked something up

>need more snorevocs
time to play boomgryn and gradually lull myself into a braindead stupor

>>529427181
The main thing about 40k as a setting is it's a setting so broad that damn near anything can be said to exist in it, it's set up pretty well to tell whatever story you want within it, you just pull a star system out of your ass and populate it.
This means you have to infer certain things about basic life that 40k lore usually doesn't go into because the lore is generally about the wars kicking off constantly, 40k gives you the impression that the average human in the imperium is a miserable slave who gets murdered by chaos cultists or nids before the age of 30, but if it's a civilized class world and no war has rolled up on it the average person probably lives somewhat comparable lives to IRL really.

>>529386970
I really want a jump pack now. It doesn’t have to make us fly, even just hovering a massive boost in jumping power would be cool.

>>529427684
I have to admit I got caught up on the greentext.

>>529391027
DSDDDDDDDAAAAAMMMMNNNNNN ITS SO FUCKING GOOD NIGGGGGAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

>>529416098
Dog thrower is the best enemy idea. I want that.

>>529394474
You should have listened to the samples in the character creation. The Chinese accent is… yeah….

>change vet head cosmetics
>see this one from the slop shop
Uhh, just fuck my shit up?

>>529406489
neutered by his delivery

>>529416098
>Puker
Honestly perfect, though make it's corruption about the same as a poxburster.
>>529415383
As >>529415748 said, something with a pull like the licker, but less annoying.

>>529429554
Male pattern baldness is normal, anon. No need to be ashamed.

>>529428545
You're right, and I don't blame any author for not writing about a basic breakfast on a feudal world. Too many people forget the entire purpose of this setting, to include the books/games/other media, is to sell plastic miniatures.
How autistic people can be about this setting is both a blessing and a curse. People can ask the dumbest questions about the most obvious things, and then refute the existence of something like plastic water bottles because a Black Library author never wrote about it.

On that note Dystopianchimp does a good job of getting the feel for some of the more mundane aspects of life in 40k, and I recommend him if anyone hasnt listened to him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quKwtzXlcoU

>>529400709
huh, so that's what that update was about
no wonder pubbies have been particularly useless today

>>529416347
>>529418343
>daemonic incursion
>daemons
too extreme but it could be cool

>>529429554
He looks just like the boomers in the convenience store still larping as soldiers with their old service beret.

>>529428545
That’s one thing I like about it, there’s so much going on all at once, on one side of the galaxy you have people who are constantly in campaigns of war for literal centuries if not millennia and then you’ll have people on the other side who’s contribution to the Imperial war machine is at best working at a manufactorum or herding and butchering Groxes for meat for the tithe to be collected and otherwise eek out a relatively regular existence, it just makes the setting feel so much more dynamic and alive
>>529429937
>bunny girl abhumans
Hot

>>529430581
Don't forget worlds that are outright in different ages of development, literal cave men over here, medieval knights over there, hell even with "modern"ish planets it can vary, the reason why autoguns are still a thing in the imperium is you need a certain techbase to make the logistically superior lasgun.

>>529429554
>He fell for the slopshop
lmao what an idiot!
I would never...
I fell for it too anon, I didnt preview before using my shekels
To be fair, it looks fucking slick on ogryns so I figured it would be fine for vets as well

>>529430819
Lmao

>>529430927
it is fucking horrendous

>>529429554
I only use the Just Fuck My Shit Up hair cuts from Osca without head cosmetics.

>>529430819
>imblyign
It's the preview, I only pig for actually good looking cosmetics

>>529429554
this is unironically cool

>>529431298
But funny

>barely take any damage one mission
>next mission a zealot keeos fighting right next to me
>hits every barrel
>doesn't push bursters
>i take a mission's worth of damage in the first segment
Sigh

>>529430728
We aren't allowed to see any Imperial Worlds besides Hive Worlds and Death Worlds (Jungle) per GW.

Aurics are fun again. Poxclick is saved

>>529431417
To my credit, it does look good on my male Vet

>>529400181
heheh

>mouse macros stop working
>try auto-clicker mod
>it fucking sucks
I really wish I knew why a simply macro in my mouse driver software randomly works or doesn't depending on the fucking patch

Sefoni, please grant me access to the memories of Swagger-senpai.

>>529432860
Just use skitarius and fullauto.

>>529433178
they leaked already, here you go
>Hot damn, I want that Hadron lass to tug me off with her organic hand so very very badly.
>I'm Grendyl. I am Grendyl. I am the man known as Grendyl.

>>529401764
ME ON LEFT

>>529392295
>>529405863
Those are the best parts:

>Named my arbites George-droyd
>Stopped playing for a few days
>He is Gerald now
What the fuck did they report me?

>>529434837
Fagshart jannies lurk these threads and keep updating the banned names list, I assume they rolled out a new ban list with the recent patch, and the game handles banned names by resetting them to a generic one

>>529434729
>legitimately good FYH post
Fuck me its been too long, what an awesome concept

>>529433332
I'll try those out instead. But if they suck too, I'm gonna drive over to your house and leave moldy bread on your porch.

>>529435298
Skitarius is a little tedious to set up, and is mostly useful for melee, but can do awesome shit like forcing power sword activations and automatically cycling through heavies. FullAuto is retard proof and has a simple button toggle, and an intuitive icon in the UI next to your ammo counter.

>>529435083
Not him, but I don't even bother with edgy names I'll just come up with my own names which fit the setting and whatever.
It's nicer that way.

Though I've seen couple of Derek Chauvins here and there, made me chuckle a bit.

>>529435585
I'd argue fullauto is essential for some weapons, I don't want to think about using the laspistol without it.

>Melk contracts
But I wanna play the pig...
But I also need melkbux for gambling curios......

>>529430819
>>529431298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQeezCdF4mk
>>529434729
Honestly an interesting concept for a scifi setting, would be neat in Stellaris (ascension path like telepathy, but more combat oriented)

>>529434729
>weaponry firing screaming, burning bolts, screaming skulls or burning hellfire into the enemy lines
>They tanks and transports being living, breathing, bleeding things more often than not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUNL7PjBr8U

>>529388679
>Dog is so hands off for a pet class it's actually boring too. Sienna Necromancer actually gets third "weapon" which lets her give more indepth commands to their Skellies, tell them to guard or attack something, summon them or spend them. With Arbites you just spam tag and honestly don't even have to
And no one liked Necromancer. Turns out trying to micro summons in a fucking Tide game sucks.

>>529434729
>We know hell is real, so don't do bad things
>Your grandpa is literally powering that honda civic because he sinned to much
Honestly I bet the society would be pretty safe and controlled when you dig a bit deeper, albeit with the threat of your kid coming back from school and accidentally signing a contract with a demon.

i'm ashamed to say that i almost bought aquilas to buy the veteran zealot and psyker cosmetics. i was literally on the checkout, 1 button away until i realized just how much it really was

>>529436664
>no one liked necromancer
???
it's the most positively rated one on steam

>>529395064
>>529391018
>>529390596
>>529390365
It's awful but it makes sense, immediately shilling the coat to players that liked the coat but also liked the red penance sets.
That being said the whole silver and red thing with that set doesn't seem to be nearly as popular as the base black and gray among players.

Fartshart really needs a story mission toggle or to disable the story mode modifier for aurics. Why did they even think a modifier to control spawns (aka reduce them) would make story missions more cinematic when all story missions add are new voicelines and a post-mission cutscene?

Found a weird bug that locks me out of Damnation Maelstrom but not Heresy or Auric Maelstrom

>>529404018
Truth be told, having the gunner or bulwark explode in two after I blast him with a bolt pistol looks extremely satisfying.

>>529437170
cause normal aurics are so horribly paced that there's never any time ofr place for voicelines to play
This is why they keep putting "increased banter" in the patchnotes. They up the banter frequency because they can see on their end it barely plays. But they don't realize it's because aurics have 0 pacing and are literally just non stop spawns.
I'm not saying auric needs 0 spawns but in order for voicelines to actually play the game needs liminal areas that aren't made to be fighting in, just for pacings sake. Elevators are currently the only such thing. In ratclick you had certain paths that only ever had a couple enemies on them, shit like that

I know the counterargument here is "but i want non stop action!", I do too but it's also nice to hear the voicelines because honestly there is so much fucking dialogue in this game I've never heard and will never hear because I only play aurics that it's kind of sad. If it means I've got an empty hallway to walk through rarely then so be it

>>529434729
Do you have a better resolution pic of this? I can’t see shit.
>>529436423
That’s already a thing. The Dark Mechanicus use possessed sentient vehicles

>>529437610
READ NIGGA READ

>>529435585
I doubt I'll do more with it than set up keys to spam lights or fast heavies so that something like that Tac Axe doesn't make me hate life. It is kinda neat you can do that stuff, but I don't want it to play the game for me besides saving me from RSI

>>529435740
Yeah running Laspistol without my old macro is awful.

>>529437876
I've played lower difficulties like malice just to hear some voice lines and even then it doesn't work.

I think Fatshark should just tweak the stuff so that voice lines sometimes play regardless of the action. Admittedly it wouldn't make much sense since talking about the weather during a fire fight is gonna get you killed bur I want to hear that dialogue damn it.

when are we finally going to get kasrkin armor so I can use something new?

>>529438005
Yes, a chaos engine. Read the fucking filename.

>>529438208
That's the other alternative I guess. I think it was nice how ratclick had places like going to the tower on against the grain where there weren't a ton of enemies so characters actually talked to eachother

Yep, he goes to the blacklist

>>529438371
why does your guy look like he buys almond milk lattes at starbucks and has a tiny dog in his purse

>>529438098
that's retarded

>>529439089
the moustache is a british thing... sergeant majors always have elaborate moustaches

REJOICE, SINNERS.

>>529439304
It's also how he looks actually tiny and skinny

>>529439089
Slav-coded post

>>529399521
It literally says, "Staggering an enemy gives you 1 stack" on both you lying sack of shit.

The arby shotgun is a better bolter without any investment

>>529440169
I just wish they had better fire rate. At least mk8 it feels a bit sluggish, and give mk8 slight bit more ammo in the magazine, like 5 or 6. I ask for it because I want to be able to mag dump it better.

>>529438371
Why oink on the fancy looking plasma if you're going to look like a dirty grunt soldier

>>529440169
Yes but the bolter synergies much better with the arby talents

how do i back out i accidentally clicked yes

>>529440661
$50k at the barber

>>529440717
wow the barber and sefoni running a scam here

>>529439340
Did they address the crashing caused my the eye I'm not supposed to have?

>>529441016
They decided to let you use the eye cosmetics after their biggest bootlicker threw a hissy fit

>>529441574
Well its still crashing me in the lobby

>queue for my dogshit story missions cause i'm curious if there's anything new
>they're empty as fuck
>people insist on standing still and not just speedrunning them
jesus christ man

is havoc 33-40 basically the same difficulty? My 40 games sometimes feel easier

>>529442327
yes it gets easier

>already got my True Survivor title
Comfy to know I don't have to grind that retarded mode like the other havoclets

>>529442327
There's technically a slight curve in mechanical difficulty, but havoc 40 players are more generally competent than anyone below, and the difficulty spike of Fading Light II is already behind you.

I'll wait a couple weeks for the retards to leave the games

>>529443113
Anon...

>>529440585
because Plasma guns are sacred relics and you need to appease the machine spirit in them or they violently vent and roast you. what better to ward off daemons and warp entities that'll cause it to kill you than some fancy decorations dedicated to the god emperor?

I'm not trollign or anything, but I really don't understand how can Helldivers be so succesful. It's a mindless grind adn the gameplay is not that great, it's just a shallow game and I got bored after like 1 week.

>>529442327
maps have seeds too, sometimes the director goes apeshit sometimes not

>>529441574
All that bootlicking paid off

>>529444213
Also some maps are just easier than others (Sycorax is one of the easiest because the finale is basically free, while Smelter can be absolute cancer even at the start), and some modifiers and modifier combinations are harder than others (any two resist/regen mods really want you to run much more burst damage and STILL feel far too spongy)

>>529445652
I feel like hab dreyko is another really difficult map because it's so cramped. Constant tight hallways makes dealing with the horde and boss combos nasty

>>529446031
the worst part about really tight maps is that a trapper can just shoot a net from one end of the corridor through a hallway packed with mobs and they're guaranteed to net someone at the end if you're stuck in melee

>>529415383
Bomb thrower
Like fire bomber except the bombs explode instantly and throw you away

>>529445652
Speaking of which, when are they changing havoc modifiers? I only started playing havoc again recently and the encroaching garden has to be among one of the worst ones.

>>529446031
But choke points make the hordes easier to deal with? Tight hallway means you have to fight less enemies at any time and they're all lined for inferno staff/flamer. Also arbeetsu mines work best in hallways.

>>529446031
It probably goes without saying that Clandestium is probably the "hardest" because bad RNG alone can force a wipe.
>going inside is suicide because a mutant can throw you into a burster or behind bulwarks, which is a death sentence
>going outside is suicide because a billion things can knock you off
>the power section is really open with gunner spam and annoying objectives that kinda really want stealth

>>529446476
Havoc just rolled over into a new "season" with the current update, so not for a long while. Garden seems to be the current theme.

Whenever that arbites personality screams "block fodder" it always sounds like rot father to me and I get Vermintide 2 flashbacks

i like using the tactical axe on arbeetus
the cleave makes me happy

>>529446202
maybe the dog has spoiled me but playing arbys a bunch recently the trapper is my most feared enemy. I don't think they should nerf them though if they had to have direct line of sight they would be pretty useless. Their audio cues should be the top priority for the audio channels though, that shit should never get culled because too much is playing
>>529446492
they can but if you get something like twins it can really disrupt positioning and get people cornered real fast
>>529446572
at least barrel city is in the start of the map, anywhere else and it would be a lot less funny

>>529447254
>they can but if you get something like twins it can really disrupt positioning and get people cornered real fast
Chokepoint is literally perfect then. Arbeetsu throws one mine at the end of the hallway and it stops the entire horde in place and completely isolates the twins so all 4 of you can focus on raping them quickly.

Is dog still bugged? Did they patch it applying max bleed stacks and other passives yet?

>>529447254
>trappers
Yeah the audio channel thing is fucking cancer. I've been netted too many times just because fagshart is too retarded to code audio properly.
I do think they should be nerfed because trappers have unfair bullshit going on. The fact that they can net you through dozens of bulwarks is stupid, and enforces a kiting playstyle while invalidating a hold your ground playstyle. You can perfectly stagger, block, etc. while 360 degree surrounded, and then a single trapper just ends you because it's literally impossible to counter from that position. There are times where you are literally helpless to even fight back against them, so the actual counter is to never get yourself cornered, which is gay. The only counter play is cuck bubble.
It's pretty clear that half the shit in this game was never meant to reach these levels of enemy density. I doubt there were ever supposed to be more than 2 bulwarks on the screen at any given time.

>kill 250 enemies during castigators stance
>kill 3500 enemies marked by execution order
over/under on them mixing the numbers on these up on accident

>>529447628
The bleed node now functions correctly, applies to the initial target, and is actually quite strong.
The dog still triggers all relevant stagger and successful attack passives.
Remote detonation still fully stacks puncture, see >>529411315
The dog supposedly no longer pushes bursters, but I've had one instance today where another player complained about his own dog doing that. I didn't see, so I can't verify. I've personally given up on trying to engage bursters in melee when teammates are around, because some QUINTUPLE NIGGER always shoots them in my face. I swear I've taken more health damage from friendlies shooting bursters than anything else over the past week.

>>529448074
>supposedly no longer pushes bursters
Yeah that's a fucking lie.

>>529447628
they fixed the tag bug but introduced a new one, i can't dog tag things other players have normally tagged.

>>529448074
>The dog supposedly no longer pushes bursters,
I literally just griefed a teammate by having my dog push a burster at him

>>529447737
>It's pretty clear that half the shit in this game was never meant to reach these levels of enemy density
I wish enemies were tougher and there were less of them. How would it work? I'm not the game designer.

>>529396818
A lot of them are visible on the initial prisoner outfits you have at level 1

>>529451607
That shit's usually fucking lame. That's one of the issues with all of the nuDoom games.

>>529447840
I don't think so, Castigator lasts like 10 seconds and Exe keeps tagging shit all game, I finished both kinda fast, but I play a lot.

>>529438371
never ever

>>529450756
dog tag should just be its own keybind that doesn't tag the enemy for allies
however consoles can't do that so we can't get good control schemes :)

I HAD TO CARRY A FUCKING BUNGA TEAM IN FUCKING AURIC AND MOST OF THEM WERE FUCKIGN HAVOC 25+ WHEN WILL ALL THESE RETARDS FUCK OFF BACK TO HELLDIVERS 2 REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>529452162
Just get the mod, chuddie
t. some fagsharter probably, else this would be a native key bind

>>529452004
>it will lack any kind of neck protection
can't wait

>Tag distant enemy for dog deletion so my team can deal with the swarm of closer-ranged enemies without worrying about it
>entire team proceeds to focus fire on the tagged enemy instead of the half-dozen CRUSHERS doing the CRUSHERdance a foot away from them
Why is it always like this? Same thing when playing BB psyker. Are most players genuinely that fucking stupid?
that's a rhetorical question, of course

>>529451979
are you dumb dude? even if it was reversed castigators stance would be faster
3500 enemies is trivial, 250 marked enemies is 3-4 games

>>529452909
dog tagging is basically hard to distinguish from regular tagging during chaos and nubs and dipshits may not even known what it means, that purple is a bit too similar to red, which is especially a problem if some dipshit dogtags a daemonhost.
Dog tagging in pugs basically would be better off not being visible to them.

>>529452909
I stopped taking the team highlight on Executioner's Stance because entire squads of randoms would suicide themselves chasing that yellow dragon.

okay wow interesting techno sorcery

>>529452909
I swear most players don't possess object permanence. They see shiny thing, they shoot shiny thing, and forget about the crushers in the process.
I just had two motherfuckers run past a pinged, and marked ammo crate, that didn't pick it up until I ran back to hold their hands to do it.

>>529453280
Oh shit, for some reason I thought only Elites/Specials count during Castigator just like Exe, Castigator would prob still be faster desu, but idk it doesn't take long to do either if you play the game.

mmmmmm moebian steel.....yumby

>>529454107
>but idk it doesn't take long to do either if you play the game.
I'm 18 games in and I'm 70% through the penance
shit is absurd

>>529388679
Yes but Arbites is fun! And DOGGO!

Didn't read your comment btw.

>>529454423
Emperor alone knows what makes it so much better than all the other steel.
the dinguses on mars probably forgot a heat treating technique or something.

I don't mind the bleed dogsplosion. Incentivizes arbys to be on special overwatch as they DOT the elite pack. It's a problem on low difficulties. However, that's just the arbys in general in low difficulties.

>>529456038
Bleed dogsplosion is based and fun, and only angry shitters even care about it. Cheesing bleed onto shit is something half the classes can already do, and Arbites doesn't even do it particularly well.

>one charge every minute
>only procs stacks so long as you're wielding the BP/Bolter
>compared to fragfag vets dropping 6+ stacks per toss every ten seconds in havoc
>or psyker capping bleed stacks on every enemy on the map BEHIND WALLS by spamming warpslice

Fuck me I never thought I'd see the day when /v/tards parroted opinions as stupid as Steam discussion smoothbrains.

>>529456436
And vet even gets untranny strike on top of it all.

>>529438378
You mean Daemon Engines. And no, what I’m talking about aren’t those, they’re exactly what I said they are, regular vehicles that are possessed.>>529438440

>>529456436
>>529456038
Reminder that some people really, really hate getting carried.
What's even worse is that I'm pretty sure a little bit of smart targeting with Razor-Jaw Augment achieves extremely similar results.

>>529439089
what a strange observation to make
>>529440972
the economy aboard the mourningstar isn’t exactly bustling please understand

>>529451943
They managed to somewhat remedy it with other mechanics lately but yeah it’s still kind of glaring
>>529446776
That’s so cool actually :)

>>529445652
I think Ascension Riser, Silo Cluster (big dropdown at beginning), and Clandestium Gloriana (Snow map with swagger) are the hardest maps in the game. Hab Gayko is only hard at the beginning and finale.
Easiest is Babyrax

>>529456436
kek @ the metaslave cope in this general
>dogsplosion le good cause other classes can also abuse le bleed

>>529458153
>NOOOO DOG IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE GOOD
I do think it should be fixed down to only one stack application per boom, but this stance is just as embarrassing.

>>529458153
correct
fix all of them and we won't have a problem
fix only one and we do

Welp, I'm no longer a special snowflake with my eye augment. I guess it's time to move on to something new.

>>529459367
All of those should be fixed, but fatshark is kind of in a weird spot when it comes to doing so, because these bugs have shaped entire metas around them. Without untranny strike abuse, a bunch of shit would be much worse and potentially borderline non-viable, so some things should likely be buffed to compensate, like making frags stronger, giving very minor buffs to flamer/staff, etc.
Unfortunately fatshark are also incredibly retarded, can't play their own game even at a malice level, and can't balance for shit, so this will never happen.
They're also too dumb to code right, so, uh... yeah I don't think we're getting a fix. Best we can hope for is them rewriting the way remote detonation is coded to make it so puncture really does only trigger once. That's realistic.

>mall cop can reach 249 toughness with full +17+5% curios
Wow that's actually kinda gross, huh. I'm kinda second guessing my choice of taking a health curio for true grit.

>>529460690
Been shopclicking pretty often and I'm still stick at 16/16/17

just redownloaded darktide after not playing it forever and leveled my zealot to 30
now how do i zealot

>>529461064
I just spent 100 grand in melkbux on gambling.

>finally buy darktide because I heard kerillian's VA is in it now
>have fun with dredd class, try veteran class
>OI GUVNA ME MINGE IS RIGHT ITCHY BLOODY 'ELL
why

>>529461193
Bri'ish IP.

>>529461171
Huh, I never thought of that before. Thanks anon, finally going to get that missing 2% on all my characters.

>>529461108
Learn how to charge gunners and learn good positioning

>Go Get 'Em increases the effective max range in which Cyber-Mastiff can automatically select potential targets from 16m to 45m.
Hmm, huh... I was kinda against taking dog keystones at first, but I think I'll be keeping this. The damage increase is useless, and the targeting preference is whatever, but the range increase is fucking humongous.

>>529462818
Thanks for sharing
*shakes your hand*

So are the only available difficulties now the regular missions up through Auric and then Havoc? Auric feels pretty easy now, but that may be because Arbitrator is busted as fuck. Did they just straight take out Maelstrom?

>>529463768
Maelstrom is there, just look around on that shit board for it.
and yanno, try to pull that shit on veteran instead of arbie and see how it feels

>>529463887
I found it. God the new board looks ass. My main has been Zealot actually.

>>529461193
>be into girlboss shit
>pick girlboss voices
>wtf she's gross and annoying?
self inflicted

>>529461193
all the female vet voices are terrible, especially professional
males options are far superior

Arbitrator was fun for a while, but my heart lies with Veteran

>>529467362
Same but Zealot

>>529467362
Same but ogryn, which is basically arbites so i'm still having fun with the arbites and have hundreds of hours of fun left

>>529467362
I started with Veteran until they finally let resources and shit carry between classes. Then my heart went straight to Zealot. And now I'm a cop

You guys keep saying Ogryn got buffed, i just returned after arby, Ogryn feels worse than ever to me and oggie is what i cleared 40H with when havoc released whats the dog on deal

>>529468730
you got used to how retard op arby is

>>529468730
You forgot to spend your talent points

>>529468849
I imagine the other classes are going to be buffed up to his level rather than nerfing him. I feel like I could probably take on Havoc at this point when before with my Zealot I could rarely succeed in Auric Damnation.

>>529469416
Yeah they'll just keep buffing everything to avoid bad reviews. Even H40 is getting powercrept

>>529461193
You brought that on yourself dumbass

>>529442878
I look like that

>>529442878
My only havoc achievements left are the 100 games (im at 97) and the weekly one both of which I havent progressed in months. My assignment got dropped down to 30 and I just never felt like regrinding it. Obnoxious dogshit system

i remember seeing someone a few threads back saying a testers suggestions were added way stronger than they wanted and that it was a fatshark W

after seeing the state of arbites right now... was it really a W? this shit is extremely retarded right now and i wish it was avoided

>>529461193
>I will play militant woman in Warhammer
>she behaves like a hardass lowbrow cockney lass

>>529470173
>after seeing the state of arbites right now... was it really a W? this shit is extremely retarded right now and i wish it was avoided
I'm not saying there aren't a couple of good players here, but your responses here are going to be shaped by how a lot of people are really dogshit and actually need this level of crutch.
I mean, you're playing right now, right? You're playing with randoms, right? You notice how they play the same Arby you play, with the same busted OP weapons and shit, but they still manage to go down sometimes? If the class was any less OP they would literally be non stop dead

The ogryn is still stronger in melee than the arbites

>>529470650
I just realized my arbitrator character has literally never gone down and he's 30+38 now

>>529470719
Maybe, but the arbite is a tanky son of a bitch, you basically get like 20+ toughness back everytime you swing your dick at the enemies.

>>529470719
Ogryn is stupidly broken and an overtuned piece of shit.

>>529470342
Man, it's been a while since I've seen Arino's face

>got headphones with a fantastic sound stage
>suddenly notice I can hear things behind me with perfect precision in most games
>except darktide

>>529470650
>If the class was any less OP they would literally be non stop dead
this wasnt the case before arbites was added, it wasnt the case before the ogryn rework, it wasnt the case before skill trees were added, and so forth
some people just arent good at the game, which isnt a rip into them, but it is just why they still go down (we see a lot more of them atm because of the massive spike in player count the new class brought, people who need to learn/relearn the game)
the skill level of the randoms you get shouldnt be the justification for a class this overtuned being okay to exist to be honest

>>529471841
>got headphones with a fantastic sound stage
name?

>>529471841
just use the Spidey Sense mod

>>529471880
Sennheiser HD 560 S

>>529471864
>this wasnt the case before arbites was added, it wasnt the case before the ogryn rework,

>>529471841
let me guess, you need more

>>529471864
No, there were definitely way more deaths on my teams on average before the arby + ogryn rework. Nowadays the randos average 1 knockdown. It used to be that one or two people were hardstuck to the totem pole in most games.
Of course we can pretend people just got better, but my counteraergument to that is that they get knocked down once per game on arbites.

now that razor-jaw augment is fixed whats the new arby build

>>529473824
Wdym, it's still puncture bleed bug exploit

>>529474025
hah yeah...what does that look like again...?

WHY THE FUCK DID FATSHARK RESET HAVOC RANKS?
I GRINDED TO 40 WHEN IT FIRST RELEASED BUT NOW I CANT GET A SINGLE FUCKING GROUP BECAUSE IT SAYS IM NOT RANK 40 AND I HAVE TO START FROM LEVEL 20 AGAIN?
FUCK YOU FAGGOT SWEDES

>>529474235
you use puncture on your bolt pistol and shock explosion which now applies max bleed stacks in a fat aoe, it's that easy

>>529474573
Yeah I'm not regrinding havoc. They'll just reset it again anyway what's the fucken point of suffering thru the shitters? Massive waste of time, I'm not engaging with this trash. Like I know the thought is
>oh but after not playing for some months surely you'll be rusty!
okay then I'll play 2 games and my muscle memory gets me back to where I was. I don't want to play fucking 20 games with dogshit retards stuck at havoc 20 fuck that

>>529474573
It's ass. I played several games the other day and only won one because most people in the 30s at this point genuinely belong there and aren't good enough to go further. And I'm not good enough to solo it when multiple bosses are up, which is usually when these other people die.

>>529474573
player engagement :)

>>529474573
the non-bitching-and-moaning reason why is the fact that the season reset due to them adding inferno to the condition list, so its a change in the rotation hence the bump down to the rank floors
this has been confirmed too by devs themselves

>>529475906
How does this explain why the ranks need to drop? No shit it's a new season, the question was why a new season needs to drop your rank.

>>529475906 (me)
the bump down when they change modifiers im not against to be honest, it makes sense to re-earn your rank when they mix stuff up, i just wish that change was every 6 months instead of 3, and came alongside both no deranking, and the ability to play lower ranks
but what can you do

>>529474573
Part of the reason why I won't bother with Havoc anymore.
I never liked it to begin with, the party system is fucking atrocious and the way people treat it is the exact same as MMOs. I spent years in one of the best guilds on my server as the main tank and I am NOT inclined to return to that meta slave, ultra serious bullshit that treats gaming as a second job.
Beside that, I just find Aurics more fun. They feel like the perfect level of difficulty. Things can get pretty chaotic at times, but at the end of the day it still feels very "power fantasy", one man army type shit. Havocs just felt like I was running from room to room with my tail between my legs. Even when we won, it just didn't feel as satisfying, more stressful if anything. Especially with how angry people get with this shit.

Can I get a Heavy Eviscerator build pls? I presume I need to use mk XV version too

How's Razor Jaw Augment?

Seems pretty interesting now that it's working, but it costs 2 points for me to get it. Worth it??

>>529477313
fotf

>>529477313
okay here you go

>>529477372
It's hard to tell so early, but obviously it makes the dog cause way more damage
An electric bleed dog can kill a beast of nurgle in 2 minutes

god this game is so fucking shit. all of the specials are janky bullshit and the only way the game ever kills you

>>529478529
Having an issue?
Perhaps a skill issue?

>>529476558
You summarized it perfectly well done *pats your butt*

>>529478916
OW MY DICK

Holy shit mr estrogen went full libtard on his last video

>>529480348
what does this even mean
god you all such faggots

>ogryn calls Arbitrator "Plate-face"
>can never not wear a helmet or else I'll feel like a fraud
thank you for keeping me in check, Behemoth

>>529480428
Went on an unironic attack against "anti-woke 4chan grifters" and told people who he deemed to be bigots to fuck off and said they weren't welcome in his community. Bro, i just wanted darktide commentary

>>529407658
it's what makes it so that trying to close in on gunners to force them into melee gets you killed because they choose not to stop shooting you at point blank

>>529480428
It's just one mentally ill retard who picks one gay e-celeb to obsess over in here. Before this it was some fat brown femboy named Tanner. He even posted screenshots of his discord and whined when he got banned there

these arbites get 800k damage every game, wtf is this

>>529477715
That sounds good in theory but 2 minutes is a fuck long time for a Beast to stay alive. And is that also spec'd into dog damage or is it just those two nodes?
I know that's completely alone, but still... I don't know if that's worth two points.

What blessing and refine should I use for bolter to exclusively use to burst down the monster

queue for Maelstrom NOW.

>>529477313
Here are two basic eviscerator builds I muck about with in Aurics. I find the mkIII quite fun, in an unga bunga light spam to victory way.

>>529480659
Take your meds, schizo. I have always disliked tranner

>>529480428
calm down raj

>>529481631
Perhaps you should have some introspective and understand what it means when you're our new tannerposter but for Mr E

I fucking love Arbites

>>529481767
I have never posted about mr e before, schizo

>>529482060
Same.

I tried without the dog and while it was obviously powerful, I just didn't care for it.

>>529481035
Unyielding perk and Cavalcade blessing

>>529482210
maybe you should never do it again either you obnoxious e-celeb shilling faggot

>DRG on sale
Are people still playing this or should I even bother

>>529483046
How am i shilling for him when i am criticizing him? You are throwing a serious hissy fit right now. Go scream into a pillow or something. YIKES!

>>529483105
Very much still alive. You just don't see it discussed here much anymore because it's not getting any updates of substance anymore.

I just tried gun psyker with mk 12 recon and it was shit, the shredder pistol was nice, what other guns work well with psyker?

>>529483484
>shredder pistol was nice
Use the vraks infantry autogun. If you think the shidder autopistol was good then the vraks will blow your socks off

>>529483105
it's going to get one last season update before they presumably move on to Rogue Core early access development and leave DRG in the dust forever

I was doubtful of rogue core, but the early playtesters are already telling them their roguelite draw-straws upgrade system is fucking awful, so hopefully they fix it before the game is even in early access

>>529481098
Oooh yeah, time to channel my inner lumberjack.

>>529484031
Don't they use axes?

>>529483315
the tanner shill also constantly posted negative stuff about tanner
stop posting e celebs, stop

>>529389759
Don't tell me that, I spent about $50 on it to gift to a mate to test out last year and was then going to get it myself so we could play together. What a waste of money, I swear it had good reviews and everything when I bought it.

>>529484137
When they want to cut down a tree, yes. But if you need to kill a tree completely, eviscerator works best. I saw it on discovery channel.

>>529484316
What didnt you like about it? Other than some bosses being jank I quite liked it. The level scaling was also kinda annoying I guess

>>529484482
I think flamers are good at killing trees too

>just got done with a game
>going to check my penances
>see a guy who is level 40
???????

>>529484263
Shut up, incel

the amount of crashing i'm experiencing is fucking phenomenal, how does a game get worse after a hotfix?

>>529485087
I like how it looses connection trying to load menus and UI too

>>529484890
Please understadn one of the Swedes accidentally integrated the true level mod while he was drunk and forgot about it after a vacation.

>>529484890
That is his havoc level

>>529483440
Not sure I would call that “very much alive”. Why did they stop updating it?

>zealot and arbites builds

>>529483440
5,716 people who don't know that darktide exists

>>529484575
>to gift to a mate to test out last year and was then going to get it myself
I haven't played it. He hasn't got around to it yet either, but almost sounds like it's not worth it.

>>529483440
DRG did very well for the years it was active. Let it fade away.

>>529485285
>>529485326
Weird.

>>529485385
Grew tired and bored from working on the same game for years apparently. I get it as an artist, but from business perspective it's a dumb decision, game was growing nicely.

>>529485805
Artist, huh?
Post your're are art

>>529485894
he didn't say he was an artist, he implied it was from an artistic perspective. You're just illiterate.

>>529485989
Literate, huh?
Post you're are literature

I prefer the Spearhead over the Bolt Pistol for Dogsplosions. It's slower to pull out, sure. But if you're almost entirely spec'd into melee, you're basically only pulling it out for the biggest cunts around. Dog can usually deal with disabling someone quickly. Not all the time, mind you, but I think it'd worth it when you need to instantly delete Crushers or a boss.

>diabetes is stagger class!
>but weakspot hit also counted as stagger
Dishonest design

>>529486245
the bolt pistol explosion range blessing works on the dogsplosion though, right?
what blessings on a dogsplosion bolter?

>>529486482
entirely designed to make force of will and forceful work on bosses

I liked the double barrel before.
I really really like the double barrel now.

>>529486245
I remember when every illiterate person online kept spelling it Spearheard.

>>529486587
>>529486482
>entirely designed to make force of will and forceful work on bosses
Your dog can keep these stacks up for you alone at max stacks 100% of the time. The only time Concussive is relevant is if the boss is entirely alone. Which means you're playing malice or heresy or something.
Outside of that one very specific and unlikely event even on only Damnation, you're always going to be at Max Stacks

>>529486587
>the bolt pistol explosion range blessing works on the dogsplosion though, right?
Which one are you talking about? Lethal Proximity? That only mentions Close Range shots. Are you sure that works with Dog Explosion?

>>529487030
The explosion radius portion of it.

>>529486675
>Spearheard
Like a mix between britney spears and amber heard

>>529487154
Nah, I just tried it in meat grinder. Doesn't seem to work. This is such a stupid glitch. Also that marks another lie a certain tuber that someone itt is obsessed with told me.

>>529486895
Light attack retard trying out his new bait
Tell light attack retard to "fuck off and kill himself" when he starts posting stupid shit. Let's try it out now!

Fuck off and kill yourself, light attack retard

>>529487154
Just checked it out. Doesn't work. Recorded a shitty test if you want to see it.

>>529487535
What are you talking about? What did I say that was wrong?

>>529481098
in my experience eviscerator feels extremely bad without martyrdom because it struggles even with poxwalkers

>>529485787
What that guy said. That's havoc clearance

>>529487726
>say the most retarded shit ever
>what guys what did i say what's so wrong guys whaaat?
Dishonest cunt

>>529488005
Then explain it. Because everything I said is 100% true and easily provable.

Why are we bothering to debate the worth of Concussive when it isn't completely worthless and the only node that connects to Suppression Protocols, the far superior precursor to Breaking Dissent, anyway?

>>529488289
idk maybe he's talking about the bug that makes skullkrusher not refresh after it's initial 5 seconds duration if the target is affected by concussive
which is the most common case with bosses

>>529488741
Surpression Protocols is pretty much the only reason I've been considering getting Concussive. But it's a two point investment. Not sure if it's worth it.

>>529488749
sybau.

>>529488005
Is this a bot? You can literally go into the Meat Grinder and test it straight away...?

Since it looks like there is a bunch of anons here who totally know what they're talking about - Does this apply if a ally in Coherency kills my dogs pounced target? Or is it only me?

>>529488946
because Canine Morale and Imposing Force are at that same exact point in the tree, and both are infinitely better
they're also preceded by Voltaic Mandibles, which is basically required if you're bringing the dog

I just spectated a level 1500 console player, holy shit does playing on a controller look painful

>>529489638
He was alive and you weren't

Let that sink in

who keeps letting the sink out
we need that thing to stay inside so we can wash our smelly, kebab-poop covered hands

>>529489020
You need to go back

>>529489934
Yeah it was crazy, it's almost like watching someone with cerebral palsy. He clearly knew what he was doing but his body does not do what it's supposed to

Since people are talking about Talent points and whatnot, I want to use this opportunity to bring this talent up.

This does not work the way it says it does. First of all, It does NOT trigger once you hit 10 Stacks of Forceful. Instead, it triggers once you LOSE one or all of your stacks from 10.
This means that for the most part, you will never EVER lose it and trigger the talent, UNLESS you have Arbites Vigilant, which causes you to lose all stacks and gain 25% Strength.
This isn't too bad, BUT the only skill that basically lets it work throws everything on the ground and you only have 3 seconds at that point.

It is not worth it.

Piety, or Momentum for Relic Blade?
The crits seem nice with the heat reducing blessing, on top of just dealing a lot of damage.

>>529490621
Blazing Piety

your zealot builds please I need one for both the dueling and eviscerator and do you still run yours with revolver?

>>529488005
Mr. Estrogen, you should learn to control your blood pressure.

>>529483440
There's no point in getting DRG because their devs are already making a new game; Rogue Core

>>529490240
Most of those nodes can be ignored lol.

>>529490240
That seems like a massive bug.
Should bring that to Fatshark's attention.

>>529490621
The real debate was Piety or Martyr for me. IIRC, Martyr gets it some heavy armor breakpoints. Just have to choose if you wanna play it safe or not. Both are very strong

>>529491031
Seems like the only nodes worth anything on that Keystone are Will of the Lex and Arbites Vigilant

>>529490621
Piety works with zealot tree much better overall but crits won't give you massively increased breakpoints on relic, momentum gives you a lot of attack speed without playing like a retard like martyrdom requires and it has much better preceding nodes on top

>>529491531
You get a ton of attack speed from Piety anyway by popping FoTF often enough to give extremely high uptime to the 20% attack speed, so it's not even much of a gain since unless you really go out of your way for backstabs, you're gonna get some IJ attack speed in exchange for FoTF uptime (not to mention FoTF's other benefits).
>preceding nodes
Not exactly. The backstab kill CDR is better than damage taken CDR in aurics, but the +2 wounds node is 16% melee damage, 13% toughness DR, and 8% attack speed on Martyr builds. That far outweighs either of IJ's preceding nodes.
>inb4 acting like you aren't running both Sustained Assault and Faithful Frenzy regardless of keystone

>>529490621
piety because the crit talents are the best things zealot has going for him

>>529490889
Here's my Evis build. Can't help with Dueling, never used it. Shred and Savage Sweep for Tigrus Mk XV, you can swap Sweep for Rampage on Mk III.
Revolver is always good, but I find it a bit redundant if you bring the knives. I'd rather take the bolter since Evis can't deal with Mauler/Crusher trains very well.

>>529490240
good ol' fatshark wording

>>529492291
>trading sustained assault for disdain and some more toughness on kill
ohshitniggerwhatareyoudoing.jpg
I'd personally drop Thy Wrath and the piece of shit before it too, but that's less offensive

>>529492291
why on earth would you take these two dead nodes instead of the free melee damage nodes that lead to IJ?

>>529492291
Stupid fuck

>>529492291
That is the same fucking build everyone else is using, but you fucked up twice...the same fucking build but you fucked up two fucking times. Zealot is a solved class.

>>529490240
>>529491087
This isn't true. The buff icon that shows up is the linger duration, that is, the "3 seconds afterwards" as written. The buff works when you have 10 stacks but doesn't get an icon of its own, which is why you were confused.

>>529492441
>>529492484
I like my wrath to be swift. What can I say?
This is also a fine option, but Blood Redemption stays on. It's a pretty significant increase in toughness.

>>529492924
Prove it.

>>529492291
This is what I use for my zealot :D

>>529492924
Not that anon - But I'm testing it right now and it's not appearing at all. I'm also not noticing a 10% Attack Speed increase. I could be wrong, but if I let the buff lapse, the the only icon that appears afterward is the talent icon. There is no other icon with or without that talent that appears.

>>529492958
>Blood Redemption stays on. It's a pretty significant increase in toughness.
It's a fine node on builds that need it. A build that has Second Wind, Enduring Faith, and can spam Fury to get on-demand toughness doesn't need it. That build, especially with the fucking Eviscerator, needs damage. Blood Redemption is redundant and the weakest toughness option present, and TWBS is mostly an overly expensive crutch talent (with Havoc relic support builds being the main exception so that your relic can't get interrupted). If you wanna run it that way, that's fine, but it's not one of the better ways to build it.

>>529492998
>>529493293
It's faster at 10 stacks even if the icon doesn't appear

>>529489421
read the guide by kuli that boy knows the code
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3472722314

Forceful or Execution Order?

>>529492998
>>529493293
I did several tests where i counted the amount of swings i could do in 20 seconds. I always got more swings at 10 stacks, so the talent works

>>529493293
Use a slower melee weapon like the second mark of mace + shield or crusher. Day and night difference between 0 and max stacks.
The attack speed increase could only be explained by the talent working.

>>529493836
Forceful if you want to larp as a braindead buttonmashing ogryn
Execution Order if you want a pseudo maphack to auto-highlight nearby specials, and getting buffs for killing them

Testing Dog Damage with and without Dog Damage buffs.
>Razor-Jaw Augment
Seems to outright double your dogs effective damage. And if it bounces off an enemy, any enemy in the path of it moving or leaping will also have 8 stacks of bleed applied to it.
>50% Damage from Break the Line
Gives your dog effectively around 10-20% Damage increase depending on if it can pounce on them and keep them down, like any normal humanoid enemy. But Will do only around 10% more to enemies like Ogryns. For Monstrosities, it was around 15% since it kept falling off it.

Ultimately I don't see Dog centric builds being worth it. They're fun, but not very effective.

>>529492998
By mashing M1 as fast as I can and timing the video with the exact same moment the buff icons reset upon hit, you can see in the right video, where I have 10 stacks, that my weapon will reach the enemy faster, meaning the attack speed is working despite no icon showing
https://files.catbox.moe/lr1mds.mp4

>>529490240
Community note:
This has been debunked by real /coopg/ patriots

Source:
>>529492924
>>529493590
>>529493965
>>529494475

>>529462818
>The damage increase is useless
Not really. The faster it can maul something, the less time it spends knotting it, freeing it up to go knot someone else.

>>529494470
By that I mean the damage increase nodes. Voltaic Mandibles and the Bleed one seem really good.

But even 50% damage didn't add that much overall DPS making it a worthless talent. HOWEVER, the 150% passive from Execution Order is actually worth it.

>I ask a question
>no one answers or if they do answer, it's an obvious troll or someone telling me to kill myself
>some other anon makes a wildly stupid claim and dozens of anons start explaining indepth every facet of the interaction of the game and posting video evidence
I hate all of you so fucking much.

>>529495304
You get info by pretending to be retarded. Is this your first day on the internet or something?

>>529495304
I didn't respond because I genuinely don't know dog related mechanics
t. lone wolf talent picker