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Previous Thread: >>528994163

>>529449093 (OP)
ninjer

Oops, I forgot about the Rinne rerun, I was too busy looking at pantless elves.

>>529448817
>let it be known that anon:
>skipped Livana
no tail
>skipped sleepymage
no tail
>skipped birbdwarf
no tail
yes I have only rolled on savia

>>529448904
>John Drecom forgot about me too.
I'm used to it.

Another thread, another opportunity to clean your Chloes.

>>529454691
this you gwo
>>529455112

>>529457027
yes

I'm tired of waiting for big tiddy brown elf waifu. Bye bros.

ok, bye

>>529457694
Safe travel gwo.

>was gonna quit back when they fixed the frozen enemy bug since i used it to clear the mausoleum every 2 weeks
>realized im now strong enough to shitstomp everything there including the necrocores so i cant justify quitting anymore
im stuck here forever bros

if this month we get no content either we will just become another /ddg/...

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
nyontent?

uhhh i'm stuck in the 2nd mandatory sentry fight right before guarda boss since I'm out of resources... do I accept death or something

>>529460525
You just need to beat it then you won't have to fight those 2 encounters again only 1
If you can't do it put yourself to the front and kill yourself and do the fight again when you're stronger

>>529460525
probably, you should be pretty high on resources at that point though
you can wheel to the well

>>529460779
my stupid ass did the fight on the wrong end of the well like twice before lulu told me to fuck off and go around it and I was running dry from the backline spamming spells on the flower looking fucks
>frontline
it's not like they get to use skills

>>529457694
>Another fallen Big Titty Dark Elf enjoyer
This one's for you, my brother.

>>529460525
Did you not Farm the eva gear for the sentries?

>>529461927
frontline is fine
my backline however...

>>529462126
But the backline should be the easier one to gear...

>>529395471
I've started writing it down in notepad so I know when I can redo it
but I have 1 on all 6 of my main party
- octo scroll -
4/7 5:50pm
5/7 10:42pm
6/12 8:00pm

>>529462659
I would call this autism, but with the ways John Drecom has designed this game, I don't have the heart to

Reinstalled/relapsed Day 1 player. Just got Rinne. Is she good? What should I give her as Bonus Points?

>>529464945
>What should I give her as Bonus Points?
SPD.
SPD is the best stat for every class.
>Just got Rinne
kek
Enjoy your 10 million grind.
lol

>>529464945
luk if you like her and will hyperinvest
spd or str otherwise, mostly speed

>>529465112
>10 million grind
Come again?

>>529465814
>"What if advance classes need 2.5x the exp to level up?" asked Lulunarde
>"Brilliant!" said John Drecom

>>529465814
shes trash unless you grind out 2 +20 kunai for her. have fun with that.

>>529465814
she and other ninjas will be very middling without investment and grind to the max. Good luck anon, at least she has dissipation

This all sounds like horseshit. Kek. I aint doing any of that.

So is ninja protag even good? Does it have same EXP requirement as party member ningers?

>>529465814
advanced classes require double the xp requirement.
all i can say is get her to lvl 30, stuff her into dispatches every 12 hours, and come back to her in a week or two when she hits 8 million xp.

>>529468882
dissipate on your mc is strong to have.

>>529468882
Technically the protag has the same EXP requirements, but you can't send yourself on dispatches so the grind is going to feel a whole lot worse.

>>529468882
>So is ninja protag even good?
most likely, yes
>Does it have same EXP requirement as party member ningers?
yes
at the least having dissipate is 100% worth it
if you whaled and got 2 of the 3x wind daggers from crow dwarf banner those will probably last until abyss 5 (even at the +10 for 1 roll)
or kunais so you can have a stronger backrow character for autoing at lvl 30 with 2x +5 kunai they still do reasonable dmg
mc also has the advantage of selecting element / type weaknesses which further the value,
if nothing else its a side goal to work on during the kill 300 missions and biweekly mausoleum

this is against the grass enemy. its 3.5k without.

>>529470110
Hehe his ass is grass.

Where can i find 200 insects? Is there a floor with a bunch of the confusion flies?

>>529465814
without exageration, in the time you get Rinne to 60 you could have gotten from 4 to even 5 characters all the way from zero to 60. It takes that fucking long to lvl up advanced classes to the max.

The pro though? Ninjers are top quality class when at their full potential. Actual party changers.

>>529466115
Advanced classes needing more XP has been the case since Proving Grounds.

>>529471608
>2.5x exp
>4 or 5 characters
isn't it like 1 or 2 then

>>529471608
2 and a half character's worth of xp.
it's really not that bad.
the only conundrum is whether you should go with kiriha for the easier disciplines (which won't mean that much in the long run unless they buff them) or Rinne for the unique skill and being female.

>>529475392
nope, I have leveled characters from 0 to 60 3 or 4 times in the time it took to get her to 60.

Anons aren't making the math the right way. They are forgetting than from 40 to 50 and 50 to 60 you are going to have a penalty for gained XP for way, wayyyyyy longer than normal characters, making that final lap extra EXTRA tedious.

I jerk off to people in the slums passing through lulunarde and sullying her unknowingly

>>529480394
>grading a character past bronze before they have enough xp to get to 60

>>529482303
honestly though he must be doing something wrong because even at 50 you can get 9k xp per fight by bonking the necromancer sentry repeatedly

>>529482456
>bro just beat the necromancer 1000 times

>>529482456
Necromancer Sentry is the wrong way to level a character from 50-60. Southern Cave is way more profitable exp-wise.

>no female ninja enemies
wtf...

>>529471342
Ninja cave is full of them. Or grassland. Or den

>>529482456
>9k exp per fight
>as you keep leveling, the exp goes down
>fight a cancer necro sentry
ok. . .

>"hey maskman you're acting suspicious"
>"n-no I'm not"
>"nuh uh you are"
>repeat ad infinitum until he spills the beans
>"nah I'm not gonna help this retarded woman"
>"nuh uh you will"
>repeat ad infinitum until he does
why is he such a massive bitch for Lulunarde?

>>529488578
lulu feet

>Farming ninja caves for a couple of hours
>Remembered that there's an exchange shop
>Go to JEWeler
>Only have 5000 pills
>Need 12.5k just for the skill books
WTF, chests only give low double digit pills, you need hundreds just for the books and a thousand or more to clear the shop.

>>529489025
still better than dragon cave grind

so there's surety which makes you deal 1.75x damage (by default)
there's insta-kill which insta-kills the target at a set chance
what does critical do?

>>529489260
thats the insta-kill gwo...

>>529489528
the game counts crit tolerance and instakill tolerance as separate things thobeit

such a long way to level her...

>randomly find out about openings
does the game ever actually tell you about them?

>>529494226
your expected to learn of them when fighting the mimic for albano or during the boss fight against the ent/scorp. especially the mimic

>>529489142
dragon cave was mindless and easy. sure the booby traps in the chests were mildly annoying but at least auto run isnt gimped by millions of poison tiles or crit ninjas. also i was getting 150+ avg per dragon chest since they did scale

>>529498834
>mage trials
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>529498834
>ninjers are so bad they both get reclasses
lol

>>529494226
You can ask some NPC in tavern about stuff, blacksmith for smithing tips

>>529498834
>support-focus adventurer
It's time Fairybros
>Mage trials
Hope you inherited Tzalik to your Masketta kek.

>new another style adventurer
is that a new skin like Lana with boyfriend or Yaranaika Adam or an adventurer with weird class like tzalik man and berkanal?

>>529498834
im a new cutie with a small cute butthole
can I get the red ring from the permanent fighting grounds?

>>529498834
Glad I levelled mage masketta man right before ninjer...

>>529499214
i think wanderer masketta is better for the boss just because you can spam heavy strike/FPS

I really need to level up wanderer to 60...

>>529498834
>class change options for Rinne and Kiriha
WHAT THE FUCK
Is it soft confirming that ninjers will get no new skills past 60?

>>529499293
They would anticipate that already. Highly likely everything in there resist physical or stupid high evasion.

Also possible that they will require to do gimmick fights with how much cc mage has.

>all my mages are actually Priests

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>529499181
Either support Yeka or support Alice
But Alice is already good, so probably Yeka alter

>tfw had the urge to switch my Priest-Mage-Priest Alice to Mage again
Fine, John Drecom, I really like cute hat.

>>529499293
>>529499525
Wanderer masketta is better because he can tank while Tzalikman(coded as mage in the game) and Berka(also coded as mage in the game) both already have 400+ hp and can tank and do a lot of single target damage

>>529498834
>trials becoming permanent
isn't this a bad thing, wouldn't it have made way more sense to cycle through them and eventually run like one per month
maybe i just have granblue brain

Samurai Abe bros...reclass in 2 weeks...
Trust the plan...

>No actual content in sight
KILL JEAN DRECOM

Fighter Rinne, my beloved.

>>529499207
Without the glitch through the vampire.... mmm nyot for awhile

>>529498834
Fvark
So style as in like current adam.
Is alice not the only support or i guess it depends what they mean by support. But potentially new alice alt.

Hopefully sam for iarumas if it is sam and not bishop.

>fighter trials permanent
>only one chance at getting the ring for latelets like me
>ring can basically brick with all low rolls
WHAT IN THE ACTUALLL FUCKKKKKKKK JOHNNNN DRECOMMMMMM

>>529499926
I don't think they want the game to be seasonal FOMO-based, at least not now when there isn't a lot of content breadth

>>529500532
you can just spam FAS on it which is theoretically infinitely farmable

>>529500532
what you dont like the decent chance of rolling +1 atk% and +3 atk on le ebin ring??????

>>529500580
isn't it way more fomo this way though? you brick if you missed the initial run since there are only two total

>>529499637
wait cant you freely change between the 2 once you unlock the 2nd class?

>>529498834
>They will be able to change to currently available classes
So, no class change to the upcoming class. I wonder how John Drecom will fuck them. Rinne Priest and Kiriha Knight?

>>529500839
...No? You'd still be one behind regardless due to lack of time travel, the difference is now you don't have to wait in the order of 6 months and be playing during the fortnight it rotates in in order to get the ring.
Besides, 'someone started before me and so has more items than me' isn't FOMO, FOMO is 'oh no I can't stop treating this game like a job because I may miss limited time events I won't see until next year'

>>529498834
>they will be able to change to currently available classes
Does this mean only 1 class, or all classes? How it will work?
I assume no reskins considering laziness, but wording is very weird here. Imagine if Rinne and Kiriha get access to all classes at same time, it will be even stronger than MC then

>>529500701
>theoretically infinitely farmable
>suspected to be anywhere from 1/10000 to get from junk
uuh

>>529501173
>freely
lmao, you need to use a book or a ticket from the event.

>>529501350
*from extract
oopsies

>>529501280
retard, fomo is fear of missing out
if it was cyclical there would always be more chances
but now you can miss out on half of the currency that will ever be available for the event's shop

>>529501324
I think that's to confirm they aren't getting samurai.

>>529501661
But they still do get normal class, it's still huge and has major implications
I used to make fun of idea that normal class can get advanced reclass, but it seems to be real now

Is rinne worth pulling? Or wait for her 2nd class reveal

>>529502210
just wait maybe
the issue about ninjas ist hat getting their preferred gear is extremely ASS

I hope Rinner gets fighter

>>529501373
fucking jewcom
please tell me you dont need to use tags for them again...

>>529502573
You need double the tags for a 2nd class

>>529502381
Fighter or Thief is fine on Rinne, but knowing Drecom I think it's going to be Priest.

God why is the pity system in this game so dogshit its actually sad. So much potential left on a table I genuinely cant ever see myself spending money on this

>>529501280
if drecom stuck to what they said, and made it so that it would actually be rerun, not commonly but often enough, then missing out wouldn't actually be particularly bad or fomo
frankly, you could say that getting this ring makes it so you treat this game LESS as a job, since it's basically BiS gear for fighters for like 90% of people for the foreseeable future
>drecom releases farmable 5 star gear with stat bonuses as default traits
no...

Need to grind mage and or wanderer

>>529502956
>getting the ring makes you grind less = less job
now tell me why drecom would want that

>>529502690
say sike right fucking now

>>529503338
he's joking, Anon

confirmed thief and fighter kiriha.
knight mage rinne

would wanderer be the most cost-effective, or mage MC? assumedly most people have already grinded decent atk gear for a fighter MC so I'm leaning wanderer

>>529504034
depends if they have giga phys res preventing heavy 3+ spam. if you genuinely need to win via magic then your gonna want the mage mana pool

>>529504034
There's a chance they could see that coming and give all the monsters there really high def.

It will like the last exam.

>>529468882
It gives you a cool animation of masketto doing handsign when casting spells. 100% worth it

>>529482303
My lord ! Check these

>>529502573
No, grade doesn't change.

>>529498834
>Samurai from end of june to mid-july
FUCK YOU JOHN DRECOM

>2 eings for warrior
>Likely 2 rings for mages
>Every class gets 2 rings
I'm quite surprised they actually give out BiS items like this since you are better off never playing more than 2 of the same class in your team anyways.

>mage proving grounds
Sorry, Sheli, I need your clothes.

>>529504034
We don’t actually know if you can bring Wanderer in there yet, so I would level prioritize leveling Mage.
It’s very possible you could only bring Wanderer to the Fighter Trials since it’s just shittier fighter.

>>529505919
Should still level Mage though.

>>529502210
>Or wait for her 2nd class reveal
It might happen after her banner end
As always, savor the risk and pull for those you like

>>529505919
bwo, the uh image directly says "Wanderers and Mages" can enter
bwo. . .

>rinne class change
>elf
shes gonna cc into a fucking mage isn't she

>ninja is placed above thieves
>expecting both classes not being thieves

>>529506608
Rinne > Thief
Kiriha > Fighter

So where's a good place to level mage MC?

>>529506608
sorry bakagaijin, rinne-dono unique skill will be too powerful for a fighter
sorry bakagaijin, rinne-dono will be a priest-sama
you rike?

>>529507212
Port Town Repel Enemy Forces for pure exp or Le Bricken for loot + exp.
Ninja cave would work as well, but the enemy and loot spawns are more random than Le Bricken. The main reason for ninja cave is ninja gear and a wider variety of loot since Le Bricken loot is exclusively swords, daggers, greatswords, bows, and light armor.

>Iarumas will get class change into true samurai on top of previous custom class
AIEEEEEEEEE DRECOM SAMA IM SORRY FOR SKIPPING TZALIKMAN
RERUN HIM PLEASE

New class is Alchemist, retards.

>>529508090
I wish.

>>529498834
so uhh....where's the content?

>>529509456
in your butt

>>529509456
2 weeks

I am filtered on gamblers. Gib some advice pls.

I guess I should get around to finishing second port town route so I can become the Masketta Mage…

>>529511252
Bring bows and kill the poisonous scoundrels first
After that you can switch back to sword and shields to finish the rest
2 Priests really helps

>>529511390
First floor of ninja caves have a bunch of insects and magical beings.
I ignored the demons and did the above + chests + reversals.

>>529511252
Regen full fort, go all in until you kill the thieves, get spears for fighters to reach the backline
Or tzafist them lmao

>>529511252
Latumofis lv.5

>>529511252
1. Pray to Allah.
2. Tzalik
3. LA-
4. FPS
5. Latumofis 5

>>529511516
How much hp they have?

>>529507252
>Priest Rinne
>Moment of Finality now also scales with PIE
>Priest Weapon Mastery also increases its damage
>Priest spells make her even more of a backline support character
>still can't get any Kunais to drop and we'll have to wait for the next book selector event because of the increasingly stupid CC system

>>529498834
seriously what happened to the monthly events

>>529513469
They ran out of them 2 months ago.

how much evasion do I need for abyss 3?

>>529513469
They were prepared in advance way before release
Also June event was ninja cave

>>529514351
100-120 for bad and normal endings. 0 for true ending.

>>529514351
140 for frontline
90 for backline
It will be good enough up to gamba mans.

>>529512816
A lot

Does the soft cap for skills change with 2H weapons?

>>529498834
what is Rinne and Kiriha gonna get for ccs? Doesn't look like samurai because they said currently available classes

hope rinne gets priest cc

Drecom the Savia CC...?

>>529498834
>fighter trials becoming permanent
So how many rings will you be able to get in total?

>>529517241
Probably just one.

>>529517241
0, it was limited

>>529517241
They said it will be adjusted, i wonder if we can farm and buy everything on it this time.

>>529517241
I hope another one. With FAS it's basically more or less giving you a best in slot item for a fighter. You basically are done with rings for them unless you're EVA minmaxing (which is ass right now).

class changes would be interesting if the class change system wasn't pure shit...

Remember guys, last time a limited banner character got a class change, we got a class change scroll event. Trust the plan.It will come after the mage trials is over.

does anybody here use contracts? im trying them out while grinding repel enemy forces, and its cool to see my characters deal so much damage and have so little hp.

>>529499521
>Is it soft confirming that ninjers will get no new skills past 60?
Why would you come to that conclusion?

>>529525342
>special class that has no nameless adventurers
>given class change promotion/demotion to normal class
Considering last skill ninja gets at lvl38, it's not good sign overall

When is Red Brick getting a class change

>>529526207
Damn, I guess Fighter got no more skills after 50 when they changed Abenis into a Priest.

John Drecom made ninja class as a joke

they will retroactively add ninja skills of level 40-50 because it's the same as getting 60 for other classes

>ninja a useless class
not surprised one fucking bit.

>>529526381
Samurai.
2 weeks.
Trust the plan.

funny how everyone is calling Red Beard Red Brick when he has the best inherit in the whole game

>>529529616
>character is only good if you feed them to someone else
That's what you're saying right now.

>>529530282
It's the new cope, anon. let these guys have it

>>529499750
>Tzalikman(coded as mage in the game) and Berka(also coded as mage in the game)
>implying
They're coded as BRICK and won't be usable in any proving grounds at all.

no thanks mister red brick, I only have 3 buff slots and don't want your resistance.

>>529530941
cope fag, they will be used in that mode and all of tzalikman skippers and latefags will rope for missing out on him.

>>529529616
red brick's buff spell has way too much competition from macaldia and scrolls of shared power to be worth rolling for unless you're a leviathan or a retard.

>>529531427
I have fisting man and gorilla woman. It's just that based on my experience with the game so fat, I don't think Drecom would ever willingly let us have an easy time with anything. Remember how quick they patched the glitch that allowed you to skip fights, while also leaving unironically-bricked anons on their own for months.

Which Daphne's hair would feel the best to use for a hairjob? Sheli gets minus points because you can't really see your cum marking on her white hair

>>529531992
>Remember how quick they patched the glitch that allowed you to skip fights, while also leaving unironically-bricked anons on their own for months.
ok you have a point right there, but it would be dumb to not allow people to use collab units that spend a fuck load of money on to be unusable in all proving grounds.

>>529532491
Arboris

>>529531992
Anon they are mages, their class says mage, and they can use mage exclusive spells, drecom would have to intentionally go out of their way to brick them and to piss off the whales, the only group they care for.

>>529532491
>>529533181
this

>>529533181
In Drecom’s case I think it would be less intentional and more a direct incompetency of of “mage’s class table ID is X, and theirs is Y and Z, and only adding X because they forgot Y and Z existed”.

I regret skipping the dark magician elf
I regret skipping the wet barbarian warrior
I regret skipping red brick

>>529534681
i dont

>>529524862
I'm too scared to try the xp one, can you cancel it at least ?

>>529534534
That literally can't be the case because of the previously stated "They can use mage exclusive skills", they are as right now for all intents and purposes mages.

i skipped

When I use a limited character I feel disgust, even if it's garbage like Livana.

>>529535698
Why?

>>529534998
TOTAL AND COMPLETE FISHMEN DEATH.
HATE FISHMEN.
DECAPITATE FISHMEN.
LOCK FISMEN IN A CAGE WITH A VORPAL BUNNY.
GLUE ATTACK FISHMEN EYES.
PRECISION STRIKE INTO FISHMEN REPRODUCTIVE ORGANS.
STOMP FISHMEN EGGS WITH STEEL HEAVY ARMOR BOOTS.
MILLIONS MUST DIE SECRET ART: LAFOROS IN A GROUP OF FISHMEN BABIES.
THROW FISHMEN CORPSES INTO A GRINDER AND USE THE PRODUCTS AS FERTILIZER FOR UGLY BASTARD ENTS.
NAIL FISHMEN TO A CROSS AND LABADIOS.
ORDER ALICE (EVIL) TO INVERSE CRUCIFY FILTHY FISHMEN AND SACRIFICE THEM TO AGORA.
DEFECATE AND URINATE IN FISHMEN MOUTHS.
ERLIK INTO FISHMEN ASSHOLES.
HALITO IN FISHMEN MOUTHS.
FERU FISHMEN LIMBS.
MIGAL TO FISHMEN HEADS UNTIL THEY ARE BLOWN OFF.
PUT FISHMEN IN THE ROW AND CAST MAHALITO.
BLOW FISHMEN BRAINS OPEN WITH FOROS.
BURN FISHMEN ALIVE WITH LAHALITO.
CAST KANTIOS INTO A GROUP OF FISHMEN TO WATCH THEM KILL EACH OTHER.
STIR FRY FISHMEN LIMBS IN A WOK AND FORCE THEM TO EAT IT.
ORDER GERULF TO ACTIVATE A VOLCANO AND TOSS FISHMEN INTO IT.
BOIL FISHMEN IN A PAN AND FORCE FISHMEN TO DRINK IT WHILE STILL HOT.
LOCK FISHMEN INSIDE A BRAZEN BULL.
POISON ATTACK LV3 INTO FISHMEN WATER AND FOOD.
ORDER DANIEL TO TWIST FISHMEN HEADS OFF.
HEAVY ATTACK LV5 FISHMEN IN HALF.
USE FISHMEN BONES AS BONE BROTH FOR SOUP AND MIX IT IN ARENA FOOD.
CURB STOMP PREGNANT FISHMEN.
PLAY SPORTS LIKE FOOTBALL, SOCCER AND BASEBALL WITH FISHMEN SKULLS.
CAST BATILGREF AND TRAP FISHMEN IN QUICKSAND.
DISSECT FISHMEN TO STUDY HOW TO KILL MORE FISHMEN.
EQUIP LIGHT SANDALS AND PRACTICE PENALTY KICKS WITH FISHMEN HEADS.
CREMATE FISHMEN IN THE BLACKSMITH FURNACE.
THROW FISHMEN INSIDE A LIVING GIANT SLIME AND WATCH THE ACID DECOMPOSE THEM TO DEATH.
LOBOTOMIZE FISHMEN.
BALAFEOS AND MORLIS FISHMEN EGGS SO THEY ARE BORN WITH DISABILITIES AND AUTISM.
CURSE FISHMEN WITH A SPELL.
USING THE CURSED WHEEL TO GO BACK IN THE PAST TO KILL MORE FISHMEN.

>>529536138
This but for ninjers

>revenue is heavily in the red
Let hope this lit a fire under their ass to release actual content soon.

>>529537360
Are you John Drecom with access to their internal revenue reports?????

What's the stat difference between wanderer and mage MC?

How does levelling MC mage even work?
Is it important to level in the correct element?
Can you get all elemental spells by changing element?
Do you lose spells when changing element?
Can I brick myself?
Will I brick myself?

>>529538335
I harass the CEO's twitter

>>529539449
>How does levelling MC mage even work?
Like normal
>Is it important to level in the correct element?
No
>Can you get all elemental spells by changing element?
You only get cones (no/neutral element)
>Do you lose spells when changing element?
No
>Can I brick myself?
Yes
>Will I brick myself?
You already did

>>529498834
>A new adventurer, maybe a new class, old class change for Rinne, and another overturned proving grounds people will just cheat through.

Where's the content?

>>529541394
You just posted it.

>>529541394
>another overturned proving grounds people will just cheat through
The boss on Hard was literally flowchart tier, and all you needed was two fighters with FPS with a third to toss items at them who didn’t even need to be 60.

>Wizardry went from making 3 million a month with the whole thread celebrating to less than 1 mil and now everyone claims the numbers are fake

What 6 months of no content does to a motherfucker.

>>529541394
>people will just cheat through
Don't do that, Daddy Drecom is punishing cheaters now.

literally only one retard mentioned revenue and it was probably (You)

>>529542305
*Skip*

>>529543171
>now everyone claims the numbers are fake
The numbers on this SEAgroid Reddit chart have literally always been fake.
The primary source is SensorTower’s “dude trust us, we plugged it into our super duper secret proprietary algorithms to align at these numbers, no you can’t see our work”, and every time you compare it to the publically available investors reports for companies like Cyberagent and their subsidiaries it’s never even close to accurate.

>>529543794
Oh no I agree. You should use the chart as a trendline rather than for hard numbers.

Still I just find it funny how we were sucking off John Drecom because they made 3 million that one time while ignoring the numbers were also fake.

god i hope drecom goes under

Literally no one said any of that

I blame Sheli the prostitute witch

>>529543171
>>529543794
>>529543991
All me

>>529543171
you can only go so far with hunting the white whales

Unfortunately drecom probably made more money from Variants than they did in the past 10 years. We can only hope this game EoSes to teach them a lesson.

>>529544474
Hunting white whales is fine. But as with any gacha kusoge, you need a healthy population of f2p/dolphins for them to bully. When the f2p quit and the whales realize they're just competing with each other to see who's D9 tzalikman can clear the tower faster, they get bored and quit.

>>529544562
but the content...

>>529544721
exactly
and here there is no reason to be small spender

>>529544562
What lesson anon they already sold this game and lent the IP out to the Chinks. Like if anything Drecom is slowly pulling out after making a profit.

>>529545867
Pump and Dump'd...

>>529545867
Wait this game is made by the chinks?

>>529546776
No.
They licensed the game out to a chink company for them to release a mainland chink version, and have started a program for people to license Wizardry’s name and IP for stuff relating to the IP’s 40th anniversary.

big tiddy samurai content will save us...

>>529547664
It will. 2-3 weeks. Believe in big tiddy dark elf samurai.

>>529547027
Grim

>>529544721
Nah it is not fine, hunting the white whale is suicide, just as it was for ahab, you can hunt for regular whales tho.

>>529547913
Licensing it out is pretty standard for any game that sees success since non-chinks can’t publish in mainland China.

>>529549203
I'm pretty sure Nasu didn't license out Fate to China.

>>529551871
Huh I wonder if the chinks will cancel the license soon then.

>>529551871
>bilibili

>>529553097
CN version is censored a bunch but still seems to be going strong, about around a year behind JP.

someone,
be a pillow for me

>>529553723
Only if you’re a cute elf.
Post ears.

Anyone wanna, uh, talk about...boys?

>>529554130
Gandolfo is really strong and handsome

I will destroy all the content and save Wizardry

>>529549203
especially when you have to change a bunch of shit like chink wizardry will probably have to

>Magical Being and Magical Beast are two different categories of monsters
>And I didn't notice until now
I've spent roughly 3 hours slaying sahugins...
Why didn't I notice sooner...

Now where do I best grind magical beings?
I really want to do the Treasure Trao Disarm Skill Training.

>>529555256
First two floors of the ninja caves

>>529547828
>Believe in big tiddy dark elf samurai.
T-two more weeks. My patiences will be reward in two weeks... *fadeds into dust*

>>529555889
Plot of the Sand Shadow?

>>529556214
You have to beat the second dungeon to access that quest, don't you?

Haha, lol

Can't wait for the next one

>>529556832
does that mean patch tomorrow pausechamp?

>>529557609
another kill 300 pass WHOOOOOO

>>529555256
Look at the bright side: you have done the world the favour of massacring of dozens of filthy fishmen!

uhoh

Wait. Why can't I enter the Necromancer cave anymore? Wasn't that meant to be a forever-quest?
I can still do the Fordraig quest at least.

>>529559380
Did you wheel it back to start?

>>529559380
Did you get trolled by the Wheel tutorial that makes you reset it?

>>529559932
>>529559590
Probably?

>>529559091 (Me)
yeah I got fucked but I hit like a truck
I managed to hit her for like 2-3k total
does anyone know what's her approx. max HP?

>>529561013
11500

>>529561013
A lot more than you would expect

Never forget

>>529562209
our HERO

>>529555903
>inb4 big tiddy dark fairy samurai

>>529562209
Translate it weebs.

>>529564131
nips cheated the Castle and made so everyone received the full rewards just for participating

>>529564131
It says something like "please fix the castle stupid ninjers"

>>529564131
It says 城塞バグ修正お願いします
(fix the fortress bug please)

Which is weird, actually, because 城塞 refers to Guarda, the castle is 古城.

Should I finish the kill 300 requests?

>>529577458
Yes.

>>529577458
I mean if you think you can do it within 16 hours
new sand shadow cave is pretty good for insects

Do you guys find sentries frozen in time often? Most of the time i need to restart the game to make them roam again. I would like to say I'm surprised such a bug is still around months after the abyss launched but hey, par for the course I guess

>>529577936
I've had it happen a few times.

>>529480394
>Anons aren't making the math the right way. They are forgetting than from 40 to 50 and 50 to 60 you are going to have a penalty for gained XP for way, wayyyyyy longer than normal characters, making that final lap extra EXTRA tedious.
>

>have two lv60 mages
>MC mage is like, 10
I wonder if I can get away with wanderer, but I need to level him up more too...

Rinne class change is Mage
Kman is Knight
The ALT unit is Alice.

>>529582473
If I had to take a guess, the enemies are going to be highly phys resistant
maybe get the early mage lvls for options at least
>>529582863
>Rinne class change is Mage
that would be really funny for the amount of salt it would make

>>529582473
good thing about magic is you only need like 350 mag power for lvl 3 or less spells. completely doable at 10 but obviously get as high as possible for more hp

>>529556724
We didn't even make the list :(
Time to release the fairy so we can get back on it

>>529581162
>no access to dispatches
>can't keep level low by grade capping
Congratulations, all your hard work has been rewarded with even more hard work.

>>529585465
>can't keep level low by grade capping
you can keep level low, why do you think I have 1.5m~ over xp to next level in that pic

>Chloe is ESL
nooooo

>>529586616
most eloquent beastman

>>529585465
You can switch class to not level up in the class you are grinding. Still, this is a big fucking problem when you are lv60 ninjer and the cap is 70. Then you have to grind another 10m exp without help at all.

>>529587726
Which is why you only level to 35 for the skills, and then use class swapping to keep it there until they add Ninja trials.

>>529582863
>>529583531
>he doesn't want another evil elf mage

>>529590753
>unique skill scales with atk
>adj buff to surety
>disc does surety / acc
>maybe a few skills with niche use but with elfs low sp
I don't run Rinne, but I think the salt would be funny
really they should just give her thief and then expect people to swap her back

sorry gwos im replaying eov to feel like i got content... go on without me....

This is quite the disorganized party! Whose idea was this?

>>529593552
Still the best town theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PtZwCnPZY4

Quit about a month ago. Got tired of the grind and didn't want to swipe.
Still love the core of this game. Hope it's been treating you well, good gwos.

>>529594954
>Hope it's been treating you well
Haha... yeah... we're drowning in the content... haha...

so did anyone ever sacrifice a precious party member as a meme or something or did everyone just use a lvl 20 nobody

>>529595525
I was just going to use Kiriha. He's a ninja, he should expect it.

>>529595065
I mean I don't think the drought is that bad
they gave us yek quest and also ninjer cave. It's not a lot but it's so so. Newmasks like me also getting a bunch of the old content back to play too

haze junk drought...

>>529601201
working as intended, gotta do something while lvling ninja
I seem to get haze junk in bursts
today I only got ninja katanas / trash armor
but I have gotten
2x covert kunai and
2x phantom kunai so far
I might use the phantoms on kiriha for my auto team
at least the other gear drops have decent rates
replaced several pieces across my team with 4* steel

beat guarda first time today
it really was kinda bullshitty. Late floor sentries suck, doll sucked, the double mandatory eye fight into gwo was also really really annoying even if it's once

Does Haze Junk drop from any enemy type/floor in the ninja cave or is it exclusively from ninjas and possibly only floor 2/3 ones?

>>529602090
i've found them in floor one both from enemy chests and ground chests

>>529602090
I've been getting it, RARELY from farming f1
no ninjas and the fights can be autod
get from 1.8k to 9k per fight 5x per run

Looks like it's time for the apothecary.

can't wait for thieves trial
>need to open 10 chests with 1 boss chest at the end
>master difficulty needs 180+ detect and 150 disarm or pure skill

gonna be a ninjer
do I need to start the trial with the sacrifice or can I clear the first part of the trial then come back with the sacrifice. I already got the box retrieval done to be clear

>>529610964
You can do the first part of the trial with your full team. At the end he'll take you outside of the dungeon and tell you to come back with only one other.

>>529614331
thanks, I'm still recovering fort and flames from slamming my face against guarda gwo and the ninja team boss so I'll do it later

>have Kinapic on both rows
>this still happens
what a nigger fight

>>529618724
Kinapic is an anagram for 'I panick', it actually makes it easier for mental debuffs to hit you.

>>529618724
Ailment fights are cancer like that.
Praying to RNG is the best way to get by them.

>>529618724
Pretty sure there's no point in trying to keep Kinapic up

I thought the doll fight was bad
When I met the gamblers.

looks like they are having a lot of fun

Fighter Proving Grounds tomorrow.

>>529632931
>Adjusted content
>Now you need 6 lvl 60 fighters to clear

>>529632931
5 weeks in July, so we have
>Fighter Proving Grounds patch
Content left:
>Kiriha/Rinne class change patch
>Samurai banner patch
>Mage Proving Grounds patch
>New alter banner patch
Seemingly, if they spread content thin, it can be released each week

>beat heat haze
>"it was but an empty husk"
kino...

>>529618724
kinapic+latumofis lvl 2 did nothing against the ninja confuse either, it's a fucking joke that I keep falling for.

huh so ninja dual wield is actually kinda brick with follow up attack? the 1 extra hit to critical isn't worth losing 50% damage since it adds to the left hand hit and not the right?

>>529638084
>so ninja is actually kinda brick
Yes

ninja is good for attack buff

>>529638084
Follow-up attack can't be relied on. Even level 7 follow-up attack with 60 luck (which you should have as MC, give or take a few points) is going to be a 50% follow-up rate.

Dual wield, however, is always on. So that's what you build around. Follow-up is just bonus. It's less bonus on Ninja, but still bonus.

>>529639420
that's true, but most importantly I just think ninja is fun

>>529638084
I just tested and i'm not quite certain but it does 6 attacks with follow up attack anon. It just that the left hand 6th attack is lumped into the 5th right hand one (i think) since i can still see the damage proc for both hands

Deadass just considering dismissing my entire adventurer log to get everyone to level 60. I only need 326 tags and I have 237 adventurers logged.

>>529639696
That's amazing if true. I might have missed because I'm eternally on 2x speed. Gonna go stack atk on mask now
I suppose weapon proficiency>atk up (mind)?

I'm missing 1 thing for doll
it's so close I can almost taste it
can she have openings?

>>529643657
don't think so. I think I read somewhere that her normal attacks are ranged, so it doesn't count as openings. Fishing for them are unreliable with all the confusion too.

>>529643657
I doubt it. Bring clarissa and a neutral team, equip everyone with a circlet, and keep Kinapic up. You CAN resist her bullshit but it takes everything you can access.

>ambushed by double doll + slime enemy
>they curse me and then flee
>quit and reengage with initiative
heh... nothing personal, I need that exp

bros
i got two rinnes in my second last 10 roll, i'm now at 89
is it worth going for 100?
7 point int boon, 8 point str boon, both 100 fort.
also skill or disc

>>529646251
str boon no doubt, personally I'd disc. The skill is fine as trash clearer at lvl 1.
You can wait for tomorrow to see what's the new banner before you commit. I'm sitting on 44 myself. Actually, since banner is 21 days away, might as well wait 2 weeks to see if Samurai's anything good too.

>>529646251
>is it worth going for 100?
Yes retardgwo...
>>529646251
>also skill or disc
Wait for her reclass first

>>529646609
i have a spark left either way but if it's samurai -> fairy and the samurai is a cute girl i'm fucked
maybe it'll be a stinky beastfolk and i can skip

inb4 samurai
>wandering ronin princess: Ranavairre

>>529645378
>bring clarissa
a lvl20 knight?

Gerluf and Abe would be the best Samurai.

>>529647713
2 more weeks. Trust.

Bibiana Ninja CC trust

>>529640713
Please don't
No need to rush lvl 60 on most classes plus their skill inheritance is useful

Ninja don't even need to get to lvl 60, this is just gonna be my backburner project. They already feel complete at lvl 40 or something

is this a game you can play at your own pace or are you screwed if you miss too many logins? as in unable to do events or missing too much gem income

I love this game and i don't mean to doompost but in the event that the game EoSes, what's the one game that is the closest to this? I absolutely LOVE the grimdark setting AND the first person POV especially. What are some other dungeon crawler game with features similar to WizDaf?

>>529652102
The gem income is rather low outside of the weekly, events and gifts from the devs
No need to login everyday

>>529647098
>not having all characters with exp capped

>>529652102
You can collect supplies from guild from 7 days back which is nice. all you lose in between is 6 dailies which equal to 40×6 guild tokens and 30x6 gems(daily and jeweler).

>>529652279
None. Nothing with similar level of audio visuals like Daphne.
Nothing.

>>529653430
man.....

>>529652279
There's none, that's why we are still here despite everything.

>>529654546
That ps2 wizardry game maybe the closest but it's outdated and cheap.

Also beat gamblers. The key was bringing Knight with heavy armor and do knight defence and line cover. It go smoothly. With 2 Knights it would be probably easier.

>>529652102
You can just treat it as sp game. Honestly you can play it and beat it as f2p just sliver and having more fun.

ninjer mc is so fucking good. Not having fps is a shame but the feedback from a dual wield surety crit FuA normal attack melted my brain. Doing the same amount of damage per hit as fighter if the atk buff is up too... And I'm not even lvl 30

>>529657869
I’d do it if it weren’t for the insane EXP reqs.

>>529657869
>Crit
>Everyone on the party starts glazing you
>Sheli "I didn't knew you were so... virile"
alrighty then

>>529657869
shan't be killing my allies, sorry

>>529658434
Really activate my neurons

>>529652279
Some H Games come close.

>>529658434
is this real?
This bitch is just fucking asking for it

>TOTAL
>MOSQUITO
>DEATH

John Drecom released Sheli to appease SEA incels.

>>529658434
Proofs?????

yo i'm feeling SEA as fuck

>>529658531
>he doesn't have knight leveled for the instant 1 turn charm/confusion clear on top of resistance bulk

>>529660476
Just change MC to ninja and crit some fools, and watch everyone on your party be all "wow ur so cool"
You do have a sheli to glaze you, right anon?

>>529661004
You can do that with priest too. Marein triggers the instant kill dialogues.

I wish I could keep Ophelia's knight outfit as a fighter.

I fucking mating pressed this little bitch after I changed from thief to fighter
1.5kx2 surety hits go hard

>>529661004
Of course.
I had about 60,000 gems burning a hole in my pocket and my dick assumed direct control and I double sparked her to discipline 5.

fine, FINE, i'll hang out with you...!

Rinne's tits are very distracting

>Another style of adventurer
>Support focused
Hmmmm

>>529665962
that would be cool
>increase all loot/gold dropped
>but basically a brick besides that
another inherit slave like red brick

>>529657869
Same, my MC's having stellar performances considering he's doing as much damage at lv36 with shitty gear as his Fighter build with +20 horny sword. Looking forward to lv50-60, and to kunai build

>>529666592
My MC has 45 sur, and precision strike hits for 1k if both hits proc, i wonder if i can put like 20 more sur and just be the most efficient blender doing 1k dmg per 4 sp

>>529665962
It's Alice with a new exclusive buff skill (doesn't count against buff slots) and discipline that increases support spell strength.

>>529665962
>style of adventurer
That means something like Wana or that new Adam we got, not a brand new character. I assume by 'support' they mean a type of class and Priest is the support class so, as others have noted, that likely means Alice.

>>529669360
That sounds like misdirection from someone with a suspiciously large inventory full of trinkets and baubles.

>>529669598
I paid good blood for those.

>>529669360
I think it could alternatively be a regular adventurer, like Daniel, since he has that Macaldia inherit already, and it has been a while since we got Xmas Flut.

>>529669360
yeah it's probably Alice because her whole shtick is supporting
I wonder if it will be better than regular Alice who is already like the best character in the game

I’ll take a look at the Japanese announcement later to see if it clarifies anything.

>grinding MC mage levels
>catching up on some podcasts
>two hours pass
>notice my max mana is 41
>what
>forgot to swap back to mage after last inn visit

>>529671408
lmao

I'm missing the 3rd mermaid statue
what's up with that?

>>529673956
you need beat secret boss after you get perfect guarda ending and defeat dolls x3 times

>>529673956
nvm the map was just wacky

>>529671408
Relatable.

>>529671408
happened to me but with wanderer and fighter...

>booted from game for update
>no update
Alright.

>die to random encounter
>game returns me to title screen telling me I need to update
>don't actually update anything
>win the fight easily this time due to good RNG
heh nothing personnel drecom, I hacked your system

>Ophelia did Follow Up Attack 4 times in a row
>49 luck, lvl1 FUA

GUESS I'VE GOTTA SHOW MY

what's a good challenge run for this game? generic adventurers only?

Every run is a challenge run if you're not very smart.

>>529687952
only knights

>>529687952
MC only.

FLASH

I wonder how Samurai will function.

>>529696720
melee attacker that use both mp and sp

>>529696720
In old Wizardry samurai was a fighter with weeb equipment, instakill passive and some mage spells.

>>529696720
If they keep the 'also casts spells' idea, I hope it's more like they can infuse their weapon with an element to deal elemental damage instead of just shooting out a fireball.

>>529698668
that would be cool, changing weapon elements

>>529696720
Infuse your weapons with magic with each attack costing mana

>>529702462
>40 mana at max level
>activation costs 10 mana
>each attack costs 8 mana
>lasts 2 turns

>>529702824
>Alice inherit also doesn't work on it

>>529696720
>I wonder how Samurai will function?
Knowing Drecom, it probably won't lol.

Prepare to say goodbye dwigger

>>529687952
Generics seems to still boil down to MC and humanfig just getting PORTO'd and spamming FPS, so it obviously works
I wonder if it would actually be fun, it would suck the soul out of the game not hearing any voicelines but lulu

>>529687952
it won't make much of a challenge, and the lack of voicelines / tavern / campfire interactions makes the party feel soulless
try something else like a duo / trio or only thieves

>>529708756
He can see the evil but can't kill the evil.

I'm lost and stuck withount a hook. You can even say... i'm bricked.

>>529711817
Time to drink the purple juice anon
Just look for a button on the ground

>>529711817
Top right from the poison tile

>>529711817
Imagine how many people bricked in those caves because they couldn't find the hidden passages and had nowhere to ask for help

>>529712876
Years on DRPG training should've taught all the ojisans who play this game to walk into every single wall tile, and examine the walls, ceilings, and floor of every other tile.

>want to lvl ninja
>clock xp per hour
>dont want to put in more than 1hr per day
>run the numbers
looks like I'll be 60 in 2 more weeks, and just in time to wait for more content

>>529718202
Where are you grinding?

>>529718387
sand shadow cave f1, I just go straight for mobs and then reset

i reported the luck proc passives getting stealth buffed bug you are welcomed

Is there a strat to farming ninja junk in heat haze?

just be lucky

>>529722184
Thanks elmon, today the cyanide is on the house

so ninja cucks, did you regret pulling rinne, she got mogged by mc.

>>529723103
no because I pumped her with skill books with art of assassination so she crits a loot. MC is the brute that does 300x3 + 150x3 suretys while she procs crit every half a dozen turns or so even if she does 1 damage where the mc would still do 50
Also 2 ninjers is fun, I gave her macaldia to use on turns where she'd otherwise sit on her ass and do nothing if I don't burn a lot of sp and it's pretty nice

>>529723103
She got mogged by Kiriha day 1 anon, it's nothing new for them

>>529723103
I'm working on ninja MC but I got 2x phantom kunai recently so I'll probably take her off dispatch duty for my auto team

>>529724441
How often do ninjas crit anyway?
Is 3x ninja a good auto team?

Might have just gotten lucky but Savia seems great for this ninja fight, she was dodging the fuck out of their attacks

>>529729881
I used mine for that fight and brought her fort to 10 with one cool trick
kept them off my other guys atleast

>>529730286
Yeah nobody died by the end, only two downs aside from Savia, this was my second time around so I think she was the trick
Knights are good bros

>>529730575
>Knights are good bros
yea I don't think they deserve the bad rep they get around here

>>529643657
Batilgref probably.
Opens up many double turns for your guys and less eva on her end. Whoulsbbe kept at all times.
Also divine punishment scrolls for your mages and healers when they go oom or downtime. Better than a non lvl 3 spell

>>529723103
Rinne saved my ass fighting against that cripple Ted and also murdered the other ninjjers in the boss fight so she was worth it.

If I want to only sign in once a week for the guild tags, what is the quickest strategy to find the weekly bone picker?

>>529735316
spam port until he spawns

>1 shot me 50% of the time on the second turn
>they get 4 turns
>if I kill 1 of them they will just call for reinforcements
what the fuck
this shit is worse than the doll

>>529743923
it's an eva check, it's less rng but also just as bullshitty yes

>>529744058
the problem is having to fight the GWO directly after with 0 resources left

>>529745249
You can unlock the golem mechanic and then wheel back so that you only have to fight 1 sentry instead of 2. Then just bring some mp or sp pots for the gwo. Gwo is fuckass easy compared to doll and sentries ngl, especially with such a FPS heavy comp like yours

>>529746227
only MC has FPS im poor on tags

my content... nyoo...

how much longer till new banner, i need the new character...

>>529746369
Your Lana is a knight too? Grim
Fighter proving grounds soon bro

>>529746592
time to farm then I guess, might be time because I never did and everyone is like at 60 EV lol
what's the best place for armor/spear?

>>529748474
fordy

>>529748550
the labyrinth? not the fortress?

>>529748670
guarda is a pain in the ass to farm, fordraig is mindless
you won't get ebinsteel stuff, but you will get a ton of steel+misc stuff that, with more stars, is gonna be better than ebonsteel 1 star junk you'll probably get

Man, why on earth did they make finding Mauve Shields so difficult? The Cave of Malice had junk that was specifically for getting the Helm of Malice, which was reasonable. I’ve reset the goddamn cave of flowers like 100+ times and this is the only usable Mauve Shield I’ve managed to find.

Well, at least my MC finally hit 60 with thief and I finished the trap disarm quest requirements. Now I can quit farming this shitty dungeon and get back to enjoying the game.

>>529749472
>quit farming
>get back to enjoying the game
does he know bros?

>500 jims instead of 2 master rings
not bad Mr drecom
>can start after beginning abyss
if it isn't cut into difficulties, you're telling me people are gonna be running around with a supa fighter in abyss 2?

>>529749840
>you're telling me people are gonna be running around with a supa fighter in abyss 2?
I had fightah ring going through abyss 2 because I glitched through that shit loool

>>529749605
Joke’s on you, I still haven’t made any Guarda progress yet; that means I have a bounty of meaningful, story-driven content to look forward to! A BOUNTY, I SAY!

>>529749840
It's probably again autobalanced based on account progress

Anti glitching mechanics, you have to kill niggas on the floor aside from the final enemy

Is it a bad idea to train duplicate adventurers (i.e. send them on dispatches)? I have some dupes of Alice and Lana that I don’t plan on doing anything with any time soon, but they have more fortitude than the ones I’ve been using since I started so they might end up having better stats overall when they reach 60. Also, having backups doesn’t seem like such a bad idea even if they eventually end up becoming inherited or something.

>>529750546
First of all, Alice is for Inheriting and Lana is for Disciplining, mostly to themselves, and when you eventually do this you will lose the tags you put into them to level them
Second of all, Dispatching in general is close to useless outside of powerleveling two characters quickly with the Guarda dispatch and having two shitter groups to get ore during events

>45 pulls
>still no Rinne
>380 gems left
It would seem that Mr. John Drecom has decided to punish me for my hubris as an F2P.

>>529750546
>>529751452 (me)
Oh I misread part of that. Fort barely matters (unless you have 80 which is one less rez in combat), and you should be checking if they have Boons or not which is the only case when leveling them and replacing the old ones would be okay, like a SPD Boon on Alice and STR on Lana would be worth. Otherwise its a waste of time and tags

At least now you can buy full shop in proving grounds event
Also if you already got the ring, you need just 300 points to buy all books

>>529751452
>alice is for inheriting
Fair enough. I oughtta inherit her on my Yeka, eh? She’s finally 60 so I’m finna boutta turn her into a priest.

I was thinking about holding into the Lana disciplines for later, assuming that they will eventually do another Wana banner (which I missed out on). I may have misunderstood what other anons were saying in relation to the new Adam banner, but doesn’t merging characters fuck up their disciplines or something like that?

Pls forgive my ignorance anon, I am but a simple man.

>>529752326
wana can't be disciplined with normal lana, only inherited
which isn't bad because high skill lana heals a fuckton

can someone post the rewards? class change scroll available?

>>529753418
Passive atk up x4 not seen on screenshot, no books

>>529753668
nyoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *vanishes*

>>529752326
Wana is, in the long run, useless to non-whales (along with pretty much every other limited that doesn't come with a crazy nuke or passive like Tzalikman and Drigger). Limiteds can only Discipline from more copies of themselves, Merge or not. Meanwhile I'm nearing D6 Lana and I've been bagholding 90k+ gems since launch, if I spent them I'd probably have D9. Unlike other gachas you should treat the Standards as the most powerful characters since realistically you will never take a Limited to even D3

>>529753668
>500 gem reward for being naive enough to get a trash DEF FAS-sink ring
I am salty

>>529754361
it's gems for people who picked up the ring and people who didn't get cucked out of jims
It's good, no?

>>529754260
i see. so merging is ultimately a bad idea unless your standard is already at D9?

>No new banner
I HATE it

>use FPS
>semi-stone
>FPS triggers
>kills the last mob
>ye spirit that defies death
what a classic

>>529754260
>drigger
damn, i wish i'd realized how powerful arboris was back when his banner was live. it was around the time i had just started the game so i didn't know any better kek.

>>529754912
I am saying that they're being rewarded for getting the mediocre overpriced ring, and I am salty for being punished due to skipping it, when I would have taken it if I had known it would result in gemmers

>>529755705
Oh, he just did 4600 damage to my MC
Thankfully, knight passive triggered
What the fuck is this "small adjustment"

>>529754991
No, Merging basically doesn't matter. If you Merge D0 Wana into D9 Lana, you're never going to play her as Wana, and Lana only gets 1 point to ATK DEF etc from the Merge, so it's completely inconsequential and a waste all around. Merge is a completely retarded poorly thought out system.

>>529756056
they should let me molest her in the training room to change outfits

>>529756131
Maybe when they release an Alice alt, ojisan will finally speak up and tell Drecom to revamp Merge completely. No one gives a shit right now because Wana was the first banner so the whales maxed her and never invested into standard Lana Disciplines, and nobody cares about Adam or Flut. It's just going to slide until they bump up against an invested Standard character ojisan actually uses.

>lvl 32 wanderer
>lvl 55 fighter
do I bring wanderer into fighter grounds to grind levels for mage

>getting consistently hit in advanced fighter trial with 159+ EVA
ok I might actually hate Mr drecom

Good thing they didn't nerf the Fey junk from Fighter cave this time, still 20% for 4*.

>>529756575
Just stack def gw-
>crits you for 4600 damage

>>529756575
>360x2 atk
>barely do 200 an auto to a rando encounter
what the fuck

>Just realized I don't have 2 spare fighters
f-fuck, at least it's permanent. I'm more than ready for mage trials I hope

>>529756964
how the fuck do you even play the game...

>>529757237
triple caster backline, knight mask-benis
it's going pretty well desu

fine *nod*
Go away!

>>529756575
>"slight adjustments"
>adds an extra 0 to enemy accuracy

>uses masolotu AND scroll
>still gets hit
ok. . .

>>529757546
>effectively deletes evasion
>defense still shit
>pushes everyone to one-shot as fast as possible
>or inherit every damage reduction passive(eg way of the knight)
sasuga

how do I get enough currency for all the rewards?
can I just spam beginner trial?

>>529757895
Likely it's given one time on completion of the trial
First two give 100 and 150 coins. Last trial should give 350 coins then, but for that you have to complete it

>>529756056
Man, I think I really need to look up how the hell merging works before I can make any sense of it. The way you're describing it is confusing me even more. Not that it's something I have to worry about currently seeing as how I don't have any characters that can perform a merge, but it was a mechanic that always intrigued me and Wana's look is 10,000x better than standard Lana's.

>>529758023
>250 total
>last one is impossible
well thanks drecum im never getting the ring then

>>529756575
time to def, makaltu, and balafeos up buddy

>>529758064
Just do it when we will be lvl100 and future fighter from gacha will just clear enemies in one hit with not!tzalik

>you will have to fight single adventurer in mage trial
Tazilkletgwos...

It's Mage Proving Grounds, not Mage of the Big Black Rod Proving Grounds.

well this is supposed to be "fighter proving grounds" not "1000 evasion proving grounds"

evasionkeks on acceptdeath watch lmao

>new patch just dropped
>general still dead
i have nowhere to return to anyway :(

>>529762852
i'd be fine with a shift in the meta if def was actually good
>>529762917
>the new patch's content is just an old event made permanent
yea no shit, see you guys next week

https://steamcommunity.com/games/2379740/announcements/detail/546739082808527942
>download nprotector uninstaller after uninstalling game
>tell people to download from some random link
I cant see this going over well, but when did anything john drecom did go over well
I wonder if they thought this through

>>529765245
what's this about?

>>529765712
if you wanted or uninstalled wizardry on steam, the anticheat didn't/wouldnt
so you would have to download and run this

>>529765245
Just how it's been for 20 years
If you hate nprotect you hate gaming, simple as

>>529765245
john drecom this wont install another spyware right...

what do with gerulf dupes
does anyone even want his skill

>>529767546
You build a super Gerulf or use him for Iron Tags

>>529712876
>>529711817
this was fucking infuriating. Click the footprints, THEN the button

>>529765245
lol they might be getting ready to upgrade to an anticheat that isn't complete ass, since they can afford it.

anyway, linux doesn't have this problem.

since starting I only get 2 legendaries and both of them were Deb*a
needless to say my MC ate bot of her asses

>>529767546
The inheritance penalty on eruption strike is pretty severe. Inherited and with no hammer it's exactly the same as heavy strike. I think the only ones who could really take advantage of it other than Gerulf himself would be Human-Pri and Asha as priest.

>>529765245
>>529769561
It's just very slow response to release negative reviews about having to manually uninstall rootkit anticheat
It will stay, they will just add uninstaller into game directory

>>529769647
nyooo

>>529767546
there's literally nothing else to so but disc him since he's just a giant atk/sur stacker, or do as the other anon says and get ready to pay for the 32 tag tax when the next grade comes out

what's the fastest way to level 40-60?

make a bot

>>529751587
>pulling on a brick instead of using ninja mc
get fucked, faggot.

>>529765245
>We are currently preparing an update that will remove nProtect when the game is uninstalled.

this would have been a good announcement if they just stopped that sentence early

>>529770531
Your characters? Exp dispatches for a week or so will get them to lvl 60
Yourself? lol lmao even

>>529771279
>>529770531
Just make sure to keep them at iron grade until they have 4m exp or so. The martial training dispatch goes from 120k xp per run to like 30k. Leveling their alt classes suuuuuucks.

>>529771146
they have to if it's on steam apparently.

>>529767546
He is best combat priest. Just discipline him, eventually increase his skill. You can always try to farm him as bondmates or dismiss - legendary adv are worth extra tags big it's kind of waste

>>529745249
>0 resources left
If you get the required EVA for the fight, the only resource you will spend is the unbinding scrolls at the end.

>>529755764
Yeah it's kinda bullshit that 500 gems are just flat out unavailable because you wanted to get more skill exp instead of gambling with a FAS. Guess I'll know to get the Mage Ring for the gems down the line if nothing else.

An adventurer always spawns in the room SW of the Boss door, so you don't have to go far to get that objective. Was pretty easy since I got the same north>east>north layout each time. Just FPS everything to death(except for adventurer, who's weak to stun) since you'll have more SP than the 3-4 regular encounters, 1 adventurer, one boss on that path require.

Vampire SHOULD be: ready 3 FPS>he hits>FPS lands> he kaltus>he hits>ready 3 FPS>he hits, kaltu wears off>FPS lands for the kill if you're 60 with decent gear.

You can buy out the whole shop now.

So, what do I do with the fighter ring, just FAS it before leveling it ?

I took my elf-pri to the ninja trial, but the ninja said I didn't have enough resolve. I selected all the choices to drop him, but I got kicked out. What did I do wrong?

>>529774638
The gems are bait.

I know this seems counterintuitive to how gacha games work, but consider the math here. One pull is 200 gems (technically 182). So you get 2.5 pulls out of those gems for 300 fighter coins. For those 300 gems you can get way more than 2.5 general adventurers worth of skill scrolls, including RARE inherits like way of the warrior.

>>529775652
He was autolocked, you rike?

>>529775615
FAS then change one of the stats to ATK/SUR if you want to.
After that, you can level it up.

>>529775615
FAS(and pray you don't get min rolls, but at least you can use another FAS to reroll if you wish)>Alter defense if you want>enhance(and pray you don't get min rolls again, these you are stuck with)>refine.

DO NOT enhance to 20 first and then FAS(pic related).

>>529775582
I got initiative on the Vampire so my first FPS was free. You can just flee and reengage until you get it.

>>529777363
Unless they changed it from the event I don’t think you can flee though?

>>529775941
I guess I hadn't looked at it from that perspective. Still, it would have been good to have full information ahead of time. 500 gems isn't much, but I'm also not exactly in a hurry to get more Gandalfo bones. So while the 400 Heavy Attack exp is worth more than 2.5 pulls, I don't need it immediately and will probably get more Gandalfos down the line, while gems are always appreciated for getting closer to a spark when you're unlucky if nothing else.

>>529777560
I didn't try to flee the vampire, but I was able to flee the adventurer right after beating the vampire. I'd say give it a go or just RNG it because it makes the fight that much easier.

PSA: The heat haze trial b1f seems really good for EXP farming.
The weak ninjas give ~4.3k exp per ninja and have 800~1k hp so you can kill them in 2~3 La spell. All you need to do is to survive their initial attacks.
The red circled spot has a guaranteed spawn of 2~3 ninjas for a total of 8~12k exp per spawn, better than the usual exp farm spots. You can just kill them, exit, and come back.
Just don't fight the sentries, those ninjas have way more HP but give the same amount of exp.
This does mean you have to reset the quest and fight the ninja rape gang again after you unlock the ninja class though.
Also the loot is pretty much nothing.

So what do I do with the shadow ninja equipment?

Mildly interesting thing about the fighter proving grounds.
Last time around I bought this shitty book from the shop just because i noticed it was the only skill there that was impossible to get by any other means (fighters don't learn it naturally, no one has it as an inherit). This time around it's gone from the shop entirely.
Makes me wonder if it was another case of drecom fucking up and forgetting to delete the data for a skill that got cut earlier in development, like with advanced sneak attack. But this time they just let it be once they realized because no one's gonna care about a few points of DEF anyway.
At the end of the day the skill itself is almost worthless, but still kind of cool if it ends up being the rarest one in the game

Where to find the gamblers for the blackmail quest? I asked in the guarda tavern and went to the capital entrance but nothing is happening

>>529779863
They are at the beginning abyss entrance, so just don't use any harken and just walk in there from the capital

i imagine her just laying and taking it and letting out a weak moan every 10-15 seconds

>>529779832
huh that is interesting.

Also interesting is that the new shop has skill SCROLLS instead of skill BOOKS, so you can't teach them to non fighters. Guess they didn't want people putting Way of the Warrior on Tzalikman like I did.

>>529779832
huh, I didn't even notice that, definitely would've grabbed at least one for the MC for collections sake. Oh well.

>>529780335
I did, walked in from the entrance and nothing's happening

>>529781849
Did you fight the berserker before those guys?

>>529779832
I did think about getting that book just for the uniqueness value. But in the end I decided since I wasn't ever going to be able to level it (outside of wasting generic skill exp lol), I'd rather get something else with my points.

>>529782703
Nevermind figured it out, think the trigger for the convo with Lulu bugged out. Had to post the missing girl request first for Lulu to tell me to head to the capital to find the gamblers

>I don't have a 3rd fighter for the proving grounds
Gerulfo is your time to shine fucker

I honestly have no idea what to do with my Heavy Boots
They all have 3*+ stars and nice blessings but the negative evasion is really hurting them

>>529786978
I have ready to go 2 2/3 ebonsteel heavy pieces for all slots just waiting for a good one with DEF/MDEF stats to show up, i plan on making a giga knight eventually.

>>529775941
That's the wrong way to look at gems. Gems are more pulls towards a broken Limited which is always superior to Skill scrolls, I have 400 of the bozos you pull along the way sitting around next to my pile of 130 bones waiting to roll for SR Samurai so they don't matter. I only bought more skills because I farmed better rings. Also I'm pretty sure you could get the Ring AND WotW

>>529786578
Gerulf is great fighter.

>>529788039
How much fighter coins you can farm?

>>529788436
It's 600 again, but this time that's enough to buy out the whole shop.

>>529786978
Good for you, evasion means nothing now.

I give up on Kunais this meme weapon is so miserable to farm, backline Rinne will be scrapped and she will be on dispatch duty forever.

what are the max rolls for FASing the ring? want to know what I should be trying for on the atk stats or whats just way lower than a max roll before I replace the def and level it.

>>529789775
What about ring?

>>529776629
>>529777242
Thx gwos

>>529797554
The need to drop the autistic obsession with making getting them like pulling teeth.

>>529803116
Easiest fix is to just make the sand cave junk drop only ninja equipment. You'd still have to grind duplicates, ebonsteel-tier gear and the weapons themselves but it's much better than the current shitty junk.
Sadly the Japs seem to want to make the advanced classes as unappealing as possible

>>529806718
I’ve seen a decent handful of nips complaining.

>>529775582
That can't be, I landed more than 6 FPS and he was still standing. Maybe they buffed his hp ?

>>529797554
Don't lose hope, ninjas can be great evasion tanks in your party!

>fight vampire
>half of his hits get dodged
>kill him in 9 FPSs (some hit during KALTU)
Easy

Samurai will be DEF-focused and take the place of the NIN-BRICK in the designated "well, I guess I don't really need THREE fighters" party slot

>>529816015
How much are you hitting for with your FPS ? I swear the fucker refuses to die on my end

>>529816527
Defend after he does kaltu and you should be able to get an opening.

>>529816527
I don't know but I just have +20 horny swords
I didn't even defend and don't even have very high evasion but was still evading stuff, maybe I'm just lucky but this felt quite easy

You rike? Big value gaijin, please buy

>>529820913
oh wow, that's scummy

>>529821134
The scummy part comes later, when they will shadownerf extraction rates just to sell the pass

>>529820913
What a steal

>>529820913
We genuinely need another dev to save this genre. Shit like this shows that jewcom have no intention of fixing so much stuff

>>529820913
>>529821134
>>529821508
>>529821889
Elaborate. What is so bad

>>529822594
>Make extraction rates shit
>Offer a way to fix them with real money
You have to pay to fix a problem they themselves made anon, one more of many hostile design choices in this game.

>>529821325
what if they already did...

>>529821325
If they do, everyone will notice since the sample size is so large.
Not that i think it will stop them from doing it

>>529824190
even so they know they can get away with it seeing how nips will spend as long as they release a meta adventurer even after getting fucked by drecom in the ass over and over

Since they are willing to offer this kind of MTX, maybe the adventurer that gives more loot isn't so farfetched.

>>529820913
What's so good about this? I already have enough stones just don't have the gear to use them on

>>529775582
adventurer doesn't always spawn in that room by the boss. he did on the first 2 trials but not the third. i had to walk all the way to the fountain for onr because i know theres always 2 adventurer fights there.

relationship update that can in SEX but you gotta buy a pass, you buying? Be honest

>>529826037
I would gladly buy Bibiana's Ninja cc

>the rewards are all skill upgrade scrolls instead of regular scrolls
if these fuckers deny me wotm on my tzalikman im gonna be PISSED

>>529824746
Heh. I do not have stones nor gear. Like what the fuck are enon steel drops. Just fucking awful.

>>529826037
No. It's better this way.

what if they release the 4th abyss in december to coincide with the theme of the dungeon...

>>529829735
You mean Santa is the 4th abyss' gwo?

>>529820913
Can you forge a FAS from shards?
How much is it?

>>529831146
Not gonna like bro, I would shit my pants if throughout the entire abyss there is a chance for Santa GWO to stalk you on each floor while his laugh and bell jingling slowly gets louder and louder each step you take...

Soon...

>>529817521
Same here, after like 9 FPS landing the vampire just doesn't die. Quite a bother since I'm low on potions

here's your gwo bwo

Damn, the minotaur just get absolutely fucked by dissipation

>>529832909
Are you lv60 on everyone? I have pretty decent gear aside from the swords so maybe my FPS are just doing that much more damage
People were also talking about autos doing almost no damage to normal mobs but I could auto them all, not like I needed to since I had SP left over

>>529799816
Stat range seems to be from 12-19 on the flat stats after FAS but before enhancement/refine.

>repeat the first trial like 7 fucking times becuase there's a new rule that you have to kill the adventurer guarding the fountain.
Gay ass shit

>>529835828
the random encounter minotaur is the only one with insane defense I think.

>>529835828
Yup, with horny swords and good gear. Doing like 2x640 on every FPS which is why I find it weird

Does the horny sword do more damage with characters like Abe that already have magical beasts damage amplification?

>>529837765
yes it stacks.

>Go to advanced fighter trial
>Everyone squeaky clean
>Ambushes from enemies spawning from walls every corner
Why

>>529837320
I know my Abenius opener was doing like 5-10 damage but autos were doing at least 100 even to the minotaur, I know I finished him off with autos
Maybe I'm just remembering wrong but I rushed through the advanced one like it was nothing, hoping mage trial is also not too bad

>>529835828
>>529837527
It should also be noted that the vampire randomly does his bat attack for 1.1k, and regular attacks that rape masketta for 600+ dmg

>>529838276
>and regular attacks that rape masketta for 600+ dmg
His normal swipe attack? it was doing like 200-300 to everyone and my guys kept dodging it
Did I fight a different version of advanced trial? I wonder if it gets harder depending on certain checks like true guarda or something

>>529838459
The trial gimmick is that enemies damage start small and ramp up every turn, so if you take too long you will start getting hit by 2k bats and shit.

Where's the other trials? I already turned in the quest and did trial like 4 times.

>>529838805
Go get the new quest in the capital

>>529838276
>>529838459
All the fights get harder the longer they go on, and the vampire does his full heal bat hell move when he hits 20% HP.

>>529838908
Oh right, so that's why

>>529820913
Still not as bad as Dragon Quest Tact slowing down attack animation speed and adding a 3x speed setting you had to pay for.

Hell yeah, thanks login bone.

>>529838276
lmao the vampire does literally 2 damage on the first turn then gigaramps afterwards
>>529838459
>>my guys kept dodging
how much Eva do you have, cuz my team(outside of my level 30 gandalfo) each had like 155+ Eva and had masolotu up, but were getting consistently hit, even in normal fights
I also have completed true end guarda so you might be onto something there

>>529841758
Between 120-150 atm
Felt like half of his autos were dodged

>>529454691
It keeps happening

>evasionkeks getting DESTROYED every update
serves you right for cheesing the game

>>529843101
>stacks even more evasion
Heh, nothing personnel, drecom

>>529843101
I mean it was going to happen eventually. There's no way Drecom let's you evade everything till EoS because they don't get any money out of it.

>>529843101
>Farmable light armor with less def but bonus evasion
I blame Drecom

>>529844725
i mean they could introduce more enemies with magic or high acc skills instead of just saying "fuck you for building the only useful defensive stat"

>>529848948
>Only useful defensive stat
bwo your 800 DEF

>>529849232
150 damage instead of 200 we're so back gwos

>>529843101
I just use way of the knight + sanctuary's blessing on my crew
stack attack and call it a day

>>529848889
So glad I didn't farm le brick cave for the armor right before evasion's downfall

>>529849441
so back, gwo

Should I roll?

Yes

>>529856692
>>529857124

>>529857779
Lucky rare asha

>>529856692
I would at the least wait until you see if the next banner is the promised new class

>>529858235
Yes, I can't be too upset with that.
But I can feel Emil laughing at me so that's all for now.

lmao no hat

I bet Lulunarde has a hairy asshole

I love Yek
she's so pretty. However she might be the first unit I bench for newer adventurers since I got sheli and mage alice

>>529870641
I like her but I ended up benching her for Asha after getting a round trip + disc
i've been saving to see what the new class banner is but if its not hype Im gonna keep my 2 leg 3 reg

>>529870641
reminder that she's used goods

>>529870374
epic

>>529870895
I right handed her hymen

my anime waifu had sex with her husband, it's over
jakarta bros, im going to kill myself

Finally done with the stupid vampire after losing 3 flames. Had to switch Lana's sword into a spare Axe held by Abe, 3 FPS, Armor break 3 when he Kaltus, Warrior's battle cry on everyone and pray that the 3 next FPS lands.

don't care didn't ask

>>529877582
your equipment must be trashslop. all i did was fpsx3, defendx3, fpsx3 and won. take this as a sign to go back to the ship/abyss 3 and grind more shit.

>>529878810
>ship/abyss 3 and grind more shit.
lets start correcting posts
sand shadow cave is the new farm for gear
you can get plenty of 4* if you aren't going for ninja shit

>>529879381
NTA but how hard is it to unlock that farm?
I just finished abyss 3 bad ending

>>529880031
ive done true ending but the guide claims any is enough
you only need f1 and the trash is weaker than bicken / guarda fights
havent seen any ninjas on f1 yet

Finishing Guarda is required only for ninja proving grounds.

>>529879381
>sand shadow cave is the new farm for gear
way worse to auto through though no?

>>529881412
I was hesitant at first but 2 bunny / scorp is the only pack that can do dmg and it gets healed back
by lana over the next few
I've had 1 death from a bunny ambush over 5hrs, ill take those odds

>>529881772
do you use the b1f-b3f route or b1f only?

>>529883340
has someone posted a route?
I do 2 groups on right 3 on left then reset
b1f only
no traps, no ninjas
I've seen sand shadow fey periodically, and heat haze junk / heat haze commonplace junk
are rates better at lower floors? idk

Did I get decent rolls?

den of light SUCKS