Thread 529495795

We Outa Sanses Edition

Previous store where sanses are sold: >>529476932

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I'm rapidly discovering a deeply held affection for skinny girls in long skirts with just the most pure innocent mannerisms.
It would help if she didn't cream her panties at the sight of a purple lizard, but hey, details.

GOD TOOK THE WRONG DAUGHTER

FIRST

THEY WILL ALL BECOME PLAYABLE PARTY MEMBERS AND JOIN THE FUN GANG

A thread. A special thread for Krusie.

noelle twerkin

>>529495964
heh...

>>529495957
>beating
She chases Noelle with her katana, while yelling incoherent japanese.

Third(ish) for The Third Sanctuary

Does Kris know its a videogame or just that some heartshapedobject is hijacking his life

>>529495996
reminds me of the character icons in Sly Cooper.

Why does autism cause people to get really attached to anthropomorphic characters?

>>529496146
Huh, they really do now that you mention it. Wonder if that was a direct inspiration when Toby was designing the battle HUD.

>>529496131
It seems like only Jevil and Gaster know. Maybe also Ralsei.

>>529496131
Related question, does Kris know about resets?

>>529496131
It's probably like Flowey. He knows of the world's mechanics, but the unspoken rules of the narrative will prevent him from realizing it's a videogame.

>>529495418
good advice, i won't get much chance to practice until I get to voice another friends playthrough, this one just got past the knight
>>529495738
You flatter me anon
I think I already read his best line thoughbeit

>>529496232
No

>>529496131
I think Kris understands that the heartshapedobject is just an avatar for a being of a higher dimension of reality, one that thinks of all this as just a game. but they don't know its literally a videogame with code and shit.

>>529496185
Safe platonic

Defying fate itself to protect Asgore's smile, beating the everloving shit out of the Roaring Knight before it gets anywhere near Asgore, proving Asgore right about dark worlds and December

>>529496185
It's the other way around, normiebrain is too weirded out by a character being anthropomorphic to get attached.

>>529495953
>It's not a pacifist soul it's just a soul, he might not be able to hear us. We also can't really talk directly to him.
Pacifist route soul does different things and makes different choices. Doesn't act evil. You just want to attribute all the potential evil it can do to it to justify your hateboner.
>I have reading comprehension.
No, you don't. Otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation.
>If he really was pure evil
Never said he was. Just said he was an evil dick who deserves to lose everything because of the evil things he's done.
>There is important information there to view for all routes and you might have to do it to actually save everyone to a point.
No you just wanna point and feel justified to judge me.
>Lmao crazy people tend to think everybody else is crazy, maybe read the context clues instead of flying off the handle because Kris punched you once you big baby.
At minimum he deserves to suffer everything the soul has to but you'd call it unfair to beat him with a hockey stick, lock him in a cage, throw things at him, throw him around, make him fight a titan, and generally abuse him.

Stop pretending you have morals when you just have Kris' dick in your mouth. Kris is an evil guy and deserves to lose.

Sometimes when I visit these threads I wonder why I don't self-insert the way other people do. Why I don't want to "be with" a character as much as I want that character to be with someone else.

Then I remember it's because I'm actually aware of my mental illness and safely separate fiction and reality unlike the majority of avid posters on any social media.

>>529495996
just realized ralsei is the only one that has eyes in the battle hud

>>529496220
Ralsei 100% knows.
>Press the boxes onto the switches with Z!
>(Wait, who the hell is Z?)

BANG BANG
>CAM ON KRIS
BANG BANG
>PLAY SAM FACKIN ZALDAH
BANG BANG

>>529496548
>YOU. I CHOOSE YOU TO BECOME SCHIZO BOSS NUMBER 6

>>529496529
It has something to do with that early ch1 sign dialogue that says something like "your eyes must be shut to see the way forward in this world"
Dark worlds are when you take away the light that isn't there, so Lightners close their eyes. Ralsei is native to the dark world though so his eyes are open to "see"

>>529496539
i wanna do a rerun of chapter 3 to make them all wear ribbons. please tell me that's possible.

>>529496232
It doesn't seem like they remember you're Snowgraves but they had a savefile at the start so they might be aware of the general concept

>>529496548
>ZALDAH
its Brandish

>>529496409
>WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE GONNA EQUIP THE THORNRING ON ME? WHAT'S THAT? YOU'RE GONNA COMMAND ME TO PROCEED TO THE KEK CHAIR SO I GET A FULL VIEW OF YOU IMPREGNATING SUSIE? I WILL BE FORCED TO WATCH AS YOU CLAIM THE LOVE OF MY LIFE? WHAT? YOU'RE REPLACING MY N-ACTION WITH "CHEER KRIS ON" AND YOU'LL KEEP PICKING THAT OPTION EVERY TWO MINUTES WHILE DOING IT IN FRONT OF ME? WHAT CAN I SAY BUT.... YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>529495996
>we'll help our classmates with their issues in a dark world adventure every chapter!
I'm so glad the game didnt become Persona 4 like many people wanted it to be

bots we should make AI deltarune infinity a real thing

I AM GOING TO FIND FRIEND

WHATEVER IT IS

AND FUCK IT

AND THAT IS A PROMISE

SINCERELY
SOUL

>>529496038
Would one have to hold the kiss long enough for the cereal to get a little soggy? No one likes eating raw cereal

https://youtu.be/ypzcIl-e5WE?t=2381
headcanon motormouth mike voice

Where did Tan Dess thing come from?

>>529496232
Kris was probably on newgame+ when we ovverode their save

>>529496687
chapter 5 will have multiple dark worlds. we need a bigger team to close them all asap.

The last game you played is now merged with Deltarune. How is it now?

>>529496691
I, your humble servant, will fuck you to the utmost...

>>529496687
I get what you mean but i still think it'd be interesting to explore the acquaintanceship between Kris and Catti and the demon summoning stuff.

>>529496778
That doesn't really make sense when the SOUL is the only one that can close dark fountains

>>529496409
>>529496680
>>529496746
Noelle...

>>529496539
Wait... Susie is supposed to wear ribbons... (You) made her wear one... The events in the game mirror the reality(weird path)... The prophecy has images of Susie(if that's her) with the heart...

(You) end up controlling Susie and that's when she wears ribbons

>>529496836
Helldivers 2
Clearly Super Earth needs to determine the best way to weaponize dark fountains to crush their enemies.

>>529496680
Say WHAT KRIS!? we're gonna cast SNOWGRAVE on MYSELF!? And my ICE CUBE will become a BED to KEK me on!? And you’ll get EVERY GIRL in town, and SUSIE will PROCEED to KEK them ALL right on TOP of me!? I’ll be FORCED to WATCH, UNBLINKING through the ICE, as SUSIE gives the LOVE I’ve WANTED to HUNDREDS of other girls INSTEAD!? Well all I can say is YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOEE, WHERE’S THAT THORNRING!?

>>529496836
it is now the dark souls of undertale

Where my Ralsusie bros at?

>>529496868
>Kris shows his SOUL to Susie and Ralsei
>Ralsei carries it to the other team
BOOM

>>529496836
>clone hero
wow its just an expanded version of the chapter 3 minigame

So what does Kris actually want?
What we know
>works with the knight
>is keeping secrets from everyone
>cares about his friends
>will actively protect them if he can from us or others unless it's the knight
>hates it when we try to make Ralsei sad
>hates it if we try to shit on Susie
Also, is he actually the real Kris? The rudins say he isn't, maybe that's why he hates us because he's really a half assed darkener.

>>529496937
>practically no good fics on AO3
We are so FUCKING oppressed

>>529496868
we've got two

>>529496958
Kris most certainly would not do that

>>529496958
Not even that, remember you can just close your eyes and "play" as other characters at any moment

>>529496836
>The first Rune Factory game
Imagining Susie as a farmer isn't actually that hard, she could rock the straw hat

>>529496836
>disco elysium
alcoholic detective thinks it's a simple case but then dark world fuckery happens

>>529496972
100% Kris's end goal is to somehow save Dess

>>529496972
Adding to this, he's working with the knight for a reason, but that reason isn't ending the world. If it was, why would he care about his friends.

Why is he like this?

>>529496972
He’s definitely the real Kris, Noelle recognized him in weird route and recognizes us as a new thing

>>529496972
>The rudins say he isn't
No they don't.

>>529497086
You're making Kris break the promise

>>529496972
Kris just wants to save Dess, anon. It's guaranteed you will fight them and Dess together in chapter 7.

>>529496958
Remember, Kris can't remove the soul while in the Dark World. We don't entirely know why, but it's possible that the soul will transform into the vessel if escapes his body

>>529496232
Kris seems to know about save points:
>* At times, you see it flickering.
>* The light only you can see.
>* By second nature, you reach out, and...
On the one hand I don't know what the point of that would be if they never use them productively.
On the other hand it opens a giant can of worms.
And we never see them act on knowledge carried back through a reset.

>>529497086
Because kris isn't interested in the majority of shit we force him to do and our style and way of interacting with friends isnt his style
Kris was a borderline bully towards Noelle regardless of how turned on she is by that kind of freak

>>529496691
Some YouTuber had an interesting theory: FRIEND is Seam's smile. King says that Seam lost own smile during 'Jevil imprisonment' thing. FRIEND is associated with smiles and cats. ch4 shows Seam on Asriel's PC, so Seam is important. Seam is Cheshire's cat.

>>529496973
Just make your own... Or all the Ralsusiefags are using AI instead to be in the shoe of one or the other

>>529497034
You can fight their battles for them, but you can't actually play as them beyond that. It would suck to have some dark worlds relegated to just dialogue option-less cutscenes and battles without being able to explore.

>>529496937
I like the idea that Susie and Ralsei will turn away from the mission at some point so they won't need to be separated, even if it means the inevitable destruction of the world.

The true prophecy is is Kris, Noelle, and Lancer.
A human cage, a monster girl, a prince from the dark.

>>529497074
But, what if it's not that. What if he's not the real Kris and he's not even a real boy.
>>529497114
He's an exact copy and sounds like him, that's what the Rudins say in MANCOUNTRY. Kris colored in the copies so they looked like the real thing, otherwise they're monochrome.
>>529497126
The card guys are Rudin's right, the blue one tells you you're a cheap copy in the 4th egg room.

>>529497164
Kris knows they fill him with power (restores their HP), but they might not know about the save function.

>>529497202
>harmless children's pranks
>borderline bullying
come on

>>529496972
He knows about the last prophecy, which involves some sort of sacrifice, and is working to make it happen as planned. His description in Chapter 4 refers to him as a carrier of fate, the voice at the phone talks about some sort of sacrifice, and Susie saying "most importantly, Kris would not let that happen" sounds like dramatic irony in the making.

>>529496709
I never ate cereal with milk. I always ate it dry.

>>529497021
Only on the weird route, where going full Persona would be a wild tonal shift

>Catti becomes playable
>summons Everyman and FRIEND as her attacks or ACTs

https://x.com/MuiroBara/status/1932451842405118215
Damn, can't wait for this to be canon. do I can shit on all the dessknights.

>>529496973
I don't read a lot of fics but that does suck yeah.

>>529497264

>this entire fucking game revolves around Dess
I can't think of a more horrifying prospect. I hope for Kris' sake this isnt true because the horror beyond human comprehension that inhabits his body might just go out of its way to fuck it all up just out of sheer spite for Noelle's boring family drama bullshit

>>529497267
The Rudinn in the fourth egg room says that cheap knockoffs don't have the right to complain, people interpret it as a subtle dig on Kris but it doesn't have to be.

>>529497202
bullying your friends is not the same thing as being a real bully. It's the intent and the sevirity, besides Noelle liked it.
>>529497296
I guess the question is what has to be sacrificed. It's something they're all upset about, so it could be literally anything.

>>529497267
>the blue one tells you you're a cheap copy in the 4th egg room.
No it doesn't. That straight up did not happen.

>>529496972
Kris is emotionally repressed and clearly feels guilty over what happened to Dess (the "you promised" on the phone is pure manipulation), I think they hate you because you're trying to take away the only hope for happiness and redemption they have. But you're also forcing them to spend time with Susie, caring about her more, and that's created this growing pang of dual loyalties.

Are you happy with Undyne being kidnapped and Carol being a katana maniac?

>>529497394
It absolutely is all about Dess. It's a story of a past tragedy haunting a town and also a parallel to Undertale being ultimately about Asriel.

>>529497435
I'm not gonna bother looking up a video for somebody that doesn't play the game, so refer to this poster I'm replying to and fuck off.
>>529497405
It could be either or, but it's a weird thing to say either way and is intentionally vague I think. We know the vessel was discarded and was monochrome, who's to say it wasn't what became our Kris.

>>529497394
I mean the Soul do seem to make people Kris better

>>529497394
I'm fine with her getting substantial narrative focus, but if the game revolves her to the degree that Dessfags want it to, I'm killing Tony Fucks

>>529496868
For now. Chapter 4 even describes SOUL's light as a pale imitation of Susie's HOPE. Would not be the first time when Susie democratizes MC-exclusive power.

>>529497538
Is Susie just the main character at this point

>>529497389
>>529497538
Did you know more women date ai boyfriends than men date ai girlfriends?

Ok, things got out of hand last thread, so I'd like to pick up where I left things off. I figured that the King of Spades asks us "What was the Knight like?" because the King's interaction with the Knight were brief and likely didn't explain much, other than what the King wanted to hear at the time. Jevil likely had a much more meaningful interaction with the Knight, and by Ch4, the King wants to know how much Kris knows, because the King, at this stage, has figured out he is being left out of a grander plan.
In short, I'm still convinced that the King of Spades and the Knight had SOME kind of interaction.

>>529497509
The fish already had her game to have a cool moment in. Now let her be comedy relief.

>>529496868
Wait, did Ralsei say that only Kris can seal the fountain because he knew Susie wouldn't do something like this at the time?

>>529497536
You don't even know how to spell Rudinn, but I'm the one who doesn't play the game? It's referring to itself as a knockoff because it's one of the photocopied aces, dumbass.

>>529497536
>what became our kris
We know it's not because our vessel creation was interrupted. Kris existed long before our Vessel, considering he had a save file prior to our arrival. And even if that's not enough to convince you, it's poor storytelling when the game has tried to clarify that Kris exists separately from you. Why would a vessel be fighting against the person who designed it? That's stupid.

>>529497067
>these Moralists are pissing me off
>I'm the orginal . . . . . . .Revacholian

>>529497676
Didn't read, kys or go look up a letsplay, last (you)

>>529497258
Chapters 1-2 allow dialogue options during PoV scenes. Susie can hear something, just ignores them (except for puzzle solution, she actually listens to that).

>>529497654
Nah I am pretty sure King didn't meet The Knight at all
Everything he knows is second-hand from Jevil

>>529497509
>>529497663
It's funny and cool, I will accept it as long as Undyne has cool moments in the next chapters on par with Gerson. I want to see her interact with Kris and Susie.

>>529497613
I fully believe that she is the main character.

>>529497549
Im the soul and Im going to absolutely fucking murder the everloving shit out of everyone i can if i spent 25 god-dollars and 7+ years of my life on Dess.

Ill go back to Undertale and kill everyone there too.

>>529497394
>>529497551
Everything in the town is the outcome of Dess going missing

>>529497665
The SOUL is clearly a critical part of the prophecy considering it gets special mention in the prophecy and Team Knight managed to hijack it somehow, so Ralsei most likely knows (or thinks if >>529497583 is right) that only the SOUL can seal fountains.

>>529497267
>>529497405
>>529497536
https://hushbugger.github.io/deltarune/text/?chap=4#4_obj_dw_churchb_man

>>529497164
"You" as in (You), the player.

>>529497394
I called it out in Chapter 2, the way December gets brought up by both Berdly and Noelle thorough the chapter along with Asgore being kicked out of the police was enough for me to conclude it's gonna be family drama

Can't wait for the roaring knight to be revealed as Asriel so all of you doefags can finally shut the fuck up about Dess

>>529497791
nah undyne will continue being useless in dr
ut was her moment to shine, and gerson already fufilled her potential role in dr
at best you might get one moment were she and the other residents of hometown throw magic at a titan or some shit just long enough for the heroes to regroup and take it down

>>529497727
The other characters would also ignore them.

>>529497683
>it's poor storytelling when the game has tried to clarify that Kris exists separately from you. Why would a vessel be fighting against the person who designed it? That's stupid.
Not necessarily you can create children but ultimately they aren't your property. It might be the same kind of thing, like we made him but he's not ours to control for all time.
>We know it's not because our vessel creation was interrupted. Kris existed long before our Vessel, considering he had a save file prior to our arrival.
This can still be true even if he was our vessel. What's more if he's not our vessel gone rogue and is indeed his own man. Why were we brought there, why was the vessel created, and where is it now? It is possible the knight's using it or it is the Knight if it's not Carol or Dess.

>>529496836
mirror's edge rune: it's not a hugely violent game to start with. i guess kris does a lot more running.

The stakes are obviously going to be greater than just Dess, there's an entire deal with the nature of the Dark Fountains at all and how to balance things out to save the worlds.

>>529497814
>>529497880
>Kris and Dess fucking passionately after backstabbing Susie ((You) didn't get the egg in chapter 3)

>>529497613
>>529497809
Susie harem protagonist

>>529497847
Neat, I can use this website to factcheck my theory about dialogue choices.

>>529497826
See, I'm fine with her being the Laura Palmer of the story. What annoys me is the idea that literally everything every character does is about Dess and nobody has their own personality outside of Dess.

>>529497932
too long didn't read all of that
The vessel is created without autonomy of it's own. It literally cannot exist separate of the soul, except in the unique circumstance of being in the dark world, where things without souls can come to life

After poring over Mother videos for 5+ hours I've concluded that Dessknight is real
Plenty have said that it feels derivative of the Masked Man plot in Mother 3, but I think Toby doesn't care because there's a very specific kind of experience Toby is seeking to create.
in Mother 3 there's this dummied out boss known colloquially as "Lucas's Nightmare", as well as a number of other dummied out scenes that still exist in the game data, and it's a matter of public record that the head of the project wanted Mother 3, especially its climax, to be darker than the previous two games, but at the same time the ratings classifications for games was getting stricter
and it gets spelled out for us in Chapter 3 that the game Tenna is giving us had all the dark stuff dummied out
So I think the desired experience Toby wants to make with the Weird Route is to simulate what it'd be like if you could exploit glitches and bugs and sequence breaks (such as, if you keep spamming this one spell a character can't cast yet, the game bugs out and she casts it anyway) to access all the dummied out scenes of a game in a way that doesn't render it unwinnable.
Dess is the Knight because that's the final boss fight of the game, and while Weird Route doesn't change the ending, it will let you experience a much more fucked up version of that boss fight that'll spell out a lot of stuff that prior to that only existed as speculations and interpretations, comparable to the "the final fight of mother is performing an abortion on Gigyas before its born" theory

>>529497410
>besides Noelle liked it.
noelle's a freak into weird shit specifically as a coping mechanism though.

Noelle is my gf, not Kris'
Susei, Ralsei, Berdly, Lancer and everyone are MY friends not Kris'
I'm everything he could NEVER be

>>529497990
everybody wants a piece of her ((you) included!)

>friend wanted me to watch them play deltarune
>
I dont mind
But it is kinda scary that i didnt feel it

the only contribution Dess had was fluffy boys and wiffle bats

>>529498032
>too long didn't read all of that
aight then I won't read your post retard lol

The Vessel is the key to all of this. At a critical moment in the story, our creation will pay off and be the deciding factor in our victory.

>>529497290
>Sneaking into someone's house in the middle of the night to hide under the bed and terrify them
>Said "prank" is taking advantage of her gained fear of humans from your bullying
>"Harmless childhood prank"
What planet are you from

>>529497683
Kris is not OUR vessel. But still a goner vessel. Likely defective. Kris likely thought he would be finally a "Real Boy" when he stole the SOUL from Gaster. I bet he was feeling pretty smug when he discarded our vessel.

vesselcucks are getting uppity again

>>529498082
so you said no and think its because you dont like deltarune?

Imagine God chilling out on his higher plane of existence arguing with other gods on his own internet imageboard calling him a retard for his level of involvement or lack thereof in our world

>>529497654
Doesn't the King say he never even met the knight and just heard about it somehow

>>529498153
The vessel has been with us the whole time
>>529498179
The only thing we have to suggest Kris is partially goner is the hand theory, which suggests one of his hands was replaced with a goner hand and that's how he can rip the soul out at all. I don't buy into him being a true goner vessel at all.

>>529498082
Could be worse, your friend could be multi-tasking and then wondering why they're failing at the simplest task

>>529497912
"Can ignore" does not mean "will always ignore".

do you think Goners can grow up or are they just stuck like that forever

>>529498065
you could say she's a hussy

>>529498262
Jevil told him about the Knight, yes.

>>529498253
>The reason I'm a friendless sperg is because God keeps picking the bad dialogue choices for the lulz

>>529497613
Yeah. I'd rather be her than Kris. It's kind of annoying getting sidelined in the game you paid for.

I never even noticed Kris coughing in the quiz until other people pointed it out. I picked pie just because it was Toriel's specialty but had a nagging doubt that maybe Kris had actually gotten sick of pie a long time ago but Toriel wouldn't hear of anything that goes against the idealized version of her baby that exists in her head

Deltarune becomes more unsettling when you realize that due to the soul taking over their body, Kris has likely been starving the entire game. Why else would they have eaten all of that pie?

>>529498314
Goner Kid

>this much theorizing over Dess knight
Kill the Titan Spawns with Kris's black shard and see what the victory text says
The wiki doesn't have it, so you have to see it yourself.

>>529498065
>noelle's a freak into weird shit specifically as a coping mechanism though.
She's specifically into it because of Kris and Dess, which really starts making the theory that Dess is a cunt a real possibility. Like she might be a Mamimi or Haruko tier selfish asshole.
>>529498040
Neat analysis anon, I wonder if the weird route is an intended bad ending based on that or if it's something we might have to dip our toes into to get a better good route.
What's the deal with Claus, since he's basically the Dess stand in, and who would be Porky, Gaster?

>>529498279
Hand theory is retarded. He's either a goner, or not a goner. There's no such thing as "a little gone".

>>529498389
you think he's just stuck like that?

>>529498347
thanks i was drawing a blank. pic related.

>>529498253
that's basically how Mesopotamian mythology goes.

I, for one, enjoy Deltarune for the domestic abuse simulation

>Susiefags when Deltarune is about the old DANK squad and their lore and not about Krusie
fuck...

>>529498360
reminder that chara's favourite food is chocolate

>Get bullied by your neighbor so much you develop Stockholm Syndrome just to be able to get through your day
>They only even did it to get your sister's attention

>>529498040
That would mean Kris got a sibling, anon

>>529496539
Extra note, that dialogue changes depending on keybinds. I wish this was acknowledged more because you can set Z to 1 so I was hoping itd make susie say "(One what?)" instead of "(Who the hell is Z?)"

>>529498347
>the Jester that tried to kill everyone told me a spooky ghost talks with him, better wage war
I see he's that kind of monarch.

>>529498397
it happens when you purify them too, right?

>>529498360
I picked Pie because Toriel

>>529498314
They're pretty obviously fucked in ways inconceivable, although admittedly it is weirdly endearing to think about goners having some sort of natural lives of their own that appear intimidating and incomprehensible to us but is completely natural and reasonable to them
I think Gonerkid in particular though is a solid indication that theyre having a bad time

>>529498489
This is why Noelle says her friendship with Kris was forced. Kris is too much of a bully even for Noelle.

>>529498493
...Asriel.

>>529498383
No, Kris just really like sweets. I mean, yes he hasn't been fed, but he just really like sweets and eating a whole pie isn't uncommon for him. HOWEVER, we have to ask how the roaring knight is getting food in the light world. They have to be a lightner to travel through the light world, so they have to be getting food somehow. The pie from chapter 2's ending also mysteriously disappeared and was never mentioned again.
>>529498418
>there's no such thing as
Buddy, it's a game and we don't even know all the rules yet. Don't start discounting possibilities just because you can't rationalize them.

>>529498397
>>529498524
Huh? It doesn't say anything unusual

>>529498517
Toby also said the fountain corrupted him

I'm confused about the history of the Vessel in DR fan theories. Is anyone sincere about this? As far as I'm concerned Vessel exists for the minute it takes to make them at the start of chapter 1 and is then discarded. Where do people go from there?

>>529497613
To be fair, that's just kinda what happens when you have a silent protagonist with a constant talking partner.

>>529498524
>>529498603
For me it said "December became stronger"

>>529498397
Honestly what did toby mean making the sprites of those things look like a fetus and trying to stop the titan from HATCHING? Abortion? are the titans an analogy for abortion? Ik this sounds schizo like that dumb fucking guy who said silent hill is an analogy for circumcision trauma.

>>529498383
I feed my Kris chocolate and diner chow every day though

>>529497278
Ahh right, it does other things too

>>529497848
That's making a lot of assumptions about the player and I think usually when narration is phrased that way it's about Kris
Even assuming I know save points from other games or whatever I'm not the one reaching out, that's Kris

>>529498642
It's mostly cope since people are starting to turn on Kris. They don't wanna deal with them.

>>529498580
"Kris is a former goner that got 'colored-in" would have interesting story consequences. "Kris have a hand" gives us... what exactly? Everyone have hands.

>>529498671
What in the personalized copy of deltarune are you fucking talking about, schizo

>>529498671
anon got that personalized copy

>>529498412
one comparison that's been bandied around a bit is that its actually Kris that's the Porky analogue, or rather, would have been if the Vessel hadn't gone missing and thus it was Heartshapedobject in the Vessel befriending Susie and Noelle while Kris is not so secretly working with the bad guys. And possibly also doing time travel shit given the existence of the Kris save data, basically a blend of Earthbound Porky the lonely bully and Mother 3 Porky the bastard unstuck in time both old and young

kris is jerking off to something. what should happen next?

>>529498020
To be fair she is the daughter of the person running the place

>>529498427
He's Not A Follower
But He Certainly Knows Gaster
So He Should To Be Relatively Old
But Seems As Young As Monster Kid

>>529498671
this anon's dad works at nintendo too i bet

>>529498517
he's doing his best! be nice to him!

>Dess helps out Noelle in winning the snow angel competition and beats up Kris for pranking her scaredy-deer sister
>"nah, she is eddy's brother"

>>529498731
>person sacrifices part of their humanity due to their loyalty
Far better storyline than "um actually kris is a vessel too but he's totally his own person and hates us despite wanting a soul so badly"
Kris hating (you) if he IS a goner vessel is so ass backwards that it's not even funny. I already expect deltarune to have a shit ending but I expect better than that at least.

>>529498493
Kris grew up with both the Holidays and the Dreamurs. Dess was almost as much his sibling as Asriel was

>>529498862
>beats up Kris for pranking her scaredy-deer sister
When was that mentioned?

>>529498820
the soul forces him to edge

>>529498661
Fair enough.

>>529498820
he fucking dies.

>>529498862
Dess isn't Eddy's brother, she's something even worse
She's a hardcore LARPer with an endgame boss raiding guild leader mentality

>>529498820
>Connected.
We arrive mid jork and are disgusted.
that or toriel walks in and it's the whole "MOM IT WAS A VIRUS! I WAS DELETING A VIRUS AND I GOT SCARED AND MY PANTS WERE SLIPPING MOM" thing.

>>529498862
who the fuck is Eddy?

>>529498642
It's not actually discarded in the code. The game even has a default vessel prepared for savefiles started after chapter 1. It's bald, of course.

>>529498554
the gray coloring makes me feel like they're closer to clay constructs with souls in them than normal monsters
I don't think it's actually the case but it just feels that way

>>529497394
>>this entire fucking game revolves around Dess
I hate it! I hate it so fucking much!

>>529498748
I also got this text. I knew I had the right FUN value when Ralsei said "What the sigma?" in Ch4 after one of the piano gates.

If items in the dark world return to what they really are in the light world, would Susie instantly become naked if she left the dark world wearing the dark world clothing Ralsei has for her in her room?

>>529498972
>This MF

>>529498879
He's a failed vessel, which got discarded long before SURVEY_PROGRAM. We didn't create him.

>>529498705
Titans represent a primal fear of the dark and unknown. It just makes sense for them to be babies.

Titan spawn have 666 written all over their fucking code man
No bueno

>>529497394
after years of waiting, the story has finally progressed, and that makes me SO MAD

>>529498880
Holy moly he's right, Asgore's got a gigantic fat cyock betwixt his legs!!!

>>529498820
Elly!

>>529498972
From Ed Edd n Eddy

>>529498987
>It's bald
Lol, now I get it. I'll make my own theories from here.

>>529498731
Kris have blue skin in his dark world and all the jokes about him being dead or a zombie is symbolic of him being dead as fuck

>>529499094
Penis theory confirmed

>>529498717
>Even assuming I know save points from other games
The game assumes you've played Undertale. There's even an Undertale reference in another save point later in chapter 1. Kris obviously has not played Undertale.

>>529498893
Except Carol approves Kriselle. I don't think she would approve incest

>>529498179
>still a goner vessel.
I doubt it, vessels seem to be manufactured and Kris visibly grew up

>>529499178
>Kris obviously has not played Undertale.
then his life is forfeit

>>529497278
The first time you save the game it overwrites Kris' save. He knows what its about.

>>529499050
OK but we've already established vessels can't operate without a soul, and Kris clearly had a whole life prior to our arrival, what with the save data and all. Him being a vessel outright doesn't make sense.

>>529499184
>make plot important character who you know is gonna get tons of fanart
>don't give her a proper design so all the fanart will not feel right once she's revealed
Toby I fucking hate you

>>529499094
this makes the chapter better for me

>>529499094
Penisgate is real

>>529499282
he has to know, and thats part of the reason i believe in human dess theory, because it totally feels like he'd want to troll everyone over the course of years into drawing a character that doesnt actually exist

>>529499094
We cock dick
balling

>>529499375
She exists in UT though

>>529498671
>>529498748
>>529499032
I know it's a joke and all but I had to look just to be sure because you can never trust a schizo
There is no string for this. And there's no "formatted string" for it either, so it's not injectable. I doubt toby is smart enough to do on-the-fly string changes in the battle code, but I'll even double check there to be sure. 99% sure this isn't real though

>>529499282
It's fun to speculate though...

>>529499278
Kris is SOULless. Not much different from Flowey.

Krusiebros...

>>529498926
just as he was about to cum, the soul connected to him and now he splattered cum all over himself including the soul. what's the best course of action?

>>529499459
If Kris is soulless, so is everyone else. No one in the entirety of the game has a soul like ours. Deltarune's version of the soul is different from our SOUL, and that's evident in the fact that Gerson was revived from his dust in the dark world, where a monster in undertale ceases to be because their soul vanishes entirely

>>529499497
doesn't this technically fulfill the sword route "prophecy" of Kris striking down Susie and Ralsei?
Like, that's done now, Kris doesn't have to kill them

>>529499178
>The game assumes you've played Undertale
It prefers for you to have played Undertale but I don't think it treats it like a hard assumption

>>529499507
Let him use me as a rag

>>529499509
where balls

>>529499404
I mean its still not impossible she's a human there too. Asgore wouldnt kill his college friends daughter no matter how much it was needed. Maybe that's what the isolated cabin was for, he purposefully gave them a spot away from civilization so Dess wouldnt be dragged into the conflict or hell she's one of the other souls after dying from other means

>>529499585
you know who sans is and know that alphys and undyne are related. these are things you learn in every Undertale route if you read the dialogue. this is pretty much all the game assumes.

>>529499459
Pretty Sure Kris Cant Enter A Dark World SOULless
So If Kris Was SOULless, How Did They Got A Save Inside The Dark World?

>>529499585
The SOUL turning yellow against Mettaton NEO only makes sense if it's the SOUL of an Undertale player

>>529499649
reptiles don't have external testes

>Kris can't enter a dark world soulless
Where the fuck does this shit come from? Source?

>>529499672
What would Kris's favourite Miku song be

>>529499738
This theory is dead now because there are overworld save points.

>>529499739
this is a cool reference to an undertale player just like the gerson fight but still just doesnt matter to someone who hasnt played it

>>529499780
I think its less "He cant enter soulless" and more "He couldnt LEAVE soulless", we're still needed to seal the fountains

>>529499780
"... Kris... dark world... no soul... can't..."

>>529499556
The book about SOULs in the library implies otherwise

>>529499780
Phone tells Kris they need the soul........dark fountain

>>529499738
>>529499780
>>529499809

>>529499780
Not confirmed, but can be inferred from the fact the soul is used to seal the fountains, and Kris never rips their soul out in the dark world, only in the light world. It might be a "can enter, can't leave" scenario without the soul like the other anon said.

>>529499802
None, Kris hates anime and anything anime-adjacent

>>529499556
That was in Undertale. In Deltarune monster SOULs don't shatter, they reside in the object they hold dear.
Source: a library book.

>>529499802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bluJ-vGnGMw

>>529499958
>Kris hates anime and anything anime-adjacent
Where the fuck does this shit come from? Source?

>>529499914
The SOUL is also what's used to purify the Titan and Titanspawn which supports that theory
Running around SOULless in the Dark World is also probably a bad idea if it's some kind of "if it has no SOUL it counts as a Darkner" situation

>>529496038
Meanwhile the vessel

>>529499828
Basically, It Textually Says "Cant Enter"

>>529499959
I thought the dust was sprinkled on the object.

>>529499809
Overworld save points are specifically described as something that shouldn't be there

>Kris will rather wait until he's alone to rip out the soul than give the jig out to save Noelle
Kick me how much you want, it won't excuse you of your guilt dumbass twink.

>>529500017
not to mention without the soul, there's no way to evade most enemy attacks and most midbosses would be unbeatable

>>529500017
Dustner Kris (Corpsner?) would be fun to see

>>529500012
Kris's reaction to the anime review in the library and the flavor text for both cactuses in chapter 4

>>529500012
When you're given the choice to read Alphys' anime reviews, instead of a "No" option you're given a "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO" option.

>>529496836
uh.....................
Horse girl race manigcally appears in deltarune and obliterates the prophecy before running off to race somehwere

>>529500069
Honestly, I dont think thats why he doesnt do it. Noelle could easily chalk it up to being part of her dream if he did rip it out, there has to be a real reason he cant
Like maybe the fact we're an object and would change if not inside kris when in a dark world

>>529500173
Was that a jojo's reference?

>>529499875
Nice moonrunes. Explain what the fuck they mean if you're going to use them as evidence.
>>529500052
No? It says a "patch of sunlight where sunlight shouldn't be" as in it's a shaded location and shouldn't have sunlight there. Furthermore it doesn't matter if it "isn't supposed to be there". It is.

>>529500209
I'm referring to chapter 4. What are the rules for when the power balance shifts and Kris can rip us out, or we can overpower his choices?

>>529500032
>* (It's a book about Monster Funerals. Read it?)
>Read
>* ... When monsters die, their dust will be spread over what they loved.
>* An object that symbolizes their existence. That object will be buried...
>* And in such a way, their soul be able to rest, within that object, and the earth.
>* Of course, everyone knows that. That's why this is the introduction...

>>529500252
>CANT USE A FUCKING TRANSLATOR

>>529500252
>as in it's a shaded location and shouldn't have sunlight there
It's in front of a window, what are you talking about?

>>529499509
after that, toriel pegged susie while sans fucked toriels ass and they made a sex train

>>529498175
>made the "middle of the night" thing up
>made the "sneaking" thing up
>made the "gained fear" thing up

>>529498040
Exactly why its papyrus. Toby loves red herrings!

>>529500126
>He thought the zombie jokes were just jokes

>>529496836
>Project Zomboid
Call up that one anon making a zombie deltarune fic, he can answer that one
It might already be merging though, I cant escape FRIEND even there

Kris is doing the entire game as an epic prank to hurt Susie's feeling that the Knight cooked up so therefore all of (you)r actions to hurt them are justified

>>529500309
I can't be assed to considering it's your argument, yeah. It's on you to prove us wrong

>>529498862
Dess is worse than eddy’s brother. She’s an aura farmer and a jobber

>>529499672
why does Kris have the fucking cuts all over?

>>529500261
Snowgrave pressures Kris' weak point. It's clear that he have some kind of childhood trauma that's related to Holidays and ice magic.

>>529500338
>never talked to Rudy
Dude outright tells you that Kris did exactly this and mentions her fear of humans hiding under the bed.
He's known for taking advantage of her fears.

>>529498065
>as a coping mechanism
(you made this up)
>>529497613
yes
>>529497394
>Game barely mentions dess
>2 references
>one plot relevant happening (guitar code)
>No mention of what happened to her (could've just gone off to college as well
>Literally irrelevant
>somehow brainraped into the narrative by /vg/ooners

>>529500407
>Cant Read

>>529500482
Spamton when he sees my erect clit (micropenis)

>>529500261
There are none. Only what's convenient for the narrative.

>>529500493
>game barely mentions Asriel

>>529500493
>could've just gone off to college as well
Waaaay too far in the other direction

>>529500464
how? He doesn't react whatsoever to the holiday family thing or the ice magic, he only cares when we hurt noelle
you literally just made this shit up
why do you people keep making shit up

>>529496836
>Cyberppunk 2077
the red soul is basically already occupying the same role as Johnny Silverhand, only now I gotta do tohou shit every time I want to quickhack some goons into having cyberpsychosis

>>529500343
>Mikebro still anally butthurt

GIVE ME MY FUCKING VESSEL TOBIAS

>>529500393
>so therefore all of (you)r actions to hurt them are justified
Hurting Susie is never justified

>>529500557
(asriel is irrelevant)

>>529500462
just scratches from not cutting their fingernails

>>529500352
Ignoring any weird people say about this image with the whole dess is the knight thing and kris seeming to being working with the knight, the idea that kris and dess witnessed something something so horrible that they had made a promise in the past and are now working together to do some bad fountain stuff in some unseen goal that could be doing bad things for a good reason seems to be a good theory. No creep shit, im just thinking world needs to be destroyed or brought to the brink of destruction for something to be done to fix whatever horrible thing they both saw.

>>529497613
If you think Susie is the protagonist then you've taken the same prophecy bait she did hook line and sinker

>>529500568
>speedreading the game

>>529500581
I don't understand people who get mad about Mike, but maybe that's because I lived through Homestuck and I know what it looks like when the creator genuinely does hate their fandom

>>529500718
>"Hey Kris, let's think about what Susie's doing since she's not here!"

>asriel is the knight
>dess isn't relevant
>asgore was removed from the police force for embezzling money
>carol is not involved with kris' dark world shenanigans
>the ending preaches that (you) only win the game if (you) stop playing
I know you're here watching these threads, Fox. I'm on to you.

>>529500396
i need more

>>529500309
Expecting people to transcribe Japanese from a screenshot and feed it into a translator and compare it to the English text to figure out what you're on about is a bit much
But I looked it up in the text dump and got this:

> つぎ…
> …やみの…
> いずみ…
> …スージィ…
> ギター…
> さわらせな…
> …
> タマシイ…
> ひつよう…
> タマシイ…
> ないと…
> クリスは…
> …スージィ…
> ギター…あんごう…
> とめ…
> …けいさつ…
> いけにえ…
> らいしゅう…
> …こんや…
> きょうかい…
> タマシイ…ない…
> クリス…やみのせかい…
> はいれな…
> ……
> ……
> ……

> Next...
> ...Dark...
> Spring...
> ...Susie...
> Guitar...
> Don't touch me...
> ...
> Soul...
> Need...
> Soul...
> Not...
> Chris is...
> ...Susie...
> Guitar...Ango...
> Stop...
> ...Police...
> Sacrifice...
> Next week...
> ...Tonight...
> Church...
> Soul...Not...
> Chris...Dark World...
> Don't enter...
> ……
> ……
> ……

I don't know what "Don't enter" means. Is it descriptive or imperative? If it's imperative then I think it's just telling them not to enter since they can't get out.
ChatGPT says it's "a declarative statement of inability" but I really need the opinion of a human who knows Japanese

are krusiecucks still coping

>>529500718
She's the main character of the story told thus far regardless of whether or not she's the chosen one, that's how stories work

>>529500718
Susie is "Unchosen One" protagonist trope that's very common in web-novels.

>>529500786
Why is Dark World Kris so hot bros?

>>529500849
>Kris is gonna sacrifice someone
it'd be funny if this actually happens and people still cope that kris is some misunderstood wooby

>>529500396
Vessel got the short end of the stick, should have been Noelle

>>529499086
6s are associated with Gaster

>>529500931
they are PABN (phat ass blue nonbinary)

I can't wait to finally meet this ugly freak

>>529500960
It's what must be done.

>>529500849
It's most likely "can't enter" (入れない) with the last syllable cut off unless it turns out to be a trick by Tricky Tony.

>>529500918
I want a proper run with Noelle

>>529499636
wish granted

>>529501058
quick susie mating press and correct her!

>>529500998
>Bottom middle
He is a FRIEND inside himself.

>>529500493
>>one plot relevant happening (guitar code)
She gets turned into a demon by Toriel in the code
She also gets more text dialogue in the files each chapter you can only view in the code
The spamton phone calls feature her
Her themesong is remixed for the Kinght.

>>529501075
Can't, or shouldn't? Something bad would happen to Kris if he entered, or he can't physically enter?

>>529501113
make me sex him

>>529500786
Does Ralsei shave?

>>529501386
im sorry bro but thats kinda gay

I CAN'T FUCKING SLEEP FUCKING FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>529501258
"すべきではない" = "Shouldn't"
"できない" = "Can't"

>>529501506
do some housework then

>>529501258
It's somewhat ambiguous without the full sentence, but it's the negative version of the potential tense. Also English says "can't" there.

=)

>>529501575
Ah yes, my favorite AU. Alcohol

>>529501506
>wandered into /utg/ again
>ended up staying up until 5am accidentally just talking about fucking deltarune
I've been trying to get my sleep schedule back on track lately too

>>529501459
You know what, I'm into that

slicing the soul and sauteeing it with a red wine vinegar

I'm supposed to get up in 2 hours but I can't stop thinking about the doe
She's literally destroying my life

>>529501780
Kris...

>>529501575
https://youtu.be/Y3bGokenwdQ

I hope Toby will make rouxls a weird route boss who's as difficult as genocide undyne

>SOULless Kris skulks at night
>Napstablook patrols the Hometown
>They suddenly meet
>Napstablook gets sucked into Kris' heartless black hole in the chest
>they merge
>Kris no longer exist
Happy End?..

>>529501478
He does when I need extra warmth.

>>529501575
sex with all of them

>>529496836
>Final Fantasy VII

Oh yeah Ralsei also has one of these
Of course he would lol

>>529501386
Oh you people...

I woke up and
>>529495795 (OP)
*stares at OP pic*
...can't go back to sleep :(

>>529502043
what

>>529502043
Explain.

Is saveless possible like it was in undertale? I wanna do deathless to prove Dess and Friend a bitch

>>529495996
Catti looks canon af

So will the Chapter 5 be the last "normal" chapter before story progresses into its post episode 18 evangelion stage?

>>529501694
i stayed up until 4 am because i didn't want to miss out on the schizo retardation hype train from yesterday, i'm a fuckin mess

>>529502214
I think the game creates an automatic save at chapter end so you have any lightworld items transferred. so non manual saves yes. chapter start auto saves no.

>>529502231
Seems like it. There's almost no further space in ANONTown left.

>>529502131
>>529502167
In chapter 4 Ralsei is organized with all the titan stuff in the files, which is usually just 1.666666666666666~

>>529502231
According to the prophesy (and how there was no 6th volume of Gerson's books) yeah. Shit's gonna get real at the end of chapter 5.

>>529502043
Titansei confirmed

>>529502384
>titan ralsei is real
BAAAAAAASED

>>529502063
The YT family guy sidebar has Peter on the beach flaunting his ass. It's meant as a joke, but he's kinda hot in it

>>529502393
6th volume existed, he just never described it. 7th volume never existed

>>529502393
>and how there was no 6th volume of Gerson's books
Why do people keep making this mistake? He says there was one more chapter after the 5th one and then it stopped.

>>529499802
Why Do I by Set it Off (featuring Miku)

>>529502384
Can you post a titan spawn code for comparison?

>>529502589
It's beautiful

>>529502393
I thought we got a sixth chapter (he just didnt talk about it)
>There was only one more chapter...after that, it all stopped.

>>529501631
Ask drunk chara was a tumblr askblog where Chara and Asriel returned. Also Sans and Toriel got married, somehow I still remember that

>>529502589
>How to serve players... IT'S A COOKBOOK

>>529502534
Its not a battle sprite, its an enemy sprite, but same thing

>>529502043
>>529502131
>>529502167
>Ralsei has the same numerical ids as dark spawn
>Dark spawns are associated with the numbers in 6's
>Gaster is heavily involved with 6s
>this means Ralsei, Gaster, and the dark spawn are all together somehow
?????????

>>529502817
What's that number, anyway? z-index for layering priority?

>>529502445
He's not real anon, this means he's a titan and related to Gaster.

How would (You) make eggman story arc to be not too important and not too unimportant for the general deltarune plot?

>>529502847
Ralsei is a good titan. You are getting another punch-out mini game with Titansei beating the shit out of several titans.

>>529501191
>Dude I told you. I don’t a dick.

>>529502847
Could just be for counting for taking over 1000 damage if hit with a dark shard. After all, we know a specific eggs-husband has one himself. Asgore absolutly just butchering ralsie for stealing his son's face.

>>529502315
There is no point in covering mouthes with these big holes

>>529502847
Ralsei is a titan who didn't fall for the titan psyops propaganda and is now going against them, it's why he's so overaggro about killing them instantly, because he knows how fucked up they are

>>529503017
Him becoming a titan might be the prophecy, he might be destined to destroy everything.
>>529502995
He would facilitate the events but not have direct impact over all of it, basically his role in UT for the most part but I don't believe this is the case give his extensive involvement. He might be a secret schizoboss that gives you full context if you beat hi, but isn't needed to complete the game.

>>529503017
>Titansei beating the shit out of several titans.
Kino

>>529502929
yeah its their position

>>529500849
Since you were nice enough to copy the text, I went ahead and actually checked it myself, since I usually can do localization just fine despite not really speaking or writing the language, but it's late and takes a long time so I didn't feel like it. Problem being, I'm struggling to get a grasp on this. Presumably because it's so broken up. The thing is I feel like this is actually two words, being "--は いれな--" (--ha irena--) instead of a single one, and they were placed together deliberately like this. Comparing that to our english "dark world... no soul... can't...", I think it was a deliberate misdirection.

>>529503017
>literally the same plot twist as The Owl House
Do all western kiddieshit writers exchange notes or what?

I'm getting the vibes that some girls self insert into Noelle for one reason or another

>>529503017
*crosses arms* well if he's so strong how come he didn't do that for the first Titan HMMMMM????

>>529503160
If thats the case maybe the last prophecy is about the girl killing the prince? Meaning ralsei didnt want susie to know she would have to kill him?

>>529503352
It was not time to unleash his true power just yet...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wptBrUqnyIc

>Ralsei doesn't know what's in the sword route
>Implying Weird Route isn't accounted for in the prophecy

Where do I find UTY? I've looked on steam and itch.io, I couldn't find it there.

>>529503328
You see kids when a kris self inserter and a noelle self inserter live out their sexual phantasms very much…

>>529503536
Gamejolt.

>>529503462
Doesn't check out. Ralsei is such a cumrag- I mean doormat that he wouldn't be this adamant about averting his own death, he'll gladly sacrifice himself for the others.

>>529503328
Front and side are fine, 3/4 is too flat

Berdly, Catti and Jockington will join the party.
They will watch the retarded Holiday/Dreemur family drama with Susie and Ralsei. Together.

Ralsei is Asriel but spelled differently
Coincidence? Methinks not!

>>529503293
>people relying on online translators that fail to grasp the way japanese actually works
>insist that the translations services are 100% correct and assume it's undoubtable proof
tale as old as time

>>529503462
That might be the case, which means the twisted sword has a real use in that case.

>>529503328
It reminds me of another game, but I'm not sure if I can mention it here...

>>529503492
>Chapter 3, The Isles of Northernlight.
>The heroes travel among the islands and catch a glimpse of a lost land.
Weird Route seems to be a part of the prophecy more than it is not
Either Ralsei's not telling us everything or he doesn't know as much as he thinks

>>529503592
I suppose, he would care about susie caring about him. Since he knows she doesnt want to do that. Also he might have some measure of self preservation deep inside such that he wants to be as useful as possible for as long as possible.
Because he too is afraid of death.

>>529503492
The weird route IS the prophecy
Kris (and maybe Ralsei) highjack the Soul by getting rid of the vessel and making go into Kris instead

>>529503592
No, with Susie's reaction, I think it's more for the fact that Susie feels she is locked in to acting like a bad guy, even after everything

>>529503682
>Either Ralsei's not telling us everything or he doesn't know as much as he thinks
The prophecy is so exact in most parts even things Lancer says are stated beforehand.

>>529503637
Ralsei and Asriel are evil because both can be spelled as Israel.

>>529503698
Not really, its more like
>original vessel route
>main deltarune route
>original vessel route being retroactively forced into the main deltarune route, making it extra weird and fucked up

>>529503328
Goomy’s cool though

>>529503682
>lost land
Enter the Humans Are Extinct theory and Kris is one of the few remaining

>>529503328
>Snoot for literally one single angle
>Just a human faced girl for literally every angle
why bother with the snoot at all

>>529503682
I think there could be a sort of paradox going on
like, Ralsei gets his information directly from the prophecy, but retroactively
if the prophecy changes, then so does his knowledge. To him it doesn't look like the prophecy changed because he doesn't remember the old one, only the current one
so when Tenna dummied out that part of the game, Ralsei lost the associated knowledge of it

>>529503682
Neither. There's two prophecies and it diverges at the point where snowgrave begins. Parts of both are shown throughout chapter 4. That's why the parts seem out of order. Susie only saw one of the possible endings, and we're not sure which

>>529503694
>>529503742
I get both arguments but the way Ralsei words it, the ending is something he hopes can be changed at all costs and he's been acting since the start to prevent it, so since way before he started to develop his own feelings. His death does not seem to fit that, in my opinion.

>>529503328
I feel this image explains it well enough

>>529503938
*shakes anon* TELL TOBY TO HURRY UP I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

>>529503568
...they create adorably retarded human-deer hybrid offspring?

>>529503682
Imagine if Roaring team wanted to prevent prophecy by opening a fountain in a place not affiliated with islands, but coincidentally tenna had just that, but in a game format

>>529504057
No just horribly retarded human-human offspring

>>529504057
why is he that colour

>>529504057
now post the shadowguy edit

>>529504136
In that case, what would the "intended" fountain location for the prophecy be?

>>529503682
>Chapter 4: a smith gives a dreadful weapon to the heroes
...what if it's not the justice axe? What if it's the Twisted Sword?

the way the prophecy repeated THE GIRL THE GIRL THE GIRL when Susie tried to run ahead almost seemed like whatever it is that generates the prophecy was buffering/lagging/calculating/generating what came next on the fly rather than it all being prerendered

>>529504157
Someone edited it to be Kris-Shadow Guy?

>>529504154
Chara…

>>529504223
Agreed

>>529504223
Every copy of the prophecy is personalized

>>529504193
could be something more abstract, like Hope
Hope can be described as a dreadful weapon because it gives you the courage to withstand far greater suffering without running away or giving up than you could without it

>>529504187
This IS an intended location. It doesn't matter where would they decide to open fountain, it will follow the prophecy in one way or another.

>>529504306
Where the heck is our caged prophecykino

>>529504223
Interesting idea. I’m not sure about it, darkners do get on-the-fly generated memories so maybe ralsei shortening the prophecy is an in-universe retcon.
But otherwise it could be put down to an expression of susie’s desire to see the prophecy. When without that desire she was never intended to see the final panel.

>>529504356
Makes me laugh every time, thank you

>>529504057
you've completely devalued this image through oversaturation, sucking all the fun out of it

>>529504223
I think the prophecy screen is just fucking around as any other darkner out there

>>529504378
Imagine if that was what we got
>Ralsei, this prophecy is a lot more detailed than you made it seem.
>It is VERY detailed.
>And you said you know all of it?
>Well, um... I-
>*next verse appears*
>RALSEI WEARS A CAGE

>>529504356
>>529504413
We really do need to edit more silhouettes into shadowguys.

>>529504223
>>529504382
It's because she created the fountain intending to see the prophecy that she wanted, but didn't actually know it. The dark worlds reflect the will of their creator, so the "the girl" panels appearing all over the place was a reflection of susie's will to see the prophecy, but because she doesn't actually know the prophecy, it couldn't show her it.

>>529504493
Not a terrible idea, but one of the shadow crystals confirms that the prophecy glass isn't a Darkner, it's always visible

>>529504582
We'll have to accept this as canon since Toby cucks us from any further info

>Ralsei tied with the titan and gaster
Ralsei = Vessel. Created by "Gaster" inside of a dark world
>prophecy
Multiple prophecies exist and the panels we see are a mix of the different possible routes. That's why they seem out of order
>chapter 4's dreadful weapon
Odd to treat what Gerson says as gospel considering he himself says lord of the hammer is made referencing the prophecy and shouldn't be treated literally.

>>529503682
Ralsei knows about the original prophecy, not re-interpretations.

>>529502523
>What happens next (after Chapter 5)?
>Who knows?
>There was only one more Chapter.
>After that, it all stopped.
>That next book never did get written.
>The story, it became so grand, so overwhelming,
>Some say it swallowed up the author himself.
I interpreted Gerson's speech as if he was saying that Chapter 6 was conceptualized and ultimately never written.

=)

We need the one true all encompassing theory
The All Theory
And stupid Spamton ruins all my theories because he doesn't fit anywhere WHAT is he is he the pile of printed spam emails is he a mannequin that found life is he a car salesman whos spirit is trapped is he a Darkner clone of the real car salesman is he is he where Toriel bought the car from

>>529505152
My theory:Deltarune is a video game and we're the ones playing it

Can anyone with an AO3 account try and retrieve whatever fic this is? I saw it on the utg writebin but the author seems to have hidden it under needing an account, which probably actually means it's set to private or something and merely trying to access it with an account won't do anything, but I'd like someone to verify. IA only archived the first chapter unfortunately.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/35230876/

I wonder if toby having bajilion dollars from selling 3+4 will expedite developement of 6+7.

What is Ralsei's last name?

>>529505229
care, his name is ralsie obama care.

>>529505152
He's a bot that sends spam emails

>>529505186
Debunked, Ch3 has a massive console with a hundred controllers, and Kris just throws our [Heart Shaped Object] around while Susie does whatever, the game is playing US

>>529505218
having an acc lets you in

>>529505229
Ralsei Ding

>>529505152
The same way elnino and lanina represent the weather channel and somehow exist outside of the TV, Spamton is the embodiment of spam emails and somehow exists separately to the computers now
The real question is why Jevil and Spamton don't turn into stone while equipped as items.

>>529505229
Rals-Xi-Dong

>>529505146
My demon servant cant be this cute!

>>529505354
I think the current theory is that darkners require a "purpose" within a dark world to remain unstoned.
Lancer was fine in chapter 2 until he was just tagging along through the mansion, which is when he started to turn.
In chapter 3, after everyone abandons Tenna, tons of darkners end up turning to stone, including ones who really should've been immune, seeing as they were from that dark world, because once they're not part of the show, they don't really have anything to do.
To that end, secret bosses that turn into our equipment are technically immune to this, because the entire time they're serving a purpose, helping us.

>>529505152
he's an ad that has been infected by a third party virus that was downloaded onto the library computer by Noelle, who then used string off letters and numbers in it as a genseed for Cat Petterz 2 and got a pipis
https://deltarune.com/bluecircle/

>>529505557
Anything to keep the 'purple one' away from Noelle.

>>529505152
You forgot about Virovirokun, Ambyu-Lance, Tasque Manager, Elnina, Lanino, etc.

Recreated background from Gerson's battle as a wallpaper (music + thunder + window effects, everything is customizable)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3509145499
btw can anybody help me to find falling leaves sprites that happen behind the window

>>529505573
Sucks to be remote guy, you either serve stupid ass tv guy or turn to stone

Hey anon~
Is YOUR school project done yet?~

>>529505757
Fuck off Berdly I've been out of school for years now.

>>529505757
i don't go to school anymore, bird brain

Thoughts?

>>529505869
The knight definitely is a figure skater, but that doesn't really narrow it down much, Carol could just as easily be a figure skater too

>>529505354
Idk, there is meaning behind Darkners, being illusions of objects, somehow losing their life/illusion when turned to stone or as ice, something I think Carol is privy to since she bronzes the Noelle stuff

>>529505869
Ice skates are also used in the not so graceful sport of hockey. the whole hockey stick thing. but someone can be into both.

>>529506056
No kidding that a dark world in Noelle's house would be literal hell

>>529505573
"Purpose" aligns with the mention of contracts in chapter 3

>>529505841
Yep, cumming to this

>>529506146
yo is that fucking deerface dude?

Can other people take us out or just Kris? If the knight really wanted to he could just steal us so Kris can't seal the fountain.

>>529505573
What is the purpose of Cool Trashie and Ribbicks?

>>529505869
Unconvincing

Qrd on baby kris?

>>529506373
>knight
>he
Rudy is the knight confirmed???

>>529506484
Yes.

>>529506484
>darkness
>dripping from his cock
PLEASE TOBY FOX PLEASE

>>529505816
No need to be rude to a girl, my lowly friend~

>>529506570
The producer cut suselle

>>529506384
Trash cans are an odd case where, technically, they're always serving a purpose just by existing, so Ribbicks probably fit under the same umbrella of being some type of trash/dust/mess that perpetuates its own purpose.
At least that's how I see it, I could be entirely wrong and just making shit up.

Will Toby work faster now that he has a moral obligation to finish the game we've already paid for?

>>529502995
He would reveal information that isn't directly plot related but is still important for understanding the story, like Kris pre-adoption origins

>>529506896
(laughs)

if you had a frisk (game accurate, not one of those weird white skinned anime girls with golden eyes who pretends to be frisk) what would you do with it

>>529507012
Like a full-size person? or like mini?

>>529507012
Rent out as diplomat

>>529507012
Saving and loading

>>529506896
Toby said $25 is for chapters 1-4. You haven't paid for 4-8.

>>529506864
It fits very well though, I'm having a hard time arguing it

Darkner farts and gets bored/has no place in the Dark World = Stoned
Noelle sneezes = Frozen
Now, start a Dark Fountain inside a Dark World? = Dark Fountain that is immediately Stoned
Stoned Dark Fountain = Titans Roaring
FROZEN Dark Fountain = ????

>>529506896
Toby might work faster. but the real developer, Dr. W.D. Gaster?

>>529507420
Angel

>>529507105
full size frisk is already mini as is

TPCi just called Toby, I'm afraid chapter 5 is going to be delayed...

>Fan-chapter 5 video
>Drops lesbiaslop in your face
I need to apologize to Toby.

>>529496972
You'll get a lot of wrong answers to this question but the game actually somewhat answers it if you're not retarded.

Kris is doing it all because he wants GLORY. kris wants to be a BIG SHOT and working with the knight gets him that.

>>529507816
For what? This is his fault

>>529507880
*sick Toby tunes plays as pink and gold glasses land in place on Kris's face*

>>529505869
>You're about to be killed by a zamboni

https://deltarune.com/windows/

Is the trick that none of the windows are correct and you need to manually input the right order of words in the URL?

>>529498040
>after pouring over videos of an entirely different game for 5 hours.
Imagine if you put this much effort into analyzing the actual game, you might actually come to the right conclusion

>>529508040
egg

Giygas was a mistake

>>529505841
Yall so scared to fap at actual (child) Chara, so you're looking for her adult version? Pathetic

>>529507983
that’s for the figure but what the hell it’s funny

>>529508212
Giygas is good with the context of Mother 1 but everyone skips that one

>>529508229
Story can be rewritten, play deltarune.

>>529508040
One window is correct, but you have to check each manually. It leads to the ROOTS page

Leaked Chapter 7 scene from Weird Route
The more I spend time in DR fanbase the more I feel like many people in it REALLY need to hear this.

>>529508040
I tried "wherewouldthelostforestgrow" its valid, but it goes to the same dog.

GOOD MORNING!
[Hyperlink Blocked] YOUR TV!

>>529508506
normal words, but a heart guy!

>>529508415
Finally chara cute butt

>>529508040
One window is different, it has the symbol of an egg

>>529508487
>you have to check each manually
No. Look for the egg

>>529508040
It's "lostwheretheforestwouldgrow" btw

>>529496548
KEK

>>529508793
Or just. Hover over them to see the hyperlink? The "egg" is fine but most people aren't going to notice that in a set of what? 32 windows?

>>529508506
In the ending Chara will appear again and they will admit it's their fault, this time toby will make you understand it was always Chara's fault.

Chara is FRIEND.

>>529508803
>>529508756
thank ya

>>529509002
>>529509040
(Chara) isn't REAL. SHUT UP

>>529508935
when I check the pictures it's like I'm really playing chapter 4 of the critically acclaimed indie hit "DELTARUNE"

>>529508040
Interesting

>>529505869

Wasn't Rudy an ice skater ?

Alright, Kre/ss/ writer here, I've just finished rewriting the greens I did into normal prose and even continued it into proper smut territory.
https://rentry.org/p25gn24b
This is actually the first time I've ever written outright porn, so I hope it's up to par.

>>529506995
I'm curious if you abort Snowgrave on chapter 4, will Noelle still be all over Kris in the festival and be trying to go back in for the kiss, or will she just revert to liking Susie and pretend none of it all happened?

>>529509040
inside me

seems like a dead end from here, clicking the three just brings you back to the windows page, and the source doesn't reveal anything of note

What if Homelander was in Deltarune?

>>529509270
beaten down by Susie instantly

>>529509270
> * (The computer's wallpaper is a rotating slideshow of nature images.)
> * (... and, rarely, an image of two buff superheroes embracing, blushing.)
Alphys would get right on that

>>529508506
Bojack did nothing wrong, the writers went full retard just because Weinstein said he liked the show

>>529509270
>Well, well, well… look at this little band of misfits. The Fun Gang, is it? So full of hope, so full of… heart. You kids think you’re out here saving the world, don’t you? Playing heroes in your cute little adventure, skipping through fountains and dark worlds like it’s all some grand game. You trust each other, don’t you?
*AHEM*
>Susie, with your tough girl act, swinging that axe like you’ve got it all figured out. Ralsei, oh, sweet Ralsei, with your fluffy ideals and your dreams of balance. And Kris… quiet, mysterious Kris. The leader. The one thinking that he is pulling the strings. You all think you know each other, don’t you? Think you’re all on the same side?
*chuckles*
>Oh, how precious. But here’s the thing about trust… it’s fragile. So easily shattered when the truth comes out. And the truth? It’s a nasty little thing, isn’t it, Kris?
*pause, smirk*
>So, Kris... Why don’t you tell them that you’re working with The Knight?

He'd be pretty fucking brutal

The weird route can't be the original prophecy

>>529509247
you're not very good at solving these kinds of mysteries huh lol

>>529509552
inaccurate, not enough shots of his dick (also you sound like a redditor who watches rick and morty)

>>529509247
if you click it once you hear a single piano note, and the tab text for the windows page is 'Aren't you forgetting something?'
between that and "lost where the forest would grow' it seems like the point is someone or something forgotten was buried beneath that tree, and a forest grew on that spot
remember also that you find the ice key in sword route by carving a path through a forest

>>529509148
very nice

>>529497613
why do you think the battle theme is called Rude buster
why do you think chapter 3 knight fight is entirely susie monologuing while the only and obvious strategy is having everyone keep susie as alive as possible while she deals all the damage
why do you think gerson gets most emotive during the fight when susie suggests kris is the main character

this game is 100% her story, kris is just part of it

>>529505869
Dess drowned after skating on thin ice and Kris watched her die

>>529509552
You forgot the part where, as much shit as he talks, he eventually loses his shit and gets trounced because the SOUL can simply save and load until the fun gang wins the fight.
Also Noelle's snowgrave might be able to kill or seriously wound him, I dunno.

>>529509621
>>529509660
I had my machine on mute

>>529505229
Murderer

>>529509247
when you go back to the window room through there, all the urls are different. go back to the 'correct' window and the url in the link is now thepoorchildren

>>529508930
Cute knight, but what the hell is that in top right??

>>529509552
would he laser berdly's dick off?

>>529509660
If you try to do mantle game 2 without the ice key the door says "aren't you forgetting something important?"
Noelle talks about exploring the forest as kids:
> * ... don't you miss exploring, Kris?
> * Back when the four of us were kids?
> * Gosh, remember that night we explored the forest behind the graveyard?
> * Ha, I know we never found anything interesting back there...
> * I mostly remember... Crying because I was scared.
The URLs are part of a scrambled message from the game which unscrambled probably says "Lost where the forest would grow, the children followed the pointed tail."