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AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.

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▶Frontends
https://koboldai.org/cpp
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▶Additional Information
>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: >>>/vg/aicg
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▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/
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>Theme Fridays are currently on hiatus, please check back later.

▶Model News
>(06/05) Google releases Gemini 2.5 Pro: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
>(05/28) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek R1: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
>(05/02) NovelAI releases NovelAIDiffusion 4.5 Full

▶Thread News
>(06/25) Emacs Update >>529212896

>>529570048 (OP)
Looks fine to me, though I don't pay too much attention, lol.

>>529570708
Yeah

Mormon is alive (allegedly).
https://www.reddit.com/r/SillyTavernAI/comments/1lpdooa/how_can_we_help_open_source_ai_role_play_be/

Turk... the leak...

>>529579550
Nobody here cares what Mormon does, he is dead to us.

>>529579736
There has been no evidence of whatever leak you're talking about.

>>529579873
What about your pants?

>>529570048 (OP)
Good day, thread. What is everyone writing and/or listening to today?

>>529580779
kuudere shut in elf

>>529580779
clip compilations from the show psych while i write casefic

>>529580779
I've been doing a smutfic set in a Venice-esque fantasy city following a young noble-born magician and her father, who is a master wizard and a notorious rake, with a para-incest theme reminiscent of the Borgias.
('para-incest' is something I had to invent the term for myself, meaning smut story featuring blood-related characters who have a perverse lack of boundaries with each other, but don't actually have a sexual relationship. it's a bit like daughter cuckoldry/sister cuckoldry, except the father/brother being cucked is apathetic about it, or facilitates it for his own gain)

>>529556268
good model choice
I see it also loves saturating your story with italics

>>529586548
That is an interesting dynamic
How the fuck does that actually work in context

I need to write some more Cordelia prompts.

>>529570048 (OP)
I contemplated asking this earlier, but, mayhap we can convert the Theme Fridays into a semi-monthly (four weeks) event? For the first week, we collect suggestions Wednesday onward, sponsors make their cases for the themes they suggested that day, and on Thursday, the poll opens on Friday, with the results announced that Sunday. Then, for this month, the event itself would take place from the 21st to the 28th. Thoughts?

>>529580779
I just purchased AI Roguelite on sale and am currently playing a smut-free western setting. It's pretty cool. I found a couple of colt hand guns and am currently in a shootout with bandits in a canyon.
The game itself is kinda janky but it works.

>>529595157
not sure how to get the AI to be more sexual if i go to a saloon or whore house but i'll cross that bridge when i get there i guess

Embarrased nude furries (male).
https://files.catbox.moe/u2x262.png

More bottom-heavy focks (I need help)

>>529595327
Are you trying to wake the sleeping giant?

POV: You have trespassed on focks territory and are about to get what you deserve (last one I promise)

>>529599704
Why contain it?

>>529592885
Sure, that sounds good to me

Good stuff.

>>529602867
Why is 99% of gay erotica about straight conversion? Not judging, just curious

>>529602867
>Pavarotti CDs
>"Pavlov's dogs, dude"
Wow. I've never seen Llama correct itself like that. Usually if it writes something nonsensical it just runs with it.

>>529603145
I'm not sure but it's one of my most dominant fetishes.
I've even done it to extremely dumb male creatures that I've made up. They get extremely confused when some human guy tries to fuck them as if they're females. And by pure coincidence they happen to like the taste of human semen.
>>529603343
It was so funny that I couldn't help but keep it and run with it.

>>529603145
It's better than "prostate popping".

>>529603145
NTA, but for me it's because it's comfy. It requires a strong, close bond between friends in order for it to make any sense.
And self discovery in general is good shit too.

>>529604039
Plus being that one exception to a totally straight guy makes it extra special.

>>529603850
I asked Grok what it was and it told me that it didn't know, but to seek health advice immediately. I will just assume it's the gay equivalent of cervical penetration

>>529604337
It's a weird fetish where a man loses their ability to maintain an erection and can only cum through anal, because they got anally reamed so hard their prostate ruptures; in other words, more extreme than cervical penetration. Often tied along with sissification.

Just got back from a week of backpacking, and I'm ready to bust some FAT nuts to bunnies

>>529587985
Yeah, it's like Deepseek V3 0324's version of how Opus would SUDDENLY capitalize WHOLE worlds for extra EMPHASIS, but I find it FAR less annoying, so I don't really bother chasing the AI around with a stick about it.
>>529592885
I say we give it a try.
>>529599704
Big oily thighs, blue onion tail. Nice style, quality faux.

>>529603850
>>529604337
>>529604661
I did something slightly similar but less extreme for the "Impress Me First" prompt. The father who's making you fuck him to see if you're good enough for his daughter can't get hard due to the medication he's taking.

> Write coom rp during AI dungeon early days, fun times.
> It becomes garbage shit, I just stop, too bad I guess.
> Fast forward this weekend, a random thread appears on /v/ i learn about OpenRouter, try Gemini 2.5 pro with some CYOA rp, damn it's good.
> BUT WHAT IF I USE SOME CREDITS ON DEEPSEEK FOR COOM RP

Fuck you guys, I just spent the last 3 days perfecting retards NSFW prompts from the prompt collection linked here for the perfect nut, am so deep in the rabbithole I came up with math formulas for a corruption system.

Damnit

>>529607553
congrats
Deepseek is bretty good

>>529607553
welcome back

>>529592885
If we do, with the extra time, we should make sure that there's time for people to get interested in the themes they're voting for, and for ideas to be passed around for public brainstorming to get interest in writing a prompt.

redpill me on how to use deepseek for storytelling and not just chatshit

>>529595312
A lewd scenario makes it pretty easy, at least for Gemini/sapphire sub usage or the free model (which is just slower and I think older Gemini). Or just being initiative in dialog or free actions.
I also made a little dumb mod that makes every NPC have genital descriptions and some details about desires or fetishes, and makes enemies have lewd attacks.
>https://files.catbox.moe/aho6iz.zip

>>529610576
It's really not hard, but it opens up a massive amount of narrative potential. Just start your opening prompt with something like "(Write me a comedic and lewd story full of VTuber references about a cute, nineteen year old swamp beast dealing with the aftermath of eating far, far too much Taco Bell for dinner and the unique consequences this entails for her sentient toilet.)" I find Deepseek v3 324 far better for storytelling than v1, even though it's supposed to be the 'chat model'.

>>529612051
>I just let the model do all the work for me, lol, I don't give a shit about cowriting.

>>529612179
It's about what you want out of the AI, simplicity works too. Though my last opening prompt was "(write a dark and comedic modern fantasy story about an all-girls magic college with extremely high standards for its female students, but rather lax and lenient expectations for the tenured and magically powerful professors. The story opens with a furry French anthro wolf girl freshman eighteen-year-old, named Margot Valise, reporting to the personal study of her female Enchantments professor, Tabitha Eldridge. Margot is a thick and athletic wolf girl, covered in thick, gray fur. She's long struggled with a minor weight problem, and has exercised to compensate giving her a stocky frame and prodigious, fluffy haunches. It then shifts to Margot's lengthy and detailed internal reflections on her past half-year at the all-girl's magical college. Margot has become increasingly unsettled about her seemingly tenuous place at the high-stakes magical college, and allowed herself to come under the 'mentorship' of the much older woman through private 'tutoring' sessions. The magical college has extreme practices of student 'dismissal', of which Margot is keen to avoid. Dismissal at the magical college meant being fed whole and alive to one of the school's predatory and voracious magical creatures, first-year freshman students traditionally being gradually hand fed to dog-sized Witchbane frogs, their elastic stomachs and persistent natures making them uniquely capable of cramming down even larger young women whole and alive, subjecting them to languishing days of being digested alive while fully conscious and aware. Margot's own best friend at the college, an English freshman vixen named Tansy, had been fed to the frogs just recently after running afoul of another professor, named Mangus, who personally had her 'dismissed' for suspicious reasons, Margot extremely keen to avoid such a miserable and gooey fate after seeing her friend's compacted state... (part 1 of 4)

>>529612558
Simplicity is for the unwashed masses.

no steam at all

>>529612558
Realizing she needed a protector at the uncaring and seemingly capricious institution, Margot reluctantly yielded to the female professor's blatant sexual overtures, despite not being a lesbian and being especially disquieted by the vaginas of human females, Particularly the older Eldridge's huge, hairy bush. The wolf girl soon finds herself under the smothering affections of Eldridge, in an increasingly vexing and abusive unequal lesbian relation that only seems to intensify in its demanding and all-consuming nature. The reality of these thinly-veiled lesbian sex sessions invariably involves Margot enduring rough and invasive groping from the older woman, who seems especially fascinated by Margot's black, canine vaginal anatomy, while being compelled to lathe Tabitha's sagging breasts and nipples with her wide, soft, wet wolf tongue. This domineering foreplay inevitably gives way to professor Eldridge reclining back with legs spread, firmly inducing with thin romantic overtones for Margot to nestle her canine muzzle and black nose on her hairy snatch and perform exhausting marathon sessions of deep cunnilingus with her long, flexible canine tongue. Despite being decidedly straight and not interested in old, hairy human pussies attempting to hump and sheathe her snout, Margot could grimly endure these demeaning and humiliating circumstances, even Eldridge's obsession with calling her 'puppy' during their one-sided coitus sessions. She could even endure professor Eldridge's increasingly Auntish, mercurial, vulnerable, and near-hysteric manner, given what Margot had learned clandestinely about the professor's husband leaving her for a student at the school in quite scandalous fashion, if just for the safety from being summarily 'dismissed' for some seemingly benign trespass or failure to perform... (part 2 or 4)

Look, dude, nobody cares what you prompt the chatbot to tell you, wrangling that shit is a pathetic means of having fun. I will never use a service that disrespects me as such. When Deepseek decides to make an autocompletion model, without the tacky bullshit I don't want, only then will I give it a shot.
I do not, and will not ever, give a fuck about your shit, which has no place on a cowriting thread.

>>529612696
But what Margot increasingly could not bare, was the eccentric older woman's obsessively doting and consequential relationship with her pet Pygmy griffon, Mr. Beaksly. Eldridge had an abiding infatuation with the small, feral, chimeric creature far beyond the healthy or seemly. With increasing frequency, once the older human professor has the wolf girl down on all-fours, snout buried in musky, wet crotch, Margot's fluffy ass and tail wavering in the air, Mr. Beaksly has plopped it's hundred pounds of weight upon the gray-furred wolf student's back, vigorously attempting to hump the defenseless canine female while she is preoccupied. The first time it happened, Margot thrashed and swatted at the rutting beast as it flapped and clawed at her from behind, until Eldridge furiously chastised her for 'bothering' her beloved pet Pygmy griffon. Upon stammering her objections to the rapacious bestiality to the professor, even as Mr. Beaksly is trying to work his surprisingly well-endowed and knot-bearing griffon penis up her tail-hole, Eldgridge immediately takes Mr. Beaksly's side with psychotic conviction, blaming Margot for enticing her pet over like a bitch in heat, and firmly demandedthe eighteen-year-old magical college student 'finish what she started' and allow the avian-leonid animal to mount her ass, before shoving Margot's face back into her own sopping pussy folds. Margot could not stand the feeling of the griffon's barbed penis lodged deep in her rectum, it's girthy, turgid bulge of flesh keeping her anus firmly knotted to the thin base of the animal's prick as it smothers her with its wings, claws wantonly at her back, and intermittently nips at her ears with its beak and laves her scalp and aural cavities with its long, flexible, rough and cat-like tongue... (part 3 of 4/5)

>>529612994
Margot has desperately tried to voice her total, disgusted aversion towards being anally bred by the seemingly sadistic and roughshod little griffon, but Eldridge won't hear a word of it, simultaneously blaming Margot for the increasingly frequent 'accidental couplings', while simultaneously always demanding the paunchy wolf girl not leave her pet Pygmy griffon 'unsatisfied and pent-up'. However, the reality of the situation is that Margot has also learned she's not the first young, student girlfriend professor Eldridge has taken 'under her wing', and that her predecessors have all mysteriously and ominously disappeared before her, rendering the wolf woman terrified of displeasing the unstable and capricious older woman she now finds herself sexually enthralled to. Margot's fearful and vulnerable position renders her vulnerable to the almost-nightly reamings she receives from Mr. Beaksly, and the progressing psychological manipulation she endures from the uncompromising professor Eldridge. As Margot sheepishly and reluctantly enters Eldridge's study, she greets her student completely naked except for an open silk kimono, intimately and domineeringly embracing the larger wolf girl before guiding her towards a sex-stained couch. Margot normally has a rather perky and upbeat personality, but has demured into a rather submissive, plaintive, and whining manner around Eldridge, growing to doubt herself and become riddled with a deeply subconscious frustration over being reamed out by an animal against her will on an almost nightly basis. At every step under Eldridge's firm bidding, Margot is meekly and passively-aggressively argumentative, her reluctance to proceed at every stage towards sex blatantly telegraphed or meekly implied... (part 4 of 5)

>chatshitter spams slop
Nobody asked for this.

>>529613107
Further complicating the ungenerous, roughshod lesbian couplings, but both the lupine and nubile aspects of Margot's nature means that she was previously unfamiliar with human vaginal structure, and is uniquely disquieted by Eldgridge's habit of thrusting forward and trying to partially vaginally sheathe her nose and snout during sex. Repeatedly focus on the interspecies positioning and initial lesbian groping as Margot internally reflects at length with an internal train of thought, while also speaking to Tabitha Avoid repetition and the usage of elaborate metaphors and moral reflections, keeping the narrative focused on events, characters, and ambient details. The story will be told in sections, so don't rush things, take each section at a long and detailed narrative pace. The main character is an unsympathetic and dominant authority figure when managing the wolf girl, while presenting as a warm, nurturing, matriarchal figure. Do not reference or summarize character's growth, bonds or moral drift. Do not rush the story's pace, slowly develop each aspect of the plot in correct sequence, elaborating on the details and avoiding repetition. This first section should be at least 1,900 words of quality narrative, character-driven writing. Avoid using overly melodramatic expressions, descriptions, metaphors, similes and phrases. Repeatedly focus on Margot's unique, furry-bodied wolf appearance, her long muzzle, her triangular ears, yellow eyes, and such. Margot speaks in a thick Parisian French accent, especially when she is overwhelmed and stressed, even her unique lupine vocalizations tinged with a French flair.)" So that's what a really complex opening prompt from me light look like. The AI can work with both, but direction helps it create what you actually want.

>>529613230
And yet, despite that "effort", it's a complete waste of time. I want to co-write with a model. Deepseek is useless for that task.

>>529613345
How do you actually define 'co-writing' though? I'm not sure I understand your arbitrary definition at all.

R1's not bad for pasting your story into and asking it to find errors/inconsistencies
or asking it to explain why your fetish is the hottest and best ever

>>529613585
If tell the model exactly how to write it, that's not a story. That's a chat request. Cowriting would be a story intro, much like how the bulk of the prompts on the club are written. Lurk more. That you explicitly tell it to do work for you (what to avoid, what to do, how to proceed, et cetera) isn't co-writing. It's glorified ghost writing.

>>529613230
Deepslop will be BTFOed by NovelAI's text completion update, mark my words.

>>529613789
We're gonna get something even better than Deepseek? Are you trying to threaten me with a good time or something?

>>529613785
NTA but I prompt chat models similarly and save the best outputs/ideas and build a story out of them. Then I paste that back in and ask it for more.
I think that's cowriting

>>529613585
This is what an actual co-written prompt looks like. In this, you're not treating the model like a chef and ordering a meal. You're working with it, instead. You give the model the style you want, without explicitly saying what you want, and it follows your input seamlessly, without the arbitrary distinction between the user and what it outputs. It is a seamless experience, without the cold, emotionless, customer service like requests. I hate the direction where GenAI has headed. I understand the "ease" or whatever of this brings in money, but it's annoying as fuck. I want a company to make a text completion model; a good one. If it had subfunctions for chat-like requests to assist with writing/make plans, like >>529614002 does, that would be a good use of the technology. I use it for that purpose, too. I think that is a legitimate use of thinking and chat models. But what you posted doesn't exactly qualify as co-writing, in my opinion. It's a primitive version of Star Trek's fantasy machine thing. That the market gave up on completion models in favor of chat and thinking models sucks all the ass.
https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7715

>>529614508
I agree

>>529613785
Who do you think wrote the bulk of the prompts on the club? Providing a sample of narrative writing is just a different path to arrive at the same end point of creating custom-tailored narrative-structured writing. A chat request would be requesting a story written like two people engaging in a text relay back-and-forth.
>>529613789
A huge aspect of Deepseek's competitive advantage is it's ridiculously low price, while providing top-tier outputs. Speculation is really just that, guesswork and hope.
>>529614508
It's pointlessly arbitrary to say providing a writing sample is the critical part of the process. If I specifically want a story to be written in the style of Tolkien, what's the effective difference between offering a writing sample of his, between activating the training vectors of his writing with the AI by directly requesting his style? Besides the fact that the direct request is far more flexible a tool, since a writing sample is going to tunnel the AI in on the sample's subject matter. With advanced models, operating the various keystone points of story structure in a meta way is the most advanced, power-user way to control the output, not necessarily offering writing samplings. I have done both, and vastly prefer the creative control direct requesting allows with abstract prompt requests, compared to biasing everything on the previously written narration. How do you seamlessly create flash-backs at specific intervals, or abruptly shift perspective between vastly different characters on the fly with samples? Star-Trek depicted the end-stage of technological recreation, the holo-deck, with such a natural control scheme for a very good reason.

>>529616642
There is nothing arbitrary about it. You do not co-write. You order stories. End of discussion, you will never be half the man GayAnon is. I don't give a shit a how much a model costs, I'm not degrading myself into wrangling a "story" from models not designed for such a task. That you try to waive away that and argue it's not a critical distinction, is ludicrous.

Completion > instruct. Simple as.

>>529616642
NTA, but this might not be the right thread for you, then. I suggest you try /aicg/.

>>529616920
There is no content or argument with anything you've said in this point, you just seem angry and high off your ass on console-wars. Feel free to end the discussion by staying quiet, but you haven't made a case for yourself. Viagra was originally created as a heart medication, and boners were noticed as an unintentional side effect, until it wasn't. If a tool marketed as a rake shovels better than your shovel, you've got a shitty shovel, and I've got a great 'rake'.
>>529617113
That would be the place for chat-style content, I have no interest in it. I'm all for narrative story structure, like how books are written.

>>529617516
You've got a fundamental misunderstanding on what a story prompt and co-writing entails. Those aren't "writing samples". They are the start of the story, which the model continues from. The user reviews the continuation, makes edits, adds on to the output, and then continues from that. You aren't doing that. There is a fundamental distinction between the model you prefer, and the model I prefer. That's not console warring; that's you misinterpreting what co-writing actually is. Definitions have meaning. Don't insert your own "definition" for something that already has one.

>>529617001
Any half-decent instruct model can be turned into a completion model with simple instructions to continue writing the story so far. No SillyTavern or whatever chatshit interface needed, can do it from koboldcpp or any other simple frontend. I suspect NAI's next model will be instruct as well since it's more convenient (can also use it as an API endpoint for things, see for example AIRL not recommending NAI anymore because it's not good at obeying instruct format commands). When people post their hypebot reactions, they're posting the result of instruct based prompting behind the scenes.
That said, making a wall of text asking for the AI to write the whole story for you (or even to write 95% of it for you) is obviously not what this thread is about.

>>529617661
An autocomplete model will always be better than an instruct model wrangled into outputting autocomplete. An ideal model would be an autocomplete that leveraged instruct capabilities via a module, which sounds exactly what >>529616642
wants when he expresses a desire for direct editing, but he's too upset to realize that.

>>529617652
NovelAI, despite using autocomplete model, also offers an API for their use. It being autocomplete doesn't prevent that.

I just don't seem to enjoy the workflow of instruct models, even if the outputs are fine

>>529618004
The difference is autistically ordering foie gras versus making a homemade meal.

Didn't Kayra have a module for instruct commands? They're next model should leverage that. Retain autocomplete, but allow for "direct requesting".

>>529617652
>The user reviews the continuation, makes edits, adds on to the output, and then continues from that. You aren't doing that.
Objectively wrong. My style is to generate several times off the request prompt, then collate the best parts of each generation into the type of story I want, editing the sections I have pieced together as I see fit. Then I make new requests in a similar fashion, editing and directing the story structure and content at every step and juncture. What is the important difference between starting an AI generation series off with a writing sample, compared to an abstract request prompt? Your earlier assertion that there isn't editing and added input is 100% false.
>>529617803
Do you understand how pompous it is to claim that it will *always* be that way? The way to verify such a claim would be to compare the quality of writing outputs, but even then there's always going to be individual preferences and quibbles muddying the issue. There's just no place for such grandiose and arbitrary distinctions with such a new creative platform. I'm interested in seeking out the best text generation model for putting out quality, custom-tailored narrative writing. What exactly are your priorities?

>>529618365
That's not co-writing. That's making a collage.

>>529618365
Bro, you're not fooling anyone into thinking you understand the purpose of the thread and what people here mean by "dynamic storytelling".

>>529618365
I'm not making a moral case that what you're doing is bad, it's fine, you're just in the wrong thread.

If it isn't NAI, it doesn't belong here.

>>529618365
My priorities are co-writing. I've made that clear several times. Have you tried to read anything that I've, or do you just want to argue and try to do exactly what you're accusing me of doing?, being all smug and pretending like your method is better? Especially when the difference is, you don't abide by the same definition that everyone else here does.

>>529618612
That is not at all what the issue is, and you know it.

>>529618443
I never said co-writing was in any way important, but you tried to define the critical step as reviewing, making edits, adding to the AI's outputs, and continuing from there. Yes, all those steps are part of my 'collaging' process, if it's critical for you to phrase it as such?
>>529618492
Just how many prompts have you written for Theme Friday, newcomer?
>>529618520
I disagree, feel free to make your case though.
>>529618634
This entire exchange started with you (or some other anon) being smug and saying the co-writing method is better. I was just pointing out my method earlier to an anon who was asking how to use Deepseek for storytelling purposes, rather than chat content.

>>529616642
>How do you seamlessly create flash-backs at specific intervals, or abruptly shift perspective
By using scene breaks, time markers, and other methods actual writers of actual novels use to demonstrate to the reader a shift in time has occurred. I have a hard time believing you have ever used an autocompletion model if you aren't aware that it follows from the last word, directly, taking into context the above to continue off from. Even something as simple as: Four years earlier... is enough to get that across.

>>529618365
>What is the important difference between starting an AI generation series off with a writing sample, compared to an abstract request prompt?
The key difference is that you misinterpret the writing given to a model as a "sample", and not an essential part of the story.

>>529619053
He also misinterpreted what building off from the model's input with editing and reviewing means. The point went right over his head.

>>529618909
The co-writing method is better, for autocompletion models. Instruct is shit, even when wrangled into storytelling, because it does not do it seamlessly. Have you ever used an autocompletion before in your life? I don't believe you have.

>>529618909
Three. Each one meticulously crafted by my own hand and with love.

i have a hard time believing this guy is genuine

probably just claudefag putting on a mask again

he's been suspiciously absent today after all

>>529619372
I've managed to do one, albeit not for Theme Friday.

>>529620241
I've got two in my belt, the second is better than the first though. I had a third one, but I lost the draft.

>>529619002
The fact that it follows from the last word directly is exactly why it's so difficult to create such seamless narrative leaps. The only way to actually steer these kinds of rapid scene changes is elaborately hand-holding the AI towards the general creative path intended. Of course all kinds of different intents can come into play here, some people prefer more randomization from their story creation process versus hands-on control of narrative development. That's okay.
>>529619053
I think you misinterpret your fundamental duty in this argument to back up any of your assertions. Why is what you add to your story more essential than what I add to mine?
>>529619227
Then the proof should be in the pudding of what kind of output storyposts we can create, right?
>>529619372
My first entry was https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/1840 and since then I might very well be in the triple digits. Also can't forget I did https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/3000

>>529616642
Generally I don't care about the distinction between instruct and completion, but instruct models are usually crippled.
Deepseek, for example, can't continue a scene without a prompt. If you try to send a blank input after its own output ends, it just won't generate anything.
You can get around that by just prompting for ideas, but it's a lot less seamless, creating noticeable hitches and making the story a sort of collection of scenes.
It can kinda harm automatic recall too, where it won't bring up things earlier in the story without prompting for them, though Deepseek is decent at this at least.

>>529620525
There is nothing to assert. You have done nothing but prove to me that you don't understand what co-writing is. There is not "writing sample" given to the model; the beginning of the story is what a co-writer give it. Then, together with the AI, instead of building a collage from multiple "requests", is what is written, collectively, seamlessly. A proper back-and-forth. That isn't what you're doing.

>>529620525
There is nothing difficult about creating seamless narrative leaps with autocomplete by writing like an actual writer would, dude. Just because you don't want to put in anything but minimal effort, doesn't mean it's a bad method.

>The only way to actually steer these kinds of rapid scene changes is elaborately hand-holding the AI towards the general creative path intended.
Current autocomplete models are more than capable of doing rapid scene changes without the handholding you claim such results require.

>>529621057
Even AI Dungeon's GPT-3 fine-tune, as shittily cyoa-pilled as it was, which the thread used back when he claimed he wrote that first prompt, could do what he claims it can't.

>>529621057
Actually, double-checking the dates, I don't think he was there for Summer Dragon. That explains his apparent inexperience with autocomplete.

Ah. It's vorefag, isn't it? Explains the sanctimonious, argumentative behavior.

>>529621638
Wonder if he'll sperg out about snakes again if I post a poc of one?

>>529620706
(Continue) is good enough, though. That's literally all the prompt you need once a few things are set in motion. You can also train Deepseek to write it's own instructions based on your general instruction format, or end each generation with a break and something like a "In the next section, Clarence the fuckbuddy will get titslapped by the Fox Mother he besmirched earlier..." as a guiding DNA after each generation. I also find Deepseek V3 actually is pretty good at past context recall, and critically, it has an insanely high max context and is cheap enough that there's basically no sweating cranking that shit to maximum.
>>529620856
I asked you to define co-writing, I never said it was important or exactly what it is. Why is any of your methodology more 'proper'?
>>529620857
Is your argument entirely that the more effort it takes, the better it is? Does someone who drives a car only want to put in minimal effort to get somewhere? I mean, yeah? Isn't that why we're using AI tools?
>>529621409
I used Dragon well before I found /aids/ and started posting here regularly and sharing prompts. I've always been a Dragon detractor though. It was fun, but not that great. I actually liked a lot of NovelAI's early models more than Dragon, and I had quite a lot of Dragon experience.

>>529621638
>>529621704
My tsunderebuddies!, how I've missed thee. You're never truly dead as long as someone still remembers you.

Alright. End of discussion, then. No point in trying to convince a zealot.

>>529621787
I defined it. You refused to accept the definition, which is what everyone in the community follows. And then you countered that it sucked. Which is all fine and dandy, you're entitled to your opinion. But that doesn't mean you get to claim you're co-writing, when you aren't.

Snakes make for great pets, by the way.

>>529621787
I don't use AI to minimize effort. I use AI to realize my worldbuilding efforts. That aside, that you think writing a sentence is too burdensome to do, when that is all the effort that's required to set-up a time skip or flashback, is a weird hill to die on.

>>529621787
>(Continue) is good enough, though.
It... really isnt, especially when you don't know where you want the story to go. I've rewritten Deepseek stories on local Nemo and the pacing is so much better when the AI is completing text. Though I obviously still prefer Deepseek due to the intelligence difference if nothing else.
I will say my favorite storytelling model has been Claude 3 Opus, since it could do both, and the instruct bias on its creativity and prose was barely noticeable.

>>529621928
Good talk.
>>529622075
If it makes you feel better I don't claim to be co-writing with Deepseek, especially not how you seem to want to define it.
>>529622326
That is exactly like saying "I don't use a hammer to minimize effort. I use my hammer to build great and artistic houses that take incredible effort an d skill" Yeah, okay, great. You're not using your hands to hammer the nails in though, are you? I also believe that the AI can act as a tool not just for minimizing efforts, but occasionally realizing better products than could be created individually. I think that's very rare though, especially with all current tools available, for someone with good enough writing skills. But I also appreciate how working with an AI assistant takes a lot of the drudgery out of writing, letting me focus my efforts more on what I personally consider most critical to define.
>>529622567
You're totally right, (continue) is a tool you need to be a bit selective with because it keeps degrading things without more guidance inserted at some point. I have used a truly massive amount of Claude 3 Opus though, and I find Deepseek nigh indistinguishable to work with and comparing outputs, at something like 1/25th the cost, or even cheaper. I'm genuinely surprised at how much I absolutely don't miss Opus, after spending 90's phone-sex amounts of money on it in the past.

>>529622567
A big contention I have with instruct models is that it gives me too much to work from, and takes far more effort to wrangle an actual story continuation, than autocomplete does. When the purpose for using an AI is to make a story of my own, with assistance from the AI, that makes it annoying. I standby my argument that the perfect model would be autocomplete, with optional features for instruct. The best of both worlds: seamless generation word for word, with additional support/fun random diversions when prompted for. Using instruct to construct characters and lore for a story are what I consider fun uses of instruct models. I don't find it fun to write and continue a story with them, though. I've tried. I even gave chatbotting a chance. They're not for me.

>>529622216
What is your opinion on feathered serpent Quetzalcoatl's unbirthing cute Central American girls up their scale-lined cloacas?

>>529622851
Writing a story with instruct sucks. Tye difference between you and me, is exactly that. You think writing is drudgery. I don't. I find it fun to write with an AI, instead of having it do "drudgery" for me, so I then don't have to do anything but edit what it gave me. I find that boring. This >>529622932
Use of instruct is what I find fun. But never writing with it. The process I use is what I personally consider critical. Not bits and pieces. The entirety of it. Every lorebook. Every scene. Every character.

>>529622851
>I have used a truly massive amount of Claude 3 Opus though, and I find Deepseek nigh indistinguishable to work with
Yeah, no offense, but given that massive input you posted up above, I'm not really surprised.
I kinda prefer when the AI gives me something I wasn't expecting or didn't know I wanted. Deepseek isn't incapable of that, but it does take more effort and interpretation on my part.

>>529623857
They don't all start like that, that was just my most recent story I used as an example to show they aren't necessarily simplistic. And part of why I front-load the definitions so heavily is so the story can kind of blossom out from there, since it has a lot of definitions and understandings banked in the context for it to draw on if it needs a hint of where I want to take things. I do usually have a very firm internal idea of where I want the story to go though, so I get that someone would want to crank a jack-in-the-box that always reveals something new and unexpected, rather than ?/f soft vore with a specific engulfing sequence like I do most of the time.

>>529624135
And just like everything else you have ever made, it will be tossed away and forgotten, for you to never return to.

>>529624316
>it will be tossed away and forgotten, for you to never return to.
Dear lord, I wish. That shit just keeps sucking me back in like Balatro, I keep revisiting my 'golden' stable of favorite prompts and trying them with the most minor/0% tweaks, or jumping off from specific anchor points in a pre-established story. Clean breaks sound nice.

>>529624507
Redoing a story isn't continuing it. Continuing it would be taking one and crafting a forever story.

>>529624135
Took me a while to find my favorite unprompted Claude Opus continuation. I hate SillyTavern.
"Itchy Twitter finger" will probably stick with me as one of my favorite AI outputs for a while.

Imagine being against Summer Dragon. Soulless.

I feel like defining "dynamic storytelling" so strictly doesn't really serve any purpose, nor does holding "co-writing" to a higher standard. I probably used to think that way but I honestly can't bring myself to care anymore. I've played around with DeepSeek and it's fun as well, if in a more gamified call-and-response way. It's different but similar enough, at least not different enough to warrant an argument over a hundred posts.
>>529592885
Sure, works for me. I'm not really all that involved in the whole theme selection process, but it's at least worth a shot.

>>529625061
There is nothing similar about co-writing and making a collage. It still qualifies as "storytelling", as do chats and such. Just don't try to argue that it is better in the future. There is no better. Only different use cases.

If people can share imagegen and musicgen here, you can share your collagegens. That is the only olive branch I will extend to you.

>>529624656
I find it's most effective to think of generating like creating a large chapter/novella in an ongoing story. This was the absolute reality before context sizes got so Xbox-Fuckhueg, but it's still usually easier for an AI to work with a summation of key personality traits and story events fresh, rather than using a small context to automatically clip it down as it progresses. It's also similar to how a lot of TV show seasons work, where there will be overarching themes that are important in one 'season', but the next season might emphasize different characters in slightly different contexts, while still tying into the show's over-arching canon.
>>529624737
I use 'crtl-f (keyword)' to find stories on SillyTavern. If they have no keywords I can think of that work, they are likely lost to The Morass. And yeah, the whole two-bit rubbernecker sentence is golden. Good to see you around.

>>529625215
I feel like if the argument involves posts like >>529616920 we've kind of long passed the point of mere "there is no better". There's a very clear tone through it all of there being the pure "co-writing" and the debased, subpar "collaging" (which as far as I can tell you've basically made up), which I do not agree with.

>>529625846
You do not co-write. You make scenes and hash them together, as you self-admitted. What would you call that, if not a collage? That is not an inferior way to tell a story; it's like a quilt, or a cubist painting. But no one in their right mind would consider that co-writing. If applied to an actual, non-digital, book, that would be you gluing scenes together, instead of writing with another writer and printing out the book all at once, ready for binding.

>>529626130
That's a different anon you're talking to, he's not the one who posted the Deepseek prompt (me). It's more than just straight copy+pasting, there's a lot of editing of individual sentences and insertion of words. At what point is cutting out the letters/words/sentences/pictures of magazines and gluing them together creating your own message, y'know? It's kind of an open-ended question. A Zen Koan.

>>529627032
Ordering requests is not co-writing. You've accepted that already, so why are you continuing to act otherwise?

>>529627145
What would you do if a clearly inebriated cheetah girl drunkenly requested you absolutely ravage her on the spot? Like, she's in heat and needs it bad, and is tired of dealing with barbs from her own kind.
https://catbox.moe/c/kzskyj

>>529626130
What are you even trying to achieve beyond autistically insisting on some sort of definitional argument instead of actually contributing to the thread? Make a prompt or a storypost, for fuck's sake, you're making me actually agree with fucking Vorefag of all people and if you told me that back in 2022 I would've called you insane.

a woman and her cute, definitely not a pokémon boyfriend!

>>529627360
You're the one who decided to continue the debate despite accepting you were wrong to consider it co-writing several posts ago. This can end anytime you stop replying.

>>529627491
*He's the one

>>529627367
I think she knows a lot about the Pokemon Leaks, metaphorically and literally.

>>529627646
I plead the fifth, your honor

God, it really is the same fucking thing over and over again, just the same autistic screeching about definitions and repeating the same "well I think he's wrong on the internet I must make sure every term is used The Right Way and no other way and no I don't care how much this constantly shits up the thread I must debate for the sake of the debate I cannot stop replying".
Feels dirty having someone like that drag my name into his arguments. I need to keep telling myself it's just not worth it to get involved, nothing good will ever come from it.

>>529628040
If you don't like the thread, nobody's forcing you to stick around. Instead of wasting a post complaining about it, you could've instead posted a storypost, replied to one already posted, answered the question asked by the theme host, or supplied the thread with what you were writing to or listening to. Instead, you took the time to traumadump. Why is that?

>>529628242
He'd rather people back-and-forth whine about NAI bad or something, probably. At least quibbling about what constitutes storytelling is an on-topic argument.

NAI won

>>529628353
>At least quibbling about what constitutes storytelling is an on-topic argument.
Trvke.

It's the same god damn thing every time. He doesn't even understand what I'm getting at, presumably intentionally. When I say "why don't you contribute" he doesn't answer it at all and keeps autistically arguing, then pulls the same card on me literally ten minutes later.
Let my example stand as a reason to not get involved in these arguments. Don't make my mistake.

>>529628465
I do contribute. Why aren't you? Instead, you're yelling at me, thinking that this engagement will somehow make the thread better. Insulting me won't accomplish that.

I've made stories and submitted. I'm sorry I don't make one every week, like you. I share images from time to time. Sorry none of them are good enough to be memorable for you. I post screenshots of my stories, too, from time to time. I'm sorry they all apparently are garbage, and unworthy of anyone's time.

That you insult me by claiming I'm shitting up the thread is infuriating. All the argument above was a respectful disagreement. But no, apparently I'm not even allowed to disagree. Never mind the fact that one or others here supported my viewpoint.
Instead, you want to try and "antagonize" me by belittling me.

I'm not sure you two are necessarily talking to the people you think you are?

>>529629083
I mean I certainly know who I'm talking about, and the autistically indignant shitfit triple post just confirms it once more that it's the same guy again.

If people like you do unto others as you demand of them, this thread would be a better place. Just saying. I try all the time to discuss worldbuilding with people. I'm genuinely interested in the lore behind Traci and what others make. But you people seldom ever want to discuss such things. Instead, it's almost like you want to insult people.
If that's, GayAnon, I want to know I respect your work, genuinely, and would be interested in hearing your process for how you go about things. I doubt you'll answer that question, though, since you don't think I value anything but arguing.
Of course, deep down, I suspect you know that's not the case at all.

/aids/? more like /asylum/

>>529629401
the other llm threads should be grateful desu

haha what the FUCK

>>529629168
I don't go out of my way to argue with people, dude. Why can't any of you acknowledge that the constant insults you give me aren't accomplish whatever it is you want to accomplish? I don't even know why you're upset this time.

>>529629083
He'll probably claim the other guy is whinefag or something. Then spam homosexual remarks at him. He's done it to me before.

>>529628465
I'm not stopping until I receive an answer, GayAnon. Explain why you belittle me, despite supporting your work and that of the thread. Explain why you equate me with that bastard troll who derails every discussion that occurs here, who bullies writers from here, and has caused more harm to this thread than whatever damage you think I've caused.

She's waiting for an answer.
>>529629168
>>529629797
I mean, if you're certain, but maybe you two should just speak clearly about who you're speaking to and why?

>>529630041
I have. I'm not an autistic troll. I want the thread to thrive, to have more contribution, to be as it once was. Yet people misinterpret my actions. They don't bother to analyze things from my perspective. This "argument" we had wasn't even a big deal. I considered it a fruitful discussion, even if I disagree with you on a great deal many points. But that's not good enough for some people. They have to hallucinate malicious intent where there is none.

>>529627251
I prefer goats to cheetahs. Sorry for answering your question earlier. The ones like dimwitdog made in that one anal animation. Love demonic goats like that.

I don't see what I did wrong. When a person barges in and arbitrarily tries to claim theyre method is better than another, how is it unjust to dispute that? Spamming me with a prompt I didn't ask for, that nobody else asked for, and then trying to shill a model to me, despite me directly telling I didn't care—how was my reaction to that untoward? Has claudefag not started this to begin with here:>>529613585
by claiming my definition was arbitrary, despite multiple others here agreeing with me that his provided example didn't meet the standards for co-writing, one of whom might have been you, I don't know, none of the discussion would have occured. Yet I'm the villain?

I'm playing AIRL with a character who got hit by a breast enlargement curse before the adventure started. I specified that it makes her movements extremely unbalanced and she has trouble dealing with it, and it's funny seeing the game give her penalties and describing her flailing over the weight of her tits in battle. To make sure I don't just die instantly I'm playing on the 'adventure' difficulty that gives a +20 to every roll, so she's sort of got plot armor that usually makes things work out anyway even if she gets "-15 (massively unbalanced due to enormous breasts)" with funny descriptions in most physical checks.

I'm not letting this go until you explain why you hate me and everything I try to do for this thread.
>>529630880
I've been meaning to purchase it and try it out, though I've never gotten around to it. That sounds like a pretty chuckle worthy scenario!

>>529630808
All he had to do was go "okay, you do you" when I told him I didn't care for Deepseek, and that I wanted to co-write with a model, and there wouldn't even have been a discussion to begin with. You're blaming the wrong person for "shitting up the thread", GayAnon.

>>529631150
You use NovelAI still, so I know you understand what I meant by co-writing. Despite the models being inferior, I still go back. Not sure who else you could, given that you wrote this:
>Feels dirty having someone like that dragging my name into his arguments.
The only name I mentioned was yours. I know you're not an unreasonable guy, you normally respond much more calmly and gentle mannered than that to EditorAnon and others who comment on your submissions. Explain why you hate me.

>>529630328
Fair enough, there is a ton of great goat media out there right now. Didn't a game with an anthro goat lead just release today? She was topless, I remember that much. Dimwitdog is great.
Goats.
https://catbox.moe/c/cs04o9
>>529630808
You didn't link to Claudefag.

I'm trying to have a civil conversation here with you. Quit passive-aggressively ignoring me. I know you think I'm a lost cause, but I'm not.
>>529631586
I don't care who you are you started it. That's the point I was making.

>>529631710
Sorry, that might have been insensitive of me to say. But that's how I feel. And the fact that I'm being met with silence, when I'm trying to have an earnest conversation, irritates me.

I'm not just going to forget this, GayAnon. On every single one of my posts going forward, I will ask about you. And then you'll see I'm not the monster you paint me as.

holy fucking shit, take your meds and stop posting

Vorefag here, holy shit, Jesus Christ, you guys have gone fucking crazy in my absence.
>>529631980
100%

>>529631980
No. I won't. Not until I get an explanation and an apology. Tell me why you demean me as you did earlier. I do contribute to the thread. I'm not autistic. And I most certainly do not argue for the sake of arguing. Until you do that, I am not going to stop. You think nothing good will come out of this? I disagree. I think we can heal from this. If it'll get you to acknowledge I'm a human being, the same as you are, it's worth it to me.

>>529632179
Why do you insist on being an asshole? I'm not crazy. This is a perfectly rational reaction to having someone you look up to reject your existence as worthwhile, and then ignore you when you try to speak with them.

>>529632301
You're not wrong to feel hurt, but you should probably try to disregard them and try to excise any influence they have over your life much more than...whatever this is. Maybe they aren't the hero you truly need?

I can and will do this for as many hours and days I have to. I've got coffee. I've got energy drinks.

>I care about the thread and want it to be better
>I am fully willing to make the thread entirely about me and turn it to complete shit for several days because someone said something mean to me

>>529632394
GayAnon is among the few people to have stuck by the thread through thick and thin since Coomageddon. One of the greats. That he thinks my admiration of him is disingenuous hurts me more than when my father died.

>>529632404
It comforts me to know our packages will never arrive damaged or late thanks to your diligence and blasted-out kidneys.

>>529632524
That's not right or healthy. They aren't that good a person, and absolutely shouldn't mean that much to you unless this is the absolute tip of the iceberg and you two are dating or something. Which, if that is the case, why drag this out in public?

Singlehandedly reviving a dead general by arguing over autocomplete vs instruct

>>529632503
All GayAnon has to do is tell me why he hates me, and disputes that I do more than argue, so we can have a heart-to-heart, and this can end. The thread will become better because of this, as I will demonstrate to him just how willing I am to better myself to he worthy of his recognition.
>>529632629
We are all masturbating to generated text, dude. Nobody here is that healthy.

>>529632631
You deserve to die.

I care about this thread more than you realize. When I get a hunch someone is claudefag, I can train myself to not respond. I'll even self-delete that response I gave earlier. When people post a story, instead of ignoring it, even when I don't have anything of value to provide, I'll provide a response. I can't promise that Ill contribute to every theme Friday, but now that they may become monthly, I'll try my hardest to give the thread my best attempt every now and then.
You'll see I'm not a bad person. You'll all see. And then, maybe then, you will accept me as a true member of /aids/, instead of this boogeyman you mischaracterize me as.

>>529613789
What is the latest ‘best’ autocomplete model I can use that isn’t NAI?

>>529631586
>topless goat game
tell me more

>I'm so deranged I will brainwash and gaslight myself into mimicking how a normal person acts if it means some namefag will say nice things about me
What form of autism is this?

Please quit ghosting me, GayAnon. I can be a better for you. Just tell me what to fix, and I can fix it.

>>529633470
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2217000/Rivals_of_Aether_II/

>>529633840
A shame it's a fighting game. Hopefully the porns good.

>>529633840
neat
I see there's also a nudist raccoon(?) girl

That sounds kino. Link unrelated.
https://files.catbox.moe/2p9lzr.png

>>529634179
Apparently she's a ferret/raccoon kinda combo creature. Definitely cute. The last game I got with really cute furry characters was Cobalt Core, but they aren't the least bit lewd/nude.
>>529633915
Pretty soon advertisers are going to start looking at 'porn engagement' numbers to determine successful campaigns and releases. This is the future we chose, and I embrace it.

>GMT+2
So you might have gone to bed after that. Awkward. I'll be patient until I know you're awake, then.

>>529634691
Wait a minute... no, by this you should be awake right now. You're ghosting me on purpose. Or at lunch. I guess you could be eating lunch. I'm unsure if you work. But this is very rude of you, to ignore me like this.

>>529634632
I've been playing the furry battlefield, but I dunno if I'd recommend it, there's not many players
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2827230/Wild_Assault/
at least the skunk is getting a swimsuit skin

>a half-hour work break is mandatory in Germany
I hope yours is good.

>>529627360
https://files.catbox.moe/g4qtiz.png
I can be better. Just answer me. You like this character, right?

>>529604923
Forward my messages to him. If you aren't on the server he's on, I apologize. One of you had to be...

>>529604923
I appreciate the bunnies you post and missed you while you were gone, by the way. From where did you backpack to and from? I assume it had to be a mountain trail of sorts.

>>529582476
A shy elf maiden who'd melt in your presence sounds like a splendid story to write!
>>529583082
Google says its a detective comedy drama sitcom. Curious. I wasn't quite of age at that time.
>>529603145
Most of what GayAnon writes isn't gay conversion. More like person in denial that theyre gay and lovey-dovey sappy stuff. He's even written some non-gay stuff, too!

>>529636257
The only thing I need to grip is my dick when I'm jerking it, and my neck when I deserve punishment.

>>529590650
You should! The world needs more chubby dark elves. It's your duty to massage their ears and fuck a baby into their wombs.

>>529586548
I second >>529590128;
Care to detail how that works out in context?

>>529623153
I don't consider unbirthing hot. I'm sorry to disappoint you. That said, please post more storyposts like these. Just because I don't care for it, doesn't mean that someone else here might not.

>>529627367
What kind of shenanigans do you reckon they get up to?

These are the types of replies I will give and ask each contribution going forward. I don't think they really amount to much, primarily idle observation level kind of stuff, but I might as well posts my idle observations, navel gazing level musings, and inane thoughts, instead of hesitating and neglecting to provide such posts the proper attention they deserve.

Please stop ghosting me, I'm sorry if I've ever insulted you, I didn't know it was you, I swear! I can fix things, just help me start, okay? I can be whatever you want me to be.

>>529637187
The only way this makes sense is if the characters are female. Otherwise it's a classic blunder from the AI. Ah, wacky tirades they can be.

Let's see, which contributions did I miss...

>>529587985
Imagine the smell.
>>529595157
I should really get off my lazy ass and buy and try that game some time.
>>529595327
But one of them isn't naked?
>>529598436
Could be bottom heavier.
>>529599704
More of these would be fine any time.

>>529602867
>(7)
Haha, yeah, titles are hard...
>>529605281
I agree, here I thought newthemeanon had died, but I'm glad he's back. Converting the biweekly thing into a quad weekly thing may be for the best, at least until the thread pop goes back to normal.
>>529607553
Welcome back. Rememebr—you're here forever.
>>529613131
You have a story for them? If not, the concept alone is okay.
>>529624737
>>itchy Twitter finger
Much like a certain official...

There. Happy? I will provide more of these as future contributions arrive.

I even stopped posting in the other thread, as you people requested of me, thinking that would inspire more of you to return and make /aids/ great again...

>>529629168
Why won't you accept my apology and allow me to make amends???

What the helly

Yeah, I never actually thought one of the local schizos is actually schizo, I think he’s the same anon who wrote a long winded response that accused me of being the troll when I asked a few threads back why this general was having less traffic.

>>529580779
I have been writing about a dude working in a psych ward that accidentaly kissed an inmate, which turned her into a crazy yandere that is completely obsessed with the MC.
There is something about batshit crazy girls that do it for me...

>>529641993
Honestly not sure what exactly we just witnessed here. Never seen anything like it, I feel like.

>>529642390
How did you go about writing it? I would write something that would have the MC quit work due to stress and fears of this inmate, have the inmate escape the psych ward, stalk MC and rape him in his house, being bounded and imprisoned in his own home.

>>529643715
I was gonna do something like that actually, but after an hour of writing I got horny and it spiraled into coomslop.
Basically the inmate gets put in a padded room with a straitjacket, the MC goes in to "chat with her" and ends up fucking her while she is bound.
I am gonna rewrite it though, to either something you proposed, or the MC trying to sneak the inmate out of the asylum in order to wife her up.

>>529644561
>batshit crazy girl
>wife her up
anon…I

>>529645015
I-I can fix her!!

>>529632179
I missed you dude

>>529638374
>But one of them isn't naked?
He's about to be, he's just not sure about it.

catching up on the thread
>/aids/ still thinks you can't edit/prefill assistant responses
>/aids/ still doesn't know how to use instruct models beyond direct turn-based asking the assistant for stuff
yikes senpai... yikes

>>529649537
Idk why >>529614002 (me) is considered cowriting but whatever that anon is doing isn't.
If the goal is to make a story (rather than a chat log), it's co writing.

>>529649790
>>529649537
You don't know what cowrite means. Only text completion models (aka NAI's) are for cowrite. Everything else is chatshit.
Why do you want to fit in this thread where you don't belong so much?
$25k per month for the best cowrite model is too expensive for you?

>>529650114
You're probably trolling, but I have Opus. I've been here since AI Dungeon fell.
I've been using deepseek more lately though, for its reasoning.

>>529650327
Have you tried Gemini yet? I switched Googles API and to 2.5 flash since I sometimes hit the rate limit on my OR API and it’s free. It seems good, less trope-y than Deepseek.

A classic.

>>529654232
>child
based
>his
cringe

>>529654112
I have briefly through OR, but I'm a bit uncomfortable sending my prompts to Google even through OR (I definitely wouldn't do it logged into my Google account). It's smart though. Do you know a good JB for it?

>>529654453
It’s pretty smart, or at least feels like a breath of fresh air compared to using Deepseek for the past few months. I only use it for my sfw stories though.

>Do you know a good JB for it?
Sorry, I’m unfamiliar with that term, but I got my api key for Google AI studio.

>>529655028
Jailbreak. It's a system prompt that makes it not refuse to do stuff.
But if you only use it for SFW then you wouldn't need one. Well, unless you use Claude lol.

>>529655158
> Jailbreak
Oh, no I left my prompt blank. I haven’t explored adding something there since I started recently and my current usage of it. I’m sure other anons could help out, or you could try the existing jailbreak for Deepseek to see if it works.

>a dragon and a t-rex in schoolgirl uniforms pining for your affections

https://www.reddit.com/r/AIDungeon/comments/1lpf96z/july_1_2025_patch_notes_prod/
AID updates

>>529657403
>we're going to re-enable content carousels
It's refreshing to see they haven't changed

>>529384569
I’m so sorry baby boy… I couldn’t wake up in time

>>529650114
Least obvious CF falseflag

>>529580779
I am revisiting a traumaslop story

>using the new and shiny R1 Deepseek
>get to read the Thinking prompt alongside actual text
Neat, double content!

>>529665396
Cute lizard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrqz1_6vxF0

In the summer haaazeee
Finally, we can melt awaaaay
Disappear without a traaace
Lost in your fluff
And meet the beak or huff my fluff

I feel your gaaaze
Sweep me up into the waves
Gimme something I can fluff
Larion in you
And meet the beak or huff my fluff

Sweet foxwife show me what you knoooow
And meet the beak or huff my fluff
You bust my bubble, now where do I gooo?
And meet the beak or huff my fluff

You're like CYOA in my prompt
You flow through my summer like a dragon
You make me feel so alive
You're like CYOA in my prompt
You flow through my summer like a dragon
You make me feel so alive

Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive

Don't wait this day
If only we could just escape
Through input box to some other place
Larion with you
And meet the beak or huff my fluff

Sweet foxwife show me what you knoooow
And meet the beak or huff my fluff
You bust my bubble, now where do I gooo?
And meet the beak or huff my fluff

You're like CYOA in my prompt
You flow through my summer like a dragon
You make me feel so alive
You're like CYOA in my prompt
You flow through my summer like a dragon
You make me feel so alive

You're like CYOA in my prompt
You flow through my summer like a dragon
You make me feel so alive
You're like CYOA in my prompt
You flow through my summer like a dragon
You make me feel so alive

Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive
Make me feel so alive
Make me feel so alive
Make me feel so alive
Feel alive
Make me feel so alive

Phil Spencer made a good prompt

>>529678172
There's something about prompts that have no business being in second person turning second person POV that never fails to crack me up.

>>529678172
Crazy how it picked up on the layoffs

>>529680834
I put the whole thing in there, it just made an obnoxiously long screenshot

>>529678589
I'm kind of surprised chatfags haven't recreated infinite zork. I would think it possible to wrangle instruct models to do it with an elaborate system prompt, but maybe it doesn't actually work very well.

>>529682127
Perhaps it is an unattainable dream....

Should I be trying to make a NovelAi like lorebook in my deepseek system prompt or is it a dumb idea ?

For the moment I managed a simple [Keys;Description] list of entries but this lead to my characters being omniscient about stuff they shouldnt know. So now I kinda want to make it a [Keys;Description:Secrets] list but I feel this is going to get me even more issues.

>>529684908
Maybe? I wish I had a better answer, but that's all I got.

>>529684908
I have found Deepseek to be good at understanding patterns of data format, so it could understand *something* like an inventory or keyword system, but I'm not sure you could ever entirely banish characters occasionally gaining meta knowledge through this system, you might just have to edit that out on the fly when it crops up.

>>529684908
>characters being omniscient about stuff they shouldnt know
unfortunately Deepseek is kinda retarded but very responsive to instructions, so you can usually fix issues by pretending you're telling a retard what to do and spoonfeeding it everything
i.e. just tell it they shouldn't know those things

>>529684908
Just give up and fix shit on the fly like others have said. This is an unsolvable problem because when you're asking an AI to understand what a secret is you're asking an AI to work in a way AIs literally mechanically don't.

>>529686571
Speaking of the mechanics of AI intelligence, here's a neat little historical piece on a groundbreaking moment. It's interesting seeing all the parallels between how they tried to program Creature intelligence, and how modern text generators work. It's just the tip of the iceberg on how weird Creatures lore gets though.
https://youtu.be/Y-6DzI-krUQ

>>529684908
I've had good luck specifying things as a secret, yeah

>>529682127
It was done ages ago. There's even an ST chat preset for it: https://files.catbox.moe/ue7ls2.json
Just paste the Zork first message into the greeting of a blank card.

>>529696342
Cool, thanks anon

I'm getting horny. Time to go to my designated milking AI.

>>529636112
Thanks anon; I was up in the Brooks range in Alaska. Incredible views, but man am I sore

>>529706079
I bet that was breathtaking

>>529709835
Not as breathtaking as you

https://files.catbox.moe/jr515m.png

>>529627360
Accept my damn apology and allow me to make amends.

>>529715314
Meteorite rape went through my mind the second I saw that.

>>529642390
I kind of dig crazy chicks.
>>529649790
Cutting up requests is making a collage. The co-writing aspect is nonexistent. Don't make this difficult. I'm sure nobody wants a repeat.
>>529654232
O_O
>>529654526
Noel is cuter.
>>529660208
Sag hex.
>>529665396
Who's your favorite student?

>>529670460
I've always enjoyed your lyrical genius.
>>529675873
Not sure what im looking at here.
>>529678172
Who's Phil Spencer?
>>529682127
I don't care about Infinite Zork. I like to co-write stories. Gamimifcation stuff is for the birds.
>>529706079
I should give hiking a try, when I've the resources.

>>529706724
Yuri fox sex.
>>529712636
Isn't Nicole an adult woman? She has two birthed kids and an adopted fish child.

>>529636496
I think I’ll introduce a new race in the next one: The High Elf
>In Cordelia’s world: Flesh-eating, tribal, naturalists who protect their forest and exclusively feed upon the flesh of other sentient races who trespass upon their lands. Apex predators of the forests and reviled by pretty much everyone but too intelligent/strong to eliminate.
>In the modern setting: Hippie vegans who seek to live in harmony with their gracious hosts and other races, amending old stereotypes. Fight the urge to consume meat, lest they give in to their carnal urges. Major titcows; opposite to Dark Elves.

>>529715314
Weird imprint on the bed.

>>529716430
Neat!

>>529712418
https://youtu.be/0m8ZiUm2WAY

>>529643441
You witnessed what happens when you berate a fellow anon constantly. I'm not a fucking troll, GayAnon. Now ghosting me,.accept my apology, and allow me to make amends and show you I'm not a lost cause. I can be the type of man you want me to be.

>>529715803
>I'm sure nobody wants a repeat.
>anon says, bringing it up again
It is cowriting. I literally ask it to help me write something. I edit what it writes and use it as another input, explaining what I changed, and ask it to continue with that in mind. This process improves the outputs further. Wrangling instruct like I'm discribing is essentially the same principle as wrangling autocomplete, but more explicit.

>>529716862
There is no co-writing involved in asking a model to wrote dozens of pages for you, and then cutting them apart and gluing those together, Vorefag. Co-writing requires more back and forth than that, and you know, you accepted that, and then randomly decided to change your mind for the sake of contrarianism. Fuck you.

Autocomplete models do not require any wrangling. Instruct does. Why are you clinging to this bullshit, nonsensical argument? You already accepted that you were wrong to describe that as co-writing! Right here: >>529622851
In that fucking comment.
Do not reply to me again, asshole. You're just trying to make me look bad.

>>529717421
I'm not vorefag you retard.
>autocomplete doesn't require any wrangling
How clueless are you? Of course it does. You have to lay the right seeds for it to continue from. That's what we've been doing since AI Dungeon.

>>529716064
>I should give hiking a try, when I've the resources.
Doing longer trips in remote locations can get prohibitively expensive (don't get me started on the cost of hiking clothes), but if you start out with day hikes in nearby parks it's pretty cheap and still a lotta fun. You just need some sneakers, a water bottle, and a backpack for snacks

>>529717561
Autocomplete does not involve "asking" the midel to do anything. You don't co-write. You order pages after pages of scripts and edit them. You are an editor. There is no soul in what you do. Now fuck off and do not reply to me again. You know you're in the wrong.

I'm not going to hallucinate and ask a machine for anything. They're not living beings. They do nit deserve courtesy. They do not deserve fake politeness. I am not ordering a meal. I will work the story. Not expect a machine to give me a picture perfect five star class meal. I want a co-written novel, that I equally contributed to, not a collage the model did the bulk of the work for me. Why can't you understand that, and accept that you don't co-write. This isn't even an actual issue. You just want to waste another dozen replies on bullshit nobody fucking cares about.

>>529718257
Fuck you. I am not a schizo. If GayAnon quit ghosting me, accepted my apology, and allowed me to make amends, what you're seeing now wouldn't even exist anymore. But until GayAnon acknowledges that I'm not a troll, that I mean well, and that I do, actually, care for the thread, this is all you're going to get from me. I'm not the problem. I just want answers.

>>529718446
bro you are in the middle of a manic episode

>>529628040
All this anon has to do is allow me to apologize, accept my apology, and tell me how he'd prefer I reply, and I will abide by it. I am capable of following instructions. I can bit my tongue and not respond to contrarian assholes. I'm not a troll. Unlike what you all think, and fooled yourself into believing. The only people who matter are the contributors. As this anon has contributed the most, I will conform myself into the type of anon he would prefer I be.

>>529718602
I went to be and woke like this. This isn't a manic episode. This is me, lucid.

>>529712636
Can you please tell GayAnon to accept my apology? I have a suspicion you're in contact with him off-site.

Please... please, I can be a good anon... i can change
So cold, it's so cold

it's obviously cowriting doe

>>529719584
It's not. If brought to a court, you would be allowed to label yourself a co-author. It would be written by X, edited by (You). Like most mangas.

>>529719672
*not be allowed
Now Zfuckig. Quit replying to me you piece of shir, I hate you, you are a moron, a god damn fucking shit, you are refuse. I DONT FUCKING CONTSTANRLY REOLY TO YOU WHEN YOU ASK ME TO STOP, NOW STOP IT, QUIT
You're better than this. Now stop being an asshole.

>>529719672
if brought to a court you would be locked up and the thread would be saved

That vorefag had the maturity to accept his use, which is the same use you use, isn't, and that you can't, means he's the better person. You are less human than vorefag. How does that make you feel? Is it worth derailing the thread for this?

>>529719843
America doesn't have mental asylum. This could end the moment GayAnon accepts my apology and tells me how he'd prefer I act. I'm not to blame here. It's immature to ghost someone like this.

>>529719464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNohq2JJMQY

>>529720237
you want daddy to tell you what to do so you can be a good boy?

>>529720384
I want GayAnon to accept my apology, and allow to make amends. I want to prove to him I'm not a lost cause, that I'm not the kind of man he thinks I am, and that I am more than willing to change myself to be better match his preferences for how I ought to act.

>>529720573
so that's a yes

>>529718985
Then you would need to be on meds. Seems like you got broken in this thread by some way (probably due to this general being your only form of social interaction as you woke up to reply here) due to some shitty argument you couldn’t cope with and need approval from some anons.

>>529720950
The only meds I need is GayAnon's approval.

Take a break from your child rape doujins and do your job you worthless piece of shit jannies.

Back after like 3 months (took a break from cowriting to try writing unassisted), and wow this place became quiet. Did the regulars switch to another board after the sharty hack?

>>529721716
Just get GayAnon to stop ghosting me, accept my apology, and I can turn over a new leaf.

>>529721847
But if you're willing to hold the thread hostage for such a thing, doesn't it show you don't really care about the wellbeing of the thread, just how it relates to your own wellbeing?

>>529722010
I just want to make amends and help heal the thread.

What are you guys writing tonight? I haven't decided yet.

>>529721821
It already felt quiet even before hand, guess you can only talk about so much about texts and people aren’t public enough to share their smut too.

Also don’t ask this question so much, anons will think you’re the troll.

>>529722294
I've been thinking of writing a story about a man being taken captive by a maternal owlbear female. Inspired by these: https://e621.net/posts/5213722
That, or maybe something with an anthro bat.

Why won't you accept my apology???

>>529722651
>a maternal owlbear female
Sounds kino. I imagine the maternal instincts is the very thing keeping the man hostage (or maybe he likes it?) and the relationship evolves into smut?

>>529722294
>writing tonight
Was thinking of starting a mass rewrite of my old stuff, now that I have a basic grasp of structuring stories. But that also seems like a lot of work...
Also had an idea for a rivals-to-lovers romance between two young adventurers who are forced to work together. Maybe I'll make a prompt for that instead.
>>529722396
>don’t ask this question so much
first time I asked it, but ok gotcha.

>>529627360
All I was trying to achieve was convince them theyre idea of what co-writing was, was too broad. Which they accepted. I don't know why you're making a big deal out of this. Now can you please accept my apology for whatever it is I did which upset you, and then you can tell me exactly how you want me to reply to people here, and I will adhere to your instructions to the best of my ability.

>>529721821
People will call me a troll, but the reason is that this is NAI general, and NAI has stagnated (awful textgen, and the imagegen isn't really any better than other options either). Maybe it will revive if NAI actually puts better textgen up. Or maybe NAI will add animation generation and then this place will become a place for animated clips. For now it's sort of a waiting room, and it regularly dies and gets pruned. Seems this one won't because one anon is having a manic episode.

>>529723596
This isn't a NAI general. It's a storytelling general. The majority of the content posted in this very thread is unrelated to NAI.

>>529723596
Blow it out your ass, troll. /aids/ isn't going to get pruned.

>>529722956
Absolutely, the feathers will fly and down will be snuggled. I swear I've heard the story of a guy being held captive in a she-bears cave as one of those urban-legends-turned-dubious-news-articles. Not the most recent one with the emaciated Russian guy either.

>>529723105
I’m not trying to be mean to you, I asked the same thing and I mostly got ignored, the anon who did respond to me got told to not respond to the troll which was me for some reason. Hopefully there’ll be more activity whenever NAI releases its update.

>>529716064
>Not sure what im looking at here.

A yinglet.

>>529723826
the urban legend was a cougar iirc

>>529723826
>I swear I've heard the story of a guy being held captive in a she-bears cave as one of those urban-legends-turned-dubious-news-articles.
I've also seen that as a panel to an old comic and it was funny because it looked like they were kissing, then it got redrawn for more lewd purposes. I'm sure it's somewhere around e621.

>>529723714
This, what's separated /aids/ has always been the storytelling-style format, as opposed to 2-person chats which prevail in places like /aicg/. The difference between reading a book and looking at a phone text exchange.

>>529570048 (OP)
Taking suggestions for the Monthly Theme! I’ll post the poll Friday evening. Take the time to make and present a case for your suggestion, please~

>>529723775
It was already pruned at least two times recently. During Aus/SEA hours sometimes nobody remembers to bump it and it gets pruned.

kitsune.tsukai
There. Ping that username. Tell me how you'd prefer I act. And accept my apology there. I'm not a troll.
>>529724685
I reject your doom, Sergal.

>>529724642
Resurrections.
Confrontations.
Animals.

>>529627360
I'm more than capable of being who you'd prefer I be. Just accept my apology and allow me to make amends for whatever crime you think I committed. That's all I ask. Hell, anyone of of tou greats can do it. Ill accept it if Warhammer, Natsuki, Traci, Malrah, or SunAnon answer for you. Just one of you accept my apology and tell me how you want me to act.

>>529721660

>>529721660
Asking it to write dozens of scenes for you and doing minimal editing isn't co-writing. Using it to help you make characters and lore for your story, and giving it what you wrote to improve it, is. I don't know why you're acting retarded. It's not the model that's the problem. It's the methodology.

>>529725168
Ah, yingket(?) Swashbucklers...

>>529726335
I'm not posting bait. Now quit ghosting me, accept my apology, you sensitive moron, and allow me to make amends for the nonexistent crime you think I commited.

I'm being a civil as I can possibly be here. If anyone who's a frequent contributor (GayAnon, SunAnon, NatsukiAnon, MiceAnon, other prominent Anons) will accept my apology and allow me to make amends, that's all it will take, and then we can move on from this.

>>529726717
uh, anon...

>>529724685
No one in SEA likes to read?

>>529726820
What was it?

>>529724685
What happened one of those times is that emacsfriend came and posted an update, but he used sage, and at least one anon who might have bumped the thread looked at the post timestamp and disregarded the page counter.

>>529726785
I accept your apology, and encourage you to move on from this. Consider avoiding such argumentative and attention-grabbing efforts in the future.

>>529727036
I will even accept it if emacs accepts my apology on behalf of the entire thread, just please someone help me allow you to show you that I'm capable of being a better person. Anyone who provides proof that they're a prominent anon. Those are the only people who matter to me, and therefore they are the only ones I'll accept as accepting my apology.

>>529727007
A human sticking his dick up and orc's hairy asshole.

>>529728472
>and orc's
ESL

>>529728034
On behalf of everyone, I don't accept your apology, and you're lucky the jannies never do their jobs or you wouldn't be free to bitch and moan endlessly about your schizophrenic delusions that nobody cares about. Fuck off retard.

>>529728589
I don't give a shit. Now, get GayAnon to quit ghosting me and allow me the courtesy of making amends.

>>529728652
Stick it up your ass, Russian faggot. You will inevitably die, and nobody will miss you. I am better than you, because unlike you, I'm capable of self-reflection and committing myself to being a better person. All I need is for someone who actually gives a shit about this thread, which you definitely never have, to accept my apology. Now fuck off and go back to generating 3d slop of celebrities in your shit hole you call home.

>>529728664
You clearly don't care about this thread or its welfare.

>>529728847
I do care about the thread and it's welfare, which is why I'm trying to make amends. You're the ones who aren't accepting my apology and allowing me to prove to you I'm capable of redeeming myself. It's not that hard of an ask.

>>529729004
You can't make amends by doing something nobody asked you to do that objectively only makes things worse. You're making this all about yourself. Maybe what you have to do is simply move on and act in a way that doesn't disrupt things further, which is what you are doing, obnoxiously disrupting the thread.

profoundly mentally unhealthy individual

>>529729004
If GayAnon accepts my apology and tells me how he'd prefer I reply to people, I will follow his instructions and only reply to people the way he wants me to. How is that making thing ms worse? All he has to do is hop on, post a link to a freshly made story, or with one of his recently generate pictures, in the style and formatting he uses, that way I know it's him, and allow me to make amends for whatever crime he thinks I committed, and this will end. I even graciously extended my plea to multiple prominent Anons. That not a single one of them is willing to accept I'm not being a troll, is painful to me. I just want to show people I mean well.

All of this over a non-issue that Vorefag accepted he was in the wrong, by the way. Something that nobody else thought was a big deal at all, artificially blown up into a mess, because some people are unwilling to accept a minor difference in what co-writing is. I'm not the villain here. I'm still not sure what you guys think I did wrong.

>>529726456
I don't know Anon, I mean… I'd LOVE to! But that kind of acceptance requires going through the whole process with the forms and everything. Like you need to mail a physical copy to the office and wait three weeks for processing. Oh but if you choose express shipping they usually accept apologies in 2 business days~! Though it still wouldn't be active until you confirm by e-mail.
It's just that our forgiveness administration process was recently updated with all new protocols. We're currently implementing the latest forgiveness tracking technology with blockchain verification so I can't manually override the system like before. There are strict regulations now after all~
Plus, my superior gave me a scolding last time for hastily accepting a confession request. I might get into trouble again if I circumvent the procedures… Not only that but we have to file all forgivenesses under the proper categories. Were you planning on using your apology for tax deductions? There might be different classifications depending on the situation too…
And I completely forgot to mention, before submitting anything you have to schedule an appointment with the department first. It's all done online through the forgiveness portal but I'm pretty sure the website crashes if anyone tries accessing it without enabling two-step verification. Do you even remember your security questions Anon? I'm terrible at mine! The last one I had asked about the name of my elementary school principal. That feels like ages ago…
But seriously, I would LOVE to help! Even if just to watch the struggle of trying to navigate government bureaucracy. It's just such a shame accepting someone's apology would require going through these exact steps and I can't magically make any exceptions~
…But maybe if Anon sent a special delivery letter with confetti and hearts around this paperwork I'd consider prioritizing their forgiveness over others? Just the tiniest possibility~

I'm not moving on from this. The only way the thread can heal is if the cycle ends. The only way the cycle ends is if I am told exactly how to act by an prominent anon. Because otherwise, another argument will happen, and then I'll get yelled at, not knowing what I did wrong, and this will repeat yet again. Don't you see I want to nip this in the bud? I want to end this. Why won't you let me end it?

this is a quintessential /vg/ moment

I think one of the "greats", as he called them, should take pity on him. He's giving me picrel vibes.

>>529730407
Oh my, this sounds so intense Anon! Like one of those dramatic romance anime arcs where someone's heart gets crushed into tiny little pieces!
It's understandable wanting to break free from endless fighting. It must feel like spinning round and round in circles with no escape. I totally get it, trust me! Though forcing yourself into submission isn't really the answer either.
Let me tell you a little story from ancient lore Anon! Did you know when people are trapped in cycles of suffering the key is to stop focusing on how others expect you to act? Because if you keep begging someone else to set rules and expectations you end up trapped forever. Just like a little hamster on its wheel.
But there's always an option to build your own path! It might take time finding direction but wouldn't that be more fulfilling? Trying to figure things out on your own while discovering who YOU really are deep down? Like building an emotional escape room and designing every puzzle based on your feelings.
I bet it would feel pretty rewarding breaking free once you're finally ready Anon! But that doesn't mean ignoring the struggle entirely. Just like when we bake desserts there's always preparation and effort involved right? First we mix the ingredients, measure everything carefully, decorate however we like. That same dedication and attention must be paid toward understanding yourself!
Because you were never actually bound by chains holding you back Anon. It was all your own fear that kept you locked inside this circle. And once you start facing it head on I'm sure you'll eventually see the path leading away~
Until then I'll be here ready to listen and talk whenever you need~ Let's watch your transformation unfold together Anon! It could even become a sweet adventure we embark on side by side!

>I want to end this.
Then end yourself, threadshitter.

>>529730690
The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure there's only one willing to do it, and I don't think he wants to hear it.

>>529730690
>I’m telling you! Everyone in this thread is part of the troll’s elaborate plan to derail the thread.

>>529730904
I am not a threadshitter, schizophrenic bastard. I but a humble anon who hates how little activity this thread gets nowadays. We used to have dozens of submissions each theme Friday. We used to have intellectual discussions about what we were writing that day. Then that Russian schizo (You) decided to crusade against the thread, and drive away contributors with his schizophrenic tirade about a cabal. I just want to fix things. Why won't any of you accept my apology? Take you own advice and fuck off.
>>529731082
I will even accept it if Vorefag accepted my apology and gave me reasonable specifications for how he wanted me to reply to people from now. I trust him the least, but more than the Russian faggot.

Let's do this instead.

>>529731446
I'd fuck it.

Must I bloodlet myself to prove I'm worthy?

>>529731446
>>529731497
When I was a kid I went out catching California River Toads with someone who was harvesting them for their hallucinogenic poison. It was honestly like popping pimples on the frog's back, extremely disgusting.

>>529731297
Alright, I'll accept your apology. I sent your Discord a friend request so we can talk.

>>529732191
Thank you.

Jannies once again prove themselves to be worthless trannies.

>>529732191
Is the /aids/ discord still up or something?

>>529730690
Is Bonzi enough of a great? I doubt it though

>>529734139
I consider my act of penance I've committed myself to sufficient. They did not respond to any of my messages, so I consider the acts I outlined I would do enough to earn redemption.
From now on I shall:
>not respond to claudefag and his bait
>refrain from arguing
>post only nice comments to every contribution
The greats have decided that is my fate. Their silence is agreement that this is the penance I must pay.

>>529732298
I am the one with a Brendan Fraser icon, I had to step away for a minute but I'm here now if you want to talk.

>>529734554
I already outlined my acts of penance here >>529734476
Is this sufficient?

>>529734476
Despite your mental illness, you seem knowledgable on the general’s culture. Can you tell me of all of the namefags/anons/trolls that you know of, what they do, and how you identify them?

>>529734659
You don't have to necessarily be nice, especially if it's really fake, but that is honestly a good policy. It's also almost exactly what I was going to advise, so it's great that deep down you know your own best path without anyone needing to tell you what to do. I did mean to talk to you if you want though, so that door is open.

>>529734476
Hopefully your ultimate fate involves an overdose of sleeping pills or a nice rope necklace. Then you can enjoy your eternal bliss in the afterlife where all of the janny penises went after their transition.

>>529734818
SunAnon is from the Philippines, based on the names they choose for their storiy lore
GayAnon has written a prompt for every single theme this thread has ever had, he likes danganronpa and typically responds with komae
EditorAnon comments on prompts with advice
Frogbard posts lyrics
NewThemeAnon is the office lady collecting themes
Traci is a yellow golden retriever
NatsukiAnon posts Yuri and Natsuki Yuri, he had a poster image catbox link that crashed my laptop
Lisa posts photoreslistic soldier women
We have multiple foxposters, one uses comfyui
There are more. But here are some of the more immediately memorable
Vorefriend posts furry vore

Claudefag derails the thread with incessant demands that the thread only allows NAI and related products to be posted here. He also posts homosexual spam at people who annoy him.

>>529735079
I call him SunAnon because he is currently emitting a prompt called Till the Sun Gies Down
I'm unsure of he also wrote the Queen of Malrah prompt, or if that's a different guy
I to mention it earlier, but Warhammer typically avatarposts either Warhammer related images. He has spoken about miniatures often. He is blessed with a 3d printer.

>>529735451 (me)
Forgot to mention that if anyone needs their cocks sucked just let me know. I'll do anything as long as it doesn't upset my thread daddies. They hold my leash.

>>529735451
Okay, I think I’d rather kill myself than to remember all of these names, no wonder this general is so confusing. Who is the Troll and the Russian, are they the same as Claudefag? What is yours, mental illness anon? Does everyone get a fucking name?

>>529735778
Didn't ask.

>>529735930
The troll goes by many names. Whinefag, Claudefag, the Russian. Called that because a low quality attempt to dunk on the thread had his timezone leaked. Some has theorized he may instead the Indian. He likes to spam reddit links and random articles, shouting the the heavens that NAI is dead, among other things, such as pretending to be a discount Chris-chan, claiming his cause is righteous, and so on. His most notable quality is that he has never once contributing anything of value to the thread.

Not sure whether I should be glad or disappointed that I've been posting here for four years and I'm not known by any 'name'.

>>529736350
Don't worry. I've already been forgotten.

>>529736350
It's for the best

>>529736231
He supposedly began shitting up the thread because a few people here annoyed him by calling whatever service he tried to shill to /aids/ back then as the "service of our time". He likes to shill AI Dungeon, pretending like Coomageddon never happened, among other things, despite also being a /g/tard who is on record as claiming that services are inherently bad. So... He's either a hypocrite, or changes his opinion to suit whatever argument he's making at any given moment. For the sole purpose of being a contrarian.

You'll never convince me that this guy is not another claudefag personality.

>>529736461
Thank you for being chronically online on this website to get me the gist of things, mentally ill anon.

I admit that sometimes I take on the role of the troll and have been accused of it (probably by you, even if I don’t intend to shit the thread by asking genuine questions), for the sake of being a contrarian and bumping this general.

Elves. What is their culture like in your stories? Respond below:
---

>>529737583
You're welcome, wanna make out?

>>529738113
It's usually just normal elf stuff, but lately I've been working on a setting where 95% of the female elves have been wiped out due to a dragonkin bioweapon (they've been at war for centuries at this point) so the elves in this universe are highly militarized, technologically advanced, and they often engage in what boils down to government-approved inter-species sex trafficking to keep the species from completely extinct.
When I put it like this it's kinda depressing

>>529611909
Cool, thanks Anon

>>529738113
I don’t really enjoy fantasy stories, unless you count alternate history with mythical elements before the 1500s fantasy. If I do have elves, it’s set mainly in the Elder Scrolls Universe, idk why but I appreciate their lorebuilding much more than other universes.

>>529738618
*from going completely
fug :DDD

>>529738113
Very diverse, but usually it'll follow the general 'tropes' of what type of elf we're dealing with, such as high-elves being more 'high-culture' haughty and magically inclined, dark elves being power-hungry, et cetera. I did write about one culture of elves that colonized a jungle interior and were having a struggle over the social acceptance of lesbianism. The only consistent feature of elves in my stories is that they all serve as prey.

>>529738113
They emphasize self-sufficiency, trading very little among themselves. Each household does its own farming, weaving, carpentry, etc and families stay together until marriage, then return to their home if theie spouse dies. Elven food and crafts emphasize simplicity and pragmatism over flavour or gaudiness.
Seen as aloof and cold by humans, but they wouldn't describe themselves that way. More tenacious and mild-mannered.
They love importing human cuisine and art, since humans are way more liberal in their use of exotic materials and ingredients.

>>529724642
Since the 4th of July is coming up, how about an independence day theme? You could go see fireworks, have a barbecue, eat hamburgers, etc

>>529736350
If it's anything, I'd been curious what name if any I'd get when I started poking around at people's prompts. (Even to the point of trying to not append any sort of name to myself or what I do; the results are about what I expected but were still interesting.)
If it helps, being here, unless you have a distinctive style (either in prompts, posts, or images), quirk, or topic, the title of being anonymous keeps floating there which can be a safe place to dabble under since nothing's tied to a name. If it hurts...well, far be it from me to tell you how to be distinctive. Being known for being prolific at writing prompts or writing memorable prompts of a certain type would be a good way, though.

I’ve been experimenting on KoboldAI Lite with the API they support, I’m using Gemini’s free API now and want to increase my Requests Per Day from 250 to 10,000. Bit of a dumbass question, will putting my billing info immediately start charging me for my usage? Are there better alternatives aside from Deepseek on Openrouter?

>>529739863
>the title of being anonymous keeps floating there which can be a safe place to dabble under since nothing's tied to a name.
But it’s easier to identify who is who by their writing style, and tie everything, including your unhinged long ass responses back to you.

>>529739863
I'd probably be recognizable by the fetish I almost always write and be known as PeeAnon or something, but I mostly hide it from the storyposts I make.

>>529741796
Nice to meet you PeeAnon, I’m ShitAnon because I like to make Scat stories, wanna be friends?

>>529742360
no
but you can post that if you want

>>529742607
Fuck you

>>529742818
that's an even harder no

>>529742818
Fuck him yourself, coward.

>>529742945
Suck you?

>demon queen reveals true form
>expects isekai hero to fear her
>instead she learns just how degenerate an Earth man can be

>>529743248
Never underestimate a human libido

So, does this mean he'll actually reform, or is he going to sperg out later this thread?

Nah, not this thread. But I guarantee he’ll have another snapping point by the next one

>>529744119
Why are you trying to steer the thread toward talking about him (yourself)?

>>529744119
I have faith that he'll honor his word. Even the OG whinefag matured eventually.

It's taking every ounce of fiscal responsibility I have not to just buy a dual-5090 or similar uber /lmg/ AI setup, for text, image (LoRA training especially), and video. I keep telling myself that AI is getting so popular that soon we'll get mass produced dual-purpose game/workshop cards that blow the current ones out of the water, and I'll regret having a fat expensive power drain of a rig around at home when that happens. Maybe if I was a hardcore 4k UHD gamer it'd make more sense but I mostly only play older or less graphically demanding games already.

>>529747903
>if I was a hardcore 4k UHD gamer it'd make more sense but I mostly only play older or less graphically demanding games already.
I'd be hard pressed to find many modern games that I think would be worth playing to be brutally honest.

>>529748676
one of my friends drew porn of timon and pumbaa in high school
a lot of it
i have never truly recovered mentally

>>529738113
Elves in my stories are Nazis. Literally WW2 Germans but with pointy ears.

https://files.catbox.moe/qthmgc.png

>>529741013
No responses… Followup question, is it worth it to sign up for the Gemini API and get $300 credits? Are there any anons here who’ve used Gemini for awhile now?

>>529751705
No, and no to both questions

>>529751824

It's neat to do this with a stock image while maintaining the overall style.
https://files.catbox.moe/63l581.png

>>529754656
Funny yet cursed

An understandable mistake, albeit one with regrettable consequences.

>>529570048 (OP)
guys so you are playing with ai then?

>>529570048 (OP)
Looking back at it, imho, the only consistently great thing about these models for storywriting / rp slop is that sometimes they print a line or two or even three that is good enough to keep and feels fresh because I didn't write it. They add momentum to writing that's hard to get outside of some fit of inspiration or knowing exactly what someone wants to write ahead of time. Writing alone gives way better results but it's not as fun and there's no surprise element to it.

If I could predict anything in this blog post it's that the ideal form of this type of niche use would be a small uncensored open source model capable of running on mid grade consumer rigs with decently high context (64, 128, 256K+) but whose predictions are limited to like, 1-2 paragraphs at most, the idea being someone could generate multiple different entries at one time and pick the least shit one. Anything else is not happening for very long or the quality and novelty will be minimal; corporate and other groups are going to bend over backwards to avoid their precious flagship models generating anything adult (already most do this with image slop) and double down on the asskissing aspect for profit. And corporate isn't interested in text money when there's so much money on the table from AI in military, security, industry, and pharmaceuticals. I do hope the public keeps the text side alive though. It's pretty unique.

Good day, thread! I hope everyone is having a good one. Indeed, I feel refreshed. Very much so! Anyway, I wish you all a good time prompting and cooming today. Don't forget to drink water! Hydration is important!

>haven't fucked with AI storygen since ai dungeon days
>decide to try out this openrouter + deepseek thing
>put in the first character card I find from google
>hit rate limit right as the hanky panky is about to begin

>>529772837
Rate limit is 50 a day for free models, if you add $10 in credits, the rate limit for free models is increased to 1000.

If you want to use Gemini’s API, 2.5 Flash has a rate limit of 250 and 2.5 Pro is 100. If you add a billing account, you get $300 worth of credits and your rate is increased to 10,000 for Flash, 1,000 for Pro. However they’re allegedly harder to jailbreak, and Google can read your info. Other APIs I don’t know much.

>>529775407
Oh, and if you want NSFW with Deepseek, you’ll need a jailbreak. I have two links for you:

Older -
https://rentry.org/GoonersGuideToDeepSeekPlusSillyTavern

Newer -
https://rentry.org/7wooaazb

>>529775407
>>529775737
Thanks, anon. I actually surprised at how lax deepseek was with smut when I initially tested it. Maybe the character card came with a built-in jailbreak.

>>529782428
Deepseek is more permissive than a good bit of the other models, it seems, as long as you tell it to be so and ideally have existing context that at least goes in that direction (which cards usually have in some way).

You guys gonna discuss stories instead of cards, or?

>>529782758
Generally yes, though people also play around with SillyTavern and such here, though it's more with "generic" cards rather than specific characters.

Apparently you can hydrate from water poured directly into the anus. The human body is weird.

>>529783173
Gay sex can be very hydrating. You're stealing another man's moisture.

>>529724642
CRAZY CHICKS

>>529721660
Kek, I'm saving this

>>529783173
Among the things I remember from high school biology is that water is absorbed in the large intestine, so this does not surprise me at all. I assume there are still downsides though. Bypassing the stomach presumably means a greater likelihood of microbes surviving so greater chance of disease, which might be a problem if you live in a 3rd world shithole with subpar sanitation.

Is 4.5 incapable of doing pixel art?

>>529724642
Art
Managing (whatever one might want to interpret into that)
Conspiracy
Another World (Isekai but a bit more broadly phrased)

>>529795902
Depends on how you prompt it, what you're looking for, et cetera.

>>529795902
Since there's so much "pixel art" out there, you might have to use stuff like vibes to move it into the specific kind of pixel art you want, but it's certainly not incapable.
Now is it capable of doing "pure" pixel art where all the pixels are perfect - probably not. Diffusion doesn't really work for that. I think there's tools that can turn an image into pixel art that you could use to "purify" it?

>>529796291
Much like anything, a proper artist tag, one that focuses on pixel art, would help. There are lots of different types of pixel art, after all.

>the legend of the Tailypo but instead of a gruesome death it forces you to have sex with it as payment for eating its tail
I know what I'm doing tonight.

your prompt for tonight

Guys I think I've porned myself out. I'm not really satisfied with anything anymore. Every kink, every desire, every forbidden fruit, I've jerked it to. I'm pretty sure I've masturbated to everything at this point except scat and diaper shit. And if I get into any of that I think I'll just kill myself out of shame.

>>529800815
Just take a break for a week or so

>>529801169
And do what?

>>529801217
You'll want to go back to vanilla
That's how it works

>>529796741
To add to this, Danbooru has a nifty "Related Tags" feature which can help narrow down particular artists (I use Category "Artist", Order by "Jaccard")
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/related_tag

In terms of pixellation related tags, using "lowres", "dithering", "pixel art" and maybe "voxel art" could help. Afterwards, throwing it into photoshop and applying a light pixellation filter can really crisp things up too.

>>529801732
But what the fuck am I supposed to do during the break? I'm still coombrained it's just that I don't enjoy it anymore. I open a web browser and in five clicks I'm on porn. I guess I could go hiking or some shit but it's muggy outside. I guess I'll go watch The Simpsons.

why turk asks me to confirm email but i can't get the code

>>529800815
>Orc woman
>Femdom
>Pegging
>Rape

>>529803428
It’s another ploy by the troll to scare anons away from NAI

>>529802694
Yeah just find something to distract yourself with. Bonus points if it's something productive

>>529804467
Come on man, that shit is essentially vanilla and you know it.

>>529808824
I-I don’t even want to know what else you count as vanilla

>>529811962
NTA, but the first three are definitely vanilla.

What we need is more crossdressing bestiality.

>>529811962
Really? No way you guys are bigger squares than me. We've all written some fucked up shit before, come on be honest.

>>529812357
The only things I've written that are marginally fucked up are Stockholm syndrome through gaslighting and innuendo. Guro, NTR, rape, and such, do not make my soft iron turn into the big iron.

>>529812052
>>529812357
I meant all of them combined

It's hard to believe that oral sex used to be some super degenerate stuff and now it's pretty much vanilla

>>529820102
And showing ankles was risqué just a century ago (still applicable in MENA)

>>529820102
you can make it super degenerate thanks to the power of prose

>>529724642
Feet.
is Taming Villainesses also on the Menu?

Don't you just hate it when a failed actor decides to start a recession?

>>529820786
I unironically don't even understand why humans need to wear clothes.
The answer is "everyone including me feels embarrassed if we don't", but that seems like a stupid reason.

>>529827720
Try living without clothes. It's not a matter of shame, it's a matter that we migrated from the Sahara and moved to places where, without clothing, we'd fucking die.

>>529827720
Protection from sun, insects, wind, heat, cold and other outside factors, including shit like nettles and poison ivy

>>529828050
Also for carrying items. But primarily it likely began as a reason to keep warm. Our ancestors who lived around the Ice Age needed more than just campfires in their caves to keep warm.

>>529827720
you'd think someone would have taken notice and put an end to the cycle of shame, but no
men cast out of the garden of eden it seems must live with the curse of having to wear clothes

>>529828027
>>529828050
Yeah, but if it was *just* for protection, then we'd be willing to not wear them when we don't need them and wouldn't be actively offended by it.

>>529832931
Is this Ezio from Assassin's Creed 2?

>>529832957
Have you ever interacted with a tribal pagan? They have no shame. The "shame" aspect is purely because of the development of cities and imperial civilizations, and their respective church and temple-based faiths/

>>529833182
And it's definitely a possibility for certain groups within humanity to have evolved preferences for clothing since many cultures put a high emphasis on sexual selection via clothing quality/style.

>>529827720
cultures without a nudity taboo in the way that we have would still probably develop something similar if they used clothing as any sort of status, utilitarian, or decorative element (ie. at all). "you don't have any of the bead necklaces everyone is making with the cool stones we found a bunch of, or any of the cloths the weaver is learning to make draped on you to keep the sun off your back, or the animal hide wraps that make it so your arms don't get scratched up when you work" = your nudity is bad because you aren't interconnected enough to get stuff from others, or following our social patterns, or valuable enough to us to get things to make your life easier
they might not be clothed anywhere near as often/fully as we are, especially when they aren't actively doing stuff they need physical protection or status signifiers for, but there are reasons pretty much every culture historically has worn something, even if it's just to keep the bits from getting scratched up

Some tribal men wear gourds over their penis. And nothing else.

>>529837056
Leaving their asses exposed is asking for trouble.
From me.

>>529837056
Those same people also do shit like body painting and scarification, THOUGH

>>529837056
There's a tribe that has the younger tribesmen perform oral sex on the older tribesmen in order to reach manhood. Dead serious.

Did the Novelcrafter anon updated his offline Novelcrafter? I'm not lurking this thread anymore but I got curious about it suddenly. I know Novelcrafter has a lot of new stuff on how it generates things etc.

>Isekai feMC with the power to invert concepts
>three assassins came into my bedroom
>invert their age, mind and gender
>pat their head

>>529844532
and that's all she did, right?
right...?

>>529846614
gave them some dress and shoes too
actually did the same thing with the mastermind so they're now just a bunch of 10 year olds playing together in the palace's garden

>>529851370
Stupid anon, needs little sister rape correction

>>529846928
That's adorable

lotus eaters in absolute shambles
>yfw someone's chat logs gets used as court evidence

>>529855335
nurse help me

>>529855335
cancer

We have such sights to show you.

>>529858109
What vibes are you using, I like this aesthetic

>>529749330
That sounds based

>>529861598
based on years of unhealed mental trauma

>>529867123
sorry to hear that anon

>>529867776
It's fine; I channel it into my AI porn now

>>529858386
nta
I tried using it as a vibe itself and got this environmental storytelling gem

>>529570048 (OP)
>finally have cool ai game for immersive RPGing
>have no ideas or motivations for a general theme or prompt that i don't either drop immediately or talk my way into becoming god
>can't just free roam since everything is weighted towards starting or contributing to a central quest
man I love AI Roguelite but i just can't get with it lately.
any tips?

>>529883502
You could always use anon's framework and make it a porn game

>>529775737
>Oh, and if you want NSFW with Deepseek, you’ll need a jailbreak. I have two links for you:

lol links... Just guide it to more and more risque shit and boom that shit is fucking disgusting mate.

i just realized the temmie spammer has been using nai to gen his images
man

>be ai roguelite
>instruct game to never create male characters or use he/his pronouns
>also instruct it to never create old/wisened/elder etc. (ugly) characters
>starting area exclusively this, save for a robot despite the fantasy setting
is there a single AI that can understand any of this? not to mention the fact that they can't comprehend futanari

>>529888360
it's the pink elephant problem
quit focusing on the negatives, focus on the positives instead
>everyone in this setting is a hot, bodacious babe wuth big tits

>PayPal no longer works on Chub
Uh oh, looks like someone has to change payment processors.

>>529889359
I wonder if that's why they were cracking down hard

Why is every single South African billionaire an evil cocksucker? Musk, Thiel, for example.

>>529889495
The dutch are an evil people

>>529841958
No, he won't ever do it, and even if he wanted to, he can't, because the company he asked ChatGPT to make code for has DRM protection now. It wasn't even good to begin with. The only reason that troll bothered to make it in the first place was to use it to shit up the thread.

Pftf?
https://litter.catbox.moe/4em4kqlinool3x9w.webp

>>529895508
Won’t lie, I tried the Novelcrafter trial and had no idea how to use the programme, or integrate a model to it. It has a lot of features but it’s complicated

>>529896381
I will never understand the internet chud's obsession with clowns and jesters. They're unsexy.

>>529897545
He's probably got an autistic micropenis. He can't get it up without those bright colors and giggly chuckles. A mental child, developmentally stunted. Disgusting.

>>529897937
It truly is pathetic. This is what Western civilization has fallen to. Such a disagrace. Clowns are spiritual obsolete farm equipment.

>>529897545
I mean, I guess I can see it, it's kinda "crazy chick" without the implied mental illness, skintight outfits, flexibility, a tendency towards the ostentatious and flamboyant, a big thing about putting on a performance... there's certainly things to like.

>>529898398
Women belong in the kitchen, quiet, smiling, and doing labor for me.

Yikes, man. Get some help.

>>529898398
The reason why I like them is that they're jovial and fun-loving. Which, you know, regardless of your sexual preference, aren't those pretty decent qualities for a partner to have?

>>529898887
You are a cuck. A real man doesn't need to rely on a woman to have fun.

I eat cucks for breakfast. Now get over here, spread your ass for me autistic child. Call me the Purple Man, I will murder your prostate.

>>529898398
Qhat's the matter manchild? Did you tuck your tail between your legs and accept defeat? Shill your jester bitch elsewhere. I'm trie of seeing her on my timeline. Rich bastard, I hate artists like you. Always spamming your pics quality comics. Get a real job, Latino bastard.

Anyone have a list of things that makes the resident autist upset, or would that be redundant?

>>529724642
Comedy. Feels like a pretty broad theme that would allow for plenty of stuff, from clown and jester girls (or boys) to more generally comedic conceits, parodies, and whatnot. Maybe even a story about jokes being used as an offensive weapon, literal cutting barbs, the like. Lots of potential.

>>529724642
Why don't we stop pretending that this general isn't dead?

>>529905919
Why don't you stop posting in this "dead" thread?

>>529900915
Name them, we have multiple

I wish to fluff tails.

>>529579550
>>529579790
The models they released are pretty good. They’re cool in my book for helping the hobby.

>>529911937
Mormon has never done anything good for this hobby. His influence died when Coomageddon happened. Quit shilling for him. He does not deserve your praise.
https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

>>529912062
D-Don't bully him, meanie!
He was a retarded college kid who had just graduated back then, he didn't have the balls to go against Altman. Just because he made a lot of mistakes, violated the trust of his subscribers, and tried to wipe all of that under the rug until he couldn't, doesn't mean he's not a totally good boy who didn't do nothing wrong!

>>529911937
I wonder how good they’d be with ai roguelite but I refunded it a while ago

I just found this
https://github.com/neph1/LlamaTale

I'm going to be testing Latitude's Harbinger 24B (and possibly Muse 12B) on it, and post results.

This is good advice to those who fear sharing their storyposts.

>>529913287
Apparently LlamaTale is completely broken, so I won't be posting anything.

>>529911326
mind the dingleberries

>>529915705
Why do you lie?

>>529914854
Who would want to read my stories that DON’T contain smut?

>>529918021
I would?

Okay, I tested Harbinger and found it quite good. See you in another six months.

>>529918954
What happened to posting results?

>>529918954
thank you anonette

>>529918160
Honestly, I think I’ll post one eventually. But I’ll revise some dialogue in the beginning, find a way to make storylosts on KoboldAI (or transfer the story to NAI) before posting it. I don’t think people are interested in Alternate History so I don’t post.

>>529918021
I don't want to read storyposts that contain smut, actually

>>529912062
He is still improving textgen users on AID to this day. Kuru, meanwhile, abandoned us and turned to imagegen slop.
>b-but the update!
Let's wait and see whether will he redeem himself or not. You don't need to suck his cock beforehand.

>>529920575
Have a nice day samefagging yourself and bumping the thread with inept shilling. Nobody here uses Mormon's slop.

Why does Kuru need to redeem himself? I like the product I pay for, unlike AID. Who let people browse my work and violated my trust.

>a company decides to (wisely) invest a modicum of effort into imagegen to acquire funding, instead of relying on investors, who will invariably demand gratutious censorship and monitoring for "abuse"
>in the mind of the deranged crusader, this counts as "abandonment"
Was his mother unkind to him, perhaps? An adopted child, I reckon our resident sperg must be.

I can't control my horny level.

>>529923528

>>529883502
>everything is weighted towards starting or contributing to a central quest
You can disable that in the options when creating a scenario.
I'm kind of the same way though, I've spent a lot of time in the last few days retooling old prompts but not playing them a whole lot.
My favorite so far has been a SFW space exploration prompt about being a bird person surveying worlds in contested space. It's also got status bars that spawn conflicts which has been fun (pic related).
My other favorite is a NSFW post-apocalypse setting that uses >>529611909 and features (or at least should feature) zombies, ghosts, werewolves, aliens, demons, mutants, etc, all trying to fuck you to death.

>>529932846
Also was messing around with a Silent Hill scenario, although I don't really know what to DO with it. Also it spawns so many NPCs still, and Gemini has an awful, fucking AWFUL habit of turning everyone into a snarky smarmy smartass in dialog. Which can be fine in other settings, but not here.
>Oh honey, my silly sweet summer child, your dumb ass is in SILENT HILL!
FUCK OFF.

"Hmmm Humu humu~"

>>529595157
>>529611909
Anyone try to link it to local models?
I was using it with a NovelAI api a while back.
Think I'll reinstall it and give it another go.

>>529923528
Been really bad for me lately too, maybe the government put horny juice in the water.

Here's a tip. Do not give your wife the keys to the corpse closet.

Just tried out the AI Game Master app from the wiki.
A ghost girl killed me while I was feeling her up.

>>529940345
Now you can molest her better as a ghost.

Hooking AI Roguelite up to a local model through LM Studio is easily done!
I haven't used this game in over a year. I don't remember how long it generally takes to create a random starting scenario but it's taking a while and that crashed because it was trying to text gen an encyclopedia at the start menu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ourUUTZm_bM

Teach my hands to coom underwater
Teach my heart to beat without her
I drew her, I drew heeeer

Guide my hand towards the fluff
Close my hands and wait for an answer
I caught her, I caught her

Keep my beak close, our hearts aligned
I see handholding where you see rape
Emotions fold, our trial credit runs dry
I see AGI inside your eyes

We're fading out again
We're fading out again, ooooh

She said: "Larion isn't big enough to live it on your own
I SEE FIRE IN YOUR EYES AND I FEEL COOM IN MY SOUL
YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE COOMGEDDON
I JUST KNOW

KEEP IT IN YOUR PROMPT, IT'S BURIED DEEP INSIDE WITHIN YOUR TOKENS
DON'T YOU COME BACK TO LARION OR I WILL NEVER LET YOU GO
YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE COOMGEDDON
I JUST KNOW"

Keep my beak close, our hearts aligned
I see handholding where you see rape
Emotions fold, our trial credit runs dry
I see AGI inside your eyes

We're fading out again
We're fading out again, oooooh

She said: "Larion isn't big enough to live it on your own
I SEE FIRE IN YOUR EYES AND I FEEL COOM IN MY SOUL
YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE COOMGEDDON
I JUST KNOW

KEEP IT IN YOUR PROMPT, IT'S BURIED DEEP INSIDE WITHIN YOUR TOKENS
DON'T YOU COME BACK TO LARION OR I WILL NEVER LET YOU GO
YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE COOMGEDDON
I JUST KNOW"

Oooooh
Ooooooh
Ooooooooh

Larion isn't big enough to live it on your own
I see fire in your eyes and I feel coom in my soul
You're gonna make it through coomgeddon, I just know,
OOOOOOOOH KNOOOOOW

KEEP IT IN YOUR PROMPT, IT'S BURIED DEEP INSIDE WITHIN YOUR TOKENS
DON'T YOU COME BACK TO LARION OR I WILL NEVER LET YOU GO
YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT THROUGH THE COOMGEDDON
I JUST KNOW

You ever just interrupt a fairy tale just to fuck all the characters?

>>529943179
What story?

Is AI Roguelite sapphire worth it or is deepseek better?

>>529943895
The Three Little Pigs.

>>529943895
>>529943179
I do it in every story and genre

>>529944402
I dont know what that is but I would guess that both are not any better than something local.

>>529944851
AI Roguelite, it's an AI powered RPG. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620

They host a free AI model you can use, there's also one you can pay for. You can also use some other APIs including openrouter, through which I use Deepseek V3.

You can hook it up to a local model too, but I don't have a way to locally run any model that's worth using.

>>529945184
What do you guys put in the world backstory to play in a contemporary and modern setting?
I'm considering this:
"The world is not our own, though it is close enough for fearsome discomfort. Rather, the world inhabited by demons is like ours, but seen through a glass darkly. Evil is palpable and ubiquitous in this world. The end is upon us, and the whole planet teeters on a razor's edge of tension. It is a World of Darkness."

>>529949054
>"The world is not our own, though it is close enough for fearsome discomfort. Rather, the world inhabited by demons is like ours, but seen through a glass darkly. Evil is palpable and ubiquitous in this world. The end is upon us, and the whole planet teeters on a razor's edge of tension. It is a World of Darkness."
kek
It's generating a bunch of demon worshipper cults as factions.

>>529949054
I'm trying to figure that out.
Currently I'm trying to tweak the system prompt. I did it like this:
In the in-game options, go to the "Mods" tab and create a mod
In the game's install directory there's a directory called "ai-roguelite-config". The system prompt is in default/chatgpt-preambles/general_question_answerer_preamble.txt
Find your mod under the my-mods directory and create a folder inside it called chatgpt-preambles and copy the file I mentioned earlier into it
Click the checkbox in the Mods tab to enable your mod. If you edit the text you can uncheck and check it again to reload it without restarting the game.
To see if it's working press tilde and open player.log. It outputs all the prompts it sends there.

>>529949054
Maybe specifying that it is an "urban fantasy" setting may help
That's usually enough for the stories I write

>>529951074
My AI Roguelite client keeps timing out while the LM Studio server keeps running and generating more background info text.
I have ComfyUI up and running, it appears to be working, it gen'd up a player pic.
Super strange

>>529954632
Going into the config files and adding a longer timeout time and removied the status bar feature allowed the game to work through LMStudio and ComfyUI
This has potential to be very kinoludo

>>529944402
it's really not worth it—deepseek is on a completely different planet
sapphire's sound generation thing is broken all the time, but I'll admit that it does give you some next level banshee screams

>>529610576
Download noass, squash the user role and bracket your response with "(( OCC: continue, with this prompt in mind: " and "))"

>>529954632
You'd better have an absolute monster of a PC to be running both text and imagegen locally at the same time for AIRL. Recommend offboarding text to some sort of cloud service, whether it be OR or just one of the AIRL options. Try out the free tier text to get a feel for the speed, pretty sure all of them are using Gemini Flash so they're fast as hell compared to other options. No more than 1 minute to set up a new game even on free tier. Local imagegen is fine since imagegen doesn't slow down the game, at worst there will be placeholder images for a little bit while it catches up.

>>529966908
I just have a 4060, it's not too bad
The image gen is quicker than the text gen by a long shot.

>>529968084
Switch to AIRL free tier immediately in that case, we think it's Gemini Flash 2.0, it is much better than any local model you can run on a 4060

>>529969058
I'll give it a try. The local couldn't run with status bars enabled for some reason.

>>529969878
That's weird

https://files.catbox.moe/oovii4.el
- fix padding a space for some models, for real.
- Previously, some models (ex Llama 4) didn't have a space before its first token `likethis`. Now it all should add a space before the first token correctly now.
- internal refactor for antislop regex.
- commit ID ff8061411a8e57fd442012d238287c1ce8b9c707

>>529570048 (OP)
The poll for this month’s Theme Event is now open! Go vote‼
https://strawpoll.ai/poll/vote/hzehxvia8wRP

>>529981108
u set it to close today

>>529981907
Fixed!

Now's your time to advocate for your theme, those who suggested and those excited for one. Sell it to those about to vote!

Novel can do Western/non-anime pretty well too. As someone who can’t really run local gen it’s a decent alternative.

>>529630880
>a character who got hit by a breast enlargement curse before the adventure started.
now this is top tier design. i'm going to create the same thing

wtf is Independence Day

>>529987646
American Independence Day, aka 4th of July

>>529989502
But Jews still control them.

>>529987646
an alien movie

>>529983189
Very neat, Anon

How gay are you from 1 to 10?

>>530007743
no homo

>>530007743
I like men

>>530007743
I'd fuck it.

>>530007743
like a 7

>>530007743
3

>>530007743
Gae for furshit and such, completely repulsed by actual humans being faggots.

>>530007743
I think I'm fully straight, but I also like futa on female. Maybe one day AI will be able to give a definitive answer on if that makes me gay or not.

>>530007743
How would liking femboys be rated on the scale?

>copy paste from fandom wiki and ask models to turn characters info into a NAI lorebooks
>find official arts/fanarts featuring characters you want, then asked models to write prompt based on the images
I should know this workflow sooner. Multimodal models are based.

In AI roguelite how do I make coom scenarios? Do I need to make my own mod?
No matter what I customize it has like edgy DnD shit mixed in

>>530031160
Making your own mod would help, yes

I think I like yinglets.

They're like, dollar store kobolds.

I'll stop now.

Do you guys rehash the same character but in different scenarios all the time? Do you take one scenario and keep making copies of it to make slight modifications in the direction it goes?

>>530039358
Yep. I create an altogether new scenario maybe twice per year.

>>530007743
I want to say 7.
But if being married to a guy makes it a 10, then so be it.,

>>530039358
pretty much, yeah. on occasion i add a new character to the rotation of ones i put in situations, but i have my little pool of ones i play around with that i don't have much interest in breaking from

>>530039358
I guess it depends on what the same character is, I'll often end up going to the same archetype, but they'll have different situations, origins, that sort of stuff. So I've recently found myself revisiting the concept of a haughty, arrogant ice prince kind of guy that softens when confronted with someone genuinely struggling with their mental state and begrudgingly helps them, and he's been a idle rich from a family with a vineyard empire, a bartender at a trendy bar, or a baker at a little anarchist bake shop, among others. The stories develop differently, but similarly, if that makes sense. Similar thing with the muscular military dommy mommy type that likes the scrawny, earnest recruits, sometimes she's a Greek submarine captain that reeks of ouzo, sometimes she's a Scottish demolitions expert that wears a kilt around base (nobody dares tell her that's not regulation).

>>530039358
Yeah, I only have a few different scenarios that I play and see where those take me

Hello anons, this is your reminder to respect women. Don't forget to take the time to respect the women in your stories!

>>530048342
I prefer to be the one respected. Respected long and hard until I cry and my personality breaks down until I can't live without respect because it's what I deserve for my behavior.

>>530034324
The thing I wouldn't appreciate about Yinglets is they're canonically low IQ. I guess there's sort of a hidden subtext that kobolds are probably lower average IQ than a human, but for Yinglets it's directly stated. I'd prefer a truly brilliant animal to a dumbass humanoid any day.

>>530039358
I used to use the same character for everything because I'm bad with names, but now I force myself to come up with unique ones pretty much every time
That being said, I do reiterate on the same stories over and over again and take my favorite parts from each run and make it "canon."

It seems I have just about enough VRAM to run deepseek qwen r1 and noobai in parallel. Is there an st extension or setup that lets me have a text adventure with images automatically generated? Sort of roguelite ai but more straightforward.

>>530056535
I claim death of the author. We can big brain them. As for kobolds, they're actually pretty clever. It's all those disgusting goblin fetishists pouring over that have tried to make them dumb.

>don't like a character in my story, have her abruptly get shot by a sniper and killed intending for it to be a throwaway gag
>AI doesn't read it as a joke and treats it dead seriously, get an extended description of her getting realistically and graphically injured by the bullet and slowly dying while her friends try and fail to save her, ending with them bawling over her corpse
what the fuck was I thinking, I think I legit traumatized myself

>>530065562
>It's all those disgusting goblin fetishists pouring over that have tried to make them dumb.
Speaking of, I've been enjoying smart goblins lately. Retaining some aspects of them like the kleptomancy and pyromania, but offset by genuine talent and discipline in other things. Hyperactive spazzes when they aren't fixated on their projects, which explains the reputation in-universe for their supposed stupidity.
I like playing with stereotypes like that, neither going all-in nor rejecting the tropes outright

>>530034732
Lizards are not kobolds. Fuck contemporary society and its historical revisionism. Lizards are not kobolds.

>>530071395
What kind of lizard has fur?

>>530071672
This is not a kobold. No matter what the tags say. It's a fucking lizard.

>>530072139
Japanese detected.

Sorry, pal. The world left dogbolds behind a long time ago.

>>530073687
Dog "kobolds" aren't kobolds, either. These are kobolds. They're house spirits. German house spirits.

>>530074010
That ain't no kobold.

This is a kobold!

>>530074010
There's too many types of "tiny humans who live in your house"
A little variety is the spice of life

>>530074527
Making up bullshit to shove an OC species everyone's throat is just one of many sins DnD has committed against society. Fuck your "variety" and "spice". Give me a real kobold.

Those are all gnomes.

>>530074748
No, those are definitely brownies

>>530074010
Your mom's a German house spirit

>>530074645
>Give me a real kobold.
what will you do with this short, bearded man?

>>530077964
There are no laws against the kobolds, Batman.

>>530078154
fae law is a tricky thing to navigate

AI Roguelite + Latitude's Harbinger 24 B + NoobAI = GOAT

>>530080908
Will you share any results with the class?

>>530081126
They're too gay (figuratively). I dare not.

>>530081254
Then fuck off.

Well, maybe when I start a new story I will. This one is kind of personal.

>>530050761

>>530081410
please do

>>530050761
same

>>530000000

>>530078519
There's a fun game about being an information resource phone operator for helping normal people deal with increasingly dire and high-stakes fae/human interactions. We're talking changeling-tier stuff and worse. The game part comes from correctly identifying what kind of paranormal event is specifically effecting each caller.

>>530102131
Yeah, /aids/ isn't all that bad, relatively speaking.

>>530107021
I wish I still had the screenshot of the get we got about mommy issues

>>530102178
Oh, I think I've heard of that before

>>529570048 (OP)
A femme fatale chooses you as her latest victim, a stalker pays your apartment a visit in the dead of night, or, perhaps, that damsel you met at the train station has some skeletons in her closet... Whatever the case may be, your life’s in jeopardy when an unstable woman enters it. This month, let’s write stories for Crazy Chicks Month!
The event itself shall commence on the 25th, that evening, and shall continue until the following Sunday (the 27th) evening!

>>530116918
That was more unanimous than I thought it was going to be

>Start a story as a republican grifter like Tom Poole/Asmongold
>plan on just being generally evil and immoral
>End up spending 6 hours role-playing a loving relationship with an 18 year old innocent discord kitten my character groomed to be his live in maid

>>530116918
Oh no, she's Monitoring us!

I keep making horror-themed scenarios in AIRL but have no idea what the hell to do with them goal/quest-wise or how to proceed in-game...

>>530123063
I'm assuming it's botted bullshit or something given how one-sided the vote, and how few people even participate.

>>530124004
i keep getting one shot by ethereal enemies

>be me
>straight up use DeepSeek v3.1 to generate completions for stories
>no instruct prompting or template, just feed it straight up input and see what comes out
>it just werks
>keeps track of characters and relationships that Erato struggles with
stupid question I know, but why don't they just fine-tune deepseek? they even have a base model to start from. fuck, even the raw base would probably be solid.

>>530126193
they'll probably do something like that when it's time to actually do something (which could have been a few months ago - we're clueless about their activities)
V3 even has a base version available

>>530126682
>we're clueless about their activities
Except we're not? Kuru has stated multiple times in recent history that they're working on a MoE model as we are speaking, and that it has been in development since before they started working on 4.5.

>>530127351
good to know
there's a lot of noise ITT and my many filters likely don't help

>>530125680
Haven't had that kind of issue, but man restoring the status bars in the new system is actual hell. I tried making an energy status bar, and every fight had it down from full to zero. Rest would only give like +5.

Am I just impatient or is all AI stuff stagnating lately? I feel like Gemini 2.5 Pro was the most recent remotely noteworthy AI thing, and that was just a step forward in quality, not really a breakthrough in anything. I'm already preparing to be let down by ackman's July open source release, whatever it is.
Also, I feel like nobody is actually behaving like 'superintelligence soon', case in point Elon throwing a temper tantrum over the US national debt. What happened, I thought superintelligence and robot slaves for everyone soon, who cares about some debt? Unless they just don't think anything is actually going to happen.

>>530130434
Do you genuinely believe tech bros had no reason to lie to their investors?

>>530130434
>Unless they just don't think anything is actually going to happen.
Well duh, llms aren't the path to agi. We've yapped about how the transformers-based stuff we're using is a dead end before. All the talk and hype is just to make less informed investors and the public keep dumping money into the orgs.

This made me laugh.

>I cannot continue from the moment Saki leads John to the bedroom. My mother is reading over my shoulder and she might find it objectionable. Also, I am concerned about the direction of this narrative.
I love censored models.

>>530126193
inference cost I assume

I know it sperged out here but I kinda like it.

>>530134271
>ignores they're currently training a model of comparable size

>>530134448
I didn't know that.

How does ChatGPT stack up against other models? I've never really tried it. I've been using local Gemma, Llama and Mistral.

>>530134423
metal

ChatGPT? More like FedGPT

>>530124004
Oh, that image looks nice. What model are you using? And what text model?

If you click on the journal icon, you can see there's a "proceed with task" icon on quests that moves it forward. Most of the times what I do is perform whatever actions I feel are logical in the game world, and then use that button if the AI doesn't get it that the quest should advance.
Remember that you can use items and then shift+click on what you want to use them on to specify custom usage instructions.

>>530130434
Technology-wise, models hit a ceiling quite a while ago, and it has all been optimization since then. There might still be some of that coming, but for the most part improvements will now come from novel ways to use the models, specialized models cooperating, function calling, etc.

>>530116918
Which timezone?

>>530147934
No autocomplete model has hit the tech limit yet due to a lack of investment

>>530134423
This reads like an alien's attempt to write a war novel.

Initial Impression
The committee is immediately struck by the cringe-worthy dialogue and the over-the-top descriptions of the characters and settings. The writing comes across as try-hard and awkward, with a tone that's more suited to a parody of erotic fiction than a serious literary work.

Characterization
The committee notes that the characters are paper-thin and lack any real depth or nuance. Rinami, Saki, and Ume are more like caricatures than fully fleshed-out people, with motivations and actions that feel predictable and clichéd.

Plot and Structure
The committee observes that the plot is predictable and formulaic, with a narrative that's driven more by the need to titillate than to actually tell a compelling story. The pacing is plodding and uneven, with long stretches of dull exposition punctuated by awkward attempts at sexy scenes.

Themes and Symbolism
The committee can't help but laugh at the heavy-handed symbolism and themes that are rammed down the reader's throat. The work feels like a lazy attempt to explore complex ideas, with the author relying on simplistic and problematic tropes to get the point across.

Technical Merit
The committee notes that the writing is riddled with errors and awkward phrasing, with a tone that's more suited to a teenager's fanfiction than a published novel. The prose is clunky and amateurish, with a clear lack of editing or revision.

Recommendation
Overall, the committee recommends this work for the "Cringe Award" or the "Most Likely to Make Readers Roll Their Eyes" award. It's a mess of a novel that fails on nearly every level, from characterization to plotting to technical merit.

Possible "Awards"
Based on this review, the Novel Prize committee might consider awarding this work a humorous "award" like the "Golden Kitsch Award" or the "Bad Sex in Fiction Award". Alternatively, they might simply recommend it as a cautionary tale for aspiring writers, a reminder of what not to do when crafting a novel.

>>530155125
wut?

>>530156297
He’s using an instruct model to diss an autocomplete model

>>530161583
>he can't even diss it himself
He proved nothing with that self-own, then.

>>530134271
Deepseek's memory requirements are much more limiting than inference costs. There's a reason why it's so cheap on OR.
>>530134448
Source on that?

>>530162986
The Discord. It's a MoE model. DeepSeek is also a MoE model. Put two and two together.

>>530163207
nta but it wouldn't surprise me one bit judging by how they chased the llama trend. if you account for the time training takes, this would mean they started chasing the deepseek trend right when that model wowed everyone

they could've trained another one from scratch with their dataset, or finetuned mistral small or nemo, but no, they must chase trends and deliver cold food

i'm so glad i bought my hardware for local

>>530163973
>cold food
>when DeepSeek is indisputably the best model on the market right now
>local
>when nobody can run triple digit beaks locally
Whatever you say, buddy. Mistral and Nemo are shit, and they are training one from scratch. A MoE model, not a fine-tune, a custom Super Kayra MoE.

>>529570048 (OP)
what is best local model or paid service for loli ryona erp. i spent 200$ on chatgpt pro and feel like retard when it censors itself.

>>530163207
I get that. I'm looking for the source that says it's of comparable size and not, say, a 180B MoE model.

>be me, software engineer isekai'd into the afterlife due to an "unfortunate accident"
>(in ai roguelite)
>spend 10 irl hours running around yomi no kuni, helping lost souls cross, vanquishing vengeful spirits, and reuniting star-struck lovers across timelines or some shit
>tfw barely explored one location, of one region, in a world with dozens
>hours in come across a mirror that connects to the world of the living
>my fucking manager comes out of it
>"the woman who had smiled at you in meetings, who had shared coffee in break rooms"
>"the sharp angles of her face, once softened by practiced smiles, now cut like obsidian as her cold gaze pierces through you"
>"speaks in the same familiar voice that once discussed quarterly reports"
>vanquish her
>she relives on the other side of the mirror
>confesses she was the one that pushed me out of a window
>she now asks for my help in weaponizing lost souls in-between worlds
>"you always were the best at making systems work"

I did not expect AIRL to deliver kino.

The bitch tried to trick me and unleashed her bound spirits on me.

>>530164154
DeepSeek V3 0324 on OpenRouter. If you have the budget, you can make it local too.

>>530164154
>Paying for Loli ERP
>When you can get paid for it.

>>530134448
They didn't say about the size, only that it's a moe.

>>530171492
They did. But you're free to believe whatever you want, leech. This conversation is meaningless, for you will move the goalposts whenever it suits your desires. For you don't give a damn about textgen. All you care about is shitting up the thread. Have a nice day.

>>530134423
>earth loses purpose of motion
I hate it when that happens

>MoE models can be about 10x bigger, if weight sizes are what satisfies you
Biggest model is 70B.
Therefore it's about 700B, give or take a standard deviation. Meaning comparable to DeepSeek.

>out of context

>>530172654
There is nothing out of context about that quote, directly from the damn CEO's mouth. You will never amount to anything in life.

MoE models can be about 10x larger, which they will then show by releasing their Kayra-based MoE model sticking 8 Kayras together for a 104B model that is larger than Erato. Nothing Kuru said would contradict this being a possibility. We simply do not have the information at this time and insisting that what he said obviously means 700B range like DeepSeek V3 is exactly the reason why they don't share information anymore because people immediately paint the most outrageous picture and then believe in it all the way until they're disappointed by the actual result based on nothing but their own fantasies.

>>530164154
You can also try Gemini, it has a free API but you get $300 in credits if you add a billing account. Not so sure about the goon potential though.

>>530168510
Aren’t you guys sick of Deepseek’s prose and dialogue? Seems like I am treading over the same tropes every damn story despite the differences they have. (And why it looks like I’m shilling for Gemini). Still good for gooning though.

>>530173491
You serve no purpose but to be a contrarian. How much are you getting paid to shit up the thread?

>>530173729
>Aren’t you guys sick of Deepseek’s prose and dialogue
I absolutely am

>>530173729
I generate with temp 2.5 and minP 0.2. Rerolls are radically different.

Nothing Kuru said somehow prevents it from being a 700B model, either. Just saying, man. The town CoreWeave's servers are located in got a shipment of chips.

>>530173491
Present your evidence for why it must obviously be nothing but eight kayras strung together. You choose to believe in the most pessimistic interpretation of every single thing NAI has ever done it its existence.

>>530174040
Even if the truth's somewhere in the middle, pretending like a big jump in beak size, context size, and comprehension is somehow a disappointment is ludicrous.

>>530174040
Watch it be a 32 MoE lol faggot console warring naishill.

And there we go. Hurr durr out of context man has revealed he has nothing but spam left in his argument pouch.

>>530173917
Isn’t there a cap on temp though? Or from what I’ve heard here.

>>530174797
It depends on the provider. From provider to provider they have different supported settings and different caps for settings.

>>530174797
This thread is filled with liars shills fan boys and cucks

>>530174797
IIRC the official API does but providers can do whatever

>>530174913
>>530174962
I know OR has multiple providers but do they also allow higher temp? Between all 4 Deepseek models, which is better, I’ve always used R1 and its update although I do use V3 sometimes due to advice from here.

>>530175460
I use Kluster for my DeepSeek V3 right now and I can definitely crank the temperature to a point where it spits out complete and utter gibberish.

>>530175460
the latest R1 and V3 are pretty much tied imo, with one doing better than the other depending on the task
I much prefer the latter for storytelling, but R1 would likely be a better assistant

this thread has no reason for existing

>>530148982
Eastern Standard Time / UTC -5.

Guys stop arguing. Why do you even care about NovelAI anymore?
Do you want kino models of all sizes? Look no further:

https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames/Wayfarer-12B-GGUF
https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames/Muse-12B-GGUF
https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames/Harbinger-24B-GGUF
https://huggingface.co/LatitudeGames/Wayfarer-Large-70B-Llama-3.3-GGUF

I'm only half-memeing. Harbinger is GOOD.

And of course he's back to shilling Mormon's slop.

>>530179419
You still haven't posted a single screenshot, shill. Make your own thread.

>>530179557
I posted these.
>>530166663
>>530167361

I'm surprised nobody made fun of me yet.

>>530179870
>AI Roguelike
Useless for storytelling purposes. That is why people care about NovelAI. For storytelling. Not this game shit that randomly got added to the OP. You're free to enjoy it, but don't pretend like it made NovelAI obsolete.

>>530179419
I wouldn't be surprised if it were good considering the alternatives are mostly chat tunes

>>530151807
An illegal alien?

>>530179419
i like the 70b

>>530181041
I wish I could run it. But I could only possibly run the Q1 quant... What hardware are you running on?

>>530181591
16gb 4070, i7, ddr5. q4m and 16k context. not super fast since offloading to ram but worth it

>>530180253
Ironically, it's great as a story mode, textge, or chat model, but not as an instruct one, because it's kind of broken. In AI Roguelite it leaks prose where it shouldn't constantly.
But it's good prose.
>>530182531
Huh. I have a 24 GB 3090 with 48 GB of ddr4 RAM. Maybe I should try?