"Winter has come" Edition, and so have I.

>What the heck is this
/indie/ is the general for all indie games, such as Age of Decadence, A Hat in Time, Axiom Verge, Baba Is You, Battle Brothers, Card City Nights 2, Cave Story, Civilization, CrossCode, Cultist Simulator, Darkest Dungeon, Darkwood, DashBored, Dead Cells, The Desolate Hope, Disco Elysium, Environmental Station Alpha, FTL, Hollow Knight: Silksong, Knytt, LISA, Lobotomy Corp, Loop Hero, Machinarium, Middens, Monolith, Monster Train, Noita, OFF, OneShot, Rimworld, Rain World, Slay the Spire, Starsector, Subnautica, Sunless Skies, Underrail, VA-11 HALL-A, Yume Nikki, etc., as well as other games that just don't fit in any other general such as Atelier, Pillars of Eternity, Rayman, and Valkyria Chronicles. /jrpg/ is welcome. Idle, roguelite, shmup, 4x / RTS / city-builders, and RPGMaker games are cool too.

Mobile or consoles, Flash or Unity, freeware or early access. This place is a home for the indie game community and indie and obscure games that don't have a home. So be free to talk and share all your hidden gems, forgotten games and starving devs here.

>Can I talk about games that already have a general?
We mostly discuss games that are not popular enough for their own threads, however, all indie games are allowed. So talk about them if you want, but don't overdo it since you already have other generals for that.

>Recommendations
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>Booru
https://indiegame.booru.org/

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https://steamcommunity.com/groups/indiegamesgeneral

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>Previous Thread
>>528740835

>spoderfäg returns

Whens Scav being added to the OP

It gets talked enough to warrant an inclusion

>>529737410
it is only you anon

>>529737410
>torture fetish game
eh. does it really need to be the face of the general?

>>529738839
Are we really gonna go over this every time it's mentioned?

Citadel is a fetish game, you're encouraged to manage your cute anime girl foes until you can see their guts, we had a fucking screenshot on steam of gore fappers gushing over it

Scav is not a fetish game, for you are heavily discouraged to not injure your expie, as it makes your run harder, and makes the player feel bad

>its not a fetish mom!

>>529739141
no, it is.
>almost everything is designed to pose some threat to the player that isnt immediate and direct damage.
>instead, things slowly kill the player and make things much harder
>usually throughout a run, these things end up stacking
>a game over state usually involves so many problems being stacked up that you cant do anything and are forced to watch as the character slowly dies
its a torture fetish game.
if "buh the thing makes it harder!" is a valid argument then i've got a whole list of fat fetish games that actually arent fetishistic at all.

>>529739736
dense as fuck
>almost everything is designed to pose some threat to the player that isnt immediate and direct damage.
>instead, things slowly kill the player and make things much harder
To give the player a chance to mitigate what happened to them, and there is instant deaths too, it depends on RNG. You can get a second wind close to death too to help you back from the brink
>usually throughout a run, these things end up stacking
Perhaps on your first few runs, but once you've played for enough time you know what to look out for and can reach a deep enough level with a good mood and without many injuries
>a game over state usually involves so many problems being stacked up that you cant do anything and are forced to watch as the character slowly dies
Again, depends on RNG, sometimes a perfect run can be ended because of a turret or mine or pressure plate

And no, the fat fetish games or any other smut game will put it front and center to try to elicit a fap out of the player, the suffering in Scav comes when the player fucks up, aka, making a mistake, aka, doing something they are not supposed to do

why do I bother, at least this keeps the thread bumped

>>529740403
look anon, its ok to like fetish games.
you dont have to pretend that its not, you just take that kind of stuff to /trash/

>>529740934
Nta but Scav looks more like a survival game taken to the extreme rather then straight up fetish material, I've seen the clips though I've yet to play it

>>529739141
Someone who just wandered into this, butI can't even figure out what games you're talking about. What are the full titles instead of abbreviations?

>>529746470
Scav Prototype, a 2d survival game featuring injures and a moral system, low moral can cause your PC to harm themselves/go mental. Extremely brutal and furry, but can be pretty fun

Beyond Citadel, a DOOM like that's straight up guro, not worth discussing, Scav at least has arguments for being an actual game but there's no defending Citadel

>>529704068
>>529704394
>>529705247
I've given it some more thought and started to narrow it down.
So what makes exploration on random maps uninteresting is how I am aware that it's randomly generated. So the purpose of exploration is to find resource nodes or handcrafted points of interest, everything in between is just filler, while in a handcrafted world the distinction is less clear.

But the purpose of the open world also matters. I think I don't mind procedural generation in games like Minecraft, Vintage Story, Terraria, Favtorio etc. because the main focus (for me) is to build a base and the open world just serves as a backdrop for that. For that same reason I don't really care for the handcrafted world in Satisfactory.
However in a game like Subnautica or the Forest for instance, exploration is a bigger part of the game.
Or something along those lines. It's a bit hard to nail my feelings down here

>>529731171 (OP)
>"Winter has come" Edition, and so have I.
You're supposed to copy the OP from the pastebin not the previous thread you silly oaf

>>529748901
Eventually Milky will get added as a playable character, they don't self-harm, they vomit and go catatonic at low moods.

>>529749382
Dude, that paste has been dead for ages.
I was waiting to see how long it would take for anyone to notice but I guess this is as good moment as any.
The recs paste is equally pointless as it is 10 years old.
Dead pastes.
Dead thread.

>>529739736
reminder
this retard has been trying to push the exact same shit over and over again every thread for almost a month and then just puts his head into sand the moment he gets btfod like a sissy bitch
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/527874072/#q528483429
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/526689130/#527664473
i am down with scavgame in op

>>529750816
neither of those are me.

>>529748901
morale

>>529750875
then you have more than enough base to go off by adressing all the counter-arguments that were left unanswered in the previous threads in order to convince us that scav doesn' belong in the op

>>529739736
You really seem like you're offended by people pointing out citadel is a fetish game and you're trying to take it out on scav.

>>529750929
Fuck it's 2 am gimme a break lol

An cute pollack cyborg.

>>529748901
>a DOOM like
What a retard take. It's closer to a Build engine game, and it was inspired by Marathon.
>anon is a furfag
Well that really tells me everything I need to know. Yiff in hell.

>>529751716
Now you're just being a contrarian.

>game crashes on start in dx11 mode
>only works in dx12 mode
>open weapon customization menu before acquiring any customizations
>instant ctd
>die and respawn
>bugged copy of first main quest is added to your log every time
Mmmmm, now that's proper indie jank.

>>529751041
the big difference between scav and games like zomboid, where its simply in depth, is delivery and focus.
take the walking on glass thing for example.
that alone? of course not.
but suppose a pile of glass was placed in front of the entrance to almost every building, you didnt start with shoes, and the only way to get shoes is to go inside a building.
you can try looking for the buildings that arent protected by glass, sure, but that'll take so long that you'll probably die before then.
and then when you are inevitably forced to cut yourself, the game throws a debuff at you along with lowering a few meters and making the character uncontrollable for a few seconds as they go limp (causing even more injury)
suppose zomboid was filled to the brim with situations like this, where you can technically avoid self torture, but you have to in order to survive.
and then after being forced to engage with enough of these situations you lose control of your character and it kills itself.
that is scav, that is why its a torture fetish game. its explicitly designed to create torturous situations you can technically avoid, but are more or less forced to engage with unless you get lucky.
and if you take away the torture system, the game is left with literally fucking nothing (for comparison, you could take away walking-on-glass-barefoot from zomboid and it'd still be the same exact game)
as for why it shouldnt be in the op, i just dont think fetish games are a good way to represent what the thread is about.
>>529751075
i never said that citadel isnt a fetish game???

My stance is:
Guro in citadel is not supplementary to the gameplay. If you remove guro and keep everything else as is - game would play exactly the same. This makes the guro aspect a tack-on that exists only to appeal to a certain group.
Misery in scav is not just gameplay relevant - it's gameplay derived and forms an integral part of the game. You are actively encouraged to not make the protagonist suffer, and there are mechanics that directly reward high mood, and this affects your decisionmaking on the most basic level. From "well, this corpse doesn't seem to have loot, i better not strain expie's psyche by forcing him to take a look at it it" to "shit, time to pop my last fent syringe".
>but furry is a fetish, why is scav furry? you could make player play as a human and nothing would change
While true that aesthetics play a supplementary role, the game makes a good use of them. They're both gameplay and world relevant: expie is a canine and food with coffeine is toxic, which creates interesting gameplay situations; your jaw slot is much larger than one of a human, and there are gameplay-relevant mechanics to holding stuff in your mouth; and as few anons itt said before, it makes them feel much more sympathic towards expie because they're by default weaker and smaller than an average human.
>>529752683
>and then after being forced to engage with enough of these situations you lose control of your character and it kills itself.
>that is scav
You're pulling this out of your ass. Even your "glass shard" example is not relevant, because there's more than enough of gameplay depth to justify their existence in scav. Will you break through glass to save on stamina, but risk having to deal with shards? Are you in a good enough state of mind to actually notice all the shards? What if there's water on the other side, and it could wash the shard towards you, are you willing to take the risk?
Refer to the rest of my post for other points.

>>529753223
While it's true that furries are more often sexualized than not, furry is not a style that exists solely for the purpose of sexualization.
Sonic and starfox weren't made with furry characters for the purpose of sexualization.

>>529749421
I have yet to see the black furry kill himself. I always die before I even get to the point where the black furry does self harm, not that I particularly want to see it.

>>529731171 (OP)
What game is this? What's the best game in this genre? Wasteland?

>>529687343
Megumin is more important to me than cheevos.

>>529753223
>You're pulling this out of your ass. Even your "glass shard" example is not relevant, because there's more than enough of gameplay depth to justify their existence in scav. Will you break through glass to save on stamina, but risk having to deal with shards? Are you in a good enough state of mind to actually notice all the shards? What if there's water on the other side, and it could wash the shard towards you, are you willing to take the risk?
again, delivery.
if it were a simple risk/reward thing like that, sure.
but scav goes well beyond risk/reward and turns it into a whole different beast.
using the "state of mind" thing as a PERFECT example. its the shit like
>well achually, your character simply didnt notice the glass
>now you're ragdolling down a 50 foot chasm with spikes at the bottom!
>those spikes will ragdoll you again and make you suffocate in a pool of water
>once you finally gain control again, your character will be much, much worse for wear and are one bad thing away from suici- hey look a corpse!
that makes it go from reasonable depth to fetish shit.
like i said, the game is designed to maximize instances like this. where you can do nothing but watch as your character goes through several different torturous events. purely because
and plans to add a "this character will go catatonic and cry himself to sleep at low mood" isnt exactly helping your point about it not being a torture/misery fetish game
1/2

>>529753223
>>529755570
>You are actively encouraged to not make the protagonist suffer, and there are mechanics that directly reward high mood
i could, again, make this argument to turn a whole list of fat fetish games into regular games.
there are quite a few where reaching a certain weight threshold results in a game over state, and along the way things get harder due to stacking maluses.
most hazards within said games are also designed to fatten the MC.
from a basic gameplay perspective this encourages you to stay at a lower weight throughout and to avoid most hazards
does this make it so that they are not fetish games?
no, it does not. the intent is still that you'll see the higher weights and then eventually lose.
and the same is true for scav, the game's focus is on all the misery crap. the game is designed to maximize misery and torture of the MC, almost everything having some drawback that results in more pain even if it helps mend.

>>529755570
It doesn't sound sexual at all.

>>529756919
because you dont have a misery fetish.

>>529756963
No, it's because the characters clearly aren't sexualized.

>>529757420
(said argument can again be made against quite a few fat fetish games)

>>529757465
All of those games use characters that are clearly made to be sexually attractive in some way.
So no.

>>529757615
you take one look at furry art and tell me that expies arent meant to be sexually attractive to furries.

>>529757692
Yeah, no. That style is very rare in furry porn compared to others.

>>529757862
its still meant to be sexually appealing to furries.

>>529757916
Substantiate your claim.

>>529758097
im not going onto e621 just to prove that furries find anthros attractive.
because it should be the most obvious shit.

>>529753223
>You are actively encouraged to not make the protagonist suffer
You're sometimes encouraged to deflate in Tribal Hunter, but that doesn't mean it's not an inflation fetish game.

>>529758147
It doesn't matter what furries find attactive, furries find MLP's ponies attractive. MLP clearly wasn't made to be sexually appealing to furries.
Your claim has no evidence.

>>529758320
and MLP ponies have cartoonish designs with minimal detail. meanwhile the expie in scav has dithering meant to give a prominent appearance of fur.

>>529758492
It's completely asexual design.

>>529755570
>>well achually, your character simply didnt notice the glass
literally not the case. again, you're pulling this out of your ass.
being mentally impaired in some way, depressed or otherwise sick creates a shader effect that can make noticing glass shards more difficult, but it doesn't make them impossible. better yet, there's a redundancy mechanic that allows you to clearly know where every single object on the screen is as long as you're conscious, if you know how to use it. you not noticing the glass shard is literally your mistake as player, it's not forced, and can be avoided, and a more experienced player will ALWAYS avoid it. this is pure gameplay, just like avoiding hitting glass windows with bare hands in zomboid.
you haven't played the game you're arguing about, discrediting your whole stance.

>>529758640
the lack of male/female characteristics does not make the design non-sexual to furries.
>>529759029
i played it for two hours and then decided it was torture fetish crap.
>literally not the case. again, you're pulling this out of your ass.
hey, you're the one that explained it like that. not me.
so here lemme correct it,
>>well achually, you didnt notice the glass because your character is le depressed and it applied a shader that makes grass look like foliage
happy now, torturefag?

>>529759234
>the lack of male/female characteristics does not make the design non-sexual to furries
And this is irrelevant to whether it's a fetish game or not.
Your argument is pathetic.

>>529759234
>>>well achually, you didnt notice the glass because your character is le depressed and it applied a shader that makes grass look like foliage
no, it doesn't look like foliage. there are no deceiving mechanics in relation to glass shards. it looks like a glass shard, blown up by a shader. and you can literally hover your cursor over it and it will say "Glass Shard (50)".
you are an idiot.

>>529759349
you're the one that brought it up. i simply responded to it.

>>529759393
you're the one that said >>529753223
>Are you in a good enough state of mind to actually notice all the shards?
have you considered explaining better, or is your brain too rotted by torture porn to think straight?

>>529759403
You claimed the game was made to be sexually attractive to furries. But you haven't been able to provide any evidence that is the case and your argument is "well furries think they're sexy", which would make MLP a fetish cartoon or sonic the hedgehog a fetish game.
You're deranged.

>>529759559
there's a difference between "intentionally sexually appealing to X group" and "accidentally sexually appealing to X group"
in the case of furries, they find ALL animalistic designs sexually appealing.
if you cant tell the difference, you've been incredibly sheltered and i envy you.

>>529759741
So scav and its characters were not made to be sexually attractive to furries, as you previously claimed.

>>529759505
let me rephrase this:
>do you trust yourself to still notice a distorted image of the glass shard, despite your character having issues with perception?
since you are not smart enough to understand the most obvious nuances of the language you speak

>>529759840
they are. playing stupid gets you nowhere.
>>529759901
ok see if you just said
>low mood causes a shader that distorts most things, making it hard to notice glass.
from the beginning this conversation could've taken a completely different direction.
regardless, its still a bad look for the thread
if i enter a thread and see
>oh yeah bro my anthro got stabbed by a glass shard and then slowly bled out while i tried to find a bandage, then when i finally did he had a mental break and killed himself because he ragdolled into a pool of shit 20 minutes ago and it made him pretty sad because he also got septic poisoning
i am NOPEing the fuck out of the thread and not going there ever again.

I hate this bitch so goddamn much...

>>529760298
>they are.
Substantiate your claim.

>>529760584
go onto e621.
expie's are intentionally attractive to furries, MLP accidentally.
it aint that hard bro.

>>529760656
>it's made to be attractive to furries because there's porn of it
>this other thing is not made to be attractive to furries even though there's porn of it
Weak.

ffs
here
https://strawpoll.com/7MZ0k6O08go

>>529760832
stop playing stupid.

>>529760976
Stop being stupid.

>>529760849
wouldnt say guro, its a torture/misery fetish game.

>>529760656
There ain't anything on e6 bruh

>>529760325
Give her some money. Bitches love money.

>>529748901
Then I have no idea what you're talking about. I looked at the Steam store pages but your descriptions are weird and don't really match what I saw.

>>529739141
>deflecting
>reddit spacing
You're not worth answering seriously to.

>>529754698
Age of Decadence.
Fallout 2.

Dead Cells fucks hard.

I was randomly going through my pirated games folder, and I found this super japanese JRPG about anime girls with ultra powerful hats that try to change their reality by stealing each other's hats. It was fully translated by who I can only assume were 4channers, and I don't even remember downloading it, but I apparently grabbed it in 2022.
I've never visited the tiny url in the image, but the mega link has everything. I have fallen out of favor of most turn based games, but this one has piqued my interest for sure. Got about 2 hours in and I am not bored out of my mind.
https://mega.nz/folder/09FRHYSR#VKxBWy9oTNffPNJlnvsEBA

>>529767718
>anime girls with ultra powerful hats that try to change their reality by stealing each other's hats
Oh, they made a game about John Wilkes Booth?

>>529759234
If your mood is high enough, and expie is at death's door, there's a chance for the "Last Stand" state to trigger that heals all your wounds and brings you to above-critical condition. The chance is directly proportional to your mood: below -20 it's 0, and it interpolates up until reaching a cap.
Justify the existence of this mechanic if it's a torture game.

>>529754216
It's a problem with vocal minority, as with most things.
You can try to rationalize it all you want, and maybe people would actually listen, but all it takes is a single atrophied, sexually deprived coombrain to scream "I LOVE STICKING DICKS UP MY ASS!" and it all goes out of the window.
It's so prominent and omnipresent it even became a meme among normalfags few years back.
People who unconditionally scream about how they want to hang furfags are no different. Two sides of the same coin, really.

>>529771530
ok but i've not met a single furry that DOESNT oversexualize everything.

>>529772190
You're talking to one right now. I am not an obsessed imbecile, i just like anthropomorphic characters.
And most likely, you just haven't realized that you've talked to them before. Because sane people have no reason to bring it up unless it's relevant to the conversation.

>>529772371
>he said, posting an animal with a thick ass

>>529772440
>thick ass
Is any kind of anatomical correctness or feminine traits sexualizes any given image?
You sound hella lot like this guy now

>>529772564
it didnt need the fat ass.
and yes, large asses are sexual. it would've been just as easy for the artist to not give the animal a fat ass.
now im not saying its wrong or bad to include that, but thats not exactly the best image to post while trying to prove that you dont sexualize everything.

>>529772440
I'm pretty sure most men in america have a fatter ass than that

>>529772440
Here you go
I hope this is helpful

>>529774370
the animal is laying flat.
it has a fat ass.
just own the fact that you sexualize everything instead of trying to pretend that you dont.

>>529774370

>>529774560
Open your eyes and please stop embarrasing yourself

This game confuses me.
I need to be level 13 or so to unlock the ability to tell pals to stop working at the mine and focus on transporting goods.

>>529774931
doesnt change the fact that the ass is prominent.
its also near the center of the image, the artist wanted it to be one of the first things you notice.

if there's one thing i hate the most about furries, its how they pretend that they dont sexualize everything in the same breath that they give an animal a fat ass.

Bosses are fun, though. They have a LOT of HP, and they don't hit really hard, so you can swap your pokemons at will.

>>529775359
>the ass is prominent
If a atrophied dystrophic african child would lie down into this exact pose, his ass would also be clearly prominent
you can't go against the anatomy
picrel is DEEPLY SEXUALIZED according to you

My foxparks utterly ruins it, though.
And I haven't even started optimizing my pokemons, you can boost their stats by using souls, or teach them new moves.

Holy cow.
I don't knock her out, I KILL her.
Well, I guess I technically burn her alive since I used a foxpark (firefox), but still.

I just hope that anon doesn't rape and mutilate animals, like many furrys that are into gore do.

>>529775596
and tell me, why would an atrophied dystrophic african child lay in a position like that? its not comfortable and it takes nothing more to just lay flat.
its a pose that draws attention to the ass, that you would only make if you want to draw attention to your ass.
the artist wanted attention to be drawn to the ass.

>>529775953
Prove that it's uncomfortable. I literally sleep like that.
Artist has freedom to draw their characters however they wish. It doesn't make this pose any less natural, and it's not a stigmatized "sexualized" pose.
Is ANY painting of a nude person sexual? Do you know that drawing while referencing nude models has been an artistic staple since reneisance?

>>529776369
>I literally sleep like that.
i genuinely do not believe you.
stopped reading there, im done.
there's no way in hell that i'd ever be able to take take "yeah i sleep in an uncomfortable pose every night" seriously.

Someone please murder the scav shitposter already so we can have a thread without constant autism.

>>529776591
I accept your concession.
You have outer yourself, as quite possibly, the biggest retard in this general.

>>529776369
>I literally sleep like that.
I'm going to fuck your ass while you sleep, spiderslut.

>>529776591
:-)

>>529776861
uoooooooooh
erotic

>>529776861
and note how none of those poses cause a FAT FUCKING ASS like >>529772371

>>529776970

>>529777071
still not as fat an ass as the furry image.

I may not like the furries but I'm glad at least someone is playing videogames instead of discussing yellow paint

cute

>>529777262
>yellow paint
Are you sure it's not blood?

>>529774370
Thank you for the furry ass lesson anon

BURN BABY BURN

>>529775873
Are there mods where you can turn her into a pet?

>>529750816
>over and over again every thread for almost a month
Ever since you started spreading your filth here. What a coincidence.

DAMMIT

>go to bed
>Scav being discussed

>Wake up
>Conversation about Scav has turned into a convo about sleeping positions

Top-fucking-kek

>>529780357
Not that I know, since for all intents and purposes, she's the weak spot of the boss.

>>529780357
Didn't they recently tease recruitable bosses?

>>529754528
Mood isn't that hard to manage, unless you actively do things that makes Expie feel like shit.

This card is confusing me and I'm wondering if anyone else can make sense of it. The wording of it is throwing me for a loop.
To put it in Spire terminology, "Firepower" is STR and "Temporary Firepower" goes away at the end of the turn. So the card basically functions like Flex, where you get +2 STR and then it goes away at the end of the turn.
But it's not a skill card like Flex, it's an ability. You play it, get 2 Temporary Firepower immediately, and then at the start of every turn, gain 2 Temporary Firepower.
...
........
.......................................
Why not just make it +2 permanent firepower?

>>529784994
Because then it can be countered with a counter card, duh.
And also, dunno for Spire, but in Magic the Gathering, some effects can stack if they're temporary, or be applied twice.

>>529784994
Some effects only trigger when gaining Temporary Firepower, not for gaining Firepower. It can also synergize with effects that can trigger for both Temporary and Permanent Firepower increase, but at a lower cost.

>>529782932
>>go to bed
So what pose did you sleep in? Did you push your ass out?

So Forever Skies is probably going to be a refund (might switch it for some other game form my wishlist) but Delta V is definitely a fun little time
This game on the scale of Starsector would probably be my dream game, but I guess it wouldn't make sense with the hard sci-fi setting.
Do the DLC do anything except change the character portraits btw?

>>529791982
Try Deep Space Exploitation demo if you want some comfy physics-based asteroid mining

I want a game with ship combat + intricate onboard combat, whether it's on sea or in space. Anyone know any? No, FTL's onboard combat is not intricate enough. Horizon's Gate is pretty close but it barely has ship vs ship content.

Ah, Earth Dancer! Your dance has brought me joy and happiness. In gratitude, allow me to bestow upon you this recipe.

>>529795738
Is this the thread for Rune Factory? I didn't see one in vrpg.

>>529794229
Barotrauma is the closest thing I can think of.

>>529795738
This line appears over 250 times throughout the whole game...
>>529797437
Unless someone makes "/fagg/ - Farming and Agriculture Games General" a reality. This thread is the misc game general. The only other place I've seen anyone talk about farming game other than here is stardew general.

I have made The Capsule.

>>529795738
>>529797437
>>529798914
Buy an ad.

>>529799251
Mais l'ami! Pourquoi joues-tu à palworld? Ne sais tu donc pas que c'est un jeu CONTROVERSE? Regarde ce Roipaga, c'est totalement une copie du pokémon numero 21852: Alpagod! Et cette Froilette, c'est totalement une copie de mon oncle Pierrot après avoir bu un verre de trop! Il y a même ma tante Jaqueline dans les pommes à côté de lui! Comment peux tu faire cela? Pense aux artistes l'ami!

>>529801694
1) c'est fun
2) ça fait passer la pilule en attendant une mise à jour pour Dragonwilds
3) j'aime faire pleurer de rage les nintendrones

>>529801694
>>529801832
Stop taunting me my failure to learn French in school
>>529798914
I'd be down for a general like that, plenty of non Stardew farming games, but it'd probs die to all the gatcha slop

>>529801832
Pas Dragonwilds! C'est Jagex! C'est des Britanniques l'ami! Des Britanniques leur mère!

>level 40 smuggler
>just barely survived a level 23 pokémon
Yeah no I'm out.

>>529802110
I'm just saying it's a fun game. It's not deep like Vintage Story, but it helps me wait until Dragonwilds get updated.

>>529802175
Ouaaais mais, genre, t'as le bon Britannique, et t'as le Britannique, quoi. Ils sont pas tous mauvais, j'en connais même un qui est okay.
Bon par contre il est homo.
Le bon Britannique, il... il est Anglais, mais il est pas comme l'autre, quoi.

>>529801832
>>529802419
I wouldn't trust jagex as far as I could throw them to be quite honest. They're sneaky and got plenty of controversies.

>>529803070
Maybe. But I still like Dragonwilds, so I'm carefully hyped. It's like Valheim, but slightly less frustrating.

Anyone tried this one? https://store.steampowered.com/app/648800/Raft/
How hard is to survive?
How much content does the game have?

>>529802419
Should I play Palworld now or wait for it to have more content?

>>529805284
Try asking in /pal/ on /vm/ you'd get more opinions there, though the thread is a bit slow like us

>>529806071
Alright, done.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1967630/Survival_Fountain_of_Youth/
Another open world survival craft slop with positive reviews. Anyone tried this one too?

>>529791982
>Do the DLC do anything except change the character portraits btw?
No. They're basically jokes.

>>529805284
Depends how desperate you are to play something.

>>529808624
Not much really.

What are your recommendations for this Steam summer sale?

Trying out this game.

>>529777609
Glad you liked my sign suggestions, frenchie.

I have no idea what I am playing.

>>529816554
oh it's this, i remember seeing trailers for it
is it out?

>>529803576
>Anyone tried this one?
Yes, it's one of the better survival games.
>How hard is to survive?
Not that hard, the beginning of the game is probably the hardest. After you get food and water production sorted, you unlikely die because of your needs.
>How much content does the game have?
It does actually feel finished after it got out of EA. There's plenty of progression in the game doesn't feel like filler. There's six story locations. The first one is pretty unimpressive, but the latter ones are pretty big and takes several hours to explore. Each gives you new stuff to research and build. The random islands can be a bit repetitive, but some of the story locations have their own biomes with their own random islands.
Combat is boring though. Enemies are damage sponges and it's mostly just standing around waiting for them to attack, then poking them with a stick.

>>529818245
i only played it during early access when the first story location was out, i think an abandoned radio tower? but dealing with the shark at islands really felt like it was supposed to be a duo+ game

>>529817726
>is it out?
There's even a sequel.

>>529772440
My guy I have a fatter ass than that.

>>529803576
I've considered it, but as I mentioned above, I'm not a big fan of these types of games if the world is procedurally generated.
Maybe I'll reconsider, not sure

>>529818870
>i think an abandoned radio tower?
Yeah, that's the first one.
>but dealing with the shark at islands really felt like it was supposed to be a duo+ game
The shark tends to stick close to the raft, so if you park it one side of an island, you can dive safely at the other side. Doesn't always work for small islands. You can also make shark bait, but I haven't used them much. Killing it is also pretty easy, just tedious.

People are still making mods for starbound why the hell

>>529822029
According to Steam comments. It seems that there are six fixed manually made islands for the "story" and random islands for resources.
>>529822642
>People are still making mods for starbound why the hell
Because it is /fun/.
I should give it another go to a FU run.

>>529794229
It doesn't have ship combat afaik, but give Steamworld Heist a try.

>>529754698
>What game is this?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/531930/Dungeon_Rats/

>>529798914
/fag/ is already occupied by factorio
>>529822642
>why the hell
Furries.

>>529824645
That's /egg/. Nice try.

>>529823880
>Starbound
Never clicked with me. No idea which version I've played, but I just didn't enjoy it as much as Terraria

>>529825745
They are two totally different genres. Terraria is a boss fight gear-up-athon, Starbound is furry No Man's Sky.

>>529822642
It had a lot of potential a lot of potential and feel like that it's almost good if you just tweaked it a little bit.
I don't know if there are any mods that can actually fix it.

>>529823880
>FU
Tried that, but it felt like as much an incoherent mess as the base game.

>>529826882
>>529824645
>f*rry
I have over 700 hours of Starbound and I haven't used any of those mods. I even make all my colonist be human.

>>529824521
Is that a throwing disk?

>>529826882
Yeah, I guess I went in with the wrong expectations. I was a silly teenager at the time.
>>529827146
To me 80% of the choice was based on how cool whose shipped looked. The human one is one of the best though

>>529827146
The Starbound section of LL would kill you like the ark of the covenant.

>>529826936
FU adds a huge amount of stuff, amazingly without addressing ANY of the myriad issues with progression, world generation or basic gameplay.

Fuck me. Now I want to make another Starbound heavily modded run.
I already have many games to play. Fuck you guys.

>>529829805
Make sure to install OpenStarbound. It's literally free FPS.

>>529829805
you're welcome

>>529831987
Does it fix multiplayer's security issues?

i think i'm gonna marry Anubia, see if i can get her pregnant and then drop the game

>>529834671
I dunno, never played multiplayer and never paid attention to anything for it.

>>529840627
>never played multiplayer
Starbound is *always* multiplayer. There is no singleplayer.

>>529841579
Well if anyone managed to somehow join my game, I hope they enjoyed the tentacles.

>>529828754
Didnt knew Live Leak had a starbound section, game must be brutal

>>529843181
Those milling machine and naked copper cables full of nerve gas man.

>>529826936
That's because FU is quite literally a bunch of stolen work and was made by a lolcow who harassed modders out of modding the game.

>>529824521
Should I play Age of Decadence before this?

Decided to give Sengoku Dynasty another chance. And good lord, where the fuck do the lag spikes come? First I had a unrelated server running on local, but now I don't know why I have lag every two to three minutes.

Wow Tully, fucking racist.

Checking out the new wocean update.
big lore update.

>>529850124
Why are you playing a transvestite?

>>529850410
just an unfortunate artstyle, and then zoomed in too much for the portrait.

>>529850828
>unfortunate artstyle
The monobrow, the stubble shadow, the color choices, the character name, and provocative imagery...
If "media literacy" is a thing, that game is the author struggling to come to terms with being a man.

>>529852119
I think you're seeing things

>>529852201
Show me anything to the contrary. You've given nothing else so far.

>>529852119
>character with purple hair is named violet
cmon man

>>529850828
>just an unfortunate artstyle
>danger hair
>full colour lipstick
>"violet" as name
>eyebrows that almost touch
>sharp jaw
At least accept that Anon has grounds for some doubts.

>>529852723
>eyebrows
she's just frowning, that's usually what eyebrows do, ya?
But ya, that's just how the artist the dev found to do the portraits draws.
If I didn't know that, then I would give it to you.

>>529850124
What even is this game? i googled wocean but no dice

>>529853535
my bad. its wooden ocean.

>>529853463
their faces are goofy as fuck. they make fun of them in game.

>>529853463
>Game Discount Live Now Ends Sat, January 20, 2029
>Fuck Trump Discount Extravaganza!
>25% Discount to Canada.
>25% Discount to Mexico.
>10% Discount to China.
>Retaliate.

Yeah... about that...

>>529854223
ya, lmao

Peripeteia is fun, but I wish it were a bit easier to see when levels are so large.

>>529854989
Valez is the good guy, right?

>>529856501
yeah (no)

I dont think the dev cares much for religion
it gets kinda whacky in the post final boss story content.

>>529847480
Wait. I never had that many issues.

>>529852119
>"so you see that artist actually struggle with being a man, because his character has purple hair, and purple symbolize sexual ambiguity"
>meanwhile, the dev: "i liek the colour lmao"

>>529858075
its funny that her hair has a lore reason, but not the name. violet is just the default name and if you change it they lampshade how dumb it would be to be named violet with purple hair.

>>529858075
You're saying the game has a lot of words, yet the game's description is simply "become romantic" after 4 years on Steam.

>>529859058
No, cretin. I'm calling you a moron for overthinking a fucking colour, dumbass.

>>529859058
he changes it randomly

Dawww I love this little goober.
Emphasis on 'goo'.

>>529860304
Nobody cares about your FTL playthrough.

>>529860472
Are you ok?

Hey anons, in Into the Breach, how do I pick island order in general? What should it be, generally?
And more specifically, what should the order be for Steel Judoka?
And when doing 2-3 island runs, which islands is it better to exclude?
Also, rate the squad
no, I'm not a marvel soiboy but magneto fits

>>529862179
anyway, I'm going detritus or archive first - lots of water to throw the fuckers into
then RST - I don't remember what RST's thing is, but I think it doesn't have water.
if that's the case, maybe I'll pick pinnacle instead of it for this 3-run.

>>529852723
The artist is just exceptionally bad because the entire game is made by one person who clearly has mental problems and don't agree with the concept of art as a science.

>>529863601
Would it surprise you to know he's californian?

>>529822370
>Killing it is also pretty easy, just tedious.
yeah, that's the thing
i can't do shit underwater until i kill it, bait distracts it for nowhere near as long as it feels like it should given the materials needed, and it respawns annoyingly fast
possible they fixed that some time in the last, like, five years

>>529863601
>one person who clearly has mental problems
that's practically a requirement to be a great artist

>>529863910
Isn't he from Florida?

>>529864912
That's just swamp California

>>529870957
~You spin me right around baby right round~

>>529862179
It's ultimately up to you, but I usually do 3 > 4 > 2 > 1, because for me and the way I play the hard part of the run is the early part before I can pick up a good secondary weapon from the shop to carry me, so I need stage hazards like freezing to carry me a bit early on.

>>529827203
If you mean the 9th slot, looks like it. They're called chakrams. I remember them from Fallout Tactics, but that's about it. Haven't played Dungeon Rats yet.
>>529846165
Age of Decadence came out first, I assume it's reasonable to start with it.

>>529843116
I think he means its client-server architecture. Even when you're playing singleplayer you're just hosting a local listen server (that nobody can join)
But technically, nearly every multiplayer-capable game works like this.

>>529852119
>be tranny obsessed schizo
>call it media literacy
LOL
Sometimes you mental health patients say the darnest things.

anons wtf blitzkrieg in into the breach is absolutely broken

>>529883251
Broken good or broken bad?

>>529883293
broken in the best way possible
I'm normally sitting there, counting damage - subset game really designed the mechs in other squads to deal shit damage
and then there's lightning mech dealing chain 3 damage, with the first upgrade costing 1 reactor core
then there's the boulder guy that just deals 3 damage
OP as hell, love it, really tired of sitting there fucking thinking about every point of damage I deal

>>529883251
>>529883293
>>529884267
oh god
HOLY FUCK
it's HORRIBLE ON PINNACLE WITH THE RETARDED ROBOT RESCUE MISSIONS
I LEGIT HATE PINNACLE AND THAT SHIT WITH THE ROBOTS EVEN WITHOUT THIS RETARDED BULLSHIT
WHAT THE FUCK THEY LEGIT NEED TO DELETE THAT SHIT FROM THE GAME

>>529889604
you know what, fuck it - I've decided to just kill the roboniggers on the spot on pinnacle, fuck the bonus reward
the reward is just a pilot or weapon, anyway, not worth it

>>529889604
>>529889739
what I'm saying is I understand escort missions, but did they NEED to have piercing 3 damage beams and 1 HP and require you to PROTECT THEM?

>>529860304
OOJ MAJOO

>>529860304
all of these read like some cringe fanfiction desu

>>529895673
Oh, you haven't seen the worst of it
You can stop a rockman fanatic from spacing himself after he used bible to clean his ass by accepting him into your crew.

>>529881103
Are these real weapons? I see them often in games, but I dunno, they seem to be more ceremonial/show tools than weapons.

>>529899252
they were used in the indian subcontinent where they originated, as throwing weapons and/or like a brass knuckle

>>529899252
>they seem to be more ceremonial/show tools than weapons
only nowadays

>Captain I need a raise
Bitch, I just hired you. This is your first mission, the fuck do you mean?

>>529904124
Fire her. She's a spinster.

>>529882032
>that nobody can join
yeah about that...
If you're running steam unrestricted, you'll have a big green "Join Game" button on your profile that anyone can press to enter your default-config, no-admin-password server.

I'm getting crash bandicoot trilogy for 4€. Anything else I should get during the sales?

>>529907262
SPYRO

>>529907452
No.

>>529907581
FUTURE COP LAPD
GEX

>>529906669
>If you're running steam
lol
lmao
rofl even

Speaking of, I'm not quite sure I understand what this screen does

>>529907581
Overboard.

>>529908758
Overrides to compensate for damaged components

>>529849272
can't blame him, if I could salt the universe to get rid of FTL slugs i'd do it

>>529907262
Medievil.

Page ten emergency bump

>>529928996
penis

Fuck this bitch
Corrupted Heart but she exhausts 75% of your entire deck and steals all your non-boss relics?
God damn son chill out

>>529935594
She's nasty if you're defensive/attrition type

My village is going to get raided and I need money. Time to gamble if I can take the bandit camp.

Chucking spears do SHIET for damage. At least the enemy AI is retarded.

>beat final boss of Dungeons of Hinterberg
>it changes its name to Wild Hunt and turns into the Demon Tide from Kingdom Hearts 0.2

I clapped

Combat in this game is just okay but the puzzles were really solid, I hope it gets a sequel.

ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT ALL THAT SHIT IS JUST DECORATION?
I don't know what I was expecting given that the enemies are retarded.

>>529944703
Aggro them ONE by one.
Old school.
Also get a bow, try to land one or two arrows first. And mind the bandit leader.

later on you can get peasants to dismantle the bandit camp. Be on the lookdout for crates anyway.

>killing bandit faction leader increased raid chance because fuck you nigger
Fuck me I guess.

>>529946479
>spoiler
I see that in this one there's some special project building to make.
Also dunno if it was a good idea to pick up the burned village, instead of finding a better spot.
Anyway gotta find a trader to sell the loot to.

>>529948043
Honestly I think it's the best option, since liberating the region you start in unlock automatic copper mining. You later can get tin by mining it yourself, but have a lot of copper helps a lot.

>moron stands in front of a pokemon I want to capture
>accidentally hits him
>suddenly everyone on the map wants me dead
GTA cops are nothing compared to this militia.

>>529949998
Are you telling me I need to kill bandit camps to get copper tools? Really?
Also I barely see any animals compared to MD. And not seeing recipes for iron and steel tools is very troubling.

>>529953945
>Are you telling me I need to kill bandit camps to get copper tools? Really?
Not exactly, but yeah.
More accurately:
1) to allow your villagers to get copper, you need to liberate the region, which means building a monument (bridge, watch tower, or whatever else), and kill bandits. Once it's done, you unlock copper gathering.
2) I don't remember the exact condition, but to allow copper crafting, you need to level up, but I think it's also tied to how many regions are freed.

You can still drop copper tools and even repair them without having them unlocked, but yeah. Open the world map and see by yourself.

...

>>529911615
You know it's kinda funny, every race in Multiverse has multiple facets to them. The Mantis have the subservient hive and the drug-addled free fighters, the Engi have the conformist hivemind and the rebellious individualists, the Rockmen have the brutal theocrats and the anti-theist outcasts, Crystals have the xenophobic isolationists and the slightly more welcoming isolationists, Florals are hippie communists while Vampweeds are cannibalistic capitalists, and of course the Federation and Rebellion. Even the writer's-punchingbag Leeches, where most are some degree of asshole, are in the middle of a civil war between the ineffectual monarchy and democratic revolutionaries.
Except Slugs. They're all bastards. Most deal in slavery. Everyone but one tries to backstab you in some way. Even the non-hostile ones are sleezy used car salesmen about it. Even their government is thieves stealing from other thieves in a poorly held-together thief-off. And in the ending where you establish galactic slug dominance, it collapses within a decade because everyone keeps fucking stealing from each other and the economy disintegrates. Slugs are all and exclusively dickheads.

>>529956698
lost your sense of humor?

>>529954517
Well, I think I'm done with SD for now. The lag spikes whenever I load a village area kill my will to keep playing.
Fuck Unreal engine 5.

>>529964587
Harsh, but fair.

>>529963860
Misandry is not a laughing matter.

>>52995669
>"Fuck your bro, we gotta defenestrate him"
>"But he is family!"
>Brother coincidentally say something reprehensible
>"Lol lmao you're right fuck him" without even an iota of hesitation

You can tell whoever wrote that game had poor family relationship, if he even had one to begin with.

>>529961575
I mean slugs favorite species wide past time is to genocide another sentient species from their own homeplanet planet and wear their exterior shell as trophies, to the point a whole part of their society revolve around this endeavor. You couldnt even spin that in a good light even if you wanted to.

Bump-mapped lighting in the UI is neat

>>529966381
Years later when the culture has shifted again, some Youtuber will call out all of that game's cringe if you're lucky.

>>529971879
I always find it weird how modern games go "oh he's a sibling so he's a villain".

>>529971879
>brother
They're in his mind, it's literally a figment of his imagination. Why do you guys insist on making up scenarios to get mad at?

>>529975591
It's never going to shift, if anything anyone who's part of the shift will be wall'd harder.

>>529973814
Too many Brit.

>>529971879
Name 3 modern games that do this.

Thought a fusion powered laser mech and a mini-nuke launcher would at least put a dent in a nest, but no.

Why is level 2 of the baby game so hard?

>>529978493
git gud

Hunting lootbugs.
Do Deep Rock Galactic's lootbugs throw out turrets?

>>529979079
No. And if you kill them, you're a horrible human being.

>>529979226
Good thing dwarves aren't human

>>529971879
I can't think of a single game where this happens. But what's bad about this? Sounds to me like: "I can't bring myself to be against my family member until I witness them being reprehensible" is a good story line?
The only reason I can think you would hate this is non-video game related politics bullshit. Like you're the kind of faggot who gets mad that you can't say nigger without people getting mad at you, so now you find the Idea of "Disliking someone for something they said" bad on principle. And if that's the case I gotta tell you: You're fucking retarded as shit my man. You started hating the very Idea of storytelling, because you want to be some kind of edgelord joker villain IRL, but without the negative consequences and now you can't stand plot elements you can imagine also happening IRL to someone who is shitty.
This is about video games nigger. Relax. If you hate it, don't play it.

>>529979379
True. They're better.

>>529946479
NTA but I'm thinking of getting into Sengoku. What's the best starting background? I'm thinking of going Archery, but I'm open to suggestions. It's kinda hard making a decision like that without knowing which of these is gonna hinder you most.
My logic is: Some form of combat boon is gonna be the best, because in combat you are under more time stress. You probably do more building than combat, but you're not gonna beef it from running out of building stamina.

>>529988561
I went warrior because, well, sengoku = civil war so sooner or later, you have to cap some fool's ass, but it's not that important. It's "just" an XP bonus, and you can buy it for Quest XP anyway.

>>529988874
I *think* the background bonus is extra that's locked if you didn't pick it. I went archery because I'm more of a ranged guy than a melee guy.

>>529989780
Heeeh, not sure it's a great idea, you usually only have time to shoot 2-3 arrows before the enemy is pushing you down to rape you.
And bows progression doesn't follow the melee weapons'.

>>529990241
Fucking RIP m8. That's exactly what I meant by hating how they throw something like that at you, before you know how useful each is.

>>529993037
Oh, you'll be fine, it's not like you're restricted to bows-only.

>>529935594
Yes get fucked bitch.
Even if it was only L1...

>>529993209
No, I know. It's not like it's a "this is gonna brick your character" thing, but I'm just kinda annoyed these things with games that make you do a decision that's gonna stick with you for the whole game, but you have no real way of knowing how the options shape up against each other. There's other games like this that are even worse, where the starting options are like "you use 20% less blorbglarbl!" and you're like: How the fuck am i supposed to know how important blorbglarbl is in the game??

I finally upgraded my potato to a small order of fries, can't wait to play hardcore games at high framerates.
Can anybody recommend me some fun games like Stardew Valley? I heard the new Rune Factory is pretty nice.

Speaking of "giving you game impacting options at the start of the game": Remember Starfield? While culture war faggots where crying about FUCKING PRONOUNS, if you didn't have worms in your brain there were actually much bigger problems in the character creator already: it's a fucking RPG that gives you upbringing and religion choices for your character WITHOUT MENTIONING WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE.
And I'm going CRAZY that nobody fucking talked about this. If you Pick "Freestar Collective Settler" the Trait description is: "You gain access to special Freestar Collective dialogue options, and better rewards from some missions given by the faction. But, crime bounty towards other factions is greatly increased." If you pick "Raised Enlightened it reads: "You grew up as a member of the Enlightened. You gain access to a special chest full of items in the House of the Enlightened in New Atlantis, but lose access to the Sanctum Universum chest. " THIS IS A FUCKING ROLE. PLAYING. GAME!!! Tell me what the fuck Free Star collective is like! Tell me what the god damn motherfucking religion believes!!! This is a new IP, nobody at character creation knows what the fuck Universal or Enlightened is. Or what the settlements represent. It truly shows that these people care more about their culture war than video games when the fact that you could pick between he and she was more of a problem than the fact that your entire upbringing and religion was just "you get a bonus chest".

>>530000314
>Remember Starfield?
no

>>530000460
Kek fair enough. Excuse the rant. I'm just kinda sick of seeing actual reasons why games are bad, and then seeing culture war assholes complain about fake reasons why games are bad.

>>529998428
There's a shit ton of hunting to do and the best method for hunting is ranged. So you can make some good money hunting, besides all the food you get.

>>530000314
>Starfield
I read like 30 sci-fi novels per year about space adventures. I love space opera and sci fi games, but for some reason Starfield looks so "empty" and lacklustre that I simply have no will to try it.

Almost done with Peripeteia. Need more janky Eastern Europe sims.

>>530005914
It is empty and lacklustre. The Devs tried to rationalize it by saying: "Well in real life 99.99999% of planets you could land on would be large and barren and empty too, that doesn't make the universe not wonderful and fascinating!" and it's like bitch, we're not ACTUALLY exploring the real universe this is a fucking video game, nobody wants to walk through empty expanses of nothing for hours on end.
It's also just a shit story. hardcore spoilers: It turns out it's a multiverse situation, you end up hopping to an alternate universe of your starting one, and meet all the characters again and the story repeats itself. In your original universe, your fucking wife dies in your arms, when you see an identical version of her, can you talk to her? Can you confess to her that you were married? That you lost her? That she is not YOUR wife, but that she also in some way is the same person? Haha fuck no. You can give her the "Hi, I come from an alternative universe, best we start from scratch!" dialogue option you can give every other NPC. There's also a guy with a daughter, who's biggest fear of doing the leap to another universe is not knowing if it's gonna separate him from his daughter. You now know it does, that everyone ends up somewhere else and that he is never ever ever gonna see his original daughter again. Can you warn him to not take the leap? LMAO the game didn't even think about this. He will still wonder this, and despite you knowing there is no option to tell him.
It's so fucking bad as an RPG man. So fucking bad.

Sengoku Dynasty looks like shovelware, but given the amount people talk about it here, I'm guessing there's something about the gameplay that makes up for the visuals.

>>530006772
I tried it and I can tell you it also plays like shovelware. I had more fun with the minecolonies mod, honestly.

>>530006764
>"Well in real life 99.99999% of planets you could land on would be large and barren and empty too, that doesn't make the universe not wonderful and fascinating!"
Fucking Todd. This is textbook fallacy of imitation. You don't make space games with near-zero content for the same reason that, if you're writing a conversation, you don't fill the dialogue with filler. Yes, it's truer to life, but fiction and gaming should shoot for something more. While real life doesn't have a point, you can't create empty, meaningless art or entertainment.

>>530006772
It's a okay to good village sim. The combat is superior to Medieval Dynasty, there's less need for hunting and villagers can be more self-sufficient, as in you don't need to babyed them too much.

>>530007251
>You don't make space games with near-zero content for the same reason that, if you're writing a conversation, you don't fill the dialogue with filler.
>>530006764
>"Well in real life 99.99999% of planets you could land on would be large and barren and empty too, that doesn't make the universe not wonderful and fascinating!"
It seems to have worked for Elite Dangerous.
I bought the game and the on-foot DLC, and even joined a very active squadron. But at the end of the day it's more of a space trucking simulator than anything else.

>>530007360
>Elite Dangerous
But surely there's something that ED does that distinguishes the nothing in its universe from that of Starfield.
>trucking simulator
I think open world multiplayer games go through a form of carcinization that eventually renders them all trucking or logistic sims of some kind. It seems like if a game gives you an inventory, it's only a matter of time before everything begins to revolve around several common issues:
>how can I carry more?
>how can I do things faster?
>how can I be more efficient?

>>530007251
I mean you could, if you're talented. Quentin Tarantino dialogue is a lot of just "filler". But it's fucking good. Blade Runner is long stretches of fucking nothing. But it's good.
Todd Howard doesn't have that talent, or vision to make something that is intentionally empty that you stroll through and then fell like: "Fuck, this is art. This is nothing and it's amazing". It's quite clearly a post-hoc rationalization after players complained that every planet objective involves going through 12 loading screens to get to a planet, landing in bumfuck nowhere, doing the "Sprint, walk to recover stamina, sprint" dance for 5 minutes to get to where you actually want to go (you can't land closer it's automatic, fuck you) and then repeat.
Also i want to note how stupid it was to make a game that's heavily NG+ based (as in taking a NG+ is part of the literal story), but has quite tedious resource grinding base building that doesn't take over into NG+?? What's the fucking deal with that?
>>530007360
>It seems to have worked for Elite Dangerous.
I dunno, ED had to implement a cash shop. And ED skirts by on trying to be a sim. You can justify a lot of "nothing ever happens" by it being a sim. Just how in flight sim you can literally set your auto-pilot and just stare out the in-game window for an hour and a half if you so desire. Starfield is an RPG, where even the RPG elements are shit.
But honestly ED is on thin ice with me too. I was thinking for years that they have like maybe 6 hours of content but artificially gate-keep it behind massive grinds for money and resources.

>>530008109
By "filler" I mean things like stuttering and uh, um, etc. You can do such an accurate job of capturing real-life speech that your dialogue becomes stale and tedious. That's the fallacy of imitation. The example one of my professors liked to use was writing a boring dinner party and doing such a good job that you create something painfully boring.

>>530008073
>But surely there's something that ED does that distinguishes the nothing in its universe from that of Starfield.
I haven't played Starfield, nor I really want to give it a go, so dunno.

>>530008109
>But honestly ED is on thin ice with me too. I was thinking for years that they have like maybe 6 hours of content but artificially gate-keep it behind massive grinds for money and resources.
I grinded a Cobra MK III by way of trading. Got an artemis suit and dominator suit. Tried to do some PvE with the Cobra, was kinda meh. Did some exo and I almost died of boredom. Did some onfoot combat, was fun but the pay was hugely inferior to exo and trading. Joined an active squadron, and almost all the multiplayer projects are colonization or BGS, which are almost exclusively space trucking or popping NPC ships.
The game has potential but it feels too single player-ish and empty.

>>530008707
Is this the game where you can steal other players' ships?

>>530008924
Nope. You can't steal in this game.

>>530008109
>6 hours of content
The content is dry water on plain bread

>>530008442
And I still say, you can do both of those in a way that it becomes art, and good art at that. The stuttering, the "uhhm, eeeh," pauses while talking, and even re-creating a painfully boring dinner party if you're good at it.
But Todd is just not, and never will be.

>>530008707
I grinded myself all the way to Anaconda back in the day, and then later bought a Federal Corvette in addition to that. Both fully kitted out. That's more or less 100 times the Cobra MK III.
ED has a long history of people finding *something* that makes getting money marginably easier, and frontier instantly "fixing" it. At the start it was rare trade routes, that got nerfed, then it was specific bounty hunting locations that would spawn high value targets, then that got nerfed too. Every time players found something? Nerfed.
Players even created EMDN "Elite Market Dump network" where they could upload market data from stations they visited to a third party website so that players could make informed decisions on where to buy and where to sell based on player provided market information. Frontier asked them to shut it down, saying they wanted to do something like that, and we were left dry until ages later some form of API came out and then still it took a while until it had market data I think (vaguely remembering here) As far as I know, they never released a tool like EMDN itself, so having that taken down for no reason kinda sucks.
>>530009463
Which is precisely while they stretch it to 600 hours, by making the grind so slow. So you're excited for your next ship upgrade, more than you are annoyed at realizing that installing this ship upgrade is 40% of the games "content".

Oh also fun fact: Back when I bought my Anaconda, money making and repairs where so fucking bad, that if during bounty hunting pirates actually managed to get through my 7 proxies (aka fuckton of shields) the repair costs for my hull INSTANTLY fucking destroyed any profits to be made from combat.

>>530010015
Oh! And if you complained about the fact that grinded out 150million credits for a ship that eats your money if your shields go down, you got a bunch of forum dads going: "Nobody is forcing you to use the largest combat ship to do combat! You can do everything in the game just fine with the 400k Cobra MKIII!" Which is fucking infuriating.

>>530010015
>Players even created EMDN "Elite Market Dump network" where they could upload market data from stations they visited to a third party website so that players could make informed decisions on where to buy and where to sell based on player provided market information. Frontier asked them to shut it down, saying they wanted to do something like that, and we were left dry until ages later some form of API came out and then still it took a while until it had market data I think (vaguely remembering here) As far as I know, they never released a tool like EMDN itself, so having that taken down for no reason kinda sucks.
I got told to use the trading route thingy from Inara. I don't really know how it works, if it uses player-made info or an official API.

>Oh also fun fact: Back when I bought my Anaconda, money making and repairs where so fucking bad, that if during bounty hunting pirates actually managed to get through my 7 proxies (aka fuckton of shields) the repair costs for my hull INSTANTLY fucking destroyed any profits to be made from combat.
That's the reason why I stopped playing WarThunder. The repair costs plus ammo cost far outweighed the profit.

>>530010180
>Oh! And if you complained about the fact that grinded out 150million credits for a ship that eats your money if your shields go down, you got a bunch of forum dads going: "Nobody is forcing you to use the largest combat ship to do combat! You can do everything in the game just fine with the 400k Cobra MKIII!" Which is fucking infuriating.
I don't really know where the game is going. It seems that most of the active players enjoy space trucking, being trading or trucking for colonies.
And don't get me wrong, I love repetitive tasks and grinding. But this kind of stuff is too braindead even for me.

>>530009108
you can steal cargo

>>530010751
...but only from consenting players.

>>530010670
>inara
Yes I do believe by now proper tools are in place, no Idea how much is user and how much is API based. It's just annoying that they shut down a player based project that they absolutely did not have to shut down, you know?
>war thunder
Oh don't get me started on the fucking f2p war games. Jesus Christ.
>It seems that most of the active players enjoy space trucking, being trading or trucking for colonies.
>And don't get me wrong, I love repetitive tasks and grinding. But this kind of stuff is too braindead even for me.
For me a huge part was that I have a throttle and stick setup. Playing Elite, pushing the thrust lever forwards, and hearing your engine spool up according to how far you pushed? Feels great. Deploying / retracting your landing gear by flicking a physical switch? Pure sex. I imagine with a VR headset I'd be rock hard playing the entire time.
But if someone asked me: "Hey I'm looking for a space game to play with Mouse & Keyboard, would you recommend ED?" I'd say fuck no.

>>530011591
targeting and destroying the cargo hatch will cause cargo to spill out of the damaged ship

>Hektar in FTL Multiverse started as a furnite store

That make the whole faction way more hilarious in retrospect, I mean it's basically a slug ikea that grew into a multiverse-reaching megacorp. Maybe that is why hektar weapons are modular, they sold modular furniture beforehand.

>>530006663
I think I like this dev

How's summer looking, lads?

>>530012379
From mediocre Space Ikea, to weapons of inter-reality warfare built on the backs of enslaved indigenous tribals. Quite the market shift.

>>530012819
I bought 3 games during the sale, yet I keep going back to the same trash dinosaur game that's not worth mentioning just to keep chasing highs in

Also, all the games on my wishlist don't even have a release date, but I'm glad your's do, Anon

This any good?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2325390/AirBoost_Airship_Knight/

>>530012819
Looking at getting Len's Island and Chinese Frontiers, now that Sengoku Dynasty has too many lagspikes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0cl9LvTPmk

>>530015725
Is this from Bloodborne?

>>530015725
Is this Lord of the Fallen

>>530012591
Poland can be a pretty good place sometimes.

>>530015725
Is this Nioh 3?

>>530015725
Is this the Purge

>>529973814
how autistic is this game?
t. gets headaches with eu4

>>530012819
What I got so far:
>Chants of Sennaar
Had no time to try, but I'm sure to enjoy it
>Zeno Clash
Some old beat em up. Cost me 99cents even if I drop it after a day it will be a fun time
>Forever Skies
Refund candidate, might trade in for something else. I'm just desperate for another survivalcraft game that clicks like Subnautica did. This one came really close but no Cigar
>Delta V: Rings of Saturn
6h in I'm enjoying myself. I understand that it's a sandbox and probably an on/off type game

What I might get (especially post Forever Skies refund):
>Raft
Surely THIS will be the survival game that finally clicks
>Signal Simulator
Dunno, maybe not
>Tin Can
Autism Simulator, trying to survive in a space capsule. Looks interesting, but I'm scared of reading and not in the right mood for it right now
>Blood West
After someone itt recommended it
>ASKA
kinda put off by some of the main character animations looking goofy in the little footage I've seen
>Star Trucker
Would be an instant buy, if it had more of a hard sci-fi aesthetic
>Forever Winter
Allegedly doesn't have enough content yet

anyone know an occulty evil gods type of game?

>>530030424
>delta V
That game is free actually. In solidarity with Ukraine, the dev put literally the entire full game into the demo, so you can play for free. Has been like this for years. (and as far as I know still is, at least I hadn't heard that it was removed)

>>529956698
Did this game finally came out? What was its name again?

>>530034042
>In solidarity with Ukraine
Was a bit confused how making the game free in solidarity makes sense (as opposed to for instance donating all the money to charity) But actually that's an interesting take
>In a time of a global crisis, there are causes that need your contributions more than we do. Today I’m lifting all the restrictions of the demo version, making it essentially a full game. Instead of buying ΔV, spend your money on something important and help someone in need. You can get the full version of ΔV when we have peace again.
Well good to know, but the 5€ that I spent on that game won't break the bank or impact the amount I donate to Ukraine on a regular basis.
>>530033525
Can you describe a bit more, what you mean?
Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous lets you play as an assortment of evil godlike entities

>>530035087
Yeah I figured it was too late for you anyway as you mentioned being 6h in. Just thought I'd mention it in case other anons want to check it out. It's not a terrible game. But very "ludonarrative" from what I have played. You gotta be okay with some repetitiveness and making your own story from what happens to you. In any case, putting the entire game in the demo for now I think 3 years is hella based, and I think he does deserve your 5er.

>>530035583
In general I respect devs who accept that if someone is stubborn or greedy enough they will pirate their shit anyways, so might aswell be a good sport about it.
I think the Darkwood devs made an "official" torrent download link for their game, because they said, they prefer people who can't/don't want to afford their game at full price should rather pirate it than getting it off keysites. Since in both cases the devs get fucked over but at least if you pirate it you don't give money to scummy resellers and there's a chance you igh give the devs money at a later stage if you liked the game enough and you should, it's a great game
Also I think and there is some controversy about it the factorio devs are pretty chill about pirating, though in return they have made it clear that their game will never be on sale and you do need an official copy for mods and multiplayer to work.

>>530037424
Factiorio dev is a bit of a weird chud anyway. The "Will never be on sale ever" never really sat right with me if I'm honest. But I always heard his rational was: "Putting a game on sale is unfair towards people who bought it earlier" which I never agreed with. I think it's pretty established for anything besides buying a house that the rule is: "If you get it brand new it's a bit more expensive, but if you get something from 5 years ago, you're gonna save a buck". Knowing this is the case makes sales not unfair at all.

>>530038740
factorio's shit tho

>>529846165
It's just AoD's combat engine on a combat gauntlet. You don't need to play AoD.

/indie/, i thought about making an indie wordlist for skribbl
would anybody be interested in playing it here?

>>530043034

Do you race against all of them?

>>530043870
>porn
lol

i might have a hoarding problem
insane how much shit you can get if you care enough to properly craft and trade

>>530043870
kek,
>game
>bad
was the first two I've read

>>530048779
The problem of course is encumbrance, and you're more likely to get yourself hurt from even a slightly high fall due to it.

>>530038740
>Putting a game on sale is unfair towards people who bought it earlier
yeah okay that is pretty damn weird. I've honestly never questioned it or head this explanation but I'm with you. I see where he's coming from, I don't think I agree either.
>>530038942
>(you)

>>530050006
i have the scaffolding pack and i play very carefully
i usually run level 2 encumberance in third area just with loot

>>530030424
ASKA is good. Forever Skies is kinda meh. Tried Raft, but the little I played, it seems to have very little content.
Maybe give a try to Icarus.

>>530050583
>Icarus
I wouldn't be surprised if the two of us hat this exact conversation before itt, but one thing that I'm on the fence about regarding Icarus is the premise.
I think the blend between high and low tech is really interesting, but it's kinda lame that the reason that you are an astronaut living in a wood cabin using a stone axe, is because you work for a company that's too greedy to provide you with proper equipment (as far as I understood it), I would have much preferred if you instead crashlanded on the planet and would have to survive that way.
Though I've just read the little blurb on the Steam page and maybe I'm wrong about my attitude towards the game.
Man, I really just want to patch up that Subnautica shaped hole in my heart and I have littel hope of Subnautica 2 doing a good job at that.
Astromentica looks cool, but it's still early access and also IF you're going to make Subnautica in space I would prefer newtonian physics and 6DOF movement. Planetcrafter looks kinda jank. And that other spacegame whose name I can't recall is supposed to be too much of a walking sim in its second half.
Maybe I should watch some Aska or Icarus gameplay and decide if those tickle my fanct

>>530050574
I try to at least have a bicycle helmet by the time I get past the 2nd layer, since the biggest threat are stalactites.

>>530051514
>I wouldn't be surprised if the two of us hat this exact conversation before itt
Most probably.
>but it's kinda lame that the reason that you are an astronaut living in a wood cabin using a stone axe, is because you work for a company that's too greedy to provide you with proper equipment (as far as I understood it)
That's basically the gist of it, yes.

>>530043870
>scav ass fetish

>>530051582
look up
that's it
just being constantly aware of the fact that a giant stone can land on your head at any moment is more than enough to avoid them, since they have a sound cue and only detach after a delay
headlamp is much more ergonomic, quite possibly the best light utility that lasts 40 minutes at bare minumum, can be crafted quite easily (lighbulb + alloy + circuits = flashlight to flashlight + reinforced rope = headlamp) and saves up on precious weight limit

>>530051514
>Aska or Icarus
Regarding those two. Aska is like Medieval Dynasty but with viking magic and better village mechanics. Icarus is more focused on temp or semi temp bases to grind gear to make missions easier to grind more gear to do more missions.

>>530051884
scavs are literally the least fuckable of all creatures

>>530013027
They basically became the East India Trade Company but in space™

>>530053838
Experiments are suppose to be hideous, but they aren't doing a good job at portraying that.

>>530055472
Those thighs, the shy demeanor, they're built for rough hand-holding and petting

>>530055472

>>530053838
Do not underestimate the capability of horny peoples to sexualize even the most absurd of things. I mean if peoples can jack it to dinosaurs shagging cars, anything is possible, for the better and worse.

>>530055472
I thought they were called expy

>>530012131
There won't be a cargo hatch to target since the truckers hop over to limited "multiplayer" when ferrying cargo of value.

>>530030424
>Tin Can
i really didn't like this game
it felt like the controls were designed first for vr and mkb was added as an afterthought. or just intentionally shit, one of the two
in general it was more like a tech demo than a full game

>>530058342
Also just because something's cute doesn't mean it needs to be over fetishized, I'm confident they're supposed to be "ugly" just because the dev wants to keep degenerate sex fiends away and in actuality they're more akin to >>530055472

>>530060449
this guy might be more up to speed

>>530059216
Expie

>>530061584
People would still find a way to sexualize this unfortunately

>>530062172
They're already shipping it.

>>530038740
Kovarex's reasoning is that if he hadn't put factorio at the price it is now, he would have put it at $70 and put it on sale at 50%.

>>530027556
>how autistic is this game?
I haven't dared touch the mega autist / ww2-enthusiast strategy games, I imagine they are more complex than this.
All of the difficulty is front-loaded here though, due to poor tutorialization.
Combat is realtime with pause: >>529976479

>>530027556
>how autistic is this game?
Extremely. The dev purposely hides information, doesn't explain shit and so on, as per his "vision". It is also roguelite, so fuck you for trying to explore new things.

>>530034521
Tacticool Beach Millenials
>>530065532
Haven't touched any other game since it clicked a few days ago.

>>530064198
What a retarded take

>>530062247

>>530067672
>furries not infantalizing - challenge level: impossible

>>530027556
I tried it for like 30 minutes, it's top shelf distilled autism. EU4 is truly baby tier compared to it, at least there's a tutorial and the UI doesn't actively try to fight you.

>>530067993
That's just how Dune writes their notes.

>>530068403
this seems like rainworld with guns
is it?

>>530068535
In Rainworld you die in literally one hit. In Scav Prototype, your Expie can take quite a bit of punishment.

>>530068778
I just mean like the vibe.
now this looks like a starbound mod, lol

>>530068908
Well it's a brutal survival game with a well detailed health system. The vibe is your one of the very very many Experiments sent to retrieve some very important cargo.

Anything good with the chunky art style of games from the 2010s? Like Defense Grid, Anomaly Warzone, Jets n Guns, that sort of thing?

>>530070260
You listed completely different kind of games so I'm a bit lost.

>The expie schizo is spamming /indie/ too
Man, just fucking stick to shitting /trash/ threads.

I like Doom.

>>530071292
>Ammo Health Arms Armor
Hm, odd one out. Replace Health with Aura? Any more suitable words that start with A?

>>530071698
Fuck off with your anime bullshit, faggot.

>>530071849
"Anime: 98%"
Great pattern matching! Fucking retard.

>>530071849
You angered the tourist.

Recommend me some surreal, weird and most importantly interesting games similar to the following- Ena Dream BBQ, Stanley Parable, Hylics, Superliminal etc
The only requirements: no 2d platformers (unless its amazing) and NO LONGER THAN 10,15 HOURS (dont want to slog through 70 h of garbage)

>>530075451
Clean Asia!

>>530043870
I miss the threadly /&tg/ wordclouds

>>530064305
>>530065532
>>530068067
kek neat, i think i can dig it someday

I said I wouldn't but I'm playing Sengoku Dynasty again, even if the lag kills me.
Just sowed three fields of leeks and gabo. It seems each seed bag can sow 100 tiles of farm field. Even if the max field size if 8x8.

How long did it take for your first StS win?

Free bear!
Also I don't know if it was the right move to buy and plant gabo and leeks, instead of investing that money in other things.

>>530078608
Ascension 0? Pretty easy. If you're having trouble, stick with ironclad. Relatively simple mechanics, but very effective.

Just realized I've also now gold stickered every deck on mobile Balatro too.
I didn't even realize.

I just built the Hunter's Hut, finished building all the structure and the furniture, but the Hunter's Workshop doesn't show in jobs.
Dafuq is happening.

>>530051861
>That's basically the gist of it, yes
I'm really autistic about this sort of thing desu. But reading the steam page about how you're a prospector kind of made me think that I probably still can immerse myself in the setting.
Like if you're basically some freelancer just going down to the planet to make a fortune in some sci-fi version of the gold rush somehow that makes a lot more sense in my head
>>530053451
I see, I'm not sure I'm a fan of temporary stuff in basebuilding. I think I might genuinely be on the sepctrum because I just can't fathom the idea of tearing down something I've build to rebuild a better version. I'm in awe how people tear down their starter bases in factorio.
Aska looks fun I'm just not sure if the visual style clicks for me. I need to look at some gameplay I suppose
>>530060191
Ah, that's a shame man. The concept is kinda appealing to me

>>530075451
copper odyssey 1 and 2

Why doesn't this workplace work REEEEEEEE.

>>530085230
>I just can't fathom the idea of tearing down something
That's the neat part, you don't have to. In lore reasons you leave the planet, and the megastorms completely destroys everything, so each time you are dropped for a mission, you have to rebuild. In my 200~~ hours of playtime I have almost perfected the deployment of a 3x3 wooden shack for doing most missions.
But players didn't like that grind of roguelite mode, so the devs made a "permanent" mode, and have moved almost all the roguelite "missions" to the permanent mode. The mode is called "open world" vs the normal "missions". It does decrease the difficulty/grind of missions, but people seems to prefer it. They also added ways to regenerate the local resources like minerals and plants/trees so you can stay indefinitely in the same area.
Also remember that all but 2 DLCs are cosmetic stuff/furniture decorations. Only the "New Frontiers" and "Styx" are real content, they both add maps, but New Frontiers adds workshop items for meta progression and a harder, more alien map.

>>530086780
>Why doesn't this workplace work
Rotate 180

>>530087262
I didn't saw some furniture on the tower it has.

>>530071198
so peculiar, mind i asking why you wouldn't stick to trash yourself?
there's more than a single person interested in scav, retard

The gobo and leet fields took 2 days to grow, and I have seasons set to 30 days. But fuck 4 days seasons lol.
Gonna see if I can sell this to the traders and get some more seeds.

>>530091190
>there's more than a single person interested in scav
The two resident furries; spidefag and you.

>>530084564
Because the thing works according to workstation. The Hunter Lodge is "just" a repository for the Hunter workstation.
Go to the Hunter Workplace and hold T to assign something and it should work.

>>530092257
I'm not a furry, so I don't care about Scav.
I'd like to help the other guy with Sengoku Dynasty though.

Gonna try to sell like 200 units of cooked gabo. And I still have pending the leek field, and I think I will have to sell it as is, as I don't have any recipes to cook for them.

>>530093636
The problem was that there was furniture in the tower that the hunter's hut has, and like a retard, I didn't see it.

>>530094293
Keep some stuff in your inventory. Let it rot.
Later on you can make fertilizer out of it.

I'm getting the urge to try chewing into Amazing Cultivation Simulator again. Talk me out of it.

>>530094293
Oh, and save up some leather, you'll need it to craft your own seed bags later.

>>530092257
>scav is one of the most listed words on >>530043870
>only two people
Please stop having a meltie every time it's mentioned

>>530097907
might've been the giant argument around it that caused that.

>>530043870
>expie

>>530094560
start quickly so you can remember the reasons why you stopped

>>530094560
It's a grindfest.

>>530094560
The NPCs you'll have to talk to will die before you have a chance to talk to them.

>>530097907
>most listed words
Because you've been spamming that shit since April.

And before that, scav was for rainworld.

>>530075451
>Metal Garden
not too long relatively simple fps where you explore some enormous megastructure, liked the twist at the end, had these BLAME! vibes I liked.
>There Is No Game: Wrong Dimension
similar vibes to stanley parable but instead of narrative tropes its gameplays.
>Psychopomp GOLD
weird dungeon crawler where you play as a girl who created an helmet to see the "real" world (iirc you technically are the helmet during gameplay, not the girl herself) and you go on nonsensical adventures to figure out what the fuck is going on.

All I can list off the top of my head.

>>530098241
Oh my God I remember that from like two or three threads ago, was going on before I left for work and was still going after I left, top fucking kek

>>530102192
What was it, the yellow paint one?

>>530103307
No it was a argument about Scav, iirc I think it was about is it a fetish game or not

Let's not re enact it again though

>>530104239
Oooh, the sleeping posture one.

>>530060037
you can do it to NPCs
obviously people avoid the open multiplayer because most of the people you actually end up interacting with are murderhobo "pirates" that make open not economically viable for anyone flying a something other than a highly engineered combat ship

the enemies in the Lies Of P DLC hit like trucks what the hell

>>530104357
nah the one where the furry was pretending that its not a torture fetish game

>>530110594
stop trying to tack your torture fetish onto random games

Darkest Desire might not be the most expansive submod, but it's certainly...interesting. It's a shame the AI is too stupid to properly use its gimmicks though.

so much porn games on steam

>>530075451
seconding >>530085804

>Expect a Twin Peaks-esque paranormal story
>Instead it's all one big fucking allegory for global warming with the villain being a stand in for corporations
GOD THIS IS SO DISSAPOINTING. What is it with adventure indie devs and lame fucking twists, it would be so much more fucking interesting if they did the obvious fucking thing but instead they had to subvert it into a story about a fucking town vs corporation and make it the most boring predictable shit. Same with The Rootress are Dead, you are ready for a murder mystery where you have to solve a genealogical tree to discover the truth behind a death and it turns out the actual truth is that the family just hid a gay person in their family and didn't want anyone connected to him to get the inheritance.

>>530119942
you should play Firewatch

>>530121208
Fuck you I already did and I hated it just as much.

>>530119942
>hid
Something you can discover really early too.

>>530124482
I quickly disovered the detail but paid it no mind thinking this isn't going to be a major part of the story.
To be honest I forgot also that "Confirmed Bachelor" was an euphemism for a gay person

Dude is NOT taking multiversal conflict well.

Independent gaymers.

>>530116469
>Chain cooldown cap: 1

Lol lmao this is stupidly op. You could strip every layer of their shield before they can even get a volley out. Only downside is lack fo crew damage, but dunno what plagueridden does, guess it affect thst aspect.

>>530127446
That's exactly the same as the regular vulcan, starts at 11 ends at 1. It even has 5 pixels more spread than the regular one.
The OP bit is plagued rooms spawn Husks when crew die in them, which are fairly deadly in combat if fragile, and anyone that dies to a husk becomes another husk.

>>530127242
don't make fun ofnmy community

>>530110594
>keeps going after getting bftod and exposing himself as a complete imbecile incapable of understanding basic anatomy of how leg muscles work

one of my two initial followers got mauled to death by a bear when i wasn't looking, bad start to a new cult
oh well, the bear yaoguai i went with has stupid high movespeed and is insanely good at construction and crafting, grabbed a random stranger to handle mining/farming/cooking
i sure don't remember shit about where to get things early game. this dumb sixteen steps law i happened to roll wants me to provide ginseng pills for a pre-GC breakthrough and i absolutely do not have an alchemist or the ability to buy them

>>530142382
>ACS mentioned
I awaken.

If you want any help or advice I can do that, or if you want early game advice you can watch my tutorial video I made exactly for that subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng-G4OJDGM

>>530146980
oh shit you're still in this thread? hope you've been doing well
acs2 news someday maybe
i'm pretty content bumbling right now but thanks

>>530147142
>oh shit you're still in this thread?
Of course. It's not like ACS is all I play and I just sit here waiting for people to talk about ACS, but I'm not even going to pretend I won't jump on ACS talk like a starving wolf on a raw steak there's a bunch of other games I play, mostly indie, so I'm always here. Depending on what I'm actively playing I might be paying attention to every post or just skim the last day's worth.
>acs2 news someday maybe
Never ever, I've given up thinking about it. It'll happen when it happens, if it happens.
>i'm pretty content bumbling right now but thanks
Sure thing. I want, nay; demand, full screenshot blogposting of everything you're up to on my desk rather than brief summaries and cropped pics.

Anons, I'm thinking of getting some games in the sale but I'm not sure:
>Idle armada
Early acces forever probably never gonna finish, but cheap.
>Outpath
>Kingdom Come: Deliverance
Looks janky as hell
>War Tortoise
Someone mentioned in one of these threads, looks jank as hell, but also kinda fun as a concept?
>Cauldron
>Magicraft
>Dyson Sphere Program
Also in early access since forever
>Against the Storm
Roguelike colony sim seems like a cool concept
>The Slormancer
Silly indie ARPG
>Soul Reaver remastered
Any of you guys play these? Any of these worth getting?

>>530148232
DSP is great, easily the best 3 dimensional factory builder. Consult /egg/ if you're autistic enough.

How do storylines in Delta V work?
I've got a crewmember looking for his lost brother, I'm assuming all the names are randomly generated. I've asked other ships about his brother until it triggered an event where I found some corpses from his ship floating around. Collected the corpses and got a radar contact seemingly related to the story, when I checked it out there were more corpses to collect.
I waited for a bit but nothing happened so I returned back to base (since my cargo hold was full of dead bodies now)
Does that progress the story, or will I have to do it all in one go? Because earlier I've already collected some corpses from allegedly the same ship but didn't follow up on the radar contact and it seemed as if that reset the whole thing back to the beginning.

>>530148342
Thanks anon. I've considered DSP, but the neverending early access always kinda put me off.

>>530148232
Haven't played DSP yet, but with base building games like that I'm a lot less concerned about early access to be honest. If it has enough content as is, go for it.
Also god damn I wish there was an /egg/ game with a magic theme. Like factorio but instead of building rockets you tap into leylines to turn water into wine on an industrial scale or something

>>530150629
Closest you get is Oxygen not Included: Harry Potter version: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1270580/Mind_Over_Magic/

>>530142382
>>530146980
I'm not schizophrenic nor Sinophilic enough for this shit.

>>530150738
Yeah, I've seen that one.
Also Orb of Creation kind of fits the bill, but it's more of an idle type game.
If that turned into a base builder once you started manifesting space into existence it would be the shit

>>530042146
But I want a story

>>530151292
Orb of creation is a fun idle game, but also fully abandoned by the developer.

Sengoku anon still here? Did you pirate the game or buy it? In my version when I launch the game it spends minutes trying to connect to a server before letting me into the menu in offline mode. Any way to skip that, or am I just gonna have to put up with that?

>>530151349
They made it for grugs who want to fight and not RP(or obsessively minmax skills to pass checks).

>>530152274
Does AoD2 hold up or is it dated? What's the gold standard these days? Pathfinder WotR?

>>530152352
There's an AoD2? Do you mean Colony Ship?

>>530152487
Oops I meant AoD1, I don't know where the 2 came from. Is Colony Ship an indirect sequel? I've been looking for scifi RPGs, the Shadowrun series wasn't for me though.

>>530152663
>I don't know where the 2 came from
Well, around 8000 years ago, one caveman looked at his fingers...

>>530101789
Thanks a lot. I think I’ll try Psychopomp, seems like something I’d like

>>530101789
>>530164724
>There Is No Game: Wrong Dimension
I heard that the narrator is cringe and obnoxious.

>>530119942
Stink of sweetbaby inc involvement, almost feel identical to my experience with Hardspace: shipbreaker

What are some games on the same level of writing, drama, setting, lore, atmosphere, characters and execution as FF Tactics?

I was playing A Hat in Time recently, and I had a random thought.

Do you guys think that Gears for Breakfast went out of their way to make sure that the game wasn't too "girly" or "childish"? For instance, so that a young boy could play it without it feeling too stupid for him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BePP156LQgY&list=RDBePP156LQgY&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaiK4eLaizI&list=RDBePP156LQgY&index=13

I say this mostly because of all the hard rock themes and the dark humor like the suicidal fire ghosts in Subcon Forest

>>530171221
Especially the Vanessa's curse stuff and her whole level.

I was playing A Hat in Time recently, and I had a random thought.

Do you guys think that Gears for Breakfast went out of their way to make sure that the game wasn't too "girly" or "childish"? For instance, so that a young boy could play it without it feeling too stupid for him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BePP156LQgY&list=RDBePP156LQgY&start_radio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaiK4eLaizI&list=RDBePP156LQgY&index=13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEjZFvJy8oI&list=RDOEjZFvJy8oI&start_radio=1


I say this mostly because of all the hard rock themes and the dark humor like the suicidal fire ghosts in Subcon Forest, the Vanessa's cures stuff, and especially her manor.

Either way, I think it was a great decision.

>>530169861
Anon, tell me you didn't fall for grifters lies about sweet baby inc and similar consulting firms? They lied to you. They lied to you to keep you angry so you will be their little right wing friend. Do you really believe SBI actually writes the stories? Or black mails companies into being diverse? Anon come on, you're smarter than that!
Here's what firms like SBI really do: Sometimes, devs decide to include people who are different from them, or come from a different culture than them in their video games. And often because they come from a different culture, they hire firms like SBI to go over the script and make sure it fits with culture.
Prime example: When Mass Effect Andromda included a tranny character, that tranny character basically introduced herself by saying: "I worked in some dead-end lab. Back then I went by Stephan. But that was never who I was. Hainly Abrams feels right". What SBi does is they spot dialogue like that, and let them know: "A tranny would never give their deadname like that, they do not offer it as a nostalgic anecdote to strangers". That's all they do.
>But that one SBI woman admitted to extorting companies!!!
No, to highlight how important consulting like this is, she encouraged employees to point out how much backlash companies can get for shitty token inclusion, and what a PR hit it is. That is not extortion by any means.
>But SBI made suicide squad Harley kill batman!!!
No, SBI does not write the script. They did some dialogue touch ups for that game. Some writer decided on killing Batman, because writers love writing shocking deaths for Iconic characters. Like Joker dying in Arkham City. But also considering that it's a multiverse story, the chances of batman staying dead where pretty much 0. I believe it was later revealed to be a clone or something.

Don't let faggots on the internet trick you into being angry at windmills friend. This is a fucking boogeyman for easy outrage clicks. Nothing more.

>>530035087
>Can you describe a bit more, what you mean?
something sort of call cthulhuy
average joes up against a godly entity where directly fighting it seems almost impossible

>>530172690
Nha it feel more like the game was made out of actual love for platformer games in general. Id say that despite the general visual themes, the main targeted demographic for the game would have been adults who had fond memory of old platformers from the ps1/n64 era, but its obviously designed to be relatively kid safe so it can be enjoyed by all ages even in co op. This is emphasized by the fact you can play true splitscreen co-op, which was kind of rare for pc games, at least it was back when the game came out.

>>530172690
Not sure why you think young girls wouldn't enjoy hard rock themes or dark humor

>>530150629
Go play Thaumcraft, that's basically what you're asking for, generally plenty of Minecraft magic mods are basically engineering games where you do actual magical research. They are the only games that ever made me feel like a wizard to begin with.

>>530169861
The publisher published a game which had confirmed SBI involvement, so very possible.
>>530173052
If that's all they did then the games they were working at would not have such fucking obnoxious political inserts - because apparently that's what they're supposed to remove. Yet they do and it's extremely obnoxious.

remember to trust your co-drivers, bros

>>530178565
Driving that fast in the rain is horrifying.

>>530178850
better yet, i had no wet tires because it was 3 stages before the next service, and only one of them had rain
by the third one i was basically driving on barely held-together scraps of rubber

>>530173052
thanks for this

>>530178521
If a company cares about "offending" specific groups of people, it's obviously left leaning
If it's left leaning, then it's likely to have left-leaning agenda popular in it's circles. Simple as that. It's very likely the message was there from the very beginning, and it's just noted/exaggerated by the SBI.

>>530181967
>If a company cares about "offending" specific groups of people, it's obviously left leaning
have you considered china

>>530173052
>anyone who criticized SBI is a right wing grifter
Interesting how leftists suddenly in unison started calling everyone they don't like grifters.
Wonder who put out that software update.

Who invited /vpol/?

>>530181967
Then either way, SBI serves as a perfect fucking stamp to show which games will have annoying messaging in them anyways, so I will keep not buying games connected to them.

>>530170865
Tactic Ogre. Maybe Front Mission too? I have a friend that loves it but he can't tell me which one to play, it's a multi-consoles franchise.
Also, sexo. Mucho sexo.

>>530183284
And for once I wasn't involved!
t. most notorious local /pol/ shitter

>>530178521
>If that's all they did then the games they were working at would not have such fucking obnoxious political inserts
I put it to you that they generally do not. Usually it's outrage merchants completely overplaying how bad they are. For instance any woman remotely capable will always be described as "obnoxious girlboss" by these types. It's not that there are particularly obnoxious inserts, but rather that anything that does not pander specifically to their desires gets described as a villainous attack on video games as a whole.
>>530183007
Oh you can criticize SBI. It just should be a legitimate criticism, instead of conspiracy theories. For instance: It is a valid criticism that the word "grifter" is throwing around maybe too much. I too, am guilty of using it a lot.

>>530179329
I'm afraid it will mostly fall on deaf ears, but I figured it might help to post some truth to 4chan every now and then.

Shit anons I don't know what the fuck to play. I meant to play Sengoku but I couldn't motivate myself all day to even start the fucking game. What's wrong with me?

>>530185616
Sengoku is shit, though. Paradox stopped supporting it.

>>530184515
>I put it to you that they generally do not. Usually it's outrage merchants completely overplaying how bad they are. For instance any woman remotely capable will always be described as "obnoxious girlboss" by these types. It's not that there are particularly obnoxious inserts, but rather that anything that does not pander specifically to their desires gets described as a villainous attack on video games as a whole.
Nah, they're not overplaying it, usually people who are ideologically influenced write like shit when using those tropes. You can clearly see when someone writes a gay romance story and actually likes it and when someone writes it to grab ideological points. I loved Deltarune and Little Goody Two Shoes but I cannot fucking stand characters like Faerin from WoW or barely fucking disguised political allegories like Hardspace Shipbreaker, Beacon Pines, Donut County, Dustborn or any other kind of fucking story where writers are too busy jerking themselves off to their political ideas rather than making a good story.

>>530184515
>For instance any woman remotely capable will always be described as "obnoxious girlboss"
This is a lie. Lara croft, samus aran and ripley are strong female leads that these complaints were not leveled against. More recent examples would be the protagonist of stellar blade and nier.
>It just should be a legitimate criticism
By providing consultation and being at least partially responsible for story direction, themes and some particular points, it would be semantics to claim SBI is not at least partially responsible for the almost universally horrible plot and writing in the games they are usually involved in.
It can only be assumed that what would have been a merely mediocre plot in games they are affiliated with is made severely less appealing to regular people and damages the overall quality of anything related to the writing for the sake of their ideology.
And I do not see why there is a need to defend a company that openly admits their primary goal is pushing their silly fringe politics into video games.

>>530179329
Why do you answer your own posts?

>>530183284
It happened because I complained about disliking an indie video game I finished so it's not exactly unrelated.
>The writing is boring and feels like someone is trying to teach me about environmentalism
Is a completely valid complaint to have, especially that you can have an environmental message in a game without making the story boring garbage see Crow County which conveyed its environmental message through a geniuently clever twist that completely changed the way you see the entire game.

>>530187495
>teaches you about unions
pssh
nothing personnel, capitalist

>>530187495
Sorry *Crow Country not Crow County

>>530187665
No Crow Country For Old Men.

>>530187181
makes me feel good

>>530186926

>>530188431
based

>>530186926
um ashktually Shipbreaker is more social than political.

>>530187609
Bitch, shut the fuck up about your deadbeat junkyard dad. I just want to go to bed after all day of flinging bulkheads into the furnace and slicing computers apart with the saw.

I do want a sequel to this game with actual hazard 10 ships. Dropping it at 9 is just bluebally.

>>530188602
Good wagecuck, keep redditposting and suck up to your boss.

>>530187495
The union plot would have been less annoying if my coworkers were less retarded and didn't sabotage my career without my consent and my long term goal didn't seem actually doable because it's a fucking job that you're expected to work for years.
The plight of your coworker "friends" not being completely irredeemable pretty much relied entirely on your reasonable manager being needlessly replaced by an out of touch, utterly moronic, moustache twirling comically evil caricature of a greedy corpo. I assume a last minute writing change because someone pointed out how stupid and forced siding with the union would be otherwise.
God, the story ruined that campaign, it makes me genuinely angry.

>>530173052
>Implying its even deniable given how blatant it is at times

You can literally tell the moment in production SBI got involved with the devs of Hardspace: Shipbreaker, for exemple, due to how blatant of a narrative shift they brought to the storyline. It straight up shifted from humoristic satire with hints of backgrounds lore involving rogue AI's and higher up covering the issue, to unironic pro-unionist drivel with an antagonist (in a fucking puzzle game about recycling ships ffs) so freaking stereotypical he would have been written as a red herring if SBI werent purely politically minded hacks without an iota of actual writing talent. And the worst is how it railroad you HARD, you straight up cant skip any of the political drivel infodump which are fucking constant, nor can you deviate from the pro-union narrative.

You can tell this shit was tacked on without the slightest care for the original gameplay or vision of the dev for the game.

>>530188786
Did you even read the post beyond your perceived union busting?
>bulkhead into furnace
>sclicing computers with saw.

>>530188602
The fact they only bothered adding 4 kinds of ships to salvage was the worst thing. There was so many interesting things they could have done with the concept.

>>530148232
>Kingdom Come: Deliverance
>Looks janky as hell
It is way less janky than it looks, and it is very good. One of the few true RPGs of modern times.

>>530189063
Nha it wasnt a late in development change, they're just that out of touch with reality. You wouldnt believe the kind of nonsensical generalizations they believe as fact, like how islamophobic individuals are racist because they assume that islamophobic peoples think muslims mean arabic. I wish I was joking, nearly had an aneurysm trying to explain to one such person irl how critique of Sunni Islam has nothing to do with race, but they wouldnt budge and come up with the most far fetched of prejudices to shut me up.

The cherry on top was they revealed the only reason they got that uppidy about what I said is because they took it personally because one of their friend was a Coptic Christian of Egyptian origin... A minority actively repressed and persecuted by the Sunni of Egypt...

This interaction was soul draining to say the least.

>>530173052
>she encouraged employees to point out how much backlash companies can get for shitty token inclusion
Which is to say, none, until *they* got involved.

>>530186926
I think you missed the conversation a bit, we were talking about what SBI does, and you seem to be talking about devs including themes you do not like in general.
Of the games you mentioned I have only played Hardspace Shipbreaker and I thought it was a good story, even if it was a pretty standard story for Sci-Fi games.

>>530187002
>Lara croft, samus aran and ripley
Ah, anon. These are PRE culture war female characters! Characters and IP from before the culture war started, tends to get a pass for being politically left leaning, or for featuring powerful and capable female characters. Most culture warriors were introduced to characters at an age and a time where they were not yet trained to see "evil feminism" in every portrayal of a capable woman. Ripley would certainly be mocked hardcore if the movie came out these days, much like the protagonist of "PREY" (the movie not the video game) was mocked for taking on the predator as a woman. For example: if "Remember me" came out today, the failure of the game would have been attributed to "go woke go broke" forced girlboss main character. But it came out prior to the culture war, and thus it was just widely panned as a forgetabble shit/mid game. As for Stellar Blade, the culture warriors championed the game, precisely because they thought it was a "win" again progressive female characters. They saw it as an "anti-woke" return of women as skimpily clothed sex objects. They did not champion it because Eve is a feminist icon.
>part two of the post
I mean, that's a lot of assuming going on. All sweet baby Incs job is, that if there is supposed to be some inclusion / diversity, to make that not terrible. As for the "almost universally horrible plot", I believe this again is heavily overplayed by anti-woke outrage merchants, who rage (and teach their viewers to rage) at any glimpse of progressive ideology in a video game, and equate not wanting to see that, with the story being shit
(1/2)

>>530191801
(2/2)
Do some games have progressive thems AND suck? Absolutely. But correlation does not equal causation. To say "Suicide Squad has pride flags and SBI and also Suicide Squad sucks, therefore the woke elements and SBI made Suicide Squad Sucks" is great for an outrage youtube video, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I have played Suicide Squad and actually the dumb humor is the better part of the game. The parts that actually make the game suck is that it's an always online looter shooter games as a service suckfest. And I can promise you: No wokies were involved in that decision.

>>530187495
I'm certainly trying to keep it vidya related. No interest in just discussing politics with anons.
>>530189172

You can literally tell the moment in production SBI got involved with the devs of Hardspace: Shipbreaker, for exemple, due to how blatant of a narrative shift they brought to the storyline.
See this is ironic, considering they did not work on hardspace shipbreaker and there is no evidence that they did. This should be a wake up call for you anon: The outrage merchants had you so angry at a boogieman that doesn't exist, that you convinced yourself, that a game that independently had a left leaning narrative was part of the conspiracy of the evil company destroying the video games!
Anon, it is as I said: you have fallen to an anti-woke cult. Some people are just lefties and put lefty themes in video games. It's not a conspiracy, it doesn't make the games automatically bad, people have just put their beliefs in their art since ever.

>>530191801
NTA but is the girl from Zero Dawn a girlboss? She came out to me like a very grounded, considering the depiction of female leads in other media.

>>530191801
>played Hardspace Shipbreaker and I thought it was a good story
holy shit dude
i genuinely hope you're either baiting or develop tastebuds or some point in your life

>>530191801
>These are PRE culture war female characters!
Doesn't matter.
>Characters and IP from before the culture war started, tends to get a pass for being politically left leaning
No.
>Ripley would certainly be mocked hardcore if the movie came out these days
You do not at all understand what causes these characters to be mocked or not.
>They saw it as an "anti-woke" return of women as skimpily clothed sex objects
You really wear your politics on your sleeve.
>I have only played Hardspace Shipbreaker and I thought it was a good story
Wow, that says a lot.
This is a complete waste of time, but I assume you thought HW3's story was good too.

>>530192903
>>530193069
Don't reply to bait.

>>530192903
>i genuinely hope you're either baiting
It's bot spam in the veil of a civilized discussion.

>>530191801
>I think you missed the conversation a bit, we were talking about what SBI does, and you seem to be talking about devs including themes you do not like in general.
I'm saying that if a game has SBI involvement it is very likely that the devs are ideologically inclined and awful writers. You are trying to argue that progressive themes have nothing to do with dogshit storytelling, but the issue is with the fact that the writers care more about political ideology than good writing. Therefore those two are not just correlated but have a causal relationship.

Not every progressive is going to be a terrible writer, but insane progressive zealots are going to be terrible writers just like insane zealot cosnervatives are going to be terrible writers.

>>530169861
Pardon me...

>>530193182
>>530193160
u rite my bad

>>530191973
>considering they did not work on hardspace shipbreaker and there is no evidence that they did
SBI partnered with the developers of hardspace.

>>530189063
>completely irredeemable pretty much relied entirely on your reasonable manager being needlessly replaced by an out of touch, utterly moronic, moustache twirling comically evil caricature of a greedy corpo.
have you ever worked a corpo job? Because these people exist EVERYWHERE in the corpo world. Here's an example of something similar from the creator of Beavis and Butthead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA
Absolutely not fucking listening to what the person under him has to say, just caring about himself and what he needs. This is a common trope for a reason. It's not like lefties just imagined them.

>>530192596
I wouldn't say she's "girlboss"? That's really a derogatory term by anti-wokes for any woman who is capable. I would describe Aloy as stubborn / determined first and foremost. Curious and rebellious. Not particularly "girlboss".
>>530192903
I mean it's a bogstandard sci-fi "evil hypercapitlist corpo is evil" story. That's like 80% of all sci-fi. It was fine.
>>530193069
>Doesn't matter.
Of course it does. Because they want to change modern games. So naming old games with women they liked before they cared about feminism is them just weaponizing their nostalgia. "Wasn't it nice when I didn't think about the fact portraying Ripley as a kickass woman might be inspiriational for other women?"
>You really wear your politics on your sleeve.
I never claimed not to be a leftoid.

>>530193773
>source: dude trust me

>>530193818
>I wouldn't say she's "girlboss"? That's really a derogatory term by anti-wokes for any woman who is capable
>except for all the capable women this isn't applied to, ignore those
>portraying Ripley as a kickass woman might be inspiriational for other women
>but when stellar blade does it it's sexist and bad and wrong
>they just don't complain about the old stuff
>pay no heed to them not complaining about the new stuff that does the same thing
the cognitive dissonance is astonishing

>>530187002
And people even complained when such characters were shown as weak or subservient to men (ex.Other M)

>>530191801
>Ripley would certaintly be mocked

I hate how your ilk act all condescending from some high horse about how you are against prejudice, but at the same time your whole argument depend on prejudice on what some hypothetical ideological scarecrow might think of it. No, your belief that such may be isnt proof of such, its your opinion, nuance.

stardew sucks dude

>>530195436
Progressives generally do this fucking strawman when they will say "Oh you are pointing wrongly to the progressive theme, the problem is bad writing!" and they don't realize that the point is "Your extreme-progressive ideology is what makes you write like shit you fucking retard."

>>530194982
>but when stellar blade does it it's sexist and bad and wrong
>Stellar Blade
This reminds me thatI still don't know why I follow PCGaymer on RSS or any other modern game "journalists".

>>530195874
>stardew sucks dude
The loli mod is okay though.

>>530170865
If you're not speaking about tacticals specifically, Expedition 33.

>>530194982
>I wouldn't say she's "girlboss"? That's really a derogatory term by anti-wokes for any woman who is capable
What's wrong with this? It gets throwing around the same way as "go woke go broke". Any female protagonist gets called a girlboss.
>except for all the capable women this isn't applied to, ignore those
Again, I'm not saying this at all. I'm saying specifically that culture war people, tend to not re-examine the games they enjoyed in their past. Nobody went back to 1993's shadowrun to go: "Wait this is anti-capitalist, and has analogies for racism, I hate those now! This sucks actually!". The same is true for Lara croft. In fact: those female characters become a counter argument to new female characters. They get reduced as ammo for a meaningless "I don't hate women protagonists, I liked these 3 protagonists from 30 to 40 years ago!" And the same with protagonists like Eve, who are liked because they serve as mere sexobjects for men. Of course women being used to offer their bodies to men do not get the same hate from anti-feminist culture warriors as women who seem strong and independent, which is what they hate.
>pay no heed to them not complaining about the new stuff that does the same thing
They do not do the same thing. Not even remotely. Eve is purely a character for tittilation. Ripley yes, had her underwear scene, but she did not spend the entire movie in a tiny bikini.

>>530195436
Again, I'm not just giving a hypothetical, I am citing an example: The movie prey, which is very similar. Which culture war outrage merchants like the Critical Drinker heavily mocked and shittalked for having an overly capable female character. (which he then tried to hide when the movie was actually really good and people liked it).
Also: If I come off condescending I apologize. I truly do not mean to be condescending. But I guess being told that something you believe in is actually an astro-turfed culture war will feel like it. Anyways, keep it vidya.

>>530193849
I know for a fact SBI retroactively removed proof of involvements with certain companies and games when they got bad rep for their involvement, ie Square Enix. So its a thing they do.

>>530197290
source: no really, trust me bro. For sure.

>>530197027
>eve, the ridiculously powerful female protagonist doesn't do the same thing because...uh...she's attractive
>unlike ripley because she's...uhhhhhhh......
the cognitive dissonance

>>530197290
>>530197418
Square Enix changed from SBW to another one called Hit Detection or something like that.
>source on that
Google is free my fren.

>>530198037
>SBW
SBI*

>b-b-b-but you didnt hate the old games that had the same theme!!!
Stop making shit games.

>>530198518
>b-b-b-but you didnt hate the old games that had the same theme!!!
>Stop making shit games.
To be honest, game's these days have shit plot, and the forced inclusion of niggers and lesbians, doesn't really improve the situation.

>>530198518
But instead of needing to go through the effort of creating good writing we can get government grants to make our female leads ugly and annoying.

>>530198752
Ehhhhhh, AAA yes, but this is an indie thread, but then again the blacks and lesbos might be replaced by furries and if done right, I'd prefer.

But now that you mention it, the only game I can think of that caught my attention story wise was Cyberpunk 2077 and prior to that BG3, BG3 has some woke stuff but you could easily tone it out.

Ahh fuck, the more I type the more I realize you're right about vidya plots.

>>530197956
Anon. You can't tell me you don't see the difference between left pic and right pic. Do you really believe, that these are identical, feminist portrayals of women, because they're both... powerful? And again: they get accepted for different reasons. Ripley because she is pre-culture war (hell she's pre-most of the anti culture war people being born). While Eve gets accepted as an anti-woke sex symbol. Fucking grummz was tweeting about stellar blade every day, because like I said anti-woke outrage merchants positioned her being depicted like pure wank material as a win against wokeness.
>>530198037
Brother I'm not gonna google non-existent proof that a company that didn't work on Hardspace Shipbreaker, worked on hardspace shipbreaker. (I'm lying. I did google it when it first came up so I don't look like a retard, hence why I said they didn't fucking work on the game, because they fucking didn't.).

>>530199536
>Brother I'm not gonna google non-existent proof that a company that didn't work on Hardspace Shipbreaker, worked on hardspace shipbreaker. (I'm lying. I did google it when it first came up so I don't look like a retard, hence why I said they didn't fucking work on the game, because they fucking didn't.).
Dafuq you are sperging about? I was making a comment correcting an Anon about Square Enix. What the fuck has that to do with your rant?

>>530199536
>meanwhile feminists march through the street ass naked to protest
You're right, eve is more a feminist icon than ripley but she still isn't "feminist" enough.
But more seriously, I don't share your ideology, I think being attractive doesn't make a female character bad.

>>530169861
Anyone remember which version number the Hardspace was in before they replaced Weaver's in-house tired southern veteran VA with Aaron Douglas, painted him as a mexican and pushed in the unskippable monologues?

>>530199536
>pre-culture war
Tell us where you are on the faggot spectrum.

>>530199506
>>530199393
I mean one of the biggest truths about "go woke go broke" in both movies and games is: Sometimes movies and games are just shit. And 90% of the time someone telling you that it is shit because it is woke, is lying to you.
I can think of one example: Dustborn. A game that went so hard to try and deliver a political message, that it forgot to make the actual game good. (still anti-wokes had to make up lies about it, lmao). But other than that? Eh, sometimes shit's just shit. Anthem wasn't shit because it was woke, but because it was always online live service slop. Star Wars Outlaws wasn't shit because of a forced female character, but because it was yet another paint by numbers soulless ubisoft game. Just like their recent Tom Clancy titles. But those are military based, so nobody calls them "woke". But they're still the same shit. Avengers didn't flop because it was woke, because again: live service slop and just the blandest most generic fucking gameplay If it didn't came out in 2020 I would say it was created by fucking AI that's how generic that shit was.
Wokeness is a fucking boogeyman to keep you watching youtube channels and streamers so that they can keep telling you what the wokies are coming for next and why you hate it. Because here's the truth: If you look hard enough, you can find something "woke" almost anywhere. Game has a woman? Woke. Game has someone not straight? Woke. Game has someone with a disability? Woke. Game has the male character receiving help from a woman? Woke. And once you trained your audience to see every little thing as a "woke invasion", you can point these out in any media that is kinda shit, and say that it is in fact shit, because of the woke elements you detected in it. Regardless of how much they actually had to do with it being bad.

>>530200117
>the left just hates female characters.
The Idea that we hate them is pure cope by chuds. Lefties are fully thirsting about all the Baldurs Gate 3 characters for instance, which not only are mostly all conventionally attractive, but also can get fully naked. So it's not like we hate skimpy clothes or nudity in general. lefties also loved Lady Dimitrescu if tall goth mommies are more your thing. Or Aphrodite who's also butt-ass naked, many also thirst after Witcher 3 characters, and everyone is fighting about who's the best and hottest in Cyberpunk, another game where you can get pretty damn naked. Many also quite like Nier Automata.
So the theory that us SJW's hate sexiness and attractiveness and don't want it in games, CLEARLY does not hold up. So why do chuds say we hate it? Simple: When Chuds say "Attractive women" what they mean is: "objectified women". Women, who regardless of setting, regardless if it fits or not are nothing more than something for male gamers to get aroused by to remind them that this game was made for them, and for nobody else. That's why they want Alloy, an outcast from a warrior tribe to look like a heavily airbrushed instagram model. That's why they championed Stellar Blade as the "anti woke" game despite it being bland as shit: because it has a ton of women wearing highly sexualized bikinis.
It is not that the left hates attractive women, it is that the left wants fully realized good characters, as well as characters that exists for something other than purely male arousal: Old people, disabled people, fat and otherwise less conventionally attractive people.
But chuds cherry pick games that feature these characters and act like those are the ONLY ones we allow, because if they say the truth, that they only want women to be in games if they are reduced to sex objects for the male desire, normies will call them weirdo freaks. so they flip it.

>correlation isn't causation!
Yes, it's good that you learned that. However, it does not mean you can throw out every statistic and pattern because of it.
As usual
>>the left
>we
Willingly choose not see gray areas.

>>530201308
NTA but that is a lot of cope about which characters you are allowed to goon for. Literally "wrongthink".
And I say this as a centre to left leaning voting guy.

A reminder to all that the gay French far-left anon who shills for the destruction of and everything bad in games should be treated with the same contempt and derision as something stuck to the bottom of your shoe.

>>530201987
I am far more gentle with crap stuck to my shoes than what will happen if I meet that traitor. Shit stuck on shoes get scraped off and left alone or thrown away.
That faggot who can't help but write novellas (He's a writer, you know!) here will get much worse.

>>530201035
>>530201308
>Game has a woman? Woke.
>Game has someone with a disability? Woke. >Game has the male character receiving help from a woman? Woke.
>they only want women to be in games if they are reduced to sex objects for the male desire
>please ignore power armored samus being her most popular depiction
No. No. No. This is an insane leftist creating an insane strawman.
What fucking subreddit did you pull these posts out of?

>>530201743
Well, "allowed" is a bit harsh. (most) leftists don't actually want to forbid games like Stellar Blades. us lefties, we just love to hear ourselves talk, and write thinkpieces about what's problematic and what isn't. We just look at Stellar Blade, and at the bikini costumes that honestly, clash with the vibe of the game and the story something fierce, are clearly there not to elevate Eve, but to reduce her to a mere sex object.
My example was not to create a list of leftie approved goon material, but rather to counter the false narrative that lefties just hate "attractive characters". That is the actual cope. Culture warriors want eve-style bikini bimbo women to be the only women way women are allowed to be portrayed, but they don't want to be identified as degenerate gooners. So they point to us calling out oversexualized designs, or us liking designs of less attractive characters, and they pretend like we want to ban sexy characters.

>>530202285
I'm not a writer, but sadly "Woke shit retarded" "SBI ruins video games" is easier to type, and actually explain why that's wrong takes 500 fucking words. All you have to do is to say: "left is bad". I have to explain why that narrative exists, why and how it is wrong, and what is more likely the case.
Shit adds up.

>>530203101
You don't have to explain shit. Find a support group.

So, uh...
I like Carol. Puts enemies to sleep and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>530203101
>Culture warriors want
Face it faggot, you are one.

>>530202520
What do you mean strawman? have you seen criticisms of:
>star wars outlaws
>Horizon zero dawn / forbidden west
>the last of us part 2
>Forspoken
>Spider man 2
>Battlefield V
>The Last of us part 2
>gta 6 reveal trailer
>That naughty dog space game trailer

>>530203364
I guess technically? Usually our side is called SJW's or something, the right side tends to be called the "culture warriors". But I do participate in fighting the narrative that wokeness is what is ruining games. But again, unlike people trying to tell you that some dark conspiracy is coming to ruin your games, I'm just offering truth.

But I fully accept that it's hard as shit to realize that something you believe so strongly was mostly manipulation. Because here's the truth: I used to be on your side. (which is why I'm still on 4chan). I eventually realized the right was full of shit with the reasons why they hate certain media, and it took me a few years to get myself out of that anti-woke thinking.

>>530203328
She needs SPANKINGS.

>>530203328
I keep seeing her, is her game actually any good?

>>530203101
>but to reduce her to a mere sex object
You're the only one trying to do this.
>Culture warriors want eve-style bikini bimbo women to be the only women way women are allowed to be portrayed
Yet plenty of their favorite women are not this.

>>530204337
>I'm just offering truth.
How very kind of you.

AAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE IS THAT ANTI-FURRY PROPAGANDA ??!!
DEI !!
LEFTIST !!
CALIFORNIA !!

>>530204524
Better than what shitposters yammering about bestiality mods would lead you to believe.

>>530204337
>what do you mean strawman?
>Game has a woman? Woke.
>meanwhile stellar blade was never called this
You're an absolute fucking disingenuous liar to a ridiculous degree.

>>530204524
>is her game actually any good?
Is like a Serious Sam but with loli themed stuff.

>>530201035
>I mean one of the biggest truths about "go woke go broke" in both movies and games is: Sometimes movies and games are just shit.
I really really agree with this and lot of the other stuff you said too, I also fucking despise the YouTubers and streamers you mentioned cause I know their exact type. Fear mongering boogymen who manipulate those weak of heart and mind into believing that anything vaguely woke looking is bad when there's so many factors if media is shit or not that it really depends on doing your own research and not being spoonfed YouTube slop.

But I feel it's still worth mentioning no one rational complains about Sarah Connor or Demoman or Samus or Ripley because they're just well written characters (maybe not Samus but whatevs). Woke stuff being shit is compounded by as you say, it just being shit.

Though some people on this site will complain about fucking anything that deviates from the norm. From the posts I've read on here it's likely due to untreated family trauma that was left to fester.

>got four barrels of ale and beer ready
>open tavern
>everything eaten in minutes

>Fear mongering boogymen who manipulate those weak of heart and mind

>>530204647
Kek, what game? Reverse image search isn't giving anything concrete

>>530204559
I mean yeah fair. There is no way to say: "I think you have been mislead, and I can tell because I was in your shoes" that doesn't come off condescending as fuck. But at the same time I don't want to just "manipulate" my fellow anons, and act like I'm not trying to make them see things my way a little. So I'm hoping being honest like that is at least worth something, even if you think I'm wrong.
>>530204528
>You're the only one trying to do this.
My brother in christ I'm not the one modeling her bikini suits
>Yet plenty of their favorite women are not this.
Again, mostly pre-culture war examples.

>>530204868
Again. I explained 5 times why stellar blade is considers "based" by anti-wokes. At this point this is the vidya equivalent of "I can't be racist, I have a nigger friend".

>>530205292
Ale & Tale Tavern.
Very game: there's combat, but it's utter shit.
There's exploring, but it's utter shit.
There's farming, but it's utter shit.
There's cooking and serving, and it's FUN.

Weird how there's no scav posting while he's busy sucking cock

>>530205315
>My brother in christ I'm not the one modeling her bikini suits
>bikinis are only sexist and objectify women when it suits my argument
>please listen to my strawman explaining why they don't actually complain about all women

>if it has a woman they call it woke
>except for all the games with women that aren't called woke
>if she's wearing revealing clothing it makes her a sexual object
>except for all the times women wear those clothes and aren't sexual objects
cognitive
dissonance

>>530205315
>I'm not the one modeling her bikini suits
Well, yeah. You're not the talented female artist.

What the actual fuck did I stumble into

>>530207089
French(?) socialist decided to hijack a thread to talk about how "everything is sexist and misogynist and he has to point it all out" because he "loves to hear himself talk".

>>530207414
>French(?)
French-Canadian of course, actual frenchies have the opposite culture.

>>530204981
>But I feel it's still worth mentioning no one rational complains about Sarah Connor or Demoman or Samus or Ripley because they're just well written characters (maybe not Samus but whatevs)
As I mentioned before: That is because most anti-woke gamers had their political awakening around the gamergate era. (not saying all of them are GGers, just that it became big around that time).
Yes, those women are not hated by anti-wokes. But in the same way they don't hate these women, they also don't attribute wokeness as a reason for failure to games that failed prior to the GG era.
I already mentioned remember me: A female protagonist black woman and the game failed HARD. But because it was pre-culture war, nobody said "it failed because of wokeness". When prototype 2 failed with a black guy in the lead, there was no huge outcry that it was wokeness. anti woke outrage just kinda... doesn't work like that. And it makes sense. Because wokeness can never be something that "always has been there, kinda". it has to be something that is always new, always just around the corner, coming, threatening to ruin YOUR next favourite video game or movie. That's why the old stuff that had women in it? Those are good examples. Back then women were done right! (Even tho as you stated, sometimes it being a woman was just a surprise gimmick reveal at the very end of a game). That's why nobody complaints about them. How many anti-woke channels do you know that particularly care with wokeness of the past (2010 and before)? No, wokeness must always be this new enemy,coming to destroy what you love.

Look at Aloy for example: is she really that worse of a character than Samus, or Ripley or Lara Croft? And I'm not talking less iconic here. Purely in writing. Is her writing that much worse? Specially considering some of the characters mentioned didn't really have much if any writing at all? But you seem alright anon. I'm glad. I think this'll be my last post on the topic for today.

>>530205730
unhinged SJW ranter here. I'm done for now, but I'm not the scav guy. I'm usually the fag who cares about management games and colonie sims, or gets into arguments that it's stupid to still try and force to distinguish between roguelike and roguelite as the majority of people just uses the first one when they mean the second anyway.

>>530207635
>That's why the old stuff that had women in it? Those are good examples. Back then women were done right!
Hmm...maybe...because it was?

>>530207414
Luckily I'm to drunk to care. I've just opened up the thread and saw a bunch posts like
>>530206272
>>530205190
>>530205730

>>530207968
I should play Scav again, been waiting for the update that adds milky and more enemies though

>>530205730
scav poster #2 here, vpol is not welcome

>>530209287
I wanna play as Milky as well.

>>530169861
SBI is just the big pharma/deep state of video games, as in it's only ever brought up by lunatics

and what the fuck is scav?

>>530215540
Look above.

>>530215736
That doesn't look like the scavs I know

>>530216095
extremely autistic and fun survival roguelite

>>530205436
>and it's FUN
I'm sold.

>>530217167
I wouldn't necessarily recommend it. It's kinda like Viscera Cleanup Simulator: you have 5 different tasks to do, but only one is really fun, and it's friendslop.
Solo, it can be fun, because you're running all over the place to try to get customers happy, but then come the boring exploration/combat moments.

>>530207594
This particular one is actual French, he gave that away in a previous conversation.

>>530219638
Are you suuure you're not mixing several people again?

>>530219736
There are only so many gay socialist french retards who talk exactly like that in this thread, anon. I'm reasonably confident it's him, unless they're all almost exactly like that and they're multiplying.

>>530220391
Well duh, the french reproduce through mitosis. Didn't you pay attention in school?

Here we go with the irony poisoning, again...

>The moment that I complain about a game having shitty writing some retard comes in to defend all of the trends in modern games
Guess I will keep my mouth shut next time.

died three times trying to get this screenshot

>>530222356
would

I like Okami, but holy fuck the draw distance is abysmal. It's literally the only thing keeping me from playing more.

>>530225095
The "draw distance"?

>>530225148
The distance where at things start to pop into view as they load. Like for example an NPC in far side of a map or terrain features like tufts of grass or small rocks.

Or are the two of you trying to pun around Okami's drawing/painting gimmick?

>>530225617
No I'm genuinely complaining about the pop-in. Even for 2006 this is terrible. And this is the 'HD' edition.

>>530227403
By my meaty peggable ass, I don't remember it being so awful.

>>530227403
Is it a pc port or on an emulator? if on pc you can probably force the game to render further away by tweaking the files, but dunnos if its on an emulator.

>>530227403
>>530229206
"In Okami HD on PC, the render distance can be adjusted by modifying the okami_cnf.ini file. Locate the file, open it with a text editor, and change the RenderScale value. Default is 10000, and the maximum is 20000. Additionally, you can adjust the field of view within the game's settings to increase the visible area. "

Hope it help

>>530222804
Do not fist android girls

>>530222804
The boss of this area would be better, could the LoP Anon grab a pic? Thought he's most likely getting his absolute shit pushed in cause fuck man she's difficult

>>530227403
yikes this looks bad

i made a whole dining room with a kitchen and tables and nice lamps and it turns out everyone wants to eat in my water cultivation array instead
i don't really blame them it's made out of nice shit but it does kind of annoy me
i should probably find some actual metal emitters to finish the array, -5 law match on my starting cultivator needs all the help it can get for golden core
4k qi isn't great either but that can get worked on

>>530249995
Your cultivation array has a spear in it?
>Metal cultivation materials
Uhhhhhh, camp and enter at Mt. Mesa - Central Plain + Abyss - Mt. Pitfall for Lumina Core, camp and enter at Mt. Rue - Riverbank Plains, or Nimbus Ravine - Heavenstep Peak for one Sage Fruit.

You'll need to go grab a magic altar too, to make up the difference. It will at least let you skip most of the bullshit material needs for a
>water
cultivator's needs. Initiate talks with Kunlun Palace at Mt. Kunlun, buy access to their territory for 200 spirit stone's worth of goods, and then go camp and enter at Mt. Kunlun. Locate an "Altar of Magic" in their sect, select it and choose to 'observe' it in order to learn how they are built. Riverbank Plains has the materials to actually build one if you're missing some.

>>530259026
the spear's just hanging out to absorb qi (even though it's not actually useful)
i have gotten an event twice now that gives my main crafting outer +100% craft quality and it doesn't seem to expire so the bear just pumps out infinite named spiritstone weapons
i should probably just teach him seven chariot already but i kinda wanna max out his crafting first
>bullshit material needs
seriously why is water law like this
i distinctly remember fire and wood being basically nothing other than hang out sometimes

>>530260046
>seriously why is water law like this
Plus there's only one orthodox Water law and it's easily the worst law in the game. Definitely get the feeling the devs hate water as a law for some reason.
You can also get the magic altar from the DLC sect, if you have the good DLC. Would be much easier and you can observe both other types of pill furnace while you're at it, since you need those to make one out of wood. Middle one in this pic.

also all my adventures are so FFFFFUCKING slow
debating learning the opposed element laws for +stats and +qi (but it's so much inspiration and my agencies are not really up and running yet) and regretting not saving my forming pill for this

>>530227403
>for 2006 this is terrible
So it's probably acceptable for 2026.
Optimizing LODs to eliminate/reduce pop-in is not a tech limit thing but a design and quality thing.
Although nowadays poor craftmanship tends to manifest in different ways.

>Everyone talks about Stop Killing Games all over the Internet
>Nobody mentions Guild Wars 1, ever.
Am I the only one who thinks it's hella cool that at the end of it's life they they converted a multiplayer game to be fully solo-able, and said: "Yeah we can just run these servers at very little cost for basically forever, so go nuts if you want"?

I'm so tired of unreal engine.
Why is this shit engine so unstable.

>>530268596
That's just a consequence of technical merit and good architecture. GW uses very little server-side resources compared to most comparable MMORPGs.

But the servers are still eventually going to die and then it can't be played anymore.
I hope they opensource the server software and give account holders option to download their data before deleting everything.