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Anonymous No.529942215 >>529942562
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Previous Thread: >>529449093
Anonymous No.529942562
>>529942215 (OP)
our FUARKING HA hero
Anonymous No.529944234
Anonymous No.529945497 >>529946676 >>529946967
Since class trials are gonna become permanent, should I even bother doing them during the first release?
Anonymous No.529946676 >>529946897
>>529945497
Yes, since that means you get rewards during their first run and rewards when they're made permanent.
Anonymous No.529946897
>>529946676
Oh they reset the rewards?
I hadn't checked the fighter one yet (don't even know if it is live already).
Anonymous No.529946967 >>529949018
>>529945497
yea, it looks like we can clear the shop on the permanent version
so assuming you did the original you would have the ring or w/e combination of scrolls
in addition to the full shop (+500gem if you bought the ring) on permanent
even if you don't have mages ready you should see what you can get anyway
Anonymous No.529949018 >>529949226
>>529946967
Mage trial are up?
Anonymous No.529949226
>>529949018
no, but they said it was coming this month so I would be ready
Anonymous No.529951031 >>529957513
Alright, i beat the vampire, turns out the bats heal for 10x the damage dealt, so if he ever casts it it's ogre
Anonymous No.529957513 >>529958831
>>529951031
Yeah, it’s sort of like a soft enrage.
Anonymous No.529958831 >>529959109
>>529957513
The camera angle was always weird, so i thought it healed for the same amount of damage it dealt.
Anonymous No.529959109
>>529958831
I think on NORMAL vampires it's 1x damage, fighter trial vampire is just fuckin special.
Anonymous No.529961197 >>529962732 >>529965814 >>529973139
It's kind of hilarious how bad they are at monetizing the game
They don't even try to get the non-spenders to spend with a first-time buyer bonus like modern gachas do or even a simple low price high value monthly pack for the light spenders
Even a "free character and weapon after the first purchase" would be enough
Anonymous No.529962732
>>529961197
stinky amelia rape
Anonymous No.529965814 >>529967031
>>529961197
Elaborate. How it is upin other gachas?
Anonymous No.529967031 >>529967971
>>529965814
It's like an extra pack after your first purchase something this way players who generally wouldn’t spend money on the game might start spending for example, if they get a bunch of extra pulls, a free character, or even some bonus gems as a small reward for their first purchase
These incentives are part of a broader strategy in game design and monetization encouraging non-spending players to make their first in-game purchase, which often leads to increased likelihood of future spending
Anonymous No.529967971
>>529967031
>Fuck minnows
>Fuck dolphins
>Fuck whales
This is a F2P and Leviathans game
Anonymous No.529972145 >>530006269
Is there a list of which loot chest re-spawns? I have all the bone locations, but I'm not sure what is the criteria of the abyss chests to spawn again. For example, I did the second run of the 3rd abyss, and it looked like most of the chests where there. Then I completed the 3rd run with the mastermind, started it with another faction and no chests where there, only the random ones. Also, how do I get the bone to spawn on the 2nd abyss at the pier?
Anonymous No.529973139 >>530222650
>>529961197
It was obvious when they nerfed the 3.99 packs, they would've sold way more
Anonymous No.529977205
WHERE IS THE NEW PASS!? Give me FAS stones JOHN!
Anonymous No.529977785 >>529979182 >>529983045
I for one cannot wait for our new kill 300 FOE objective pass that gives glue bomb scrolls
I DEMAND IT NOW
Anonymous No.529979182
>>529977785
Glue is too expensive, best i can do is poison mist (lvl1).
Anonymous No.529980349 >>529989221 >>529989820 >>529991335
Anonymous No.529983045
>>529977785
>Glue bomb
But anon, that won't do ! Even glue bomb has some fringe uses, make it poison attack instead
Anonymous No.529987331 >>529987532
did they make the fighters trials less dogshit with its permanent inclusion?
Anonymous No.529987532
>>529987331
It's harder now, since you can't avoid all fights, and no CC books
Anonymous No.529989221
>>529980349
wouldnt be so bad if this shit junk didnt have a .00001 drop rate...
Anonymous No.529989820 >>530001164
>>529980349
What even is Phantom Shadow? Was Covert Steel tier all along and this is Ebonsteel tier? Are there higher passive stats on them? I am way too lazy to check it out myself since I just assume either the new Abyss will replace it or Samurai will bench Ninja.
Anonymous No.529991335 >>530003541
>>529980349
is refined katana bis for neutralman? aside from tzalik spam
Anonymous No.529999716 >>530000785
>over an hour and a half with no bump
Coooooontent?
Anonymous No.530000253 >>530000487
bros... i got to 1 million exp on mage mc and then accidentally rested at the inn. it's never been more over for me.
Anonymous No.530000487
>>530000253
RIP in piss.
Most of the best grinding areas should be high enough that you’re still getting the maximum EXP bonus though even at level 40.
Anonymous No.530000538
Why ask for new content when you haven't finished farming current CONTENT?

Cave
Of
Ninjas
Teaching
Evil
Ninja
Teachings
Anonymous No.530000785 >>530001431
>>529999716
Post your true guarda clear
Anonymous No.530001164 >>530006383
>>529989820
phantom shadow is the old tier, (steel), covert is ebonsteel
they had an event near ninja launch where they gave it out often, I regret selling the 3* from that now since they were giving them out like candy
Anonymous No.530001431 >>530002302
>>530000785
are you...le happy?
Anonymous No.530001716
Don't speak to me now I'll lose focus
Anonymous No.530002302 >>530002475
>>530001431
Ok now show the 0 corruption clear achievement
Anonymous No.530002475
>>530002302
might as well ask me to kill myself
Anonymous No.530003118 >>530003634
HoW dO i BeCoMe A gWo?
Anonymous No.530003541
>>529991335
Exquisite katana.
Refined is steel tier while exquisite is ebonsteel tier.
Assuming katanas are 1-handed weapons, katanas have better ATK than 1-handed swords and better MAG than 1-handed staffs, too bad TZALIKman can't use shields, so for pure TZALIK spam, 2-handed staffs are better.
Also, Samurai's probably can't use shields either if TZALIKman is any indication. Samurais also weren't known for using shields historically.
Anonymous No.530003634
>>530003118
You have always been a GWO gwo
Anonymous No.530006269
>>529972145
Generally you respawn an abyss by wheeling back to the first section of it. If that doesn't work (you might not realize this but WizDaph is somewhat buggy haha!) then go through the Bad Ending in the respective abyss you wish to respawn and things should be back if their timers are up. The pier bone is monthly.
The only other notable spawns off the top of my head are the Nourishing daily by the abyss 1 GWO, the Mimic Cum daily at the end of floor 6, and the two monthly Mana Elixir chests, one in the unlocked Ship treasure hatch room after True End in Abyss 2 and one in the south of Zone 9 in Abyss 3. Besides chest spawns, quest rewards are typically monthly and Bonepicker's bone is weekly
Anonymous No.530006383
>>530001164
Oh I scrapped all of those too. Yeah fuck that I'm waiting for the new abyss to farm
Anonymous No.530009323
Lulunarde toxic feminine butthole
Anonymous No.530009645 >>530009918 >>530010192
>30-40 ratio pills/chest from ninger cave
>need like 40k total to clear shop
you rike content?
Anonymous No.530009918 >>530009974
>>530009645
I got the skill scrolls and a few of the gems and i'm only at 6m~ xp in ninja
not gonna grab the boots, think I'm good with w/e I get to finish this
Anonymous No.530009974 >>530010132
>>530009918
whats so good about the boots?
Anonymous No.530010132
>>530009974
they give confuse/charm resist
if you roll a good one you could use the shop to get fodder
I'm not gonna bother unless I get a hype roll
Anonymous No.530010192
>>530009645
It'll take that long to get 1 (uno) 3* exquisite katana.
Anonymous No.530016051
Dead and buried.
Anonymous No.530017769
Dear Mr Drecom, we need content.
nyow.
Anonymous No.530017898 >>530222932
Rinne fighter is content
Savia samurai is content
Lana bikini is content
Anonymous No.530018115
go level your mage and wanderers, that's your content
farm some ninjer gear on the side too while you're at it
Anonymous No.530018375
what are some good well of the mind nodes? Is slayer passive on the far right worth and what kind?
Anonymous No.530019897
Grim, /vmg/ imminent.
Anonymous No.530020473
freaking elves
regards, Lanavaille
Anonymous No.530020481
>get anywhere from 25-50 ration pills per chest
>need 12500 to clearthe skill exp pages
what the fuck is this shit again drecom. . .
Anonymous No.530023039 >>530023150 >>530023734
Anyone managed to change their alignment? Trying to find a reliable way to get inside the cool evil adventurer's club..
Anonymous No.530023150
>>530023039
>cool evil
Stop being seduced by evil elves
Anonymous No.530023734
>>530023039
I jumped from good to nootral after shanking a dwigger
Anonymous No.530024275
#StopRacism
Every race is equal as an offering to Agora
Anonymous No.530030398
its over lulu, im leaving you behind and moving on to a more fulfilling and content filled life
Anonymous No.530033930 >>530034445 >>530036608 >>530039998 >>530047184
NOOB QUERY because I'm not a regular here, pls answer:
I already have a another fighter in my party, should I change my Lv 60 Fighter Lanavaille to a Lv 60 Knight or keep her as-is?

Thanks in advance, /wizg/.
Anonymous No.530034318
Are there any quest rewards that I can repeat for selling for gold? Or do they all vanish like the Handkerchief?
Anonymous No.530034445 >>530034601
>>530033930
You have no use for her as a Knight right now
I recommend waiting for the next update when they raise the level cap to see if Knights learn any new skill
You could do it just to prefarm exp but class change scrolls aren't easy to come by
Anonymous No.530034601 >>530034921 >>530040160 >>530040372 >>530072767
>>530034445
Are Knights really that bad? I find some of their defensive skills somewhat useful in boss fights. Or maybe I'm just a noob who can't really ascertain this yet.
>You could do it just to prefarm exp but class change scrolls aren't easy to come by
I didn't clarify in my original port, but my Lana was already a Lv 60 Knight before I class-changed her to a Fighter and grinded her up to Lv 60 as well. So my two choices are just: Fighter Lana or Knight Lana.
Anonymous No.530034921
>>530034601
Well they are useful on hard boss fights like you described just not as useful in general especially when you can just bring a Warrior
As of now after you clear Guarda multiple times they don't really have a use over Warriors
Anonymous No.530035721
Fighter Lana is the coolest:
big damage
big defense
short hair
looks like a bacha bazi
she doesnt want to die
Anonymous No.530035805 >>530036309
Anonymous No.530036309
>>530035805
She’s still smarter than me…
Anonymous No.530036608 >>530037485
>>530033930
Best front line is 3 fighters at this point, unless you have some really geared out ninjas.
Anonymous No.530037048 >>530037102
wanderer would be the strongest class from its class multipliers alone if it could use class exclusive skills
Anonymous No.530037102
>>530037048
Max level wanderer will get a passive that lets it ignore class restrictions.
Trust the P L A N.
Anonymous No.530037485
>>530036608
I see, thanks.
Anonymous No.530039998 >>530047262
>>530033930
She is great fighter. That said you can go full circle and bring back all fighter skills back to knight. Anyway if you want her to be fighter don't forget to grab all knight skills. They are useful.
Anonymous No.530040160 >>530047262
>>530034601
Knights are great for boss fight. That said they are less useful in exploration or auto farming.
Anonymous No.530040372 >>530047262
>>530034601
In that case keep her as fighter. Knights are easy to come. If anything you could switch devra or Chloe into knights.
Anonymous No.530047184 >>530047262
>>530033930
Leave her as fighter, if you need a knight grab someone else
Anonymous No.530047262 >>530074865
>>530039998
>>530040160
>>530040372
>>530047184
Very helpful answers, thanks friends.
Anonymous No.530052165
next week for sure
Anonymous No.530052294 >>530052575 >>530052761
Nyo.. i don't wana level mage...
Anonymous No.530052575 >>530053656
>>530052294
lvl 45 wanderer, take it or leave it. I'm just gonna hope lvl 60 sheli and yek can handle it
Anonymous No.530052761
>>530052294
I'd at the least grab the first 30 lvls for spells and roll wanderer
Anonymous No.530053113 >>530053209
Team is Level 40! I'm ready to fight in the arena! Content here I come!
Anonymous No.530053209
>>530053113
go gettem champ
Anonymous No.530053656
>>530052575
Sheli, tzalikman and me wandering at lvl 40, hope is good enough
Anonymous No.530054525
I hope mage trial is not very soon.
Don't know who will be my third party member, Alice is in for sure. Yeka would be great as well, but I don't want to class change her back to mage, cc tokens are rare...
Anonymous No.530055367
So what does map assist do?
Anonymous No.530057316 >>530059242
I haven't even unlocked mage.
Anonymous No.530059106 >>530059364
huh, i thought ninja needed only 8.5kk exp...
Anonymous No.530059242
>>530057316
Its a GWO downgrade. You are better off as is.
Anonymous No.530059364
>>530059106
lol
Anonymous No.530059465
My MC came from ninja so leveling him as a mage is just him casting critical hit dagger on the enemy
Anonymous No.530059732
>he rolled for rinne thinking itd take a day to get her to 60
Gwo...
Anonymous No.530059993 >>530060643 >>530060679 >>530062517 >>530064661
what are purple codexes best spent on?
Anonymous No.530060234
unique character skills. It's like getting a dupe for them
Anonymous No.530060563 >>530060894
yeah but which one
Anonymous No.530060643
>>530059993
Skills that can't be inherited or skills you're likely not going to be able to inherit like limited character skills.

I'm strongly considering (haven't done it yet) maxing out Recovery on MC, so he gets a good chance to heal off paralyze after reviving.
Anonymous No.530060651
alice to lvl 3 is always a good bet. Other than that use your brain or hoard until eos
Anonymous No.530060679
>>530059993
Blessing of agora on alice, then hold until EoS.
Anonymous No.530060894
>>530060563
if you don't know what you need, you don't need to use them. This isn't a "smoke'em if you got'em" kind of game.

As much fun as it is to make your favorite character completely busted, you should be thinking about what your goal is in terms of gameplay and how to best accomplish that. Because you WILL get stuck on something and wish you had it.
Anonymous No.530061374
level whatever you want, 90% chance you'll regret it anyway.
Anonymous No.530061701 >>530062679
Do you think John Drecom will release a malware free version to steam?
Anonymous No.530062517
>>530059993
I'm using them to level True Word of Fire to 7, after that, it's probably going into Tzalik. I won't waste them on skills that can be inherited passively like Blessing of Agora.
Anonymous No.530062679
>>530061701
zoomer-kun...
Anonymous No.530063124 >>530063394 >>530081530
are you a whalepig or just roleplaying
Anonymous No.530063339
this nigga gonna get blessing of agora to lvl 7 before he gets enough scrolls to max those 2 skills
Anonymous No.530063394 >>530063548 >>530063670
>>530063124
I pulled 10 Berks and 6 Iarumas. I'll let you decide.
Anonymous No.530063548
>>530063394
That's F2P in my books
Anonymous No.530063670
>>530063394
I'm so sorry, bro...
Anonymous No.530064229 >>530081727
Ninjers cave is gonna get me within one more book of my goal so I'm not sweating it.
Anonymous No.530064550 >>530064640 >>530070003
i got two heat haze drops in like 20 minutes they musta boofed rates
Anonymous No.530064640 >>530065142
>>530064550
I got 1 2x drop in 2 hours
Anonymous No.530064661
>>530059993
O, blessing of Agora...
Anonymous No.530065142
>>530064640
i just got a third its hot drop time
Anonymous No.530068123
I think my game is bugged. My ninja is not learning anything after 30.
Anonymous No.530069054
that's because ninja doesn't have skills
Anonymous No.530069204
I'm sure there will be some cortu checks with mage trials therefore I'm leveling mage mask to 34 and will be using him specifically to spam cortu on wanderer
Anonymous No.530070003 >>530070261
>>530064550
>got one in my first run through of the first floor
Holy shit it's real. Just the motivation I needed to farm this cave.
Anonymous No.530070261 >>530075346 >>530075515
>>530070003
since that post I told myself 1 heat haze drop and I'll go to sleep
I'm still here
Anonymous No.530072767 >>530072897
>>530034601
It's less that knights are bad and more that fighters are so good. 3 fighter frontline is amazing. If you need the defensive utility, a backline knight can always do the job.
Anonymous No.530072897
>>530072767
Knight is also an amazing subclass. Recovery is REALLY GOOD.
Anonymous No.530073794
Knights won't be good until they get autotaunt
Anonymous No.530074865
>>530047262
All me
Anonymous No.530075346
>>530070261
the rates are the same he just got lucky
sometimes I'll get 6 in an hour sometimes I wont see any for 3 hours
Anonymous No.530075515
>>530070261
Finally free. It wasn't worth it, but my autism did feed sated
Anonymous No.530080248 >>530080695
If I had known those FAS were this bad to obtain I would have gotten them from the castle store, what a blunder. How is a man going to get such a fancy ring like yours...
Anonymous No.530080695
>>530080248
For as rare as FASs are, gear worth using them on is even rarer.
Anonymous No.530081530
>>530063124
Eh. I spend like 10$ early but the prices are just insulting. I still have plenty of chars from bones and rolls. All regular characters, all regular legendaries and Abenis and Livy from banner plus Collab chars. W Lana and Christmas flut skins. All chars are on level 0(most of them) or 1 of discipline. I am on garda, didn't get perfect ending or saved the duke from laziness.
Anonymous No.530081727 >>530082137
>>530064229
How strong and efficient is this?
Anonymous No.530082137 >>530087703
>>530081727
It hits for like 2k for 13 sp + some heavy acc/def debuffs.
Anonymous No.530082872 >>530084653
What are the best items to pick up from Caste shop?
Anonymous No.530084653
>>530082872
Generic exp tomes + FAS
Anonymous No.530084732
Do maps always reset when you use the wheel?
Anonymous No.530087703 >>530088085
>>530082137
That is good. Wait. Sp?
Anonymous No.530088085 >>530090675
>>530087703
MP*
Anonymous No.530088796 >>530091840
uhmmmmmmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn...

nyontent?
Anonymous No.530090675 >>530093776
>>530088085
2k and 13 sp for 4 or 6lv?
How much mag?
Anonymous No.530091840 >>530111130 >>530113104
>>530088796
I'm an old man who plays Wizardry, I don't know about zoomer memes.
Can you explain what the cat is about, son? It's annoying enough that I want to know.
Anonymous No.530093776
>>530090675
lvl4, about 400 mag
Anonymous No.530096252 >>530098379 >>530100849 >>530100849 >>530102018
MASKETTO MAN LET ME OUT, ITS BEEN 4 MONTHS AND IM STILL INSIDE THE FUARKING SHIP
Anonymous No.530098379
>>530096252
Hmmmmmm, nyo.
Anonymous No.530100849
>>530096252
>>530096252
Still haven't locked him up. Just switched his drugs with soup
Anonymous No.530102018
>>530096252
Even if it happened in a different time line, I will never forgive you for shanking me.
Anonymous No.530111089 >>530111203 >>530148792
>internet down for 3 days and counting
>phone is too old to run Wizardry
This sucks.
Anonymous No.530111130
>>530091840
I don't knyow.
Anonymous No.530111203
>>530111089
is it too old to usb tether to your computer?
Anonymous No.530113104
>>530091840
Pretty sure that's just the catgirl from princess connect
Anonymous No.530115234 >>530117880 >>530118454 >>530119869
Have any of you played Yumia? Is it any good?Trying to find something to do before the deluge of content in two weeks.
Anonymous No.530117880
>>530115234
>two more weeks
Anonymous No.530118328
>deluge of content
made me laugh, thanks anon
Anonymous No.530118454
>>530115234
You're better off playing the older Arland/Dusk/Mysterious games.
Yumia strays too far from the usual Atelier games and made the combat and alchemy too easy and braindead. Scenery is nice in Yumia and that's the best I can say about it. Open world is just your standard ubislop checklist ticking.
There's an Atelier thread on /vrpg/ that you can ask for more opinions.
Anonymous No.530119869 >>530120005
>>530115234
I've only heard bad things about it and now just from the people that are mad the MC isn't a little girl.
i've had it downloaded but haven't gotten around to playing it myself
Anonymous No.530120005
>>530119869
not just*
Anonymous No.530123707 >>530125584
Is there a complete idiot's n00b guide that is even more step-by-step and dumbed down than the ones in the OP?
Anonymous No.530125584 >>530128389
>>530123707
What are you having trouble with/understanding?
Anonymous No.530128389 >>530132046 >>530149236
>>530125584
I just want a retard's guide to never making any mistakes or missing anything in a dungeon, while also not having to deal with old school infinitely respawning enemies bullshit.
Anonymous No.530129495
I shall be slumbering. Toil away. PPPFFFFFFFTTTTT
Anonymous No.530130037
she's blowing raspberries from the cum bubbles I gave her in her sleep (she's seen the vision but too lazy to do anything about it)
Anonymous No.530130184 >>530137241 >>530137776
Does wheeling forward undo giving the item to Bonne/Clyde?
Anonymous No.530130234
how's the weather in Jakarta?
Anonymous No.530130338 >>530130696 >>530147430
Is this game really popular? I've gotten youtube ads for it.
Anonymous No.530130473
it's a niche game. It's popular for a select type of people. But nothing compared to the actual heavyweights
Anonymous No.530130696 >>530130741
>>530130338
It's the only blobber going, because the genre died thanks to zoomers having the attention span of a pajeet on a train track
Anonymous No.530130741 >>530130841
>>530130696
What's a blobber? A first person dungeon crawler?
Anonymous No.530130841
>>530130741
almost correct. It's the first person dungeon crawling genre with a party. Your guys move in a blob, or so I've heard
Anonymous No.530131207 >>530132046 >>530132195
How many areas have infinitely respawning enemies vs a fixed number that I can murder one by one and then explore at my leisure? (me leaving an area and coming back to find it repopulated doesn't count).
Anonymous No.530131821 >>530132098
who the fuck said bondmate farming is not that big of a boost and completely optional?
I just put sir jack on my Sheli and she gained 33 HP
that's a 10% increase
Anonymous No.530132046 >>530132215
>>530131207
>me leaving an area and coming back to find it repopulated doesn't count
if thats the criteria then 0
but most places have mobs that patrol a certain route and if you kill them. they're gone until you reenter the dungeon
>>530128389
if you miss something you will be able to wheel back later
don't start feeding characters inherits / discipline until you know what you're doing, you will figure it out by playing
no your entire team does not need to be limited/legendaries
most of the regular adventurers are similar in str and easier to discipline
Anonymous No.530132098 >>530132710
>>530131821
percentage increases aren't that important unless it hit breakpoints. 250 vs 280 is still getting fucked in 2 hits. Unless you're tanking a hit that's specifically about 270 hp
Anonymous No.530132195
>>530131207
Most of the areas should be like that.
There's speculation that when your characters are dirty enemies will spawn, but in my experience you can also just safely murder an area and then run ahead not encountering anything else.
Anonymous No.530132215 >>530132619 >>530132860 >>530137491
>>530132046
I could swear there was a mention of one specific dungeon with infinitely respawning enemies.
Anonymous No.530132619
>>530132215
some spots have a ton of enemies, I haven't counted but i know the underwater sections have a lot of ishmen and the dark guarda basement mobs are more than i'd just stay to fight
main dungeon routes don't though
Anonymous No.530132710
>>530132098
it's not just HP, it's everything bondmates give
if they all give 10% in any given stat that's a 5x10=50% increase in party power if every member has maxed bondmates
even if all of them aren't that useful it still comes out to about 20-25% which is huge
Anonymous No.530132860 >>530133412
>>530132215
I heard anons said the underwater section in port town does have respawning enemies. Never seen it though, since I don't like those areas enough to stick around for too long. Pretty scummy design if so because it targets the one sane thing you're supposed to do which is clear out enemies to avoid fighting them underwater
Anonymous No.530133412 >>530133702
>>530132860
Ahh that sounds familiar, that might be it.
Is there a place with top down maps of all the areas, or better yet, a redditor-level guide for everything?
Anonymous No.530133702
>>530133412
use the fasterthoughts wiki linked in OP
Anonymous No.530135109 >>530135905
I just finished the remake of Wiz 1 and while I enjoyed it at first the grind toward the end sucked my soul out.
Anonymous No.530135905
>>530135109
I started this game because I wanted the grind from the remake to continue
Anonymous No.530137241
>>530130184
Giving Bonnie or Clyde an item (chainmail, cutlass, Battle Item Set, or Chamomile) unlocks the respective node in their Arena fight, but encouraging them/never meeting them won't unlock their nodes until you kill Reprobus.
Anonymous No.530137491
>>530132215
I think the Minotaur Request from the Head Chef does unlock infinite Minotaur spawns on the ship until you turn it in.
Anonymous No.530137776
>>530130184
only if you wheel to fight 2
you have to wheel to reprobus fight and beat him to carry over your bonnie and clyde decisions
Anonymous No.530137992 >>530145840
Anonymous No.530143268
do you think Sheli cleans her broom or does she just let her ass sweat accumulate?
Anonymous No.530145840
>>530137992
ainiggi sex
Anonymous No.530147430
>>530130338
>I've gotten youtube ads for it
It's happening
Anonymous No.530147537
one of these days we'll get content. . .
Anonymous No.530148282
Anonymous No.530148792
>>530111089
Nigga. You can use phone internet to connect your pc to the net. As other anon said just use tethering mode.
Anonymous No.530149236
>>530128389
Considering that plenty of time you are scripted to lose then no. You will do the same dungeon many times over by design and you will like it. Honestly outside of blowing dupes or skil book you really can't fuck story - ,you will do it right eventually
Anonymous No.530151038 >>530151178
I'm gonna true end Guarda today wish me luck
Anonymous No.530151178 >>530151668
>>530151038
Good luck, hoping you don't get roar spammed or pummeled first turn
Anonymous No.530151315 >>530151380
i will do true guarda next time i have no content
now i have great content - leveling wanderer and farming ninjer gear
very fun NOT!
Anonymous No.530151380
>>530151315
dont forget to level your mage!
Anonymous No.530151608 >>530152026 >>530152191
Is there a chart or something for when to use class change books and when it's a terrible, terrible mistake that I will lay awake at night kicking myself over for decades?
Anonymous No.530151668 >>530152719
>>530151178
Thanks. Is Dissipation still required for the fight?
I was leveling my Knight class the other day. Do you still need Knight's Defense as well?
Anonymous No.530152026
>>530151608
just take your unit to 60 and then class change
but realistically you need to do your homework to find the last universal passive/skill before you switch. Many later level skills are class specific that will not carry over to the swapped class. Then you also need to consider if you want to round trip back or stay on the new class
Anonymous No.530152191
>>530151608
Anonymous No.530152719
>>530151668
you don't really need dissipation, but it's nice if the boss decides to self-buff on the first or second turn, cuz it turns it into a debuff
for knight's defense, I'd say it's necessary for consistency's sake if you get pummeled in phase 1 and for the roar spam in phase 3, again, not necessary, but I'd consider it more useful than dissipation at least especially if you don't have the mandated 150+/90+ front/back EVA
Anonymous No.530152778
35 is a good stopping point for non-casters, but leveling you're waifus and broskis is really easy and fast with exp dispatches, just send them away for a week to max their base classes. I'm not talking about Rinne the bitch elf and Kiriha the nigger pirate of course.
Anonymous No.530154647 >>530155117 >>530155221
>you need to do ninja cave multiple times to finish the request
When will we stop being such jobbers? Maybe Lulu is right
Anonymous No.530155117
>>530154647
She has always been right.
Anonymous No.530155221
>>530154647
MC's brain rotted with his body.
Anonymous No.530157117
AAAAAA REVEAL THE SAMURAI ALREADY
Anonymous No.530157667
reveal yourself ~~
Anonymous No.530160770 >>530167552
I started a month ago and I have 18k gems I wanna rooooooooooooooollllll
Anonymous No.530161151 >>530162667
I can't believe this... I was so afraid after my sorry excuse of a fighter party was struggling with the common mobs. I found the vamp, got initiative on him, then Gerulf stunned him twice with his mace... he cast KALTU while stunned and never got a hit in... I felt like lady luck was smiling at me.
Anonymous No.530162667 >>530164284 >>530164624 >>530165161
>>530161151
Then I find Benjamin and he starts poking me full of holes with 700 hits; Livana and Gerulf go down as soon as they go up but he somehow only hits (me) the one time i defend because i ran out of SP or items. Advanced trial done with 3 undergeared fighters with 70, 47 and 90 EVA. Just be lucky lads. Luck and guts.
Anonymous No.530164284 >>530164624
>>530162667
That fucker has to eat 6 FPS to go down with sur crits sprinkled along the way, and he always gets a kill before dying
Anonymous No.530164624 >>530164736
>>530162667
>>530164284
use openings gwos
Anonymous No.530164736 >>530164943
>>530164624
By turn 3 he's already hitting for 400, i can't be farming for openings bwo
I already cleared advanced so fuck that place forever
Anonymous No.530164943
>>530164736
using defend halves incoming damage so you can survive 1 hit if you defend, that's a free opening
Anonymous No.530165161 >>530165350
>>530162667
He is easy to stun even by 1 tier stun bash
Anonymous No.530165350 >>530165484 >>530167195 >>530167516
>>530165161
but I dismissed all of my Alexes for tags... I thought his inherit was a brick...
Anonymous No.530165484
>>530165350
>Dismissing for tags
BRICKED
Anonymous No.530167195
>>530165350
>He's not abusing stun strike lvl 5 with mace of tumult
Anonymous No.530167282
Still no fairy adventures... this is fucking bullshit!
Anonymous No.530167516
>>530165350
>I dismissed all of my Alexes for tags
I don't know who told you to do that but he's not your friend
Anonymous No.530167552
>>530160770
Same, sitting on 21k gems and 18 adventurer bones waiting for the named sam to be added to the pool
Anonymous No.530167810
With the new drecom approach to jew with the mariannecoins, we have a solid chance of new named sam to be added to the ossuary at least.
Anonymous No.530169089
albano samurai confirmed
Anonymous No.530169541 >>530170020 >>530170140 >>530171006 >>530183850
goblin slayer collab when
all the dogshit gacha games get one but the 1 where it would actually fit? never
Anonymous No.530169934
never, because of how the gacha works. a goblin slayer collab would mean they got wiped out by goblins and the girls had all of their holes filled with goblin sperm before dying.
Anonymous No.530170020 >>530170108
>>530169541
God i wish for a collab with DRIFTERS, but that is never is going to happen.
>You want bishop class?
>Here's Jesus christ
>Have fun
Anonymous No.530170108 >>530170198
>>530170020
>12m exp btw
Anonymous No.530170140
>>530169541
we probably will at some point if it gets more anime or another LN or something
hes the same guy doing the wizardry LN
Anonymous No.530170198
>>530170108
That's a small price to pay, raise it to 24m
Anonymous No.530170486
Gayniggers from Outer Space collab when?
Anonymous No.530171006 >>530203028
>>530169541
It's likely our next collab
NFT Wizardry game had only Blade&Bastard(+rerun) and Goblin Slayer collabs and it's published by Drecom too
Anonymous No.530171383 >>530171945 >>530171945
>spend a lot of time in Guarda
>fuck up going to the Inn/Guild when in the capital
>spend a lot of time in the Capital
>fuck up going to Inn/Guild in Guarda
I HATE IT.
Anonymous No.530171945
>>530171383
>>530171383
HE HATES IT
Anonymous No.530172964 >>530173298
now that we have abyss gold buff is guarda better than sand ni*ger cave?
Anonymous No.530173058
i dont need gold because i can't fucking get any good equipment
Anonymous No.530173298
>>530172964
Gold is easy to get by so it's not like the blessing changes anything
Anonymous No.530173808
Masketta Man if he real...
Anonymous No.530174480 >>530176798 >>530180131
>finally get enough copies to +20 my sword
>hype for the last line
>its fucking mag%
Anonymous No.530174983
i have zero gold after resurrecting ninja'd characters and leveling the fighter ring
Anonymous No.530176358
you should worship Lulunarde's feet
Anonymous No.530176786
You should worship Lulunarde's butthole
Anonymous No.530176798 >>530177272
>>530174480
>+20ing a piece with only one 1.5 good stats in the first place
you had it coming
Anonymous No.530177272
>>530176798
2 good stats are enough because you want double surety anyway
Anonymous No.530178367
What is the implication of someone requesting you to hunt down a doll that's sitting on Cyclops underwear in a small dark room and rewarding you with tags for it.
Anonymous No.530179573 >>530180195 >>530180854 >>530182056 >>530183752
>randomly added new hobgoblins to the beginning abyss

for what purpose.
Anonymous No.530180131
>>530174480
This has happened every time I've +20 something so I've given up on doing it to any item that doesn't still have the alter option available.
Anonymous No.530180195
>>530179573
trust the plan
huge content nuke tomorrow
Anonymous No.530180663 >>530183371 >>530185252 >>530187407
How difficult is the 3rd abyss Warped One with no corruption? I am in my last faction to get the guiding luck light, so I would like to try it. Or am I just going to get slaughtered? My plan is Knight Lana, MC (Fighter), Abe in the front. Back is Gerulf (w/ spear), Alice, and Yeka (priest). Lana will be mostly for items and Knight Defense. Alice for badios scrolls and Makaultu (lvl 3) and Yeka for healing and scrolls as well. Fighters will be using FPS.
Anonymous No.530180854 >>530181309
>>530179573
but they look the same as the other hobgoblins
Anonymous No.530181309
>>530180854
Do you not see his "ELITE" name tag?
Anonymous No.530182056
>>530179573
they've been working hard for months, they deserved a promotion
Anonymous No.530182095
ZAMN
She's 937?!
Anonymous No.530183371
>>530180663
if you hit all the flags you can just use the wheel to set 0 corruption w/e you want to try it
Anonymous No.530183752 >>530191303
>>530179573
Goblin Slayer Daikatana collab next week
TRUST the plan.
That manga is very heavily inspired by Wizardry, would fit even better than GS as collab material
Anonymous No.530183850 >>530184758
>>530169541
What would Goblin Slayer's unique skills even be? Some sort of water type tzalik based on him opening a gate from the bottom of an ocean to the front of an enemy plus some sort of buff?
Anonymous No.530184008 >>530185252
if equipment only drops to 4 stars how do I have a few 4-6 surety stones in my inventory (that I used and all rolled 4)
Anonymous No.530184758
>>530183850
bonus damage against demi-humans (goblins)
unique skill could be something kino like increased loot, he is known to steal all the shit goblins use after all
Anonymous No.530185252
>>530180663
Might help to have dissipation on MC as well and maybe a bow or two to hit the weak spot with something other than scrolls. Search "γƒœγƒ«γƒ€γ‚ͺン" on youtube if you want to see some Jap videos on attempts. Bring lots of nourishing draughts.

>>530184008
You have a small chance to get the next star rank of stone.
Anonymous No.530186635 >>530199194
Can anyone link me to a Arboris guide or something. I need to be spoonfed, I am too bad at this. What kinda gear and stats should I be going for
Anonymous No.530187129
>Dispatch details have been updated.
Anonymous No.530187407
>>530180663
It's RNG fest at 1st phase as he can either roar spam, which swaps positions and fucks FPS dmg output, or pummel spam, which in most cases kills someone. EVA barely helps here, you need 500hp on all, madios lvl 3 on healers and if I remember get 80SPD on all, with knight slowest, also give it SP bondmate, you'll be spamming that defense. Bring 10 SP pots min, and couple mana ones too.
Obviously, kill the tentacles as fast as possible, the new dissipation skill to dispel power up helps so no need to bring a ninja, makaltu (preferably lvl 3) backrow (and front) as golem/ballista throw can kill casters.
Deep Breath is charged roar with stun, so guard.
Once he drops 1st time (2nd phase),FPS the shit out of him and chug pots with casters. Try using porto too.
When he starts gathering power, knight defense all the time and pray you dealt a ton of dmg during 2nd phase so he might lose turns trying to close the door. If I remember, he also roars at thresholds so be wary of that too.
You can try fighting him to check his dmg output while abusing forced recovery once a day, so you don't get stuck on the floor and continue doing regular stuff.
Anonymous No.530187439
Rinner already has 5873390 exp, only 4713128 left...
>dispatch bonus ended
FUCK
Anonymous No.530187807 >>530188112 >>530188116
I was away for long enough that I don't remember how to do the minigame and killed myself attempting it, and the little reminder popup didn't help because it said "orange" and i didn't see any "orange."
On a related note do those resist death flames regenerate daily? Or over time?
Anonymous No.530188112
>>530187807
Every 2 hours
Anonymous No.530188116
>>530187807
2h/1 flame
Anonymous No.530188961
Anonymous No.530189661
Anonymous No.530189864 >>530190585
>boulders randomly become non-reversible again
Thanks John Drecom.
Anonymous No.530190528 >>530192853 >>530193701
Anonymous No.530190576 >>530191336 >>530196767
I'm just not going to class change Marianne, hahahaha! I just won't do it, that's all!
Anonymous No.530190585
>>530189864
those are specifically one sided. Why? I have no idea
Anonymous No.530191303
>>530183752
If referencing Murmer, Chant, Pray, Invoke is all it takes, then the another eden collab must be right around the corner.
Anonymous No.530191336
>>530190576
your loss
Anonymous No.530191674 >>530195624
I haven't class changed anyone outside of the MC
Anonymous No.530192853 >>530193701
>>530190528
I can't read any of this
Anonymous No.530193032 >>530193268 >>530193706
So wait, if I open a chest and my inventory is full, I can't just use a medicinal herb from that menu? I HAVE to discard something?
Anonymous No.530193268
>>530193032
At least you can set it up to easily dump your inventory into the bank in town now, you used to have to manually move everything one at a time.
Anonymous No.530193701
>>530190528
>>530192853
Lulu:you've been only doing steel and copper grade exams recently
why?
mask:I'm focusing on steel grade mainly, but I'm doing copper for bondmates
do you get it now?
Lulu:don't lie to me you boob-lover!
>>530193032
Yes. You rike it?
>>530193706
Why can't I just scarf something down on the spot?
In fact, why am i bothering with all this bullshit when I can just smash a merchant's wares, then generously offer to buy it for a pittance (or just wait until he gives up on it and take it once it's 'trash") then repair it using my right hand and live like a king?
>>530191674
based and ratio pilled
I wonder what she says if you pick the top option. I chose the bottom just to fuck with her, but then she said 'same to you' and I remembered oh yeah....
I can't wait until all the non-sheli and non-tzaalik havers start complaining about the 10k HP advanced mage trial final boss
My Marianne does over 500 damage with her lvl1 spells
cute, she'll only need 20 turns LMAOOOOO
>sheli
inb4 the dungeon theme is hitting elemental weaknesses
So I can't hit escape to bring up a menu? Can I make this not fullscreen or use Japanese voices or something? Or speed up the rate at which text appears?
Why can I not restore people and then instantly shank them if they're male, and instantly put them into indentured servitude if not? I just let them walk out?
>>530190576
Based
So I can just auto allocate all my points right? That won't cause me massive regret later?
>>530197308
it will. Don't be a retard
>>530197308
put them in either str or spd
or luck if you truly believe
>>530197394
Fuck. So can I at least be somewhat lazy and put every single point into dex for my thief?
>>530197456
dex does almost nothing for thieves.
>>530197545
*Throws out all his old D&D rulebooks*
>>530197456
>>530197308
you can put SPD on EVERY class and not regret it later
>>530197308
>>530197456
Check the following
Dex is useful to help with the chest minigame but besides that it doesn't really do anything big
>>530197628
>Main stat for thieves
>INT
>Main stat for mages
>SPD
Enjoy
dont be retarded DEX is really good, it increases your crit with daggers
>>530197736
it boosts surety, right?
>>530197736
>>530197679
>>530197545
To start a Thief or Mage in Wizardry Variants: Daphne, focus on specific stats during character creation. For a Thief, prioritize Dexterity (DEX) and Luck, as these influence their skills like disarming traps and their overall evasion. For a Mage, prioritize Intelligence (IQ) as it directly impacts their spellcasting power and magic-based damage, according to a Steam Community guide. Additionally, ensure both classes have sufficient Speed (SPD) to act before enemies, especially in early levels.
Starting as a Thief:
Dexterity (DEX):
This is the most important stat for a Thief, as it directly affects their accuracy, their ability to disarm traps, and their overall physical prowess.
Luck:
While not as crucial as Dexterity, Luck can still be beneficial, affecting skills like pickpocketing and critical hit rates.
Speed (SPD):
A high speed stat is important for all classes, but especially crucial for Thieves as it allows them to act first in combat, potentially disarming traps or dealing a preemptive strike.
Starting as a Mage:
Intelligence (IQ):
Intelligence is the primary stat for Mages, dictating their magical power and the effectiveness of their spells.
>>530197891
Thanks chatgpt
>>530197891
Speed (SPD):
Similar to Thieves, Mages benefit greatly from high speed, allowing them to cast spells before enemies can retaliate.
Vitality (VIT) and Luck:
While not as crucial as IQ, VIT can increase your health and defense, and Luck can improve your chances of landing spells or avoiding enemy attacks.
General Tips:
Discipline:
Discipline is a unique stat in Wizardry Variants: Daphne that can be increased by using duplicate characters. It boosts all stats, so consider using duplicates of your main character to enhance their abilities.
Avoid Min-Maxing Base Stats:
While it might seem tempting to focus on one stat, it's generally recommended to have a well-rounded character, especially in the early game.
Prioritize Speed:
Aim for a Speed stat of at least 16 for all characters to avoid being overwhelmed by early-game enemies like the Vorpal Bunnies, which can one-shot characters with a first strike.
Consider Team Composition:
Think about how your Thief or Mage will fit into your overall party composition. For example, a Thief can be an effective evasion tank, while a Mage can provide powerful area-of-effect damage.
>>530197891
>While not as crucial as Dexterity, Luck can still be beneficial, affecting skills like pickpocketing and critical hit rates.
Grok accidentally spoils lvl 70 thief skills.
>>530197875
only with daggers that have "nimble strike"
>pickpocketing
kek
>>530197873
Isn't it only by a tiny amount? I have a DEX boon'd Drigger and he doesn't crit for shit, mainly because he's wearing a bunch of crap for Detect/Disarm purposes that has no SUR, but also if DEX does anything it's not noticeable to me.
>>530197814
I choose to believe this above all else.
>>530197814
so mages want ASPD more than MAG?
>>530186635
Thieves want evasion, attack, and surety.
Use Precision strike for regular mobs, his special attack for tougher enemies or old reliable sneak attack for enemies resistant to the element of his special.
>>530198158
>Bosses will have special loot that can only be stolen
We final fantasy now
>Fighters and knights and anyone you use counter+FuA on
Luck
>spellcasters
Spd
>Thieves
idk
>>530197308
Why I feel the best character class for the MC is Thief:
1. MC can get higher in any stat than any other character if you stack up Well of the Mind bonuses. This means MC will be good at anything you decide to do, but things start getting real silly if you pump up Evasion as a Thief. Physical attacks just stop hitting you once you get high enough.
2. DIsarming traps costs 1 Vitality for a Thief every time they fail. This can lead to the Thief running out of Vitality long before the rest of the party. The MC does not have Vitality, and so instead you only get 2 attempts on a trap instead of 3. I find this to be an acceptable tradeoff.
3. As a Thief with super high evasion, MC can solo some content that otherwise would require a full party. See my video where I took down Gessi as an example of this. Also, since MC has no vitality, there is zero penalty for dying if MC is doing things solo. Makes it a lot easier to do things like map out the floors of the Old Castle Ruins if you don't have to worry about penalties for a wipe.
4. MC hits very, very hard with critical hits as a Thief if you've got the stat bonuses from spending time as a Fighter.
>>530199184
Due to softcaps and the existence of FPS, mages in most cases are debuff bots, and you want your enemies to be debuffed before their or your fighters turn.
Also, it's much easier to get MAG on gear than SPD.
There is exceptions like tzalikman and firetits.
>>530199184
The additional speed will be more useful early on before you start gear maxing, since the values on ASPD are relatively low compared to other stats, MAG is good but the amount you get from your stats is a lot lower proportionally compared to how much you get from gear.
>>530199278
>fighters
>FuA
you're spamming FPS not basic attacks
go for good ol' STR
>>530199194
Thieves want IQ, and then to be swapped for literally any other class on hard fights.
>>530199814
that's why you use thief MC
>die while farming due to a bunny ambush
>low fort party
>accidentally click accept death, despite having 4 flames
>panic
>alt f4
>relaunch game
>I can choose rise again
thank you drecom now I can continue my brainless farming
>>530199437
Evasion is already on it's last legs, and MC has a hidden Fort meter, and it decreases on trap fails just like anybody else.
Also the very hard crit hits you can get as thief, you get much more damage from just spamming FPS.
>>530200365
>and MC has a hidden Fort meter, and it decreases on trap fails just like anybody else.
w-what happens if MC is low Fort?
Sometimes I use Debra (knight) to open chests.
>>530200472
He will start getting traphobia on every fail
>>530199693
~10 str isnt gonna do much I think. And its not like youre spamming fps while farming. Half the time youre gonna waste the cast and also run out of gas in like 5 fights
>>530200365
Thieves just need better ways to level up their bread and butter skills.
The fact that basic skills exist that don’t have ways to inherit yet is a pretty big failure of design, and it’s not like they’re slowly introducing more and rare inherits didn’t really do much to help.
>>530200643
well 1-2% luck is gonna do even less
if you're farming hitting threshhold is more important and STR can help you with that
also STR increases your FuA and counter damage too
>>530200192
You can accept death but you arent actually bricked until you confirm a cursed wheel checkpoint
>>530200586
Its still better than other units since you dont have to deal with low fort rezzing or waiting for them to recover to fight
using a thief is a brick
it's like running 5 members instead of 6
real risk enjoyers run 4 fighters 1 priest and 1 mage
>>530201095
It has benefits, but it also has risks, as in stone traps.
Just get a milana to open chests while farming and swap out for bosses, and do the responsible thing of not greeding for chests on route to fight a boss.
>>530201469
your trapped chests gwo?
There’s no point in adventuring if you don’t try to open every chest.
Might as well go retire and become a farmer or something.
>>530201610
mage has higher detect than thief, just inherit detect skills/bondmates and don't suck at the disarm minigame
>>530200365
On it's last legs?
>evasion is not good against 1 optional boss
>EVASION IS ALREADY ON ITS LAST LEGS
gwos starting out with 9 IQ
So I have the choice to buy some old bones from this dude. I want to choose the wizard girl possessed by a skull but is it a dude's skull? Do they ever reveal that? I don't want to have to say "no homo" constantly.
>>530202429
that girl is used goods, she's Princess Pulgritte is grandgrandgrandgrandmother
>>530202672
there's no need to spoil anon that
>>530202429
pretty sure you can see which bone is which
>>530202378
Its the surety=brick talking point all over again
Yekaterina is a virgin! VIRGIN!
>>530171006
>the NFT slop game gets CONTENT before we do
What teh fuck bros...
>>530202378
>1 optional boss
>Gamblers, Fighters Proving grounds, Morgus, True ending GWO 3, Ninja cave boss, Dragon from the hit series dragon cave, Old Castle
Anybody else i forgot?
>>530202429
Its more like a dog that she treats like a baby
>>530203067
But she's actually poseessed by it right?
>>530203067
God, I wish I was Doctor (Blanco)…
>>530203058
half of these are gimmick fights where more DEF wouldn't help you either
but even if you were right that's 7 (seven) encounters in which DEF is (not really) better
do you see the issue here?
>>530203267
No, Doctor is her good friend.
>>530203058
Whats wrong with fighter proving grounds? I was critting the shit out of the vampire. In fact it was only 2 fps users boosted by macaldia because I only had benis maxed
>>530203414
if you don't kill him after he gets to ~20% HP it will insta-kill one of your party memebers and completely restore its HP
>>530203267
Possessed as in the skull hangs around her all the time
The priest elf girl is actually possessed by a dude so then it gets gay
>>530203414
Anon the convo was about eva, not sur, and you can't evade the vamp bats mechanic.
>inb4 sheli inherit
>Agora the beta bitch
>possessing Alice
lol
>>530203731
you can't tank the bat mechanic either
>>530203731
If that triggers you lost anyway, it's all about high damage FPS spam to kill him first
I was dodging at least half the attacks from mobs AND vampire in advanced proving grounds and I don't even have 200 eva or whatever shit people can pump it to
>>530203545
>>530203731
How's that invalidating evasion? If anything its a damage check thats most easily done with fps. I was still dodging some hits, so it's still buying me extra turns even if not 100%
Also yea I got surety mixed up
>>530204253
it doesn't invalidate evasion, that guy is retarded, that was my entire point
Agora has no gender thoughdesu
>>530199437
A thief with a disarm discipline will have higher disarm than MC with enough discipline. I've been trying to catalogue how much each well of the mind node gives and it's not much. It's like +1 disarm per level after the first (first is +2). This madness here is only worth 9 disarm.

There is definitely something to be said for not having to BRING a thief, though. Especially for farm content.
>>530204463
Agora's gender is snack.
>>530204463
Meat toilets don’t need a gender after all.
Been out for a week and am catching up; did they seriously not add a second Master Fighter's Ring?
I feel like Alice would be a good mother
>>530202672
So the skull just magically kept her alive all this time?
>>530199693
>fps literally just adds +500 damage to the attack
>10 bp into str is +12 damage
ehhhhhh
waagmi
>>530204872
everyone you roll for is dead anon, that's the whole shtick of this game
>>530204872
all playable characters died a long time ago
>>530204253
Dodging the 50-150 damage phys hits sure did nothing since what kills you in one taps is the 500 zelos bolt or the bats.
Anyways, is not like
>EVASION IS BRICK SELL SELL SELL
Is about that evasion as a crutch is getting counters at every corner from new content and you shouldn't max it like there's no tomorrow or expect that it will keep carrying you.
>>530202378
>slowly making enemies MUCH more accurate with more content added
uhhhhhhh, at least Eva is still good when farming ig
>>530204747
People who already got it gets a smitten of gems instead. Newcuties get 1
I think it’s more of a core issue that comes from how Debuffs/buffs scale like shit, and the straight up additive calculation for player defense, coupled with stars being the sole determining factor for blessing potency, so for stats that aren’t on equipment by default are practically hitting their viable soft caps and have been for several months.
>>530205298
come out to the front and explain to the class how more DEF will help you against the vampire that hits for 2k+
please include an explanation about the fact, that even if you do by some miracle survive the bats, the vampire will completely restore its own HP making the whole debacle useless
>>530205858
>didn't even say anything about DEF
>starts schizoing on me about def
ok
>>530205148
It's a brick on characters who aren't good at evasion. Like if you're trying to make fucking Eckhart a dodge tank you're doing something terribly wrong.
>>530206063
so what's your alternative to EVA stacking if it's not DEF retard?
>>530205298
>EVA is still good during the thing you do 99% of the time that also precipitates making a DEF suit in the first place
waow
>>530206216
>atk, aspd, mag stacking to one-shot
>inheriting way of the knight(unsure), Adam passive, sheli inherit(good luck lol), sanctuary blessing for actual damage reduction
>people already doing the first
>whales doing both
>>530206507
>get ambushed once
>o spirit that defies death
>rise again
>>530206838
That reminds me i need to spend my barbaras to give everyone assault guard.
>>530206306
>another DEF schizo
>>530206838
if way of the knight and/or sanc blessing procs the enemies do like double digit to quite literally 0 damage to you
>>530206216
>so what's your alternative to EVA stacking if it's not DEF retard?
NTA but I just stack atk > then w/e I get between sur/aspd > acc
why would the first option you go to be def?
>>530206912
good for abyss 2 maybe lol
>>530207302
>if way of the knight and/or sanc blessing procs the enemies do like double digit to quite literally 0 damage to you
What game is bro playing
Anyway instakills will still clap you
>>530207907
>what game is bro playing
guess bro hasn't ever seen either of them proc before, in game or in video
>instakills
this is fair, but outside of ninja crits(which are extremely hard to evade anyways) the rest only need like 90-100 Eva since they appear in early Guarda latest anyways
>>530208351
>early guarda
>forgot about morgue area
if there's a necrocore in that area, nvm ig
>>530207907
No it's true. Those skills have some kind of damage reduction that's based on the initial hit before defense/resistance. It's actually crazy, you'll go from taking 250 damage to a big fat zero. They're honestly completely busted.
>>530206507
But you can already do all of these things and have room for EVA. I've just been blowing through the gimmick fights in my EVA suits that way, and then going back to autofarming and being untouchable.
The next Lana I pull I inherit on my main
it is the best inherit
>>530208920
That sweet, sweet 6 HP heal.
>>530208920
I dunno man, i'd just keep pumping lana til it's maxed on her. 85 hp is a lot of hp.
>>530208630
>you can already do all of these things and have room for EVA
I don't doubt this, cuz this is true for me too, but the grind to get stuff like this is sort of insane and most players will not grind or should not have to either
>>530197308
Speed is your safest bet.
Luck for knights and fighters is nice.
>>530209246
it is better than nothing
>>530209562
The insane grind is really just stuff like Covert and Kunai, now that Fordraig is perm getting some good substats on steel-tier while maintaining around 150 EVA isn't too hard as long as you stick to cloth gear. Hence the only actual choice being between EVA and DEF, where you would have to opt for heavy gear and lose the natural EVA on shoes and such.
>>530210810
look, even if you, I, or anyone else grinds ship2/fordraig for the efficiency for good gear, you're still looking at an hour+ everyday of grinding just because of how awful the rates and rng are. You can unironically go 3 hours of grinding without hitting a "good" piece with (I'll just say a baseline) of 4 star blue with 2 desirable subs. If you don't have autism, or dont respect your own time, you will NOT do this.
>insane grind is covert
yes this is true, but this is basically just a purely insane autism grind that's only """necessary""" for ninja users. Again, many players won't do this, and I haven't either because it's too much
>Masketto, please clean Chloe, she's turning blue. No, I won't pay for it.
>>530212051
>bro didn't even go into refinement rng
>four star item can hit +3-10 on breakpoint
grim
>EXPLODE
>casts water spell

Is Flut retarded?
>>530216361
Sir, Flut is a genius.
>>530216361
>fill balloon with water
>it explodes
???
>>530205081
>>530205027
Wait so even in death she's still possessed by the skull?
>>530220736
No, she died, you revive her and she also brings her weird dog along for the ride.
>>530216361
Maybe her opponent had a really lucky gacha pull
>>530220736
Pretty sure Doctor can't really die since it's a skull and all
If I remember right according to her story when she found Doctor it looked like a normal skull before she started talking to it
>>529973139
True that. Never been a spender but rushed through guarda in a 4days to buy all 3
>>530017898
Savia anything is content. Get me off knigger
Just getting back to the game:
Where do I dump bonus points for Gerulf and Aldric? (and why)
>>530223043
Gerulf all in str.
Id say it depends the boon on aldric, but str speed. For damage

Dex iq for chesting
>>530223429
Aight thanks. What about Kiriha (or ninjas in general)? What the fuck do ninjas do TLDR?
>>530225190
Damage dealers with high evasion and a dispel
>>530228640
hehe ghost poop
O spirit who defies death...
Rise again...
>>530236171
>Accept Death
New week, new hopes for content!
>>530238775
No, we're on a diet.
>>530238775
No content until at least next week
>>530225190
If they're highly optimised, massive damage on regular attacks.
If they're not highly optimised... relatively little.

Ninjas are good for exploration and long maps because they don't really need SP to do their thing. That's where they really shine.
But for fighting a boss a fighter spamming FPS is always going to be more efficient than a ninja.
Lana content?
>>530225190
Requires stupid levels of investment for huge damage at low sp or even no sp cost due to how the damage formula work.
Also has a bunch of bonus evasion and concealment which further buffs evasion so they can't be hit if fully built.
Can be placed at the back or in the front though backline ninjas need a pair of the much rarer kunai compared to frontline ninja's dual daggers.
>>530244343
It's either her or Alice right?
how well does armor pierce scale?
I'm going to cap ninja this week and I have like 10 kiriha
>>530248729
Armor Pierce Lv 3 feels pretty close to Heavy Attack Lv 3.
It feels strange hearing new voiced dialog after so long.
What's the quickest way to get this?
>>530258749
IIRC from scratch, get them level 20+, do the first exam, drag them through the first GWO (don't let them die), then the second GWO, then make a party that matches their alignment, fail to open a chest in B7F, run to the fountain and pick the right answer from whoever wants to chat over and over a few times until you get the womb tattoo
You might get it before the fountain step
>>530258749
And if you're doing it for Bondmates don't forget to slap two Level 5 Bondmates on them before you dismiss them
does b2f and b3f drop more shinobi junk?
One of these is not like the others.
>>530263072
Left most is a dwarf.
How do i check if my benjamin has any boons?
>>530263950
That's a crow, anon.
>>530263970
Apparently benjamin has a dex boon and my sheli is gigabricked
She is a 90 fort 5 BP sheli with probably a fucking DEX boon, by comparing her to other people's shelis
People with a speed boon have around 65 SPD on her why is mine so bad?
Its not fair gwos...
>>530265904
Meh, stats can mostly be made up with item grinding.
Getting max performance is a whale only thing as with all gacha.
>evil
>elf
what the fuck is wrong with them knife-ears?
>>530269140
Good morning ya filthy milk drinkers
>Chloe is the only Good beastfolk
>3 pieces of junk that can drop 4* shinobi stuff
Yeah the new cave is amazing
>>530271365
you make it seem like a 10% drop rate but for me it's like 2%
>>530271798
those can only drop 3* blues
>>530271798
i think he was being sarcastic, he got 3 fey junk total lmao
I don't understand why John Drecom is so greedy with ninja gear. They are not even that good.
>>530272412
>takes longer to level up
>takes longer to gear up
Simple as.
>>530272617
but why
ningers arent even that good
>>530272730
for savoring
>>530272730
Ninjas are an "advanced class" in traditional Wizardry and thus require more work to be put into them. Is this traditional Wizardry? No but that ain't stopping John Drecom from giving us the downsides without the upsides.
I desperately need gold
I have like 2 armors 3 rings and 5 armors I want to enhance but 0 gold
onegai help where do I go
>>530272981
At least you have the option to put dual daggers on them.
Samurais might be fucked and forced to hotswap weapons if you can't get a good katana for them. Or John Drecom can go further beyond and make them scale off both ATK and MAG at the same time for their attacks which fucks samurais over if they don't have a Katana.
>>530273329
just roll for the katana on the upcoming samurai banner gaijin-kun :^)
>>530273125
Fordraig, sell all gear you find
>Samurai releases
>they use spears and bows, not katanas
are you ready to...?
dwarf samurai (real this time)
>your dark elf waifu?
CUT!
>>530275021
But when can I unzip MY katana?
>>530275021
>Armored sam
Good shit, I always hated the bath-rope sam trope(unless it's female Sam, those tiddies can hang bare).
I hope that all the niggas who killed their companions to become a sub-human will be cucked out of the honorabu samurai class change
>>530275264
that's a man
as cool as that is, I hope they ad a cute generic sam girl then. Armored samgirl would be kino
>>530275718
The other one will be a female beast samurai.
why does x2 the smaller pack costs 2x7.69=$15.38 61 cents cheaper than the bigger pack?
>dwarf samurai
Crashing game revenue...WITH NO SURVIVORS!
>Crashing game revenue
Broski, 99% of revenue comes from that dwarf loving jap...
>>530276006
am I really forced to spend 8 bucks if I get an alice/lana class change book or be bricked forever?
I only have 2k jims left after Rinne the useless elf.
Dwarf samurai-dono... I'm sorry, please be generous...
>>530276445
why would you pull for a brick, I think even Kiriha is better than Brickne
>>530276721
Because she's an evil Armenian elf?
>>530276886
Fair enough. I could not get over her grandma smoker voice.
>>530277220
that's the best part
>>530275264
UGH I HAVE TO PUT A MALE IN MY PARTY?!
>>530275264
>male
S-KKKKKKKKKKKKKKIPPPPPPPP
Masketta Ghul - fighter with ninja training (he killed Elf-Pri)
Iarumas - mage of the big black rod (he is neutral)
Rinne - ninja or class change, (she's from Caucasus).
Kiriha - ninja or class change, (the one-eyed snake)
Dwarf samurai - small hands lol
Generic samurai - beastfolk (male)
Are you ready for the weeb party?
>>530278049
>beastfolk (male)
Shut your whore mouth.
fps damage tier Iai skill coming soon
>>530278254
Evasion was last next FPS gets the chopping block. Get ready for every class except fighter to get a stronger nuke. Samurai will have a busted Iai based on surety as a portent of things to come. Then it'll get nerfed by having evey enemy have 10000 surety defense.
>>530275264
that looks just like aldric wtf
>>530275264
Looks like sparking Rinne was the correct decision, I'm still safe for Fairy.
>>530279572
arr rook same
maybe dwarf-dono is generic...
>get samurai
>still no content to use it nor ninja on
pyosg
>>530280325
have you already done 0 corruption gwo and morgus?
>>530280352
um... OTHER content
>>530275264
>>530275021
Looks cool but please tell me there is another one
>>530258749
Kill octo
Kill helmut
Get 30+ (as in do the uncap to 40)
Farm camps and back to town for tavern talks
Make your party match, good/neut/evil


I can skip the town/cavern shit for generoc neutrals being neutral. Its a rough time for generals, ane even rougher if they dont match. So much camping
>>530265904
No iq or speed bond

Just overall meh mag gear.

Mines 93, 60speed. Neutral 7bp 480mag 90actionspeed 90eva
>>530275021
>>530275264

Its actually coming
>>530275264
Soooooo yeah not rolling for a man.
>>530275264
>>530280852
The first nina teaser had Kiriha so I'm guessing that's the generic samurai and the legendary one is a secret for now but still male
Ninja throws poison kunai at me
>Mask avoided a direct hit
>0 damage
feels good
>>530281440
If you hadn't told me about this I'd think that reveal switchup to be kino. But it's gay that they resued the trick
so we can all agree that the cave junks were shadow nerfed right?
>>530281440
>spoiler
Kek, I can see that happen
It's happening!
>Dorf SR sam
>Big titty dark elf SSR sam
All according to the mask
If samurai doesn't have katana dual wield or judgement cut end, i'm not pulling
It's already pain to farm ninja weapons, and drecom learned absolutely nothing.
>>530285302
they learned they can sell the weapons through the gacha :-)
>>530285302
Katanas already have better ATK and MAG than the 1-handed swords or 1-handed staff of the same tier so statwise they are designed to be wielded individually.
My ninya team is almost 60
>>530286552
funny how no one ever draws masketto's abyssal pussy chest parasite but then drecom also forgot about it since the only thing they do for the plot is copypaste the >new cave >job to dumb shit >wheel 3 times to clear it >flashback to lulu's feet loop
>>530286920
we need more lulu anus peek flashback
>>530288439
Oh, that's the golden bikini Amelia guy right ?
>>530288598
Yes.
>>530288439
She's finally useful
>>530221929
Did it never actually possess her? It's just a pet?
>>530291589
No, he's just a weird skeleton. He taught Yekaterina medicine and magic, and basically was her best friend through her entire life. The most offensive thing he probably did was watching Yeka and her husband having sex.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I0cYDr8OvZ0&t=1s&pp=2AEBkAIB
>>>>warnerbros
its so fucking over
>>530297618
>No animation to show
>WB
I have concerns
DAMN the B&B anime will look like THIS?!!
>>530298457
Kino
Warner Brothers are making japanimation now?
>>530298457
B&B anime is so fucked lmao
>>530280905
also, never let them die
Samurai Gerluf.
Trust the plan.
I want to rooooooooollllllllll….
Samurai Eckhart (his passive will not work with katanas)
sorry fairy bwos, im rolling samurai and i only have enough for 1 (ONE)
>male samurai adventurer
It's over.
>>530313375
Just use THAT and get both
So what is samurai's gimmick?
>>530314000
Magic knight.
Do you think we should have an event per month that is meaningful? Many gacha have a welfare character, so that would be nice once in a while.
man i can't wait to roll the new samurai, just a few weeks in the dispatch mines and they'll be ready to go for the next kill 300 insects pass!
>>530316767
Technically the game doesn't need welfare because general adventurers and catacombs exist
>Try out some mid +5 kunais on backline Brinne
>Same damage as my +15 daggers on her
fine, I'll go farm some more
>>530318709
where do you farm them i cant seem to get any
>>530319941
Just ninja cave. I think guarda has them too but it's a pain to farm. Super rare and there's a very high chance you get 1 star whites
so I just got the master ring
should I FAS it before altering and then enhancing? or do I not need to if it has good stats?
>>530317309
It's faster to level it manually gwo
imagine pulling shitty ninjas when you can pull for based samurais.
>>530318709
What grade were they ? I'm still on the fence about the phantom kunais I got from ninja cave, seems like a waste to invest in steel-tier weapons
>>530323280
fas immediately before enhancing, and then swap out the first def line with something else. FAS rerolls everything (doesn't work on the ring) and gives you the ability to alter the ring. It won't let you alter otherwise.
go for a 5-6 surety roll and then lock in
>>530324661
both ebinsteel and steel kunais can drop from ninja cave methinks
Can we wait a little bit more for samurai?
>Put 5lv mentor dwarf knight on my Elise
>Get 6 extra Vit and 2 extra hp
>>530325069
bwo your party has 5 slots
>>530325219
my marital training in the secret depths has only two slots
What's the best slayer passive to get for mc if I'm going that route
>>530325043
I mean what grade were the kunais you used, my bad
>>530325880
Maybe magical beasts or undead since these are quite common types
>try to look up morgus clears
>0 english clears
>try to look up japanese clears
>several japanese clears
>all of them are either V tubers or women or both
why are japanese girls better at this game than all of (You)?
>>530333806
English has clears though, I think someone from this thread did it with generics or something insane
>>530333806
I'm too busy ogling my girls.
>>530333806
You called?
I had a dream that Sheli got demoted and could get bought with the marianne coins...
what a nice dream
would you kiss Sheli on the face
>>530339937
Where else am I supposed to kiss her????
>>530340034
Her thighs, obviously.
>>530340034
butthole
>>530275264
What a crossover
Going by precedence, if the new legendary samurai is male, that means the non-legendary samurai fodder is going to be female, right?
>>530344025
Dwarf male armored Samurai legenday
Elf male bathrobe Samurai standard
>>530344025
its a pattern of one but yeah
Your new characters, sir.
Does drecom hate beastfolk?? Even dwarves have more adventurers than them atm
>>530345431
The other samurai will be a beast. Trust the 2week plan.
SHE is next
>>530344513
BACK TO DA PAST
>>530346424
Whomst?
So far I found 3 locations with SP potions and 3 with MP potions. They respawn, MP one on long cooldown
>>530347578
dm me the location
>>530275021
>>530275264
It's almost time...
to move onto coping for Big Titty Dark Elf Bishop instead.
>>530344025
Maybe, there's no guarantee they'll respect the precedent
>>530347910
Send. 2 each are well known. The other was surprise.
Just beat fighter test. Done it with 2 sixty levels fighters and one fifty level wander. Was easier than OG one.
wtf
new katanas have a lot more mpower than saber from event
>>530349646
>missing one sword style
but. . .why?
>>530348334
Where is this?
>>530349646
I was looking at one recently
I have a lot of regretted alters if samurai really does scale off atk + mag
atleast I'm only rolling if its beastfolk samurai I guess
it'd be pretty cool if samurai had like a magical blade qi/aura that added magic damage onto their attack skills
imo
>less auto friendly
par for the course with drecom
>>530349646
>luckshitted a pretty good purple saber
>it's already defunct before the samurai even gets here

Glad I only took it to +15.
>>530349943
>Samurais historically don't use shields
>Iarumas can't use shields
>Katanas likely class locked like kunais and ninja katanas
It would be pointless to add one sword style to a weapon type for a class that can't even use their off hand rather than just buffing their stats higher.
>>530350452
Pretty sure it's the first or second floor of port town
I thought those pots didn't respawn
Why does Lulu hate Pickrel? It feels like I missed something. He was in the intro and did nothing and appeared is helping us find a way to survive Shagtis.
>>530353959
No one likes kiddy diddlers, not even Lulu.
>>530352474
Not being able to use a shield as an additional stat stick is a detriment for 2H weapons as a whole however, and is definitely a small part of why 2H weapons are just so much worse than Swords and Daggers.
>>530353409
I checked and unless I'm dumb, the minimap doesn't match up
>>530355323
It's actually secret dungeon in port city that you can unlock after beating secret boss after octo
>shank a elf pri and throw his corpse in the water
>still good

Not even the Gods cares about knife ears.
>>530356973
>still good
For now.
>>530354860
Weapon balance is kind of shit. What even is point of 1,h axes?
>>530355323
Isn't the place this room at the top?
First floor
So do kunai count as 1h, ranged, or neither and only get a buff from the one ninja weapon node in well of the mind?
>>530361271
1h ranged weapons that ninjas can dual-wield
>>530286920
>job to dumb shit
how were you supposed to know about the bomb
The Masked Adventurer helps Bonnie and Clyde with preparations for the arena after killing them each individually.
All this was just so he can kill them both at the same time.
Albano was right about him.
>>530362605
>kill them both at the same time.
what? no!
wait
who can even use regular katanas now? Just neutralman?
>>530361960
I meant in context of the weapon attack buff passive nodes in well of the mind.

>>530363993
yes.
>>530364583
>I meant in context of the weapon attack buff passive nodes in well of the mind.
if you figure it out please share and save us some time, my guess would be ranged
but it could be none
Just a masked man and his dwarf bros.
Fought Gessi with the water up and didn't get a bondmate. Is there more to it? Can you not get it on first time through the abyss.
you need to give him an ore
which requires giving Melgina some ores
which requires mermaid statue knowledge
which means 2nd aboos run yes
>>530368512
The only dwarves I can identify from all the other arr rook same dwarves are Aldric and Red Beard...
>>530370391
>Red Beard
sorry champ, you only got 1/5
>>530370565
I mean generally, not in the image.
None of those dwarflets are clearly him.
>>530370737
Abenis is trying to soften the blow for when he reveals he's a boy.
>>530371294
you do understand the confusion though right?
you did capitalize it
Please give hints as to how to beat Our Heirlooms. I fought her the first time and lost soundly. About to reattempt the fight.
PLS HALEP
>>530371734
With skin that smooth and hair that fine? A bodyline that sensual?
A boy?
Would.
>>530373115
Step 0 get sedation scroll x3 on everyone and some divine punishments for mages/healers when oom
Step 1 clear the path
Step 2 backtrack to previous floor well
Step 3 throw a bunch of attempts. Its rng

Batilgred helps slow it down and lower its evasion. Pre using latumofis2 before combat can work but u use mana each attempt that way
>>530373369
Does increasing RES help with the Charm effects? I keep forgetting what RES does but I've already initiated the fight so I can't check the pause menu's Help page.
>>530373115
It's basically an RNGfest.
You want to have at least 2 chars that can cast madios and at least 2 chars that can cast cure spells, preferably more.
After that, it's just praying that the doll doesn't cast charm too often and when it does, it doesn't hit everyone.
The doll doesn't have much hp or damage potential so the greatest threat is charmed allies eating a turn and/or murdering allies.
You can also try upping res and grinding for charm res gear, but people here complain that it doesn't seem to work well. Might be placebo.
>>530374094
Thanks for the tip. Still in the middle of the fight and curing Charm/Confusion is a pain. I'm already out of curing items and now relying on 2 party members with Priest spells. We'll see how it goes.
>>530373115
back when I did it I had MC priest, knight, 2 fighters with knight passives, 1 priest, 1 thief
having scrolls on everyone and 4 people with the knight passive smoothed it out
>>530373635
yes but you don't specifically build for it since it's less rng but still rng. At best just prebuff with latumofis and use kinapic
DID IT~!
I beat Our Heirlooms. 2nd attempt went far smoother, partly thanks to diligently KINAPIC-ing my front row. The added RES does indeed help, the enemy's Charm attacks now only affects 1-2 people instead of 3-4 previously when I did not KINAPIC. My mages/priests did get dangerously close to oom near the end of the fight, shit was cutting it close tbqh.
If anyone else here has yet to beat Our Heirlooms, do try to use gear with RES and MDEF since the boss casts a bunch of damage spells; don't bother too much with DEF since her physical attacks are kinda weak.
Anyways, thanks again to anons above who replied to >>530373115.
>>530375208
Pre-latumofis is such a drain on MP though unless I bring along those potions that restore MP. But yeah, thanks.
To be honest, party buffs like KINAPIC, MASOLOTU and MACALDIA become so much stronger when you have Alice/Agora's Blessing. Non-Agora buffs are such weak shit vs bosses.
been farming ninjer cave for a few days. I hope I can luck into some 3-5 or 4-6 sur stones to slap on my fighter ring. I refuse to enhance if it's not at least +5
>>530379803
Its probably better to farm ship2 for a bunch of 4*s.
Just change their stats to shitty 1-2 surety/whatever u need and extract.

I got plenty of giga mag attack speed sur stones this way
>>530381851
But I'm also farming for ninjer gear and exp so this works yea. I'll probably go back to ship once I'm all done (I won't)
>>530381851
Actually, if you look at the rates, ship junk has ~3.6% chance to be 4*, while ninja cave junk is 7%.
Ninja junk also has ~30% chance of being ebonsteel tier, so ninja cave is preferable to farm as you can fish for equip upgrades while getting extraction fodder.
I do feel like ship gives more junk on average though.
that's because ship is littered with enemy encounters every 4 steps and they take half a hit to die
my word
>0 fey heat-haze
what the fuck is wrong with these devs
>>530389379
And what word would that be?
Mine is 'flibbertgibbet'.
>>530375394
What party and levels? Good job
>>530390769
those are rookie numbers
keep pumping if you wanna see fey junk
im at 700 sand shadow junk with only 4 heat haze fey junk
>>530393926
>And this is good because?
fr I wouldn't mind it being that rare but there's STILL shit diluting it like not guaranteed higher grade/quality and steel shit
>>530394839
no one said it's good it's just how it is gwo
CONTENT?
Samurai(stinky dwarf) banner
Daily missions that give katanas that will be the only ones you will ever get till EOS
Maybe ninja alt classes
Content. You rike?
>>530401236
too much content, disgusting
if drecom adds a clothing damage system while in battle i will forgive their jewery
>>530402858
Yes please.
>dwarf samurai
lmao laughed so fucking hard at the reveal video are they genuinely trying to kill the game or something
>>530405235
Looks like a regular human male to me
>>530403291
General adventurer will be a hime samurai with massive tatas
>>530390769
>fey heat haze
So, it actually exists
>almost a year in
>only released one legendary ninjer
>legendary shampoo will be the same
if you skip, you will miss!
no mage proving grounds?
>>530410401
>can ONLY use katanas
gearletgwos..........
>>530410401
>only katanas
>exquisite katanas in 4 star junk are like 1 in 1000000
uuuuuugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
>>530410581
i think thats more the icons to represent the samurai stances they mentioned
>>530410659
Just use purple bones bro
>>530410295
Not surprise it's later. It feels like they don't have enough manpower so I'm fully expecting events to be drip fed.
>roll for the samurai
>cant use him for 6 months because of exp requirement, tag requirement and gear requirement
Truly the 1000 folded japanese samurai experience...
>>530410401
>>530410581
I love stance dancing.
>waste a turn on stance change
...
>>530411143
A lot of games with stance changes build it into the moves itself so you change stances while doing something. Combine this with moves that are only available in certain stances, this can lead to a good amount of complexity.
Of course, that is assuming Drecom isn't retarded.
>>530411451
it will be good until they realize its too fun for the players and nerf it
>>530410401
>only katanas
HOLY SKIP
>>530410401
Ah shit.
Katana only means they have no DIV so they can't be do emergency heals.
>>530411451
It will be how the implement hide/conceal.
>Enter stance
>Hit by AOE, get knocked out of stance
>Have to reenter stance again.

Never ever get to use actual skills. You like?
What will John Drecom choose?
option 1:
turn one: use demon slaying satana punisher extravaganza move to deal damage and switch to offensive stance
turn two: use heaven splitting cbt destroyer move and switch to defensive stance
option 2:
turn one - activate offensive stance
turn two - use nigger kisser ability
turn three - activate defensive stance
turn four - use paper parry (20% rate)
>samurai class with stance changing
SOVL..
Master Anakin there's too many of them ahh camera angle
https://x.com/madchama/status/1942508983983669299
Rinne…
>>530414841
why does she have 10 big toes
>>530414841
me as rinne
GIVE THE KINO ALDRIC SAMURAI
>>530414841
Cool artist
>>530411987
turn 1 use demon fire buff.
turn two: use one of a few moves associated with it.
turn 3. use stance of the serpent.
use a few more moves with it that are enhanced further from demonfire enchant
So what do I use my 51000 Old Castle Ruins exchange currency on?

The discounted Codex of Learnings for 4k each appear to technically be the most skill-exp for your bux.
But the expensive Intermediate Codex of Learning is still gives four times as much skill-exp as a Codex of Learning and it's just two times more expensive than the non-discounted, regular price for a regular Codex of Learning.
But for 51000 currency I can only afford two Intermediate Codex of Learnings.

But if I spend all my currency on two Intermediate Codexes, then I can't afford the Full Alteration Stones.
Have these Full Alteration Stones been available anywhere else? I should totally grab these shouldn't I? I am assuming they're pretty good for optimizing high end weapons.

So what should I do?
Two Full Alteration stones for 20000?
Then one Intermediate Codex for another 25000?
But now I'm already up to 45000, meaning that I can't afford both the discounted codexes that go for 4k each. But we can still buy one, landing on 49000.

That's two Full Alteration Stones. One Intermediate Codex and one regular Codex, for a total of 125 skill-exp. Do I just buy a discounted adventurer bone after that to add up to 51000 or what's best?
And am I overvaluing the Full Alteration Stones? I still think I should get them.
>>530416126
Always FAS. The only other place you can grab then is monthly or special jeweler packs. They are unlikely to be in most event shops.
>>530416126
You can eventually luckshit into a FAS from extracting, and there's not many pieces of gear worth FASing. There is no free source of Skill Exp outside of events.
>>530417009
>You can eventually luckshit into a FAS from extracting
Wait really? Can basically any kind of extraction result in an "SSR drop" that gives you a FAS instead?
>>530417097
It's really low odds, but it can happen for any extraction I think. You'll probably need 100s for just 1 though.
>>530417097
ive gotten a fas from a 1* and from a 4* before. its pure rng
>>530410401
>Katana only
Please be shit so I can skip.
>Already got ONE (UNO) green 2 star ebon katana from ninja cave
Heh, nothing personal anons, gonna enjoy my samurai slut wife day 1
>>530417097
1 in 10000 successful extractions can be a FAS.
So about 40000~50000 junk extractions for one
>>530356384
>secret boss after octo
wut?
>>530410401
This so does not look like a magical swordman class.
>>530411987
>Waste a turn to enter stance
That's still too good, you forgot to say stances are a buff that counts towards the buff limit and can be dispelled.
>>530417941
>samurai slut wife
samurai slut wife (male) [hairy]
>>530418294
1981 was a different time…
How far into the game do I need to progress to obtain gold ore?
>>530419881
Den of Wind drop
>>530416126
I got baited into getting random skill books which are useful but you can get them mostly from other sources
my first instinct was right,
as in the case with all gachas
ONLY
LIMITED
ROLLS
MATTER
codexes basically give you limited rolls on ANY character
always prioritize them
your second priority should be skill books that you can't inherit
the rest doesn't matter, just get whatever you need
>>530419919
And how far do you need to progress to reach the Den of Wind?
John Drecom here.
Stance changes take no turns like equipping a weapon.
Each stance has a specific cost to maintain either HP, SP, MP, or Fortitude.
The cost increases each turn you are in that stance.
The stances all provide different effects for each skill you have.
Samurai Gacha weapon will increase the effects of stances and lower their costs.
>>530421073
You need to beat 4th abyss
>>530421073
True Ending of Port Town (second dungeon)
>>530422160
true? I think good is enough
>>530422558
Yeah, just need to save your VIP not beat Octo.
>>530422685
Huh? Then what do you even get for achieving the true end?
>>530422836
Pride and accomplishment (tm)
>>530422836
Secret dungeon. Luck lights. Secret special weapon. Bondmates.
>>530423186
You get a Light for doing it the first time, plus some lore and can access the extra areas.
Defeating all of the actual GWOs will likely be important later on.
>>530422836
some lamps and extra goodies methinks. Also bondmates
>>530422836
Best pirate weapon on the game
>>530424065
>a shitty white 1*
>>530424702
best PIRATE weapon
not best weapon
...
>>530425495
And that's how Daniel became a ninja.
>>530423684
but abyss 1 and 3 don't have secret gwos...
>>530426019
Yet.
dworf love!
>>530426019
Sure, and for those you might not need to do anything extra.
>that beard
Yeah, that's not a human lmao
>>530426664
The cope is that he's the generic.
Kiriha was the poster guy that appeared in 2 similar twatter post (class teaser + class description) before they teased Rinne a day before the maint.
Yes, tomorrow we'll see legendary beastfolk (male)
>>530426857
so we're getting the legendary tease tomorrow?
>>530426928
This but male beastfolk are actual full blown furries
>>530426993
In ~20 hours if I'm not mistaken.
>>530426019
>He didn't know about secret Helmut 2.0 and secret Gaykeeper 3.0
Ngmi
>>530427030
No, male beastolk are just humans in fursuits and diapers.
>>530427030
Imba They look like rabbit thinks
>>530427257
Anon. Fuck off with your shitty fetishes. Like seriously. Forget how to breath or something
footpads are just tomboys tho
>>530426019
>the worst abyss is the one that has the most rerun value and secrets
why did Mr John Drecom do this? I wouldn't mind beginning abyss or even guarda but running around port town is literally the worst part about map design in this game
What if it's actually a CC for Aldric...
>>530427493
shitty fetish indeed, the diaper is full, what a stinky little samurai! greetings from germany
>knight is relevant again thanks to ninjas
seeing nips using a backrow knight with high evasion to protect the team from the ninjer boss attacks and take no damage... maybe its time to lvl one up...
Octonarus did nothing wrong and Melgina enjoyed it
>>530428087
>He actually took damage from the ninjas
They hit my frontline fighters for only ~100 each, they couldn't even 1-shot anyone on my backline.
The only thing endangering my chars during the boss fight was their constant crit spam.
>>530428523
gwo thats what the knight is protecting the team from, the crit spam
>>530428087
just class change your lana back to knight gwo
>>530428087
I've had a mothballed Barbara in the dispatch mines forever, waiting for just her moment. Didn't even need her for true ending guarda, so she's still stuck at 50.

How much eva you need to dodge most ninjer attacks anyways? 220-250?
stop calling me gwo im not a greater warped one
>>530429356
I can call you swo if you want
>>530429356
>He doesn't know
Gwo...
>>530429319
>https://x.com/MarchHare0113/status/1940019327744581805
f2p showcase

>https://x.com/Arvel1012/status/1941705342230163626/video/1
whale showcase

around that threshold yeah, above 280 evasion if you dont intend on spamming masolotu and dilto
>>530429356
You're of the "ghuls and warped one"
>>530429356
Gwogger
So what does it look like under Lulunardeβ€˜a skirt
>>530432727
>>530432773
i-is she wearing a thong?
*penis gets mad*
*mating press*
PLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPPLAP
The 2nd Abyss was great.
Only those that not destined to be Arena champion think otherwise.
Total Fish LOVE!
>>530429356
That is fight, you are not greater warped one. Just a gay warped one, hehe
>>530275264
>human male
pass
do you guys think Lulunarde ever had those smug lips of hers wrapped around somone's cock?
>>530436143
she's an adventurer, anon
So if you go on morgus' wild EXP boost ride and MC dies, if you also have a character that is grade capped with you, they'll lose all the exp accumulated past their grade limit, correct?
>>530436143
That's how GWOs are made.
Surely today is the big titty dark elf samurai teaser
>>530440359
I have your big titty dark elf right here
>>530429356
>stop calling me gwo im not a greater warped one
Yeah, you really give off Mediocre Warped One energy.
rinne has boobs
>>530436143
Only feminine cocks.
>>530411045
watch samurai is usable at lvl 30 unlike that shitty ninja that's only usable at 60
>>530410401
>no shield
Unfortuante.
>>530349646
pretty fucked up honestly..
morning burgergwos
>>530441120
I want to protect that smile.
>>530442526
>burgergwos
You mean fat warped ones?
>>530442526
URGHH MEEEEEEAT
>>530410401
>can't use race-slayer weapons
That's kind of a big deal, actually. Ninja can at least use daggers.
Where is my class change?
>>530445047
Look in the mirror... Iarumas
>What does Ζ¨Ι’mυяɒi mean?
>>530418294
It literally says
>When imbued with magic power, it unleashes powerful attacks
>>530445459
>>530446393
That’s it, I’m raping Elmon.
Sheli haet traps.
>>530447632
>Someone... be a pillow for me
>*poke*
And so her hatred of traps began.
I wonder if masketta man smells as a ghoul
is he just like a wrinkly elder or does he faintly smell of decay
>>530447946
He can't smell that bad, he's basically jerky.
>>530448023
>>530447946
your adventurers take 'baths' by slapping a wet towel onto their face
after a few weeks of adventuring you hardly notice the smell of a half rotten ghoul
>>530447946
imagine the smell of those nails
>>530448304
Bunny is tired of imagining.
>>530447946
Vernant thinks you smell, but everybody else is into it. Especially Albano.
Elmon looks like she would slurp your undead smegma up with a smile on her face if you petted her after and told her she did well
I got no good katana
>>530450169
Decent chance they’ll be giving some out via event quests like Kunai and Ninja Katanas during Rinne and Kiriha’s release?
>>530448995
this is a prideful bitch she would not do that
>>530451283
she would make the double peace ahoge face once she got a taste of the undick
accept sudoku
Afro Samurai tomorrow
It's finally over
>no Blind Nigga Samurai
>no Grandmaster Bushido Brown
What a shame.
>>530453836
I'd accept death between Asha's ashas.
>>530453912
japs dont hate the niggers as much as the chinks do but they would never make a black limited character
they are usually relegated to being joke NPCs
>>530453629
He's too based for this game
>>530453836
>>530454169
reminder that this whore died because she was thirsty for cock
>>530454276
>beat the ninjas for the second time
>apparently i was too late so it didnt count
what the fuck i went straight to the boss did i miss something? fucking hell
>>530454332
And now she happily dies repeatedly for my ghul cock.
>>530454556
gotta take the secret path. if you don't end up in the side room behind the boss, you did it wrong.
>>530454698
nyo... this is what i get for not looking up fasterthoughts beforehand...
>>530454671
careful if she gets much stronger you'll have to marry her.
>>530454830
Off to the Training Room.
>>530453385
>undick
>outing yourself as dickless
>>530455032
>power decrease
>>530455202
She doesn't like exercise.
>>530454332
You are just angry that not even whores are thirsty for your microsoft
>>530455032
>power decreasing
Did you show her your instrument? Not even pro apthotecary can do anything with that, lel.
I, I, I, I am your butterfly
I need your protection
Be my samurai
>>530457898
Maybe i do wana dye.
Can’t bake, at work.
Good luck.
NOOOOOOOOOO
Dead. Nice.
I DUN WAN DIE
Dead game. EoS soon.
Sheli was a mistake, horny boys came and left.
Viva Jakarta.
Time to migrate to the superior dungeon crawler
I LOVE CAVES