Thread 530016820

Main Character Edition
21 Sleeps 'til Project Epoch!

>Question of the Thread
What race/class will you roll on Project Epoch?

>Currently Discussed Servers
Turtle WoW - https://turtle-wow.org (Vanilla+)
Ascension - https://ascension.gg/en
Tauri - https://tauriwow.com (MoP, Legion coming soon)
Netherwing - https://stormforge.gg/en (TBC Progressive)
Mistblade 3 (Sheilun) - https://stormforge.gg/en (MOP Progressive)

>Upcoming Servers
Project Epoch - https://www.project-epoch.net (Vanilla+, TBC as design base and Wrath client) - Launch date 26th of July

>Guilds
- Epoch, crossfaction (males only), COMING SOON
- Turtle, crossfaction, whisper anyone

>Previous Thread
>>529875196

1st for fuck yuki that faggot

I'm gnomesexual

Is four chins actually happening? With the loot council I really thought it was a joke

>>530016820 (OP)
Simple as

>What race/class will you roll on Project Epoch?
Torn between Human Paladin or Forsaken Paladin. Both male.

>>530017142
sneedtv viewer

I'm actually so fucking hyped bros....

>>530017142
already on the way out pss

>>530016820 (OP)
Dwarf warrior, always

>>530017256
anons are still crying about how loot wasn't handled in fmc with a fresh 60 in blues and greens being handed sulfuras because "lol he rolled highest" only to quit a few days later and you still think loot councils are a joke?

>>530017348
I'm trans btw, thought it could be interesting.

>>530016820 (OP)
is there a transmog system on Epooh?

>>530017578
so it exists, how does it work?
do I need some shekel server coin, gold, quest reward?

transmog is so insignificant to me i don't understand why people want it so bad yet don't care enough whether it's in the game or not

>>530017348
I'm undecided between rogue, hunter, warlock
Rogue looked like my first choice but it's impossible to tell how good or bad it will. The trees look really mediocre and depending on how much their damage got buffed most raids will most likely just get 1 rogue for IEA and that's it
Hunter seems like the save choice because their trees got the least fucked up with changes and every spec offers some utility for raids
Warlock also has fucked up trees but I always I enjoyed the class
Or maybe I roll warrior because it's the dev pet class with druid and paladin

>No TBC
>No WoTLK
Just unfinished unpolished zones, broken english quest logs, and the glory that is Unreal Engine 5. The future is so bright I gotta wear shades

>>530017142
THE AYATOLLAH OF ROCK AND ROLLAH

>>530018000
don't worry, there will be 5 different 4chan guilds and a bunch of infighting to figure out which will be the wpsg guild

>>530018000
others sound like they were made up by podophiles

Glorified Crew would be the best name. not that I will be joining any guilds, lmao

>>530017458
Surely anons won't be butthurt about someone denying them loot to give it to someone else
>but it will be fair
It never is

Warrior.

>>530018837
Why mace spec? Don't warriors usually go for axe because of the crit?

>>530018837
bladestorm is just there to distract you from how utterly shit the class is
>yeah well, we have bladestorm now!!! haha heckin bladestorm go brrrrr haha

>>530018936
>warrior
>bad in classic
go easy on the drugs bud

>>530018837
>commanding presence not maxed out
that's a kick

>>530018936
But it's fun

kys altered you faggot

>>530018921
Looks fun

>>530018837
>blood craze
cmon man

>>530018921
>>530018995
it's (presumably) his pvp build

>>530018973
its only good by virtue of the other classes being unfinished

>the tar pit in Blacksand Oil Fields doesn't even have a sound for walking on it, let alone some movespeed debuff
>all the quests surrounding the area were clearly written and "proofread" by ESLs
>this is the only kind of content TWoW is ever going to add

Rogue Question:
haven't played 'nilla rogues ever(or tbc for that matter), how much combo spenders can you weave in to your energy regen for raids without them expiring prematurely?
for assa I assume you can use expose armor and envenom but anything like slice and dice or rupture won't happen?

>>530019195
>it's only best because the others are worse
ok buddy

>>530019318
>Epoch has 10% of the dev team, so it's going to be even worse

Kebab spec warrior it is then

>>530018973
>classic
Epoch comes with rage normalization.

>>530019850
that is the definition of best, yes

>>530019850
spot on

>>530018973
>in classic
it's TBC

it's vanilla
not "classic"

there's going to be so many warriors man

>>530021396
more paladins but yeah plate is going to be overplayed af

>>530021396
>>530021437
makes me almost not want to roll rogue because I know I will have fight for trinkets rings and weapons like crazy

>>530021396
good, the knight/fighter class should always be the most popular
a raid of wizards, oversized chickens, demon summoners and heckin crusaders is fucking dumb. there should only ever be a few of them and only there to support the backline behind the wall of bloodthirsty metal that is the Warrior

>>530021520
the price you pay for being able to TURN FUCKING INVISIBLE WHENEVER YOU WANT

>>530021396
And that's a good thing.

'poch lock looks extremely underwhelming
better than turtle maybe but that's an extremely low bar

>epox
>not playing fagadin
its like you don't want to auto-win

>>530021990
As a warlock main I actually kind of like it, especially the affli tree. The only thing I would maybe change is add another strong demo talent (maybe something that makes shadowbolt a bit more special for the spec) and push destro even more into the fire build, I feel like with how good Improved Shadowbolt is you're never going to be doing the incinerate build (but again it kind of depends on gear as well).

Orgrim Doomhammer - Warchief of the Horde, Blackrock Chieftain, Backstabber, The Doomhammer
> 0 women
> childless
>died at the age of 40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vev716J5rI0

me on the 26th

>>530021396
I watched a couple of videos of the new dungeons and it looked like Druid central, but it might not be representative of the actual population because it might have been people trying out the new changes.

>mana
naw naw naw naw naw naw
miss me with that sissy shit

>>530022639
Mana is for sissies and rage for women.

>>530018921
>OH MY FUCKING SCIENCE THINK OF THE HECKIN' NUMBERINOS

https://github.com/Schaka/WotLK-AddOns_TBC
https://github.com/Macumbafeh/PlateCastBar_awesome_wotlk

Here's some recently updated 3.3.5 addons. Not sure if they'll work off the bat on Epoch though given that it's custom... but what do I know!

>trannymogging because you’re ashamed of who you are
soulless
>embracing the gender you were born with and how your mismatched gear looks with pride
SOVL

>>530022542
>gnome warrior
humiliation ritual

>>530023050
https://gitlab.com/users/Tsoukie/projects'

A couple more

Magni Bronzebeard - Lord and Thane of Ironforge, High Thane of the Bronzebeard clan, The King Under The Mountain
> 1 wife
> 1 daughter (hits the pipe)
> first child in late 20's to early 30's

>>530023656
dude...
AZURITE

>>530018973
>classic andy thinks buffed private servers and classic where bosses die within duration of death wish are the same

>here's your private server playerbase, bro
I WILL NOT JOIN YOUR SPELLCLEAVE
I WILL NOT JOIN YOUR SPEEDRUN
I WILL NOT JOIN YOUR GDKP
I WILL NOT WATCH YOUR STREAM
I WILL NOT JOIN YOUR TRANNYCORD
I WILL NOT CELEBRATE PRIDE MONTH
I WILL NOT PAY FOR YOUR BOOST
I WILL NOT USE YOUR SUMMONING SERVICE
I WILL NOT INV YOU TO ASMON LAYER
I WILL NOT INSTALL ARROW ADDON
I WILL INVITE FIRST 4 PLAYERS WHO WHISPER ME TO MY GROUPS REGARDLESS OF THEIR CLASS
I WILL PLAY THE CLASS THAT IS FUN FOR ME REGARDLESS OF THE METERS
I WILL INSTA IGNORE ANYONE WHO SAYS A TWITCH MEME
I WILL SEXUALLY HARASS NELFIES
I WILL DISCUSS POLITICS IN THE WORLD CHAT
and most importantly
I WILL SAY NIGGER

>>530016820 (OP)
> - Epoch, crossfaction (males only)
But who will heal you?

Malfurion Stormrage - Shan'do, Co-ruler of the night elves, First of the Druids, Arch-Druid of the Moonglade
> 1 wife
> 1 stepdaughter
> infertile
> near immortal

>>530024158
REAL MEN DON’T NEED HEALS

>>530024208
good luck trying to kill a single wolf chud

>>530023802
eyy it's the rezultata guy

i will not be joining when all they have to show is not allowing trannies even doe 4chan wpsg pop is mostly trannies

>>530024267
I will become the wolf

>>530024290
t. ranny

For me, it's Dwarf Shaman.
Female

I will be joining , where our GM Idaho will lead with an iron fist, gather all the trannies and w*men, take them outback and shoot them in the head.

>>530024448
Holy based...

>>530024448
Idaho loves trannies though.

>>530023050
>>530023436
Kinda insane how much better Turtle would've been if Wall hadn't left and they made the switch to 3.3.5 five years ago.

Anyway I'll skip Epoch and wait for Wallcraft. Now that's the real fresh...

No vampires.
No werewolves.
No demons.

>>530024709
They said they wouldn’t make the switch because they would have had to remake all their custom stuff or it wouldn’t work.
Now all that custom stuff is either remade (tmogs, the turtle store) or doesn’t work (Mirage Raceway).

ePOOchjeets are getting more and more uppity.

>>530021164
>he's not stance swapping for a 2nd interrupt and a 2nd taunt

>>530024448
cheap imitation of also known as if cucked by the german autist kaytotes

>>530022275
come back when you have a city named after you

>>530024518
BASED

Cairne Bloodhoof - High Chieftain, Earthmother's Chosen
> 1 woman
> 1 son
> died in a pvp against Garrosh at the age of 107

>>530025050
based theorycrafter

I just read the word "oof" in a quest log.

>>530024518
Where do I sign?

warrior is the only fun vanilla class.

>go to lvl 23 unique quest mob
>is being killed by a lvl 30 "hardcore" rogue
>he didn't even have the quest

>>530025435
Um, yikes

>>530026230
epoch isn't vanilla

>>530025435
It's a normal expression

>>530026420
warrior is also the only fun class post vanilla.

>>530024518
Buthroughbeit, Sylma/Pearl is already an officer of .

>>530026480
maybe in Retail

>>530027053
I'm sure there were cartoons in the 80's and 90's that used the expression "oof" when someone fell on their ass or something

I hope epoch doesn't have disguises, seeing dragons, worgens, banshees, dryads, etc, just walking around or questing breaks all the immersion. Also that cloud mount is the worst.

>>530024448
Idaho will lead us to victory on Epoch!

>>530026986
That fag was the second one banned from

>Healer Priest
>Just unlocked Mana Burn
Seems like this replaces wanding with wand specialization for mana regen?

Not for solo content, I suppose

>>530028372
>drain doesn't actually mean drain
ah ok, the devs are retarded

>>530021610
Admiral chads stay winning. (I know who you are)

>>530027760
>Fish leading anyone to victory
lol
lmao even

>>530027760
that's so funny elaynna

The spell is called mana BURN, Elaynna... And even if the description says it "drains" mana, doesn't mean that it's the same like when you drain cocks, you don't get the mana. The word "drain" doesn't imply you slurp up the substance you drain.

You’re all going to have a good laugh when you find out who Idaho really is haha

>>530031621
i won't because i'm not joining

wtf my voidwalker is a girl

>>530024518
This guild better be real

Felkiss...

Are you guys hyped for epoch? Or it still doesn't meet your autistic standards?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=opB3w1LaVBQ&pp=ygUVUHJvamVjdCBlcG9jaCB0cmFpbGVy

It seems really, really professional, more than turtle, and it's built on the 3.3.5 client, unlike turtle's vanilla client

>>530030346
it says burn, drain is the warlock one and that one gives you mana.

Idaho = Jib

>>530031621
See >>530031268

Idaho is Sharbull
Sharbull = Warhorn/Gargoth
Another tranny ERP guild but on Epoch
Gross!

Randomfatuglybitchassniggawithnolifeandnohoes...

uh oh melty

>>530031906
I am, I don't give a shit about people crying over their classes. But I do think Turtle will still be more popular, and not sure about how big of a success Epoch will be. Time will tell, meanwhile I'll enjoy the content.

>>530024518
>If you’re a tranny, a chronic masturbator, or a fool mooner, you’re OUT bucko!

>If you're a wow player you're out


Now that i think of it, there probably are far more troons than actual females playing wow private servers

>>530032279
>crying over their classes
Quick rundown? What did they do?

>>530032137
This is very close to the truth.

>>530032137
sharbull is sylma

Wait... The Cabal is real?

I have infiltrated the wpsg shadow government and my findings are sickening.

>>530031607
that's exactly what it implies

>>530032763
>wpsg shadow government
the FMC 'cord?

>>530031961
>it says burn
it says drain, too. twice

>>530032832
is a very gay sounding guild name

>>530032458
https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents/
Some seems to be dissatisfied with the changes to their classes, check the talents yourself.

>Barrens are greener than Durotar, with none of the rainfall
based Naralex doing work

>Playing warmane lordaeron with a 30 something level alt
>someone recruits me
>guild named
>the first thing I read in the chat are /pol/ tier comments about niggers and jews

Why are wow private servers so chuddish?

>>530032832
Hey uhhh is my name and I'm glad you like it but I don't approve of gayass inner circle shadgov dkp/loot council shit.
>>530033389
Not true.

>>530034725
letting freshies roll on dft/eye/tf/whatever instead of just giving it to core raiders is just retarded and discouraging thoughbeit

>>530032832
That's what my old troontle guild did, SR loot system for most items, and loot council for rare/too important drops like the ones you mentioned. Also while progressing BWL you would get a +10 every week on your roll if the item you SRd didn't drop last week/you lost the roll and you didn't change your SR. I don't remember any complaints about it.

>>530035883
>you would get a +10 every week on your roll if the item you SRd didn't drop last week/you lost the roll
how does that work? would roll 131 if you didn't get it for 3 weeks?

>>530035883
looney troonies in the thread don't understand people who play and perform will just get tired and leave if the bottom feeders get their shit just because they're luckier

>>530034803
Whatever man I don't even know. Last time I played WoW was TBC classic. There was no 4cuck guild. Dungeons were tedious as fuck to run. Raids, despite being piss easy, were all gdkp cancer or some stupid weekly discord pugs where you have to damn near do a job application to join with "everything is hr, come carry me". Finding a guild was like finding a spouse. That cancerous shit plus the removal of /spit made the game literally unplayable. Whoever created the gdkp system needs to be beaten and raped. I guess any other loot system is better. Like bro I played WoW when wrath was current and I just went /w inv dps and just did raids and got loot. And that's with wotlk being the fucking "gs???" expansion.

so what's a server that starts at vanilla and gradually adds blizzard expansions over time? just paypig classic? this "custom content" is trash

>>530036649
dkp isn't gdkp, in dkp you earn points for being active and contributing, in gdkp you bid with gold for items

>>530036762
Yeah dumbass I know. I just wantes to rant and share how garbage TBC classic was for example. GDKP should be banned everywhere and fuck any bitch that thinks otherwise. I think turtle and epoch don't allow that gay tranny shit. God fucking bless for that. Imagine buying your fucking gear with money. What's the fucking point of even playing then? I wanna see a fat fuck faggot irl saying how much he loves GDKP so I can beat his gay bitch ass on the spot.

>>530036762
How do buy dkp? Who do I talk with?

really don't understand it can't tell what it is with the obsession with people like zangatsu. far left aligned transgender guild master, pedofile to boot. we don't care about your alts yuo try to sneak in our guild communities to sabotage our characters. whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger. we are perros wit all bite, no bark. mean what i say, say what i mean.

>>530034803
Maybe telol will understand that after today

I know who Idaho is.

What loot system do Faggot Monkey Clowns use?

>>530037829
everything is rolled for and pugs have no loot restrictions

>>530034660
>whiter than a klan rally
gee what a surprise

>>530037915
Wtf, except the pug part I love Fraudulent Misleading Conmen now.

The more I dig through the trash like a possum
the crazier this shit gets

>>530036707
>just paypig classic?
ya cuz it's shit and doesn't work for pservers

>>530037829
SR > MS > +1 > OS
Note that no one respects the +1 or OS thing. Everyone just rolls anything that isn't SR.

>>530038660
SR is gay.

>>530038732
it's the ultimate fair rule

brb

whoever fucking thought of putting hardcore players into the same server needs to hang

>>530038854
is it really fair in a guild like fmc where half of the roster relies on being carried

>>530039268
like who
name names. who's getting carried?
we're all really similarly geared with the exception of like, 3 anons in naxx gear.

>>530039338
just use your brain. tire of repeating myself

>>530039405
retard you're not even in fmc

I've just noticed that i have these three dungeons available to do.
What am i in for as a level 48 warlock human girl?

>>530039582
long ass fucking walk

>>530037829
Just roll on anything, there is rules in theory but the people doing the loot either don't know them or don't care.
If you dont SR something you're unlikely to get it.

>>530039582
Skip this dogshit

>>530039756
>>530039637
But i want to do all the dungeons in the game because i have never played wow.

>>530038326
>it's shit
retarded boomer
>doesn't work for pservers
why the hell not?

any gamers up for some 3.3.5???

>>530036089
first week you roll normal, second week /roll 10-110, third week 20-120 etc, until you get your item. As long as you attend the raids and don't change your SR, if you change it or miss the raid you start over (I assume if some rl shit happens it could be talked). It's not perfect, but it's an incentive to keep coming and knowing you have some advantage on the item you've been after for some time.

>>530040020
Just do Princess and hope one of the players has staff.

>>530040171
>why the hell not?
requires a client change for every version of the game you push out and each client has its own bugs and messes, since pserver devs are fags and don't like sharing their core work even though 99% of it is supposed to be open source and thus publicly available, thus going from one expac to another is way harder for pservers.
not to mention why put in all that work when you can stay on one client version and just add content to it

it's just a bug filled stressful idea for private servers. custom content is new and fresh, if we wanted to play classic/tbc/wotlk/etc then we'd be on blizz servers.

Squirtlebros what castbar addon are you using? I like quartz but superwow is kinda dogwater and it doesn't work well without it. Then oCB is decent but it just crashes my game constantly and I can't fix it.

>>530040623
i just use superwow + shaguplates cuz i'm a pleb

Will Epoch be pve or pvp only server?
This is a make or break for me. I don't want some sweaty, no life subhumans acting out their high school shooter fantasies on me.

>>530040842
it's pve with warmode

>>530040683
Shagu has a castbar addon? The plate bar one is awful at least.

>>530040870
Thank God.

i found jib

>>530040978
dn't know, i installed shaguplate and have the superwow castbarlib installed and the castbars look nice

I take it Turtle does not have the option to change your hair style in the barbershop anywhere?

>>530040978
oh u mean for player castbars?
uh i use luna unit frames...

>>530040978
Shagu's addons are a freaking malware minefield, packed with backdoors—stay the hell away from his crap. He just screwed over the Solocraft crew by sneaking shady-ass payloads into his addons.

>>530041410
proofs?

>>530039338
It's not the gear, if you do less than 400 dps in naxx then you don't belong there.

>>530041358
Isn't that a unit frame?
>>530041410
Damn bro I just wanna play some WoWie, why does everything have to be a virus...

>>530041559
okay so who is it that isn't performing
name names

>>530041434
Yo, you want proof? Just hop on the Solocraft Discord, man—it’s a damn ghost town now! People are bailing left and right ‘cause the FBI’s reportedly sniffing around, vanning folks over Shagu’s sketchy-ass addons.

>>530041686
no
you're in there
start posting screenshots

>go to a raid
>want to roll on an item
>/roll 100
>some other guy gets to roll 100-200 because he no lifed and the thing never dropped
>leave raid
>leave guild

>>530041797
i mean if i was that other guy i'd be pretty happy this fucking item finally dropped and i don't have to waste an SR on it anymore or compete with some fresh newbie who just joined and rolled better

Damn bro I'm really getting fed up with turtle. It's full of fucking autistics. I have like 3 autistic encounters per day. I just did /spit on some dude and he started whispering me with walls of text in broken English about morals and some tranny "how would you feel if I did that to you" shit. Like shut the fuck up and fuck outta here retarded fat fuck.

>>530041998
why did u /spit on him anon

>>530041998
Tell us anon, what caused you to do /spit on a poor, victim soul?

>>530041797
It's honestly quite annoying when you are new to a guild. Like check out this SR bonus sheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UhQcg-gOCkb2lNfI9u9oS9cSpJqd49AhmRjFmMUGM1c/edit?usp=sharing
Good luck getting anything. Have to raid with them more than a month if you want a chance at getting your SR.

>>530042052
He was talmbout some naked lapdance in exchange for a tent shit and I just pressed my spit macro on his dirty bitch ass.

>>530042215
post macro

>>530041797
That's not how SR works, only people who SRd that item rolls for it. This system isn't perfect and would only work in a guild environment. Also, SRing an item knowing that someone else is SR 100-200 on it would be as retarded as it can get.

>>530042297
>would only work in a guild environment.
works fine in pugs too
>SRing an item knowing that someone else is SR 100-200 on it would be as retarded as it can get
nah, i'd win.
i've beaten people who have 2x sr'd an item with my 1 sr roll. feels so fucking good

>>530037829
free roll on legendaries for anyone. even non-anons and random puggers.

I came back to Turtle after like eight months and i have 150 Turtle shop coins for some reason.
What did i do?

>>530042297
>sr band of accuria because it's an upgrade for you and you already won all your other upgrades from mc
>get to roll 101
>meanwhile one guy gets to roll 91-191 because it hasn't dropped for him
>another guy gets to roll 51-151
>a third guy gets 121-221 on it and i can't even beat him
>why am i going to mc now?

>>530036707
warmane onyxia. it's currently in later half of TBC and it will stop at WoTLK

>>530042695
and how would you feel as the person who has sr'd an item and lost it/not getting in 4 raids(4 weeks(1month))?

>>530042695
>>why am i going to mc now?
To spend time with the guild you like playing a game you have fun with?

>>530042783
I'd congratulate my guildmate on scooping up an upgrade.

>>530042953
faggot you would never be so graceful and magnanimous

>>530042941
>To spend time with the guild you like playing a game you have fun with?
Then why are you getting bent out of shape if your guildmate who you have fun with and possibly like and consider a friend gets an item? Shouldn't you be happy for them?

>>530041743
Uh, don't you ever look at the code for addons you install??? This is directly from pfQuest's browser.lua!

>>530043106
Yeah I'll be happy when my friend who has been SRing the same item for 12 weeks in a row finally wins it

>>530043030
It's happened to me before where a newer player won an item I was after. It really isn't a big deal.

>>530043250
it is a big deal because the loot system fucking sucks

>>530043230
But not when your friend who SR'd it for the first time gets it? Why? You don't like your friends?
Personally I like the people I raid with and I'm glad when they get upgrades whether it was their first SR or their one hundredth.

>>530042263
nta but you literally just wrire /spit in a macro.
I used it in retail to rapidfire spit at people in BGS. Pretty sure some tranny at Blizzard removed the emote by now.

why do you autists always have to make shit so complicated with dkp?

>>530043291
man, why would you raid with a guild with a loot system you dislike? If you raid with the guild of your choice it's because you agree to their loot system and won't be bitching about it afterwards.

>>530043291
It would suck to enter into a raiding guild only to find out you have zero chance of getting any cool items this year because they're all +1000 by multiple different players. Just the scraps for you. That's a hard sell. At that point you're absolutely better off pugging.

They should just make it so that every person gets their own loot drops from bosses that way everyone in the raid doesn't have to share and fight for the same drops

>>530043469
i like the sr system
i like the sr+9000 pity system
>>530043526
clearly it fucking wont be as those players get loot it gets freed up
the only time this becomes a true issue is when you have tier tokens because then multiple people are sring the same item

>>530043397
Because one has been wanting it for longer obviously

>>530043526
>"heh kid you shouldn't even bother sring that cool item because i have +9000 on it"
>ok i'll just join a pug where people roll fair
>"NOO YOU CAN'T PUG"

>>530043616
Or maybe the guy who SR'd it the first time wanted it since the day he made the character but didn't want to go for it first because it's a rarer drop and it's more responsible to pick up smaller but more common upgrades first.

>fmc has a melty over loot drama
it's pixels. who cares.

>>530043545
Imagine the brownie tears when bindings drop for a hunter.

>have to wait for TBC Anni because pservers are not doing any fresh TBC for years
I hate giving Nuzzard money but it is what it is

>>530043160
>lying about something so easily checked
????

>>530043526
It also means you're getting a bunch of items wiith very little competition since they've been farming the raid for a while

>>530043820
>it's pixels. who cares.
Every single manchild, so most WoW players. And that's why personal loot was a good addition.

>>530043810
A man of patience can wait some more without issues

>>530043851
Crusaders Storm 2 when?

>>530043820
The retards who made raiding with an anon guild unfun because they constantly cry whenever something drops and doesn't instantly go to them care intensely.
These are the same people who will turn around and pug during guild raids.
Then they wonder why nobody signs up for raids or log in any more.
You can give yourself +9999999 or whatever and it won't matter because you'll be the only one who signs up for the raid.
Like that MC run where the retard tried to HR the bindings to himself.
But yeah feel free to push away new players in a guild that has only stayed alive this long because it constantly gets new players.
Especially when Epoch is on the way and will siphon a lot of those new players.

>>530043820
If you didn't care about pixels you wouldn't be playing video games

>>530043160
I always had my suspicions about Shagu and his addons but this just confirms everything. Thanks anon!

>>530044012
Then you don't need +100. You can just keep waiting patiently until you win with a roll where you didn't need to weight the dice so heavily in your favor.

>>530036707
chromiecraft

Loot goblins inevitably drive everyone away until they can no longer get loot because they have no one to raid with.

Guys, these items usually drop and people move on with their SRs, unless you're the unluckiest guild in the world you wont get people with 150-250 SR shit. It's just an example of what my old guild did in BWL when we were progressing only, MC and the rest had normal SR's with a few important items LC.

>>530044416
Bad luck on loot happens. You can go for months without seeing certain items.

>>530044192
Or they can just get it since they have been SRing it for about 3 months straight

>>530044061
I play MMOs for the second M.
If I just cared about pixels I'd waste money on NFTs.

>>530043545
Isn't that just personalized loot which people hate?

>>530044416
See the sheet linked here >>530042212
It's +5 to your SR per week, there is 25 SR with +100 or more.

>>530044338
Then they ask for FRESH.

>>530044673
Except after three months no new players want to join your raids because all items are essentially HR'd to "core raiders."
I've joined multiple pugs where it's the same core raiders and they never used the +10 system. They just roll the same as everyone else and if they won their SR great. If they didn't great next week then.

>>530044784
>shits over new players and remove every pug able to read
Great system.

>>530040604
>play classic/tbc/wotlk/etc then we'd be on blizz servers.
no I wouldn't

I remember falling for DKP once
>numbers mysteriously rose when no raids were on
>when asked
>"they helped the guild:)"
>as soon newbies got enough DKP to bid, GM wanted to reset DKP for everyone in "the spirit of fairness"
gayest system imaginable, never again

>>530042695
>>530044051
Why does it work in every other guild and pug?

>>530042212
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UhQcg-gOCkb2lNfI9u9oS9cSpJqd49AhmRjFmMUGM1c/edit?usp=sharing
Holy fuck that is cancer.

>>530045375
I've never joined a pug that did the +10 thing. What would be the point?

>>530045375
Cumulative SR typically isn't done in pugs. Pugs are much more willing to HR certain items but usually no more than a couple.
Not every guild uses it either.

Who else is hype for Naxx tonight

>>530043851
netherwing is not even 5 months old

>>530045546
>>530045742
He thinks "pugs" use that system because the "pugs" he joined were actually other guild's runs who couldn't field enough players to do the raids so they had to resort to filling them in with pugs.
Those guilds can't get numbers because they use a system that discourages new players from joining in. They have to rely on the trash of the server as a result.

>>530016820 (OP)
cant wait to see you all on monday for epoch's stress test! you guys do have accounts, right? right....?

>>530044051
no guild ever HRs legendaries. that just doesnt happen

>>530046086
can u even make an account rn

Gelbin Mekkatorque - High Tinker, King of Gnomes
- 0 women
- childless
- most likely a virgin too
- 72 years old

>>530046206
>"all items i want are hr'd to me because i've been in this guild longer than you all"
great system

>>530046332
you dont have an account? sorry but its over for you see you next fresh

>stranger calls me sir
>i call them sis
>this upsets them

Gelbin Mekkatorque - High Tinker, King of Gnomes
> 0 women
> childless
> most likely a virgin too
> 72 years old

>>530046086
I don't remember account details, throw away email for first beta (it was shit)

>>530046368
little bro cant read

>>530046339
based, I bet he has a robowaifu that looks like Jaina or Whitemane

>>530046086
I have an account and unlike >>530046468 I wrote down the info for it so maybe if only to post about it on the thread.

>>530046468
https://account.project-epoch.net/password/reset

>>530046501
>join a raid
>every item worth getting is basically hr'd by some nolifer
>no chance of getting anything worthwhile
>leave raid
>raid doesn't happen because the nolifers can't get enough idiots to farm loot for them

been huntin that giant turtle labubu for a whole month now.... dont even know how im gonna pay rent next month.... food aint even on the list.... spent all my ssdi check chasin it.... might gotta sell my new couch from april just to try a few more times.... when project epoch droppin.... need somethin to make this all go away....

>>530046595
thanks anon but the lifespan of throwaway email is shorter than mayflies'
I will just register again when the time comes

>he thinks people play turtle/epoch because they don't want this or that blizzard expansion
>he thinks people don't just want to play WoW for free
the delusion, lmao

>>530046339
>>530046458
Just like Jib.

You're not going to be able to convince new anons to level up a new character to 60 and raid so that you can win loot they have practically zero chance of getting. That might work if you pull in pugs to your raids but then you have to raid with pugs. The vast majority of anons do not see the point in that. If they're going to raid with non-anons they can join another raiding guild that has Naxx on farm.

>>530046821
Plenty of reasons one could have to play on a private server over blizzard. Sure some people do it because it's free. I know some who juggle between blizzard and private servers, myself incluided.

>>530046821
Most people would like to play on an official blizzard server but they have worse content and are invaded by bots, I'm sure many in this thread are gonna try the classic + they might announce later this year.

>>530045895
No, they were regular pugs.
I never said that every pug uses that system.
Joining a guild as a pug that uses SR+ would be retarded, since you are unlikely to keep your spot.

>>530045251
That's why you get the dkp addon that auto tracks everything and make it mandatory for every raider

>>530047181
Excuse me! But I for one respect my elders and those that have sunk in way more time into this game than me. I am patient and willing to wait my place in line knowing that all of the vetz will love and appreciate me and I'll be equal to them in terms of gear progression in very short order. JFC!!

>>530047492
>Why does it work in every other guild and pug?
It doesn't work in pugs.
It doesn't even really work in guilds.
It especially doesn't work in a guild that loses members every week because you can't stop from gossiping about one another and dramafagging all the damn time.

>>530046821
No actually I just want to play on a server where the GMs actually ban bots and grifers and there's no WoW token to tank the economy. Not that your faggot ass would understand.

>>530046730
i aint readin allat

>>530047569
Ingame addons are even easier to rig. With google sheets, you at least have an independent third party (google) keeping track of edit history.

>Project Epoch has Undead Paladins
>Look Inside
>Seal Twisting
No thanks homo

>>530047994
skill issue

>>530016820 (OP)
>crossfaction (males only)
Crossfaction means no pvping together, which makes this a sissy guild desu

erm... when is clearing plague wing again?

>>530048627
>pvp with your alliance guild mates against your horde guild mates
You lack vision.

>>530048703
That's just glorified dueling, i want to kill niggas who belong to different tribe, please understand.

>>530048659
Never because Telol can’t get his shit together

>>530048659
That's so funny Jib

>>530048659
Jib.


Please save our Naxx run.


You;re our only hope.

>>530048659
How do I join ?

Project Epoch won't kill Turtle but it will kill FMC if FMC doesn't kill itself first.

Can’t choose between a dwarf shaman or a forsaken paladin. They both seem so fun.

>>530047181
And the anons who carry the raids don’t see the point in losing an item they’ve waited months for to some random in greens who joined yesterday and isn’t going to stick around.

>>530049748
For me it’s Dwarf Shaman. Fun race to play as plus fun class to play as. Best of both worlds.

>>530047715
>loses members every week because you can't stop from gossiping about one another
Name 1, even filthy/grud didn't leave over that.

>>530046821
for me it's the lack of twitch niggers and their drones

>>530049947
The anons who carried the raids left because they were tired of dealing with anons like you. Why don’t you demand the pug you skip FMC raids to run with HR upgrades for you? Surely they’ll listen.

You're talking about FMC and randoms in raids, but the guils itself had several randoms someone invited with no vetting. Any time I see you using emotes and talking like a redditor I know for a fact you're not a 4cuck. If you're an xD'er you're a random.

>>530050084
Filthy and Grud both left over dramafagging which you conveniently cut out when you quoted me.
Filthy left specifically because Elicia and Asalys kept bringing up old drama in regards to them playing alts so they can pug on mains.
Grud left because trannies dramafagging in general.

>>530049586
you don't have to kill turtle to kill it, you just need to take away 1000 players

>b-but 1000 players won't sustain epoch
exactly

>>530050159
I'm not in FMC, this is how it is everywhere, which is why most guilds have SR+, LC or band new raiders from rolling on certain items.

>>530050276
>If you're an xD'er you're a random.
but I love Tayxd

>>530049748
>seal twisting
or
>totem weaving

>>530050595
I’m just going to level casually and not worry.

why did this retard remove all the important info from the op?

>>530050348
Filthy kept bringing it up constantly and when people talked back to him, he muted them. Warhorn reversed the mute which caused Filthy to lose his shit and ragequit, Grud following shortly after.

>>530050573
Most guilds don’t recruit exclusively from a thread full of autistic trannies so they can do whatever

thinking nelf priest on pochie for shadowmeld + mind control griefing, anyone else?

>>530050595
I ain't doing none of that lil bro

>>530050348
anon all the messages are still there on discord you don't have to make up lies

>>530050276
LMAOOOOO look at this lil r/donald refugee ass nigga

>>530050595
Hard pass. Don’t really care to sweat all over a comfy server

>>530051038
>Warhorn
What happened to him? Oh yeah you faggots drove him off by acting like retards.

>>530051224
take gnome priest for smaller model and swap racials to nelf

>>530051564
He was the biggest faggot I have ever seen if anything.

>>530051038
It's funny because it wasn't neither of them bringing up the discussion and it was entirely self inflicted, legitimately ruling just to piss people off

>wait so we've banned alts in fmc from coming to raids and getting loot
>but the officers are fine with the idea of alts from pp from coming to raids and getting loot

>>530050450
>>b-but 1000 players won't sustain epoch
Why not? Turtle sustained for years with far less. And at that point in time it had far less custom content than what Epoch will have at launch.

>>530051564
He left due to irl issues. When I talked to him he seemed bummed that he couldn’t play any more.

>>530046821
$15 is nothing if you have a job in a first-world country, even the poorer ones.
Sometimes I get the urge to go back to the official servers but then I remember the wow token, the bots, the fact that trade chat and the official dungeon finder is 100% boost spam, what the average player is like and that Blizzard is Blizzard so things are only going to get worse.
I'm sure there's plenty of thirdies who get filtered by the sub fee and end up playing on private servers but they tend to gravitate toward the latest playable expansion sincew they'd play retail if they could.

1000 players would be fine, I'm expecting less than that after a few weeks. Hopefully I'm wrong.

>>530051821
>irl issues
Yeah fucking right.

>>530052051
There will be an initial surge followed by a drop. Oddly the key to Turtle’s success was starting small and building up. Slow and steady won the race.

>>530052051
fresh servers always siphon off people and then immediately fall off for a few months and then turtle absorbs all their developers and changes into their server

This thread keeps proving ’s rules correct.

>>530051661
>And at that point in time it had far less custom content
so it was better?

>>530046821
We reached the point that pservers are the best way to avoid thirdies and RMT. You can't make this shit up.

>>530052558
>>530051915
how does boosting or RMT affects you, anyway?

How far will FMC get in naxx today?

You talk all this shit because you're all faceless. Get on the discord and say your qualms or shut the fuck up you absolute faggots.

Nobody's getting recruited on here. Nobody cares for anything
The melties at this point are inconceivable. Wth will you melt over? Not getting loot from the 3 raids that everyone already has everything from?

>>530052661
It completely ruins the economy.

>>530052810
Heigan

>>530052810
Who cares? They’ll never clear before Epoch ends their guild.

>>530052810
naxx is canceled, the guild has all but disbanded btw important announcement today

>>530052891
You had some faggot ragequit over a MC trinket a week ago so yeah they still care over the dumbest shit

>only two tanks
What happened to all the tanks?

>>530051576
*presses tab*

>>530053421
Got fed up with the drama and left

>>530051915
Yeah I was considering playing Moppie Classic, since I even have a boost from Soddie so I can skip C*ta, but then I remembered that Classic is a RMT fueled GDKP shithole. Fuck that shit, I'll rather stick to pservers, specially with Ecuck FRESH in a month.

>>530052939
>engaging with the economy at all
just get your gear from quests, dungeons and raids

>>530052891
what's your name on discord?

>>530053606
which drama?

>>530052228
Yes, because they was no real alternative to Turtle. Epoch on the other hand has a behemoth to fight against right off the bat. If people dislike the changes to leveling, difficulty and classes, they will just go and never look back.

>>530053927
People play on Turtle because there hasn’t been a good alternative. All Epoch has to do to win is not completely fuck up. The bar is low.

Turtle's slow and steady challenge with tents and warmode is faster than Epochs basic leveling experience. Sovlful? Yes, but turtlefags will be filtered hard.

>>530052661
>how does boosting or RMT affects
Greetings saar

>>530054182
People play on Turtle because they want to play on Turtle. If somebody asks which pserver to play, they get told to play on Turtle because they like it there. Almost 9k daily peak players will be not only hard to beat but also even harder to tear away from.
>The bar is low
Not really. Especially for Epoch, considering how long it was in development (if you believe them) and how many glaring issues and untrsted mechanics are still present.

>>530054307
>haha somebody added boosting to the sentence and forgot the delete the s from affects afterwards, must be an indian xDDDD

>>530054714
I play on Turtle because there aren’t any other vanilla plus servers. When that changes I will move to Epoch. I am not the only one.

>>530054857
I look like this

>>530054857
>RMT apologist, must be an indian
Or other kind of thirdie, yes.

>>530054857
lmao triggered troon

>>530054263
Honestly I don't get the rush. The only thing that awaits you at 60 on a fresh server is farming Molten Core. I'll play with the 0.5 xp challenge because fuck raiding.
>>530054182
The bar isn't that low. Turtle has twice the custom content Epoch will have at launch, even if a lot of it is shit. Also turtle's class changes, such as they are, are more likely to attract players than what Epoch is doing.
I've already quit Troondle and will try Epoch for sure but I think the former just looks more interting to an uninformed potential player.

>>530054857
>the delete the s

>turtle removed dark pact
what the fug

>>530055808
>Turtle has twice the custom content Epoch will have at launch
lol. lmao even.

i will not be playing on epoch and if I find out you're i will delete you from my friend list

>>530056741
jokes on you, i don't have any friends...

>>530055808
based journey enjoyer. I just want something like turtle but more grounded. I don't want to see warriors and rogues in wedding dresses. I don't want to see banshees and dragons casually walking around stormwind. Also turtle hc players can go suck a dick.

Can hc characters group with non hc on epoch?

>>530057603
yes, it's not "pure hc" more like a light take on it.

>le hardcore is basically a knowledge check
>playing hc in a new custom server
Legit mental illness.

NIGGERcore

>>530058358
Unexpected things are fun and you don't lose your character on death you simply have to do a humiliation ritual to revive it as non hc

>friend says he's at a dinner and asks me to go drinking with him after
>didn't invite me to the dinner

Yeah nah get fucked littleass nigga. I'm gonna stay home and enjou some WoW.

reminder to grief all dungeon parties with hardcorefags in them

so

turtlewow is unplayable because of the hardcore and softcore populations griefing each other 24/7. with epoch have this?

>>530058697
how do you grief people in a difference instance?

>>530059017
They'll be in the same groups as (You) on Epoch.

You guys know how trannies always pick the most cringe and retarded names when they """transition"""?

>Galaxy
>Locretia
>Jasmine

I /who FMC and half of your character names are exactly like that. Are you that damn uncreative?

>>530059179
>I /who FMC and half of your character names are exactly like that. Are you that damn uncreative?
Examples?

>>530059156
people in hardcore do group content?

can't wait for hc escort services to pop up, killing the entire spirit of the challenge on epoch

>>530059487
Well I'm not gonna shit on some rando that didn't do anything to me. You can just log in and check on your own.

>>530059487
Hadrianus

I'm so cool.

>>530059860
Esotericist...

other than hyjal, can I just walk into cata zones without the breadcrumb quest or nah?

>>530059617
Pussy lol

>>530060256
Aye?

>go into a mine
>don't have burst damage
>mob runs away
>calls the entire mine
>die

>>530059617
poochie

>>530060272
nope, without the intro quests pretty much all zones are not properly phased

>>530060460
shame, want to get to elementium ore because obsidium is gray to me now but I'm not 80 yet

>>530060410
Class?

>>530059179
What's your name?

>>530058604
>you don't lose your character on death you simply have to do a humiliation ritual to revive it as non hc
>"However, if you fall, you face a choice: Delete your character and start fresh. Or undertake a trial of patience—return to your nearest faction capital at walking speed, with severely reduced stats and no access to flight paths or teleports. Upon arrival, speak to a Chronicler to remove the challenge and continue your journey without a Soul of Iron."
kek, I thoguht the humiliation ritual part was an exaggeration

>>530062320
Imagine dying at 59 on Silithus as alliance. Probably the worst one.

>>530062095
Shut up glownigger

aoi is trying to catfish fmc again

>>530058358
Being prepared to deal with the unexpected is part of the fun. Stuff like saving big cooldowns to really sticky situations or always have a escape route in mind when approaching a group of mobs, etc.
With that said, Epoch's hardcore mode is a bad joke. You can group and trade with non-hardcore character, there is no reason to bother with it.

>>530063276
Is that taken from a different girl? don't see that tatoo from that OF whore.

Indiibros...

>>530020554
And warriors aren't bad in tbc either

>>530063276
What am i looking at?

Is Sylma coming to Naxx today?

I'm coming to Ratchet

Someone in my Epoch guild Discord made this

>>530065396
>gather herbs from dead treants
kino

>>530065042
Yes

>>530065396
>Will be required to take up Skinning/Mining for raids just to push out a little bit more dps
epic...

I am announcing my official retirement from FMC’s Naxxramas progression raids.

I am sorry.

>>530050084
fithy, grud, belwynn all left over drama people caused

>>530064972
>I went fishing on the 4th with my father, it was fun. I caught a yellow perch and a bluegill, but I turned them back to the water.

>>530066543
whats your name on the discord?

>>530055650
You are about to have a rude awakening to reality.

>>530065396
What extra work is that supposed to be?

>>530066716
Therin

>>530067024
most likely +mining enchants like how skinning needs 310 for corehounds and 315 for ony/nefarian etc
the only thing you need for mining is +5 for the obsidian nodes in AQ

Is Gargoth coming to Naxx today?

>>530058053
fighting for quest mobs with them was completely retarded, and it shows the turtle devs are retarded

>>530060410
nub

>>530067396
That makes sense, I'll probably go mining blacksmithing.
>>530067895
where's that from?

>>530067620
No.

Is Jib coming to Naxx today?

>>530066415
>filthy
ACKd because mindbroken by trannies
>grud
ACKd because mindbroken by trannies
>belwynn
ACKd because mindbroken by trannies

imagine

>>530068472
no sylma = no jib

WARRIOR HAS TOO MANY BUTTONS

>>530066716
Jib

>>530059179
what's wrong with jasmine

>>530053687
nigger

I'm just hitting 60, doing some raids, then finding a tbc server.

Nothing else makes sense.

>>530069092
Shut up tranny

>>530067024
Probably some shitty consumable, like a mining dynamite made by an engineer, similar to how leatherworkers need a salt shaker from engineers for their rugged hides, or gnome engineers need a mithril cylinder made by blacksmiths for some recipes

>>530069249
>buying gear in an MMO
cringe af. just play the game

Dude I'm just pissed Gargoth isn't coming to Naxx what the fuck did we give him loot for? Just log in retard

>>530069359
its a fine name for an iranian female, jew

>>530069448
having gold and spending it is playing the game.

Is Zaptuah coming to Naxx tonight?

>>530070196
no point in going when you can join any pug that fullclears and have kara40 spots on speed dial

>>530070443
how do i find and join a naxx full clear pug?

>>530070698
unironically ask jib/ask zap or just get friends on troonwow

>>530070196
He is not even in the guild.

Gargoth log in bud

>>530050005
that was my first pick before i realized undead pally and dwarf shaman will be the most rolled shit on the server.

GARGOTH LOG IN

FELKISS LOG IN

>aoi comes back
>can barely scrape together 20 people
And that is with Juliara/Death taking pity on them, Rainu happens to have time off work, fish/sunethil coming on alts so they can't get blamed afterwards.
Wasn't aoi the glue holding the guild together, what happened?

>>530071965
posting about yourself being a good person isn't equal to being a good person

>>530047994
Seal Twisting is the perfect hybrid tax for Rets
Want to do damage as a hybrid? Better L2P
Without a skill barrier for hybrid DPS, PvP turns into a shitshow, and the populations for specs like Ret always becomes oversaturated

>>530072136
Proofs that I... aoi did that?

>>530071965
Don't forget Pearl told Horn/Kiss to stop logging in because the guild wasn't meeting her "vision" of what it was meant to be initially

>>530071965
aoi is a guild killer not some glue

Gargoth… what’s going on big guy…

>>530072220
It is easy as fuck to do, you can even do it on turtle, once your swing timer is at 0.3s you can switch to SoR and your AA aswell as your SoC proc will apply the SoR onhit damage.
Only issue is that you barely have the GCD to do that.

GARGOTH PLEASE LOG IN

What's the deal with Aoi
She's just a woman
Have you guys not seen a woman in your life? She will not fuck with you anyways

SYLMA LOG IN AND HELP WITH NAXX

>>530072261
What was his vision?
Resorting to naxx carries for ZG?

>>530072537
Yeah twisting is second nature to me, but seeing all these twats complaining on these threads and the Discord is funny
If that alone is a barrier to keep Ret from being oversaturated then that's a good thing

>>530071965
why are you so obsessed with aoi anyways?

>>530072751
The onlyfans prizes look fairly cheap to me, the full service is probably not that much more.

>>530072751
constantly self posting about how nice he supposedly is
catfish people with onlyfans picture