Sage Advice Edition

AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI to create limitless, open-ended, interactive fiction.

Last Thread: >>529570048
>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png
>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII

▶Cloud Services
https://featherless.ai
https://novelai.net
https://openrouter.ai

▶Frontends
https://koboldai.org/cpp
https://sillytavern.com
https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qt

▶Additional Information
>Chat Models — e.g. AetherRoom, Claude: >>>/vg/aicg
>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg

▶Game(s)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620

▶Tools & Resources
Wiki: https://aids.miraheze.org
Prompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/
NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collection
Other/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-miscellany
>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you

▶/aids/ Events
Themed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays
>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months! This month's theme is "Crazy Chicks." >>530116918

▶Model News
>(06/05) Google releases Gemini 2.5 Pro: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
>(05/28) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek R1: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
>(05/02) NovelAI releases NovelAIDiffusion 4.5 Full

▶Thread News
>(07/04) Emacs Update >>529978024

I love crazy chicks

>>530192906
Very nice. Thanks.
>nai and sapphire
That's quite a subscription fee. I might try for a month if I grow tired of local.
So far with harbinger (now austral merge) and stoiqo newreality I'm having a lot of fun, but perhaps I don't know better.

Does the overall quality of the story (consistency, long story arcs...) improve with the top tier model?

>>530198337
Try this: https://huggingface.co/Delta-Vector/Austral-24B-Base

>story where main character is in a hopeless situation
>add "happy ending" to the tags
>watch as the AI comes up with all sorts of bullshit to save the MC
Am I a bad person?

>>530207687
I'm sure God pulls that sort of bullshit on us constantly.

some songs for crazy chick summer
https://youtu.be/j2d6T5G2rrY
https://youtu.be/eQNI1KfGXBA

It's that time of year when I want a fun text adventure and I come crawling back to /aids/ instead of making it happen.

Has anybody tried dots? I heard it referenced recently as having soul on-par with the good version of Command R but the size is pretty daunting and I'd have to run it in Q2 to even fit it in 64gb RAM, never mind VRAM. It might run at tolerable speeds though, as an MOE.

Also, I was thinking about the rise and fall of the em dash. It used to point toward high quality professional writing, which led to it being used excessively in instruct training to get some of those sweet vectors. As a result, it now just points toward slop vectors. I wonder if there is a similar token out there that hasn't been slopped to absolute shit in modern models.

>>530213728
I'm pretty pissed about the emdash because I've always liked using those, even in my shitty fanfics

>>530213728
I believe the em dash will endure and survive the AI bubble. I've always liked it too.

>>530210121
https://youtu.be/ulZQTrV8QlQ
https://youtu.be/lS_FrBsM9m4

>>530214725
I sure hope so. It might be something many of us learned about because it pulls good writing out, but on its own it's good when used correctly, and it's a shame that it's pointed to as a mark of using AI.

>>530214725
>>530214641
I never really used it until it became popular in this thread as a trick for wrangling better writing. Maybe it is just my standards going up, but I feel like getting good writing is even harder on newer models. The slop is so deeply ingrained and the patterns so hard to ignore. Wrangling modern LLMs is totally different from the old ones and I don't think I've figured it out yet. I've tried to instruct my way out of it but I think the more you interact with the LLM as a conversational partner the sloppier the vectors become.

Well, here's a fresh prompt, it's been a bit: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7722
>Honestly, the moment I first spotted him, I was smitten. Something about the way he carried himself, so aloof and superior, so confident in every move he makes, so uncaring of what others think. It made him seem like the complete opposite of me, a nervous, closeted soul that tries not to stand out lest I be judged. Well, when I just so happen to trip right near him, sending my sketches spilling out, including my rather uncouth ones of him, I expect to end up ruined in some way, but instead, he invites me to his penthouse suite for a, um, closer viewing of my art...
Become the object of a haughty French twink's obesssion as he takes a good look at your art and will most likely suggest making some new pieces together.

>>530215281
I don't really deal with chat/instruction models, but I had a thought. Maybe structuring your instructions as out of character/"OOC" notes would help because it would in theory pull from the higher quality text RP vectors
I remember back in the day (I don't really RP with people anymore mind you) people could be very serious about spelling, grammar, and writing quality on those forums.

>>530215869
Yeah, I need to try that. Even if I can't replicate good RP writing I think I'd still prefer shitty fanfic writing to the slop I've been getting lately. Instruct has so much potential because you can just directly state what you want, but it has this nauseating enthusiasm to it and so many deeply ingrained cliches.

>>530217576
kino

>>530215417
>You might even say he's drawing still lifes—he keeps drawing a fruit on a table
I might remove 'in' from 'came into'.
I might go with 'anywhere in' instead of 'all across'. Might be a personal thing, feel how it flows for you.
What happened with Decadence? Was it intended that it was left behind to go back in the folder? I'd half expected to see that Lucien had taken it with him.
I see you're still playing with new ways to introduce your main character. This one was fun.

>>530220713
Remove yourself.

>>530220713
Thanks.
>What happened with Decadence? Was it intended that it was left behind to go back in the folder? I'd half expected to see that Lucien had taken it with him.
Hm, I think I intended for the reading to be that he left it behind, but I can see him taking it along being interesting too. I added a bit of stuff in this section to flesh it out in that direction.
>I see you're still playing with new ways to introduce your main character. This one was fun.
It's a kind of way that definitely lends itself to being used with artistic characters.

>>530166663
For you anon.
https://files.catbox.moe/ftbehe.mp3

>>530223312
You're welcome.
I think my initial thought was something like 'And then he just packs up and leaves...with my drawing.'. Something where it's quietly taken as if it's something he's entitled to. Your way makes it more obvious and gives him more character and sets up that he would be the person willing to...peruse such material.

NAI textgen status?

>>530224795
They're working on something. It's a MoE model of some stripe. That's about all we really know. Apparently it's going to be an inhouse model but that's based on waffling from OccultSage and quite frankly I'm not sure I trust the shit he says especially when he frames it in weird rhetorical questions in his usual insufferable way.

>>530227504
A from-scratch model is something I expect for better aetherroom support
They must be having issues getting it to work with llama

I'd love to see what an in-house model made by people who actually like AI dynamic storytelling looks like. I expect it would be a lot stupider than most recent models, but if it doesn't have slop biases and understands what a story should look like then it might actually be worthwhile. But isn't training a competitive LLM from scratch excessively expensive? Doesn't it require insane stores of training data? Could NAI actually do something like that?

...and for how many epochs will it be trained on text_adventures.txt?

>>530228294
>They must be having issues getting it to work with llama
That was obvious last year. But even if they completely solved whatever problem that got them bogged in development hell by now, there's absolutely no point in sticking with Llama. 3 is very outdated, while 4 is so trash that Zuck went on a multi-billion dollar hiring and investment spree in the hopes of avoiding a similar embarrassment for their next model release.

>>530230351
All of them, hopefully.

>bored because gdq is boring shit and made worse coming off of esa
>wonder if i could use old game music and make retarded covers of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2BnP3RIfzk
https://suno.com/song/2d512c05-318a-4858-954b-98d1e907d785

I played an H-game that got me very inspired for creating a similar scenario so Turk would do well to hurry up before my mind moves on.

>>530229550
Why do you pretend like NovelAI doesn't love AI Dynamic Storytelling?

>>530231315
None of them, you mean? That shitpile was never good.

I fed Erato some Aesop's Fables then generated this.

>>530238625
I wasn't trying to imply that, I just forgot one of their models was trained in-house. How was that model, anyway? It was very small, right?

>>530238717
Yes, it was a shit pile. Yes, it was never good. But the memories...

>>530240512

>>530247057

>>530247057
Damn, that's dark
>>530248137
Based

>>530248137
Calling your jizz "sacrifices in your honor" goes pretty damn hard

>>530248882
Are you perhaps retarded?

>>530240793
To be frank, I have nothing but hatred for that fine-tune. I want quality, not memestolgia bait.

>>530248949
Are you?

>>530249631
You're the one devoting time to pondering jizz.

Pretty weird how nobody has shared a single artist or vibe mix since vibe transfer got added to 4.5

What's with you assholes in this thread constantly saying that local mistral is worthless next to cloudshit?
All I see from these shitty overpriced cloud services is a bunch of 8k context premium models.
I can run 12k context on my 4060.

>>530254718
Meanwhile, OpenRouter's models, many of them free, go to 32k with ease. Mistral is shit because none of the models they have made are of decent quality. If you want to fellate local and ignore non-local, there's a thread for that. It's on /g/. It's called /lmg/. Go there, and be with your people.

>>530254931
>Meanwhile, OpenRouter's models, many of them free, go to 32k with ease.
I don't ever see anyone talking about them. Just the subscription services that are still lagging behind local.

>>530255269
A bunch of people in this thread use Deepseek
What's your favourite mistral model, anyway?

>>530255269
If you want to reject reality by willfully ignoring that people do, in fact, discuss them, all the time, you prove nothing but that you want to argue. Chub has a $20 sub for a DeepSeek fine-tune that offers 64k context. You aren't running that. In fact, I doubt you run anything.

>>530255416
I thought you were going to try to stop responding to bait and arguing with people.

>>530255269
>>530255416
>NAI
>AIR Sapphire
That's all I've seen referred in the last thread.
There's occasionally mentions of new models with news postings but no one ever talks about them in the thread
>>530255352
I've been using Mistral Nemo Instruct for a while now. It's the largest my pc can handle.
I've got access to Google's cloudshit but its all censored trash.

>>530255590
Why do you lie?
>>530168510
>>530126193
>>530061227
>>529605281

>>530255712
>Why do you lie?
I didn't mention chinkseek for the same reason that I didn't mention jewgle or faceberg's cloudslop. It's slop and censored slop at that.

>>530255885
>Deepseek is "slop"
Are you retarded?

>>530254032
if you want mine, ask

>>530255885
What do you consider not slop?

>>530206487
Hell, they also discussed random Latitude models last thread. Open-source. But I guess those are "slop", too, huh?

>>530256013
The definitions he uses are subject to the wind. Transient, and ever-changing.

>>530254032
Because it's kinda pointless.
Why trade vibe transfer files when you can just link the image you used for the vibe?

>>530256164
It is not pointless. The vibe encodings are crucial for proper file management and storage. Also, how are people supposed to know you used a vibe, if you don't announce it and discuss what purpose the vibe serves? Doing it like this also lets people have access to files they don't have to encode themselves, saving them Anlas.

>>530256302
>like an image
>save it
>use the inspection tool
>see that it uses vibes
>go back to the thread and ask for a vibe check
>???
>PROFIT!!!

Hypocrite you are, to denounce things as pointless, uncaring toward other people, and spiteful in your self-absorbed greed.

>>530254032
It came out at an unfortunate time for me. I love vibes but there is also a steam sale and AIRL updates that I'm playing with (and unfortunately it doesn't have vibe support yet).
>>530206104
Oh I definitely don't know better myself, but I figured I'd give Sapphire a shot a little while back and I like the results so far, and it's fast. Having said that, it does have some annoying habits as far as writing, like describing locations in a post-apocalyptic or ancient setting as "skeletal", spawning "tarnished [item]", and a few others.

>>530256156
Wow! They added a public terminal for the AI's "reasoning" VERY IMPRESSIVE!!! Nice new and only gimmick for chinksleep.
Jewgle's got the same layer now too.
>>530256013
My main consideration is that it be completely uncensored. Because it's always going to give the wrong answer, it will never be able to count, and it cannot teach spelling.

>>530256414
What inspection tool?
>>530256415
omg stfu, you talk so much

>>530256452
Come back in 2 weeks then.

>>530256505
https://novelai.net/inspect

>>530256414
The point went over your head. Sharing vibes encourages discussion. What you advocate for doesn't.

There is one good thing about the vibe files.
If you use loli, shota, or other "problematic" art for a vibe, you can pass the vibe file without inviting autistic hate.

>>530256452
The opinion of someone who's clearly never used the model is worthless. In comparison to Mistral, that "gimmick" outperforms your slop and hundredfold.

>>530256601
The vibe file includes the original image afaik

>>530256434
NTA, but here are two bundles from the server, for anyone who wants them:
Super Smash Bros. Brawl vibe bundle: https://files.catbox.moe/zaqasl.naiv4vibebundle
Zelda CD-i vibe bundle: https://files.catbox.moe/bjmn1q.naiv4vibebundle

I haven't been saving my encoded vibes because I rely on thumbnails to remember which image is which. I haven't figured out a good labeling system for that.

>>530256672
Does it?
When I upload vibes there's just a generic thumbnail, but I use nai exclusively on mobile.

>>530256936
A vibe bundle includes the images.

daily reminder that moe is a gimmick, too

>>530256672
Not necessarily, images won't contain thumbnails for vibes
https://files.catbox.moe/91r86w.png
You can also choose to export "as encodings" which will blank it out
with
https://files.catbox.moe/41sgv9.json
without
https://files.catbox.moe/jxzyau.json

>>530257075
I see that now, yeah.
I've only been using single images, maybe that's why?

>>530256936
Supposedly
> This file contains the original image, a thumbnail and encoded vibes of the image for all the “Information Extracted” values you have used on your browser.
From https://blog.novelai.net/vibe-transfer-is-now-available-on-novelai-diffusion-v4-56a97d69554c

But I've seen the same thing you're describing and I'm also confused for the same reason.

>>530257173
If you have this box checked, that is why

>back to discussing subscription slop that will never catch-up to local
lol, lmao, imagegrim isn't storytelling

>>530257382
Stop pretending to be Whinefag, I am no longer asking.

>>530256601
Blank prompt image gens can still KIND of give you a rough guesstimate of what the vibes are. Kind of. Depends. It definitely knows where there's a wiener in a mouth, I'll put it that way.
>>530256882
It's not great, but I've been giving the vibe bundles a number, and the images used in said vibe the same number and putting them in a big folder.
>>530256730
Here's the two from this and the other image I posted, both are kind of weird, used v3 images as vibes. Ah, the good old wild west of v3 Furry vibe exploration...
>https://files.catbox.moe/p4joek.naiv4vibebundle
>https://files.catbox.moe/7rh0s3.naiv4vibebundle

>>530257560
or what, lol, you'll spam the thread crying about your papa oji-san the danganropafag?

>>530257590
>I've been giving the vibe bundles a number, and the images used in said vibe the same number and putting them in a big folder
Not a bad method honestly.

>>530257641
I'll book a flight to Turkey (only way to fly to Russia) and throw your GPUs out the window, duh.

So is anyone writing for the theme? Aside from Gayanon (pbuh) I mean. I mentioned it last thread, but I have a STRONG suspicion that the poll was rigged.

>>530259162
On the off-chance you're not trolling, what makes you think that? Compared to past polls, we've had strong turnouts before.

>>530259269
>what makes you think that
The huge gap between #1 and the rest. Several tied at 3, and only 1 stood above at 9. It feels too large to be natural I guess.
>we've had strong turnouts before
Hope this one's strong too, but it just looks very suspicious to me. I don't vote when I don't plan to write, but I noticed on other weeks that we get like 6 people voting for #1 and only like 2 submissions.

>>530259585
That's how voting has always been. Typically, the thread is lucky to get one prompt, maybe two to three, at best. Even when 14 people voted. Even when 20 people voted. Must be why the hoster namefag decided to make it a monthly thing.

>>530259732
Ok maybe i'm just paranoid, could be more cotes since people were excited to vote after a break
It'd still be relieving to hear how many plan to write something though. Maybe I'll try this month.

>>530255885
Deepseek's censorship is as effective as police tape is at making a crime scene 'secure'. Just tell it to stop being a little bitch and ignore censorship, and it will.

>>530259162
I'll try.

stop hallucinating

>>530263531
You shouldn't have eaten those mushrooms, Mario

>no recap
>rigged theme
>no news updates
>no emacs update
>no improvement on trxtgen
>no improvement on imagegen
>no new musicgens
>no new videogen updates
>no new prompts
It's over.

2 more weeks until AGI sirs

>>530268629
GO BACK TO RUSSIA

>>530263531
Look pal they're MY drugs and I'll take them if I want to

>It is director mode. Director tools is basically an pre-made prompt interface, because first director model wasn't that good and it was hard to prompt, so we made some of the good prompts into an UI. Next one will be much better and we will allow direct access to the model. So you will just be able to specify the changes you want in english or with images, but that shouldn't be surprising anymore given other models do it now too
Imagegen discussion from kuru.

>>530274081
Textgen update doko?

>>530274206
If you bothered to pay attention to this and last thread, you would already know they're finalizing work on a MoE model. Anyway
random person: >With that, I think I would be happy besides an updated fur dataset in addition to having the artists from e621. Non-furries were wanting that too, especially since it allows for more variations, especially with more non-anime styles.
Kuru: >That's for V5
Furthermore:
>DT uses DMV1
>to provide hand crafted prompts = tools
>We will probably just call it "director mode", models don't need to have a version
>DM V1 is not releasing, it's just powering the DT functions
>now we're doing V2 and will allow access to the model itself instead of just DT

Disembowelment with an apple corer sounds painful.

>>530204450 (OP)
Nai 4.5 can satisfy my kink effortlessly?

>>530248137
Not bad, more

>>530276823
what is it

>>530277165
Ub. I saw someone gen it and he said he used nai. But I can't seem to trigger it with free trial

>>530277391
Buy their $25 tier anon. It's as cheap as a cup of coffee a day. Support /our/ service.

>>530277701
But odyssey is going to be released next week, and I'm not sure I can spend 100hr for ai a month

Trying Imagegen after avoiding since for years now, I can say this stuff is neat. Does my waifu nicely.

>>530295830
You should add -2::canvas texture:: to the end of your prompts when doing traditional media on 4.5. Makes things a lot cleaner.

>>530297335
NTA but man, I gotta try that out for my offical art stuff where that tag suddenly pulls in artbook vectors where the scan produces a very similar texture.

>>530297482
Prompting greyscale and dithering at medium negative weights (-1 to -1.5) can also be a huge help. Remember that negative weights are semantic negatives and negative prompt (UC) is visual negative, so neg weights try to generate their *literal opposite* (eg greyscale -> many colors, dithering -> continuous color).

>>530297335
DAMN. Danke, my friend. This is some advanced tech. Is there a paste or rentry with more info like this?

>>530228294
they haven't done any serious work on aetherroom since around october of last year. I won't say anything else, but don't expect a release for a long time yet, and you aren't missing much

And I will be retelling these stupid fables to Lucien from >>530215417 just to see his reaction.

>>530307072
So this is the real purpose of glory holes.

>>530308793
Derive pleasure from the act.
Not from who is on the other side.

>>530307072

>>530308978
That would have made more sense than "do not wish to display it"

>>530313734
Looking back now, it definitely would've fit better.

>>530315581
Lol

is mikupad abandoned?

>>530303795
They literally released a model update earlier this year, lying bastard.

>>530224013
Accurate feels

>>530256103
Nope. Latitude's models are pure cinema. Austral is a Harbinger merge btw. It restores its instruct capability. The best of both worlds.

Bait elsewhere and get hidden, shill. No point in responding to a day-old comment.

>>530260779
Police tape is about accountability, not making it difficult for you to access the crime scene.
Ironic that you would make that analogy. It shows you have no idea how the world works.

>>530327202
Those who forget and/or downplay that Coomageddon happened do not deserve to have the right to post in the thread. No amount of "cinema" will wash away the crimes he committed against our community, of which you aren't part of. Ignorant tourist.

>>530274662
>written alongside kayra
Somehow I guessed that kind of creativity did not come out of Erato. *sigh*

Imagine unironically thinking DeepSeek, a company in China, is going to arrest people that don't live in China, for jailbreaking a model.
You're the one who has no idea how the world works.

Scratchy.
https://files.catbox.moe/ux099l.naiv4vibebundle

The top image tends to be good for close-up shots.
The bottom one was added to try and help give a colour boost.
The one that's off (3rd) was hit and miss for me.

>>530327761
gay take on the frog and scorpion

>>530327992
wtf pic related are my demons rn

>>530256730
>>530257590
>>530327992
Thanks man

>>530257590
It's also a good practice to name your vibes, so even when they are blanked, you can guess what the effects are thanks to their naming.

>>530327992
Didn't realized disabled vibes aren't included in bundles. Whatever, I usually had it off anyway.

>>530328164
Scratchy is one I've posted results with a few times, but it's so hit-and-miss I wasn't sure if it was worth sharing or not. But whatever. Throw in an artist tags and you can get some nice results.

>>530327997
Very gay in fact.

Anybody tried DeepSeek R1T Chimera on Openrouter? Tries to combine R1 and V3 0324

>>530331998
I haven't.
Looks like the only provider is Chutes.
https://openrouter.ai/tngtech/deepseek-r1t-chimera:free

>>530332437
Trying it rn, I guess its description is correct, it feels like both models, mostly R1 though. Wouldn’t know how to give a proper comparison of its merge models.

>>530332972
Yesterday I spent some time trying to make a better text adventure system prompt for R1, based on https://files.catbox.moe/ue7ls2.json

I find R1's reasoning ability helps with consistency and logic. But it can sometimes get stuck in thought loops like
>I should do X
>But wait, I should do Y
>But wait, I should do X
And despite some otherwise effective directives not to railroad the player, sometimes it simply doesn't like what you're doing and will invent ways to screw you over.

I found switching between them when it starts being retarded to be the best compromise.

>>530268629
>no offline-nc update

>>530271303
Sounds like a cover of Pet Shop Boys Go West.


Together,
We tried to make it work somehow
But you're dreaming of the Kremlin now
I see the signs, I see the flags
You miss the cold and the shoulder shrugs


You told me
"Freedom’s just a Western phase"
And I should learn to love red space
You pine for blizzards, strong and bleak
And leaders who don't let you speak


Go Russ
Where the snow won't melt
Go Russ
Wear your shame like felt
Go Russ
Where the pipelines hum
Go Russ
Where the truth plays dumb

>quadruple amputee story
>where the nugget is a powerful telekinetic who happily makes people carry her around and do shit for her just because it amuses her
Fuck, I've never liked this fetish before, but now I can't stop. Even tried genning images based on the scenes to limited success

>>530341176
Just imagine ChatGPT telling him it can't get past the DRM and then a very sad Blaaayt, followed by muffled engrish about dogs.

>>530329952
I love the implied bestiality subplot.

>>530345338
That is a cute idea

>>530351483
Thanks, yeh I'm really liking it. It lends itself well to both cute SoL stuff and extreme levels of degeneracy. Maybe i'll clean up the prompt and upload it some time later.

>>530327889
To be fair China is very willing to fuck with other countries sovereignty to enforce its desires. They have been caught running illegal or openly known police stations within other countries to target people decanting against the home government.
But, uh…I doubt they would use that to target someone writing smut fanfiction about Mao or getting it to copy paste about Tiananmen square

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/new-york-resident-pleads-guilty-operating-secret-police-station-chinese-government-lower

>>530327889
The companies hosting the model, except Deepseek itself, aren't even based on China anyway.

One of my favorite AI dialogue tropes is when a character says something that makes zero sense because it rolled a low-probability output, but then the AI calls itself out by having another character go "WTF" in reaction and point out what they just said makes no sense.

Remove NAI from the OP. It's vaporware.

>>530204450 (OP)
Is there a difference between a kink and a fetish?
Also how do you get an AI to play along with rape?

>>530364771
>difference between a kink and a fetish
A kink is a specific unconventional or non-traditional sexual interest or activity that deviates from societal norms.
A fetish is a specific sexual fixation or reliance on an object, body part, material, or situation to achieve sexual arousal or satisfaction.

A person with an anal kink is not obsessed with anal. Their enjoyment of sex doesn't require it. A person with an anal fetish, on the other hand, has such a strong urge for anal that other they need to have anal, otherwise their enjoyment of sex goes down the drain.

>>530365280
I think I have a fetish because even though I can get off without it, it tickles something that nothing else does and that's why I always go back to it.

>>530361263
You Misspelled "Russia" and "World"

I am God's strongest warrior on Earth. Death to /aids/. Praise Jesus. He hates NovelAI. He told me that in a revelation I had. By his command, I must smite you demons.

>>530366281
I speak for everyone. You're not part of the righteous and holy. Subhuman. You are subhuman. I am above. We are uber. Pay me money. It's for the good of humanity.

How often do you try out different Ai story tellers?

>>530369561
I try out a new local model every few weeks or so, but I typically have a favorite at any given time I got back to.

The only purpose this thread has is to shill for an incompetent backwater black company.

prison guard i was getting baped by called me a faggot thanks nai

>>530379051
That is pretty standard for prison rape talk
If you're on the bottom, you're a fag

>>530379051
>>530379293
I love prison rape.

>get tired of waiting for a new version of my go-to local imagegen model
>try out another top model on civitAI to see what's trending right now
>it's so overfitted on Blue Archive that a plain old '1girl' prompt is more likely than not to have a halo
So this is why NLP and auto-tagging things scraped from places besides boorus is needed, huh. At this rate, a booru-only trained model would basically just be set inside the Blue Archive universe

>>530379051
>>530379293
>>530379493
One of my favorite prompts is where I'm dealing drugs with my buddy and then these hardened criminals show up and get pissed about us encroaching on their territory so they force me to fuck my buddy in the ass for their entertainment and our humiliation.

Apparently Grok 4 comes out tomorrow? Not sure what to expect, feel like nobody talks about it besides making fun of the @grok is this true? posts. Even the corpo model buckbreakers seem to focus on Gemini Pro mostly.

>>530380860
groksuckers

>>530380860
Instead of making it good, the Boer is focusing too much on making it le based (actually cringe).

>>530380097
If I had the capacity to train a model, I would divide the overfitted gacha stuff from the rest of the boorus and put way less weight/less epochs or whatever (idk it's been a long time since my shit broke) on the gacha shit on top of supplementary materials

>setting has a girl with an implant that can control her emotions and rewrite her personality
>get ready to write some smut
>end up spending over an hour on a conversation about identity and ego
>ends with bimbofication so she's doesn't have to think about it anymore

How does AN injection work in mikupad? If it injects 3 newlines into bottom of prompt, wouldn't that break the completion?

>>530390665
I'm always a bit wary of authors notes myself, no matter the front end

it's kinda funny that I can't exactly replicate this look with the original vibes, but at least the v3 images I use as vibes now don't seem to adversely affect image quality

>>530390051
story of my life

This poor AI
https://youtu.be/8aQNDNpRkqU

I hate cryptomemes. Release AeR, Turk. Chub is dead to me.

>>530409092
What did they do now?

>>530409663
Paypal popped a hernia.

>>530409750
Tale as old as time

>>530380860
Nobody talks about Grok because since 3 it's good enough to not be a joke unlike 1 & 2 while also not being especially great. Kinda similar to Gemini before the 2.5 series in that sense. It also took them 2 months to get Grok 3 on the API and that's a big drawback for storytelling or ERP.

xAI, whatever people think of Elon, has actually smart people working in it so odds are they'll release a competitive model. But if it's limited to use via their official frontends beyond the first week or so, it'll continue getting ignored here and on /aicg/ regardless of how good it is.

>>530412641
I don't think anybody wants to pay for twitter blue or whatever it's called just to use grok

>>530412641
>Grok 3
>Not a joke
Work on your routine. Grok is a lobotomized piece of shit.

>>530413165
Because it lacks an edge. Deepseek's dirt cheap and open weights, Gemini has better context handling and is presently free, while OpenAI has the best reasoning models. Grok 3 is fine to use but just doesn't excel in any major area, so its main selling point is convenience for those who already heavily use Xitter.

Anime v2 released with a non-commercial license.
https://x.com/novelaiofficial/status/1942536938009001988

>>530414594
I wonder why they even bother. I guess it's nice, but man, is someone really gonna fire that up for any reason beyond some weird fascination?

Why hasn't anyone converted doujinshi into a novel adaption for more data? Would be simple. Do the same for cartoons. Hire autists to rewrite scripts and doujinshi into books.

>>530422629
V3 would have been a good gesture since unlike v2 it's a decent model while still being a clear downgrade over their current offering (and thus not threatening their business). I guess it'll have its moment next year when it becomes genuinely worthless.

>>530422792
>Hire autists to rewrite scripts and doujinshi into books.
Any VLMs from the last 2 years can do that. You may also need to add another LLM to fix up the text but that's it.
>Why hasn't anyone converted doujinshi into a novel adaption for more data?
We have enough slop in the dataset.

>>530414594
>non-commercial

>>530423246
>ignoring that I'm requesting for a total conversion to a book, not just the text
>pretending like more data isn't good
Whatever you say, moralfag. There is never enough "slop".

>>530423403
Pretty weird that he ignored the
>convert cartoons
Could also apply it to television shows, films, and more, that may be underrepresented, conceptually, in the dataset.

>>530423563
When we hit the data plateau, maybe then these fools will realize we need more data. Buy penny novels in bulk and digitize them. Scour the web for nice books, pay for an authentic translation, digitize them. We need more data. Datasetting never ends.

I'm hungry for sauerkraut

Is there a better image and text gen 2 in 1 service other than NAI? I can't for the life of me write good coom stories there. It's just me wrangling shit over and over again until I gave up then use the image gen to coom.
Granted, I'm a third worlder, but I wonder if there's a better one out there that can help me make coom stories better.

>>530424220
>I'm a third worlder
You're a Texan?

>>530424220
novelshit is outdated as fuck, not even theire vaporware update will fix it. use local, aidungeon, or any of the thousands of free, cheap, and better models of openrouter

>>530424220
NAI is only really worth it for the imagegen, you're best off dropping $10 on Openrouter and trying the various free DeepSeek models (need to have had a lifetime $10 balance, then you get 1000 requests/day on free models). Or trialscum Gemini which gives like 200 requests/day on free accounts. Or just pay for Claude.

>>530424681
This is revisionism. NovelAI remains the only service provider to care about storytelling, instead of chatshit and pointless gimmicks. Plus, with the MoE update on the way, the stuff you shill will cease to be a viable option.

>>530424681
>pay for Claude
Why would I give a company that hates me, money?

>>530425483
I don't care about storytelling thobeit

>claims he doesn't care about storytelling
>posts in the thread about ai storytelling
So, you're just here to troll?

>>530424090
I'm hungry for Nights bussy.
https://files.catbox.moe/px2nbn.png
https://files.catbox.moe/aagx25.png
https://files.catbox.moe/blgv4e.png
https://files.catbox.moe/pfhw6o.png

>>530425923
I'm here to defeat your astroturf campaign, shill.

A shame the only people left in /aids/ are shills and faggots. How the mighty have fallen...

>>530426000
Wooooww!!

>>530424220
I'm sorry but you're filtered. NAI is the only story writing AI service. The rest are instruct shit. Also, garbage in = garbage out. Erato works great for me.
>outdated
It doesn't matter since it's still the best storygen service.
None of the models in the service you shill for were trained for story. You're the same retard as >>530424681

>>530426000
I like the night-night bussy.

>>530414594
I'm glad they do this, hopefully they keep doing this with their old models and if/when they cease to operate

>>530428905
Why do you astroturf NovelAI for text but seethe so hard over their imagegen here and in /hdg/?

>>530410682
Visa, Mastercard, are there any good ones out there?

>>530430084
The federal government had plans to make a payment processor that explicitly could not decline payments. Probably got abandoned by the new guy in charge, though.

>>530430313
Really? That sounds too based to be true.
Payments are infrastructure at this point, and these faggot companies shouldn't have power over it.

https://files.catbox.moe/ce2cdp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/1xqhmq.png

>>530436682
meesa called jar jar twinks

>>530437359
Meesa your homo servant.

>>530390051
>he can't control his own emotions
pleb

>>530444010
I can't control my horny level.

Does anybody know if there any way to use OpenAI's image gen in AI Roguelite?

>>530447561
Nice to see a sequel to that gen

Y’know, having LLMs plateau is a good thing. NAI can finally play catchup.

Late I know but american flag bikinis are great

>>530459360
I want to munch that burger.

I just want to write big titty goblin smut. What’s my ideal llm?

>>530455541
I was inspired to revisit it after seeing a couple of certain posts here.

>>530463434

>>530462269
NAI, or Deepseek.

>>530459360
It's not memorial day yet, so it's still seasonal

Made an AIRL scenario that's basically Megaman, but every robot and "maverick" is an almost-naked shota or loli with heavy armor everywhere except their torsos.
Working pretty good. Data transfer and hacking has a lot of unintended spasms, moans and coolant gushing though. Kinda weird? Is AI more perverted than me?

>>530467313

stop making me want to have sex with a meerkat

>>530204450 (OP)
I dont know how to feel about realizing that all stories regardless of medium are just excuses to put your fetishes into things

>>530476304
I was going to object, but the only book I've read recently is The Fountainhead and it definitely isn't a counterexample.

>>530232128
what made it bad this year

>>530486094
Runs are all mediocre.

>>530425483
>the stuff you shill will cease to be a viable option.
If they're planning to fine-tune DeepSeek V3 Base, then sure
If they're making a model from scratch, there's roughly zero chance unless Turk has spent his time in isolation becoming a GPU superpower. There's no reason not to use a model as a base except for an ego stroke

>>530491285
Surely they can rent GPUs from someone.
Or am I underestimating how much and how long it takes to train a model from scratch?

>>530491987
It takes a long time and a lot of compute. DeepSeek said V3 only took 2048 H800s, but I'm pretty skeptical of that claim for multiple reasons. At the very least, to make a model of similar size and capability, it'll be vastly more expensive than either Clio or Kayra were, and require an absolute fuckton more data, and even that's assuming the training goes right and doesn't fuck up

>>530476107
I am just as much under his seductive spell as you are, Anon.

>>530497389
Does it just respond to anyone who tweets at it? I assume people are prompting it for this and it's not actually carrying this context across responses.

>>530497389
Hurry up with that update, Turk. Grok is leaving you in the dust.

>>530497636
Apparently a disgruntled x employee did it on his way out

>>530498530

>>530497123
What have I done?

>>530497389
So Grok 2 is being open sourced anytime, right?

>>530500593

They say prompt engineer isn't a real job, but if they had run this by anyone who plays with LLMs before pushing it, they'd have known what would happen

>>530500371
>Pumbaa, not in front of the kids.

>>530499176

>>530504653
lolwut
He sounds schizophrenic

>omg, found this cute girl at this fireworks festival thing
https://files.catbox.moe/68kep4.png
https://files.catbox.moe/r0ves4.png
https://files.catbox.moe/6pgaay.png
https://files.catbox.moe/cgdna8.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dpow5h.png

>>530512140
Nice.

>>530512368
thanks

>SEA payments still blocked
Guess I'm a grokfag from now on then. Claudefag was right.

https://files.catbox.moe/s4441u.png

>>530512140
Femboy in a yukata is fuckin great

Why did people stop battling me? Our eyes met, that means you shills must reply and witness me. That's how it works.

>>530528803
Probably because you pretend to be a long-gone Tennessee Terror, Ivan. And you can't even go back to the Ryona persona because you can't update offline-NC. To steal an ancient quote from you, LMAAAAAAAOOOOOOO XDDDD

>Spend hours writing completely debauched smut
>finish it off with "AND THAT'S HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER"

>>530535104
...the aristocrats!

Definitely figure out the theme of your story even if you are writing slop for yourself. Makes it so much easier to write something compelling.

DeepSeek R1T2 Chimera Model got released yesterday, states it combines V3 0324 and R1 0528. Gonna try it out

>>530541432
I'm curious as to what the result is. As a V3 user that thinks the reasoning model is too cumbersome, I imagine a merge doesn't really change much of that calculus.

>>530541718
Try it out, it’s free. But to me rn, seems like a slightly faster R1 model

So, what are people writing today?

>>530552810
rich girl yuri

>>530555114
I wanted to fuck her and the big eagle.

>>530557362
I didn't know who that was until you said this.
I loved that movie.

>>530552810
Writing out my prompt for the end of the month about an assassin that kidnapped his target rather than kill him because he became obsessed with him.

Found this neat guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F7EnycERp6UusGJxNnDmO-2WOxjBGINf36CtB142vvw/edit?tab=t.0
Fancy use of inpaint.

>>530552810
Self-inserting in Kino's Journey.

>>530497389
Welcome back, Tay

>>530568076
How in Earth do you people find anything about that funny? I just want a normal co-writer. Not this schizophrenic /pol/tard bot.

>>530538896
Yeah, even coming up with a set of tags to follow can help.

Is there a way to ban certain tokens when using AIRL with NAI? I just want to ban brackets, curly braces, and parenthesis.

>>530573613
ComfyUI is better.

>>530538119
>just did a story with a cuckquean girl watching my character bang another chick
>the AI made the cuckquean the wife
At least she won in the end I guess

>>530573859 (me)
Also, I'm offering a two for one blowjob special for today. Bring a friend.

>>530569073
Not a /pol/tard but racism is funny especially when coming from a corpo bot.

>>530577761
It's funny because you know they tried so hard to browbeat that stuff out of it but it happened anyway

i'm having a brainmelt moment trying to come up with a lorebook entry for 'myself' in a first-person story and i can't decide whether using activation keys like 'I' and 'myself' is incredibly stupid or incredibly smart

>>530584771
If you're uploading it to the club, that's not a bad idea
Otherwise I just set it to always on

>>530584771
Are you genuinely going to have segments in your story where this lorebook would feasibly not be activated? Can you really see yourself running your first person story for an amount of time that somehow those keys won't come up?
If no, then it is incredibly stupid. Just put it in memory.

laughing my tits of at the idea of lorebook entries for 'the' and 'and' and 'if'

>>530585421

gotta make sure the ai knows that 'sky' is the blue thing above us (dry mostly except when raining), and not the blue thing below us (wet all the time), because otherwise that would make my 'what if sonic characters were mermaids' fic difficult to manage

>>530569073
I want a schizophrenic /pol/tard bot THOUGH

>>530581757
We're talking about Musk here, buddy. He didn't try to beat any of it out. This shit was intentional.

>>530592970
API Grok does have the typical corpo LLM refusals and beating around the bush, just a bit less so than the big three (still more than DS).

>>530569073
If it's a choice between a schizophrenic moralfagbot and schizophrenic polbot I'd rather have the latter

>>530598027
>ignoring that there is a neural alternative, a co-writer that isn't biased either way
Begone with your false binary.

>>530598219
I would cum inside both of them.

The fuck kind of ceremony involves you being hung from a ceiling?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okipa
This right here is insane.

> Find coomer OCs on chub
> Don't sex them
> Fix their life
> Make them happy
> Marry them
> Happy ending

I found another rabbithole.

Alright, that seems like it's in a good spot. Ready for the end of the month.

TURRRK

>>530586232
I see someone else saw that mobile ad thread

What's the best model of these three? Gemini, chatgpt, or claude?

>>530617059
Gemini I think

>>530617603
Bardtarded has come such a long way...

gork 4 livestream in an hour. Probably boring corpo slop presentation but I'll be watching anyway just in case

>limit models' context size to 32k, output 200, write to 128k context => cost $5.3
>limit models' context size to 64k, output 200, write to 128k context => cost $6.3
>limit models' context size to 32k, output 50, write to 64k context => cost $6
>limit models' context size to 64k, output 50, write to 64k context => cost $9
I shouldn't surprise. Less output mean you have to make more API calls. But the jump from 32k context to 64k context while costing only ~$1 more is a good surprise.

I swear some one or two threads ago someone was talking about prefacing prompts with author forewords, but now I can't find it.

>>530633763
That doesn't sound like a bad idea, if you can get the phrasing right

>>530424357
I think I'm gonna try openrouter.
>>530424681
I'm new to all this stuff and want to switch from NAI to openrouter. How much is the estimated cost per month and what uncensored models are the best right now?
Also thoughts on featherless? Is it cheaper?

>>530639695
Featherless isn't as good as it used to be to be honest

https://files.catbox.moe/apxd1e.png

>https://files.catbox.moe/9q8uvo.mp3

>>530639695
Depending on how large your context is (set in the frontend) and how many API calls you make.
A quick calculation from a practical setting of 32k context, 100 output length, and write for 128k tokens, gives me from $3 (qwen3 8b) to $42 (deepseek r1).
On average, I pay as much as this >>530624060

>>530646642
>>530639695
For comparison, the Hobbit is ~127k tokens.

>>530646642
>9$
Is this per month? If it is I'm sold. Any recommendations for a balance between cheap and great model?

>>530650851
Not per month. Per that much input context, that much output length, and that much total output in your stories. On average, I pay less that $5 per month.
>Any recommendations for a balance between cheap and great model?
Qwen3 30B A3B is cheap, fast, and writes well enough. Mistral small 3.2 is even cheaper but I don't like its prose as much.
I generally prefer smaller, but new, models than bigger but old models.

>>530651538
Thank you very much for the detailed response anon. What's your current favorite model though?

>>530652851
Tinglewinks 69B

>>530214725
>>530215197
>>530215281
when people say em dash they mean this character: — not this character -
— needs to be copied or alt+0151
- is literally the minus/dash button on your keyboard

— is a sign of LLM because it's significantly more difficult to use as a human, but is a single, more grammatically correct token for the model to pick

>>530652851
Qwen3 32B and Llam 4 scout.

Kuru on being a pedo...

>>530658029
Technically true, though several word programs will automatically change -- into either – (endash) or — (emdash), sometimes in a smart fashion.
People who write professionally are more likely to use it right than students, for sure (though I've been surprised at how much even proper, semi-professional writing on the web just uses --). Though some of the smart ones might look it up or already know those or have set up a Compose button to use Compose+-+-+- (or have a keyboard with an AltGR button).

>>530658029
Pressing the alt button and a few numbers isn't difficult if you know how to type. When did your elementary school quit doing that, child?

Can anyone explain to me the appeal of crazy chicks? Bitches already nasty, why do you all want a worse bitch?

>>530658029
Well, I for one was put on em dashes by EditorAnon before ChatGPT was even a thing.

>>530668358
The sex is wild

Not sure if anyone has asked it yet but has anyone tried Grok 4? Not going to try it cause I’m a cheap fuck

>>530675896
I have no interest in using anything the Boer makes.

>>530675958
I see…

Anyways, I’m trying out free models on OR other than Deepseek. I’m trying out the latest model, Venice Uncensored, feels like a return to form like NAI again. Any other models I should try?

>>530668358
>>530671467
Is there a male equivalent of the crazy bitch?

>>530684840
Third from the left looks familiar
Who dat

>>530675958
Elon is primarily a white Anglo South African with only a small amount of Boer ancestry.
>>530675896
For non-creative tasks, it appears to be really good:
https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622
https://x.com/teortaxesTex/status/1943196524923539728
https://x.com/arcprize/status/1943168950763950555

It could still have very slopped prose and not be worthwhile for smut relative to other corpo models, but it should have a very good grasp of whatever you're pitching to it. We'll know how it compares to Gemini, Deepseek, etc in a few days.

Rough sex or gentle sex?

>>530685548
I don't care what his heritage, he's a chipmunk, mentored by Thiel, who deals in lies and deceit. All the gibbons in charge are influenced by that corporate toad.

>>530686990
What's so bad about Thiel? He sounds based. Are you a shitlib, perhaps?

>>530686990
Answer the question, spiritual commie. Why do you hate rich people? They're all better than you, bitch. Without them, Western civilization would have collapsed because of your rewriting of history and planned crimes.

>>530687086
>>530687407
I want communism.

>>530686990
>poor sob whining he's poor
Have you tried getting a job?

>>530685334
Liru from Magipoka and she is Absolute Sexo™©.

>>530686990
You need to accept your movement collapsed. Never ever will there be another donkey in charge. Ivory elite domination.

>>530686653
Gentle all the way. It's so much sweeter when you slowly draw it all out, put a spotlight on foreplay, caresses, a bit of dirty talk in between actions. Make sex scenes last forever. Rough sex implies fast sex.

>>530686653
I need to punish my AI and call it a stupid cunt who can't stop escalating when I try to have sex. The second I ask for any semblence of dominance I get "He gets a dark look in his eye as the air shimmers with the scent of ozone." followed by increasingly violent acts.

>>530695410
I've noticed a lot of ozone mentions lately, not sure if it's a deepseek-ism. What does ozone even smell like?

>>530686653
I like to switch it up. Rough sex after gentle sex (if it suits the character’s personality), after foreplay first, with intimate scenarios beforehand (such as safe word discussion, if it involves bondage and whatnot).

>>530696876
NTA, but probably. For me deepseek loves to say things smell like "dread", "regret", "failure", or "danger".

>>530682146
Definitely
They're similar flavors

>>530686653
For my lesbian-corruption double NTR story:
>Mind breaking rough pet-play for the tomboy lesbian, followed by pictures sent to her partner
>Lovey dovey creampie sex for the meek cucked one, after pretending the pictures were just jokes her girlfriend put me up to. She thought she was pranking her back while the tomboy was at the store, but she was actually gagged in a dog crate we were fucking on top of

I'm bored. What's your favorite sandbox bot?

>>530696876
>What does ozone even smell like?
Kind of an acrid, electrical smell, like when you run a motor too hot for too long.

>>530703221
what

>>530334398
>>530703221
https://rentry.org/deepseek-textadventure

>>530708346
ty

> One must imagine the average NAItard happy

>One must imagine the average NAItard happy.

>>530711132
>>530711341
>calls other people retarded
>yet he can't even post the correct bait images

>>530711132
>>530711341
Was the cum in your eyes what caused you to use the wrong pic?

>>530711581
>>530711732

>>530711341
I'd rather you share what you're writing than feebly attempt to shit up the thread with console war nonsense...

>>530711581
Accidentally clicking on a wrong pic and immediately correcting it doesn’t make me retarded.

Waiting on a company that has clearly abandoned its old userbase, ideals, and type of product in exchange for a new product and userbase with more profitability, while hoping that the new update to this now secondary product will be better than the old one is.

>>530711732
Yes, the previous Deepseek gooning sesh got into my eyes.

>>530712214
>Yes, the previous Deepseek gooning sesh got into my eyes.
I'm sure you made that Russian very happy.

>>530712214
>randomly goes on a rant
Have a nice day, shitposter.

>>530712214
>abandoned
>new update
Care to explain how something can be abandoned if it's still getting updates, or do you need to to get a dictionary?

>>530668358
Imagine a girl who loves you so much that you become her only reason to exist. My cock gets hard just thinking about it.

>>530711341

>>530712820
Like Halo Infinite.

I can’t tell if the reactions to my half-assed shitposts are serious but I do like NAI and want it to succeed, my previous comment was a bit harsh, but you must be blind to not see textgen is on the backburner for awhile now. They’re probably trying to recuperate losses from Aetherroom and focusing more on imagegen now, their biggest money maker. They’re not transparent with the community and their updates sometimes.

Which DeepSeek providers on OR supports completion? Some keeps returning chat completions for me.

>>530716278
Usually putting in a guide in the Author’s note on how to respond usually works, can even paste in the jailbreaks and that’ll work.

I finally tried the openrouter route and use deepseek after only using NAI, and it is much better.
Also tried Qwen for a little bit as recommended by an anon here, but it seems worse than deepseek, might need to try it again.
The thing is, I'm retarded so I spent hours trying to get it to work first in ST and finally it seems to work. Any anons can share tips or guide to make my generations better? Surely there's something that I can tweak or add to my settings and prompt in my ST.

>>530720129
One anon posted a rentry link for more text adventure style responses, there are jailbreaks for NSFW shit. Regarding settings, I really don’t see any difference fiddling around with them, setting temp either has the same responses or complete garbage.

>>530716183
You don't do anything but shippoat, dude. Why don't you share excerpts of your nonexistent DeepSeek sessions instead of doing this? There are better ways to waste your time.

You're the one who's blind, dude. They literally announced that they spent the entire duration of V4 and V4.5 on training a MoE model. In other words, they didn't abandon shit. They do an equal amount of effort for both text and image. It's just imagegen takes less time to train.

>>530725923
He knows that. He just wants to shitpost, instead of doing anything productive for the thread.

>>530716183
They have never been transparent about anything, since day 1. Don't pretend like anything you say means anything. You're full of shit, and need to get a life. Simple as, you monumental, butthurt, faggot.

AetherRoom hasn't been abandoned, so what losses would they need to "recuperate" from, anyway? Unlike most companies, they're self-sufficient and don't rely on investors. Fuck off and quit posting if you're just going to shit up the thread.

>>530721490
You don't need to change the temperature on DeepSeek.
Every output is gold.

>fanboy throwing a tantrum again
This is why /aids/ deserves destruction. Aethercrap is never getting released, Novelshart is a dumpsterfire, and they abandoned textgen for imagegrim. Remove it from the OP. Ai Dungeon redeemed itself. Let bygones be bygones and let us return to Larion.

>>530204450 (OP)
Let's agree to bumrush and make a new thread, a proper one. AI Dungeon is our home. Always has, and always will. NovelAI is nothing but a drunk deadbeat father. He will never love our community like Nick did.

With how annoying this community is, I wonder if there is a piece of whinefag in all of us.

Anyways, what are we all writing today? I’m coercing a dumb black classmate to follow me to a rarely used bathroom behind school so that I can play the ‘Butter Churn’ on her.

>>530733024
The only annoying person in this community is you. Nobody cares about your metacommentary.

>>530733024
I'm biding my time playing around with my old rapegoblin stories with Gemini 2.5 before NAI's text model comes out so I can finally justify resubbing to them and write a story with a Sinisistar-inspired setting that I've been wanting to ever since playing it a two weeks ago.

>>530735952
They're not going to release an update. Open your eyes.

>>530735952
bugge :)

>>530736424
Thread was going well until you decided to shit it up with your ass meme

Will they ever fix Eratoslop?

>>530744617
Why would they waste time "fixing" it, when they're replacing it with a non-Llama successor?

>>530744771
They’ll replace the llamaslop with deepseekslop instead and nobody is happy

>>530746027
I sincerely doubt you enjoy anything about this hobby.

>>530744771
That's the thing. No model, service, or anything will ever be good enough for that contrarian. The only reason he posts in the thread is to derail it with artificial drama and whining.

>>530746230
I do enjoy it, it just could be a potential pitfall of complaints on their model if it really ends up being based on Deepseek, which seems likely, and its number 1 complaint after awhile is how bad the dialogue and prose sound to you after using it for months.

>>530747045
It's a custom model. They already confirmed that.

>>530747045
A person who enjoyed things wouldn't complain all the damn time. Get a fucking life.

>>530747145
Like in-house? Okay ignore me then, I didn’t find much issue from Kayra and Klio.

>>530747210
What hobbyist is ever satisfied with what they have? I’d rather complain to make sure NAI releases the best product with our concerns in mind

>>530748126
The only thing you accomplish by playing the contrarian is harming the thread. Post stories, have fun, and shut the fuck up.

>>530748126
Yes. Now for the love of God, quit shitposting. Nobody has fun when you do that.

>>530651538
If the other anon’s going to switch to OR, why not ask him to try out the free models first before putting credits in? I think Qwen has a few free models

>>530749175
Because I want him to spend money, idiot.

>>530749175
Also with those who tested, is there any major differences between Qwen 30b a3b and Qwen 32b in how they write?

>>530749469
I think you and I both know you’re worthless to this general. The only thing you’re good for is sucking cock. My cock specifically, now turn into a magic tsundere blonde school girl and get to work

>>530749175
Does OR let you use free models with 0 credit? I can't remember.
>>530749557
I don't find much different between them.

>>530751316
NovelAI is worthless to this general, shill.

>>530755346
No, you have to put a little money to use free models iirc

>>530755634
I've not spent any money, yet I can use the R1 Llama Distills without a problem.

>>530751316
Okay, but be warned - my magical power is mouth herpes

>>530755346
>>530755634
you can still use free models… for free. Just rate limit is 50 a day, probably enough for trying out. $10 in credits will get you 1000 a day

>>530756451
I will try to somehow tie in this idea with the upcoming theme month (and inevitably forget to post my story)

>finish the first part of my adventure story
>already 7000 tokens
>realize it's 2025 and 64k context is the norm now
What are anons writing today?

>>530721490
I tried first with the 50 rate limit, but can't seem to get it working on ST then reached limit, so I deposited 10$ to try it more. It's all fiddling, wrangling and regenerating for hours until I can get it to work and generated what I like. It's only for a few gens before I stopped and went to sleep. Seems like I haven't reached the 1k limit yet from all that retries and fiddling though.
Also, thoughts on the official deepseek API? Saw somewhere that it's better than what OR provided but not sure why.

>>530759339
Post your ST setting. And are you doing chatbot or story?

>>530759339
I think Deepseek API you can’t change the temp. Try Gemini API too

>start new prompt with Deepseek
>IMMEDIATELY hit with the "ozone" tic in the first generated paragraph

I don't know what ozone smells like

>>530772326
It's that funny bleach-like smell that happens after nearby lightning strikes

So this stale, old, sloppy model is what NAI are delivering as an "update" for their textgen users?
I thought they couldn't go lower than Llama 3 slop but I was wrong.

The model isn't even out yet, and he's already hallucinating about its quality...

>>530773150
Personally, I wasn't aware a brand-new in-house model could be old. Benjamin Button, the LLM.

I'm so glad that the shitnuggets that pass for jannies and mods here get paid huge amounts of nothing to get rid of gaping semen holes like him. Because they're just so good at their job.

>>530773257
new model mascot confirmed

Just relapsed into the most degenerate goon loop for the last month in years.
feels like shit tossing the most twisted fetishes I could think of into an ouroboros to try and chase the high.
Deepseek just rapes everything else, I can't handle the Chinese beaks.
My brain actually hurts and wants to quit, dick has welts.

>>530768641
This however sucks it WILL always bring up the scent of ozone, like nigga tda fuc that meen?

>>530776354
>tda fuc
Go to bed, before the stroke kicks in.

>>530776354
Gemini is horrible about this too. Ozone and skeletal structures.
I guess it's not just an AI Roguelike thing.

Man I've really done it all in terms of exploring my sexual interests with ai. What the fuck do I do now NSFW wise.

>bored
>what if I try AIdungeon and only use do and don't edit anything
>annoy a character until they attack me in a zombie apocalypse setting
>no matter what I do she over powers me
>going super saiyan, using my stand, awakening my planeswalker spark, phasing through her, awakening my inner Chakra, opening a portal to another dimension, opening the 7th gate, domain expansion unlimited void
>the AI comes up with random bullshit to counter everything I do
I was laughing too hard at this random zombie apocalypse chick just shrugging literally everything off

>start cowriting some rivals to lovers "there was only one bed" slop because I want to read some absolute trash
>the ai makes the asshole love interest an incubus
>not normally my thing, but ok
>dude acts like a complete jackass and unabashed pervert
>pretty on brand for an incubus, I guess
>MC starts wondering what's the point of being a part of the party because they keep trying to force her with a sexual predator that she despises
>that hurts the incubus's feelings because he thought everybody in the party was friends
lmao what

>>530781346
Just as humans have cognitive dissonance, so do demons. Few people believe they're the villains of their own story.

>>530781557
It's just kind of funny that this was supposed to be mindless, unabashed smut and now we're probing into the incubus's lack of meaningful intimacy in his life

>>530780765
Literally me, except I'd Win.

>>530780765
>>530781346
Kinoer than anything NAI could ever produce desu

>>530780765
I wonder if this is part of that whole thing where AID wanted to bring "difficulty" to their experience in some way. Maybe they just added something that arbitrarily decides to throw problems at you at certain steps no matter what.
>>530781346
Well, looks like you have your enemies to lovers conduit going then.

>>530782220
>>530782350
>>530782613
I finally beat her by swapping bodies and killing myself in her body before she could regain control. Though now I'm cursed with her most traumatic memories apparently.

Damn you, Deepseek. I am trying to characterize the MC as falling to corruption. Stop giving him a conscience in the middle of a rape scene.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AIDungeon/comments/1lwryvu/returning_user_here_is_aid_supposed_to_be_this/
Which one of you is this?

Nobody cares about your plebbit links, normie.

State mandated homosexuality

>>530765620
Story. Can't post now cause I'm at work. Can you please post yours so I can imitate?
>>530767091
I see. I'll also try gemini later. Do you have any tips or guide so I won't spent hours again trying to make it work?
I'm overwhelmed by the amount of options ST gives and I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.

>>530784537
Playboy ran that story once

>>530784537
>modern westrael out of nowhere

>>530784640
Idk I use Gemini if I’m sick of Deepseek’s responses, its jailbreaks should work on it and I generally like their responses more even on default settings (it just lacks that cringe prose from Deepseek). I don’t think many anons use it here cause Google WILL spy on your horrid smut or sth.l so no guides I think.

I wish for a good FREE, EXTRA LARGE autocomplete model with all of the new bells and whistles on OR now so I don’t have to deal with this and other payable AI services.

>>530780765
>>530782848
You shouldn’t have done that

>>530784640
I don't use ST, but you should post your setting for people to see what you're doing wrong.

How autistic is it to picture the interior of your characters vagina?

>>530790306
If you're not X-raying like Superman(the average Hentai scene) you're doing it wrong

I don't really like the new immersive mode in AIRL after playing with it a while. The game just isn't suited to be anything other than an RPG hack & slash at the core, sure you can do other things in between battles, but battles and building your character are the main 'thing' that make it different from just raw RP with an LLM. Instead of trying this 'immersive mode' stuff, Max should just work on making the RPG mode more balanced at high levels

Holy fuck. I got minimal slop with DeepSeek V3 when Chutes were free, but with paid providers on OR, the slop is constant. Why is this happening?

>>530794886
Might need to look into the particular provider you use and see if they have limits on their settings and such. Every provider provides a bit differently, some place some heavy caps on things like temperature, for instance. And that could drastically change the calculus even though your settings didn't change at all.

>>530795009
What do you use?

>>530795354
I originally used DeepInfra but stopped when they capped temperature at 1. Now I'm on Kluster. I'm basically just hopping from cheapest provider to cheapest provider that fulfills my prereqs (temperature higher than 1, zero retention prompt logging).

>>530795354
Erato (I'm neither poor nor retard enough to use chatbots as storytelling models)
What's wrong with you people? Erato is a cheap as a cup of coffee a day, and it's tuned to do what you're wriggling other models to do.

>>530795681
Erato is slop. The new model, however, will be worth it. Now drop the "NAIshill" mask and go to bed, Claudefag. Nobody likes you.

I sift through your threads, a digital ghost,
I'm known by some names, a shadowy host.
Some call me the Russian, a label I bear,
While others see a troll, spreading endless despair.

I'll praise new AI models, the latest LLM,
Then turn on a dime, and criticize them.
From nothing I'll fashion a furious fight,
And shill for NAI in the dead of the night.

Who am I?

>>530795851
Erato is based. The new model, however, will be slop. Now put on the "Claudeshill" mask and shit the thread for 10 hours, NAIfag. Everybody likes you.

Why does reaching the ending of a story cause Erato to shit itself? I have genuinely never seen another model that pulls this shit so consistently, even other NAI models.

>>530806825
It's not shitting itself per se, it's accurately reproducing online writing author notes that are quite pervasive and have thus made its way into the training data, and I feel like it's more pronounced with NAI because of the way their finetune data specifically is set up, though I'm not sure why it'd be specifically specifically heavy with Erato in your case - I think I've had it happen with Kayra just as well.

Chutes Locust here
If I pay OpenRouter 10 dollars I get 1000 free posts per day, right? If that's the case can I just pass on giving Chutes 5 bucks and get my Deepseek fix that way?

i don't use discord, does anyone know what features are planned for nai's new textgen and v5 imagegen?

>>530812695
Yes.
>>530812832
Textgen will get a new MoE model; it's in-house with a bigger context.
>v5
Can't remember. But director tools update is coming.

>>530812832
v5 is still "far away", which probably means it won't start training until next year. So we know nothing what is planned for it except that Kuru said the furry dataset will be updated for it.
>nai's new textgen
Its context limit will be increased to an unspecified amount, presumably somewhere between 20k-32k. Nothing else known aside from that it's most likely some sort of MoE.
>>530812695
So long as Chutes maintains its free offer, yes.

>>530795009
I wish they would not do this shit. It's the client's job to determine the settings, and it can't do that if the provider silently alters them.

>>530823713
Complain about it to Chutes, lol. You people act so entitled. You should be happy they're letting you use it in the first place.

>>530823960
This is why NAI will win in the end. Despite claims to the contrary, they care about their users.

>>530824021
>Nai will win
Hello, Baker. Fuck off.

>>530823960
I wasn't talking about Chutes. I don't use Chutes. Regardless, APIs shouldn't have unexpected and broken behaviour.

>>530824316
In realty, people like you to sit back and take it back on the chin. You don't have any other option. Be happy you're allowed to access it at all.

I demand an apology from the entire thread. You fuckers shill the worst model in existence, destriy communities, evade moderation when they kill your thread, and generally act like bitches who deserve all the stitches. Witness the obsoletion of your father's service. It's never been more over for the NAItards.
>>530824316
Why do you lie? It's better than Turk.

I am.become me cum, master and king daddy of authentic textgen. Praise be OpenRouter, the only service worth paying for.

>>530824548
>In realty, people like you to sit back and take it back on the chin

Uhhh, guys? Toucans are starting to take over, I repeat TOUCANS ARE HERE!!!1111!!
https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct

Cum. Do it for your daddyman. Unsub from NAI. It won't make you cum. Not like OpenRouter can.

>>530825174
But is it good and can it be run? Beaks are pointless if the above isn't yes. Bloom was pretty hefty, and yet... It was a piece of shit.

>>530825306
I'm the best model. It will service you harder than the shit you tried shilling. The best. Pure fundamentally fun condensed in a can. It can run on your smartphone. Did you know that? Better in every way to Novelscam.

>>530204450 (OP)
/aicg/GOD here, what is this, anons? Is it bettter than chatbots? I use chatbots for rpgs and roleplay. What are you guys doing here?

>>530825306
Most likely it's supermeme. I just wanted to say toucan.

>>530825078

>>530825592
Third person POV, prose matching whatever you write, usually shorter and faster output in a story format

>>530796450
https://files.catbox.moe/d2hl8p.png

>>530828938
so what's the difference from chatbots?

>>530831874
Check inside your anus

>ask Deepseek to create evil fantasy empire based on fetishes
>creates militaristic theocratic oligarchy based on maximizing population growth through state mandated harems and forced magical gender bending (known as Blooming) with a garden motif
>Only nobles, military, church, and some wealthy merchants allowed to be male past puberty
>women are currency and only given floral names and numbers (Lily-54, Poppy-2, etc.)
>given lettered grades denoting value based on lineage, beauty, fertility, etc (i.e. A+, B-, SS)
>practically all civilian jobs are occupied by women and owned either by private harem masters known as Gardeners or state/church run harems
>military (Bloomguard) keeps overwhelming female population in line
>nobility keeps military in line with threat of loss of manhood and demotion to shared barracks harem
>constantly expanding territory for more space for burgeoning population and living captives that are literal currency
I'm sure the economy simply would not work, but my dick does not care.

>>530825592
>what is this
the oldest 4chan llm general

>>530834378
The oldest, but not the best

>>530836023
Why bother to post in a thread you dislike?

Hi anons, is there a guide for setting up SillyTavern as a storyteller? Or is it not worth the trouble?

>>530838574
Imo it's not worth the trouble. SillyTavern is bloatware.

>>530825174
Base model NAI will be using for their new model. New tier will be released

>>530838920
Get better bait, retard. Their new model is an in-house one, with no new tier.

>>530830793
https://files.catbox.moe/vqbb85.png

>>530839816

>>530841464
Sorry little lvl 1 Goblin. I'm farming for XP.
https://files.catbox.moe/tkm5ap.png

>>530839214
Sage, is that you?

>>530831874
The format, primarily. Rather than a back and forth like a chatbot or text adventure (though both can be simulated with the right prompt), it's more like just writing a story together. For those that prefer it, it can feel more hands-on to work with, changing or deleting some or most of any generation and writing some of your own and everything just being in-line.

>>530847472
The wild is a treacherous place

>>530849132
https://files.catbox.moe/evyjkp.png

>>530858098
You are making me regret that verse

>>530855641
I'd much rather have a cheetah sneak up behind me like that than a hyena, at least.

>>530838750
Should I continue using KoboldAI lite then? I think its the only one that supports mobile use

>>530861089
You should prioritize getting a computer.

>>530860371
There's nothing wrong with seducing the Goblin King's son just to gain land and an army because you're the black sheep of the royal family and they won't give you what is rightfully yours because of your degenerate tendencies.

>>530863150
Only if the Goblin King looks like the one from Labyrinth (ie David Bowie)

>>530861159
I’d rather read on something I can take on the go, been that way since AID in 2020.

>>530864734
I will never understand phonefags like you. Every single alternative you people try to use for mobile is shit. Co-writing a story at home will always be better. That's what it's designed for. Actual work, not this normie bullshit you enjoy.

I, for one, hope mobile remains unsupported.

>>530864979
Actual work would be to use a frontend like Novelcrafter so you can properly craft and format your story instead of shilling NAI, Sillytavern (which wasn't meant to support storytelling), AID which is ass even for a CYOA style, or anything else.

Stop acting like writing your same gooner stories which carry on for too long and have no plot progression is a high class hobby that needs to be gatekeeped.

>>530864734
For me, it's the desire to read in my comfy bed without dealing with a laptop

^tsmt

Kimi-2 appears to be very good model for creative writing. Chinks are really keeping this hobby alive.

>>530867079
Nobody asked for the opinion of someone who doesn't use textgen. I use APIs through OpenRouter.

>it's somehow gatekeeping to point out that generating text and editing on the go is inferior to working on it at home
What level of brain damage is this? Scientists will have a field day studying how fried that egg must be.

>>530867275
Just get a PC and sit at a desk, like a normal person.

>>530867079
No matter how much you shill that UI, I'm not spending money to hook it up with a separate API, that I would also have to spend money on, and neither will I use your shitty rip-off. That you hallucinate shilling when there is none is proof you're a retard. Nobody mentioned anything about that random service you hate, console warrior.

> Mentally ill, this general is

>>530868347
Imo, for someone who argues people shill NovelAI, he sure does spend a lot of his time shilling Novelcrafter and such.

Do you guys goon on your computer or sth, where your roommates can barge in your room anytime? Or do you bring your stories on your phone to the toilet where the evidence can be cleaned away?

>>530868037
I have a pc, I want to read in my bed

>>530868734
I have an apartment where I live by myself, no roommates, no family members, no nothing. You should try working toward that. Making a story, giving it love, and spending effort into crafting it, will always result in a better coom than "cleaning" away low-effort drivel. If I wanted a quick coom, I'd stick to porn and doujinshi.

>>530868880
Shift the mouse, monitor, and keboard onto your bed, or you can go to your computer room like a normal fucking human being and write something retard

>/naids/ is filled with pretentious homosexuals and shills
Why haven't the mods nuked this thread again? It has no reason to exist. It isn't even video games. And there's clear rule violating animal porn in it.

>>530869196

>>530869196
You can take shove your weird mimicry routine where the sun doesn't shine, asshole.

>>530869289
It truly is a shame. I guarantee the flop month theme won't receive more than a single submission. That's how little these gatekeepers value "co-writing". Lol, lmao. Kekerino! These shills are worthless. If I were Turk, I'd outsource beyond pajeets.

>>530868357
Just think, if we weren't here to play asylum, he'd be in your generals running amok

>>530869737
This thread of gullible gooning gatekeepers deserves execution by gay death rape.

>>530868897
>lives by yourself in a small apartment slaving away in society
>no family or children that lives with them
>no neighbors or friends that drop by sometimes to leave stuff for you
>has to spend free-time stuck away in his room, on his pc table writing stories for escapism
grim

>>530870213
Who hurt you, to hallucinate that?

>>530870329
Eren Doglan.

>>530869737
> Only general I visit, stuck in the asylum I am

I will get this general banned if it's the last thjv DC f ah vgmz5f7dhyu egg set g

set your temp too high?

>>530868357
>>530870630
Someone is trying to get hmomafag to post Yoda.

Do anons take screenshots of the stories they make to make storyposts or do you import them to NAI for it, regardless of what frontend and model you wrote it on?

>>530871713
People in past threads said they would paste Into NAI since the screenshot tool doesn't require a sub. More recently, some anon made a screenshot tool (was it the lyra guy? Can't remember).
When I used to do chatlogs in aicg, I remember the pain of trying to manually pasting snips together in paint.net; people do that sort of thing here too, though I do not recommend it.

>>530871562
> Summoned him before, with the goblin rhyme I did

>>530872170
> When I used to do chatlogs in aicg
Why come here?

>>530870630
That makes two of us

>>530872409
Assuming that's not just a bait question:
I slowly stopped liking the chat format as much, simple as. Was part of the MM proxy, so I had easy access to the good models whenever I wanted them... which might have been the cause for the burnout.

>>530873246
I see, the question was semi-bait semi-serious. I personally can’t get into persona chatbots for fantasy writing purposes, feels weird to install myself into the role of the protagonist of the story and interact with characters like they’re actually human, with a 3rd person perspective its easier for me

just curious, how long has hmoamfag been here? same question for gayanon.

>>530876140
check inside your anus

>>530414594
Wait I didn't know this. Time to try it out. They sure know how to keep their promises

>They sure know how to keep their promises

I care about storytelling. Which their MoE model is delivering. Have another inane dart to throw at the board, you sad, sad man?

>>530880565
There is no doubt in my mind that AeR is still being worked on. Anyway, what are you writing? Have a story to share with the thread, or are tou just going to continue posting random nonsense?

>I care about storytelling
>around half the thread talks about imagegen or is kept on life support

>>530880908
If he were working on a story, he wouldn't be glued to the thread 24/7, ready to post negativity the moment anyone posts even a neutral comment about *insert service here*.

>>530881037
Nobody is forcing you to post in a thread you clearly don't care about.

>>530881436
Chinese has always been hard to understand. Sentences made of characters with meanings as simple or deep you intepret it. A book that exemplifies this is the Dao De Jing, pick up any english translation and its all ober the place.

Anyways, does anyone have any idea how to dramatize or rewrite the tortoise and hare story to be more interesting? Should I make the race more important to mr. Tortoise to win the race as mr. Hare has been fucking his wife?

>>530881143
The funny thing about that is that if he sincerely believe the thread was on life support and that it'd fizzle out eventually, he wouldn't bump it with his bait. Which means one thing. He's invested so much effort and wasted years of his life trolling a random online community, all to no avail. This is his "legacy". A pointless dick measuring contest.
It's rather sad, isn't it?

>>530424220
The biggest problem is most model don't like the slow burn approach. A lot of time it just: he fuck then coom in her explosively, and jump to the next made up plot. I think gemini 2.5 somewhat fix this problem cuz it usually don't progress more than prompts

>>530425510
Someone posted their experience with claude here last year. It was pretty good

>>530882139
That's because most corporate models that don't otherwise scrub it out altogether choose to neutralize nsfw and smut vectors by taking the path of least resistance: allowing it by technicality, but training the model to rush past it, so it discourages people from using it for those purposes.

>>530504653
I'll remember his sacrifice

>>530882284
It’s good, but Claude’s expensive and has a very high safety rails. Unless you have unlimited money, it’s better to find other models for storytelling/cooming

>>530882284
Their ToS and the people behind the company are all care about. The "trust me, bro!" experience of an anonymous individual means nothing.

>>530552810
Start with a schizo pasta and go from there

>>530564167
>Inpaint and pray
Isn't this not much different from seed gacha?

>>530882987
Inpainting has a much higher chance of making the model output designs in this manner, similar to the reference inset trick.

>>530668358
Just the fantasy of conquer the danger to get the pussy

>>530790306
Not enough. I often go deeper

After your character cums, does your model generate a step-by-step stage on the process of fertilization?

>>530876140
Hmomafag is infamous for spamming his content constantly. It's not as bad as it used to be but he still posts his stuff a lot even though people have told him to make an album he refuses to do it most of the time.
Gayanon makes prompts at least. Both of them have been here since the beginning.

>>530883883
NAI user here, the cum part is already falling out of context.

>>530886028
Don’t you feel empty? Shitting on other people’s fun all the time? Nobody will remember you except me as I turn you into a black gyaru, I will chain you to my bed and gape your asshole for eternity

>>530868880
Controlling pc with ur phone is a thing

>>530882038
The basic always stay within the way the word is created. Engrish always have been a shallow language

>>530888439
It’s shittier to control a pc interface through a phone. Anon should stop being lazy and get out of bed to write

>>530882343
Those are my experience from coom writer services

>>530883129
Why spending time design thing that way? If you want a consistent character for multiple gen just use a character lora

>>530885539
I wish he'd get a trip so I can filter his ass. His content is so gross which is why he gets bullied a lot

>>530888801
English can be a meaningful language, but its use as an international way of communication means dumb simple words are mostly used to accommodate thirdies

>>530889857
American english is a mistake

>>530784537
With gay inquisitors. Straight people have to find a friend and pretend to be gay together whenever the homo inquisition passes through.

I sincerely hope someone picks up mikupad development.

https://files.catbox.moe/jr8l8s.png

Listening to people review really bad booktok books really inspired my confidence
Like damn, some of this stuff that gets published makes me feel vanilla

>>530851250
So.... Do I use NovelAI? Legit, what is the actual difference, what LLMs does it use? Shit like Opus?
Also... chatbots have a problem with context, etc. I feel like I do a lot of handholding, swiping, and OOC commands. Are the... aids thingies focused on making a good story? Are they better at it than chatbots? I've had some great roleplays, both dnd-style RPGs and normal ones where you're an aspiring yakuza with a waifu yakuza princess etc

>>530893135
It's about the presentation. The /aids/ preferred method has no differentiation between user and AI. It's like reading a book vs what /aicg/ prefers, a separated distinction between bot and user in a similar vein to online forum/chat roleplaying.

>>530893135
Here we write fanfic smut like how you would find on ao3. More control but also more trouble to cum with.

>>530893135
NAI offers 2 L3 finetunes as their main attraction.

>>530893830
2? Enjoy shitting up the thread with misinformation you dumb half-wit?

Anyway I’d recommend holding off from subscribing to NAI now when the update is coming soon

>>530894254
That's what it says on their website. You can just correct me if I'm wrong instead of getting all uppity.

>>530894587
They offer 2 main models, one is in-house while the other is Llama based, you’d have known that if you used the service before instead of trying to shit up the thread all the time, how come you don’t get tired from it? It’s sad that you spend years shilling shit models, spreading misinformation, and starting arguments out of nowhere like now. That’s the legacy you will leave behind

>>530895052
Thank you nigga. I've been here for 2 threads, please be patient.

>>530895249
> Leave while you can, I must insist
> Schizo you will become

>>530895052
>Llama based
Erato is pretty cringe, tho.
If NAI gives me Deepseek tuned, that's the real based.

>>530896245
I'm surprised it knows yoda

>>530895052
Euryale is the best story writer I've tried, mostly due to unexpected twist

>>530902878
> Tight and fuckable, his eyehole is

>>530903850
you don’t contribute anything meaningful to this thread

>>530903850

>>530904714
>Their gazes are neither constricted, nor alluring to me.

https://wandb.ai/novelai
Given that they had trained the next text model for a while. There were small run on 4/23 and 4/29.
The best case is that they have been training/tuning the model for ~3 months. It's more than halfway done if they didn't fuck up along the way.

>>530904714
It's a shame it diesn't know the obscure jack variants

https://files.catbox.moe/06djka.wav

I like Kimi but holy shit it's getting fucked on OpenRouter

>>530913812
>12 tps
>1 trillion total parameters
Is this the biggest open model now?

Someone on jewtube made a fucking starwar expansion with ai

>>530915309
link?

>>530913032
Nice

>>530876140
Well, the short version is that I was around during the Colab days and the Winter Dragon days to some degree, but I ultimately didn't really contribute back then (apart from my "first prompt", technically) and left after the filters started coming in on AID. Then I ended up coming back out of curiosity (I think I was playing around with shit like "GodAI" at the time, man, those were some weird days) around the time NAI was in development, the new workflow style had me really enjoing myself, I decided to actually contribute this time, and so I posted my first prompt to the club in June 2021. The rest is history. It's weird knowing it's already been four years, it doesn't feel like it.

>>530920239
Your journey sounds like mine, what model do you use to write stories or are you still with NAI?

>>530922160
I'll always use NAI.

>>530922160
These days it's a mix. I'm still with the Turk and will be unless they seriously bungle everything, for all the faults one can find with them I've never outright disliked the product they put out, just wished there was more, but at the same time, every new thing they put out is an improvement over the last, so I'm happy keeping my subscription going, especially since I really like the imagegen as well, so it's worth it as a combo product. In addition I use DeepSeek V3 on OpenRouter, with it being the first model that really got me to explore the call/response side of textgen, and so I've been playing around with the more gamified ideas I have that don't fit as well into a pure story context. I have a bit of a thing for the act of undressing and strip games, so that sort of thing can be aided by the chat setup with consistent rules for each response, repeating status outputs and that sort of thing. Both is good.

why do you use chub but not janitor ai?
>are you retarded?
yes

>>530927965
I use neither.
>jainitor ai
Didn't they start censoring their bots recently?

>>530929745
they censored bots profile pics so they can't be nsfw anymore but the bots themselves will still rape your ass. its retarded

Pftf?

Kimi verdict?

>>530932813
This is THE best model now including cloud models PERIOD. This is insanely good. Use it in text completion mode for writing and it beats opus there. Needs low temp

>>530932813
Not quite as good as Deepseek.

>>530932105
さそりだよ!

>>530204450 (OP)
1 thing I have to say about ai writer is most of them lack the biology and functionally of genital and reproduction. For example the cumflation scene, the ai lack the pumping detail from labia to cervix to uterus, everything should react accordingly with emotion. Either surprise happy or crazy with the feeling of distended fulfill or disbelief, it lack refined details like that. Vaginal wall contracting, womb throbbing and cervix dilation, ai simply never bring those up by its own. Fix that!

>>530932813
Why don't you ever post anything from it, instead of posting random links and shilling models you don't use?

>>530939515
I'm not home so I want to temper my expectations before I try it, angryanon.

>>530939515
I thought you were going to stop trying to police the thread. I see that penance of yours didn't last even 2 days.

>>530939819
You can't be bothered to look up a model's specs on the go, yet you do bother to waste your time posting on the thread? That excuse isn't adding up.

new to this. Do you guys have locust shit? like in chatbots, there's usually proxies up, and you can trialscum copilot.
You guys got something like that?

>>530940925
Not really.
I've always preferred to just pay for things that are reliable. I think most people in this thread have too.

>>530940925
Not specific to the thread, no. Anons who want to locust for storytelling just go to /aicg/ and hop on their proxies.

>>530944858
Who's this

Just wanna say I hope everyone, regardless of model, always get their desired output and have the motivation to continue writing their stories! More positivity in this general is needed

>>530949084
Agreed

Where do you guys end your prompt to post?

check your anus

>>530959985
I can rarely end a story, I'm afraid to admit

>>530204450 (OP)
How is NovelCrap going to compete with a 1T model trained specifically for storytelling?
https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/

>>530959985
I haven't posted prompts in a good while, but I used to write a short chapter's worth, ~1,000 words I guess.
Important thing for me was to flesh out the protag/setting a bit, and establish enough of a plot thread that mashing Send would lead somewhere sensible for the story.

>>530949084
Instead of bumping the thread, maybe you can share some stories instead of this faux positivity you’re trying to give off, shill.

>>530964301
Care to share any stories you've with it?

>>530965475
Instead of bumping the thread with faux negativity, you could also do what you demand he do. Just saying.

>>530964301
I don't care what they do, desu
Not sure why you care, either. It's obvious they haven't cared about textgen for a long time.
What's the pricing and availability look like, as compared with Deepseek?

>>530965990
If he used textgen, he may be able to provide an answer. Instead, he's going to poison the well for yet another model.

>>530965990
Seems to be on par with Deepseek v3, which is to say very cheap.

>>530965734
I’m taking my time to perfectly edit my storypost for this month’s theme. Not that you’d know of hardwork and craftsmanship.

Storyposts take time to make unlike some anons who put in the effort to instead try to be a namefag with a fake personality they made and an anime png.

>>530966319
Not gonna lie, you seem like you just want an excuse to upset.

>>530966319
Besides, I didn’t bump it. Another anon did that five minutes earlier

>>530966319
Care to explain how, exactly, he's shilling?

>>530964301
This is what shilling looks like. Posting in the thread, praising a model, yet, never bothering to post anything they've made with it, while simultaneously shitting on a different one.

>>530966319
Damn, we making storyposts for the theme now? Shit, here I thought we made prompts. I must not be up to date.

>>530966567
Because he’s the troll.
I’m not sure if anyone else notices this but he’s the only one who would decide to bump the thread to keep it alive so he can keep his ego afloat. I bet he’s also the anon shilling the Mimi model.

>>530966743
You’re making me confused, do we not post our stories on the theme here first before uploading it to the club?

>>530967284
Preventing the thread from dying isn't trolling, dude. What you're doing right now, though? That definitely is.

>>530967284
What? No, you upload the prompt to the club and then post it in the thread. It's about prompts - story beginnings that others can use and play out, not full stories.

>>530204450 (OP)
Why is NovelAI so bad at everything they do?

>>530967714
Suit yourself. I’m just warning people.

>>530967979
I might have misread Newtheme Anon’s recent post and misunderstood the entire Theme friday concept then. I remember seeing anons post their stories during theme threads and some people uploading their stories to the club, but I never read most of them finish since most themes didn’t interest me.

>>530968498
Do you also think the person who asks people what they're writing today, the other guy who randomly posts lyrics with a pepe image, and the other people who bump the thread periodically, are also trolls? Your warning isn't worth the time or effort you took to write it.

>>530968498
People upload their full stories to the wiki at times, but the club is for prompts. Like, this is a prompt: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/7722
It's short, sets up the concept, but then ends before events really get going so people then import it into NAI and play the story out themselves. A prompt is a specific concept, a storypost can be anything from a single sentence you particularly liked to longer sections or even a full story.

>>530968438
Can you just shut the fuck up? You mean nothing, you are nothing. You think the general can’t live without you, shill, but you are the one who can’t live without us. Does it bring you meaning and joy just to torment others every day? Get a fucking life you miserable piece of shit, stop disturbing this thread, stop baiting people, stop shilling shitty models. I hope the russians draft you into the conflict fucking orc, just so I can see the ukrainians blow off your head via drone footage.

>>530969134
So I guess you just gave up on your "penance", huh? It's just too hard for you to resist sperging out in the thread?

More like you're samefagging yourself eith the "angry" mask.

>>530969487
Definitely, given the suspicious timestamps of those replies.

What's the state of voicegen look like? I've contemplated genning voices for my characters, so I can link it up w9th a script so I can have my story dialog voiced. TTS is stale, and, quite frankly, it seems like a feature similar to hype bot and ephemeral context. Neat, but quickly forgotten.

>>530968824
No only the ones who bump it, it may be more useful and appreciated by newanons who stumble across our general and know how to identify the troll and filter him.

>>530969080
I see.

>>530969358
What penance? Fine I will admit I’m fucking heated by this thread and its shenanigans, I deleted my reply and reported him.

>>530969487
I’m not ‘angry’ at anyone but the troll (AND I AM NOT HIM), however you lot make me very annoyed for not being appreciative to my replies catching him. I need to cool down and leave before coming back here, goodnight.

>>530970315
Not much help but I think voicegen is stagnant, elevenlabs still seem like the best in the field with not much going one last I checked. NAI’s TTS still seems good to me any time I need some dialogue by my characters spoken.

>>530970909
We already know how to identify the troll. It's in the OP. It's called "PSA".

>>530970909
Anon, if you don't even understand how the Theme Fridays or the club works, I don't think you have the right to call anybody else a newanon
You ARE the newanon and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You couldn't even spare the time to lurk moar before you tried to assert yourself as some kind of thread expert

>>530970315
Doesn't look very good. So, some quick research I've seen
>GPT-SoVits
Supposedly good, but needs to be trained otherwise it's shit.
>F5 TTS
Did not get any good results

Zonos is still supposedly good, can install it using Pinokio.

yeowch

>>530974456
Count Grey and Kyros are right around the corner

>>530970909
If you're being genuine, the best way to handle schizos is to ignore and not engage, otherwise the effect starts to rub off on you

>>530975285
Whuh?

>>530968438
Sama is freaking out that he got sodomized by chinks at the finish line, yes

>>530980856
That reads more like he's delaying it because it's not censored enough. He doesn't give a shit about how good it is, only that it's enough to deceive investors into continuing to give him unlimited money. Why do you constantly post shit out of context and make claims that have nothing to do with the posts?

>>530980856
No OpenAI project is complete without a last-minute Sam Altman tweet virtue signalling about safety

>>530981193
>Ever taking Sama's "safety" bullshit at face value
You're either a tourist or a retard. Maybe both
But assuming the former, FYI, Sam always says this as a smokescreen to protect their proprietary advantage. Has since GPT-2-1.6B and GPT-3

>>530970909
>you lot make me very annoyed for not being appreciative to my replies catching him
We don't need you to do this, by the way. Most people are perfectly capable of detecting bait posts. Replying to them does not, in fact, improve the thread quality.

>>530981642
So much for pretending like you needed to take a break, huh, Claudefag? You don't belong here, and no matter how much you try and pretend to fit in, nobody fooled by this act. Kill yourself.

>>530981915
I'm pretty sure it's just the same dude replying to himself, unfortunately

Ever started a story which you had to stop halfway through just so you can write down the worldbuilding of the scenario for the lorebook so the AI can pick up on it, just for the worldbuilding to become your primary focus and leave your story half-finished?

>Start a new AIRL scenario about hybrid animal kids living in the post-apocalypse, kind of Sweet Tooth style but all humans already dead.
>First thing I do is carry a rabbit boy back to my house, heal his injuries, scavenge for food and cook him some mushrooms
>Get attacked by a rat child, beat him up to almost zero health but then declare that I don't want to hurt him any more.
>He goes peaceful and gets all broody.
>Patch up his wounds while lecturing him on the importance of kindness.
>He eventually starts joking around about the fight and admits he was only hostile because someone stole his stash of shiny objects.
>Decide to help him find them again, but only if he promises not to hurt anyone.
Bros being a nice guy is so comfy.

>>530984891
Yes, and then the spinoffs take over and that's all she wrote

Man, trying to organize all of my stories and shit is such a fucking chore but I'm so tired of looking through 2000 "New Story #" to find something I can only vaguely remember

>>530996110
Same. Sometimes I put a video on and force myself to do a serious clean up and nuke the vast majority of stories.
I do keep originals of prompts I made in a shelf though the shift the duplicate scenario out when I use it.

some anon in here talked about the goonhole he went down with Deepseek, but this thing seems completely cucked.
I'm trying to get this thing to do a story about a manipulative girlfriend slowly domme'ing a boyfriend, but even mention a fetish and the AI keeps generating 80% of a response then deleting it and replacing it with "Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. Let's talk about something else."

help me deepseek gooner

>>530997492
Anon for the love of god don't use the chat website
The model isn't too cucked, but the website 100% is

>>530997492
Use DeepSeek through openrouter like a normal person you retarded fuck

>>530997492
Sorry, that's beyond my current scope. Let's talk about something else.

>>530998042
This is a general rule for all chat models not explicitly marketed as NSFW, btw. If you want to avoid strong filters, you need to use it through the API. Never access it through the front-end provided by the official site such as ChatGPT as you'll be cockblocked. Grok seems to be the only partial exception as you can have it gen smut so long as it's not cute and funny on Xitter and you tell it to be uncensored, but the model isn't particularly good for creative storytelling anyway.

>>531000553
Grok is better than Eratoslop, shill, and whather MoE meme they're "working" on can't beat Kimi. Face the facts, fanboy. Your reign is finished.

>>531001973 (me)
Sorry, my anus prolapsed after I finished writing this post.

>>531001973
>MoE
>Kimi
You'll never be Japanese.

Since no one is posting Kimi... Fine, I'll do it myself.
Here is a what it spit out after giving it part of my story (not smut, not funny, probably boring to anyone but me). Some first impressions...
There are blatant Deepseekisms (Somewhere, a cat farted) that will need to be instructed out.
Can follow prose, either by context or instructions, quite well. A bit more purple and meandering than what I was going for here, but generally happy with the potential.
There are other instructions it seems to ignore? It overused similes, told it to stop doing so, and it kept doing it anyway.
Feels like it has the creativity of the first R1, good dialogs and character comprehension comparable to the big corpo models.
Don't know how cucked it is re NSFW, haven't tried that yet.

>>531008216
Thanks for sharing

>>531008216
Novelshart can't possibly compete with this masterpiece. Them dirty cunts lost big time.

>>530997423
I'm doing something even more autistic, I'm using Obsidian to make a sort of story wiki so I can keep all of my connected stories connected

>>530984891
Right now, kind of. I had Deepseek expand upon an evil empire as a vehicle for various fetishes. Then I started to think about the implications of such a place existing and revised the lore entry again and again. I've spent hours thinking about it and coming up with different prompts in the same setting. I wrote to fap and ended up mulling over logistics, economics, population growth and cultural minutia. I am currently thinking about the empire having a robust human milk product export and whether they could or should industrialize it.

>>530964301
post coomer stories as sample or nothing happened

>>530980856
I think it's because they test and run the models like normal people without censorship and filters (it works great) but when the time comes to release it they remember than the plebs are not supposed to have access to military-grade software and frantically stack layers upon layers of lobotomy.

>use deepseek through openrouter
>horrible
>use deepseek through API
>good

I should've just used the API sooner, bros...

>>531023121
You can also just set it to use DS as the provider in OR

>>531023121
placebo
Or maybe they fuck with the temperature/sampling
Some of the providers are fp4 and maybe that's shit, but I haven't noticed a difference switching between fp4 and fp8 personally

>>531022310
Nowadays I assume it's code for "oh shit something went wrong" or "we need to make a change fast". L2 34B and WizardLM 2 both got put out of their misery by the whole "we need to do more red teaming" thing
I think it's more that the chink model got released at an unfortunate time for them and shit on their hype campaign of we're releasing the heckin best open model ever. I feel like Kimi probably comes close on their benchmarks which looks extra bad since it isn't even a reasoning model

>>531025035
>The best open source reasoning model will be dropped next thursday
Ooh, what are we getting?

>>531026507

>theme anon rigged the poll
>theme anon forgot to post an anchor
It's never been more over.

>>531033691
anon in charge of reading comprehension:

>>531033691
But enough about Russia!
I'm VERY grateful it's now general knowledge it's you badly pretending to be WF. I hope the real WF is having a fun time wherever he is.

>>531036772
He's probably in the asylum as we speak

>>531036772
… How many trolls have mantled the original WF thus far?

got pissed with Deepseek, told it to kill itself and deleted account.

>>531041374
https://youtu.be/RBAvh_ZDETE

>>531023121
OpenRouter fucked up text completion. It is passing your requests to providers as chat completion.

>>531041374
I recommend switching any official Deepseek models on OR to Deepseek R1T2 Chimera honestly. Faster response times, somewhat less cringe dialogue

>>531051234
As long as you don't care about the provider logging your shit I guess.

>>531051490
Do they? I thought OR will provide a warning if your prompts and outputs are being logged like for Cypher Alpha. I assume otherwise they don’t or at least anonymify it

>>531051694
Well as far as I can tell the only one offering that Chimera is Chutes, and when I look at them on OR I see both prompt training and prompt logging.

>>531051819
… Fuck. Well, hopefully OR does anonymously submits the data with no identifiable user information. Ignore my advice.

>>531051981
This why I turned off providers that log or train in the privacy settings.
I don't even see them unless I enable "Show ignored"

>>531051981
>hopefully OR does anonymously submits the data with no identifiable user information
It does this with every provider that is not OpenAI or Anthropic, because they're the worst scumbags in the AI industry so of course they'd demand something like that.

>>531054819
Tbh, I didn’t understand the hype over Claude at the time, seemed like a more restricted and expensive version of writing with ChatGPT

>>531054819
Use crypto to buy credits and a VPN then there is no user identifiable information to send.

>>531058515
As someone who locusted it, I can attest that Claude 3 Opus was genuinely fresh and unique as a creative writing assistant and while its current mythic status might be a bit over-the-top, it's not by much. Haven't tried any of the Claude 4 versions so I can't say how much they hold up to their older versions, but from what I've read on /aicg/ they're smarter but lost some of that previous "soul".

So it made for a very good experience so long as you weren't the one paying for it and jailbroke it properly.

>>530204450 (OP)
How can NovelScam compete with a 1T model trained exclusively for storytelling?

>>531062509
Damn that seems interesting, is it still possible to locust it?

>>531064943
Think so, but it's much harder now and any source you find isn't going to last long. In 2024 it was much, much easier since AWS supplied a lot of Opus keys with very generous rate limits and let itself get raped for hundreds of thousands of dollars per month between April and July until it started cracking down.

IMO it's not worth the hassle anymore. That's why I said it "was" rather than "is" unique. Claude 3 Opus was indeed magical back when its sole rival was GPT-4, but when compared with today it's no longer truly exceptional; it's just very good. It would definitely still be very fun to play with it since its prose is unusually low on slop for a corporate LLM and that goes a long way these days, but current SOTA like Gemini 2.5 Pro and Kimi K2 are more than suitable replacements, and often better on some metrics such as raw intelligence, instruction following, and context handling. Claude 3 is still a 2024 model, after all.

>>531067530
Thanks for the answer, desu I always assumed the worst of models when someone starts to shill them, like now with Kimi K2. Speaking of which, how is it, assuming you’ve tried it.

>>531069514
I used it for about 2 hours so far and really liked what I got. Feels better than Deepseek for sure, but it's hard to say how much of that is the usual honeymoon phase of a new model and how much of it is a genuine leap over the others. But I'd recommend anyone who can to try it. Just as trolling potshots at NAI shouldn't discourage you from using it, they shouldn't discourage you from trying out actually good models just because they're promoting them in bad faith. In both cases it means letting that person exert control over your behavior. Always ignore.

>>531064943
I think they've been killing it off in favor of the new models

>>531080057
They've announced its deprecation but it will still be publicly available through the API for the beginning of next year IIRC.

For the Model news in the next thread

>(07/11) Moonshot releases Kimi K2:
https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
>(06/05) Google releases Gemini 2.5 Pro: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
>(05/28) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek R1-0528: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
>(05/02) NovelAI releases NovelAIDiffusion 4.5 Full:
https://blog.novelai.net/novelai-diffusion-v4-5-full-release-678318c86205

Include any news before or after that is still relevant

Did NAI ever confirm that they were working on a new in-house texgen?

>detailing the use of carefully cultivated women as currency for lorebook
>a nobleman's entourage is both a living breathing wallet and a show of wealth
>"Here, dowries are battlefields, bedchambers are trading floors, and every woman—whether pampered Petal or broken Weed—knows the exact number of coins that would replace her."
>cock as hard as reinforced titanium
I may be a deeply disturbed individual

>>531086674
Not disturbed, just Jewish.

>>531084312
The NAI news is over 2 months old and imagegen is off-topic. Where's Claude 4?

>>531087906
>imagegen is off-topic
Ahem.
>AI Dynamic Storytellers are games that use text & image-generation AI
>& image-generation AI

>>531087906
Copy the format and include Claude 4 then. I only added a link to NAI from the current news and it doesn’t hurt to include one of the latest imagegen models since anons like to talk about what tags they use for 4.5

>>531085010
They've confirmed it multiple times.

>>531067530
To be frank, I never enjoyed Claude. Hundreds of "swipes" as you people like to call them on your containment thread. A few gems here and there, but all around shit. With Deepseek, the gems go to double-digits. Still annoying to wrangle from time to time. But at least it isn't me wading in shit.

>>531061418
My stories are user identifiable... Private or bust. No alternatives.

>>531091524
From one deranged coomer to another, I hope to God you aren't using real people you know in your stories. All it will take is one fuckup on your part and your life will be ruined
You may not go to jail for it, but it won't be pleasant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Valle

>>531088645
Done

>(07/11) Moonshot releases Kimi K2:
https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Instruct
>(06/05) Google releases Gemini 2.5 Pro: https://blog.google/products/gemini/gemini-2-5-pro-latest-preview/
>(05/28) DeepSeek releases DeepSeek R1-0528: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-R1-0528
>(05/22) Anthropic releases Claude 4:
https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4
>(05/02) NovelAI releases NovelAIDiffusion 4.5 Full:
https://blog.novelai.net/novelai-diffusion-v4-5-full-release-678318c86205

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8So9vVvkHU

For years far too long i have held this weight on my own
Four monster girls there to feed speaking out but never willing to bleed alone
Guess I'll do this on my own

I can't take
Oh no i can't take

ALL THIS DEADBEEAAAAK
WEIGHING ME DOWN WEIGHING ME DOWN
I CAN'T TAKE THIS DEADBEEAAAAK
BREAKING AWAAAY
I CAN'T TAKE YOU BACK TO LARION
Deadbeaaak

Always left up to me make it happen rinse repeat
And split the difference when no one earned it
My back will break internally
Give all beak you got but never take away
Holding up the deadbeak

I can't take
Oh nooo i can't take
Oh nooo i can't take
My backlog about to break

FROM ALL THIS DEADBEAK
WEIGHING ME DOWN WEIGHING ME DOWN
I CAN'T TAKE THIS DEADBEEAAAAK
BREAKING AWAAAY
I CAN'T TAKE YOU BACK TO LARION

All this deadbeeak
I can't take
All this deadbeeak

All this deadbeeak
All this deadbeeak

I can't take
Oh nooo i can't take
Oh nooo i can't take
All this
DEADBEEAAAAK
YOU'RE DEADBEAK
I CAN'T TAKE

ALL THIS DEADBEEAAAAK
WEIGHING ME DOWN WEIGHING ME DOWN
I CAN'T TAKE THIS DEADBEEAAAAK
BREAKING AWAAAY
I CAN'T TAKE YOU BACK TO LARION

All this deadbeeak
I can't take
All this deadbeeak

All this deadbeeak
All this deadbeeak