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>>530226584 (OP)
pvmping

will he come back for MoP?
I know he is a massive MoP fan

>>530226896
He's playing on anni, prepping for TBC

>>530227020
stop posting this stupid cat

Era is poppin off again. I guess people got tired of anni being filled with tbc preppers, bots and gold sellers

>>530226584 (OP)
How many "men" have cum to black mageweave by now?

>>530227378
>era "popping" off only days before a raid with a sliver of challenge is unlocked
curious

>>530227378
what's wrong with tbc preppers?

>massive mop fans getting ready to finally play for the first time

>>530228258
they don't raid or pvp, just level and shit up the economy

>>530228572
oh so NOW leveling is a bad thing

me when moppa.

>>530229154
Bot post

>played mop when it was current
>played UVLS demo

Kino gameplay.

>Bot post

VVHITEMANE PVMP

what's the song that goes like this
dun dun dun dun
da da da da da da
dun dun dun dun
da da da da da da

Pvmp for Alliance!

>>530230516
>pubeless version
Another Horde W

>>530231135
>>530230516

>>530231135
That green one supposed to be undead?

>>530230224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSDC3cHoZs

>>530231634
Looks more like a goblin

>>530230516
>>530231135
>stop posting ai slop its harmful to real artists!
>the real artists:

>>530231135
>HUGE balls
>moderate peen
lmao

>>530231823
he's a grower not a shower

Did they buff Obliterate damage in Pre patch? I swear I did like 20k crits before and now it's 30-50k

>>530232538
Two handed Frost with Might of The Frozen Wastes to be clear. It is also Pvp so resilience obviously.

>>530232538
Oblit now benefits from mastery when playing frost.

>>530232856
Yeah, but two handed gets like 3% extra only

>>530232961
Dunno. Could be a stealth buff or a bug. After all they again managed to reintroduce the death rines to blood bug from wrath

Anyways, not complaining. I can finally press Obliterate without feeling bad about tryhard masterfrost elitists that think I suck

>>530233107
Makes sense. Feels great either way. Thanks bro.

>>530233139
Last I checked the discord they simmed about same, but oblit was way worse on AoE.

>>530233432
Yes, I know. Masterfrost is better still in most cases. But Pvp and single target you can use Obliterate guilt free.

So dire beast is supposed to be “strong” but it does like 30k in pvp over 15 seconds on a 30 sec CD…

Thrill of the hunt is way better in pvp, which is annoying given it’s the fucking beast mastery spec

>Of course we have thumbs, look!
I don't get it.

that's great and all but the fact is that trans women just aren't women

>>530235105
2h Frost DK hands typed this

Mop confirmed tranny furry goyslop

>>530235105
based

Pvp is more fun than PVE, sorry.

>>530228572
Prepping for a patch/expansion only works once. 2nd time around everyone is in on the scam and the mats are massively stockpiled. Then once the patch launches everyone trips over each other to sell their stockpiles as the price quickly falls below what prices were before they started hoarding mats.

>>530228572
Yeah that's right i dont raid
>warrior
>expected to come up with ~150g worth of consumes, get wbuffs and enchant crusader on my blues to raid
>paladin
>don the dress
With gdkps id probably raid, without it? I'm afk in your av and polluting the ah. Oh well

>>530236407
>>expected to come up with ~150g worth of consumes, get wbuffs and enchant crusader on my blues to raid
Just join a dad guild.

>>530236407
this is why I will never play DPS or tank in vanilla
>bunch of worldbuffs you're expected to get
>like 10+ consumables you're expected to get
>every single raid
vs healer
>get some major mana potions and you're good, most of the worldbuffs have little effect on healers

>>530236407
Just play r*tail my man, you're obviously some type of soccer mom

Some people won't admit it, but any iteration of Wow is preferable to bare bones vanilla and really WOTLK forward is when the game actually gets good and fun for the majority of players. Questing is awful (you need to download an addon to play the game), pvp is awful (there is no class balance, none at all) and pve is awful (you press one button, and your skill is based in consumes and buffs)

Killed by prepatch

Oh the humanity

>>530236826
you want an invite healcuck? better show me you brought 40 flasks of distilled wisdom
there are no breaks on this train

>>530236927
nah
id raid if gdkp was in the game. my time is worth more than it was when i was 17 and had unlimited time to spend on wow

>>530237302
Mop is actually good though. You can play 2H Frost DK with buffed MotFW finally

>>530237219
>you need a quest addon to quest
Zoomer moment, i bet you are iliterate
>pvp le bad becase... because balance!
You just suck and you re gay

>>530236642
>dad guild
tried that
>ret paladins SR onslaught girdle because it's le casual bro who cares about loot lol
no

>my time is worth so much that i spend it on leveling and playing the ah

>>530237725
Emotional zero logic response. Questie is used by literally everyone, it is a non argument to pretend otherwise. It is inherently bad. 2ndly. PvP in vanilla is EASIER than later versions. There is less to press and everyone has less HP and more burst to make it easier for shitty players to score killing blows. However, it is largely based on meta and class choice and thus shittier compared to later versions which are harder to play, but more option oriented.

>>530238085
i mean i gotta get to 60, and i enjoy the journey because 'nilla leveling is kino
>playing the ah
yeah, making gold is cool and i want to go into tbc with a surplus
i also rank in AV while wfh because i can. mad?

>>530231808
This still looks better than AI slop though

>word of glory has no cooldown
>can easily solo kaelthas now
another mountie boss added to my weekly runs

>>530238119
Absolute garbage take on pvp zoomie

Just read the quest text and stfu
If you dont know 90% of the quests by now idk what to tell you (its been 21 years)

>>530237219
>Questing is awful (you need to download an addon to play the game)
You really don't. For the most part, quests give good directions. You don't need an addon at all, people just WANT an addon because they're conditioned to go fast and don't want to slow down and read. Want =/= need. The way that people play games has changed, but that doesn't mean there are any flaws with how it's designed. It's like Morrowind in that regard, it's designed perfectly well, modern gamers just don't have the patience for it. I might be an outlier and I acknowledge that, but I never use questie when playing vanilla.
In fact, I will stand by that vanilla has the best questing experience, and I say that as somebody who will be playing MoP. Later expansions are certainly faster paced, and objective-oriented gamers (which are a majority today) will prefer that, but vanilla's immersion and roleplaying fantasy during levelling is unmatched. It's just a slower paced style of gaming that a lot of people don't care for anymore.

Endgame content definitely does improve in later expansions though. Vanilla endgame pve is completely braindead. Which to be fair, I think is what a lot of its playerbase actually wants, they don't want challenge or more skillful mechanics, they just want to chill. And I can respect that on some level. But it's not for me. From Wrath onwards, raids actually start to be fun.
I never really played pvp so can't comment on that.

>>530238713
My point is that if the questing is so good, why do 99.99% of players use an addon to circumvent it? Also, my PvP take is quite literally the general opinion of most PVP veterans I've seen. They play classic PvP when they want more chaos and free reign to one shot people via broken numbers. No one who wants complexity plays it.

>>530235105
TYPICAL NILLER

>>530238713
>molyneux
could not be me.

do you think blizzard will nuke the gold from old raids soon? these tbc raids are giving 250 per boss and you can easily solo them, that's pretty much a token every 2 weeks

>>530239309
You do realize you're criticizing people for using a tool that helps them remember and streamline data from over like 2000 individual tasks? Toilet dwellers always use this as some sort of talking point yet fail to explain how the toilet side is any different when the game literally just tells you what to do with a giant flashing red neon sign. The whole purpose of using questing add-ons is to cumulatively group objectives from different quests together at the same time to minimize running back and forth. I also only rely on it about half the time because there are several things the questing guides tell you to do that don't account for over leveling, being in a group, or dungeon farming. Every time I play the game from wrath onward questing wasn't really even a thing. You just dungeon farmed all the way to max level. The thing I really wish they would add is PVP to gain exp. Battlegrounds are the funnest thing to do for me and they basically don't exist on the anniversary server.

Maybe im just too good, turns out im 0.01% of efficient mindmelding quester

>>530237736
It's still an upgrade for ret pals. You aren't some speedrunning guild looking to set a world record on a newly opened raid. There's no reason you as a brownie deserves a piece of loot over a ret pal.

>>530238119
I don't use questie and never have. Most people in my guild don't. Most pserver chads don't. Most anons itt don't.
If you can't read quest text and know where to go then you are an illiterate ESL thirdie.

All the nost vets are rolling on Kael'thas btw. July 21st.

>>530239693
How do you get into raids alone if you don't have a second account and don't want to bother people wish along then to join you for a while?

>>530240758
make a group in the group finder (make it private) and convert to raid

>>530239309
>99.99%
Nigger shut the fuck up its probably less than 40%.

I don't even know why people want to play retardin in vanilla
you literally have no offensive abilities other than judgement and consecrate
you're an autoattack machine
Even in PvP you're useless outside of bubble cd or getting lucky with hand of justice procs

>>530241565
brown people just want to be white that badly

>>530241565
Its a rpg

>>530240350
yes there is, and that reason is that it's a fucking ret paladin and has no place in a raid
>implying i raid with rets
even still, holy paladins will SR it because you can SR whatever you want according to SR rules. fucking retarded

>>530241702
>playing the role of "shitty melee"
whatever gets your dick hard I guess

>>530241828
More like gods chosen uthers son two hand mace weilding scourge killing lawful good h e r o

When I played TBC vanilla I remember Warrior tanking being pretty difficult. It's always gear dependent but I remember not even being able to make the transition from normal instances into heroics. Especially Sethek halls I would just get crushed on content. I also remember paladins and Druids not really having that problem. If I wanted to be a main tank for an endgame rating Guild what is the best tanking spec?

>>530241565
the 1-60 journey is cool, very safe and smooth leveling experience. can tank dungeons and get all the scarlet gear. slows down in the 50s though
reckoning is probably the only other reason id play in vanilla since horde is predominately made up of undead rogues and orc warriors who try to parse on you and get bodied by a reck bomb. i can take 2-3 zombies at a time in bg's before i go down. wouldn't dream of raiding on a paladin though, spamming flash of light is for the birds. i save that for TBC so i can be ret and prot

>>530242762
I tanked kara when i was 12 years old, how difficult could it be really?

At that time no one really thought warriors were bad tanks in tbc.

I tanked as a druid on era tbc and had about the same amount of hardship imho.

>>530241827
Bro it's 20 year old content that was initially tuned for 12 year old kids running at 12 fps and on dialup.
You don't even need more than 30 people in a raid to clear.

>>530244684
uhhh but bro your parse?

>>530244684
in that case you shouldnt mind getting 0 loot as ret since the raid is such a pushover :^)

>>530244984
What's that? Sounds like some gay shit

>>530244684
and you don't need a ret paladin to clear a raid

>>530244684
>but boss, why should i do my work? this job is so easy, the rest of my team can do it just fine while i jerk off all day
>oh and you will still pay me my salary, of course ;)

someone post that onions ret paladin comic

>>530245276
And the brownoid doesn't need his bis :^)

>>530245424
Yes exactly. I am a based wagie who jerks off while wfh

>>530245907
You are indian

>>530245117
I don't believe you've played classic wow for any significant amount of time and don't know what a parse is lmao

My abscess just broke and I thought my dog came back to life and took a shit in my room.
Race/class for this feel?

>>530246072
A lion doesn't concern himself with the affairs of sheep

>>530246679
I think Botan and WTM disprove that

>be a cheerleader for your favorite sportsball team
>show up to a game one night demanding that you play instead of cheerlead
>you should be allowed to because you have the jersey, the shoes and drank some gatorade ("prebis" and consumes)
>"i know the rules of the game i've been cheerleading for ages dont worry"
>the only thing you manage to accomplish is making the worst player on the team look good by comparison
>demand an even share of the prize money and to be signed on as a player
>teammates had to work harder to cover for effectively missing a player. some consider walking
>"lol relax guys what's the big deal it's only just a game haha you could do this with less ppl tbqh"
that's basically a ret paladin

>amerimutt and sportsball analogy
At least it wasn't food lmao

>>530247714

have to speak on their level
paladins are all brownoids after all

Why do people say AQ kills classic?

>>530247714
lel

>>530249283
because it exposes the 20-30 people who were getting carried through molten core and bwl

No matter how much you brownoids complain, it doesn't matter. If someone takes part in the raid they can SR/roll on what they want (for their spec ofc).
Go join a loot council guild if you care that much. But don't complain when the ret pal femoid the GM is simping over gets the loot instead kek.

>>530249117

>>530249496
unless i don't partake in SR raids or raids with ret paladins. it's just that simple really

>you're average retardin getting RL to give him a spot.

Was looking to play a class I haven't really touched before, so I was wondering if any of the warlock specs are fun

>>530249878
Ban that guy

>>530249283
'nillers can't handle any mechanics more complicated than molten core

We're all going back to Era. Not even sneedvun can save anni realms

>>530250152
I did get on my main and basically saw the trade chat barely going at all. It really did die FAST. I don't know if Era's alive

Should I give retail a try?

>>530250396
Era is starting to pop off again, no cap

>>530249878
How is this even real

>>530250396
tbc will save anni trust the plan

>>530250396
That's a lot of lows...

Not haveing gdkp really killed anni

>>530250787
Why'd they single out GDKP and then just leave boosting alone?

>>530250675
I'm not playing tbc without gdkps, fuck that

the path of a ret chad is not easy

the path of zdps and entitlement is not easy

>>530250912
it was the thing that reddit was pissing and moaning the loudest about at the time

>>530250912
The fatman wanted to score some points with reddittards

>>530251328
this was an instant seethe reply to>>530251232

retards actually pining for gdkp...

retards actually shitting on ret pallys for hours...

retards larping like anni isnt popping atm...

Every paladin I've played with was either a vvhite chvd or a stacy

>>530251867
It's dead in my server... The PVP one is alive though I wanted to play a gnome...

>>530247714
>people working harder than the rest
>working harder
>work
What kind of cope is this?
Who the fuck is "working hard" and not just enjoying the benefits of rage/energy system over mana?

>that guy in your guild that never speaks on comms or Gchat but never misses a raid and just pvmps 99's
tell me about him

>>530252516
probably the actual whitest person in the guild

>>530252516
He's jaded because he knows any time invested in forming relationships is wasted because without a common interest, people you spend hours speaking to one day will never speak to you again once they move on. There's nothing left but to play for the fun of the game.

>>530252516

How do we feel about Trans players?

Why is the Panda faction called tushi

>>530252273
using more brain power than the only 2 neurons that paladins have to rub together to work out the right class to pick at character creation

530251832
instant based reply more like it
because i touched a nerve. poor pinky, the dress getting too tight?

Hate the cata and mop changes to hunter
Will never get used to focus

>>530250728
They're all merged into clusters so it doesn't matter

Damn. Well time to find a new guild.

>>530256184
What does that mean exactly?

>>530256405
It means that its one big server actually

>>530256405
Means that the servers are organised into clusters depending on location/server type
So west pve, west pvp, east pve, east pvp etc

>>530256510
>>530257045
So why show so much servers anyway? It'll make people think its dead.

>>530257085
Because the servers exist separately and are merged, but behave as one.

Name a more unsatisfying way to spend resources than Death Coiling a retard at point blank

If I play a horde warlock in mop what race should I play?

>>530257791
Play an orc or belf. NEVER Undead.

>>530257791
probably troll for minmaxing. but really just play whatever race you like best, the difference isn't that big

>>530257869
Hey fuck you, Undead Warlock is cool Orcs are cooler

Hardcore is the ultimate way to play this game
>alts are virtually nonexistent because it takes too much effort to hit 60 once let alone more.
>every character you see has a story, you see a self found warrior with full green iron set and you know the guy is a fucking gamer
>grifters and rats are immediately shunned by the entire server cause no one wants to lose their character for some dork
>every single zoned is filled, there are no ghost towns like classic Cara/mop where everything beyond current content is dead
>that guy you helped 20 levels ago is still alive, he waves at you in acknowledgment of saving him from Murlocs
>only the extreme try to solo the world, everyone else is grouping up for the quests you would just corpse walk to complete otherwise, so it’s actually an mmorpg

Ah, Azeroth.. how I missed you.

>>530258557
it does recapture some of the spirit that has been lost since 2004, but having 1 life is retarded and always will be
slower paced and more dangerous leveling that encourages grouping would be a good middle ground. that, and punishing death. 1 life is silly, something like xp loss on death might work

This prepatch is fukken dead boys

>>530259272
My shit is lagging beyond belief though

>>530258557
Play a gamemode that forces me to play like a shitter? No thanks.

Death is a core element of wow, and i feel like i am playing hc all the time while playing normal mode on anni, because i am pushing myself to the fullest.

The difference? I die, and i get to continue being an absolute unit.

>>530239693
Transmog runs are BiS gold for the next 3 expansions.
They won't implement major changes to the economy, just 10% buffs to ret paladins.

>>530259272
>>530237302

>ally on arugal OCE
Absolutely dead ass server. What's worse is that dungeon finder only works cross realm with oceanic realms, so it's always dead.

>>530258841
trvke. nobody actually thinks permadeath is a fun mechanic. what people enjoy about hardcore is slowing down, soaking in the world, and investing in your character...but the fact that people need a severe punishment forced on them to make themselves do that is pretty grim. without that threat, people will just take the path of least resistance even if it lessens their enjoyment of the game. blizzard needs to force people to have fun or they will just play in the most boring way possible. that's kind of sad.
I do agree there could be a middleground, something a little more punishing than base vanilla but not as extreme as hc.

So is MoP version of monk worth playing for?

>>530262531
Anything less would just he abused by nolifers anyway. Losing xp or gear being permabroken wouldn’t dissuade them because grinding an xp/h would still he optimised to account for it.

Hardcore is great because there is no fuck around, yes you can get boosted like the streamers but literally no one cares about them, they’re just griefing themselves put of 95% of the game mode to chase “server first this or that”

What retoilets wanted from vanilla was essentially a revitalised world and an RPG and what pserfs wanted was per afresh hardcore is both.

And yes, game devs nowadays absolutely have to force players to have fun, games with virtually no direction or min maxing like Starfield (to be fair, kind of bland) are dead on arrival.

Streamers and YouTubers (and the internet) have ruined video games. Streamers feel forced to be nr1 in either entertainment or performance so they min max, all their sheep viewers ape their playstyle but are too retarded to know how, so YouTubers make mouth breather videos like how to get attuned or what’s your prebis, so now 80% of the server demands prebis, people skip 80% of content because only 20% is relevant. Everyone starts lootwhoring so any loot system gets derailed by people hoarding DKP for BiS, loot councils pool gear to the officers, EPGP goes the same way, GDKPs pop up like crazy because everyone wants the same items so bidding wars commence for hundreds of gold and people all either know the best farms so they have a shitload of gold or they buy it to stay relevant. So now every server is 70% bots to supply the demand but they’re also running the GDKPs to sell the gold back to the player to buy new items because holy fuck I need to stay up to date with everyone else

>>530262531
It's not the same. You can't have the risk of death without an actual risk of death.

>>530258841
>>530262531
>>530264180
The one life thing needs to turn off at 60. That's what pretty much every private server did. WoWs end game content was not designed around one life and it pretty much locks the entire mode to people with 20+ years of experience

This game's main issue is that its impossible for new players to get into it when the opposite was true 15 years ago

>>530260596
You say that like it’s not cool as fuck to be a solo self found rogue running around alterac with skull elites tying to grab herbs to craft frost resist potions to solo Baron Aquanis for outlaw sabre at lvl 25

You can play like an absolute unit in hardcore too with the added thrill that you might die and lose it all. Nobody cares if you’re the 9000000th rogue that killed a grand marshal naked by pressing your world of roguecraft kit.

>>530264572
Plenty of streamers went into the Furfag guild and raided at 60.
>remove permsdeath at 60
Why? You get a free character transfer to a normal server. That makes no sense at all

>>530264180
>>530264292
it will never be more popular than it is now, unfortunately. 1 life makes it far too punishing. even tarkov, a game that is already very niche and known as one of the most punishing fps, isn't as punishing. you lose your gear if you die but all your character progression is still there for you to try again.
"HC-lite" would unironically be more popular and quite frankly the better way to play classic. you need to make death just enough of a pain in the ass to want to avoid, while not making it so punishing that you just want to drop the game after losing so many hours of progress

>>530260596
>i feel like i am playing hc all the time while playing normal mode on anni, because i am pushing myself to the fullest.
And yet you die and keep going as if nothing happened
It's not the same chuddy even if you pretend it is

>>530264572
i agree. HC leveling is fun. raiding with 39 other people whilst only having 1 life is just insanity and i'd never bother with it especially when someone can just intentionally cause a wipe. the over reliance on petrification flasks to circumvent death proves that it isn't even HC lol

Why are all DK players racist

Is there any good way to get a full set of strength items on my old healer paladin from vanilla? I used to just heal back then and now I need to quest a bit to level for MoP.

>>530266246
Just go shockadin

>>530266353
Meaning? The gear I have is basically full t2 and AQ40 weapon/shield. All spell power has been removed and it's just int now I think.

>>530266489
meaning just attack the mobs in healer spec it really isn't that bad.
Stay queued for leveling dungeons inbetween.
Int gives spell power now btw.

>200 active players arugal alliance
>level 30 tanks can't get a dungeon pop (cross realm only within OCE which is dead alliance side)
Grim desu
Wanted to get my wrath hunter to 90 for timeless isles pvp but the server is so incredibly dead
Don't want to xfer to a NA 1 side mega server either
How is the Grobb population?

>>530271254
grobb is pretty dead, not completely but it's on life support. might pick up a bit for MoP but I doubt it. unfortunately seems like wpvp is pretty much a lost cause

>>530272949
The one thing I was looking forward to in mop was wpvp in timeless isles. But every server is either one sided or dead.

>>530276531
exactly why i havent even downloaded mop. not interested in le best pvp expac if i cant even world pvp

>>530276531
yeah it's pretty grim. Blizz should just add war mode and smash some servers together

>>530278145
Even population for the mega servers are dwindling. They need to merge and then implement faction balance like in anni.

>>530249878
>this is still up

Remember when cata had "the best pvp ever" ...? Yea, how did that turn out lol ...

Heal sisters how are we feeling going into MoP?

>>530283857
Washed up retailers try to hype up pvp so they can sell boosts the first month, pvp in Classic has always been dead except for ranking and Wrath arenas

Woah.. Adolf Hitler needs me?

when you're not in the guild clique...

>>530285319
>don't make this more difficult

>>530284103
kind of want to play enhance but will probably end up maining resto sham cause it will be desired, just hope I get the opportunity to flex a bit either way

>>530284394
Damn, you're Hitler's top guy

>Do AQ40 for the battle pets
>Red battle tank drops, neat
>Clean raid
>No pets drop
>Teleport out
>Try to use my new mount
>"You cant use that here"

Is this a bug? I've seen plenty of people use these outside.

>>530284103
I'm having fun!

Hardcore is a fucking joke for the same reason OSRS is. You're a second class citizen if you don't have a youtube/twitch channel.

>SoD losing 7k players per week
>Era gaining around 500 per week
What a bizarre world.

>>530289813
you just know

>>530290991
Why Era - why not anniversary?

>>530293082
Anniversary has megaservers with 30 layers and the world is dead. Everyone is also boosting in stocks/mara/zg instead of leveling in the world.
People don't want to suffer through anni.

>do kara
>not a single pet dropped
>do aq
>not a single pet dropped
>do tk
>not a single pet dropped

just my nigger luck i guess

>>530290991
>>530293082
>>530294331
is Era TBC still a thing? I just want to play best expansion

>>530298020
>Era TBC
No, but everyone has been asking for it for the past two years. It'll depend on what they do with these anniversary servers.

>>530298510
That's just not true buddy
When TBC Classic was live everyone was talking about it as "WOTLK waiting room"

>>530298762
And then they realized how shit Wrath was and quit en masse shortly after Ulduar launched.

>Classic comes out
>wow this actually sucks, TBC waiting room amirite guys??
>TBC comes out
>wow this actually sucks, Wrath waiting room amirite guys??
>Wrath comes out
>wow this actually sucks, FRESH waiting room amirite guys??

no one said that

It always has been MoP waiting room.

Pserver Gods are eating good while we are stuck suffering and being paypiggies to Blizzard.

How did things end up like this?

>>530305247
turns out games are usually better when the people in charge care about them instead of some ceo looking to turn a profit

>>530305247
Epoch Gods .... I kneel ....

https://www.project-epoch.net/news/road-to-launch/

>>530305696
>>530305948
>tbc but worse
just wait for tbc anni lol

>>530227378
I'm still sad I haven't migrated my fully decked character to Era. Those faggots pretending the data is "gone" even if they can track down all your loot history for transmog.

>>530307025
>paying to play with gold selling shitskins
>or play for free

>>530309521
>Paying to pay with gold selling shitskins
>Playing with shitskins for free
You really didn't think this through.

>>530310485
anon..

>>530257869
>>530258019
If it matters, I'm considering a faction swap to play with friends and vanilla lock has a full plagueheart set. I'm not sure which horde race it looks best on.

How do we balance the op rage/energy system to be more like the mana system, or vice versa

>>530314228
In what expansion? Vanilla? Nothing beats rage generation without rage normalization. Energy? Just reduce the cost until you're able to use an ability every GCD. Mana? Same thing, just reduce it to a point where you never run out.
What you should be looking at isn't rage but what rage generation does for you and that is making warriors have something to press every GCD.

>>530315264
>reduce the resource cost of spells so that the resource is irrelevant

Only good takes please

I cast two starfires and go oom, while my 90iq war buddy just keeps going

>>530315706
How is this a bad take? That's literally how they did it in later expansions.
You can even add the eclipse systems where playing correctly reduces the mana cost of your corresponding spells but even then it's literally just doing the same thing, making mana irrelevant.

>>530314228
In vanilla it is balanced around the fact that all the classes who use these alternative systems are melee, I quite like this idea because in all these games, why would you ever want to be melee when you can be ranged? Anyway but since that doesn't apply to speedrunning 20 year old NPCs, retail players will say it's unbalanced but retail "balance" is aids and anti-thetical to a class based roleplaying game.

>>530316008
>the shitty expansions did it, why would it be bad?

Because your answer is to basically just remove mana (trivialise it).
I want a creative answer on how to make the mana syatem better in vanilla.

Toddler and jeet tier answers need not apply

>>530316932
Without re-creating the wheel, you can't. Mana isn't a builder spender like rage is and it doesn't regen at a finite amount like energy. You have a pool and once it's done, you either need to use consumables to replenish it or wand.
Do you really want to have your spells create mana? Then use all of that mana on a huge nuke spell? There's no creativity to be had because mana as a system is dogshit and flawed to begin with.

>still need to do all the quests before being able to do Ny'alotha
kill me

>>530317632

>>530317632
what did he mean by this?

>>530317721
>>530317989
sorry i'm from the future i'm playing classic bfa

>>530317376
>mana doesnt regenerate

I guess thats why they included wanding and spirit, b-but muhh int

Maybe we have been playing the game wrong all this time

The answers are somewhere here

>>530318725
You obviously have something in mind, share it.
>Wanding
You have no idea how boring this is, to even suggest this means you haven't played a caster.
>Spirit
Passive mana regen, so you're shooting down the idea of trivializing mana by focusing on a passive mana generation stat... How do you not see that you're basically achieving the same thing. If there's no input required then how is that different from just making mana irrelevant?

>>530289813
Why are there worgen in Duskwood

>>530319163
>booooring
Okay, but it should be used in specific moments when you need to regen. (Relax zoomie)
>spirit
So the jeets that inherited the game just deleted the stat instead of tuning it

>>530319409
Because you dont read quest text

>>530319516
Don't quit your day job (if you have one). Your ideas are dogshit and unfun. No one plays a caster to fucking wand. Absolutely no one finds this fun.
>Spirit
Again, you haven't answered a single thing I've posted. How is passive mana regen any different from making mana irrelevant?

>>530319163
Regen is a rpg element, its not the same as making every spell cost 0 so you could shoot 24/7

>>530319959
Okay and how are you supposed to use spirit in combat? There's only one class that uses it and that's mage. Are you planning on giving everyone an evocation button?

>>530320115
Its already in vanilla. You stop casting for 5 secs and regen kicks in. (I guess you are a catababy? They always scream about what should be fun and not in their minds)

Just tune this

>>530311528
Belf models are always Armor friendly. The humans of horde

>>530321051

More like temple of knot, lol

>>530321339
Cartoon animal porn XD

moppeds?

>>530321552
Cartoon?

hoesntly, night elves should be the other alliance paladin race and not onions dwarves

>>530320520
This is something only healers ever really use. There's no way you can tune this for DPS and not immediately cause people to complain. No one wants to hold onto their dicks for 5 seconds. Might i suggest getting back to leveling your nth character on a 1.12 stock vanilla realm? It seems to be more of your speed.

Honestly I'm really having a blast with this game. This is my first MMO and doing the sludgefield quest really made me start to love this world.

But I've hit a snag. Got a quest to kill this "yeti lord" elite enemy. The quest even says to get a group. I asked in LFG but got no response. I think my realm is "pyrewood village". Can anyone here help me? I'm level 27.

>>530322267
...why? Dwarves are much closer to humans, genetically, culturally and geographically. As humans are the main harbingers of hammer wielding Light users in The Alliance, obviously dwarves had an easier time than Nelf priestesses

>>530323962
I recommend doing a few dungeons to go up a level or two and try killing him.

>>530322267
Why would the übermench immortal first race even consider a human cultural turdfart such as a being a paladin of the silver hand?

>>530323962
Wow as I made this post a group of adventures walked by me and I chased them to the nearest settlement and asked for help. They were doing the quest too.

That was fun

>>530324607
How do you "do dungeons" in this game? Do you mean just find some mob cave and kill things in there or is it something else?

>>530325729
Look for the green eye symbol on your UI. Left of your bags.

blizzard really is trying to kill classic by doing aq mop and the new retail patch all within two weeks of one another

>>530322683
>No one wants to hold onto their dicks for 5 seconds
Yea, we know you retoilet ADHDbabs hate RPGs. It also synergized well with Inner Focus.

>>530324940
SOUL. If you enjoy this aspect of the game I recommend trying a Classic Anniversary character. You'll find lots of these scenarios. However Mist of Pandaria is better in every other way so good thing you picked it first character

>>530324609

>>530326489
Just go play single player RPGs like Baldur's Gate or something and take your terrible ideas with you.

>>530324940
Hey as an Undead player you get this ability. For some reason Blizzard doesn't give it to your bars as soon as you start playing. And it is kinda hidden but its goated.

>>530326962
Go to retardwow general, the fuck are you even doing in classic?

>>530327532
I'm playing the game, unlike you.

>>530326962
>>530327901
Conservation of mana and timing when you could hit the 5sr was more of a skill cap than mindless button mashing and hittin ya li'l coolies.
Also, go play an action multiplayer game and take your ruinous ideas with you.

>>530328860
What DPS class did this again?

Have they learned their lessons and make TBC attunements account wide and buffs raidwide?

>>530329709
They'll definitely change a lot this time

>>530329709
Soon... soon... They ripped off the nochanges on anni servers, they ripped off the noclassbalance changes on MoP. Except rogues to curbstomp in TBC.

pvmp to javel

>>530330348

>>530330348
.

>>530315706
only thing i can think of is having dots ticks or damage crits increase your mana regen by x for y seconds so your resource economy can scale based on the number of targets and/or stats

Why were the first raid tiers in TBC so scuffed?

>>530226896
no niggers, i'm playing Epoch. who wants to join my guild?

>I now share a CLASSIC Wow general with MoP retail players
what has the world come to. The whole fucking point of classic was to relive the better expansions without gay troon shit

>>530330348

>>530331645
No, its the issue is deeper. Its tied to the pace of mob and boss encounters.

To fix the mana issue they have to gimp the rage/energy systems too.

Ultimately the key is spirit and wanding, where wanding brings back mana as well. Boomkins had a halfbaked melee swings bring back mana, but it was not tuned properly.

The base game just needs to be tuned

>>530331307
>>530331637
>>530332256

>>530330348
>>530332381
JAVELS GYM BRAPPER

https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali/clip/AmusedBlushingJellyfishWutFace-nPUBiTkn3FTYV6_Q

FRESH CRYBOOM

>>530331645
The solution has to be a mechanics and skill solution, not just a passive buff when ever you crit you get mana back.

GYAT

>>530332532
Qrd? I don't play classic.

>>530332812
Imagine wand swings giving stacking mana back buff, where you are incentivised to wand between casts or something similar

>>530332974
why do third worlders love AI? It's something you'd find funny as a kid for a moment and then move on from but for some reason they think it's amazing

>>530333719
ok boomer

https://www.twitch.tv/salvdali/clip/ConcernedSillyHabaneroBlargNaut-dbMFdlh75UKhkSEY

AND ANOTHER CRYBOOM!

>>530334002
you're at least 30 lilbro. Aspergers?

>Epoch is woke
It's over

>>530333719
Lack of taste. You need to be able to recognise when something is shit to be able to find something shit. Thirdies have famously shit taste so they love AI slop is which is really easy to churn out too

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2506257933?t=1h14m46s

NEW

>>530336018
my heckin world buffies

>>530334774
I'm 19/f/cali

Are empty poison vials worth anything on the aunction house? I get them from lock boxes but they seem to be just a relic of a previous patch

>>530336018
you know this guy probably knows why people like you watch him and plays it up. Don't be a retard

>>530336018
these guys have been playing vanilla WoW for how long again?

Feels like Mop isn't going to save wowcg, bros... is our time coming to an end?

>>530342229
MoP is WoD waiting room

>>530342229
Later expansion pre patches are complete dogshit. The only ones that actually felt like massive events were vanilla into TBC and TBC into Wrath.

>>530342229
people doomed about cata too and it maintained a stable pop. it will never be massive again but it will keep trucking along until legion at least.
if you literally mean this general, then yeah, it's fucked. it's not going anywhere, but it's fucked.

>>530342229
we all moved to /wpsg/ bro

>>530342229
this general sucks ass
too many unlikable schizos and samefagging spammer tards

>>530343818
do...do they need a census?

What should I be putting as my priority loot as a warlock in AQ?

>>530344427
Dark storm gauntlets, Eye of C'thun, and Eye Stalk Waistcord.

>>530343365
1. MMOs aren't the fotm genre anymore
2. WoW Classic is past its prime in the mainstream. You won't see something as magical as 2019 again for another 20 years, but on top of that, every time blizzard makes a new "fresh" it waters down the value of starting classic over again when it's still fresh in the minds of the people who played it.

/wowcg/ is fucked because the posters have been split into too many different permutations of the game and people have polarizing opinions on whether or not discussion of some versions of hte game (MoP, SoD, Cata) even belong in this thread, but there's not enough posters for each version of the game to keep individual threads up without randomly 404ing due to low IP count. So everyone needs /wowcg/ to stay together as a thread for different versions of the game, but Blizzard doesn't give a shit because if they can keep a small loyal fanbase on each version of WoW they'll keep them floating.

>>530344631
Again with the 20 years nonsense

>>530346179
again? I haven't said anything about it before, but it's true that mainstream appeal to classic gets watered down if you can play fresh vanilla every 2-3 years.

>>530344631
tl;dr 'nl;cb

>>530346989
but I'm pro-MoP Classic

>>530346675
In every classic general thread there is a brainiac saying you need 20 years of abstinence to recreate some abstract feel of 2019

>>530347819
Explain how that's incorrect.

>>530347819
Are they wrong, tho?

If blizz deleted every version of vanilla for 1 year, you would have the same hype.

My proof? Gtfo furries

>>530348182
>>530348265
its incorrect because it doesnt matter how many years it takes. wow classic was the first time blizzard rereleased an old version of wow and you cant just repeat that feeling the same way you cant repeat a 2004 release

>>530348874
Sure, that's fair. It's safe to say that no casual dad gamer will be trying vanilla WoW again. That's why anniversary is in such a shit state, only addicted spergs are left to play. That's why RMT, and speedrunning culture is so rampant. The people left aren't playing the game for fun, they're doing it out of some sense of self-worth.

>People want a balanced Classic+ in which meme specs are made relevant
>But they don't want Horde Paladins and Alliance Shaman

>>530350604
No one said that.

Do they nerf money drops from old raids in MoP? I get easy 20k +mog drops by doing vanilla and tbc raids on three chars.

>>530350604
No one wants a retailed classic experience get out

Thinking about it now, Classic+ coming after TBC makes the most sense. TBC is the closest to what Classic+ should be while still missing some obvious things, namely better class tuning.

>>530351720
It'd be impossible to make specs like Ret Paladin and Enh Shaman not complete jokes without either making them available to both sides, or stripping them of everything that made them unique and giving it to other classes like they did with SoD.

>>530351882
>or stripping them of everything that made them unique and giving it to other classes like they did with SoD.
Which is funny because rets are still superior in every way possible. The only spec that's even remotely good right now for shaman is elemental.
However, the biggest reason classic have these perceived notions of sucking is because of WCL deciding what counts and what doesn't.
Look at 40 man parses: https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2018?size=40&dataset=90
Now look at 20 man parses: https://sod.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/2018?dataset=90
Ele is squarely in the middle on 40 because adds count while they're poop in 20 man because none of the add dmg counts despite those adds still existing.
Blizzard needs to remove the API to parse combatlog data.

>>530351882
>giving both factions ret pallys and enh shams
Explain how this makes these specs not complete jokes.
>stripping them of their identity
I havent played season of jeetdevcontent so dont know dont care about what they did or how relevant that is to anything.

>excited to play new talent
>passive in the same row is better

>>530352826
If they made the meme specs good in a cool way like they did TBC by giving them buffs and debuffs that help the raid, then they'd need to make them either available to both factions so that the content isn't dictated by which faction you're playing, or strip them of everything that made them unique like they did in "season of jeetdevcontent" where they gave windfury to druids and blessing of kings to hunters.
>>530352371
Kill all parsers.

best way to farm gold in MoP prepatch?

is classic hc still poppin off? just got the urge to play. zero interest in lvl 60 shit maybe just gonna lvl to 40-50 and quit like every time just wanna know if zones are dead or not

>>530354913
Anni and hc leveling zones are alive and well

>>530355439
based

>WCL discord already wanting to remove all add damage from MoP logs

Can't wait to wipe constantly due to no melee touching adds.

>>530357447
blame people like Orlando gaming the system for 2 extra dps so he can parse rank 1

>>530357671
Orlando bvlast when? Moppie gdkp

>>530357671
I was in bipolar for a month as a trial warrior but left after I realized how the guild is structured—the entire raid exists just to fuel his parse. My first week he looted the cthun healing mace to himself for his diamond flask set instead of giving it to a healer that needed it. By week 2 of raiding with them I had an assignment as a backup juju might on his barov peasant #2 in case the inner fire priest didn't use it. Week 3 I was asked to use Annihilator to rid the boss of the last 36 armor after imp ea ff and cor were applied for his parse. Week 4 he sent out an announcement saying that all warriors and hunters were required to try and farm Blackblade of Shahram so that he could put people with it in his group and have them spam only hamstring the whole fight to try and proc the buffs for him. It was the type of guild where if he got dispelled he'd make the whole raid wait up to 48 hours just so he could get full buffs again.

Tl;dr: Ahlaundoh is carried phase after phase to the #1 spot by warriors like Eljay who can apply 5 sunders to the Skeram clones before Skeram even splits.

Why dont people make their owm guild and rules even though they should?

Instead they rather act like abused wives

>>530357995
Where do I unsub from your blog?

^newfag

>hated the idea of mop classic
>finally come around and think may be fun, at least the pvp especially timeless isles wpvp
>realise that every single server is one-sided
There goes my hopes and dreams

>>530344631
This attitude ignores the simple fact that anything post-Wrath and in some circles, post-vanilla is considered Retoilet.

Mists of Pandaria and fucking Cataclysm do not belong in a Classic WoW gen. Blizzard's cashgrab at zoomer nostalgia for their chinese slop does not justify hijacking what was a dedicated, insular community of individuals passionate about the genre.

>>530359809
Can't you kill you're own faction in the timeless isle?

>>530359809
i dont much care for mopslop but isnt the PvP argument usually made in terms of Arena and BGs as to what made it so good? I dont think MoP's WPvP was ever super hyped up.

>>530360140
>the only hyped up part is the one you can sell boosts and carries
Mmmmmh.

>>530358513
have you ever made a guild? i mean one thats actually successful? its a lot of hard work

>>530360515
I see, we are helpless

>having trouble with the infernus elemental enemy
>died to him so much my armour broke
>fly back to undercity determined to win
>"I know, I'll buy potions of fire resistance"
>none in the auction house
Now what...

>>530359931
nobody "hijacked" anything, most of the people playing Cata and MoP were also around during vanilla-Wrath and have just stayed in the same community as the servers progressed. some people chose to go along with that progression and others didn't, but there was no invasion or hijacking, just a split in the growth of the same original community. it's not anybody in the community's fault, it's just the natural consequence of the game being splintered into so many different versions.

I don't think many people would actually have a problem with splitting this general up and having one for vanilla purists and another for classic progression servers. the problem, as that anon pointed out, is that neither would have enough activity to keep their generals up. this one barely stays afloat as it is. we either learn to live with eachother or this community dies out altogether. or, more likely, we just keep seething and bickering at eachother until the end of time.

>>530360140
Arena and BGs were good yeah. But my favourite time in MoP was running around timeless isle doing wpvp.

>>530359809
>>530360140
Trust the plan. Grobbulus will return to prominence with MoP and we'll actually have a wpvp server again.

>>530361661
Yeah, the "bring on the pandas" people were here all along. I know people who didn't play classic consistently until TBC/Wrath and didn't really like vanilla/TBC.

Worst case scenario the thread splits and moves to /vm/ where the other dead generals go

>on mankrik
>join lfg
>see this

>>530364202
>shitskin
>pink

>>530364202
>Surprised people talk Spanish on the Spanish majority server
Hmmm...

>>530364947
pretty sure faerlina is the shitskin server

I don't know which of these to get. Nerve strike seems kinda good but combat readiness isn't clear how effective it is. Don't see why I'd get the throwing knife move though unless I always played in a group

>>530366529
I pick the middle because it looks cookest

>>530366529
nerve strike and combat readiness are probably pretty comparable, both situational defensives, just pick whichever you like better

>>530364947
That's Faerlina, hermano.

The usa is racist as fuck ngl

Need a 'vún 'sus STAT

>namedropping yourself like we're just supposed to know who you are

MOP SISSIES

OH NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>530384515
MoP won.

>>530384583
MoP wins nothing becuase all MoP servers are one sided megaservers.

>>530385579
You're gonna regret this post when ironforge.pro updates and we see a huge uptick on Grobbulus

Thank god the third worlders starve and NEETs who dump half their disability checks on Iranian gold seethe

GDKP finally dead

>but dooooood!! I need to buy consumes!!!!!

>>530388087
Yeah bro from 500 a side to 700 a side

>>530388273

>>530352371
you're mind is absolutely broken. Elemental is possibly the most OP pvp spec in classic and enhance is fun in pvp too, with Resto shaman being completely fine in pve. People like you are the reason retail exists, why did you come back to classic when you clearly don't even enjoy it?

>>530388087
Let me put it this way, If eu had a grob I would be playing mop

>elemental de agua

>can't even launch the game
nice game blizzdrones

>>530398997
wtf me too. This won't even be fixed till Americans wake up either

most good ppl xferd off grobb or barely play

>>530400182
I doubt any grobb chads would xfer to a one sided megaserver

FACT: hpal is gonna be #bussin
FACT: paladinGODS deserve buffs
FACT: your wife/gf was likely pleasured intensely by a white-skinned hpalTITAN
FACT: inviting paladins is intelligent and evropean

>>530402812
lol

If not for the progression servers wow classic community might not be "split" but the community would be 10,000 active player shard instead of 10 000, 100 000 and 300 000 player shards. If not for the progression servers, I wouldn't even be playing. I had enough of classic in 2019.

>>530391440
>Unironically bringing up PvP in SoD
Lmao. Go back to whatever drug infested shithole you crawled out of.

Can somebody help me out real quick and tell me which one of those installers is the correct one for Classic Mists of Pandaria?

Because the only one labelled MoP is the PTR installer, so I'm not sure. Thanks in advance.

>>530418316
cataclysm classic

>>530418748
Thanks!

>>530375981
right here is from july 5th fren
https://streamable.com/9boynw

Why is it so hard to get fucked on Classic?

>>530419889
Bloody hell what's the size of that cat?!

>>530420325
looks petty good

>>530249878
so real life porn is allowed? since this is up from last night

>>530425553
if the janny likes it? sure

ready to farm bugs so your gm can get his mountie?

>>530426354
its not mount farming because i click the big from my inventory

>>530426354
battling made up demons in your own head again

>>530426354
You will farm the bugs
You will live in a cave for two weeks
You will hand over bugparts worth thousands of gold for nothing.

>>530426354
>implying you woulndt if you're gm looked like this

>>530427028
this better be a man

>>530426354
whats the point of doing it? what could they possibly do for me that would justify spending hundreds of hours helping them?

>>530427604
You don't understand, your GM put a lot of work into the guild, like setting up a discord bot to post raid signups and uhm uhm .... a lot more

>>530333221
>Imagine wand swings giving stacking mana back buff, where you are incentivised to wand between casts or something similar
Sounds gay. A "builder" spell would be better. No one wants to do gay shit like wanding to get mana back. That would be like telling warriors and rogues they have to tickle the enemy to build their resources.

How do we cope with never getting classic plus, sisters?

You take the blue pill, everything stops. You stay in Anniversary. You farm the bug mountie for your GM and his transgf and the other officer.

You take the red pill, and you play MoP Classic and I'll show you how retail classic can get as we spiral towards WoD.

>>530421989
it's a normal size cat hiding in one of those model train tunnels, so with the way the camera is set up it looks like a real life tunnel with a giant cat a first.
you can even see that the floor plate on the left is bending becaus its just plastic.

>>530429673
vun pill me on mop

>>530420917
Is bloodsail buccaneers the erp realm?

>>530429962
Me attacking barbarians on Faerlina horde.

>>530430556
Me attacking pinkies.

>>530430798
pinkies are based if they're holy or prot, tho

>>530431287

need a mop census pronto

>>530431595
need a grobb prepatch census

>>530431595
would be funny if anni had more activity

>>530249878
>lilijunex
>zero sound
the sound effects are what makes her content fucking unreal

>>530432195
I doubt it, most mop servers are now either full or high

>>530431535
Oh hey it's that troglodyte rapebaby again

>>530434603
Varg? Why would you say that? Sure he's a bit eccentric.

>>530435719
He's a pagan retard that worships a catholic, the other anon is right

>log onto warrior I haven't played since Ulduar
>hotbar looks like this

I don't even know where to start filling it...

>>530437285
>heckin weakaura suites
shitter

>>530437285
nelf pvmp

>>530437437
>nooooo you need to constantly watch the top left of your screen to see bufferinos and procs!!!

Kys.

>>530438015
I've made a grave mistake.

why does that orc female have a penis

>>530438364
pp makes it better.

>>530428254
Im a firm believer that you are absolutely rerarded and the devs should not listen to the players in what is fun or not

>>530438364
>that
All of them have one.

world buffs that persist through death and no boss mechanics is a niller cryboomers dream

>>530427028
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke or are you insulting the poster. I agree he's probably a simp

Did I finish the forsaken main quest? I go to the part where Godfrey shoots sylvanas in the back. She survives and goes off to the undercity. Is there more to this quest? I saw her in the undercity and she just gave me another one of those "report to this guy" quests

>>530442856
that particular plotline ends in SFK, so run that dungeon if you want to 'know what happens'. but you probably already guessed. iirc you go to hillsbrad after silverpine

>ctrl+f niller
>3 results
>no flaming
>people actually discussing WoW
>thread is 2 days old
>retoilet troon lesser races all self deported
TOTAL FURGAGGOT SURRENDER TOTAL WHITE VICTORY!!!!

>decide to mess around on my old HC characters i haven't touched in months
>log in and fly to winterspring to finish up some quests and get a hang of keybinds etc.
>on the second mob i pull there's a server-wide mass DC
>come back to a ghost on character selection screen
ebin

>>530444591
Hc is a meme LOL.

>>530249878
why is there porn here from day ago???? janies wtf?

>>530446660
they only care if you say something transphobic or racist

>>530444591
I like hc a lot but there's no way I'd play it on Blizzard servers. What a retarded way to die, unlucky.

>>530446660
I only see a paladin class discord picture

>>530249878
>size doesnt even matter bro

I posted a picture of Sylvanas in dark colored see-through lingerie and was banned for 3 days

>>530444570
>mop so bad even the funposters left
BOLUMES

>>530448438
>mop so bad even unironic mop shills left before the expac released***
even I didnt hate on the pandatranny expac hard enough to think that would happen tbqh

lol they unironically broke pvp by removing scaling. Fucking retards complaining they had to do more than zug zug healers to kill them

now welcome to 50% HP chimera shots

I didn't realize how important PVP scaling was until I played season of discovery. It's basically rocket tag. Shaman's at level 50 were capable of two shotting most classes and some classes they were capable of one shotting. And that was with an instacast ability.

>>530449626
resilience isnt working atm

>>530450337
chvds with heroic gear are shotting newbs coming back to the game

>>530448323
Size is like a drug, the more you do it the more you need it. In other words, never go full retard with sex.

Is there any reason in MoP to use heroic strike as Arms?

>>530429483
Did Quel'thalas get destroyed or how did they find enough room for a new zone?

Is there a MoP class survey somewhere? I'm wondering if there's gonna be more plate or leather(agi) DPS users.

we are so back

grim

Just coming back to the game from Naxx basically, and want to play a monk in mop (my retail main ever since that expansion). How bad is leveling now? Should I just buy a boost?

>>530457559
wrong thread, troon

>>530457903
this is a classic thread and MoP is classic, he is right where he belongs! :3

>>530457559
Leveling is ezpz. Only problem right now is that exp buff gets removed when entering dungeon. Will be fixed in the next reset though.

>>530457903
>>530458151
I don't know I rarely post desu this just seemed like the best place to. I'm sorry if I am in grievous error
>>530458376
ty friend

Am i playing fire mage wrong? Just spamming fire ball until i get heating up, then hot streak into a pyro? Is that it? I'm almost 50 and kinda bored. Does it get better with higher crit chance and more abilities?

>>530459442
Yes. Almost all classes play like hot ass before getting to level 80.

>>530459442
mage is pretty simple

>>530444570
they were banned for posted porn that I report every time

>>530460635
Lol.

*raises hand*
Does having an item that boosts a profession stat negatively effect it's levelling? I have a shovel that gives 10+ herbalism. Or is EXP not effected by level

>>530461412
no

where is alex? are we getting an epoch arc?

Man it's so difficult to decide. I feel like Priest is generally going to be easier to get groups with in TBC, but having to healslut at 60 sounds kinda boring. Mage seems solid in both but maybe hard to find groups with. Arcane is really good in TBC, right?

Is levelling up herbalism meant to be this slow and painful?

>>530467116
no. I always found it the easiest gathering prof to level, there's herbs everywhere

>>530461412
A herb may be gray/green with the shovel on, and green/yellow without it, then it is negatively effecting your skilling.

When a herb is red but orange with the shovel then it is positively effecting your skilling.

>>530465483
mages aren't meta in tbc

>>530454361
there was one on reddit yesterday, not sure if that's a great sample but here

https://poll-maker.com/poll5531203x631041f7-164

addon devs that use AI slop for their addon icon need to be shot
Having a shitty MSpaint icon in curseforge is a rite of passage

>>530468568
I don't care if they are necessarily meta, I just want to play something that can at least get into groups.

>>530468720
mage is S tier dps in tbc but you need your whole raid to suck you off to deal that kind of damage

>Pick shaman in TBC
>any role/spec I want
>get into any raid group I want
>GMs try to befriend me simply because im a shaman

>>530468720
tank then. there's gonna be a surfeit of healers

>>530469006
I don't care for tryharding too much in classic content, I just want to play and enjoy the game.
>>530469060
I do like the idea of playing a Paladin tank, but leveling one in vanilla is pretty boring (already done it thrice before), and world PvP especially is quite unfun. That's why I was looking to Mage and Priest.

>>530469251
mages are the most in demand class for dungeons
tanks are sought after for dungeons too but it's much harder to raid as a tank than a dps

>>530469056
and then comes wrath and they bench your ass.

>>530469348
That's good to hear. I was leaning towards Mage anyway since they are such a solid class in vanilla.
I was considering going Shaman for TBC but I really do not like the noises Draenei make unfortunately.

>>530467116
MOP? Its bugged and not giving enough skill points. Wait for next reset for them to fix it.

>>530469056
That didnt happen, propagandizing animetroon spammer

>>530469516
they were supposed to fix it today but it might be tomorrow

>>530469471
skill issue

>>530469665
they ended up breaking a bunch of other stuff. like if you're in a secondary spec and change zones your action bars reset lol
at least they fixed my broken profession tab I guess.

>>530470203
Sure was good to have 3 weeks of raid testing when the base game doesn't work.

Not even vun can save m*p, it's over

>>530465483
The right one is hotter so pick that

history repeats itself rip wowcraft

Faerlina census is not looking good, it is downright funky. I spent an hour or so making the anniversary addon work for moppy. Vun

>>530474554
I took 20 minutes using the version on Curseforge to do Grobbulus nonny

two nights to do aq40? are nillers serious?

>>530474659
How is grobby doing?

>>530474554

>>530474554
why would you play on the spic realm? o.0

spicvun

>>530475265
Monday night census, only ran for 20 minutes a faction but was able to scan everyone online.

Alliance

1213 characters online
Most played classes:
Monk 21.43%
Druid 11.13%
Paladin 10.14%

Most played races:
Human 41.22%
Pandaren 17.72%
Night Elf 16.16%

Horde

1123 characters online
Most played classes:
Monk 23.33%
Druid 8.99%
Priest 8.82%

Most played races:
Blood Elf 22.53%
Pandaren 19.15%
Orc 17.36%

Total Online: 2336

>>530475823
Just testing my addon, no idea where and if I will play

>>530476024
thats actually a really good balance for a pvp server

>>530476024
Huh, less dead than I expected, neat.

>2k players
Meanwhile Turtie has x5 that pop

>>530476859
>>530477068
I'm going to see what it looks like Friday night during primetime, probably up to 4,000 concurrent.

/ourschizo/ is back on 'cord
iykyk

Which EU anniversary server has a healthy horde pop?
Don't care if it is pvp/pve.
Got the itch again.

>>530477224
https://streamable.com/jz6jzh

Here is Faerlina, classes tab is overlapping and my progress bar is wrong. Also i need to rework my search for moppy so it doesn't take so long.

>>530479685
Unfortunately this doesn't show what percentage of the server has their client language set to Spanish

>>530479483
Why would you level horde its gruesome

The most sovlful race combo in mop is tauren priest.

>>530480013
if you're a redditor maybe

>>530479685
this is embarrasing, fix your shit before posting again

>>530480281
fair enough

>>530479843
I played alliance in 2019 up till wotlk classic so want to change the scenery now.

>>530482664
What's your poison this time around?

>haven't played since January
Nigslayer bros? I only see people saying Grob...

>>530483065
Undead warlock and then belf paladin once tbc rolls around.

>tfw you can't choose a class so you log into 4 different characters 8 times a day to try to level them

I think i'm just gonna do a Hunter. Warrior is a disgusting brownie, Rogue is not played a lot and i enjoy the combat, but it's another melee cuck and there's gonna be a million WW's to steal your gear, Paladin is just.. paladin, nobody's hyped about them except maybe some holy cucks. Either way, Hunters can bring almost any buff to a group, so i'll surely be get in every time.

Thanks for reading my blog.

>>530485320
Undead questing is kino compared to durotar, wise choice. Feels like the devs gave up half way through developing durotar.

what was that patch for?

>>530488991
warrior is the only fun class

>getting beating by rsham parsing blue while im parsing in the 90's
mop is gonna be rough hpal bros

>>530495762
>healer parses

>>530488991
play frost 2h dk, literally 2 buttons but the dps mechanic is pure dopamine since if you proc a lot you just do unbeatable dps, and even without its good dps from what i recall from my MoP raiding days.

i was in a 10 man guild and my arms bro and me were the heavy hitters in our raid team

>>530488991
paladin is basically the god class come tbc and onward, so best get to leveling one

>>530503353
nobody is playing tbc lol

can you believe this dogshit company completely broke prepatch pvp holy shit

>>530517712
everything in prepatch is broken. launch is going to be such a mess if they don't get this shit sorted out. their update today that was meant to fix stuff just ended up breaking even more things.

what will be more played, rogue or ww monk?

This is so much more dead than the Cata prepatch it's actually insane. Also more biggy than pservs.

>>530518068
probably monk

mop was unironiocally my favorite expansion and i played them all until WoD and it was all because the friends i made along the way

that said its probably a crock of shit discounting that, and i dont want to taint my memories by playing :(

>>530526202
mop classic will be just frog farming and raiding

Loving the mop kvetching

Total mop death

>>530526491
msv, hof and tot were all some amazing raids but again i dont really want to subject myself to the screaming xbox live crowds that play this game nowdays

>>530527508
it's the same as back then, it all depends on the group you play with. find a decent guild and avoid pugs and you should have a good time

>>530527795
do you have luck just digging thru trade chat? tahts how i found my 2013 raiding guild. i'd rather kms myself than go thru some realm discord bullshit

>>530527982
discord is way better for filtering out guilds, most that advertise in trade chat are trash but idk you might get lucky. disc is pretty much a requirement to playing WoW these days, everybody uses it for raid signups and voice chat. nobody is forcing you to put pronouns in your bio and chat in the server meme page. it's just a tool and it's what you make of it. but if you're so stubborn that you won't touch it, then good luck raiding at all.

they didnt like this one

>>530526202
>and i dont want to taint my memories by playing :(
Are you a faggot, tranny or a woman.

>>530530158
Yes

JAVELS GYM BRAPPER IS SO FIRM AND ZESTY.

this general is dead as fuck
do you get anything cool with inscription in mop aside from the darkmoon cards? feels like that market will die as soon as the next raid tier releases and the trinkets arent bis anymore

>>530539707
trinkets will remain bis for cm modes

Pandaren are so fucking soul its unreal
I cant wait for MoP bros

'niller cryboomer wellness check

>>530249878
>its still up
>but words that trigger you are an instant no no
amazing

what is blud yapping about

>>530527508
>msv
>hof
>amazing raids
what fucking retard gaslit you into believing this

i know why the caged niller sings

>buyed FIVE 85 store boosts
>payed 200k on EACH to get carried in DS
what the FUCK is wrong with this slob

You now remember Mariaqt

>>530539707
>this general is dead as fuck
we're all in /wpsg/ now. turtle is the classic+ blizzard will take another 3 years to build and epoch (turtle+), drops in 2 weeks. might come back for the TBC pre-patch though.

>>530539707
i'm having loads of fun pvping in av and generally enjoying the game

>>530545936
..and yet you watched it and gave him money and a little bit more internet fame?? curious

>>530547340
i didnt tho, people in the classic 'cord are laughing at him

>>530545936
tax write-off

I know you can mute the files, but goddaamn these procs are getting out of hand. This bug is still not fixed, moppies confirmed as second class citizens.

>>530547462
I know about class and realm discords, but wtf is the classic discord?

>>530527508
>to the screaming xbox live crowds
God, I WISH that's who it was. Instead it's smarmy little snitches that sit quietly looking for dissenters they can sell out to the progressive stasi, which has a deadening effect on the community at large.
More silly kids lashing out like that would be a blessing, rather than seething in silence, looking for anyone to votekick and/or report for stepping out of line, or displaying a modicum of personality or opinion.

>>530453387
In other words it's over unless she's a virgin or you are well above average

>>530542557
When is it?

>>530552739
21st

>>530549612

>>530545936
>payed

And he will get the money back in a month by selling cards from his 9 inscription alts.

>>530549612
Probably done shit that has been hijacked by trannies like every server and class discord.

where is Alexensual? epoch launches in 2 weeks and not a word from this faggot. is he okay?

>>530557691
There are plenty of e-bfs in the sea, anon.

>>530226584 (OP)
uhhh... dat hip to shoulder ratio is looking a little off. is there a pixelated tiny wang inside of that swimsuit or are all "female" night elves post-op?

Have they patched herbalism yet?

>>530558061
you misunderstand. i am not a homosexual. i just think it would be fun to join an alex guild on a new server for the lulz. if he doesn't come back for epoch after hyping it for like 2 years, it's truly over. there will be no more future alex arcs.

>they don't know /ourschizo/ is back and active on 'cord

Just tried my first ever dungeon and I got kicked after dying

>>530561468
jeanne sexo

>im a ret chad

Which one of you degenerates is this?

>>530558391
They haven't patched proc sound spam, but yes herbalism is working now.

>have to wait until mop launch to complete my pvp pet battle team

>>530251867
If GDKP ban was because of RMT, then looking at these mage boost prices, they should definitely fucking ban that too. No way all these niggas aren't buying gold for boosting.

>>530564204
>GDKP ban was because of RMT
It was bad for the community.

>mage boost
>they should definitely fucking ban that too
Totally and for multiple reasons.

never cheat, never lie
vanilla fresh until i die!!!

>>530566616
Need Sally to lock me up in chastity

>>530561468
Incentivizing this behavior is one of the worst decisions they've ever made.

>>530566616
Why do you guys want a new fresh when fresh isn't even over yet? Or is it because farming bug carapaces for your GM's mountie is when the game becomes retail since you're technically farming a mount?

>>530559996
alex cord invite link?

>>530570760
vanilla is the best game in the world as long as the server is <2 weeks old

>>530570760
fresh isn't fresh when everyone has cleared naxx 1000 times not that long ago. even accelerated phases are not going to keep people wanting to keep playing or talk about the game.

what people want is Fresh+ or even TBC, which is 6 months out. unless you play on pserves that is, where we have a fresh coming up in 2 weeks. unfortunately, epoch scripting is broken as fuck and not ready to launch, but it will be fun either way.

>resist the cheapshot
>fem human with porn name
>windfury, hoj, darkmoon card and earthshock crit
>walk away on full hp
is there a better feeling?

>>530251867
>retards larping like anni isnt popping atm...
it's not. mazed rats can't "pop" anything. literally no one cares about anni until TBC pre-patch, and enthusiasm for that is luke-warm at best.

>>530571630
lovumes

>>530571630
and yet theres people everywhere, even in leveling dungeons

>>530252981
just like we feel about trans players in real life. they are gay and obnoxious. no one wants to hear about or have to participate in your fetishes.

>>530571883
there are people everywhere on turtle too, guess its poppin off

>>530571883
i am not saying classic wow is bad or even unpopular. it's just that no one cares at the moment.
>>530571883
>and yet theres people everywhere, even in leveling dungeons
this doesn't change anything. there are more people "everywhere" and in dungeons on turtle wow. literally, too, if we take all realms into consideration and not just the 10k pop english speaking server.

>>530252981
They should shut up about drumpf, stop fighting their parents because of trooning out and being perpetually homeless, and get to work on the next fucking video. It's been a year.

That means you, Barny.

>>530572362
IATA
>>530572182
IANTA
>inb4 samefagging.
amazing that two independent posters both concluded that turtle is more "popping" than classic. which is actually true. the /wpsg/ thread has been moving at 5-10x the pace of this one for like 6 months.

anni died during the wait for BWL to launch, and this is facts. and then completely died with rank 14 unlock.

again, i love OG wow in all forms. but Blizz Classic is currently dead. hopefully TBC brings back some excitement, cause i def want to play it.

>>530571630
The mazed rats are literally playing MoP. I say this as someone playing it. The same strung out on stimulants vibe as retail.

>>530550189
No, you can be avarage but she has to not have sex regularily (as in every day or so).

This is only a issue for zoomies that are 13-28. After 30 years of age (hopefully) you realize that sex is not the focal point (and its actually kind of monkey retarded).

Sex is used to manipulate young men out of their money most of the time.

>>530564204
I agree, ban boosts, but there are tons of customers because
>i value m-muh time

>>530572182
>>530572362
>mentioning turtle wow

Ok faggot, gtfo out of classic wow general

>>530575249
>no argument
dang

>>530576893
Your indirect pserver shilling had no argument in the first place

>>530577015
all i did was point out the same reasons for why you believe anni is popular, though.

>>530577361
I am currently leveling in anni and you can find or make a dungeon group even at the unholiest od hours (when i play).

Lots of people leveling, you will never find yourself without help for elite quests. I would say its a good time to play.

You have an illogical urge to shit on this by mentioning pservers.

>b-but its not 2019 h-h-hype

Who gives a fuck

Does every expansion need a remake of scarlet monastery?

>>530578172
not shitting on, just pointing out the similarities

>>530579326
devs cant stop pvmping to whitemane

>>530580072
for me its jandice barov

>>530580541
Based.

>>530581297
What compels this coomer behavior. Instead of finding, saving, posting and masterbating to shit images like this you can just find a girl and put your dick down her throat for free. So sad for a 35 year old male

>>530580541
mop really made her sound like a whore

>>530582058
I still miss Sylvanas' OG voice

>>530580541
>>530581297
>seems you can join scholo in epoch
Way better option than the usual Incel Crusade.

>>530578172
I see 0 people doing SM on thunderstrike realm.

why did blizzard sabotage tbc FRESH

>>530586571
how is it sabotaged?

>>530577015
>Your indirect pserver shilling
turtle doesn't require shilling since it has won. i just happen to play there as well.

>>530249878
still up

how will epoch do?

>>530586791
they switched it into a vanilla FRESH

Thread is full of pserver shitters

desu i purposely dont mention it but ive been playing by myself on a dead pserver this entire time and not actually on hc servers

>>530588037
>dead pserver this entire time and not actually on hc servers
These are the same picture

>>530588631
yea... but its a lot harder

https://www.twitch.tv/lightskinjesus973/clip/DarlingModernHummingbirdM4xHeh-d4jA-1OSMJZxEkef
'nillers are so retarded holy

FIX THE FUCKING BUGS IN PREPATCH!

>>530591178
wrong thread troon

>>530593161
This is the Classic WoW thread, aka Vanilla, HC, SoD and MoP

>>530593308
we need more classic versions
thread is still too useable

>This is the Classic WoW thread, aka Vanilla, HC, SoD and MoP

oh boy the daily 'niller meltie

>>530591131
pls tell me this guy's first time playing wow is hardcore

>shadowguard visual only looks cool in TBC
>the spell effect is in 'niller in uldaman when channeling at the altars
dayum shame

WHEER MY DREAMSYTHE NIGGAS AT

incredible that K the P is still here relapsing after being kicked out of FF14 lol

>>530591178
seriously it's borderline unplayable. launch is not looking good at this rate.

>>530584745
>playing a pve sever
even I knew this was pathetic and gay in 2006 lmao

>>530598980
>>530584745
Theres literally hundreds of 29+ in sm atm on alliance thunderstrike

>twitch frog
you know the drill

>>530599879
why would you go to sm at 29

Remember when Blizzard was good?

>>530601532
Because gy is 29+ retoilet

>>530602092
why would you do gy as alliance

>>530602047
POV: you're green

>sloppa
good morning saar

>>530602047
>AI slop
yuck

>>530602220
Because it is a common grind spot not just for exp but good trash loot

>>530602047
she needs pubes

>>530602538
>>530602569
uh oh, the white larper isn't going to like this...

>>530600923
Wow Classic and its derivatives exists solely because of twitch.

We all love twitch here.

>>530602875
Twitch didn't exist in 2004 thoughbeit

>>530602047
open vagina for me pliis i receive you in india call me 03246 853915 924722 :heart: :joy:

>>530602586
its too far tho

>>530603116
Then dont do it faggit

nillers be like "the world is the journey and the game" as they sit in Scarlet monastery from lvl 30 to 45 and then from 45 to 50 in Zul'farrak

>>530603314
Im only going to do sm once for the q.
Its not relevant for my cat druid

>GM is a healer
>he's already making groups for cm runs
>I'm also healer and will never get in
Sigh .... time to grind gold to buy a boost I guess

>>530603691
this is why I dual spec. prove you can kick ass as heals or dps and you will always have a group. as long as you can get gear for both specs that is.

>>530603314
uh oh

Yo I'm so confused
Never played Cata/Pandaria. Trying to level rn and I quested to 15, dungeoned to 20, I've outleveled the quests where I was, but I can't find any new quests in the following zones, and there's nothing on the "Warchiefs Command Board"?
Do I really have to go back and do all quests in order even if they're grey to me??
Googling this shit with 25 live Wow versions is a nightmare.

>>530604140
>unironically leveling when you can just buy a max level boost
are you retarded?

>>530603314
there arent any vendors near sm i dont want to farm there

>>530604269
It's stupid expensive and I'm poor rn

>>530604269
>Pay a ticket to watch a movie
>pay more to read the 60 second long version of it
this is (You)

>>530604269

>>530604364
That would apply if expansions were not destructive towards past releases.

>>530604572
>noooo muh heckin old content invalidation
when was the last time you did a full clear molten core during Naxx phase that isn't for just one guy's legendary?

>>530604140
kek horde nigger

>>530604140
weird there isn't a breadcrumb quest on the command board, but just hover over the zones on the map and they'll show you a level range. show up and I'm sure there will be some quests. off the top of my head, you can go to Ashenvale or Hillsbrad at 20 if you're Horde, Wetlands or Duskwood if Alliance. or just do a couple more dungeons until a new breadcrumb quest pops up.

>>530604682
I was replying to
>>530604364

>>530604882
That's what I thought would happen so I ran around Ruins if Gilneas and Hillsbrad, checked out Ruins of Southshore and Tarren Mill, but no a single quest.
Thanks for the tip though

mopedo

>>530604269
>>530604358
Retoiletbros...........

>retail out of nowhere

>>530605274
Retoiletbro......

Would you rather be an Annisister or a MoPbucket?

>>530605082
that's weird. you should be able to pick up this quest to start Hillsbrad.
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/quest=28096/welcome-to-the-machine

I'm pretty sure the breadcrumb is optional, but in case it isn't check the comment on here, it lists the requirement. looks like you have to start the Silverpine quests, you don't have to finish them though.
https://www.wowhead.com/cata/quest=28089/warchiefs-command-hillsbrad-foothills#comments

>unironically leveling in mop prepatch while anni is popping

>>530605929
Yesterday was raid night though

What, you saying I should level another "toon" on anni instead of making my panda alt?

>unironically growing a bond with your character
boostie retoilets will NEVER get this simple trick to enjoy the game

>>530605572
Blizz funserver is over so I'm an Ecuck now.

>>530605572
annisisters are cuter but a little old

>>530606067
I'm so emotionally bonded to the character that I leveled 1-10 by myself, then afked in dungeons while Brazilian/Iranian mages cleared them over and over for me

>>530606067
if you have more than 2 characters you cant bond anymore btw

>>530606484
damn just like sex

>>530606067
If you're so "bond" where's your mounts/pet/cheevos collection? Yeah, that's what I thought.

>>530606408
the only time i ever paid for a boost was in 2005 when i paid 1g for a lvl 40 hunter to clear deadmines for me and i remember what a chad he was. imaginine fucking paying money to systematically do that on every character for hours upon hours just so you can raid log on 8 characters just so you can try to get a "parse" or whatever the fuck these niggas all do with their 8 character in identical BiS gear

>>530606408
the true vanilla experience...soul...

>>530605626
Thanks for these, man
I definitely did those two prereq quests before I dropped the Silverpine quests.
High Executor Darthalia has a silver exclamation mark over her head, so there's some prereq missing here. I'll check around the flight paths in Silverpine for relevant quests. I can see High Warlord Cromush is supposed to have this

>>530606757
back in 2005 they gave out deadmines runs for free

SoD died so MoP can die two weeks later than usual.

>>530607104
If there is a silver ! Then you probably need a level or two

>>530606757
I rerolled on Grobb with two friends in the middle of TBC. It was a lot of fun, but part of the excitement was seeing how much we could mooch off free boosts. I think I got in over 30 SM runs for free. Like we'd find the one guy with two accounts leveling his alt and just slide into his group because his alt will level faster with more characters around his level than solo. Or we'd find the mage learning how to do the boost pulls and would do shit for free because he'd die once every 4 dungeons. After all the shit we pulled for free carries, I could never live with myself paying for dungeon boosts today.

>>530607104
>High Executor Darthalia has a silver exclamation mark over her head
usually that means you're underlevelled. you sure you're level 20 lol?

>>530607448
>>530607309
>you sure you're level 20 lol?
Forget me and my stupidity
I disappear now

(thanks for help guys)

>>530607624
Np, if you were smart you would be on anni instead

I've never done the pserf shit but Epoch legit sounds fun. Is the server lag going to be terrible from NA though? Or should I just resub for MoP Classic?

>unironically growing a bond with your character
He says as he begs for a fresh every 3 months, breaking that "bond" with your character because you got bored from the game

>>530607379
that sounds like a fun time. for me i just put on a tv show and lvl while chillin following a guide addon. i do this basically every release cycle of a fresh server. idk if MoP fresh is a thing but i will probably give it a shot if it is, sorta because i havent yet lvld thru the actual cata zones in 20 years

>>530607851
i have 5+ characters and i remember every leveling experience. do you remember your alt #26 you leveled thru some cheating 3rd worlder in a sweatshop

>boostiebondie unable to comprehend the basic condition of playing wow classic
lmao

Yo when is this reaching 5K?

>>530608602
buying bonds would be based as fuck if they locked its price to like 500g and then just banned everyone who is buying chink gold. you just know the mazed RMT addicts would dump their wallets and fund development for decades

>>530608168
>do you remember your alt #26 you leveled thru some cheating 3rd worlder in a sweatshop
anyway, enough about vanilla.

GDKP gives top performing players a reason to run older raids in classic.

>>530609132

there is no reason to run raids in classic

>his vanilla experience is buying mage boost 26 times
so this is the power of retoilets who question the basic premise of enjoying 'nilla

>>530609463
Boosting is garbage but the alternative is getting camped by a failed school shooter in Redridge or Hillsbrad because you're forced to play on a PvP server if you want to play with any halfway decent guild.

>>530609286
You know, it's crazy this is a hot take when in 2005 less than 10% of players actually raided. I never raided as a 12 year old nilla player; I didn't start taking raiding seriously until TBC. For me, endgame was running 5-man dungeons, roleplaying and dressing up in pirate outfits and taking over the Menethil Harbor boat as horde.

>>530609276
So why are the classic Andies so against it?

>>530609669
its not really a hot take; nobody would raid without the third party parse website
also same

>>530609642
>you're forced to play on a PvP server if you want to play with any halfway decent guild.
proof?

>>530609781
It was the culmination of a very small subset of vocal redditors and Blizzard looking for a scape goat.

Gdkp is dead and boosting/botting is next on the menu

>>530609781
Twitch streamers told them to think that way

>>530609781
what's wrong with that elf's vagina?

>>530609463
most people play vanilla that way, Blizzard had to invent hardcore to force people not to

>>530609781
i bet NE feet smell like freshly cut grass and dirt

>>530609669
the mentality of why people play games has changed, zoomers don't play games just to play and have fun, they play to check objectives off a list and don't feel complete unless they have checked off every objective.

>>530610281
And Sabretooth jism.

Whats the fastest way to get gold for Cata Classic right now? Other than buying it. Just got back and am looking to get some money for MoP

What should I use my 85 boost on? I have a mage hunter and druid already

>>530610242
>most people
Most people just level and quit before 60 having had a satisfying gaming experience.

The golden nolife 5% who want to have alts of every class buy boosts since it is not humanly possible to level all of that the proper way.

>>530610442
run tbc raids each boss drops 250g

>>530610091
twitch streamers supported gdkp though

>GDKP's are de -ACK

>>530610623
This. Also no mind control bosses that reset the encounter like some vanilla raids.

i'm being serious here why is there so much more drama in classic guilds/raiding compared to raiding on retail

DK or Warlock for MoP?

>>530611070
the game was always known for failed washed manchild who wants to be the next big shot wow celebrity and they think they'll accomplish that by getting the bug mount and 99 parses, so each time something doesn't go their way, they'll throw a tantrum over it
in retail you just have normal people

>>530610242
i dont think its most. maybe like a non neglible part, but at most maybe 5% of the playerbase. theres not much visibility for their qualms on any large social media platform, and its incredibly popular to dunk on them, but the boost spam is still very noticable but i see it more as a very, very loud minority since it only takes like 5 people spamming boost adverts to completely saturate the channel and make up the illusion that everyone is playing the game like that.

>>530611070
people who are serious about raiding in a 20 year old videogames are not well adjusted persons

>>530610623
>>530611046
Do I still need attunements for those? I assume they're also doable solo with questing greens and stuff?

are there cuckolds who actually redo all their action bars every time they disappear? If i go into a BG and my action bars are all cleared I will literally AFK until I can respec to reset them. Not my problem

>>530612335
No. Only annoying thing is to get to sunwell. Kaelthas is also pretty annoying with the stun spam and diminishing returns existing at the time.

>>530612769
Can you walk into raids by yourself or do you need to be in a raid group? I was able to zone into Magtheridon's Lair solo but Tempest Keep isn't letting me

>>530612505
No because we know how to read retard forums. It happens only on secondary spec and is fixed by switching to main talents and back.

>>530613228
Make group in group finder and turn it private. Then just convert to raid.

>>530613370
Thanks much appreciated

If you play wow in 2025, you're a cuckold

>Mopjeet came back and the thread is full of nonsense spam again
Curious.

>>530612505
I'm just not doing any dungeons until they fix this stupid shit. just levelling profs in the meantime cause they at least fixed the bugged profession tabs

>ai sloppa woke up
good morning saar

>>530610623
are these doable on any class without having raid gear? I need to make some gold after they nerfed quest gold so hard but I skipped cata so don't have any gear. also only have mage and shaman at max level which are pretty squishy

>>530614782

>>530614873
It's amazing it took them a whole fucking week to fix the herbing.

>>530615193
No clue but my 410 prot Pala just facerolls all tbc bosses

>>530615365
classic wow will always be their second class citizens. They have all their resources for retail

>>530615365
Devs are playing on anni, cba

Jaina PVMP

>>530615457
post the cutscene

>>530615693
>AI slop
yuck

2k resilience gets u like 4% dmg reduction and 8% extra dmg in pvp. Is this dogshit even fucking worth using in bgs?????

post more undead girls

>>530615871
aijeet will be at it for 5 more hours
brace

>>530615693
Hnnngh~

>>530614782
>trannime
>>530615693
>slopified trannime

>>530615915
Wrong thread troon

>crack open another beer for my gaming session
>servers shut down
Bros…

>>530617205
>eu troon

>>530249878
>meanwhile this one is still up
oh J's

>>530611265
PLEASE

RESPOND

>>530618060
Why not both?

!!!