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>Previous: >>530227579

>Thread Question: What makes an evil path in a crpg good?

>>530345764 (OP)
>Thread Question: What makes an evil path in a crpg good?
Not existing, so time, effort and resources aren't wasted on a meme nobody will play

>>530345764 (OP)
>>Thread Question: What makes an evil path in a crpg good?
Memes

abelard, throw it back homeboy style

>>530345764 (OP)
>What makes an evil path in a crpg good?
Same things that make a good path in a crpg good

>>530345764 (OP)
>>Thread Question: What makes an evil path in a crpg good?
It being well written and not fucking retarded mostly, it's that simple
QUIRKCHUNGUS of D00M!!!! is bad

Is there a way to Toybox Solomorne's dialogue for the start of his Act 4 quest before I descend to Leethus or do I wait for the patch?

wtf why don't we get a pink horror buddy in-game? they put this guy in the anniversary video

>>530346498
There should be, check the flags
Triggering things that don't trigger is half the point of goybox

>>530346548
Fuck pink horrors. I want a lop-eared kleppa

>none of the iconoclast companions leave you if youre a heretic
>all of the dogmatic ones do though

so iconocucks are just heretics?

>me after using toybox to allow multiple romance in one playthrough

Why did they replace the mad player voice actor

>>530345764 (OP)
It's time to stop pretending we hate romances, and instead talk about what the best possible romances would be in CRPGs going forward from here. What would your guys ideal romance content be? Personally I want a childhood friends romance, Imoen was close but she's your sister as well, and her romance mod is actually quite badly written.

>>530346674
I'll take my pink horror and shove it up your kleppa

I'm sorry can someone tell me what was kibbles iconoclast path supposed to be? She ended up heretical and I'm puzzled as to why
She has always seen me be merciful

>>530346796
Did they? Is it finally usable and not dogshit?

>>530345764 (OP)
The face Abelard makes whenever I decide to get my hands dirty instead of depending on the retards around me. The old man is so close to getting benched and replaced with law dog man.

>>530346908
She took Nemo's genestealer dick because she was too merciful to say no, now she's compromised.

>>530346863
who's pretending you incel freak

>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. “I... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!”

>Arueshalae’s fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. “I love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?”

>The girl flinches, but doesn’t pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. “I believe you. You must be real — I don’t want to imagine a world where you’re not.”

>As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. “Together, no hardship will scare us. We’ll get through it! We definitely will!”

>The heat radiating from Arueshalae’s body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours...

>Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away.

I bless this thread with my hands.

>>530347058
You need help.

>>530346592
Kinda tricky to find out which one it is. I will take a break for now

>>530346908
>iconoclast path
>She ended up heretical
so the same thing?

>>530346764
Unironically yes, but not all dogmatics leave. solmorne, kebab and cassia stay for example

>>530347154
oh yeah?? well I do THIS with MY hands

>>530346863
I don't hate romances, but I expect more from my CRPGs. Playing CRPGs shouldn't be like reading romance novels back to back.
They need to be done well, and they need to be one of many types of bonding arcs.

>>530347230
>>530347058
Can I get a non meme answer from someone who knows how her different flags work?

the rt sounds like me

>>530346863
>what the best possible romances would be in CRPGs going forward from here.
Don't care realy. I already got my perfect romance

>>530347343
Everything is catalogued here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JenL74LpnxLfTdwfIuLy5P_k0Jqi8YlI2SSt4p_oIPE/edit?tab=t.0

>>530346863
Romance is fine but I play crpgs for the build autism

>>530347343
She has three flags by default plus two more for her romance, if you were playing with the dialog results cheat on you shouldn't have been retarded enough to fail. If you weren't, then suck it up as failed parenting.

>>530347154

>>530347306

>>530346863
Romances are shit and should never be written by nerds and gooners that never experienced the real thing.

>>530347538
I didn't play with the dialogue options, I am reading and I am BAFFLED I didn't get the humility ending

I must have said something to her in act 2 and made her evil on accident, I don't know.

>>530347604
Bro, what's happneing with your jaw? That's one mighty underbite. Ask Jimmy to fix it with his powers, damn

How badly did I fuck up telling Kibellah that she's brainwashed? I couldn't resist it, it was such an appropriate remark in the moment.

>>530347034
It fits with his character being very rigid and set on procedure but disappointing grandpa makes me a bit sad.

>>530347657
I think it goes a bit deeper than that. Introvert virgins who don't know how people work shouldn't write romance. Extrovert non-virgins who know how women work shouldn't write romance.
The sweet spot is extrovert virgins who know how people work but not how women work.

>>530346863
Mother and son romance

>>530347604
That's one big table, Mr Inquisitor. What do you do on it?

I pray before every mission.

>>530348014
What is with Inquisitor's and having sex on tables?

>>530347872
Who cares. She is brainwashed. Someone needs to lay it down like it is
>>530348098
I hope you also take a bath after every mission

Honestly, I would love to have a one night stand with Vigdis. Hell, I can third for Idira. I would even have my RT sex change just to do it

>>530347724
>>530347538
I reloaded a save right before the end of the quest, activated toybox and it's marked as "kibbelah humility greater than distortion = true", so my conclusion is that this must be a bug of some sort.

>>530348165
They are busy people, no time to go to the bedroom. Just unzip, pop it in, and go back to investigating heretics

>>530348178
What's it like bathing with Jimmy? I won't do it out of respect for the guy.

>>530348186
>RT sex change
Congrats on damning the dynasty by removing any hope for producing an heir
Better hope Theodora was a promiscuous enough slut to still have other descendants alive by the time you retire

>>530346863
>Just like old times! Except for the... incest and all...

>>530348741
Just take some distant cousing and put him on the ship like theodora did

>>530348640
You don't bathe WITH him, unfortunately. You wear your best granny panties and thrash sexually in the tub like a whale on the beach, but he misses all the signs and tells you a morose story about how his family almost executed him

>>530347321
>They need to be done well
Specify how they could be improved, then. It's difficult to create meaningful romance in choice & consequence games since you have to account for too many character variables when it comes to the protagonist.

>>530348186
>Hell, I can third for Idira.
I don't speak San Francisco, what does this mean?

>>530345764 (OP)
>thread question
having an equal amount of content as the good path/not just losing content because evil
some unique story and mechanical thing as a reward, despite most people railing against it i'm not really opposed to comically evil options

>>530348098
>Pray before every mission
>take bath after every mission
>have Meive pour me a glass of wine
>play regicide
>have sex
>hit the warp jump
Feels good being a Rogue Trader

>>530349072
Honestly it's baffling that Imoen and CHARNAME weren't lovers to begin with, they were the only two people in Candlekeep in their age range, and went through all of puberty together with no other options, plus they're both attractive and charismatic people to begin with, which would make both of them appealing to one another as well.

dlc is kino. I liked it a lot.

I would say it's slightly below Void Shadows but still pretty good.

I love the extra effort put into the new class. There are world interactions with the pets and everyone has new voice lines for it. I wish the feudal planet had more going on though, like perhaps it became a colony, and also the body hopping should have had more to it, like it happened to the entire retinue and you had to figure out who was who or something funny like that. Also I want to return and see how Maive is doing as governor, like she's more confident.

I'm super excited for season 2 and also dark heresy next year.

>>530349170
You're asking for a clear roadmap on how to generally correctly do romance arcs in crpgs? I'm not able to do that or even try. I could point out things that I think are failures, but I doubt they'd surprise you, they've been brought up plenty of times before.
>since you have to account for too many character variables when it comes to the protagonist
Honestly? Tough shit. It's not mining. Tough shit, do your job, devs. I know it's not a fair direct comparison but in certain ways it is. I don't buy the "too much work" excuse, here or in the "we don't write niche outcomes because most players won't see it" case. Do the job, or hire someone who can.

>>530349547
>Also I want to return and see how Maive is doing as governor
I took her with me to be my maid
in the ending the planet died out due to some crystal aids. I chose to report it to the administratum

>>530349134
So far, the only characters who've actually gotten into the bath with me have been the bath enforcers and Pasqal

>>530349618
I have to say it's fairly pathetic that romance content in CRPGs has still to evolve beyond what it was at its inception in BG2. In fact, if anything, the BG2 romances are still among the top tier romances in CRPGs and efforts in games decades later are worse.

>>530345764 (OP)
>What makes an evil path in a crpg good?
Just being able to join another faction, that's pretty much all it takes to make me happy. I recently finished my KotOR 1 dark side playthrough after putting it off for so long. It was funny to be a dick here and there but in the end it didn't feel worth it because I was just making things worse for a faction I was supposed to be working for instead of joining the other side.
Joining the sith proper happens in the last five minutes of the game, it's way overdue and things play out basically the same anyway. I would have much preferred a proper sith defection arc.

>>530349547
I think LI had better bosses. In SV only the crypt fight was fun. The Sire battle was cringe due to artifical limitations the put on it.

>>530350062
Yeah, none of them actually take a swim with you, not even Jae. And there's no difference in whether you romance them or not. Bit of a let down really
>>530350119
>romance content in CRPGs has still to evolve beyond what it was at its inception in BG2
I will reiterate what has already been sid multiple times: they had a good thing going with DA2 and they BLEW it!

Has any CRPG other than Tyranny did what Tyranny did with the whole fear/respect thing with your companions?

>>530350526
I don't remember that system at all

I'm using Daeran with a summoning/dispel build this playthrough and it does feel incredible to be the one making enemies deal with swarm bullshit for once

>>530350526
Tyranny's system was just a poor copy of DA2s Friendship/Rivalry system.

>>530321735
>Such as?
John Grammaticus
Ol Persson

>the heretical/iconoclast option is saving pirate princess from Navy rapist
what did Owlcat mean by this?

Rogue trader's alignment system should have been a compass style with puritain/radical on one axis and dogmatic/iconoclast on the other.

>>530346674
I'm sorry Lord Captain, lop-eared kleppas have been extinct for more than a century.
There are no lop-eared kleppas to be had

>>530352059
>[dogmatic] Then procure regular earred kleppas and lop their ears off.

>>530347343
>>530346908
She stays in charge of the cult and makes it a bit nicer
I did it with the romance, and we ended up getting married

>>530352040
rogue trader shouldnt have had an alignment system or heretic path entirely and just had you pick individual choices depending on the situation and what you felt like

>>530352040
Putting numbers on morality is always stupid and I hate that RPGs keep doing it.
>Share a piece of bread with an orphan child +5 good points
>Obliterate an entire village for personal gain +10 evil points
You can't quantify this shit and all this really leads to is it being gamified with people trying to weigh what they can get away with.

>>530352246
I just reloaded and did some toybox investigation

You guys want to know what caused that?
Toybox reported I had a lot of points into humility, but if you tell her to spare her family instead of letting her make the choice, she will INSTANTLY be locked into distortion ending, because even if toybox reports only one distortion point gained, it will be reported as higher value EVEN if you take another humility option later one

I assume this was a bug, as even toybox is inconsistent on the matter, since it reports only one distortion point gained, yet gaining another humility point later on will not change anything

>>530352624
That's pretty stupid
The beach ending with her family is not easy to spot, I believe it's the one where you tell her to kys herself

Who are my companions for an evil playthrough im wotr? Cam frontline tank/MC frontline/Wendu backline/Nenio backline
Who should I use for the last 2?

>>530346863
>What would your guys ideal romance content be?
Weird shit. I'm sick of every fantasy/sci-fi RPG romance being Humans, elves or something that is just a Human or an elf with a weird skin color. That's why I like the fact that Dark Heresy has the Kroot lady. Certainly a small step up from boring fucking Humans.
If the Kroot chick isn't actually a romance option or turns out to be like Yrliets then I'm not fucking buying the game.

>>530352715
Best ending*

>>530352927
Kroot lady will be Yrliet in reverse. She will be very physically attracted to you but you just can't reciprocate. You'll try to find her attractive but you won't be able to do it

>>530346908
>iconocuck pursued heresy and gave in to slaanesh unwittingly
a tale as old as time...

>>530352527
Sure it's gamey, but puritan/radical and dogmatic/iconoclast are scales that actually make sense in relation to the tenants of the imperium. They could even reframe is as pure reputation rather than alignment and base how others see you in that context.

>>530352840
Reggie, respec him to beast rider/hellknight and give him the lizard
Ember for heals and buffs, and also to bear witness to all the bad things you do. Go for her mindbreak ending.

>>530353260
>Go for her mindbreak ending.
Is this a real thing?

>Want to make an Operative Overseer with Servo Skulls
>Know it'll be worse in every way compared to Officer

AOE Analyze, Expose Weakness, and Death Sentence could be nice though. What kind of gun should I use? I'm thinking Plasma or a Heavy Flamer.

>>530353353
NTA but yes, but she suffers horrible stat penalties because of it so actually using her while going for it is a terrible idea.

>>530353143
Considering this is Owlcat we're talking about, I could seem them pulling some shit like that.

>>530353353
Yes and it's one of the meanest endings in any game. She goes to live as a mind addled washer woman at an orphanage.

>>530353374
You could play into the arbee'ees shield/shotgun and be tanky as well.

>>530353551
>mind addled
So just tuesday for emder?

>>530353782
Tried it and got bored because it turns out shields make Vanguards worse.

>>530353551
What a shame. She should have gone on to live as a seedbed for the Swarm.

>>530353374
I don't think death sentence works through the skulls. Or if it does it's missing the retransmission thing in the tooltip.

>>530352624
Definitely sounds like a bug
The code must be so fragile and poorly tested

>>530350119
She definitely looks like an irritating little sister who needs to be disciplined

>>530354181
Yeah, how the fuck does that work? Finally add something that could add a ton of flavor to the consistently most underwhelming "prestige class" in the game and oh. It actually makes it even worse.

>>530350119
The problem with crpg romances is that they are self mastabatoury because the player character doesn't actually have a personality and is a cardboard cut-out. you just have to pick the right dialogue options and say the right things and suddenly that character loves the PC because he/she is just so special and cool and uhh did they mention they love (you)??

>>530354718
>you just have to pick the right dialogue options and say the right things and suddenly that character loves the PC because he/she is just so special and cool and uhh did they mention they love (you)??
Sounds realistic enough.

>>530354635
Abelard Unfair Vanguard worked pretty well as 'Axe+Shield on theirturn, Rock Saw +Sworn Enemy+Reckelss Strike on his turn'

>>530354718
Do you know how computer games and books work? What the fuck do you expect, a personalized AI?

>>530355000
Sure, it is 0 Armor due to debuffs, but still

>>530354251
Yeah just tested and it's a no go. What a ripoff.

Why does Solomorne have so few voiced lines?

>>530354718
What is your alternative exactly? You pick the right dialogue options and they reject you anyway?

>>530354718
>Have to say the right things to get a person to like you
What's the issue here? If you want to put out that doing so is faking it, then that'd be on your character.

>>530355281
His interjections are not voiced, like most companions.
He has had a lot to say during standard banter.
He really does not like Kibs

>>530355000
I'm playing Abelard as an AM but I'm going to respec him to a Vanguard for RP reasons

>>530355024
AIs are more slavelike and all-approving than scripted RPG characters

>>530355000
It works fine because you are still tanky as shit and rocksaws are busted for damage but the shields themselves do nothing for you except prevent any of your talents that trigger off Parry from working and the auto bash on block talent having wonky math and not doing as much damage as an attack of opportunity.

>>530355000
I'm not that far yet on this run but I swear to God I'll respec him into a shield assassin out of spite. Axe does sound nice but what'd you think about a nice maul to go along with the malvian shroud and relished anguish?

>>530355679
Like you could make even Marazhai great with that set-ups

>"No I'm the alpha! No I'm the alpha!"
>*snarls and barks and growls*

I must don my wolf skin and my wolf pelt and hone my wolf blade so I am ready to join my wolf brothers in the wolf hunt in preparation of the wolftime, as foretold by the wolf runes wielded by the wolf priests, so like a wolf pack we wolf our way to the wolf's prey and devour them like wolves. Oh we also ride on wolves.

>>530355336
Unironically yes. The only memorable romance I've ever seen in a CRPG was when Viconia left me (in Brynnlaw no less) basically for simping too much.

>>530356124
So you picked the *wrong* options

>>530355879
Glad you approve but I'm rusty af. What else would you add on top? I've got some ideas but I've yet to see all the new items.

>>530356237
when people complain about "just picking all the right options" they mean "picking the ones that are obviously Player Is Choosing You", you cross-eyed horse

abelard, jork it around a little bit

>>530356124
Rusalka was pretty memorable for a young me.

>>530356068
https://www.youtube.com/embed/gAKyD5ztkjI

>>530353374
Overseer is pretty much unusable for operatives, really don't bother
Servo skulls are for officers, even their talents reflect it... who knows why they chose servoskulls of all things

>>530356246
I guess the best boots would be the improved lightweight ones? 2xStr Bonus to parry is good and rerroling dodge is nifty.
For shield set-ups, there are boots that on a successful block give you +2 ap next turn

wtf

>>530355281
I think it was the same with VS. They added them later, and I expect the same to happen with LI

>>530357404
What did you even do to her?

>>530357632
she saw ur WEENIS heh......

>>530346794
Why is Jae first ew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3zu-w4z6BA

>>530357632
It's a random warp event. Has nothing to do with you

>>530357818
workshop your thumbnail and try again, shan't grant a click

If it's a pretty planet, like a jungle or stuff like that, I take Cassia with me
If it's not, I don't, no need to endanger her life so she can see some half destroyed shuttle

>>530357818
>shilling your camwhore channel
How about kill yourself

>>530357272
Sounds neat. Any new hammers or such you've seen around I should keep an eye out for?

>>530357818
does she have an OF

>>530358012
I take Cassia to relatively civilized places with buildings, or places she might have heard of
For example, I took her to Footfall because she would have read about it and would enjoy visiting
She ended up getting set on fire, wading through shit, and getting knocked on her ass by a hooligan with a big hammer.

wow, I'm impressed. We've upgraded from human wave to armored wave. That's putting our noggins to use!

Non-mage classes feel so shit to play in DAO its not even fucking funny

>>530359303
Rogue is really fun though

>>530352624
Huh, I told her I don't kill on anyone's orders and neither should she (btw why aren't those dialogues marked by toybox with their respective flags?), she spared the family and I got her to be merciful in the end.

>>530358436
Only new hammer I remember is Called Emprero's will.
High penetration, and if they fail a -10 Toughness test, they get stunned. You can definitely debuff their toughness to do it consistently, but dunno.
This is a nifty two hander though

>>530360167
I haven't tested that option, but the option above that, about innocents, is what was causing my issue.

>>530353374
>>530357250
>They give operative overseer and it's a shit combo
Meanwhile I'm surprised they didn't just give that archtype master tact.

>>530360306
Mh. I'm sorry it fucked up your flags dude.

I really don't understand how Cassia has nothing to say to you as a heretic. Like, the reflection at least implies she doesn't give a fuck. I guess she just trusts you wholeheartedly on her independant path no matter how far you fall?

goddammit, that's too sweet

>>530357818
why is it always that potrait or this pic that women use, been noooticing

>>530360312
operative is a shit combo with anything to be desu
pasqal and idira get off easy thanks to mechanicus/psyker talents respectively

>>530360476
Frilly dress. Bitches love frilly dresses.
Also arguably one of the most conventionally attractive portraits for women, face-wise.

>>530360478
True. Tin mans plasma weapon talents are too good.

>>530360478
Bounty hunter is okay, especially with 2+ plus of them, since damage scale even when others hit prey.
But a Soldier BH would be better

>55%
Damn, Kibellah has like 120 weapon skill. Some of the checks on unfair mode are wack.

>>530360476
She cute. Pretty dress, pretty hair, pretty face. If I wanted something ugly I'd look in the mirror

>>530360639
I feel bad about abusing Pasqal solely for Missionary Oath. Especially since I started doing it kinda late-ish and actually enjoyed having a GS and actually using their abilities and stratagems for once. They got some powerful stuff.
Nothing that competes with cheating turns though, sadly.

I lead by example, NOT with my blade.

I was wondering what happens if you let Cassia go back to her people, looks like you get a replacement. Perfect for my Herekek run.

>>530360476
One of the few that look conventionally good, same with the Navy Male RT.

>>530360476
fattius tittius

>>530360742
Unfair mode checks were the hardest thing.
I had fucking Pasqal raising Tech and Logic always and even items to give +10 boost and still hit cases where he had 80% chance

>>530360838
Your kind has no right to exist.

>>530361038
thank god for toybox
i will not f5 f8 ever again for those

>>530360302
That's not a half bad blade either. Alright man, good talk. Shield you later.

>if you take along Marz and then let the daemonette eat him you can get a second Djin blade
Nice. This edgy cunt was good for something after all.

>>530360935
Best portrait in the game, If not for all the navi eyes I'd use it for a psyker

>>530361441
nani?
post it

>>530360979
She has medium tits tho

>>530361619
It's just the same one his sister drops.

>>530360478
>>530360668
my BH sniper does most of the legwork for removing armor from enemies on Unfair so not complaining
>>530360578
>>530360770
>>530360956
I legit don't see how that portrait is "attractive", but I'm also not a foid... I personally really love the fem psyker one and think that' looks a lot more attractive

>give operative a free analyze
>let them reapply a number of exploits after expose
>give them special synergy with knives

>>530361837
>I legit don't see how that portrait is "attractive", but I'm also not a foid... I personally really love the fem psyker one and think that' looks a lot more attractive
>
>
Mate

>>530361837
This might be news to you, but most women really really REALLY don't want to be bald. Not even in a fictional setting.

>>530361837
No woman would actively want to look like the femPsyker
The femNoble has the sort of appearance women don't mind self-inserting as. She looks normal and somehow girlbossy

>>530360476
>that portrait
>noble officer
>iconoclast/dogmatic but mostly icono
>pragmatic voice
>romance jimmy
>be a good surrogate mommy for nomos
this is, objectively, the optimal femtrader

For me it's the fem navy officer

>>530360364
It's no biggie, since I have confirmed it was a minor issue I just reloaded, I will have to redo all the quests I did yesterday but by skipping all the dialogue I already read it won't take long at all

>>530360476
Thats my portrait. I like a degenerate noble woman for [spoiler ]Marzipan [/spoiler]

>>530361837
Fempsyker is bald, and that's s deal breaker, but the face is ok. I use modified noble portrait anyway that removes thay vulgar mole

>>530361837
She's bald

>>530362410
>that removes thay vulgar mole
it's called a beauty mark, chud

>>530362326
Out of interest, since I won't ever go for that particular path, what does the Distortion ending look like? Does the cult go full mask off and become genuinely (read: unsanctioned) deranged killers or something?

>>530361837
I want to be a pretty psyker, its not fair. I tried editing this but figuring out the hair has been tricky.

>>530361901
>>give them special synergy with knives
That would be cool because at the moment knives are a big meme in the game (yeah they have 50 dodge reduction but so what)

>>530362113
>mostly icono
No, mostly dogmatic. There are not enough good iconokek options in the game to warrant a 3rd level. Before LI I managed to keep dogmachudism under control too, but unfortunately the dlc pushed me into 3rd lvl territory

>>530362113
>>530362643
extremely trans

>>530362643
It's pathetically easy to hit high icon even while ignoring all the retarded ones, what are you on about.

>>530362506
Yeah they become proud of themselves and enjoy their position both in terms of power (killing whoever they want) and luxury
In the cult buildings you can see sofas, banquet tables, and kibellah sits on a throne
On the bridge there are "exhalted spinners" which are finely dressed and enjoying the life of an officer.

>>530362113
>>be a good surrogate mommy for nomos
No thanks. Into the trash this shit goes

>>530361837
you're weird

WHen are they adding a new psyker school

>>530362538
Hair is always the biggest pain in the ass to edit right. What hairdo did you have in mind?

>>530362818
Huh, guess that fits perfectly for a Glorious or Heretic leaning RT.

>>530362113
>that portrait
>noble officer into overseer with bird
>iconoclast/dogmatic but mostly dogmatic
>pragmatic voice
>romance jimmy
>destroy shitmos
>total xenos death
>support Calcazar
Now we're talking

>>530362818
Kibellah is so exploitable and easy to influence

>>530362125
Shes cute but navy gameplay is boring

>>530362979
Comes with being abandoned as a kid and raised in a cult.

>>530362803
>It's pathetically easy to hit high icon
Guess I'm not braindead
>>530362892
Hopefully not before they fix other backgrounds. There's a lihgtning psyker mod on nexus if you want

>>530362965
not only extremely trans but also extremely NPC normalfag non-thinker too

>>530362951
I wanted to use the blonde priest portrait's hair but shorter on her.

>>530363184
>lihgtning psyker
That should've been part of biomancy from the start

>>530363184
>Guess I'm not braindead
I mean you're the one struggling with hitting high levels of Icon. That speaks volumes as to your lack of IQ.

>>530362892
You know, I could do with a nice Telekinetic. Hopefully DH will have them. Wanna push people around and put up telekine domes.

>>530363342
There is nothing high IQ about hitting [iconoclast] option in dialogue. I understand why you don't get it though, iconodummy. Don't worry about it, or you're gonna get a headache

>>530361952
>>530361967
>>530362017
>>530362113
>>530362346
>>530362410
>>530362413
as I've said, not a foid but she's straight up generic white women, there's nothing cool,unique or even sexy about it and I legit don't understand why you would wanna RP or use the most generic shit in 40K rpg game. In BG3 women at least do some weird rainbow haired Tiefling with heterochromia when making their MC. What about this pic instead, its basically the same women but at least she has some style and uniqueness to her

>>530363258
This one?

>>530361837
I'M GONNA SAY IT
I LOVE HOT BALD WOMEN

>>530362643
>>530363184
>>530363515
Most of the iconoclast options are perfectly reasonable, there are some that are of course fucking retarded but it's not the majority

>>530363583
would be better if full bald, sideshave is vomit

>>530363698
Dogmatards and dogma'sisters' just like trying to start 'alignment' shitflinging for attention

>>530363515
>>There are not enough good iconokek options in the game to warrant a 3rd level
This is what you wrote. It is blatantly false since you can hit high Icon while skirting around all the retard options. And now you're seething because you got called out for being a moron (and/or liar).
Now go ahead and seethe some more.

>>530363562
>In BG3 women at least do some weird rainbow haired Tiefling with heterochromia when making their MC.
Women don't. Trannies do

>>530363583
Yeah. I love her face too.

>>530363562
>but she's straight up generic white women
Yes good job you figured out why women pick her as portrait.

>>530363864
Trans women are women

How do I make heinrix good

>>530363562
>What about this pic instead
>Pug face
>smoker

>>530363864
>Trannies do
if this was the case it would mean that /crpgg/ and /bgg/ are overrun by trannies

>>530363562
>hag portrait
lol
>most generic shit in 40K rpg game
Women like to be pretty, its not hard. Also a beautiful noblewoman does seem unique since everyone else is a ugly or a big muscle man with a square jawline.

>>530363876
Alright xister, I'll see if I can cut up something from those two for you tomorrow.

>>530363562
Women like looking pretty
They just also happen to like makeup and looking quirky and different and unique and shit which is why you see the tiefling deal
None of those are bald creatures, they're conventionally pretty but oddly colored

>>530363562
She looks like she stole Abelard's breastplate and Noble trader's jacket

>>530364154
T-thanks anon

>>530364091
>How do I make a psyker good
By not being a retard.
Heck, just warrior=>assassin with a few abilities to get warp speed would be more than enough, and that is subpar cause psyker items are stupid

>>530363562
She looks middle aged.
There's also pic related, but she has "pick me" face a bit if you know what I mean, like she's too eager to please. I don't think women would choose her much.

>>530363583
>>530363779
I've seen an edit of this without the side shave but normal hair on /v/. Didn't save it though
>>530364113
You've cracked the case!

>>530363562
Here's another woman by a woman

>>530363562
She looks like Lord Captain Janeway

>>530364407
She looks like some pirate wench, not a rogue trader. Bad fit

>>530363562
And here's a woman by a man (weird chick with a sideshave)
You'd pick those ugly 40k portraits, women wouldn't really

Will Underrail Infusion live up to the hype?

>>530364679
Seems to be women make self inserts, men make characters to roleplay.

>>530364091
What's the point of a post like this

>>530364407
I like her. I used her for my Jimmy run. I edited her though. I edited the eye implant and soften her face a bit.

https://files.catbox.moe/9p3bi0.png

>>530361837
>Single shot Bounty Hunter
Absolute scrub mode, my most overpowered run even moreso than rocksaw psyker was Bolter Bounty Hunter. Cull the Bold applies to every shot and every shot that crits gets to resolve all the crit talents, specifically bolter and not heavy because I used the act 4 backpack to scale rate of fire off BS.

>>530358012
I take Cassia everywhere because she's fucking busted
Also a total cutie

>>530364790
Women make normal female characters, men make freak whores they want to fuck

>>530364790
>men make characters to roleplay.

>>530364773
It's hard to tell, it plays so differently, the combat and balance could be ass beyond imagining

>>530364790
No you play those women you make because you want to BE them
And some what he said >>530364908

>>530364790
Men self-insert what is this bs. Somebody post the Bg3's most popular Tav. It was a generic human white guy.

>>530364858
Nice edit, you removed the eye implant very well

>faithful cutie with her Munistorum issued meltagun portrait
>rank 5 dogmatic
>a small amount of iconoclast here and there when being nice to my loyal subjects does not contradict creed or the lex
>makes the ground quake and Word Bearers stumble through displays of her faith
>harden Jimmy
>harden Pasqal
>harden Kibellah
>harden Solomorne
>destroy the abominable intelligence
>execute Calcazar for heresy
Way too based

>>530364091
Pick all the good Biomancy passives, all the usual psyker passives and if you're not using it yourself, the Eyes of Joyeuse. Ignore warrior abilities and get Biomancy abilities instead. Then either Overseer for maximum buffslut and some ranged/aoe shenanigans with staff and raven, or Executioner for the usual Executioner bullshit. Though if you got Kibbles Heinrix just exists to buff her up and provide a second Carnival (assuming you're abusing the Inevitable goggles and clearing the map in one use)

>>530365018
Men don't self insert they idealize. We want to play as Conan the barbarian or some other uberchad because we desire to be an uberchad not because we think we already are one.

>>530365117
>>harden Pasqal
What do you mean? Make him loyal and renounce Amarnat heresy?

>>530365117
>destroy the abominable intelligence
Joke's on you, it wasn't an AI at all, it had nothing to do with computers
Bet you feel silly now

>>530365120
*assuming you AREN'T using the goggles is what that should have read

>>530365120
Heinrix with warp speed, starmist, Eyes of Joyes and himself on fire does Kibs job better.

>>530365151
That's just self inserting because I'm chad on the inside

>>530365251
Not really. It was a repulsive xenos which is just as bad, so no difference

>>530365151
>Conan
Are you the boomer who keeps bringing up Conan.
Men make a white guy with short brown hair that's literally them. Women make what they perceive as beautiful even if its a mod beast.

>>530364790
Wew you made the trannies mad

>>530364790
The cold hard reality is that when men make female characters, they design them like they're jerk-off material.
Just like women design men to shlick to them.

>>530365421
No I don't, I make myself a cool vampire/demon with cool inhuman parts

>>530364975
I hope Styg figures it out, hard to do anything new with a typical turn-based system at this point

>>530365073
Thanks

>magnae accessio
>Abelard - +1 Efficiency +1 Weapons +1 Provisions +1 Chemicals
>Argenta - +1 Complacency
>Cassia - FIFTY(50) FUCKING NAVIGATOR INSIGHT
>Heinrix - +2 Security
>Jae - FIFTEEN THOUSAND(15000) KASBALLICA REP
>Kibellah - +2 Security, -1 Complacency
>Pasqual - +1 People +2 Weapons +2 Provisions +2 Chemicals +1 Plasteel +1 Promethium
>Solomorne - +1 Complacency +1 Security
>Yrliet - +30 Xenotech
>Idira - +2 Complacency -1 Security
bro, these CANNOT be the real companion rewards. jae and cassia give a reward that is orders of magnitude more valuable than the rest fucking combined.

>>530365649
Navigator insight is a meme resource frankly
Just blast through a nightmare route and take out the demons personally
Jae's reward sounds helpful

>>530365332
By the time starmist is available, any Executioner clears the entire battlefield with just their Carnival. Before that Kibellah beats Heinrix thanks to having much, much better mobility.

>>530365649
navigator insight doesn't matter, you make lines between your colonies and that's it (abelard's niece or whatever can remove every red line from the map even)
rep is cool though

>>530365649
Navigator insight is useless and farmable
Unless you have NO dlc installed, Jae's reward is completely useless unless you want to rush something specific before Commoragh from that vendor.
Pasqal's is a downgrade from what it used to be

>>530365649
>Yrliet - +30 Xenotech
This looks the most useful actually

>>530365776
>Just blast through a nightmare route and take out the demons personally
Becomes a drag by the end of act 2. I was glad I picked Cassia in my last run because whenever I needed to go somewhere I just created a yellow or green route and travelled without a hitch

>>530365649
Jae used to be the go to, but with the DLC I somehow managed to max out every single faction early into Act 4 so her Kasbah rep doesn't matter really.

>>530365649
I chose a symbol of faith and a symbol of the lex as a statement of what my dynasty will be like.

Choosing based on the material rewards they give you is...forgive my french, but not based.

>>530366030
Not really, you get more extractiums with colony projects and contracts and you will have enough xenotech for everything
Universal statlines with no downsides are better to get colony projects rolling faster

>>530366087
You're a rogue trader. If you're not choosing based on rewards you're not doing it right.

>>530366087
Based take
>>530365649
Cringe take

>>530365649
Abelard represents an minor Noble family so you get a pile of swag
Cassia is the head of an entire Navigator House
Jae is a Kasballican Princess which puts her in the top ten of criminals in the entire subsector when you recruit her (until the other Kasballicans above her decided to kill her and steal her shit)
Pasqal gets you gifts from Explorators
Yrliet gets you gifts from pirates that like you having a pet Eldar
Rest are literally who's.

>>530365776
>>530365869
>>530365892
>navigator's insight
yeah, its ultimately unnecessary, but having the option to skip a bunch of chaff encounters and other bullshit is a significant increase in qol. much more so than negligible planetary buffs and pitiable resource rewards

>>530365649
Pasqal just always seemed the right choice cause who the fuck wouldn't want to cozy up to the only people with any decent fucking TECH in the Imperium (even if half of it literally gives you cancer).

>>530365649
Who cares?
You think getting +2 gleeblegork instead of +1 is going to change your game?

>>530366415
Yes, when those +2 gleeblegork is hard to come by and block my access to Gabamork project

>>530365649
Then take Cassia and Jae erm

>>530366359
By the time you reach the ascension, you can have green routes for your colonies and a yellow map to everything. If you got the bonus immediately after footfal somehow, I'd agree

Since we're kinda on the topic, I know efficiency makes all your shit get built faster, and complacency makes line go up, but what the fuck does security actually provide in terms of tangible gameplay benefits? I can't remember a single situation in which a colony had to fend for itself because I took too long to get to a planetary event.

>>530366563
Nothing is hard to come by in this visual novel unless you squander every opportunity on purpose.

>>530366617
I don't know man on release you'd get events that gave you -99 to every stat but I leveled security always and never got that so MAYBE??

>>530365649
I just chose based on who would enjoy it most
So I generally choose Cassia and Sister Argenta
Abelard would be a good choice, but he'd feel out of place

>>530366597
>By the time you reach the ascension, you can have green routes for your colonies and a yellow map to everything
Why are you lying? Unless you spend hours farming navi points it's impossible to have what you claim

Lmao, Dance of masks arena is still broken.
The final matushka demon just stays to hang around for the next round because the game sees you killing it's host = no enemies left alive.

>>530366781
nta but its only 6 insight to green a route. from footfall to all vv colonies, it would only be about 20, which is very easy to get very early in act 2

Green routes are boring because they mean you never get to see any warp events like Yrliet hallucinating or Argenta crying for her mom or Idira finding her missing sock

Can't choose between Kibbles and Fish. Guess it's time for Toybox.

>>530366781
>visit every planet you can vist and chart every world
>hit a couple navi point events during that
>Do not make a route green if it's not a colony back to footfall
I connect the colonies together later on when I got free navi points from Cassia's quest.
Also gutted voidship Navigator gives some free ones.

>>530366782
I have never done the arena. Not only is it fucking insulting to get whisked away from getting to spend some proper quality time with people you actually care about, there is also no point in any of the rewards, however good they might be, since by the time you get to the DLC the game is basically over already and you're as overpowered as can be anyway, who gives a shit about another 3 items.
Can you atleast kill the arena clowns at the end or did Owlcat cuck you out of that too?

>>530366916
That's not what he claimed though. He said "green routes to all colonies (from where? From footall? Between colonies?) and everything else yellow". No, you absolutely can't have that because that would take 50-60 points if not more. He's a lying nigger

>>530367052
coward, you don't deserve either

>>530367052
Kibbles is more interesting in the end I believe and has a more satisfying ending.

>Wake up
>Take a nice bath
>get Maive to make me a double recaf
>look out of the window
> Ponder the Halo device sitting in my safe with glossy eyes for 2 hours and a half
Another thrilling morning, ready for a thrilling day in the life of the trader of rogues

>>530367052
Having done both, I slightly prefer Kibbles. Cassia is very sweet, but her family is just complete dogshit from start to finish.

Grinded as much rep as I could before I take a field trip to Cumrag and go tmy hands on that Carnage Axe that Ryzza sells Slapped it on my Arch Militant RT and tested it on some random warp encounters and he just shits out crit damage like crazy. Feels busted but I'm sure the later acts have even more busted weapons.

>>530367256
It would be cool if you could eat Maive (in the ending slide maybe) if you put on Halo device

eat chaos

>>530367470
I wish I could eat Maive if you know what I mean

>>530367256
Halo device turns you into a soijak? It's got new icon btw

>>530367417
Honestly it'd be easier to list things in RT that AREN'T in some way busted.

>>530367640
Operative overseer

>>530367574
Just headcanon that you do. Ntohing's stopping you realistically from ordering her to be your bed warmer and she would probaly even do it gladly since she seems to worship you

>>530367052
Kibbles>Cassia>Jae>Yrilet. That said if you're using Toybox you might as well do all of them. I know Jae gets a lot of hate but she's not that bad. I don't blame you if you skip Yrilet though.

Do you ever revisit the medieval planet from Lex? Or do you have to take Maive along if you ever want to interact with her ever again?

>>530367052
Cassia
The bit where kibbles can't perform because she's that into (You) was a tad much

>>530367813
>Do you ever revisit the medieval planet from Lex?
No

>>530367895
Well that sucks.

>>530362494
Yeah sorry, i'll fix it
>that removes that vulgar beauty mark

>>530367834
>someone being distracted by thoughts of a loved one is a tad much
Weak.

>>530367813
Have to take her along at the end. All she does is hang out in your room, say how amazing you are and brews you coffee which gives you a temp buff. Wish we could've done more with her but oh well.

They fix the Act 4 Lex quest bug yet? Where you're supposed to talk to Solo before hitting the planet but it doesn't actually let you talk about anything?

>>530368113
Ok kibbles

>>530367953
>>530367813
Anon don't tell me you left her in that shithole

>>530368131
Does she hang out on the bridge if you tell her to go bother Janris.

>>530367834
It makes sense when you consider her social circle before you and the party was a geriartic, prophetic dusty assed assassin and a bunch of psychotic cultists.

>>530367119
Final boss is shadow dude's janny, who you have been talking to all the time. He turns into basic bitch linnorn that resurrects once and kills whoever delivered killing blow.
Shadow people boss just claims that you are now big boy and gives you two achievements for your pain.
To be honest, the real end boss was the alignment squad with Aion dude dropping black holes on you

>>530367610
Duh, why do you think people use them? They want to be a gemmy

>>530368434
Figured taking a medieval peasant with no skills onto a ship that regularly gets invaded by daemons and worse might not be the best idea.

>>530353450
>>530353551
Thats kind of neat actually
Ill try going for that and maybe just use Daeran instead of her?
He still fits into an evil playthrough, right?

idira

This general is ass, how much longer until solasta 2?

>>530369130
Yeah. And if you should happen to be a charisma based class, Daeran fits REAL good come his final quest.

>>530369226
why would that change anything? nobody here ever talked about solasta 1 lmao

well damn

>>530369226
Couldn't you at least use a game with a good system behind it to shitpost with instead of 5e slop.

This general is ass, how much longer until skald 2?

How do you build Pasqal? He's so slow it's like he never gets a turn.

>>530369513
Hes shit no matter what you do so just follow your whims

This general is ass, how much longer until Dark Heresy?

>>530369513
Bounty hunter plasma user.

How much longer until Osiris Reborn?

>>530369787
I want to be a glowie so bad bros
I want to hit some paesant with the "You're sheltering enemies of the state, are you not?" stare.

This general is ass, how much longer until archquest?

How much longer until solasta 3 ?

>>530369908
Become one in Rogue Trader endings. That's the best I've got rn

This general is ass, how much longer until Archaelund?

>>530369908
>gets hit with that "what's an inquisitor?" stare

>>530369513
Grand Strat Pasqal is breddy gud. He's a very good buffer and debuffer and still has decent damage with his plasma guns. And he always goes first.
And then you can use him for Missionary Oath shenanigans if you so feel like.

This general is ass, how much longer until Necromancers Tale?

>>530370162
>when you outglow the glowies and your entire chapter organization is so fucking arcane even the best infiltrators just say fuck it and give up

>>530370184
>He's a very good buffer
What buffer? He's got no buffs

>she/shim doesn't even know what the abilities in the game do
Erry time bby

>Cam: Legendary Proportions
>Reggie: Reduce Person
every single playthrough

>>530370326
Guess I imagined the giga armour stacks he shat out like it was nothing along with the benefits of Grand Strat zones and their associated stratagems.
You maybe wanna rethink your statement?

>>530369908
Can't wait to ask my boss Mr Zerbe "Uuuhhhhhhh, what's a rosette?".
It would be cool if you got a game over for asking too many retarded questions. Like in Blood and Wine. Zerbe sees that you're brain damaged and just servitorizes you

>>530370492
Joint analysis is flat damage added to the party's attacks too! Pasqal my boy...

>>530370492
Tactical Knowledge? It's ok I guess, I'd rather spend exploits on lowering enemy armour, and dodge is better than armour anyway, and the GS zones are a one and done.

This general is ass, how much longer until Banquet for Fools?

>>530370663
>and dodge is better than armour anyway
Man you say things so confidently wrong

>>530370492
Grand strategist isnt pasqal exclusive you freak of nature
Dont lump it in to try to pad out all of the buffs he doesnt have

Why does mentioning Solasta always cause the schizo to freak out?

>>530370823
Why not

>>530370719
I'd rather just not get hit, and dodge is easier to raise than armour. Still if you want to use Pasqal as buffer it's fine. It just doesn't really work for my playstyle I guess

>>530370823
Because it's a 5e game and this is a 3e general
You should honestly know better than to try and bring up any 5e shit in here

>>530370915
>and dodge is easier to raise than armour
That's literally wrong btw. It's the opposite. It's just easier to reach "100% dodge" on normal because of enemy stats.

>>530370663
The bigger value is getting a damage boost from all the chaff you'd one shot anyways.

>>530370950
Meds.

Ahem... five... eh.

>>530370509
>Who is the god emperor?

>>530345764 (OP)
>Taking Cassia to the inauguration is 50 navigatores insight now
Goddamn. I will never need to follow the actual travel lanes again.

5e is objectively better than 3e which is why more people use it.

>>530371423
>what is "the warp" ?

>>530371563
Its Abelard

>>530371068
Don't know about normal, since I'm playing hard, but in my experience 1 round is all it takes for jimmy to have 400% dodge and then kill everything. Same goes for bladedancer/executioner marazhai. He has slightly lower dodge but it's still above 300%.

This general is ass how much longer until the Warhammer fantasy crpg? I want to be a bretonnian.

My Servo Skull plans are dead, you can't extrapolate Expose Weakness so no aoe dodge/armour debuff into heavy flamer shenanery.

5e is kinda boring but I'm interested in seeing what they do with solasta 2.
The first game was super fun despite the terrible writing and ugly graphics.

>>530371137
Yeah, but the damage increase is for pasqal only, and how many attack is he gonna be doing per round? 2?

>added multiclassing
Ita gonna flop.

>>530364318
Thank >>530364449 since I found the edit he mentioned and fixed it up a little. The red version needs to cook more but I do like the idea, and hey, hair.

>>530371741
And it takes pasqal 1 round to make your entire party immune to damage. No officer sissybuffs involved either.

>>530371826
Does it have fun combat? I'm down if it has good and cool consumables, I like that. The grid combat with height in it looked cool but I never actually gave solasta a try.

>>530371563
>Don't mind him, Abelard. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke.

>>530371910
>>added multiclassing
Soul and pic very much related.

>>530371925
Looks good, but too cutesy I think. Eh, still good, would use. Can you give her braids to match that one hair?

>and you're a... "psyker", is it? what's that like?

>>530372015
>And it takes pasqal 1 round to make your entire party immune to damage.
I think you're exaggerating. I've played with tactical knowledge and it was ok. Not great, just serviceable. If a single round TK is all it takes to make your party immune to damage then you're playing on story mod, and in that case why even bother with buffing, just kill everything normally. Would be faster

>>530371910
how delusional do you have to be to think multiclassing is going to be a turn off for anyone?

>>530372460
>I think you're exaggerating.
Yeah because you're confidently wrong and haven't experimented with the game at all. I play on unfair by the way. Armor is much easier to raise (and it's raised for the whole party or in an AoE even) than dodge, as I said. Regular elite enemies can have 300% dodge reduction but even bosses seldom even reach 100% armor penetration.

>>530371925
Woah thats really good. What hair did you use?

>>530372489
This is cute whatever this is

>>530372759
it's Daeran watching Arue burn down some trees, and then some stickers showing how me and my dragon gf kill everything

>>530371423
>what's a planet

>now this "imperium" of "man" you mention so much about, where is it?

>people are fighting and dying all over the planet
>including the room right next to us, where a word bearer is performing sorcery
>they're having a spat over which of their little named wolf packs is cooler than the other
>it's not quick either, they're going back and forth about it for a dozen slides
There are a thousand space marine chapters and owlcat had to choose one of the absolute lamest ones. they could have even made their own

fuck I just remembered the next game is about the night lords who are super cringe too.

>>530373039
anon the setting has this in it, live a little!

>>530372015
The combat is fun, its like bg3 if it was made with a budget of 10 bucks.
>cool consumables
eh its pretty basic, standard dnd stuff like strength potions, healing etc. You can buy and craft poison to coat your weapons which is cool.
Gear in general is very vanilla dnd since thats the kind of vibe they were going for, at least in the base campaign. Stuff gets a bit more crazy in the high level expansion.

>>530373039
Considering how much of an absolute shitshow post (and pre) Maledictum Calixis is they should've given us a truly awful chapter like the Minotaurs.

>>530373306
Does it look and or sound like shit though
Cool animations and sound are necessary if a game has animations at all, bad animations and sound actively drag a game down (better to have none at all)

>>530372631
Creeping into frog territory

Do you people seriously sit and read this entire game?
I tried at first, but WOTR is written like they had a minimum word count and I just can’t. Now I’m evil because I just spam yes until it’s over.

>>530373725
nta but I thought this aspect was fine. Good soundtrack too.
People complain about the graphics but honestly to me it's on par with like, Oblivion or WotR photomode. Totally fine, and even in how it's crappy it has a weird charm to it, for me.
I never felt bad about the graphics or sound. Some things are janky though, but if you approach it more as like an actual tabletop experience with friends, rather than Critical Role tier BG3/WotR epicness, it's pretty fun.

I wasn't expecting anything plotwise more than "the bad guy's in the dungeon so let's go there" but a few times was surprised and thought it was neat.
The way they handle map loot is really nice, too. Also the way mercs (all characters are mercs btw) get a bit of personality.
Make sure to have someone with "Arcane" I think it is, or you won't be doing any crafting.
Another dumb thing: can't turn around once you've set out on the world map towards a destination.

Jae gives me Octavia vibes. Is she going to cuck me or pull any stupid shit like that?

>>530374348
How do you feel about orgies and embezzlement?

>>530373753
>oh my science y-you.. you are autistic!
Yeah man, epic comeback.
Here's yrliet in act 3 being immune to damage while wearing light armor btw.

>>530374314
Why are you using WOTR as an example when they have some of the worst animations of a mainstream game in the past 20 years

>>530373039
>>530373490
I for one welcome my edgy boys

>>530374149
Have you not read a book outside one that was assigned to you before dropping out of 8th grade?

My problem isn't word count, it's poor design. That's far too much horizontal eye movement. From how far back from the monitor my face is, that would be like reading a giant book, width-wise.
And if you think to yourself about how many words you've read today just on 4chan, you'll realize it's not the amount that hurts, it's the presentation.
I think the only CRPG that I feel has nailed text presentation is Disco Elysium.

>>530374314
I said animations though, a game can look good and feel like shit because the devs are retarded and make things look retarded and sound shit (melee in every shadowrun game except for hong kong)
I guess I might as well watch a video or something, games with crafting in them and where you do down to the ground stuff speak to me, like battle brothers (which is cool but also kinda boring because there's no goal and it can waste your time for no reason too)
Thanks anon

>>530374149
It's a CRPG, not a movie
That's a loredump for if you care about lore or about regill's character, you don't, so just skip it or don't ask questions in the first place

>>530374619
I'm saying I feel it's on par with those examples. Somewhere between BG2 and BG3, I guess.

>>530374314
The environments and enemy models are actually pretty nice for such a low budget game. The only real issue is the character models which are admittedly hideous. Apparently there was an issue with their character creator where things didn't work as intended and they didn't realize until it was too late?

I can't believe jimmy just slapped the halo device out of my hand like that

>>530375646
Dumb himbo doesn't know that they don't work on psykers anyway...

>>530375752
Or chaosfags

>>530375123
Maybe I have some kind of blindness to that kind of thing, because I thought they were just fine. I wouldn't have even marked it down as notable until I've seen many people repeat about how apparently mind-meltingly hideous they are. For me, no worse than Oblivion or something. I don't need BG3 tier cosmetics, it does nothing for my experience.

>>530374754
I’ve read and written books, but the writing is just so unnecessary and terrible. There’s a guy standing there with a 3D model that looks a certain way. I don’t need a paragraph of narration telling me what he looks like.
>>530374943
It’s lazy to write that much to convey simple YA-level character traits. That image could have communicated the exact same information, and not accidentally communicated “this character is a chatterbox”, which he shouldn’t be but is written as, with:
>"I've never wondered at the fate of the former, and never had interest in the latter. Never place so-called 'friendship' or ‘camaraderie’ above respect, Commander. I deeply respected my mentor, who trained me into the Hellknights. I respected her so much that I killed her with my own hands.”

Does anyone know what the Flamer the confessor drops in Void Shadows is called?

>>530345764 (OP)
>What makes an evil path in a crpg good?
when it makes you feel like this nigga

>>530375752
The Kornous expanse is precisely where the known exception took place, with the halo device crawling in a navigator's third eye.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Psycharus_Worm

>>530376000
You quote that part as if it's exemplifying your point, but I see a well written bit of speech that fits his character. There's no wordiness there.

How about you rewrite that bit of dialogue Mr Book Writer, to demonstrate your point even further?

>>530376000
Don't even try to suggest conciseness around here, they'll call you an illiterate

>>530376295
I just did?
Legitimately 80% of the text of the game is completely unnecessary stuff an editor should have tossed.

>>530376886
>trying to slim down an opening speech for an event

>>530376782
It’s crazy. I’ve written and published short stories and a book. I’ve taught a creative writing class. “Don’t repeat yourself” holds as much in writing as in programming. I wouldn’t care if it were pages and pages of text if it weren’t 800 words to communicate “this character is pathologically inquisitive”.

>>530376015
Nevermind found it

>>530372631
I've just told you that I did play with TK. It's viable if you like turtling. But it's not worth it. No, you simply can not make you party immune to damage with a single round. One stack of exploit gives you 1% to armour. You would need at keast 50 enemies to make party immune to damage. Even more if you want to acount for armour penetration and characters wearing light armour. You're not even exaggerating anymore. You're straight up lying for the sake of winning an internet argument. As for 300% dodge reduction it's irrelevant, since jimmy casually reaches 400% dodge while also killing the boss withina a single round (officer+warrior heroics), so his dodge reduction doesn't even come into play and Bd/exec can reach similar if not better results.

>>530373753
Nah, frog at least knew his shot. That anon is just bad at the game

>>530377358
I already BTFO'd you, why did you wait a few minutes then come back pretending it didn't happen?
Then you immediately samefag >>530377548 ?
Christ.

Look it's very simple
More words = better crpg

Bring back the dao schizo rambling to himself about XP. That was funny.

>>530377818
I remember that
What an odd fellow

>>530376886
I prefer the original, personally. Omitting "in this complicated task" removes his personal voice and leaves the sentence awkward.
If I were to edit that opening speech, the only thing I'd omit, possibly, is "After all, nobody knows when that day will arrive, do they?" But I think it's not that bad. Your edits here are too much, though, I think.

>>530377097
I’m just picking random bits.

>>530377873
I’m cutting the maximum amount while preserving all communicated information. Some amount of noncommunicative dialogue is normal, but when there’s so much of it it makes characters seem wooden and self-absorbed.

>>530377932
>naively, it now seems
This bit stinks in particular

>>530378109
Yeah, the constant parenthetical expressions and adverbs that add nothing are such a classic bad writing thing.

>>530374149
I think you'd love siege of avalon lol

>>530378371
That would be how cammers talks becauae she is a noble and would be overly verbose to flaunt her upbringing.
It's good writing of a character intended to be unrelateable.

>>530378092
Yeah why would Daeran seem self absorbed? That would be crazy.

>>530378616
She's especially kind of a "try-hard" due to her past. You see that in differences between her and Daeran's speech, despite them both being "nobility"

>>530378616
>>530378618
Did you miss the part where I stopped reading in act 1 and am pulling random screengrabs?
The point is every character is written like this.

>>530379231
I think you're being autistic

>>530379231
>failed writer struggles to understand that characters should have their own voice and hasn't even read the thing he's talking about
>this is what the character model is for
The absolute state

>>530379231
Hell, YOU are written like this.

This reminds me of those dumb /v/ threads where people would edit down a crappy webcomic until its one panel with a single word. I'm not gonna say owlcat are some masters of writing but this >>530376886 is so overkill and you're ignoring that it fits the characters personality to give this sort of flowery speech, especially at his own birthday party.
There's no way he's going to just say the two lines you left him with and leave it at that.
>>530379231
Yeah and you're examples are retarded and completely ignore any context. You read 1% of a story and are judging it all based on what little you skimmed through.
Honestly I think wotr's story is dogshit but you're clearly just looking for a chance to jerk yourself off over how much of a better writer you are.

>>530379534
Yeah, you're autistic. None of this is bad.

>>530379231
>I stopped reading so I don't know anything about these characters
you absolute clown

I'm also not even saying it has the best or even superb writing, but your edits are just plain bad. You're consistently leaving out important info and dialogue that informs about the character. And it's not even that excessive to need pruning, honestly.
Did you get fired from your "teaching creative writing" class?

>>530379601
>random attentionwhore tries to look smart
Say it ain't so anon. Never saw that kind of thing around here.

>>530379534
Listen I don't want to call you autistic like the other guy but you get that every thing you crossed out completely changes the tone of the sentence yeah?

>>530379528
Every single character has the “self-obsessed, soapbox-carrying weirdo” voice.
Find a single terse character in the entire game. Even the ones that start out the tiniest bit clipped and secretive become like this within minutes.

>>530379601
Yes, this is actually a guerilla marketing campaign for my next book

>>530379926
Is it the sequel to your last book?

>>530380181
>hugh mann

fix'd

>>530380592
THIS is fixed.

>>530379601
I had the same thought too, but those are some of my favorite threads for both laff and non-laff reasons so I hope it continues.

>An ARMY of CANNIBALS?
No.

>An ARMY?
Much better.

This is like nega purple prose.

>>530380764
oh finally, some well written dialogue. They must have taken my creative writing course.

The man shot the bad guy
The end
Thank you for reading my novel.

>>530380592
>>530380764
I know this is taking the bait, but these remove information. Mine don’t.

>>530379787
Malice was like that in RT in Cumrag
Starts out as taciturn lizard man
Then reverts to chatty prattling infodump man

>>530381520
Yes they do.
Characterization is information.

>>530381520
No, it's just fluff, a prayer, it should be shown with the 3d model.

>>530381720
Nobody looks at the 3d models while they're reading text boxes.

>Argenta has a bolt pistol and a heavy bolter in her item sets
>see a talent that is obviously referencing the holy trinity of the adepta sororitas, the bolter, the flamer, and the melta
>nope
>in this game it's MELEE, flamer, and melta
>specifically not bolter, the thing she's using and is built for her
I don't really have cause to complain because Argenta is already completely overpowered shooting 50 rounds per turn that each deal 430 damage (not hyperbole) but still.

>>530381520

>>530381720
All I'd remove is "mortal"
>A gnat snaps its jaws at the Lord of Locusts!

>Behoooold the final daaaaawn... and diiiiiiieeeee
Cluttered, messy
>diiiiiiiieeeeee
Concise

>>530382054
That was the best line reading

>>530379785

>>530372413
I wanted to use this portrait, but don't want to play an old man.

>>530381880
lol'd

>>530381880
Now you’re getting it.

>>530382329
That guy is 18.

I choose use portrait of young pretty people because i don't want my husbands to be stuck with uggo hags. They deserve the best

This reminds me of the meme about the Hemingway "For sale: baby shoes, never worn" that he could have just reduced the story to "baby died"

Gonna make a Flamer Operative/Overseer with a Servo Swarm. Other than the entire character what should I change.

>>530376262
Evil black knight really is the best fantasy villian trope

Honestly, life in a feudal world is probable significantly better than in a hive world, or any kind of normal world honestly

As long as some drukhari don't stumble upon your planet by chance, you live a normal medieval paesant life.

>>530379231
You have a point. But you're being so stubborn about something so trivial that you just sound like an uptight asshole.

So is solasta two's main story going to be about 12 levels like the first games main story or since they added multiclassing its going to be a full 20 levels?

Why isn't there a cool evil black knight character in Rouge trader?

>>530382717
I think ministorum has to be the least played origin.

>>530383213
You're in 40k. Everyone's an evil black knight character.

>>530346863
>Personally I want a childhood friends romance
Then Jade Empire is for you.

>>530383228
Probably beats out Commissar.

>>530383340
Commissar has a cool hat so you're wrong.

All of Ulfar's new lines are delivered the same and are the same quality if not better.

Also I forgot to bring Pasqal to Eufrates lol

>>530383340
Commissar is probably very popular, people pick what is cool before what is good mechanically

>>530346863
I love these portraits, but there's no way to get any good charname portraits in this style.

>>530383340
A lot of people definitely played commissar just because of all the commissar fans.

>>530382717
Overseer does jackshit for you but uhh... get ballistics I guess? Missing cuts your damage in half

Is Rogue Trader good?

>>530383636
Yeah
I like it a lot
Many people dislike it but honestly I love the game, only thing it needs is a little bit more difficulty in the late game

>>530383636
Do you like trading rogues?

Arue is playing with the cat while Nenio contemplates a statue we found

>>530383636
I think it's my favourite owlcat game, but the combat desperately needs the rebalance it's hopefully getting.

Hand it over... that thing.... your trading rogues...

Rouge Trader

I hate nenio so much it's unreal

>>530383823
How does it compare to WOTR? If it’s less wordswordswords I’m in

>>530383760
I realized that had an accidental spoiler in it

Man, I'm in act 8 of Kingmaker and it's so damn hard to convince myself to keep playing for some reason.

>>530383213
Your Jimmy and Solomorne? You can push both of them into becoming that. One of them is even a swordsman

>>530384223
start using toybox to kill all the 50 billion kobolds per square meter that owlcat added to the game

>>530383228
I played it and I liked it best after Noble desu. Mostly for the theme
>>530383325
Or Expeditions: Vikings where you have two childhood friends to choose from

>>530384184
I can't fucking imagine thinking that a build autism game like WOTR is wordswordswords at all.

>>530384184
>If it’s less wordswordswords I’m in
What exactly is your experience and expectation for this genre? It's very much a wordswordswords genre, in case you somehow are just entering blind.
Anyhow, I would say personally that RT is a bit worse. There were a few times also that their voice over interfered with me being able to read the chunky paragraph, so I had no choice but to give up reading and just listen to them deliver the words for awhile. This was very bad for me, maybe others enjoy it.

>>530383397
Don't make me post the picture
>>530383440
>Also I forgot to bring Pasqal to Eufrates lol
Lol, same. Just switch on Remote Character Dialogue in toybox

>>530383729
>Many people dislike it
Lol no, it's just a couple of seething pozzfinder trannies. They are most certainly not "many people". I don't think they can even be classified as "people"

>>530384184
If you're that dumbass whining about how the writing in WOTR isn't concise enough then go fuck yourself you pseud.

I'm playing blackwater on hard for the first time and I'm honestly not finding it to be as bad as everyone said it was going to be.

>>530383003
Well yeah I am.

>>530384317
I think the problem is that every encounter at this point goes exactly the same way. And since I play combat turn based they all take fucking forever.

>>530384784
most people go there super early and enemies have 10 gorillion AC so they take 50 years to die

>>530384887
That's an owlcat game problem yeah, it's called buffclick (by me!) for a reason

>>530384874
Do you have this problem reading charles dickens and stuff?

>>530385280
No

>>530385471
Why? He's wordy as fuck too.

>>530385280
Not him, but you're not making yourself sound smart by comparing Charles Dickens to whatever """writer""" they picked up from Ao3

>>530385598
avellone got his start with sonic fanfics...

Post your grimdark unfair single round defiler kill with all 4 plasma batteries intact using only 2 characters.

>>530385598
If you'd ever read a dickens novel you'd have a better idea of why I made the comparison. I'm not saying WOTR has amazing writing. I'm just pointing out it's hypocritical to go on about how important being concise and shit is and then read something like
>It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair.

>>530385776
>double officer femchungus heckin killedrino the enemies!
get a trip nigga

>>530385776
You forgot to call someone a shiteating animal

>>530385776
>Playing as a woman
AGP freak

These threads may be shit but at least we don't have frogtard constantly derailing things because someone triggered him.

>>530385703
Well, he's no charles dickens. Also gib source. I wanna read those sonic fanfics

>>530385776
>single round
>not solo single round
You didn't beat the game

>>530385553
Well for one a book isn’t a game, so it makes sense to describe how things look. For two he’s actually pretty light on dialogue and tends to briefly summarize things people say rather than write everything out verbatim.

>>530385869
>animal
IT'S TR'ANIMAL!

>>530384184
It's a bit less wordy, and what there is has more punch

>>530386001
The autist who spergs out about RT not being easy if you don't play nearly every class and the one who spergs out if you don't break the game in the specific way he wants you to are nearly as bad.

>>530385869
lmao

Alright you *checks notes* snoygels and *checks notes* tranimals, post your 2 round grimdark unfair Aurora kills with no casualties

>>530386137
>Well for one a book isn’t a game, so it makes sense to describe how things look
There's no animations during dialogue, and the models look like they're made out of playdoh. You're right. Games aren't books. So why are you acting like an angry editor reading an essay?

>>530386287
>and the one who spergs out if you don't break the game in the specific way he wants you to
I haven't seen that one and I'm here constantly

>>530386287
What the fuck are you talking about

Kek. There might need to be a owlcat general sometime in the far future. Even when Solasta 2 comes out, it might be drown out by anons still very much still into RT. If Solasta is released next year it'll get drowned out by the remaining RT dlcs as well as new news about dark heresy. The /tv/ anons who are waiting for the expanse will drown out the 40k anons, and those anons might be converted into the expanse anons just because it's owlcat's newest game with new waifu/husbandos. That won't be until late 2026, or 2027. You get my point though, for the anons who want to talk about the smaller crpgs, they'll just get drown out with talks about owlcat games.

>>530386352
>snoygels
Should probably be "snoyfficers"

>>530386287
>The autist who spergs out about RT not being easy if you don't play nearly every class
Me telling you that you're retarded for complaining about the difficulty while using 2 officers 2 arch militants and 2 executioners doesn't make me an "autist" bud

>>530386459
This guy >>530386612

>>530386595
>The /tv/ anons who are waiting for the expanse
Lmao. Nobody gives a shit about shitspanse. it will be another avoid where 2 and a half people play it and then it is utterly forgotten 1 week later

>>530386543
Close

>>530386612
>2 officers 2 arch militants and 2 executioners
I use 1 officer, 1 executioner, and occasionally 1 arch-militant. Game's still easy. Now what?

>>530386595
We don't get new crpgs nearly often enough for any game to drown out others. If people were actually playing Solasta they'd talk about it.

>>530386813
Try using 0 and adjust from there? I didn't say the game is amazeballs the darksouls of CRPG hard, I said you're dumb for deliberately trying to optimize the game then complaining that you did just that

>>530386595
Did Solasta 1 even have a plot? All I heard about it was how great the gameplay was.

>>530386792

>>530385831
That's better than any amount of avellone-slop or owlshit

>WH40K: Rogue Trader - Dogmatic Lex Imperialis Livestream!
Why would I want to watch somebody else play RT when I could be playing it myself

>>530386940
>Try using 0 and adjust from there?
I did. Finished the game on hard with no officers, no executioners (it was before dlc) and no arch-militants. It was easy. Now what?

>>530387072
You listen to it while you're playing like every good zoomer.

>>530387078
Now do unfair and again, adjust from there. Reread my post

>>530386595
The RT spam is annoying but thats never going to happen. Like it or not owlcat discussion keeps these threads bumped, splitting off like that will just mean /crpg/ would die.
Also be real, no one gives a fuck about the expanse. Unless it somehow turns out to be an amazing 10/10 game it'll be forgotten in a week.

>>530386137
This is how this passage would go in WOTR:
>A man in crisp blue breeches and cropped hair looks you up and down, souring about the nose.
>>[Lawful] “I’m going to go outside and wait.”
>He frowns. “It is all well and good to go outside, but be sure you come back in time for the meeting. Being timely is important. Outside and around the corner — just to the east — is Smithfield, a perfectly good place to spend some time. My family has lived there for generations, and my wife’s as well. The church was quite beautiful before it was destroyed by the demons. Bah!”
>>[Three minutes of walking around and looting the same generic building models as in every other location]
>>[One of the people is named “Carlthiessen” instead of “Peasant” so you talk to him ]
>”Do you see that horrible old stone back there? The one next to the cathedral? Made of stone? With the black? And the bad aura? That’s Newgate Prison. It was built by the thrimbleknobs back in 1028, after the Knifebob war. All of the prisoners are in there. You can go there if you want.”
>A man, wobbling drunk but in the garb of a minister of justice, stumbles closer. He flashes a nervous smile. “Hello there. I am Lancer, the minister of justice here. We’re having a trial here at the Newgate prison, built by the thrimbleknobs back in 1028 after the knifebob war — ah, what a war it was, really — shortly. Would you like to come inside then and hear some of the prison’s trials? If you have a small amount, say, half a crown, I can talk with them and get you a front row seat. You’ll have a good view of the lord chief justice in his full regalia. He’s recently divorced, but it’s still quite a sight. Or a worse seat for around eighteen pence, if you’ve no need for that. The lord chief justice presides over the trials.”

Forget the good of the Imperium
Forget the embetterment of Mankind
What's in it for me?
You still haven't told me

>>530387367
millions are watching your every move

>>530387285
Why would you make up a scenario in your head and then get upset about it?

>>530386941
it had a plot befitting a home tabletop game
it wasn't "bad" it was just pretty much "this is the excuse to get to the adventure".

>>530387585
I get the appeal of solasta as a dnd with your friends simulator if you're actually playing with friends but I don't know who enjoys 5e enough that they'd want to play a pure 5e combat sim.

>>530387426
If you take adderall and don’t start working on time you focus on dumb things.

>>530387367
You, and all of humanity, are only alive because of the Emperor. So simply trying to repay him for saving you is a reasonable personal motivation.

I like that the game lets you ask that question a lot, and people always have something funny like "oh right, I forgot I was dealing with a rogue trader" and they give you some sort of bribe or incentive lol.

For me? I want to impress the voidborn goth chick. That's all the motivation I need for galaxy altering feats.

>>530386543

>>530388037
Hmmm... appeal to authority.

>>530384223
I literally dropped it when Lizzy turns into a book or whatever
Asking me to feel for a faerie that explodes regular people into monsters is a bit wild too

>>530387225
Ok, let's see the full list of things I can or can not do. I wouldn't want you to move the goalposts yet again

>>530387367
>What's in it for me?
In what? What are you talking about?

>>530388242
>Ok, let's see the full list of things I can or can not do.
You seem to be having a schizo moment where you look for my approval, reread the whole reply chain

>>530388108
lol. nice job with the fonts, always good to see meeming go the extra mile.

>>530388469
No, I don't think I will. But I do accept your concesion. Learn to be better at the game before you whine about the difficulty

>>530385831
Condense all that to "It was a time" and we have a hit.

>>530388809

>>530388469
>constantly derail shit by throwing out strawmen about people using 500 officers
>refuse to actually engage with anyone who tells you they aren't doing that

>>530388881
Just saying "Time" would be more than enough

Does not importing a through the ashes save lock me out of w.e quest in the main story later on?
That was an okay dlc for a single playthrough but I have no desire to ever do it again

>>530388942
>>530388910

>>530388961
You just won't get some minor loot in act 1. Lord of Nothing give you an extra boss and some loot too

>>530388961
Your party get a minor cameo later.

>>530388961
You can import the same single through the ashes save repeatedly

>>530389034
Yes, exactly.

>>530387367
There's a lot of fun between the lines.
What do you want? A hot tub? It's yours. Want to become an opera singer? The finest vocal trainer in all the Expanse is to be delivered to your quarters at once, Lord Captain. Six thousand guardsmen died singing your praise in the attempt. Want to meditate and achieve enlightenment? Anyone who knocks on your door in the next 24 hours shall be executed.

Do you even know what you want?
Do you even know what you'd spend the money on if you had an infinite amount?
What's that, you want to live on a homestead with your perfect tradwife and 2 children where you know nothing but tranquility and bliss? You currently wield more power than anyone in the world to fight for that future.

It's a terrible thing to be selfish without a self.

>>530389602
>you want to live on a homestead with your perfect tradwife and 2 children
I'm working on it now. Just need to find an heir for the writ

>>530386004
it was a joke anon, don't believe everything you read online

>>530389813
Well, it could have been true. Kaplan started as an abusive Everquest forum poster after all

>rate of fire: 37
>it's still the first round of combat
The Emperor protects

>>530382712
>The young woman looks care-worn, aged before her time.
>"Will you buy these baby shoes, milord? They are... as good as new"
>[Awareness: Failure] some unspoken trauma eats away at the woman, but as to what it might be, you cannot venture a guess

>>530390029
Uhm. Akshually you didn't beat the game?

>>530390029
>while critting for 600
>37 times
Best girl
No Argenta romance is a crime. Even if it was just handholding and praying together, not being able to show your appreciation for and dedication to best girl is honestly a crime.

Hopefully there is a faithful lady warrior in Dark Heresy who has a romance.

>>530390506
Your kibbles?

>>530381862
Shes already a monster with bolters, it would make no other option worth it at all.

>>530390535
Not into bloodplay

>>530390506
my thoughts exactly and for the same reason. I'm okay with headcanon romances, I don't need to fuck a nun, but it's cruel to set up so much emotional torment and intentional endearment in a character and then not let the player interact with it in a satisfactory way.

>>530390535
Sorry, I prefer my waifus to have a personality

>>530390535
Yeah Kibbelah is cool so I can't complain too much. But she didn't exist for a long time. It would still be nice to have a little prayer session with Argenta where you sit together and hold hands or something. Maybe make it exclusive to doing her questline and being dogmatic+icono, and doing the orphan quest in a satisfactory manner. Make it sort of a secret romance hidden behind certain quests and alignments.

>>530390954
You simply aren't strong enough for a crazy religious girl

>>530390506
>Even if it was just handholding and [meditating] together
Elantach, I'm right here

>>530390506
You know damn well that if handholding was all you got she'd be written off as a cuck romance-in-name-only

Priest is the best origin in Rouge trader because you can use war hymn to instantly get a heroic act.

>>530391858
Shut up, cunt

>>530391959
Should we really care about what schizos think?

>>530391960
You have to build for it. Argenta has the same ability and unless you build for it it's not gonna be effective for building momentum

>>530392085
>build for it
All you do is select willpower everytime you can in the level up screen.

>>530392242
Yeah, but who's even benefitting from willpower except psykers? It's a tertiary stat for all archetypes at best or completely unnecessary at worst

Creepy. There's a thing in front of us. It very clearly killed that noble guy and is possibly inside of him.

>>530392321
Don't officers have some willpower scaling stuff. Though if you're going officer you don't need war hymn anyway.

>>530392351
You'll find out :)

>>530391858
>handholding
you can't even hold hands in your mind

>>530392414
If you are going officer you can use war hymn to build up momentum even faster.

You know, I keep talking about how awesome Argenta is, but every good soldier has an officer backing them up.

*Casts Inspire with 828 stacks*

>>530391959
Only by a small number of people, who already have compromised perception of reality and will yell that about a great many things where it's not applicable. Most people like fluffy cute handholding romances. Not everything has to be sexooo.

Ooooh i finally just got it, her name is vyatt because it sounds like blyat.

>>530392805
It's actually because of her gyatt

>>530384514
I really should turn that on. I feel like I bring characters just for story reasons, which is annoying when I dont like some of them, though that is not a problem with Pasqal.

Pasqal? Isn't that a dog's name?

>>530390029
>>530390506
I couldn't really make Argenta work until about 2/3rds of the way through act 2, then she was ripping and tearing. Wish I could figure out how to make her mess shit up earlier.

They would have given Argenta the same three endings as Kibber
>Rogue Trader you have revealed in me a weakness that I must purge [she leaves you and sets off to be a Sister Militant]
>You have shown me another way to serve the Emperor. Rogue Trader, I love you [you live happily ever after and your firstborn daughter is sent to Adepta Sororitas school]
>I will slaughter our enemies with your name on my lips, my love [Sister Corruptia]

Wait so let me get this right, this Xeno bitch sold me out to the Drukhari but also thought they would actually help her out for doing it and not betray her? Is she fucking retarded? She deserves to die the Emperor was fucking right about Xeno's but she lives due to how much damage she does

>>530393058
Give her a lasgun or the ripper from the lower decks before you get her the modified bolter. Alternatively spec her into area attacks and use a flamer, she fucks in act 1 with flamers.

>>530393248
Yeah she turning on (You) is handled pretty badly
You know people complain about having no reasons to keep marzipan around because he's evil
Well this bitch drags you and yours to torture city because of a misunderstanding

>>530393058
Give her the ripper or autocannon in the freight line until early on
She's good with sniper rifles too

>>530393636
Well I suppose so she did say sorry and didn't even call me a monkey while doing it so all is forgiven for dragging me to my torture death nightmare

>your slow team mates lower your entire team's average initiative
Time to purchase some agility advancements for everyone.

>>530393248
No, she thought they would actually help her out for basically nothing and didn't see them taking all of you down coming.

Ok check this
An ork who believes he is a space marine.

>>530394264
Ewww

>>530393248
Well you'd met Marzipan three times already and kicked his ass every time so she reasoned this time would be no exception
Unfortunately for everyone elantach wasn't quite up to the challenge this time

>>530393225
This, Kibellah is made from Argenta scraps same as Solomorne is made from Jimmy scraps

>>530394264
And elfdar who was raised by humans on a feudal world and believes in the Emperor and thinks she's just a funny looking human

>>530394264
Fishmalk/10

Perpetual companion (romanceable)

>>530393248
>also thought they would actually help her out for doing it and not betray her?
Not really, yrilkek decided to check the coordinates Marazhai mockingly had told her without telling us the resource.
She thought she's a special snowflake here and drukhari planned to torture her by making art installation from dead aeldari or something similar at best.
Turned out that it's actually a well-planned trap for a rogue trader and drukhari indeed spent so much energy for muh simple monkeigh.
>Is she fucking retarded?
Yes, she is.

Crime lord solider breaks the game.

>>530393225
hmmm.... nice.
She's done all 3 to me, so it's only fair

luv me dogma
luv me meltagun
luv me protectorate
but most of all
luv me Emprah

Simple as.

>having even a single heretic point

>>530397784
>luv me meltagun
If they put the +range ,- AP helmet in chapter 2, maybe

Idira x Yrliet toxic yuri.

>>530398083
Idira x Argenta more likely
Yrliet x RT is already toxic

>>530398201
There is nothing toxic about yrliet x RT

>>530360476
It's one of the best ones in games

>>530398306
on emotional level, not physical, anon

>>530393248
She didn't betray you. She asked you to go on a sidequest with her, like you do with everyone else where you blast your way through any obstacle. The only difference is that you actually fail this one time and get captured

I can't ever take Aeldari seriously when they're calling me an inferior monkey all the time.

>>530399291
>She asked you to go on a sidequest with her where you blast your way through any obstacle
This. It works every other time.

>>530399598
I prefer the way they say it in the dawn of war games, "Mon Kai"
Sounds like some exotic space Celtic name

>get to Drukhari Raid mission in Act 2
>scarred gladiator says the lucky gladiators got to go off-world.
If only he knew what I saved him from by killing him.

Kibbles and FemTrader

>>530399291
> take a quest from a drukhari who already destroyed your monkeigh's capital with bait and switch maneuver.
> pretend it's your quest and give it to your team leader
> don't say a word that it might be way more dangerous than they expect
> elantach, you failed this time, how!?
And why it didn't work this time, huh uh

>>530397784
>having even a single heretic point
>he says as he has ironclast points

>>530401018
>Elantach is trying a new build, kitten. This usually never happens to me

>>530401018
monkeigh... do better

>>530401172
If you want better, put out.

I want to make vyatts pussy quiver.

>>530401172
>do better
I did, she didn't like it

Is this a turn it off and on again joke

>>530402548
Yep
There's also fixing a paper jam in the astropathic choir

ok that was funny

>>530403016
>pipewarden

Does anything come out of it if I make him a spy?

>>530403016
>tfw
>Heinrix rubs the bridge of his nose, looking tired. "This absurdity has dragged on for too long... So be it. The Emperor as my witness, I am reluctant to revisit my early training experience in the Administratum, but I am going to have to. Does Lady Molles-Secundas have a paper that certifies she is alive? If not, the defendant is to be deemed dead, with all that entails."

>>530403395
I do not think so.
Making him a priest kinda does (if you have that option, I may be mixing enforcers)

>>530403605
Yeah I do.

The void shadow investigation quest was pretty good
I'm kinda hopeful for dark heresy now

I'm playing Void Shadows for the first time and kinda regret being warhammerfag for so long before this game. I wonder how does it feel to learn about this setting for the first time while playing this game. My knowledge gives me unfair meta advantage and spoilers in a way. Genestealers must hit different if you know nothing about them

>>530405074
I know fuck all about 40k so it's pretty cool for me at least

Is Overseer worthwhile for Jae or stick to Master Tactician

I respec'd raven overseer idira because it is an AP hog and couldn't be bothered to use it

It's so gay that you can get traumas from regular attacks and then you have to walk back to the voidship.
It should only be if you let the character die

>>530397784
ok troonie

Really don't know how you can pick Heretic or Iconoclast decisions in this game
>Oh Abelard please won't someone think of the children vs
>Bwahahaha I sure do love drowning puppies and stomping kittens

Both just fucking suck compared to Dogmatic

Dark Heresy info pls

>>530407263
you will be able to fuck tech-priest

>>530407182
>[Dogmatic] I don't like you, die!

>>530405074
Why would a Rouge Trader know nothing about the universe?
Any game implies knowledge of the protagonist about the setting unless it's some isekai shit.

Holy pot calling the kettle

>>530409346
Yeah but the Arbites act as if the Imperium is governed by the rule of law so they're extra annoying.

Holy shit, you can actually not get stabbed by Kunrad now. Was that always an option that I was too busy reeeeee'ing at him to ever see, or did they add it?

>>530410228
It was always an option, you just need to agree on everything he says. BUT if you decide to step through the flame, you get cleansed.

>>530408239
Based

>>530410619
You can actually defy him and mock him a fair bit. It's only if try to attack him with psyker powers or make it absolutely clear that you aren't going to the door unforced that he'll stab you. Which makes sense. The whole reason he needs you is because he's too warp-tainted already. He probably doesn't want to risk exposing you to the daemon dagger unless absolutely necessary.

You can also just make him super mad if you pass the hidden check to get a super-effective insult, in which case he gets so angry he forgets the plan and just stabs you.

Fully respecing solomorne but I want to keep his archtypes.
Dog looks like it takes too much ap and talents to work and will get in the way of his shotgun and other melees.
Should I bother trying to make the dog work or just make it follow him as a bodyguard and use the skill that lets me attack again and regain ap for more dakka?
Bite might be cool if it can actually land a hit but I doubt it will unsupported since the dog has terrible agility/perception.

Also, melta for armor pierce or sniper on his second wrapon slot?

>>530409146
Because it's a game buddy, chill
Just ignore all the "huuuuuuh what's the imperium???" lines

>crpg general
>look inside
>rogue trader general

Suits me. Here's a question: Does cover affect burst shots at all?

>>530412546
>crpg general
More like Owlcat games general

>>530412546
I was just thinking about that baiting tard in /coopg/ complaining that it's all about Darktide. Total Warhammer supremacy, feels good man

>>530407263
Eldar corsair companion hates human men because they steal eldar women. His parents are Yrliet and Marazhai.

>>530412546
I believe it's affected by cover the same as individual shots

>>530411652
Those are the shadow of torment psyker lines

>>530412930
Wrong. Eldar Corsairs are the only Eldar that will be bros with human men, even if they have a crude grasp, at best, of void combat strategy.

>>530413219
Might be a cool character in that case

>>530412546
>Does cover affect burst shots at all?
It can catch some of the shots coming your way

kek

>>530413687
>forgefiend ship
>Ymremeryss
>sargona

These 3 are the only fights that I found difficoult on hard so far, I'm in act 4
I cannot fathom how this person thinks the game is just too hard on normal.
You can play it on storymode if you want, no issue from me, but that is a very unserious criticism

>>530413687
>complete degenerate
Who would have thunk

I love owlcat games so much bros

What do I choose for my first Foulstone project
I don't want to fuck myself over later

>>530413932
I'd say on launch pre cuck aurora before I started abusing Idira, that same ff ship before I realized you should make a beeline for the speakers and one of the random encounters mainly because I wasn't prepared for armor ~200% gigaservitors immune to mental damage. All skill issue at the time on my part.

>>530412546
Biggest crpg after baldur's gate which has its own general

HOW THE FUCK DO I INCREASE MY PROFIT FACTOR

>>530414287
Oh yeah, and the janus gov fight fucked me something bad first time I did it on unfair. Fuck that bolterfag in the back with stun grenades.

>>530414387
Colony projects start shitting out PF once they're up and running. Contracts too, which you fulfil using resources you mine. Don't worry, you won't be broke forever

>>530414172
Just bee you'reself

>>530414387
Act?

The fact that you can't get officially married to Cassia without basically breaking the romance baffles me.

Like, the true ending of the romance is being her open-secret lover while she turns down all offers for her hand or genes, but the 'bad' ending in which you marry her shows that the Valancius family has enough weight to get a marriage anyway, so why not just do that?

>>530407182
There is a share of bad options all around.
Heretic has some great options for a generally greedy/power hungry character and iconoclast has some flat common sense ones when everyone else is being a murderous retard.

>>530414793
Something something something tragic romance.
Something something something bad writing.

>>530414793
Just someone at Owlcat having a tragedy fetish. The only female romantic character that could get an unambiguously happy end until the DLC was fucking Jae of all people.

>>530414724
2
Freed dargonus and Kiava

Pets seem to be bugged in Slaanesh incursion event. They act as separate and utterly useless allies. You can only use relocate at them, but not any other skill

>>530414974
Yeah that's when you're a bit short. So contracts from the contracts page, and develop your colonies, and you'll gain $$ as necessary.

>>530414974
What is your PF at atm out of interest?

>Kibellah romance
>She raises your first-born child as the new Viszier candidate
>But she's just created the Grace of the Web, in which the Viszier can become the sacred spouse of the Rogue Trader
>The Rogue Trader will almost certainly have more children, who will become the next Rogue Trader
>And who the next Viszier might become the sacred spouse to

Uh oh.

>>530415087
All aboard the SS Habsburg.

>>530415165
Nothing some mechanicus toys can't fix.

>>530415073
26 because I repaired the ship from LI

My rogue trader still has these stupid voices in his head. How can I get rid of them? Nearing the end of Act 1.

>>530415308
Take meds

>>530415254
Okay that is way too low, go scan planets and hand that shit in with Opticon, fulfill contracts for resource you got in abundance and I hope you got the good deal with Vladdy for when you finish Janus so you get a good inflow of cash. Also you should just always do Janus first simply for that.
Aside from that get colony projects done that boost profit factor and then raise complacency.

>>530415308
Act 2 event I think

wrath of the lost is such a banger

When Calcazar calls you to meet on footfall, how much of act 4 is left? I want to understand if I have to do all the rumors of the expanse now or if I can go meet him first.

>>530416740
The point of no return is incredibly signposted you can't accidentally trigger it, and that isn't it.

>>530416740
Act 4 is (undercooked) companion quests, DLC stuff, the battle of Eufrates and the footfall ruler thing

>>530417089
People can say what they want about RT Act 4, I vastly prefer it to Wrath Act 5. That one's just a fucking slog without end.

As a dogmatic character, is there any justification you can make to recruiting Yrliet

>>530403395
You get a contract. I can't remember what the actual trade was, maybe weapons for profit margin?

>>530417495
Yes. You hate Chaos, Eldar hat Chaos. Now you can kill Chaos together.

It's funny how everyone shits themselves when seeing Kibs

>>530417876
Seems a reasonable reaction to seeing someone who looks like a deranged psycho.

>>530417945
>someone who looks like a deranged psycho.
But enough about Idira

>>530417990
Idira just looks like a tired middle aged black woman. You'd only know she's fucked up if she opens her mouth.

>>530417495
She's a useful guide and you have a shared enemy in chaos. It's perfectly usual for dogmatic traders to have xeno assistants, that's why you have the warrant.

Kibellah's voice acting is beginning to annoy me
It's always the exact same sexy asmr tone

>>530403395
Yeah he brings you an opportunity to destabilize a rival house. I think Winterscale? It's a contract basically

>>530417672
total eldar death

Girls who represent their inner world as a maze are even worse trouble than girls who represent it as a jungle

If I kill Yrliet, will Calligos always fall to khorne?

>>530415087
Ptolemaic dynasty style.

>>530418949
Yrliet is of no consequence concerning Calligos.

>>530419053
But you do have to Spare the xenos right?

>>530418949
I don't think she's relevant, it's more about you solving the puzzle like a detective case

Woah

>>530417495
Rowboat Girllyman made it legal.

>>530420098
Sorry sister but they retconned it :)

>>530420179
I choose which ever lore I want, it's just plastic mini selling game, lore is just extra.

First time playing Rogue Trader. How hard should I care about character building? Is there a "one good first time" build, or just go with the flow?

>>530420628
Just go with the flow and read the skills before choosing them on leveling up. It's all about making your characters absurdly overpowered and it's not hard to do

>>530420517
I can respect that.

>>530420628
Go with the flow for having fun and making mistakes and then enjoying when you fix them. With with a guide if you want to kill what fun there is in combat.

>>530420517
Do people actually buy the minis? What do they do with them

>>530420921
There's an entire terrible game you're meant to play them with

>>530420921
Unmentionable things...
they... play with them!