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>Previous: >>530345764>Thread Question: Should Space Battles and ship management be expanded?
>>530435507 (OP)>Should Space Battles and ship management be expanded?No
>>530435118>>530435058Right. Thanks, well I'll stick with my character for now, will see what comes out of it
Are RT's companions the best in a crpg ever? I like them so much I'm actually having problems deciding who to pick.
Our new lord inquisitor Anton is much hotter than Xavier.
>>530435798Give me Inquisitor - Inquisitor romance right now, I fucking hate xenos
>>530435747I dunno if they are "da best EVAR" especially when it has yrliet who changes on a dime depending on which of her 3 writers wrote that particular scene, but I do like almost all of the companions and dont feel the compulsion to forever bench someone because I don't like or care for them
>>530435507 (OP)>>Thread Question: Should Space Battles and ship management be expanded?I want to say yes because it sounds interesting, but every other fiber of my being says no.
>>530435747i am actually also having this issue
Abelard and Pasqual are mainstays for personality reasons
Cassia is too useful to left, now i have to Juggle Argenta, Solomorne, Heinrix, Kibellah and Ulfar when i get them for the rest of my party
i fucking hate that Commoragh forces you to take Yrliet if you don't kill her, i want to actually finish her quest this time (since last time i sacrificed her to Slannesh) but fuck off with this forced companion bullshit
>>530436139>Cassia is too useful to left, now i have to Juggle Argenta, Solomorne, Heinrix, Kibellah and Ulfar when i get them for the rest of my partyDidn't bother with any of them past first run.
>>530436139>not bringing idira and argenta to cumrag (and eachother's quests)
>>530435747They are sure better than KM and WotR's
What wrapon should I put on my second loadout as arbites for attacks of opportunity? Revolvers or snipers? I'm not ever using shotguns again after the incident
>>530436072Inquisitors only romance demons
>>530437104Whatever works best at that time negroid
>>530436072Damn then you guys would yell fem Jimmy is a hag and not a virgin
>the most unrepentantly evil companions in both pf games are all women(Wendog, Camellia, Jaethal)
What did owlcat mean by this?
>>530437419>What did owlcat mean by this?Evil women are hot
>>530437419They have a evil woman fetish
>>530435350Pyro doesn't ignore armor and deflection, mental doesn't do shit to robots. They're both good in their way.
>>530437419>The Chaotic Evil man is literally just some guy that drinks>The Neutral Evil guy would sooner just kill himself than do anything evil>The Lawful Evil guy is actually the coolest guy if you soothe his sacrificing bonerI guess there's Marazhai to break the narrative but that's anoher game.
Pop culture trivia: Bonnie Tyler's 1988 hit song "The Best", famously covered by Tina Turner in 1989, was originally written as a musical homage to Jae Heydari.
>>530437419!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So what exactly was Theodora's alignment? Was she dogmatic/heretic? She dabbled in chaos objects, so much that Agenta ended her life for it. I could see the same thing happening to some random anon's RT. Pasqal being the one to put them down.
>>530439018Canonically it's True Thot
>>530439018Chorda - Dogmatard
Calligos - Iconotard
Theodora - Herecuck
>>530439219>Calligos - IconotardAhahaha oh wow
Well, maybe his son is, yeah.
>>530439018>Actively grooming her psyker pet to become a Daemonhost>Fucked around with necron bullshit>Mindwiped his entire crew, even her trusted assistant, to cover it upIconoclast 140%.
>>530439374>dies to dumbest of shit>fosters a jeanstealer infestation140% is too little. Bitch went over 9000%.
>>530439219>Theodora - Herecuck>Our Rogue trader had to undue her fuckups with either our own or for the betterAnd then our descendants will have to undue our fuck ups, such is the cycle.
>>530439219>calligos"BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!"
>anon"iconotard"
>>530439559'Let the Cycle be Discontinued'
>>530439592There was a tard involved in making that post at least.
>>530439592Anon just knows how iconokeks end
>>530439374>ctively grooming her psyker pet to become a DaemonhostWait, was did added post release or in a book hidden away? I didn't use idira much in my playthrough but I don't remember that at all.
Just her not caring much about Idira
>>530439219>Calligos - Iconotard?
>>530439219so the real reason why xavier favored theodora was because they both dabbled in xenos/chaos. it was'nt because they were fucking, you anons lied to me!
>>530439304>>530439592>>530439796Calligos is an Iconoclast caring nothing for Imperium, living only for himself. His recklessness led to him getting exposed and fucked over by Chaos
>>530439516>fosters a jeanstealer infestationI bet she fucked some of them
>>530439963right, right, because when you're on the iconokek path, he joins your crew as a secret companion
oh no, wait a minute....
>>530439974I bet you fucked some of them
>That one Rogue trader in the Von valancius crpyt who dedicated a whole area to their dead xenos lover
Our bloodline was pretty awesome though.
>>530440328You were adopted
>>530440106You save him on a iconokek playthrough and he rewards you for it, doesn't need to be a companion. His naive iconokekism led to him to being used by Chaos but you save him from it since he isn't a Heretic like Theodora.
Each Rogue Trader is a cautionary example about disadvantages of each alignment
>>530440769Nice larp. Meanwhile Caligobro takes skulls for the skull throne and fucks lizards in his xenobrothel grand cruiser.
>>530441254Only if he isn't himself and is unwillingly possessed by a Khorne daemon. He used to be iconokek before results of iconokeking got to him
>>530441603>He used to be iconokek before results of iconokeking got to him>First thing he does upon meeting you is hand you an overpowered sniper and asks that you kill xenos with itDamn, didn't know Iconoclasm was based.
>The monster disappeared, and silence returned once more. Steam rises from freshly baked cookies and fragrant tea on the table. Arueshalae gazes at her dream. You've never seen such joy on her face. โI... I just want to live here, in the mortal world. With you. I've solved the goddess's riddle. This is my true dream!โ
>Arueshalaeโs fragile body flares with a rainbow light, a swarm of blue butterflies surrounds her. She looks at you with shining eyes. โI love you. Will you be with me? Will you share my dream?โ
>The girl flinches, but doesnโt pull her hand away. She squeezes your hand with her dry, hot fingers. โI believe you. You must be real โ I donโt want to imagine a world where youโre not.โ
>As if she was just waiting for that, Arueshalae answers your smile with one of her own. โTogether, no hardship will scare us. Weโll get through it! We definitely will!โ
>The heat radiating from Arueshalaeโs body warms you and fills you with peace. Closing her eyes, she leans closer into you, her face moving toward yours...
>Arueshalae takes your hand in her small, hot palm, and the world around you fades away.
I bless this thread with my hands.
>>530441603>i can fix himSounds gay. Nothing to fix.
>>530441730He is already under Khorne influence there
This is how Calligos was originally described
So what are the alignments in RT?
Religious, anti-religious and communist?
How would you improve romance content in CRPGs going forward? The guy last thread had a point that one of the major issues with CRPG romances are that the protagonist is, in a choice and consequences full character creation game, by design a blank slate. That makes it quite difficult to create reasonable and good romance arcs because you cannot write it with both characters personalities and traits in mind. Which is why JRPGs blow CRPGs out of the water when it comes to romance since they have both a a love interest with a defined personality, and a protagonist with a defined personality, which makes things far easier to write. I do not see an easy way to solve this problem for CRPGs.
>>530442667catholic protestant and retarded
>>530442743romance content is for losers so I don't care
>>530442651Sounds like his alignment is Based
>>530442667Retarded, Retarded and Retarded
>>530435507 (OP)is there any effects to beelining it for cumrag asap? my dogtard RT doesn't wanna piss off his daddy xavier
>>530442667Dogmatic is pure belief in the Emperor and the Imperium at large, valuing the whole over the sum of its parts and being willing to make hard decisions that are harsh, brutal, and uncompromising, with absolutely no mercy to anyone involved. Iconoclast is valuing individual well being over the good of the whole and being a kind, altruistic person in general towards your servants and your enemies. Heretic is becoming a brain damaged moron to such a degree that your retardation spreads to everyone around you.
>>530443248I think Calcazar does comment on it, so if you want to roleplay like that then go ahead.
>>530443248>Dogmatic>Loyal to anyone but the EmperorYou are a failure, turn in your Aquila at the next available opportunity. Also, no, you can take as long as you want or do it very fast and it changes nothing.
>>530442667Retarded evil, retarded clueless and cartoonier retarded evil.
>>530443619>absolutely no mercy to anyone involvedNot true. You get dogmatic for both killing the wounded rebel and for detaining him until you verify he's not traitor against you. You also get dogmatic from going batshit aggro the second you find knife ears and for agreeing to fight with them against daemons but under your terms and that's only on Janus.
Heretic is both schizo retarded and opportunistic bully with a pinch of my ass before anyone else.
Only one that doesn't have any place and is there for secondaries and newfags is the iconoclast since it's naive stupidity you won't pick 9/10 because they're obvious trap choices for people who know better.
>>530444260They literally make dogmatic choices more lenient specifically for secondaries like you, midwit. Most people wouldn't want to be true dogmatic.
>>530444260>Obvious trap choicesNot really, the only time Iconoclast choices finally started having negative consequences was in the Void Shadows DLC. In the base game Iconoclast hands down has the best effects and resolutions to most quests and storylines, with a few exceptions like Rykad.
>>530444590Your asshole itching for an engagement that bad buddy? Sorry, no homo. Move along.
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>>530445038Alright, 4/10 times at the very least for the really dumb ones and a whole bunch that don't make much sense in the context of this setting. Imho they should've just made a semi-hidden corruption meter and did it right, relevant to companions as well.
>>530443787up to act 4 or 5 there's no reason to think calcazar doesn't have the imperium's best interest at heart. going straight for the throat of the xenos seems like a good thing, no?
>>530445867>going straight for the throat of the xenos seems like a good thingWarmaster Horus wouldn't have said it better himself
Has anyone figured out how to Toybox Solomorne's discussion before landing in Leethus in act 4?
>>530445867It's fine to treat him as a colleague, but you are the Rogue Trader, a direct servant of the Emperors will and the bearer of his Warrant. Treating Calcazar as if he is in any way above you is subhuman behavior not fitting the head of the Von Valancius dynasty.
>>530446232It's romance-only stuff. If you aren't romancing him, feel free to land on Leethus. It's kinda a bug, your only alternative is to spread your cheeks for him.
>>530446895I was worried it might have to do with his Commorag 'bond with Ghaito is fucked' thing.
Oh well, worst case scenario, suboptimal resolution/fucked up flags for the DLC and will do it better in 6+ months
>>530447098>I was worried it might have to do with his Commorag 'bond with Ghaito is fucked' thing.his what now
i'm doing that part right now and bought him along, is his questline fucked or something?
>>530447098>I was worried it might have to do with his Commorag 'bond with Ghaito is fucked' thing.Nah, it happened to me even when I got through the entirety of LI in act 4
>>530447534awesome thanks homocat
>>530447383For many companions, whether you brought them on Cumrag or not and how you resolved issues there affected shit later.
I am wondering if the convo in Act 4 I can't do is related
fun battle
I like this boarding quest so far
>>530448243>Derrek Chauvinus
>>530448243which difficulty
>>530448862Custom Unfair+
>>530448243who the FUCK is Garrett
>>530448862Looks like hard based on HP
>>530448953You realize RT allows mercs, right?
I gotta say there's something to owlcat
I dunno what it is about their games but I legit can't drop them
>>530448243>9 peopleStill shit, huh. Your people getting one shotted or you unfucked your builds?
>>530448953Garrett is my character actually
Derrek is a merc
>>530449031>mercs on my shipThis is a respectable vessel of the Imperium. Only loyal servants blessed by His name are allowed in. And I guess a few heretics and xenos, you can't watch every entrance.
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>>530449274good thing solmorne is watching your rear entrance
>>530449502Why do you have this image
I decided to try DAO run using a female warden for the first time in my life.
I was thinking about what to do for romance and realised that girls got fucked pretty hard in that regard.
I refuse to ever do any sort of gay or lesbian romance, Zevran has a date with the tip of a sword, that leaves Alistair as the only choice and every path involving him is kind of bad.
First you choose between one of you dying or having your lover impregnate someone else.
Then if you are not human and make him king, you got to deal with the fact that he will need to marry and impregnate a human woman down the line.
Lastly even f you pick everything right by being born as a human or keeping him as a warden you will still need to live knowing that he has a child with someone else while dealing with being almost impossible for two wardens to have a child together.
>>530451265All I can really say here is
Lol
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Lmao
Netorase franchise
Overseer Idira with biomancy can give warp speed to all characters lmfao what the fuck is this shit
>>530451029why are you erect
>>530452497purple and yellow is a kino combination though
not sure what flag is it supposed to be
How do people not think this is attractive? Only women can reply
>>530452080Giving everyone just Prescience and dodge makes my squad untouchable.
>>530452497>Took over 80 hoursSurely thinning your paints doesn't take that long?
>>530451265You can actually put yourself on the throne as femwarden, and then marry Alistair, cutting out Anora, which makes more sense, because she was a queen consort anyway, not queen in her own right.
But yes, if you want both of you alive you will need him fucking Morrigan.
Which is probably not all that rosy and fun for him, kek.
>>530452631don't forget cumwhite on the pauldron
>>530452740they're organic
>>530452790>No option to just make it a threesome to make it less awkwardPft
>>530435507 (OP)>Should Space Battles and ship management be expanded?Yes, it's their best minigame yet. Though we're not getting them in DH it seems, since the game will take place within the confines of a single planet opr system
>>530436072Gives me strong Cassandra vibes. Cassandra was second best girl after Josephine
>>530453510>single planet opr system>citation needed
>>530435798Dubious claim, since we don't know anything about zerbe yet. Calcazar is pure sex tho
>>530452649Its the lighting but she looks purple. Shes bald and her skin looks bad.
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>>530442651Beyond based character.
>>530454095Should I play dragon age origins and inquisition?
I've only played 2
I know inquisition is also shit but it has Cassandra so it can't be TOO shit
>>530445867He always has Imperium's best itnerests in mind. Where he's nisguided is another story, but he is loyal and dogmatic. Just radical
>>530454343Yes and yes. They're both worth playing simply for seeing how things go. But if you're going to play Inquisition make sure to mod in that instant War Table mission mod.
>>530454343Why would you play 2 first
How do I complete the feudal world shit
I did everything and I still can't move forward
>>530440328Not to worry - I took out the trash and jettisoned it all into the Maw
Wait did they change this mission? Well fuck that im killing everyone.
>>530454343Origins is good.
Inquisition is either hit or miss. I like it because of the characters.
>>530454663I was 13 and it was on sale on the ps3 store and I asked my mom to buy it because it looked like skyrim
>>530452649Bald women are not attractive
>>530453746You can look up their interviews after the release
>>530445038Funnily enough you get bonus ship hull points from an iconoclast choice in void shadows.
>>530454742They added in Sauerback commentary essentially
>>530454689What have you actually doen so far?
>>530455049>making shit upGotcha.
>>530454343>OriginsOkay game, certain parts are a slog and the combat is trivialized by Mages, who are simultaneously the only fun thing in the entire combat system.
>Inquisition Endless fetch quests, garbage empty zones, and some of the worst combat in CPRG history. It is quite bad.
>>530455145I don't remember it eating 2 Profit Factor before.
>>530454767>Inquisition is either hit or miss. I like it because of the characters.I liked the locales, they were fun to explore
>>530452649She looks like she fucks genestealers
>>530454796>looked like SkyrimI bet you were disappointed. I recommend Origins. If you liked 2 then try Inquisition.
I would breed any female Rouge trader portrait.
>>530455145drank alcohol gotten attacked by mutants talked to the statue guy talked to solomorne who said there was something weird freed the weird dog talked to the cogitor talked to maeve
>>530455302>I bet you were disappointed.I was, people say skyrim dungeons are copypasted but when I met the repeating repurposed DA2 dungeons I couldn't believe it.
I was also sold dragon's dogma by a game stop employee on this premise and I wasn't too impressed by that one either, for different reasons.
>>530455328We know heinrix
>>530455793Other way around
>>530455328I bet you would
>>530455328Even the old black woman one. The one nobody as ever used.
>>530455920He would. It's fear sex. He just closes his eyes and thinks of Imperium
>>530456115Actually he writes marzipan fanfic in between playing chess
>>530456115Then why did he wanted fuck openly in Cumrag.
>>530456304He thought he was about to die. Humans are capable of great deeds when on the verge of death
What class should I make my RT for a first time playthrough? I don't know anything about this setting so I figured whatever the tactician/commander class is looked fitting but the psychic thing seems kind of interesting too
>>530454095How did they go from mindbreaking women into sex slaves and harem endings to.. that
>>530439018the glorious reflection who is meant to represent unaligned conviction wishes he could've learned more from theodora before her passing so i'd say that's what she was
>>530456704post dick for inspection so you get the right reply
>>530455502Then you just need to start the feast ajnd start the impostor hunt
>>530456704Officer fits well because the rogue trader is a noble which orders people around, it's also VERY strong once you understand how to use it
But you specifically are made one on the fly and under exceptional circumstances, so you can just be a frontline soldier too
Psyker is not a class, it's an origin that can be slapped on any class. It's very strong, on officer you could be a biomancer or diviner to buff your party, but you get both a biomancer and a diviner companion so there's that.
If you play a more damage oriented character you could do pyromancy, which no companion has.
>>530456763To what? Fucking the pope?
>>530457098I feel like Cassandra is better off doing what she knows and likes - being a Seeker. Vivienne can handle the pope thing
>>530457098Stronk wymin with a character otherwise as deep as a puddle and catering to femboys raised by three mothers and no father figure.
On one hand, jimmy shouldn't have "know no heresy"
On the other hand, my character with 120 INT has like 160 in every lore skill, so there is no real reason to not give it to him....
>>530458018in lore you just gave xavier's plant an unsanctioned lobotomy
Ok so the dlc is bugged for me
I watched a video and after the mutant attack on the feudal world I don't get the cutscene that's supposed to play
What the fuck do I do now
>>530456704I'd echo
>>530457062And say officer because it steps on the fewest toes related to gear your first time through. Your tutorial party has no officer and while you get an officer in act1 she's also a psyker so she's splitting her turns between psyker powers and officer abilities.
I wouldn't recommend being a psyker your first time though. You get 3 by the end of act1 and the gear competition is high. Ability synergies are also overwhelming enough for new players without throwing psyker synergies into the list.
I consider imperial world noble officer to be the canon rogue trader but it can be boring once you get accustomed to things because it's a pure face character.
Having a lot more fun with my current voidborn crimelord soldier.
>>530458430Reload until it maybe works, toybox, or wait six months
>>530457035>>530458430It's bugged. There's no one I can talk to in the city
>>530457736Cass is a huge dork and melts in your hand though.
>>530457736Lmao, she's so far from that it's not even funny.
>>530458018Yeah, but you're not always gonna be there to tell him the difference between an ork and necron, so leave the man alone
>>530458591restarting the game worked for some reason
Imagine DH gets a female Eldar romance for men without cuckoldry or humiliation...
Why does everyone disapprove of my relationship with jae?
>>530458430What would game devs of today do if it was like the 90's and it would not be so easy to patch their unfinished (if game is getting dlcs, updates and so on in my mind it's not finished) games...
>>530457736What does that have to do with Cassandra though?
>>530459124besides every event with her reading like some power play to establish her dominance over you?
>>530459120let's clarify
*female dark eldar
with purification option
>jimmy cant use purge soul on the heralds
machine spirits? CONFIRMED FALSE
>>530457736So what do you want? A weak woman companion in a RPG?
>>530459815Machines have machine spirits not sovl
>>530459158To be fair if we were still stuck with 56k modems games would still be tiny as well
Yrliet how about you SHUT THE FUCK UP?
We just learned your kin is bringing a whole ass craftworld in the expanse to wage a revenge war they are doomed to lose
Furthermore, the inquisitor just threatened you, and still you can't shut your dumb fucking xeno mouth
are the pathfinder (kingmaker/wotr) games potato friendly?
gotta get some games for the summer heat when my pc struggles
>>530458526>>530457062Alright officer it is then
Thanks anons
>>530459158They just move on and pretend everything is fine, like what they did before.
>>530460096PFKM should be fine, not too sure about WOTR.
>>530459429All women do that so there is nothing wrong there.
>>530459124Because Jae is
>An upstart void pirate who actively leeches off the empire though criminal activity >Clearly and shamelessly ingratiating herself to you for her own personal profit >Embroiled in multiple turf wars that she drags you into >Partakes in the cold trade which beyond being heresy also expands the reach of the dreaded Xeno >Looks, talks, acts and is a whore. Stinky pussy She's too lowbrow for Cassia, too irreverent for Argenta and Kibellah, too lawless for Abelard and Heinrex, too dumb for Pascal.
Idira is the only one who gets along with her at the start I think?
Funny enough, I remember Jae is actually one of the harshest critics of Eldar. They make nice weapons but she knows you can't trust them with shit
>>530460238Not on my ship they don't
>>530459929Call me unreasonable but I like my power fantasy straight instead of erping a power bottom.
>>530460481what's the context of this?
i haven't played
>>530460069I honestly don't know how anyone can romance Yriliet. She is INSUFFERABLE.
"You and I are as different as the starry sky and its reflection in a muddy puddle"
"Imagine being lusted over by a primitive beast"
This is why Orks are expanding, and Necronanare maintaining momentum. The Eldar race is the equivalent of a hot girl who peaked in high school and then started doing meth. Literally Metamorphosis the race
First time playing rogue trader, enjoying it and just got to chapter 2 on my palace planet but I think Iโm getting bored of my character. Iโm a pyromancer psyker but I feel like Iโm doing nothing but molten beam. I also feel that being a psyker rogue trader might be lore breaking considering how theyโre talked about in game. Anyway, long winded question but what is a more fun class/playstyle? I have both DLCs
>>530454343these kinds of games are dependent on how much you like the characters in them
i liked origins and da2 because i liked the characters in them
i did not like anyone in inquisition
>>530460796You'll spam up to three offensive abilities no matter what you play.
>>530460672You aren't understanding. In a GAME, why would want a party member/romance interest who has zero agency or ability to get anything done for herself? I can't even think of a single romance in a GAME where the girl has no power.
>>530460069>whole ass craftworld in the expanse to wage a revenge war they are doomed to lose>more eldar to slaughterExcellent
If you can't stand her why are you even using her?
>>530460796Don't reroll or you'll trap yourself in an infinite loop of rerolling.
>>530460719You get undressed in front of your entire retinue so that an administratum clerk can catalogue all the intricacies of your body I gave it to jimmy as a fap material
>>530461203i dunno, sometimes you just don't like a character you made
better to bail out earlier than not
>>530461103My character pities her
What starting class do i pick if i want to resolvemax with sanctic psyker and master tactician besides officer?
>>530460790Her being a female elf lust makes them ignore her racism and retardation.
>>530461441lolwut i was curious what would make abelard say that
thanks anon
If I attack eufrates 2 act 4 ends, right?
I am waiting for owlcat to unfuck solomorne's quest
>dogmatic choice for the ship is turning it into a giant work camp
based
>>530462209No.
You have to actually cross the gate to act 5.
There are personal quests that trigger after Euphrates
Why does jae's character modle look way hotter than her portrait?
>>530460481>Regicide with Humans as piecesAbelard confirmed as fake Iconoclast.
>>530460971Neither are you. Why would you need to have muh mandatory romance in the first place and why would forced controversy or guaranteed coomer or incel sales (and you know both of those are a thing) give them, the devs, a free pass from making it a GOOD or at least a better game.
And no I don't have a problem with romance being included, but if you do, give it the budget and the focus it deserves. Don't just cast a wide net with dozen shallow as fuck but intentionally diverse (both in character or otherwise) usually bisexual characters and have your game be a boring slog.
If it's a VN make the story good. If it's a hero with a big sword make the dragon scary and the sword fun to swing. And if you absolutely must include gameplay in the first make it better than tetris. If you must include romance in the second make sure your gameplay is solid and at least make it interesting and give us the option to fuck the dragon.
Now tell me how's that not fair.
>>530462975Because her portrait sucks
I changed it with toybox
>>530456868>Jae, please stop flirting with my glorious reflection...
>>530435507 (OP)>TyrannyDoes Brian Heins even realize he still owes me a sequel?
>>530463051The problem is, how do you write a satisfying romance in a game where the protagonist is, by necessity, a blank slate? You cannot have the kind of interactions you need to have to make a romance satisfying with that as a base, which is why romances in CRPGs have never evolved beyond their initial form in BG2. If you want actually decent romance content, play JRPGs, where the protagonist has an actual identity and therefore can have decent romances written for them.
why doesn't the ship rebel when you go heretic
>>530463509Can't do much when your IP is owned by someone else and there's probably 6 people waiting for it.
>>530463760Because it is not le sacred espiritu de la maquina
Does the owlcat Expanse game count as a crpg
>>530463995>rpg>played on the 'puterYeah I'd say so
I wish I was jobless and I could just play non stop
>>530463760uhh erm just turn your brain off lol
>>530464204That's a very solvable issue anon.
>>530463995Just barely. Combat sounds like roll-slop
>>530463724Why would he have to be a completely blank slate in the first place? It is a roleplaying game after all. Just make the story focused enough so you can guide your decisions and allow for wiggle enough so you actually get to grow in the role. What's wrong for example with how the original Witcher did it?
im just hoping the expanse game will let me enact total belter death
>>530461103I think her misery and seething are cute
>>530464715El professinale....
>>530464495>Why would he have to be a completely blank slateBecause creating your PC from whole cloth is one of the selling points of CRPGs. You either have to sacrifice that aspect if you want well written romance content, or keep things the way they are in which case all romance in CRPGs will always be bare bones, basic and simple stuff since you cannot effectively write a good/great romance where only one character has an actual personality and identity.
>>530461543Bladedancer. You can get 4-5 additional resolve per kill.
>3 different fleets can't take a planet
>Calcazar is forced to send me
I swear I am the only competent person in the whole fucking expanse
>>530465260>power fantasy game is a power fantasywoah...
>>530465048>you cannot effectively write a good/great romance where only one character has an actual personality and identity.Isn't that what most of these games following that same BG2 romance formula are doing? So why force it in the first place then?
The only two characters that must be good are the villain and the shopkeeper since you'll be seeing a lot of the later and if the former is a clown, and not the scary good clown either, what the point?
>>530464731Why? They dindu nuffin
>>530465260It's almost like Owlcat deliberately makes everyone around you a retard and incompetent so your PC can be even more super special than they already are, or something.
>>530465440>>530465353>spits on your shipCassia gonna freak!
>>530465382Because people want romance content. It really does sell games and as an additional bonus, it drives engagement and discussion about the game as well. Even this place discusses romance content and romanceable characters far more than any other subject. Yrliet is mentioned and discussed at least 10x as much as Pasqal is, despite Pasqal being the much, much better written character.
But since most CRPGs will also not deviate from the blank slate, player created protagonist, romance content will remain in its lackluster and barebones state. Basically CRPG developers have painted themselves into a corner on this over the years, they can't remove romance without losing sales and angering a portion of their playerbase, but they can't really make the content good either due to the constraints on how CRPG protagonists are written.
>>530460790Unironically her craftworld just happens to be especially retarded.
How to trigger solomorn quests after act 3? I've picked him up from the prison planet since I didnt take him with me to comoragh. I have not had any quests pop up ever since
>>530465813>eyour rogue trader looks mighty gay
>>530466292He started out as an hedonistic noble, so it was partially intentional
>>530466095It triggers when you can go to Eupfrates
>>530459120GW employes would gladly saw off their limbs just to deny young men their wishes. There will either be no romance or it eill have humiliation that will top Yrliet's
>>530466095You will get a call from dargonus
But some people (me) are experiencing a bug where you can do the quest but not his personal side of it, meaning I am waiting for the hotfix
>>530465991Sure they can. But this is easier. Why make three separate really good campaigns (and sell them as DLC if nothing else) that follow different (well) defined characters in good stories when you can make one generic mishmash and the biggest difference is picking that one line tagged for retard friendly [DOGMATIC] or [EVIL] every so often and few dozen lines from your "romantic interest" you won't see otherwise.
And no, I'm not shitting on RT in particular. I do actually like the game despite all its faults.
>people want romance contentYou telling me a good El Cid or Ivanhoe game wouldn't be well received? Come on. Forced controversy sells the games more then good (romance) content. BG3 could've beat Shakespeare and Byron put together but people would still talk about getting cucked by a bear. You don't like it? What, you a chud homophobe misogynist? No, I just want a good goddamn game.
>replayabilityYeah, that's why there's one-two builds on one-two characters repeated since launch. The only new build that came since then is when they introduced kibbles and only because it's batshit powercrept.
Swan song, I know.
>>530467885>but not his personal side of it,Shit, I finished the dlc but I don't think I did his quest. I thought going to the planet and then palace of justice WAS his quest
>>530468139I don't know how it works, but there is a sub objective BEFORE you go to the planet that reads "I should talk to Solomorne, he seems distressed", the issue is that he has no new dialogue, and going to the planet fails this objective
I have NO IDEA if he has actual content that comes from that or if its just a conversation, I am waiting for the fix so I can confirm.
>>530468110I mean ultimately you're arguing that having a defined protagonist is much better for a games writing, and I don't disagree, I just don't see CRPG devs having the balls to do it.
>>530468296I see, well, I'm not gonna replay the entiree game again just for this. Will wait a couple of months for the big update they promised and then anothe couple of months for them to fix all the bugs that come with the new update. His ending seemed fine to me
>fighting 6 Deldar ships
I understand why people hate ship battles on Unfair, holy shit this is cancer
Camellia is my favorite waifu. I even like that she refuses to stay with you in the vanilla ending
>After the war has ended the KC is enjoying a lustful debauched evening with Camellia
>The blood of some serfs on her hands as she rides you with debased fervor
>As you reach your climax together, you feel a sharp pain in your heart
>You open your eyes as pain overrides pleasure to see a dagger sticking out of you
>Camellia, crazed with pleasure maintains eye contact with you as she twists the dagger
>Your look of betrayal, pain and yet understanding as she rides out THE orgasm of her life
>As your vision fades she savors the feel of your lower half still warm inside her
>Slowly, her breathing evens out
>In a frantic panic she rushes off you and runs to your study
>No servants to call for, they are either dead or gone
>She frantically grabs a scroll of resurrection, afraid to revive you but even more afraid to lose you to Pharasma
>As she whispers the divine magic to drag you back from the fold she sees her hands stain red with the blood of the man she loves most
>So long as she holds you dearest in her heart, so to will her desire to maim you persist
>You awake to a bloodied bed
>And a missing Camelia
>>530469478You can use shield overload to remove cloacking and then just ram them in the ass
>>530469819>Camellia is my favorite waifu. I even [am a cuck]Yeah, we figured as much.
>>530468406Yeah, I'm just tired of this current trend and that same bioware formula they even diluted since. You're saying people are talking about muh romance and waifus and shit because they're good? Brother, what else is there to talk about that hasn't been said 40.000 times already? Even the shitposting and the bait for that has been regurgitated to nauseum already. You ask would you like a weak female companion instead. Well, I don't give a flying fuck whether they're male, female or an attack chopper but if you must include them at least make them somewhat reactive and with a character that can't be described by their skin, gender, hairstyle or two words. But yeah, just make dozen of them in slightly different flavors instead and you'll tickle someone's autism enough so he defends your shallow ass game to death for free.
What's really depressing is that there are unironically people that eat it up and don't know it could be so much better.
Whenever the RT spins in his throne or takes a private conversation in his office I like to imagine that Kibellah is somewhere in the shadows, or even just propped up on his lap, silently intimidating anyone who speaks to him
The Conquest part in Tyranny seems cool, but does it really change the world state much?
>>530470234She watches me have sex, because she's a pathetic cuck that will never get any
>>530470234I think they're just looking at your throne
I took maive back to my ship, where is she
>>530470234I love my spinning comically loud and comically big throne so much lads
>>530470565>Hour 1 in Commoragh
>>530470265I haven't gotten past the 1 hour mark in Tyranny so I wouldn't know. I'm not sure why but I'm incapable of playing RTWP anymore
>>530471156IT'S RTWP????? Dropped is there a turn based mod?
>>530471009>hour 100>you're the new chair
>>530470220I'm saying people talk about romances and waifus because they are a central focus of the game for them. If people cared more about combat and character building in CRPGs rather than self insert protagonists who get their dick sucked by their companions and imaginary love interests, we'd still be playing Wizardry games. It's just the reality of how the genre evolved.
>>530469819She's certainly the best written romance option in an rpg ever
>>530464407Isnt it just a mass effect clone but with better source material
Guess the game doesn't really expect you to fight here. Too bad I'm an Arch Militant chad.
>>530472184Dunno, they've cited so many game as inspiration (dark souls included, because of course it is) that it feels like the game has no identity and that they have no idea what they're fucking doing and what they want it to be outside of NEW MASS EFFECT YOU GAIZ.
>>530472184Mass Effect didn't have any source material and still ended up one of the greatest games of all time
I can't believe this cutscene is unvoiced
Why even have a cutscene when you don't have voice acting, owlkek you hacks
>>530472184>Better source materialCitation needed, this setting sounds like absolute garbage from what I've read about it. Apparently the author fucked up massively after the first 2-3 books or something.
>>530473051Truly. a legion of poets
>>530472184What but from what I read Expanse has no aliens and humans only explored our solar system. It seems more realistic sci-fi.
>>530473051It's to show how much they absolutely threw the chaos plot to the gutter at that point.
>>530473860based. I shot him in his stupid face in the finale. iconoclast btw
How come my retinue is able to beat a chaos space marine squad that outnumbers us?
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>scene 5000 better if you ignore the character it's made for
>>530474661because people like sly marbo exist
>>530474684Yeah the entire game is improved if you just treat Yrliet as a non recruitable NPC and either kill her or never recruit her.
>>530474684yrliet did nothing wrong
>18yo gf on the bed watching anime
>beercan in my hand half empty
>rogue trader launched
>heretical playthrough going well
this is the life, love being a zoomer boomer simple as
>>530474684wait, how do you get that
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>>530475016>>530475136Mind you I just tried to blow her head off, first words out of my mouth were a whole pack of beasts, hunting will be good and I can turn her against her people with a low DC persuasion check. Who the fuck wrote this?
>>530475053The glue sniffing intern that wrote this did.
>>530474661Only character with low power level in your retinue is Argenta, everyone else is better than CSM
>>530475431>Schizo enough to have visions of a rare artifact from a Living Saint that is actually realSomething something Emperor's hand guides her actually something something
>>530475431>everyone else is better than CSMidira imploding and fragging everyone in a 3 mile radius with the matyrdom perk while summoning 20+ demons doesn't count
>>530475397Yeah the writing for Yrliet is 100% garbage through and through. There's never a point it gets better. Her personal quest is the worst written companion quest in the game. Her interactions with the rest of the party are the worst written banters in the game. Her dialogue chains about both herself and Eldar in general are the worst written and least informative dialogue chains in the game. FFS you learn more about CW Eldar from talking to Marazhai than you do talking to her. I cannot fathom the faggots that actually defend this character, she is the worst thing Owlcat ever made.
>>530444260You get icono points for acting like Caiphas Cain would
>Wait a minute these aren't real xenos! What's the big idea?>+5 iconoclast >I don't want you killing my crew for your medical trials, you can only do it if you avoid deaths >+5 iconoclast
>>530475431>SoB>low power levelYeah, no.
>>530443787>Loyal to anyone but the EmperorBypassing the chain of command? That's anything but dogmatic
jae would get completely floored by a CSM.
>>530476307Every dogmafag thinks they are the arbiter of the emperor's will. chorda is a dogma autist and eats brains for godsake.
>>530475970>FFS you learn more about CW Eldar from talking to Marazhai than you do talking to herYou seem fixated that "well written character = you learn about their faction"
That is completely irrelevant in fact
Do you learn about the organisation of the sisters of battle from talking to Argenta? Not really. Do you learn about how the inquisition is run by talking to Jimmy? Not at all
>>530474661Chaos marines are jobbers and Aurora is a girly name
>>530475970What's insane I intentionally ran up to her on the first meeting and went ATTACK. She pulls a smoke grenade and bugs out. Then I see her, call them all beasts, mouran talks some shit, I talk some shit back and I get that screen up. At no point did I say anything remotely friendly or picked any option other than to attack her when given and I'm still given TWO options to recruit her and make her attack other knife ears.
How does that work?
>>530476504Yrliet isn't well written with or without faction lore taken into account.
>>530476664I'm still confused why he calls himself Aurora. I was full on expecting some woman but no, it's a fucking Chaos Marine
I'm so horny at work anons. Constantly daydreaming about Calcazar plopping me repeatedly..send help I have 5 more hours here.
>>530476698Just her writer trying to force her into your retinue so she can do her super cool and unexpected betrayal later. Retarded beyond belief.
>>530475431Abelard too, he's just an old man
Beating Aurora's ass is just item #56 on the seneschal's list of jobs today. He really needs a holiday.
>>530476894Clearly but like take a hint and let me attack them already.
>>530476742OR any goddamn common sense.
>>530477198>Doomed world>Spend a day mashing potions>Become god>Punch some masked faggot into nothingness>Hammer some heart
>>530476894The betrayal was boringly obvious too because eldars always do that
The real twist would be for her to remain loyal and it's always wormtongue who is responsible
>>530473071It mostly depends on what you like.
The setting tries to be more grounded without humanity inventing FTL, but it has its own problem with the engines being impossibly efficient.
>Areelu goes to touch grass before final showdown
>Rezzes Khorrazamdesh or what's-his-name
>Storyteller just Weirds him out in single turn
KWAB
>>530477369Doomed. World.
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>>530477369>only all directly hostile options picked>she's still not on their sideAt least you get to kill the skooma sniffing topless fucker without confirming a gorillion separate times.
>>530477543It turns into Stargate lite in 3 books
Do the data sticks in Eufrates do anything?
>>530473998It is more realistic sci fi
And the setting is better written and more interesting than mass effect's despite that
>>530477972Yeah, I think I would've preferred it without the protomolecule doing that, but I didn't hate it.
>>530476756>m still confused why he calls himself Aurora. I was full on expecting some woman but no, it's a fucking Chaos Marinethats the point. you thought you killed aurora when really you just killed a body double
>>530476756They're all aurora. You also get to be the aurora.tzeentch is very creative
Does Pasqal have anything interesting in eufrates? I have the remote party commentary enabled, but still some options are not there if you don't actually bring the companion
To beat this lad without destroying the plasma generators for the achievement (I saw someone getting it here and wanted it) Cassia would be more beneficial than pasqal to the strategy.
>>530479579Yeah definitely, that's an important planet for him
>>530477543The epstein drive is a handwave required for the setting to work and be interesting without impossibly long transit times. The problem is the protomolecule which while it makes an interesting plot at first it devolves the story into typical space magic after the first story arc. So the expanse is pretty good until that point.
>>530480054Then I will remove Yrliet and hope her armor pen is unnecessary
If Nexusmods is still alive in a year, they really need to crack down and ensure people posting shitty AI mods are using AI tags.
Season pass gets you both DLC? Are they standalone like the DLCs in Kingmaker/Wrath or tie in to the main story?
>>530480873>Season pass gets you both DLC?Yes
>standalone or tie in to the main storyCompletely tied in
>>530480873They are like Ulbrig's Last Sarkorian
>>530480873So does torrenting
>>530480474>Still aliveWhat makes you think they're going anywhere?
>proper AI tagsNot happening, and I'm almost sure that's deliberate considering how uppity and defensive AIfags get.
Why does argenta act like such a impulsive nigger? Even Jimmy keeps telling her to calm down.
>>530482894Plasma. Melta's kinda a meme.
>>530435798I don't really like his mask, seems shady
>>530482865Her religious zeal (retardation)
>>530482865thats what SoBs do
>>530483295Sounds like a sob story
>>530483229His unique class gives direct bonuses to plasma.
>>530482865Doesn't have a job anymore after being stuck in the warp for 50 years so is over-eager to prove herself
Plus, pic related
>>530483382Isn't there a Sister of Battle order whose job is to get everyone to marry and have children? Can't remember the name now
>>530483538I think most of our retinue have low intelligence
>>530483693Hospitalier? Or are you confusing an infamous fanfic one?
Nice try incongrous defiler, however I had the "I win button" ready in an advantageous position after lowering your armor enough
Actually not a bad fight
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I shouldn't have brought him with me.
>>530483963I was thinking of these
>Sisters Famulous>The sisters of the Orders Famulous serve amongst the household of the highest of the Imperiumโs nobility, acting as chamberlains, counselors and consuls. >They broker inter-house alliances, trade deals, and marriages, and their hand is ever at work amongst the highest echelons of power. >Through their arranging of alliances and marriages, they take a direct hand in the fate of humanity
>>530484078That's probably the last fight with unique "mechanics" btw. Next stop is just summon spam.
>>530484131It's not too bad. In his old age the daydreams come back to him from time to time but I don't see much harm in it.
>>530484321X-Com is a crpg
>>530484315he's been permanently scarred to the point he'll be daydreaming about her long gone wife for the rest of his life. Most of the others only get physical torture, but Abelard got it worse than that.
>>530484131He will be fine
>>530485229That happens to most people when they get old
They don't even find it unpleasant
It'll happen to you
>>530484131I TOLD YOU
I TOLD YOU ABOUT BRINGING ABELARD BRO
I TOLD YOU BRO
Imagine unironicly being outdone by tulpa you made of yourself
>>530485606>Spare crusaders>They instantly go talking shit about youAt least I mindbroke Irabeth + Anevia so they didn't join that affair
>>530485482>They don't even find it unpleasantpic related
>>530485520aieeeeeeeeeeee
>>530485813>Ulbrig keks me with fucking Seelah of all peopleI got keked out of full lich benefits to keep you, you griffin bastard
Genuinely surprised how much Seelah shows up in lich epilogue slides considering she fucked off an act ago.
>>530486118But does he turn into a bear when he does it?
After I get the data keys in the cogitators in kiava gamma I should still not break them right? So I can use another key on them?
>>530484131did you bring idira and argenta for the frenship arc? and also because idira is the only one that reacts to argenta's reveal. abelard's over theodora at that point and just sighs lol
How can you niggers replay the same two owlslop games over and over like this?
>>530487698>kiava gammaMeant eufrates
>>530487715Idira x Argenta toxic manipulation yuri.
>>530487715i did on my previous playthrough, i'm currently on a dogtard run so i blew the witch's head off first chance i got and already saw argenta's so i didn't bring her along
>abelard's over theodora at that point and just sighs lolargenta really just feels halfbaked doesn't she
This is a dogmachud thread. Heretesticals keep walking.
Iconotards can stay as long as they at least destroy the genestealer cult at the end of Void Shadows and nuke Rykad Minoris.
>>530439018spoilers....both for the base game and the new Lex dlc so don't read if you haven't played both
Theodora was a heretic. The Lex Imperialis dlc reveals that she had an elaborate plan to steal the entire tithe from the entire koronus expanse. She was also in possession of the same glass that the heretics in the rykad system were using to conduct their rituals, and for some reason she was interacting with it during the incursion on her ship, which implies she was doing something with it during a crisis. Additionally, she was instrumental in the plot to commandeer necron technology, and she murdered hundreds of her own loyal crew to keep it a secret. She is very much a heretic for multiple reasons.
>>530439789when she "discovered" idira she made sure she could keep her as a pet unsanctioned telepath and not send her to get sanctioned, and according to idira she encouraged/enabled idira to be careless with her psyker stuff. iirc that dude in the final dungeon that reveals how she mind wiped the crew says something to the effect that idira got more chatty with the voices under theodora's command and wasn't always this bad when she first joined theodora's retinue
>>530487887Who's manipulating who
>>530439018she's profit factor aligned. she thought she could dabble in chaos shit and rip off all parties involved in the whole clusterfuck that is the deldar/chaoscult/necron/Inquisitor stuff going on
>>530487953>nuke Rykad Minoris.I'm an iconotwink and I nuked it
Initially wasn't going to but Heinrix made the case pretty convincingly using Facts and Logic
Haven't gotten to the genestealers yet but I'll consider their case on its merits
Did Owlcat ever give buffs to the Noble origin or is it still comically weak at support compared to any psyker school?
>>530439789>>530488363It's also implied a bit with the "ghost" Theodora is bothering Idira in the macrocannon bay
>I had such plans for you, my little Idira!
>did you step in dogshit
>worse
>eldar
>>530488675I didn't nuke it on a first run and the stuff you get isn't really worth it, you can get a thing that makes 1 exploration event easier and save some people, but the planet becomes a permanent daemon planet. if you know anything about genestealer cults you know that there can't be any mercy for them, because they'll end up perpetuating the cycle and create more cultists/genestealers.
>>530489165>worse>aisloppa
>>530489198i demand a sex slave magus at the very least
>>530442667Dogmatic is opposing chaos and other enemies of humanity by clinging tightly to the imperial creed.
Iconoclast is opposing chaos and other enemies of humanity by rallying your peers and instilling a belief in the human spirit.
Heretical is betraying humanity by embracing chaos.
Iconoclast does not have to be anti-religion, you can still love the Emperor, you just don't adhere to the creed and the law, and you find it distasteful how the Imperium treats it's own citizens. You would rather inspire people and encourage them. It sounds nice on the surface, but the problem with Iconcoclasticism is that chaos thrives when its enemies are lenient. If you are tolerant, chaos laughs at you and takes advantage of your tolerance. So it's being nice now at the expense of long term efforts against the true, real enemy, which is chaos.
Everyone wants to be Iconoclastic because it's human nature to try to help your peers, but 40k as a setting has an enemy faction that thrives when you're nice, so dogmatism is necessary.
>>530489713On the other hand, chaos also thrives when you are overly severe, perfectionist, and bloodthirsty.
>>530489713>we NEED to be uber grim dark and feed the peasants mold because we just have to Okay!?
>>530489364Could be but he has some neat stuff in his collection
>>530489075Psyker is still overtuned compared to everything else because it's psyker. The question is more why do you need a fourth psyker in your party when the game is already piss easy?
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this was cute
>psyker is the best origin
Lol crime lord moggs
>>530490341It does make a more interesting story.
>>530489713Half the iconoclast options are just "send coffee and food to the workers"
I'm closing act 2 at level 34 (lmao) in a heretical run (with 2 blade pieces). At which point do I forge the heretic blade? How/where do I sacrifice yrliet?
>>530490331Tech Priests doing power of friendship speech is the best
>>530490331Gelato is beginning to irritate me
Crime lord soldier breaks the game.
>>530490679Gelato. Can't a man love his cyberdog.
Iconoclast has cool stuff like using the power of VVILL to tell uralon to fuck off with his warp skype call, and pick yourself back up in cumrag because your friends and dynasty are counting on you
>>530490247I want origins to feel like they mean something. There's no reason why ALL the origins shouldn't be as expansive and build changing as playing a Pysker is.
>>530491409A rogue trader only deserves the most exotic of pets.
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>>530491409DON'T USE DON'T USE
>>530491409Eldar women owe me sex
>>530491409She's challenging, she doesn't want to like you but you win her over just by being yourself
Unlike the other girls who are falling over themselves to pursue you, yes even Cassia
>>530491353Origins are just background. If anything psyker is the outlier because it ads disproportionately more than any other, and everyone agrees that if a change were to be made it's moving psyker into an archetype.
>>530492349>you win her over just by being yourselflol
lmao
The "I win" button never fail
My officer's turn hasn't even ended and Kibellah killed the boss and 3 chaos marines, now for the second phase.
>>530491353>>530492436Psykers are just in an entirely different dimension than any other because they're fucking psykers: they're walking gods among men.
>>530492510Yes I know
But she starts out like
>Ugh, if I must then later she's like
>elantach you seem stressed, let me help you relax and
>you are MINE, stay away from that fish woman and later still
>nooo don't hurt him *throws herself on you*So you might find it silly but that's why some people like her, it's a classic tsundere progression
>>530492436>moving psyker into an archetype.This will be the case for DH apparently
Is there any actual time limit in act two or can my rouge trader just explore the entire map?
Urlaron bros... I don't know if what's going to happen is according to plan....
>>530494910I ran out of dealths from above after killing the boss and 5 enemies... seems like I will have to end my officer's turn...
fuck off with your cringe already
>>530495225But anon.... this is the designated cringing thread
>>530495542Ignore him
Non-image-posters don't get a vote
I'm so excited to finish this playthrough and start another. That's how you know a game is truly good. I think I'm going to be a sanctic psyker with officer into servoskull overseer, wielding a staff and buffing my allies.
I also have a coop save with one of my friends and it's fun but it's going at a snail's pace. We're still in chapter 1 after 3 weeks lol.
>leave eufrates
>situation obviously critical
>speak with jimmy
>no dialogue
>speak with pasqal
>no dialogue
Yeah I can see why people say act 4 is unfinished.
Just finished crimson tide of tehtyr, a popular neverwinter campaign made by the guy who made the tyrants of the moonsea and doom of icewind dale premium modules.
There's a huge army of orcs and goblins heading towards Tethyr and you sign up as a merc to join the campaign and defend the country. It does a pretty good job of making you feel a part of a bigger conflict. Its cool seeing the huge groups of soldiers gathered at camp or marching alongside you.
The writing is decent though pretty predictable wow the guy with the evil looking portrait and black armor is a traitor, what a surprise.
There's some nods to bg2 which is kind of cool, a lot of the campaign is your army defending Suldanessellar as its caught in between the two armies. It doesn't feel too nostalgia baity though, there's callbacks but its still its own story.
Gameplay was a bit too easy They throw too much op gear at you imo and the enemies don't really keep up other than a couple boss fights near the end. Anything with some fighter levels will prob have an easy time.
Overall it was a fun ride though nothing super amazing. It was worth the 15 or so hours it took to finish.
Speaking of NWN I remember hearing about a NWN2 remake. Was that a fever dream or is it real? I see nothing on steam about it.
I liked that game as a kid but when I tried it recently the controls and interface felt dated. But remakes sometimes update stuff like that.
>>530498463>sanctic psyker with officer into servoskull overseeryou'd be better off going raven. the servo skull will only extrapolate officer abilities, of which voice of command and air of authority are the only, truly useful abilities to extrapolate and those don't really need to be on the whole team at once. the raven relays psyker powers to the team and will relay offensive psyker powers to enemies with overcharge.
in both cases, santic is probably the worst pick for psyker disciplines. its what i've been doing lately and the servo skull swarm is entirely fucking pointless in combat. even with overseer-specific abilities, the swarm does fuck all
>>530499869Its coming out soon but it looks pretty shit. From what little they showed in the trailers its a minor graphical update and thats it.
Also its made by aspyr so thats already a red flag.
Da whispas tol' me a secret ;D
im on the dlc planet
what the fuck is this shit
>>530500956A feudal world
So is Solomorne a good companion
why is her character model so hot but her portrait is so ugly?
prime I play a role, composite I go to sleep
>>530501857Time to play some roles anon
>>530501536Her model looks like a boy, that's probably why you find it hot
Argenta's quest lacks meaning
>I'm looking for the One Star
>I found it! It was a set of armor
and that's it
No real subtext
I literally reached salis prime 60 seconds ago, I open the general just to get immediately spoiled on what the relic is.
>>530502743I'm sorry anon! I deleted my post, maybe that will help you forget.
>>530501857857 is a prime, you have to play the role
>>530501521I don't know I was replaying rt and then got sidetracked playing Genealogy of the holy war and thracia for the first time.
>>530501536Is this just really dedicated bait or do you genuinely believe this
Should I go to euphrates 4 first before talking with calcazar?
>>530504237They will tell you to fuck off
I assume this is the start of Argenta's romance. Didn't get an achievement for starting it though. Maybe because Cassia's already started.
>>530504494argenta doesn't have a romance
>>530504494You're almost there bro
>>530493412That can't be Yrliet
Her tits are too round and her mood is too cheerful
Must be some other outcast
Does she actually offer anything?
Does Cassia work as an overseer? I want to get her a cyberbird as a pet
>>530505054She can brew you recaf
She's not lying, that's what she does
She also pours you amasec
They give you a small buff
>>530505283I gave her one, it's not like it matters, you should always go all in on navigator powers on her
>>530505430I'll do it, GS is boring frankly and overseer is new and interesting
>>530502064>>530503273Truth by consensus, I guess I better play a role
did you get rid of the stone, like an idiot?
>several superhumans who are also dogmachuds are standing around in a circle waiting patiently for a chaos ritual to complete
Ah, the old cutscene magic.
I dont know why people shit on ai so much
It is a blessing for making portraits
Give me exactly 1 (one) reason why Marazhai wouldn't have been better as a girl
You can't
Do asians exist in 40k? Or some east asian equivalent?
>>530510881I shit on it because I'm a stickler for correct nomenclature
>>530474661By the time you're fighting heretic astartes, the amount of bullshit gear you have makes you several times more overpowered than them
Including the fact that you're named, too
>>530511239As a girl he'd be edgier Wenduag basically and yes he would be much better
Yrliet would be better as a man
>>530511361I think all the races are there but you rarely see them
The bartender girl on footfall appears to be Asian
>>530512269Honestly I disagree
All Eldar are always better as women because you can overlook their incessant insufferability that way
>>530511239So elfcels like yourself can never get elf pussy
I actually made it to act 4 in wrath
>>530513775Congrats it sucks
How many people actually can play WOTR on the two hardest difficulties at all? NEETs that play it like itโs their job for a year? Itโs borderline impossible on normal, 100% impossible for someone going in blind without looking anything up or knowing pathfinder.
>>530512501Come to think of it they usually are women aren't they
In the Dawn of War games it's always some lady farseer and a space marine
>>530514607farseer are always wisened middled aged men
>>530513886No it doesn't you cuck
Orkpussy chads we can't stop winning
>>530514606Hard is fine if you know anything about 3.5e. It's literally a difficulty that warns you not to play it if you don't know the system.
>>530514708>Taldeer>Macha>Caerys>IdranelI've never seen a male farseer until RT
DARK HERESY RELEASE THIS YEAR OR I WILL ACTUALLY COMMIT SUDOKU
>>530515631The one from DoW 2 was hot. I like her cunty millenial hair
fuck, it's still all RT slop
anything non-RT in the thread? I can't skim past another hundreds of "IM DOGMA" shit
Tough choice, but the damage bonus on the two single swords is 28% each so I think those are slightly better for that reason.
Her STR bonus is 7 though so the STR bonus to two handed isn't too shabby. And it's not difficult to have the two hander negate all armor since we have lots of armor shreds in the party....
hmm....
This game has more fun itemization than a lot of games I've played.
>>530516527Wait the level cap is 55?
I thought it was 50
>>530516308>hundreds of "IM DOGMA" shitDon't exaggerate. Only half of the posts are like that. The rest are talking about Yrliet
>>530516308>come to the crpg thread>people are talking about the latest release>they should be talking about something else>decide to post about how you don't like rogue trader instead of actually contributing and posting something else>wtf people are talking about rogue trader
>>530476698>How does that work?The power of bad writing
>>530482865What do you mean by "if"? He only has 2 ranks of dogma, while she has 3. And he's an Iceman, not Hotheadman
If im don't have anything that can stop healing how am I supposed to beat the vampire boss in solasta?
>>530487715I still don't know how to maker that happen. Played the game almost a dozen times and nothing. Yes I bring them with me for the quests
>>530517353Just bring them both with you to Cumrag and go with the obvious dialogue choices
>>530490679>anon jelly Psaqal likes the dog more than him
>>530491561Eldar are the least exotic pet you can find
>>530514606I struggled with Kingmaker on Normal a long time back, though after most of the game-breaking bugs were fixed. It was my first exposure to Pathfinder, and at times I thought Normal was crazy hard, and did some custom settings.
Never actually finished Kingmaker now that I think about it, but I have fond memories of the story I did see.
Anyhow, started WotR on Core and it was a struggle at times but knowing the system helps a ton. Things like "Restoration sounds ok" vs "Restoration is pretty important".
I'm kind of steamrolling on Hard in my 3rd playthrough, but really 99% of that is understanding the mechanics: what's important what's not, is this 'stun' worth trying for on this enemy, what defense of this enemy should I try to target
I don't really have an interest in Unfair but I might try it if I ever do another playthrough (azata or aeon most likely, maybe legend). I think "Normal" is correct for new players and "Core" is good for when you 'get' the mechanics pretty well but also want to just do whatever's cool, and still be challenged.
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>>530499415>meanwhile the game
Caligos Winterscale's eldar side girl is a farseer, not an outcast, and she lets him hold hands whenever he wants
>>530517439This doesn't work
It would be interesting if an honest poll were possible, about other crpgs Rogue Tourists have played and enjoyed, vs just being 40k retards.
>>530517793Calligos Winterscale has a harem on his ship where he can fuck all the pussy he wants. He doesn't want to. He just wants to kill xenos
>>530517793CHADligos is something every von Valcucksius Lord Captain wants to be but can't.
>>530517849Rogue Tard here
My other favourite crpggs are
>Planescape>Fallout 1 and 2>BG1 and 2>Arcanum
FOR THA EMPRAAAAAAAR XDDDD
*holds up melter*
grimdark af dude, like damn that warp?
Now that the dust has settled, what do you guys think: Heretic vs Dogma
le fish wife-oo
>>530517793I think he grabs them by the pussy
>>530517849It's a total impossibility that people in the crpg general could be playing multiple crpgs
>>530517840What else do you need to do
"Valancius" does not sound germanic enough to be prefixed with "Von"
>>530517849I've started Tyranny yesterday. Only did character creation, but the game looks cool. Unfortunately it's rtwlop, so I'll see how it goes
>>530518173... I've already told you that I have no idea since I've never been able to achieve that outcome, anon
>>530518028shoot I forgot the computer spirits thing
Nobody asked how she got here two days later.
Although we don't need to, since the answer is just the emperor put her where she needed to be.
>>530518221It's 40k. All humans are mutts
>>530518338She probably called Vigdis on the combead, and she send the shuttle after her. This is one of those things that desn't need to be spoonfed
>>530518250I've never had an issue with it. However I think Argenta has to be on the relatively sane path where she ends up leading an order herself.
In that ending she holds up Idira as an example of someone saved through newfound faith
You can't have her a bloodthirsty purger of heretics or a sister repentia
So Idira has to have a good ending too where she quits drinking after the whole "summoning a ghost" fiasco
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>>530515631Anon, your Eldrad?
>>530518510DId both of them too. Still not enough
>>530518338It's not Argenta. It's a warp clone
>>530518572I love this art. Eldrad looks human. And extemely tired. Like he has a disagreeable wife to go home to after a day in the office.
Also look like Hugo Weaving Elrond. Probably intentional
>>530518572Not in any games as far as I know.
I was talking about video game farseers, it's always a girl so as to create the desired attitude from the player: annoyed with their ambiguity and willfulness but prepared to tolerate them
>>530518338So powerful! What a speech, I'm ... I'm just on the floor, praying to The Emperor
Amazing, I seriously need this framed.
>>530518572What's he up to these days? Do him and Emperor keep in touch?
Really, you all could probably keep a /rtg/ alive.
Despite the single response, I'm still pretty certain a large number of posters don't care at all about CRPGs and are more into 40k. Which, great.
Come up with an OP, I really think you'll have enough to talk about to keep a general alive.
>>530518942We already have a general, anon
>>530519095>I'm cancer and I like being cancerReally, you should consider /rtg/. Might get more people too who could be searching for 'rogue trader' and be happy to see a dedicated general.
You could specify the OP to be news specifically about RT and assorted 40k stuff.
Seems like a win to me?
>>530519252Could work! Why don't you try starting one?
>>530518942It's amazing that you continue to not actually talk about any crpgs while bitching about people not talking about crpgs.
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>Pozzfinder tranny pretending he cares about any crpgs other than pozzfinder
>>530519303Help me draft an OP, I'm happy to.
Give an example template. Anything upcoming, previously released, any links that are especially relevant (wiki, trailer, etc)
Jae is the best romance option because she gives sex whenever you want.
>>530519425>Edition>News/Upcoming>DLC>Other 40k>Other resourcessomething like this would work
>>530519772if anyone has something especially for Other 40k, or Resources that would be helpful
I have only romanced jae, do the other romance options let you fuck them whenever you want?
>>530520396I believe its like that since Pathfinder Wotr.
>>530520396Yes, even Cassia.
>>530520756Iโm so used to stupid โone romance onlyโ in RPGs that I was confused when the first one I fucked continued flirting and wasnโt mad after I fucked someone else
Iโm the chosen one, I should be allowed to have a harem
>>530522435They'll only put up with it to a point
Eventually each of your side pieces has a showdown with you and demands to be promoted to main girl
You literally get to fix idira, she should have been romanceable.
>>530522896She's too vulnerable. The power dynamic would be off
>>530523134Didn't stop them from making kibbles, she actually just worships you.
>>530523942Kibbles is surprisingly hard to get close to. She'll let you fuck her but becomes evasive when you try to get in her head
aren't we one of the og lines that got their warrant signed by the emperor how are we only the twentieth? shouldnt we be on von valancius number 100.
>>530524378Some VovValancious probably sat with the warrant and a halo device somewhere for 2000 years
>>530524378Yeah must be a mistake. Could try to rationalise it that a cadet line took over at some point, if one rogue trader died without heirs. You know how say the Tudor line died out so they were succeeded by the Stuarts with whom they shared an ancestor. So maybe you're the 20th of the current line of Valancius
>>530524378Assuming it's 19 RTs X each living for 300 years = 5700 years of rule. Not enough, even assuming each managed to live for so long
Another reason Yrliet romance sucks ass:
When she invites you in her spirit world at the end of act 4 as you head to the dimensional gate, it loads the scene after you stop the ritual (since her spirit world is technically in Quetza temer'.)
So you enter the planet in a state where the elder stand there, Calligos is dead/crippled or whatever and you cannot leave
The universe punishes you in every way
>>530526210>since her spirit world is technically in Quetza temerNo it's not
Yes it looks like it because they cheaped out
But it's meant to be her mind garden which just happens to look like blue Quetza Temer/Janus
>>530526931I know it's not. I meant it's an instance in Quetza temer, hence the bug
>>530526210What is it about Yrliet that actually mindbroke people like this?
>>530527019Oh sorry now I'm with you
>Pasqal will remember that
I sat for a long time not knowing what to choose, but then I remembered I'm a dogmachud and suddenly everything was clear, and I'm pretty sure it's actually the correct choice.
What a fun storyline.
>>530527779I chose the opposite and I wasn't particularly happy with the outcome. I think you chose right.
Nooooo this sequence was fun as fuck, why was it so short? I'd love to control different teams with different units more often. Kotor 2 had this often and I loved it.
In fact games should encourage making mercs and different teams and not dissuade from it. I should be able to make my custom squads and send them on missions. Dark Heresy could work like this, with you making your own Acolytes and sending them on missions Xcom style.
Both Pathfinder games should encourage build autism and team building too. Being in charge of Mercenary group in them with strategy mechanics fitting mercenaries would be great instead of large scale kingdom/crusade management which does not fit skirmish games like crpgs
There's only one space elf I need
It almost happened. I was just 4 digits off from failing a 99%.
99 is not 100. Important to remember.
>>530529124>99 is not 100But 99.9999999..... is
How do I debuff psyker?
Telepath is a given for blind and rupture but everything else looks lackluster.
Enfeeble damage boost is just drop in the bucket unless I'm missing something
>>530529553Unironically don't bother. Why debuff when you can kill?
I dont think I can play through act 1 again for the lex imperialis dlc bros
>>530530370Walk bravely first into darkness bro
>>530529781I'm respeccing idira and I don't esnt yet another character mowing down hordes. She's getting the AoE stun though
>>530530608I did my first playthrough when the game launched and forgot all about it by the time the 2nd dlc launched and my gigantic brain decided its time for an another playthrough. Skill issue
>>530530608Act 1 goes fast once you know what you're getting into. Even footfall goes fast
>>530530741Don't get me wrong, she can get some decent debuffs from talents but imho I don't think it's worth bothering for 99.9% of the game. Instead of those couple of aliments you could make her more competent with firearms or indeed much better at both support and attack at the same time.
>>530530608I always like Owlcat's smaller scale act 1's.
>Sargona has a dark eldar gf
>>530531729>pyro pirate in a shitty frigateIt's almost like they made them a commentary on the RT
>>530531729Do you think they hold hands or nah?
>>530529394In the 1994 X-Com you can, under the right conditions, have more than 100% chance to hit and still miss.
Finally here. Mundus Valancius.
>>530533024Yeah, if there's something in between you and them since the shot path is simulated. What you're saying is closer to nucom.
>>530533383I wonder if the name is just a coincidence
>dawn of war 2
>battlefleet gothic armada
>space marine 1 and 2
>rogue trader
let me guess, you need more? Im eating so good its unreal
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Thanks Jae. I always wanted my own dickwolf.
>>530533689You missed Dawn of War: Winter Assault
>>530533831You don't sound very appreciative, shereen
>>530533831>I only needed to save FIVE planets, alright? Dynasty complete.
>>530526210Are you guys ever gonna stop crying about this shit character? Just play something else god damn.
I like giving kibbles a shotgun
>>530470234She's like a cat.
>>530470565>>530471009Not spiky enough.
>>530536264Calm your tits marzipan
Dang, an extra shot every turn on the sniper character sure would be awesome. I sure wish our sniper character could wear this awesome lategame exploration reward armor that would be perfect for her style of combat.
But unfortunately, she wears some dinky armor with no buff because she doesn't want to wear armor that was manufactured by a monkey.
One more for the book of grudges.
>>530537409>combat buffs instead of their base statistics
>>530537738It's more that it doesn't fit her because of her twink-like figure
>>530537738Tricky defense would boost her even more
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>>530537738>combat buffs instead of their base statisticsAnd he's not even doing it right
I keep making myself play WOTR because people say itโs the best, but Iโm halfway through act 3 and it just never gets good.
>>530538089Do you get to challenge the emperor with that psy rating?
>>530538357Meh, if you dont vibe with your mythic path it's pretty bad. Lich is the best one so maybe try that if you like necromancy it's really cool and only like 3% people ever played it which is a shame.
>>530538357>because people say itโs the bestLet's disregard this and no task who these people are or why you listen to them like gospel
>I keep making myself What kind of life led you to become like this?
Or were you just born retarded?
>>530538385Dunno but you do get to cope how it was worth it juggling bounty hunter mechanics for 10 minutes before the actual fight ended in 10 seconds.
>telling a level 5 dogmatard that you would break the rules of the imperium and of the death cult for personal reasons
*BLAM*
So sad. You hate to see it. I guess I have to romance Jimmy now.
I wish owlcat would realize that crpgs don't have to be 1 billion hours long to be good.
>>530539761I like them. You can stick to your tiktoks if you dont want to play a long rpg
>>530539761>long>doesn't even have ng+
>>530539965When every single one of their games has a lackluster second half that was clearly rushed maybe they need to trim the fat a bit.
If they made a more focused game without the filler they'd be able to put more effort into the encounter design and balance.
But owlcat fans would have meltdown if they made something other than another 200 hours of buggy slop.
>>530540612Encounter design is pretty good in general though. As for balance I'd rather have the game be broken in ways that's fun to break then astroturfed into no fun allowed everything is a slog. Bear in mind there are actually fags out there whining about the game being too hard.
>too much fluffBut why? Nice introduction to newfags, nice nod to nerds and a fairly good pacing with balance of roaming around doing fuck all you want with focused scripted missions.
I'd just wish they had a semi competent QA on staff.
>>530539761>>530540612people keep buying DLCs to make the main game even longer so I think you've already lost this battle
>>530539761RT is not as long as the previous 2 games, though the 2 extra dlc will push it to 100 hours
>>530539647Jimi just stood around while I let a planet turn into a daemon world, he isn't any better you dumb gay stupid retard
>I don't follow gaming news and barely play anything anymore so I don't have any opinions and probably won't even play DH.
>The biggest problem with Owlkeks is that they have no idea how to design game systems. They'll remove momentum and inevitably heck up something else. I have no hope for Owlkeks delivering actual good gameplay with real tactical depth unless they copy paste a tried and true TT system like they did with pozzfinder. They should hire Sawyer to deliver a masterclass on how to make mechanically good games. And I'm also sick and tired of Owlkek infantile """writing""" where they fellate the player nonstop while throwing waifubait cardboard cutouts designed to appeal to grease incel manchildren who have never sniffed a woman at them.
Frog on DH
>>530542443Why are you being a mouthpiece for a scat lover?
>>530538552I was born retarded but also became more retarded over time. Especially after Covid.
>>530538545I stumbled into some azata(?) one that wants me to plant garbage in the ground 30 times. I wanted trickery since Iโm a rogue, but I didnโt look up what triggers it which is apparently required to get anything but the one I have, angel, or demon.
I am replaying VTMB on the gog version, the unofficial patch 11.5
Don't really know what is happening but both sewer skips are missing, the old version and the new one. Anybody had the same problem in the last few years?
>>530542712I did it normally a few months ago, so I cannot help.
I did use no clip a couple times , like for that retarded 'swim in the vat quickly' thing
>>530539761I think the entire audience is NEETs and YouTubers. Playing a few hours a day most days a week, which is honestly an insane time commitment to do indefinitely, it would take actual years to 100% WOTR.
>>530542874And how many hours per day are you currently committing to shitposting?
Hot take
Long crpg's should come with a built in quick start option where you preset key options and flags and it jumps you to the second act.
>>530543316Like passwords for old games
>>530542037I know I'm not gonna be getting my way. Especially after the way people reacted to the wotr dlc that wasn't part of the main campaign. Not that stuff like through the ashes was some masterpiece or anything but its sad that people completely dismissed any dlc that didn't add more bloat to a game.
People already complain that the second half of these games drag and most people don't even finish a playthrough yet they still clamor for more content on top of that?
>>530543316The flags in any long crpg are already always such a fucking mess. I can't see it ever working properly.
>>530543316This is actually a really good idea. Iโd replay more of these branching path games if it were possible to skip the parts that are the same, which is always at least the beginning.
>>530542443He may be an insane schizo but he has a point
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>you have the biggest cock in the room for once
>>530543825I like long games I just don't appreciate all rpg devs making garbage later acts every single time without fail
maybe they wouldn't all be such a slog if there weren't things like house at the end of time that aren't fun for anyone sane
>>530435507 (OP)Playing through Divinity Original Sin now. Started with Tactician cause mama didn't raise no bitch. Wasn't too bad at first, but now I'm level 5 and I feel like I've hit a brick wall. Every encounter feels like complete bullshit, and I have no money to buy new equipment with (I also haven't been stealing because I'm RPing my characters as straight-laced heroes). I also don't have anyone who can craft worth a damn. I don't wanna restart like a shitter, but I feel stuck and like I wanna restart. But I also don't wanna go through all the early parts again, cause that'd feel like a slog. What's the play here?
>>530544473>What's the play here?admit yo momma raised a bitch
Owlcat should allow RT to build his own Speranza
>>530544601You just cheese one of the fights that seems easiest.
How is it compared to 2? I want more of 2 but Iโm afraid 1 will be too jank or something.
>>530544601My general advice for playing original sin is to not play original sin.
Fantasy/AoS elves > Deldar
Vect is cool though, I know GW removed a lot of the skimpy women he has in his harem but it's still canon in my head that the guy fucks human females regularly
>>530545736I'm not sure Vect's dick even works anymore
Didn't Marazhai cut his in half?
Trueborn are rare for a reason
One thing I find refreshing about neverwinter nights is that a lot of the modules are on the shorter side. They're often straight to the point and never really have time to have a dull moment.
Its nice having these short and sweet adventures I can make a character for and run though over a weekend or so when most crpgs take weeks to finish.
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>>530546258I would have preferred to dog as a companion and no space nigger
The dog could make interjections like Scooby doo
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>>530547626I swear this was the high mark of the entire dlc
I'm going to reroll as I'm not finding my psyker enjoyable. Gonna do a commisar but undecided on what "class". Should I be bladedancer, ranged gun dps or a more sword and board upclose tank.
>>530548937cumslut or semendaemon
>>530548937Bladedancer is too undignified for a commissar
>>530549042Yeah that was my thinking too. I'm leaning towards sword and pistol instead.
>>530549034coom before you post
>>530549117Sword and pistol is good, shields have seemed underwhelming so far
>>530549245Sword and pistol it is. Time to kill some xenos
>>530549245Bullshit. Shields are straight up busted.
>>530549479Maybe I'm not wielding them correctly
>>530531729I was also pissed off when I saw this
>>530549278Whatever you choose, you can respec by talking to the High Factotum character on the bridge and asking for training
>>530549617>>530531729It's clear now that yrl*et is the one with the problem
I just started replaying and Muaran is incredibly rude to her when you meet him first on Janus, so I think she has a reputation as a nuisance
>>530533625"Mundus" is High Gothic for "world". Presumably either the system was named after the noble house, or the noble house named after the system.
>>530549965To be fair, fars*ers are in no position to judge anyone
Hah! The xenos cannot comprehend our "primitive" human technology. I suppose Aeldari voidships are operated by singing control songs to a tree made of crystals or some hippy nonsense like that.
Why is every male face by Owlcat always wrinkly and ugly looking?
>>530549547They add a separate chance to avoid all attacks (including self inflicted psy and warp damage for some) that can't be reduced as long you're not on your ass. They give deflection without heavy armor or talents. They have a 0AP offhand attack that doesn't count toward the attack limit and that can be changed to aoe. They do counterattacks almost better than either the bd parry or vanguard stance with no class, somewhat work with them and for no ability or talent required and straight up better if you spend a single common talent and get two additional counterattacks (that can be procced unlimited times per turn and do aoe) that count for all your on hit modifiers like versatility or crit increase on attack.
And then you look at some of the special ones and see oh, that one gives temp wounds on block. Huh, I can give it to abelard and have someone fire a whole lot of 0 damage bursts at them. Suddenly abelard vanguard hits for ~500 damage pre crit, pre exemplar on unfair.
I wouldn't call them the best shit ever but they're sure as hell not underwhelming.
>>530544601>I also haven't been stealingYou're fucked then
Get a reduced level scaling mod sp you don't have to upgrade your equipment every other level to not get oneshot
>>530550506>voidships are operated by singing control songsWell it's not like we're much different
>>530550506Yrliet, you buffoon, you fool. I can certainly see why your kin failed to avoid the minefield in the first place.
>>530550506I love this bit
She's so helpless and cute
And the outcome when you do get the eldar ship on the horn is funny too
>>530550754Yeah but imagine missing an 85% chance?
What are the odds
>>530550625Your detailed post has convinced me to give shields another try
>>530550506holy shit
she is your pet xenos
>>530550986>What are the odds15%
>>530550986playing underrail, 95% is a 1 in 5 chance
70-80% is a miss
50% is an 80% for some reason
God there are practically no good talents for Operative Overseer. So much shit scales off Fellowship.
>still talking about Rouge Tarder
how? why?
>>530550754See, this is how you do it. You have to roll low.
Unfortunately the ship had no survivors. Yrliet is once again torn between blaming humans for her race's problems, and the grudging gratitude for fact that I tried to help. The xenos are such mysterious creatures.
>>530551576The DLC came out two weeks ago
This game is VERY long, many people are still playing it
>>530550986About 3 in 20 I'd reckon
>>530551132You do you man but I can't see something that has a whole lot of features and mechanics otherwise locked behind specific archetypes or talents or abilities bundled together, situationally even improved compared to them, and that can be used by anyone other than pasqal as bad. And with a healthy dose of additional tankiness because why not. Now sure if you take a GS or two and end everything before they even move a lot of that is irrelevant but the same is true for most other things in the game.
>>530551576what games would you rather talk about
if you say solasta 2 I will curse you
>>530551576I could go back to talking about Pillars and Avowed if you''d prefer
>>530552215you now bear the curse of 0 CHA
Which character in RT should I continue? Both are in Act 2, just cant decide who I want to beat the game with first. I have a typical pyro-> BD -> Ex screen melter Heretic. Super fun, but takes any challenge out of the game. I also have a Int focused heavy armor vigilant arb going soldier -> AM that is also pretty strong. He's a dogmatic sledgehammer for the Emperor with a soft spot for innocents caught between him and the anvil, so he has a few iconoclast points. Dual wielding shotty's is pretty fun and doesn't completely break the game.
>>530553135Continue taking meds
>>530551576Are you retarded? Game was already 100+ hours long, with 2 dlcs is even longer, it will take non neets weeks to beat.
By the time all people here will finish their playthroughs, Dark Heresy info will be dropping which means more 40k talk.
And once that's done 3rd dlc for RT will be announced, prompting people to replay it once again when it releases.
Then Dark Heresy will be released followed by 4th RT dlc and maybe announcement of a third season of dlcs for RT. This may happen in reverse, but either way it means more 40k discussion
Rogue Trader and Dark Heresy will be then alive simultaneously, played and discussed both and getting dlcs
And I almost forgot but soonish big balance rework for RT will be released as well, thus facilitating further discussion about RT in this short period of drought between Lex Imperialis and DH/3rd dlc. 40k won't leave this general until end of this decade at least.
>>530554603based 40k chads rule this general
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>>530552556behold
my cockring of i fucked your mother +5
>>530554603>40k won't leave this general until end of this decade at least.It's funny because its true.
Did I fuck up Argenta's quest?
>>530554603The thing is RT discussion did die down to regular crpg levels between this dlc and the last one so this retard is just pissing and shitting himself over a couple weeks of recent release discussion.
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Can I fashion this into a buttplug for jimmy? Sanguinala is coming up.
>>530554603>40k won't leave this general until end of this decade at least.This is why froggy killed himself btw
>>530555997Her quest has three endings you got the call her shit constantly ending.
>>530556139>10% of xeno artefact cargoI know a couple of lads on footfall who will pay for this beauty...
>>530556343pretend that I'm retarded for a second and explain to me what "% of X cargo" means please
I am never doing that round 2 Xanthir fight again. I was not expecting him to instantly drop all his swarms again right on top all my ranged guys who might be able to actually damage them and him.
>>530556343>she wasn't useless after all
>>530556250I merely told her that shooting first asking questions later is not the wisest of strategies
>>530556423If you add it to the cargo it will be 10% of a full cargo of xeno goods
Those cargos are what you sell to merchants for reputation, basically it's telling you how much it's worth
>>530556548So your cargo has a max capacity? Or does it means I need 10 of those to get "a" cargo of xeno goods?
>>530556715>Or does it means I need 10 of those to get "a" cargo of xeno goods?This
Does kibbles or solomorne get any interesting interaction in comorragh?
I need to drop somebody for Jimmy since I'm killing the elf
>>530557058cringe and dog whine
>>530557058Kibbles has some good stuff going on, she has an existential crisis
Solomorne is kind of boring, he gets mad his dog gets mistreated and that's about it. He tells you his backstory and it's very uninteresting
>>530489713One of the things that's odd to me is that they didn't make Ulfar Iconoclast, if any Space Marine chapter fits that conviction path, it's the Wolves since their whole dispute with the Imperium is how heartless it has become.
>>530557776He was supposed to have the furfag conviction but they didn't manage to implement it in time
>>530511239Women cannot pull off being a narcissist half as well as a man can. They cannot pull off mockery and rage a tenth as well as a man can. They cannot pull off the will to survive at all. They cannot be "Mr. Steal Your Girl" whatsoever. And all of these things are crucial to Marazhais character. Marazhai would've been terrible if he was a female.
>>530511239No appeal to homos and overlap with kibbles
>>530557776Because ultimately, despite Iconoclast being just Chaotic Good, reverence to the Emperor however the character would call them, is still dogmatic and Ulfar still has that in spades. This alignment system doesn't really work frankly.
>>530558128I tire of this false accusation against the Space Wolves, they are just Vikings, that's the main theme of the faction, the furry stuff is just a meme, it's no more real than Yvraine X Guilliman or T'au femboys.
Holy shit Solomorne sucks
I just got to the bridge fight and he's super bad
>>530559058You're just baiting for furry porn
>>530558216Marazhai is none of those things desu. And Yrliet makes more sense as a man already, no need to change anything
>>530559058I hope when Owlcat finally does a tau itโs a woman and she looks how theyโre supposed to look. I want to see the meltdowns.
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>>530559202I can fix him.
>>530559280No. I like the Wolves, they're one of my favorite factions in the game, and I am sick and tired of people claiming they're "furries" because of retarded secondaries that know nothing about them and just spam dumb memes and regurgitated trash that has no actual basis in the lore. As I said it's no more real than all the other bullshit stuff "fans" have come up with, like the Eldar X Human fanart, the T'au gooner bait, or Abhumans like Felinids actually being a real, relevant thing instead of a footnote. It's just bullshit.
>>530559461He is all of those things.
Are the Tau in 40k? They are the only cool thing about the setting
Vyatt should have been romanceable, she is literally everything jae is pretending to be.
>>530559929Why are all inquisitors fat
>>530560001>in 40koops I meant RT
>>530560001Thereโs a kroot companion in dark heresy
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>>530559714Yes and eldar aren't gay. Keep coping and seething buddy.
>>530560001>Are the T'au in 40KI assume you mean Rogue Trader, right? And no, they aren't. It's possible but highly unlikely they'd bring one in during the next DLC pass but I doubt it, since Ork is more requested than T'au are, and if they add an Ork companion they can also use the model for a bunch of combat encounters as well, which makes them all the more likely.
>>530557398>>530557397Good to know, I already don't care for the dog mich other than to fuck with solomorne
>>530560279And your response to my pointing out only retarded secondaries with their meaningless fanart and fancomics believe these stupid things, is to post a meaningless fancomic. I rest my case.
>>530560496Now tell me about how much you desire to get knotted. Furfag.
>>530560045Fat guys assert dominance
>>530560339>an Ork companionwould that not be too much of a stretch? why would an ork take orders from a Rogue Trader? d/eldars are smart enough to scheme and have plans on their own, but why would an ork not smash the MC at the first given opportunity?
>>530560654Because you could play as a Ork in RT tabletop and people want them
>>530560654Weapons, loot, fancy hats, constant battle? Freebootaz ie mercs are a thing and once upon a time there even used to be officially sanctioned orks in the imperial navy as well.
Anons I haven't played RT ever since it came out
Never got to finish it because, in true owlcat fashion, the ending was bugged
Has there been many changes, aside from bug fixes?
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It's my first time and I know nothing about the game. Should I play normal instead?
I didn't know anything about PF either but I was able to make it through Core.
>>530560892Sorry anon I didn't pick divination. How about you just give it a go and see how it goes?
>>530560654Have you never heard of Da Emprahs Greenest? Seriously though, there are rules for Ork Freeboota characters in the TT RPG, which is what RT is sourced off of. Ork Freebootas will work for anyone, they're simply still Orks and not that reliable or trustworthy, but a savvy RT can make it work as long as he remains aware of what he's dealing with. There are rules for T'au characters, as well, so they are also still a possibility.
>>530561003If they go somewhere else will you actually post about another crpg?
>>530561003LMFAO. I remember that one. Not as awful as bg3 general but even THE frog avoided it still.
>>530561003What would you talk about without RT. There's nothing new!
>>530560496You're trying waaay too hard nigger. Take your meds, pull that stick out of your ass and recognize it as a good natured joke that it is. Where do you think shit like angry or pretty muhreens came from and why? Fags around here have been taking the piss out of this for years and good on them.
Every day I thank god for making me not buy space marines.
>>530561910It's not a "good natured joke" it's retarded secondaries who know nothing about Space Wolves forcing a dumb meme. If you wanna engage in furfaggotry discussion fuck off to the Sonic The Hedgehog fandom.
>>53056217240k prices are beyond ridiculous
>>530561586Sure. I might even see other people post about crpgs and respond to them, instead of skimming 1/4 of the thread then just giving up because it's so tedious
>>530561003This is just an owlcat general with the occasional pillars anon. Just accept it
>>530562517Hereโs your chance bro. Compose a single actual post that contributes to some kind of actual discussion about crpgs. I believe you can do it.
>>530562172>>530562402Last full army I did was Mordians like two-three editions ago and goddamn that still took a lot even with cheapo chinese knockoffs and conversions supplementing it. Even 2400pts makes for a lot of infantry and I went almost triple that lol.
>>530562326Still trying too hard chief.
>>530562172good thing about space marines
>poster boys so you'll never be fucked by the rulesbad thing about space marines
>space marines
>>530562517You are such a crybaby nigger faggot. If you want to talk about other games, post about them. I fucking got a few posts going on the QfG series of all games a few threads ago, maybe actually talk about and discuss other CRPGs yourself instead of whining about what other people are posting about, yeah? Fucking bitch.
>>530561720>the frog avoided itThat seems like it would make it tolerable
why are rogue tourists so fragile?
maybe they would be more comfortable in /rtg/ away from any criticizing
>>530562915Could it be the crybaby who got ignored for his BG post is crying still? That would be funny
>>530562856>You'll never be fucked by the ruleslol
lmao
hahahahahahahahahahahaha BULLSHIT there are plenty of times Space Marines have not been meta, even right now they're not counted among the top three armies in 10th, arguably not even top five.
>>530563097I can see that being the case honestly.
>>530562915Every mixed general develops some thread police schizo who wants nobody to ever talk about anything because itโs interfering with all the nothing heโs posting otherwise.
>>530563271Every general develops some thread police schizo who wants nobody to ever talk about anything because itโs interfering with all the nothing heโs posting otherwise.
Fixed it for you
Holy fuck why is he so fucking METAL (pun intended)
>WOTR
>realize I havenโt saved in a while
>pause + enter to quick save
>some tiny trash mob entered me in combat somehow
>so in Owlcatโs infinite wisdom the same key combo for โprevent data lossโ becomes โinstant data lossโ
>lose 3 hours
Fuck it Iโm done
>>530563441no like glorious soviet game? xaxaxa
>>530563441Itโs your fault for not compulsively saving constantly.
>>530563430Pasqal is the best character Owlcat ever made. It's not even close.
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>>530563430And then he plops an oil spill all over without looking even slightly inconvenienced. Truly based.
>>530563664Meanwhile solmore is trying to sniff your ass while rubbing his own on the floor.
>>530563818Solomorne is the worst character since Yrliet. I actually might dislike him more than her, and I hate her, so that's a massive blow to how I rate this DLC. At least the rest of the content is good.
>>530563441>pause + enter to quick savewhat is this retardation? It's F5 and F8 for me.
>>530559929>that wig>that girthm-masaka...
I donโt think I could go 3 hours without saving without having some kind of nervous breakdown.
>>530564184Do you just never do Ironman runs or something? Saving is for the weak.
>>530564278God no. These games are way too fucking long and full of bugs to do ironman.
>>530564009I mean how hard is it to do a hardboiled cop character and why do you feel the need to push two-five romance responses in every line I can direct at him?
>>530564045Whatever, the point is that making the command for quick save perform a quick load when quick saves are disabled, instead of any kind of sane or non-hostile UX, is psychotic
>>530564563You control the buttons you press
>>530564563Right? Plus I really am annoyed with how attached he is to his dog, the way he's written he's as emotionally dependent on it as a women past menopause is with her pets. It really kills his character for me. It's even more baffling because they've written a character with an animal companion before (Ekun'dayo) and it wasn't anywhere near this cringe.
>>530564563>why do you feel the need to push two-five romance responses in every line I can direct at him?it's really annoying. I've been thinking - given how widespread romances and fag content are, it would be nice to have an option to select your character sexuality during character creation. So it simply filters out all fag content.
>>530564521>Way too longHow is that an argument against Ironman? You actually save time since you're not reloading to change a dialogue choice or some outcome you dislike, which is what savefags constantly do, which wastes far more time than Ironmanchads ever do.
>Full of bugsThat's what Toybox is for.
>>530563430Fuck bros I am not sure about it
It sounds like a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands...
>>530564792Man that would be fantastic, imagine if you could just hard lock your characters sexuality in BG3, for example. It would massively improve the game and your interaction with party members. Maybe we could actually get actually content rich NPC interactions like Dak'kons that aren't reliant on romance as a result, too.
>>530564784Are you gay any chance
>froggy
Not real, just because someone doesn't share the same opinion as you on a video game doesn't mean some schizo is out to get you.
>>530565009Doesn't really matter. We'll do his own decisions based on his alignment counter. Also where the FUCK is Abel
>>530565009As if there are better hands to hold it than Pasqals/Amarnats. If you can't trust him you can't trust anyone.
>>530564941Iโm not replaying 40 hours of a game because I rolled a one.
>>530560892Yeah, it's a good starting point. Get a feel for it, adjust as necessary.
The difficulty curve in the first act is a bit weird, I started on Daring and the first few fights were really difficult, but then I recruited more followers and got some more tools and the fights got boring easy. I turned the difficulty up to Hard for act 2, and it's been mostly fine.
>>530565242Froggy is real. I miss him. Gay cop wasn't enough to bring him back.
>>530565296>>530565301He made his choice
I will not interfere
>Also where the FUCK is AbelI don't remember, he was the one from act 1 right? I did a mercy kill on him, I couldn't possibly imagine what he was a part of
>>530564184Same, I save constantly, all the time and actually have to stop myself from making hundreds of save files. Eventually I will make them anyway and then have to manually delete them from save folder, because deleting saves in game is always somehow fucking shit
I used to have a contrary autism back when I was a teenager because I constantly deleted all save files save for one since mess in loading menu annoyed me. Until one day when I was playing Jade Empire. During overwriting of my single save file there was a power outage which corrupted my playthrough. I never played Ironman in any game ever since.
>>530565478>I did a mercy kill on him, I couldn't possibly imagine what he was a part ofYou MONSTER
>>530564792>select your character sexuality during character creationNo going to lie, that's kinda brilliant.
>>530564784I can see him throwing him a bone or a stoic nod once in a while or getting pissed if you intentionally kick it or somesuch but yeah, when he starts whining it's like that thing is a poodle and not a light tank.
>>530565242Either baiting or too new to know who we are talking about
>>530565478what is that twink's alignment and who's he romancing
>>530563818Why are there so many flirt options for Solomorne? Did the writer think he was really hot?
>>530565647>alignment true cringe
>>530565562He was all corrupted by chaos and shit!
>>530565791You could've purify him by prayers and shit, he'd live with you and Pasqal on the ship and write you cute binary songs
>>530565612Yeah. I swear Solomorne was written by a female, no man acts or thinks the way he does.
>>530565925Well I couldn't know that
My character wasn't full iconoclast yet at that point
>>530566268It's a Dogmatic option. The Iconoclast choice that saves him is putting on the cultists clothes and sabotaging them.
>>530565957>No man is a lawtist>no man goes o na rage because you hirt his pet>no man is awkward around women?
>>530566376> The Iconoclast choice that saves him is putting on the cultists clothes and sabotaging them.It's what I did, but I mercy killed him afterwards upon seeing his state
Dogmatic or Iconoclast. Which is more based?
>>530565957You didn't answer me , are you gay?
>>530566489Dogma-Iconoclast, obviously
You exterminatus and cleanse everything that needs to be purged and provide all the needed resources and prayers to the righteous citizens of the Imperium. Basically, be Argenta or Abelard.
>>530566489Both, in different ways
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>>530566436Yeah, I don't get it either. What kind of man doesn't flirt like a schoolgirl and then fuck another man up the ass while not shutting up about his dog?
>>530566903You are massively insecure
>>53056648940k is fairly cringe as a setting, so I'd have to say Iconoclast is more based.
>>530566489Dogmatic, it's not even close, Iconoclasts are idiots that will get everyone killed long term in a universe as hostile as the one in 40K.
>>530567072I know but I'm used to using chrome ever since palefox went to shit.
>>530567075You shouldn't recommend the Heretical path in Rogue Trader even as a jest, it's the worst written Evil path in CRPG history. No one should suffer such trash.
>>530566489Neither. No alignment is best.
>>530567524False. Dogmatic is best.
>>530567417You hate having some of the best gear in the game for free and earlier than everyone else?
>>530567631The emperor hates you
>>530566489This is the kind of top quality discussion that would be perfect for /rtg/
>>530568143We had /ocg/ and it died
We had /rtg/ and it died
Just accept that close to release this general will have a lot of rt and move on
I'm just thankful that /bgg/ has managed to drag on this long.
If it died, the next logical place for them is here. There's probably good meme gif potential but alas I am past my meming years.
>>530568298You do understand the point is in bitching itself rather than bitching about something in particular?
>>530566489Heretic
Primordial Trvth grants you the power of becoming a daemon prince
Finally Yrliet
Finally you make a comment that is a show of loyalty towards me, who helped you so hard.
Character development, too bad the game ends soon
guys is it just me or does CHAOS TOTALLY SUCK
>>530566489Dogma-Iconoclast fenceshitter aligned with Calcazar. Purge everything Chaos-related with no mercy, obviously this same with Genestealers and make sure to consolidate power. At this same time improve quality of life of your subjects and make peace with Eldar.
>>530568996I think you just suck
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>>530568949Jimmy is PISSED
>>530568937And more importantly a ch1 heavy bolter
How the fuck did you guys maxx out all merchants? I instantly maxxed out the kasballica but I am so fucking far from some others
>>530569791loot everything not nailed to the ground
pick reputation options for colony events always
>>530569791The navy one is the only real pain in the ass
>>530568949>Character development, too bad the game ends soonshe says 1 nice thing to idira in idira's final quest which feels unearned considering how yrliet treated your companions up to that point. and she goes "i totally suspected that" at the twist in cassia's quest finale and says nothing else like fuck off no you didn't
>>530570018>>530570051I loot everything but I don't always pick them for planets
I also should have sold less to the kasballica because I had 2 buildings that gave me rep to build while I had already maxxed them out. I could have gotten that rep into the fellowship I guess.
I still have solomorne's DLCs final quest left, since I am waiting for the fix to come out
Alternatevely, I can spam warp jumps in orange areas to farm loot.
>>530570330I think you already figured it out brother
>>530570564It's time to farm like a little loot goblin to get to buy items I won't even use or need isn't it
>>530570716Bingo. Next time do it smarter or cheat like a filthy casual.
By the way are you completely fucked in the Sargona finale if you didn't bring anyone longranged?
>>530571350While Yrliet was fundamental to my victory because in act 2 she deals insane damage, I find the best way to disable the thing is to use Kibellah to simply jump over the crates, so you only have to disable one plasma barrier and she can disable the rest if she reaches the cogitator, which she can do turn one.
A fine day to once again play a role in my favorite crpg, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
>>530572114What's your favorite role? I like to play vampire illusionists
>>530542443Is he wrong tho?
>>530572087Well I happened to leave out my only other range over 6 character because the game forced me into respecting the diversity quota. Thank the omnissiah I brought cogbro with me.