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>>530513491Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own risk.
-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-4
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Why won't Kris be a nicer vessel like Frisk and Tiz from Bravely Default?
>>530537902Frisk is not a vessel. Red SOUL is his own SOUL.
reposting here since the last thread is dead soon.
>>530537285>so thatโs where Knight came from Not entirely, it's way more complicated that that I will spoil it here, but if you read this you spoil what I remember of breath of fire 3
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
>the main character is a mute protag and meets a bandit group early on>they're a rag tag group but you wind up joining them because you fight them>the main leader looks like your opposite and is basically griffith maxing but nice>the whole first few hours of the game is like a prologue sorta like KH2>it ends in you nearly dying and drowning along with your friends who go missing THIS IS THE POINT OF NO RETURN ON SPOILERS
>you eventually find the two bandits and they join you later, but the master is no where to be found>fast forward to endgame, the master is the main badguy>he's apparently the leader of the alien race invading the world and turning it into something I forget>you fight him on this giant paradise world that's a space ship and he explains that you are both of the alien race>not only that but you are his other half seperated at birth and that only one of you can life>the last fight is you fighting him and if you do everything right you both die>but you merge>once you do both of you become what you weree supposed to be and the Main character can finally speak and is now independent of you>I think he thanks you and the game wraps up>paradise is ushered in basically
>>530537902>adopted>only one of their race in the whole town>race dystrophia>molested by their older brother>probably witnessed dess die>divorced parentsyou can't expect them to act like a good boy
>>530537902Because we've had too many nice ones
>>530538069If only they had an older sister to molest them instead...
Even if I could fix her, I wouldn't.
>>530538069>incest headcanon out of nowhere
FRIENDship ended with Chess Theory
Now Cat/Dog Theory is my top theory
Catti has a collection of Jockington's shed skins.
>>530538198Dare I ask about the Cat/Dog theory?
>>530538020You're mixing up BoF3 and BoF4, 3 is the one with the timeskip and 4 is the one with the cool alter ego guy
>>530537760 (OP)Why don't more people stan for Queen? Everyone likes her, but I don't see people drawing fetish art or wanting to marry her or whatever.
>>530538170I make that mistake too sometimes
>>530538170they aren't blood related so it's not really incest
>>530538234Her Dark World weapon is a whip and her ultimate weapon is the JockStrap
>>530538368It was never stated that Kris was adopted
Kris goes to the diner and only gets a dozen free hot chocolates before the rabbit bitch says they've had enough
It's no wonder Kris is so damaged on the inside... The other monsters just don't get it...
>>530538417Someone should add ICE-E to the dog category, his Japanese name indicates that he's supposed to be a bulldog.
>>530538273It's correct, I went and looked it up The relationship between
>the dragon whelpand
>TeepoIs eerily similar to Kris and what I assume would be other Kris.
It's just playing out throughout the game rather than being text dumped on you in endgame
>>530538420>toriel got drunk and fucked a humyn>or asgore cheated on toriel with a humynnew schizo theory?
>>530538420>toriel giving birth to her second child>it's a human>asgore doesn't question anythingThanks for that funny mental image.
I self insert as the soul
>>530538530>>530538542Funniest option is that Toriel's womb just did that. Humanitis is simply a rare genetic mutation for boss monsters.
>>530538306Right? It's fucking weird. Maybe it's because she lacks the extra layer of pathetically sympathetic? She's too stable, I guess.
>>530538649>the midwife acting like they pulled a super rare shiny holo out of toriel
>>530538542>Asgore cheating with Rudy>Feels horrendously guilty about it, doesn't know what he'll tell Toriel>Toriel gives birth to a human>Massive weight off his shoulders>Continues screwing Rudy
>>530538273wait no you're right, the ending of 4 merged with the entiriety of 3 somehow. IN my brain, So I g uess that's the one where they merge?
>>530538306She's alright, but the general standard of girls is too high
I'd probably simp for her if noelle didn't exist
>>530538745She does have that sad dialogue if you don't recruit anyone
>>530538530>>530538542>>530538649>humanitisAre you guys, like, okay? This is somehow even weirder than usual.
>>530538829I don't like that
Where's the undo snowgrave button
>>530538913>furplayinteresting
>>530538960Are you autistic
>Time loop theory is true.
>The only one who remembers previous runs is Kris.
>Ralsei doesn't remember, but the prophecy keeps self-updating with every run, so Ralsei gets to know more or less what is supposed to happen.
>The prophecy isn't really entirely a prophecy, it's more of a log of events Kris has been maintaining. In it, he writes down all the events that seem to push towards the perfect ending.
>Kris creates Ralsei/Ralsei's dark world anew with every run of Deltarune and leaves the prophecy there for him to read up on.
>Ralsei knows this which is why he keeps trying to talk to Kris alone, they're trying to decide what are the best next steps to take, and what needs to happen.
>It's not that the prophecy is doing a bait and switch between Susie and Noelle, it's that Kris tried many times to reach the perfect ending with Noelle in the fun gang, and she let him down every single time, then he started trying with Susie and it went much better so he adapted the prophecy as best he could. This is also why Kris gets mad that (You) keep trying to force Noelle back into it in Wierd.
>Kris DID slash Susie and Ralsei in the Knight fight. Ralsei was genuinely excited because he didn't know defeating the Knight there was something that could happen as Kris didn't leave it in the prophecy. When Kris throws the fight on purpose, Ralsei later commenting to him how he thought they were so close but he understands now it wasn't gonna cut it and there's still a ways forward is because he realizes Kris already tried several time loops of defeating the Knight there and concluded that results in a bad ending every time.
>This is also why Kris knew exactly what to say to throw Susie off in that one text. It's also why Kris doesn't seem to be bothered by Susie even while she's bullying him. And it's why Kris always knows where to find secret bullshit that no sane person would know to look for.
>The only respite for Kris in all this eternal loop insanity is hanging out with Susie.
>>530538829So am I going to get exclusive control to Noelle after Kris ejects me, or do I switch? Or is she just going to be my thrall?
Maybe I'll die but live because I've bloomed inside of Noelle.
>>530538893She does? Well, I suppose that's the issue. It's a Toby Fox game, so most people go all in in either direction.
>>530538859But consider that Queen is Noelle's real mom. Oyakadon.
>>530538913KRIS STOP FUCKIN TOUCHING YOURSELF AND SKIN THAT DOE. FUCKING ANGELS ASSHOLE IM SO HUNGRY
>>530539114>And it's why Kris always knows where to find secret bullshit that no sane person would know to look for.But I'm the one doing that
>>530539114>This is also why Kris knew exactly what to say to throw Susie off in that one text.What was this, exactly?
>>530538069>>530538170Don't act like he didn't enjoy getting pumped full of boss monster seed. It validated him in a way nothing else could.
>>530539114...Why would Kris need to slash Susie and Ralsei? He's a leader, he can just say to conserve healing items, and the gang will be SWOONed in no time.
>>530538170gay people fantasies about molesting their siblings
Is there anyone who didn't pick the former?
>>530539114>Kris at the start of the game dislikes Ralsei because at this point he's both kind of exhausted by Ralsei's super servile and cutesy personality, and he remembers time loops in which Ralsei also failed him.>But Ralsei crumbling in this time loop also made him feel worse about it and that's why the tea score went up.>The Soul is a total wildcard. No idea where it came from, but it's probably another desperate attempt at trying to change the results.>>530539316In the newest girl text, it's not in the actual game.
All the headcanons where the characters secretly hate each other and want to hurt each other and are actually OK to hate because of it are so tiresome
What an exhausting way to experience this game about fucked up animal characters plus human
>>530539356of course, but there's lots to unpack there. they probably feel guilty over loving it and it's messing with their head.
>>530539356Diaps Guy enjoyed it
https://youtu.be/TmukTVdQV4Y
DADDY
>>530539232>But consider that Queen is Noelle's real mom. Oyakadon.My love for noelle is an expression of my unhealthy obsession towards all the opportunities I threw away as a child/teenager
So monogomy only for me, sadly
>>530539359>He's a leader, he can just say to conserve healing itemsBut I'm the leader and the one in charge of healing items
>>530539416Me (I am a hardcore salt route truther)
>>530539371uhh I fantasize about BEING molested by my sibling, get it right
>>530539416I always pick perish. Kris sounds excited when they say it which is funny to me.
>>530539525>DADDYFuck you made me imagine those bara gigachad Sans arts but with Tenna
>>530539416Me (I am homosexual)
>>530539525Why didn't Toby make a Japanese dub of this for the Japanese version? Does he actually hate the Japanese after all? Is he going to have the Darkners of Fat Man and Little Boy appear on screen so Kris can say "There should have been a third one" as their only line of dialogue in the entire game?
>>530539525My heart is meltingโฆ every time I hear those little voice strains, i uncontrollably crack a smile
im glad toby curb-stomped suselle and will curb-stomp asriel fags hard when he shows up
>>530539681spamton and tenna are musclebound sex hounds
>>530539509So long as we're in agreement that Asriel and Kris fucked
>>530539674There are two interpretations of this. Kris is either the "I love a woman who will actually just kill me." type, or they're a suicidal emo brat. Given the rest of the game so far, leaning toward the latter, honestly.
>>530539816*Asriel and Diaps Guy
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>>530539681I've got you covered brother
>>530539791This WILL happen in the bunker dark world
>>530539947The comments on that mod's page are legitimately painful to read btw
>>530540000hes thicc... would...
>>530539971I won't be satisfied until we get this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olINAdLIJX0 with Tenna
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A friendly reminder that Chara's personality was shaped by fans and artworks; in reality, no one knows for sure what Chara was really like
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>>530540138Except Asriel who canonically called her a bad person
Chapter 5 takes place in the hospital
Asgore opens the fountain with the black shard
The flower trapped in asylum is the one in rudy's room
Dark world rudy is him at his prime
Noelle gets to spend plenty of time with rudy
The twist is that dark world rudy is secretly a dustner, rudy died right before the fountain was opened
Asgore is revealed to be a bad guy
Knight identity is revealed
The shadow crystal boss is berdly, and only accessible on weird route. Getting the crystal kills him.
>>530539947Why is it anyone's business as to how I treat my software license. If I buy some art, nothing's stopping me from painting it over when I get home. If I want to edit portraits and characters, that's my right as a consumer.
>>530540138they were a smartass
>>530540252WRONG chapter 5 is in the picnic area by the ocean. The place where the trees would grow
>>530540360This part was one of my chapter 3 highlights
>>530539816They at least frotted in the shower. With Kris's monster dysphoria there must have been a day where Kris studied every inch of Azzys body and compared it to their. Just seeing the size of a big monster cock must have convinced Kris to stop being a male because calling themself a male was as foolish as calling themself a monster.
>>530540360I loved this gag
>>530540360Would you believe I started listening to TV World right before this popped up? Instant save
>>530540360>>530540475I actually started listening it 20 seconds ago and saw it.
>>530540252>Asgore opens the fountain with the black shard1) You don't need any special weapons to open the fountain
2) Does Asgore steal Carol's BlackShard? Does she lend it to him? Explain.
>>530540360This game is the world's most elaborate shitpost, I swear.
>>530539791Itoi didn't make japanese versions of Polyana
>>530540259Errrm many publishers technically forbid modding like Nintendo, whenever you accept their ToS.
>>530540450Kris is canonically AFAB, though.
>>530539114No way Kris remembers. The game just isn't reactive enough for that.
Ralsei remembering through the prophecy is an interesting idea given his ch4 hero description "Records and faces the fate." I don't think we otherwise have a good justification for the "records" part yet.
>>530539114Genuine question, what would a timeloop add to Deltarune's narrative? How does it build upon its themes? It just seems like a twist for the sake of being a twist.
>>530539947Why do these types care what other people do so much?
>>530539525Please tell me this isn't Toby's voice
>>530540608>ACABSorry, I don't speak twitter-ese.
>>530540360https://youtu.be/YtNkhb9OnVU?si=zClqxxITKzTwGIVW&t=4
>>530540450OK hold on. Don't go giving Kris double body dysphoria like that. I doubt cock size would have even registered to him. But totally spent a solid hour or more looking at his brother's body, without question
>>530540208Heโs one to talk.
>>530540772>>530540450>Kris caressing Asriel's soft, wet, clumpy fur as he's disgusted by their own human skin
>>530540608Kris took a bath with Noelle and despaired how her tiny ass and mosquito bites on her chest invalidated them as a woman.
>>530540208That's a very vague description. What does it mean to be bad? Have a sick sense of humor? Have a tendency toward violence? Harbor plans for revenge against humanity? Or was Chara just allowing himself to bully small monsters? Or did Chara bully Asriel, but the latter put up with it because โbest friends foreverโ? Or did Chara just have a crappy personality?
>>530540682There are a lot of imagery of Kris losing his hand. But he have a hand. The way to reconcile this contradiction is by having him lose it in the 1st attempt, and having actual events of the game be the 2nd attempt.
>>530540913I love this gote cutie
In chapter 6 we will see a photo of Ralsei that turns out to be Kris having glued all of his family's sheddings onto himself.
>>530540702Pretty sure every voice in the game (that isn't a female voice) is him
The Batter, now that guy was a proper fucking vessel. Why can't Kris be more like him?
>>530540886>kris' hands casually roaming across his brother's body while they share the bed because kris doesn't like sleeping alone
>>530540259"People" like you are why fanfiction is an abomination.
>>530540907any girl would be jealous of noelles bakery
>>530541037That doesn't answer anons question. Why even have Kris lose his hand
>>530540975Not him but I think all those thing you listed are true. I'm not the one to autistically go over every line said in Undertale but I think Asriel was just being kind when he said Chara probably wasn't the best person.
I LOVE TV!!! I LOVE TENNA!!!!!
>>530541102>Begs you to not leave him because he depends on you so hard on the mission that he can't flip a switch on his ownHe's the exact opposite of Kris in the worst possible way. He also kept the nature of his mission a secret from you intentionally and never gave you a choice in the matter, but that's not the point of OFF.
>Kris sex doll has been removed in the latest patch
>>530541037>There are a lot of imagery of Kris losing his hand.The theoryschizos are literally making shit up now.
>>530540801Hey, when you're stuck as an emotionless flower for the better part of several decades, you start to go a little kooky.
>>530540975Chara:
>poisoned his father>wanted to kill humans on sight>poisoned himself>regularly got into trouble>got called a bad person by his closest friend/brother(-figure)Even without any additional subtext, we know Chara liked causing harm in different ways at the least.
>>530541115Does Kris care about Asriel? If you choose the option to pray for Asriel in the church, Kris will say his name blankly. Chris puts more emotion into his prayer for Susie
>>530540259These people unironically cheer when mods for games like Stardew Valley add in LGBT stuff.
>>530540685hopefully just because their terminally online children
I'd hate to think people getting this upset about this shit being full grown adults
>>530541135Fuchs literally made fanfiction, though. Real mpreg shit. So since he doesn't respect Nintendo's intellectual property, I can change his.
>>530541309My hole is going to swallow up that nose
>>530541435who got raped harder kris or lisa
>>530541281Asriel is basically Ralsei, who is incapable of saying anything bad about anyone. I mean, Ralsei tried to justify Roaring Knight
>>530540682There's a theme, particularly around the Holiday family, of things being frozen in place and never moving on. Susie also talks about wishing each day was the same as the last. But in chapter 3, we see the issue with clinging to the past, trying to do the same thing over and over. The game gets old. A time loop would fit into that theme pretty well. Even if you go back to exactly where you were before, it won't be the same as your first time through. You won't be able to enjoy it the same way.
>>530541371Carol threw it out
>>530540252Why is he even taking up a bed? He's not on IV, no dialysis, no monitoring device. In what world would he not be discharged to home if he can go to church alone?
>>530541398Because what does he have to pray about? Asriel is well off at college. That is, if you assume Asriel isn't the knight and Kris isn't intentionally keeping info from us (which he does constantly in relation to Asriel).
BIG SHOT era Spamtenna fluff is so pleasant to look at. They don't know it's all gonna tumble down.
>>530541582That he's safe, continues to do well, and is happy.
>>530541102No fucking way. The Batter is Kris but actually competent
>>530541443No he didn't. And even if he did, two wrongs don't make a right. Fuck off.
>>530541576He would rather rent a hospital bed than stay at home considering his current relationship with Carol
>>530541396>poisoned his fatherAn accident.
>wanted to kill humans on sightCould have been justified.
>poisoned himselfKilling yourself doesnโt make you a horrible person.
>regularly got into troubleAs most kids do.
>got called a bad person by his closest friend/brother(-figure)Asriel is a mass murdering shithead.
>>530541352>>Begs you to not leave him because he depends on you so hard on the missionSee, Kris could learn a thing or two. They're just as dependent on me for fountain-sealing, but they don't know how to beg properly.
>>530541398Ancient chocolate healing so much implies it's like Azzy tea
>>530541438Theyโre tumblr kids who grew up, and are now permanently damaged psychos.
>>530541745If you don't want your product modified by a customer, don't sell it. Do you shit your pants when someone paints their car a new color?
>>530541443The mpreg fanfiction and the Nintendo fanfiction are two separate things
>>530541529A bit different situation with Ralsei since he "knows" about the prophecy, something that defines his existence. He is confused about his own identity and probably not sure what to think about the prophecy and whether it can or should be changed post Chapter 4.
Asriel's sense of right and wrong is more clear, not that it makes him worse character or anything.
>>530541582You don't pray regularly, do you?
>>530541576He's in hospice anon
>>530541893Inb4 myths about modding Ferrari being illegal
>>530541893>"If you don't want your children to get raped, don't ever let them out of the house."Dude.
HospICE?
More like HospNICE
>>530542063He's dying in a few months? Grim.
>Ahhhh you can't add a cupholder to this car because that wasn't the designer's INTENT
If you don't want your children to get raped, don't ever let them out of the house, said Dess.
>>530541773>An accident.He found it amusing. And before you say anything, Flowey confirms that Chara has a sick sense of humor.
>Could have been justified.Kill few humans to get their souls and break the barrier is ok. The desire to kill a bunch of people at the cost of the survival of the monster race (a new war would simply wipe everyone out) is not okay.
>Killing yourself doesnโt make you a horrible person.But this death led to the player controlling the soul taking control of Asriel, and because of this, he was unable to defend himself against humans and died.
>As most kids do.Chara creates problems, rather than getting into them.
>Asriel is a mass murdering shithead.Chara is a universal murdering shithead. And unlike Asriel, who did it because he had gone mad, Chara did it with a clear mind and an undisguised passion for power.
>>530542425It's like they're in some king of Rapegrave
>>530542425He's just hooked up to a going-into-Deltarune machine
>>530542284That is correct. Deal with it. And I just want to point out that you wouldn't be defending fanfic bullshit if this was one of those "anti-woke" games. I see you.
When the time comes will Kris actually betray Susie or will they side against the Knight
>>530542571That will be YOUr decision.
>>530542469>the player controlling the soul taking control of Asrielwhat
>>530542542Show me an instance of a woke-ifying mod being removed from the internet, like adding gay romances or raceswapping to a more oppressed skintone.
>>530542571Kris likes Susie too much to betray her. Kris is planning to sacrifice a bunch of other characters behind her back.
>>530542542NTA but I've always loved gay fanfics and ships for Enders Game despite the author hating gays.
>>530542469Toriel also laughs when you kill her. Do you think she found it amusing,
>>530542425Kris.... Is le in a coma... And all events of deltarune are their imagination dealing with trauma....
>>530542806She found death pleasurable
>>530542571It will depend on how many Hometown scenes you saw with Susie. If you just rushed through those sections Kris will side with Knight, if you did with Susie. It works on a point-based system and the diner scene and the Susie prize are the most important ones.
>>530542571100% betray because we need to have a cool boss fight against them eventually. No, it won't be weird route exclusive, there's too much (You) vs. Kris build-up in the normal route for that.
>>530542827Someone make an edit of that pic with Gaster
https://youtu.be/lCwVr2s-pF0?feature=shared&t=234
holy kino
>>530542702It's almost like nobody is inclined to remove such mods. Assuming the type you describe actually exist outside of your head.
>>530542571The inferno of jealousy over Susie and Noelle getting together will make Kris betray their friends
>>530542425Kris ends up in the hospital after Chapter 7
>>530542779How the fuck are you gay and a fan of Ender's Game? The author literally wants you to die.
>>530542915Trash. Fuck remixes and covers too.
Planting my face here and huffing would fix me.
>he didn't reach the knight in chapter 4
>>530542938There are hundreds if not thousands of those mods
>>530542993What are you talking about. Carol told me Noelle is very excited to see me for the festival. I think you bricked your save
>>530543129her dad also approves
>>530543170Why? He's pretty reasonable
>>530543119>"There are hundreds if not thousands of those mods... in my brain. The SJWs have infiltrated my mind!"
>>530543073Orson Scott Card is a self-hating gay, so it makes sense his fellow gays would enjoy his works
>>530543245no he fucking sucks, the first secret boss of the game should not be that difficult, Spamton NEO was significantly easier for me
>>530543258How the fuck you gonna headcanon cope about a real person? You could just not read the book written by the guy who wants to kill you. Come the fuck on.
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>>530543074The peak of modern medicine
>>530541926When one is in good health, we instead pray for those who are not. Those in good health are blessed, and if they should lose it, then it was god's plan.
Or something like that. I stopped being christian well over a decade ago.
Genuinely what happened? We all used to agree that fanfic is disrespectful cringe. Authors used to rightfully threaten legal action over this shit. But now it's somehow become completely accepted. Disgusting.
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Undyne/Alphys actually works and makes sense though
People seem to not want to admit that Undyne is a retard that deserves nothing better and Alphys wants Asgore but has to settle for pussy because she is a loser, its two losers ending up together, its actually great for people like me that hate lesbians as it shows how pathetic it is.
Was this unintended? Probably but If Suselle happens and at this point I really dont think it will in either route it will still look like that, making lesbos look terrible
Mods are niggers
>>530543073Protip: you don't have to be ideologically aligned with the creator of a work of fiction to enjoy it.
>>530543572>I really dont think it willWhat makes you say that?
>>530543308Thinking about it.. with the Dess plotline and the chapter 4 egg stuff, on top of the Toriel variable thing with the sprite obscuring things in the sword games, Omori really was the game Toby was worried about Deltarune being too similar too wasn't it
>>530537760 (OP)Kris hates the soul getting attatched to Noelle because part of the grand scheme is to get it to transfer over into Susie.
By getting attatched to Noelle it makes it likely it will choose her down the line as its new vessel,perhaps causing some horrible event for her.
>>530543634Everything weve seen so far and how there is zero chemistry. And like I said at this point if it happens it will look terrible no matter what.
>>530543572Undyne wasted all her life training to fight 5 year olds
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>>530543676The plot of Omori at the time of that tweet was completely different from what the final plot ended up being by the time it released, so if he was talking about Omori, it would be in a very superficial sense (small town, fantasy world, etc) and not about the plot twist.
>>530543546>disrespectfulBy that logic all fangames, fanart, mods, and even theories are disrespectful
Fuck that people should go wild even if most fanfiction is cringe I want them to make it anyways because one in a million I will really enjoy
>>530543891How do you play UT/DR and still not understand the absolute cosmic fucking strength humans have in comparison to monsters
>/v/ thread gets deleted
>Instantaneous MUH LESBIANS
>>530543967You are talking to the anon who regularly has meltdowns over his hatred of theories. Stop feeding him (You)s now.
>>530543546Who is 'we'? Toby made a career out of homestuck and earthbound fanfiction bro
>>530544105Oh I didnt know that, what an idiot.
>>530544087I haven't browsed /v/ in years, though.
>>530543617He literally wants you dead! You buck-broken retard.
>>530543929huh, maybe not then
what the fuck was he talking about if that's the case
>>530543992>Be a toddler>Walk into the Underground>Fall and land headfirst on your still yet-to-be-hardened baby skull, crushing your brain>Be a human so it's okay>See a talking flower>Rip it out the ground with the strength of hercules>He tries to reload his save>But nothing happened>The last thing he hears is incoherent baby babbling, gurgling, and giggling>Clap your hands because you saved the underground
>>530541576>Anons niwadays do not even know how hospitals workGrim
>>530544087Sorry I had that reply already typed out when the mods went full retard and didnt want it to go to waste
Feel free to ignore it, I got it out of my chest which is all I wanted,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LEM50mnmdw
>>530543967>By that logic all fangames, fanart, mods, and even theories are disrespectfulYes. Either you are respecting the art you are engaging with, or you aren't. Simple as.
>>530544161'We' is the Internet. Seriously, did Anne Rice die and that suddenly gave everyone mental permission to be a bunch of cringelords? Fucking hell.
>>530543992Undyne wasted all her life training to job to a 5 year old
>>530543715That emo child just doesn't understand my GENIUS plan. It's not like i'm doing it because I want that doe pussy, nope.
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>>530542571MUH DESS, they will always chose dess
>530544438
You are very stupid.
>>530544328Stop slurping on nazi cock, you spineless cuck.
>>530544161>Toby made a career out of homestuck and earthbound fanfiction broYes and he should be publicly hanged for it, but this world rewards the devil and those who follow his teachings. You're not making a goos case for yourself, sir.
>>530543929The plot twist was set in from the start. it's why omori boy was always sad in the original comics.
why is it called GLACEIR instead of GLACIER?
>>530544248Its funny because everyone in that picture is a leftist
>>530544506Says the fanfiction apologist. Go back to DeviantArt.
So I guess this is just real bait hours huh
best to post your fave cute ship to pass the time
>>530544668The answer is always the same funny reference to that quirky game.
>>530544534I will make an intervention, I won't allow him to have a fucking gacha addiction
>>530544758I'm assuming you mean earthbound but what the fuck is it referencing from it, I don't remember that
Reminder Toby loves fanfiction, Gerson literally told you to write chapter 7 .
>>530543546>"I-I-I d-d-don't think t-t-this is v-v-very respectful">His lips were trembling between heavy breaths. He wore on his face that this experience was new for him>"d-d-don't you t-t-think authours have the r-r-r-right to how their property is used">He was still mumbling to himself but more quietly now, as the palm of my hand gently milked his cock through his trousers.>"l-l-legally speaking I-I-I-">The sweet smack of my lips against his finally took the last words out of his mouth. A wave of relaxation ran down anon's body as he surrendered the play of resistance>My left hand ran down his waist and to the zip on his crotch before sliding it loose. His cock burst from the opening like a spring>I slid my mouth down his neck and to his groin. Anon's expression betrayed his silence but at this point his breathing was too heavy to speak>The taste was stale and musky, and the feeling of his member in my mouth completely overwhelmed my senses>I rolled his head across my tongue before sliding it down my throat, feeling a jolt run across anon's body as I did so>Faster yet faster I ran up and down his shaft as I gently caressed his balls. At times he would seem to place his hand on my head as if to resist, only to limply fall back into his chair and capitulate completely>Through his groans and spasms I could tell that anon was close. Finally, when it was time I ran my tongue up his shaft and across his frenulum, the sensation immediately causing him to paint my face with cum>Finally I stood up, leaving him a wet mess spread across his chair. I licked my lips and then stood up to leave, anon's white gift still spread across my head. His eyes were closed, so I chose to leave him only with the words:>"And next time, don't be such a faggot"
>>530544770Cocksleeve.
>>530544864Reminder that Toby is a retarded hack.
>>530544864And that suddenly makes it okay? Christ, you people.
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>>530543401Jevil was kinda hard, actually, but not unreasonably hard. Knight is just pure bullshit. No, I don't care that professional Touhou players did it in two tries. This is Deltarune, and nothing prepared us for that difficulty spike.
>>530544858https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQIVQUyEAy8
No I meant a generic quirky game, in this case is Brandish.
Now that the dust has settled. We're all in agreement that the final prophecy is that Susie is going to die, right?
Alright, good.
>>530544909>>530544926Toby Fox is brown so this shouldn't surprise you.
>>530545013I think that's a very stupid reading of susie's actions and emphasis
>>530543546>muh disrespectgo back.
>>530544909We love hacks here.
>>530544926Yes Toby is our god here.
>>530544976The Knight is supposed to be near impossible so that you lose. You only get some additional dialogue if you beat him
>>530545013Susie cares about her friends more than herself so I doubt it
>>530545108>We love hacksyou've never played one
>Toby is our godBlatant blasphemy and worshipping of false idols nets you a place in hell.
>>530545013Trio is going to die, yes.
Carol's anime reviews channel
>>530545104>"I don't care about art. As far as I'm concerned it only exists as a toy for me to play with."Kill yourself.
>>530545013Fuck off. Nobody cares about your schizo theories.
>>530545270>Carol's [headcanon]
>lgbt fans just talk about how they wish they could molest their siblings
bravo toby
>>530545374Australia is not canon to Deltarune's world.
Non-binary is a made up mental illness for extra special snowflakes.
Stop forcing it on Kris
>>530544668Brandish reference because Toby is autistic
Chapter 5 will be a NIHON SUGOI chapter, carol will appear in the dark world.
>>530545270I hate that this bitch won't teach me Holiday family ninja style.
>>530545403Yeah, retard. That poster is every single gay person to ever exist. You caught them
>>530545013Either they all die or get exiled
>>530545013Ralsei and Castle Town are sealed away, Susie either dies or gets trapped in the dark forever, Kris is left SOULless which may or may not kill them. Everyone gets fucked.
>>530545013>PredictableProphecy says Susie is going to die, she has to cope with it. Also Suselle was there literally just so it's more tragic.
>Could be kinoProphecy says Ralsei is going to die, argument over whether Ralsie is a real person and deserves to survive intensifies. Susie wonders what will even happen to the dark worlds afterwards if this is a condition.
>100% guaranteed kino but also most unlikelyProphecy says Kris is going to die, Susie will freak out even harder when it turns out Kris has been playing double agent all along and she doesn't know if it was to die, to avoid death, or for something else entirely for which death would make up for the lies.
Why do alleged "fans" always fight so hard against canon? This is why fanfic is so gross. If you hate the story so much, why are you even engaging with it at all? Fuck off and go play something else instead of trying to "fix" it.
>>530545558seems like a constant thing in delta /vg/
>>530545534She taught Kris everything already. Kris getting tangled in Rudy's lights was a training accident. She also taught Kris to sneak up on Noelle.
>>530545403Thank god I'm straight so I only want to rape Kris non-incestuously
>>530545521>>530545708Not canon, Kris loves their TRUE sibling, Dess.
I would post the art I made last night but it doesn't seem like the only 2 people who'd be into it would be in the thread right now, so I think I'll wait
>>530545558You caught me, I'm Johnny LGBT and I love Krisriel and De/ll/e
>>530545762or you know you guys could talk about the game. i can see now after coming her why every mod kills Deltarune threads outside of /vg/
Human, I know you're incests
>>530545593>Back to the Chrono Trigger analogy the protagonist dies but his friends make a copy of his body in the moment of his sacrifice>In the true ending Susie kills your Vessel instead thus letting Kris survive
>>530545895Kris is a character from the video game Deltarune (2018) (2021) (2025)
i thought the mods were just assholes, but you people are completely fucked in the head with this pedo faggot shit
I hope the prophecy isn't that Kris is going to die or Susie has to kill Kris.
Because if it is, Susie running away from Toriel's home at the end just because Sans and Toriel made her uncomfortable is the biggest fucking bitch move in the entire game and would mean Susie will abandon Kris when the stakes are down because even right after being informed Kris is on death row it takes that little to leave.
The S rank rooms were unironically my favourite part of 3/4
Absolute fucking kino atmosphere
>>530546007Anon... Play Chapter 4 until the end instead of closing it.
Why do alleged "fans" always fight so hard against prophecy? This is why weird route is so gross. If you hate the one ending so much, why are you even engaging with it at all? Fuck off and go play something else instead of trying to find "freedom" .
>>530546118SWORD is a criminally underrated track
>>530545993What about lts update (2024)?
>>530545895The situation on /v/ is different, and right now we're having a very prolific threadshitter off-meds and attentionwhore following the example so it's fucking awful right now but you're normally able to discuss the game here
>>530546118I had to wait 40 minutes on Steam Forums after asking if this is NoMercy/Weird Route thing. No one answered, so I had to PROCEED blindly.
>>530546195Except the weird route is the one that aligns the most closely with the prophecy, retard
>>530545983If this game was as good as Chrono Trigger you could beat the Knight and end the game early
>>530546195>thinks breaking the prophecy is as easy as a little rapeEnjoy the prophecy: things are slightly worse edition
>>530546118Funniest shit how it's the sole good example of how to properly make a videogame creepypasta
>>530546280oh i doubt that. It seems like these are the exact types that come here for the game with pronouns. 100% these threads need to be contained and deleted when on /v/
>>530544087lesbians are built for big transgirl cock
>>530546391We are getting this cat raped at the end
>>530546329I always thought it was retarded theory. Both main route AND weird route are the intended prophecy. It's just a difference in interpretation.
>>530543715Whoever made this edit is going to hell, Iโll make sure of it.
sweaty tasque manager butt
>>530545686>Absolute cinema It's actually Noelle that has to die, but Susie misinterpreted it as herself and when the time comes, she is second guessing saving her since she doesn't want to get sacrificed herself in her place.
Meanwhile in the weird route, (you) will use up Noelle to become a fucking God himself
>>530546165?
What do you mean?
If you mean that Kris considered jumping out the window, it's not like that means anything from Susie's perspective. She doesn't even see Kris through it.
>>530542425"And then... Kris woke up WITHOUT LEGS..."
>>530546684will this happen in the game
>>530546609Susie stayed in the rain, lurking near your house for god's knows how many hours. It is opposite of "running away".
>>530546007>>530546609wow you're really stupid
>>530542637Souls doesn't control bodies. The player can control it using the red soul.
>>530545686I think last is more likely. Ralsei wouldn't cover things up as much if it was just him dying when he's been easing us into forgetting him. Susie death is possible but with the trend of Susie's character growth and how she tells Kris they won't let it happen it came off more as protecting others and not self preservation.
Berdly will be playable in chapter 5.
>>530546730I asked Toblerone and he said yes
>>530546684Damn Kris is like 4'11
>>530546195I only play the weird route because I like whatever Toby (un)intentionally wrote between Kris and Noelle and I know I'm not going to get much of it anymore on the normal route because of muh tragic prophecy and lesbians
>>530546441>>530546508So did you guys just not play chapter 3 at all? We're told it's based on Dragon Blazers which is based on the OG prophecy and I sure as hell don't see fucking Susie freezing people and birds during the normal route.
"Recently, I've noticed a downward spiral when it comes to Deltarune and Undertale Theories. It seems all people are interested in are Dess, FRIEND and even Gaster after a decade.
I firmly believe my game's community should focus on the theories that are truly important, for example; which character has the fattest ass?"
- Toby's famous Chapter 3 + 4 release Fangamer Interview, 2025
>Asriel comes back
>He's one pixel taller than Ralsei
>Horns are the same size as Ralsei
>No muscles, no fat, no tattos
Your reaction?
I want to have ungodly amounts of homosexual sex with the faggot goat until he gives me children.
>>530547178I still don't know who the hell Friend is or where he came from in the community.
>>530547194You can't your vessels will be they/them or she/her in the weird route.
chapter 3 was kind of nothing, does anyone else feel this way?
Tenna and the Knight were the only significant parts of the chapter, in my honest opinion. The zelda sections were cool but I think it dragged on
>>530547275I think you need to play the chapter again because it sounds like you weren't paying attention at all
>>530547113Basically Weird Route is jumping from one rails to other rails. Not a true freedom.
Ralsei basically says that we've not deviated from the prophecy yet in ch4 in the main route.
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>>530547113Did you play chapter 4 at all?
>>530547351That's a pretty huge thing to just 'change', retard.
>Knight.
>Kill everyone in this thread.
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This to me suggests that something non-prophetic is going on with the weird route
>>530547304Some amount of time. We don't know how long it was from Kris ascending the stairs to Kris tossing and turning.
>>530547389How did Gerson's entire purpose in the story blow past you
>>530547297No more USAID means no more Kalamatale
>>530547041But to get the whole story of Kris and Noelle's relationship which you are abusing to pull off your weird route antics you'll probably have to play the normal route which will have all the big lore dumps
>>530547275I loved Tenna for being unable to hide his anxiety. He's by far my favorite boss character. Him trying to give Kris a fun time without the violent bits is where the real depth is hidden.
>>530547113>all the youth are playing a christfag video gamegrim
whos the June Egbert of deltarune?
stop trying to alter timelines
>>530547458See the title. Bead was torn off, but instead of going free, it is still on a path
>>530547275It's a neverending barrage of facts about Kris's backstory, personality and motivation and when it's not that it's some of the best Susie and Ralsei bits in the game
>>530547275no you're right. the tennafags will insist it was good but it kinda wasn't. there's a reason toby didn't release it on its own and it needed chpt4 to lean on.
List of deltarune characters that are stupid: everyone except Jevil
List of deltarune characters that are cool: Jevil, because he doesn't cry about his problems or pretend to be edgy
>>530547297We got the Genocide ending
>/v/ thread gets deleted
>/utg/ suddenly filled with dullards and speedreaders
Oooh I am nooooticing
>>530547467Well I can fucking guarantee you if Toby's intention was that Susie spent hours down there, he'd have actually made it known somehow.
>>530547892And how would you know that
>>530547892Tell them to go to /vrpg/
>>>/vrpg/3790867>>>/vrpg/3790867>>>/vrpg/3790867
>>530547568Who's the what
>>530547219Creepy face that first appears in the basement in Queen's Mansion, notable for its first appearance being called IMAGE_FRIEND/DEVICE_FRIEND in the files instead of the normal naming scheme for other sprites and objects, a trait shared with files related to the Goner Maker sequence, the Chapter select and the Chapter 1 game over.
Said face has the recurring pink and yellow visual motif shared with Spamton, the Odd Controller, Gerson and his description of Chapter 5 and Cat Mike.
The face directly reappears in Ralsei's explanations of Darkners, a hidden area in the Sword Route, the Mantle fight, one of the Mike's minigames and one of the shrouded areas in Chapter 4.
>>530547892/v/ actually talks about the game but i can see why they delete them
Does anyone play Deltarune on Steam Deck? I'm getting some judder on mine. Any way to fix it?
>>530547985Anything appearing during the Mike fight is basically a confirmation that it is a red herring. Pink-Yellow means nothing. Cats mean nothing. Smiles mean nothing. FRIEND means nothing. Cat Petterz means nothing.
>>530548290Worked on my machine but I haven't played the latest patch yet
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Should I:
>write an outline for the serious, SFW fic I have plotted out in my head
or
>write comfy, silly fluff
or
>write self-indulgent pornography
Choose ONE.
>>530548480kris, susie and ralsei also mean nothing
only dess is important
>>530548480So when it actually turns out to be relevant are you going to get mad about it being a retcon and Toby taking a knee to insane fans
>>530548528write silly fluffy self indulgent pornography
>>530548528Which characters
I can guarantee that Gaster, in fact, does not have yellow-and-pink eyes, and FRIEND is not a Knight.
>Kris and Ralsei both have complexes about eating
This means something probably
>>530547524Chapter 4 has tons, but sadly most of it is missable. Weird route at least shows you everything it has available even if it's at cost of playing deltarune's genocide route
>>530548716friend is a cat nya nya
>>530547113That was the weird route in Dragons Blazer only Noelle saw, not the normal game.
AND THEN THE COOL AND POWERFUL DR. GASTER ACTIVATED HIS FLAMING PINK AND YELLOW EYES AND SAID "THE DOCTOR HAS COME TO SEE YOU" AND HE PULLED OUT THE HYPER-GASTER BLASTER AND BEGAN TO FIGHT WITH CHARA WHO FULLY TOOK OVER KRIS'S BODY AFTER THE END OF SNOWGRAVE
>>530548716Well shucks man I coulda told ya that myself
>>530547985Don't forget the lost girl in UNUSED text hears scratching. Some speculate that it is a cat scratching, i.e. FRIEND(s).
>>530548460Did you make that?
>>530547542But enough about Undertale
Cat Friend? More like... Dog Enemy... Enemy dog... Enedog... Endog... Endogenemy...
>>530548861Susie is fucking stupid for not tapping immediately.
>>530548929AAAH IM GOING INSAAAAAANE
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>>530547275I think Toby spent a good 2 years just constantly redesigning chapter 3 to get it to work. It just doesn't flow well and it has the most cut content.
>>530548984>Susie is fucking stupid [...]
>>530548929>>530549026>Endogeny. noun ยฐGrowth from within.>FRIEND inside me
>>530548984>Susie is fucking stupidYes
>>530547660It's kind of lame to just have Tenna look at the camera and ask a blank faced Kris "remember when" a dozen times. There's better ways Kris's backstory could have been given.
do you guys support the Kris loses his hand theory?
>>530548929Add that to the corkboard
>>530549291Yeah, I support the Kris loses their hand theory.
>>530538306Her helmet makes her look bald.
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>>530549291I sort of do.
hand can mean a lot of things, but kris has some peculiar reactions.
the shadow crystals sometimes show a different reality, sometimes just one reality that is to be, some places we were or going to be...
i feel having all these shards together will make something big click.
>>530547782Gloria is my fav
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>>530549249i think the legend of zelda sections could have been replaced with literally anything else
>>530544289funny, but the human strength relies on intent and malice. a baby has neither
>>530549525they're so sexy.
>>530549291I'm ambivalent on it
I know there's some weird hand shit going on but whether it's symbolic or literal and if literal a vision from the past or from the future or from an alternate timeline is too ambiguous for me to make a call
>>530549291Yes it will be incredibly kino when Susie learns piano so she can play with him
Why is it called a friend if it doesn't give me a blowjob, unlike ralsei?
>>530549507Peak outfits, really nice
>>530549507Kris is so lucky...
>>530549525The real reason Asriel has taken so long to come home is meeting other humans and grappling with the realization kris is just a pyschopath and a retard
>>530549291No, I think the seeing through your hand line indicates that in the alternate timeline/universe we can see through the glass, that Kris didn't exist in it at all, with either the vessel or some other human kid as a replacement, or rather that Kris and the version of the game we're playing is a replacement of what was supposed to be.
>>530549729because he's friend not fuck buddy
>>530547275I'm not a "Tennafag" but when the 3D video ended and Tenna was still in 3D, I knew I was in for kino
I get why people don't like the format but I love the chapter because of how much characterization we get, especially for Ralsei. The part where he can play as Kris is really sweet and melancholy. It is thus also a good Susie chapter because of how she plays off Ralsei.
It doesn't solve a bunch of mysteries but that's okay, also it sets up our goal for the rest of the game so far which is to open the shelter and beat that deer's ass
https://youtu.be/RvJLyvrNthg
>>530549507Carol, my beloved
>>530549809>Tenna's game is just a replacement of the OGoh fuck that was a big hint for that wasn't it
>>530549517Psychonauts writing vs Deltarune writing
>>530549845kekw i drew that, tenna is the main antagonist i felt most bad for, toby did an amazing job characterising him
>Darkners feel an innate sense of purpose and fulfillment when they serve Lightners because it's their entire reason for being
>Spamton is a selfish little shitbag because he wants to be a BIG SHOT, not a servant, and hasn't felt genuine happiness in his entire life
>only finds redemption and peace once he gives in and lets himself be used by the party as armor
What did Toby mean by this?
>>530550036i don't know.
he made tenna kinda like queen.
sort of forgetable.
i kind of feel nothing for those two.
if tenna was a flavor, it'd be cardboard and queen is wet cardboard with a little sugar sprinkles ontop.
>>530550180no one can choose who they are in this world
>>530550180Helping people is humanity's nature. By helping, darkers become more "human" and therefore, feel more happy. It's a layered thing idk.
Throwing philosophical shit on the wall and seeing what sticks.
>>530550180The Jew (Spamton) should know his place is to serve the White Man (Lightners)
>>530550337Asriel is so fucking lucky
The dess that must be followed.
The sus that must be not followed.
>>530550212I liked Tenna because he is definitely the most "darkner" darkner we've got. He is aware he is just an object, an OLD tv, and he fears being thrown away the most, as he justifies his entire existence on entertaining people and making then smile and laugh. Tenna's story is about what happens when you cling onto something that's long gone, and it's not bad to look back, but it's bad to wish to stay there. I honestly think it's kinda adorable he didn't wish to be all powerful or anything like that, but just to be useful and liked by someone, to still got what it takes to fulfill his role as an old CRT. I found his secret dialogue where he says that he just wants to see Kris "smile and laugh again", to "just be told if he did anything right" really sad imo.
>>530550331helping people is not humanity's nature, see how selfish most people act during disaster and calamity.
however: helping people is an ancient survival strategy because monke togezza stronk.
those rose-tinted glasses look good on you.
>>530550337Deltarune is literally an anagram of noelle
Why is SWORD/MANHOLE/TennaRPG a Zelda clone? Why not just make it an RPG?
Building a Zelda clone probably is why it took 5 years. Even the lame puzzles are something that takes months of work for a single indie dev.
>>530549845People would be willing to rate ch3 higher if it was released alone.
>People wouldn't bitch as much about S-ranking, because there's not another chapter right after this they want to do instead of replaying >Likewise people would bitch less about the Knight being so hard and gatekeeping the shadow crystal, since they wouldn't be advancing into ch4 right after likely getting immediately destroyed in that fight >The Shelter Key segment and "you couldn't find your hand" secret would be the main things people talk about for years. "WHO THE FUCK IS ERAM BROS">Ramb would be the new ultimate Glup Shitto "he's teaming up with FRIEND and ERAM in ch6, trvst the plan">The ending cliffhanger with the 3 key codes of different symbols, followed by the door opening and cutting to black, would genuinely boil people's brains >There would in general be a greater amount of appreciation in the fandom for how packed with little details, secrets and optional interactions that ch3 is
>>530547458>Dark Bead>Broken off, but still locked
>>530549952Considering that the Mantle game follows a genocide/weird route with Noelle and the unused shadow crystal text in chapter 3 (there might've been a cut light world segment in the middle of the night between reaching the shelter and heading back to the house to seal the fountain that was cut for time and for being too similar to chapter 4's late night walk of shame back to the Dreemur house), I think there is definitely either an original or alternate route that resembles the weird route the game was "supposed" to take, which involves Kris not existing, Susie not becoming nice, and Undyne frozen in ice.
The last one is particularly interesting because that could imply in this other version there was no Roaring Knight fight at the end of chapter 3, and instead the heroes fought Undyne who ended up getting the Snowgrave treatment.
>>530547473His purpose is that SUSIE can change it, you actual retard. Not that Dragon Blazers is THAT big of a difference.
>>530550558Ignorance is bliss. I'm proud to wear them.
>>530550337Kris is so fucking raped
>>530550627I'm actually pretty sure using GameMaker made that whole section very feasible to implement
>>530550558>monke togezza stronk.anon slowly piecing together why human beings evolved empathy, which often manifests as helping others without immediate gain reward
Owning a TV is like having a jew in the living room, said Toriel Dreemurr/Undertale
>>530550180>selfish and greedy egomaniac who thinks he's the most specialist strongest person in the world just wanted to be used like a cheap toy all this time and falls in line like the bitch he is once he gets what he wantsHe and Tenna really are made for each other.
>>530550627The Zelda clone isn't really much different from the rest of the game if at all
The thing that took the most time was probably getting Susie and Ralsei working
>>530548903nope this guy did
https://x.com/C00Lo7_/status/1942830148564505014?t=f1g6Sd5Af9vpPpWZsmxmMw&s=19
>>530550635>People would be willing to rate ch3 higher if it was released alone. no people would bitch about the minigames being shit for years
So do you think the game will allow us to talk to Seam and receive object crafted from five shadow crystals in Chapter 5?
- Castle Town and Seam will be available, Seam will give crafted item immediately (or after boss battle)
- Castle Town and Seam will be available, Seam will take 5 Shadow Crystals and will tell us which item he will craft, but tells us to wait
- Castle Town and Seam will be available, Seam will take 5 Shadow Crystals, but will act all mysterious about which item he will craft, and tells us to wait
- Castle Town will not be available, credits happen before we could get to the school after getting Shadow Crystal, or Susie does not allow us to go to school
- Castle Town will be available, but someone has attacked the Seam's shop and he is missing!
>>530550521that does not necessarily make him the most darkner but rather the most self-aware of all.
no matter what you say about tenna's moral character ends up being right, because tenna deeply cared about how the divorce affected him, however it comes off as selfish again since he also seems to morose how no one watches him anymore.
tenna rightfully feels abandoned by his masters and in his desperation felt the need to lash out against them.
he consistently guilt-tripped them into playing his dumbass games too.
wether or not he is just pathetic or manipulative is something i am not an expert on.
poor cathode cuck.
>>530541791this may be the hottest kris image i've seen I don't like that
>>530547275Play it again with CH4's context in mind. The Zelda sections are a bit long but the ERAM encounter makes it all worth it in my view.
>>530547631>timeloop theory is true>for some reason every time Kris loops, Sans gets more efficient on fucking his mom
>>530550981i'm not sure tenna has enough brain cells to conciously guilt people
If Darkners are only given life by the Fountains and exist as ordinary items without it, how do Queen, King, Tenna and all the others have years of personal history with one another even though they've only existed for less than a week?
>>530550558During disaster and calamity people generally do not act selfish and help each other. Just reading about how Yugoslav multi ethnic/religious communities held together and refused to sacrifice each other during the various genocides really disproves a lot of cynical assumptions about "human nature".
I like to think that Spamton wrote those valentines letters after ch3.
When he found out Tenna's not dead and kept the pipis, he started sending out a bunch of spam mail to random recipients hoping one of them would reach Tenna.
>>530550558Ok Rick & Morty fan, did you remember to eat your breakfast?
>>530550956I think it'll be #4, we're heading towards the Kris/Knight reveal and there's no way that's not ending messily
>>530551118Except for the times he does just that to get Susie to feel bad for him so the gang will keep playing his games.
>>530550823it's not empathy.
empathy is a novel concept which implies charitability for the sake of charity.
it evolved FROM "there is strength in numbers" to "man if i were in his position i would piss tears if he gave me something to eat, i hadn't had solid food in 3 days"
some people can't even perceive breakfast, but we evolved an excess of sympathies because we like to think of others as possible extensions of ourselves.
however things are getting worse and sympathy and empathy becomes a luxury once more.
>>530538960This is objectively pretty low weird levels.
Dess has blue fur.
Kris is blue because he wants to be like Dess.
>>530551119Ever watch Inception, and how time moves differently when the characters go into deeper and deeper dreams? Just use that logic.
>>530551334Why do people think this was Dess and not Noelle?
I get Dess watched MTV with Kris but still. That one ch4 NPC says they used to babysit Kris & Noelle
>>530551334Was Ramb talking about Noelle or Dess?
>>530551334If Dess was old enough to be a teen at the time, would Ramb still call her a kid? The "are you two" line suggests he thinks they could be a couple, which would make more sense as Noelle as that girl.
Alright, guys: Hand over your cutest Ralseis! This is not a drill!
>>530550956The first one. It's blatantly obvious Seam is the final crystal holder and he'll only give it up if you defeat him as a final test.
>>530549525Are they supposed to be parallels to Frisk and Chara?
>>530551463They're retarded and also forgot about Noelle seeing faces in plug sockets, which explains why Plugboys + Ramb exist in the first place.
>>530551118exactly what
>>530551253 has said.
he tried to guilt-trip everyone the very first second when susie was a bit aggro on ralsei for denying himself a personality, dreams ,wishes, an ego of his own.
susie is forcing ralsei to go full on cogito ergo sum.
>>530551163wrong number.
>>530549809There's one problem with that: two of the glass' visions involve monsters interacting with Kris: Susie glares at him, Noelle is close and whispers to him.
>>530551463Chapter 1 and 2 Fountains were apparently created by the Knight and create Darkners based on this playtime, and Noelle is probably not the Knight
Queen's baseball stuff
Kris seems to have preferred hanging out with Dess over Noelle going by the blog post where they would play with her for a bit and then leave to go play piano
It's not decisive evidence but I think it leans more towards Dess than Noelle
>>530551559Ralsei deployed, will be there soon
>>530551719You know, the fact that Noelle went over to the Dreemur house to play pretend and she still had the audacity to say she and Kris weren't really friends during the scene in Dess' bedroom makes her even more of a jerk.
>>530551850It says "You" which makes it a little ambiguous, it could also be seeing through somebody else's eyes
I don't 100% buy that the Shadow Crystal world doesn't have Kris but I think it's a possibility
>>530552056>case of noelle throwing kris under the bus just to get some dragon tiddy #4F7
>>530551850Both of those lines involve the characters interacting with YOU with no mention of whether Kris is visible in them.
>>530552056Her having Kris as one of her desktop wallpapers should've clued you in on that as well.
>>530552271Then (Your) hand should be visible, no?
>>530549525>>530551704 I like the detail of Frisk using sign language
>>530551463Because dess fags think literally everything is dess, she might as well be the only character. They can't even read between the lines and see that the dess plotline is going to be a negative one.
>>530552056>>530552173>>530552306Are you bad faith retards still misinterpreting that scene? She's saying she's not sure that KRIS considers them friends anymore because Kris basically started ghosting her at some point. Even as early as chapter 1 she's trying to reconnect with Kris by being his project partner and she's happy when Kris considers them friends.
I get you people have probably never had a close friend suddenly just drop you and effectively vanish out of nowhere one day for no explained reason but it's extremely confusing for the other person and they're left wondering things like if they were ever really friends.
>>530547275I think it was a lot of fun. On my first playthrough I thought it was okay, but the jokes and set pieces were great. I liked more on my 2nd playthrough, just because I finally saw all the hidden shit.
We got lore tidbits from Ramb, ERAM, Tenna. We even got to see the true power of Rouxls Kaard. And if you're a Spamtonfag, the devs and writers made sure you were still eating good.
I don't understand how people could rate it worse than the barebones that is Chapter 1.
Kind of a weird question but did Deltarune normalize human x anthro ships?
>>530552537>"she is trying to reconnect with kris">everyone is about to die because of queen>"L-LEAVE SUSIE ALONE!"i would rethink my friendship with such a person.
>>530551334That does not explain Spamton-Tenna interactions.
>>530552056She likes Kris a lot but thinks Kris doesn't care about her like that and it would've been presumptuous to say that they were
>>530551119Because their characterizations and life experiences are fake. They aren't real.
>>530552173Another one, Noelle directly asks Kris to let her and Susie have some alone time instead of finding her phone.
It may not be who you want, but this is the final boss of Weird Route.
>>530552689She literally thinks its a dream and still isn't sure what Kris's deal is anyways and doesn't think it's really them regardless.
>>530552529I believe in Kris and Dess playtime, it just makes sense. I also believe Kris and Dess had negative influence on each other, feedback loop into oblivion.
>>530549469>>530549364>>530549080>>530548505correct me if i'm forgetting some merch drop or alarm clock dialogue or something, but to my knowledge toby has never once called any of the boss monsters goats. i admire his dedication to the satanic chimera mimigi thing he's got going on.
>>530552806i am glad she asked nicely after treating me like garbage.
she might be the female equivelant of berdly.
>>530544248You do realize that image shows a foolish false premise right?
Deltarune is Gaster's mod of the "original game" and the Shadow Crystals show you the events of the "original game".
He made it because he thought Toby was a massive fucking hack fraud.
>>530552689Queen specifically names Susie when crushing them you aspie
>>530552693Spamton and tenna relationship are based on lightners anon. Spamton's puppetscarf links to december, and noelle straight-up recognizes the glasses.
>>530552768People keep saying this but what about the darkner in chapter 4 that gives you the door lock code because he knows it's what's written on him? That might make sense if it was the OG church dark world but it's Susie's version. She sure as hell doesn't know what the code is, so it doesn't make sense that the fire hydrant would retain that. Therefor there must be more to Darkners then just what the creator's know / experienced.
>>530550180Darkners are like Pokemon, they enjoy their enslavement
>>530552808The final boss of weird route is ralsei in his true form
>>530553025>Cattenheimer dad says Asriel will become a "big shot" at college like how Spamton hides away to become NEO on weird route What the fuck. What is Asriel gonna be like when he gets home
>>530550956Probably the 4th one, but I would prefer to get the last crystal during the dark world, give it to Seam at the end of the chapter, and then get jumpscared with a second secret boss fight against Seam to prove myself worthy of the PureCrystal.
>>530552806>>530552984>asking your friend to give you some alone time to make a move on your crush is throwing them under the busI'm convinced you people have just never had a friend ever.
>>530553025if this ends up being even remotely accurate and dess just wore stupid novelty glasses i'm going to punch toby in the mouth
>>530553021actually checked.
you're right.
but its not like she can't see ralsei, berdly, kris in the same vice grip.
surely its okay to forget about those.
Hey cuties ,kisses to all of my pretty wives<3 lets all crack asgore
>>530553193Bros before does.
>>530550982You like submissive men, don't you?
>>530552956Do you need a weatherman to tell you when it's raining outside, anon?
>>530553049Kris already knew the code, he goes to church regularly and their mom is in the choir
>>530553231>actually checked.>you're right.i accept your concession
>>530553224They're Asriel's glasses, which we can guess Asriel wears because Susie thinks the photo of Asriel is Ralsei. Asriel is majoring in business CONFIRMED
>>530553231The point is that Queen is using the threat of hurting Susie to control Noelle, so Noelle specifically rebukes what Queen says because she is standing up to her.
This mirrors the situation between Carol and Susie in ch4.
It wouldn't make as much sense if Queen called out crushing Kris, because actual Carol is not willing to "use Kris against" Noelle.
>>530553424>Kris already knew the codeKris didn't make the fountain, retard. Susie did. Why would her version of it know it?
>>530544890Writing this peak can still be written!!?
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>>530553193gay ship egomaniac versus straight ship egomaniac dynamic is the new sprite cranberry.
>faggotshippers oblivious to obvious character flaws at the behest of their ship>straightshippers are specifically abusive to make theirs work.SUSIE IS MINE, cuckelle.
>>530540103Closest is with Spamton
https://youtube.com/watch?v=oPjALU0pOh4
>>530541538To iterate on this guys point, when gerson asks susie about the ending she'd choose she says she wouldnt have one, its better if it just keeps going, im too dumb to tie the symbolism together but it's certainly there
>>530553224Spamton isn't december you brainrotten retard, he's the character manipulated and taken advantage of by december. What the hell do you think the puppetscarf is?
>>530553181You've already seen what he's become. knight
>>530552056That girl was Dess.
>>530553421Theyre not goats, Asgore and Azzy will have big lion manes and not gay goat beards
>>530553510>they'll be safeI'm so utterly convinced Kris already knows the full prophecy and it's just (You) who hasn't learned it by now.
>>530553193She did both actually
>>530553397Can you imagine how hard Kris got when she said this
>>530553435get equipped, idiot.
It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing with Kris and Noelle
Maybe they're both kind of messed up over the Dess thing and could've done more to try and stay connected and maybe Noelle is being a little selfish about asking Kris for help get with Susie and maybe Kris is a little bit insane for trying to beat you to death with a hockey stick so you won't ruin the epic prank the Knight has prepared for Susie instead of explaining how they really feel to her
>>530551551>The "are you two" line suggests he thinks they could be a coupleHe's asking "Are you two still friends?" or something similar, hence why he follows it up with "It's alright, everyone changes."
>>530553697I was honestly shocked Toby put this in
>>530553481Shared influence
>>530553697Is Susie supposed to have an overbite
>>530553181>Spamton tells Kris he will "[Pass my savings onto you]"This is cooking my brain, i can only read Kris & Spamton's interaction as an expy for Asriel leaving Kris now. And that's why Kris hits and kicks the machine seemingly desperate for Spamton to wake up. Because it feels like someone is leaving Kris again.
But Spamton NEO is ultimately still tethered to something, like how Asriel is tethered to Hometown and, based on the guitar strings, to Dess.
This has filled me with HOPE that Asriel has a significant part to play going forward.
>>530553791susie is bri'ish habsburg mix.
>>530553510Susie is really retarded. If Ralsei told her: "The prophecy says that eating this will kill you.", Susie would forget all about his warning as soon as Ralsei leaves the room and eat rat poison.
>>530553769Sounds like a massive cope
>>530553791she likes pulling a stupid toothy face to look intimidating
>>530553636I can't wait to argue about this for at least a year until chapter 5.
>>530552647>not human x quadruped ships>not human x plane shipsnormalfag
>>530553827Asriel is the knight
>>530553663He obviously does, yeah. If you hold up the shadow crystal in the final room he actively tries to distort it so the words change which implies he knows what's there and that it's bad.
>>530551463Because TV Time is LITERALLY the Kris and Dess show
What's unironically the most intelligent thing Susie has done in Deltarune so far? Hard mode: Not an impulsive whim that accidentally works
>>530553193It is when said friend is also the only reason at all you get to spend time with said crush, and then as reward for bringing that crush over your house, you tell them to leave and then say you're not even their friend.
Double points for Noelle clearly thinking Susie and Kris are falling for each other based on those other dialogues, which means in her mind she's actively trying to steal Susie away from the only person that actually reached out and broke her out of her shell.
Why are Susies teeth so yellow?
>>530553421i wasn't being argumentative, just making an observation
>>530554137Your brain has literally been poisoned by bitterness and shipping that you're reading malice in every little interaction.
>>530554137Why did Toby put this in the game.
>>530553827Asriel is the knight.
>>530553919>>530553481I'll concede a bit here because I want to point out that the forgotten man being in the knight fountains almost 100% confirms that the forgotten man IS the knight, because otherwise it wouldn't have those connected memories
>>530554258So I guess it's fair game if I go and cuck you irl, then?
That line Jockington says about how being Susie's friend is to be the World's enemy might be another hint for "Susie was never supposed to be a good guy."
>>530553501The plan always was to get the autists
>>530554260BECAUSE ITS FUCKING KEE-NO
>>530553886The reason why Susie had to replace Noelle in the hero #2 slot is because Noelle kept noticing all the blatant plot holes and how it's all just a Dragon Blazers fangame and harshing Gaster's vibe
>>530553181Asriel is secretly is a dropout, but is too ashamed to admit it. He got into debt by buying nice clothes for the festival.
>>530554292Is that why you've been hiding your face for years now, Tobert?
>>530554280tiny brained fluffy creacher...
>>530554260This just feels like jokes about how awkward game thing would be if you did it in real life.
>>530554118Definitely throwing the heal at Gerson as a distraction. That wasn't an impulse thing, that was Susie finally learning to fight smart.
>>530554368Jockington is the most important Lightner
>>530554260I clapped when Noelle became Cuckelle
>>530554365The fact that you think this is cucking says more about yourself than anything.
>>530550337Sheโs a Joestar.
>>530554118Solving that one puzzle in the second board
>>530554442Fuck it! Just give me Noelle. At least she would bother to check the door inside the church unlike that purple poorfag retard.
Someone needs to do a Preacher Parody with Tenna and the Mikes called โFeacherโ
>Voice of God but it's the "real" Mike/a half Angel half Devil offspring some Gaster fuckerygiving Tenna the power to command others
>Ramb (Irish forme) as Cassidy, the vampire
>Spamton as Tulip (Preacher-Tenna's fiancรฉ and someone who's good with guns, engineers things, and does dangerous jobs and heist)
I wanted the prophecy to be Susie having to kill Kris, but I don't think Susie's reaction makes sense in that context, I think she'd have shown more concern for Kris instead of being the center of Ralsei's worry and laughing it off. "The girl" dies for sure but in the true original prophecy that might have referred to Dess or Noelle.
>>530554368His lines about how Catti is to him what Susie is to Kris makes me wonder if he's actually got some secret evil plan in store for her
>>530554336Ralsei and Susie not being able to explain what the Knight was like to King is foreshadowing disguised as a bad joke, the question is if it's because the knight can make people forget their appearance or it's trying to not spoil the idea that the knight looks different to each person.
>>530554621Hey, I'm gonna guess you like your own girlfriend, which means if I ask you to introduce her to me, then I invite you both to my house, then throw you out and go with your gf to the basement or to a separate room, and I just tell her cute and romantic things and try to get her to date me, if you get mad that's just you being poisoned by bitterness, right?
>B-But Susie isn't Kris' gf!That's what Noelle thinks they're becoming. From her point of view, Susie was a pariah bully that threatened to kill Kris until they were forced to actually spend time together, they hit it off and now they're inseparable and seemingly get alone in the closet or at the diner. Noelle looks at this situation and thinks to herself "Holy shit, finally my not-actual-friend will hook me up! And if they don't, I just have to lure them in and then get rid of Kris!".
>>530554861I think it might be something as vague as "one of the heroes must sacrifice themselves" but it's either not specified which one OR they have to choose one amongst themselves
If it was just Susie dying she'd be less stressed out, but if it was Kris or Ralsei dying specifically she'd be more messed up about it to either person, but if they have to decide that turns it into a real big problem
>>530555143>I'm gonna guess you like your own girlfriendHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>530554991They were
A) fucking with king by pretending to not have an answer
and B) suffering from building symptoms (light-headedness, nausea, migraines) as a result of being near it.
I doubt remembering specific details was as important as surviving in that moment.
Are you taking a proper care of yourself, anon?
>>530555327Toby Fox has a snail trail confirmed
Why the hell was the Eggs Man in the Second Sanctuary when that's Susie's Dark World
>>530555503Susie wants to give kris her eggs
>>530555431Letting a wrist injury heal before I go back to the gym (serves as a summer vacation too while we're at it, I'll go back when August starts). Gonna do 30 minutes of bike today to keep up form though.
Do you think Fangamer will accept my proposal for new merch
>>530554368The original prophecy is actually a big reference to the classic 90s JRPG, Bahamut Lagoon, where the main character's childhood friend cucks him with one of the bad guys
>>530555197That is also a good point. The line that Ralsei ESPECIALLY wouldn't let it happen is interesting though. If one of them had to be sacrificed but they could pick, Ralsei would of course be extremely insistent that it be him.
>>530555431I feel like I'm gonna lose it.
>>530555431hell no.
i decay harder than radon gas.
Oh i'm gonna kill Toby Fox
>>530552956That's correct. They look closer to vampire demon rabbits.
>>530555431I have been for the past couple years. It greatly improved my physical and mental health
>>530555713:(
>>530555649It'll probably sell better than whatever the hell this was supposed to be
>>530550859Does that mean Tenna's "special dial" is circumcized? Poor guy...
>>530555503Because the egg man exists outside of the rules of the game.
>>530554985>"K-Kris, we've... gotta talk about this.">* What's the problem?>"Well... it's just...">"Nobody can focus while Susan's clamped onto your head!">"Aww, Berdbrain'sh jealoush of our spechial bond, Krish!">"I-No! Of course I'm not jealous! That is an affront to the learning environment!">"M-Maybe I wouldn't put it so strongly, but...">"But Teeeeach~! Krish learnsh better like thish, don't you Krish?">* Yeah, this is great.>A big drip of saliva lands on Kris' book and smudges all his work>"U-um... I mean... if it works for you, then...">"Miss Alphys! You can't just give in to their.... their DESECRATION of the classroom! Noelle! Stick up for me here!">"Huh? What was that Berdly? I'm not really paying attention right now...">"OH COME ON"
>>530555649its based. needs puzzle function though.
>>530554991So Kris is afraid of darkness, goop, antlers, bats, baseball balls, skeletons, medals.
>>530555731TOOOOBY YOU GENIUS
Will the main theme of Deltarune be better than Undertale?
Will the main theme of Deltarune be better than Theme of Laura?
>>530555860It has Nubert AND Starwalker, making it the best official merch by default
Chapter 5's egg tree will be in the light world and it will be a "forgotten" street in between that nobody can actively notice, where the forgotten man's house is. Going inside the house you'll find indications the Man was the teacher in the top left corner room of the school.
>>530555860only 3 of those characters have literally any fans.
>>530554991it's indescribable eldrich horror like lovecraft anon.
>>530555956>ah' bermbraim'sh jeloush hf rr seshel bonk krish!
>>530556128Did you forget he told us where it's going to be, Anon?
https://files.catbox.moe/fadk34.mp4
Ralsei giving Susie a piggy back ride but he's not strong enough and they keep falling over.
>>530556452why does she touch little boys
I'm banned from /v/, can I stay here with you guys?
>>530556564>posting troonjaks at 11:30 AM on a WednesdayI pity your shitty life
>>530556542Because Kris kept touching her first.
>>530556564if you suppport groomgrave, then yes.
>>530554028Wtf but /v/ told me hates Sans!
>>530555431>taking care of yourselfHaha funne
>>530555713Same
>>530556564Depends, who is your favorite Undertale and Deltarune character, and who is your least favorite Undertale and Deltarune character?
>>530556564You would probably prefer the /vrpg/ thread
It's funny how all this Dess fanart is going to become outdated in 1-3 years when her canon design gets revealed
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>>530556845its even funnier how messed up all the knight fanart will be
>Chapter 5:
>1. Noelle gets jealous of Kris and Susie because first she thought she was gonna get Susie alone to herself, but also after what happened in chapter 4 Susie is fretting all over Kris.
>2. Kris gets jealous of Noelle and Susie because they're just having a straight up date and third wheeling him ultrahard, Kris feels left aside after everything that happened in chapter 4.
>3. (Wierd route only) Susie feels jealous of Kris and Noelle because suddenly they're supertight for some reason and are third wheeling her ultrahard. Also the way they interact feels wierdly creepy to her.
>4. Actually, the festival date/hang out somehow evens out completely well between all three and none of them feel particularly left out, it's actually Berdly and/or Catti who get jealous and this event makes them become more relevant to the story.
>5. Asgore is the only one that gets jealous in Chapter 5 for obvious reasons.
Which one are you betting on?
>>530556946the voice-acting has burned itself into my conscience.
>>530556845It's like how over 4 years there were about a hundred cool Spamton animations and all of them feel empty without his ex-husband
>>530557014maybe 1
i am thinking noelles dad picks a bad time to die, based on ralsei not wanting us to go with noelle
>>530557010Rudys round buttocks...
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>>530555431every day we rot, douglath
not as much as i should, i kinda lack motivation from my life being pretty much at a standstill, especially in the social department, rest assured i still take showers and brush my teeth, that's fucking essential
>>530557014All of them at the same time except 4 because Catti will never be relevant and Berdly is too oblivious to feel jealous
>>5305570141st is possible, noelle seems full-on yandere now and might get defensive about kris.
2nd is unlikely because that's just (YOU)
3rd is the least likely scenario to happen at all in any event, because susie is such a care-free person, she wouldn't mind kris and noelle sharing a bathtub.
4th is very unlikely unless you are okay with thirdwheeling or have no feelings for anyone and don't care about the retarded gay schoolromance
5th is nearly confirmed.
>>530557014I think it's going to be lots of different jealousies all going off at once
>Noelle jealous of Kris and Susie, also feelings hurt over the Dark World secret thing>Kris jealous of Noelle and Susie, even if they try to hide it and act like it's nothing because muh Dess muh silent suffering makes me a hero>Catti jealous of Susie over the Dark Worlds, maybe over Noelle too but I don't know about this one>Berdly having his feelings hurt over the Dark World secret thing>Ralsei maybe a little bit jealous that he doesn't get to go have fun at the Festival after all>Plus of course Asgore flipping out>Maybe even Susie gets jealous about something, I don't knowEnding on Kris betraying Susie for the Knight and whatever fallout that has for our end of second act low point
>>530557364catti will be relevant because snowgrave kris is going to murder her.
>>530557141Ralsei only says that on the weird route for obvious weird route reasons. On the normal route he just doesn't want Susie to be left out.
I can't believe "try to be that dunk" ended up meaning something. Any of Jockington's insane lines could be talking about something in a future chapter and we have no way of knowing until it happens.
He's mentioned unhinging jaws twice now. What could it mean?
Would Darkners eat more if they knew it would make (YOU) happy and pay them more attention?
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>>530557502>snowgrave krisKris will be dumped by then. It will be a used up, hollowed out Noelle massacring everyone as your puppet.
>>530557391(NTA)
>3rd is the least likely scenario to happen at all in any event, because susie is such a care-free person, she wouldn't mind kris and noelle sharing a bathtub.I disagree
Jealous isn't the word I'd use but like, the red flash scene, Susie is worried as fuck that Noelle and Kris might be planning to ditch her, seeing as she for once made friends and suddenly they begin excluding her.
>Y'know, Noelle... said she wanted to talk to you.>* But... something... about her look was kinda... weird.>* ... Why>* ... couldn't she just talk to you in front of me?>* What... were you two talking about?>* It wasn't about me, right? Heheh...>* ... what? Fine, I won't bring it up again...I'd be surprised if Susie DOESN'T get jealous/worried on the weird route.
>>530557556>>530557713Asriel is a comically innocent Christian boy who was being corrupted into a rebellious manslut by Dess and you cannot convince me otherwise
>>530556452Fatten up Dess NOW
>>530557789that seems unlikely since we sacrificed noelle before we got thrown into the shredder ourselves.
my thought is that the "bad" route might end earlier than the normal game.
>>530557543Susie will have to put an entire watermelon in her mouth to save the universe
>>530557901The old story of King Solomon...
Never trust those duplicitous bitches.
>>530557364People don't want to hear this but Catti's life is too normal for her to be an interesting character.
>>530551463Chapter 3, the Dark World entirely focused on Kris's personal history, has a ton of references to Dess, from talking about her history with Kris directly to bizarre cryptic shit like the gacha machine secret. There's more about Dess in Chapter 3 than Asgore, Kris's own father.
Noelle is not mentioned in the TV World at all. She's only referenced in the MANTLE game, or if you go out of your way to tell Ralsei you're taking her to the festival. Noelle's relationship with and feelings toward Kris are complicated but she wasn't lying when she said "Even then, there were times when I wasn't sure if we were even friends." Kris was closer to Dess than Noelle.
Establishing Kris's connection with Dess also explains and adds layers to Kris's connection with The Knight, who is Dess.
Hand-cleaning the dust and grime inside of Tenna after a long day of filming on desert and wild west-themed sets
>>530557926I still can't believe people unironically thought this would happen
>KRIS, REMEMBER THAT DEAD BITCH WHO'S NO LONGER ALIVE?
>WASN'T IT GREAT WHEN SHE WASN'T DEAD?
>>530557878yeah nah, i see what you mean now.
you mean the weird-ass creepypasta scene where (YOU) get locked out of reacting.
i think susie used up all her IQ points and concluded that something was off.
>she is normal as usual>hey can i talk to you for a second>doesn't return>"kids, we have to go home now">entire thing ends on a weird notei don't think she's not specifically suspicious, just rightfully curious.
what is scarier that kris overrode our control that moment. kris probably fears that us gushing out might endanger the prophecy's fulfillment.
kris needs (YOU) to not fuck it up and give susie any reason to go against us because if susie was going to be successful in killing us, this world would either go under because the roaring is already approaching and she needs kris to stop it or because kris needs susie to cheat himself to the top with her.
>>530558340i can believe some people thinking deltarune wasn't going to turn into The Holiday Showโข at least, don't know about corrupting an adult into going full psycho though
>>530557556Most TV world darkners probably would, maybe not pippins though
>>530539416I don't find her very attractive
>>530557929I'm of the opinion that sacrificing Noelle means essentially deleting her personality and using her as the classic blank slate silent protagonist Kris failed to be, rather than killing her.
>>530538530If humans have skeletons inside them, where do skeletons come from?
>>530558340people unironically think Asgore is going to be a boss right now.
>>530553697Half mast minimum
>>530558628i support this because it cucks the snowgrave gooners if we just permadelete her and puppet the corpse around
>>530555143Kris and Susie are not dating, you delusional moron
>>530558739yeah yeah you're happy if something shit happens just because it makes people mad, you don't have to remind us every few hours
Do skeleton monsters have a smaller skeleton inside of themself
>>530558830but how else will you know what gets my peepee hard...
>>530558628that's a weird interpretation, but i can't say its completely unfounded.
maybe this deletion is necessitated by kris' eventual death and (YOU) taking over her and thus being what susie was supposed to become?
>AND LAST WAS THE GIRL>AT LAST WAS THE GIRLi generally disagree with the theory but i keep hearing people saying that "THE GIRL" can be noelle or susie depending on the route.
and susie will absorb our soul with love.
noelle already has our anchor out of LV.
>L(o)V(e) WILL FIND ITS WAY TO THE GIRL.what d'ya think?
>>530558560Weighted and loaded Pippins...
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>>530558707Thinking that the guy in the image named boss3.jpg is going to be a boss is nowhere near as retarded as thinking that the weird route would have a Persona-style "one new party member per arc" formula but with mindbreak
>>530558707wow why do they think that?
>spr_dw_church_prophecy_boss3
>>530559087I can't wait for the boss fight against Queen's car
>>530537760 (OP)i played delta rune chapter 1 many years ago.
Then got chapter 2 several years ago.
Lost my saves but just restarted.
I killed 2-3 enemies in chapter 1, then started mercying from then on out.
Didnt do spamton 2 in chapter 2, and didnt recruit 2 enemies in chapter 3, along with got rank A on the first board so didnt get to do the secret game stuff.
Probably gonna start over and do the 'correct' complete runs after I finish 4 (just got climbing gear)
I assume I need a genocide and a full peaceful runthrough, what should i do to make sure i dont miss anything?
>>530545527So will Alphys, and there will be 7 super sentai flower rangers
>>530559162Does her thing say boss?
>>530559087Yeah Toby would totally spoil the upcoming Chapter especially a big twist with a file name he knows will be datamined days after release.
Why do people act like Toby is stupid? If you think Asgore is a boss you've fallen for the most basic Toby trap.
>>530557901stupid dess... gr... stupid stupid stupid dess... grr... making christian boys fail god... grr... embrace the darkness... stupid dess... go home.
>>530559334Can it be belly time instead?
>>530559289some people are a little TOO invested in dessriel
>>530545527I am excited to fight Carol and her stupidly overpowered max level ninja with hyper-synergized subclasses build
>>530558808Quick question anon, how would you feel now if you hadn't had breakfast this morning?
Toby made a lesbian character meant to be cucked in the good route and raped in the bad route but people say that he's woke.
>>530559363>IT'S TUMMY TIME!
>>530559289>canonically the most powerful couple in all of the Tobyversethe straights won
>>530559162dishonest faggot award
>>530559279We were told that Queen was going to be the boss of Chapter 2 and that Tenna was going to be the boss of Chapter 3
It's not supposed to be a secret
>>530559606I'd watch this Nickelodeon show
>>530553016Shadow Crystals make a Game Boy (except it's called Game Man because Mancountry was played on it)
>>530559167>I assume I need a genocide and a full peaceful runthroughSo far genocide does nothing, there is a special route but it requires doing specific actions in chapter 2. The instructions are in the secret minigames in chapter 4.
>what should i do to make sure i dont miss anything?There's loads of stuff if you want to do absolutely everything. Eggs, secret moss, hidden collectables, secret bosses.
As long as you get the major stuff though I don't think you'll miss out on any major content
There is a character called the "original starwalker" though in chapter 1 who is very easy to miss and shows up a massively disproportionate amount in later chapters
I'd say just try doing a full mercy run, and then a secret "snowgrave" run from chapter 2 picking alternative options. That will let you see most of the content organically.
>>530559606Deltarune if it was made by Klasky Csupo
>>530559576>didn't turn "TELLY TIME" into "BELLY TIME"i fucking hate how tennafags are so immune to funi and their porn is so dogshit.
pass kidney stones.
>>530554137what if FRIEND has susie and noelle colored eyes because it's some sort of bad-timeline dark amalgamate of Susie and Noelle
>>530559018I'm not settled on a single interpretation yet, but my favorite theory so far riffs on the idea of L(o)V(e) and Susie/Noelle being interchangeable:
>The focus on "power" in save points is because the SOUL needs to power up a lot to save the world>The prophecy involves Kris/the cage giving the SOUL over to the girl because monsters with human SOULs are still OP>But that alone isn't enough power>On the normal route, you/Susie have to seal the Castle Town fountain to have enough power>Susie obviously doesn't want to do this, may or may not cooperate>If she does cooperate then the ending is bittersweet with both Kris and Castle Town gone>If she doesn't cooperate then the world is doomed>On the weird route, Noelle fills the role of the girl>Instead of getting stronger by sealing the Castle Town fountain, you raise your LOVE by sacrificing people in Hometown>World is saved but at a horrible price>Maybe there's a secret third ending where you use the "town love" level that Rudinn talks about as an alternative and no one gets sacrificed
I just kinda hope the Asgore fight is an interesting twist because I don't like the idea of "fight the Undertale boss again"
>>530559047Why are there so many people that are angry about this?
>>530559606This is disgusting. Revolting.
I fucking hate Klasky-Csupo.
>>530560019>why are people getting mad at the thing made to make people mad?
Also, kinda confused on a few characters.
Is Ralsei evil? He is a darkener, and in the shadows of the church images, the 3rd lightener doesnt look like Ralsei. Also Ralsei seems able to maximum heal anyone any time he wants. He is also permanently obsessed with letting the prophecy play through. He lies about the roaring which reveals itself in the church and he plays coy and runs off whenever he gets confronted. Also obsessed with making the party happy (im guessing to slow down the red souls progress).
Current headcanon is a mind / body / spirit thing. Frisks'' mind and spirit are in conflict. The mind forces the soul out to try to achieve his ends, and the soul fights for dominance to do good. I imagine the trauma Frisk experienced is causing him to seek retribution, but his soul wants him to remain pure.
>>530560093What's with this snarky reddit shit? Speak like a normal person
>>53055983410nna tons of heavy metal will crush you in your sleep tonight
>>530560093Why are you getting pissed off at a mod
>>530551138>reading about how Yugoslav multi ethnic/religious communities held togetherany recommendations anon? english literature on the yugoslav wars. the only military histories that i know of are those operational volumes by the CIA. https://archive.org/details/balkan-battlegrounds-i/Balkan_BattlegroundsII
>>530559289>characters that are yet to appear make for a better couple than all of Suselle Toby is pushinginfinite keks
>>530559047if they package this with a chapter 1 ralsei mod I'll use it
Finally got off my ass and beat Jevil
Now I can continue on
>>530545527I always wanted Toby to do the idea the Yellow devs fumbled
>>530560268english literature on the yugoslav wars is rare*
fuck
>>530560497Goofy ass old man face
>>530560305I'll be honest, I struggle to think of worse cases I've seen where the main canon couple sucked this much.
Maybe I just haven't consumed enough media with prominent shipping communities in them, but I imagine there's not many canon ships out there where both characters are pretty good on their own but actively become worse the closer they get.
If undertale didn't exist. What would your reaction be if you saw that scene of sans and toriel dancing at the end of chapter 4?
>>530560584same as it is now
>>530559984>Queen fight is Punch Out>Tenna fight is WariowareTo continue this trend, and to represent his love of gardening, Asgore's new boss fight will be Stardew Valley
>>530560584>"The guy who runs the convenience store? Really? You can't do any better?"
>>530560584You mean the whole scene, or just a random flash of Sans and Toriel dancing?
The whole scene is so fucking blatantly meant to be read as an awful and shameful moment I'm honestly still reeling at how some idiots have decided to die on the hill that Toriel did nothing wrong.
If it was just, like, a single screenshot of just Kris and Susie watching them dance with astounded faces, I'd assume it's just a comedic thing.
>>530551280>it's not empathy, it's empathyYou are fucking stupid.
>>530559770will I miss anything because I killed 2 enemies in the intro?
When / how did the alliance between frisk, carol, and undyne begin? When you first meet carol she seems very familiar with him. In the kitchen cutscene was chris drinking alcohol? Were all their hearts darkened by the loss of loved ones?
Seems like every dark character is paired off with someone of pure light. Carol's husband is 100% optimistic and joyous. Asgore is a peach. Napstablook is dandy. That makes me wonder if Toriel is a baddie since she seems stricter and harsher.
Also, is it ever revealed why toriel and asgore broke up?
>>530560584OF COURSE OF COURSE.
OF COURSE IT IS THE SAME.
>>530557014Asgore is going to be the main show. Their rage is an entire game in the making and they're in an even more unfair situation than the first situation. All other jealousys will also be present but before they can boil over Asgore will finally snap (Sans may be to blame) and we'll get to see him kill at least 2 people.
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>>530560941why would it take 24 hours
Only one more year til we find out Asgore killed 6 children in this universe too
>>530559375You can't fathom THIS amount of fixation power... grrr.... stupid dess with her stupid boyfriend... stupid lovey-dovey furry couple... stupid and cute.... cute...
>>530560941Post a review once it's there
>>530560584>ultra-religious divorced teacher mom with a quiet weird kid>her tires are slashed in the middle of the night>she both calls the police and makes sure her son's friend stays over out of concern>literally one day passes>weird quiet son is out with a friend>decide to invite the pun skeleton over>it is now the middle of the night>son still isn't back>not only does she not care, but she has a stranger in her house dancing and drinkingToriel is the average WASP mom
>>530560932>All other jealousys will also be present but before they can boil over Asgore will finally snapOh yeah no matter how many of those situations actually happen, Asgore is undoubtedly going to be the one whose snap defines the chapter.
>>530560941the fuck is that?
>>530560584>If undertale didn't exist. What would your reaction be if you saw that scene of sans and toriel dancing at the end of chapter 4?I did play Undertale tho.
>>530561072A sex toy brand
>>530560584Contempt because I wouldn't have had the initial reaction of "aw, cute."
>>530557014Noelle is going to be with (me) at the festival, all of the adults will be so happy for us. Sorry that you bricked your save.
The Asgore car memes got so big a lot of people who haven't played the new chapters yet are assuming it's canon
>>530560575>Maybe I just haven't consumed enough media with prominent shipping communities in themTrust me, Deltarune really takes the cake with the worst main ship and "two characters become worse when they are in the scene together".
Toby really outdid himself by making such a dogshit "couple".
>>530561072you have to be 18+ to post on 4chan
I don't understand people who find men sexy
>>530561018>OH WELL TOO BAD SHE'S DEAD WHAT A SHAME>torches asriel shrine
>>530560941>not just walking into your local shop, grabbing it off the shelf and taking it to the registerpussy
>>530560575Almost every basic bitch shonen anime couple sucks ass but that's expected because they can't write women anyway
>>530560153>Is Ralsei evil?no
>the 3rd lightener doesnt look like RalseiThe Prophecy just says "Three Heroes," it doesn't say "Three Lightners." The Heroes are supposed to save the Dark World too, it makes sense that one of them is a Darkner. "THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK" does describe Ralsei.
>Also Ralsei seems able to maximum heal anyone any time he wants.That's in a cutscene. Susie also fully heals the party in a cutscene before the Titan fight.
>He is also permanently obsessed with letting the prophecy play throughHe wants The Prophecy to change. He's trying to make that happen, but so far nothing has changed. Everything is still happening exactly like it was supposed to.
>He lies about the roaring which reveals itself in the church and he plays coy and runs off whenever he gets confrontedHe knows the entire Prophecy. He hid information from Susie because it doesn't have a happy ending. He's anxious and constantly trying to move ahead during Chapter 4 because he's terrified of Susie learning about The Last Prophecy, which says what happens in "The Final Tragedy" at the end of the story. That's what happens at the end of Chapter 4, remember?
>Also obsessed with making the party happyBecause he's a Darkner. He believes it's his purpose to make Kris and Susie happy. That's been his whole character arc in Chapter 3 and 4, feeling inadequate because he can't be there for them all the time and feeling conflicted about having his own personal wants and desires.
>Frisk???
>>530560941What is... oh... ooooooh...
>>530561216no.... with my power of fanfiction... everything lives... love prevails....
>>530561013You know how Toriel's big thing went from sitting by as 6 kids die (completely fantastical situation, most people don't care) to getting wine drunk with Sans (hits so close to home that people want her skinned alive and are ready to bomb Tobysoft headquarters for putting it in the game)
Asgore's big mistake that ruined his marriage will be changed similarly
desu (it means dess in japanese)
>>530561191Mind telling us what this has to do with Undertale and/or Deltarune?
>>530560941what the fuck is that
>googles itdude why
>>530561180I'm terribly sorry that I just jork it with my meaty man hands like normal men.
>>530560575Sasuke X Saukra and Naruto X Hinata are hot flaming trash.
>>530560584She might be a self exiling NEET but she's stil lthe queen. She could have any guy she wants, she could be with Mettaton if she wanted, but she chooses the slacker whose onyl claim to fame is being the laziest person in the entire underworld. If it were that easy I'd already be married.
>>530560575It's more common for there to be one good character and one boring character who only exists to be in a romance with the good character, with the good character becoming worse in every obligatory romance scene. If Noelle didn't have so much development in chapter 2, Suselle would be in that category too.
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Toby is such a fucking drooling imbecile.
>>530561464I don't see a problem
>>530561464Toriel feeds him nothing but junk it's surprising he's not fatter.
>>530559945i absolutely subscribe that even the good ending is bittersweet in some way and that there is no "good ending" but a lesser of two evils.
so essentially toby is right, there is only one ending - the bad ending.
life is not about getting a happy ending, but getting by.
maybe you'll chose in a way that when you are battered and sad, there will be friends that support you.
you will never be truly alone then. love surrounds you.
or you become the weird kid again.
people only hang out with you because they have to.
you will never be alone, but nobody likes you. LV surrounds you.
>>530560497I like her having cool jackets over her having flannels
>>530561475The problem being all of Noelle's good character development is related to Kris, not Susie
>>530557901Actually he is a DORKY FAT innocent Christian boy
Toriel is abusing her poor child, Alcohol.
>>530561360>Dess>desu>DEATHToby's done it again
>>530560854>will I miss anything because I killed 2 enemies in the intro?Chapter 1 is the only chapter where mercy/killing has no impact on recruitment. I think there are tiny differences between the chapters depending on if you got the full pacifist ending or not, but even then I think you can still be eligable for that so long as the enemies in the final castle forgive you for killing them. It's the difference between whether you get to go back and talk to people after beating king
>When / how did the alliance between frisk, carol, and undyne begin? We don't know that that exists, frisk is not a character in deltarune
>In the kitchen cutscene was chris drinking alcohol? who knows
>Were all their hearts darkened by the loss of loved ones?I don't know what this is referring to
>Seems like every dark character is paired off with someone of pure light. Carol's husband is 100% optimistic and joyous. Asgore is a peach. Napstablook is dandy. I think that's just because it makes for good chemistry to have contrast. We'll see, I suppose
>Also, is it ever revealed why toriel and asgore broke up?Not yet. We know asgore was formerly the chief of police, and asgore has comments in chapter 4 about "proving it wasn't my fault". Most likely we'll find out in chapter 5 in a year's time
Are there any other quirky RPGs like Underrune I might want to check out from the Steam sale
I've already played LISA (great), the Everhoods (great as well) and OMORI (I could not stand the cutesy dream adventures but everything else was cool)
>>530561352Yeah, like instead of intentionally killing 6 kids, he might only accidentally have killed 1.
>>530554861I think the original girl was Noelle. The Knight and Kris working together to set up a different hero so Noelle wonโt die would make sense, given chapter 4โs ending directly contrasting Susieโs wishes with the Knightโs and showcasing Krisโs apprehension.
I'm just upset that Tori doesn't care. All I need is sans saying "hey kiddo, your mom was worried about you" so I could at least pretend the booze was just to ease her nerves at first.
>>530561380I always see you guys posting erotic spamton and tenna art and I just don't comprehend
>>530561662Yeah, it's like Toby dodged the most common issue and ran dickfirst into an arguably more frustrating one instead.
>>530560853i can tell what route you've been playing.
i bet you think toriel is a good person.
>>530560575Almost like they will not be a couple or something.
How long until this general stops circlejerking about how they hate lesbians?
>>530561662What, you didn't like it when Susie acted OOC to contrive Suselle forward, and when she coincidentally loved horror movies and dragon blazers all back-to-back?
>>530561408>he doesnโt know
Look at the disparity in how Toriel treats both her kids
>>530551280Monkeys have empathy anon. If you have two monkeys across from each other and feed one better than the other, the monkey being fed well will stop eating until you treat both monkeys equal.
>>530561882When Toby writes a lesbian relationship that doesn't suck.
>>530561740>and asgore has comments in chapter 4 about "proving it wasn't my fault"He's trying to prove that something happened and trying to get people to believe him
>* This time for sure... Tori will finally see.>* ... see what really happened.>* ... that I just wanted to... protect everyone...>* And this time, she'll have to believe me.>* ... they all will.
>>530561828Wrong. Toriel is a horrible single mother.
>>530561719Remind's me of in Yugioh they would censor some cards by translating it Des instead of Death
>>530561175I'm still waiting to see if it's all just a red herring and Susie and Noelle dating is bad on purpose and it's either supposed to evolve into them trying again but with a healthier outlook this time, or if it's just gonna be a fake out into Susie and/or Noelle either not dating anyone or realizing she loves someone else. But so far it doesn't seem to be the case and that worries me.
>>530561420>>530561296Tbqh I don't think I've ever finished any actual shonen animes other than Dragon Ball (which had a whole different problem with it's couples). I dropped Naruto way before the ending, and only much later just heard second-hand that it ended and Naruto ended with Hinata and Sasuke with Sakura. At the point I was, Naruto didn't seem to really realize Hinata existed but that could change, and Sasuke and Sakura already seemed like the most retarded thing ever.
I also dropped Bleach before it ended and only heard later that Ichigo got with the damsel in distress big tiddy healer instead of Rukia which was a real surprise to me because I felt like their dynamic was basically the main drive of the story.
>>530561882I didn't dislike undyne x alphys
>>530561920That's not a very good example just by the room itself, and you forgot the Susie award.
>>530561886Susie liking horror movies and Dragon Blazers were both established in chapter 2. Not even in the scenes with Noelle.
>>530561882This is unemployed neurotic hours
>>530561920you've gotta wonder if kris asked for those gray sheets himself
>>530561920its not like toriel decorated their room, kris just isnt very outgoing and doesnt get many awards
>>530560941you are a disgusting degenerate and more orgasms will only make your life worse, not better
>>530562089No, I'm talking
>Oh, you like X? I love X too!>Oh, you like Y? I love Y too!
>>530561920>Kris has been so neglected since being adopted that he lets Dess rape him repeatedly because it feels like someone cares about him
>>530561882I don't hate lesbians, if I did I'd hate Susie and Noelle for being lesbians (or apparently heading out towards becoming lesbians). But I don't hate them, I think both characters are great. What I hate is Suselle.
>>530561970yeah sorry my bad I should have checked the text dumps
>>530561791Speaking for myself, it's a side effect of being heterosexual. Not much else to it.
>>530561886If you had played the game you would know that Susie being into those things was already established four years ago in Chapter 2
Did you sperg out when she was bonding with Kris over them?
Some of you guys might be taking this game a little too seriously
>>530560584People would hate Toriel much much more if that was the case.
>>530561882As far as I am concerned Kris is a woman, so any relationship between Kris/Susie/Noelle is a lesbian relationship.
>>530562230>Invasion of the cat pettersHometown is doomed
>>530562230Wasn't that just Susie listing a bunch of movie options to watch for their sleepover?
>>530562178>I don't hate lesbians, I just get irrationally angry and hostile about lesbians in my vidyaVery interesting
>>530562160see my first thought would've been a tragic case of pining after the older girl who treats him nicely and feeling the worst guilt imaginable when she ends up LOST because of him, but gotta draw it back to rape i guess
>Susie has a breakdown the first time she has sex with Noelle
>>530562352You can lol at the truth but you cant escape it.
That shit aint worth it man, stop corrupting yourself more and more, it only leads to bad ends.
>>530562381I love this person's animations.
I assume this is the same creator as that miniKris one
>>530562027>I'm still waiting to see if it's all just a red herringSo do I, anon. Jesus Christ be my witness, so do I but I have already killed all of my hope. I just don't see it becoming anything more than what we have seen already.
>>530560575The thing is the plot makes sense and has likeable and interesting characters except when anything romantic or romance-adjacent comes up.
>>530562230You are being disingenuous and all of those talks with Noelle happen right in the basement over a short amount of time.
>>530561920I would imagine that if Susie agreed to sleep in Asriels bed, she would feel bad and ask Kris to switch.
Or maybe they would fuck idk
>>530562398>irrationally angry and hostile
>>530562342Anon when friends have a sleepover together they tend to watch movies that they like
Susie suggesting these movies to Kris is establishing the kind of movies that she likes to watch
I hope this helped you understand this social situation
>>530562291i feel like im in tumblr here sometimes
>>530562435The anons yearn for molestation
>>530562136Real neurotic hours isn't until like six hours from now
Suselle will become good once Noelle realizes that's she's actually more of a sadist than a masochist
>>530562683the hummer killed dess
Is there any proof Susie likes Noelle back in any way other than as a friend?
>>530562458>bad endssuch as?
>>530562398>People that like Susie don't want to lose Susie to Noelle>People that like Noelle don't want to lose Noelle to SusieWhat's difficult to understand. If Berdly could date Susie or Noelle, he'd also be hated for "stealing" them.
>>530560584>What if Toriel had no defenders at allWhat do you think?
i dont like suselle because almost every single other pairing the two can be in is just better
>>530562786Holy FUCK look at that fucking cervine SLUT
>>530562603Anon, you don't like the movies that you like, you list the movies that are available, usually with a preference towards things you haven't seen yet.
And yes, you can infer that Susie must like Blood Crushers as one she brings up, but that still doesn't mean that's just literally a list of movies Susie likes, it could well be just the ones that give her a good first impression. Invasion of the Cat Petters sure as fuck doesn't seem to fit with the others.
Also hold the fuck on, why do MONSTERS have a movie called "Blood Crushers" when they don't have blood?
>>530561929the variable at play here is intelligence.
imagine one's ability for goodness and cruelty like a sine-wave function.
it's a perfect equllibrium, oscilating back and forth.
everything and everyone oscillates, but the amplitude of your cruelty or kindness is determined by intelligence.
the value you receive from it is completely random.
i need to replay chapter 4 I accidentally went to Noelle's too early and didn't get to drink hot chocolate or get the Susie award
>>530562763There's some body language stuff like blushing when noelle gets close or the implied disappointment when noelle is a total sperg about the ferris wheel
After chapter 2 she starts mentioning noelle unprompted at certain times
Other than that, no - it's really weak
your taking too long...
...your taking... too long...
>>530562786you know thinking about it rudy's lucky carol didn't cut his fucking arm off with her KILLER SAMURAI INSTINCTS
I do not care about goats or deer or humans or dragons
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>>530562881>Also hold the fuck on, why do MONSTERS have a movie called "Blood Crushers" when they don't have blood?wrong
>>530562867BERDLY DON'T SHOUT THAT CAROL'S GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU
>>530562507Wow I can't believe that known horror movie and creepy things fan Susie would reference a horror movie when something creepy happened while she was hanging out with her new friend Noelle, after already being told by Noelle that she likes horror movies, and that they would proceed to bond over their shared interests like new friends do
Toby Fox is a FUCKING HACK
>>530562937you can't say that until January 2nd 2026
>>530562881>Anon, you don't like the movies that you like, you list the movies that are available, usually with a preference towards things you haven't seen yet....of the genre you like watching. People don't suggest totally random film titles.
>>530562506I get an aneurysm whenever "Girl Next Door" plays.
>>530563052You started responding after reading just the first line, didn't you?
>>530563005>You know what REALLY made me afraid of basements?>Like... the underground levels from Dragon Blazers.Forced just to get them to talk about video games
>>530563135I did. Normally when someone opens with a line that retarded I don't bother reading the rest of the post.
>>530562815I would like to live in the alternate universe where Susie/Berdly and Catti/Noelle are the endgame pairings. No Kralsei either, Kris gets raped by Dess and Ralsei gets raped by (Me). Intra-party romance should be forbidden.
After Susie rejects Noelle, she will be into older woman and try to steal Toriel from Sans
>>530563180Wouldn't Carol be young in the 70s? How would she be a scene girl
>>530557901The former isn't even headcanon. He would go confess to the priest about 'sins' he'd commit in videogames, one of which was just doing the Yoshi jump from the Mario games.
Asriel must have been the softest UwU sadboy on the planet, which is probably part of why Ralsei is the way he is in the current day.
>>530563067its not just me?!?!
question: gingerbread house
yay or nay?
>>530560575They're not really even a couple yet, they've hung out once IRL where they mostly talked about shared interests and Noelle's weird dream (this being mostly character development/reveals for each of them individually, proof of Susie being more open now and able to be chill with people with some Kris lore hints) and Susie asked her out to the Festival basically just to make her mom upset because that's what she does when confronted
A lot of the anger towards Susie and Noelle feels like it comes from assuming the absolute worst (their relationship is just this forever AND is 100% confirmed endgame) and working back from there, so you get these giant overreactions where Susie basically goes "Uuuuuuuhhhhhh so do you like horror movies or whatever" to break the ice and people act like Toby killed their mother
>>530562881>you list the movies that are available>it could well be just the ones that give her a good first impressionThey're watching cable television. She's flipping the channels. They're not going through a stack of DVDs. Hello?
>Invasion of the Cat Petters sure as fuck doesn't seem to fit with the others.It's a reference to Invasion of the Body Snatchers, a horror movie.
Am I talking to a zoomer who doesn't have a concept of TV that isn't on-demand?
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>>530562458i am now a jesus boy
>>530562881>Invasion of the Cat Petters sure as fuck doesn't seem to fit with the others.How? It's a reference to old sci-fi horror movies like Invasion of the Body Snatchers
>when they don't have blood?Do you even play the game?
>>530563241Catti is in a happy relationship with Jockington.
>>530563308Does that imply Ralsei is also miraculously straight
>>530563005People who complain over the horror movie stuff are retarded
The stuff that they say while kris is in the closet is pretty fucking terrible
The stuff noelle says about susie in the ferris wheel is fucking indefensible
The stuff susie says about noelle after chapter 2 is completely retarded
>>530562763Susie talking up Noelle for picking up a "mouse" as the most badass thing she's seen lately was utterly ridiculous ass sucking to me. And their whole "Oh, you totally like all the same media as me, in fact it's an extreme coincidence that Susie, despite being poor and never having real access to any media that wasn't stolen, happens to have entered contact with just about every piece Noelle happens to be a fan of", which was ridiculously forced.
Then through the dark world you get a bunch of totally unprompted moments of Susie asking if Noelle would like X or Y, and when Susie reads the prophecy saying "Love finds its way to the girl", Susie sprints the fuck up ahead and leaves Kris behind and tells them to not follow, making Kris fight a bunch of battles alone... you know, just in case you still hadn't quite caught the fact this ship makes Susie worse too.
>>530563428FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
CATTI IS MY GIRLFRIEND NOT HIS
>>530563428Jockington is asexual like Sans Undertale (but not Sans Deltarune)
>>530562786>>530563180UUUOOOOOOHHH
PETITE DEER EROTIC
LONG BLOND HAIR EROTIC
EXPOSED TUMMY AND LEGS EROTIC
>>530563237Yeah well, good way to prove you are the retard.
>>530563403Do you? Susie bleeding from her hand is the very first surprising case we see of a monster bleeding, even this very same chapter already reminded you that they're supposed to just turn to dust when hurt or killed.
>>530563325I don't have a pavlovian response to it like with GND so it's good especially with laughing Santas playing in your mind.
>>530563195>dialogue written specifically for people who waited a scene out to hear more dialogue is contrived to give characters common points of reference that are familiar to the player and can foreshadow bigger story/theme/plot eventswwwwwwoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW why would Toby Fox do this?
>>530563298Considering smartphones are a thing in DT, it isn't a stretch to assume it is taking place in roughly a present time.
So if Carol was an 90s emo chick, it wouldn't conflict with timeline at all
>>530563791the fact that your opinion completely covers with mine makes me mad.
i don't know why i feel like this about it.
i don't know why i viscerally react to this shit like kris reacts to noelle in the game.
i don't know why gingerbread house is the only song of hers that is somehow a banger to me.
WHY
>>530563712There's a joke about drinking Noelle's blood and a joke about her having ticks in the very same chapter. Monsters have blood in Deltarune. It was never even explicitly stated that they don't have blood in Undertale either.
>>530561886The way I process (cope) with that is just assuming the poor writing is Susie's way of trying to "distract Noelle" since that was supposed to be her job while Kris searched the house for the code.
>>530564171I can assume that it's because you don't feel such connection with other people often. I actually phrased my post in a way that will tickle your brain.
Don't feel mad. Be glad.
>>530564171If I had to guess why Girl Next Door causes such an intense negative response, is because it's way too upbeat of a song that forcefully overwrites whatever is currently playing just for Noelle to say "Hi Susie! Hi Kris" and then leave.
It's like if non-sense small talk that only nudges the plot along had a theme song. And I LIKE Noelle a whole lot but I find this song a bit out of place in most cases.
>>530540259and these same exact people will happily mod, and support mods, that lgbt-ify non-lgbt games or non-lgbt elements or characters from games that already have some, while thinking doing the opposite for any reason at all is insane and grounds for literal imprisonment and physical harm
they're very sane and normal and the good guys btw
>>530562506>romance-adjacentBut the Krusie date is kino